#40k-lore-chat

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celest dome
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Is Sylesk in both AoS and 40k ?

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Veteran symbol

arctic talon
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Indicator of being a sergeant

bitter raven
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interesting

arctic talon
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White helmet is veteran

dusk knot
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so you know which to shoot

arctic talon
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For ultramarines

arctic talon
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I forgot their names

hearty bluff
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In your opinions, what do you find the best looking space marine helmet?

rustic spruce
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What does red helmet mean for ultramarines

bitter raven
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who actually owns all the warhamme lore and IP shit for the licensing

celest dome
arctic talon
arctic talon
bitter raven
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very interesting

arctic talon
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Funnily enough

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warhammer started off

bitter raven
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is warhammer 40k one guy?

arctic talon
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as a way for people to use their extra DND minis

bitter raven
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lmao

celest dome
bitter raven
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its TRASH

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literal trash game

hearty bluff
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Bruh

rustic spruce
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Wasn’t warhammer a more combat focused dnd at the beginning

arctic talon
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no

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It was really weird at first

bitter raven
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thats fucking crazy

arctic talon
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then it solidified

dusk knot
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I liked the weird stuff

arctic talon
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into an actual formation based wargame

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for fantasy

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and 40k became a more squad based

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WW2 esque wargame

dusk knot
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but I get it can be frustrating to lose a game due to dice rolls

rustic spruce
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When did warhammer decide to go all in on the grimdark

bitter raven
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that makes sense based on the art

arctic talon
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With some really weird rules

arctic talon
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It was a lot more grimdark in 2nd edition

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for 40k

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for Fantasy it started out grimdark

dusk knot
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rogue trader was fairly grimdark

arctic talon
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yeah

celest dome
arctic talon
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but not as oppresive about it

bitter raven
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grimdark fantasy is way cooler than high fantasy

arctic talon
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Except

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Warhammer is high fantasy

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lmao

celest dome
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AoS mini are the best

arctic talon
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Grimdark is just the overal themeing

dusk knot
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it was based off of 70s britain

bitter raven
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ye abut it has genocide and wax paper

arctic talon
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raging against the dying light

bitter raven
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lotr is like happy people

arctic talon
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An inevtible end

celest dome
dusk knot
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lotr isn't high fantasy

rustic spruce
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Does only the high king of the dwarves write new grudges, or does the book wrote itself

arctic talon
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AoS is high fantasy powermetal grimdark

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Which is a sick fucking asthetic

dusk knot
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ngl I sometimes prefer fantasy over 40k

rustic spruce
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Fantasy has more of a sense of humor in it

bitter raven
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cloth armor sexy hair people vs chad tube guy in a bathtub of floating skulls

arctic talon
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Warhammer Fantasy battle

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is a little bit more

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subuded

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in its high fantasy elements

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And then there's the Slaves to Darkness

dusk knot
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I liked the dumb stuff

arctic talon
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and other chaos forces

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along with the Wizard schools

dusk knot
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which is why I like orks

arctic talon
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Fantasy def had much more of a sense of humour

hearty bluff
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I miss OG fantasy

full bane
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Warhammer Fantasy as a setting is peasant-punk.

hearty bluff
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Idk anything about AOS lol

full bane
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It's both hilariously grounded and high fantasy at the same time.

arctic talon
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yeah

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Bretonia is like

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Medival france

bitter raven
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They should continue to make warhammer games it is perfect for battlefield

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bring out the tanks and the drop ships

arctic talon
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except there's also immortal grail knights

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lmao

celest dome
arctic talon
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yeah

dusk knot
arctic talon
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No

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They’re French

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Technically

bitter raven
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all the goblins sound like western european LUL

celest dome
arctic talon
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Based on voicelines

rustic spruce
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Grail knight, schmail knight. Blessed sigmar shall protect

bitter raven
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but so do all the imperial people

dusk knot
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it might be the mix up of bretonian with britain

arctic talon
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Orks are Bri’ish

dusk knot
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when it should be breton

arctic talon
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They got cockney accents

bitter raven
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yea its like half of that lore is just british people LUL

rustic spruce
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Them ork cheerleaders in bloodbowl tho

hearty bluff
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I love being a part of the Boyz

dusk knot
full bane
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Amusingly there's no Britian analogue in Warhammer Fantasy.

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Albion exists.

rustic spruce
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I wanna get stuck in wit da boiz

arctic talon
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No minis tho lol

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They had some like

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Mercs

full bane
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But it isn't a faction or properly civilized land.

arctic talon
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In dogs of war

bitter raven
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its gotta be the uhhhh elector counts

dusk knot
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with a universe based on the satire of 70s britain

full bane
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Yeah, some Celtic based mercs right?

arctic talon
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Elector counts are German

bitter raven
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they be british

arctic talon
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Sorta

hearty bluff
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The empire is more German

full bane
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It's fantasy HRE

hearty bluff
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Ye

celest dome
hearty bluff
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Orkz are probably the closest because all we do is drink and fight lol

celest dome
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Rule the seas and what not

bitter raven
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then the british are clearly the goblins

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or the non goblin goblins

full bane
rustic spruce
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Who are the skaven

dusk knot
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rat people

bitter raven
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LOL

tawdry nimbus
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What are the skaven

celest dome
full bane
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At least Ulthuan is. They've got a very early Greece aesthetic and spearman focus, with some Atlantis theme-ing.

bitter raven
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the fat lady on the sea shell

arctic talon
plush mason
celest dome
bitter raven
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the rat people should move like rats not bipeds

arctic talon
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I mean

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They do run on all 4’s

dusk knot
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well they are featherless bipeds

