#40k-lore-chat

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crisp heath
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He wanted a race of huge, sweaty men who would dote on his every need because his boyfriend dumped him when he stole God's secret language

honest trellis
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The Emperor's goals are kinda vague and people that know him call him a bastard

arctic talon
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Anything else is a big ???

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^

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Malcador KEKW

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and Olly

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And a lot of other people

plush mason
arctic talon
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I mean Malcador had a whole host of other issues

crisp heath
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I'll put it like this: The Emperor has always been set-dressing, not a character. He's a bit more of a character now, and a lot of people don't like that, but some people do.

plush mason
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What about the crusades and stuff

crisp heath
brittle slate
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I’d largely agree

crisp heath
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Here's an article that has some good recs for SoB stuff but I haven't read them all

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arctic talon
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The great crusade has the Horus heresy series for it

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Which is uh

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Long

brittle slate
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But im open to any literature, videos, ect

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I bought a few 40k games as suggestions

brittle slate
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Games are odd

arctic talon
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I like how Big E is an absolutely terrible person tbh

crisp heath
brittle slate
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They usually play fast and loose with concepts

arctic talon
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Anything else is eh

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arctic talon
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Yeah that alsop

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Idk how my choices were

brittle slate
arctic talon
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Pretty good

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But I looked up recommendations

arctic talon
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Except total war 3 is fantasy

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It’s still great tho

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I got that just to play mainstream Warhammer

brittle slate
arctic talon
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Also total war 3 has some people who are alive when they should be dead

crisp heath
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Space Marine is one of the best 40k games, but I think Darktide will give it a run for it's money. TW3 is a different setting but a very good game, and some people like Space Hulk but many don't.

arctic talon
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But eh

brittle slate
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Then Get dawn of war dark crusade

plush mason
arctic talon
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I like people who are evil in lore in 40k

brittle slate
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Like, the reason why he has 18 sons and only male super soldiers should just be because he hates women

arctic talon
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Within reason

brittle slate
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That’s a totally valid reason

crisp heath
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I just think it's hilarious when people make him a fascist twink. 10/10.

arctic talon
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Lol

honest trellis
brittle slate
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And would be better then “um, science… testosterone… yeaaaah”

honest trellis
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DOW1 and 2 are great

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3 is garbage

brittle slate
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Skip 3

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Lol

arctic talon
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Honestly my opinion on it is just

crisp heath
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The Emperor isn't gay because he likes men. He's gay because he hates women.

plush mason
honest trellis
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Space Marine is a great fun experience and intro to Ultramarines- if a bit cleaner than some of their lore

arctic talon
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He doesn’t want super humans to fuck

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But also him just hating women works

brittle slate
crisp heath
arctic talon
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True

brittle slate
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Faith.

crisp heath
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He literally asked this man to help raise his sons

arctic talon
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Big E loves sweaty oiled men smarf

crisp heath
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The Emperor is a fascist twink and I will hear no other arguments.

brittle slate
arctic talon
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Lol

plush mason
arctic talon
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Yeah

honest trellis
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TBF there's a nonzero chance marines were gonna get shanked

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he did it before

crisp heath
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I genuinely really like the reading that the Emperor's endgame was just a giant rager with a bunch super hot superhumans

arctic talon
honest trellis
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and custodes were suspiciously good at it

arctic talon
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I’m of the opinion the marines were marked for extinction

honest trellis
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"gee I wonder what happens when the Marines are surplus to requirements"

brittle slate
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Suspicious like a butcher knows where your jugular is.

honest trellis
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"I wonder why so many unstable loose cannons were left to do the dirty work"

crisp heath
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I think the implication is that he saw some space marines as expendable and others not. I think Horus at one point implies there's only a good reason to keep 5 of the legions around?

plush mason
brittle slate
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I did hope the primaris were just the 2.0 model

honest trellis
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*when

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the SM were never gonna be kept in the Legions they were

arctic talon
honest trellis
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even the Legions noticed

arctic talon
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Cawl used research from big-e and the raptor project

honest trellis
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The Council taking over may as well have been an expiration date on a milk carton

brittle slate
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More expendable “clone” army to secure the galaxy’s edge from tyranids

arctic talon
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And the Selenar gene cults

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Were also working

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On space marines 2

brittle slate
crisp heath
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I mean he might have kept like, Blood Angels and the other "perfect" ones, but he definitely wouldve btfo'd the World Eaters and Night Lords eventually

brittle slate
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Nah- they would have all gone

arctic talon
brittle slate
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And I think the primarchs sensed that

arctic talon
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It implies they were working on something

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For the emperor

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And odds are whatever it was

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It was gona replace the marines

crisp heath
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I'm going back to Horus' vision. Yes, Chaos was misleading him, but he only saw 5 primarchs. There are 9 loyalists. Big E probably had plans to keep some and end others.

honest trellis
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Horus's vision was a few steps below literally sticking his head in the warp

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arctic talon
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Yeah big E was prolly gona kill corax and khan for loyalists imo

honest trellis
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kill maybe not

dusk patrol
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What Cawl made was just organs which were already planned

honest trellis
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"Retire" to house arrest

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yes

dusk patrol
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He just found out what he could

arctic talon
honest trellis
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their legions were gonners though

arctic talon
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He’d prolly want to get them out of the way

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For who went traitor well

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Angron

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crisp heath
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All I'm saying is he probably knew he wanted Angron gone the moment he found him.

arctic talon
dusk patrol
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Khan, maybe, but Corax he trusted with a shitton

arctic talon
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But Corax was such an idealist

honest trellis
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Morty was probably borderline

crisp heath
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Corax really wasn't that bad. I think he was probably more worried about The Lion

arctic talon
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But you’re prolly right

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The Lion was super loyal

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Imo the Lion over anyone else would have been left alive

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He’s the Emperors dog

brittle slate
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I think it’s funny how the emperor basically wanted to get to the “eldar” level of civilization

crisp heath
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The Lion was super loyal but super... unusual. He hid things even from the Emperor.

dusk patrol
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Most of them I think were meant to have a place eventually

arctic talon
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Odds are yeah

brittle slate
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Magnus on the throne

dusk patrol
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Angron and Mortarion arguably were always gonna have issues, Curze definitely too

brittle slate
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Sanguinius as the Emperor

crisp heath
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The Lion was one of the more Good Guy types, but he was very underhanded with how he went about that

dusk patrol
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But most of the rest have easy places they could be put.

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And at the end of the day, the Astartes were never going to not be needed.

brittle slate
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Lion as the general, horus maybe to go out and take the ghoul stars

crisp heath
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The Emperor had total and absolute trust, and necessity, for Leman. He was literally so necessary and trusted that the Emperor gave him dog DNA to make sure he never rebelled.

dusk patrol
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Sanguinius was the symbol.

