40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Vox’s are mechanical

UR-025 my beloved

And if you bring up the skull

[red spruce]

the radios/voxes in darktide have skulls
ye perhaps decoration
idont know

[arctic talon]

Skulls are common adornments

On literally everything

[plush mason]

^

[arctic talon]

It’s decoration

The imperium loves skulls and bones

They’re a death cult

They revere death

They revere sacrifice

[plush mason]

the imperium is low key obsessed with skulls

[arctic talon]

Not low key they just are

[red spruce]

my basic point is: fight the warp with things that are not affected by it

[arctic talon]

So nothing except blanks

[open pumice]

theres nothing realistically not affected by it

[arctic talon]

Legio cybernetics robots are still vulnerable to chaos corruption

Even though they have silica animus

[open pumice]

Just about the only force in the galaxy that can actually resist chaos corruption are the talons of the emperor

[arctic talon]

The one cybernetica robot that isn’t vulnerable is the Kastelan

[plush mason]

i mean even most complex machines have some element of warp connection so

[open pumice]

the legio custodes adn sisters of silence

[arctic talon]

And the mechanicus don’t know how

It doesn’t get corrupted

Not from lack of trying

But because it’s a straight up anomaly

[plush mason]

to fucking loyal for that shit thats why

[arctic talon]

The noosphere was resistant to daemonic incursions

too bad they figured out how to get in

[open pumice]

get noosphered idiot lol

-chaos probably

[arctic talon]

There is literally 0 way

to prevent the warp from effecting things

99.9999% of the time

[plush mason]

so daemon scrap code is a thing? ofc it is

[arctic talon]

Yeah

its still a massive issue on mars

and its why most of the underground and planet is quarrantined

[open pumice]

Thats kelbor hal's fault!

[arctic talon]

lol

Daemonic Scrap code is like an irl virus except it hates you and is constantly changing

[open pumice]

@red spruce Nurgle made a digital plague for the actual undead robots, the necrons, and it nearly fucked over an entire dynasty

[plush mason]

i wish the dark mechanicus was still a thing in 40k, well they are but they dont do shit it feels like

[open pumice]

agree

i'd like some dark mechanicus rules and models

Horus heresy has soem rad dark mech minis

[arctic talon]

Horus Heresy dark mech things are shared with mechanicum

aside from the one character mini dark mech has

[plush mason]

hell even just making them part of the iron warriors faction would be better

[red spruce]

but why? necrons cant decay? can they
so what does nurgle want from them

[open pumice]

they decay infinitely

and then they come back!

what would nurgle not want from them

[red spruce]

i c

[arctic talon]

this guy

[open pumice]

yeeee

he is

rad as hell

[arctic talon]

is the only dedicated dark mech mini

he also is like

[open pumice]

look at that based as fuck model

[arctic talon]

one of the only characters

[open pumice]

not true

[arctic talon]

who doesn't get fucking instagibbed by a primarch

[arctic talon]

In 30k yeah he is

[plush mason]

my man done made himself into a scorpion

[arctic talon]

the rest of the minis are shared

[open pumice]

no

[arctic talon]

That guy is for both

[open pumice]

Archmagos Draykavac is also a traitor

[open pumice]

not if you build him as draykavac

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

but the mini is buildable as either generic archmagos

[open pumice]

this is the guy for both

[arctic talon]

or Draykavac

[plush mason]

is that just a hover craft or is he built into it?

[open pumice]

hovor craft

The base is rad

you can pick him up and take him off the transprt

[arctic talon]

^

[open pumice]

the FW characetr series bases are unironically amazing

[arctic talon]

A lot of HH characters also come with senic base

they share with another mini

for a "duel"

except you can take them out of it

[open pumice]

like fulgrim and manus

abbadon and lokhen

etc

[red spruce]

is there like a 3d game with all the miniatures? and the table top rules?

[plush mason]

i love how the admech is all like "the human form is the best form" and then go on to get spider legs and snake tails or just flat out hover everywhere

[open pumice]

like a videogame?

no

[open pumice]

how else are they going to convince the imperium they aren't heretics

[arctic talon]

tabletop simulator is the cloesest

[red spruce]

[open pumice]

Closest you'll get to just a dedicated game is DoW

[plush mason]

hell Crawl be looking like a necron destroyer with legs lol

[red spruce]

i played it back in the days
felt like a company of heroes reskin
not sure what was first

[open pumice]

but DoW is more or less an RTS

[red spruce]

yes

[arctic talon]

pretty sure they're the same devs lol

[plush mason]

say "good luck surviving without half your shit" and laugh

[red spruce]

yes

[open pumice]

dawn of war was first

[open pumice]

I mean yeah, thats why they are tolerated in the first place

[red spruce]

well
who would buy the miniatures when you have a virtual alternative

[open pumice]

kinda rude

also

[shadow plover]

lots of people who enjoy painting

[open pumice]

^

the hobby is what brings us all together

[shadow plover]

plus the tabletop game feels a lot different

[red spruce]

yes the people can still paint
that was not my point

[open pumice]

that and sniffing glue

[open pumice]

40k as a videogame would be awful

[plush mason]

hobby gaming will likely never die due to the personal element of it that no video game can ever match

[open pumice]

there would be no incentive to play fun, narratively enjoyable lists

[red spruce]

wh40k miniature painting also seems the pinnacle of nerd culture since the witcher actor admited he does it too

[open pumice]

you wouldnt be standing across a table with someone laughing your ass off as you roll 21 1s on 40 dice and loose the entire game because of it

[arctic talon]

DnD might be that

Mostly due to ubiquity

Most people know what it is

[plush mason]

hell many surgeons use it to help with their hand eye coordination and to help keep their hands steady

[open pumice]

genuinely

the best part of warhammer is the other people in warhammer

[arctic talon]

That is also the worst part sometimes

[open pumice]

well yes

[arctic talon]

But usually it’s the best part

[open pumice]

^

if you took that away

and just made it a videogame

that would be genuinely awful

it's like magic without the other magic players cough arena

[red spruce]

yeah i can see that but the cost of entry is a bit much

would i be welcome in a match with just my units name written on paper? ^^ doubt

[plush mason]

i mean. do you even need minis to play dnd? a lot of it is just pen and paper still with the DM and players just voicing the actions and what not

[arctic talon]

Not really

[red spruce]

minis are optional in dnd

[open pumice]

Roll on up to your LGS, see if the guys have armies they'd be willing to let you try out

[arctic talon]

I’d be okay with it personally

Also yeah some lgs’s have loaner armies

[open pumice]

Alot of players jsut

have 3 or 4 armies

[red spruce]

what is lgs?

