Sometimes tyranids look.
#40k-lore-chat
copper cliff
copper cliff
gigachad
dusk patrol
record scratch
“Yep, that’s me”
plush mason
i never noticed the ogryn has gorilla arms till i played the beta the first time lol
plush mason
ikr
rose thorn
Tbh I love nids, it’s bio punk as fuck
jovial oxide
... but the Zerg is based on the Nids cause Starcraft was originally meant to have had been a 40k game...
rose thorn
Also bugs <3
dusk patrol
i never noticed the ogryn has gorilla arms till i played the beta the first time...
They do a great job making you feel like an Ogryn
The perspective, and how much every attack you do staggers the fuck out of everything. It’s great.
final spruce
The best part is the ragdolls on hits, you send them flying and even a slap is enough to stagger enemies like the mauler
You really feel the strength that, lore wise makes em throw space marines around like, well ragdolls
dusk patrol
It was a big change when I switched to another class and wasn’t staggering the Maulers and everything with every heavy.
dusk patrol
Didn’t realize how much much power they gave the Ogryns hits.
final spruce
https://gfycat.com/measlyflashygadwall
I hesitated to post that one yeah
dusk patrol
There’s that one gif of the guy yeeting someone with the zealots charged up Thunder hammer, which is like the default attack for Ogryn
Lots of fun.
stable knoll
Holy shit I'm happy I picked ogryn
quaint sparrow
ogryns protect the puny humies
jovial oxide
Ogryn is alpha smarts
outer apex
The best part is the ragdolls on hits, you send them flying and even a slap is e...
if you mean on darktide, i agree
even with the thunder hammer is amazing
i hope they never change nor tweak the radgoll physics
is perfect as it is
tawdry escarp
Watching an Ogryn bitch slap an enemy around is hilarious
plush mason
https://gfycat.com/measlyflashygadwall
my man did a literal cartwheel in the air
tawdry escarp
Did you see the post of the sub Reddit where a player hit a poxwalker with a powered up thunder hammer and it flew through the air and smacked into a wall?
tawdry escarp
arctic talon
@humble solstice gona reply to the skitarii thing in here but mars styled skitarii are pretty individualistic they only really become mind slaves when somthing super important needs to get done
humble solstice
<@156655470331822081> gona reply to the skitarii thing in here but mars styled s...
Like a Darktide mission, I would assume
arctic talon
Depends
dusk patrol
Depends but it seems the Inquisition doesn’t care how we accomplish our missions in this game
As long as the primary objective is done
humble solstice
Could chalk it up to signal interference
arctic talon
Usually skitarii aren’t directly controlled unless it’s like that specific skitarii is retrieving an artifact
But usually the tech priests/higher ranking skitarii give them an order
humble solstice
The machine godhandler giving you parameters because control is impossible so far inside tertium.
dusk patrol
I would personally say a Techpriest of some sort is more likely, but I would gladly take either
arctic talon
Yeah
ripe ravine
Skitarius is a fun novella that goes POV on mechanicum infantry
arctic talon
Yep
ripe ravine
basically yes their tech priest can "assume direct control"
but only when they need to
dusk patrol
Yeah it’s dependent on the forge world and tech priest or leader or whatever.
earnest pasture
hello
errant yacht
Is it bad that I wanna see an All-Terra regiment in 40K's lore? IIRC, all Hive Worlds have to provide bodies to the Astra Militarum, and I doubt even the Capital of the Imperium has any special immunities. Hell, I could see a Terran regiment having a penal legion consisting of nobles forced to live in poverty due to operating under the misconception that they could buy their way out of enlistment
I also wanna think that an all-Terra regiment would be subjected to insults like "wannabe Space Marines" due to having the best weapons and armor money can buy, possibly to make up for a lack of combat skill
dusk patrol
There are some but we don’t see them much
The Old One Hundred
They show up in Watchers of the Throne
They primarily defend Terra itself
errant yacht
I was more thinking of noblemen from the Imperium's capital being prodded by the Astra Militarum to defend the Imperium across the far reaches of space
spiral grove
if i remember right aren't the Lucifer Blacks also all terran?
dusk patrol
Yeah, they’re not the old one hundred but they all hail from there or did at least
I don’t think we have much knowledge of current LBs
errant yacht
Don't those regiments usually act like glorified PDFs?
dusk patrol
Varies, they have a good showing in the Watchers books
But they don’t tend to see a lot of combat
spiral grove
I don’t think we have much knowledge of current LBs
sadly they have been killed and reformed far too often
plus as preatoreans of terra they dont get out much
errant yacht
Maybe i'm just biased towards the idea of the Militarum going like "Okay rich kids. Party's over. You guys will work for us or we'll make you. No special favours will get you out of this. Oh, you tried to bribe us? Hope you enjoy defending the Imperium with a machete and nothing else"
dusk patrol
I think they mention them in Regent’s Shadow but they don’t do much
spiral grove
the showed up in the war of the beast but thats about it
dusk patrol
Yeah but I’m talking recent books
spiral grove
Maybe i'm just biased towards the idea of the Militarum going like "Okay rich ki...
would be interesting but sadly i cant see it happening
dusk patrol
WotB is closer to the Heresy than current 40k
They show up in Legion during the heresy
spiral grove
honestly there are a lot of regiments that i'd love to see more of (vitrian dragoons for instance)
spiral grove
By WotB they suck but that’s everything
yeah they got annihilated during the heresy
and i have to agree
not the biggest fan of WoTB
dusk patrol
They’ve had a rough go of it. Almost got wiped out during Reunifiction, then almost got wiped out during the Heresy.
errant yacht
Is it bad that I can see a Terra-born commissar being rich enough to afford power armor fitted for regular humans?
dusk patrol
I would say it’s typical for homebrews
But that’s not typically how Commissar’s work
spiral grove
Is it bad that I can see a Terra-born commissar being rich enough to afford powe...
honestly i can see that but becoming a commisar does involve getting orphaned so they probably dont have the resources sadly
errant yacht
Would they be even poorer than rich conscripts?
dusk patrol
I would hazard against it though
Very very very few normies have power armor
Even for high ranking Inquisitors it’s rare
Carapace? Master crafted armor? Sure
Power armor? Not common.
errant yacht
I know, hence why I figured a commissar hailing from a of a noble family of Holy Terra might have the cash for power armor
spiral grove
Would they be even poorer than rich conscripts?
yes and no
if the survive the training they have the backing of the imperium to a degree on getting them gear and into a combat zone but thats about it
dusk patrol
The Commissariat provides
spiral grove
I know, hence why I figured a commissar hailing from a of a noble family of Holy...
it also depends on where in terra
because those with the wealth to do it aren't going to war and those who are probably cant eat
dusk patrol
Typically Commissars have much better weapons and gear than most of the Guard
spiral grove
The Commissariat provides
exactly
dusk patrol
Generally a chainsword and some kind of special pistol of their choice
errant yacht
it also depends on where in terra
because those with the wealth to do it aren't ...
Iunno, I figured even the wealthy aren't immune to conscription, and bribery's probably a good way to be in a penal legion, no matter how rich you are.
spiral grove
lord commissars and up could probably get power armor but they are like 1 in hundred million or something
very few and farbetween
dusk patrol
Yeah
spiral grove
Iunno, I figured even the wealthy aren't immune to conscription, and bribery's p...
they aren't immune but they can influence where they get conscripted too
and a commissar can't be conscripted either
dusk patrol
Plasma pistols and Bolter pistols are pretty common, and power swords are fairly common.
Although generally they have to earn those in some way.
spiral grove
honestly a commissar has the best gear you can get without stepping into power armor range
errant yacht
Plasma pistols and Bolter pistols are pretty common, and power swords are fairly...
