40k-lore-chat

[hearty bluff]

But

[arctic talon]

Tbf khaine is in fragments

[spring cedar]

Seems I'm fairly far behind on elf lore

[arctic talon]

Ynead is whole

Just sleepy

[atomic pelican]

Tru

Sleepyhead

[spring cedar]

Khaine is shattered to fuck

[atomic pelican]

Lov Ynnari just wish it wasnt Gav again

[hearty bluff]

What about the eldar laughing god who's name I can't spell

[rustic spruce]

Where’s that void dragon fella

[hearty bluff]

Cegorach?

[spring cedar]

It's like trying to bring back the C'tan

[atomic pelican]

Cegorach

[hearty bluff]

Whats he up to?

[spring cedar]

Sleeping in mars

[arctic talon]

His great plan

Lul

[atomic pelican]

Trolling as usual. But yeah, Cegorach's Great Jest

[quasi wagon]

Most eldar don't like the Ynnari, because to awaken ynnead they had to kill off a craftworld

[spring cedar]

Or has this changed as well?

[arctic talon]

Void dragon was never even confirmed

To be on mars

[hearty bluff]

Upsetting the mechanicus

[arctic talon]

But there’s a few fragments of it

Free

Or rather

Used by the Necrons

[spring cedar]

I would never

[atomic pelican]

It's a matter of contention. They didn't kill Biel-Tan. Yvraine had to detonate their circuit to save them from daemons

[celest dome]

Wasn't it confirmed in the Admech book ? Skitarii or something

[arctic talon]

No

[atomic pelican]

Biel Tanish definitely have their reservations about the event, but it was either that or the circuit fed them

[arctic talon]

It’s just confirmed

There’s a thing down there

We dunno what the fuck it is

Just that it’s old

And evil

[atomic pelican]

Grandpa off the shits again

[spring cedar]

But guys, can we all agree on one thing

[storm jungle]

Sorry it was me

didnt want to go to school that day

[spring cedar]

Ciaphas Kain is the greatest warrior of the imperium

[storm jungle]

👩‍🦼

[spring cedar]

Sly Marbo doesn't come close

[quasi wagon]

Yeah. It depends who is basically telling the story. The eldar presented it as "killing"

[atomic pelican]

The Ynnari are the eldar

[hearty bluff]

Severina Raine would like a word

[atomic pelican]

The worry about the Ynnari coming from other eldar factions is mostly them not liking Eldrad/gang having stolen souls from various circuits. And them being in essence a death cult

Also Vect having his egirl stolen

[quasi wagon]

I mean the "true" eldar. Not the mix of drukhari and eldar

[plush mason]

Vect had an egirl?

[atomic pelican]

The complete ban on the Ynnari in Commoragh is quite a giggle though

[atomic pelican]

Lelith ran off to help the Ynnari for a short stint

He's a simp

[plush mason]

lol

[atomic pelican]

Lelith is basically a mega celebrity so it makes sense

[forest kindle]

Do Ogryn's worship the Emperor the same way humans do or is it just something that's convenient for them?

[plush mason]

Simplord Vect

[spring cedar]

It's as convenient as it is for humans, Jordacus

If you want to live that is

[atomic pelican]

In reality it's because Vect doesn't want another faction to rival his power in Commoragh, since the Ynnari have quite a chance of consolidating the kabals/etc

And they don't have to follow his rules

[spring cedar]

Don't mind the space elf nerds

In 40k, worship is paramount, if you don't worship you're a heretic, unless you're mechanicus

[quasi wagon]

They worship the emperor basically like humans.

[plush mason]

they do but its not something they really think to much about, ogryn are simple minded and they dont really understand enough to ask questions

[arctic talon]

The omnissiah for political reasons is the emperor

[spring cedar]

no politics allowed omg

[arctic talon]

Even tho there’s members of the admech

Who don’t think that what so ever

[forest kindle]

So would you get an Ogryn that totally believes in the Emperor and would kill someone who didn't do their duty?

[scenic sun]

we shall ignore the leader of the imperium

[spring cedar]

I'mma have to go dark mechanicum on this one and just reject the emperor

And I'll take the iron belt along with me

[jade crest]

I've come here for refuge. You guys are chill right?

[plush mason]

depends, ogryn are kind of like dogs and will follow the orders they are given to the letter unless said orders involve them hurting those they care about afaik

[spring cedar]

Only if you hate eldar and tau

[jade crest]

I know nothing about Eldar and Tau

[spring cedar]

Welcome.

[jade crest]

Ty

[scenic sun]

good, i know about one of them but I ain't telling which

[forest kindle]

Ah thank you. Both your responses are what I was wondering. I'll have to read more about them

[spring cedar]

Joe confirmed tau fan

lmao

There was an eldar conversation a few minutes ago, Joe didnt join

Therefore tau confirmed

[forest kindle]

and also thank you Toaster and Navinor

[scenic sun]

Yes, I like cheap references to china and the 7 are just the power rangers and it's cool, how could you tell?

[narrow goblet]

what do you guys think psyk-out grenades are made out of, exactly? we know it's emperor's "metabolic byproducts" but... which ones?

[jade crest]

I legit only know the Imperium, Orks, and Tyranid

[spring cedar]

Hahahahah

[scenic sun]

not my fav faction though

[scenic sun]

have you ever seen the TTS audio-log of a custodes going through the "leakage" with some sisters of silence?

[spring cedar]

Nids are fairly bland once you learn about genestealers and lictors

:c

It's the only interesting parts about them

[jade crest]

The poop grenades from Death Stranding

[narrow goblet]

is that in the "if emperor had TTS" series? I never got around to watching all of it lol

[spring cedar]

Oh shit I remember the if the emperor had TTS

[hearty bluff]

Shame Alfa had to stop it

[scenic sun]

yes

[spring cedar]

They were absolute gold

[scenic sun]

it's an audio - log of one of the custodes going through the giant leakage where the emperor's shit goes

in a nutshell, quite funny

[narrow goblet]

I thought it peaked with the pillarmen custodes but I see there's more

[jade crest]

Is the emperor basically like Mr. House from New Vegas?

[spring cedar]

No

Not even close

[scenic sun]

it IS one of the pillarmen custodes doing that mosses, that's what makes it funny

[atomic pelican]

Far less competent, somehow

[spring cedar]

The emperor of mankind is a certain Johnson

With a -75% common sense modifier

[scenic sun]

His name is jimmy space

[jade crest]

John Warhammer

[scenic sun]

Horus feline

[spring cedar]

Twat could've averted the entire heresy by just being honest

Which is why I hate the imperium

[scenic sun]

I doubt that tbf

[hearty bluff]

What's everyone's favourite space marine chapters?, I'm just curious to see what the general consensus is.

Better not be ultrasmurfs

[spring cedar]

Lamenters

Nobodyl ikes ultrasmurfs

[scenic sun]

Ultrasmurfs and Iron Warriors, preferance for the latter

[spring cedar]

Reboute gon go traitor in next millenium

Spoiler alert

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-thor-punch-go-away-get-away-from-me-gif-25219647
i wonder if an ogryn would ever do this to someone they didnt like that tried to boss them around

[narrow goblet]

me and my mate always had fun speculating about historical figures, for example I said that Genghis Khan was 100% elevated to a Daemon Prince of Khorne (you know how they never found his tomb? cuz there isn't one)

[scenic sun]

I wish toaster, imperium secundus two when?