[arctic talon]

Local game store

[open pumice]

Local Game Store

its where you go to actually play warhammer

[open pumice]

If you just go online and local gamestores near me, garuntee you'll find a bunch

[plush mason]

man i was not expecting to see a warhammer store literally 15mins from my house lol

[open pumice]

lucky bastard lmao

the nearest gamestore for me is 30 minutes away

[red spruce]

mine is 1 hour drive away

[open pumice]

the nearest gw store is an aditional 30

[arctic talon]

Check gamesworkshops website

Enter your home address

It’ll show lgs’s

[open pumice]

^

[arctic talon]

If the only one is 1 hour away

Unfortunate

[plush mason]

the fact a warhammer store is in such a fairly rural area like where i live says a lot about how wide spread the hobby is

[open pumice]

theyre franchised

so it probably means theres a fair few peopel around you who play warhammer

[barren tapir]

And yet, i cannot fucking find anyone that seems to have heard of it here FFS... 30K people here and it seems i'm the only one that like WH40K

FML

[plush mason]

oh 100% as there is like 5 partner stores too that sell the minis lol

[open pumice]

Where you at? just curious

[open pumice]

lmao yeah

I used to work for the LGS near me

[barren tapir]

The only info i give about my position is that i'm in europe

[open pumice]

valid

[red spruce]

where do you live?
germany seems no warhammer 40k land

[plush mason]

north carolina USA

[dense trench]

Yeah my closest actual GW is 120 miles away. LGS sells some stuff but usually just the latest and greatest box sets and painting supplies. Bit rare they have specific models

[red spruce]

why do people from the USA always give their state? XD

[dense trench]

I either have to hunt for stuff there or buy from the website and have it shipped to me

[plush mason]

literally 15 from Fayetteville where there is a fucking cluster of LGS

[open pumice]

because our states are about the size of a eruopean country

so its jsut about as specific as saying that you live somehwere in poland

[plush mason]

yup

[dense trench]

True

[red spruce]

fair! but canadians, russians, brazils, australians, etc. dont do that

[tiny root]

https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1621531787754360832?t=PcqoAUx8fANvRxAueDHNpg&s=33
So young soldier because Farsight steals youth from their victims with his chaos sword

Warhammer Official (@warhammer)

Just who is the young warrior, and what do they foretell? Check out this week's Arks of Omens video and see if you can guess. https://t.co/6JR2X5cOMF #WarhammerCommunity

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Or am I tripping

[open pumice]

watching now one sec

it's the tau in general

not just farsight

[dense trench]

It's also on the vain hope that we'll be really close to someone else lol

[open pumice]

they've been fighting agaisnt angron for some time

[open pumice]

dont call me out like that

[open pumice]

Here in the us we also have state identity aswell

[plush mason]

also because there is like 100 Fayettevilles in america in like half the 50 states so

[open pumice]

our cultures aren't homogenous across state lines, unlike in many other countries where their provinces aren't so personal

[red spruce]

texans

[open pumice]

i.e.
Californians can eat dirt if they really think that in and out is a good burger

[open pumice]

all of us lmao

[plush mason]

each state in the union is its own semi independent nation which is why we are a union

[open pumice]

you can think of the united states like the balkan states, but under one actual government, all the hatred still there

[shadow plover]

population of 208k.
"rural"

[barren tapir]

You are making it all more complex that it is, it is a federation

Exactly like germany

[red spruce]

i just say one more thing and then i stop pollute this channel
If you field culture, then most european countries are ultra inhomogenous
like germany with bavaria

[red spruce]

rural for american standards

[open pumice]

where is 208k population considered rural

[shadow plover]

less than 10k might be rural

[open pumice]

Where I live we have a population of ~ 2-3k and i'm only considered semi rural

[barren tapir]

In UE we have different culture even within the same region lol

[plush mason]

Fayetteville itself isnt rural but i live in the rural area around it

[open pumice]

Europe isn't any less culturally diverse than the US, honest it's quite the opposite

[shadow plover]

if you're 15 minutes from it it can't be that rural can it?

[dense trench]

You'd be amazed

[open pumice]

it's just, at least in my experience, less related to provincial lines, and more related to ethnic origins

[plush mason]

i live in a suburb of a small township surrounded by nothing but tobacco fields mate

[dense trench]

Where I work there's a big city, major thoroughfare for the whole state. 10 minutes south is completely agricultural farmland. Literally like stepping back in time 50 years

[red spruce]

also when an army centuries ago stoped advancing

[open pumice]

yeah

[shadow plover]

doesn't rural by definition mean it's far away from any larger population etc

[plush mason]

not here

[open pumice]

far is relative

rural is more based on how dispersed the populations are

[barren tapir]

I think rural mean not heavily urbanized

[dense trench]

Yeah population spread thin and all that

[timid ferry]

adjective
adjective: rural
in, relating to, or characteristic of the countryside rather than the town.
"remote rural areas"

[barren tapir]

Like sparse houses with lots of land around

[plush mason]

yup

[open pumice]

you can have rural areas right outside of suburbs

[shadow plover]

this is what I was thinking about

[plush mason]

im in what is called "rural suburbia" which is a small suburb in an otherwise rural area

[open pumice]

looking at it again

it might actually be farsight

[plush mason]

what is the average tau natural life span? do we know?

[open pumice]

40

ish

[barren tapir]

Shorter than humans

[plush mason]

k

[open pumice]

except farsight, because he is based as hell and has been around for like 300 years

[plush mason]

sheesh even the tweeleks live longer than that

tho not by much

[plush mason]

that was why i asked so i assume they have some way to extend life expectancy much like the imperium does

[barren tapir]

Nope, they use stasis to preserve important people

Or AI

[plush mason]

oh so farsight is ether tau winter soldier or a full on AI bot by now?

[barren tapir]

Yes

[plush mason]

neat

[barren tapir]

But his long life is because of the sword he use

[open pumice]

no

he's got a vampire sword

[plush mason]

ah

[open pumice]

he stabs people

and much like most service jobs

completely drains their life force

[barren tapir]

I'm betting right now that it is a necron sword, that was used to feed the ctan with life essence of criminals or some other crap...

And that it is also one of the keys that armless abaddon is looking for, so that is why they will clash

[plush mason]

ether that or its another chaos sword

[plush mason]

armless?

[open pumice]

its not necrons

[signal bramble]

Ok… wot

[open pumice]

but it's

"a xenos race"

[plush mason]

?

[open pumice]

elaborate

[signal bramble]

GW posted this for the emperor’s tarot cards.

[open pumice]

yes

[signal bramble]

And it’s a human with a horse wearing Tau armor.

[shadow plover]

old ass 40k meme about the old metal abaddon model that had a tendency to drop off his arms

[signal bramble]

So farsight?

[open pumice]

maybe

it could be fqarsight

the armor is red

but it could also jsut be the tau in general

[plush mason]

ah. ngl they need to add that to the canon lore at some point and have him get his arms chopped off and replaced

[signal bramble]

Farsight also isn’t “young” in the technical sense.