Do the jokes about "get a plasma pistol by insulting a techpriest" have any merit?
dusk patrol
Not really, the joke is how dangerous they are
But their danger isn’t a thing in lore mostly
spiral grove
its a weapon that has a chance to blow up but if you manage heat correctly it probably wont
dusk patrol
You have to completely overuse and abuse the pistol or whatever generally for it to happen
Or have a really shitty quarter master
spiral grove
or supercharge but thats still a low chance
dusk patrol
Yeah
Most likely it’ll just damage it
And might burn you
And commissars are not gonna be the guys to mishandle their weapons
They’re given close to the same training as Scions
spiral grove
commissars are the guys who if you slightly fumble your weapon they will come over, show you how to do it right, then shoot you with it
errant yacht
I thought Imperial plasma weapons are infamous for catastrophic weapon failures
spiral grove
I thought Imperial plasma weapons are infamous for catastrophic weapon failures
no thats just the luck of the tabletop
dusk patrol
Chaos weapons are more dangerous also
More powerful but more unstable typically
Although all this varies on craftsmanship of the weapon
spiral grove
everything goes well till you roll a bunch of 1s and you loose a squad to overcharge
errant yacht
everything goes well till you roll a bunch of 1s and you loose a squad to overch...
And then the Primaris Space Marines have a squad that specializes in that
spiral grove
even then there is a decent chance you'll survive a plasma explosion of that size probably wont kill you sense your not going to bleed out
dusk patrol
Like marine plasma weapons are way more stable than the standard guard one.
The shitty thing though is lugging a plasma weapon around is gonna burn you
Same with Meltas, it’s not fun
spiral grove
true
errant yacht
Somehow, I imagine a Hellblaster doing that "Gets Hot" pose pulling the trigger, the Plasma Gun making a firing noise, and turns his head thinking his weapon fired safely, only to notice that he's suddenly missing a right arm
spiral grove
vert true
dusk patrol
If you notice how this dude is holding it, plus his armor, it’s so it won’t burn him.
spiral grove
Somehow, I imagine a Hellblaster doing that "Gets Hot" pose pulling the trigger,...
bro hellblasters would watch that shit as it blows up
space marines aren't cowards
dusk patrol
I’ll try to find an image but there’s one of a more standard guard holding one with burnt hands and shit.
atomic pelican
P much all plasma weapons overcharged have a chance of gooning the user
dusk patrol
Here it is, this one is overheating though.
atomic pelican
Hell, even tau plasma weapons can overcharge fail now
spiral grove
true
errant yacht
bro hellblasters would watch that shit as it blows up
space marines aren't cowar...
"I'll kill you with my feet!" - Probably a Space Marine after a plasma weapon incident
dusk patrol
Well they’re gonna chuck the gun if it starts going off
Typically at least if they can
crisp heath
Is it bad that I can see a Terra-born commissar being rich enough to afford powe...
rogue traders can pull this off iirc
spiral grove
space marines are probably the only beings that a plasma gun going off doesnt really pose a huge threat unless it outright kills them
spiral grove
of course
errant yacht
It'll still most likely amputate the hand(s) holding the weapon if they do survive
dusk patrol
But generally it’s not just overheating
atomic pelican
Well, the thing is that marines tend to carry Legion Plasma weapons which, when overcharge failing. Hurt more
dusk patrol
It’s like, it got blasted and blown apart and it ignited
spiral grove
It'll still most likely amputate the hand(s) holding the weapon if they do survi...
yeah but space marine apothicaries are some of the best in the universe so they will be back in action very quick
dusk patrol
But like we said, overcharging like that is not common
And marines are more aware than anyone of how much they can push their guns
errant yacht
yeah but space marine apothicaries are some of the best in the universe so they ...
They'll have to kick hard enough to kill xenos and heretics if they wanna live to see bionic limb surgery.
spiral grove
they can do that right on the battlefield
dusk patrol
Iron Hands don’t see the issue
spiral grove
the job of an apothicary is to keep the space marine alive at all costs and if they cant to harvest the geneseed
hell there has been times that dreadnaught entombment has happened right on the battle field
storm jungle
Basically just actual medics
just include ripping out a vital organ-mcguffin if you die
spiral grove
yup
storm jungle
Giving CPR with a boltgun 😔
spiral grove
yup
dusk patrol
Their bedside manner may have something to be desired but they know what they’re doing
spiral grove
efficiency over comfort
dusk patrol
There’s a great bit in a Heresy book where one has to deliver a baby via c-section and it acts more uncomfortable handling an infant than it does actually doing the surgery
Once it has the baby out it gives it to someone else as fast as it can.
spiral grove
the horus heresy series is fantastic because of stuff like that
the space marines are still human in a respect
storm jungle
There’s a great bit in a Heresy book where one has to deliver a baby via c-secti...
I think he also goes like
"Is it a boy or a girl?"
"It's... a baby."
unique berry
I think he also goes like
Do u even sleep? Lol
storm jungle
Nah
dusk patrol
She’s just using her sus-membrane
storm jungle
might in a bit
unique berry
dusk patrol
Sussy baka meme brain
spiral grove
damn that was heretical enough that even the warpsmith was startled
dusk patrol
Hey the susmembrane is a real thing at least
It’s not my fault it’s hilarious with recent memes
spiral grove
very true
spiral grove
yeah
near hedge
The Amogus-gland helps marines with telling who is a traiter
plush mason
lmao
spiral grove
its a blessing of tzeentch
unique berry
On a heretic scale its Horus lvl
spiral grove
On a heretic scale its Horus lvl
chief i think its surpasses horus level
unique berry
True its out of scale
dusk patrol
Tfw you’re fighting with a Blood Angel and suddenly he starts asking about some dude named Horace and why he betrayed him.
spiral grove
at least you wont have to listen to it for long
dusk patrol
crisp heath
how did the emperor not see the heresy coming when horus's last name is "Heresy"???
dusk patrol
The guy named Mortarion and Angry Ron really should have been more obvious.
errant yacht
Have you talked to your apothecary about that?
Unless of course, his name happens to also be Sanguinius.
Ahh. Just wanted to make a Black Rage joke :v
I wanna think that Black Rage marines are quite friendly and sociable towards their fellow Sanguiniuses in a world full of Horuses
unique berry
errant yacht
point at video
dusk patrol
Nah, he’s just not sure of his place anymore. He feels useless, he wouldn’t dream of ending Guilliman though.
misty coyote
Where do ogryns come from? Are they born from humans? Are there ogryn women?
near hedge
high gravity planets caused a sub species of super strong humans to come about, the ogryns, there are indeed female ogryns but they aint common
copper cliff
imagine you live your whole life where rocks are really heavy then you go to a planet where rocks are extremely light. Mfer would feel like a god if they weren't so dumb
Some superman shit
misty coyote
Neato
copper cliff
I understand holosights as a gameplay reason but what's the precident for attachments like that and the flashlight?
near hedge
prolly none, can't imagine with the scale of stories typically that many involve a full detail presentation of the lasguns, alongside it not being on minis because, duh
crisp heath
Lasgun Relic?
I’ve heard of a relic Bolter before
It’s possible that the rejected just picked up a random holosight from a floor somewhere lol
It’s the 2nd millennium tech, after all
copper cliff
In general I feel like lasgun lore is a branching path of
A: Does guard get slaughtered?
B: Flashlight
or
A: Guard protagonist?
B: Fully automatic .50 caliber rifle with infinite ammo
crisp heath
With Emperor’s blessing, everything is possible
plush mason
a guardsmen's life is to die
near hedge
NOW DATS WHY ORKS ARE DA BETTERZ OF DAH 'IMP-EE-REAL GUARD'
copper cliff
WAAAAAGH
crisp heath
What’s a life without dying anyway?
Growing and rotting?
That’s quite Nurgle to me
copper cliff
uncorruptable orks
near hedge
I enjoy the bit of rogue trader era lore where there were orks who worshipped Khorne
copper cliff
Its time to play kek or cringe with Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka
near hedge
I prefer my mates "Minge or Cringe" even if it dint make sense
copper cliff
whinge or cringe
plush mason
so can ogryn use chain weapons of any kind?
celest dome
In theory, yes
Though there has never been any showcase of it
We have Ogryn with Power Maul and such, no reason for there to no be the same with Chains
dusk patrol
With the weapon leak thing, it looks like they probably have a chain axe.
