#40k-lore-chat

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scenic sun
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shame the Votann that stores it takes 46 years to load it

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secondary enemy force is most likely genestealers

quasi wagon
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Yeah tyranids with gene stealers makes the most sense

scenic sun
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one of the announcments for the mourningstar goes like "Xeno activity detected in the underhives."

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"Send strike team to scout"

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soooo...

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: )

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doubt the Tau, the eldar or the orks are skulking down there

quasi wagon
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And then you have to call in Blood Angels Terminators. Because gene stealers to stronk

onyx hazel
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...which means we get to play as blood angel terminators? :)

scenic sun
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you mean the deathwing company of the dark angels?

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cause there's a game for that...

quasi wagon
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Yeah i have played the game

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But i like darktide more

scenic sun
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same

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but no need for terminators, a genestealer cult is mostly consisted of low level grunts

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that have mining equipment or really bad gear, soo

next sluice
atomic pelican
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GSC also have purestrains

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Who eat through terminators

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Same as the ones on space hulks

quasi wagon
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I mean, we are basically playing heroes who are allowed to wield bolters. Inquisitorial helpers are even known for taking down chaos marines.

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We are not the average rank and file solider

atomic pelican
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Tbf having a bolter isn't really that big of a deal

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Regular guardsmen can be issued bolters

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It's just not really practical logistically, so you only see them carried by like, squad leads or such

quasi wagon
scenic sun
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Meh, bolters are an elite weapon

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Either way

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You don't give that to an idiot, or lowly grunt

tall hinge
stark frigate
atomic pelican
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Yeee

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GSC Neophyte leads can also get bolt pistols which is rather hilarious

stark frigate
normal stream
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Literally look at what the 40k TT inquisitor acolytes can take

stark frigate
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I do love how unwieldy, loud and uncontrollable the bolter is, its funny seeing people who don't know 40k lore complain about it

normal stream
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We're not really any different from them

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At some level we start getting called acolytes instead of convicts too, IIRC

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Full squad of Inquisitorial henchmen with storm bolters is big dakka dakka

stark frigate
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Spoilers> || we become acolyte/operatives for the inquisitor, but we're basically a private army for them at that point, less expendable than a regular guardsman though||

stark frigate
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🤔

normal stream
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Yep

stark frigate
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Neuron activation

normal stream
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My inquisitorial warband had henchmen with storm bolters

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Coteaz + 2 plascannon servitors + 2 jokaero

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During the droppod spam era

minor lance
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Give us 4 melta guns and a plague marine, just so I can get a class of SM stan tears

odd palm
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I mean in a couple books you see inquisitors with a few squads to several companies in strength of guardsmen equivalent or superior, in terms of grunts at their disposal

stark frigate
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I just realised in a mission

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Theres no Dreg bomber

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every enemy has a dreg/scab variant except the bomber

odd palm
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🤔

storm jungle
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to be fair

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throwing bombs like that motherfucker takes talent

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my guy is literally in the major leagues

odd palm
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True

storm jungle
stark frigate
odd palm
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Might be desync or my connection, but sometimes that grenade follows me ‘round corners.
Got some tech built into their weapon XD

alpine ingot
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Scab bomber lost all his money in crypto so he joined a plague cult to escape paying off his debts.

normal stream
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When they can literally just requisition entire regiments

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Heck, even politely demand space marines

odd palm
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Yeah, neither. They are beholden to no one save the throne and they undertake some of the most perilous tasks.
Why wouldn’t they command an army to help them complete some of the most vital jobs

arctic talon
stark frigate
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good point

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hope theyre in the game on launch

normal stream
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Does Grendyl strike you guys as Hereticus or Malleus?

stark frigate
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Malleus

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They havent done anything heretical or extremist yet as an Ordo Xenos

harsh sage
dusk patrol
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It’s Hereticus

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They say it outright in the game

stark frigate
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oh really?

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i mixed it up then

dusk patrol
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It’s mostly a cult anyways

stark frigate
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Either way, i dont think theyve done anything extremist yet

dusk patrol
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Malleus and Hereticus tend to have some crossover

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But Malleus is typically more uh

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Advanced cases

normal stream
stark frigate
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If they were an extremist, we'd all be executed

harsh sage
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Malleus is both more advanced and also more covert.

stark frigate
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but theyre using us

normal stream
dusk patrol
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There’s some lines from some of the characters

harsh sage
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They tend to use Grey Knights and other smaller groups. Ordinary humans get mind scrubbed or servitors when its direct daemon dealing.

stark frigate
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If malleus are more advanced and covert, explains why the inquisitor is hiding his identity and having his retinue give us orders

harsh sage
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Hereticus have the largest forces.

dusk patrol
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We’re also not really fighting daemons

crisp heath
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Hes got impeccable drip

stark frigate
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yet

dusk patrol
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We’re combating a cult

crisp heath
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Our inquisitor I mean

stark frigate
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We've fought 2 Daemons actually

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The one with the big eye and the literal shambling abomination

dusk patrol
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Yeah but we’re mostly fighting a cult

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the daemons are a side effect of them

crisp heath
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I'm hoping we get to do missions in the noble houses as we work to identify which families (if any) were conspiring with daemons

dusk patrol
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There’s almost always some crossover between Malleus and Hereticus

normal stream
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I wonder if Grendyl is actually even present on the Mourningstar

stark frigate
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Theres also this achievement with no explanation and noones gotten it yet...