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Angron arguably was supposed to be the one who held them together as brothers originally

crisp heath
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Leman was literally designed to kill other primarchs, the Emperor needed him.

dusk patrol
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Cause irony

honest trellis
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TBH I kinda suspect they were gonna throw the Legions at some meatgrinder

brittle slate
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The ghoul stars

honest trellis
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then retire most the Primarchs after the Legions get butchered

dusk patrol
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Basically, there's not much for parallels with them and the Thunder Warriors

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Which is something people miss

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The TW were made not to last

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They never were supposed to

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They even knew that

arctic talon
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The thunder warriors were def much more disposable

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But the legions prolly would have been broken up

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At the very least

crisp heath
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Thunder Warriors had literally 0 self control, they were cancer-ridden psychopaths. Primarchs and Space Marines could both act "normal", even though some were bad eggs.

dusk patrol
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Astartes were made to last for thousands of years, some I think would have probably been put down or sent to die.

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Like the World Eaters

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But most would still have a purpose post crusade, and primarchs like Guilliman and Sanguinius were specifically trying to ensure they would.

arctic talon
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Night lords prolly tbh

dusk patrol
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Yeah

crisp heath
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And we also can't act like Custodes are perfect- Valdor eventually went bad.

dusk patrol
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Well

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We don't know

crisp heath
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so he would keep around some "imperfect" ones

dusk patrol
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That's still a big unknown as to what hes doing

honest trellis
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Valdor is a question mark

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and also spoilers

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so don't spoil the newbie pls

crisp heath
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I mean we literally know ||he's a champion of chaos||

dusk patrol
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No

honest trellis
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also we don't

dusk patrol
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We don't

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Read the book

arctic talon
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Oh no

dusk patrol
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If anything its the opposite in some ways

arctic talon
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Oh nvm they’re alive

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Oh

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That’s concerning

honest trellis
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discord keeps eating messages. But shush.

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...autodetect of too many letters?

crisp heath
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I spoilered it, but that's something that I think most people other than the newbie are familiar with

dusk patrol
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idk

dusk patrol
honest trellis
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nah it's fairly obscure

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keep it that way

crisp heath
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Oh. Well, I don't think it was a fakeout, and I guess that's the last I'll say on the subject.

dusk patrol
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I don't either

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But it doesn't mean we know whats up

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It being what it says at the end does not make him that

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There's still so much we have no clue about

tidal dome
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So what I figured. Scabs are IG regiment. Dregs are actually PDF

arctic talon
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more specifically Dregs are cultists from the cult of admonition

warm crest
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I'm writing an Avatar fanfic

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The RDA vs Necromorph/Karcist/Sardukhar legions lets go

sinful crater
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the pdf, aka the enforcer, was hit pretty badly. even if they was abandonning some sector, like torrent that was left to the guild... that why you don't found enforcer body around this area.

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for make it short, what we know soo far.... an uprising did start lead by the cult of admonition, they did try to poison the water, grendel (probably) did order the warband and the 6th to be send to reinforce the security force of atoma and deal with it.

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sadly the 6th that did come from the frontier was already heretic and did join hand with the cult... leading rannick to only have the warband and the mourningstar to deal with this situation.

fallen marsh
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PDF and enforcers are two different things

sinful crater
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ok, did think they was the same.

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but well all in all...zola at the start seems to been send to the penal ship for get the officier of the 6th that was in the jail

fallen marsh
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Enforcers are police

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PDF is local military

sinful crater
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ok ok

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thanks for sharing, like this i will not make the mistake

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my only grips about the story soo far (even if that make sense since we are reject) is we don't have a clear view of the situation. we don't know how many hab are lost or under attack and some info we get seems to not match

mystic geyser
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Realistic, I guess.

sinful crater
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by example throneside is said to be only recently attacked by the heretic in the enclavum baross mission....when the coms-plex mission show us that some large part of the throneside was hit by the plague and many marking of the chaos can be seen.

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i hope with the introduction of the endgame, when we get into the warband story we will get access to more information about the advancement of the situation

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because right now we are send blind in some area without really know if the situation is bad or not.

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leading us to kill thousand of heretic per mission.

mystic geyser
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Imdb credits two female voice actors as "traitor captain". Do we think that's possibly future content? Or maybe just the other female scab characters..

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(Relevant today as I'm looking at my new female khorne blood bowl booster pack and thinking one would make a great traitor captain...)

celest dome
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Hopefully Dreg Champion this time, maybe Sorcerer to make them stand out

sinful crater
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i'm not in hurry to face any sort of sorcerer

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i means when you see what a captain is able to do :x

mystic geyser
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A sorceror would be sweet

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Could do so much carnage

upbeat dagger
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uh, isnt our Preacher shouting "Blood for the emperor! Skulls for the golden throne!" like

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really bad

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like heresy bad

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like 2 words off of khorne worship bad

warm crest
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Fun fact: I got a conspiracy that with all the autogun patterns out there, the inclusion of a holosight and a flashlight, the fact that the revolver skins having a slightly different model...the COD system style of crafting modular upgrades was planned

upbeat dagger
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isnt- wait is fs actually on here

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or just fan discord

mystic geyser
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Sometimes a Community person shows up on general

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I think it is an official discord

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I think the guns are deliberately designed to be customisable. But that might just be for skins, it doesn't necessarily mean a modding system

upbeat dagger
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interesting

upbeat dagger
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ive heard a lot of people say if anyone heard out preachers say that shed be executed on grounds of corruption like instantly

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(i say she cuz iirc only female preacher says it)

mystic geyser
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Nah anything goes as long as it's for the Emperor

upbeat dagger
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cuz isnt that just a repurposed khorne saying?

mystic geyser
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Death cults are savage, but the inquisition tolerates them

warm crest
upbeat dagger
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ah, ouch

sinful crater
warm crest
upbeat dagger
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I don't know much about the community managers, I just know people don't like hedge

warm crest
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Some of em OGs and from tg

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And grimdank users

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So they have teeth and get angry at the slightest provocation

sinful crater
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i have no though about hedge or any cm or warden

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i means they do the shittiest work around, i means they are treated like some servoskull by some fan around... when all they can do it bring news.

upbeat dagger
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the way i see it, hedge has made some frankly downright insulting comments, but he's still just a regular person.