Possibly an eviscerator too.
uncut turtle
Possibly an eviscerator too.
breathing excitedly
dusk patrol
The one issue is typically Ogryn's don't use weapons which require much complex manipulation to use, which is why we typically don't see them with anything more complex than something you can bash with.
But its a game and who cares its cool.
celest dome
The Chain axe is likely a 2h Chain Axe for the Zealot
copper cliff
The Ogryns also seem more like boneheads here
dusk patrol
There's two chain axes
uncut turtle
If you can two-hand chain axes then that's all I need
dusk patrol
One could be for the Ogryn, maybe. Its hard to say.
celest dome
Yes, 1h and 2h
uncut turtle
*Dual wield
celest dome
Same
copper cliff
I just want power sword to be good
uncut turtle
Skulls for the Golden Throne
dusk patrol
I'm not saying its 100% chance I'm just saying its a possibility.
celest dome
And we actually do no know if it's not possible due to the Ogryn Shield
dusk patrol
We don't even know how the shield works in gameplay.
And a 2H axe for a zealot could easily be a 1H weapon for an Ogyrn
uncut turtle
The Warhammer is already a happy weapon to use in the game, I can only imagine a chainaxe revving
dusk patrol
I don't think its likely but its possible.
copper cliff
I wish the chainsword was better
celest dome
And a 2H axe for a zealot could easily be a 1H weapon for an Ogyrn
Fair, fair
dusk patrol
Like I said, Ogryn's don't tend to use complex weapons
And chain weapons are fairly complex.
But we'll see
I'm hopeful.
copper cliff
if I could redesign its moveset I'd make normal attacks more crowd controlly and change the special attack while making heavy attacks do the grinding move
uncut turtle
It's just rev, maim, slash, rev, parry/reverse and repeat
celest dome
Are they ? Maybe his will be modified to be always reving
uncut turtle
Not crazy complex, imo
copper cliff
You already hear it revving more when you charge a heavy
The whole process of revving is just clunky and doesn't fit into the rhythm well
uncut turtle
Rev it to inspire or during the music
dusk patrol
Its possible, there's multiple things it could do. Plus a bon'ead maybe could figure it out or whatever.
copper cliff
It also doesn't last long enough for a fully charged heavy
uncut turtle
Then the rhythym game begins
dusk patrol
Based off how the shield shows in the inventory I wonder if its just gonna be an option to replace the ranged weapon.
And you can use it with any melee weapon.
copper cliff
Which is kinda wack imo, not for power but just the feel is weird
celest dome
It's similar to the Force Sword on the special, but fell more clunky
Since different Pattern of weapon have different special, maybe one will have it differently
copper cliff
Based off how the shield shows in the inventory I wonder if its just gonna be an...
Sacrifice ranged to protect from ranged makes sense to me
celest dome
Based off how the shield shows in the inventory I wonder if its just gonna be an...
Then would the Grenadier Gauntlet be a Melee one ?
dusk patrol
I do hope the chain axes don't function like VT axes and have better crowd control.
copper cliff
Or they should change the special to the entire attack. Rev and grind
uncut turtle
The WarHammer is the same way Ace, it has an electrical charge like the revving for special, how i just got used to it was using the special moves for bigger enemies or Maulers
celest dome
We did see them in the Zealot Spotlight
dusk patrol
Then would the Grenadier Gauntlet be a Melee one ?
No clue, it would be odd if you can't use the Nade gauntlet with the shield.
The gauntlet is designed to be a melee weapon too in lore.
So maybe?
They use the nade to disorient and fuck up the enemy and then rush in.
uncut turtle
Yeah that's pretty much what we do
dusk patrol
But then again, all Ogryn weapons are meant to be used as melee weapons in lore.
Rippers they put a governor on to curtail the fire so they Ogryns don't waste all the ammo immediately.
celest dome
Maybe the Ogryn will have the possibility to use a secondary weapon slot, but only the Shield can be put in it. And it change your attack pattern
dusk patrol
Yeah that would be cool too.
I just want the shield, it was painful playing Ogryn on higher difficulties.
I would gladly give up their mostly meh ranged weapons for it.
copper cliff
Ogryn feels really useful to the team as just a meatshield
celest dome
And they could use the same system to give twin melee. Or they make it differnt pattern to limit the work
dusk patrol
I do hope we get dual wielding options, at least for the zealot.
Maybe pistol and blade for Vet
uncut turtle
I do hope we get dual wielding options, at least for the zealot.
That would make me very happy indeed
Especially with how light those swords feel
Even something basic like old Skyrim combos
dusk patrol
I expect one of the Vets subclasses may end up being a commissar or officer and not being able to use a pistol and sword combo would feel sacrilegious
uncut turtle
Heresy, no less
I have noticed though a lot of Vets need saving
That scope and ads can really screw them over in a scrap
dusk patrol
I can't tell if its just shit teammates or if they really need that much help.
copper cliff
vets are great at picking off priority targets but they need flank protection
dusk patrol
Probably little column a, little column b.
celest dome
We've got a lot of Swords
But I wonder if the one in the middle are 2 Force Sword or Power Sword (2h)
uncut turtle
vets are great at picking off priority targets but they need flank protection
I agree
uncut turtle
Like I mentioned before, as a Zealot they have saved my ass numerous times as i Dive into the enemy hordes in savage glee
copper cliff
The most annoying thing as a vet main is you murderizing the ranged guys but instead of your zealot and ogryn killing the melee nerds around you they rush towards the ranged guys who are dead by the time they get there while you're swarmed
uncut turtle
picking off trappers and hounds while I kill the Maulers etc
uncut turtle
The most annoying thing as a vet main is you murderizing the ranged guys but ins...
I usually throw a grenade on you Vets to flash the enemies and beeline it for the Ranged guys so I can jill them fast
Faster I kill em, the more of us stay alive on higher difficulties
dusk patrol
The issue is as Ogryn I have to rush the ranged dudes or I get wrecked.
Which is why I want the shield.
Once I get a better team though I can have teammates who know to suppress the ranged guys during the horde.
In the beta I couldn't count on any of my teammates mostly.
copper cliff
I'm very good at picking off ranged guys I just need to not be staggered constantly by jimbo ratass and his fucking aids club
uncut turtle
For the constant fire, it's literally just approach at a diaganol and you'll get there Zealots. but these guys love to just headlong it into the fire
uncut turtle
I'm very good at picking off ranged guys I just need to not be staggered constan...
I make it a priority to save my Princess Vets so that they in turn can save my shiny ass as lasburns chase me up the ratholes
Mark a Mauler and I'm there in a heartbeat
copper cliff
I've noticed I can only really rely on Ogryn cause they're just embracing the loveable himbo energy. And I've gotten really good at just ripping through assault squads
uncut turtle
Assault squads aare the pretty little things with rifles and green eyes, yes?
copper cliff
yeah
uncut turtle
So squishy, I love killing those guys
copper cliff
I like headshotting them but it only takes 2 shots from the Ia to the body to kill so pretty easy
dusk patrol
It is a lot of fun as an Ogryn just bullying the fuck out of Maulers
Poor guys just keep getting knocked down.
copper cliff
Maulers are vet cryptonite
uncut turtle
On Eternals point about Ogryn shields, I heavily agree because often when an Ogryn needs to clutch up, if they're not supporting a team they will flail, wither, and die
copper cliff
They appear from the shadows and slamma jamma all over your fucking service record
uncut turtle
That's why i got me a big fucking hammer
The WarHammer is so rewarding to finally use
Just bop, and 2 more hits till they dead
copper cliff
I don't mind trappers cause they're noisy and squishy
Gunners can be annoying cause it always feels like it should take 1 less bullet to kill them?
And then sometimes I one shot them cause crits be wilding
uncut turtle
I'll be swimming through a sea of blood and bad fps with a blur or noise and color, only to suddenly be caught in a net - very bad vibes
copper cliff
I guess I'm also coming at this from the perspective as the guy behind the crates gunning everything down at a distance
uncut turtle
I love me God-Emperor. Love me WarHammer. Love me Guard. But them fucking net shooters can go to the back ass of Hell and never come back
copper cliff
I'm happy ammo management is as easy at is and I can just enjoy corridor shooting with a gun
uncut turtle
I guess I'm also coming at this from the perspective as the guy behind the crate...