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so they are men clearly

full bane
tawdry nimbus
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Why are the skaven

rustic spruce
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Gotta wonder how the skaven feed themselves with those populations numbers

tawdry nimbus
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No one asked, how are the skaven

dusk knot
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warp stone

celest dome
plush mason
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and sometimes hellish industrial farms

celest dome
bitter raven
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what exactly is a space marine

alpine ingot
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This pains me deeply. Also nothing is more depressing to see 3 of your squad get netted by the same trapper, just for you to kill them but get ragdoll tossed between 2 mutants as a sniper takes aim at you.

bitter raven
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is it the ogre?

tawdry nimbus
celest dome
plush mason
celest dome
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Who is a natural human or Abhuman and not industrialy made

bitter raven
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interesting

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what do the face tubes do to all the high ranking guys who get face tubes

plush mason
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face tubes?

celest dome
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Depend on the person

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Some are data tubes

bitter raven
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yea they always have hoses in their faces

celest dome
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Other are chem injectors

bitter raven
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lmaooooo

rustic spruce
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Nagash thought death was cringe so he chose not to participate in it

celest dome
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Nagash was cringer than death

plush mason
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do loyalist space marines still use those tubes?

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i literally only ever see them on chaos space marines

bitter raven
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its so cool because the helmet has the breather tubes and then the face is like more tubes and a robot eye

celest dome
plush mason
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they are chaos marines so i guess

celest dome
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Iron hand ?

bitter raven
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I like how they use dead people bodies as telephones

celest dome
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Always forget which are wich

rustic spruce
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Here’s an astropath, let us make the call, let us see what he thinks of this stall

plush mason
celest dome
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Astropath are more like the Nasa sending informations in the far space

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Closer comms are called Vox

hearty bluff
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Iron hands are the loyalist chapters that believe the flesh is weak and replace it with cybernetics and implants. Iron warriors are masters of siege the opposite of the imperial fists.

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Iron warriors are chaos.

bitter raven
plush mason
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oh the beaks?

rustic spruce
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Perturabo be like “why do i get all the shitty jobs” when he was the one who signed up for them

bitter raven
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tubes and loin clothes is a good combo

full bane
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Do you mean these things on the side of the helm?

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plush mason
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oh right those tubes

bitter raven
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ye athey have lots of tubes

storm jungle
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those are in anything sci-fi

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cables and pipes are futuristic

full bane
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If so those are part of the rebreather apparatus I believe.

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Not all the helmets have it

bitter raven
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all the stuff that ripped off warhammer 40k has no tubes

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like where are the tubes man

storm jungle
bitter raven
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its like matrix tubes

rustic spruce
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Everyone’s ripping off everybody

storm jungle
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No

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lmao

bitter raven
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yea but some british guy started it

storm jungle
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40k literally stole from so much shit in the 80's

full bane
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There's a fair bit of variety in helmets.

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bitter raven
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no tubes!!!

storm jungle
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oshit the fuzz

plush mason
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lol

bitter raven
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looks like train face also good

full bane
bitter raven
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LOL that guy looks like data

plush mason
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data? from star trek?

rustic spruce
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Starcraft did really heavily inspire their space marine suits from 40k’s

storm jungle
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Okay but thats like the worst comparison

bitter raven
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warhammer has everything even woke liberal gang

storm jungle
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40k literally straight up steal half its shit from Dune KEK

storm jungle
bitter raven
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it has like pink mohawk sexy muscle ladies

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squad

storm jungle
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what

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do you mean the Sisters of Battle?

full bane
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I think he's talking about House Escher.

plush mason
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i guess he is talking bout house escher

storm jungle
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deja vu

bitter raven
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LMAO

storm jungle
bitter raven
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oh shit

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lmao

storm jungle
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Not sure about the "woke" part but Escher are more amazonian/aztec than anything you are describing lmao

bitter raven
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purple mohawks and lots of tattoos looks like my tinder match list

rustic spruce
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You think they’ll kill stern a 3rd time

alpine ingot
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Yeah... warrior women gang tribe isn't exactly new.

bitter raven
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its crazy

storm jungle
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I mean

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they are gangers

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so yeah

bitter raven
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the fact one company has such an expansive IP is impressive

plush mason
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when like 90% of your men are born completely deformed there is no choice but to have the women take over

storm jungle
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40k isnt that popular

bitter raven
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I have been seeing 40k stuff for a long time

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its OLD people stuff

full bane
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Most tabletop settings are pretty sprawling to be fair.

storm jungle
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Kinda

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most people you'd ask on the street would have no idea what 40k is

rustic spruce
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It could be more popular if they didn’t require your firstborn to afford the models

full bane
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40k has just had a few decades to add on more and more stuff, all while keeping it in the same setting.

bitter raven
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my zoomer coworker knew it was a board game

plush mason
bitter raven
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cant you just 3D print all that now?

alpine ingot
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The most mainstream mention of 40k I have ever seen is Henry Cavil state he paints minis when he can.

plush mason
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same

alpine ingot
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And that is about it.

rustic spruce
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GW will send a kill squad to your house

urban sonnet
# storm jungle 40k isnt that popular

Buncha nerds have atleast seen Space Marines through time - I knew of 40k and Warhammer way before I ever started painting or playing anything related to it

bitter raven
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yea what is with the painting is that part of the deal like you HAVE to paint it but you HAVE to use lore colors

full bane
urban sonnet
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Same goes for my fellow zoomer friends

storm jungle
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space marines also mix in with every generic space trooper

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so it doesnt really make the mstand out

urban sonnet
bitter raven
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like gears of war is clearly a warhammer thing

rustic spruce
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Markiplier made a bunch of people aware of 40k. So there’s that.

bitter raven
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everyone played that lol

plush mason
bitter raven
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it has chainswords

plush mason
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no. it has one gun with a chainsaw bayonet

urban sonnet
bitter raven
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yea their whole selling point looks like warhammer

alpine ingot
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This may seem heretical but, Spartans from halo stand out more in the public mind then 40k space marines.

plush mason
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its not heretical at all

bitter raven
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yea everyone knows that tube-less master chief

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he aint got not design flair

urban sonnet
full bane
# bitter raven cant you just 3D print all that now?

