#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
brittle slate
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like all the kasrkin know what's going on in the galaxy

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they even use different vernacular like as "expensive as custodes armor" you know?

signal bramble
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I wanted the elite kasrkin facing off against elite kroot and pathfinders across the desert planet in a hit and run. Instead we got Not-Dune with the Not-Fremen exporting Not-Melange and then necrons show up.

brittle slate
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very familiar and not vague like how 40k novels usually are

brittle slate
signal bramble
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Same

brittle slate
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the kroot lore expansion was awesome

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i don't think it needed a twist

signal bramble
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Plus the necron overlord was actually really fun and interesting, he would have been better with his own book.

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But yeah, I call that planet "Not-Dune" because it clearly is but it's not called that.

brittle slate
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lol

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Have there been any none- “fallen” obsessed dark angel books for 40k recently?

arctic talon
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No

signal bramble
arctic talon
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Because beating a dead horse is funny

slate rock
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need moar black templur

arctic talon
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A book on Luther

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Classifies as fallen related imo

slate rock
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scratch that

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Need moar lamenter stuff

signal bramble
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The luther book is april 2021? So that's "recent" I suppose.

dusk patrol
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Although its almost 10 years old now but relatively recent.

echo vault
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What are the fallen doing anyway

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Luther is free (I think) although he probably looks like a lanky 10 foot old man

signal bramble
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Though supposedly someone is gathering them specificlaly.

echo vault
signal bramble
echo vault
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There's a couple

dusk patrol
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Zahriel I think is one

echo vault
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I almost said corswain but obviously no

dusk patrol
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Actually I'm not sure if its Zaherial

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Its one of the OGs of the OGs

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Astelan

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That’s the one

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Predates the Lion

echo vault
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Since they haven't been living in the warp are they still the same strength or do they get weaker

dusk patrol
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They’re not consistent

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When Caliban blew up it threw them through time

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So some have been around for 10,000 years and are corrupted to hell, some just popped in and are borderline still loyalist

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And everything inbetween

worthy tendon
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I have a question.
GSCs are for the most part human...ish, yes? So they have the intelligence to read... to be corrupted by Nurgle. So if - for example - an entire GSC (including it's Patriarch) was corrupted by Nurgle - and they then are re-connected to the Synapse-Creatures of the Swarm (once the Hivefleet arrives) could that hive-fleet become corrupted as well? Or does the Shadow in the Warp protect them?

final solar
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I don’t think there’s a single instance of tyranid creatures being corrupted

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Makes me wonder if second generation onward GSC broods even have souls

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I mean, they technically aren’t human

worthy tendon
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Does a GSC Patriarch have a soul?

final solar
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The patriarch will kidnap people and forcibly impregnate them to spawn the first generation

atomic pelican
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Not sure abt patriarchs but cultists do

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No, they dont.

final solar
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So on and on

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Really? Am i mistaking old lore for new?

atomic pelican
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Thats never been lore

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Theyve always infected Contagii, it is not sexual

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Its being stuck in the throat by a parasite which lodges somewhere in your abdomen and infects the Contagii

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The Contagii then make the first generation

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Also yeah, theres been a cult that was chaos corrupted once

clever steppe
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So like

atomic pelican
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It was wholly subsumed into the warp and nurgle corrupted

clever steppe
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Where does human waste go in 40k

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I don’t see any bathrooms

worthy tendon
atomic pelican
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Probably not

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GSC may be corruptible. But its ultimately because they are still human, having souls and personality

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Tyranids themselves are likely incorruptible

signal bramble
clever steppe
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I figured

worthy tendon
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Hm... if warp corruption requires a soul, then what's the point of scrap code?

atomic pelican
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Because machines have pseudo souls

signal bramble
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Machine spirit corruption.

worthy tendon
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Hm, is the Hivemind a soul of sorts? 😄

clever steppe
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But like on the frontlines of a conflict do they have the ye old hole in the ground system or is it the same as hive worlds and presumably ships

signal bramble
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I also wouldn’t read too much in to it. To put bluntly, machine spirits do whatever the author wants.

signal bramble
atomic pelican
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Not as we know it. Its Different™️

signal bramble
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The shadow of the warp also blocks warp stuff.

atomic pelican
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Sometimes literally a person who has been bonded to a ship/machine as an intelligence

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Othertimes a mystical force

worthy tendon
signal bramble
worthy tendon
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Do Orks have souls?

signal bramble
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In dark imperium, some corrupted water that was putrid sludge gets cut off from the warp stuff and turns back in to pure clean water.

signal bramble
worthy tendon
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I know the Tau have... but since their souls are so weak the Chaos gods generally treat them as if they had none

signal bramble
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Orks do have souls but their faith in their own gods doesn’t leave room for others. Presumably they wouldn’t worship the Chaos gods for the most part. Nurgle’s corruption (meaning diseases) can really tag anyone tbh.

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But warp corruption and all that stuff is dependent on the author. Warp shenanigans does whatever the author wants it to. :/

rustic spruce
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Functionality wise how does votaan power armor differ from the imperiums power armor

signal bramble
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They’re also specifically made to function as space suit, battle armor, and laborer armor all at once.

barren tapir
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The exo armour used by the Kin is assimilable to terminator armour, but only the Einhyr use them

devout oxide
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do the kin plug into their armor the way marines do?

signal bramble
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You can see them on the repentia models.

IMG_9400.png
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I assume the Votann have similar ports.

devout oxide
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I know sob have them, just never seen/heard them on LOV. If it’s stc based though I 100% agree they should

rapid trellis
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How do space marines raise their hands O_O? I always thought their armor is cool but those shoulderpads man. Seems like you just have to be above them and youll be okay

timid ferry
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Heh, if you think normal marine armor is bad, get a load of this

rose thorn
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terminator mark 1s

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and or the vulkan terminators!

dusk patrol
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Yeah technically not Saturnine

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But tbh at this point

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Might as well be

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Since we don’t know what Saturnine looked like I don’t think so

timid ferry
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Yep, my drunk brain didn’t check the source before posting that wiki

dusk patrol
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At this point I’d just expect GW to release a model which officially calls it Saturnine

timid ferry
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I find it funny how the guy in the second rank cannot possibly lift his arm to swing his chainsword

ruby sparrow
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Marines lack srip

rustic spruce
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storm jungle
rustic spruce
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why did the chaos dwarves throw their lot in with the god that turns you into bulls

dusk patrol
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Because they’re dicks

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But in seriousness basically they got caught in a shit position when chaos came into the world and ended up being corrupted because they turned to Hashut

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And he twisted and corrupted them into what they became

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Dwarves are still extremely resistance and their bodies reject chaos so that’s why the curse of stone exists and why the chaos dwarves aren’t super mutated by chaos

storm jungle
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Yeah they literally have to CARVE RUNES to their bodies to be like:

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"OI, I NEED SOME CHAOS BOOSTS, HELLO? ANYONE?"

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and even then its super gradual

crisp heath
brittle slate
brittle slate
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Back in the day you effectively become anspecimen of your species

atomic pelican
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Not sure, Contagii aren't really covered too much

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Also GSC lore is like

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the codex and 2 books

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One of which isnt rlly a GSC book so

brittle slate
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Yeah, just jump backward then

atomic pelican
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Contagii aren't too relevant since they're a very, very, very, very small minority of GSC members. But from the few contagii in the books that show up, they don't seem especially powerful

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Just regular humans p much, same as 4th gen neophytes

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They're slightly more durable because xenohybrid metabolism + can organize better since the Broodmind but other than that just normal humans essentially

brittle slate
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Hm. That sucks.