image.png
dusk patrol
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But Malleus is like

storm jungle
dusk patrol
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More obvious stuff

normal stream
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Oi, spoilers

harsh sage
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Its definitely a hereticus level threat. When reality is warping and there's an overwhelming amount of daemons, that's Malleus.

crisp heath
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Ob shit are we gonna fight a Daemonhost?????

storm jungle
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We assume so

normal stream
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kek

stark frigate
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noone knows really

dusk patrol
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There’s leaked lines and stuff

storm jungle
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there was a file leak during the first beta

crisp heath
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That fucking rocks

storm jungle
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yeee

dusk patrol
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And sound effects

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I think the soundtrack too

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Probably one of the final bosses

crisp heath
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Wow this is the cool chat should've just looked here instead of general when I joined

dusk patrol
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The last area seems to be the upper hive too

storm jungle
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do not look at general-chat

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at all

crisp heath
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I would expect the Daemonhost to have seduced nobles

storm jungle
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Literally just endless complaints, spam, etc

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we all ignore it unless someone needs to get their head kicked in KEK

stark frigate
crisp heath
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Eisenhorn was deffo a great read before this came out

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Love those books

dusk patrol
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So I suspect that the final stretch for the story we might be directly taking orders from Grendyl and rooting out higher ranking members of the Atoma nobility

stark frigate
normal stream
crisp heath
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Spent like 100$ on a physical copy lol

stark frigate
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so much misinformation and pointless complaints

storm jungle
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yeah it gets tiring

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and it has slow mode

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imagine it without it

stark frigate
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"where update" KEKW_ogryn

stark frigate
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I recently got the final 4th Eisenhorn omnibus

crisp heath
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I played like 69 hours of vt2 and about 20 on VT so I was very pogged for this one

stark frigate
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Wish Cains omnibus's were easier to get

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I got book 1 - 13 for Tanith first and only too, off ebay

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£50

crisp heath
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There's a 4th? staregryn

stark frigate
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yes staregryn

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Let me get its name for you

crisp heath
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I thought there was just 1 omnibus

normal stream
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I wish it was easier to get older prints - I missed out on some of the <x>blade superheavy series

crisp heath
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And it had Xenos Malleus and Hereticus

normal stream
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And the new guard 'dex gives me serious treadhead fervor

dusk patrol
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Nah GG has like four or five

harsh sage
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There's two more series after that

dusk patrol
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Technically not done yet

crisp heath
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Fuck

harsh sage
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Ravenor, and the lady

normal stream
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Don't forget the other Sabbat World books, too

stark frigate
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Omnibus 1 - Xenos
Omnibus 2 - Malleus
Omnibus 3 - Hereticus
Omnibus 4 - The Magos

crisp heath
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Live me eisenhorn though

normal stream
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Ooh I need to read the magos

crisp heath
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Oh nice there's a Magos

harsh sage
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Abnett is a brilliant writer for 40k. Easily my favorite.

crisp heath
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Hes quite good

stark frigate
crisp heath
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Bless

normal stream
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Of all the 40k games released, DT has probably nailed the lore the best

harsh sage
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I know! It was one of the things I was excited about with this game.

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It has, definitely.

stark frigate
normal stream
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(Well, all the modern ones, at least.)

harsh sage
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Between this and Rogue Trader we're getting a gluttony of good games

normal stream
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The old ones like OG Chaos Gate were pretty solid, lore-wise.

stark frigate
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Mechanicus was another good one

harsh sage
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Daemonhunters was also excellent

stark frigate
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i hope Chaos gate and rogue trader are good too

normal stream
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Oh Mechanicus was pretty solid too.

stark frigate
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Im excited for Roguetrader

crisp heath
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Can't wait to get the hat for my zealot he's gonna look so dumb in it

harsh sage
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Chaos Gate I mean. Definitely worth playing but damn was it hard.

normal stream
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I never tried CG2:Daemonhunters, the X-Com-style gameplay didn't quite appeal as much to me

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It also looked.. too cartoony

stark frigate
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i get you

harsh sage
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It has a bit of the cartoon going on, but its got a great plot.

normal stream
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Does it?

stark frigate
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Roguetrader looks really promising

normal stream
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The plot didn't look like anything more than "mortarion doing shit go clean it up"

crisp heath
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I think I never really got into warhammer because of the general experience I had with VT 1 and 2

normal stream
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Who wrote the story for that one? In-house writer or BL?

harsh sage
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The inquisitor involvement was good

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Also the latest update added dreadnoughts

normal stream
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I saw that

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Tech priest + dreads, I might finally be convinced

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haha

stark frigate
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garbo

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Waiting for Warhammer: Old World

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i want to fight in the honor of the lady

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😔

normal stream
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I'm nervous for Rogue Trader

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But I've faith

harsh sage
stark frigate
harsh sage
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Once you get used to the art style

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This game pretty as

normal stream
harsh sage
stark frigate
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World of warcraft ass..

normal stream
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I also didn't like the dev interviews for CG2: DH

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They just sounded so..

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stick up their asses

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lol

storm jungle
stark frigate
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IKR

normal stream
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I always have this thought that how devs talk about their game translates to how they handle it

harsh sage
stark frigate
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daemon primarch fearing a normal human?

