40k-lore-chat

[mossy mortar]

Empires just love eagles

[storm jungle]

I think the less fascist imagery wehraboos can staple on guards the better

[mossy mortar]

what can you do

[storm jungle]

but its hard because the Imperium is filled with fascist imagery

[dusk patrol]

I mean, it’s a mostly fascist regime

[storm jungle]

yeah thats what I said

[dusk patrol]

People are gonna do it no matter what

[mossy mortar]

It goes beyond fascist id say

[storm jungle]

its pretty fascist

[copper cliff]

Mfw the faction is fascist but not that kind of fascist yikes

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

theres a reason the aquila is so angular and threatening

and no its not because of rome

[mossy mortar]

hehe

it's becasue of that one streetwear brand

Boy london

[dusk patrol]

Like, for it’s just, who cares? Nothing is gonna stop wehraboos

[copper cliff]

Romeaboos in the history department... 😔

[dusk patrol]

And say what you will about Nazi Germany, they had a good look

[mossy mortar]

the stahlhelm design is just a good design

everybody copied it

[copper cliff]

Nah, nazi soldiers had shit drip sorry.

[mossy mortar]

wow hot takes

[dusk patrol]

I would say objectively Nazis had a good look

[copper cliff]

Imma quote that

[plush mason]

they have some elements of german in their armor but its very much not the focus i agree

[dusk patrol]

There’s a reason it’s stuck around in fiction so much

[copper cliff]

Later

[mossy mortar]

evil is just too aesthetic

[copper cliff]

Fatigues with a dinky helmet is bad aesthetic

[plush mason]

the most german thing about DKOK is the helmet

[mossy mortar]

it's french coat, german helmet

[copper cliff]

And officer uniforms in general are terrible

[broken zenith]

good ol 3E Summer 2000 Third War for Armageddon global campaign, it was huge

[plush mason]

the gasmask is kinda close to the german guilly mask as well but ofc has the french tube and external filter

[broken zenith]

GW could never do such big global campaigns again after EoT debacle :c

[dusk patrol]

Yeah there’s a few elements, it’s kinda a WWI mishmash in some ways, but it’s mostly French as you say

[clever steppe]

Why do cadians have purple eyes?

[mossy mortar]

magic

[broken zenith]

cuz of EoT

[plush mason]

ye. hell one regiment of them literally use ww1 french army colors lol

[mossy mortar]

or leftover gene editing who knows

[broken zenith]

Eye of Terror affects them at genetic level, the same goes for Ulthwe

[dusk patrol]

The eye of terror

[broken zenith]

Ulthwe's close proximity to the Eye of Terror also had its toll on them, having the least number of Aspect Warriors compared to other Craftworlds

[mossy mortar]

There's probably all sorts of weird leftover gene therapy shti floating around in the imperial microbiome/virome

[clever steppe]

I figured it was warp stuff but i thought id ask here cuz quicker response time

[dusk patrol]

They used to stare into it as kids as a rite of passage

To kinda learn to resist its call

[mossy mortar]

Probably also the reason the average imperial solider appears to be like 6 feet tall with rippling biceps

Probably once gene editing gets big everyone will pay to make their kids 6'1" with 5% bodyfat

[dusk patrol]

Rippling **through layers of armor and trenchcoats **

Swole as fuck boi

[copper cliff]

TRASH

[mossy mortar]

Are we sure those aren't like coolant tubes or something

[copper cliff]

Lookin like two distinguished condoms

[mossy mortar]

might as well wear mcdonalds uniforms

[copper cliff]

But I'm generally very picky when it comes to army aesthetics. I like contrast which is why I love the flagship gear for Veteran with the urban camo pants and red shirt

[dusk patrol]

The important thing is: Mordians have the best look

Note, the tasteful shoulder tassels

The immaculate uniforms

The stylish hats

Oh my god, they even have side buttoned jackets

[mossy mortar]

what about the new space force uniforms

[copper cliff]

Mordians aesthetic is not for me

I like armor

And helmets

[plush mason]

i hate the iron guard with a passion. get back on the parade grounds you clowns is i would be able to say to them

[dusk patrol]

The tassels are a bit much I won’t lie

[copper cliff]

It looks like a halloween costume

[broken zenith]

Elysian best 😌

D-99 forever

[dusk patrol]

They’ll fuck you up, and they won’t dirty their jacket doing it

[mossy mortar]

i do like the Aliens style weird suit collars lol

[dusk patrol]

I just like them because they’re disciplined as fuck

[copper cliff]

Elysians are pretty dripped out

[mossy mortar]

the beige poopy suit

[dusk patrol]

Mordians are what people think Krieg are

[copper cliff]

No beige

[plush mason]

thats great. why so they wear parade uniforms into battle tho?

[copper cliff]

Elysians really brought the ODST drip

[earnest snow]

Morbians are Mordians but better

[broken zenith]

excited for Accatran pattern in Darktide

[mossy mortar]

Eldar or Tau are about as closea s it gets

[dusk patrol]

Because it’s part of the discipline

[broken zenith]

morbin time

[dusk patrol]

They come from a lawless world and are rebuilt basically to be disciplined as hell

[copper cliff]

This art is amazing

[copper cliff]

Discipline means NO HELMET

[mossy mortar]

it's space technology

[dusk patrol]

Ok now

[mossy mortar]

they could wear armored hats

Not a fan of the solar auxilia

i think they look a little too retro

[dusk patrol]

Are we really gonna go into irrational design choices for 40k outfits?

[broken zenith]

good ol deep strike guard

[copper cliff]

The tempestus scions I think dress too much like xenos

[dusk patrol]

I didn’t say they’re reasonable

Just that they look baller

[mossy mortar]

the poitn is to look cool

[dusk patrol]

Also it works for some reason

[copper cliff]

Doesn't this look like some Eldar or tau shit?

[broken zenith]

ikr 😍

[dusk patrol]

No you heretic

[fading hemlock]

We all know that commissariat discipline is easier without something in the way

[mossy mortar]

They're going for like a renaissance style breast plates thing

[plush mason]

oh trust me. there are many IG regiments with far worse looks than the iron guard

[broken zenith]

I prefer the good ol pewter mark bedford stormtroopers over 2014 6E-7E tempestus scions honestly

[mossy mortar]

Ooh I know why

Not enough skulls!

[copper cliff]

THIS is what scions should look like

[broken zenith]

mark bedford stormtroopers were tacticool and were more like HECU

[mossy mortar]

Those skulls are way too small

[broken zenith]

tho I like tempestus scion berettes as a callback to 2E jes goodwin stormtroopers

[copper cliff]

This shit kekw

[earnest snow]

The issue is if you break that discipline. For example if their officers were killed >w> the mordians are cool and do well enough but that discipline can be their downfall

[plush mason]

the reason i hate the iron guard is because. they honestly look like DC comics metropolis cops more than actual soldiers

[dusk patrol]

I love this Scion look. Maximum edginess

[plush mason]

yes

[copper cliff]

Tempestus Edgelord

[dusk patrol]

And the best part is, there’s no real reason for it

It’s not like a symbol of anything

They fight Eldar but it’s not like a fear thing

It’s just their look

Psian Jackals

[copper cliff]

Me: Googles new IG models

Google: New IG models..

Me: WAIT NO! STOP!

[broken zenith]

inquisitorial stormtrooper 😌

=][=

[plush mason]

in areas with little light having mostly black armor and cloths can be a boon

[copper cliff]

I really like the new IG models with actual boots and ARMOR SUSPENDERS

I love armor suspenders

[broken zenith]

I love the powerfist xD

[dusk patrol]

Me: googles “Dark Angels subreddit”

Google: you perverted bastard

Me: No wait I meant 40k I mea-!