Kind of but not really. 3D printing isn't exactly a cheap hobby either if you want to get minis that are high quality. It's good for people who are already invested into the hobby or for those who already do 3D printing, but not quite the magic solution most people think they are.

plush mason
bitter raven
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and they even fight weird humanoid alien things

rustic spruce
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40k should have made a more aggressive push in video games back in the day

alpine ingot
bitter raven
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yea I feel like everything has been a success around warhammer

arctic talon
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For your armies

storm jungle
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every sci-fi dystopia story ever

storm jungle
arctic talon
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You can have purple ultramarines if you wanted

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Painting =/= rules

bitter raven
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like every other sci fi thing took off but not warhammer

storm jungle
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I mean it did

arctic talon
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I mean

bitter raven
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and its the best one of them all

storm jungle
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warhammer makes a lot of money

urban sonnet
arctic talon
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Warhammer absolutely

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Took off

storm jungle
arctic talon
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It’s more popular then ever

urban sonnet
bitter raven
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like warhammer has no movie that would draw in the casuals

arctic talon
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It doesn’t have any good movies lol

bitter raven
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or some kind of anime thing

plush mason
urban sonnet
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Warhammer is alright

bitter raven
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yea so is it all just dune ripoffs?

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lmao

storm jungle
urban sonnet
storm jungle
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also yeah it is

bitter raven
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there has to be a constant

arctic talon
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Everything is a dune rip off

storm jungle
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Dune is the grandfather of most sci-fi universes you know today

arctic talon
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Kekw

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If we wana go down that route

storm jungle
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its like LOTR jumpstarting fantasy as a genre

arctic talon
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All paths lead to dune

bitter raven
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yea it all copies one thing always

rustic spruce
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Would you rather live on arrakis or catachan

urban sonnet
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Arrakis is the most important planet after all

plush mason
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Dune is old as shit and is more or less the lord of the rings of sci fi lol

arctic talon
urban sonnet
bitter raven
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I should watch dune

arctic talon
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Arraksis promises a slightly less horrifying death

bitter raven
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is that the sci fi movie with the asexual alien who pukes babies in a sandstorm?

arctic talon
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No

bitter raven
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LMAO

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you know what I am talking about

plush mason
bitter raven
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it was on tv

urban sonnet
bitter raven
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2020 jesus

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I saw that its the black suit people

urban sonnet
rustic spruce
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I wonder if they’ll make movies for the later dune books

arctic talon
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The movie is a very faithful adaptation

arctic talon
plush mason
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there are older dune movies btw

arctic talon
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Yeah

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And they suck

urban sonnet
plush mason
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ye

arctic talon
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Compared to the books imo

arctic talon
rustic spruce
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Was it that a single drop of water would kill a sandworm in dune

bitter raven
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ok so DUNE 84 00 and 21

arctic talon
urban sonnet
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As to why they dont die by eating some nerd

arctic talon
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Ngl Baal sucks really hard

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There’s sentient water

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That consumes all your moisture

urban sonnet
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But, granted a drop enters their system, their internal chemistry dies

plush mason
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thirst water

urban sonnet
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gamer girl bath water

rustic spruce
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Consume its moisture, show it whose boss

bitter raven
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thats cool its so DRY that water kills it lmao

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genius

plush mason
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isnt a big part of dune's economy just crack made from sandworm shit?

arctic talon
rustic spruce
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Gotta get that spice

plush mason
bitter raven
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john goodman is in dune loooool

rustic spruce
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I find it funny that shield in dun me protect against almost everything except really slow stabbing

plush mason
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ye

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they also become personal nukes if hit with a laser

bitter raven
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this shit is c razy I should watch the dune movies

arctic talon
rustic spruce
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Gotta walk real careful in dune

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Or else you’ll attract the worms

plush mason
bitter raven
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christ roberts tried to copy the dune sandworm

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because he knows

rustic spruce
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If your footsteps have any sense of rhythm you’ll attract the worms

plush mason
rustic spruce
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Yeah the fremen have methods of riding them

plush mason
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now that is a flex

bitter raven
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how do you ride a worm underground

rustic spruce
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Well you ride the worm when it’s above ground

plush mason
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dune sandworms are fucking massive

bitter raven
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dune has the star trek guy hot damn

rustic spruce
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Sandworms are kilometers long

bitter raven
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look at that worm

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that needs to be a movie

plush mason
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it is

bitter raven
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dune just looks like a better star wars now

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oh I see that is dune 2000 sandworm

rustic spruce
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Dune is the alpha to many sci fi’s omega

plush mason
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ye

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the lord of the rings of sci fi

bitter raven
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this is very impressive lol

storm jungle
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Lucas more or so admits he made the Force based on the Voice from Dune

dusk knot
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the problem is that a lot of exposition and lore gets lost in movies

storm jungle
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its hilarious

bitter raven
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like what the fuck is this lol

rustic spruce
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It feels like everybody steals from dune

storm jungle
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i mean

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again

rustic spruce
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It’s kinda tradition

storm jungle
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Grandfather of sci-fi

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same as how every fantasy universe steals from LOTR

bitter raven
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is dune one guy?

storm jungle
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Yes

bitter raven
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is he a british guy?

storm jungle
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American

rustic spruce
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His son wrote the later books iirc

storm jungle
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Frank Herbert

storm jungle
plush mason
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again its the lord of the rings of sci fi, ofc every sci fi steals from it just like every fantasy steals from lord of the rings lol

bitter raven
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i cant believe they all rip off some guy named frank herbert