Which is enlightening as the guy neck deep in the thick of it with the only thoughts of A) How many more can I kill. B)Hit, Parry, Readdress, Kill, Kill, Kill C) Check the Health bar
plush mason
I love me God-Emperor. Love me WarHammer. Love me Guard. But them fucking net sh...
net goblin noises intensify
uncut turtle
Since I can't really see the screen most of the time, I just go for it
dusk patrol
I think my issue is they have no delay between doing that and then immediately hitting the next person.
copper cliff
Tbh I'm pretty good at killing the stun specials for the team except hounds who seem WAY too fast for even their own animations?
it always looks like they're gliding
At least they're squish
and usually hunting me
dusk patrol
They disable, and then can go disable the next almost immediately. While the packmaster and gutter runner and so on in VT could only disable one person at a time.
Same with most enemies in this game.
uncut turtle
Those chargers seem to have an affinity for me
copper cliff
But you also have more ranged options to deal with them
dusk patrol
I think it would balance them if maybe the net wasn't forever, or if they freed up the person who got disabled last when they got another person.
uncut turtle
Dashing through the entire squad to give me a good smackin
dusk patrol
Especially because its so much harder to free people in a horde than it is in VT
copper cliff
I think maybe they should just function more like the snatcher rats
uncut turtle
I think it would balance them if maybe the net wasn't forever, or if they freed ...
Please do this. I'm trapped in a net and can do nothing but watch helplessly as my team takes all my glorious melee kills
copper cliff
grab ya and drag ya
dusk patrol
If they were limited to one person at a time or had a timed net then I think they would be far less annoying. as you say.
plush mason
Those chargers seem to have an affinity for me
in my last run of the beta i watched a mutant ignore all 3 of us that was in his LOS to charge the vet. it had me rolling
dusk patrol
Also an Ogryn should be able to break out of that I mean come on.
No way that shit is Ogryn graded.
copper cliff
I love mutants
uncut turtle
I'm half blind in the eyes, so playing as a Zealot feels very "accessable" to me as a player. I love the melee aspect, and how Crunchy the hits feel
copper cliff
they're so fun to watch go
plush mason
he literally went around 2 different doors to get to the vet
copper cliff
I actually wish mutants were tankier tbh
it feels weird they're so squish and half the time they don't even do damage
uncut turtle
If any of you saw Senya diving into enemy mobs, that was me
I don't feel I got much sleep playing the beta, and just jamming to the soundtrack
copper cliff
Me neither
uncut turtle
it feels weird they're so squish and half the time they don't even do damage
They really are just a big inconvenience
copper cliff
I kinda like being tossed by them tbh I hate when they're interrupted smh
They save me from hordes
plush mason
the music for the plague ogryn was flat out terrifying
copper cliff
unironically
uncut turtle
I kinda like being tossed by them tbh I hate when they're interrupted smh
The animation is so cool too, like thanks bro I needed away from this shitfest
copper cliff
I want ogryn to get an ability like mutant
uncut turtle
Once a mutant came and threw me out of the flaming barrel
copper cliff
but a friendly toss
uncut turtle
❤️ Me muties
plush mason
The animation is so cool too, like thanks bro I needed away from this shitfest
untill it yeets you off the map
copper cliff
but that shit's so fucking funny
dusk patrol
I do love that the Ogryn can run while carrying something.
copper cliff
I can't wait for mutant toss compilations
dusk patrol
Its a fun mechanic.
uncut turtle
untill it yeets you off the map
I already yeet myself off the map as a Zealot, not bad bro
copper cliff
Everyone can run while carrying he just runs faster I think
uncut turtle
hahaha
dusk patrol
Either way, he's faster with the big stuff.
I think at least, maybe my team was just shit.
I felt like I noticed a difference
copper cliff
He is faster with big stuff
uncut turtle
I made the silly of going to rescue my team on a tier 3 run on the ammo raid level, only to zealot dash off the side of the platform and into the Hive abyss
great stuff
uncut turtle
Zealot moment
It's 50/50 with us if we're going to nut up or shut up
Team comps are weird, but when you have a team that's just flowing through the level it is a Beauty to experience
copper cliff
I love team comps that know when to flank enemy hordes so veterans can gun down the center core
Its a beautiful sight of stacking bodies
uncut turtle
When you have the team where a level 3 wants to do a Tier 3 or 4, that's when the God-Emperor himself doesn't have enough faith in us
uncut turtle
I love team comps that know when to flank enemy hordes so veterans can gun down ...
I love it when I have a Vet that knows their business - cracking headshots and blasting down the rear of a Bullgryn as I trim the fat and slay the horde
copper cliff
Seems like most really wanna do the grenadier thing which is fine but I really like sharpshootin
Plus flashlight mechanics are cool
uncut turtle
Nothings more annoying then having to deal with a sniper or special while I'm trying to duel two Maulers and a various amount of armored bros
Honestly a little jealous of the flashlight, though I can't even see much half the time, it still looks cool
plush mason
Nothings more annoying then having to deal with a sniper or special while I'm tr...
try that but add a plague ogryn
that happened to me yesterday
uncut turtle
try that but add a plague ogryn
I tried, but the Ogryn I was paired with decided to stand there and do NOTHING
copper cliff
Snipers are so easy to deal with
uncut turtle
I almost won the duel, but alas, loser, and raid wipe
copper cliff
they're like a one shot from fucking anything to the chest
uncut turtle
they're like a one shot from fucking anything to the chest
I like to charge up my special hammer, justtt for little squishies like them
Thank the God-Emperor they charge me half the time
plush mason
yeah but when you have a boss and 2 maulers/bulwarks all bunched up in a small room and the sniper spawns somewhere in the back of the pack of traitor guards that just spawned the sniper can be very hard to deal with.
copper cliff
They will sometimes spawn in unreachable locations
uncut turtle
They will sometimes spawn in unreachable locations
Use the other Zealot or Vet in the squad as a piece of bait and laugh as the sniper gets closer
uncut turtle
yeah but when you have a boss and 2 maulers/bulwarks all bunched up in a small r...
That sounds like a pain in the ass, had a mutie repeatedly slam me when I was trying to fight a plague ogryn on a bleeding catwalk
copper cliff
Also fun fact ranged enemy's guns will flash before they fire giving you a warning to dodge
plush mason
That sounds like a pain in the ass, had a mutie repeatedly slam me when I was tr...
it fucking was
uncut turtle
Also fun fact ranged enemy's guns will flash before they fire giving you a warni...
Noticed that part, delicious to avoid their fire, but to circle back on my earlier statement: the damn other Zealots need to zig-zag/bob and weave to the enemy fire locations
plush mason
That sounds like a pain in the ass, had a mutie repeatedly slam me when I was tr...
also i had 3 mutants spawn along side a plague ogryn in another mission
uncut turtle
Laser wall of death is a bit annoying
uncut turtle
They see red and just go Khorne
The advanced tutorial even has a point on how to avoid the laser fire
Move side or diagonal to it!
