40k-lore-chat

[scenic sun]

lmao

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s an overload

To your senses lol

[hearty bluff]

Ah yes pizza, perfume, alcohol and other various substances

[stark frigate]

Having extreme new senses shared and experiences, they'd smell of sex one second, a dead rotting body the next and then expired milk or perfume

[scenic sun]

cum

[urban spire]

GW has dialed back the sex angle on slaanesh so hard it's barely even there

[scenic sun]

actually, i belive slanesshi daemons would smell BEAUTIFULLY

they are supposed to lure you in

[stark frigate]

The whole vibe of Slaanesh is excess and perfection, having new tastes and smells that assault your senses would be very in-line with them

[scenic sun]

to fill your senses with pleasure, until they strike

[arctic talon]

Not true what so ever

[scenic sun]

daemonettes kill unsuspecting citizens that way, they just lure people in

[stark frigate]

Its still there but not front and center anymore

[hearty bluff]

your ears hearing gentle melodies of harps followed by screaming

[arctic talon]

Slaanesh is more so about the excess of everything now

Rarher then having that as front and center

[scenic sun]

what would a khorne daemon smell off?

[urban spire]

that one's easy, blood and brass

[arctic talon]

Also the fulgrim pear of agony scene

[scenic sun]

ash too maybe?

[arctic talon]

Slaanesh absolutely

Still has freaky sex stuff

[scenic sun]

didn't the emperors children have an orgy while the iron warriors where standing there all disciplined, facepalming

[hearty bluff]

Blood, gunpowder and metal

[storm jungle]

Not orgies

[scenic sun]

in angel exterminatus

[storm jungle]

more just uh

[arctic talon]

Murder

Lol

[storm jungle]

turning people to drugs and mutilating them

[arctic talon]

The mortals

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[urban spire]

i kinda hate how sex negative slaanesh writing is

ot

[arctic talon]

Were having that

[storm jungle]

I dont

[arctic talon]

Sex isn’t a bad thing in warhammer

[storm jungle]

we dont need sex

[arctic talon]

Tbf

It’s taking it too far

[storm jungle]

the fandom does enough of that shit it self

[arctic talon]

Lmao

True also

Slaanesh isn’t good

[scenic sun]

I know in that fatefult music consert, the mortals started actually fucking eachother, the space marines... i am not sure. That's when they turned

[arctic talon]

Don’t try to fuck a daemonette you’ll get flayed alive

[arctic talon]

Murder

And uh

Other things

[urban spire]

i'm not saying slaanesh writing should be more about how great sex is, i'm saying it should be less about "look at these awful perverts"

[scenic sun]

the daemonette wants you to try to fuck her

honestly

[storm jungle]

I mean it isnt tho

[scenic sun]

she wants to lure you

[arctic talon]

I mean it’s look at these insane people

[storm jungle]

sex is something most 40k books entirely avoid

[arctic talon]

Like the emperors children

Turning people into drugs

[scenic sun]

People cocaine

[storm jungle]

yeah its entirely hedonism

[arctic talon]

Or just

Eating people

Because it’s tasty

[scenic sun]

space marines already do that technically

soo

[arctic talon]

Making their eardrums bleed

Because it’s a “beautiful” sound

And they need to hear more of it

Noise marines are sharing the wonderful sounds

Gifted to them

[scenic sun]

In conclusion: If you're about to be captured by a slaneshi cult, go through the emperor's mercy

[arctic talon]

Slaanesh and nurgle

[urban spire]

when they don't it gets pretty bad about it

[arctic talon]

Are on the do not be captured by list

[scenic sun]

khorne doesn't capture you

so it's fine

lol

[arctic talon]

Khorne just murders you

Yeah

Tzeentch

50/50

Of horrific death

Or just a violent death

[hearty bluff]

Give me good sex in my grimdark 😤

[urban spire]

whatever, sorry i brought it up, rather just not talk about it

[scenic sun]

tzeencht... i belive he may actually hold you for ransom if he finds you useful enough

[hearty bluff]

Lmfao

[scenic sun]

i'd say he is more pragmatic

[arctic talon]

Also that one slaaneshi guy

Who ate so much

He exploded

Into a warp portal is funny

[hearty bluff]

Bruh

I really gotta read more 40k fiction

[scenic sun]

wasn't there a corrupted governor who jokingly invited daemonettes into a banket

[arctic talon]

There’s a slaanesh planet

That’s just

A fat guy

[scenic sun]

and then they just fucking show up

[arctic talon]

In the fetal position

[scenic sun]

i belive slaneshi cults are not an underhiver thing

right?

they're more like noble societies

[atomic pelican]

They can be either

[arctic talon]

It’s just a fat guy

[scenic sun]

underhivers usually get nurgle or khorne, or tzeencht

fat

[dusk patrol]

You mean it’s the most fit 40k fan

[arctic talon]

Noise marines live on it

[scenic sun]

the

[arctic talon]

True

[scenic sun]

reminds me of this

[arctic talon]

The planet ate an entire marine chapter

[arctic talon]

And then puked it back up

[vocal drum]

so what if you pray to the god emperor can you get powers?

[arctic talon]

As a cannibalism practicing warband

[arctic talon]

Sometimes

Maybe

[scenic sun]

sisters of battle less go

[urban spire]

the chaos gods all embody things an underhive might go in for

[scenic sun]

BRUH someone's making a "great clean one" in total war warhammer 3

[stark frigate]

Back, boss needed help with something

[scenic sun]

Yes SAH

[stark frigate]

So whats the topic now

[arctic talon]

Great clean one

Fits slaanesh

More then it fits nurgle

Still absolutely horrifying tho

[scenic sun]

Actual ogre

[celest dome]

Great Clean One is a Daemon of the Emperor

Sharer of Secret

[scenic sun]

great unlean ones are not paid enough by nurgle so they sometimes take a promethium shower and work with slanesh as a side job

[urban spire]

we're not getting any daemons of the emperor until he properly bites it

[celest dome]

Bloodquencher

[urban spire]

unless you count the living saints i guess

[scenic sun]

it's hard raising 473 nurglings

[arctic talon]

Sorta legion of the damned?

