#40k-lore-chat

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crisp heath
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Ephrael is a weird A+ psyker.

dusk patrol
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She's not a psyker weirdly but regardless, they're SoB

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My point is, you can have what you want

crisp heath
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one is, yes

dusk knot
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she's a saint

crisp heath
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shes also with a harlequin.

storm jungle
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look

arctic talon
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Celestine is a “human” the same way Yarrick is a “human”

dusk knot
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who literally is unkillable

unique berry
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That just straight up hurt lol

storm jungle
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at least we got Agatha Trunchbull as Creed's daughter

crisp heath
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yes.

storm jungle
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YEET

unique berry
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Iron Warriors carried the HH.

fierce pendant
dusk patrol
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I guess my other thing is, the worth of a faction is not and should not be dictated by the very narrow level of "if they can win sword fights 1v1"

fierce pendant
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No seriously the helmet on that mini

unique berry
plush mason
celest dome
dusk patrol
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Because if that was the case, then just make all your dudes Ogryns

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Because Ogryns tear marines apart in close combat super often.

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And there are female Ogryns

crisp heath
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I should also mention

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my points are kinda.. weird.

arctic talon
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The ogryn are sorta small compared to canon ogryn

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They’re also smart

crisp heath
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its a long story but im going to therapy over an inferiority complex.

dusk patrol
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I just wouldn't get hung up on this stuff, or just kitbash out of lore allowances

dusk knot
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the point is that gw dances around the simple solution to keep a fan base happy

crisp heath
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so, my points are kind of sided towards that.

arctic talon
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Lol

crisp heath
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Due to my own personal experiences.

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im warning this now because i can get a bit.. bad with this stuff.

arctic talon
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Honestly it’s lot like darktide is super lore accurate gameplay wise

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Tbh

dusk knot
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no matter the lore, the stats or anything in universe

arctic talon
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The plasma pistol should turn us to paste

unique berry
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So i just gotta ask why is the 30k SM armor 100x cooler than the 40-41k armor?

dusk knot
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because GW write the lore and make the rules

arctic talon
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Because you like the knight helmet

minor lance
storm jungle
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also more industrial-punk backpack

crisp heath
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also

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Dilara your pretty cool

dusk knot
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ye I like Dilara

storm jungle
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I can be a dick at times but i try

dusk knot
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very cool bub

unique berry
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Dilara one of the most based person on this discord

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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dont jinx it 💀

dusk knot
arctic talon
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When you hit an ogryn in the head but it’s just his brain

languid crypt
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Is cool. Da boyz like

unique berry
crisp heath
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but yeah- onto better pastures

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Inquisitors are sick.

dusk knot
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inquisitors are cool when they aren't just "kill"

crisp heath
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i like them all

languid crypt
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Hmmmm. Exterminatus

crisp heath
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Primarily because i can actually play a woman in power armor that isnt weak to marine-plot.

arctic talon
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The inquisitors name is Grendyl right

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Or someone’s name is

fierce pendant
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Yes

crisp heath
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I tend to make up my own characters for this stuff.

languid crypt
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We have names for the goons?

fierce pendant
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Grendyl is the inquisitor in charge of things and events happening on Atoma Prime Tetrium etc.

arctic talon
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We don’t have canon names for the characters since they’re custom

fierce pendant
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As in in charge of cleaning up the mess.

dusk knot
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inquisitors and rogue traders are good

arctic talon
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But I’ve heard them mention a Pilot and Hadron and Zola and Grendyl

languid crypt
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I only know Metalface, Flygirl, and Sah

arctic talon
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lol

fierce pendant
arctic talon
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Yeah

dusk knot
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the sergeant is from the steel legion

languid crypt
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Witch one is Zola?

fierce pendant
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Misozi is the new Olesya from Vermintide, a pilot of the Valkyrie our characters use to get to missions

arctic talon
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Zola is the lady that isn’t admech

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And is also nicer

dusk patrol
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Yeah

storm jungle
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Shes a local from the planet yeah

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Explicator iirc

languid crypt
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Don't remember her

fierce pendant
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Or well all of the above mixed together ^

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We don't know fully

storm jungle
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Explicator - The first step of an Inquisitor in training, they learn how to extract information using torture under the direction of their mentor Inquisitor.

obsidian wing
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Zola seems a guardswoman, the only witch we have heard of is Inquisitor Grendyl since all Inquisitors are psykers

fierce pendant
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Yeah that would make sense

languid crypt
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Hey Brogryn, whats your Ogryns name?

dusk patrol
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Favorite Ad Mech Lady line: "Special bullets are in short supply. No special bullets, no making spikey people go boom. Understand?”

arctic talon
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A lot of them are

fierce pendant
arctic talon
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But not all

crisp heath
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Mechanicus is goals.

languid crypt
fierce pendant
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I'm a Nork fanboy

dusk patrol
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I just named my Ogryn Krab

arctic talon
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Based tbh

dusk patrol
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Nork is da best though

obsidian wing
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Not all but most of them are psykers I mean like 90-95%

languid crypt
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Is anyone here Brug or Krug?

dusk patrol
languid crypt
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Or Klug

crisp heath
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if i knew about the closed beta i woulda applied.

dusk patrol
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Its not super common

crisp heath
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oh well

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ANYWAY!

arctic talon
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There’s more inquisitors we know who aren’t psykers

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In canon

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Then are

crisp heath
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^^^

fierce pendant
dusk patrol
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A fair amount are but its not common yeah

arctic talon
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Also Hadron being an asshole is great

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Tbh

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She sounds like she’s done with everything

crisp heath
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Also, psykers are neat aswell

fierce pendant
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Lmao Hadron had a quote where she was sharing how much time she was working for the Inquisitor

obsidian wing
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Yeah just joking lmao

languid crypt
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She is an Admech

fierce pendant
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And just stating she was angry for the most of the time