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clueless Come on now

harsh sage
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Nah, misreading that

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The daemon is Kadex. Its trying to divide the crew

stark frigate
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I see

harsh sage
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Its talking to the inquisitor and corrupting her, because the grey knights on board are a half breath from executing her at this point

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Ah!

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The writer was the Helsreach writer

stark frigate
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Which comic has GK straight up kill an inquisitor

harsh sage
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Aaron Dembski-Bowden

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So, have faith. Its well written.

stark frigate
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Alright, knee jerk reaction on my part

harsh sage
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No biggie, its a fair call on that screenshot without context

tawdry escarp
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Daemon Hunter is a banger of a game

crisp heath
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I found an actually good variant of Lucius lasgun

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In a Game

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It shoots and charges really fast , dotn feel bulky , uses shity infantry version iron signs , but , but , it actually hits shit

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And you can kill people and specials with it

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Surprisingly easily

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In fact I killed 6 reapers with it on malice

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…. How tf comes that Krieg officers get better lasguns then infantry since … you know

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They are Krieg

storm jungle
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In the army you use what you get

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no complaints lol

stark frigate
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Sorry, jumped by a horde mid sentance

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If you only charge it, it fires as fast as a infantry rifle in WW1

crisp heath
stark frigate
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and krieg are WW1 themed

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  • it has a bayonet
stark frigate
storm jungle
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they arent suicidal idiots

stark frigate
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^

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Dont believe memes you see about 40k

crisp heath
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I’ve read “dead walking”

stark frigate
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yes they may be vitae womb created and have numbers instead of names, but they arent depressed suicidal idiots

storm jungle
crisp heath
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And I can swear there was such moment in there

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Or was it one of main characters

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Dotn remember

storm jungle
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using WW1 tactics against futuristic egyptian robots doesnt get you too far

stark frigate
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Their first instinct wouldnt be "charge enemy lines, bayonets affixed" basically

storm jungle
stark frigate
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It's a last resort

storm jungle
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i wish people remembered krieg like

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you know

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use artillery

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and tanks

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and guns

stark frigate
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Alot

storm jungle
stark frigate
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They fucking love artilley

dusk patrol
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And are human

crisp heath
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I know I know I just … I just don’t get it , there was an version for assault troops which had better signs but in generally was same shit, and then

storm jungle
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my guy

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they are just baseline soldiers

stark frigate
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Oh you're a traitor and wont surrender? bombard their city
Oh you surrender? bombard their city
Oh you literally cannot even reply anymore? bombard their city
The city doesnt exist anymore? perfect

dusk patrol
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Dead Men Walking was all about them using pretty cold grim calculus to save as much time as they could.

storm jungle
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this is like a U.S Marine complaining he doesnt get anything aside from an M4

crisp heath
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I just bought that lasgun out of sadness upon I failed to buy an legendary autogun and …

stark frigate
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They canonically bombarded a city until it didnt exist anymore

crisp heath
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It litterally took me by suprise how better it was compared to predecessors

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It’s like

stark frigate
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Autoguns got buffed

dusk patrol
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Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

crisp heath
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… it’s like an actually good variant of luter patter

crisp heath
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Was it fixed ? Or I found good version of it ?

crisp heath
stark frigate
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yep

dusk patrol
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I got no clue, I'm too busying playing a superior class

stark frigate
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All autoguns buffed by +50%

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believe it or not

crisp heath
stark frigate
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was in the detailed patchnotes

crisp heath
stark frigate
dusk patrol
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In my experience the average guard player isn't capable of saving themselves

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Let alone me.

crisp heath
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In my experience usual guard player is unable to play aggressively

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I do

stark frigate
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I'd rather get physical, but i may bite the bullet and buy the kindle version

stark frigate
dusk patrol
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No no its ok, ignore the shield, just w key forward, no why would you bother shooting the gunners and snipers and reapers, yeah definitely you should definitely charge in there and go melee the ragers. Good plan.

crude frost
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when update?

dusk patrol
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Already happened

crude frost
stark frigate
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no new mission rotations though (except one from closed beta) sadge

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Also the barber works now

dusk patrol
stark frigate
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1

crude frost
stark frigate
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and its not new tehcnically

dusk patrol
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Next one is tommorrow

stark frigate
crisp heath
stark frigate
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They need to reword the schedule/roadmap then

dusk patrol
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No

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Its two new maps

stark frigate
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elaborate

dusk patrol
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Well "new"

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Idk about the second

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First was today

crude frost
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closed beta maps

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not new

dusk patrol
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Second is tomorrow

stark frigate
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^

crude frost
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when new maps

dusk patrol
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Uh

stark frigate
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next week

crude frost
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when 7th mission type

dusk patrol
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Still new

stark frigate
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shrug probably

dusk patrol
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We don't know

crude frost
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when game become good?

dusk patrol
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But thats the update

crisp heath
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They returned factory and added in / changed some parts in it

stark frigate
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If youre tired of it, wait until release or next week

dusk patrol
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I assume the same time you start asking questions outside of lore chat.

crisp heath
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For example they added a lot of decoration and

crude frost
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oh fuuck

stark frigate
crisp heath
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Is it jus time or they changed few corridors

crude frost
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wrong chat sorry guys

dusk patrol
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This is how they said it would go

stark frigate
crude frost
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was wondering why there was no slow mode oops#

inland mist
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"Game bad! Has bugs!"
Says the guy complaining about the beta in the lore channel of all places.