[plush mason]

would be funny

[signal bramble]

If the sword was glowy green I’d believe it was necron.

[shadow plover]

yeah would be pretty funny ngl

[open pumice]

he's young to the galaxy

[plush mason]

who da fuck is that random human?

[signal bramble]

Right now I think it’s a chaos artifact based on what the ethereals in the book say.

[open pumice]

random human #67254389756

[signal bramble]

It’s a tarot card, it’s meant to be symbolic.

But the red samurai armor implies farsight.

[open pumice]

yeah

besides

farsight is rad

and needs more lore

if farsight is AOO #4 i'm going to laugh my ass off

absolutely fucking dunk on lion fanboys

[plush mason]

so another chaos sword, thats 4 now? or is there more chaos swords important to the lore

[open pumice]

theres alot

the only important one tho is drach'nyen

[signal bramble]

Im sure there are infinite numbers of daemon weapons.

A chaos/warp weapon is shorthand for “we can make it do whatever we want for the story.”

[open pumice]

everything else is like, important for a character or two

drach'nyen will actually affect the future of the galaxy

[rose thorn]

Shout out to all 100 of the ‘one of a kind’ chaos weapons that one shot kills what ever it touches

[open pumice]

my headcanon is that they are all the same weapon

just passed around like hot potato

[plush mason]

thats what i mean. a sword is why Fulgrim and Horus fell to chaos ether directly or as the final push

[open pumice]

and with consitently dubious origins

[rose thorn]

There’s like 4 different daggers in HH like that lmao

[signal bramble]

And those books make it clear the chaos gods want farsight.

[open pumice]

not really the sword

[signal bramble]

At least Khorne and tzeentch do.

[open pumice]

more the demon in the sword

and also

you know

||talking to the cum painting||

[signal bramble]

It’s also implied in the farsight books that he’s an unaware agent of tzeentch.

[open pumice]

most agents of the chaos gods are unaware

[rose thorn]

Is it still a demon sword? I thought they retconned it

Syaing it’s some stupid metal

[open pumice]

its a "xenos weapon"

[signal bramble]

The ethereals are implied to know exactly what the daemons are and slip that it’s an ancient enemy.

[open pumice]

which could mean demon sword

could mean alot of things

[plush mason]

so was Fulgrim's sword

[open pumice]

correct

[signal bramble]

And the ruins summon daemons of Khorne.

[signal bramble]

With a daemon in it.

Xenos weapons and daemon weapons are not mutually exclusive.

[open pumice]

the dawnblade?

[open pumice]

agreed

[signal bramble]

The laer blade.

[plush mason]

yeah

afaik chaos xenos have always been a thing

[open pumice]

we could have avoided half the heresy if fulgrim didn't listen to the cum painting telling him to kill his brother

[plush mason]

the what?

[open pumice]

have you read fulgrim?

[plush mason]

no i only know bits of it

[open pumice]

you fine with some spoilers

[plush mason]

ofc

[open pumice]

||So this artist chick makes a portrait of fulgrim. in doing so she fucks and murders a bunch of other artists and uses their "bodily fluids" to make the colors for tthis painting. piss, shit, and blood are all explicitly stated, but it implies other fluids as well, hence, cum painting. A demon then inhabits it, and tells fulgrim to kill his brother||

[plush mason]

.....

[arctic talon]

Odds are he is

We're getting a new farsight mini

and a new Snikrot mini

And if the tau mini isn't a farsight mini

I will eat a brick

[open pumice]

I like his old model

it really sells the

he's fucked off away from the tau

odds are it's the lion all things considered

[arctic talon]

I can't see

what else this cuold be

ima be real with ya

its a tau battlesuit

[open pumice]

ah

[plush mason]

||that almost feels like meme lore but i trust you when you say it isnt so, wtf GW||

[open pumice]

I never saw that

[arctic talon]

and it has a sword

Also we're getting 5 books in total

for Arks of Omen

if the Lion is gona show up its prolly in 5

[open pumice]

I so wish it was man

[signal bramble]

Tzeentch wants farsight because he despises how stagnant Tau society is. So he wanted someone to break that.

[open pumice]

i so wish that was meme lore

[arctic talon]

4 is almost certianely farsight

[plush mason]

agreed

[arctic talon]

||the pear of agony incident||

[open pumice]

were getting 4?

[arctic talon]

5

[rose thorn]

I don’t remember where but I heard it’s like, some rare bullshit metal that exacts the body’s energy from the victim to the wielder of the sword

[arctic talon]

It was confirmed in white dwarf

to be 5 books

[open pumice]

ah yes white dwarf

fuck white dward

[arctic talon]

lol

[open pumice]

where was it confirmed

and are you sure it wasn't just a novel series

[rose thorn]

‘You want your army update, fuck you 11 dollars now or else in 3 weeks you will never get it

[open pumice]

yeah

[arctic talon]

let me find the exerpt

[open pumice]

cause they've been pretty hard on it jsut being 4 books

[arctic talon]

It was in this months white dwarf

it straight up says 5 books

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371866664704409600/1070059470115315722/20230131_111325.jpg?width=377&height=670

@open pumice

[plush mason]

||perfect name as even the summery hurt to read||

[arctic talon]

||the emperors children stuck a pear of agony up fulgrims ass||

[open pumice]

hot

[plush mason]

what. the. fuck

[open pumice]

maybe

[open pumice]

does

does this surprise you

from the emporers children

[plush mason]

i had hoped most of the sexual stuff was just meme lore

i should have known better

[arctic talon]

The pear of agony was to try to excise a daemon

[open pumice]

no

it's

[arctic talon]

it didn't work

[open pumice]

slaanesh

[arctic talon]

also it isn't really sexual

its usually just violent

regarding the emperors children

also Andy Clark is the person who's in that White Dwarf article

and he's the lead background writer so

I'm gona take what he says over what Warcom says

[plush mason]

so long as the bit i heard about Bile giving one of his brothers a u-shaped cock so he could screw himself in battle is just meme lore im alright

[arctic talon]

That sounds like meme lore

[plush mason]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Bile did shove Laer DNA unconsentually

into a bunch of emperors children tho

to improve their combat effectivness

[plush mason]

the Laer where a race of snake men right?

[arctic talon]

yep

[copper patrol]

BIle moment

[plush mason]

so how exactly did their DNA improve the emperor's children?