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mood

languid crypt
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Famously done with BS

plush mason
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i cant tell if this is a battle scare or a surgical one

arctic talon
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Her saying that she can only assume we randomly pressed buttons until it worked is funny

full bane
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I think I've heard the name Rannik being mentioned as well.

languid crypt
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Surgical mabey? Some of the Ogryns seem almost smart

fierce pendant
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You can't cure braindead teammates

arctic talon
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The ogryn tbh are all way smarter then ogryn lol

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Like they’re bone’ead material

languid crypt
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We'z all Bone'eads

arctic talon
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True

obsidian wing
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the Ogryn is smarter and also shorter than typical ogryns in the lore

crisp heath
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^^^

plush mason
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nah but we are all alpha grade ogryn so maybe those are the smarter ones

crisp heath
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so, ive been thinking

fierce pendant
arctic talon
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Yeah I am aware lol

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I love the ogryn

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In game

languid crypt
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I feel like having a 9-12 foot ogyrn would be hard to fit in the hive

crisp heath
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if they make a fifth class for the game in the future, it should be Assassin.

obsidian wing
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Accurate size would be the plague ogryn’s that’s how tall ogryns should be

dusk knot
arctic talon
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An actual assassin would be a bit above the curve lol

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For our power level

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In game

crisp heath
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A lesser one

arctic talon
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Ah

crisp heath
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what are they called.

obsidian wing
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Assassin as in some hive assassin

arctic talon
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Fair enough

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Death cult assassins

crisp heath
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Yeah.

languid crypt
unique berry
crisp heath
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Not a Eversor

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an eversor could solo this game.

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like, not even a problem

obsidian wing
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Not the officio assassinorum but the private army and hireable type of assassins could work

unique berry
arctic talon
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I’d say any of the offico assasinorum assassins would do great

plush mason
languid crypt
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I've met two

fierce pendant
arctic talon
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I’ve met an ogryn called Spesh Muhrine

crisp heath
obsidian wing
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Lol you drop a damn Eversor in tertium no more Moebian sixth

crisp heath
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One killed like 50 marines by himself.

arctic talon
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Lol

languid crypt
arctic talon
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No more local population either lol

crisp heath
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yeah.

full bane
obsidian wing
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He can massacre millions

plush mason
celest dome
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My Psyker is called Cactus
I played with 2 Ogryn who were called Tree and Grass. Was fun

crisp heath
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supposebly there was an eversor able to kill a marine.

languid crypt
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I was in a game with 3 ogryns

languid crypt
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Fugg, Rad, and a 3rd one

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3rd one tried to eat me when I was downed

arctic talon
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Tbf eversor also explode violently

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When they die

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So that always helps

celest dome
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The only one who have killed a Primarch (While not being Primarch themselves) was a Cadicus Assassin (Polymorpher and such)

arctic talon
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Also curze let her kill him

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As well

languid crypt
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And its not even confirmed, cause 40k

minor lance
arctic talon
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But that’s more so since curze is a fucking weirdo

languid crypt
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I THINK he's dead

arctic talon
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He’s dead

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Like confirmed dead

languid crypt
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I feel like they could make him come back

obsidian wing
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Curze is dead if he ain’t he would’ve been a daemon prince wether he likes it or not

arctic talon
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I mean yeah but why would they

languid crypt
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Cause money

arctic talon
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His end goal was to die

languid crypt
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Night lords are kinda popular

minor lance
# crisp heath primarch*

Also, I was about to say. Eversor being able to kill 1 marine? Good job on the marines, holy shit, they are power houses for only losing 1

arctic talon
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There’s a lot more primarchs to bring back

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That are probable

languid crypt
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Like my boy Dorn

celest dome
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Curze is dead. But he did have the Nemesis Crown (Not sure of the name, but highly psyker item), so there might be something with it
But he dead and won't come back, would defeat a lot of his Legions' history/motif

arctic talon
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^

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This

obsidian wing
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Eversors can kill lots of space marines, like for example in the Beast Arises novels

celest dome
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Didn't an Eversor kill a SM Chapter Master while trying to get someone else

celest dome
obsidian wing
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One in that HH book have been able to kill multiple Sons of Horus traitor marines before dying

minor lance
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Eversors are assassins in in the same way an ICBM is an assassin

full bane
arctic talon
languid crypt
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I think there was a renegade High Lord who had 100 Evisors, and 299 spesh murines died killing em

obsidian wing
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Eversors is like DOOM Slayer and Rambo but high on steroids and combat enhancing drugs like Bane

celest dome
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Curze's Crown is the Corona Nox (Nigh Crown)

languid crypt
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Wuzzit do

arctic talon
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um akshully it would be crown of night

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It does nothing iirc

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It’s just a fancy crown

arctic talon
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It’s power as a symbol is what is valuable

full bane
arctic talon
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There’s also a soul stone on it

crisp heath
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But uhh-

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I do like Sororitas

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they are just cool.

full bane
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He didn't so much have a hundred Eversors as he did command the entire four (five?) Temples.

celest dome
crisp heath
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And allow trans recruits!

obsidian wing
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His Crown probably was made of human bones

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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It wasn’t an Eversor that killed Curze either

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It was a Callidus

minor lance
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Eversor Assassin DLC when?

obsidian wing
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Well fitting with the night lords theme that they are basically Yautja-like space emos

crisp heath
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I love predators

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dont compare them to night lords

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the fuckers.

arctic talon
obsidian wing
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Callidus assassin is the one who killed Curze

crisp heath
arctic talon
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Lol

obsidian wing
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M’Shen is her name

minor lance
full bane
obsidian wing
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And the Night Lords hunted her down and killed her

arctic talon
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The fun thing is eversors are like

crisp heath
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i personally wanna be woman

arctic talon
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Sometimes mentally there

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And other times are uh

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yeah

languid crypt
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Killkillkillkill

obsidian wing
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Well most of the callidus assasins are female

minor lance
arctic talon
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There’s also tech priests who do biological stuff

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Genators

obsidian wing
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The gene altering drugs and enhancements only suited for females

minor lance
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The moments of eversor lucidity are mostly "HOW do I kill?"

arctic talon
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There’s also where is my thing for killing

obsidian wing
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Eversors are mostly or are all male iirc

languid crypt
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Ok, grug leave

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Bye

nocturne jetty
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Psyker!

minor lance
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The only difference between Khornate corruption and an Eversor assassin is that eversor assassins cannot comprehend Khorne as a concept.