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lmao

storm jungle
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Frank never got to finish it since after his wife died he just got super depressed and passed on shortly afterwards

plush mason
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oof

bitter raven
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that sucks

storm jungle
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yeah sadly

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but he made a neat universe that is remembered to this day so thats all we can ask for at this point

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if Dune didnt exist, 40k wouldnt either so we can be thankful lmao

bitter raven
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ok so how did frank herbert make this lol

normal stream
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And without 40k we wouldn't have Starcraft either

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:p

bitter raven
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industrial revolution?

storm jungle
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uhhh

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lots of shrooms

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for starters

bitter raven
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nice

plush mason
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lol

storm jungle
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also majorily his trip to the middle-east

plush mason
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wtf did he go to the empty quarter or something?

storm jungle
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Arakkis is basically a big metaphor for colonizing nations stealing the lifeblood (oil) of lower nations and abusing its populace

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tho in this case its Spice

bitter raven
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so mushrooms and a sandbox got it

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insane

dusk knot
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tho it's still fuel

bitter raven
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well that clearly explains sci fi

plush mason
storm jungle
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YEP

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Also they are literally the descendants of earth's middle-eastern populace/ethnic-groups settling on Arrakis long ago since Dune takes place in our universe

dusk knot
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as I understand it, spice is space cocaine that they give to worms to make ftl travel

storm jungle
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the spice is literally worm poop

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it gets left in the sand and machines come to extract it

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its the only place in the galaxy that produces this

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and Navigators need it for FTL travel

plush mason
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baby worm poop specifically

dusk knot
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why don't they steal a worm

normal stream
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and then worms eat machines and spit back out poop

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and the cycle of poop continues

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💩

storm jungle
full bane
bitter raven
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this worm poo economy is more interesting than most entire plot lines

storm jungle
full bane
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Or well, it's presumed to kill them. There's more to it.

storm jungle
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Dune has a lot of good space politics

dusk knot
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I feel like I should read the books

arctic talon
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I can’t wait for people to lose their mind over the word jihad

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In the next dune movie

plush mason
arctic talon
full bane
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At least where Paul discusses his vision.

storm jungle
bitter raven
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maybe I should take mushroooms inthe desert and invent a genre

arctic talon
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We’ll see then

normal stream
storm jungle
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also yeah Dune uses messiah's as a message that you shouldnt always follow them lest they lead you to chaos and damnation

You can see how the 40k writers got inspired by this

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lots of jihads and holy wars

arctic talon
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^

arctic talon
normal stream
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yeah I think so too

arctic talon
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For a big reveal

normal stream
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suck everyone in first

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I'm very curious to see the world's reaction to it

arctic talon
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Yeah we’re at the pretty tame parts

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Of dune rn

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It’s about to descend into the more insane stuff

storm jungle
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its literally like

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one half of the first book iirc

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lmao

normal stream
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Anyways, I just came on to say that the Elysian player in me is so happy to see the accatran pattern lasgun make it into darktide

arctic talon
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Yes

normal stream
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Maybe enough eager fans of it will make GW bring back muh flyboys that have been out of play for a decade

arctic talon
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The first half of the first book

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Is really good for hooking people in

storm jungle
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yeeee, like

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when the movie came out

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40k fans were going nuts lmao

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THERE WAS THIS ONE POST on r40klore

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"Was Dune inspired by 40k"

arctic talon
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Oh god

storm jungle
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big bruh moment

arctic talon
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I remember

normal stream
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oh boy

arctic talon
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Did you see the grim Dank post in response lol

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Which is

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“I’m about to witness a murder”

storm jungle
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LEL

normal stream
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lolol

storm jungle
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Honestly it was great

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both that and the sardaukar memes

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goddamn they were good

arctic talon
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Lmfao

storm jungle
full bane
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40k has a few major influences. Dune, The Moorcock-verse, 2000 A.D., and Starship Troopers to name a few.

arctic talon
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The Sardukar throat singing

storm jungle
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god that part was one of the reasons Im glad i saw it in theatres

full bane
normal stream
storm jungle
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legit felt like i was taking part in an Astartes pre-battle ceremony

normal stream
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The suspicion is that the STS movie took reference from GW

full bane
normal stream
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something something votann something

storm jungle
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yeah the first I.G were super starship troopers inspired

normal stream
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😆

storm jungle
#

but it lasted briefly

#

then they got their own identity

normal stream
#

I'm so glad to see that IG are getting back to some of their odder roots

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Like rough riders

#

Mordians getting a nice shoutout

hearty bluff
#

Solar Auxilia I think

plush mason
#

give. us. the. deisealpunk. space suits. gamesworkshop

arctic talon
#

You have em lol

#

They’re on forgeworld

#

For an arm and a leg

plush mason
#

lol

celest dome
#

For Horus Heresy

arctic talon
#

Solar auxilia unironically the most expensive army

#

To collect

rustic spruce
#

40k mega gargant model when

celest dome
#

Forge World might have it

#

Not sure anymore

plush mason
#

so. solar auxilia skins when fatshark?

arctic talon
#

Solar auxilia doesn’t exist anymore

plush mason
#

sad

arctic talon
#

Unless we count the Saturn ship yard defense forces

odd palm
arctic talon
#

Who are the origin of the auxilia

celest dome
#

There are some Solar Auxilia things we've seen already

full bane
#

I'm sure the Jovians exist in some form.

arctic talon
#

Saturians with death rays

#

Lul

#

Yeah the jovians are still around

#

But the solar auxilia as an organization doesn’t

sly trench
#

So kinda dumb question, but mechanically what are people doing in game when they power up a power sword? Like... pressing a button and running a current through the blade?