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There’s a lot of cool short stories with GSC

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One is from the perspective of basically an aberrant

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The contagii are supposed to become a little bit “plus” so as to better attract a mate

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I think they might have dropped it because of the sexual element

tulip sand
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Gsc?

green drum
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is it true that Khorne worshippers are in an endless contest to see who can have the biggest, least practical headwear?

brittle slate
tulip sand
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Gotcha

median viper
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Buddy just told me he was listening to 40K lore intro videos last night.

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He heard about the history of humanity, and that of Chaos.

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Fell asleep during the video about the Eldar.

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Words can't describe the pride I feel.

signal bramble
crimson tapir
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So the god emperor

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Do you think he could be some sort of chaos god? Powered by order?

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It’s the whole nobody ever seeing him the same way and no recorded texts or his appearance being true that makes me wonder

celest dome
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Not anything close in power to any of the Chaos Gods

compact hollow
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So who is the best primarch and why is it Gulliman

compact hollow
earnest snow
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More so powered by the Imperium, and isn't entirely weak. What I mean is: The Chaos Gods are 100% more powerful than him, but he isn't weak enough to just be stamped out especially by the Indomitus Crusade

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With 10k years of emotion that worship creates, he has to be a god. I don't see how he couldn't be. He isn't a Chaos God level though.

compact hollow
earnest snow
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A. The Gods have been around longer, and B. The Eldar are more psychic in general so you kinda have that going for Slaanesh. If Humanity were just as psychically advanced as the Eldar then the Chaos Gods would have far more issues than some perma damage to a manse

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I just hope GW hurries the hell up and gives us Imperium-aligned demons more

brittle slate
brittle slate
brittle slate
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like legion of the damned

earnest snow
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Give us more. I want an Agri-Worlder become empowered and become the Saint of Harvesting Season

brittle slate
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i mean, there's no reason why that couldn't happen

celest dome
earnest snow
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I know saints and what not exist, I just want more to happen considering what Abaddon had his Crusade do to Cadia

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This is the perfect time to get creative with the warp on both sides

brittle slate
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no doubt. I do think what they're currently doing is kind of lame

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a god for everyone is... fantasy

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and differing Faith from Warp is dumb, especially now that kelly wants tau to have it too

earnest snow
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Faith can create emotion that creates stuff in the warp. Thats always been my understanding. Its not faith itself, its the emotion caused from it. Which is why Big E was wrong about the whole religion part.

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At least partially.

solar canopy
earnest snow
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The Tau have a religion is...idk? I've always wanted them to push for more alien diversity because they're supposed to be a conglomerate of aliens

compact hollow
vital kernel
dusk patrol
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Also Perturabo is about as far from a Chad as you can get

celest dome
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Perti was the worst

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Most uncaring of them all

dusk patrol
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The Lion also fucked a lot of stuff up and the Khan had a massive part of his legion fall too

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I like them both but they had major issues

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And the Khan would not have been able to do nor probably wanted to do what Guilliman did after he got awoken

celest dome
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Of the Chaos Primarch, the one I miss the most is Omegon (Still alive) and Mortarion

dusk patrol
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And I don’t think any of the other primarchs except maybe Dorn and the Lion could have done what Guilliman did

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Given the same basic circumstances

celest dome
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Russ ?

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No Corvus

dusk patrol
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Russ was never a big picture guy

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Corvus was the same in that respect

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They couldn’t plan campaigns like Guilliman can

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Or politic like he can

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They’re better fighters and leaders in some aspects

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But his value is basically completely in his ability to direct an empire

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Russ and Corax would still be really useful especially for leading sections

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But Guilliman is the one who can lead an Empire

manic sierra
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Ok but when the lion coming back

celest dome
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When his alarm clock ring

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And he doesn't hit snooze

mystic geyser
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This was at a time 40k was very much still Warhammer Fantasy in space: Ogryn were space Ogres, but slightly more lovable.

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Original lore for Ogryns

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Ogryns in imperial service: where Ogryns drive convertible Rhinos (really!)

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proud mango
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So, what's the deal with the Black Templars and the Word Bearers? Didn't the God-Emperor expressly forbid his worship as a god? Isn't it what lead to the fall of the Word Bearers? Why aren't the Black Templars seen as heretics? I used to collect them back when they were worshipping the God-Emperor as the ultimate chad rather than the ultimate god (perhaps this is a fine line lol). I get that since the Templars are so spread out that deviants are possible to grow, but wouldn't the Templars have purged this heresy from their ranks? Feels like the WB got a bad deal for the same schtick the BT are upto.

mystic geyser
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Timing mainly

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Word Bearers tried it when He was still active.

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Black Templars waited until he was on the Throne. And then when it became the State religion the taboo went away.

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But it was the Lectitio Divinitatus that Lorgar wrote that inspired Sigismund.

proud mango
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seems like that's some shaky ground to found a chapter on

mystic geyser
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Um, I Don't think it's covered particularly much in the Sigismund book IIRC, more of a slow build up during the heresy novels, Dorn effectively disowns him at one point.. then during the Seige things step up a notch.

proud mango
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Ah right, thanks 🙂

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Makes me think a WB/BT book is there for the making

mystic geyser
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Yeah. The Black Legion find it Hilarious when they find out about the Templars

proud mango
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I can imagine

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Especially being sons of by-the-book Dorn

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though I guess their fall to Chaos is more due to Lorgar being weak minded and wanting to fall out of spite, whereas Sigismund is the opposite

mystic geyser
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Kinda. Lorgar would say he's motivated by finding the truth, and Sigismund is deluded. Which is true.. but Lorgar is also a weak minded fool so.. ha

proud mango
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😄

quick patrol
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Lore squad assemble!

Can the Imperium of man build Voidships (I know they can repair them to some extend) or is the number finite?

spark relic
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Yes they can build them

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Some of the largest and most powerful designs like the Gloriana class cannot be built anymore but most classes can still be produced and new ones are invented all the time

weak fossil
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2/11

spice pagoda
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I have a dumb question...
Why is it in most (if not all) of the 40K games I have seen its usually only Nurgle and Khorne stuff that we fight?
Do you lore gurus think it possible for us to see some followers of Tzeentch and Slaanesh some day or is that inaccurate?

weak fossil
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Slaanesh is the god of torturing people and enjoying the feelings coming from your naughty bits. If it was just brutally torturing people, the ESRB would probably be OK, but if you show a hint of areola, you're automatically an R rated game, so that's out.

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Hence, war god and plague god. Given the politicisation of medical response to pandemics in the last couple of years, expect it to be restricted to khorne soon, I guess.

spark relic
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Slaanesh is the God of emotion, specifically an excess of it

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Any emotion will do

spice pagoda
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Well that makes sense @weak fossil
Wish it wasn't so hard but yeah your answer is great thank you very much.

weak fossil
spice pagoda
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I tried one of the Total War titles but I could not get into it. I think I am mostly just curious to see what kind of cool enemies and mechanics they come up with for this type of game with other Chaos Gods. Specifically the look and design but I did forget how touchy people get with fantasy nips and such...so yeah.
I really do hope Khorne baddies makes an appearance in Darktide. We will be dying allot but I would love that.
My first mission in DT we fought that massive slug thing with the yellow bubble on it's back and it ate me! I was hooked after that occurrence. XD

timid ferry
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Almost 2 decades ago

shadow plover
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rome was amazing but honestly the warhammer titles have been really really good

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especially now with all three are available in a single map

celest dome
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Like Nurgle is often just Zombies

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And Khorne is close to Doom games and such

lilac wave
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It's certainly a bit harder to picture huge hordes of tzeench of slaanesh cultists running at you.