[copper cliff]

Me when I have to put 40k before my sus google search :(

[broken zenith]

google the fallen

[wise cove]

what do you mean there's no reason? skulls are sacred iconagraphy in the imperium, lol. there is a skull featured as the centerpiece for every division of the adeptus. the symbol of the emperor and the omnissiah are both literally a skull

[plush mason]

is that a vox caster on the right?

[broken zenith]

cadian glory

[wise cove]

it's no more out of place for them than it is for us to wear a crucifix

[mossy mortar]

the skull is essentially the same as the cross is to christianity

[copper cliff]

I like these guys

[wise cove]

like, the crucifix is literally an implement for brutal execution

[dusk patrol]

So technically this isn’t a Kasrkin, it was from an RPG book which just had knockoff Kasrkin

But like

[broken zenith]

venerate the immortal emperor

[dusk patrol]

It’s the same look almost entirely

[mossy mortar]

Pretty much every other western flag is some sort of colored cross

[copper cliff]

Armored man go brr?

[dusk patrol]

Pzzzshoom pzzzhooom

[copper cliff]

The Chem Dogs penal legion also is just absolutely DRIPPED OUT

[dusk patrol]

Or whatever Plasma guns say

Changes every single depiction

[dusk patrol]

They do be

[earnest snow]

I love cadia but gimme another regiment. I like imperial guard for its diversity

[broken zenith]

good ol kasrkin

I love their new updated plastic kit

[earnest snow]

Oh nvm

[broken zenith]

and also demolition charges back

[plush mason]

they say "KABOOM" when you roll a 1

[broken zenith]

ikr

plastic elysians when gw

plastic tallarn

[broken zenith]

rip fw

plastic mukaali kit

[earnest snow]

penal legions should be dripped out because they're gonna die anyways what is their commissar or leader gonna do? Shoot em lawd

[dusk patrol]

[broken zenith]

savlar chem-dogs are my fav penal legion

chem inhaler dope

:3

[copper cliff]

I hope we get some chem dogs drip

My mad max penal legionnaire

[dusk patrol]

Salvar “Fuck me they stole all our ammo supplies again” Chem Dogs

[broken zenith]

chem riders ❤️

[earnest snow]

I gotta get back into imperial guard reading. That's probably gonna be what I'll do after path if the dank elves. I'm bad at setting a schedule for books.

[broken zenith]

all of these regiments stripped down to just cadians in 8E-9E :c

[earnest snow]

Rip

[broken zenith]

rip, especially FW regiments

[mossy mortar]

ogryn custom model lol

[copper cliff]

Cursed ogryn

[broken zenith]

lol

[mossy mortar]

i like this guys' gat

hat

[plush mason]

my man literally has a block head

[broken zenith]

minecraft regiment hailing from the planet minecraft

[copper cliff]

Reminds me old fantasy lore

[copper cliff]

When Warhammer Fantasy was supposedly a single planet that was cutoff from the rest of the universe

[mossy mortar]

don't for get the original ratlings

[broken zenith]

yup, 2E Codex: Chaos - Daemon Worlds army list N'Kari special character fluff hinted at it too

[plush mason]

iirc there was other lore that literally had all of 40k being inside a bottle on a shelf in the altdorf collages of magic lol

[copper cliff]

That too

GW couldn't decide

[plush mason]

ye

[broken zenith]

Andy Chambers' idea was that it was a planet lost in the Eye of Terror

[dusk patrol]

Behold

[copper cliff]

Skwat

[dusk patrol]

A Ratling who is cooler than you’ll ever be

[broken zenith]

Rick Priestley's idea was that they are two different dimensions connected through the Immaterium as per 1988-1990 RT - 3E WFB - 1E WFRP RoC duology

especially RoC: LatD

[dusk patrol]

Got more hair on his feet than your whole body

[broken zenith]

that's why Andy Chambers still hints at the connection between 40k and WFB in 3E Codex: Necrons too

[copper cliff]

you'd be surprised

Im very hairy

[broken zenith]

ratlings whennnn

[dusk patrol]

Once a Ratling got shaved for a special mission, and donated the hair. The planet has had a supply of fresh wigs for centuries and counting.

[broken zenith]

I love the Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress Ratling twins

Rein & Raus

[mossy mortar]

i alwasy liked this bit of art

I hear ratlings got new sculpts

[broken zenith]

yessss

Adrian Smith, absolute legend

3E Lost and the Damned ❤️

[mossy mortar]

him

though my favorite by far is john blanche

the dude basically defined the 40k aesthetic

[broken zenith]

John Blanche is basically mr. Warhammer xD

[copper cliff]

He wields 40,000 warhammers

[broken zenith]

Rick Priestley, Richard Halliwell, Bryan Ansell, John Blanche, Tony Ackland and Jes Goodwin

(and also Perry Twins and Aly Morrison)

[hushed kayak]

i can’t tell if that’s chaos, or Orkz

[plush mason]

yes

[hushed kayak]

well that’s something

[broken zenith]

should be one of the adversaries of Codex: Witch Hunters as the Lost and the Damned

probably a mutant warlord

[copper cliff]

they're dough boys

[broken zenith]

that iconic blanchitsu style omg

[earnest snow]

The dude to the left. Is pettable. That dough head

[broken zenith]

lol

[mossy mortar]

when will they add this haircut

[earnest snow]

When it builds a bridge to connect to two sides

[mossy mortar]

obese jack skellington vibes

[copper cliff]

He looks cute

[earnest snow]

Dude just wants to play fetch

With a human arm

[copper cliff]

got puppy dog eyes

[broken zenith]

absolute legend

[copper cliff]

Anyone else think Leagues of Votann look a little too sleek?

[dusk patrol]

I’m not the biggest fan

[broken zenith]

same

[dusk patrol]

Little generic sci fi for me

[broken zenith]

I like the Cthonian Beserks but that's it

[dusk patrol]

Heh

Little

[broken zenith]

ye

Cthonian Beserks remind me of good ol 2E Cyber Slayers

the main troops on the other hand are too generic sci fi imo I agree

[copper cliff]

I just think they look too pretty in terms of machinery shape and such. When 40k is pretty famous for how crude and angular shit is. Even Tau have a kind of dirty aesthetic.

[earnest snow]

I haven't looked at the votann yet. Just know they're dawi and that's it

[broken zenith]

GW gotta bring back the space dawi zharr

plastic chaos squats plz GW

[earnest snow]

Make em proper dawi

[wise cove]

they're called squats

[open marsh]

Will be there be uniforms for Arkan Confederates? I wanna go full Olde Southern a "Put the fear of the Emperor in the souls of these poor heretics. God-Emperor Bless their Hearts."