celest dome
#

Like the Ogryn in the 1st art has that backpack

arctic talon
#

The Jovians run one of the biggest

#

Shipyards

#

In the entire imperium

full bane
#

Maybe they even have a regiment they outfit with the same equipment.

arctic talon
full bane
#

Maaaybee

arctic talon
#

Tbh

#

Triplex phal still exists

#

As do their own forges

#

They prolly still equip their own security forces

#

With that stuff

sly trench
arctic talon
#

Oh

#

Idfk

#

Ask GW

sly trench
#

They just want it really bad and it activated

odd palm
#

Not sure about in DT but in the lore there’s usually an activation stud

full bane
#

You do something to the activation rune.

plush mason
#

ugh cant post links again

sly trench
plush mason
#

stupid discord

full bane
#

Whether the activation rune is real or visible is another thing altogether.

celest dome
#

Maybe it's a simple press trigger

plush mason
arctic talon
#

It’s prolly some tiny button

celest dome
#

Like just press extra hard on the hilt

odd palm
#

Mmm, though most of the time it’s not mentioned. Much like you won’t hear authors say a trigger was squeezed when firing a gun

arctic talon
rustic spruce
#

How do orks even build a gargant without the enemy noticing

arctic talon
#

They’re still around

arctic talon
sly trench
full bane
#

Yup, the thing we don't know is if their Imperial Army regiments made the transition to the guard, the Solar Auxilia equipment is all Saturnine and Jovian equipment IIRC, and they were both specialized in void-sealed operations.

odd palm
#

That makes sense

rustic spruce
#

What does the imperium use earth’s moon for

normal stream
#

Defense station, effectively.

#

Prior to the Great Crusade it was also where the Legiones Astartes gene labs were

arctic talon
gloomy jetty
#

Sorry for if this is a dumb question, but you know the garrison guardsmen we see sometimes at the beginning of missions, are they loyalist Moebian Sixth? Or just a different thing entirely?

storm jungle
#

Inquisitorial Troops/Suriving local PDF

#

The entirety of the Moebian 6th is traitors

gloomy jetty
#

Ah ok, thanks! 😸

plush mason
#

ye i imagine its standard practice when a regiment turns traitor for them to kill all the still loyal members asap

gloomy jetty
#

Yeah that makes sense

hearty bluff
#

Must admit, walking through a line of guardsmen was pretty cool

#

Atoma prime to break before the guard did

gloomy jetty
#

Walking under those Leman Russ’s is ace, the set dressing is really great

hearty bluff
#

Absolutely, they've nailed the scale of 40k imo

#

Wouldn't mind seeing a tempestus Scion squad at some point 👀

normal stream
#

I'm surprised we haven't seen more inquisitorial stormtroopers just hanging about the ship

#

Anyways. I want a hellgun 😦

celest dome
#

Hellgun and Multilaser for the Ogryn

#

Could have similar mechanics of having to manage heat but you have a much higher ammo and firing rate

gloomy jetty
#

Maybe get a Scion as a subclass sometime?

celest dome
#

Maybe

hearty bluff
#

An outcast Scion could be pretty cool, but idk how their class will differ from veteran?

alpine ingot
#

I might go mad if I play 5 quick plays in a row and I have to hear Morrow talk about a leman russ destroyer again.

celest dome
#

But there are other possible themes for the Veteran that could be explored where Scion could basically just be having the Hellgun

hearty bluff
#

Maybe an assault specialist?

celest dome
#

Like Veteran Scion or Veteran Commisar
I'd prefer Commissar

hearty bluff
#

Commissar could be good for support.

#

Or summary execution if you run the wrong way kek_LL

#

What could be a good class would be some sort of disgraced sister of battle?

tall hinge
#

I mean you can practically make a sister Repentia already with zealot.

celest dome
#

The prob. With a SoB archetype is that it's too close to Zealot

alpine ingot
#

A penitent engine

celest dome
#

But ther is a way to do it

hearty bluff
#

Nothin but flames.

celest dome
#

Simply axing the SoB archetype on the Act/Shield of Faith

#

Trading Grenade and active be tied to a resource that can be used to lower damage taken and such

gloomy citrus
hollow lantern
#

It wouldn't fit with the other classes in game

gloomy citrus
#

There is a bolter in game.

#

Or so I heard.

hollow lantern
#

There's human pattern bolters

#

It's not a space marine bolter

hearty bluff
#

Bolt pistol?

hollow lantern
#

No, it's a human sized bolter, they exist

celest dome
#

Locke pattern Bolter

gloomy jetty
#

They’re arbites pattern or something bolters aren’t they?

celest dome
#

Though the insigna mention Godwyn

gloomy citrus
#

Ogryns could wield bolters.

celest dome
#

Nah just IG ones

hollow lantern
celest dome
#

Ogryn could wield SM bolter but those might prove to be too brittle

hollow lantern
#

In terms of what they would be preforming

celest dome
#

Same way, a Ratling would be too close to the Veteran

hollow lantern
#

You can be a ratling, just aim better.

#

No difference between you and a ratling sniper if you don't miss

celest dome
#

Ratling would be the same as a Veteran but smoll but you can set it appart by giving it other traits and such

sly trench
#

I think it's also fair to mention, new classes can break their similarities by also having unique weapons

rustic spruce
hollow lantern
#

Set your max height to the minimum

hearty bluff
#

Suppose ratling could be small, agile but squishy

hollow lantern
#

Use a combat knife

#

You're squishy anyway

hearty bluff
#

I mean extra squishy

#

But then

storm jungle
#

one gun is just bigger

hearty bluff
#

Gameplay wise it'd be incredibly annoying trying to constantly revive a ratling who's dying all the time kek_LL

gloomy citrus
rustic spruce
#

is the metal iron hands use for their arms the same stuff necrons are made out of

hollow lantern
storm jungle
#

the bullets are just bigger

#

otherwise boltgun is boltgun

gloomy citrus
#

Commissar's favourite.