I guess tzeench is a patron of mutants, and could maybe convert a load of hivers just by unleashing some super volatile mutagen.

celest dome
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You can also have select Psyker who control thralls like puppets, kinda like Vilitch in fantasy

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As for Slaanesh, apart from Drugs, not much to be done

lilac wave
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I guess like, mind controlling pheromones or perfumes wouldn't be out of line for slaanesh stuff

signal bramble
amber nest
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Okay I have maybe a bit of a dumb question. Obviously your guardsmen and space marines are pretty devout believers. But how much does your average citizen really care? Are they just as fanatical ir is more "yeah yeah, praise be, bla bla"

timid ferry
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Or you could have a noise marine DJ

shadow plover
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your average space marine usually isn't that devout actually, when it comes to your average citizen they're often more or less pretty heavily into it

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but not all of course

signal bramble
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Keep in mind they are bombarded constantly from birth with the imperial faith, poorly educated in general, and indoctrinated every moment of their lives.

amber nest
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Oh yeah that is a fair point. Guess the constant threat of a bolt to the head also helps

signal bramble
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It’s very difficult to convey through words just how intertwined imperial life and the emperor truly are.

timid ferry
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Even if you aren’t a fanatical loon, you either pretend to be or keep your head down

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Imagine an entire society where people look at you funny automatically assume you a heretic if you don’t go to church

signal bramble
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In the inquisitor Crowl books they also comment that because the average imperial pleb is so fanatical and poorly educated that their faith could be very easily be turned. So it’s up to their betters to keep them in line at all times.

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“Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.”

“An open mind is like a fortress with its gates open.”

barren tapir
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Crowl? Isn't he the inquisitor that tried to order a custodes showing his inquisitor rosette?

undone zodiac
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Are space marine chapters still demanded to be 1000 men only?

shadow plover
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unless they're on a crusade

signal bramble
signal bramble
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Gman is also rewriting the codex Astartes.

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So it’s a bit more ambiguous now.

undone zodiac
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Templars taking added 3000 primaris

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I await more blood ravens lore but im afraid dow 3 might have lessened the chances

proud mango
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i read somewhere the black templars are codex compliant now

undone zodiac
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Templar lore is really inconsistent

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It has flung on both sides

timid ferry
undone zodiac
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Including their view on emperor

proud mango
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i liked it back when they were sticking it to the gman 😛

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it probably spoilers but i dont get how the whole primaris thing was okay'ed by gman, would have thought he'd have seen it as heresy

undone zodiac
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Templars mostly have payed lip service to codex

proud mango
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it'll probably never happen, but i do think this whole situation with the chaos rift is a great excuse for them to have that one big crusade where they all get together and wrestle abaddon or something

shadow plover
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also never ending crusade is a loophole they use to exceed the 1000 men limit

undone zodiac
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I belive chance of them being compliant is simply issue of multiple black library authors messing with them

proud mango
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yeah probably

signal bramble
undone zodiac
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It happens bit too much

proud mango
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like his actions could be grounds for a HH 2.0

signal bramble
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Indeed but he’s silenced the doubters at this point.

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Most of them anyway.

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There are quite a few that are still against him or suspicious of him.

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The custodes particularly.

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The custodes don’t trust him, several power individuals don’t like what he’s doing, and a few others.

proud mango
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yeah, i mean they're essentially the praetorian guard so like surely they'd want to have their say in who becomes regent (I havent read all the HH) but it seems like Gman just decides he is and everyone goes along with it

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i personally dont understand how Dorn wasnt defacto regent considering he has the emperor in his hands

mystic geyser
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Iirc the Grey Knights have ditched him too

signal bramble
barren tapir
barren tapir
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Then we also have Cawl kinda getting approval from big E too

storm jungle
# proud mango like his actions could be grounds for a HH 2.0

Theres actually an active plot-thread about this in the current events, the knowledge of Imperium Secundus (aka the time Guilliman founded a new Imperium in Ultramar with Sanguinius as the new Emperor after thinking the current one had been destroyed by the traitor forces) might get out and people will think he was actually a usurper when that was never the case.

undone zodiac
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My favourite part of rowboat gorillaman is when calgar goes soyjak when je is taking his equipment back

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"Noo you cant just take relics of the chapter"

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"What fucking relics these are my tools"

shadow plover
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I've not heard that

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what relics did he take back

proud mango
proud mango
storm jungle
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Nope recent

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the uh, Dawn of Fire stuff

proud mango
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oh cool

barren tapir
storm jungle
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I'd suggest googling Shaskais-warhambits on google/reddit, he does a good summary of the books

proud mango
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thanks will do!

storm jungle
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🙏 No worries

shadow plover
barren tapir
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Nope

shadow plover
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ah

undone zodiac
signal bramble
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Gman feels bad but nothing happens.

storm jungle
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theres still the risk of it going public/to the other parts of the Imperium

undone zodiac
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Appereantly reboot gigabyte bedroom was place of veneration

shadow plover
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I remember something like that from some of the novels, but didn't recall any instances where he would've taken something from Calgar

undone zodiac
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Not from calgar no

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Guilliman Just took stuff from his own room

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And calgar got anxious

storm jungle
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Like on one hand its fair

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but on the other hand, you know

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this is my stuff

brittle slate
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Made the imperium feel Byzantine and ancient and ignorant

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It’s why I think the return has been completely mishandled

forest shadow
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The Watchers of the Throne books also have good scenes and information regarding the return of Guilliman

brittle slate
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Because everyone basically just got in line, talked down or determined “the imperium couldn’t afford another conflict”.

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Another imperial civil war/strife would have been perfect for both the narrative and tabletop

forest shadow
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Terra did have a civil war over his return

brittle slate
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Eh. Concluded in, what, a chapter?

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The High Lords he deemed problematic should have escaped and rallied people against this “usurper”

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Especially when you consider that he’s an abomination of eldar necromancy and forbidden/unknown tech

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It was all there.

forest shadow
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I think with the Octarius War a galaxy wide Imperial civil war would have just meant the end of the Empire

brittle slate
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But, 40k needs a good guy so…

forest shadow
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But tbh I was content letting Primarchs stay in history

brittle slate
forest shadow
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Because now I just want Sanguinius back

brittle slate
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And everyone else

forest shadow
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Yup

brittle slate
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I’m hoping for the Lion

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And the Kahn

forest shadow
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I'm guessing the Lion is the other one

brittle slate
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And I feel like any smaller stories about regular space marines are kinda “meh”

forest shadow
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Because he will likely tell Guilliman to fuck off

brittle slate
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Nah- I have a feeling more and more they’ll “be fine”

forest shadow
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Since he refuses to serve another Warmaster or Regent

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He'll do his own thing

brittle slate
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The imperial fandom is on a noblebright kick right now and it’s unlikely to darken

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At least from my perspective

forest shadow
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They made the Tau more sinister which was nice

brittle slate
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Eh. It could have been done better

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Didn’t need to be a repeat of the horus heresy

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Which didn’t make any sense at all since the tau have known about daemons for thousands of years

forest shadow
#

My only Tau knowledge is from codexes, the Farsight book, and Ciaphus Cain ngl

brittle slate
#

If you wanted to grimdark tau: make them do something that was “for the greater good” at the cost of ____. Instead they’ve swung back to just expanding (and using diplomacy to do it) so the sinister thing feels flip floppy

brittle slate
#

Like, his tau don’t have FTL travel

#

Tau are vat grown

#

Shadowsun is from Vior’la like Farsight and they were in a thruple with Kais

forest shadow
#

My understanding was the Tau don't utilize the warp like the Imperium and have some short jump drive tech

brittle slate
#

They basically have what the LoV have

#

“Skipping” off the warp in short controlled translations without fear of being attacked by daemons or lost in the warp tides

forest shadow
#

I assumed they would develop their FTL tech from the stolen tech and drive from the Space Marine/Mechanicus ship(s) they looted

brittle slate
#

Otherwise they could have never had an interstellar empire

forest shadow
#

True

brittle slate
#

Their little star cluster of space is 300light years across. Even going the speed of relative light it would have taken many thousands of years to do anything meaningful.

forest shadow
#

I have mostly read stuff on the Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Custodes/Sisters of Silence, Krieg/Cadia, and the Necrons