[copper patrol]

faster probably

[plush mason]

snake blood also heals faster but the SM already have that

[arctic talon]

faster, more dexterous

[copper patrol]

well they aer snake like

they aren't snakes

[arctic talon]

thats about all we got

[plush mason]

k

[copper patrol]

but 40k does have a lot of fucky lore

[arctic talon]

Also Eidolon becomes one of the best marine users of a thunderhammr

because of it

[copper patrol]

in one of the books the Imperial fists have a ceremony where the chaplian eats shit

[plush mason]

that is honestly scary given how insanely fast and dexterous a SM already is

[arctic talon]

thats retconned

hard retconned

[copper patrol]

weak

[arctic talon]

everything Ian Watson has ever written

[copper patrol]

cowards

[arctic talon]

has been hard retconned

Its literally just his barely disguised fetish

in every single book

[copper patrol]

I am not sure it's in an ian watson book

[arctic talon]

It is

[copper patrol]

but idk

[arctic talon]

an ian watson book

[plush mason]

ngl the ||cum painting|| feels like one of his ideas

[arctic talon]

I know it because I have unfortunately read it

[copper patrol]

related to the ian watson talk

[plush mason]

as does the pear of agnoy

[arctic talon]

[plush mason]

"OH NO Fulgrim has a daemon inside him!" "lets shove a pear up his ass to get it out"

[copper patrol]

I mean

that's some slaaneshi type shit

[plush mason]

the daemon in question:

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-jokes-on-you-im-into-that-he-man-gif-19093194

[copper patrol]

wasn't there not a daemon in him

at that point

and it was just fulgrim

[plush mason]

idfk

[arctic talon]

yep

[copper patrol]

like keep in mind this is the same legion that likes to disintegrate people into dust with sound then snort the dust

[plush mason]

so they shoved a pear up their primarch's ass to excise a daemon that didnt exist?

[copper patrol]

should they?

no

but they are crazy/stupid

[plush mason]

and yet the lore states that all SM have super human intellects

[copper patrol]

doesn't mean they are actually smart

[plush mason]

true

[copper patrol]

they just think quicker iirc

[arctic talon]

Tbf

Fulgrim pretty much didn't resemble himself

and they knew he had a daemon in him earlier

[plush mason]

ok but, why thru the anus?

why not just have him eat it or something

[copper patrol]

your body absorbs things faster that way

[arctic talon]

do you know what a pear of agony is

its a torture device

[copper patrol]

(that's actually true)

[arctic talon]

it isn't a literal pear

its called a pear of anguish since it is shaped like a pear

[crisp heath]

It's a bulb that has a trigger that causes it to widen, put into any orifice you please

[arctic talon]

here is one from the torture museum in poland

[plush mason]

oh so it like the blasphemer's pear from medieval Europe

[copper patrol]

just a 40ked version of it

[plush mason]

k

this info makes the whole event even more ian watson sounding

[arctic talon]

McNeil was possessed by Ian Watson

while writing his fulgrim books

[plush mason]

i can tell

[copper patrol]

didn't McNeil also write the daemonculaba

[arctic talon]

Daemonculaba aren't even that bad

[plush mason]

some of it just feels like "how much torture porn can i cram into this book?"

[arctic talon]

McNeil just likes to write about humans suffering

like

a lot

[plush mason]

so yeah its torture porn

which frankly im ok with

as it honestly makes a lot of the sexual sounding stuff a lot less sexual in nature

[arctic talon]

yeah pretty much

Pretty sure he also writes about a servitor factory

In one of his books

[plush mason]

aka Dr. Death's medical clinic?

[arctic talon]

Lol

[plush mason]

on steroids

and no i dont mean the nazi from wolffenstine

[arctic talon]

A skitarii shoves a “defective” prisoner into a meat grinder

Pretty much

[plush mason]

while alive? frankly not the worst way to go in 40k

[arctic talon]

Yes while alive

It’s to get the other prisoners to be compliant

And they make sure it kills them slowly lol

[plush mason]

at least he actually died

the other sods are gona end up in a fucked up half death

[arctic talon]

Yeah

I’d take a slow painful death over servitorization

[plush mason]

same

[arctic talon]

Because they don’t use anesthesia during it either

[plush mason]

ofc not

[arctic talon]

That’s inefficient

[plush mason]

yeah how else will they know if the lobotomy was effective if the subject doesnt stop screaming at the end?

just be sure to flood their system with stims so they dont go into a para sympathetic nervous response

aka dying of pain

also i applaud GW and the writers for including that bit to the lore

[storm jungle]

man

I did not need to re-read the pear of anguish stuff

[outer wave]

Didnt know 40k had accursed fruits in its lore

[serene mist]

I cannot not read that in AJJ tones
Damn you

[timid ferry]

Daemon fruits

That would by terrifying. Chaos mutated Luffy

[celest dome]

Doesn't Khorne has Blood Apples and roses

[signal bramble]

That’s an entire plot point in one of the warhammer crime novels.

Lobotomized servitors not being lobotomized enough which was then deemed as slavery and illegal on that planet.

Which in the context of the setting is comical.

[arctic talon]

Fucking up servitorization is actually illegal lol

[rose thorn]

When the guard van guard drops, i might become one of those guys who just make like 20 guard armies of different regiments

They look insanely fun to kitbash and paint

[copper patrol]

that sounds like a name

Guard Van Guard

[copper patrol]

probably

[rose thorn]

Oh shit vanguard is AOS lmao

I meant combat patrol

Actually I forgot with the new guard rules you can just have multiple regiments with out it feeling lore breaking

I really do like the way they handle the regiments in the new guard codex

It feels fitting in lore, multiple regiments fight all the time and they always use different tactics

[honest trellis]

I mean if we get elysians I'll take it

[rose thorn]

I love them they are cool

[signal bramble]

It’s not regiments anymore, it’s doctrines.

[rose thorn]

Oop thanks

[outer wave]

That sounds like something Nurgle would use

Make a colony of people think the fruit is good to eat but over time they slowly become daemonic

[celest dome]

Well taking usual myth, you also have the fruit of Wisdom, that fruit from the Garden of Eden

Which could be associated with Tzeentch and Slaanesh respectively

[outer wave]

True it could be a trifecta of Gods placing a bet on who they could corrupt the most using fruit

Regardless it sounds like a good idea for a H.P Lovecraft kind of 40k novel

[celest dome]

But still, I'm a plant of a Chaos God, I think it's a given whic h it is

[arctic talon]

Damned to forgeworld, then erased for not selling well enough

[timid ferry]

Would involve a spire noble investigating the death of his relative, discovering his inquires into a suspected cult, culminating with an encounter with a Daemon, discovering their line is chaos/genestealer tainted, and him looking over his shoulder afraid the inquisition will descend at any moment

[outer wave]

Something like that ye

[timid ferry]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PmdzptbykzI

[rose thorn]

i wish we got a rogue trader army

even if its imperium and xeno soup

god im so excited for the rogue trader game

my wallet right now

ive never been so excited for a game, im so hype for rogue trader i might actually buy the beta

i fucking love crpgs ( i need to finish one though lmao)

realization i could make an imperial guard army, and flavor them as rogue traders

[serene mist]

Yep

[rose thorn]

Amallyn shadow guide as a vindicare assassin

a handful of the balck stone fortress models got reused for other stuff

so some of them have rules

some shit is obvious like the ratling twins

battlescribe ive never been more happy that you have a name editor

[copper patrol]

owlcat does good work

[plush mason]

yes

[versed ledge]

Been curious, what pushes people to join Nurgle?