[mossy mortar]

The FFG setting also had Squats, called "Lathemasters"

[atomic pelican]

I thought you were texan

Not southern

[dusk patrol]

They’re a pretty obscure regiment

So, I doubt it or they’re low on the list

[open marsh]

Darn. Would be fun running around swinging a saber while looking like General Lee

[broken zenith]

just imagine catachans

glorious

[dusk patrol]

Catachans are a very likely option at some point

I’d put them above Krieg in terms of lore relevance but you know

Internet and it’s shittaste in regiments

[open marsh]

I hope we don't get Krieg-like outfits

Please no

[dusk patrol]

We’re 100% going to

[open marsh]

We have shovels as melee. So you know exactly what's going to happen

[dusk patrol]

They’d be fools not to

Yes

And it’s gonna be cringe

[open marsh]

It's going to be something beyond cringe that we have yet to discover

[plucky moth]

It’d be moronic to not milk that market tho

Like it’s pretty much free money

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[open marsh]

I hate Krieg shovel memes so so so much

[dusk patrol]

It’s already in the files I believe

[copper cliff]

Kringe Korps noo

[dusk patrol]

Or the leaks

[broken zenith]

attilan frag lance when

[dusk patrol]

There’s a “trench armor” cosmetic thing

Which is probably one thing

[plucky moth]

Gimme Tallarn pls

[copper cliff]

I saw steel legion style masks in the leaks

[dusk patrol]

Tallarn, steel legion, Mordians, Elysians

[copper cliff]

So it could be steel legion cosmetics

[plucky moth]

Maccabians

[dusk patrol]

Catachan

Salvar Chem Dogs

[copper cliff]

Even GW did a Krieg bait with Kill Team lol

[dusk patrol]

So many

[broken zenith]

savlar nitro chem-inhaler, just saying :3

mmhm, dope 👌

[open marsh]

Aw yiss. WWII Wehrmacht.....IN SPEAS

[dusk patrol]

[copper cliff]

[open marsh]

?

[dusk patrol]

[broken zenith]

armageddon ork hunters

[open marsh]

It's what the Steel Legion are

[copper cliff]

[broken zenith]

pyran dragoons

[earnest snow]

Just gimme Howling Banshee so I can space elf my way through hordes of heretics.

[storm jungle]

Steel Legion were de-germanized like a decade ago

[storm jungle]

Also dont mention eldar, the rockbrains are gonna wake up

[atomic pelican]

Dorfs

[storm jungle]

no brain

[broken zenith]

I need cyber mastiff

[storm jungle]

best we can give you is Necromunda Hired Gun

enjoy the JANK

[atomic pelican]

Love when he jumps 15 floors to maul someone

[broken zenith]

I need hive spyrer hunting rig

[cerulean wagon]

please no

[storm jungle]

Oh wait i think V6 has me blocked

even tho they joined 3 days ago and we havent interacted once

rip

[copper cliff]

I have you blocked too

[atomic pelican]

Youngbloods, m

[storm jungle]

[earnest snow]

I. LOVE. ELDAR. let them come

[copper cliff]

I can't see that thanos snap meme cause you're blocked sorry

[storm jungle]

[open marsh]

Yeah me too

[storm jungle]

wait let me test

[cerulean wagon]

[storm jungle]

Yeah he does

guess we'll tell Hedge

[earnest snow]

Someone blocked someone? The plot thickens?

[copper cliff]

What if we blocked each other under the dead shovel meme 👉 👈

[storm jungle]

Medic is a chud from a year ago

basically does nothing but complain about lore against people

he ragequit after 6 people argued with him about some necromunda stuff

[atomic pelican]

On god bro blood ravens are infact dark angels

[storm jungle]

THIS.

then gets mad when people tell him its stupid

[copper cliff]

tbh I thought we did know each other because your out of server profile pic looks similar to someone else I used to know

[storm jungle]

ah yeah its a sylvanas

[copper cliff]

But nope, empty DMs, guess it was Tzeentch messing with the timeline

[storm jungle]

i dont even play WoW so 😔

[copper cliff]

I know but I mean the art

[storm jungle]

ah

[copper cliff]

They did for sure

The art makes me feel funny cause women who look at me with disgust 😍

[storm jungle]

mood tbh

[copper cliff]

When you make them smile you know you've earned it 👍

[obtuse vault]

Cooming

[abstract zealot]

is force crossbow a thing?

[dusk patrol]

Not that I’ve ever seen

[abstract zealot]

I regret that I never mastered crossbows

[earnest snow]

Forbidden in Craftworlds. We shall not fall to temptation again >:O

[copper cliff]

Vermintide 2 crossbow on bounty hunter makes you miss it when swapping off

One shotting chaos warriors is nirvana

[dusk patrol]

I love using the stupid repeater for it’s one use with the BH

Terrible gun, but fun for the one build

[copper cliff]

I was sad pistols don't have chaos warrior armor pen

[broken zenith]

condemnor boltgun when

[copper cliff]

I kinda wish BH got Kruber's rifle or repeater rifle

repeater pistol is so clunky

[earnest snow]

Nova Cannon dlc when

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s only useful for the no ammo usage crit build

Other than that it’s subpar compared to everything else

And even then it’s “useful”

[obtuse vault]

Not on my craftworld bruh 🥴🥴😈

[earnest snow]

B...but the path o_o'

[cerulean wagon]

its actually not

they still have kids n shit

[earnest snow]

They do, but it's not in the same way as before the Fall of the Eldar Empire. They aren't hedonistic is what I'm saying

[obtuse vault]

Bruh u ruined my RP wtf man

[abstract zealot]

I'm guessing the Eldar home world was consumed by a warp storm when Slaanesh was born?

[atomic pelican]

Yea

[cerulean wagon]

skill issue

smh

[obtuse vault]

The eldar ruled most every planet in the universe... Technically their "home worlds", maiden planets, still remain. Some of them!

Others became crone worlds

cringe worlds

[earnest snow]

The crone worlds are in the eye of terror. Basically worlds that were immediately yoinked when slaanesh decided it was a good idea to exist.

[broken zenith]

crone worlder > craftworlder

look at the shriekers from fabius bile novel, they are awesome

[earnest snow]

Commoragh > Nose picker society

[abstract zealot]

So could it be before Slaanesh there were very many more habitable worlds and the Imperium really only has the scraps left over?

[dusk patrol]

The Eye of Terror is where the Eldar empire was located, or the heart of it was mostly

[broken zenith]

yup, that's why the eldar still try to recover their artifacts from the crone worlds

especially the spirit stones

[earnest snow]

In the eyes of the Eldar yeah. Though these planets are still in good shape in comparison to what could have happened.

[broken zenith]

eldar rangers risking their lives in both material world and beyond

[earnest snow]

To the Eldar the Imperium is just another empire that will fall because theirs fell. And they have a huge superiority complex even among each other sometimes despite The Path trying to fix that.

[broken zenith]

outcast eldar best eldar

corsairs ❤️

[earnest snow]

Aradryan o3o

[broken zenith]

void dreamers 😌

[copper cliff]

Imagine feeling superior in how wrecked your civilization was

You see, Imperium, when we got absolutely ass blasted by chaos, we created an INESCAPABLE HELL DIMENSION

[atomic pelican]

CWE in life rafts still have a better civilization 😂

[copper cliff]

What did you do?

[broken zenith]

Iyanden has always been my fav Craftworld to be fair
Iyanna Arienal best

and also the Ghost Warriors 😌

[atomic pelican]

Banana

[broken zenith]

6E Iyanden supplement formations were really good, 8E-9E specialist detachment not so much

[cerulean wagon]

I do have a soft spot for Iyanden, mostly cause i love wraith constructs

[atomic pelican]

I like Iyanden but their color scheme has always been a bit too mustardy to me

Fluffwise they bang

[broken zenith]

yellow best

[cerulean wagon]

Wraiths being just space necromancy is the coolest fucking shit, its so unique

[earnest snow]

The Imperium typically have worse tech. And their ideologies block progress. Look from the Eldar perspective: these literal baboons come from some planet and claim right to a galaxy that was already claimed many times before. Honestly, if there is one thing the Eldar and necrons can agree upon is the internal agony they feel looking at humans.

Bananas are cool

[broken zenith]

ikr me2

[copper cliff]

You don't even get it mon'keigh! WE HAD SEX SO HARD! ;-; WE LITERALLY MADE A GOD! Why are you bullying us?! We're so much cooler. 😭

[cerulean wagon]

ace calm your shit honestly

[earnest snow]

Damn right we created slaanesh.