#

My knowledge of everything else is from Youtube lore like Luetin

#

I'm reading more on the Mechanicus now

brittle slate
#

As much as Luetin is a source. If you get into xenos lore I would recommend the wiki’s before YouTubers. Otherwise at least go to the ones who focus on xenos

#

And definitely use community discords to dialogue. There is so much 40k lore that you need to talk it through so you know why there are different schools of thought regarding just about everything

#

Although- the most recent developments (basically the horus heresy series) has been having a streamlining effect on the lore. Which is unfortunate imo

#

As an example: The emperor used to have multiple origin stories but since Master of Mankind it’s effectively just the perpetual storyline.

forest shadow
#

I really don't like the perpetual stuff

#

It makes Vulkan seem not as cool

storm jungle
#

Have you seen his latest fight with Magnus

#

Magnus kills him like 20 times but Vulkan respawns repeatedly like its Call of Duty™️ and never stops attacking him, its so bad KEK

brittle slate
#

Yeah… I don’t like the perpetual thing at all

signal bramble
brittle slate
#

The “descent” into madness I think was better then the “always sinister”

celest dome
brittle slate
signal bramble
#

Vulkan also jumped down to a planet from orbit iirc.

celest dome
#

I'm asking about Magnus killing him

#

I know he is a Perpetual

storm jungle
#

ECHOES OF ETERNITY

#

LOOK IT UP

forest shadow
#

I want a sequel to Flesh and Steel

signal bramble
arctic talon
signal bramble
#

I love the warhammer crime series and the way they wrote varangantua and focused on the world building was very immersive.

arctic talon
forest shadow
#

Yeah I loved Bloodlines and Flesh & Steel

signal bramble
#

It’s some of the best written warhammer stuff in my opinion.

arctic talon
#

They just sorta ended up with the more sinister undertones faster

#

Warhammer crime is great

celest dome
arctic talon
#

Give us somthing like warhammer crime for like

brittle slate
arctic talon
#

Every faction

arctic talon
celest dome
#

Still think that Nurglite Vulkan would have been extremely fun

brittle slate
celest dome
#

Alternate Heresy and stuff

brittle slate
#

I would love “life on a craftworld”

brittle slate
plush mason
celest dome
#

If only there were widespread Warhammer animations (Warhammer+ doesn't count)

brittle slate
arctic talon
#

I forgot the name

#

But I read an exerpt from it a while back lol

brittle slate
#

Sodaz does halo animations now. Lost legion is trapped and moving to their own IP. Sayama is the same. Richard boylan lost his team and just works for GW. Kharos is gone.

arctic talon
#

Tbf the community has itself to blame for sodaz

#

Other ones yeah

#

Sucks

brittle slate
arctic talon
#

No the community sent him death threats lol

celest dome
#

He got death threats

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

He got an offer from GW

celest dome
#

The community is fully to blame

arctic talon
#

Said he was gona deny it on a YouTube community post

celest dome
#

No reason to deny it

arctic talon
#

And got sent a fuck ton of death threats and unwarranted shit

brittle slate
#

I don’t believe I ever saw any. I asked him to show them once and we had a falling out

arctic talon
#

That’s what he’s said pubically at least

#

If that can be proven wrong then yeah

#

Rip

brittle slate
#

It can’t because of NDA’s ect. But GW did offer him a budget at the same time as Exodite got taken down and he wouldn’t budge on his numbers

arctic talon
#

👍

brittle slate
#

Which, I applaud him for because he’s free to be creative and do his thing. I just wish he hadn’t blamed the community

#

We already cannibalize ourselves enough

celest dome
#

I mean, I'm not surprised there are people in the wrhammer community that would send death threats and stuff

arctic talon
#

No shit lol

#

This community has its own containment board on 4chan lol

celest dome
#

And he might not even be allowed to put them in public, if he went to the police and stuff

#

My fav publication from GW is still them saying they don't want hate groups in their fans, and that those can get the f# out

brittle slate
#

i saw a ton get sent to astartes guy

brittle slate
#

i know one pos who actually left the hobby because of that (only to create a different discord profile to continue shitposting) but a win is a win

celest dome
#

Official words from Sodaz
"I'm talking about the rumors that have been going around the internet about me lately.
After I wrote to the Korean community I got a reply from GW a few days ago.
They want to keep working with me. They said that the reply was delayed due to circumstances.
But I am not going to work with them. Not because of the very slow feedback, but for other reasons.
During that time, I was attacked by so many people, and it was so painful. Even on other projects, they continued to harass. I was gradually losing interest in the animation itself, and I was almost at the limit.
I don't want to worry about anything else anymore in a situation where this current work could be the last.
Finally, please. Please don't comment on Warhammer."

#

While it doesn't explicitely say death threat, its still quite grave

brittle slate
#

It should be pretty easy to see negative comments or attacks on his channel/videos and, again just from my perspective, I never saw them

#

i've only ever seen big love for sodaz's work

#

(i'm not trying to be contentious or anything, just speaking from my own experience)

dusk patrol
#

At the time there was a really annoying facet of the community who was really pissed at everything to do with GW

crisp heath
#

Just listened too the fan story Gav and Bob 😪

brittle slate
crisp heath
#

No, Smith and Ogryn story

brittle slate
#

ah

crisp heath
#

An*

#

Great listen/read and really touching

brittle slate
crisp heath
echo vault
#

A lot of the alternative heresy especially the dornian heresy have really meh parts to them, like some elements of the idea are so good while other parts suck ass. I could write a whole video on it

gusty sequoia
#

were ogryn home world

celest dome
#

There are a few Ogryn centric world, other wise they live among the normal humans

#

So 2 new Mercs were shown for Necromunda, and one is named by a collar she had when she was found in an orphanagium, any idea what it is ? _EST_SU_JE_T

barren tapir
#

Test subject

#

But which test?

brittle slate
#

or link?

mystic geyser
brittle slate
#

hm

#

_EST _ SU_JE_T

dusk patrol
celest dome
#

Think we know 3 named ones, gotta check though, don't know it by heart

brittle slate
#

Taros is one or at least has a population big enough to sustain the mining operation

celest dome
#

Krourk and Mongolr

#

Monglor

mystic geyser
#

Anark Zeta
Skraag (Beta Entebes III)
Uglobb (Drano IV)
Orcus
Othion

celest dome
#

Isn't Anark Zeta just a normal world who raise Ogryn regiment ?

#

Like plenty of other worlds

#

Like Necromunda has Ogryn living on it

scenic sun
#

Aren't ogryns mostly used as cattel/slaves, or left to their own feral worlds where they basically function like feral orks?