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They are so druggd upo and kill hungry

unique berry
minor lance
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Even Khorne cannot touch them

nocturne jetty
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I hope Darktide isn't only about Nurgloth

minor lance
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Which, to be fair, is 'based'

full bane
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There are Techpriests who choose to present as one gender or another, or neither.
Or a brain in a jar.
The ultimate freedom lies in being schackled to an ancient and unyielding doctrine about the preservation of technology.

obsidian wing
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Eversor is 40k doom slayer but on a switch tbh

celest dome
minor lance
nocturne jetty
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Slannesh Cult lolll

celest dome
nocturne jetty
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Slanneshi Jumpscare

celest dome
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Leaving 3 additional Faction to appear

arctic talon
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And they go fast

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Hound of slaanesh like all good pit bulls breaks the sound barrier to maul children(non ogryn)

obsidian wing
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Slaanesh are too few to be a threat and Nurgle’s already dibs on Atoma, Khorne will be alright but won’t offer much enemy variety, Tzeentch too powerful that the Inquisitor might need blanks and likely the Grey Knights as well

nocturne jetty
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So Darktide is Space marine/Inquisiton?

nocturne jetty
unique berry
nocturne jetty
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I never saw an Inquisitior psyker

obsidian wing
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Darktide is some threat or warp phenomenon but I think it’s some corrupting plague

arctic talon
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^prolly

nocturne jetty
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Omg i hope there will be Mechs too in Darktide

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Solaria

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!

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jk

celest dome
minor lance
# celest dome Or another Cult of Chaos

I think this is much less likely. Tzeench has too many annoying units (haha beastmen), Khorne is a possibility but probably has too much melee and we'd just be playing VT2 again (but could be fun!), Slaanesh is possible (there is more to Slaanesh than haha sexy) but the speed on the pox puppers are already absurd and I don't wanna deal with even faster units.

Genestealer cult seems to be the best bet. Maybe orks, too. God I would love orks. But less likely

nocturne jetty
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Oh no what happend with VT2

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Darktide comes new game

chrome dragon
obsidian wing
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Based on the articles the Moebian Sixth fought the darktide but they become corrupted and secretly converted, so Darktide is some weird warp event by none other than Grandpa Nurgs

arctic talon
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Also ngl I love how disciplined the Moebian 6th are

nocturne jetty
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in Darktide

celest dome
nocturne jetty
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Also can someone tell me why can Ogryn be Disabled

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lolll

chrome dragon
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They have low IQ

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Because planet evolved them to be big not brainy

minor lance
full bane
minor lance
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Also, to be fair ,there are ranged focused Khornate cults. Bloodguard or something?

obsidian wing
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Moebian Seventh would’ve been a better name since seven is sacred to Nurgle, six is for Slaanesh (smex)

nocturne jetty
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Does this mean we fight Space Marines too?

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.

chrome dragon
nocturne jetty
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And ELDAR!

minor lance
celest dome
obsidian wing
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No space marines in the game the devs said

nocturne jetty
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Inqusition hates Space marines?

arctic talon
chrome dragon
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Im sorry Mira but your reputation for schizo carries unto this server as well

arctic talon
chrome dragon
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“Worrior Priest”

celest dome
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The Khornate Guardsmen are the Blood Cult and the Son of Sek or something

full bane
nocturne jetty
obsidian wing
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But tbh realistically even 4 psykers fights a death guard or Nurgle warband chaos marine I doubt they can survive

minor lance
nocturne jetty
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💀

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I wonder how op Psykers gonna be in Darktide

chrome dragon
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So are we fighting just one Guardsman regiment

nocturne jetty
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like Nuking evreything and

chrome dragon
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How many are actually in a Regiment though

nocturne jetty
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Blowing heads

chrome dragon
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Especially 40k

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It could be millions

celest dome
obsidian wing
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What bothers me with the plague ogryn is that they regenerate in the lore, the devs should implement that in-game

nocturne jetty
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Yes

arctic talon
obsidian wing
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They also exude some toxic gas as well

chrome dragon
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No

celest dome
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They do ?

nocturne jetty
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I want Plague ogryn harder

arctic talon
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They can instakill specials

chrome dragon
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Too overtuned

arctic talon
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Ngl plague ogryn don’t feel scary enough

nocturne jetty
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Wait till Enemy fire you with Gun and you dont melee anymore

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lol

arctic talon
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Maulers feel way too scary lol

chrome dragon
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Everyone will just pick Psyker so they will explode their heads

arctic talon
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I fucking hate maulers

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So much

nocturne jetty
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Yes

chrome dragon
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Everything in Darktide has more hp

full bane
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I love seeing maulers. It means it's time to go to work with my force sword.

arctic talon
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Lol

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Fair enough

chrome dragon
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I would prefer squishier enemies and players

full bane
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I hate seeing them in crowds though.

arctic talon
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Maulers are fun to instakill with a thunder hammer

obsidian wing
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You can tank both the plague ogryns’ and that heretic boss mofo if your team drop lots of med kits around you lol

chrome dragon
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I love to chainsword maulers

arctic talon
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But when there’s like 3 in a crowd

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I fucking hate it

nocturne jetty
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You can make a Mauler in half?

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.

chrome dragon
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Shotguns destroy Maulers

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You blast them unto the ground

arctic talon
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True

full bane
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That moment of surprise when they pop out of a horde and slam an axe into your face.

chrome dragon
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And unload on them

arctic talon
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Are maulers all armored?