#

Alongside the sword, of course.

hollow lantern
#

Nah yk what they actually could add as a class that I don't see anyone asking for is Bullgryn for Ogryn

#

Make em thicker

gloomy citrus
#

Are these Iron Guard ogryns?

hollow lantern
#

They're Bullgryn

hearty bluff
#

Chonkgryns

rustic spruce
#

bullgryns are ogryns that are trusted with slightly more expensive equipment

sonic hamlet
#

And their shields are made so that they can be sticked together to form an actual wall

turbid gust
#

Sorry been asked before, do we know the name of the Regiment that holds Tertium?

#

The loyalist side, I know the Moebian 6th is the Chaos Regiment.

gloomy citrus
dusk knot
#

and inquisitor grendyl's forces

turbid gust
#

Wait, so the Guard we pass on some missions is just the Inquisitor's forces?

#

Not the planetside regiment?

dusk knot
#

there is another war going on in the atoma system with an unspecified xeno enemy

gloomy citrus
dusk knot
#

the ones in red are the inquistor's

hearty bluff
dusk knot
#

there is the eight point star drawn along with the nurgle symbol

turbid gust
#

Yeah, from the Lexicanum they were deployed to assist with a Nurgle issue and then turned there.

gloomy citrus
turbid gust
#

We're fighting a mix of the Moebian 6th and the Admonition Chaos Cult.

hearty bluff
#

Which could actually be a good thing as we may end up fighting cultists and nutters who worship the other gods

turbid gust
#

Kind of makes me think then that the earlier comment was right - any loyalist guardsmen we see is from the Inqusition forces.

hearty bluff
#

They're might be PDF and other Moebian Regiments that are still loyal.

#

As I'm fairly sure the 6th are all chaos now

next sluice
#

The ones on the planet are in blueish gray, the ones on the mission where there are leman russes on the bridge at the beginning, probably not inquisitor grendyls forces

hearty bluff
#

So more than likely remnant's of PDF and other regiments

#

Imo

gloomy jetty
turbid gust
#

Hell yeah - thanks for dropping that in here.

hearty bluff
#

This makes it easier lol

#

What I would love to see is more background pieces like Lasgun fire between two sides and troops dying

gloomy citrus
hearty bluff
#

Nurgles stinky

#

So nurgle kekWArrive

gloomy citrus
#

But they won't try to rape you or try to turn you into drugs.

gloomy jetty
#

Turn you -into- drugs??

gloomy citrus
hearty bluff
#

It's weird because there's some human aspects that the chaos gods represent, for example khorne represents honour in battle, he won't stab you in the back. He'll just bludgeon you to death, slannessh is the representation of emotions and the pleasures of life, like happiness, sadness and enjoying food.

#

As for nurgle and tzeentch

#

Well, idk on those ones lol

gloomy citrus
jagged monolith
#

Does Tertium really have a population of 90 billion or is the veteran just talking out of his arse? It feels like a bit much even for a hive city 😄

hearty bluff
#

Welcome to 40k

hollow lantern
#

That's honestly not that insane for 40k numbers

hearty bluff
#

The numbers are weird and wonderfully big

gloomy citrus
hollow lantern
#

You think there aren't a 30,000 more planets with a populous of 90 billion plus?

jagged monolith
#

I’m not new to the setting or anything, I just imagine it being more of a combined population of several hive worlds linked together

#

Ah, just read a bit on the wiki saying that a single hive can house anything between 10-100 billion people

gloomy citrus
#

Living there must be fucked for like 80% of that.

jagged monolith
#

Considering the fact they need to recycle corpses into food, yeah 😄

arctic talon
#

For a hive world

#

Oh wait

#

Just atoma hive

#

Yeah that fits

hearty bluff
#

Look at the siege of Vraks.

#

17 year siege with at least 16 million dead.

arctic talon
#

Not counting sacrifices the cult made

#

And other shit

gloomy citrus
cyan oxide
#

isnt tertium like a mega hive where like 5 hives merged

arctic talon
#

Prolly

#

It’s a pretty large hive city

#

90 billion seems like a fine number

normal stream
#

someone should show this to all of the people complaining about the beta lol

image.png
rustic spruce
#

if the guilliman book says that big e only saw the primarchs as tools, why was he so hesitant to kill horus during their confrontation

scenic sun
#

inconsistent lore or he was lying to get guilliman to do certain things

#

you chose

quasi wagon
#

It really depends on who is writing about big E.

#

We have seen everything right now. From doting father big E to cold son murderer.

Big E doesn't simply kill his enemies most of the time. He is eradicating the souls of his enemies. They cease exist even in the warp. He did the same with horus. But in case of horus because of mercy, so the dark powers wouldn't torment his soul for eternity.

Even Sanginius and Magnus didn't want to tell Big E anything about their legions mutations, because of what he did to the two lost primarchs and their legions. Sanginius told this horus outright.

stark frigate
#

It's really interesting seeing some peoples theories and comments about weapons, lore and 40k in general, you can tell who has 0 clue about 40k

scenic sun
#

spoken like a true expert on 40k

#

where the universe is all set in stone and clearly has never been up to interpretation

stark frigate
#

I think my joke/assesment went over your head

late pagoda
#

I think his joke went over yours

stark frigate
#

And most of the universe is set in stone anyway, for the most part

quasi wagon
#

I think in terms of lore the 40k community is as zealous as the inquisition

stark frigate
#

And i meant darktide overall, not just this channel/server

#

You can tell whos new to both 40k and Darktide with certain things they say

#

Not trying to be an elitest or chastise them either, just something ive noticed

#

It's interesting seeing someone fresh to 40k and what they think of it

scenic sun
#

it is interesting, but it's a 40 year old universe. You WILL get things wrong, it's not about if, it's about when

arctic talon
#

If I see another thing about orks picking up a pipe

stark frigate
#

Yeah its unavoidable, when i see it i try to correct it without being rude

arctic talon
#

And using it as a gun

#

I’m gona lose it

scenic sun
stark frigate
#

Or the toaster joke

quasi wagon
#

Yeah. It depends on how long people know the franchise. For some people the primaris are no space marines. And the lore changed quiete a lot over the years.

scenic sun
#

literally

#

the funny video

stark frigate
#

pain2 the fucking toaster joke

scenic sun
#

to be fair, toaster, shovel and ork imagination jokes are just common, they're the first things a new guy or girl goes for

arctic talon
#

Ye

scenic sun
#

it's the most noticeable, so it makes sense

arctic talon
#

It’s low hanging fruit

stark frigate
#

Atleast the krieg shovel one is pretty accurate to lore

scenic sun
#

ehhh... pretty sure they use shovels... in a pitch

arctic talon
scenic sun
#

you'll first try and actually SHOOT the guy

arctic talon
#

But a shovel is a blunt force trauma weapon

stark frigate
#

30k/HH ultramarines: Actually cool and a nice roman aesthetic

40k Ultramarines: fucking boring

arctic talon
#

And if you don’t have a bayonet

#

Well

scenic sun
#

It can be sharp, shovels are actually quite sharp

#

if you want them to be

arctic talon
#

Tbf yeah

#

But

jagged monolith
arctic talon
#

Not all shovels are like

#

Sharp

stark frigate
#

40k ultramarines were stripped of their personality

arctic talon
#

They dig trenches a lot

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

They’re gona get worn down

scenic sun
#

40k ultramarines are just the Reasonable ultramarines, it's nothing else

gloomy citrus
scenic sun
#

^

#

something gulliman was quite embarassed about

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

Tbf

quasi wagon
#

The thing with the Ultramarines as a starting faction is simply their color scheme. White and yellow are very hard to paint. Blue looks always good

arctic talon
#

They’re not even the most like

#

Codex complaint chapter

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

The most codex compliant chapter are the hammers of dorn

scenic sun
#

Cato felt so scared in that scene, actual child

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

Who literally follow it to the letter

gloomy citrus
#

And the Black Templars?

scenic sun
#

Dorn descendants
Active Brain functions

Pick one bucko

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

They ignore it to an extent

#

Gman doesn’t care

#

He doesn’t give a shit if you follow the codex or not

scenic sun
arctic talon
#

Only that you’re effective

#

God forbid the Lion comes back

gloomy citrus
quasi wagon
stark frigate
arctic talon
#

He’d declare war on most of the imperium

scenic sun
#

Sanguinious is not that human to me

stark frigate
#

He's one of the most human

#

Same for vulkan

gloomy citrus
arctic talon
#

Dark angels, black templars and space wolves less so

scenic sun
#

even less so the imperial fists

stark frigate
#

Sanguinius reshaped his Legion from basically post heresy world eaters into fucking angelic italian renaissance artists

arctic talon
scenic sun
arctic talon
#

It’s better to paint now

#

Because of contrasts

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

But holy hell

#

Yellow was miserable

scenic sun
#

Sang is just... too angelical, too good

quasi wagon
scenic sun
#

humans have faults, they fuck up hard, very hard

stark frigate
#

He knew about the flaws and embraced them, he isnt perfect

#

Fulgrim was the perfect one and look what happened there

gloomy citrus
arctic talon
#

Ultramarines are the eternal poster children for 40k

#

Mostly since

#

People like blue

scenic sun
#

Fulgrim was a little bitch and I am glad his face got smashed into a miniature Titan by mr Autist Architect himself

gloomy citrus
arctic talon
#

And blue is easy to paint

stark frigate
scenic sun
#

that's all

quasi wagon
arctic talon
gloomy citrus
arctic talon
scenic sun
#

Fulgrim was the "asshole" perfect, he is too smug about his perfection

#

Sang is the "nice" perfect, he's still humble even if he's way above a lot of people

#

one makes your blood boil, the other makes you not

stark frigate
#

I collect blood angels, red Scorpions, world eaters, alpha legion, krieg, cadians, tallarn, sisters of battle, admech and the occasional random HQ/Character from another faction

quasi wagon
scenic sun
#

riddle me this, then why are the Grey knights not the poster boys?

arctic talon
#

And weird

scenic sun
#

True

arctic talon
#

They swing too hard into medival

#

Unlike normal marines

stark frigate
arctic talon
#

Who are a mix

arctic talon
gloomy citrus
#

They're all psykers.

arctic talon
#

A while ago

stark frigate
#

One model

arctic talon
#

Rumors are they’re getting an updated range

scenic sun
#

other GW members got shot

true sentinel
stark frigate
#

How many years since they were last update before crowe, then add the time from now from crowe

stark frigate
quasi wagon
scenic sun
#

I just like White Scars

stark frigate
scenic sun
#

Funny white paint, funny mongolians. Simple as

#

(forget yellow)

stark frigate
#

I've bought 10 krieg deathriders and i plan to buy 10 rough riders when they're out

#

I'll be unstoppable

quasi wagon
night crystal
#

Does anyone know what these face scars were made by? They are very deliberate and wondering what happened to create them

image.png
true sentinel
#

Imperial fist yellow over the new white is perfect

stark frigate
scenic sun
#

I have no idea, maybe a wheel?