#

Damm

plush mason
#

i mean. everyone in the imperium save those at the very top is a chattel slave

tired umbra
#

Ogryns get abused and used like hell in the Imperium yeah. But that goes for most people anyway

dusk patrol
#

Generally the ones who get to work in the guard have it the best

#

But it varies

#

Also, and obviously we see this in the game, not all are the wholesome protective nice Ogryn

#

Plenty of asshole Ogryn

tired umbra
#

I mean the Bully voice for the ogryn is pretty fucking vicious. He ain't nice AT ALL

rustic spruce
#

he's a real bully

storm jungle
#

hes literally a Fantasy Ogre

#

its great

crimson dragon
#

Are there new cosmetics

#

I haven't played in a week

storm jungle
#

Wrong channel

crimson dragon
#

oof

storm jungle
#

😔

signal bramble
signal bramble
crimson dragon
signal bramble
#

I think he’s an ork in disguise.

storm jungle
gusty sequoia
#

What good book about ASTRO military

#

Man I felt like ogryn when I say it

celest dome
#

Astra

#

And Gaunt's Ghost

#

Yarricks books (Forgot the name

gusty sequoia
#

Why did they change the name imperial guard was batter and easy to say

dusk patrol
#

Copyright

#

But I like it tbh

#

It’s not like they don’t use the guard still

#

It fits for like, official stuff

sudden kelp
#

Re the video-- what does throneside mean? I havent come across the term. Ghost Gaunt books are great (re hello world)

pearl zealot
#

Why is it the year 40k but most weapons feel 2k

solar canopy
celest dome
#

Basically the Middlehive

noble hinge
#

how did ogryns end up on atoma prime?

dusk patrol
#

Same way they end up everywhere

#

They’re used all across the Imperium

#

For slave labor, enforcers, guard, and so on

noble hinge
#

ah ok

#

i thought they were rare

atomic lodge
#

They are

dusk patrol
#

Nope

celest dome
#

They are not that many

dusk patrol
#

One of the most common Abhumans

celest dome
#

But they aren't rare

atomic lodge
#

But, y’know, degrees of rarity

celest dome
#

Sure, but they aren't rare enough to make it so that they are to valuable to be thrown away with the rest of the rejects

rich vale
#

I'm waiting for the Squats to be added in

celest dome
#

I wouldn't count on that

#

As they have previously said they didn't wanted to do Bardin but in Space

#

And it could be more difficult than we'd think to implement smaller player statures

timid ferry
#

They also forget how to build the stuff they do know occasionally

urban spire
#

throneside strikes me as a district entirely turned over to the ministorum

arctic talon
timid ferry
#

Isn’t one of the autogun patterns in the lore heavily implied to be the ak-47?

#

Same with one of the heavy stubbers being implied to be the M2?

urban spire
#

there are more patterns of autogun than there are planets in the imperium

#

you can see the AK DNA in some of the guns in this game though

#

they have that funky receiver

arctic talon
#

They just look similar

urban spire
#

the reach and intensity of the aduptus mechanicus is sometimes played up a bit too

#

there is plenty of innovation, especially in the field of autoguns, we're just not in a place with access to those

#

if we were on necromunda we would be drowning in exotic firearms

timid ferry
#

Mechanicus haven’t cornered the tech market on Necromunda anyways. That’s house Van Saar with their secret (totes not broken) STC

urban spire
#

that's right, mechanicus stooges aren't super welcome on necromunda

#

anyway throneside doesn't look to me like a place where people live, the whole place looks almost decorative compared to the very inhabited spaces in the other maps

pearl zealot
#

Has the emperor ever intervened in mortal matters? Like smote foes after being prayed to

stuck kindle
robust trellis
#

"Ah yes, Hadron, I have a question. How intriquite of a machine does it need to be before it gets a machine spirit? Cuz technically a wedge and other simple shapes are considered basic machines, and I doubt youre gonna tell me a wooden wedge block has a machine spirit. But if they do, that would mean every single screw has one, and a lasgun has a lot of screws. So is there like 50 machine spirits in one lasgun? Or do they fuse to become one?

What about like, a storm bolter thats two bolters stuck together. Does thay have two machine spirits?

What happens if you seperate the storm bolter into two bolters?

Or what about just attatching a second functional gun via pictinny rails. Does that merge the machine spirits?"

dark cloak
pearl zealot
#

So praying to emperor does nothing, but praying to chaos makes you evil and strong?

dark cloak
#

You could say that

timid ferry
#

That depends on how you interpret Acts of Faith

mystic geyser
#

@pearl zealot his usually blessing is buffing the particularly pious with acts of valor

dark cloak
#

I think the imperial cult is just one way to control the mortals

mystic geyser
#

Though after the cicatrix maledictum he's actually got More powerful

timid ferry
#

Is it simply the person (usually a sister) believing in big e so hard she warps reality itself and performs a “miracle” or is it big e smiling on his faithful?

stuck kindle
dark cloak
#

Yeah somehow they have to believe in something

pearl zealot
timid ferry
stuck kindle
pearl zealot
#

So he res someone and teleport them to the battle?

storm jungle
pearl zealot
#

I just want questions answered,not to go into a 5 hour rabbit hole

plush mason
#

sadly with warhammer those 2 are often the same

arctic talon
#

And most small weapons prolly don’t have a machine spirit

#

The more complex a thing the more “active” a machine spirit is

pearl zealot
#

... what the hell is a machine spirit

arctic talon
#

Who the fuck knows

plush mason
arctic talon
#

Prolly some mix between psychic imprints, and AI

#

Because they do exist in things like titans

plush mason
#

and ships

arctic talon
#

Titans straight up can have a ptsd attack

#

And princeps have to struggle with em

#

Same applies to imperial knights

plush mason
#

ye

arctic talon
#

And land raiders

#

And most tanks prolly

#

Any sort of complex machine prolly has a machine spirit

#

Any sort of simple machine doesn’t

#

Unless it’s a “relic”

plush mason
#

wasnt there one class of super tank made during the heresy that got mostly wiped out and as a result the remainders have bad PTSD and can only be used sparingly?

arctic talon
#

In which that case it probsbly has someone’s soul implanted in it

arctic talon
stuck kindle
sudden kelp
arctic talon
#

It’s also higher up

celest dome
#

Just Middlehive

#

Not that high

storm jungle
plush mason
#

lmao

storm jungle
#

actually nvm not even 5m

#

A scroll down took me like 2 seconds lmao

storm jungle
plush mason
#

LOL

#

do you just have that gif set to post when ever you post a link to the lexicanum?

storm jungle
#

Yes lmao

#

sorry I love the Boondocks

plush mason
#

its a great show

stuck kindle
#

A machine spirit is like if your printer doesn't work and you don't know why, so you pray that it will work and then it works.

storm jungle
#

tho ngl instead of a gif im just gonna edit it and utilize it, brb

plush mason
#

lol

pearl zealot
plush mason
#

gona have to bleep the audio ofc

storm jungle
#

will do 🙏

plush mason
#

ye

vocal drum
storm jungle
#

"Love story"

#

christ

vocal drum
#

WTF is this story he kidnapped her then uses her for his disease

storm jungle
#

Finally, my greatest weapon is complete

plush mason
#

nice

storm jungle
#

🙏

vagrant flicker
#

cant wait to visit the other hive city that was taken over by the genestealer cult

gusty sequoia
#

I need good book about cadia

#

Moment before they become nothing but dust and eco

storm jungle
gusty sequoia
#

Well now I have 3 book I don't know which one to read
GAUNT'S GHOSTS
Cadia stands
Eisenhorn
Which one should I start with

storm jungle
#

Cadia is literally about Cadia

#

Gaunt's Ghost and Eisenhorn are long series'

#

might be good to start with Cadia then move onto one of those

true sentinel
stuck kindle
nimble hazel
storm jungle
#

🫂

hushed kayak
crimson dragon
#

Saint celestine is waifu

#

Female daemon primarch

plush mason
#

you know. i feel like if that song had not been made the story of rylanor would just be a barely known foot note at best

arctic talon
#

Rylanor is pretty much a non character

#

In actual like lore

plush mason
#

ye

arctic talon
#

Also regarding the Cadia stands book

#

It has “some” inaccurate stuff in it

#

I.E Pask being on Cadia

#

When he wasn’t anywhere close to it

winter vessel
#

So, does it specify which part of the Inquisition we're in service to in Darktide? For the Majoris I can only think of is Ordo Hereticus, and for Minoris it would be the Ordo Sepultrum. I feel like the former might be the correct one though.

plush mason
#

hereticus

arctic talon
#

Hereticus is mentioned by name unless Grendyl is hiding what Ordo they’re actually in

brittle slate
winter vessel
brittle slate
#

I think it’s because I’m old or something but every word he says just sounds so “hype”

winter vessel
#

I used to watch majorkill for my sources of lore but his in between insult humor shtick was kinda breaking my interest in his videos.

proper blade
#

So is this basically the war Paul Atreides warned us about

#

im just now getting into war hammer i feel late af

winter vessel
#

I'm not so sure they're one in the same universe but both carry that grimdark feel. Dune was released like, 20 years before 40k so the latter shares a lot of inspiration from the book series

brittle slate
brittle slate
#

40k draws heavily from dune and most major 1970’s/80’s sci fi

winter vessel
brittle slate
#

The people I was with

#

This is a while back. But it left a bad taste in my mouth

winter vessel
#

Man's got a mouth like my old high school teacher. Anyways, I mostly get my info from Oculus Imperia for Imperium stuff. In general, I listen to Adeptus Ridiculous lore videos, it's not always 100% accurate but it's tame and entertaining. Other than that I search manually on the 40k website.

brittle slate
urban spire
#

is it possible celestine is just a powerful perpetual?

normal stream
#

So I think it's almost certainly hereticus

brittle slate
#

But I think it’s reincarnation

plush mason
echo vault
#

In the way of alternative heresy, I'd totally love to see space wolves be nurgilite instead of khornite. They'd basically be the thing but as poxed frozen cracking monoliths of illness unthawing and leaking pus and filth

plush mason
#

or was the age of apostate newer than that? or older?

#

yeah it was m36

brittle slate
plush mason
#

strange

#

ah so yeah she has been reincarnated before she became a sister of battle and then a living saint

wind heron
#

I wonder why we can't have space marines

#

when in VT2, Kruber can be a Grail Knight 👀

signal bramble
wind heron
#

Well it doesn't make sense for a Shade or Grail Knight or crazy wizard fallen Chaos to be helping the heroes in VT either

signal bramble
#

We have to look at VT as it's own thing. Also, there's already a few games with space marines already set in 40k

echo vault
#

If it was a 30k setting a black shield would fit since they have salvaged not as powerful sets of armor repaired and mismatched

scenic sun
#

Tbf don't black shields still exist in 40k?

#

Not arguing for space marine implementation, just saying

celest dome
#

Like sure Kruber become a GK, but what else do we have, a Fire Magister, a Witch Hunter, and a Waystalker

#

With Bardin technically having no real hero (TT) career

brittle slate
dusk patrol
#

Mostly tied to Deathwatch although you can put them anywhere really

#

It’s meant to be a blank slate for you to basically make anything you want out of him

forest shadow
#

Any recommendations for learning about the Mechanicus? I have read Brutal Kunnin' and Flesh & Steel for books that he heavily involve them. I am reading book on Cawl right now

dusk patrol
#

Forges of Mars

#

Really great book trilogy which goes into a lot of varied Ad Mech characters and the like

#

As well as other factions

#

Also Mechanicum is a ok Heresy book which goes into how they split during the Heresy

forest shadow
#

Ty I will start with Forges of Mars

twin seal
full bane
#

Forge of Mars, Mechanicum, and Titanicus are all great for exploring the various points of view within the Mechanicus.
And there are a lot of those.

final solar
#

Lorehammer is pretty much a less memey, more in-depth version of Adeptus Ridiculous, whilst predating it

spark relic
#

I think it's absolutely hilarious that the Blood Angels secret armoury has a Latin name that roughly translates to "Area 51"

forest shadow
#

And Bricky gets a ton wrong

#

Like in the Blood Angela video it's clear he never read or looked at any of their books or info

#

And basically just read off the wiki a bit

proud mango
#

stupid question: if you fall or embrace chaos, other than being purged, can you be redeemed? or are you fucked 😄

In other words could someone convince chaos marines not to be chaos marines?

barren tapir
#

Hinted to be yes, but no actual example exist

proud mango
#

cool

#

thanks

mystic geyser
#

There are some very niche examples.. so the Soul Drinkers were tricked into following a daemon Prince pretending to be the Emperor, but were able to (partially) resist and carry on as "loyal to the Emperor but not the Imperium" renegades.

gusty sequoia
#

did Dan Abnett writer story for darktide im rank 13 and story i got yet sucks

final solar
# forest shadow And Bricky gets a ton wrong

Well, this has always been the case. They’re passionate about 40k, but they’re a terrible source for actually learning the lore. I mostly watch episodes for the memes. Definately check out Lorehammer if you want more research and less meme-lore. They have a sense of humor but don’t take it too far.

celest dome
#

But he did write most of the lore for the game

#

So helped for weapons, convicts, enemies, places and such

#

But it's not an Rpg

rich vale
#

We're eventually gonna get a story along with some of the content that's missing, but there's genuinely no information on when that might happen

#

Or atleast, get more of a story

rich vale
echo vault
#

The blood angels juiced sanguinius of all of his blood

rough condor
#

On the topic of space marines in darktide, what are the chances of seeing Plague Marines?

#

a plague marine would make a sick boss fight

#

pun not intended

wooden ibex
#

While it does sound on brand for nurgle, a short isnt the most reliable source x)

stark cargo
forest shadow
barren tapir
storm jungle
rough condor
#

I'm not too disappointed by that, it's always nice to have a 40k breather away from marines

#

even if that breather will kill you from all the Nurgle diseases in the air

mystic geyser
#

@wooden ibex yeah. Even in DT one of the psyker dialogues is "I think it wants to play"

wooden ibex
#

;-; poor pest puppies

acoustic kraken
#

Okay so watching the luetin 40k lore stuff to learn, does he/anyone go into detail about each of the primarchs? Is there something y’all recommend? Cuz all these legion/chapter names are being thrown around and idk what they are

normal grove
#

Are there Ogryn Techpriests? Because I really want there to be

spark relic
#

there are techpriests as large as ogryns but no ogryn priests

#

Sad to say

rich sail
celest dome
#

No Ratling and SM either

#

Custodes we don't entirely know but most likely not, Sister of Battle maybe, I recall something of the sort, well they wouldn't be Tech Priest still, more liek Skitarii or something

normal grove
#

"Grug hit ship til worky, Grug big smart tech priest."

normal grove
undone zodiac
#

Whats Worst written lore in peoples opinion?

celest dome
#

No, Tech Sister of Battle

normal grove
#

mines funnier

celest dome
normal grove
#

thats pretty up there

undone zodiac
#

Fulgrim choking avatar of khaine is one of my top runners

#

Like how does it even work

celest dome
#

Chaos influence over Eldar Psyker power

undone zodiac
#

Avatar of khaine just keeps getting cucked in lore

#

Considering how powerful it should be

celest dome
#

True

#

Worse than Daemon

undone zodiac
#

12 carnifexes stomping over it

#

Fused with genestealer patriarch

#

Btfo'd by calgar

#

Its hilariously poorly treated

#

Well matt wards ultramarines kinda redch stupid levrls as well

#

Calgar using necron pylon as club

rich sail
undone zodiac
#

I havent read many stories containing him

#

But i know his gig

#

Wasnt there also some sm chapter master who was caught by tau and put in museum for show in stasis

celest dome
#

Lucius is the worst, cause he is made to be the whiny looser that still wind in the end

signal bramble
#

Just all of it.

solemn pivot
#

Ok so here’s a lore question… if the combined psychic belief of a species is enough to create a chaos god (Slannesh) why hasn’t the imperial cult already turned the GE into a god?

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Certainly more humans believe in the ge

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Because we are nowhere near the Psychic might of the fallen Eldar Empire

undone zodiac
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Gw not wanting to go there

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Yet

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And the Imperial Cult is very varied

solemn pivot
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That’s where I see it going though

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But seriously Aeldari was bigger.
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Damn

celest dome
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So you sometime have Living Saints and stuff but the most likely candidate is the Star Child

solemn pivot
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Gotcha

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Thanks for the info, makes sense

rich sail
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the emperor is already a warp god and celestine is his greater demon KEKW_ogryn

celest dome
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What are gods anyway

spark relic
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Prince? Princess? Who knows

barren tapir
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Cannot understand why people crave so much for big E to become a chaos entity, now how they hell they can came up with some very creative reasons as why he is now one

wooden ibex
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Well if the Emperor would be completly die he could return properly later....i believe that was in his power set.

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Or he becomes somekind of warp entity....i mean kinda is already but in a proper way.

barren tapir
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In theory yes, he is a perpetual, but seeing how GW found creative ways to kill every perpetual that was present in the great crusade we might see some weird event which would prevent him to return

wooden ibex
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A proper return or complet vanishing of the Emperor would be interresting 🤔

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if im not missinformed the Primarch Guiligan is the current effective Leader of the Empire so its not that they would be leaderless (even tho he isnt especialy happy about the Empire in its current state)

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noble hinge
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OK if the emperor is holding the horrors for the imperium, who is holding the horrors for the other races?

wooden ibex
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i mean we also have a giant rift in the universe that also acts as a gateway so....that train might have left the station ^^*

noble hinge
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So what exactly is the emperor doing?

wooden ibex
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Also if Guiligan wouldt have been resurrected via a combined effort of Eldar and a living saint...the empire would been in a even more devastatet state.
I know Guiligan tends to get joked about but he did huge things since his return.

wooden ibex
# noble hinge So what exactly is the emperor doing?

Beside "eating" thousands of psyker a day to keep up his effort.
Drive back chaos and i think keep up the astropath network.
But his actual mind is HEAVILY fractured and actualy targeted actions is a rare occurance.

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But when i think about it....the warp reflect the psychic of the martirial world.
WIth all the criel suffering the Empire creates...can it be that this very much is one reason why the warp is such a hellscape q-q

noble hinge
wooden ibex
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as far as i know the emperor absorbs them in some manor.

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or there psychic energy

earnest snow
noble hinge
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they get killed or just the psycic power is leached from them?

earnest snow
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They're put into chambers and killed via absorbed into the emperor

wooden ibex
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thousands daily

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the morbidly funny thing is that the Emperor himself was AGAINST Religion and such believes xD

noble hinge
wooden ibex
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killed in the process yes

noble hinge
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Daymm

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that's grimdark

barren tapir
noble hinge
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I think i found a good answer

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Aside from resurrecting Celestine repeatedly and powering all of the Sisters of Battle acts of faith. And fighting Warp Storms. And fighting Chaos in the Warp. And powering the Astronomicon. And keeping the gate underneath the Imperial Palace closed (thus keeping the Daemons and other nasties from invading Terra).

And occasionally psychically interacting with some of the Primarchs and other major characters (Vulkan approached the Throne during the War of the Beast and got a mind visit from ol' dad, Guilliman also communed with him after his resurrection, that's when daddy gifted him his super duper flame sword).

Dark Imperium actually covers that latter encounter briefly - it talks about how the Emperor has lost basically all of his humanity and regarded Guilliman like an unexpected but welcome lost tool, rather than a returned son.

Also the Throne is breaking down and the Mechanicus has no fucking clue how to fix it.

There was one Inquisitor who had the bright idea of inviting a Dark Eldar Haemonculus to come tinker with the Throne in the hopes he could fix it - luckily that was stopped by the Custodes and the rest of the Inquisition before the Dark Eldar party could get much further than the walls of the Inner Palace.

barren tapir
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wooden ibex
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"The Black Ships increased in number and frequency of their harrowing voyages. According to some records, today four times the number of psykers are sacrificed daily to maintain optimal levels of power to the Golden Throne and the Astronomican as were originally required in the days immediately after the Emperor's Ascension. "

barren tapir
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The astronomican is not powered by big E too, it is the psykers that power it, big E just direct it

wooden ibex
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"The Astronomican requires the sacrifice of large numbers of psykers daily for it to continue to function, and also for the Emperor to be kept alive on the Golden Throne. The Throne is maintained by members of the Adeptus Mechanicus, although as time passes the duty becomes increasingly difficult. "

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rich sail
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they should just ask eldrad to fix it kek

barren tapir
noble hinge
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What type of crimes would get you sentenced to "Servitude Imperpituis"?

wooden ibex
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A lot of things...of course not officialy but you know...in Dark Tide we also would have endet badly considering we were imprisoned under false acuse.

rich sail
barren tapir
brittle slate
plush mason
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the what?

celest dome
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And ?
We have human warp manifestations

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Big deal

plush mason
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yeah but. afaik tau souls are barely even noticeable in the warp

brittle slate
plush mason
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well the imperium didnt

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just some dumbass inquisitor

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plush mason
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plush mason
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they have allied psychic races?

brittle slate
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The tau have over 20 allied races and they get more off hand references every codex

plush mason
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ah k

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ty

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There are also human psykers that have probably allied with them among the guevesa.

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true

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Kroot: Member Species: Jikita: A mercenary race that was saved by the Tau centuries ago from an Ork invasion. They are now voluntarily primitive in terms of their technology save for their Warspheres which they use to traverse the Galaxy. They use cannibalism within their own race as well as eating other races, guided by their Shapers, to evolve.

Vespid: Member Species: Mal’kor: A race of colony insect like beings. They are regarded as a close ally to the Tau, their leaders wearing communion helms that provide communication between both species. They are noted as having colony rights.

Nicassar: Member Species: The first race to formally join the Empire, albeit after a brief conflict. They are entirely void-born, live in fleets called “Lifefleets” in which “dhows” travel together in caravans. They are officially described as having a ‘birdlike’ head and have impossibly potent telepathic abilities that propel their ships as well as an empathic ability so powerful they can create memories in someone’s mind, even Space Marines.

Human: At least partly Member Species: Gue’vesa: Formed into various divisions but notable seem to be the “Janissaries”. Humans seem to fulfill mostly a military and diplomatic role and are the only known alien race within the Empire to be given the use of Crisis suits implying they have earned a place quite high amongst the member species.

Nirrhoda: Affiliated: Indigenes of the planet Phaedra, possibly Ratlings. They are descendants of human colonists theoretically thousands of years ago. Described as squat, bow-legged with large glassy eyes.

Demiurg: Affiliated: Bentu’sin: At least two clans of Demiurg, Syrr’tok and Thurm, have found refuge in the Tau Empire from humanity. It is not known what they look like but they are adept miners and have advanced technology; they gifted Ion capable technology to the Tau when they joined.

Ji’atrix: Affiliated: ‘ethereal’ void farers, highly skilled at space-travel.

Ranghon: Affiliated: Unknown

Morralian “Deathsworn”: Affiliated: Unknown

Tarrellian Dog Soldiers: Affiliated: Reptillian mercenaries who despise humans who destroyed their home worlds.

Galgs: Multi-limbed creatures with tentacles (note: they are not frog-like by any official description).

Hrenian Light Infantry: Affiliated: Unknown

Anthrazods: Affiliated: Strong, sturdy, but known to be dim-witted used in asteroid mining.

Brachyura: Affiliated, possibly a Member Race: A small dexterous and multi limbed crustaceans that assist in the complicated process of constructing plasma generators.

Nagi: Member Race: Highly potent psykers and a seemingly small race of ‘mind worms’ that are carried in containment units that have been seen on Ethereals as well as high ranking humans in the Empire. They are noted to have attempted ‘breaking’ a Space Marine once but the cost to their collectives was too high to be deemed worthy of repeating. They are from Sha’galudd.

Greet: Affiliated, possibly a member species: An invertebrate species from the ocean world of Isla’su.

Formosians: Member Species: Joined the Empire in 896.m40

Thraxians: Member Species: Multi-limbed, joined the Empire willingly.

Pakasar: Affiliated: A race forcibly joined to the Empire.