Not really

They did go poof like the daemons

[stark frigate]

We already have

[arctic talon]

When the cadian pylon turned on

[stark frigate]

Living saints are Emperor made daemons

[arctic talon]

Daemon princes

More like

[stark frigate]

Saint celestine is an emperor daemon

[arctic talon]

They still have a corporeal form

[scenic sun]

legion of the dammed might be

[celest dome]

I still would prefer a Solar Macharius IG Legion of the Damned

[urban spire]

i did literally say that

[stark frigate]

Only just joined the conversation

[scenic sun]

there's the star child but only tzeench knows if that's still cannon

[stark frigate]

Didnt see

Don't forget the sensei

[celest dome]

Aren't living saint closer to Daemon Princes ?

[stark frigate]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Yea

[scenic sun]

aren't just sensei the children of the emperor

like... when he actually fucked

[urban spire]

sensei are complicated

[stark frigate]

Possible fragments of the emperor which are basically 40k jedi

Iirc

[arctic talon]

There's a lot to like

[scenic sun]

oh

[arctic talon]

unravel with them lol

[stark frigate]

And may not even be canon still, which is lame

Modern GW are cowards

[urban spire]

the imperium absolutely hate them

[arctic talon]

They are

canon

[urban spire]

modern GW is complicated too

[scenic sun]

uh

[stark frigate]

Based

[arctic talon]

They're mentioned in the HH Mechanicum book

[stark frigate]

Good to see obscure lore still being canon

[arctic talon]

as a potential candidate for a guardian of the Dragon of Mars

[celest dome]

Isn't the current one a kid ?

[stark frigate]

Fun fact, the guy who drove the dragon out of whales is theorized to be the emperor, who then sealed it on mars somehow

[urban spire]

ole ollanius pius has gone from being a regular guardsman to a custodes to a sensei i believe

[arctic talon]

Sorta? She was young

[urban spire]

or at least a perpetual

[arctic talon]

Ollanius Pius is a perpetual

who's always been on the losing side of a war lol

yes

that includes the unifciation wars and such

[stark frigate]

I wouldn't mind being a perpetual

[celest dome]

I would

[arctic talon]

I would

it would suck lol

[celest dome]

I value my mortality

[stark frigate]

I don't care about seeing my loved ones die, its inevitable

[arctic talon]

I do not want

to be stuck in the infinite black void

[celest dome]

Even more if I live in 40k

[arctic talon]

waiting to revive

[stark frigate]

I want to see what the future holds

[urban spire]

being a perpetual sounds fun

[atomic pelican]

The worst fate, dustbowl with 20 second respawn time

[stark frigate]

You'd not be conscious, so you'd be dead essentially

[celest dome]

Being a Daemon sound somewhat fun

[stark frigate]

Not really

[urban spire]

ugh no daemons have it bad, constant work

no downtime, always on the grind

[stark frigate]

You're constantly fighting other daemons in the warp for the chance to actually spawn

[celest dome]

But fun work, for them

[stark frigate]

They're constantly eating eachother and fusing together too

[arctic talon]

hey you might be this daemon

[urban spire]

a lot of them hate it, and then you can get arbitrarily punished by your god too

[arctic talon]

you get to have some "fun"

[stark frigate]

And yeah your god could just erase you into warp dust if they're angry or bored

[urban spire]

tallymen of nurgle? nothing but work, and those dickheads on their giant flies yelling at you

[arctic talon]

Bloodletters are always trying to move up the totem pole

same with blood thirsters

they have a super strict hirarchy

[stark frigate]

Same for all khornate worshipers tbh

Your ally could just as easily fucking kill you than the enemy, to get up the totem pole of power

At least your fellow guardsman covers your back

[urban spire]

slaaneshi daemons probably have the best time, but slaanesh is the most mercurial of the gods, you don't want to end up like the masque

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[stark frigate]

She'll eat your soul when you die, so nah

[arctic talon]

Daemon

not worshiper

big dif

[stark frigate]

Same thing happens, no?

[urban spire]

daemons don't die, they just get farted back out in the warp

[arctic talon]

^

you get sent back to the warp

[urban spire]

they change state, but they don't die

[arctic talon]

maybe yelled at

and then its back to work

[stark frigate]

I know, but they can die in the warp too

[arctic talon]

yeah they just return to their gods "realm"

what happens when they die in their gods realm

[stark frigate]

If a god is tired of your failures, they'll turn you into warp dust

[arctic talon]

they just revive

[plush mason]

that dude is still alive isnt he

[arctic talon]

Yes

he is still alive

[stark frigate]

Pretty sure some gods erase daemons they're sick of dealing with and their failures

[arctic talon]

Greater daemons sure

but not lesser ones

[urban spire]

afaik just getting erased is rare, you're more likely to get punished somehow, like being bound to a daemon weapon or something

[arctic talon]

if you're a lesser one you aren't worth like

[stark frigate]

Interesting

[arctic talon]

wasting the time on

[celest dome]

He is accompanying vocal for the harp solo

[arctic talon]

also yeah if Skarbrand didn't get dusted

[stark frigate]

Id still rather be a human, thanks

[arctic talon]

for trying to kill khorne

its pretty hard to get dusted lol

[urban spire]

i'd rather be something with a lot of downtime you know

like a perpetual

[stark frigate]

Let me be a perpetual serving the krieg

Good times

[urban spire]

i guess space marines have a lot of downtime but it doesn't seem very restful, you get 4 hours of sleep and then it's wake up and do bolter drills, meditation and all that shit

[scenic sun]

I'd rather be a noble in a civilised world, it must be aking to being the CEO of a particularly cutthroaty corporation

[stark frigate]

4 hours of sleep with your eyes open and standing up still, sometimes too

[stark frigate]

Kind of, actually

[scenic sun]

if you're a blood angel you have painting at 17 and sculping at 19

[stark frigate]

And scripture maintenance

[scenic sun]

yep

[urban spire]

mandatory painting and sculpting sounds awful

[scenic sun]

and at 21 we have the rather loud "DO NOT LOOK, HORUS ISN'T THERE" event

[urban spire]

just let me do my charcoals and leave me alone, geez

[stark frigate]

You just won a battle or did something impressive? Better add it onto a purity seal on your armor before you inevitably go insane

[scenic sun]

do ultramarines actually do anything besides training?

[stark frigate]

Ah yes, the random "horus" event

[scenic sun]

aren't some of them governors?