arctic talon
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Lol

crude frost
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i do most humbly apologise

stark frigate
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Is the barber from Krieg

arctic talon
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No

stark frigate
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im going insane

arctic talon
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He just has a funny name

stark frigate
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German accent, wears gasmask

arctic talon
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And voice

stark frigate
dusk patrol
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Believe it or not

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There are more space germans in 40k who aren't from Krieg

arctic talon
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And other areas

stark frigate
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i know im joking

dusk patrol
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Krieg barely has a german thing to it anyways

stark frigate
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Armageddon dont have german accents though

dusk patrol
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Its mostly just the name

arctic talon
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French French French French

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There’s 1 guy in the helsreach Audio books

stark frigate
arctic talon
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With a German ish accent

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Iirc

crisp heath
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Krieg is pretty much general look of ww 1 soldier

stark frigate
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German helmet and mask
British leggings
French coat

dusk patrol
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Armageddon is sometimes depicted with a german deal

crisp heath
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Not German

dusk patrol
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Also sometimes russian

crisp heath
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It’s Adrian

arctic talon
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Mask is British iirc

harsh sage
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Armageddon gets mentioned

arctic talon
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Or

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Wait nvm

stark frigate
dusk patrol
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Well yeah

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I mean culture

arctic talon
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Morrow is from Armageddon

dusk patrol
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And accents and shit

arctic talon
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Which is fun

harsh sage
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Pour one out for Yarrick guys

stark frigate
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Also take a look at this german cavalryman

crisp heath
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Armageddon is pretty much wermacht

stark frigate
dusk patrol
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Although sometimes GW remembers these places are fucking planets

stark frigate
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Slap a gasmask onto the horse

dusk patrol
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And they can have more than one accent

stark frigate
dusk patrol
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Rarely

stark frigate
harsh sage
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I am waiting for Ghazhgkull to find out Yarrick is dead

dusk patrol
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But sometimes GW subverts the planet of hats trope.

stark frigate
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Always seen Steel Legion as American

harsh sage
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Big green gonna go apeshit

dusk patrol
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Uh

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Have you seen Steel Legion art?

stark frigate
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yes

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Screams American

dusk patrol
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They're 100% WWII Germans

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Its not subtle

stark frigate
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African campaign germans maybe?

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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They even use Blitzkrieg tactics

stark frigate
crisp heath
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Google German paratroopers ww 2 and you get dudes with same helmet

stark frigate
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i prefer Krieg, but steel legion cream coats look dashing

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i LOVE tallarn

dusk patrol
stark frigate
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Id kill for a tallarn refresh

crisp heath
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Agreed

stark frigate
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the barber just scratched his arse and sniffed it

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im not kidding

crisp heath
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Also

stark frigate
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Anyway

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Tallarn my beloved

crisp heath
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Is it just me or , do y’all think there will be an battle pass and shit

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In a Game

arctic talon
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No

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Also wrong chat

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Lul

stark frigate
crisp heath
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Fair

arctic talon
stark frigate
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I do hope they incorperate Amazon prime/twitch prime rewards more though

crisp heath
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I just got such thoughts after new trailer

stark frigate
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I REALLY hope the veteran gets cosmetics based on different Regiments

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if they dont, ill be very upset

dusk patrol
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There's already some twitch stuff

stark frigate
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First one would be cadian, second probably krieg because of newish models

stark frigate
arctic talon
stark frigate
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its not cadian coloured

arctic talon
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Fair enough

stark frigate
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but yes, its classic cadian armor design

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most of it anyway

arctic talon
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There’s a bit

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On the legs and chest

stark frigate
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its mostly the chest piece, shoulders and boots which are classic cadian design

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I just hope they make Regiment cosmetics for the Veteran

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I'm completely willing to spend a lot on a full krieg outfit

arctic talon
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Gimme Elysian

stark frigate
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gimme Tallarn

arctic talon
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Or Indigan Praefects

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They even got a regimental doctrine thingy in the new codex

stark frigate
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Tanith first and only may be a sure bet of it being added, what with Dan Abnett helping with lore

severe trout
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Is Morrow steel legion? He's got like a gasmasky thing on his belt

arctic talon
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lol

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True

stark frigate
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if theres no tanith cosmetic or reference, ill be very surprised

arctic talon
stark frigate
severe trout
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Neat!

arctic talon
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He mentions giving the target

stark frigate
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Sergeant major

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In the steel legion

arctic talon
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“the old steel legion hello”

severe trout
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Is there like a platoon of steel legion hanging around on the morningstar or something, wonder why morrow's still steel legion and in the inquisition?

arctic talon
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If you have higher trust

arctic talon
severe trout
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oh!

arctic talon
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According to diolague

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I’d assume he got recruited to the retinue

stark frigate
arctic talon
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He just stays in his steel legion gear

stark frigate
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Mustard coat and gasmask

severe trout
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gosh I hope we get veteran regimental outfits

harsh sage
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Gimme that look

crisp heath
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I think moebian armor may come as cosmetic aswell

arctic talon
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There’s a chance

stark frigate
harsh sage
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Gib gib

arctic talon
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Some of the members of the warband