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as someone who works in retail i WISH i could talk to customers the way hedge does

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*some customers

sinful crater
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honestly the general is as horrible than a dumpster some time

mystic geyser
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...yeah

sinful crater
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i can understand that people are angry and displeased, ok... but some was worst than any karen around..

upbeat dagger
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i mainly stick to lore and preacher chats

sinful crater
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lore, vet, ogryn generally

upbeat dagger
sinful crater
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everytime i try to check the general i have the feeling to have enter the eye of the terror

rapid trellis
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Why are all the techpriest kinda.. rotting?

upbeat dagger
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i understand the game shipped fairly unfinished

sinful crater
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honestly when they did announce it as live as service i did expect something far worst!

mystic geyser
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@rapid trellis they value machines over flesh

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And are often very old

upbeat dagger
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better launch than destiny 2

sinful crater
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hahahaha

upbeat dagger
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and d2 is one of my favorite games

rapid trellis
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I mean, this dude is almost full machine but he isnt rotting

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upbeat dagger
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different stories

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different writers

mystic geyser
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I think that might be cgi

sinful crater
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by the way the fact than a c'tan shard is on mars is still a thing?

mystic geyser
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Yeah

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I don't think it's broken out yet? Not that I've read the new edition codex

upbeat dagger
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the adeptus mechanicus generally take little to no care of their fleshy bits afaik, leading to their rotting appearance

sinful crater
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and if something don't work anymore they simply take it out and replace it

upbeat dagger
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compared to their machinery

rapid trellis
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Ah gotcha, that explains it better

upbeat dagger
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but yeah so back to earlier, darktide's survived longer than d2
afaik early d2 launch, it dropped and was popular for like a month before the playerbase took a SHARP drop

sinful crater
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hadron is probably the person the oldest on the mourning star

upbeat dagger
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they nearly had to can d2

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meanwhile darktide's great, the gameplay is fucking fantastic and thats what makes it for me

sinful crater
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i come from FF14 (i was on the V1, i know i was crazy) then bad launch i know

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yeah the gameplay is top notch, when you play with friend the game is insanely good

upbeat dagger
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every gun feels good imo

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cept the ogryn's single barrel and even then its funny as fuck so i give it a pass

mystic geyser
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@sinful crater though Morrow is pretty damn old. Wibbley wobbley timey wimey

sinful crater
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well some have flaws they need to adress like plasma

upbeat dagger
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thunderhammer

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psyker

sinful crater
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eviscerator

upbeat dagger
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whatre u on

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evisc slaps

sinful crater
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psyker is not a weapon... but yeah

celest dome
sinful crater
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eviscerator are means to be a mix of power sword and chainsword

mystic geyser
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I've enjoyed every weapon I've found. Maybe some of the external balance is off, but that can be tweaked out.

sinful crater
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what we have right now is a two hand chainsword, not an eviscerator

celest dome
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Evicerator don't have stable Power fields usually

upbeat dagger
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I love the eviscerator tbh, its so far my favorite melee

mystic geyser
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Latest kit the eviscerator has a underslung flamethrower attached...

sinful crater
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i love the evi too, but it hurt to know that is not what it's really is

celest dome
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We might see 2h Flaming Chainswords

sinful crater
celest dome
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Yup, there is also a Flamer with underslung Chainsaw that would be neat

upbeat dagger
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could be wrong abt the buff tho

sinful crater
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technically chainsword are always tearing, the special we have is simply us forcing the weapon to go faster

warm crest
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I utterly hate Fatsharl, the game and the fanbase

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Hell in fact I genuinely hate everybody here tbh

sinful crater
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then i can ask, without offense ok, why stay here?

mystic geyser
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Then be somewhere else 😂

warm crest
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But hatred is fun tbh

upbeat dagger
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then why the fuck u here

warm crest
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I love the adrenaline

sinful crater
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ahhh a khornate, i understand

warm crest
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Me and gaming already have an abusive relationship and honestly?

upbeat dagger
warm crest
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I fucking hate CS and I fucking hate Val

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But just like Darktide being angry is fun

sinful crater
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maybe we must contact the comissar?

upbeat dagger
sinful crater
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joke aside

warm crest
upbeat dagger
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im shocked

warm crest
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I play Warframe and yes I hate DE

upbeat dagger
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oh yep

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there it is

warm crest
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Anyways

sinful crater
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do you like anything? i means not hating something?

warm crest
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Hate makes Darktide fun since there is a certain sense of camaraderie that comes from ragging on an asshole in chat

sinful crater
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i'm sure your favorite faction are khorne, right?

warm crest
upbeat dagger
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based

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love admech

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sinful crater
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i'm still a space wolves fan, but well old timer

warm crest
sinful crater
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yeah, yeah i know

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sinful crater
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they have some of the most badass heroes

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i means logan grimnar is still one of the most badass gramp around, do you know a lot of space marine that did steal a weapon to a champion of chaos and reforge it for get it as his personal weapon?

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brittle slate
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… I mean… dark angels fan. Space wolves can take a number 3 and be fucked.

warm crest
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Inquisitors check their closets every night for Space Wolves

brittle slate
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They should have lost Fenris when magnus came back

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Weak plot armor bs

mystic geyser
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@brittle slate Thousand Sons fan. Kill all space wolves.

brittle slate
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And then bending the knee to the inquisition after all that?

sinful crater
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never!

brittle slate
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Fuck running with their tails between their legs- they got that shit cut off

sinful crater
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the bridge with the inquisition was totally burn after the month of shame

brittle slate
sinful crater
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grimnar did order the explosion of the twin world of fenris, not the inquisition

brittle slate
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Should have lost Fenris.

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The gang could have been dislodged with survivors and they could have become a fleet based chapter

sinful crater
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we can say this of the space smurf with the first war against the nids

brittle slate
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One step closer to ragnarok

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But magnus killing Midgard? Like who cares

sinful crater
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it was not yet the wolf hours brother! don't worry fenris will probably be destroyed at some point in the wolf hours

brittle slate
brittle slate
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They killed their own

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They let the inquisition have its way

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All the hype for a planet barely anyone knew existed getting yeeted

sinful crater
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yeah, don't let me start about this, i means this whole story was a mess, like the changeling on the rock without the watcher acting

brittle slate
brittle slate
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Actually getting to Terra and…???

sinful crater
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the whole story was about screw the space wolves more than anything

brittle slate
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A big nothing burger

sinful crater
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that the trouble with the writer, if they want to screw something they can easily find a way

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but at least fenrir didn't get the cadia treatment

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i means ok, we can't make them look weak.... ok drop the black citadel on the planet and blow it

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if the goal was to destroy it from the get go...why not exterminatus it

brittle slate
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Because the ritual

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The 12 other crusades were setting up things for the domino effect

north lotus
celest dome
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Does anyone have the voice lines about the other hive ? The one that people always link up about Genestealer cult

mystic geyser
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Uh I screenshotted it but forgot to save.

Something along the lines of "why don't we go to the Other hive, the one we're not allowed to talk about"
And then the supervisor tells him off

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The psyker who talks to his Beloved.

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Another good line is that "exterminatus wouldn't work, what we need to destroy is buried deep. "

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New favourite Ogryn line

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slow rampart
celest dome
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But it's never confirmed to be Genestealer does it ?

mystic geyser
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Macragge And Armageddon? Morrow gets about

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Or has a good rumormonger

shadow plover
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Hah now I start to think all of these are rumours honestly KEKW_ogryn

slender orchid
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He'd have to have had a tremendous amount of juvenat work. Talking about a 300+ year old sergeant

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Or people just hyping their scary, tough as nails sarge.

barren tapir
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Lol, we get new azrael mini

storm jungle
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might be one of the most generic Marine miniatures ive seen

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the Jawa is great tho

shadow plover
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It's pretty faithful to the original and it fixed the magic bullet feed for the bolter

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Think it's pretty good for what it is

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Great helmet

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Biig wings

storm jungle
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Its definitely the most Space Marines of all time

dusk patrol
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It’s the perfect model update to me

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It keeps what was good about the original, makes it look better.