[stark frigate]

Paperwork

[scenic sun]

or get involved in politics?

[stark frigate]

Yes, some help maintain and rebalance worlds they take back

[urban spire]

high rank ultramarines do statecraft

[stark frigate]

They're trained in being diplomats

[scenic sun]

hmmm

[urban spire]

boyscout-ass marines

[scenic sun]

can't wait to see mr president catious the ultramarine, that cannot fit on his chair

and whenever you give him paperwork he looks down at you, grumbles and finally says "Sure, fine, i'll do it, I'll do it all then!"

[urban spire]

salamanders get to be with their families, which is cool

[scenic sun]

ultramarines do too i belive

but they don't really like it? Or it's more of a "ah yes, you're my great grand nephew, nice to meet you"

[urban spire]

isn't ole rowboat trying to put a stop to the whole death world recruitment business?

[scenic sun]

"goodbye"

rowboat is reasonable so he said "Please stop mistreating our citizens, it won't make them stronger..."

"look at macragge, it's nice and we recruit from there. Our space marines are fine!"

[urban spire]

nice to have someone who isn't a social darwinist in charge

[scenic sun]

guess so

[stark frigate]

People forget Blood angels are as friendly as Salamanders

[scenic sun]

he's still a tyrant, just an intelligent one. He's no caligula, he's a marcus aurelius

[urban spire]

lol, salamanerds

[scenic sun]

or a Justinian

[urban spire]

better than the high lords of terra at least

[scenic sun]

now they're just puppets. Ironic, horus got his wish fullfilled

[urban spire]

i am optimistic about the benevolent tyrant, real jazzed to see where the imperium is going next

[scenic sun]

transhumans rule the imperium unopposed mostly

Horus, you bastard, you were right

[urban spire]

grimdark needs some brightness for contrast

[stark frigate]

Pretty sure the last book that progressed lore and the year, ended with Guilliman reading either the current codex or the imperial cult religious book

[scenic sun]

damm

poor rowboat

[stark frigate]

He wasnt right, chaos tricked him into showing a future HE caused

At most its self serving

[scenic sun]

i'd say the setting was never grimdark until 35k more or less hit

[stark frigate]

Self fulfilling prophecy

[scenic sun]

he also thought that it was unfair the transhuman soldiers who liberated the galaxy were to not rule it

[stark frigate]

Cope

[scenic sun]

instead the emperor wanted to give control to normal humies

[stark frigate]

You're a soldier and a tool, fucking baldy

[urban spire]

woah

don't be mean to horus

he's just a little guy

[stark frigate]

Horus did everything wrong

[urban spire]

it's his birthday

[stark frigate]

Weak minded waste of space

0 cognitive skills

All that brain and didnt think "hmm maybe they're tricking me"

[atomic pelican]

Bald hero killed the golden menace

God bless our troops

[stark frigate]

Horus is burning in the void as we speak

[celest dome]

The Emperor did nothing right

[stark frigate]

Burning in nothingness, since Big E fucking atomized his ass

The emperor did 50% wrong

50% right

[celest dome]

Not before he did Golden Hawk boy

[atomic pelican]

Woah someones touchy abt this

[stark frigate]

The ends justified the means

[stark frigate]

Im joking

But i do hate horus and chaos

[celest dome]

Well his grand plan was a net loss for Mankind

[stark frigate]

Just playing it up a bit for comedic sake

[atomic pelican]

"Im joking but Its true"

[stark frigate]

Because of the heresy

[urban spire]

i wish chaos was better written, the baby eating is kinda tedious

[stark frigate]

If there was no heresy, everything would've been fine

[urban spire]

satuday morning cartoon villain ass

[rustic spruce]

it's all erebus' fault

[stark frigate]

The ends justify the means

[stark frigate]

TRUE

[celest dome]

With If, we could put Paris in a bottle

[atomic pelican]

The actual chaos books bang. Just ignore loyalist slop

[stark frigate]

The real archtraitor was erebus

Another baldy

Bald people are evil

[rustic spruce]

lorgar had to go and write that damned book

[atomic pelican]

I suggest Talon of Horus and Black Legion + the NL trilogy. All the chars have so much personality

[stark frigate]

Lorgar knew exactly what he was doing with that book

He played the long-con

[urban spire]

the best chaos lore i ever read was the black crusade rpg by ffg, and even that was kinda bleh

[stark frigate]

And fucking won

[atomic pelican]

Black Crusade bangs

[scenic sun]

respect my iron warriors

or else

[atomic pelican]

I once tore off a guardsman's head and threw it at another

[stark frigate]

.> silver

[scenic sun]

silver?

don't get it

[urban spire]

i get that it's supposed to be grimdark but come on, they're also the gods of love, passion, courage and hope

[stark frigate]

Imagine your legion "colours" being silver

[rustic spruce]

I don't feel very loved when they're demons are turning me into a flesh cube

[urban spire]

yeah that's the bit that could be better, i mean

[stark frigate]

Minorly, they're too warped at this point to do any good

[urban spire]

it's okay for chaos to contain the baby eating, it just also needs some of that other spice for contrast

[atomic pelican]

The best part of Chaos will always be mortals/CSM. The daemons themselves always will be kind of flat

[celest dome]

Chaos Warrior are more interesting than CSM

[urban spire]

true

[atomic pelican]

I agree but I like both

[stark frigate]

Khārn the betrayer, most based chaos marine

[urban spire]

CSM are kinda single minded

[atomic pelican]

If u mean like AoS/fantasy warriors

[rustic spruce]

at least with khorne here's no grand design, he just wants to kill me

[stark frigate]

Khorne is the most straight forward chaos god

I respect him for that

[celest dome]

Old World and AoS

[atomic pelican]

Yees tru then

[celest dome]

But 40k human cultist are great too

[urban spire]

khorne is the god of courage and martial honour as well, he (should) have no interest in killing non-combatants

[atomic pelican]

Chaos Warriors are allowed to be more human which bangs

And yess

[stark frigate]

lol. Lmao

[celest dome]

The good aspect of the Chaos Gods was retconned iirc

[urban spire]

yeah and it sucks

[stark frigate]

He does not care where the blood is flowing, as long as its flowing

[urban spire]

he kinda was given khaine's hat

[stark frigate]

Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne

[rustic spruce]

well in khorne's case he does hate it when you stab someone in the back, skarbrand can attest.