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Or is it just their body

chrome dragon
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Yes

arctic talon
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  • head
nocturne jetty
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Armored

chrome dragon
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All

arctic talon
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Wonderful

nocturne jetty
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lolll

full bane
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Then you try and hit them back and get stuck on a zombie instead.

inland mortar
# arctic talon They’re pretty good in the beta

They feel good to play, but their ability seems... weird. I think Psyker, and I think lots of CC abilities. It seems like their main job is single target snipers instead, which is fine, but as it currently stands we have psykers for big single target damage, ogryns for tanks, zealots do... something (admittedly the only one I haven't played, but their ability seems identical to the ogryn's) and then veterans are best cc in the game

arctic talon
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Most of my wipes have been to suprise maulers or snipers

nocturne jetty
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Imagine not having Armor Piercing Weapon

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.

chrome dragon
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Maulers when they do the Chaos Warrior overheads

arctic talon
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The worst thing I’ve seen is 2 maulers and a bulwark in a choke

chrome dragon
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Wait

obsidian wing
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Mailers are more op than the ogryns tbh ingame they need a nerf

arctic talon
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That was pretty funny

full bane
chrome dragon
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Are the melee Ogryns the Chaos Warriors then

arctic talon
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Yeah

nocturne jetty
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@chrome dragon Omggg Will Darktide get Coruscation too

chrome dragon
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The ones with the two handeds

nocturne jetty
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lol

arctic talon
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Melee ogryn are like chaos warriors

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Maulers are

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Idk

chrome dragon
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Maulers

arctic talon
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I hate them lol

chrome dragon
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Vermintide Maulers

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They are the same thing

arctic talon
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They’re stronger then VT maulers

obsidian wing
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Fighting a Mauler will give you an idea how It’s like to battle a slow traitor space marine

arctic talon
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They hurt more

nocturne jetty
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Yes

celest dome
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VT2 mauler feel much less scary

arctic talon
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^

chrome dragon
nocturne jetty
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Yes

arctic talon
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Like they’re way stronger

nocturne jetty
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1 Shot Mauler

chrome dragon
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Everything is easier to kill in Vermintide

nocturne jetty
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lol

crisp heath
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so-

arctic talon
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Also 200 toughness damage is very funny

nocturne jetty
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Also Darktide has no Leech?

crisp heath
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arent living saints basically daemon princes on golden hue?

chrome dragon
arctic talon
nocturne jetty
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Dang

obsidian wing
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And it’s funny they’re more op than the chaos warriors in vm2

celest dome
arctic talon
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I hate the maulers with a passion

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They feel overtuned

crisp heath
arctic talon
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But maybe that’s bcs we don’t have a full arsenal yet

crisp heath
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did i mention i play kerillian?

arctic talon
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Lol

crisp heath
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specifically shade?

celest dome
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Nah they're fine, it's just that they sneak up in hordes

chrome dragon
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As it turns out better armor exists in 40k

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What kind of armor do Maulers have

celest dome
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Carapace ?

chrome dragon
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No as in material

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Plasteel?

inland mortar
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I think it's like, bastardized welding gear

obsidian wing
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Gotta be made of adamantium

celest dome
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Though stat wise, Flak and Plate armour is the same

obsidian wing
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How tough those mofos are

minor lance
chrome dragon
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Love how lasguns dont go thru Mauler armor but smgs do

minor lance
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But they're like.. We only know of 1. But it's a precedent. Well, 2, technically. But the second is an offshoot of the first

arctic talon
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Maulers have carapace

celest dome
obsidian wing
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Maulers can even tank a bolt round I bet with how tough they are lmao

full bane
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There's some shenanigans going on on the Emps part.

obsidian wing
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Hoping we see daemons in the game

arctic talon
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Prolly a plaguebearer

full bane
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Or a Chaos Spawn.

arctic talon
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Also technically it’s a daemon in the foundry mission lol

celest dome
full bane
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Straight from Vermintide 2, no changes at all.

obsidian wing
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Got tired of cultists and stuff I mean we need some new and fresh enemies

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Chaos spawn will be nice

minor lance
inland mortar
arctic talon
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Still a daemon

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It’s just a daemon shoved into a machine

full bane
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Though it still doesn't match exactly

obsidian wing
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Well it is but I mean traditional Nurgle daemons

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You know like plaguebearers , even some nurglings will be nice

arctic talon
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Ye

obsidian wing
#

I mean there are poxwalkers so we need their “overseers”

full bane
#

Small swarms of nurglings would be nice.
Maybe a Beast of Nurgle as a boss?

celest dome
#

Beast of Nurgle and Great Unclean one ?

obsidian wing
#

Yeah lesser daemons is more lore-friendly and believable

arctic talon
#

Great unclean one is a bit above our power level

#

And by a bit

#

I mean really

obsidian wing
#

GUO is Grey Knight-level threat lmao

arctic talon
#

Yeah

full bane
#

A Great Unclean One would mean that the Hive is gone.

obsidian wing
#

Or the Inquisitor say nope and exterminatus so yeah GUO is a no-no

full bane
#

Like I could see one being a level fixture, destroying spires and buildings in the background after shit has hit the fan.

copper cliff
#

I think in story of the game we're too small scale to actually attract anything super intense. As the characters state: "As bad as it is here, its probably worse elsewhere." That elsewhere being where the Inquisition is likely deploying its actual assets. Where as we are the suicide squad™️

obsidian wing
#

Yeah I mean it’s stationary and not really threatening at all we need daemons that fight back and look like daemons

#

Lore wise makes sense but don’t make sense too that 4 prisoners can beat a horde and whole platoon of traitor Imperial guard

#

In a single mission btw

copper cliff
#

It totally makes sense, we're badasses

#

Its called fiction for a reason

obsidian wing
#

You don’t read that kind of fiction in the same universe of the main fiction though

full bane
#

I could see like a "Doom of Hive whatever" set of missions where you get sent to a hive on either a different planet or on the other side of the current one, and there's a GOU rumbling around the level.
Instead of a lift as a transition, the GOU breaks something in the background that drops a piece of rubble you can cross, while nurglings, poxwalkers, and the occasional plaguebearer elite roll out from its folds and pustules.

obsidian wing
#

VM series makes sense given the u5 are not typical mortals

celest dome
#

I'm more on Fantasy, where a GUO wouldn't be that weird for the U5 to defeat

obsidian wing
#

But they didn’t appear in the game still

copper cliff
#

There's all sorts of nonsense in the 40k universe

#

This is pretty tame

obsidian wing
#

Yeah I guess and GW likes to retcon stuff anyway

#

And makes stuff that kinda don’t make sense

copper cliff
#

Its hard to be like DA LORE for a franchise that writes lore around selling tiny plastic figurines

crisp heath
#

pretty sure

#

a daemon would massacre us

obsidian wing
#

A psyker can kill a lesser daemon

crisp heath
#

Can, yes.