I mean it doesn't take a genius to know those wounds and infections are painful as all hell

[copper patrol]

normally the infection comes first

nurgle eases the pain of the disease

or that's what he offers

[honest trellis]

or just, like despair

which isn't exactly rare in m41

[plush mason]

yeah afaik its often ether they are sick and nurgle offers them a "cure" or nurgle himself gets them sick and then makes the offer

[honest trellis]

Nurgle is basically the voice saying to just give up and accept how things are

to let it all molder and rot because there's the cycle of death and festering and nothing can change it

things are bad so why not resign yourself to that inevitability

and like

Imperium 101 kinda feeds into that in a huge way

even spite does, it's all part of that unbreakable cycle

[versed ledge]

So they succumb to despair, and accept even the easing of pain and discomfort in exchange to become horrors

[signal bramble]

When a person is sick and dying many times desperation kicks in and they’ll pray for release from anything. Which is when the Grandfather embraces them. But he doesn’t cure them, he just takes away the pain.

Then their disease continues to get worse as it progresses or nurgle himself speeds it up but the sufferer doesn’t notice. They don’t really feel the pain anymore.

They don't even think to give the terminally ill the emperor's peace most of the time. They just leave them to suffer and die.

[desert moss]

Do the rat folk from vermintide also exist in 40k?

[arctic talon]

Skaven don't exist in 40k

[desert moss]

Darn

I want a rat army

[buoyant nacelle]

There most likely is some form of ratfolk mutants somewhere in the Galaxy. It's a big place after all.

[upbeat dagger]

wait is the emperor awakening?

[signal bramble]

Yes

[upbeat dagger]

as a man or as a god?

[signal bramble]

But exactly to what extent and the speed is always left vague.

[signal bramble]

Yes.

[upbeat dagger]

what info do we have aside from the dark imperium stuff

[signal bramble]

The sisters in the pariah nexus.

And the throne of light series which alludes to a special child waking up.

[final solar]

you and me both

[echo vault]

What primarch would naenae before they got a whoopin

[upbeat dagger]

how many souls died on cadia?

[uneven temple]

billions, probably

[plush mason]

yeah Cadia likely had serval billion people on it easy

[upbeat dagger]

wiki says 850mil

[red spruce]

Hello!
Do Power Armours versions depend on the taste of the legion/the higher the Mk the better/production capacity/seniority?

And how to the traitor legions get their power armours when its mainly build on Mars?

[barren tapir]

Scavenging mostly

But also raids on storage worlds

[red spruce]

storage worlds? wtf

[barren tapir]

Well, they aren't called exactly that, but they are worlds that are used to store stuff

[red spruce]

is the research on better power armor still ongoing in lore or is there no more?

[barren tapir]

Vraks was one of such, worlds that only use is to keep stuff there for future use

[barren tapir]

Still ongoing, but super extremely slow

[red spruce]

ah, vraks had these convenient caverns if i recal

[barren tapir]

Also, extremely related to the needs of tabletop

[red spruce]

yeah thats why i asked in lore
ofc when GW throws out a new power armor design then voila there is a new Mk XD

[barren tapir]

In lore we also have lots of different power armours pattern, mostly used by other forces than SM

[red spruce]

so there was never a supply shortage for power armor?
i wonder if the total sizes of space marines increased or decreased since the horus heresy
if it decreased significantly it makes sense that stockpiles and salvages are plenty for supply

[crisp heath]

There's a shortage of certain types of power armor, famously terminator armor

[crimson kayak]

Also as usual, the rule of thumb is the older the thing is, the better its more probable to be

[red spruce]

but arent the first power armors bad?

significantly inferior to newer

[crimson kayak]

You mean Crusader armor or the Thunder Warriors one?

Anyhow, power Armour wise, if we count factory standard it's contested between Mk 4 and 6 if we don't count the Mk X.

4 more for protection, 6 more for utility

Let's also forget how both us and gw forgot about the Mk.8 entirely and proceeded to skip the Mk.9

[copper patrol]

classic GW

[crisp heath]

Thunder warrior armor barely qualified as power armor, it was just motorized scrap metal

The real good power armor is from the age of technology, which is older than thunder warriors

[barren tapir]

Which also the imperium never really got any examples

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/bkVIRfU3rGM

[rose thorn]

Gonna take a shot in the dark

Angron kills people

He yells

He angry

He kills poeple

[storm jungle]

HALF correct

[rose thorn]

GasP

[outer wave]

He's a warrior poet

And he likes writing

[rose thorn]

Wiat for real? That’s fucking cool

[outer wave]

Idk Im making shit up

It would definitely be cool

Like make him pull a Toszhio Hijikata and have him write awful poems on his spare time

[arctic talon]

The only Space Marine power armor thats objectively terrible is MK1 power armor

Every other piece of power armor has a "use"

MK3 has the best frontal armoring, MK4 was the first "modern" power armor

MK2 is more armored then MK4 but less armored then MK3

MK5 is salvage or other pieces of power armor put together to make working power armor

MKVI had a better sensor suite and quieter then past power armors

MK7 was the best power armor till MK8 was developed

MKX is the most modular power armor but has similar armoring and tech to MK8

[rose thorn]

Oh

[signal bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[arctic talon]

I think he actually has written a poem before pre heresy

[crisp heath]

Blood ravens are just mini trazyns

[storm jungle]

and admech love toasters

badum ts

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/124027131746320384/1046796993537785887/ezgif.com-gif-maker_4.gif

[versed ledge]

By the throne...

[crimson kayak]

I just want a book where trazyn starts to enlist blood ravens for an heist

[celest dome]

Ahah that would be fun, Ocean 40k, with Trazyn, some Blood Angels, Salvar Chem Dogs and a Tech Priest

[crisp heath]

The payday gang

[crimson kayak]

Minotaur as the brute, Blood Raven as the expert, Tech Priest as well, the tech guy and a bunch of Chem Dogs as the new guys.

All while Trazyn plans it

[crisp heath]

Sounds like a fantastic book lol

[celest dome]

And obv Trazyn has layers of plans to backstab them all

[crimson kayak]

Also, funny thing, we are basically Inquisitorial Chem Dogs

[crisp heath]

At the end trazyn freezes them yeah

[crimson kayak]

I mean, that's obvious, Trazyn wouldn't miss on the best Imperial thief squad

[echo vault]

I find it strange that while there are combi bolters there isn't stuff like melta and plasma guns or stuff like that

[floral siren]

Does anyone know what an Imperial Knight drop keep looks like?