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Gives a good helmeted option

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Fixed the weird bullpup thing

storm jungle
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To be fair

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its literally just a carbon copy with updated graphics

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kind of hard to get it wrong

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the bolter is even more cursed which I approve of

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also again, Jawa

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I T U N I

dusk patrol
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Sure but that’s what I want from updates mostly, especially if the original is good

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If it ain’t broke don’t fix it deal

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And the option for the jawa in the dark to carry the scabbard instead is really nice

warm crest
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Y'all ever realize that the little civilian landers found all around the game have no cockpits?

storm jungle
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might be due to them just being junk

warm crest
storm jungle
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You mean the valkyries?

warm crest
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They appear as background dressing sometimes

full bane
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The Arvus Lighters?

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Pretty sure the ones in the Hourglass are all just wrecked.

warm crest
dusk patrol
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Why not?

storm jungle
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^

full bane
storm jungle
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The cockpit is usually the most important part of an aircraft and its where all the good tech usually is

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the other parts of it you can just scrap for whatever

full bane
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Back of the Lighter is just a cargo bay in most of them.

warm crest
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I think I see it now

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It was a smash and grab

full bane
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And it's probably easier to get into the cockpit than to try and pry open the metal door.

warm crest
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They literally smashed the cockpit and looted everything valuable inside

storm jungle
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again

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cockpit important

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shiny bitz

lilac wave
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They'd probably have to have some sort of grav plate or something. There's literally nothing in the imperium that looks like it could stay airborn through aerodynamic force. Wonder if a crafty heretic could rip the lifters off of a civilian craft and jury rig some sort of ramshackle grav weapon.

storm jungle
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They stay afloat through plot

astral whale
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@mellow crescent The main reason I say corruption is that it makes sense. Sororitas are far from angels of the battlefield. They are a sorority of war crimes.

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Since they commit extreme acts of faith in the name of their god (EXACTLY what Chaos Cults do)

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What happens to a Sister when they ascend to Daemonhood? Sainthood.

mellow crescent
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yeah it's been theorised that saint celistine is actually a daemon prince of the emperor. We know she's technically a warp entity but we dont know yet exactly how or why. But regular sisters? Not warp tainted. They don't have any mutations that would indicate warp taint, like the way mutated cultists have. You can worship a chaos god or any other god without being tainted by the warp itself

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so they're not corrupted the same way mutated cultists do

warm crest
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Then some techpriest decides to make things "show the defiance of man against natural forces" by taping on a ton of thick bulky armor plating, gothic architecture, weapon hardpoints and bling on it

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So the original design is crippled and thus watered down

astral whale
warm crest
mellow crescent
astral whale
dusk patrol
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I wouldn't even say minor tbh

warm crest
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Okay I dont think that he is a Chaos god

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But rather just a warp god

signal bramble
rain pike
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Sisters of battle are just like priests of sigmar in fantasy!

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Because 40k came from fantasy.

Psykers just harness the winds of magic but call it different.

storm jungle
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Dont compare the gigachads that are the Warrior Priests of Sugmah to anything in 40k

rain pike
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SoB just harness the winds like the sigmar priests

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Soz chief! 40k is just futuristic Pulp fantasy

storm jungle
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*DIES*

rain pike
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GW try not to properly explain Psykers in the lore because it's literally just Fantasy magic KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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Well yeah its literally just magic

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just with a "psychic powers" thing slapped on

brittle slate
signal bramble
brittle slate
unique berry
plush mason
brittle slate
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Him and the greater good goddess both do good guy magic

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Which is 10x more powerful then bad guy magic

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And it’s gold. That’s how you know it’s good.

rain pike
brittle slate
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Why not

rain pike
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You know what! I dig it

mystic geyser
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On Commodore Alice Hallowette.

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Any other hints she's a blank?

barren tapir
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Why should she be a blank?

dusk patrol
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If she was a blank it wouldn’t really be a secret

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Can’t hide something like that

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Or are you likely to ascend that high in rank

barren tapir
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I mean, if they had Dan then it is completely possible there is a blank at high rank

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And that is not so easy to spot them

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Dan has a funny way to manage blanks

plush mason
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inb for Marrow is a blank

weak pecan
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I bet it's zola

barren tapir
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He was the only survivor of a golgotha class trasport lost in the warp wasn't him? Make sense

mystic geyser
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Because the psykers inner voice doesn't know anything about her. Just a hunch, could be something more interesting. Or nothing.

barren tapir
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By your own post it refuse to speak about her, not that it doesn't know anything about her

honest trellis
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due to the soulless aura

hard nymph
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okay very dumb question i know it but like.... why there are towers in the ceiling? is just for the atmosphere or i dunno they have uses for it.

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hard nymph
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Huh.. so those upside down places are habitable?

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but somekind of gravity making it so that people can walk on them i guess. huh

celest dome
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No they use normal grav

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It's just that they live on a stalactic like structure

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Like hanging houses

fierce pendant
celest dome
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Blank don't kill Psyker with their mere presence

fierce pendant
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it was a meme

celest dome
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But they do find them disorienting

dusk patrol
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Everyone finds them off putting

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Can’t really hide a blank aura well, besides being like Jurgen and playing into it

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By giving them a real reason to be disgusted by you

celest dome
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Aren't there limiters and stuff ? Like with Psykers
And as always there are weaker and stronger Blank so some would be more off putting than other

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Like Hallowette is being antagonistic anyway

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Like mocking us and stuff

crisp heath
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Dan Abnett is a writer and he's notorious for writing blanks as if they aren't blanks

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But really I haven't noticed anything except that line that suggests she is one

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Everyone on the Mourningstar is a bit of a dick

upbeat dagger
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its also possible that yhe voice in psyker's head isnt actually the emperor, and therefore knows as much about hallowette as the psyker does

barren tapir
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In a quote of the psyker they say that their beloved mention another god, but the psyker remark that the beloved is the only god, so it seems that the psykers believe it is the emperor speaking to them

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Which could mean that they could actually be talking with a fragmented part of big E, but also some other entity, which weirdly enough seems to hate chaos too

crisp heath
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The idea that Big E is psychically dating Psykers across the Galaxy really fits my "omnipotent twink" obsession

barren tapir
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Well, we know that the mind of big E is super fragmented, and we also know that each of such fragments have their own agendas, so, after the great rift there is quite a possibility that some of such fragments decided to stick to someone peculiarly receptive to them

brittle slate
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really just hammers down on what a pos he is

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... warhammers down.

nocturne crest
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What would a holiday named after each primarch be like?

dusk patrol
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Sanguinala tbh works better as Easter for me

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I always though a Russ holiday would work for Christmas

vital kernel
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Guilliman should be the thanksgiving equivalent, makes sense

dusk patrol
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Corax I guess would be Halloween

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Can’t really do traitor primarchs for that

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The Khan would be new years

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Dorn for Valentine’s Day

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Non others are acceptable

vital kernel
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Lions holiday is classified.

stiff spear
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k

real helm
#

Are the iron warriors involved with tertium? Lots of enemies have hazard stripes on their armor and the legion does enjoy using attrition tactics with their slaves.

honest trellis
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no signs of iron warriors tbh

real helm
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Darn 😦

topaz warren
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I want to see a Death Guard.

real helm
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But then he gets turned to a chaos spawn for failing

topaz warren
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I mean, you could definitely make an arguement for it.