[cerulean wagon]

just being disruptive

[atomic pelican]

Im going to reveal something mystical to you:

The Asuryani had nothing to do with the fall other than being the same species

[abstract zealot]

Eldar look like human mutants that have adapted to low gravity.

[copper cliff]

Sends 1 message

"You're being disruptive"

[cerulean wagon]

im sorry all of the other messages from your account must have been from your twin

[atomic pelican]

LMAO

Little brother on my discord

[earnest snow]

Exodite eldar pog. Return to Dino

[broken zenith]

yessss

Dragon Knights

I'd love to see the Exodites return in 10E

imagine plastic Dragon Knights kit

[atomic pelican]

Hang on lemme get the guide

[broken zenith]

Ynnari best death cult

[atomic pelican]

I made this like a year ago after getting tired of explaining

I rlly like the Ynnari now but I wish gav wasnt writing them

Also I wish you could still run the Yncarne and such in non-ynnari armies

[cerulean wagon]

they are a cool concept that poorly handled

[atomic pelican]

Yeeep

[broken zenith]

ikr

pretty much

[atomic pelican]

Their rules are also the most anti-fun antisoup possible

[earnest snow]

Saving this. This is beautiful

[broken zenith]

ye, 9E rules made them basically a craftworld

[atomic pelican]

Shouldve just waited and made them a supplement

Basically just a craftworld that can take gimped drukhari units 😂

[broken zenith]

yeee

[obtuse vault]

Hey you copied my name

🤬🤬🤬

[broken zenith]

Ynnari and FSE deserve their own supplements

[atomic pelican]

U dont own the #1 fan format grr

FSE I think are fine, Ynnari are just so wildly different fluffwise that its weird theyre just a CW

[earnest snow]

I haven't read anything ynnari. Kinda hoping it would be a turning point in eldar lore. I'm fine with rhana dandra but I would like something other than "this is our fate. We are dying. Lemme have some oxygen."

[broken zenith]

the rumour has it that the new 9.5E SM dex will be accompanied by 8E style codex compliant chapter supplements as mini dexes

wish GW would show the same treatment for the Xenos armies :c

[atomic pelican]

Thats kind of the gist for Ynnari. They+ Eldrad hope to avert the Rhana Dandra via awakening Ynnead to kill slaanesh

[broken zenith]

(but then again Officio Assassinorum didn't even get their 9E update, still stuck with their 8E PA rules which is out of print)

[atomic pelican]

The Ynnari got curbed when the 'end times' of 40k was dulled as a whole

So they wrote them into a wall

[broken zenith]

Yup, then the Death Masque went wrong because of the Deathwatch

Captain Artemis be like

[earnest snow]

Which is why I got into eldar books! I wanted to understand them before getting into the ynnari novels because im a big fan of defying fate and making your own destiny.

[atomic pelican]

Lol deathwatch killing eldrad somehow

Fucking marines

Atleast hes back

Cant keep grandpa down

[earnest snow]

If Eldrad ever dies I swear. Ima scream and bust my windows

[atomic pelican]

He has died like 3 times but keeps coming back

[cerulean wagon]

eldrad has died like

4 times now

[atomic pelican]

Boons of having Ynnari friends

LMAO

[cerulean wagon]

[earnest snow]

Here goes 4 of my windows brb

[broken zenith]

Ulthwe and their shenanigans

just as planned

[earnest snow]

My neighbors told me to shut up

[atomic pelican]

Eldrad isnt even with Ulthwe anymore. They exiled his ass LMAO

For trolling

[earnest snow]

Really? Rip Eldrad

[atomic pelican]

He stole a bunch of soulstones for the Ynnari

From Ulthwe+othwr CWs

[earnest snow]

Good god bruh

[broken zenith]

ye, 7E Death Masque was interesting

[earnest snow]

Just go to a crone world ez

[broken zenith]

I remember getting hyped for the updated plastic harlie kits and their triumphant return as an army

[atomic pelican]

Im just glad Biel Tan is being rebuilt. The true chads of the aeldari 😎

[earnest snow]

One day I'll get to Biel Tan in terms of novels.

dark eldar got me hooked so yeet

[broken zenith]

despite all the hate 7E got, there were cool things too such as DW finally becoming army after the cancelled Codex: Alien Hunters of old, GSC and Harlies returning

[atomic pelican]

There rlly isnt any other than like codex info and such

I dont think BTan have a book

They are in DoW(cant remember which)

[earnest snow]

Rip im bad at codex knowledge

[dusk patrol]

Biel Tan probably won’t get a book anytime soon also. On account of being split in half.

[atomic pelican]

Honestly thatd bang

[broken zenith]

Court of the Young King ❤️

[atomic pelican]

I just love the aspect side + the Swordwind so obvs Btan is my fave

[broken zenith]

yeeee

Biel-Tan's cool

[earnest snow]

Literally I just read novels, watch YouTube, and talk about 40k. It how I learn

[atomic pelican]

Need a wraithknight book based on Biel-Tan's table of 13

Er, 26(?)

Lmao

[broken zenith]

I like all of the Craftworlds overall, but Iyanden is my fav of course

[abstract zealot]

here is a thought, could a primitive civilization potentially walk through the warp to other habitable worlds? This way there could be a multiplanetary empire without the capacity for space travel

[atomic pelican]

Probably

[broken zenith]

Saim-Hann Wild Host, Alaitoc Ranger Force

good ol IA11 Mymeara of Talima Fox & Alan Bligh

Shadow Spectres ❤️

[atomic pelican]

Spectres bang

[earnest snow]

I only know of alaitoc in specific. They're too strict on the path for me so eh. I like seers and aspect warriors though o3o

[broken zenith]

ikr 😍

[atomic pelican]

I will say I rlly love how CWE have remained simple to their subfactions. P much all of them represent some base gameplay style that makes them super identifiable

Ala Biel Tan aspect hosts, Iyanden ghost warriors etc

Saim Hann fast attack/Ulthwe psykers

And uh, Althansar dark reapers LMAO

[broken zenith]

Farseer Bel-Annath of Mymeara 😌

The Sundered Spear

[abstract zealot]

I'm imagining space scaven appearing anywhere and everywhere to scavenge and steal things, and sometimes trying to sell their junk to aliens for space crack/warp stone

[broken zenith]

yessss

[atomic pelican]

Maugan Ra single handedly towing Althansar out of the Eye is still my fave lore chunk

DOOM guy moment

[broken zenith]

Iybraesil as Banshee Craftworld

[broken zenith]

Maugan Ra coming to the aid of Ulthwe during the 13th Black Crusade global campaign of old was my fav moment, wish it was still part of the fluff in TGS

[atomic pelican]

LETS GOOO

Every time mass phoenix lords show up is both fucking cool and also scary since Rhana Dandra

[broken zenith]

yup

[atomic pelican]

I love uh, I think it was Biel Tan and Iyanden? Had some conflict and each had phoenix lords on their sides

[broken zenith]

poor Iyanden 😔

[atomic pelican]

Its okay, Iyanden and Biel Tan have been jobbed for the plot. Now they may rest and rebuild

[earnest snow]

Three Phoenix lords coming to the aid of Alaitoc in Path of the Eldar def gave me chills. Certified eldar moment

[atomic pelican]

Yeeeeep

Oh god the Karandras scenes in that are so cool

I rlly want to see a Arha book that leads into Drazhar

[earnest snow]

Karandras is a bro. And yesss the fallen Phoenix novel would be a banger

[broken zenith]

Incubi 😌

[earnest snow]

totally wasn't reading up on craftworlds

I like the warrior path a lot with the seer in a close second. So Biel-Tan is my beloved. Also they're close allies to Iyanden and that is some bonus points