#

like a bike wheel?

next sluice
scenic sun
#

I don't know really

gloomy citrus
scenic sun
#

You're a coward WARP SPIDAH!

stark frigate
#

They're not rare or common, but they're around

scenic sun
#

thought they were too, not too much of an Eldar lore master lol

stark frigate
#

Idk what shape their shuriken ammo is but that was my first thought

scenic sun
#

you don't survive getting shot on the head by those though

stark frigate
#

True

next sluice
#

Tis but a flesh wound

stark frigate
#

No clue what the Y shaped wounds could be, i know a bit of lore but i cant think of anything

scenic sun
#

to me it looks like some wheel markings funnly enough, or maybe it's a gang's way to identify their own

#

considering you can be a hive ganger i belive 🤷‍♂️

stark frigate
#

Cant be a wheel, looks like stab wounds and not all of them are straight, some are rough

scenic sun
#

true

atomic pelican
#

Flechettes perhaps

stark frigate
atomic pelican
#

Imperial artillery can sometimes be loaded with flechettes

#

Could be a misfire, or cultists/such appropriating arms

#

There's alot it could be, so just speculative really

night crystal
#

There's another scar with the same markings, seem too sporadic to be markings by a gang though

image.png
quasi wagon
#

I say only "Maugan ra"

stark frigate
#

Very strange

atomic pelican
#

If it was Maugan Ra, there wouldn't be a head to be scarred

scenic sun
#

Maybe they just "look cool"
a

#

that's it

atomic pelican
#

I do recall an entry of imperial flechette mortars being loaded with aquila shaped flechettes which is hilarious

stark frigate
scenic sun
#

Fat shark can't always be completly accurate lol

stark frigate
#

But they have Dan Abnett helping with lore apparently

#

So it might be a real wound caused by something

night crystal
#

True, just caught me off guard when going through the barber shop

scenic sun
#

I doubt he looked at every scar texture to make sure they're all lore accurate, seems too specific. I'd be impressed though

stark frigate
next sluice
#

Or, hear me out, it’s a kitchen mishap. Your character got into a fight with the ratling cook and he smashed you with this kitchen utensil

image0.jpg
stark frigate
#

Bruh

stark frigate
scenic sun
#

literally

quasi wagon
stark frigate
#

Imagine ratling DLC

scenic sun
#

Don't show pictures of food to Ogryns, last time I did he licked the photo for 2 minutes straight

#

They love them rations

stark frigate
#

Silly Ogryn, you can't eat a pictograph

quasi wagon
#

But ogryn wants eat, wants much food

next sluice
#

Maybe our character got into a fight with a triangle and that’s why all the npcs treat us like trash. Because we are actually just stupid lmao

stark frigate
#

I'm hoping we get some more guard weapons

quasi wagon
#

In reality we are the wrongdoers and we are attacking the peacefull chaos colony

night crystal
#

ogryn is the most in need of new weps, but I will never say no to more guard weaponry

stark frigate
#

Guardsman flamer variant would be nice, like the heavy one you have a backpack for and use both hands on

#

Imagine

scenic sun
#

oops

#

I might have shouted too much trying to impersonate an ogryn

stark frigate
scenic sun
#

Time to earn rations Maaaaatess!

stark frigate
#

I want me a big fuck-off officers cap for Veteran cosmetic DLC

quasi wagon
#

I want a heavy bolter for my ogryn.

stark frigate
#

Castellan outfit when

scenic sun
#

I just want more cosmtics overall

quasi wagon
#

And a commissar hat

scenic sun
#

for all classes

late pagoda
scenic sun
#

nah, give the commissar hat to the ogryn

#

he liked the hat and took it while no one was looking

stark frigate
#

We'll get more cosmetics on release I'm pretty sure

stark frigate
#

The guard voices could make fun of him

late pagoda
quasi wagon
#

As the commisar class you are allowed to shoot your teammates when they run away from you in the wrong direction

stark frigate
scenic sun
#

I want servitor DLC for a even more support class

stark frigate
#

A buffer commisar would be perfect

scenic sun
#

Servitor class

late pagoda
scenic sun
#

instead

stark frigate
#

"Affix bayonets!"

late pagoda
#

Don't listen to Joe he doesn't have original thoughts

scenic sun
stark frigate
#

If they add commisar DLC, ill eat my shorts

scenic sun
#

What about ratling dlc?

stark frigate
#

Doubtful , sadly

#

Too small

late pagoda
#

If they add a commisar dlc I'll let @fresh orbit Command me all day

stark frigate
#

Too much of a hassle to program, most likely

next sluice
#

I just want to yell at my friends and buff them like kruber did in VT2

scenic sun
#

looks at gorek bardinson

quasi wagon
#

I think the next DLC will be Tech priest

#

Skitarii

stark frigate
#

Squat DLC

scenic sun
quasi wagon
fresh orbit
stark frigate
late pagoda
#

Litearlly

stark frigate
#

Not skitarii, techpriest though, maybe

#

Skitarii are specially soldiers for forgeworlds, if it disobeys, it'll be scrapped

scenic sun
#

"Uplink has been restored, well done. Omnisaiah be praised!"

quasi wagon
stark frigate
#

"unleash the power of the servo-skull! ... Oh im sorry, I don't know where that came from"

quasi wagon
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Hehehe

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Well the Voltann could really be added

fresh orbit
stark frigate
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I'm getting impatient and fidgety not getting all the bits and bobs and toys of full release, trying to be patient

late pagoda
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Space dwarf dlc

stark frigate
scenic sun
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thing is if you have a Kin, the league he's fromm will be like "Hmmm... do you mind giving us our lad back? No? Oh well, what a shame, guess you're going into the Excel of grudges"

stark frigate
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At most, i think we'd only get Tzeentch enemies as a secondary enemy varient

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We have no pysker enemies

scenic sun
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nurgle cultists can be pyskers

stark frigate
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no need for them to be tzeentchian

quasi wagon
stark frigate