[stark frigate]

Yeah, too tzeentchy of him

Stab him in the face next time, schemin loser

I dont think the Rejects realise the abomination of nurgle that spawns as a miniboss is a daemon

[urban spire]

the beast of nurgle?

[stark frigate]

Yeah

[urban spire]

yeah, a bit funny

[atomic pelican]

I assume they might get the idea when it vanishes

[stark frigate]

They sometimes talk about how daemons arent real, even after facing the beast

[atomic pelican]

Upon death

[urban spire]

but regular citizens aren't supposed to know what a daemon is, really

[atomic pelican]

O

[stark frigate]

I think they second guess themselves

Probably have pre determined ideas of what a daemon looks like

And it isnt a big slug, lmao

"that wasnt a daemon right? Nahh... It had no horns or fire!"

[urban spire]

beasts of nurgle are pretty strange

[stark frigate]

But with how it vanishes after dying, its definitely a daemon

I think we may see more

There's an armoured daemon in the intro cinematic and one of the trailers which isnt in the game yet

I hope we see those little nurgle daemon things too

[urban spire]

it is, when they die they return to the warp, and they have a whole weird life cycle where over millennia they slowly become resentful when their "playmates" kill them, and eventually get so grumpy they turn into those big flies heralds of nurgle ride around on

[urban spire]

nurglings would be fun

awful but fun

[stark frigate]

These lil fellas should spawn in hordes with poxwalkers

Or be loot enemies like that one rat in Vermintide 2

Loot enemies may be a better idea actually

[celest dome]

Holding up a box/Chest or something

So individually they just flee but otherwise they spawn as a single entity stuck to the object

[stark frigate]

They run around with one of those small item crates, when you kill it you can open it

They're fast and at the back of groups, so easy to miss

Item in the chest can be ammo, grenades, useables or an emperor tarot card which can improve your emperor's gift chances

Fatshark hire me

[scenic sun]

Give the nurgling goofy ass voicelines

[plush bronze]

imagine encountering death guard and knowing its senseless and then some ultra marines who got some secret mission over there saves you in last second & leaves you without a word after it. or maybe the grey knight who is doomed to be in the immaterium & sometimes help his brothers or smth like that. but i know the devs said no space/chaos marines and there rly lore friendly

or 1 death guard chaos marine as a boss, but i think it would be allrdy to much

i mean it would be to much, but maybe they could give us an AI Space Marine who tanks him for us in an event or smth like that 😄

[hearty bluff]

I was always under the impression that if a guardsman saw and fought against chaos they'd be terminated for protection of the imperium

[dusk patrol]

It varies

It’s more of if they could have been corrupted

See: the Moebian 6th for why they do that

[plush bronze]

yea i think even space marines have to prove them sometimes after a mission ( like Titus in Space Marine )

[stark frigate]

Pretty sure they said they're never adding space marines of any kind

Nurgle or otherwise

[plush mason]

they have yes

[dusk patrol]

Many times

This will not stop people

https://tenor.com/view/beat-dead-horse-beat-a-dead-horse-metaphor-gif-17347367

[urban spire]

i was under the impression the 6th was corrupted because they'd been pushed too hard for too long

[dusk patrol]

It’s not really clear why for now, probably a mix of a lot of things.

Basically the “be careful not to become the monsters you fight” kinda deal

[vocal drum]

so in this game is my char on the good side?

[dusk patrol]

There is no good side

[crisp heath]

Well if you consider the Imperium good (but they aren't)
yeah... sure

[dusk patrol]

But you are fighting a worse side and fate for a lot of people

[rustic spruce]

we're on our side

[dusk patrol]

Not good, but not as bad as it could be

[crisp heath]

In Warhammer everyone is evil, there is no good
In this case is just lesser evil vs greater(?) evil

Basically

[plush mason]

ngl i feel like someone just needs to make a gif of a person beating a grease spot in the shape of a horse at this point

[dusk patrol]

Maybe someone will talk about something fresh instead

[severe sandal]

Are techpriests planned for a role in DarkTide?

[crisp heath]

I kinda want a CSM boss fight
in lore that would mean nothing since a CSM would just sneeze and kill 10 guardsmen but
would be fun nonetheless

[dusk patrol]

Omg

The timing

[severe sandal]

Or a Mechanicus aligned heretic

[plush mason]

lol

[severe sandal]

As a playable role

[dusk patrol]

Quick someone bring up lasgun recoil

We’ll have the trifecta

[plush mason]

lmao

[crisp heath]

[severe sandal]

Will they ever add a Mechanicus aligned individual as a playable class?

[celest dome]

There still the Bolter discussion that can be added

[narrow pebble]

Guys read some 40k books

[dusk patrol]

The answer is maybe

[narrow pebble]

Regular dudes kill space marines all the time

[dusk patrol]

We don’t know

But we’re not getting a new archetype for awhile

[hollow lantern]

Fwiw they feel excellent

[narrow pebble]

From 30k to 40k it happens

[severe sandal]

Heretech role 🤤

[dusk patrol]

At least a year I’d say

[rustic spruce]

gimme hopper mines

[severe sandal]

In 30k they had volkite weapons and were some of the most elite troops to ever exist

[dusk patrol]

And in 40k they have all the other weapons which also kill marines

[severe sandal]

In 40k they just have plot armor or 11,000 people blasting away at one guy

[dusk patrol]

Meltas, plasma, explosives, bolters, heavy bolters, hellguns, and so on

Or just copious amounts of lasgun fire

[rustic spruce]

you can tell which individuals have plot armor by whatever named character is currently fighting swarmlord

[celest dome]

Or simply Stick

And a load of luck

[celest dome]

Or Avatar of Khaine

[severe sandal]

If they’re fighting the swarm lord with a titan then it’s not plot armor

[plush mason]

the only reason there will not be SM or CSM in Darktide is because Fatshark has already said they will not add them, it has nothing to do with lore or anything else so can everyone just drop it already?