[earnest snow]

As I go along the path of the dark eldar I'll learn about Incubi more. only relevant one I know is the one Kenainath gave a second chance to. Which is...I'm not gonna cry maan

[broken zenith]

ikr

[short thicket]

Pog the guard got a new tank

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tUcC7OPfhYaYYVlR.jpg

[odd tulip]

Ok the Dorn is vastly improved (visually) by having the single turret instead of the double

far more aesthetic

[copper cliff]

Agreed, the double turret makes it look like a lighter tank tbh

[rotund quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer40k-vraks-siege-of-vraks-death-korps-gif-20931228

YO

[prime tapir]

The rogal dorn tank turret looks too modernesque

Otherwise I’m quite impressed with it

[copper cliff]

That's funny cause Im pretty sure its based off a world war 2 tank iirc 🤔

[crisp heath]

That looks like my cultural dance

[shadow plover]

it looks a lot like a thicker Pershing

[plush mason]

yeah the turret clear used the Pershing as its main inspiration

ofc GW did the same with the russ's turret

i think the russ turret is kinda based on the panzer 3

[shadow plover]

a bit yeah, being all angular

[plush mason]

yeah

[grizzled gorge]

in the ogryn spotlight, he mentions komlar, and I'm wondering if it's an old place or if it was made specifically for darktide because it seems like there isn't much info on it

[fierce pendant]

It's possible, I mean besides Cadia the planets you could pick for your character's backstory/place of birth were all in Atoma Prime, all made just for DT so Komlar could be related to the fringe wars happening in that sector.

[hot kelp]

Not gonna lie.. it looks bad

[shadow plover]

well you just lied

smh

[plush mason]

i think ether the professional or the loose cannon vet voice also mention komlar

[celest dome]

Isn't that tied to the planet you chose ?

Like in the VA presentation one of the personality is supposed to be Cadian. But it ended up being tied to the fact you chose Cadia or not

[frank holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbNI35Oujf8

[storm jungle]

Little Dark Age 40k video no.2914

[earnest snow]

Little dank age

[mossy mortar]

it's evergree

n

[turbid patrol]

hello there fellow 40k fans i have a question about Commissar Yarrick

is that true that he got his mechanical arm from a ork ?

and is that true that orc tech is useless if some one else tries to use it ?

so how come it worked on Commissar Yarrick ?

[mossy mortar]

You're asking too many questions... questions lead to heresy

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

The arm more or so still has mechanical stuff in it and is basically a bionic attachment at the end of the day

so its not exactly a regular ork junk weapon

his animated short also shows techpriests helping him put it on first the first itme

[earnest snow]

I believe yarrick has a red eye that...may shoot lasers. The last part maybe just an ork myth because they revere and are spooked by the guy

[celest dome]

He had one installed afterward

[storm jungle]

^

[plush mason]

nah its real because he heard of that myth and had a digital weapon installed in his bionic eye

[earnest snow]

So he does have a red eye that can shoot lasers? Good lad. Make them orks believe he is the second coming of big E next. Then come the waagh and Yarrick is op

[plush mason]

lol

nah that wont work. the orks already know of the emperor and see him as a weak useless god already

at least afaik

[mossy mortar]

no it actually shoots lasers

[grizzled grove]

Hmm, does The Thumper weapon have any basis in canon? I mean, I don't mind if it doesn't, I'm just wondering if it was just purely created for Darktide

[mossy mortar]

Not that I know of

[hushed cosmos]

Ah, you all seem much more reasonable in this chat. The others are overwhelmed with chaos.

[broken zenith]

Yarrick is so badass that he gets to ride a custom Baneblade, the Fortress of Arrogance 😌

[mossy mortar]

it's such a good name lol

[broken zenith]

ikr lol

[earnest snow]

Man is ready

[earnest snow]

Orks are a weird mix. Some see him as a proper git stompin' everything in his path. Some don't care and just wanna Krump.

One day the emperor will get off his throne and give the Orks what they want: the 10 thousand year rematch in the making! Ullanor electric boogaloo

[broken zenith]

good ol RT

[earnest snow]

Sorry was caught up reading a reddit thread on the beast arises series. Totally wasn't entertained by the comments.

Thanks for the reference! @broken zenith I hope this isn't imperial propaganda >w>

[somber citrus]

war of the beast was weird

[broken zenith]

VULKAN LIVES
stomp stomp

[earnest snow]

From what I've learned without reading it...yes. on one hand we see what the Ork could be in current day 40k. Return to being like the Krorks. On the other hand you get wild stuff. Like teleporting Ullanor just to have it be Armageddon...??? O.o?

[copper cliff]

Orks becoming Krorks is some 40k end times shit I can feel it

Or at least Ghazgkull becoming a krork

[earnest snow]

Harlequins slaying custodes like it's nothing despite the sisters of silence would have been a bane to them. Harlequins are great, so one or two custodes, sure. But not...left and right lmao

And yes the last thing anyone needs is a single Krork

Lmao

[copper cliff]

And then Ghazgkull became a krork and said "its krorkin time" and totally krorked all over chaos.

[earnest snow]

The last hope would be the necrons or tyranids to stop Krorkbius

[supple flint]

Let’s just bring archaon to 40k

[copper cliff]

Krorchaon

[broken zenith]

its morbin time

[copper cliff]

I wouldn't mind if orks won end times, they deserve it after Grimgor got cucked in Warhammer fantasy :(

[broken zenith]

ikr

[copper cliff]

Ghazgkull krumps the big bad, and then leaves, refuses to explain himself, but everyone already knows. If the universe ends, there's no more gits to krump.

[earnest snow]

I will never get over the end times

Trusting mannfred.

I cant

Even

I actually raged at that

[copper cliff]

He had a very respectable face

[supple flint]

I liked it when everything blew up

[earnest snow]

There is so kuch stuff prior to show you to not trust that vampire. And they do. I. Can't.

That face is...cries

[worn cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/steamed-hams-aurora-borealis-what-is-happening-fagetti-wtf-gif-16514726

[copper cliff]

Does that face not scream trustworthy? 🤔

[supple flint]

Better than skaven

[copper cliff]

Skaven going apeshit is the best part

[broken zenith]

Aurora Borealis?

[copper cliff]

https://tenor.com/beudL.gif

[broken zenith]

may I see it?

[worn cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/chalmers-simpsons-may-i-see-it-talking-gif-11870196

[copper cliff]

https://tenor.com/bhhbU.gif

[broken zenith]

charismatic

[broken zenith]

:c

Seymour, the house is on fire

helpppp

[copper cliff]

lmao

anyway back to lore

Skaven should be in every property ever

[broken zenith]

yes yes

especially thanquol :3

[supple flint]

Is the horned rat a lesser chaos god or a demon prince?

[copper cliff]

I think they're a lesser chaos god iirc

[celest dome]

Great Horned Rat=Chaos God (Minor)
Verminlord=Greater Daemon/Daemon Princes

And while he doesn't have Daemon, he has all the skaven

[copper cliff]

I'd take a ratling gun over some stinky cyclops

[celest dome]

As enemy ?

[copper cliff]

As a minion

[night sorrel]

What is bigger, nurgling or pink/blue horros of tzeentch

[copper cliff]

pink/blue horrors

Nurglings are very smol

[celest dome]

Horror

[dusk patrol]

He’s one of the main ones in Age of Sigmar, but in Vermintide he’s a minor one.

[celest dome]

Same ish base size

[dusk patrol]

He ascended in AoS because the Skaven came out super duper on top after the End Times

Helped that Slaneesh got dumpstered too

[celest dome]

I wonder why

The ET was basically Skaven Mary Sue

[dusk patrol]

But don’t worry she/he/it got better

[celest dome]

Gary Sue ?