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Not to mention Dadd- I mean, Father Nurgle loves us all equally.

real helm
#

Sadly think it might be a bust since they already used that for Vermintide 2 where the boss turns into a spawn mid fight.

topaz warren
#

Why not reuse it?

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Isn't 40K technically WH but future?

signal bramble
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It's considered a separate continuity.

topaz warren
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It's largely the same, tho.

signal bramble
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Indeed. But it's not considered the same timeline.

topaz warren
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I didn't intend for it to seem like I was saying it was the same timeline.

signal bramble
topaz warren
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If we get Death Guard...

real helm
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No IW representation, feels bad.

signal bramble
# topaz warren If we get Death Guard...

The meta build for death guard for a while was pox walker spam and it's mentioned how they use them in their codexes. The IW prefer to use cultists as their cannon fodder.

topaz warren
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I personally like DG.

signal bramble
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Same. I own an entire DG army, fully painted and everything. ^_^

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Painted it myself.

topaz warren
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If only I could afford that.

signal bramble
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40k armies aren't something you buy all at once. You just one box at a time and pace yourself.

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Finishing my first army took months.

topaz warren
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Ma's coworker friend who's into 40k was gonna get me a Mortarion pack for Christmas, but it hasn't shown up yet.

real helm
#

Proxy your army with a bunch of soda cans and candy wrappers.

signal bramble
topaz warren
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I'm less of a player since I don't know any table toppers.

signal bramble
#

The meta has shifted away from the pox walker build and to infantry focus nowadays.

topaz warren
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Figured I'd just have them on a shelf somewhere in my room.

signal bramble
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Plague marine spam.

topaz warren
#

The lore behind the DG kinda snagged me, tbh.

signal bramble
#

I dunno about your social media presence, but you can usually find locals on facebook or go to your nearest hobby shops and ask them if they have any 40k nights.

brittle slate
topaz warren
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I don't think any of my local hobby shops do 40k stuff.

signal bramble
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You should ask.

topaz warren
#

And to end his soldier's suffering.

brittle slate
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There’s always a choice

signal bramble
#

Morty and his marines were tortured by disease until they broke.

brittle slate
#

Chaos is a little like the devil in that way

real helm
#

Rip Ahriman and the Thousand Femboys

brittle slate
#

Womp

topaz warren
#

Morty refused to give in until the very end.

signal bramble
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And then Nurgle didn't cure them or anything, just made them immune to the pain.

honest trellis
brittle slate
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~Abbaddon. Probably

honest trellis
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"The beliefs of the Death Guard echoed those of Mortarion, beginning as one thing and ending as the corrupt opposite. A resolute determination that individuals should be free of oppression and terror became a conviction that individuals were not suited to decide what was just for them. A faith in inner strength, iron will and unshakeable resolution in the face of hardship led to pride, arrogance and an utter contempt for those they deemed inferior."

signal bramble
#

Morty is also well aware of what happened to him and that Typhus betrayed him, but he doesn't really care anymore.

topaz warren
#

I thought the second in command guy started the corruption thing?

honest trellis
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"When Nurgle's Rot came to the stranded Death Guard, their pride and arrogance was revealed, and their contempt for weakness turned upon themselves. Their surrender to Nurgle left them with only one seething, burning outlet, stoked white-hot by the depth of their self-loathing: to infect the strong, slay the weak and rot the foundations of everything in their paths until it collapses. Their debasement would no longer seem so shameful, if the pestilence of their Unclean Lord eventually brought everything to ruin."

honest trellis
signal bramble
#

Typhus was the one that trapped them, yes.

brittle slate
#

Stabbed em in the back

honest trellis
#

some among the death guard under his command were already turning to Nurgle

signal bramble
#

He even told Morty to his face what he'd done.

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In the Plague Wars novels.

honest trellis
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"For Mortarion and the Space Marines of the Death Guard there was nothing so terrifying as the plague which made their legendary resilience meaningless. These were the warriors who the Imperium had sent to conquer worlds no other man could set foot upon, much less fight on and win. Pestilence, contagion, toxin and pollution; there was no environment so hostile which Mortarion and the Death Guard could not overcome, until the plague which raced through their fleet. It roiled in their guts, bloating and distending their once superhuman bodies, transforming them into horrible, pustulent grotesques. They were made corrupt within and sickening to behold without and they grew sicker and sicker, yet could not die, their own constitution becoming their worst enemy. What they endured was unimaginable yet none suffered more than Mortarion. For the Primarch, it was as though he were upon the mountaintop of Barbarus once more, surrendering to the poison, without the mercy of unconsciousness to claim him or the Emperor to come to his salvation."

arctic talon
#

Typhus is such an asshole

topaz warren
#

I mean, you can't tell me the idea of a slow, consistent wave of rot and decay that will never stop isn't a good allegory for life.

real helm
arctic talon
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Mfw even in Imperium bolter porn stuff plague marines are horrifyingly durable

arctic talon
#

A lot of other people

topaz warren
#

Take a bolter clip to the dome and keep trucken.

arctic talon
topaz warren
#

Okay, but I bet Vulkan feels guilty about it.

arctic talon
#

Sorta

topaz warren
#

That's what makes the Salamanders my second favorites.

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The Salamanders care.

arctic talon
#

Sorta

topaz warren
#

They care more than the others.

arctic talon
#

Also sorta

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But eh

real helm
#

Is 1d4chan a good source for Lore?

arctic talon
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No

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Absolutely not lol

real helm
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Or is it better to stick with Lexicanum and the books

arctic talon
#

Stick with the books if you can

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But lexicanum isn’t terrible either

honest trellis
#

Lexicanum is a mediocre wiki, don't believe anything they write as confirmed canon unless you see it in a book

arctic talon
#

1d4chan has some accurate stuff in it

arctic talon
honest trellis
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They literally still have completely inaccurate info on Lexicanum for Horus's armor lol

arctic talon
#

All the 40k wikis sorta suck

honest trellis
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and refuse to correct it

arctic talon
#

Lexicanum straight up cites the wrong book

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For the Admech worshiping the Emperor as the Omnissiah

real helm
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Damn, books it is then. Thank you.

honest trellis
#

lolololol

arctic talon
#

It’ll be fine

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But try to check their sources

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If you can

honest trellis
#

Wikis are good for lazy or "sources that may be relevant"

arctic talon
#

What I’m saying is it could be worse

honest trellis
#

ironically 40k wiki is a mix of "literally plagiarism and accurate" and "completely inaccurate fanfic"

#

lexicanum is just third rate wiki nonsense with some lies

arctic talon
#

40k has no truly good wikis for lore

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Which sucks

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But w/e

real helm
#

So 1d4chan is greater than lexicanum?