[rustic spruce]

as long as 40k fans draw breath somebody is gonna ask for SM

[dusk patrol]

"The Legionnaire that scoffs at a lasgun has not charged across an open field against a hundred of them.”
— Maor the Scarred, Siege-Champion of the Scargivers, Black Crusade

[plush mason]

no amount of bitching or pointing out why it can work lore wise will change FS's mind on that

[rustic spruce]

obviously they got to add an ork kommando class

[plush mason]

hell that will be better than a more SM wank

[celest dome]

The only 2 Non human unit in game currently are the Beast of Nurgle and the Hound

[plush mason]

and all the ogryns

[vocal drum]

ok so what side am i on why am i fighting zombie things

[dusk patrol]

Dude like

Have you played the game?

[celest dome]

Still under the umbrella term of human

[dusk patrol]

They explain this stuff

[vocal drum]

alright

[plush mason]

abhuman means not human but also useful so cant just wipe them all out

[stark frigate]

Play the game

You might just find out why

[dusk patrol]

It more just means stable strain tbh

Xenos is for non humans

[rustic spruce]

we fight because the commissar told us to fight

[dusk patrol]

Abhumans are stable and sanctioned mutants basically

[stark frigate]

The Inquisitor*

[stark frigate]

Ratlings, Ogryns and i cant remember the others

Squats

[arctic talon]

Troths

Pelegars

[stark frigate]

What're those

Im not familiar

[arctic talon]

Troths are tree people

[stark frigate]

What

[dusk patrol]

Felinids

[arctic talon]

Pelegars are deep sea adapted humans

[dusk patrol]

For degenerates

[arctic talon]

Super muscular

Almost as strong as an ogryn

[stark frigate]

Oh yeah felinids, who still dont have models or official artwork

[arctic talon]

Longshanks

As well

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot of one off Abhumans who are mentioned once ever

[arctic talon]

Scalies kekw

Gland warriors

[stark frigate]

When were Felinids mentioned

[plush mason]

GW is afraid to make those lol

[arctic talon]

Afrial strain(technically)

[stark frigate]

Upgrade sprue when

[arctic talon]

Liber xenologis

Is their most recent mention

[dusk patrol]

Their description is not sexy cat girl either

[arctic talon]

Beastmen

Are abhumans

They have big claws

According to a kroot

Nightsiders

[dusk patrol]

Despite the wishes of degenerates

[plush mason]

yeah but iirc kroot cant tell any non kroot apart

[arctic talon]

That’s all I can remember

[vocal drum]

if i wanted power easily then worshipped chaos, what would happen to me what i be strong to 1v1 a space marine?

[arctic talon]

Off the top of my head

[arctic talon]

No

Odds are chaos doesn’t give you shit

Minor blessings won’t help

You have to do somthing big

To get that many blessings

Burn a planet or 2

Kill billions

Ect.

[celest dome]

Isn't the meaning "Abnormal Human" ?

[arctic talon]

Abhumans are technically evolved humans

Just adapated to whatever sort of environment

They were in

[celest dome]

Depend on how you want to do your 1v1

Like using Sorcery might let you win against a SM more easily

[vocal drum]

my body will be super strong?

[stark frigate]

What

[arctic talon]

I mean

[shell warren]

If I had 3 wishes, I'd be a Space Marine

[arctic talon]

Depends lol

Chaos mutations aren’t exactly known for being uh

Consistant

[stark frigate]

You might die

[arctic talon]

Lol

Pretty much

Chaos worship is like rolling a D20

Every time you get a

Blessing

[shell warren]

I want to be blessed by Khorne like Kharn the Betrayer

[vocal drum]

is that how it works?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[shell warren]

But finally kill Erebus

[vocal drum]

thats pretty cool

[arctic talon]

Chaos is

Chaotic

[dusk patrol]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nnMxQxjbLZs&feature=share

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

This video is a good example

[arctic talon]

I recognize that one

[dusk patrol]

You have literally hundreds of dudes waiting to maybe be chosen by this daemon

[stark frigate]

You'll either die, become a conduit for a daemon to posess/kill you, get betrayed by your acolytes, killed by whatever you're afflicted by from nurgle and turned into a poxwalker or worse, turned into a pink horror, blown up, go insane or killed for being a heretic @vocal drum

[dusk patrol]

One guy gets to ascend out of all of them

The rest die horrifically to daemons

That’s Chaos

[urban spire]

nah chaos has regular people too

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

[urban spire]

otherwise it just wouldn't work

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[stark frigate]

1 out of like 1,000 people actually worship chaos with a decent outcome that isnt instant death or worse

[arctic talon]

But if you wana ascend

It’s gona suck

[dusk patrol]

And those regular dudes are stuck where they are mostly

[arctic talon]

^

That also

[urban spire]

also a fair amount of hereteks

the dark mechanicum

[arctic talon]

dark mechanicum is even more of a clusterfuck

Then the Adeptus mechanicus

[dusk patrol]

The point which I thought was clear is it’s a pyramid scheme

[stark frigate]

You're more likely to die than get any actual benefit

[arctic talon]

And that’s saying a lot

[dusk patrol]

And you’re probably not gonna be on top

[urban spire]

hereteks are too cool, we need more mechanicus stuff in general imo

[dusk patrol]

And even if you do ascend

You’re gonna probably get fucked over anyways eventually

[stark frigate]

And you become a slave to that chaos god you worship and become a pawn essentially

Even if you don't think youre a slave, you are, thats how chaos works

[vocal drum]

LAME

[dusk patrol]

Champions of Chaos get screwed over by the whims of their gods constantly

[vocal drum]

i want power easily

[arctic talon]

Lol

[stark frigate]

Desperate people do desperate things

[arctic talon]

Not a thing in 40k

Life sucks

[stark frigate]

Wont be happening in 40k then

[arctic talon]

Odds are you’ll die

Easiest power possible

Is being born as an ethereal

Arguably

[stark frigate]

Also those "zombies" are poxwalkers, they were people afflicted by the pox virus from that train in the beginning of the darktide cinematic

[ocean vale]

yea u prob wont make it pass age 20

[stark frigate]

And whatever the fuck happened in the hab zone with that flesh tree

[arctic talon]

Average lifespan in necromunda 💀

[urban spire]

ok being born rich is easy power pretty much in every faction

[stark frigate]

Being in your mid to late 30s is "old" in necromunda

[dusk patrol]

Just be born a primarch

[stark frigate]

[ocean vale]

frfr

[dusk patrol]

Nerds

[arctic talon]

Lol

[ocean vale]

fr tho best chance at an ok life is with the tau

[urban spire]

nah, the leagues of votann

unless you're talking about defecting

[dusk patrol]

I’d rather kill myself than be born a manlet

[ocean vale]

but then ur clone dwarf

[stark frigate]

The caste system can be rough

[ocean vale]

fr

[arctic talon]

Not too bad tho

[dusk patrol]

Ogryn is best life

[arctic talon]

Like yeah

[dusk patrol]

Your big and strong

[arctic talon]

Ur stuck to a type of job for life

[stark frigate]

Ignorance is bliss

[dusk patrol]

Everyone else is small

[arctic talon]

But you won’t get executed randomly for not working hard enough

[dusk patrol]

Get to punch stuff for the government

Get medals for it

[severe sandal]

Old people on necromunda are terrifying

[ocean vale]

yea ogryn life bes life

[urban spire]

i'm 6'6 irl, trust me it sucks, it was fun for like 5 years in my 20s, now it's just lower back problems, foot problems, can't fit in cars, bump my head on things

not worth it

[dusk patrol]

lil uns love you

[crisp heath]

Realistically if most of us are Americans its like being born on terra or ultramar which is mostly safe

[dusk patrol]

Emperor himself give orders

[crisp heath]

MOSTLY

[arctic talon]

Terra

Is not safe

It’s hell

[stark frigate]

Not true

[arctic talon]

Literally one of the worst hive worlds

[stark frigate]

Most humans never even see terra

[arctic talon]

In the imperium

[stark frigate]

Some dont think its even real

[ocean vale]

yea tera is pretty fucked

[arctic talon]

Terra is a literal warzone rn

[stark frigate]

Not true either

[dusk patrol]

Tbh yeah, I think most people don’t get how much of us won the lottery already if we have the time to waste talking about this dumbass lore on a discord server.

[severe sandal]

No, terra is like modern China but mao got reinstated

[arctic talon]

Terra is worse

Then any irl city

[ocean vale]

agreed

[severe sandal]

Billions die due to constant purging

[plush mason]

it is?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

There’s potentially quadrillions of people on Terra

Not joking

[severe sandal]

They probably use live ammunition whenever there’s a slight disturbance

[stark frigate]

Where are you getting any of this

[arctic talon]

Genestealer cults, chaos cults, custodes and guardsmen

[severe sandal]

Just to control the population

[arctic talon]

All fighting

[stark frigate]

???

[celest dome]

And Gangers too

As always

[gloomy citrus]

There probably were before Horus and his gang went there.

[dusk patrol]

Especially post rift

[plush mason]

so much for "the most defended world in all the imperium"

[arctic talon]

There’s genestealers on terra lol

[severe sandal]

They don’t have a prison system, if there’s a food riot they probably just mow them all down
Millions dead, constantly

[arctic talon]

And the custodes

[dusk patrol]

It’s more populated now than ever before

[arctic talon]

Are busy fighting them

[stark frigate]

Yes i know, but there isnt nonstop fighting on terra

[arctic talon]

I mean

[dusk patrol]

There is

[arctic talon]

There is

[stark frigate]

Since when

[celest dome]

Isn't there also a few Religious crusade all going on on Terra

[arctic talon]

Gang warfare

[dusk patrol]

Hives are Warzones dude

[arctic talon]

Lol

[stark frigate]

Literally never heard about this in my years of 40k

[dusk patrol]

They even say it in this game

[severe sandal]

Terra is in a perpetual state of starvation and religious brawls

[crisp heath]

Terra’s upper hives are the best in the Imperium

[gloomy citrus]

Krieg surely was.

[severe sandal]

Food riots happen 24/7 all across the planet

[dusk patrol]

There’s literal wars fought in the towers of the Administratum on Terra over paper and ink supplies

[arctic talon]

Not really grapes cost a ton lol

[ocean vale]

thats upper hive tho

[dusk patrol]

Like major wars

[stark frigate]

I know that, I meant terra

[dusk patrol]

Yes I know

[arctic talon]

I’d rather live on another hive world

[dusk patrol]

Literal wars between scribes over ink and paper

[stark frigate]

Why have i never heard about any of this

[arctic talon]

^

[gloomy citrus]

But also the most vulnerable if there are artillery batteries outside the city.

[arctic talon]

They’re in books

[dusk patrol]

It’s just fluff mostly

[stark frigate]

Which ones??

[dusk patrol]

We don’t get it expanded on

[crisp heath]

Okay but Terra’s entire surface is hive, so therefore the entire planet is upper hive

[severe sandal]

Because 40k is so large and hive cities can differ so greatly

There are probably hive cities that are better than any of our current living conditions
on the lowest levels

[urban spire]

i don't believe terra has a concept of "outside the city" at this point

[stark frigate]

Terra is a city

[dusk patrol]

Almost all of Terra is a city, small bits of it are wasteland

[stark frigate]

At this point

[crisp heath]

40k Earth might as well be Taris

[gloomy citrus]

Terra is comparable to Coruscant, I guess.

[severe sandal]

Imagine living on the lower level of a hive and seeing friendly, non corrupt police officers casually patrolling the clean streets without a gun, since it’s so safe that they really only exist to solve arguments

[dusk knot]

Isn’t the emperors palace on a bit of land

[dusk patrol]

They have a section setup in the Marianas Trench for example

[arctic talon]

Gimme a bit

[dusk patrol]

It’s a continent

A good section of East Asia

[dusk knot]

I wonder which one

[stark frigate]

His palace is in the Himalayas

[dusk knot]

Ah

[arctic talon]

Vaults of Terra

[severe sandal]

It’s the entire Himalayan’s

[arctic talon]

Mention

[dusk patrol]

On the Himalayas

[arctic talon]

The constant fighting

So do the dark imperium books

[severe sandal]

The emperors palace takes up the entire Himalayan mountain chain

[stark frigate]

When was it written

[arctic talon]

Literally

Recently

[stark frigate]

Bizarre

[arctic talon]

2017

[odd palm]

Less outside the city and more so the central points are the Palace, Admech independent zone, hollow mountain and some important major imperial faction fortresses

[urban spire]

everest is the scholastica psykana for some reason

[severe sandal]