Many Sue

[dusk patrol]

Gary Stu-Sue yes yes

[nocturne jetty]

Nurglings will come in Vermintide 2 (hopefully)

Still needs more Enemies inside CW

[celest dome]

Yes, but they might be tied to the event and nothing else, though they could be modified to become real units

[final spruce]

New update put them in

[celest dome]

Are they already out ?I though it was tomorrow ?

[final spruce]

Yeah that one

[dusk patrol]

Wait what?

Are we goofing here?

[fierce pendant]

No

Halloween update for VT2 will include nurglings

It starts tomorrow

[dusk patrol]

Damn

[celest dome]

Gotta dust of the old hammer, gotta sqash those little gremlins

[wraith socket]

Mh, sounds like a good time! Just keep your noses pinched

[mossy mortar]

We really need a stomp attacj

Where do i put in the request so fatshark cna read it

We need stomps and kicks and maybe some spear hand shit too

[dusk patrol]

We have one

Press space bar as Ogryn

[broken zenith]

@opaque vessel

I love the Death Cult Assassins xD

[celest dome]

Really ?

[opaque vessel]

yo what the dogs doin

though yea they sound awesome
heresy and xenos research here befitting of my name xp

[unique berry]

Cute doggo

[broken zenith]

just imagine death cult assassin in darktide so that I can roleplay severina & sevora

[broken zenith]

yesssss

[dusk patrol]

cause he jumps, getit?

[earnest snow]

So I've learned from someone a bit more knowledgeable in stuff centered around the beginning of the 40k timeline. It's in relation to something in 5e and the Wild Rider's novel. Basically: Chaos has always been a thing. There was an alliance with the necrontyr and eldar to seal away Chaos.

I don't have issue with the last part because that happens all the time, but apparently at some point before the war in heaven, chaos was sealed away. Then everything happened as normal then the Fall of the Eldar empire exploded the seals with Slaanesh finally becoming a chaos God. (Apparently slaanssh was a thing before this because warp time fuckery that I honestly find a headache).

Anyways, I'm wondering just how badly incompetent and far gone the Eldar were as they were nearing the Fall since they knew of Chaos and what not for eons.yes ik craftworld and exodite aren't responsible for the fall idk why but this piece of lore has been stuck with me all day lmao

[dusk patrol]

There were Slaneesh daemons that the Necrons and pre-fall Eldar fought too, time is optional in the warp.

As for how the fall led up, a lot of Eldar saw it coming.

Its why Craft Worlds exist.

There were lots of crazy preacher eldar in the streets sacrificing people and proclaiming the coming of Slaneesh.

The Eldar Empire is not represented by the Craftworlds

Its represented more closely by the Drukhari.

[broken zenith]

Yup, Commorragh was one of the biggest port cities of the Eldar Empire too

[earnest snow]

This is true. I haven't gotten to the Ynnari novels so I didn't know about this. It's definitely different than what is typically told with the war in heaven sparking chaos into being. At least from stuff I've watched and read.

[dusk patrol]

The craftworlds were the puritan hippies who saw what was coming and prepared, and tried to change their ways to some extent.

[dusk patrol]

It arguably did, but the thing is the warp is a weird place.

So because Slaneesh was born once, she was always around.

[plush mason]

iirc the Drukhari where the worst of the worst during the empire days. and thus they spent 100% of the time in the webway

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically this

[earnest snow]

I know the warp isn't fully chaos. So maybe it was just small at the time instead of what we know as it is now.

[storm jungle]

when the Eye of Terror opened it was at the center of their Empire

also Wild Rider's retcon is like

super dumb

[dusk patrol]

When "Chaos" properly appeared we don't know

[storm jungle]

a lot of fans ignore it since it makes no sense

Eldar and Orks were made to fight the necrons first and foremost

not chaos, at all

[earnest snow]

I'm trying to wrap my head around it ;-; like....hnnng

[dusk patrol]

Wild Rider takes place during the downturn of the War in Heaven. Which wasn't really even one war, it took place over a long period of time.

[storm jungle]

Pro tip: Don't.

its literally just mentioned there and nowhere else

[plush mason]

hell wasnt the realm of souls now called the warp a big source of power for the old ones?

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was

[earnest snow]

According to wild riders it would be when the seals were destroyed. So around the Fall most likely

[earnest snow]

I just wanna read about space elves man why Gav gotta do this Dx

[dusk patrol]

That's what you get for wanting to read about Eldar

[plush mason]

lol

[storm jungle]

Lmao this

Gav knows jack shit

even tho hes the only one that writes for eldar mainly

💀

[earnest snow]

I'm just gonna stick with chaos was always a thing, and ignore all of that...wild rider shit. Then continue on as normal.

Like sure it could have been a small influence whatever it's the warp

[dusk patrol]

I mean Wild rider doesn't contradict that.

[plush mason]

eldar lore is just black library's red headed step child it seems like

[dusk patrol]

Wild Rider is just them meeting chaos properly for the first time and the mindfuck of Slaneesh already existing before she's born.

Its just a theory that the WiH caused Chaos to form anyways, we don't really know.

[plush mason]

ngl the warp has enough time fuckery going on to drive doctor who mad

[dusk patrol]

Basically.

Time is optional in the warp.

So its all a moot point.

[plush mason]

ye

[dusk patrol]

Maybe Chaos hid from the Old Ones, maybe they didn't see it, maybe it came into being because the War in Heaven.

[earnest snow]

They can take the time to not make my brain die

[plush mason]

no

[dusk patrol]

No

[earnest snow]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/saltzpyre-no-warrior-priest-warpriest-saltz-gif-25312568

[plush mason]

sorry. fucking with people's brains is one of chaos' favorite pass times

[dusk patrol]

But tbh, the point of the War in Heaven is to stay mostly mysterious with only a few details given.

hopefully forever

Only the Silent King knows what went down fully.

[plush mason]

it literally happened before humans even existed at all

[dusk patrol]

Every other Necron's memories have been tampered with in lots of ways.

[earnest snow]

I'm going back to the safety of the dark eldar novels

[storm jungle]

We enjoy gigachad slavers that hate everyone

even themselves

[earnest snow]

Yessss the dank elves have a perfect city to go vacation to. Trust me. It rocks

I'll probably stop with Asurman and Jain Zar on Eldar novels. man they did the Eldar dirty

[alpine ingot]

Gav: the man that can retcon and re-retcon his on cannon.

[hazy galleon]

btw, maybe random - anyone have a list of the beta planets that was avalible as origin? - and also possibly a short explenation of them if anyone would bother write? (know frankly embarisingly little about anything but cadia)

[plush mason]

tbh we all do. all the other worlds in the beta where completely new and made just for darktide

[hazy galleon]

oh, they were? couldent tell honestly lol

[plush mason]

cadia was the only "big name" world in the list

[earnest snow]

I didn't choose Cadia. Agri world gang gang

[hazy galleon]

only did cadia for Psyker, wanted the violet eyes on her xD

[earnest snow]

From farmer to purger of filth

[broken zenith]

y'all need oliensis

[earnest snow]

The eyes are cool. But farmer purges the best of weeds

[hazy galleon]

farmer? purger? either way you're shoveling s**t 😂

[earnest snow]

Farm gang

[hazy galleon]

ok, so all this are just unknowns then i guess? @plush mason

[plush mason]

yes all written just for the game

[earnest snow]

Cadia more like Tanith sniff

[plush mason]

by the legend himself Dan Abnett himself in fact

[hazy galleon]

feels like we could need a full on big anthology book on darktide tbh.