[spring cedar]

He set up the primaris too hard

To not make it a chaos plot

[hearty bluff]

Ngl, Crimson Fists, Minotaurs and red scorpions and the Storm Wardens are my favourite lore wise even if there's not huge amounts

[scenic sun]

Crimson Fists are absolute giga chads

[spring cedar]

He went full on autocratic on primaris

[scenic sun]

and they're spanish, so + points

[spring cedar]

Till people figured out how to do it on their own

Which is a really obvious sign

[minor lance]

Unironically Blood Ravens

[spring cedar]

Blood Ravens, DoW?

[hearty bluff]

Tbh, they are a cool chapter.

[minor lance]

Yes.

[spring cedar]

Can't complain about that choice

[minor lance]

Mostly because of the semi-canon memes

[scenic sun]

my favourite chapter are the Silver skulls, the slender space marines with their chapter master "Tranyz"

[spring cedar]

I'm too "oldf and mature" to do memes

[minor lance]

Bluhd rayvunz steal shit

It's funny

[spring cedar]

In other words, I'm a boring old twat

[minor lance]

It's semi-canon, as well.

[hearty bluff]

You can't bolt things down if they steal the bolts

[spring cedar]

Honestly thought blood ravens were entirely off canon

[minor lance]

Nope, been on canon since... 7th? 8th?

They're even in the 9th.

[scenic sun]

they got their own rules? Damm

[plush mason]

blood ravens are unironically rated as one of the best fighting chapters of SMs as well iirc

[spring cedar]

I'm a xenos mate

[minor lance]

In fact, in 8th you could give them relics from other chapters, iirc.

[spring cedar]

Get out of here with your astartes

[celest dome]

I remember when the real thief were the Salvar Chem Dogs

[minor lance]

@scenic sun now in 9th, I dunno too much about 8th since I only relaly played crons

[celest dome]

All jokes about the BR were done about the Chem Dogs previously

Then the BR stole them

[scenic sun]

Just say your crons are the silver skulls, then you're playing space marines!

[spring cedar]

Aww my joke got auto deleted

"Hey guise I like grey knights XDDD"

Added too many Ds

[hearty bluff]

Honestly I love the idea of some of the IG regiments like the savlars

[quasi wagon]

Blood Ravens, Black Templars and pre heresy Thousand Sons are my favourite chapters.

[spring cedar]

Pre-heresy I'll have to go with wordbearers

[hearty bluff]

I do love the black templars just going out on Deus Vulting on everything lol

[scenic sun]

Pre-heresy probably Iron Warriors

[spring cedar]

Actually no I'll go for ultrasmurfs pre-heresy

[quasi wagon]

Black Templars are like: "I came here to save the innocent and kill the heretics. And i see no innocent"

[spring cedar]

That's as neutral as a xeno can go because they didnt exist

[scenic sun]

Theoretical: The ultramarines are the most efficient legion
Practical: Look at ultramar brother lol

[hollow lantern]

Pre heresy: IF>>>>
Post Heresy: Death Spectres>>>

[hearty bluff]

I have to ask on this one, but. With regards to the word bearers. What are their tactics and fighting styles? Because out of all the chaos legions, the word bearers are the ones I least understand

[spring cedar]

Honestly, can't remember. It's been years since I read the books

[scenic sun]

post heresy they're all about getting possesed by deamons and fucking people up with them

cooperating with deamons and such

[spring cedar]

They pacifist before though

As much as they could be

[quasi wagon]

Word Bearers pre heresy were basically Black Templars but noble

[scenic sun]

Unless you said the emperor wasn't a god

[spring cedar]

Which got them an arsekicking

[quasi wagon]

They were cool

[spring cedar]

Aye exactly

[scenic sun]

True enough

together with the ultramarines they normally didn't fuck up the place too baddly

[hearty bluff]

Wouldn't the Alpha Legion be the most likely to win a battle with as little structural damage as possible given their affinity to subversion and sneaky shit?

[quasi wagon]

Yeah, the Emperor said to the Word Bearers they were not "fast enough", because they behaved like humans

[scenic sun]

what's the alpha legion? There's no such a thing as a 20th legion, there's only 19 17 legions in total!

[hearty bluff]

I am alpharius.

Or wait.

No it's him

Idk

[minor lance]

[scenic sun]

Alfarius is spy tf2

[quasi wagon]

Up to this day the Alpha legion still think they are the good guys

[hearty bluff]

But what if

They're right

[spring cedar]

Back was sorting cat out (in #pet-tide if interested) but I think what drew me to word bearers is the fact that they showed independence

[scenic sun]

I wish I knew something about the alpha legion , there's like a blank space in my brain where they should be

[spring cedar]

Despite it being absolutely abhorred by everybody else

[minor lance]

Also Salamanders. Because they're nice, wanna help, and like fire a lot.

And I can appreciate that.

Well, nice.

Nice for SMs

[scenic sun]

Ironic that the word bearers are the most enslaved to the chaos gods

with all their current worship

[quasi wagon]

The Salamanders are the only "true" good guys

[spring cedar]

Difference between enslaved and volunteered

[quasi wagon]

In 40k

[spring cedar]

They volunteered rather quickly

[scenic sun]

True enough, i'd say they're in that position voluntarly unlike some others

[spring cedar]

Lamenters are the true good guys, they just have issues

[minor lance]

Salamanders are great if you're... Y'know, human.

[scenic sun]

Ultramarines are kinda good too

[spring cedar]

Stop mentioning ultrasmurfs or I will burn you

[scenic sun]

Just like the Ultramarines burned monarchia

lololololol

[spring cedar]

Bloody goody two shoes

[quasi wagon]

At some point a second primarch will return, i hope it will be Vulcan

[spring cedar]

Genuinely hate how good the ultrasmurfs are

[minor lance]

Yes please.

[scenic sun]

I hope it's perturabo

[spring cedar]

Aren't there only two options?

[minor lance]

I wanna see him EXTRA ORKY. Not quite TTS style, but like

[scenic sun]

why? Cause he's my favourite, I don't care

[spring cedar]

I only see Vulkan or Horus as returning

[minor lance]

He has seen the WAAAGH!! energy

[scenic sun]

Horus?

ain't he DEAD DEAD

[minor lance]

He knows what it means to be a ROIGHT N PROPPAH GIT

[spring cedar]

Aye, there's a perfect seed of him

Floating around

[scenic sun]

like, soul gone dead?

[spring cedar]

Perfect clone* sorry

Untainted

[minor lance]

Also, Salamanders are green

[scenic sun]

wasn't that fulgrim?

that had a perfect clone?