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Were part of whatever morrow was commanding

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Before they got lost in the warp lmao

crisp heath
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Yup

stark frigate
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Oh yeah, there's dialogue implying Marrow is really fucking old

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but got lost in a warp storm

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He remembered Hades Hive, with Yarrick

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which was AGES ago by this point

arctic talon
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He got rejuvinats

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Prolly

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He’s valuable to grendyl I’d assume

stark frigate
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The same dialogue mentions warp storms

crisp heath
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how old is grendyl then

harsh sage
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Poor Yarrick. Gonna miss him.

stark frigate
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So he may have gotten lost and when he came back, his men may have died of old age

crisp heath
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like 300?

arctic talon
stark frigate
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so he has noone to command

arctic talon
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Rejuvinats start having issues around 600+

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Years old

severe trout
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do guardsmen do the stud thing on the head denoting years of service?

crisp heath
#

love the Circle of Trust VI cutscene

arctic talon
#

Hadron is a pretty going 300

arctic talon
#

That’s a marine only thing

severe trout
#

Ah!

stark frigate
#

The second war for Armageddon, involving Hades hive, was in 941.M41
it is currently 111.M42

arctic talon
#

Holy fuck

#

He’s old lol

stark frigate
#

so it was 160 years ago

#

170*

arctic talon
#

Rannick is prolly older

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Then him

crisp heath
#

Tho

arctic talon
#

Idk about grendyl

stark frigate
crisp heath
#

He looks like 60

#

do you think we'll ever get promoted out of the warband?

arctic talon
stark frigate
#

normal humans live normal lengths, important people and commanding officers get special treatments to live longer

arctic talon
stark frigate
#

a normal human like you or me, would die in our 50s in 40k

arctic talon
#

We need to do somthing really standout

crisp heath
stark frigate
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Important people get special treatment

arctic talon
#

^

stark frigate
#

If youre a nobody, working in a mine

crisp heath
stark frigate
#

yeah no

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dying at like 60

arctic talon
#

Rejuvinats are only for the rich

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Or officers

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Or inqusitors

crisp heath
#

Eisenhorn was over 300 I thought

arctic talon
#

Yeah

stark frigate
#

Krieg soldiers also think being old is cowardly

arctic talon
#

Due to rejuvinats

stark frigate
#

You dont think your life is worth enough to die for the emperor? pathetic

crisp heath
#

wasn't his buddy scribe like 400?

stark frigate
#

And they hate medals

arctic talon
#

Rejuvinats keep people healthy up till they’re around 600-700

#

Anything older

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And they begin having issues

stark frigate
#

of course he got the good stuff to live longer

arctic talon
#

The fact Hadron is 300

#

Is funny

stark frigate
#

Tech priests can live for thousands of years

#

Cawl spoke to Guilliman during the heresy

harsh sage
#

Cawl is 10k+

arctic talon
#

They go insane after a few thousand

#

Caw is the exception

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

To the rule

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Or rather

#

One of few exceptions

stark frigate
#

Cybernetic enhancements are one hell of a drug

arctic talon
#

It’s hard to stay sane

#

After a few thousand years

#

Cawl is def a bit more

stark frigate
#

all our characters in the game, will die in their 60s or 70s

#

we're nobodies

arctic talon
#

Eccentric now

arctic talon
stark frigate
arctic talon
#

We might get a few low quality rejuvinat treatments

stark frigate
#

what a quirky guy

arctic talon
#

And that’s it

crisp heath
stark frigate
#

no

arctic talon
#

There are “lower” quality

stark frigate
#

You are expendable

#

you are a weapon

arctic talon
#

Rejuvinat treatments

stark frigate
#

you are a resource

arctic talon
#

Still expensive as hell

stark frigate
#

a human life is worthless

arctic talon
#

But they’re more available

stark frigate
#

Unless you're REALLY high up

crisp heath
arctic talon
#

Then the actual expensive ones

stark frigate
#

Commisar, maybe, random veteran? no

#

you have to be really special to get those treatments to live longer to serve the emperor

crisp heath
stark frigate
#

i doubt theyre 150 though

crisp heath
stark frigate
#

And if they are, very rare cases

#

Definitely not the norm or common

#

A random guardsman is seen as a tool/weapon/resource/expendable

crisp heath
#

We’re taking age limit which person should leave through through hell to get to

stark frigate
#

if theyre not turned into a servitor

arctic talon
#

Guardsmen do retire

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tbf

crisp heath
#

Plus there was never mentioned an actual age of those people outside of fact that they are old and are veterans of guard

crisp heath
stark frigate
#

rarely

crisp heath
#

After certain years

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If they survive

arctic talon
#

Depends on the regiment

dusk patrol
#

It’s not rare

arctic talon
#

^

stark frigate
#

im just saying its not common at all, for a guardsman to live to 150, a regular guardsman

dusk patrol
#

A lot of regiments don’t see that much action or fight in relatively minor wars

#

And for guardsmen getting Juv treatments, it’s dependent on their value

#

It definitely happens

crisp heath
#

Commonly it’s minor chaotic uprising

stark frigate
#

They'd only get it if theyre very important

#

regular rank-and-file, no

crisp heath
#

Witch which even tdf capable to deal with

dusk patrol
#

Sure, but it still happens

#

Veteran guardsmen can have a lot of value

crisp heath
#

I meant , even nowdays rarely people live up to 100

dusk patrol
#

For training purposes often

crisp heath
#

Yet 110 considered natural limit of an age

#

Maximum

dusk patrol
#

Especially if they have combat experience against a uncommon threat

crisp heath
#

I belive same goes for 150 in warhammer

storm jungle
#

They really dont

stark frigate
#

A regular human does not live to 150 in 40k

storm jungle
#

^

stark frigate
#

Flat out

storm jungle
#

its all rejuv treatments

stark frigate
#

With no rejuv, you will die at around 90-100

harsh sage
#

I think like average life expectancy in the imperium even with rejuvenant is barely 30.