arctic talon
#

No

real helm
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Damn

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You mean I sat through the same chaos spawn joke for paragraphs and paragraphs on end for nothing, this cant be true

arctic talon
brittle slate
uncut plover
# arctic talon No

Funny enough 1d4chan while it's info is a bit on the meme side, actually is more detailed compared to the actual wiki

arctic talon
#

thats decent unironically

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the best part of 1d4chan for Warhammer is prolly the tactics section

uncut plover
#

that is true

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The Death Guard became a favorite faction of mine if only because I love Mortarion's motivation to eradicate tyranny

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as hypocritical as it is in practice looking at him now

gritty cove
#

This may have been asked before but about what year is this game set in

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Or maybe what age is it set in, better question? Like, present day Imperium of Man?

dusk patrol
#

“Current day”

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Roughly

#

It’s post Cadia and during Indomitus by voicelines, we don’t kno the exact date

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But it’s “present” 40k

uncut plover
#

the 41st millenium

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that's all you need to know

rich vale
#

Ain't it a bit wonky since lorewise modern day is in the 42nd millennium now?

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I know there's some fuckery like "Well actually we don't know the exact year anymore" but that's just a cop out to still say 41st millennium no problem

north lotus
#

And because warp travel is a shit form of rapid message delivery

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Yes, there’s other methods

blazing lily
#

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, do they still have pizza or burgers?

north lotus
plush mason
#

grox burgers

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and rat

uncut plover
#

no

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all there is is corpse starch

plush mason
#

lmao

blazing lily
#

Lol, I just like to imagine in some parts of a hive city there are ramen and grox burger joints with neon signs😂 but made from corpse starch and grox meat

uncut plover
#

you eat that shit and be thankful to the God Emperor

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while the Chaos boys eat....sinful things like real meat

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cooked with lots of spices

north lotus
#

Corpse starch is at least processed and given vitamin supplements to at least be somewhat nourishing

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“Beware the fat man in a time of starvation”

blazing lily
#

My head cannon is that even thou the base ingredients for food in the imperium is super processed stuff, creative citizens find ways to make it more appetizing, unless you live on one of those really crappy worlds

north lotus
blazing lily
#

Then it’s probably illegal to modify rations because grimdark

blazing lily
north lotus
# blazing lily No🤔 do explain

Irl, back in the Soviet Union, during the early years of statin’s industrialization, they went abroad to study meat production. You see, the holodomor was going on at the time.

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The doctor’s sausage was their solution to malnutrition via a high quality baloney equivalent.

blazing lily
north lotus
blazing lily
#

Huh, interesting

north lotus
#

You see, authoritarian hell states tend to do better focusing around industrialized canned or processed foods over “fresh” ones

#

Anyways, fanficlore here, it’s a vallhalan favorite

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This is all to kinda show what I’d imagine corpse starch to be like

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If it’s high quality

echo vault
#

Is corpse starch white or a different color

uncut plover
#

grey

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if we looking at the warhammer animation

echo vault
#

Because ambull meat is like spam

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I think of it as dusty whiteish yellow

north lotus
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echo vault
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This marine pilot looks like he's a giant head wit limbs

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north lotus
celest dome
echo vault
north lotus
brittle slate
# echo vault It's a chaos marine

It’s just a chaos human. Read siege of vraks or gaunts ghosts. “Cultist” doesn’t do the chaos militaries justice since they have their own “navy” and “guard” that far outnumber marines.

#

Marines flying fighter craft is also just an awful waste of resources.

#

Not saying chaos space marines don’t or can’t fly aircraft*

echo vault
brittle slate
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I had one of these. They’re just humans or human scale:

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Forgeworld also like(Ed) doing images to other sci fi. They’re a kinda nod to cylons from battlestar galactica

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Their a little smaller than a guardsman

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But big heads

echo vault
#

Which model is the first image from, I know the second one is the hell talon

brittle slate
#

And they come in thousands and thousands.

echo vault
#

He's got his hands embedded in the ship

brittle slate
#

Hell blade

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They’re model description is chaos servitor but that must be wrong too since they have personalities and talk

echo vault
#

Ok thanks

acoustic prawn
#

Anyone can tell me what the "R" and lion body tattoos mean?

mystic geyser
#

Pic?

crisp heath
#

So , canonically , how is genestealers cult on terra?

#

I’m just thinking, if sharks gonna add genecult , then our boys gonna get more productive then golden boys , aight?

signal bramble
crisp heath
signal bramble
#

Yeah I know the one.

#

The box with the blade champion.

crisp heath
#

It’s storry last time I checked , ended at custodes finding “Grand Granpa” or however they called those big xeno shit ass

#

I’m just thinking , aren’t rejects work more productively then those custodes squad did in the events of a book?

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Or am I wrong ?

celest dome
#

Well for one we don't even know if there is a GSC on Atoma, second, there are plenty of planet which had GSC that managed to cull them

celest dome
#

If the Patriarch dies, the cult does so in most part

#

Also most cultist are as strong as the hive that they live in

signal bramble
signal bramble
#

There could be one on atoma, it’s possible.

crisp heath
signal bramble
#

But every GSC waits for their Day of Ascension where they can overthrow the planet. A single hive turning traitor isn’t necessarily enough to warrant them taking their shot.

crisp heath
#

Isn’t tercium an capital hive?

signal bramble
#

Even if it is that won’t be enough to destabilize an entire hive world.

#

Between the presence of the AM and the inquisition it seems better to lie low.

storm jungle
#

The Shadow Throne story also isn't wrapped up atm.

#

Its left up to the players who win the boxset game.

#

Im sure they will soldify the winner in the future but its not like another cult cant spring up in Terra anyway, its pretty easy lul

#

Well that and the Custodes fight an actual tide of Cultists with them taking losses along the way.

#

The rejects in comparison realistically fight concentrated groups instead of something this insane

signal bramble
#

It’s also difficult to convey through text just how big a hive city is. They can be seen from orbit and a single hive city can hold millions or even billions of people in some cases in just one.

Consider that a planet can have multiple hives and you’re looking at a single planet with significantly more people than we have on our planet right now.

celest dome
#

Isn't all of Terra a hive as of yet ? Hive/Fortress/Palace ?

storm jungle
#

The entire surface is a hive

#

the only "no build zone" is the outskirts of the Palace itself

#

where its actually properly fortified and defended

signal bramble
storm jungle
#

Yeah its the only planet in the setting that is an actual Hive-world

#

basically imagine your current spot in the world now

#

but put a flat deathstar ontop of it structure wise

#

A lot of our current-time stuff is buried under hives and a ton of other shit

topaz warren
#

It's also just 10s of billions of people.

#

Uncountable mass.

dusk patrol
#

Terra?