[spring cedar]

Someone look up Trazyn or Viles collection

I know its in one of theirs

[quasi wagon]

I mean Johnson is an ice cold killer, dorn has issues, but Vulcan could make the Imperium a better place

[scenic sun]

nah, it's fulgrim's clone

that's the one trazyn has

[hearty bluff]

But what if the second and eleventh suddenly return? 👀

[scenic sun]

horus' clone was a pathetic copy that got killed by abbadon

[spring cedar]

Gimme Fulgrim back

[scenic sun]

based??

no

[spring cedar]

I remember crying when I read how it went down

[scenic sun]

I hate fulgrim

I hate this man too much, he can stay being a snake

[quasi wagon]

Second and eleventh are more than dead i think

[spring cedar]

Wasn't his choice man

[scenic sun]

debatable

[spring cedar]

He was fighting it the entire way

[scenic sun]

the deamonette figures got him acting unwise

[spring cedar]

Talking about the Dorn moment here

Which is what makes everybody hate Fulgrim

[scenic sun]

didn't they exorcise the daemon out of him but he was still like "Lol I'm still going to be an asshole"

[quasi wagon]

Fulgrim was really cool before his fall. One of my most favourite primarchs. Then he went full bdsm

[scenic sun]

no, I hate him because of what he did to Perty. Don't care about mr lego man

[late pagoda]

Joe found his home

[scenic sun]

yes

[spring cedar]

Dorn perfect primarch

[scenic sun]

now go away

[spring cedar]

wow rude

reported

[late pagoda]

HE just doesn't like me

[spring cedar]

my dad owns discord

[hearty bluff]

Lion el Johnson

[scenic sun]

yeah I don't like you vannox

[late pagoda]

Since I'm way more knowledgeable on lore than him (real)

[scenic sun]

I hate you UHHHHHH

[hearty bluff]

Lion el Is p cringe.

[spring cedar]

Lion el is eh

[scenic sun]

Lion is literally a walking gay joke

[spring cedar]

Same with uh

Can't remember, edgelord chapter dude

[scenic sun]

bruh

[hearty bluff]

Conrad Kurze?

[spring cedar]

"we sneak stelf boyz"

Yes

[hearty bluff]

Oh!

[scenic sun]

Batman but he's the joker

[spring cedar]

Kurze is a shitter

[hearty bluff]

Conrad Kurze is such a dingus

[spring cedar]

"yes i am secret almighty spy boi, u cant touch me"

[hearty bluff]

Don't mind me gonna scare the shit out of everyone.

[scenic sun]

honestly, maybe I just like assholes but I like Kurze

[quasi wagon]

I think Ferrus Manus needs more love in the lore. Even some authors said they did him dirty in the early horus heresy books.

[scenic sun]

he's funny as fuck

[hearty bluff]

Idk if you mean corvus on Konrad lol

[spring cedar]

Ferrus Manus was gold

CORVUS yes

[hearty bluff]

Ferrus Manus is underappreciated I feel.

[spring cedar]

Dark or night something

THe legion that is

[scenic sun]

Was gonna say you can't really hate konrad after he called Guilliman a "Avenging bean counter"

[spring cedar]

Basically just pure edgelord

[hearty bluff]

Night lords are so edgy

[spring cedar]

I may have had a few drinks, so I'll be mixing all kidns of things up

Night lords that's what their bloody name is

[scenic sun]

Dude every space marine except the Salamanders, ultramarines and Imperial fists are edgy

[spring cedar]

I beg to differ

[scenic sun]

let us be honest here

[hearty bluff]

I mean.

[quasi wagon]

Well "Space Batman" hated his own legion

[spring cedar]

Blood ravens aren't edgy

[scenic sun]

Chance accepted, differ and tell me

[spring cedar]

They're just polish

[scenic sun]

Accepted, but we don't know where they come from,

[spring cedar]

Poland

[scenic sun]

they could be ultrasmurf succesors

[spring cedar]

lmao

[hearty bluff]

I can't really disagree on the edge comment lol

[spring cedar]

Oh god I'm sorry

[quasi wagon]

Blood Ravens had some early lore pointing to Thousand Sons

[scenic sun]

I say this as a "Bitter siege masters" Iron warriors fan. They are edgy fuckers, I don't give a shit, they are metal and idc

[hearty bluff]

Though I can't see much edginess of Caius Kantor and the crimson fists

[spring cedar]

Iron warriors are Dorn right

Just to reaffirm myself

[hearty bluff]

Peturabo

[scenic sun]

Oh no, that's why I said the Iron fists aren't really edgy (discounting the black templars lol)

[spring cedar]

"Bitter siege masters" sounds like dorn though

OH

[scenic sun]

Iron warriors hated dorn lol

[quasi wagon]

Iron warriors are the mortal enemies of Imperial Fists

[hearty bluff]

Peter rabbit

[scenic sun]

they're his biggest rivals lmfao

[spring cedar]

Okay yeah now I get it lmao

Sorry, my mind is backwards at the moment

[scenic sun]

no worries

[spring cedar]

Actually in tyears from laughter

[hearty bluff]

Didn't Perturabo get done dirty in the lore?

[spring cedar]

He chaos

[scenic sun]

to be fair perty and dorn weren't that different, Dorn just liked to repress his feelings until he exploded

[spring cedar]

Dorn had giant space rock

[hearty bluff]

Idk what happened to him but I know he fell to chaos but idk why or how lol

[spring cedar]

Thats a big difference

[scenic sun]

Yeah, kinda, yeah. He quite literally got the Mobian sixth treatment

[quasi wagon]

Perturabo always wanted to be a builder, but was pressed into the profession of a warrior

[spring cedar]

Did Perturabo have big space rock?

No he did not

[scenic sun]

he fought hard, thankless battles. And got shit for it

[quasi wagon]

And the Iron warriors were always treated like a second range legion

[scenic sun]

No one gave credit, he coped, coped harder when the emperor told him he wouldn't be building the imperial palace, bombed his homeworld after a rebellion and had mental breakdown, killed his sister

[hearty bluff]

Bruh

[scenic sun]

aaand joined horus cause he was scared of what the emperor would do to him for his crimes

[spring cedar]

Honestly that's just any bloody primarch ever

They never got thanked for shit

[hearty bluff]

Crys and bombs his own world

[spring cedar]

Unless it was Sanguinius

[scenic sun]

nah

bobbie was praised

so was the lion, dorn... fucking horus

[tired umbra]

Peter Turbo was so god damn buttmad

[scenic sun]

was too

[hearty bluff]

Going postal on a galactic scale

[spring cedar]

Was Horus actually praised?

Or was he just in a lucky position?

[scenic sun]

Honestly I love the smackdown his sister gave her just before she got killed by him. She literally killed him with words

[spring cedar]

First one found means inherent priority

[tired umbra]

I don't think you know what literally means.

[quasi wagon]

Angron had the best lore. Before the butchers nails, he had the psychic ability of taking the pain away from the people who surrounded him. He was the most empathic primarch. And that broke him

[spring cedar]

Angron had the best lore but his legion was fucking shite

[scenic sun]

true, not literally, but... a part of him did die that day

and... horus was made warmaster. That's high praise

[spring cedar]

Horus was the first to be found Joe

Hence, is that praise or positioning

[scenic sun]

Uhhhh

[hearty bluff]

Wasn't the wolf boy found second ?