I would very much like to print a drop keep style case for my Knights but the closest I've found to a design for them is someone else's WIP design that isn't necessarily official

[signal bramble]

We don’t.

It’s never been depicted.

[arctic talon]

like 2 melta's glued together?

And 2 plasmas glued together

[open pumice]

I'd imagien like a drop pod, but big

Like

they are decribed as smaller version of the "coffin landers" from the titans

which to me sound slike

drop pod

[floral siren]

This is that persons WIP design I found

[open pumice]

yeah thats probablt fairly accurate

not enough skulls and aquilas/chaos symbols

[floral siren]

though I think in lore they're much larger, more like those sphere dropships from Mech Warrior

[echo vault]

Two plasmas glued together exist called a plasma blaster

But more like half melta half plasma and the like

[open pumice]

also yeah thats just a multi melta

[open pumice]

WDYM "larger?"

[echo vault]

I mean the difference between a plasma blaster and plasma cannon is one is more hand held and the other is a heavy weapon

[floral siren]

This looks like a 3 Knigh/6 armiger setup, but in The Gate of Bones the Knights of the Ironhold have a keep that has many bays

Fabian the historator was able to make note that of the several knights he saw outside the keep vs the number of bays within that the Knights would be leaving with heavy losses from the war on that world

[open pumice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

scale is inconsistent at best

[floral siren]

the keep design here makes sense for like, carrying your 2000pts of Knights

but in lore they big bitches

proper fortresses

[open pumice]

I think your underestimating how large a droppod would have to be to carry in just 3 knights

hell

just one knight

the dreadnaught drop pods which cary exactly one dreadnaught are the size of a decent sized house

[floral siren]

I'm saying they're even bigger

[open pumice]

i mean

[floral siren]

something like this but, again, bigger

[open pumice]

thats

small

your vastly over estimating the size of mechs in battletech

it's more chunky than it is tall

[serene mist]

Drop Keeps are essntially a cross between prefab forts and drop pods

Defense turrets and all

[open pumice]

A battletech mech is probably about the size of a contemptor dread

or between a contemptor and a leviathan

[serene mist]

They're also noted to carry the servant armies for the Knight House

So big, big bois

[floral siren]

actually Imperial Knights are around the same size of heavy/assault mechs from battle tech

imperial knights are 9-12 meters tall

for the proper knights

[open pumice]

fair enough

every depiction i've seen of the mechs in battletech are always like

teice the height of a car

if even

These ancient battlesuits stand thirty to forty Terran feet (9 to 12 metres) tall, are protected by nearly impenetrable Ion Shields and armed with a devastating array of heavy weapons.

"Nearly impenetrable ion sheilds"

once lance beam, bottom text

[floral siren]

here's a battletech ref with heights

[open pumice]

man

the models and game do not sell that well

and I thought WH had scaling issues lmao

[floral siren]

I'd love to get into battletech but rural area, barely enough people for a 40k community, let alone other tabletops

[open pumice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I've never enjoyed the minis

actoss all the factions all the models are just too similar

that and

A lot of battle tech players can get quite toxic about their game, so i've found attempting entry to be quite difficult

[upbeat dagger]

how does the psykanium work

[plush mason]

the chick in the tube puts us in a psykic mind space

its a holodeck but grimdark

we get in those coffin looking pods at the base and i guess are put to sleep

[floral siren]

Yup, in The Wolftime by Gav Thorpe we see some Custodes use a similar setup (though it didn't seem to need a Psyker) where one could conjure up hypothetical scenarios, such as "What if Guilliman tried to kill the Emperor" and figure out what way. If any way. It could be prevented

[upbeat dagger]

why would guilliman try to kill big e

[plush mason]

frankly

a lot of reasons

but he has more reasons not too rn

still best to stay prepared for that possible scenario

which is what any protection force worth their salt will be doing at all times for all threats even the unlikely ones

[upbeat dagger]

fair

isn't guilli one of the few genuinely good people

[arctic talon]

define good

he is still violently xenophobic and ruthless

but he wants to improve the imperium

[plush mason]

yeah

rule 1 of 40k, there are no good people

everyone is a pile of shit, some are just less odorous than others

[echo vault]

There's ogryn sized pods

[plush mason]

yeah

[echo vault]

It's funny

[plush mason]

in fact iirc all the pods are ogryn sized

[echo vault]

There's two ogryn ones and two normal ones I think

[plush mason]

k

[open marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mars-dunecrawler-warhhammer40k-dunecrawler-techpriest-imperium-gif-15720683

The Skitarii's active ability could be something like a binaric cant that buffs everyone's weapons or something

[red spruce]

oof how long you need to study on the WH40k university to know all this XD

[red spruce]

looks overcomplicated and useless
love it!

[orchid thicket]

Mk. VIII is just an inferior development of the VII isn't it? Mostly because it has less compatibility with other suits

Mk. IX could just be stuck in development hell in Mars somewhere

[plush mason]

isnt mk. 9 just mk.8 with the aquila on the breastplate?

[barren tapir]

Lol nope, maybe you are referring to the collar, which was ironically made because of how the armour was made made the neck a bullet catcher spot

[plush mason]

maybe

[plush mason]

frankly i love the look of the collar

hot take but gravis armor is the best looking SM armor to date

[echo vault]

It's pretty good, just needs more details especially on the parts below the collar

Just so it doesn't feel like you put a psyker hood on the default armor, needs more beefiness but the rest of the armor is good

[barren tapir]

I like the basic mark X, the one used by intercessors

[open marsh]

I still prefer MkII and MkIII

[fervent folio]

Greetings wise men, women and/or whatever else. I have a question.
The trailer makes it look like warpjumps are something brief. Like, jump in, jump out. And the guys were all sitting in locked down seats.
But in the ciaphas cain novels for example I think i recall cain saying they were in warp transition for a "Month or so" now

So how much time does a warpjump take exactly ?

And do you need to sit during it ?

Be awake ?

Or can you just go about your business or even take a nap ?

[jade ibex]

I mean like depends the distance you are going

But generally no

Like they tend to be like days months weeks years long voyages

Their are some eldar aspect warriors who are called warp spiders who very briefly teleport in and out of the warp

For like yknow across battle field kinda movement

[fervent folio]

So basically, you jump into the warp and then everyone just goes about their business on the ship as usual

So long as the gellar field holds that is

[jade ibex]

Yea give it take things are strange in the warp even when the Geller field is active

They are litteraly in a different plane of existence with different laws of physics and the Geller field is the only thing maintaining real space reality

Like it still effects people like no matter what people regularly get sick and creatures sometimes leak in

[fervent folio]

Ye

I mean it is the warp, that much i would probably expect

though I would imagine minor stuff leaking in

No full on greater demon

XD

[jade ibex]

Them getting strapped in is probaly just like a precaution when they come in and out of the warp

They could leak in too

Of they wanted too

Their are plenty of nonaligned warp creature out their too

[barren tapir]

It depend on the quality of the gellar field, the best one will have no problems, the less good ones will let some weird phenomena happen

[jade ibex]

Depends where you are too it's basicly a sea full of monsters who are squeseing against the field trying to get in and eat the soul juice inside

[fervent folio]

So basically a well maintained gellar field, overseen by a techpriest chanting the appropriate rituals with their data lantern onboard an imperial ship should have no problems

[jade ibex]

No they will still have problems

But like depends where you are in the warp

[fervent folio]

I see

[jade ibex]

It's got calmer parts

[barren tapir]

Eeeeehhh, no... More like old gellar field that were well maintained... Or league of votann gellar fields... While tech priest are the best for tech in the imperium they still are full of religious BS most of the time

Also, new gellar fields made by the imperium are inherently lower in quality that older ones because of the loss of knowledge that they had in the 10K years of constant warfare and religious degeneration

[upbeat dagger]

whats the difference between a helbore and a hellgun

[fervent folio]

Makes sense

[barren tapir]

One is a word coined for darktide, the other is an old name for hotshot lasguns

[jade ibex]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lasgun @upbeat dagger

[jade ibex]

not sure what a hell gun is

[barren tapir]

Hotshot lasgun

[jade ibex]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Hellgun#:~:text=A Hellgun%2C also called a,to the standard-issue Lasgun.

oh it is lol

ive always know it as a hot shot

[upbeat dagger]

ok so a helgun is a MUCH more powerful weapon, a helbore or "lucius" model lasgun is just a high power lasgun

[jade ibex]

its basicly a lasgun thats set up to always do the full charge helbore type shot

[barren tapir]

They were once two different weapons, then got fused and hellgun became the unofficial name of the hotshot lasgun

[copper patrol]

it's the veriant that the Kriegers use

[upbeat dagger]

afaik actual helbores aren't chargeshot

[jade ibex]

they usualy have like a backback with the charhe pack on them

[upbeat dagger]

and also "helbore" lasguns dont exist, they're just lucius model

[barren tapir]

Helbore is just a word used in darktide, kinda like headhunter for autogun

[upbeat dagger]

yeah

or Recon lasguns- rhat's just an acceltran model

[barren tapir]

Yes

[copper patrol]

tbf, lasguns change depending on who writes them

[barren tapir]

Also awfully taken by lore, since accatran aren't full auto

[copper patrol]

sometimes they have recoil sometimes they don't

etc

[upbeat dagger]

i think it makes sense that they could have recoil/stopping power

[copper patrol]

gameplay wise

[upbeat dagger]

recoil cuz they have to vent gasses, stopping power cuz u just got hit in the chest by a mini explosion

[copper patrol]

I prefer them to have recoil

makes them feel better to play with

[upbeat dagger]

yeah darktide's gunplay feels very good

[copper patrol]

lorewise idc since it's 40k and a lot of bullshitter can happen, like what you said that makes a lot of sense and could be a good reason to have recoil

but you know how 40k writing is

[upbeat dagger]

see lore wise infantry las probably wouldn't have em but recon las and helbores def would

cuz infantries dont heat too bad compared to the other two

[crisp heath]

I like the headcanon that lasguns have decently strong machine spirits that want to please their guardsman, so every battlefield will look slightly different because the lasguns are behaving in a way the guardsmen expect them to

So they'll make different noises, some will have recoil and others won't, they might have stopping power or they might just burn a hole through someone, etc

[upbeat dagger]

are machine-spirits a real thing?

or is admech just batshit

[copper patrol]

yes and no

[storm jungle]

They are basically just leftover artificial intelligences in various mechanical constructs.

the writers leave it largely vague as to give other authors room to experiment/do their own stuff with it

[celest dome]

They are a catch all term for many things

[storm jungle]

Again, left vague but basically just AI

[fervent folio]

AI ?

Are you a heretic ?

AI has been outlawed for millenia

The machine spirit is the soul of the machine

inherently bestowed uppon every machine built, by the great omnissiah

No such thing as abominable intelligence here

[crimson kayak]

less compatibility but it covers most weakpoints of the armor

problem with VIII was that it never saw en-masse deployement

[storm jungle]

Same thing.

[crimson kayak]

the main difference is that unlike Ai's, they don't have the ability to enchance themselves, basically think of it as "Hello World" vs a supercomputer.

[copper patrol]

it's like a VI vs an AI in halo

AI can learn and grow and such, VIs can't

[crimson kayak]

yes and no, think of it as VI that with enough age and hardware can start to gain some sort of animal-like "sentience", like Itinerant Kastellans that are literally just bands of robots going around to help random Mechanicus or Knights and Titans.

basically more a dog vs human difference in intelligence type of thing, thing is that the Mechanicum thinks Everything they make with some automatic components has a a machine spirit

and well, we all know what belief can do in 40k.

[orchid thicket]

The difference between current neural network models and the holy grail of AI research: Artificial General Intelligence

[crisp heath]

Machine spirits are at least 2 different things

One of them is a religious belief of the admech, which is the motive force imbues a machine with a degree of willpower but not sentience

The other is an extremely limited form of AI that is pretty standard in the 40k galaxy (the necrons call it the Autonomous Spirit, exodites call it the World Spirit and it doubles as a place to put their spirit stones, etc)

Machine Spirit AI is different from abominable intelligence because it lacks the ability to learn and can only do what it was programmed to, although some can perform complex behaviors to achieve that end

Titans especially basically have a mind of their own, and there was a land raider that drove itself and operated its own guns, then when it ran out of ammo it tricked the enemy into capturing and entering it then self-destructed

[signal bramble]

Machine spirits also function differently depending on which author is writing the story.

[upbeat dagger]

so are there like, devices that operate entirely off of their machine-spirit?

[signal bramble]

It’s happened yeah. There are also a few automated things believed to have a very strong machine spirit.

[upbeat dagger]

also second, can machine-spirit genuinely influence a weapon's behavior?