#

It has quadrillions of people

north lotus
#

At minimum.

barren tapir
brittle slate
#

Someone once broke down the Sol system based on 30k descriptions with a little 40k ones of Terra and extrapolated that the majority of humanity must be in the Sol system alone.

silk gyro
#

I just had a crazy thought

#

Kairos Fateweaver can actually see what the shop refresh/Melk refresh is going to be, he can see EVERY upcoming shop refresh, for the entire lifetime of Darktide! But - he can't actually buy anything from the shop when it does refresh, because he can't see it while it's there. Then, afterwards, he can see all the good shit in the shop that he missed. Truly a torturous existence... oh my god.

timid ferry
#

Terra is gothic Coruscant

north lotus
storm jungle
#

even more grimdarkk

silk gyro
dusk patrol
#

also claws do not translate well to controller or M+K

storm jungle
gritty cove
#

So if this game is in Indomitus then does that mean we might potentially see Necron's in Darktide?

mystic geyser
#

I mean necrons are active but it doesn't really make sense for them to just show up, and they would curb stomp the rejects.

#

Would be funny if Trazyn showed up and asked to have Morrow back again

storm jungle
#

I would very much like a boss fight where we fight a single scarab.

#

look at em goooo

gritty cove
#

I could still see potential in at least stumbling upon some Necro architecture or something like that

#

Some Necron details

silk gyro
celest dome
#

Would be very surprising

silk gyro
#

while fending off a horde

storm jungle
#

it would be a pretty cute boss fight

silk gyro
storm jungle
#

⚰️

frozen jewel
#

Similar to how there must be bee hive worlds to produce the imperium's vast supply of wax, are there cattle grazing worlds to produce the vast supplies of leather?

mystic geyser
#

Yes. (Though it's grox, probably )

barren tapir
#

Not cows, they use grox

frozen jewel
#

are cows extinct?

mystic geyser
#

It seems unlikely given the scale of the human diaspora, but I can't recall them ever being mentioned.

barren tapir
#

Probably not, probably they still are present on some imperium forgotten world, but they wouldn't be deemed optimal so either exploited to extintion or just killed and harvested to make place for grox

crisp heath
#

also just put a necron tomb under the city that just happens to wake up today

frozen jewel
#

I'm still holding out for the miniboss that's just a big pile of nurglings that gets smaller the more you shoot it

mystic geyser
#

Nurglings would be fun

#

Alas in Vermintide they were only critters, rather than proper enemies

real helm
storm jungle
vital kernel
#

How is there still no Warthunder/World of Tanks clone in the 40k universe yet?

tallarn.jpg
mystic geyser
#

Pretty sure they've done 40k skins for world of tanks

north lotus
celest dome
#

I would love a space dog fighter set in 40k

signal bramble
#

I want a melta gun so bad. Give my enemies the experience of smoking 10,000 cigarettes all at once.

celest dome
#

Of all the weapon from the insigna we're missing, it's the 3rd I'm waiting for

real helm
#

Or launcg fighters with your cruiser and zoom really far in and pretend you are flying them

signal bramble
#

I don't think we'll get any grav guns but that would be awesome to.

robust adder
#

I used to sell cannabi to heretics . they loved it and were calm , later imperium arrested me and now I'm a reject! Heretics went crazy , took over HIVE

celest dome
#

I have no affiliation to this Reject

celest dome
mystic geyser
celest dome
#

ty that was for me

#

so not much about GSC

#

but depravity could point toward Slaanesh

brittle slate
#

Giant… genetically modified super pigs but pigs nonetheless.

arctic talon
#

Now where that milk is from is up for questioning

celest dome
arctic talon
#

For vellum

#

There’s also some natural pigs on some worlds

#

They showed up in one book

brittle slate
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Horses obviously

arctic talon
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I’d assume some variation of cow still exists

brittle slate
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Yeah. Dogs, cats, rats

arctic talon
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Prolly as a beast of burden

unique berry
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I was surprised to know that cigarettes are still a thing in the 41M lol

arctic talon
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Since grox are uh

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Very very aggressive

celest dome
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REPTILE

arctic talon
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When aggravated

brittle slate
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Everything domesticated likely has stuck around in some perverted sense or another

arctic talon
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Yeah

arctic talon
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Except way stronger drugs in em lol

brittle slate
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Mostly uppers

arctic talon
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Guardsmen hitting the bong full of ground up combat stims before storming a position kekw

unique berry
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U gotta motivate yourself somehow lol

arctic talon
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But most things we have today still exist in 40k in some odd variation

unique berry
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Wait they still got Karens good lord

celest dome
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The Inquisition ?

astral whale
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I haven’t played in like 4 years but I remember the Demolisher being an absolute meme.

plush mason
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yeah both world of tanks and warships had 40k crossover events

near glade
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Question what are some differences between the Iron Hands and Red Talons?

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Like do the Talons have clan companies?

north lotus
near glade
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Yeah I get that the Talons are more unstable and brutal compared to the IHs even but is their organization different?

north lotus
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I mixed them up with the iron warriors for a sec, hence the edit.

north lotus
near glade
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Yeah dedicated anti marine chapter

north lotus
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But that’s most I can tell at the moment

upbeat dagger
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i know this is not the best place for this but are there any good 40k ttrpgs aside from rogue trader? I'm looking for something that doesn't focus on space marines, and has ground combat rules

north lotus
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I’m working through 1d4chan now, because fuck it.

upbeat dagger
north lotus
north lotus
upbeat dagger
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hm

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im interested in both dark heresy and rogue trader

north lotus
upbeat dagger
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might end up using dark heresy rules but i am gonna set this in a homebrew story

north lotus
upbeat dagger
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i like the rogue trader concept but the dark heresy playable options more

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like, my own story following 40k lore

mystic geyser
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Sounds cool

north lotus
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A quote from 1d4chan cited by tvtropes

“It has the best critical hit charts ever made. You don't even need the rest of the game (although it is all good, it's just a LOT). Just start a campaign, wing it, and whenever anyone gets a good hit, roll on the critical hit charts. Holy fucking hell, did boiling bone marrow just turn my femur into a frag grenade? Fuck.”

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It’s a creator of many great stories

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The all guardsman party is half a result of it and only war

upbeat dagger
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i really like the concept of rogue trader, the idea of going from place to place under a rogue trader, retrieving materials from planets, fighting xenos and heretics

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but i like the base options of what Dark Heresy has more imo

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so i might mishmash the two

north lotus
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Here’s what I recommend for reading on it

upbeat dagger
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rogue trader based story and concept, dark heresy system

north lotus
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1d4chan is a great website from a player’s perspective

upbeat dagger
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lmfaoo

north lotus
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You learn the important and nice information, though at the cost of having some groan inducing comedy

upbeat dagger
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how much freedom of character creation do you have

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as a baseline, i'm used to D&D 5e

north lotus
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REE

upbeat dagger
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im planning on switching to PF2e once my current games wrap up

north lotus
upbeat dagger
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anyway so

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hows the character customization

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in dark heresy

north lotus
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Well you check it out yourself

upbeat dagger
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seems like it has classes and skill trees

north lotus
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I have a rule when it comes to tabletop games:

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If I like it, I’ll pay for it if I want to keep it.

upbeat dagger
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oh that character sheet fucks