N’deemi: Affiliated: Intelligence experts

G’nosh: Unspecified

Domati: Unspecified save for their “Wyrmships”

Yabi-Yabi: Unspecified, a space bound race

Boaburi: Unspecified

M’uh’ja: Unspecified

Vorgh: Unspecified; large enough to fight superheavy walkers

Ulumea: Part of the Ulumeathic League that was destroyed by the Hivefleet Naga.

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There’s a human psyker among the Tau in the farsight books. She’s secretly a spy but she helps them regardless. It’s not a spoiler either, they let us (the reader) know right in the beginning.

brittle slate
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Charpactin: supremely powerful psychic sentient fungus people

, Domati
Jagordians,
Phosiab
Poctroon: now extinct, former inhabitants of Bork’an
Pohu-Agg
Ostense Council
Nin'aenh

signal bramble
brittle slate
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(But tiny)*

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Either way. It took trillions of eldar thousands, if not millions, of years to generate the entity called Slannesh

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It took the Emperor being the most powerful psyker (ever?) along with dark age tech and making deals with the chaos gods to get the kind of power that then was worshipped by millions or more humans and then quintillions of humans who regularly make sacrifices and build churches to him to get the god status

rich sail
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Death to the false Emperor! Death! Death! Death!

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brittle slate
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The Tau’va isn’t a religion. A few aliens species worshipping it like one over the last 250 years shouldnt create a god entity that can brush off nurgle with faith magic (I don’t know what else to call it)

signal bramble
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In the new book we dare not speak of.

brittle slate
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And I’m saying it’s stupid.

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With that little required then every primarch should be a god. Especially the imperial ones.

barren tapir
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That list is fan made i guess

brittle slate
barren tapir
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There are duplicate entries

earnest snow
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It's weird hearing the tau have a God.

distant osprey
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rustic spruce
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Meanwhile in inquisitor martyr they out there murdering plague marines in the thousands

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The dichotomy of warhammer games

barren tapir
spark relic
barren tapir
brittle slate
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There’s the compiled lexicon with its list and then there’s the discord ATT. But that should be every Tau affiliated race ever mentioned

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With any blurbs about what they do. Most of them don’t have any

rustic spruce
brittle slate
rich sail
distant osprey
rustic spruce
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Plague marines can’t hope to face their natural predators vaccine marines

radiant crypt
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So ogryn have 100 toughness but veteran sharpshooter have 200 while in lore ogryn is way more durability then veteran sharpshooter, Does make no sense

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rustic spruce
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Tbf ogryn also has much more methods of reducing damage taken

distant osprey
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to be fair, they did the daemonhost some justice, seeing as it takes three bolt-rifle clips to kill one. rejects can have about that equivalent.

rich sail
dusk patrol
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Also, it’s a game

rough condor
dusk patrol
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Soaking up lasgun and heavy stubbers isn’t something any guardsmen or zealots or whatever are doing

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Especially without carapace

distant osprey
dusk patrol
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Daemonhosts and Beast of Nurgle would also stomp us so at a certain point Fatshark is taking liberties

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But I agreed with their choice to not include them

rustic spruce
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Obviously the next logical step is to include great unclean ones

brittle slate
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Wow no

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A great unclean one curbs space marines

dusk patrol
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I think he’s being sarcastic

brittle slate
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👍

rustic spruce
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We just need to wield something greater than power armor

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Plot armor

brittle slate
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I would love an option to run some janky power armor

dusk patrol
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At the end of the day too, a squad of four ain’t taking on hundreds of veteran traitor guard or all these cultists too

brittle slate
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But I’ll settle on a power fist

dusk patrol
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It’s a game

distant osprey
dusk patrol
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Lots of out there stuff is gonna exist

rich sail
brittle slate
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I still like the idea Grendel is empowering his teams

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rustic spruce
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Let’s carve our names on mortarions heart

rich sail
dusk patrol
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Even if he was, which seems super unlikely, especially the higher difficulties the sheer volume of the people we’re taking on is absurd

distant osprey
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also it usually takes a full squad of grey knights to kill a great unclean one so what if the rejects cleared some space for them to teleport in?

rustic spruce
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Ngl it was hilarious that sanguinius had weaponized plot armor

brittle slate
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That could be a cool aspect of the game at some point

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Getting a teleport homer so some AI space marines just obliterate something

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brittle slate
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Would be fluffy. In a game oddly lacking in fluff.

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It’s my only complaint of darktide.

rustic spruce
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Tbf nobody is coming right now

dusk patrol
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There’s a reason we’re being sent in, and it’s not because the Inquisitor is feeling like giving second chances

rustic spruce
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Doesn’t mean they can’t come later

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dusk patrol
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Maybe

rich sail
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not even the imperial guard is here on atoma lol its just heretics vs cannon fodder PDF

dusk patrol
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But for now we have no indication of that

rustic spruce
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Not like anybody expected to go to the chaos wastes when vermintide 2 released

dusk patrol
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Sure but this is more like them changing the End Times in Vermintide

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The premise is Indomitus is sucking everyone dry and so no one’s coming to help

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Grey Knights being one of the busiest factions with some of the lowest numbers

earnest snow
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Indomitus is looking rather indomitsus atm

rich sail
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do the ppl living in the spire of Tertium know of the rebellion down below and the fighting

spark relic
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Yes, definitely

dusk patrol
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From the pre game audio, probably not until it reached Throneside

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But it’s hard to say

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The leadership of the hive is suppressing it

rustic spruce
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I figure someone hears the leman russ tanks down below

dusk patrol
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They don’t even wanna tell Grendyl stuff

spark relic
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Hell, the spirefolk probably got hit hard by the attacks as well

dusk patrol
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Not necessarily

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Hives are massive places

rustic spruce
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I wanna see a baneblade in game

dusk patrol
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It’s hard for us to say how wide spread it is rightnow

rustic spruce
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Just to get a feel for the sheer size of the thing

spark relic
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They wouldn't deploy a Baneblade in a hive

dusk patrol
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They could

spark relic
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Too large, too heavy, too expensive

earnest snow
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They're probably preparing defenses at some point in the spires to try and keep the ones that "matter" from going ballistic that their world is being attacked by traitors. Which I'm curious if it will be explained on how they didn't know of this.

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Hives are really fucking big

rich sail
bleak violet
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so what's the lore on ascenders, how did mankind go from escalators, which still work as stairs when broken, to spiral staircases on vertical pipes which barely work when they're actually working

dusk patrol
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I don’t think we’d have one on world

dusk patrol
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No

spark relic
rustic spruce
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Gimme a class that can deploy a tarantula turret fatshark

spark relic
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Ogryn carries one around on his back as an ult

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I'd love to see it

rich sail
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terminator armor are just repurposed mining suits

dusk patrol
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No

spark relic
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Redesigned mining protective mech suits

dusk patrol
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They use elements of DAoT exo suits

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But they’re made for war, said suits werent armored power armor which does everything terminators do

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They mostly used the part which had extreme radiation shielding and the like

spark relic
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there is lore saying they were found in large mining facilities as well though

dusk patrol
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The lore doesn’t say they found the suits as is

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It says they used the suits to incorporate them into the terminator armor

rustic spruce
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Is there a functional difference between auramite and ceramite

dusk patrol
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Auramite is better

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But also expensive as hell

forest shadow
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One is much more protective and the Custode's suits are likely more high tech

dusk patrol
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One full suit is apparently as expensive as a world

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Whatever that means

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But yeah, ceramite ain’t cheap but it’s nowhere near that

rustic spruce
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You gotta respect orks ability to make a bastardized version of various technology they see

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They see a dreadnought? Boom killa kan

brittle slate
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I think it was something previous generations of nerds basically “memed” before there was meming

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I don’t even think there was a connection in old lore if you go over old White Dwarf entries

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Same as the whole “Baneblade = Light Tank” thing is basically just a complete fabrication

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dusk patrol
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Valdor sparred Horus

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List goes on