[scenic sun]

want me to spoil you?

[spring cedar]

Horus didn't have anything unique

Yes please

[scenic sun]

Horus wasn't the first to be found

[spring cedar]

I'm a xenos

[scenic sun]

but that's a reveal

Alpharius was the first to be found, he was on Terra

[spring cedar]

Oh shit, really?

[scenic sun]

He landed on fucking Terra, and Malcador trained him

yeah

[spring cedar]

Fucking hell hahahaha

[scenic sun]

His twin, Omegon, was the last to be found

[spring cedar]

Omegon died and Alpharius went mad

Or something like that, right?

[scenic sun]

or was it Alpharius who died and omegon who went mad?

Ahhh... no one knows, we know one is dead

[spring cedar]

OH

Thats how it was

[quasi wagon]

Magnus was ment to sit on the golden throne. Imagine that.

[spring cedar]

We just know one is dead the other is insane

lmao

Magnus has the power to do it

And I approve of magnus

[hearty bluff]

I wonder

[scenic sun]

magnus honestly is crazy OP and should've been able to destroy the wolf

if he wanted

I belive

[spring cedar]

Magnus is a lot of things

But he's not a fucking quitter

[quasi wagon]

Well Magnus could destroy the wolf

[spring cedar]

Isn

't Magnus an independent prince of chaos?

[quasi wagon]

To some degree

[spring cedar]

Forgot the name of them

[quasi wagon]

But Tzeenth has many plans

[spring cedar]

But Malice tier

[hearty bluff]

Who's malice?

[scenic sun]

I am pretty sure he is tzeench's puppet, but don't know much

[spring cedar]

RUDE

[wet dirge]

<@&735928989146939404> Excuse me, but I would like to someone about a project I'm working on about warhammer. This is probably the biggest thing I'll ever do and I would like to ask you about it to make sure I can send this up to the developers of this game to get their opinion as well.

[scenic sun]

Reminder that the sons of Malal are cannon

[spring cedar]

I would like to someone about a project

wot

[cerulean wagon]

probably something for @lime crane to answer, i'd what the standard for that kinda thing is, if we do it at all

[spring cedar]

Guys this is a new kind of code

[hearty bluff]

Oh yeah didn't they try and eat an inquisitor or something?

[quasi wagon]

Magnus tried to kill his own legion after the change to automatons. Tzeenth told him directly "Do not kill my minions. All according to plan" 🤣

[scenic sun]

I don't know really

I just know they exist

[wet dirge]

thank you. I shall wait here for his response.

[scenic sun]

and hate all other chaos legions even more

[spring cedar]

Apollo, if you want warhammer lore, bribe them to get in touch with Abnett

I'd sell my house for a 5 minute conversation

[shell fox]

@burnt plover is not a developer but he's been making a huge warhammer fantasy project himself, he might be interested

[scenic sun]

I just can't wait to see if the Iron Warriors restablish the empire of Iron once again

And see what the world eaters are going to do now that angron's comming back

[spring cedar]

I can't wait for the eldar uprising

I want space elves all over the galaxy

[wet dirge]

I may, however this is something much bigger than most things. I can talk to him, but it isn't a story that I'm doing persay.

[scenic sun]

Toaster that'd be amazing but sadly GW hates Elves

[spring cedar]

Apollo, you might want to specify, are you doing Warhammer fantasy or Warhamer 40k

You just left it kind of ambiguous

[scenic sun]

although they recently gained a tournament that has gone cannon, so yay elves!

[spring cedar]

I'm glad

I mean

[wet dirge]

@burnt plover may I pm you to tell you my plans for my Warhammer project?

[hearty bluff]

I really wanna see some imperial guard models that aren't cadian, catachan or krieg

I remember they had vostroyan and some tallarn riders a few years ago

[scenic sun]

they have gaunt's ghosts too

so that's cool

[spring cedar]

I was about to make a sly marbo joke

Never mention catachan again

[naive oyster]

You also had the FW Elysian Drop Troops for a while as well

[hearty bluff]

Oh yeah I remember the elysians

[scenic sun]

Elysians are cool, can we get mobian sixth models GW?

we need traitor guardsmen on table top

[spring cedar]

👀

[hearty bluff]

That'd be cool

[spring cedar]

You guys actually have models?!

[atomic pelican]

KT has them which bangs

Honestly with new guardsmen rules, you could p easily make a match

[naive oyster]

I remember the old old pewter Guard models, of Vallaha, Mordia and Praetoria being sold

[spring cedar]

Only time I've touched models was when I was removing fluff

[hearty bluff]

I'd love some mordant acid dogs

[scenic sun]

it's a table top game with pretty open ended lore, if you want to use KT models i doubt anyone but the most strict of GW store managers will complain

[spring cedar]

I've got OCD, so I've never been able to get myself models

I can remove the fluff for people and be paid for it

But I don't know how to paint

[scenic sun]

don't if you have OCD, I've only painted two chaos space marines myself and it is helish to get stripes right

[spring cedar]

And I'll absolutely die from anxiety if I have unpainted models

Oh no, I know, I can remove the fluff perfectly

And quickly

But I wont attempt to paint

[hearty bluff]

I think I've got some primaris and necrons to paint

[spring cedar]

I love the act of removing excess from models

[hearty bluff]

I can't be bothered 😂

[spring cedar]

But the moment that excess is done, it needs to be removed from me

I have zero artistic skills, so it gives me anxiety to know I'll fuck it up

[scenic sun]

heard knights or titans are great to paint and learn, you got lots of stuff to do your own thing

buut... the price

[spring cedar]

Again, I'll never want to paint

I'm not a creative or artistic person

Removing excess is immensely satisfactory to me

[atomic pelican]

Models are more like a coloring book than actual painting at the easier methods

[spring cedar]

I used to make rings and shape them etc

So never anything artistic in and of itself, but I prepped things for it

Damn, I managed to kill a chat on this server of all places

[hearty bluff]

Sorry was just looking at Imperial guard regiments.

I wish the lesser known ones had a tad more lore to them.

[lime crane]

Feel free to pop a DM. Note I'm not James Workshop so limited in my scope of help

[spring cedar]

Oh fair

I didn't even know individual regiments HAD lore to them

[hearty bluff]

It's mainly like the Mordant Acid dogs, but all they get is some fluff in an out of date codex lol

[spring cedar]

Honestly, when I got into 40k lore at first, Iw as annoyed at how everybody was a loyalist

And like, people weren't even edgy and liking chaos or drukhari

So I did my best to avoid all imperium lore

Aside fro mCiaphas Cain

[hearty bluff]

Haha, some of the chaos marines are quite cool imo.

[scenic sun]

imperium is the face of the setting, you kinda have to read about them

[hearty bluff]

Ciaphas Cain and Severina Raine are two of my favourite commissars

[spring cedar]

I'm forever ork

[hearty bluff]

I also enjoy orks

It's a simple life.