stark frigate
#

or in a hiveworld/factory world etc, less then 90, probably in your 50s

crisp heath
dusk patrol
#

They could but most who do are gonna be that way from Juv treatments, there’s some worlds where the genetic differences help them out.

crisp heath
stark frigate
crisp heath
#

I’m there it’s 70-80

#

50 is prison world - world of death

harsh sage
#

In the dark heresy books, if you were 35+ on a hive world you were classed as 'old'.

crisp heath
#

An bloody Kevlar have 50 as max age of person living in there if he’s really special

#

And that shit considered an dead sentence world

crisp heath
dusk patrol
#

It just depends on the world

#

And the place

crisp heath
harsh sage
#

In character creation, you roll for your character age, its broken into categories.

#

Hive worlders are old at 35.

dusk patrol
#

I know how it works for Dark Heresy I’m saying it’s not consistent

#

And also in recent years GW had moved away from that more meme stuff

#

Made it a bit less absurd

harsh sage
#

And middle to under, I believe. Amd this is also true.

dusk patrol
#

Like they soft retconned the one Calgar comic line

crisp heath
harsh sage
#

I forget I've been in this hobby since 1992.

dusk patrol
#

Where it said the life expectancy of Ultramar was like 35 or something

harsh sage
#

Hoo boy did it used to be whacky

stark frigate
dusk patrol
#

A lot of the RPG stuff for better or worse is stuck in that limbo

stark frigate
crisp heath
#

Stuff I haven’t read much of old things outside of Space marine book

dusk patrol
#

It’s only improved the setting

crisp heath
#

Old book which

stark frigate
crisp heath
#

Litterally called

#

“Space Marine”

dusk patrol
#

Ian Watson

crisp heath
#

Yup

#

So

#

Atoma prime have genocult ?

stark frigate
#

no

arctic talon
#

As far as we know no

stark frigate
#

No genestealer cult so far

arctic talon
#

Or else there would be a lot more violence

crisp heath
#

Because they seems as by far most obvious second enemy to fight with

crisp heath
#

There is an corrupt gene cults

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

Genestealer cults and Chaos do not get along well normally

#

There’s 1 single group

#

From 1 cult

#

That got corrupted

crisp heath
#

Wasn’t it whole cult and still

#

It proves that it’s possible

rustic spruce
#

how come the blood angels like making some of their helmets look like faces

dusk patrol
#

It would be easy for FS to come up with a reason why they laid low or were in a different city or whatever if the wanted GSC missions later

arctic talon
stark frigate
dusk patrol
#

But for now they’ve said they don’t want to do that I believe because Space Hulk already did it sorta

#

But tbh for me outside of a new flavor of cultist

stark frigate
#

imo i think theyd add a second chaos cult, like Tzeentch

#

Pysker enemies

dusk patrol
#

GSC is by far the most obvious choice

stark frigate
#

maybe in Darktide 2 in 5 years

rustic spruce
#

the last thing i need in a horde is some mother fucker throwing magic lightning at me

arctic talon
#

Not lightning

crisp heath
#

Also

dusk patrol
#

You could even do a whole deal about them taking power in the confusion caused by the current cult

crisp heath
#

There could be adding more enemies as fighting keeps up as part of escalation

#

I mean there was somewhat similiar case

#

Where gsc waited for good timing and then seized nearly entire continent , using chaos uprising as good cover for theyre plans

#

I personally Berger would say no killing some xeno scums aswell

stark frigate
#

taking over a continent is no small feat in 40k

#

theyd need space marines by that point

#

Dont forget, this hivecity is almost the size of a continent, and reaches into space

dusk patrol
#

Well the point of the game is we have no one else to call

stark frigate
#

there is plenty, this is just small scale

#

they could just call a nearby regiment

dusk patrol
#

No there isn’t

#

It’s literally the plot of the game

rustic spruce
#

throw them greenskin boyz into atoma

harsh sage
#

Just so long as we dont get another Nurgle game

stark frigate
#

We're the cheaper/easier option

dusk patrol
#

They have small elements of I guess local pdf or loyal guard

#

But we’re the last option

#

The Inquisitor is desperate and that’s why we’re being sent

stark frigate
#

if they had GSC, ill eat my shoe

dusk patrol
#

He’s an Inquisitor, he could call in another regiment if he had the option

harsh sage
#

She

stark frigate
#

they

#

we dont know what gender they are

harsh sage
#

The old lady with the cybereye from the trailer

stark frigate
#

thats the roguetrader

#

she owns the ship

harsh sage
#

Hrm.