#

but that depends on the psyker level.

obsidian wing
#

Even a normal human can given the right situation

copper cliff
#

Apply enough las

minor lance
#

Keep in mind we are 'heroic units' by that point

crisp heath
#

i see

celest dome
#

Lesser Daemon are fair game

copper cliff
#

Power scaling is fake and good writers don't write stories around arbitrary stat sheets and metrics

crisp heath
#

what psyker classification is the psyker in game?

celest dome
#

Greater are much more iffy and less likely

obsidian wing
#

Lesser daemons are nurglings, plague flies, nurglings etc they are quite easy to kill problem is they are toxic

#

Sanctioned psyker

crisp heath
#

Im gonna assume Delta, then.

celest dome
minor lance
#

Plague Ogryns are fucking dangerous.

crisp heath
minor lance
#

Like, in lore, they are extreeeemely dangerous

copper cliff
#

Rot fly enemies when

obsidian wing
#

Yeah plaguebearers are supposed to lead poxwalkers in the lore btw

#

So they can appear as elites ingame

celest dome
#

Bilepiper would be a fun Lord to face

copper cliff
obsidian wing
#

Maybe they show up in highest difficulty and makes the poxwalkers tougher to kill

#

So priority is taking them out

minor lance
#

While we will (and I am very glad about this) never have SPESS MUHREENZ in this game... By late game a reject squad 100% could kill a Deathguard without too much hassle. The pinnacle of humans are still terrifying when well equipped.

copper cliff
#

I'd say it would be a hassle for sure but like

unique berry
#

*Iron warrior
just saw it

copper cliff
#

Apply quadruple plasma gun

celest dome
obsidian wing
#

If meltagun is in the game we can kill a space marine even with terminator armor

celest dome
crisp heath
copper cliff
#

People have a weird boner for how unsurmountable space marines are as if them dying isn't a constant thing that happens all the time

minor lance
crisp heath
#

also reminder

copper cliff
#

True I just still think Deathguard are a hassle

#

Because deathguard

crisp heath
#

a word bearer was killed

#

with a stick

obsidian wing
#

Deathguard are slow unless it’s the deathshroud

copper cliff
#

They're also notoriously tough because of the whole painless abominations thing

obsidian wing
#

Tough and they regenerate

minor lance
#

The strength of Death Guard is super inconsistent

obsidian wing
#

And also resurrects depends on Grandpa’s blessing

minor lance
#

Some books have them as unkillable, immortal abominations

crisp heath
#

It all depends on the death guard in question

minor lance
#

Others they are just extra durable SMs

copper cliff
#

but my main point would be not that its impossible for the player characters to take down this that and the other but that it would be unlikely they'd send them to deal with it in the first place. Remember, we are chaff for the slaughter.

crisp heath
#

i do bet we will kill/fight a dark mechanicum agent though.

celest dome
#

Size wise, a Thermi would be good, they have nice weapon kit to boot

crisp heath
copper cliff
#

Idk if we'll get a melta but we'll have to see

crisp heath
#

I wouldnt doubt it

#

given how the dwarf played in vermintide.

celest dome
#

All Chaos SM are weaker than Loyalist, but can be better due to the gift, but those can easily be lost if they displease their masters

dusk patrol
#

You have Typhus whose a one man army causally tearing apart ships, and some marine whose a bit sick and can take an extra round or two

celest dome
copper cliff
#

he's got a bit of a cough

dusk patrol
#

They were confirmed for Vet I believe

celest dome
copper cliff
#

neat

minor lance
crisp heath
#

now im just imagining a perfectly normal looking death guard that just randomly does a little cough

copper cliff
#

that would be interesting. How does the inquisition deal with penal squads that turn out to be extremely useful?

crisp heath
#

and, question

obsidian wing
#

If the mauler can tank meltashots then I guess he’s the most toughest traitor guard ever lmao

celest dome
crisp heath
#

retinue

copper cliff
#

Step 1: Commit Crime

Step 2: Murder heretics

Step 3: Profit

dusk patrol
crisp heath
#

i will say though, is this game canon to 40k?

dusk patrol
#

Acolytes

crisp heath
#

like, this is always the question

dusk patrol
crisp heath
#

whats canon to 40k game wise

#

and what isnt

dusk patrol
#

Or the rough idea is

copper cliff
#

Isn't it written by a popularwriter?

crisp heath
#

for example- space marine isnt.

obsidian wing
#

I mean if Inquisitor Grendyl is a rogue one we might even get xenos and daemon operatives theoretically

celest dome
#

Dan Abnett

copper cliff
#

I just want a gene stealer cult

crisp heath
#

hes a radical.

copper cliff
#

I wanna shoot bugs

crisp heath
#

which is basically what you said but legal.

celest dome
copper cliff
#

rock and stone

obsidian wing
#

Yeah radical

crisp heath
#

ROCK AND STONE

copper cliff
#

RADICAL inqusition

minor lance
crisp heath
#

i love the character creation

obsidian wing
#

Well Eisenhorn is a rogue one now ain’t he?

minor lance
#

Yes

crisp heath
#

Nope.