[spring cedar]

Aye I know Joe

[hearty bluff]

Go and krump

[spring cedar]

"aye u wantz ta buy dakka bu' no teef?"

"punch yter mate"

Drunken ork attempt failed

[warm lodge]

I'm pretty sure this bit has already been thought of by someone, but I think it'd be an interesting tidbit if the Mourningstar or other 40k faction found the voyager golden record but were so changed by time they couldn't recognize the images or songs of their own species and hailed it as an alien artifact

[hearty bluff]

My girlfriend turned around to me the other day asking why I liked the orks, so I showed her the pancreasnowork video on them and now she understands lol

[scenic sun]

Things like that already happened in the lore funny enough

Pancreasnowork lol, fav youtuber

[spring cedar]

I've tried for two years to get my wife into the 40k universe

But she ONLY cares when I talk about orks

[atomic pelican]

You dont have to read a lick of Imperium if youre powerful enough

[hearty bluff]

Cracking Boyz open with a cold one

Orkz are so simple, I enjoy it

[spring cedar]

Orkz be best

[scenic sun]

Funny how the space marines are supposed to be the begginer-attractive faction

Then you have the orks hoarding everyone lol

[spring cedar]

Honestly no

Surface orkz are common, yeah

But the moment anyone reads just a tiny bit into 40k

[hearty bluff]

I've always gone by go with the faction who's lore and design you love the most

[spring cedar]

Okay that was a fir removal

Fair

[scenic sun]

You have to be very stuck up to dislike the orks, they may not be everyone's favourite but they catch new people's attention

[spring cedar]

Nah, to dislike orks you just need to know about their culture

[hearty bluff]

Just so happens that krumping and waaaghing is a good past time

[scenic sun]

Kultur

[spring cedar]

Orks are like extra-grimdark humour

[scenic sun]

Sey it roig zog it

[hearty bluff]

it's the power of belief that I find funny lol

[spring cedar]

Hahahha yeah

And most people have no idea thats a thing

[atomic pelican]

Im p sure 2022 has been a year of balancing in terms of sales. Personal anecdote of course, but I see more Necron players than marines now

[spring cedar]

Red makes you og fasta

[atomic pelican]

My store is somewhat of a outlier, we have 1 loyalist marine player and everyone else is xenos or chaos

[spring cedar]

Yellow give bigger boom

[scenic sun]

Necron supremacy less go

Long live the infinite empire

[atomic pelican]

It probably helps that loyalist sm might be the worst army in the game post guard launch

Technically already worse statistically

[hearty bluff]

I'm personally an IG fan because nothing is better than being your average Joe Smith in a world where death is bloody and brutal but at least the explosions are cool lol

[scenic sun]

Meh, I believe most players don't care if their army is balanced

They collect cause they like them

[atomic pelican]

Its a mix

They might collect them but not play yhem if theyre bad

Thus why I might not be seeing them

Theres a difference between being okay with losing and losing every game

[scenic sun]

Weird how a lot of big YouTubers and other big names are space marine fans though

[atomic pelican]

Alot of those ppl dont play the game

[spring cedar]

Space marine is an easy thing to fanboy

[atomic pelican]

And also yeah marines are just popular

[scenic sun]

Valrak does I belive

Luetin I am not sure

[hearty bluff]

I like space marines but it's the ultra marines I dislike just in being poster boys lol

[scenic sun]

Ultramarines are cool if you just like practical stuff

[hearty bluff]

They're good at everything but specialise in nothing

[scenic sun]

Or the most level-headed space marine, the most "average Joe" of there can be a average Joe space marine

During Matt ward's era yeah they were annoying, now they're just jack of all trades, let us be sensible and flexible in how we conduct warfare

[hearty bluff]

I like the red scorpions cuz they're all secret and isolated from everyone else with suggested links to Belisarius

But the minotaurs are great cuz they're just anti space marine space marine douches

[scenic sun]

Their big boy almost killed or killed a custodes

I belive

Which is... Wow

[hearty bluff]

But then it begs the question of, where did the minotaurs come from?

[scenic sun]

Iron warriors

I will not discuss this

[arctic talon]

Moloc didn't fight Valerian at all

but Valerian didn't see a way to end the fight in seconds

which is how custodes usually fight duels

[hearty bluff]

But what if they're thunder warrior descendants?

[arctic talon]

but there was a custodes who got mobbed by 3 minotaurs

and died

[scenic sun]

Fair

Custodes are like actual menaces, top of the food chain

Weird how no one hates them for being Mary Sues (I don't)

[spring cedar]

Probably because they don't spread at the same rate as the tyranids and ultrasmurfs

[arctic talon]

They're still mary sue as fuck

I don't hate them

but some people who play them are fucking atrocious lol

[storm jungle]

A lot of people actually do

their subreddit also bitches a lot about how custodes can die to anything like a normal human can, for example a genestealer cultist with a mining laser

[dusk patrol]

Tbh

Every fucking person in 40k is a Mary Sue

Like every single faction is ruled by Mary Sues

[tired umbra]

Except Jurgen

Because JUrgen is a good boy

[dusk patrol]

Jurgen is the Merriest of the Sues

[tired umbra]

How very dare you

[dusk patrol]

It’s a worthless term

[arctic talon]

Deus ex jurgen

[dusk patrol]

What matters is: Is book good

Custodes have almost all good books

So I like them

[atomic pelican]

The difference between custodes and marine fans is that usually marines fan atleast recognize mary sue moments

Custodes fans want more of them

[storm jungle]

^

Custodes are wanked endlessly

[atomic pelican]

And actively get pissy if they aren't wanked

[storm jungle]

YEP.

They still bitch about harlequins murdering a few of them to this day, its hilarious

[atomic pelican]

Esp when your entire faction is just being Marines+

[dusk patrol]

I mean we can generalize about faction fans all we want

[storm jungle]

Not really

at the end of the day most of their fans are elitist assholes

literally everyone knows this and mocks them for it

[atomic pelican]

Reminds me of every harle fan being alright with the nerfs vs custodes getting nerfed after hitting like a 60% W/R and fuming because their busted stratagems got limited

[dusk patrol]

Like if we’re just taking the worst of every fandom then CWE fans are literally incapable of not complaining every single day about their faction. Like every faction has shit fans.