[copper patrol]

depends in the writer

[upbeat dagger]

like if i anger my lasgun's machine spirit is there a chance it could just fuck me over

[copper patrol]

and the weapon

well "angering" it could be not taking proper care of the weapon

which would then fuck you over

[upbeat dagger]

fair

[copper patrol]

it's like you know how sometimes IRL you can have two of the same things and they will have different quirks or problems despite being made in the same place

[upbeat dagger]

felt that, i work with pcs

i genuinely think one of my friends might've angered his pc's machine spirit cuz that pc is such a temperamental piece of shit

[copper patrol]

it's basically that but cranked up to 11 with superstition combined with it being kinda true for certain things

[upbeat dagger]

i built it same as every other pc i've built, it'll just have random bullshit problems

eg: just started randomly blackscreening except when i was examining it

then itd work fine

[copper patrol]

literally how the mechanicus came up with the idea of machine spirits

right there

[upbeat dagger]

so, i think i have an understanding that'd make sense now

machine spirit is usually old "ai" or just weapon quirks that have evolved to be something more via superstition and worship

like if i had to explain it to someone would that be a good explanation

[copper patrol]

pretty much

[upbeat dagger]

are there any sentient ai left?

nekron dont count

[copper patrol]

yeah

there is a short story of mechanicus and some space marines encountering one

and is wild

it like shuts down the space marine's armor

and mocks the techpriest

[upbeat dagger]

so AI are fucken scary in this

[copper patrol]

also the new league of votann

the votann are ai

[barren tapir]

Itinerant kastellan robots are pretty much that

[copper patrol]

also cawl probably made one

becuase he's cawl

[barren tapir]

They arrive, they submit themself to orders of tech priest, then when they decide to fuck off they severe the connection and go away

[upbeat dagger]

also why do i hear people shitting on admech so often

[barren tapir]

And no one seems to wonder how they arrived and how they get away

[upbeat dagger]

like they're so cool imo and also i want hadron to step on me-

[barren tapir]

Depend on what is being shitted on, some authors like to make Ad. Mech. to do dumb stuff just because lolz

[copper patrol]

something something overused toaster memes I guess something something

[upbeat dagger]

i hear people badmouthing admech a lot, especially on grimdank

[barren tapir]

Probably because dumb stuff by authors then

[upbeat dagger]

like ex there was a prompt about "you get dropped into 40k with an stc containing every blueprint man has made up to this point, do u give it to admech or guilliman" and most people were talking abt how admech would fuck it up

[barren tapir]

Like, i shit on Ad. Mech. cowboys and flying abomonations and the awful flappy flyer becuase they are extremely dumb, while others try to defend it by dumb arguments like it fit the theme of Ad. Mech.

[upbeat dagger]

i mean more like people talk like admech have no idea what they're doing

[barren tapir]

Because authors like to show how Ad. Mech. awfully manage tech and knowledge

And do so in dumb ways

It is more memey, like when a forge world defeat a nids hive fleet, and such report get then thrown in a warehouse and forgotten

[copper patrol]

I mean

admech are cool

but they are dumb

dumb as in like decision making

"oh you invented something, that's heresy, die"

[celest dome]

Only if you're not from the Admech

[copper patrol]

no they'll do it if you are admech too

but only if you aren't high up

[echo vault]

Speaking of admech are things like the thallax, thanatar, and castellan robots and every other one in-between like the domnitar still kicking in 40k

[arctic talon]

Yes but they aren’t allowed off forge worlds

[signal bramble]

What’s the difference between a wasp and a bee?

A wasp will sting you and Abby wants to tear down the imperium and destroy the corpse emperor.

[celest dome]

I feel like I know where you go this

[arctic talon]

Lol

[timid ferry]

Not funny. Didn’t laugh

[formal gyro]

So do you guys think the emperor or the primarch ever had to piss or shit?

[desert dust]

Ye they aren't demons

[mellow field]

i dont thiink he needs to eat or drink

[torpid narwhal]

does any1 have a picture of a zaruthie or something

i cant spell it so i cant google it

[crisp heath]

TRAZYN HAS A KRORK? HOW DID I NOT KNOW UNTIL NOW THATS AMAZING

[arctic talon]

It’s never gona leave stasis the same way clonegrim won’t

[echo vault]

I like to imagine the way they construct vehicles on forge worlds is the same exact way we construct the models

[crimson kayak]

I mean, nurgle daemons do shit a bunch

[desert dust]

Warp shit

[crimson kayak]

Now that I think about it I don't even know if a warhammer store exists where I live

[signal bramble]

They have a store locator on the GW website where you can enter your zip code and tells you about first and third party stores in the area.

[ripe ravine]

if not an official GW store you probably have a comic or art supply store in your area that sells warhammer stuff unless you live somewhere super rural

[echo vault]

Shout-out to this psycho who painted their knight too fucking much it's so fuckig crispy

[signal bramble]

Oof. I’m a knights main and those armor plates look so bare without any decals or freehand on them.

It’s a nice paint job but bare armor plates are like an unfurnished apartment.

[signal bramble]

And the mono color.

Damn.

[echo vault]

Looked ugly poor thing

[barren tapir]

I like it, maybe not the colour choices, but as pattern is nice

[echo vault]

It is nice I just thought it looked crispy, wanted to take a bite

[signal bramble]

He didn’t pick out any details.

It’s just the bare minimum for battle ready.

[echo vault]

With more recent chapters like the astral claws turning traitor would this mean there's more if a chance for chaos storm bolters to exist

Insert chaos previously loyalist only stuff

[signal bramble]

[echo vault]

Swag

[signal bramble]

That’s already a thing.

[echo vault]

Just anything that was made for loyalists only after the heresy which is a yes but just curious

[copper patrol]

I mean

just pick up one from a dead guy

[signal bramble]

Chaos marines live a life of piracy and regular steal from marines they kill.

[echo vault]

I love stealing and looting space marine equipment

[signal bramble]

There’s a series of excerpts in the 9th edition core book where some iron warriors steal some intercessor bolt rifles and have no idea wtf they are.

[echo vault]

Amazing

[signal bramble]

The excerpts follow the IW around and give you an idea of what it’s like. One of the other interesting bits is the iron warriors realizing they have 6 months worth of supplies which is a huge amount of wealth by chaos marine standards.

[echo vault]

I like space Marines basically doing the same shit any guardsman or irl soldiers do, Always fun

[arctic talon]

Tbh that’s almost always been a gameplay thing

To make the CSM and SM books feel distinct

[echo vault]

Fuck gameplay I need more gayplay

[arctic talon]

😳

[orchid thicket]

Though I am weak

the Emperor gives me strength

[mystic geyser]

Do we know who " sister hestia prine" is? A Voice actor has a credit on imdb.

[orchid thicket]

Trust the Emperor if you cannot trust yourself

He loves us all 🙂

[simple sparrow]

You mean the Carrion Lord 😤

[orchid thicket]

😩

[arctic talon]

Might be made up, aside from that might be an upcoming character or something

[mystic geyser]

Could be cool having a battle sister bossing us around.
Also two female Voice Actors credited as traitor captains.

I am assuming we'll see Captain Wolfer again... or is that optimistic.

[crisp heath]

Pain

[signal bramble]

Trazyn will never give up his copy of a mint condition primarch.

[rose thorn]

Hey what was up with that bell he threw in the web way)

[crisp heath]

I mean he gave up a custodian at cadia all we need is a bigger planet than cadia to almost fall to chaos 😂

[echo vault]

I have a lore tidbit that a leader of a EC warband would rather die by the side of the elusive clone fulgrim than serve the primarch in their corrupted state