#

Radica- oh?

minor lance
#

wait

#

Sorry, I was answering something else

#

I am dumb

crisp heath
#

im 99% certain hes a radical inquisitor.

copper cliff
#

I'm surprised there's not as many suicide squad memes about this game

crisp heath
#

inquisition is my expertise.

minor lance
celest dome
#

We have no inclination that he is either way

dusk patrol
#

And is now a heretical agent

#

He’s gone off the deep end by quite a bit

obsidian wing
#

We are not forced though we are willing

crisp heath
#

mhm

#

it tells me

#

more than likely

#

we are gonna become important somehow

minor lance
crisp heath
#

likely by killing a big chaos lord at the end.

#

human or not.

obsidian wing
#

Yes based on their dialogue

dusk patrol
#

I mean I don’t think our characters were given much of a choice

minor lance
copper cliff
#

From dialogue it seems like most of the group is either crazy or loyalist to the imperium

dusk patrol
#

But it’s probably better than being stuck on some prison ship

crisp heath
copper cliff
#

I do like the part where the vet is like: wouldn't it be cool to see terra

And the psyker is like: I don't wanna be a battery for your dumb god!

minor lance
#

So if a few individuals from a penal regiment end up doing some reeeaally fancy work in the name of Big E, they won't just waste them

crisp heath
#

Chad Psyker

obsidian wing
#

Well they are given a 2nd chance and are grateful

dusk patrol
#

Well lucky for the Psyker they aren’t powerful enough to be one

crisp heath
#

yes.

#

Yknow, psykers are cool.

#

also kinda sad.

obsidian wing
#

Defo loyalist

dusk patrol
#

And also they’d probably end up as an astropath or something

minor lance
crisp heath
#

you need a specific gene

#

to be an astropath

copper cliff
#

I mean psykers are basically just fellas born with an inseparable desire to BOOGY all over the brain matter of lesser lifeforms

crisp heath
#

Not really

dusk patrol
#

Depends on the Psyker, there’s varying disciplines

celest dome
obsidian wing
#

Yeah but rather that than fighting Nurgle cults and smelling a plague ogryn

dusk patrol
#

That’s Navigators

#

Astropaths are different

copper cliff
#

Plague ogryn vs space marine

dusk patrol
#

They’re like Psyker communicators

obsidian wing
#

Space marines for ranged weapons

copper cliff
#

I wonder if we'll get the puny hoomie bolters

#

Part of me still wants a black orc big boss hero for vermintide

obsidian wing
#

Even plague ogryns are not smart to spit and that would’ve been a very dangerous projectile

minor lance
dusk patrol
minor lance
#

Penal legions are like uhh... That one French legion of convicts

celest dome
#

I'm hoping we see a Plague Ogryn based on a Bullgryn Grenadier
Kinda like the Rat Ogre and the Stormfiend but with a Blight Grenade launcher instead

dusk patrol
#

Penal legions typically aren’t much of a choice if they’ve given one at all

copper cliff
#

I think you could convince an orc to do teamwork if it means more rats to krump

dusk patrol
#

Generally it’s just “let’s use these prisoners for something useful”

copper cliff
#

Orcs do work as mercenaries in fantasy

#

Sometimes

dusk patrol
#

Tbh it’s very very unrealistic that they’d let the psykers do what they do in the game but it’s whatever

copper cliff
#

When they're more clever than brutal

celest dome
dusk patrol
#

It’s gameplay

obsidian wing
#

Yeah makes sense they’re expendables anyway

minor lance
copper cliff
#

Yeah bit theyre also brainwashed into the imperium as everyone is

dusk patrol
#

I think they’re just happy to get a chance to do something

plush mason
dusk patrol
#

They definitely have some level of freedom too in how they go about their missions

minor lance
dusk patrol
#

They are I believe

#

They’re from a prison ship or planet or something

copper cliff
#

I'm pretty sure we were on a prison ship

#

Not a legion

obsidian wing
#

I remember the female tech priest says the characters and manufactorum workers are replaceable And expendable but the leman russes are not

plush mason
#

the 2 most famous penal legions are the last chancers and the scrap dogs afaik

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

celest dome
copper cliff
#

Yeah one of the missions is in a leman russ factory isn't it?

minor lance
#

Ty

obsidian wing
#

Makes sense though I mean in 40k humans are commodity

copper cliff
#

Imperial guard are the currency that the imperium wagers with

#

Space marines are needs

#

Nerds

#

Geeks

#

Troglodites

minor lance
#

This is kinad off topic but

#

I really want a Tech Priest who's just Ikit Claw

plush mason
#

that mission in the leman russ factory also states that the mobian sector is famed for a special ore that is stronger than normal

celest dome
#

Space marines are logistical anomalies and cost more than they should

minor lance
#

Call them Ekeet Craw or something.

copper cliff
#

Space marines are like blackwater, morally rephrensable and unreliable

crisp heath
#

Marines are for nerds

celest dome
crisp heath
#

chads use sororitas.

dusk patrol
#

With some exceptions but even then

copper cliff
#

Not really, they can't hold shit consistently

minor lance
celest dome
minor lance
#

That fits perfectly into the Mechanicus normal

plush mason
obsidian wing
#

Would be nice if we get a pariah class

copper cliff
#

Yeah thats unreliable

dusk patrol
minor lance
copper cliff
#

Wouldn't call a marine corps of 50 guys a reliable military power

dusk patrol
#

Except for like, the Custodes and small elements

celest dome
minor lance
#

He's more like... Insanely evil. I want evilly insane.

copper cliff
#

Do normal humans have space marines beat on per capita chaos conversions?

dusk patrol
celest dome
plush mason
#

cause there are so few space marines next to normal humans

dusk patrol
#

Half of the military forces turned anyways forces

#

The traitor legions weren’t gonna take the Imperium with just marines

celest dome
copper cliff
#

Imagine you're literally Jesus and some fucking dingus with a lasgun in some smoggy hellworld is doing more for God than you.