[storm jungle]

Custodes are still the worst

Its more the after-effect of your faction being advertised as the best of the best endlessly and doing shit like murdering an entire hivefleet with just 4 custodians

[atomic pelican]

Yeah Custodes are p easily the worst

[dusk patrol]

Tau fans when you bring up the Tau aren’t good guys for example

[atomic pelican]

Other than maybe like

Black Templar/Dkok

[storm jungle]

CWE and Tau get leeway because their authors hate them

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

[dusk patrol]

I mean at a certain point idc much, it’s just annoying

[atomic pelican]

Now that I think abt it I actually find Dkok shovelposting more tolerable

[dusk patrol]

Idc who you’re a fan for but if youre just bringing other factions down or other fandoms down

[atomic pelican]

Than Custodeez "Yeah well 1 guy could easily solo all of the eye"

[dusk patrol]

Which I find plenty of all fandoms do

And I’ve never seen a fandom who doesn’t wank their own faction

[storm jungle]

Again

custodes do it way more

its genuinely not the same thing, at all

when Shadow Throne was coming out they were up in arms about GSC being able to go up against them lmao

r40klore lit up with like 20-30 threads in a single day

[atomic pelican]

Shadow Throne remains the best boxset for the sheer monument against the mustard crusaders it represents

[dusk patrol]

And I see Eldar and Tau fans bitch in their about stupid shit everyday too

Like, every group has toxic assholes

It just tends to pendulum around which one you see more on certain subs

But I’ve seen cycles of almost every faction being insufferable

[storm jungle]

Custodes dont get shat on in every book and engagement they take part in

for starters at least

[dusk patrol]

And Tau and Eldar don’t either

[storm jungle]

Yes

they do

LMAO

[atomic pelican]

literal bait

[storm jungle]

Have you read like any eldar or tau material

at all

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[atomic pelican]

Hang on gotta install the "delete blocked messages" plugin again

Can't handle the attention crying

[storm jungle]

Shadows over Heaven for example i presume?

[dusk patrol]

Valedor for example is a great example for the Eldar

[storm jungle]

Ah yes

pick the only good eldar book that isnt written by gav

[dusk patrol]

Like I agreed they have shit books, but it’s just endless bitching at this point

It gets super old

[rose thorn]

Almost every faction gets fucked over unless they are literally almost gods lmao

[storm jungle]

Marines Moment

I dont see a space marine cower in fear at the sight of a chaos marine approaching

[dusk patrol]

Marines have a ton of dogshit books tbh

[storm jungle]

They can be dogshit yet still be wank

[dusk patrol]

I mean either way it’s still a shit book

Idc what way it goes

[rose thorn]

A fucking knight Castellan, the biggest and strongest from of imperial knight, got fucking destroyed by a single ork

Cannonically

[dusk patrol]

Path of the Drukhari was a great series and I don’t care about Drukhari

[storm jungle]

Again, not written by gav

so natural for it to be good

[dusk patrol]

Ok but so? I never said I like Gav.

My point is it’s always just negative Nancy stuff

[rose thorn]

And a warlord titan got destroyed by like what, 4 orks?

[dusk patrol]

Over like decade old books

[storm jungle]

Its not when its really deserved

[dusk patrol]

Or longer

[spring cedar]

I just found out my wife never watched Hannibal

should I get a divorce?

[dusk patrol]

Imperator titans literally, have one appearance where it doesn’t get destroyed in the same book.

[storm jungle]

It doesnt really matter when its the only lore material book-wise the factions get

Marines you can ignore since they get shitty book releases daily

most other factions like xenos get stuck with 4-6 if they are lucky

[dusk patrol]

There’s plenty of marine fans who have just as much right to be upset tbh

Raven Guard fans get Jack shit

Iron Hands aren’t written well mostly

Salamanders are stuck with Kyme

[storm jungle]

They still get something

so again 💀

[dusk patrol]

Raven Guard literally have no books

[rose thorn]

Hey we have the worst audio drama!

[dusk patrol]

Outside of one heresy book

[rose thorn]

That’s something

And it’s not even that bad just boring

[dusk patrol]

Eldar have several good books if we’re like, doing a book by book thing, my point is it doesn’t always have to be so negative

[rustic spruce]

blood ravens were forced to be in dawn of war 3. a truly terrible fate.

[storm jungle]

By several you mean like 10

Marines get clusters

[dusk patrol]

That’s more than most factions get

Ad Mech have like, one trilogy

[storm jungle]

And its a good one

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

so doesnt exactly add up

fans got the right to be pissed when the only reading material of their faction is dogshit lmao

[rustic spruce]

what books do the orks get

[storm jungle]

Brutal Kunning and uh

[atomic pelican]

Prophet of the WAAGH

and brutal kunning

[storm jungle]

and that

[atomic pelican]

are both good, so I've heard

[rose thorn]

Every warhammer game

Oh and being dead!

[storm jungle]

Xenos basically get nothing

[rose thorn]

Oh but aren’t they getting a. New grot book?

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are

the communist goblin one

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they can be upset, and I can get tired of the same exact bitching dialogue tree every single day from them on every forum for 40k

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

I have a small question. Which order has the most terminators in use?

[dusk patrol]

Like I get Iron Hands fans being upset

But it’s a dead horse

[rustic spruce]

are grots just small orks or do they come from a different fungus

[rose thorn]

Isn’t it continuing a book from like, 3rd edition?

The uh, one with the humans who act like orks

[storm jungle]

Nah its unrelated

[storm jungle]

Same fungus

[charred tulip]

same fungus, different critters

[storm jungle]

they are goblins, not orcs

just have a copyrightable name

[charred tulip]

that said, warhammer fantasy had goblins be technically capable of reaching orky sizes, like Grom the Paunch, or the universally-despised Hobgoblins

presumably 40k being as much of a meatgrinder as it is is why you don't see grot equivalents

[storm jungle]

Nah

its just lazy writing

[charred tulip]

at the same time you've got snotlings (smaller, actually retarded goblins) and a whole shitload of kinds of squigs (teeth with legs as a rule, ork dinosaurs as an exception) also from the same fungi, forming a self-contained ecosystem of orkiness

[plush mason]

the Iron Hands actually got written about?

[plush mason]

isnt squig shit vital to grow new orks or something like that?

[dusk patrol]

They have a two or three books I believe in which I don’t know if I’d say they’re bad necessarily, but it doesn’t really do with the faction what I think makes interesting about them, and it makes them less cold and calculating, and like morally uninvolved and more just easily offended or being jerks for no real reason

[charred tulip]

I don't know about shit but they're both an essential lower food chain item and used for all kinds of nonsensical utilities

[storm jungle]

Orks all grow from fungus

Squigs are just tools to the orks

if you see a daily life object

theres a squig version of it

[dusk patrol]

Which was kind of nice about the iron hands is there at the end of the day they split into a bunch of different clans so it could be kind of hard to nail down one specific culture about them but authors and I think games workshop in general has a particular idea they want for them, which I personally don’t really enjoy

[storm jungle]

its their jack-of-all trades basically

[plush mason]

so table squigs

[storm jungle]

If theres a boombox squig then theres a tablesquig

[plush mason]

lol true

[storm jungle]

theres also literal oil squigs

its great

[rustic spruce]

then there's the squiggoth

mightiest of all

[dusk patrol]

I iron hands are one of those chapters where I think the idea of them is extremely cool, but for whatever reason they never really got an author attach them who wanted to do anything with them and unfortunately, they kind of missed the bus I never having much of a impact in the heresy series

Fortunately, I am here to keep the entire chapter stocked with characters purely from my Deathwatch RPG list

[rustic spruce]

do titans need to be deployed if the orks build a gargant

[arctic talon]

no

[plush mason]

that or special titan killers like the shadowsword

[ripe ravine]

the David Guymer books are actually pretty solid, but it's just a retelling of their codex supplement

[midnight jetty]

they can get pretty deep if you delve into their physique. Sort of a extended self harm coping after daddy died. The forge father has added a new dynamic.