do you know of the star wars "from a certain point of view"? @plush mason

[mossy mortar]

algae farmer gang yeee

[earnest snow]

Farming makes you strong. So be farmer then hit harder ez

[plush mason]

the only thing i can remember off the top of my head is that Crucis and Messelina Gloriana are 2 shrine worlds dedicated to a saint from the Moebian sector

and that i learned just from playing the beta

[plush mason]

no but my star wars lore is limited

[hazy galleon]

basicly, a bunch of small..novels i guess, in a single book

several stories from, well - another point of view

like the day of the Wampa on hoth,
also the family life of the taun-taun Han rode out on.
the Ugnaught that found the lightsaber hilt on cloud city

etc etc - kinda awsome way of telling cannon stories tbh

[plush mason]

sounds neet

[hazy galleon]

there is also a very sweet Aliens one, with one part being the creatíon of the pulse rifle and basicly the military trials for it...think it was called Aliens Bughunt...but not certain @plush mason

[plush mason]

and yeah i would love for something like that to be made for darktide. the setting is ripe for all kinds of little stories like that

[hazy galleon]

https://www.audible.com/pd/From-a-Certain-Point-of-View-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-Star-Wars-Audiobook/0593215419 @plush mason

Austin Walker explores the unlikely partnership of bounty hunters Dengar and IG-88 as they pursue Han Solo.
Hank Green chronicles the life of a naturalist caring for tauntauns on the frozen world of Hoth.
Tracy Deonn delves into the dark heart of the Dagobah cave where Luke confronts a terrifying vision.
Martha Wells reveals the world of the Ugnaught clans who dwell in the depths of Cloud City. 
Mark Oshiro recounts the wampa’s tragic tale of loss and survival.
Seth Dickinson interrogates the cost of serving a ruthless empire aboard the bridge of a doomed Imperial starship.

also, reminds me alot of the necronomicon book with like...i think it's 30 something of lovecrafts works? 🤔

[plush mason]

atoma prime is a massive hive city home to 90 billion people. the stories that can be built for just the hive alone are numberless

[hazy galleon]

i mean, could deffo do stories from each of the personalities or similar, and give them a certain premade background that gets explored @plush mason

[copper cliff]

That time Mrs Jenkins needed to go shopping and got ambushed by underhive gangsters

[hazy galleon]

like, idk -
Carl the imperial guard veteran from the aquatic world, how he was saved by his sergant and later got sent to the inqusition for sediton ya-di-ya. xD

(dont remember that much from character creation lol)

[plush mason]

the personalities already kind of do but as far as back story we the player make that with our choices in character creation

[hazy galleon]

alot of banter yeah, but you can do a more "memorial" style i guess?

or "how i ended up here" kinda deal maybe

[plush mason]

yeah but that would be very hard due to all the different players and what not

[hazy galleon]

think that's why basicly a certain mix might work though tbh

[plush mason]

i think from a narrative POV it would be better to focus on the NPCs for such stories

[hazy galleon]

as it's not the story of kruber or kerrilian, just how X from Y ended up with Z and then tertium xD

truuue

...full on Hadron book, gimmie. xD

also, yeah - quite sure it's this one.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Aliens-Bug-Hunt-Audiobook/B07D2H7BN2?qid=1666746492&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=83218cca-c308-412f-bfcf-90198b687a2f&pf_rd_r=W9SN1AJ24M6GJ2YVTQ5G

loved the one that was told from the perspective of a hive-drone

[plush mason]

yeah i feel that in games with full character customization its very important for the players to have as much narrative freedom as can be given to them for their characters in regards to back story for them

[hazy galleon]

would be nice to get backstory on Marrow aswell, idk - he felt very symphatetic to our plight i think?? 🤔

[mossy mortar]

If youre from a farming world then I think that's what triggers the voice lines that go "I could never live in a hive like this"

I assume

There must be alternative voice lines like "this sewer reminds me of home" for people from a hive I guess?

[hazy galleon]

i'd love to see / know all kinds of diffrences the origin makes tbh

[earnest snow]

It might. Or an ocean world could do that though they have hives still i believe in the one in DT

[hazy galleon]

what voicelines come from what etc

[mossy mortar]

There's definitely a set of Cadia voicelines for the soldier characers

[copper cliff]

I worry the differences made create sort of dead zones in the code.

[plush mason]

the cut throat

[mossy mortar]

I think maybe the professional too?

I might e getting them confused

I know the cutthroat has a whole speech

[plush mason]

nah the cut throat is the cadia

[mossy mortar]

I think a lot ofthe characters have cadia specific lines

[plush mason]

afaik all the other voice options are from Moebian

[plush mason]

i only ever heard those from the cutthroat

but then i only picked cadia as the cutthroat vet so maybe your home world does effect the voicelines

[mossy mortar]

im pretty sure it does

[short thicket]

Speaking of voice lines

The psyker can have an aurgement about the sub titles

[mossy mortar]

Yeah i heard one of those

It was pretty great

[tawdry walrus]

ok buddy but do or don´t lasguns have recoil tho?!?!!

[earnest snow]

Gonna recoil when I make it gas powered

[dry epoch]

I mean, I did both of those things at the same time.

[earnest snow]

Oh damn. You're saying you're a mother? Grats :D!

Though what part of 40k lore you discuss?

[dry epoch]

Whatever came up at the time. We are nerd family goals. All three of us have half built armies all over the place.

[earnest snow]

Goals to strive for

[rapid bronze]

Unfortunately not the case; my char was a Professional from Cadia and a Cut-throat said to me 'You wouldn't have lasted a day on Cadia'

My character responded 'yeah? And where is Cadia now?', and after some back and forth my character said 'You'll come apart at the last second, just like Cadia.'

Definitely not how a Cadian would refer to his own homeworld to another...

[hot kelp]

@rapid bronze are you Russian?

[rapid bronze]

No, but why does it matter

Do you ping everyone to ask?

[hot kelp]

Yes@rapid bronze

[rapid bronze]

[hot kelp]

I'm sorry

Your name is Russian

[rapid bronze]

What if I told you that kazaks, uzbeks, Ukrainians, and many Slavic countries that aren't Russian have names like that

But no, I picked it because it sounded cool when I was 12

[hot kelp]

K in the name means khorne..

A @rapid bronze heretic

[frank holly]

Did you guys was able to locate Atoma Prime, the Moebian Domain and the Margrave sub-sector on the Imperium stellar map?

[rose thorn]

I don’t know much about physics, but maybe they convert heat energy into mechanical or even gravitational energy to prevent over heating? Creating recoil?

Or the heat vents release so much it causes recoil?

[celest dome]

Possibly, there are more reasons to believe that it would have recoil than not

[rose thorn]

Yeah I would feel weird if it doesn’t have recoil,

Now the real question is

Do grav guns have recoil?

[celest dome]

It wouldn't have recoil in the regular sense. But it could have a certain pull, where shooting would tend to jerk the gun forward

[rose thorn]

Makes sense

[mossy mortar]

They put a piston in to generate recoil

Otherwise the troops waste ammo

[unborn gust]

Everything that shoots has recoil in some form

“Every action has an equal and opposite reaction”

Alot of modern firearms have such pronounced recoil because we use physical ammunition in cartridges

Those casings have to be ejected and so the blowback moves a charging handle, slide, or bolt which ejects it. This movement adds impact when being thrown back against your shoulder or hand

[dusk patrol]

You can make weapons which have no recoil due to how they displace the force or so little that they might as well not have any which I think is the point being made.

There’s definitely guns with effectively no recoil.