stark frigate
#

that hologram head was the inquisitor

#

avoiding showing their identity

dusk patrol
#

He’s always been referred to as a he

normal stream
#

I thought it was more they were trying not to level the hive

dusk patrol
#

So until we get old otherwise

normal stream
#

Since the hive is still needed

dusk patrol
#

Just gonna call him that

stark frigate
dusk patrol
#

Well yeah Atoma Prime is a linchpin for the whole sector which is also why so much effort is being put into it

stark frigate
#

it makes extremely good Demolisher lemun russ tanks

#

its a huge asset

dusk patrol
#

If it falls all the worlds in the Moebian Domain will probably follow

stark frigate
#

less lore question but

#

how does the lightning staff work

devout meadow
stark frigate
#

more i charge, more damage?

stark frigate
#

and it mentions lemun russ's being made here

devout meadow
stark frigate
#

so i mostly put 2 and 2 together

devout meadow
arctic talon
#

Staff prolly allows the psyker to focus in

stark frigate
#

no not how it WORKS

#

i meant ingame

arctic talon
#

OH

#

left click is like

#

Short burst of lightning

#

Right click is palpatine

stark frigate
#

does more charge mean more damage

#

they need to change the force sword special attack like how they changed the chainsword

#

it got stuck in the enemy for a few seconds in Closed beta, now the time its stuck is like, halved or quartered

#

force sword is still the long timer

normal stream
#

Force sword oneshots a lot of stuff up till level 3ish 4

stark frigate
#

same for chainsword

#

but its timer was shortened

normal stream
#

I think it does more damage than the chainsword?

stark frigate
#

so youre less open to getting your shit rocked

normal stream
#

I need to check

#

But yeah

stark frigate
#

their specials feel the same

normal stream
#

The number of times I've nuked a special or elite

#

And then gotten clobbered

normal stream
stark frigate
#

The special attack 'stuck' animation, needs to be as short as the chainsword 'stuck' animation

#

fundamentally, they work the same

normal stream
#

I mean, except you also generate peril and the prep is fairly long too

stark frigate
#

Even more reason for the animation to be shortened

#

Long cast time + long stuck time

#

Chainsword is short cast time + short stuck time

normal stream
#

Yeah

dusk patrol
#

Force sword also has other benefits the chainsword doesn’t get

normal stream
#

But I'd be okay with it if it did significantly more damage than the chainsword

arctic talon
#

Bigger push

#

Is like

stark frigate
#

i need to check

dusk patrol
#

And it’s also a way of a balancing the Psyker period

arctic talon
#

One of the only ones

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

That’s true

#

It’s still bigger then a normal push

normal stream
#

Bigger push is nerfed now

stark frigate
#

its not bigger anymore

normal stream
#

Feels the same size as normal push

arctic talon
#

Nvm then

stark frigate
#

its roughly the same as a normal push

#

still count it as a buff

dusk patrol
#

Sienna for example had mostly shitty versions of other peoples weapons but her abilities made them worthwhile still

stark frigate
#

0 peril from it is amazing

normal stream
#

Yeah

#

I really like that they took that feedback

stark frigate
#

feels REALLY nice having 0 peril from it

#

Although, charging the sword should have lowered perl

#

45% from 1 charge? seriously?

normal stream
#

When I need to push I don't care about its range I just need to fucking clear some breathing room

stark frigate
#

Im in the meat grinder, its 27%, weird

normal stream
#

It's not 45%

misty dove
#

Who are the gray armored guardsman in the introduction cutscene and at the start of some of the levels?

normal stream
#

I'd be dead a lot if it were

normal stream
stark frigate
#

Other operatives

normal stream
#

Start of some levels llooks like local PDF

#

Or levied guard regiments

stark frigate
#

And i found what confused me, brain burst is 45%

#

it should be 35% imo

dusk patrol
normal stream
#

It's 35%

#

I don't die popping 3 in a row

stark frigate
#

so more operatives

dusk patrol
#

The ones we see on the ship are inquisition

normal stream
stark frigate
#

yes

#

ive looked

normal stream
#

Every time I stop to look my teammates run off

#

😂

stark frigate
#

they could get changed when the game officialy drops thouigh

normal stream
#

Yeah

stark frigate
#

to have proper grey armor like closed beta

normal stream
#

Seems weird lore wise

stark frigate
#

to look like proper PDF

dusk patrol
#

Either way it’s people conscripted to work for the Inquisition for now at least, regardless of where they came from originally

stark frigate
#

Talking about this armour btw

#

From the closed beta

#

Slap them in this and they'll be believable PDF

arctic talon
#

Some of them have that

#

Uniform iirc

stark frigate
#

ive not seen any in that

#

all the black Inquisitorial stuff

#

Where are you seeing them?