[spring cedar]

Can you mention one time the imperium went against a gargant without titans?

They deploy titans for way less when it comes to ork infestations

[plush mason]

where there titans in helsreach?

[naive oyster]

Legio Invigilata, was at Helsreach

[spring cedar]

The Legio Invigilata fielded 19 Titans at Helsreach

[plush mason]

k

[ripe ravine]

I'm sure there are examples of the Imperium fighting gargants without titans but probably due to lack of resources

[spring cedar]

The primary method of eradication when it comes to orks is exterminatus

[ripe ravine]

that said do not underestimate the trusty shadowsword

[spring cedar]

So what you fight isn't the issue

It's about what you need to utilise to win

Titans have defences against exterminatus if sufficiently advanced

Istvan is a glorious example of that

[ashen shoal]

Well, titans can survive a virus bomb exterminatus, presumably they probably can't survive a two-stage cyclonic torpedo exterminatus that blows up the planet itself

[dusk patrol]

I think I remember those books being pretty good yeah

[ripe ravine]

otherwise you're right they got a raw deal in the heresy and nobody has really attempted an ongoing modern era series

[plush mason]

if thats the case than any battle with the orks is just an automatic net loss for the imperium

[spring cedar]

Yes?

That's why a certain inquisitor pitted the nids and orks against eachother

And sacrificed an entire system

[plush mason]

that was not at all a normal thing tho

[severe trout]

whassa difference between a force sword and a power sword? Is one like powered by lasers and the other powered by brain...lasers?

[plush mason]

hell it literally got kryptman excommunicated

[ripe ravine]

yeah the force sword I think is psyker powered

power sword is just not-a-lightsaber

[severe trout]

gotcha! Do they act differently in game, like?

[spring cedar]

It wasn't a normal thing but it was effective

[ripe ravine]

fr it's an actual blade with an energy field

[spring cedar]

Once your planet is infested by orks its nigh impossible to get rid of

[plush mason]

it wasnt about the orks tho

[spring cedar]

No, but he knew how to utilise the resilience of the orks

[ripe ravine]

in darktide? not sure, presumably force sword would be psyker only

[spring cedar]

Because the two of them create a stalemate

[ashen shoal]

I think the power sword in game can literally bisect enemies if you turn on the blade, but the force sword can only behead people

[plush mason]

and now the imperium is sending in the DKOK to fix that mess he made

[severe trout]

ah yes, selective dismemberment! must be a psyker thing

also power shovel when

[spring cedar]

And you no doubt have faith the imperium will succeed

[plush mason]

im just saying i dont recall any other ork invasion ending in an exterminatus unless the world was lost to them

[ripe ravine]

force weapons are equipped with a psi-convector, which is basically a fantasy magic focus

it helps concentrate and direct a psyker's natural energy

[ashen shoal]

The whole octarius war seems to have basically ended in a tentative Tyranid victory. The Swarmlord showed up and killed the Overfiend, and the Orks are basically fragmented after that and are spilling out of Octarius to do other things

[plush mason]

so all kryptman did was buy time

[ashen shoal]

yup, the eldar did get involved at one point and deployed some doomsday weapons to try to curb the war, but the end result is that the Tyranids won

[plush mason]

i wonder if that means the main body of leviathan will continue on to sol, assuming kryptman was right and that it is the hivefleet's goal

[dusk patrol]

It’s basically what his goal was at first anyways

Ideally they’d destroy one another but without his gambit a massive swathe of the Imperium gets blindsided and destroy

[plush mason]

still the octarius war is not a good example of how the imperium normally handles ork invasions

namely cause no ork invasion was involved in starting it afaik

[ashen shoal]

Yeah there's plenty of actual novels that depict how at least space marines deal with Ork invasions, like Rynn's World

Or there's the whole War of the Beast series

Death or Glory also covers the guard dealing with an Ork invasion

[plush mason]

and i doubt any of those end with the planet being exterminatused after they win

[ashen shoal]

Most planets are too valuable to just virus bomb and rebuild everything. Cheaper to just keep your garrison around and send them to cull Orks and burn things as needed

[dusk patrol]

Well Octarius wasn’t really about the Orks

[plush mason]

ye

[dusk patrol]

They were just the unintentional “bait” or useful enemy

[plush mason]

yeah iirc kryptman's original plan was to just starve the nids on their way to terra

[dusk patrol]

Basically, he eventually led them to Octarius to kill two birds with one stone or stall them

[plush mason]

ye

[stark frigate]

I'm glad how much the Devs have been faithful to lore

[spring cedar]

Devs?

Mate they have Abnett whipping them the moment they try to deviate

lmao

They chose to work with a cornerstone of the 40k universe

They have fuck all to say

[dusk patrol]

I mean they did the same with Vermintide, I doubt they were out to fuck up the lore

[stark frigate]

THE Dan Abnett?

[dusk patrol]

They clearly are invested in both universes

[stark frigate]

No wonder the lores on point

[spring cedar]

Aye

Abnett is writing this

Thats literally the only reason I bought this

[stark frigate]

Tanith cosmetic in store when

[spring cedar]

Abnett fangirl100%achieved

[stark frigate]

Tanith cosmetic for Veteran would be amazing

[spring cedar]

I'm a xeno not a loyalist :c

[ashen shoal]

Abnett does have the upside/downside of generally writing very heavily nerfed marines compared to every other author it seems

[spring cedar]

I still love his writing

Aye, Abnett is more down to earth

And he fleshes out characters

[stark frigate]

[spring cedar]

Third book of the heresy, nothing made me cry as much

[plush mason]

ngl that is only a downside if you are a SM simp/brainlet so

[spring cedar]

That fucker knew how to play peoples emotion

Poor Ignace

I was so angry afterward

[ashen shoal]

Well, I'm not really a fan of how the way he has the regular people kill marines is by having the marines suffer from plot induced stupidity and wander out into the open where 100 people can open fire on them

[spring cedar]

He fleshed out what was already there Mundus

GW controls the narrative

[ashen shoal]

I simply want more authors to clown on loyalist marines, it's always the chaos marines that suffer from stupidity

[spring cedar]

Abnett does what he can to rescue their plot holes

[ashen shoal]

but of course you can't do anything mean to the loyalists, because that would mean less plastic sales

[spring cedar]

Dunno

The xenos codices arent too bad mate

It's just a matter of advertisement

[ashen shoal]

Well, there was that weird Dark Angels post primaris novel with the Tau

[spring cedar]

It's easier to understand xenos and move your way toward the imperium

Than the other way around

But GW hasn't worked that out yet

[plush mason]

tbf being stupid is literally a core part of the world eater's battle tactics just charging head long into no man's land screaming blood for the blood god

[ashen shoal]

I mean, it's worked pretty well for Kharn over all these years

[plush mason]

ye

it works, its still stupid as hell but it works

[spring cedar]

You guys seem to forget that loyalism is what GW wants from most people

[ashen shoal]

Honestly Lucius is my least favorite character in the setting still, he feels like someone's overpowered OC

[spring cedar]

ANd the moment people learn more about the 40k universe, they know they'll hate the imperium

[ashen shoal]

"My character is the best, even if you kill him, he'll just hijack your body, so he wins anyways"

[spring cedar]

So the imperium is a prime starting point when you dont know how filthy they are

[storm jungle]

Abnett isnt overseeing everything about the game

[spring cedar]

No I know. I was referring to story wise

[plush mason]

hell rn the xeno armies are outselling the SM armies iirc

[storm jungle]

[spring cedar]

You don't hire Abnett for writing

And ignore him

[storm jungle]

Marines always sell more, they are sadly more or so always on a pedestal that cant be replaced

[crisp heath]

Witchfinder? Are you responsible for my arrest and why I am in this mess now!?