[unborn gust]

True. But there is still force being thrown back and there is recoil. It’s just you’re able to displace it

[dusk patrol]

Ok and we’re technically not actually touching the gun because our atoms are just hovering over one another barely

Like, it’s a moot distinction

[coral thicket]

Forgive me since this is probably a dumb question and my understanding of 40k lore is from like 2 universe summary videos -- if the emperor is still able to communicate psychically and they could be reborn if allowed to die, is there a reason they don't instruct their caregivers to cut off life support?

[dusk patrol]

He can’t communicate that way for one

[storm jungle]

Basically if he dies the hell-portal hes keeping closed under the throne opens and destroys Terra

[dusk patrol]

Not really

He’s super scattered

[storm jungle]

and Terra has the astronomicon among other things that helps the Imperial navy find their way in hte Milky Way galaxy using the warp

it would basically be catastrophic

[dusk patrol]

The conversation he had with Guilliman he could barely pay attention to him

[unborn gust]

Because someone thought it would be a good idea to use warp powers to talk to terra even after being told not to

Cough cough. Magnus

[storm jungle]

Yeah its like his dad should have told him about it or something

[dusk patrol]

At best he gives Custodes dreams but it’s not often a clear statement

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

And it’s not common

[unborn gust]

Big E was a shitty parent

[dusk patrol]

Magnus was also a dipshit tbh

[unborn gust]

A lot could have been avoided if he just sat down and talked to his kids

[dusk patrol]

“Oh wow some random entity in this evil dimension is offering me an absurd amount of power, better snag that”

[unborn gust]

But I do see his logic in not telling them about the webway

It is a risk telling his sons

[unborn gust]

Doesn’t his also give something to the black templars. Or are they just fanatical crackheads who think he is

[dusk patrol]

There’s definitely something that goes on with the Emperor’s Champion

There’s a few different things though

[coral thicket]

Ok. Is the hell portal from the dude barging in while he was working on the webway?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[unborn gust]

Basically

[dusk patrol]

He learned of Horus’s betrayal and wanted to tell him

So he threw his soul across the galaxy, but he couldn’t pierce a ward around Terra

[unborn gust]

I believe terra had some psychic barrier and magnus did the equivalent of taking shotgun to the generator

[dusk patrol]

Specifically where Big E was at

And then some “mysterious entity” offered him a shitload of power to pierce it

Which like a genius he did

[unborn gust]

So a bunch of daemons burst in because it breaks and now Big E has to sit on the throne to hold them off

[tight crater]

It has artificial recoil. The purpose for this is that when a gaurdsman shoots into a crowd if it didn't each shot would hit the same spot over and over minimizing effectiveness. by having a slight built in artificial recoil the gaurdsman can't hit 100% same spot thus ensuring that damage is distributed optimatly.

source: my ass

[coral thicket]

And daily psyker sacrifices to keep it going right?

[storm jungle]

Yeah a lot of them

but the Throne is currently failing atm

but wont blow up because we need to sell toys

[coral thicket]

Lol

[storm jungle]

so consider it in a limbo state

Im not joking FYI

[unborn gust]

If the throne breaks humanity is kinda fucked

Cause then we can’t navigate the warp

[coral thicket]

Right because he's also serving as a giant lighthouse basically?

[unborn gust]

Essentially

[dusk patrol]

It’s in limbo until it isn’t but it is but also it isn’t

[worn cargo]

DORN DORN DORN DORN DORN DORN

[unborn gust]

Navigating the warp is like driving a boat through dense fog

Without a lighthouse you’ll run aground and get eaten by daemons

[worn cargo]

they HAVE to bring back dorn with what was set up, there’s no way it’s not going to be dorn as the next primarch I will be MAD if it’s the Lion

[storm jungle]

I dont want another Primarch

they can fuck off to the Horus Heresy where they belong and hog all the spotlight

[final spruce]

How bout a daemon one ?

[unborn gust]

Bring back Big E

[storm jungle]

Daemons work

👁️

[worn cargo]

but the sales

[dusk patrol]

I want more primarchs just because it triggers people I won’t lie

[storm jungle]

💀

[dusk patrol]

[unborn gust]

A big E mini would sell like gold

[final spruce]

Can't wait to kill the Emperor with 10 leman russes

[dusk patrol]

It’s likely we’re getting a Hersey Big E model

[unborn gust]

Kill the emperor with 20 guardsmen

[dusk patrol]

There’s rules for him I believe or going to be, and the Horus ascendant model is perfectly setup for a diorama

[storm jungle]

As god intended.

[worn cargo]

Plus didn’t they like ||kill the leader of the adeptus mechanicus & the drukhari over negotiations for the golden throne parts?||

[storm jungle]

He is 100% getting a mini for HH

[storm jungle]

Nah not the leader

its literally some random high ranking techpriest

[dusk patrol]

Just a dingbat who set it up

[storm jungle]

also like

a rando inquisitor

[worn cargo]

Oh

[storm jungle]

it was basically their own little plot that went nowhere

[worn cargo]

I thought the leader of the adeptus mechanicus was dead not some rando

[storm jungle]

Hes not dead

[dusk patrol]

Some geniuses who thought that trusting the Drukhari with the future of the imperium would be a good plan

[storm jungle]

and it wasnt the Fabricator General that met with the druks

again it was just some high-ranking admech person

[dusk patrol]

The Fabricator General is referenced in more recent books

[storm jungle]

Yeah he is

[worn cargo]

no dorn

[dusk patrol]

Regent’s Shadow for example

And they’re done by the same author

As it is now it seems based off leaks and the like that the Lion or Russ are gonna come back next for loyalist primarchs. But who knows when that is.

[errant yacht]

Considering that vehicles named after Space Marine primarchs are just a thing now, how long until we see rough riders on Jaghatai Khan mobile horses?

Like, actual horse robots

[storm jungle]

Never because GW doesn't care about White Scars

[copper cliff]

Why do you remind me of sad things?

[errant yacht]

Well shit. Still dunno how to feel about primarch-named vehicles being a thing now cuz the Leman Russ just seemed like a one-off

We'll probably get the Roubute Guilliman transport vehicle or something like that. Or a Sanguinius fighter craft

[copper cliff]

Guilliman's Ghillie Guerilla Gunship

[fierce pendant]

Why just vehicles, let's have a line of torture devices named after Lion El'Jonson

Or types of cement and building materials after Rogal Dorn.

[copper cliff]

The Rogal Dorn Memorial Hospital

[fierce pendant]

ROGALIUM STEEL

[errant yacht]

We already have the Royal Dorn heavy support tank

Ferrus Mannus artillery battery, maybe?

[copper cliff]

Tbh Im surprised there already isn't a Guilliman vehicle. But I guess his thing is Primaris marines

[errant yacht]

Actually, I think a combat walker named after the Iron Hands' primarch would be more fitting.

[storm jungle]

Never because GW doesn't care about Iron Hands

[copper cliff]

An Iron Hands vehicle would just be a massive body horror servitor monster

[errant yacht]

Is it because the Iron Hands would canonically not care about the upgrading of organic components with more organics?

[storm jungle]

no its because nobody remembers the Iron Hands

they are one of the biggest footnote loyalist Chapters

[errant yacht]

Two words: Emperor's Shadows

An Iron Hands successor chapter that GW didn't write any lore about. At all.

[rose thorn]

Isn’t the emperors shadow from someone’s kit bashes they submitted To white dwarf?

[errant yacht]

It was actually done by Games Workshop staff

IMO, the Centurions were a missed opportunity to actually write the Shadows into lore. Japan-themed SM chapter going to battle with mecha seems fitting for them

Inb4 their biggest rival is a Speed Freek mekboss named "Da Red Kommit"

[mossy mortar]

like maybe told him "cool it with the warp powers, I got a plan and you stay put"?