#

i saw one in a cutscene and he was part of the warband on the ship

arctic talon
#

hab draco

#

one

stark frigate
#

where

arctic talon
#

there's some guys

#

behind you

#

when you spawn in

#

they got a demolisher

stark frigate
#

shame i cant check since its not in atm

arctic talon
#

The scan the biothings

#

one

stark frigate
#

i know those guys

arctic talon
#

nvm then

#

my b

stark frigate
#

its fine

arctic talon
#

I could have sworn lol

stark frigate
#

Its the same spawn which has the guys in that room to the right, on beds and the floor

#

theyre all in the black gear

arctic talon
#

no

#

thats the uhhh

#

other one

#

isn't it

stark frigate
#

you go up the stairs and to the left is the tanks

arctic talon
#

thats not the one I'm talking about

stark frigate
#

unless theres another one with a room to the right

arctic talon
#

There's another one

#

with the big cabals

#

cabels

#

in the sky

#

that light up blue

stark frigate
#

Yes thats the same one im describing

arctic talon
#

wait

#

am I stupid lmao

#

I prolly am

stark frigate
#

Go up the stairs, left are tanks, right is the big bridge where you go through a crate

normal stream
#

Anyone check the insignia on the russes?

stark frigate
#

go further forward, go down and through tunnels

stark frigate
normal stream
#

Ah

stark frigate
#

which is why i assume theyre borrowed from the planet

arctic talon
#

There’s another lemen russ demolisher

#

In the ammo run mission as well

#

I’m assuming it’s what atoma hive pumps out Enmass

normal stream
#

Using inquisitorial staff for garrison duty feels a bit odd

stark frigate
#

Yeah its said in the forge mission that their ore is perfect for Lemun russ's

normal stream
#

You see them in the forge mission too

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

Might just be

stark frigate
#

And we give them the special ammo

arctic talon
#

Less well trained members

stark frigate
#

god knows what theyre actually doing

arctic talon
#

We dunno who’s getting the special ammo

misty dove
#

These guys inquisition?

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stark frigate
#

The better trained operatives

#

they tell you via radio

normal stream
#

Probably the level 30 guys running around with bolters 😉

stark frigate
misty dove
#

At the start of the big bridge mission

#

But you see them everywhere

stark frigate
#

Ive never seen these guys in any run

#

what

#

They definitely fit PDF

misty dove
#

I hope they let us wear baseball caps

arctic talon
#

There’s a ton of guys like that

#

In the bridge area

#

Inb4

#

The spawns are randomized

stark frigate
#

i only see the all black inquisitorial ones in that mission

arctic talon
#

To give us more variety lmao

stark frigate
#

huh

arctic talon
#

I know in the desert mission

#

There’s a single inquisition guy

stark frigate
#

Dont mention that mission

#

i cry every time

arctic talon
#

With a sniper

misty dove
#

I've never seen black armored inquisition guys outside the ship

stark frigate
#

there for 1 hour on day 1

#

never to be seen again

arctic talon
#

Ngl

#

I wish he gave us Overwatch

#

During the sequences

stark frigate
#

theyre always at spawn

arctic talon
#

Bcs he has line of sight

#

Of us

#

So why doesn’t he help us lol

stark frigate
#

not payed enough

normal stream
#

Saving his ammo lol

stark frigate
#

you fragger

arctic talon
#

It’s not like the bridge mission

#

Where we like

#

Aren’t in sight

misty dove
#

The guys at spawn have gray armor

rustic spruce
#

i get that the penitent engine is a punishment, but it feels counterintuitive to have the pilot so easily able to get shot.

stark frigate
#

thats the point

#

Also, this is 40k

#

there may be a shield in-lore

#

Helmetless spacemarines usually have an iron halo

#

Either way, with those engines, its the point

normal stream
stark frigate
#

They're dying for the emperor to repent

normal stream
#

Besides, if they're just pumped full of drugs and the body doesn't realize it's dead, does it matter?

#

😂

dusk patrol
#

They’re also not supposed to survive

stark frigate
#

Ok testing force sword against Chainsaw and now im confused

#

Did they change the getting stuck animation

dusk patrol
#

They just recover the machine eventually

stark frigate
#

its slow again on the Chainsaw

#

i remember on day 1 it was really quick

#

huh

normal stream
#

I wonder if the duration changes depending on what it gets stuck in

stark frigate
#

I want the long las sniper

rustic spruce
#

gimme an absolution pattern sniper rifle

arctic talon
#

Exitus sniper rifle

#

So I can instantly die from using it

stark frigate
#

Hot-shot lasgun when

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junior prawn
stark frigate
#

one of the gunners already uses the hot-shot, the model exists

rustic spruce
#

gimme a psyber eagle

stark frigate
#

maybe we can get it eventually

rustic spruce
#

lemme play as a fair and balanced eversor assassin

stark frigate
#

imagine

storm jungle
#

Crows but close enough

junior prawn
#

Anchorite sarcophagus are an example.

misty dove
#

There's a distinct lack of actual inquisitorial stormtroopers around

arctic talon
#

I mean

misty dove
#

Would be cool to see scions on the ship at least

arctic talon
#

The guys in the lobby

storm jungle
#

we are kinda them

#

so

arctic talon
#

Are technically stormtroopers

storm jungle
#

who needs em

misty dove
#

The inquisition's budget got slashed I see

arctic talon
#

Lol

#

Might be they don’t need

stark frigate
#

mars pattern (tallarn) lasgun when

unknown.png
arctic talon
#

Carapace on board

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

They’re there to stop like

#

The convicts getting any ideas

#

Of escaping

stark frigate
#

Voss pattern (steel legion) lasgun

unknown.png
arctic talon
#

By the time we hit trust level 30

#

We’re members of the actual war band

#

So

#

Maybe stormtrooper class

misty dove
#

When do we get carapace armor

rustic spruce
#

man i love the design for eversors

misty dove
#

Probably for $20 after the launch