obsidian wing
#

Cawl fits but I think it’s Bile in the later stages of the Great Crusade

dusk patrol
#

They had a shitton of regiments, fleets, Titan Legios, and worlds turn with them, roughly half

#

Mars itself fell to Chaos

celest dome
dusk patrol
#

There wasn’t a neutral option

copper cliff
#

Tell that to fascist space Empire nobility

dusk patrol
#

Some worlds could try to stay out of it, but the forces themselves all chose sides

#

And everyone has to choose a side eventually

celest dome
#

A lot of planets just shut down comms and stayed like that

copper cliff
#

They play both sides so they're always coming out on top

celest dome
#

Like the Vostroyan did it

#

Now they give their 1st born

obsidian wing
#

Well some got tricked by the Alpha legion to rebel

copper cliff
#

Until a chaos legion is just like you shoulda picked us harder

dusk patrol
#

There’s some examples but not many, it wasn’t the norm. And often it was viewed as just helping chaos if you didn’t choose a side.

obsidian wing
#

Some planets who remained loyal or even neutral are ravaged by the traitors

copper cliff
#

At least grandfather nurgle will love me

dusk patrol
#

Those who tried to remain neutral only did so because they lucked out and never got noticed

copper cliff
#

I don't get chaos undivided. How the fuck do you mix sex, pleasure, and pain with disease, rot, blood, skulls, and BOOKS. wtf

obsidian wing
#

Yeah if they are in the path toward Terra whoever landed there first both sides don’t care they either fortify it or raze it

copper cliff
#

Chaos undivided is the worst orgy ever

obsidian wing
#

I though the Moebian sixth would be chaos undivided tbh

dusk patrol
#

They got a lot of Nurgle markings on them

obsidian wing
#

If they are then the devs could’ve easily introduced the other chaos gods in the game later

celest dome
copper cliff
#

easier to make another nurgle enemy when they already had half of them in vermintide 2

#

Also nurgle has the best designs

dusk patrol
obsidian wing
#

Undivided is setting aside your beefs for the greater chaos picture

dusk patrol
#

Yeah

celest dome
copper cliff
#

wouldn't that be malice? Chaos as just.. A thing

dusk patrol
#

No

obsidian wing
#

It’s a temporary alliance but when they are united it’s dangerous

crisp heath
#

this game proves that lasguns aren't anymore powerful than your average battle rifle, and that the reason the imperium uses them is because they are a logistical superweapon

dusk patrol
#

Malice is a minor entity with his own deal

celest dome
#

Not really, Malice/Malal was: Chaos should not have any order
Undivided is: Chaos must prevail

copper cliff
#

I c

#

so malice is chaos of: SCREAMING INCOHERENTLY

#

and chaos undivided is: LETS BURN SHIT FOR THE GODS!

celest dome
#

Chaos God of Prime Chaos

obsidian wing
#

Malice is the loose part that will make the chaos strategy engine give out

celest dome
#

As a thing

obsidian wing
#

Malice is the chaos god of idgaf

#

For the lulz, yolo etc

copper cliff
#

Chaos god of joker brained

fierce pendant
#

Malice? That reminds me of Mind goblins

celest dome
#

It's not really just "I'm so random"

It's more "Chaos mean Chaos, the Chaos Gods are as much against the real Chaos as the Emperor, as they make it more structured"

copper cliff
#

I just want skaven in 40k

obsidian wing
#

Chances are so low that we might get beastmen instead

celest dome
#

Beastmen were (and still) are part of the cannon though

#

Oh you mean for Darktide ? No idea

obsidian wing
#

Genestealers could work in other planets within the Atoma sector

copper cliff
#

that's what I was thinking

#

different planet with genestealers

minor lance
obsidian wing
#

Or some other chaos gods as well

copper cliff
#

Skaven are Americans

minor lance
#

I say this as a brit.

#

Let's not start that.

celest dome
#

I prefer if the enemy roster work together, as they can compliment each other rather than having to do it from the start each time

obsidian wing
#

Yeah Ikit Claw nuked Nippon twice

copper cliff
#

they may live in fantasy greece but!

#

sigmar fears unbreakable loyal skaven army

obsidian wing
#

Loyal and unbreakable you cannot find both or either in a skaven

copper cliff
#

that's why it would be feared

#

I need to make a warhammer 3 mod

#

all skaven units unbreakable

#

all lords loyal

celest dome
copper cliff
#

clan mors are freaks

#

Unironically though I think skaven on 40k scale could be pretty terrifying conceptually. Imagine a scene where someone is describing a planet as barren only to realize its not the terrain their seeing but quadrillions of rats covering continents

minor lance
#

But honestly, Imperium does kinda fill most of Skaven's niche

celest dome
#

Yes, the IoM are the Skaven of 40k
Numerous
Dirty
Close to none empathy for each others
Paranoia
Tech they half understand
genetic modifications...

minor lance
#

Don't forget about the backstabbing and the cannibalism

#

Like

#

I also want 40K Skaven

celest dome
minor lance
copper cliff
#

Imperium don't have the same energy

#

Imperium is sad

#

Skaven are endearing

minor lance
#

Don't forget the diehard worshipping of a cannibalistic god

minor lance
copper cliff
#

Yeah but funny rat man say word twice

minor lance
#

Y'know what

#

Fair point.

#

40K skaven pls thank

copper cliff
#

I guess I just want the Imperium to be more like Saltzpyre in terms of energy

#

Its all a little too serious sometimes

minor lance
#

Tbf

#

Saltz is VERY serious

celest dome
#

I don't think I need any other Faction (For 40k TT) to be honest.