On Mount Everest was the throne constructed

I thought Everest is the foundation for the inner place/throne room

[stark frigate]

The throne was found, not constructed

[crisp heath]

Carrion Throne really doesn’t give me the vibe Earth is at war

[severe sandal]

You get what I mean I’m not retarded

[stark frigate]

Never said you were

I want some more lore on the throne

[arctic talon]

Also @stark frigate Dawn of Fire

Also mentions a literal war

[crisp heath]

If anything it’s like Night City, not Fallujah

[stark frigate]

Is it ever mentioned who made it

[arctic talon]

Between scribes

Over stuff

[severe sandal]

It’s some weird chair that has incredible manipulative abilities on the warp

[dusk patrol]

It’s hard to stress how insane the gang conflicts get

[atomic pelican]

Weee the Elf Chair

[severe sandal]

My guess is the throne is necron in origin

[atomic pelican]

It's Aeldari

[dusk patrol]

Like they’re small nations under the hives

[severe sandal]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the throne was a necron construct

[atomic pelican]

Considering Drukhari are contracted to work on it

[severe sandal]

Since the necrons had an unparalleled ability to manipulate the warp

[crisp heath]

-under- the hives

Earth is huge and the underhive isn’t the whole throneworld

[odd palm]

Regents shadow does

[arctic talon]

^

also Dawn of Fire

has a literal war between scribes

because of paper

[odd palm]

Lmao

[dusk patrol]

Like, it’s clear you’re just gonna keep deflecting and aren’t willing to listen to people citing actual lore

[arctic talon]

they don't have enough paper to meet their quotas

[severe sandal]

Mfw only 89 million people died on holy terra over the past 12 hours (lowest it’s been in centuries)

[stark frigate]

Why does guilliman not comment on the constant fighting on terra

Or have i not found any quotes

[arctic talon]

not big enough

to give a shit about

Or are we talking about the custodes vs GSC stuff

since we literally got a boxset

about that

[severe sandal]

Because he doesn’t want to get involved, he can’t do anything

[arctic talon]

^

[severe sandal]

Not even gulliman could organize holy terra

[crisp heath]

Okay but that’s immediately post Lion’s Gate

[severe sandal]

Too many people, too built up

[dusk patrol]

So I’m not gonna bother trying to convince anymore, but there’s countless examples of the lament being in war across multiple levels

[crisp heath]

‘Now’ in 40k is post indomitus crusade

[dusk patrol]

It got worse after the Rift formed

But it was and before too

[severe sandal]

It would take centuries and the slaughter of hundreds of billions of people to fix holy terra

[odd palm]

But yeah Regents Shadow, a Dawn of Fire novel, The Hollow Mountain and Dark City all depict Terra in civil war post rift

[dusk patrol]

Which we see in the Vaults of Terra series

[gloomy citrus]

He really has only one quote regarding the Imperium in the 41st Millenium. Saying that Horus winning would have probably been better.

[dusk patrol]

And later in Watchers too

[vocal drum]

guys in game that machine tha heals u, can it heal u lore wise from anything even like if u had covid?

[urban spire]

terra had a 30 day warp storm when the rift formed right?

[stark frigate]

Man thats depressing

[dusk patrol]

I think it was like 60 days or six months tbh

[severe sandal]

Imagine a hive fleet invaded terra

Gaunt: “BIOMASS!”
Populace: “FOOD!”

[dusk patrol]

It was a long time

[severe sandal]

Lobster for dinner tonight!

[urban spire]

must have been a lot of corruption there then

[arctic talon]

On one side there are scribes from the lower levels of the tower. Desperate to meet the quotas but never provided enough fresh paper to do so. On the other are the furnace operators who need to burn the paper in order to power the tower.

[gloomy citrus]

The Inquisition turned the Big E into a God, which was the exact thing he was trying to prevent.

[arctic talon]

thats the fight

in Dawn of Fire

over paper

[vocal drum]

https://i.imgur.com/ttZXorB.jpeg these things btw

[arctic talon]

servitors

[stark frigate]

Yes, ive see his other quotes and opinions of the imperium

[arctic talon]

lobotimzed people

[vocal drum]

can they heall anything lore wise?

[stark frigate]

Big E is pretty much senile now

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[stark frigate]

Depends

[arctic talon]

they prolly just pump you full of combat drugs mostly

and some healing

[dusk patrol]

Not really clear but it can probably do an ok job if you find the right one.

[arctic talon]

but they can't fully heal us like in game

[stark frigate]

If you're missing your head or certain wounds or voruses, probably not

[arctic talon]

^

[hearty bluff]

Dunno if they'd be able to heal you with having an axe in your spine

[arctic talon]

It can prolly seal cuts and stuff

[urban spire]

they can heal whatever poison is down in tertium at least

[stark frigate]

They cant fix a poxwalker, for example

Those guys are fucked

[severe sandal]

If we lobotomized 3% of holy terra and turned them into servitors we would increase the productive capabilities of terra by 274748474%

[gloomy citrus]

The favourite tool of the Emperor's Children, then.

[arctic talon]

tbf a poxwalker

[dusk patrol]

Underhive healing Servitors probably aren’t exactly uh

Amazing

[crisp heath]

His psyche is all over space and time now IMO, too fragmented and narrow sighted

[arctic talon]

is like

a daemonic zombie

[stark frigate]

Poor bastard

[arctic talon]

so

shit sucks lol

[stark frigate]

They're people

[severe sandal]

He’s basically a vegetable

[vocal drum]

what if u had a broken leg

[stark frigate]

Were* people

[arctic talon]

the disease

is daemonic

[stark frigate]

Easy enough

[severe sandal]

He’s just a entity, with no real consciousness

[arctic talon]

in nature

is my point

[crisp heath]

Not senile but not exactly human anymore

[arctic talon]

there's no real cure

[crisp heath]

He definitely speaks at times

[arctic talon]

for that disease

[stark frigate]

Type in proper sentences

[urban spire]

the servitor can't cure a broken leg, it could probably splint it and pump you full of painkillers though

[odd palm]

Broken leg huh? Why not get a cybernetic. Clearly the flesh is weak. Smh

[arctic talon]

no

I type however I want

[stark frigate]

Fair enough

[arctic talon]

lol

[dusk patrol]

Can’t

Tell

Him

What

To

Do

[hearty bluff]

That had to be the best argument I've ever seen on the internet.