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I haven't paid for 5e because I really dont like wotc

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and pf2e is available free so

north lotus
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For separate reasons presumably from yours

upbeat dagger
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they're scummy

north lotus
# upbeat dagger they're scummy

Yes, and they’ve had sex offender problems in the past…as in sex offenders had potential contact to children through their MTG judge system in the past, and it took someone repeatedly pointing it out to get change to happen

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Anyways

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“Alternate take: The Rules of Not Dying Like an Idiot in the 41st Millenium

Always check the body. Or destroy it. Better yet, both.
Never turn your back on an opponent.
Three reloads for your main, minimum.
Wear armour, even if it's just reinforced clothing.
Geek the psyker first.
There is such thing as overkill, just not when daemons are involved.
Take care of your weapon.
Violence is usually a good answer, but not ALWAYS the best.
Mourn later, kill the bastards now.
Always try the mundane answer first. The Warp is not the answer to every problem, and is more often than not the cause of said problem. Psykers who get too full of their own magical purple bullshit die horribly, and probably take a few of his friends with him.
Grenades aren't just for killing. Cover destrution and area denial can be vital.
Be careful when going through doors, as enemies can either be watching the door, and/or are waiting on the other side.
ALWAYS have a sidearm. That includes you, CQC RapeBlender.
Save some space in your backpack. You never know.
When in doubt, fucking cheat. (in character)
Be unpredictable. To your enemies. No one likes a LOLRANDUMB fucktard on their team.
This list is subject to change without notice. Be flexible.
With the exception of Rules 1-3, feel free to disregard any and all rules if they for some reason impede your survival. BE FUCKING FLEXIBLE.”

upbeat dagger
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so i need a battlemap for this?

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no theatre of the mind here huh

north lotus
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If you are going to be fighting for certain, have a map. If not, don’t worry about it, but have a general layout.

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Remember, nowhere is safe in 40k, only degrees of danger… much like real life.

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If you’re on your ship and on the toilet in your cabin/quarters, you probably don’t need a map…for now.

north lotus
crisp heath
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If you can't find a group or have difficulty running it, Rogue Trader is getting a video game adaptation by the same company that made Kingmaker

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I've never had the chance to run Only War, but some of it was a bit confusing for what was at the time my tiny 5e brain

undone zodiac
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I was browsing the webpage of terminators and it came to my mind. Terminators arent part of 1st company in blood angels right?

barren tapir
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Damn, reading that list of rules remembered me of the all guardsmen party, and then of the fact that i have not a decent group of friends to play TTRPG with

north lotus
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Sorry for screwing up spelling, got a 30-40 pound dog begging for my attention and affection

barren tapir
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Screwing up spelling?

north lotus
north lotus
north lotus
crisp heath
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A yes, to have an all guardsmen party, you must gather all the guardsmen in a party, as you could say, the all guardsmen party is a result of the all guardsmen party

north lotus
fresh sun
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hey, im new to WH but i was wondering. are zealots able to achieve those miraculous things despite being regular humans because humans are slowly becoming more psychic and their fervent belief in the emperor and his glory makes them able to do these incredible things? (much like "red makes ships go fast" for orcs?)

signal bramble
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And it's red makes all things go faster, not just ships. XD

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Tbh when it comes to the whole belief achieving things that happens in 40k with the psyche of man able to influence reality, it's one of those things where it's never been exactly spelled out for us. It's just one of those things that works in whatever way the author needs it to so the story can happen.

fresh sun
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ah, the indominable spirit of man

north lotus
fresh sun
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good for zealots though, being useful and stuff! and thanks! hard to know what is in universe fact and what could just be gameplay

arctic talon
north lotus
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Faith can be like that IRL

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granted not to the degree in universe

signal bramble
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Or in that trailer where the sister of battle uses the power of faith to extinguish necron gauss energy.

fresh sun
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ah i understand, its dynamis 😌

north lotus
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To a extent belief plays a role, but additionally survivor’s bias might also play one

signal bramble
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It's more like... plot armor. >_>;

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I play FFXIV so I know what you mean. :p

arctic talon
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Lol

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Yeah faith is pretty much explained plot armor

north lotus
arctic talon
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But it’s pre established so it usually is less of a cop out

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Bcs 99% of the time it makes sense

north lotus
arctic talon
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lol

north lotus
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Or high explosives

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Lots of high explosives

arctic talon
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Violence is not the answer it is the question and the answer is YES

fresh sun
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i do like the faith/strength of will thing as a trope

arctic talon
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Tbh literal magic is present

north lotus
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Violence is a tool of controlled, restrained, force.

arctic talon
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The indomitable will of someone becoming manifest makes sense

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Or rather many people

north lotus
arctic talon
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Lol

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but in terms of bullshit powers faith is like low tier in 40k lol

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psykers can pull off more devastating attacks or actions

cinder venture
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Personally, I think that the Emperor isn't quite dead, but is instead a fairly distributed presence, and people of strong will/faith can concentrate the local presence. People like Celestine are close to the equivalent of Daemons, but using the Emperor as their source, rather than one of the chaos gods

arctic talon
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The Emperor is straight up confirmed to not be dead

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G-man talked with him

cinder venture
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Ah, so they finally got the TTS working?

arctic talon
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no

cinder venture
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/j

arctic talon
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it was a really weird psychic conversation

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and it pretty much boils down to The Emperor Guilliman knew is completely different from whatever is sitting on the throne now

cinder venture
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Can't imagine why 🙃

north lotus
# north lotus I’m messing up the quote

This is a different one from the one I was going for, but it will work.

Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms

upbeat dagger
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@north lotus sorry to bother, few more questions- im at work and was off my break

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1: does dark heresy rely on extremely strictly balanced weapons like 5e? or is there room for a little customization

north lotus
north lotus
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If you can, get a lasgun

upbeat dagger
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i'm the dm here

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at least i would be

north lotus
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There’s a list of weapons, and it’s not really “archetypes” but more specific types of weapons.

upbeat dagger
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ex: at one point i wanted to give the players the option to forge semi-custom (modification of a base pattern) weapons at a foundry with enough resources

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would that be reasonable?

north lotus
upbeat dagger
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ok

north lotus
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Like say your weapon is reliable, or unreliable, For example

upbeat dagger
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also are lasguns infinite ammo im guessing?

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or are they balanced like dtide where they're just extremely efficient

north lotus
upbeat dagger
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does the campfire thing work

north lotus
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No clue,

upbeat dagger
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lmao

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idk how your even supposed to recharge a power pak off of a campfire

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tbh if your camping somewhere with a campfire in 40k your fucked anyways so

signal bramble
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Hellguns for example consume more energy charge for a more powerful shot.

north lotus
signal bramble
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Lasguns usually also have power settings from semi-auto to full auto which will consume charges at different rates.

upbeat dagger
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aight

north lotus
upbeat dagger
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also im guessing melee isnt exactly efficient here

ivory crow
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so guys do you think they will add Slanessh to dark tide? I want to Chain sword 3 tittied dregs