Maybe the Exodites to be updated but other than that

copper cliff
#

He's serious in his character but AS a character he is very funny

minor lance
#

Guy did kill a child (and a lot of innocents alongside) under suspicion of vampirism

copper cliff
#

but that's like saying cartman is a serious portrayal because he fed a kid his parents

#

cartoonish violence

celest dome
minor lance
#

I'd say the context is different, but fair.

minor lance
#

But he did knowingly kill a lot of innocents because he knew that it'd guarantee the death of the guilty

copper cliff
#

context is different but my point is they're both cartoonish portrayals of heinous people

#

And I think the imperium could be a bit more cartoonish

minor lance
#

fair

celest dome
copper cliff
#

Saltzpyre is fucking psychotic

#

Unreliable narrator

#

I love him

dusk patrol
#

The important thing is it haunted him

copper cliff
#

He wanted to be a steamtank pilot

minor lance
dusk patrol
#

That’s just being a human in Warhammer Fantasy

crisp heath
#

I heard

#

warhammer fantasy

near hedge
#

yeah age of sigmar is pretty interesting

crisp heath
#

yes.

#

i agree.

#

My favorite faction is soulblight gravelords.

near hedge
#

I really like the bonereapers

crisp heath
#

nice

#

im just a sucker for vampires.

celest dome
#

I like the Kharadron and what they did to chaos.

Though I dislike the cow elf and the Fyre Slayer

near hedge
#

vamps are pretty cool but them old skellie models 🥺

crisp heath
#

oh also

#

i love stormcaste lore.

#

I really hope we get an AoS video game soon

#

a good one, that is.

near hedge
#

Total Warhammer ends to welcome in...

#

THE AGE OF SIGMAR

#

an Oathbound RPG would be interesting

copper cliff
#

UGH SUGMAR DICK

copper cliff
#

BY THE HAMMER AND THE EMPIRE

crisp heath
#

Soulbound is very fun

near hedge
#

I'm so stupid in forgetting it's SOULbound lol

copper cliff
#

I just want a skaven video game

#

Like spore

#

But with rat

near hedge
#

well I got a mobile game for you!!!

crisp heath
#

me listening to 2pac while playing Empire in Total War

near hedge
#

Stormcast are pretty cool but I think the sky dwarfs (patent pending) in a game would be neat

crisp heath
#

ye

#

I also love Warriors of Chaos

#

specifically the humans.

near hedge
#

lot of factions in sigmar is quite cool twists on their original incarnation overall

crisp heath
#

ye

#

i also LOVE daughters of khaine

#

And Seraphon.

#

Granted i like daughters of khaine because lesbian

near hedge
#

kinda hoping we get a nu-tomb kings or something in AoS tbh 😔

crisp heath
#

also like tzeentch

#

favorite chaos god.

near hedge
#

Nurgle girl me

#

It's why I cry when playing Darktide

copper cliff
#

Grandfather nurgle is definitely the kindest of the chaos gods

crisp heath
#

mmm no.

#

None of them are "kind"

copper cliff
#

I said kindest not kind

crisp heath
#

nurgle just gives you stolkhome syndrome.

copper cliff
#

Its called relativism

#

But I'd much rather be serving nurgle than khorne

#

Khorne just gonna give me a hate boner. At least with Nurgle I'm constantly high

crisp heath
#

you say this now.

near hedge
#

dude did twist the mind of festus into being a plague boy

celest dome
#

Hate boner or std

I'm taking hate boner

copper cliff
#

Slaanesh will do weird 70s SA shit

#

Khorne will make you really mad all the time

#

Tzeentch will do whatever the fuck vilitch is

#

Nurgle will make you gross but also happy

crisp heath
#

all around

copper cliff
#

Im already gross

crisp heath
#

slaanesh, worst deal

#

Tzeentch after

#

Khorne and Nurgle are the ones really being debated

#

it just depends how you want to feel.

#

and if you will feel that way.

#

nurgle can ALSO make you feel super fucking depressed

copper cliff
#

Problem with Khorne is there is no neutral state

crisp heath
#

remind you.

copper cliff
#

You always have to be murdering or else you fucking die

near hedge
#

I think 1 thing I liked about nurgle is one story told about a guard who was left loose on a nurgle ship and overtime he fell to disease

crisp heath
#

im tryna figure out what to play

near hedge
#

lost all his teeth, skin falling apart

#

he stared in the mirror

crisp heath
#

battlefleet gothic or vermintide.

near hedge
#

and loved it

copper cliff
#

it doesn't help khorne also sucks as a faction

#

I like BIG CANNONS

near hedge
copper cliff
#

I like GUNS

#

Khorne is just axes and swords

#

Which can be cool but I want variety

crisp heath
#

wrong.

#

Bloodpact.

crisp heath
copper cliff
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Yeah but what about when I become a daemon huh!

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WHAT THEN

dusk patrol
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You beat stuff up

crisp heath
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chances of that are one in a literal billion

dusk patrol
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With big axes

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copper cliff
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Bruh this is all fictional

dusk patrol
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There’s quadrillions of humans in 40k

copper cliff
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I'm saying hypothetically

crisp heath
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wierd take but

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i wish tyranids

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were more monstery

copper cliff
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I wish tyranids

crisp heath
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like dont give them guns

copper cliff
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were not xenomorphs

dusk patrol
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The Gaunts holding guns does always look funny

copper cliff
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tbf they're just adapting to the extreme shootouts of the 41st millenium

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if they went to the wild west they'd grow revolvers out their asses

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But I think it'd be better if they like shot spines or something instead of guns

gray mulch
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Not usually what people mean when they say "become a daemon" but it still counts

dusk patrol
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In walks the Gunslinger, with a big iron on his hip

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In walks the outlaw, whose aim is about to slip

copper cliff
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Parry this you fucking xeno

dusk patrol
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techno orchestral ecstasy of gold remix starts

copper cliff
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ngl I feel like tyranids are aesthetically a little bland.

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Its like: Hey ya like zerg and xenomorphs? Well we got those kinda

dusk patrol
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It’s their deal

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Not for everyone

copper cliff
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I like the aesthetic but I can't get over those BULBOUS heads

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fellas look like megamind

storm jungle
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Nah

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thats the Delaque mini

copper cliff
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boythehellboy

final spruce
storm jungle
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No Necromunda?

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👁️

copper cliff
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No sisters of battle?

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copper cliff
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Sometimes tyranids look really cool