plush mason
i imagine most just skipped the advanced tutorial
copper cliff
I wanted to see what was on offer even if it wasn't surprising
uncut turtle
Fair enough, but after beating your head against a red death wall enough times, you'd figure they'd learn
plush mason
gamers never learn
uncut turtle
I was hoping for a monetary reward on completion
Instead i got survival tips and how to be a better Zealot
copper cliff
Well the idea is zealot uses their ability to lock them in melee
uncut turtle
laaame
uncut turtle
Well the idea is zealot uses their ability to lock them in melee
Dunno what lock in melee is, I just keep bashing like a dragonball fight until the other fucker is dead
https://tenor.com/view/i-didnt-hear-no-bell-randy-marsh-south-park-s9e5-the-losing-edge-gif-22282212
Me on 1 hp and a dream through half a mission
copper cliff
There's like a hidden mechanic that's explained a bit about how you can trap ranged enemies in melee forcing them to fight you with melee weapons
Like how snipers will charge you
copper cliff
And zealot's charge is SUPPOSED to force that mechanic
uncut turtle
I just noticed those bastards would drop the gun and pull out a sword and come at me
So I just kept getting closer to repeat it
Didn't realize it was a special hidden mechanic or anything, just part of the Zealot formula
If you know what I mean
copper cliff
I think sometimes they'll run away to cover but if you lock them they'll have to fight
Bombers will kick you kek
uncut turtle
Run away? Negative, that implies they survived you
Zealots leave nothing alive, or let nothing go
Like a bad, thirsty ex with issues
plush mason
yeah all the classes can lock the enemy into melee by getting close
uncut turtle
Then again, that's just me from my experience in the front
plush mason
zealot and ogryn are just the best at it
copper cliff
I just wish they would stop making me and my dumb rambo knife tank the plague ogryn
uncut turtle
Okay there Sly Marbo
plush mason
just use heavy weight
plush mason
and be sure to dome his ass with your nade
uncut turtle
Those nade pack a freakin punch
plush mason
ye
uncut turtle
Though I'd ask any Vets to please avoid using them on my mobs of zombies as I'm swimming through the death and fury
I feel cucked at that point
uncut turtle
All my beautiful kills, are just gone
plush mason
the ogryn nade is made for those big bosses
uncut turtle
cry about it
Bastard, I'll leave you to the Maulers
I've only seen several good Ogryn players so far, and it saddens me
Had a level 6 on a Tier 4 with us almost pave and carry the way
plush mason
like the assassination mission boss just gets his shit rocked by the ogryn nade
uncut turtle
Glorious lad
uncut turtle
like the assassination mission boss just gets his shit rocked by the ogryn nade
It makes those runs real smooth
Especially that shield of his, the damn lightbulb just refuses to go down
copper cliff
Melee charged attacks fuck his shield
plush mason
ye
copper cliff
Honestly I can't wait to see flamethrower pox walker clearing
plush mason
get a zealot and an ogryn to charge him back to back and his shield just melts
uncut turtle
Sounds like you were playing with me, but I had an axe and that trench axe can loving one shot those armored guys
We just tackled him as best we could while our support handled the mobs and then finished him off
plush mason
oh yeah zealot axe is crazy strong
uncut turtle
It's better than the sword and WarHammer really
copper cliff
I can't wait for chain axe to bisect people down the middle
uncut turtle
It's stupid fast to wipe entire mobs and instakill armored foes besides Specials
I see a lot of Zealots using swords, and as a gimmick I get it
But the axe is superior by far
plush mason
i hope the wait isnt too long for the next round of testing
copper cliff
Sword is good for horde clear
uncut turtle
Honestly not as much as you'd think when it comes to Zealots
copper cliff
In the beta there was a vet sword that's power attack was just back and forth horizontal slashing
uncut turtle
Since Psyker and Vet can already slash and do all that clicking nonsense, the Zealot with an axe can just one shot everything in the horde
copper cliff
it was great
uncut turtle
it was great
The experience was amzing
copper cliff
I really enjoyed it
copper cliff
Look forward to getting dripped out over christmas break
plush mason
the parry on the sword was a nice feature
uncut turtle
And I love the little lore details that come with it
Especially being INSIDE a fully working Hive
Or at least under one
copper cliff
I fucking love this veteran armor.
uncut turtle
Zealot love
copper cliff
the urban camo pants just fit so nicely
uncut turtle
I really wanted to get those vestments, so I feel you man
plush mason
yeah vet's drip is still hella tempting for me but i have just fallen in love with ogryn gameplay
uncut turtle
It's the aesthetic appeal of the whole thing
copper cliff
Vet drip literally hyped me up on the game. I'm very aesthetic focused. IT JUST ALSO HAPPENS. its my favorite fps class ever
The lasguns feel so fucking good
uncut turtle
I like how often we get to see and interact with our characters too, the dialogue, character creation, third person Hub area
So fuckin good
copper cliff
Third person hub area is a feature I'm glad is becoming more popular
I like seeing my dude
plush mason
same
uncut turtle
Likewise, it reminds me of the old Destiny days
uncut turtle
Shotguns need more ammo capacity
imo
Just slam firing down a hallway is so deliciously gratifying
Even though I might miss a quarter of my shots
plush mason
tbh ill likely still make a vet first when the game goes live
copper cliff
uncut turtle
Berserker love
copper cliff
dripped tf out stomping on your block
uncut turtle
That's Guard love my dude
copper cliff
I wish guard models had as much detail
uncut turtle
It's a beautiful thing I wish was cosplayed/advertised more
copper cliff
Yeah
uncut turtle
I do like the progression too
copper cliff
I just hope its not too hard to get cool outfits
uncut turtle
Feel I'm actually being rewarded for playing by getting dripped out and kitted out with better weapons
plush mason
copper cliff
One of my favorite armor tropes is torso plate with overalls lol
Not overalls
uuh
suspenders!
uncut turtle
flak?
celest dome
I hope we can get those eyes for the Psyker
uncut turtle
Ah
uncut turtle
I hope we can get those eyes for the Psyker
That'd be nutty
I noticed quite a few Psykers as I played
Very tedious lot, kept tryin to take my kills
Very rewarding to kill a heretic before they finished taking their head
My Skulls for the Throne
copper cliff
I saw that for the lasgun
the flashlight special attack was labeled as bayonet
which makes me think we might get variants with bayonet attacks
Or laser sights
What I want though is those chainsaw underbarrels from gears of war
uncut turtle
Yesssss
uncut turtle
What I want though is those chainsaw underbarrels from gears of war
glorious zealotry intensifies
fierce pendant
I hope we can get those eyes for the Psyker
But we had glowing eyes option for psyker, didn't we?
copper cliff
Mauler gets in melee? YOU PICKED THE WRONG VET FOOL
uncut turtle
If they put either Krieg armor or bayonet moves in the game - I'm totally trying out a Vet character
celest dome
But we had glowing eyes option for psyker, didn't we?
Did we ? I only saw the normal eye colour (Unless you mean on cosmetic hats where I don't remember)
copper cliff
On an actual lore question.. Is it heretical for yarick to wear an Ork mecha arm?
celest dome
Wasn't that the Cadian eyes ?
fierce pendant
No
celest dome
On an actual lore question.. Is it heretical for yarick to wear an Ork mecha arm...
No, was sanctioned by the Adeptus Mechanicus
dusk patrol
No there's a option for just the psykers
Which as them glow
You can pick normal ones too though.
fierce pendant
Yee
celest dome
Huh, Imissed them then
copper cliff
Those bucket heads get all the fun
plush mason
Huh, Imissed them then
same
dusk patrol
I just happened to see them because I saw them on someone else, they're the light blue options I think.
fierce pendant
@celest dome normal and glowing eyes option
managed to redownload the game in the last 2 minutes to quickly show it 
plush mason
lol
celest dome
Oh, that's nice
hazy galleon
@hazy dew not nessecerily the question to those specific questions, but the Eisenhorn books is a very good dip into the deeper lore imo - starting with Xenos
hazy dew
not"read the wikis" like the other dude said... i know warhammer is deeper than just reading wiki's it's books and novels
perfect
hazy galleon
as an inqusitor, it kinda starts from a...Sherlock holmes perspective kinda
and very fitting considering we are rejects part of an inqusitor mission lol
hazy galleon
not"read the wikis" like the other dude said... i know warhammer is deeper than ...
i mean, it works well if you have something to search for most often xD
but no idea where you're at in warhammer - Eisenhorn as said, just bridges that gap of a detective thriller and warhammer 😛
uncut turtle
If you want blunt force trauma and a pro-Guard novel then read Cadian Blood by Aaron Dembski-Bowden
dusk patrol
@true sentinel I'm aware sisters do faith stuff a fair amount, its still not consistent and its often not enough. And on top of that, lone zealots like the ones we see in the game do not turn the tide. Its extremely rare to see them able to resist a chaos threat like that.
It could happen, in the same way one of our dudes could become a living saint or a space marine could show up or it turns out the Aquillan shield is watching over one of our guys and he bails us out. Meaning, its probably not, its rarer than chicken teeth.
worn fern
Bishops and zealots are constantly falling to chaos
thats how the whole deal on Vraks started as the cardinal got coerced into chaos
normal grove
I liked how much heresy my psyker was spouting
copper cliff
tbh its all fiction and our characters could be fucking gigachads that just chainsword the daemons back to hell. It doesn't seem unlikely especially since shit on that scale gets constantly merced anyway.
worn fern
What I will say is that this Inquisitor or whoever is running the show here has a lot foa faith and trust in the Rejects to not instantly fall to chaos or get sick from pox rot
copper cliff
The whole point is he doesn't have faith and trust in that
At first anyway
You're job is to die soldier.
And MAYBE sometimes. Do a thing
scenic bolt
using a giant mass of prisoners to root out a chaos cult is more an act of desperation or expediency than anything else
copper cliff
Its about plugging holes with whatever you can. Im pretty sure in the story we were just one some random prison transport ship when the inquis was like OI SEND DUDES! You mean nudes? IM IN A FIGHT WE NEED MORE MEN!
normal grove
Plus they're more expendable and cheaper than the guys who then send in on the game over screne, ie the actual Inquisitorial Death Squads.
copper cliff
The characters in dialogue mention that as bad as things are where they are its probably MUCH worse where the Inquisition is sending its actual elite forces.
worn fern
of ourse, I would love to know what the STs are being deployed on, though I doubt we as the players are in a position to ever find out
copper cliff
Probably something like the inquisition martyr game lmao
worn fern
like, actual daemon engines and the sort
and not the things we bash to death in the furnace
copper cliff
Probably fighting squads of plague ogryns
worn fern
or actual cultists
scenic bolt
once you're past lvl 5 you're not quite a prisoner anymore seeing as they let you ditch the detonation collar and the prison garb for proper kit, and its like around 20 you're in full blown inquisitorial acolyte colors
worn fern
well "acolyte" at that point you are just a lacky on the pay roll of the Inquisition
copper cliff
I think that boss in the closed beta, the captain guy is meant to be your sort of: Alright you're kinda cool, here's some drip. Then the inquisitor dabs you up
scenic bolt
people complaining about the lasgun elites, when we're prolly getting plasma elites later down the line
copper cliff
If its anything like the captain's plasma gun I'm not that scared
barren tapir
I mean, the heretic captain can have a plasma pistol iirc
barren tapir
If its anything like the captain's plasma gun I'm not that scared
Is it shit?
copper cliff
It like, fucks your toughness kinda? idk
worn fern
I love being juggled by a plasma pistol
scenic bolt
its one of the scariest ranged weapons he can get
scenic bolt
the shottys too close range you can keep distance well enough
worn fern
the issue with the pistol is that it can juggle you from further away and if you have pox walkers on you, then it becomes much harder to dodge
scenic bolt
or it knocks you into a pack of marauders
true sentinel
tbh its all fiction and our characters could be fucking gigachads that just chai...
You get it, we have protagonist energy. “Rejects will rise”
The veteran could be the next Gaunt or Cain
The Zealot could become a saint.
The psyker the best sanctioned one ever
The ogryn, all the rations he could eat.
copper cliff
I guess I just never really had an issue with it cause
copper cliff
You get it, we have protagonist energy. “Rejects will rise”
The veteran could ...
We are a named ultramarine in any story
true sentinel
We are the helmetless named Ultramarine.
worn fern
I sorta wish that the characters we have never get to the high levels of clout and instead get to the levels that 100 years down the line an old man will tell you the story of Gluphead the Ogryn
copper cliff
I don't think we'll get that clouted up
We'll probably just end up being that squad of rejects who did some cool shit on Atoma prime
Not like, the saviors of tertium
scenic bolt
narratively its mostly to justify why an inquisitor is handing out power weapons to some prisoners on suicide missions, we're the creme de la shit of prisoners
dusk patrol
I don't think you're realizing how absurdly uncommon it is, or more unheard of it is for a normal human to be able to survive within any distance of a daemon, let a lone a greater daemon.
The vast majority of Inquisitors with prep would die easily to one.
Grey Knights struggle with them hard.
dusk patrol
Ok and?
minor lance
GW has an iron grip on lore in any game using their IP
No matter what people want, GW has to sign off on it.
worn fern
Interrogator, "My Lord, of the rejects taskforce, the best team has just been vanquished by one of the chaos champions"
Inquisitor, "Did they slay the champion then?"
Interrogator, "No milord."
Inquisitor, "What a shame, thats more work for me then"
This is how much actual connection I think we will ever get, and hope we get. I dont want to be important
copper cliff
Also I don't want greater daemons who tf wants those
scenic bolt
well probably fight the guys trying to summon a greater demon
copper cliff
I think people suggested plaguebearers and froge
minor lance
Interrogator, "My Lord, of the rejects taskforce, the best team has just been va...
You will get important, sorry to break that one to ya.
worn fern
well the only daemons we have actually fought are the daemonengines
scenic bolt
but like whos gonna be the rasknitt
minor lance
The inquisition is... Insane and callous, but honestly quite pragmatic
scenic bolt
gregg the chaos cultist?
minor lance
They actively avoid throwing resources away
Which is quite strange for the Imperium, really
obsidian wing
the explanation it seems that some kind of material in atoma prime is unique and makes weapons and vehicles made there more durable and sturdy
dusk patrol
Its a lynchpin world
obsidian wing
so losing atoma and its nearby planets is a big no
copper cliff
Atoma Prime has unobtanium!
dusk patrol
They talk about it in one of the blogs.
obsidian wing
maybe its the darktide is some chaos mineral
dusk patrol
Its a world which basically controls the sector and is what makes it valuable.
obsidian wing
40k version of warpstone lmao
dusk patrol
If it falls, the sector probably falls with it.
obsidian wing
im just joking darktide seems more of a daemon threat
dusk patrol
Probably some kind of Nurgle group or army.
Its not really clear how the Moebian 6th got corrupted and came back I don't believe, although I assume the main game will expand on this stuff.
obsidian wing
well if iirc in the articles the darktide seems to be a chaos and xenos threat
dusk patrol
Those can be one and the same.
obsidian wing
darktide probably is a plague
dusk patrol
I think its just a term for whatever they fight on the fringes.
It's probably a lot of stuff.
obsidian wing
i mean you cant corrupt a loyal and decorated imperial regiment like that
dusk patrol
Might not even be one faction.
obsidian wing
unless you forced them into submission
fierce pendant
No, darktide is the relative "term" used by the Imperium or more exactly, the people running tertium and Atoma Prime to tell the Moebian regiment what they're fighting in the fringe wars.
It's generalization of all threats Imperium and Moebians face.
dusk patrol
Yeah
How the Moebian 6th got corrupted isn't clear but the article makes it out that sometimes you take stuff back with you.
Chaos corrupts by its presence, even the best.
obsidian wing
ok so yeah probably to avoid saying their moebian regiments are fighting daemons
or chaos
fierce pendant
How the Moebian 6th got corrupted isn't clear but the article makes it out that ...
It was hinted at that mix between no real reward for their sacrifices from people back home. Cause all of the info is censored/hidden from public
But that was just a symptom what was the cause is prolly the game's big bad
some cult leader etc.
dusk patrol
I'm sure its part of the plot of the game.
obsidian wing
i mean imperium is very strict about daemons they should not be known by the general populace and risk curiosity and corruption
fierce pendant
Yeah or future updates, given they said plot will evolve in a live service form
dusk patrol
Can't be since they're so common, same with Grey Knights
Or more common I should say
obsidian wing
yeah i guess but back then gk will kill innocents to preserve that secret
dusk patrol
Depended, they would generally be killing people who saw too much.
Most guardsmen who saw them didn't even know what they were so it didn't matter.
dusk patrol
But a threat which the GK were being called in for was almost certainly potentially corrupting.
minor lance
Geeeenerally they don't kill people for just knowing about chaos / daemons anymore
dusk patrol
Its all dependium.
fierce pendant
Thankfully they stopped bathing in Blood of SoB's as well 
plush ridge
Most guardsmen who saw them didn't even know what they were so it didn't matter.
What is this weird, purple, 6 penised Xeno rushing at me!? Ah well... Lasguns firing
dusk patrol
That story got changed to being a bit more sensical.
minor lance
Thankfully they stopped bathing in Blood of SoB's as well <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718...
I am so glad people didn't stand for this mad disrespect
obsidian wing
yep i mean ive played daemonhunters and if that's how atoma would be later i rather exterminatus than go in lmao if im inquisitor
minor lance
Bathe in the electrogoo of Immortals instead
It's completely safe and warp-free
I promise.
Naturally sourced.
dusk patrol
The line in Battlefleet Gothic is pretty accurate for a world being overtaken by daemons.
"Some will question my right to end the lives of a billion souls. But for those who truly understand, they know I have no right to let them live."
Almost anything is better than letting a world become a daemon world.
copper cliff
Yeah if it becomes a daemon world they'll have weird orgies... Not great for property value in the moebian domain.
obsidian wing
there wont be any since slaanesh aint invited
copper cliff
wtf do you call nurgle if not a weird orgy with bacteria
dusk patrol
Body will decay but you won't die.
obsidian wing
and nurgle is a big nerd so no smex for his followers and daemons they just chill and spread his blessings
copper cliff
SPREAD
obsidian wing
they are in marketing basically
plush ridge
Platonic SPREAD
copper cliff
I'd be more keen to serve nurgle if plaguebearers didn't look so goofy
dusk patrol
Eh, not really platonic
People meme it up but Nurgle is not a benevolent force.
He's more like an abusive partner.
His only reward is you become so apathetic to your condition and life that it doesn't hurt anymore.
copper cliff
Pretty cool
dusk patrol
He just strips you of what you were until you don't exist basically.
You're just a living zombie.
obsidian wing
yeah poxwalkers became the undead
minor lance
Nurgle believes he is loving. And he is! Just in a very, very toxic, abusive, and unpleasant manner.
copper cliff
He wants to bring everyone into the cycle™️
dusk patrol
He's "loving" if you do exactly what he wants
obsidian wing
yeah but ofc the other chaos gods wont like it
minor lance
The biggest issue with Nurgle is he loves baasically all living things equally.
obsidian wing
especially tzeentch and slaanesh
dusk patrol
All the masses of the Atoma Prime populace become really depressing when you think about it.
minor lance
That is to say, a single bacterium on your skin is worth uhh... You. All of you.
copper cliff
Chaos warriors of nurgle look the coolest
minor lance
To Nurgle you are the same.
dusk patrol
In VT at least the rotbloods sorta chose their lot in life.
obsidian wing
well the upper hives seems unaffected due to the efforts of the rejects
scenic bolt
nurgle doesnt necessarily love you as an individual, more that he loves the diseases you're hosting
copper cliff
Well most followers of nurgle seem to have an attitude that if you just become like them you'll be happy too. Its more like a cult, a chaos cult if you will.
minor lance
nurgle doesnt necessarily love you as an individual, more that he loves the dise...
He does love you as an individual!
He just loves every single bacterium on your skin just as much.
And the parasites inside of you.
And the maggots writhing just below your epidermis.
And the flies crawling through your flesh
copper cliff
Nurgle seems to be the only one of the chaos gods who shows genuine pride towards his creations where as everyone else just treats them as cannon fodder for their conflicts. Tzeentch sent Kairos into a fucking TIME AND SPACE DEATH VORTEX hoping "something" would happen.
obsidian wing
yeah as long as youre healthy nurgle dont love you
minor lance
And as far as Nurgle is concerned, if you have all of that... You should be happy too!
celest dome
It was Scientific endeavour !!
copper cliff
Nurgle tries to force his idea of happiness onto you. Which is an endless cycle of life and decay
dusk patrol
Nurgle definitely uses his followers for cannon fodder too.
obsidian wing
slaanesh also is a caring god/goddess if you think about it but whelp their version of care is twisted and vile
copper cliff
Slaanesh is just horny
dusk patrol
Because you're apathetic to everything.
copper cliff
They treat their followers like a one night stand
except that one night is ETERNITY
minor lance
@dusk patrol There's a lot of ways that Nurgle presents. Apathy is one.
Nihilism is another
But genuine joy is also one!
obsidian wing
nope they are hedonists lmao im sure they rather party and do orgies than fight
just like sigvald in wfb
dusk patrol
How we tend to see in the books delusion and apathy are often one and the same with the joy.
copper cliff
Slaanesh fighting is just khorne but with tiddies
dusk patrol
They're joyous because they don't really care.
minor lance
That's entirely fair, and I'll agree.
dusk patrol
Nothing matters
copper cliff
They want everyone else to be content
dusk patrol
It sounds nice until you realize its horrific.
minor lance
It's like saying "Fuck it I don't care I'm ok festering here"
Yeah, 100%. It's horific
Complacency is not pleasant.
copper cliff
I loved the part where Festus was like "Its festerin time" and totally leeched all over the empire of man
dusk patrol
Its literally laying in your own filth and being ok with it because why bother?
minor lance
Yyyyyyyup
dusk patrol
And if you resist, the pain only increases and you're only more horrified when you become a monster.
Until you give in
copper cliff
Some of the pox walkers scream for help in DT
minor lance
Oh, yeah, no, anyone who fights Nurgle';s gifts needs to be...
'Persuaded' that they're good things
Pain only happens until you accept it.
Acceptance is part of Nurgle's shtick
copper cliff
Serving slaanesh is only fun if you're like in the upper ranks of it. If you're at the bottom its just pain
minor lance
You are helpless to stop the cycle. It is inevitable. So enjoy it!
obsidian wing
well most poxwalkers in-game are victims of that plague train
copper cliff
Now I want fan art of nurgle in a little conductor's outfit saying the plague train never stops
Serving tzeentch seems like the biggest idk what's going on I guess I'll go steal a book or something
obsidian wing
i mean if we go into the lore we need plaguebearers as well leading the poxwalker hordes
its like alpha legion but you get magic and turn into a space bird or some colorful weird creature
copper cliff
Also tbh I think nurgle is horrific to people who aren't born into it. Like for nurglings I'm sure its a fucking romp kinda like Orks. You just get to spread love for grandpa.
Like Ku'gath is genuinely happy and not a twisted form of his true self like Mortarian.
minor lance
Also tbh I think nurgle is horrific to people who aren't born into it. Like for ...
You can be happy and not born into it for Nurgle
The thing is that Nurgle isn't good because you can be happy with him. It's still bad.
copper cliff
But as we know when you lose the connection to nurgle you break emotionally
dusk patrol
And the "happiness" is the same delusion that all chaos followers have.
copper cliff
When you're forced to look at yourself through your genuine eyes you're horrified
minor lance
There's a thought experiment called the pleasure box. While it is terribly named, it's pretty fitting here.
celest dome
The Plaguebearer are described as Dour, with the unique Sloppity Bilepiper who get infected with an additional plague that turn them into it. The Nurgling and the GUO like those, but the Plague beaere don't really
minor lance
If you could hook yourself up to a machien that just pumps you full of dopamine forever, you will be happy.
But that's not fulfilling.
dusk patrol
Yeah Plaguebearers have a shit existence.
They just count stuff, and get harassed by Nurglings the whole time.
minor lance
Nurgle offers and empty, hollow happiness. You're content and complacent, but never fulfilled.
copper cliff
yeah which is why whenever in a story the plague marines lose connection to nurgle's gift and have to look at themselves truthfully they have an emotional breakdown
minor lance
yeah which is why whenever in a story the plague marines lose connection to nurg...
Also yes, Nurgle is also toxic relationships. He is not a good grandad.
copper cliff
He believes everyone should be hooked up to a pleasure box
obsidian wing
nurgle be like drink this musty plague soup or i dont love you
copper cliff
But I think if you're born a nurgling you're pretty tight with it genuinely
obsidian wing
nurglings only seems fun maybe a manifestation of a baby nurgle having the time of his life
dusk patrol
Don't worry, this pus and excrement stew is an acquired taste.
obsidian wing
the more you eat the more you get sick but dont worry youll get numb and wont taste it later on
forever
copper cliff
Imagine your legion falls to chaos and you choose the pus soup one
dusk patrol
Well they didn't have much of a choice.
copper cliff
"So Daniel have we drafted our intentions for falling to chaos?"
"Yes lord. We will be dining with Nurgle this evening."
"What?!"
dusk patrol
It was "be tortured for eternity or join me"
And Mortarion was willing to bear it himself, but he couldn't bear his sons being in that agony forever.
He literally tried mercy killing them but it didn't work.
obsidian wing
extreme pain or bliss but you wont get healed you only dont feel pain like some form of cosmic leprosy
copper cliff
Yeah and now he thinks about how fucking much his life sucks
obsidian wing
nah very few regret nurgle's blessings
minor lance
Mortarian does, iirc
copper cliff
Mortarian openly states his regret
dusk patrol
He still hates him
obsidian wing
for example mortarion and eugene temba
minor lance
He's part of the Nihilism aspect of Nurgle
obsidian wing
while some did enjoy it like typhus
celest dome
Most of the Death Guard do, only the follower of Typhus enjoy it, that's why there is a schism in it
obsidian wing
mortarion hated it because he was forced into it
dusk patrol
Yeah the majority of the DG still love and follow Morty
obsidian wing
eugene temba also is full of regret that he corrupted horus before his death
dusk patrol
Typhus exists because Nurgle protects him, if he didn't they'd have killed him a long long time ago.
copper cliff
How you gonna be named after Typhoid fever and not become evil
celest dome
Erebus is the first Heretic
obsidian wing
his name is typhon actually
copper cliff
obsidian wing
he changed it to typhus the traveller when he became a daemon prince
copper cliff
Typhon and typhoid are MORE similar
obsidian wing
kinda but typhon is some mythical serpent in greek myths
and its actually calas typhon
copper cliff
He was named after an EVIL serpent?! bro
Emperor really needs to understand foreshadowing
copper cliff
Yeah mfer was really like: This sounds like a chill dude
copper cliff
Ah yes, my loyal Primarch son! Satan Luciferius!
plush ridge
Baccus Stabbus
minor lance
Humans are more like Orks than they realise.
"I named my child Typhon!"
"Wait, why is he now spreading plagues for the god of death?"
celest dome
Does this count as Nominative determinism?
minor lance
Does this count as Nominative determinism?
Das Woh' th' LADZ seyz
obsidian wing
typhon is his surname lmao
minor lance
typhon is his surname lmao
Deeetaaaiiils
obsidian wing
its like his whole family tree is setting him up to be a follower of the plague god
either a cruel and twisted fate but who knows, typhon seems enjoying it
copper cliff
Also what a lazy rename
Went from typhon to typhus
Bro at least call yourself something generic and nurgly like bubonicus spewronicus
obsidian wing
typhus the traveler seems like some travel vlogger but got typhus
copper cliff
Bouta name my lineage McMonster
Who's more efficient, witch hunters or inquisitors?
Relative and per capita of course
celest dome
Witch Hunter, as they have less innocent causalities
ripe ravine
depends on the witch hunter or inquisitor. some are extremely effective sherlock holmes types, while others might get a cultist among all the innocent people they kill
full bane
Inquisitors for the most part. More autonomy and political power lets them deploy large networks of acolytes and agents across an entire sector.
Witch Hunters are more effective within the confines of the Empire given its size and the relative size of their organisation. Inquisitors on the other hand are more effective per individual of rank.
normal grove
I am trying to think of what kinda demons would be good for this game. Maybe a Tallyman?
Nurglings are just too silly and cute for this spooky game, sadly.
full bane
Inquisitors also have a wider job scope I'd say, they root out Heresy of any and all kinds, while Witch Hunters are primarily focused on Witchcraft and Chaos Cults.
copper cliff
They seem to deal with heresy of all kinds often enough though
celest dome
Horde: Nurgling
Elite: Plaguebearer
Special: Frog, Bilepiper
Monster Great/Elder Frog and Beast of Nurgle
celest dome
Inquisitors also have a wider job scope I'd say, they root out Heresy of any and...
And Vampires
And general corruption
full bane
Pretty sure Vampire Hunters are a separate organisation.
copper cliff
I think priests and witch hunters often intersect
full bane
One not necessarily sanctioned by the Empire.
celest dome
Vamp Hunter are either Cultist of Morr or Witch Hunter who found a Vampire
full bane
Eh, there's an intersection. Vampiric servants tend to practice necromancy, which gets you on the Witch Hunter shit list, but as an organization of state-sponsored templars, most Witch Hunters don't go tramping off to the Sylvania border to hunt the undead.
On the other hand, the Vampire Hunters are a less organised group of determined individuals who actively seek out and destroy undead and who sometimes include Witch Hunters amongst their number, but who aren't acting within their job scope.
It's more a personal choice than something required by the job I feel.
Though my lore knowledge is primarily from WFRP so later editions of the wargame might have changed the status quo
(If I recall correctly, the Vampire Hunter lodges along the Sylvanian border get harassed by Witch Hunters often because research into the undead is a prohibited topic and considered a sign of interest into Necromancy, and the people who make up Vampire Hunters are very interested in learning about their foes)
plush mason
the templars are very similar to the inquisition of 40k but slightly more structured
so each witch hunter is more of less free to do what ever the fuck he wants
storm jungle
Yeah with them its more fair since morbidly enough the worst they can do is burn villages lmao
Otherwise its the usual medieval inquisition business
full bane
Though when you compare their relative population sizes, burning Empire villages and burning Imperial worlds comes out about the same.
storm jungle
Kinda
chrome dragon
Not everyone in the village dies tho
Its more like they are driven out
Then you get the axe crazy hunters (literally)
fierce pendant
That's just overly eager Taal's worshippers
minor lance
That's just overly eager Taal's worshippers <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Lemme just check here on my Idiot's Guide to Taal
Let's seeeee....
- Fight.
- Kill.
- Death.
Huh.
fierce pendant
minor lance
c:
fierce pendant
When a barely dressed hunter with a spear is more efficient at killing beastmen than Ulrican fanatics 
minor lance
I mean, isn't that kinda WHF?
The less clothes you wear, the more fearless and powerful you become?
fierce pendant
Technically. Technically applies to Wh40k's zealots too
Then again
Woad Warriors 
minor lance
Slayers, too.
fierce pendant
I mean slayers at least have pants. (At least some)
celest dome
For Taal !!
minor lance
Hell, daemons are technically all pretty much naked.
celest dome
Would be a great Premium Cosmetic for Hunter
minor lance
I mean slayers at least have pants. (At least some)
I love that, canonically, a number of slayers actually run around completely naked.
fierce pendant
minor lance
Like, imagine that being your last moments in life.
A short, angry barrel of muscle and rage charging at you in his birthday suit with his mind set only on death. Yours. His. Both.
fierce pendant
Need me some doomseekers in warhammer fantasy media
Just a crumb either for bardin in vt2 or a new unit in wh3
Where's my short walking meat grinder
celest dome
Aye, most likely to appear in Total War, Valaya know they need new units
And for VT2, well it's one of the last truly unique weapon that remain. And while logic would put it exclusively on Slayers, as they are the only one mad enough to use them. I think the Outcast Engineer and the Ranger could too. As they aren't close to Dwarf culture, living on the margins, like the Slayers
jovial wave
how do i enter the beta test
fierce pendant
This beta test is over you can't
celest dome
Too late and wrong channel
jovial wave
oof
nocturne jetty
Darktide will get Posing?
minor lance
VT2 Axe-Thrower please.
celest dome
Limited, at least in the Beta, maybe we will unlock more after some time
celest dome
VT2 Axe-Thrower please.
Chain Axe Thrower go brrr
minor lance
Chain Axe Thrower go brrr
That was made by the slayer engineer whose name i always forget, right?
God, he had the best inventions
celest dome
Oh you mean the Goblin hewer from Malakai (Failure of an Engineer, Failure of a Slayer)