[dusk patrol]

[severe sandal]

No.

[crisp heath]

I liken the Emperor to having one eye looking through a scope at the whole galaxy, and while he can do miracles where he sees, he cannot see much

[severe sandal]

Not the sassy nurglet

[gloomy citrus]

Damn it Typhus.

[severe sandal]

Despite gazing upon you with both his eyes for the past 17 minutes, you still have no bitches

[urban spire]

love 40k: mechanicus so much

[vocal drum]

guys my friend at work wsa talking about orcs how they can think of anything and its true how would that even work ??

[severe sandal]

Some miracles may never happen

[crisp heath]

Are you just trolling now?

[severe sandal]

Yep

[arctic talon]

They need somthing functional

initally

its like reality lube

Like the gun that would explode after 2 shots

[dusk patrol]

It appears my search cogitator is malfunctioning, since it seems it cannot locate any fucks to give about your opinion.

[arctic talon]

works like a gun

Instead of just blowing up

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

an ork cannot pick up a stick

[celest dome]

Tolerance lowerer

[arctic talon]

and turn it into a rifle

[severe sandal]

Preach, priest, PREACH

[arctic talon]

an ork can however use a pistol with half its internals broken regarding heat regulation

[crisp heath]

Can or can’t?

[arctic talon]

and fire perfectly fine

[crisp heath]

Orks are like mages from the World of Darkness. Things work because they’re supposed to, not because they work

[urban spire]

i want to play a tech priest in darktide so bad

[vocal drum]

i thouight the wow universe was insane the 40k is crazy

[dusk knot]

:error_404: bitches not found

[dusk patrol]

Here’s hoping we get the archetype

[crisp heath]

Need Techpriest, Arbiter, and maybe a Ratling

[plush mason]

:error damn not found:

[crisp heath]

Nice thing is they can add classes easy with the dialogue system

[dusk patrol]

Unfortunately they’ve more or less said it’s unlikely we get a Ratling or squat due to the level design

It’s not made for manlets

[plush mason]

this is still the best line in all of mechanicus imo

[crisp heath]

Fair, too OP to snipe as a ratling

[dusk patrol]

They had to design VT levels for Bardin specifically

[vocal drum]

is that guy strong?

[crisp heath]

Problem is other classes wont have many iconic weapons left

[dusk patrol]

Tech Priest could tbh

Omnissiah Axe

[crisp heath]

I guess a volkite gun or power axe for techpriest

[dusk patrol]

Grav weapons maybe

[crisp heath]

Grav too

[severe sandal]

I would love to see a heretech as a playable class

[crisp heath]

Grav more common

[gloomy citrus]

I don't see Omegon anywhere.

[fleet zenith]

Sister of BAttle with Meltas or Heavy bolter

[arctic talon]

what level of Heretek lol

[dusk patrol]

Grav weapons do seem extreme for rejects like us but

[arctic talon]

guy who fucked with an STC

[dusk patrol]

Tbh idc

[arctic talon]

or guy who shoved a daemon

[severe sandal]

Higher level heretek getting access to combat servitors

[arctic talon]

into a machine

not happening prolly

[crisp heath]

SoB probably will be a customization for zealot

[arctic talon]

^agreed

SoB is 100% gona be a cosmetic

Prolly sister novitate

stuff

[dusk patrol]

I thinks a Crusader is more likely

[severe sandal]

Imagine a beginner techpriest who did heresy

[crisp heath]

Crusader male female sob

[severe sandal]

Not full bionics but somewhat mechanical

[fleet zenith]

SOb as Cosmetics? :((( no sister squad purging everything

[severe sandal]

Overtime as you level up you get more and more modifications

And access to combat servitors

So you can use NPCs to help fight

[crisp heath]

Lol nope one ult is a suicide skull

[severe sandal]

Like a servitors with swords for arms, or given a heavy stubber, or a heavy flamer

[arctic talon]

Zealot already fills the niche

[agile copper]

Damn.. that speaks to me more than my psyker level 30

Would love to play that

[severe sandal]

Tactical ability would be a servoskull that acts as a seeking missile lol

[crisp heath]

Zealot already has the special stuff

For sob

Flamers, eviscerators, etc

[severe sandal]

Techpriest could be added as a tech/NPC specialist

[dusk patrol]

They’ll probably have gear which resembles Repentia for Zealot

[severe sandal]

Used NPC combat servitors to help fight enemies, can deploy things like turrets, hack quicker/easier, etc

[dusk patrol]

Since it could work for male or female

[stark frigate]

Too versitile

Whats stopping people from running 4 in a group

Needs drawbacks

Or less positives

[crisp heath]

Better to always run fours lol

Popopop them heads

Charge boi sync

[severe sandal]

Well, you can’t get new ones when they die

You can repair them but that costs the ranged weapon slot, and it has limited repair uses

[crisp heath]

Friendly AI would be so fun

[severe sandal]

And you really want to pick a npc servitors with a heavy stubber over a player who’s an ogryn?

[crisp heath]

Games like this always miss that

[stark frigate]

I think the servoskull could do passive things, or maybe an aoe stun, maybe a feat which improves weapons handling/more nearby in coherency

[severe sandal]

With said player having more health and being better

[severe sandal]

Servoskull flies over to a region, doing an AOE that stuns people

[stark frigate]

Possibly

[severe sandal]

Like the psyker ability but with no damage

Or very minimal damage

[ocean vale]

any ogg enjoyers?

[stark frigate]

Im trying to think of a way the techpriest would work in the current team composition without making the others inferior

And not be OP

So i think making them a support focus would fit

[severe sandal]

Using friendly NPC servitors is one way

[stark frigate]

Since theres no support reject

[stark frigate]

Too much

Servoskull, yes, servitor, no

May as well have a 5th bot, ruins cohesion and balance

[urban spire]

tech priest with a radium carbine; it's not like it's going to make the hive any worse

[stark frigate]

That would be neat

Skitarii weapons for techpriest

[severe sandal]

Max of two, and unless you want them to die out midway through the game you gotta sacrifice rangers abilities to take on repair claws/tools

[stark frigate]

[stark frigate]

No

No servitors