[spring cedar]

Witchfinder is responsible for insulting my ego

[storm jungle]

Uh no i just thought it sounded cool as a title and its my 40k OCs profession so eh

[spring cedar]

reported to discord

my dad owns it

[storm jungle]

[plush mason]

fucking banana helmet

[spring cedar]

fucking lmao

[storm jungle]

KEK

[spring cedar]

I noticed that too

[plush mason]

i hate that craftworld just for their colors

[storm jungle]

Hey fuck you

Alaitoc is great

[plush mason]

ye they have great lore, but shit colors

[spring cedar]

;_;

[storm jungle]

the helmets for the guardians though uh yeah

💀

[plush mason]

bananas

[dusk patrol]

Marines typically outsell all other factions combined

[spring cedar]

Space elf confirmed

[dusk patrol]

I seriously doubt Xenos are outselling them

Maybe for like, brief periods after model releases or something

[spring cedar]

If I were more sober

i wouldve pointed out my merchant teef ork guild

that i forgot the name of

[storm jungle]

thats mostly because Marines are your super basic space-trooper man with a gun, they have been on a pedestal forever and cannot be beat.

It's not like AOS where factions with actually cool aesthetics usually equally get a good share of the attention cake

[spring cedar]

they would outsell everybody with their teef

[storm jungle]

this post was made by the Nagash Gang

[stark frigate]

i have a hairbrained idea that they could add in darktide, What if we meet the Rogue traders retinue for certain missions, shops or future DLC?

[plush mason]

iirc someone in this discord said it was because 9e made the SMs like the 2nd worst army so a lot of SM players started buying other armies but i may be misremembering

[spring cedar]

Bad moons!

[storm jungle]

Rogue Traders might already be involved

unless the prop department got it wrong the front banners of the morning star got the RG logo

[stark frigate]

They are, they own the ship we're on apparently from dialogue

[storm jungle]

Yeee

[ashen shoal]

the lady that commands the ship is a rogue trader, I've heard dialogue in the game that explicitly refer to it yeah

[storm jungle]

yep

[dusk patrol]

Makes sense

[storm jungle]

i mostly stitched it together from the banners

[stark frigate]

Would be cool maybe seeing an eldar or tau who the Rogue trader hired and they give us special missions

or, future DLC missions

[storm jungle]

we shall see

[ashen shoal]

shame that you don't meet her ever though, honestly not a fan of the story cutscenes at all tbh

[dusk patrol]

One look at her hairstyle was enough tbh

[stone river]

Years since the last guard codex release, new models, new variants. Soon we will take our rightful place as the best selling army… and then I’ll be priced out of everything

[storm jungle]

What do you mean

didnt you like the super not obvious plot twist

[plush mason]

if you have subtitles on the lady's name is shown in the intro

[storm jungle]

especially who the amogus impostor was

[spring cedar]

ok warden reported for spoilers

[stark frigate]

Some of the cutscenes definitely need some polish

[spring cedar]

my dad owns tencent

[storm jungle]

ITS LITERALLY IN THE GAME

[sly trench]

When the inquisitor said that and then immediately said to step your game up, I couldn't stop laughing

[storm jungle]

NOOO

[ashen shoal]

It was hilarious how they introduce this traitor plotline, and then you literally never interact with that aspect at all, and then the plot wraps itself up completely out of your control

[spring cedar]

enjoy ban

:c

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

You do know we haven’t like

[storm jungle]

Honestly im gonna spoiler my messages either way but imo it literally ruins nothing

[dusk patrol]

Played the campaign fully right?

[stark frigate]

Games not out yet

[storm jungle]

||I love how its literally a nobody Zealot the interrogator murders, even your character is like "Who the fuck was that"||

[ashen shoal]

We'll see in 9 days who's right

[stark frigate]

Dont care

[ashen shoal]

I doubt we'll have anything that's actually a story mission, it'll just be more busywork

[plush mason]

ye i doubt we have the full plot rn

[storm jungle]

yeah honestly im not super fussed

but like it really was funny

[stark frigate]

Game fun

[storm jungle]

yeee

[dusk patrol]

The story isn’t really the ship anyways

It’s the city

[storm jungle]

ok Dom Toretto

[stark frigate]

It just feels like all the devs went to bed and they forgot to press the "cycle missions" button before going to bed, so its chasm terminus for the 3rd day in a row

🧍‍♂️

[dusk patrol]

And fambly

[storm jungle]

HEY

LEMAN RUSS BATTLE TANK

THANKS MORROW WE GET IT

[ashen shoal]

I just want a mission that I can speedrun as fast as screaming bell so I can power level

[storm jungle]

CAN YOU LIKE, STOP

[stark frigate]

Let me go back to the surface mission!

[plush mason]

no he cant, he is from the steel legion

[stark frigate]

It was fun and cool!

[storm jungle]

god

i hate this

[dusk patrol]

Hey look

Not lore

[storm jungle]

its fiiine

not exactly derailing it

[dusk patrol]

Is it

IS IT

[storm jungle]

[spring cedar]

Is what derailing what?

Do you have any evidence?

[storm jungle]

lmao

[dusk patrol]

I’ll toast you

[spring cedar]

Suck it nerd

[storm jungle]

but yeah im still interested in the loose plot of the game, the soundtrack release does hint at a few things

[plush mason]

why do you have so many amoungus memes?

[storm jungle]

also that one backgroudn screen with the ACTUAL upper hive city looked fucking awesome

[dusk patrol]

Also you know

[spring cedar]

You have to admit though, it was fuckiong great wasnt it Witchfinder?

[storm jungle]

I'm in 90+ servers for emotes, dont ask

[storm jungle]

It was!

[dusk patrol]

Saltz VA is definitely gonna be the Inquisitor

And we haven’t seen him yet

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-suspect-among-us-gif-18663592

[ashen shoal]

I don't want to ever see them tbh, they're much better as a faceless entity that's so high up you don't even know what they look like for real

[dusk patrol]

yes I am using hyperbole by saying he definitely is gonna be the Inquisitor, it’s totally possible he’s someone else

[dusk patrol]

That tracks with the other opinions you’ve had

[ashen shoal]

dunno if that's supposed to be insulting, but sure, at least I'm internally consistent

[dusk patrol]

[spring cedar]

I just realised my post started a bad trend

Lets hope it gets forgotten soon

[dusk patrol]

Too late

:emergencymeeting: