#40k-lore-chat
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She's not a psyker weirdly but regardless, they're SoB
My point is, you can have what you want
one is, yes
she's a saint
shes also with a harlequin.
look
Celestine is a “human” the same way Yarrick is a “human”
who literally is unkillable
That just straight up hurt lol
yes.
YEET
Iron Warriors carried the HH.
With a funny emotional support helmet on her noggin as alternative
I guess my other thing is, the worth of a faction is not and should not be dictated by the very narrow level of "if they can win sword fights 1v1"
No seriously the helmet on that mini
She looks like she gonna beat u for saying hello lol
ngl im sad the ogryn cant just yeet the human sized foes like that
This and other Horus Heresy Joke you can tell your Chapter Master
Because if that was the case, then just make all your dudes Ogryns
Because Ogryns tear marines apart in close combat super often.
And there are female Ogryns
its a long story but im going to therapy over an inferiority complex.
I just wouldn't get hung up on this stuff, or just kitbash out of lore allowances
the point is that gw dances around the simple solution to keep a fan base happy
so, my points are kind of sided towards that.
Lol
Due to my own personal experiences.
im warning this now because i can get a bit.. bad with this stuff.
no matter the lore, the stats or anything in universe
The plasma pistol should turn us to paste
So i just gotta ask why is the 30k SM armor 100x cooler than the 40-41k armor?
Knight helmet
because GW write the lore and make the rules
Because you like the knight helmet
Codex Astartes CQC manual.
Section 3B - Ogryns
"No."
also more industrial-punk backpack
Newer Sculpts
ye I like Dilara
very cool bub
Dilara one of the most based person on this discord
alternatively: "Apply liberal bolter fire. FROM A DISTANCE"
dont jinx it 💀
better than half the fan base
When you hit an ogryn in the head but it’s just his brain
Is cool. Da boyz like
I know that
inquisitors are cool when they aren't just "kill"
i like them all
Hmmmm. Exterminatus
Primarily because i can actually play a woman in power armor that isnt weak to marine-plot.
Yes
I tend to make up my own characters for this stuff.
We have names for the goons?
Grendyl is the inquisitor in charge of things and events happening on Atoma Prime Tetrium etc.
We don’t have canon names for the characters since they’re custom
As in in charge of cleaning up the mess.
inquisitors and rogue traders are good
But I’ve heard them mention a Pilot and Hadron and Zola and Grendyl
I only know Metalface, Flygirl, and Sah
lol
Hadron, Zola, Morrow are like handlers for missions, all working for Grendyl
Yeah
the sergeant is from the steel legion
Witch one is Zola?
Misozi is the new Olesya from Vermintide, a pilot of the Valkyrie our characters use to get to missions
Yeah
Don't remember her
She's a bit like Loose cannon personality, just more serious, a nihilistc guardswoman, ex-hive ganger
Or well all of the above mixed together ^
We don't know fully
Also is an Inquisitor in training if we are going by RPG lore
Explicator - The first step of an Inquisitor in training, they learn how to extract information using torture under the direction of their mentor Inquisitor.
Zola seems a guardswoman, the only witch we have heard of is Inquisitor Grendyl since all Inquisitors are psykers
Yeah that would make sense
Hey Brogryn, whats your Ogryns name?
Favorite Ad Mech Lady line: "Special bullets are in short supply. No special bullets, no making spikey people go boom. Understand?”
Not all inquisitors are psykers unless that was a joke
A lot of them are
Deddog
But not all
Mechanicus is goals.
Nice
I just named my Ogryn Krab
Based tbh
Nork is da best though
Not all but most of them are psykers I mean like 90-95%
Is anyone here Brug or Krug?
Not really tbh
Or Klug
if i knew about the closed beta i woulda applied.
Its not super common
^^^
Apply for a chance for future betas 👍
A fair amount are but its not common yeah
Also Hadron being an asshole is great
Tbh
She sounds like she’s done with everything
Also, psykers are neat aswell
Lmao Hadron had a quote where she was sharing how much time she was working for the Inquisitor
Yeah just joking lmao
She is an Admech
Famously done with BS
i cant tell if this is a battle scare or a surgical one
Her saying that she can only assume we randomly pressed buttons until it worked is funny
I think I've heard the name Rannik being mentioned as well.
Surgical mabey? Some of the Ogryns seem almost smart
If steals ammo - Surgical scar
If helps team - Battle scar
You can't cure braindead teammates
We'z all Bone'eads
True
the Ogryn is smarter and also shorter than typical ogryns in the lore
^^^
nah but we are all alpha grade ogryn so maybe those are the smarter ones
so, ive been thinking
Ye, but that was kinda done to like yknow, have compelling characters. If they made em actually dumb like a box of rocks it wouldn't be as appealing to play em
I feel like having a 9-12 foot ogyrn would be hard to fit in the hive
if they make a fifth class for the game in the future, it should be Assassin.
Accurate size would be the plague ogryn’s that’s how tall ogryns should be
there's a voice line about that
An actual assassin would be a bit above the curve lol
For our power level
In game
A lesser one
Ah
what are they called.
Assassin as in some hive assassin
Yeah.
My 3 favorite Oygrns I've met
Fugg
Brug
Klug
Not the officio assassinorum but the private army and hireable type of assassins could work
Gotta ask is this accurate
I’d say any of the offico assasinorum assassins would do great
lol mine is named Brug but it was likely a different player you meet
I've met two
I’ve met an ogryn called Spesh Muhrine
An Eversor's entire job is "kill as many things as possible"
Lol you drop a damn Eversor in tertium no more Moebian sixth
One killed like 50 marines by himself.
Lol
Were you in a game with Fugg?
No more local population either lol
yeah.
No Amberly Vail, not based.
He can massacre millions
no
My Psyker is called Cactus
I played with 2 Ogryn who were called Tree and Grass. Was fun
supposebly there was an eversor able to kill a marine.
I was in a game with 3 ogryns
primarch*
The only one who have killed a Primarch (While not being Primarch themselves) was a Cadicus Assassin (Polymorpher and such)
And its not even confirmed, cause 40k
eversor best assassin
But that’s more so since curze is a fucking weirdo
I THINK he's dead
I feel like they could make him come back
Curze is dead if he ain’t he would’ve been a daemon prince wether he likes it or not
I mean yeah but why would they
Cause money
His end goal was to die
Night lords are kinda popular
Also, I was about to say. Eversor being able to kill 1 marine? Good job on the marines, holy shit, they are power houses for only losing 1
Like my boy Dorn
Curze is dead. But he did have the Nemesis Crown (Not sure of the name, but highly psyker item), so there might be something with it
But he dead and won't come back, would defeat a lot of his Legions' history/motif
Eversors can kill lots of space marines, like for example in the Beast Arises novels
So not Azaghs nemesis crown
Didn't an Eversor kill a SM Chapter Master while trying to get someone else
Probably.
Crown of Nagash is different from Fantasy Nemesis Crown
One in that HH book have been able to kill multiple Sons of Horus traitor marines before dying
Eversors are assassins in in the same way an ICBM is an assassin
That was a Calidus, not an Eversor though.
I am aware
I think there was a renegade High Lord who had 100 Evisors, and 299 spesh murines died killing em
Eversors is like DOOM Slayer and Rambo but high on steroids and combat enhancing drugs like Bane
Curze's Crown is the Corona Nox (Nigh Crown)
Wuzzit do
um akshully it would be crown of night
It does nothing iirc
It’s just a fancy crown
It’s power as a symbol is what is valuable
Drakan Vandorich. Master of Assassins.
There’s also a soul stone on it
He didn't so much have a hundred Eversors as he did command the entire four (five?) Temples.
Crown with Bloodstones on it
And allow trans recruits!
His Crown probably was made of human bones
probably
Eversor Assassin DLC when?
Well fitting with the night lords theme that they are basically Yautja-like space emos
nah.
I love predators
dont compare them to night lords
the fuckers.
Difficulty negative 1
Callidus assassin is the one who killed Curze
-5*
Lol
M’Shen is her name
The real challenge is keeping your allies alive when there's nothing else to kill.
Lmfao
AdMech tho, the ability to reshape your physical form to whatever suits your needs... As long as you're okay with it being like 80% metal.
And the Night Lords hunted her down and killed her

non-binary
The fun thing is eversors are like
i personally wanna be woman
Killkillkillkill
Well most of the callidus assasins are female
I mean, being there is very much uhh...
The gene altering drugs and enhancements only suited for females
The moments of eversor lucidity are mostly "HOW do I kill?"
There’s also where is my thing for killing
Eversors are mostly or are all male iirc
I am
Psyker!
The only difference between Khornate corruption and an Eversor assassin is that eversor assassins cannot comprehend Khorne as a concept.
They are so druggd upo and kill hungry
Gonna be a hard time at the airport
Even Khorne cannot touch them
I hope Darktide isn't only about Nurgloth
Which, to be fair, is 'based'
There are Techpriests who choose to present as one gender or another, or neither.
Or a brain in a jar.
The ultimate freedom lies in being schackled to an ancient and unyielding doctrine about the preservation of technology.
Eversor is 40k doom slayer but on a switch tbh
Not when your ogranisation operate the Aeroport
We'll likely get genestealer cult tbh
Slannesh Cult lolll
Or another Cult of Chaos
Leaving 3 additional Faction to appear
They’re railed on drugs
And they go fast
Hound of slaanesh like all good pit bulls breaks the sound barrier to maul children(non ogryn)
Slaanesh are too few to be a threat and Nurgle’s already dibs on Atoma, Khorne will be alright but won’t offer much enemy variety, Tzeentch too powerful that the Inquisitor might need blanks and likely the Grey Knights as well
So Darktide is Space marine/Inquisiton?
Hmmmm
Fair point
I never saw an Inquisitior psyker
Darktide is some threat or warp phenomenon but I think it’s some corrupting plague
^prolly
Inquisitor Martyr has them
I think this is much less likely. Tzeench has too many annoying units (haha beastmen), Khorne is a possibility but probably has too much melee and we'd just be playing VT2 again (but could be fun!), Slaanesh is possible (there is more to Slaanesh than haha sexy) but the speed on the pox puppers are already absurd and I don't wanna deal with even faster units.
Genestealer cult seems to be the best bet. Maybe orks, too. God I would love orks. But less likely
Khorne units will probably get mad if you shoot them so they get stronger and faster
Based on the articles the Moebian Sixth fought the darktide but they become corrupted and secretly converted, so Darktide is some weird warp event by none other than Grandpa Nurgs
Tzaangillion miniatures sold
Next we see 4 Psyker
Also ngl I love how disciplined the Moebian 6th are
in Darktide
Another Chaos Cult is more likely to work alongside the Nurgle one than a GSC
I'd argue the opposite. Different chaos cults kind of hate each other.
Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Coteaz to name a few.
All Inquisitors who are psykers.
A fair few also have Psykers as part of their retinue.
Also, to be fair ,there are ranged focused Khornate cults. Bloodguard or something?
Woah
Moebian Seventh would’ve been a better name since seven is sacred to Nurgle, six is for Slaanesh (smex)
Never
And ELDAR!
But to clarify, they are isolated to a system very far away
Chaos Undivided/Undecided is a major force of chaos, and usually house all four distinct cult in it's force (+ some minor forces added to that)
No space marines in the game the devs said
Inqusition hates Space marines?
There’s traitor khornate regiments who use guns
Im sorry Mira but your reputation for
carries unto this server as well
Depends
🔫
“Worrior Priest”
The Khornate Guardsmen are the Blood Cult and the Son of Sek or something
Definitely, the AI does great work at showing them operating in fire teams.
Im still waiting for Sienna 4 Carrier
But tbh realistically even 4 psykers fights a death guard or Nurgle warband chaos marine I doubt they can survive
CU is its own thing, though. Devoted cultists tend to not get along with them, just less violently than against other cults.
So are we fighting just one Guardsman regiment
like Nuking evreything and
How many are actually in a Regiment though
Blowing heads
The old version of Undecided was that the Chaos cult worked together to kill the enemy force before turning against each other to pledge the planet to their god
What bothers me with the plague ogryn is that they regenerate in the lore, the devs should implement that in-game
Yes
They’re pretty good in the beta
Bile Troll flashbacks
They also exude some toxic gas as well
No
They do ?
I want Plague ogryn harder
They can instakill specials
Too overtuned
Ngl plague ogryn don’t feel scary enough
Maulers feel way too scary lol
Everyone will just pick Psyker so they will explode their heads
Yes
Everything in Darktide has more hp
I love seeing maulers. It means it's time to go to work with my force sword.
I would prefer squishier enemies and players
I hate seeing them in crowds though.
Maulers are fun to instakill with a thunder hammer
You can tank both the plague ogryns’ and that heretic boss mofo if your team drop lots of med kits around you lol
I love to chainsword maulers
True
That moment of surprise when they pop out of a horde and slam an axe into your face.
And unload on them
Yes
- head
Armored
All
Wonderful
lolll
Then you try and hit them back and get stuck on a zombie instead.
They feel good to play, but their ability seems... weird. I think Psyker, and I think lots of CC abilities. It seems like their main job is single target snipers instead, which is fine, but as it currently stands we have psykers for big single target damage, ogryns for tanks, zealots do... something (admittedly the only one I haven't played, but their ability seems identical to the ogryn's) and then veterans are best cc in the game
Most of my wipes have been to suprise maulers or snipers
Maulers when they do the Chaos Warrior overheads
The worst thing I’ve seen is 2 maulers and a bulwark in a choke
Wait
Mailers are more op than the ogryns tbh ingame they need a nerf
That was pretty funny
I heard that they don't have as much armour reduction on their legs but haven't tried it out myself.
Are the melee Ogryns the Chaos Warriors then
Yeah
@chrome dragon Omggg Will Darktide get Coruscation too
The ones with the two handeds
lol
Maulers
I hate them lol
They’re stronger then VT maulers
Fighting a Mauler will give you an idea how It’s like to battle a slow traitor space marine
They hurt more
Yes
VT2 mauler feel much less scary
^
They are
Yes
Like they’re way stronger
1 Shot Mauler
Everything is easier to kill in Vermintide
lol
so-
Also 200 toughness damage is very funny
Also Darktide has no Leech?
arent living saints basically daemon princes on golden hue?
No
Yet
Dang
And it’s funny they’re more op than the chaos warriors in vm2
Kinda, but closer to Daemon Prince
chaos warriors are easy
But maybe that’s bcs we don’t have a full arsenal yet
did i mention i play kerillian?
Lol
specifically shade?
Nah they're fine, it's just that they sneak up in hordes
Carapace ?
I think it's like, bastardized welding gear
Gotta be made of adamantium
Though stat wise, Flak and Plate armour is the same
How tough those mofos are
aye that's who i was referring to
Love how lasguns dont go thru Mauler armor but smgs do
But they're like.. We only know of 1. But it's a precedent. Well, 2, technically. But the second is an offshoot of the first
Maulers have carapace
Blood Pact and Son of Sek
Maulers can even tank a bolt round I bet with how tough they are lmao
Eh not entirely. When subject to a warp suppression that caused all daemons in an area to be banished, Celestine was reduced to a mortal woman rather than discorporated.
There's some shenanigans going on on the Emps part.
Hoping we see daemons in the game
Prolly a plaguebearer
Or a Chaos Spawn.
Also technically it’s a daemon in the foundry mission lol
Would you consider them Blessed (Kinda like the Death Guard who lost their gift but not their maladies) or a Daemon Prince ?
Straight from Vermintide 2, no changes at all.
Got tired of cultists and stuff I mean we need some new and fresh enemies
Chaos spawn will be nice
I've been 1 shotting them with a power hammer on 3/5 and 2 shooting on 4/5 (i assume it'lkl be a 1 shot when my power level is up)
well, it's a daemon engine--not sure that's the same thing
I'd say Daemon Prince myself, fits with the whole uplifted mortal thing that all Living Saints have going for them.
Though it still doesn't match exactly
Well it is but I mean traditional Nurgle daemons
You know like plaguebearers , even some nurglings will be nice
Ye
I mean there are poxwalkers so we need their “overseers”
Small swarms of nurglings would be nice.
Maybe a Beast of Nurgle as a boss?
Beast of Nurgle and Great Unclean one ?
Yeah lesser daemons is more lore-friendly and believable
GUO is Grey Knight-level threat lmao
Yeah
A Great Unclean One would mean that the Hive is gone.
Or the Inquisitor say nope and exterminatus so yeah GUO is a no-no
Like I could see one being a level fixture, destroying spires and buildings in the background after shit has hit the fan.
I think in story of the game we're too small scale to actually attract anything super intense. As the characters state: "As bad as it is here, its probably worse elsewhere." That elsewhere being where the Inquisition is likely deploying its actual assets. Where as we are the suicide squad™️
Yeah I mean it’s stationary and not really threatening at all we need daemons that fight back and look like daemons
Lore wise makes sense but don’t make sense too that 4 prisoners can beat a horde and whole platoon of traitor Imperial guard
In a single mission btw
You don’t read that kind of fiction in the same universe of the main fiction though
I could see like a "Doom of Hive whatever" set of missions where you get sent to a hive on either a different planet or on the other side of the current one, and there's a GOU rumbling around the level.
Instead of a lift as a transition, the GOU breaks something in the background that drops a piece of rubble you can cross, while nurglings, poxwalkers, and the occasional plaguebearer elite roll out from its folds and pustules.
VM series makes sense given the u5 are not typical mortals
I'm more on Fantasy, where a GUO wouldn't be that weird for the U5 to defeat
But they didn’t appear in the game still
Yeah I guess and GW likes to retcon stuff anyway
And makes stuff that kinda don’t make sense
Its hard to be like DA LORE for a franchise that writes lore around selling tiny plastic figurines
A psyker can kill a lesser daemon
Even a normal human can given the right situation
Apply enough las
In honestly, I don't think so. A daemon prince, yes. But a daemon? By late game? Not at all.
Keep in mind we are 'heroic units' by that point
i see
Lesser Daemon are fair game
Power scaling is fake and good writers don't write stories around arbitrary stat sheets and metrics
what psyker classification is the psyker in game?
Greater are much more iffy and less likely
Lesser daemons are nurglings, plague flies, nurglings etc they are quite easy to kill problem is they are toxic
Sanctioned psyker
Im gonna assume Delta, then.
We don't really know.most likely less than Delta
Keep in mind we killed a Plague Ogryn
Plague Ogryns are fucking dangerous.
And Plague Bearer
true, but the setting comes from a game built around those stats, so it's kinda built in imo
Like, in lore, they are extreeeemely dangerous
Rot fly enemies when
Yeah plaguebearers are supposed to lead poxwalkers in the lore btw
So they can appear as elites ingame
Bilepiper would be a fun Lord to face
But even the setting doesn't really take those stats that much into account since tyranids and orks seem to constantly be both the biggest threats to the universe and also constantly losing
Maybe they show up in highest difficulty and makes the poxwalkers tougher to kill
So priority is taking them out
fair as well
While we will (and I am very glad about this) never have SPESS MUHREENZ in this game... By late game a reject squad 100% could kill a Deathguard without too much hassle. The pinnacle of humans are still terrifying when well equipped.
I'd say it would be a hassle for sure but like
*Iron warrior
just saw it
Apply quadruple plasma gun
That can be explained because both are the most numerous and are on the upswing
If meltagun is in the game we can kill a space marine even with terminator armor
Damn, even the Iron dismiss the hands
Then again with the Fist it make sense
doubtful
People have a weird boner for how unsurmountable space marines are as if them dying isn't a constant thing that happens all the time
Honestly, not a massive hassle, honestly. Like, remember, by late game we have killed thousands of enemies of varying dangerous that would give space marines trouble at that point. We are hero units by that stage.
also reminder
Deathguard are slow unless it’s the deathshroud
They're also notoriously tough because of the whole painless abominations thing
True true
Tough and they regenerate
The strength of Death Guard is super inconsistent
And also resurrects depends on Grandpa’s blessing
Some books have them as unkillable, immortal abominations
It all depends on the death guard in question
Others they are just extra durable SMs
but my main point would be not that its impossible for the player characters to take down this that and the other but that it would be unlikely they'd send them to deal with it in the first place. Remember, we are chaff for the slaughter.
i do bet we will kill/fight a dark mechanicum agent though.
Size wise, a Thermi would be good, they have nice weapon kit to boot
as is Nurgle's strength. Diseases come and go
also, one word- Melta.
Idk if we'll get a melta but we'll have to see
All Chaos SM are weaker than Loyalist, but can be better due to the gift, but those can easily be lost if they displease their masters
You have Typhus whose a one man army causally tearing apart ships, and some marine whose a bit sick and can take an extra round or two
Melta are somewhat confirmed
he's got a bit of a cough
They were confirmed for Vet I believe
Look at Pin in #theorycrafting
neat
We're chaff until late game. Some lines indicate that.
I'm guessing part of the story is us rising through the ranks.
now im just imagining a perfectly normal looking death guard that just randomly does a little cough
that would be interesting. How does the inquisition deal with penal squads that turn out to be extremely useful?
and, question
If the mauler can tank meltashots then I guess he’s the most toughest traitor guard ever lmao
Turn them into their personal guard
retinue
Step 1: Commit Crime
Step 2: Murder heretics
Step 3: Profit
Induct them into their retinue potentially
i will say though, is this game canon to 40k?
Acolytes
like, this is always the question
Seems so
Or the rough idea is
Isn't it written by a popularwriter?
for example- space marine isnt.
I mean if Inquisitor Grendyl is a rogue one we might even get xenos and daemon operatives theoretically
Dan Abnett
nah
more likely
I just want a gene stealer cult
hes a radical.
I wanna shoot bugs
which is basically what you said but legal.
Radical, not Rogue, other wise we are all traitor
rock and stone
Yeah radical
ROCK AND STONE
They actually get taken out of the penal squad... Sorta. There's elite penal squads in lore that are... Technically penal but not anymore. They're basically a... Semi-slave to the inquisitor that presides over them
i love the character creation
Well Eisenhorn is a rogue one now ain’t he?
Yes
im 99% certain hes a radical inquisitor.
I'm surprised there's not as many suicide squad memes about this game
inquisition is my expertise.
Yes.
We have no inclination that he is either way
He became a radical, then went rogue
And is now a heretical agent
He’s gone off the deep end by quite a bit
We are not forced though we are willing
Well... willing. If you mean the PCs in the game?
Yes based on their dialogue
I mean I don’t think our characters were given much of a choice
We definitely are. The inquisition is one of the most practical agencies in the Imperium... Ussuuuaalllyyy.
From dialogue it seems like most of the group is either crazy or loyalist to the imperium
But it’s probably better than being stuck on some prison ship
you said the same thing twice.

I do like the part where the vet is like: wouldn't it be cool to see terra
And the psyker is like: I don't wanna be a battery for your dumb god!
So if a few individuals from a penal regiment end up doing some reeeaally fancy work in the name of Big E, they won't just waste them
Chad Psyker
Well they are given a 2nd chance and are grateful
Well lucky for the Psyker they aren’t powerful enough to be one
Defo loyalist
And also they’d probably end up as an astropath or something
It's more... It's that or... Working in the manufactorums until you die of overworking.
nah
you need a specific gene
to be an astropath
I mean psykers are basically just fellas born with an inseparable desire to BOOGY all over the brain matter of lesser lifeforms
Not really
Depends on the Psyker, there’s varying disciplines
Astropath are from specific families iirc
Yeah but rather that than fighting Nurgle cults and smelling a plague ogryn
Plague ogryn vs space marine
They’re like Psyker communicators
Space marines for ranged weapons
I wonder if we'll get the puny hoomie bolters
Part of me still wants a black orc big boss hero for vermintide
Even plague ogryns are not smart to spit and that would’ve been a very dangerous projectile
That's why it's a 'choice'.
Well, sorta. It's not always a choice. It gets a bit weird overall. Most people would take the chance at probably death over actualy, guaranteed death, th ough. Since penal soldiers can 'earn' their freedom.
More likely be the villain tbh
Penal legions are like uhh... That one French legion of convicts
I'm hoping we see a Plague Ogryn based on a Bullgryn Grenadier
Kinda like the Rat Ogre and the Stormfiend but with a Blight Grenade launcher instead
Penal legions typically aren’t much of a choice if they’ve given one at all
I think you could convince an orc to do teamwork if it means more rats to krump
Generally it’s just “let’s use these prisoners for something useful”
Tbh it’s very very unrealistic that they’d let the psykers do what they do in the game but it’s whatever
When they're more clever than brutal
If you listen to the French, it's the Légion Étrangère, as any one who isn't French isn't Free
It’s gameplay
Yeah makes sense they’re expendables anyway
It's a bit weird since our PCs 'enjoy' their work, for the most part. Like, they're happy to serve the Imperium.
And yes @celest dome That's the one I meant.
Yeah bit theyre also brainwashed into the imperium as everyone is
I think they’re just happy to get a chance to do something
Well they aren't convict
both the freebooters and blood axes tribe also work as mercs in 40k
They definitely have some level of freedom too in how they go about their missions
Are you sure? I swear that they were originally a convict legion.
I remember the female tech priest says the characters and manufactorum workers are replaceable And expendable but the leman russes are not
the 2 most famous penal legions are the last chancers and the scrap dogs afaik
Yeah
No, they are just an armed corp that you can join without having to disclose your identity (So former convict can join, but also foreign and run aways)
Yeah one of the missions is in a leman russ factory isn't it?
Ahhh that's where I was mixing it up
Ty
Makes sense though I mean in 40k humans are commodity
Imperial guard are the currency that the imperium wagers with
Space marines are needs
Nerds
Geeks
Troglodites
that mission in the leman russ factory also states that the mobian sector is famed for a special ore that is stronger than normal
Space marines are logistical anomalies and cost more than they should
Call them Ekeet Craw or something.
Space marines are like blackwater, morally rephrensable and unreliable
Marines are for nerds
We might get one since a new model for (Possibly) the Dark Mechanicus is supposed to appear
chads use sororitas.
They’re pretty reliable tbh
With some exceptions but even then
Not really, they can't hold shit consistently
I mean, a progression-obsessed mad scientist who breaks every rule while avoiding all possible repercussions with bribery and politics, morally reprehensible, and clinically insane.
Well when half of them turned traitor
You start to understand why Valdor dislike them
That fits perfectly into the Mechanicus normal
cause numbers
Would be nice if we get a pariah class
Cawl ?
Yeah thats unreliable
Half of everyone turned traitor
I was thinking Cawl, but Cawl isn't quite the same.
Wouldn't call a marine corps of 50 guys a reliable military power
Except for like, the Custodes and small elements
Statistically improbable that half of humanity turned Chaos
He's more like... Insanely evil. I want evilly insane.
Do normal humans have space marines beat on per capita chaos conversions?
You’re bringing real numbers into 40k?
likely not
Primarch have a bigger proportion of Chaos turned
cause there are so few space marines next to normal humans
Half of the military forces turned anyways forces
The traitor legions weren’t gonna take the Imperium with just marines
Hard number sure, but proportionally...
Imagine you're literally Jesus and some fucking dingus with a lasgun in some smoggy hellworld is doing more for God than you.
Cawl fits but I think it’s Bile in the later stages of the Great Crusade
They had a shitton of regiments, fleets, Titan Legios, and worlds turn with them, roughly half
Mars itself fell to Chaos
A lot of them just stayed on the side, as they were trying to be neutral
There wasn’t a neutral option
Tell that to fascist space Empire nobility
Some worlds could try to stay out of it, but the forces themselves all chose sides
And everyone has to choose a side eventually
A lot of planets just shut down comms and stayed like that
They play both sides so they're always coming out on top
Well some got tricked by the Alpha legion to rebel
Until a chaos legion is just like you shoulda picked us harder
There’s some examples but not many, it wasn’t the norm. And often it was viewed as just helping chaos if you didn’t choose a side.
Some planets who remained loyal or even neutral are ravaged by the traitors
At least grandfather nurgle will love me
Those who tried to remain neutral only did so because they lucked out and never got noticed
I don't get chaos undivided. How the fuck do you mix sex, pleasure, and pain with disease, rot, blood, skulls, and BOOKS. wtf
Yeah if they are in the path toward Terra whoever landed there first both sides don’t care they either fortify it or raze it
Chaos undivided is the worst orgy ever
I though the Moebian sixth would be chaos undivided tbh
They got a lot of Nurgle markings on them
If they are then the devs could’ve easily introduced the other chaos gods in the game later
Basically you have people who are all oppressed by the same force, they join up (forming a force called Undivided/Undecided) to survive and get their freedom of belief
easier to make another nurgle enemy when they already had half of them in vermintide 2
Also nurgle has the best designs
That’s not how it works really, it’s just worshiping chaos as more of a thing
Undivided is setting aside your beefs for the greater chaos picture
Yeah
Depend, the Forces of Abadon for example has cult leaders for all four Chaos God
wouldn't that be malice? Chaos as just.. A thing
No
It’s a temporary alliance but when they are united it’s dangerous
this game proves that lasguns aren't anymore powerful than your average battle rifle, and that the reason the imperium uses them is because they are a logistical superweapon
Malice is a minor entity with his own deal
Not really, Malice/Malal was: Chaos should not have any order
Undivided is: Chaos must prevail
I c
so malice is chaos of: SCREAMING INCOHERENTLY
and chaos undivided is: LETS BURN SHIT FOR THE GODS!
Chaos God of Prime Chaos
Malice is the loose part that will make the chaos strategy engine give out
For the Gods or Chaos
As a thing
Chaos god of joker brained
Malice? That reminds me of Mind goblins
It's not really just "I'm so random"
It's more "Chaos mean Chaos, the Chaos Gods are as much against the real Chaos as the Emperor, as they make it more structured"
I just want skaven in 40k
Chances are so low that we might get beastmen instead
Beastmen were (and still) are part of the cannon though
Oh you mean for Darktide ? No idea
Genestealers could work in other planets within the Atoma sector
The joke (and honestly, not even that much of a joke) is that their role is already filled by the Imperium
Or some other chaos gods as well
Skaven are Americans
Let's not do this
I say this as a brit.
Let's not start that.
I prefer if the enemy roster work together, as they can compliment each other rather than having to do it from the start each time
Yeah Ikit Claw nuked Nippon twice
Loyal and unbreakable you cannot find both or either in a skaven
that's why it would be feared
I need to make a warhammer 3 mod
all skaven units unbreakable
all lords loyal
Ska Bloodtail (Or what ever was his name) Littermate of Queek Headtaker (And on a less part Clan Mors Black Furs)
clan mors are freaks
Unironically though I think skaven on 40k scale could be pretty terrifying conceptually. Imagine a scene where someone is describing a planet as barren only to realize its not the terrain their seeing but quadrillions of rats covering continents
I return to this and this is correct.
But honestly, Imperium does kinda fill most of Skaven's niche
Yes, the IoM are the Skaven of 40k
Numerous
Dirty
Close to none empathy for each others
Paranoia
Tech they half understand
genetic modifications...
Don't forget about the backstabbing and the cannibalism
Like
I also want 40K Skaven
I've put that under paranoia
Oh! I nthat case
Don't forget the diehard worshipping of a cannibalistic god
In fairness, only cause they're rats. Their actual society is very sad. Skaven are kinda tragic, tbh.
Yeah but funny rat man say word twice
I guess I just want the Imperium to be more like Saltzpyre in terms of energy
Its all a little too serious sometimes
I don't think I need any other Faction (For 40k TT) to be honest.
Maybe the Exodites to be updated but other than that
He's serious in his character but AS a character he is very funny
Guy did kill a child (and a lot of innocents alongside) under suspicion of vampirism
but that's like saying cartman is a serious portrayal because he fed a kid his parents
cartoonish violence
I mean, there were Vampiric influence at play there
I'd say the context is different, but fair.
Oh, yeah, 100%. The girl was almost certainly a vampire.
But he did knowingly kill a lot of innocents because he knew that it'd guarantee the death of the guilty
context is different but my point is they're both cartoonish portrayals of heinous people
And I think the imperium could be a bit more cartoonish
fair
I think Saltz say she wasn't, or so he believe, but her father might
The important thing is it haunted him
He wanted to be a steamtank pilot
Elaborate suicide, tbh
That’s just being a human in Warhammer Fantasy
I really like the bonereapers
I like the Kharadron and what they did to chaos.
Though I dislike the cow elf and the Fyre Slayer
vamps are pretty cool but them old skellie models 🥺
oh also
i love stormcaste lore.
I really hope we get an AoS video game soon
a good one, that is.
Total Warhammer ends to welcome in...
THE AGE OF SIGMAR
an Oathbound RPG would be interesting
UGH SUGMAR DICK
BY THE HAMMER AND THE EMPIRE
Soulbound is very fun
I'm so stupid in forgetting it's SOULbound lol
well I got a mobile game for you!!!
me listening to 2pac while playing Empire in Total War
Stormcast are pretty cool but I think the sky dwarfs (patent pending) in a game would be neat
lot of factions in sigmar is quite cool twists on their original incarnation overall
ye
i also LOVE daughters of khaine
And Seraphon.
Granted i like daughters of khaine because lesbian
kinda hoping we get a nu-tomb kings or something in AoS tbh 😔
ok based
Grandfather nurgle is definitely the kindest of the chaos gods
I said kindest not kind
nurgle just gives you stolkhome syndrome.
Its called relativism
But I'd much rather be serving nurgle than khorne
Khorne just gonna give me a hate boner. At least with Nurgle I'm constantly high
you say this now.
dude did twist the mind of festus into being a plague boy
Hate boner or std
I'm taking hate boner
Slaanesh will do weird 70s SA shit
Khorne will make you really mad all the time
Tzeentch will do whatever the fuck vilitch is
Nurgle will make you gross but also happy
all around
Im already gross
slaanesh, worst deal
Tzeentch after
Khorne and Nurgle are the ones really being debated
it just depends how you want to feel.
and if you will feel that way.
nurgle can ALSO make you feel super fucking depressed
Problem with Khorne is there is no neutral state
remind you.
You always have to be murdering or else you fucking die
I think 1 thing I liked about nurgle is one story told about a guard who was left loose on a nurgle ship and overtime he fell to disease
im tryna figure out what to play
battlefleet gothic or vermintide.
and loved it
Battlefleet Gothic
alrighty- thank you!
You beat stuff up
chances of that are one in a literal billion
With big axes
Probably even lower tbh
Bruh this is all fictional
There’s quadrillions of humans in 40k
I'm saying hypothetically
I wish tyranids
like dont give them guns
were not xenomorphs
The Gaunts holding guns does always look funny
tbf they're just adapting to the extreme shootouts of the 41st millenium
if they went to the wild west they'd grow revolvers out their asses
But I think it'd be better if they like shot spines or something instead of guns
TBF, if you die of nurgle's rot you turn into a plaguebearer right? so that's much easier
Not usually what people mean when they say "become a daemon" but it still counts
In walks the Gunslinger, with a big iron on his hip
In walks the outlaw, whose aim is about to slip
Parry this you fucking xeno
techno orchestral ecstasy of gold remix starts
ngl I feel like tyranids are aesthetically a little bland.
Its like: Hey ya like zerg and xenomorphs? Well we got those kinda
I like the aesthetic but I can't get over those BULBOUS heads
fellas look like megamind
boythehellboy
No sisters of battle?
Ridged for your pleasure

Sometimes tyranids look really cool




