Unless it’s twisted helix or hive cult
#40k-lore-chat
rose thorn
Those aren’t as good
But not the worst
Twisted helix being ran by literal mad scientists
And hive cult bekng a gang military regime
winter depot
FUN FACT: There were AI's that sided with humanity during the war, and there are a few still running around. I think the Admech has a ship that has an old AI on it that tolerates them.
Necrons seem like fun, if you are a Necron and have a mind.
And a chaos world is alright depending on a few things.
rose thorn
I believe an imperial AI needs to be almost completely controlled by a person
Or the AI needs to pretend to be stupid
Or be stupid
covert geyser
orks seem to be having a great time
winter depot
Orks are the happiest. THis is what they want.
covert geyser
FUN FACT: There were AI's that sided with humanity during the war, and there are...
wasn't there one that nearly killed an entire squad of marines like nothing but just decided to let them go and drift off into space
winter depot
wasn't there one that nearly killed an entire squad of marines like nothing but ...
Probably. Iron men are weird like that.
covert geyser
no i think it was a ship ai
like, it locked up their power armor and they were completely helpless
winter depot
Thought the Ironmen were just another word for the AIs
royal mica
if i remember, the issue is that human AIs were so advanced they actually got corrupted by chaos. Not in the tentacles and screaming mouths and all, but drove them insane and pushed them to wipe out humanity.
covert geyser
i thought men of iron were specifically the ones with mechanical bodies
winter depot
if i remember, the issue is that human AIs were so advanced they actually got co...
I don't think so? Chaos wasn't doing much at the time, and they didn't pay much attention to nonwarp-footprint races.
Think it was the old robo-superiority complex.
royal mica
wasn't there one that nearly killed an entire squad of marines like nothing but ...
said book was the "Death of Integrity"
Ship was pre dark age space ship that got lost in the warp and emerged into current timeline. AI was perfectly fine, as were the people with it, but when they ran into adeptus ship they went crazy and killed the people on the ship and the ships AI took off getting stuck in a hulk and the trips through the warp slowly drove it crazy, not to mention the hate it felt to the imperium for what they did. especially souring it was it and the crew were trying to warn them about some terrible thing happening in he future (they came out a short time much further ahead)
covert geyser
ahh
royal mica
thats just it, the ai were advanced enough they could be effected by chaos, the ironmen thing happened about the same time as the birth of slaanesh
covert geyser
am i the only one that thought slaanesh was born in pre-historic times and not in the future
covert geyser
the eldar just feel so old to me that it feels weird that we were a space fairing race when they got their shit kicked in
royal mica
khorne was birthed by all the actions of Ghengis khan (who then made him into a daemon prince)
Chaos gods arent a part of linear time, one might only come into existence in m45, but because of the nature of the warp could still exist back in m10
remember, m40 is 40000 years.
Eldar would measure time more in the Millions
m1 is the start of the human era, bout 60 million years ago was the start of the necrons hibernation, and the eldar were the biggest things around
covert geyser
wait, legit that khorne was created by ghengis khan?
royal mica
yup
covert geyser
huh
royal mica
through everything hr did and commanded through china and all there
covert geyser
of all the wars that were fought, that guy was the one that finally made the dude
royal mica
not just war, but how he went about it, means, method, scale, there had been wars, but in the why GK fought coalesced into what would be Khorne.
way not why. fug. i need sleep:T
winter depot
No, they changed that lore.
covert geyser
yeah but the war in heaven was millions of years prior iirc and that was wayy bigger
winter depot
Chaos more or less popped in due to the Necrons fighting the Old ones now.
royal mica
it was, but at that time the warp wasnt really the warp, it only got so twisted and fucked up with the Necrons super weapons and the deaths of the old ones throwing off all sorts of shockwaves and such
winter depot
Yes, but I am saying it was not humans that caused any of the chaos gods to spawn in. The lore got changed when 40k became more popular.
I mean, Eldar made one, but that's it. No one else can really claim to be the source of one of them.
Also, Eldar are the cause of most of 40k's issues. fite me
winter depot
Squats bring me so much joy
If I did not already have a few armies, I might have picked a few up.
outer mirage
Also, Eldar are the cause of most of 40k's issues. fite me
And here I was under the impression it was the ancient, malicious gods who feed on pain and despair.
winter depot
We'd have one less if they weren't such jerks.
rose thorn
I love that night lords are basically the exact same as drukhari
It’s super fucking funny
untold sleet
Someone earlier ways saying that the Orks are the good guys.
I think they meant the Krork.
lucid sierra
silk valve
I am really excited to see this game, but also really concerned when I see the the existence of premium currency.
I hope there will be no pay to advanced in this
tawdry escarp
All future story content will be free. Some cosmetics will be paid and additional classes might be
nocturne jetty
So we will have Split? Diffrent Psyker classes and Vets
low juniper
With how Vermintide was.....I trust Fatshark for now on Darktide. The Vermintide series was well beloved, and didn't have a excessive currency system in game.
celest dome
So we will have Split? Diffrent Psyker classes and Vets
At the moment no, launch will hve only 1 class per Archetype, but there might be additional classes down the line
shadow plover
more like squats were part of votann
plush mason
ofc the squats where likely just misunderstood Votann
so i guess its now canon that the squats are the men of stone
plush mason
lmao
next willow
Votann are squats in that squats is repurposed as an outside name for them
the ironhead squats on necromunda are the only known offshoot of them that actually call themselves squats rather than consider it as a low level slur.
the ironheads were a prospect fleet that split off after the horus heresy to find their fortune rebuilding necromunda and doing stuff there. so roughly ten thousand years isolated from Leagues of Votann culture.
obsidian wing
according to lore it's ww1 that birthed khorne, not genghis khan
shadow plover
I'm pretty sure I've seen it mentioned that khorne was the first to awaken of the big 4 some time during the middle ages
and even that feels odd being that young
plush mason
i remember reading that khorne nurgle and tzeetch where made by the old ones to help them use the power of the realm of souls but after the war in heaven they more or less went crazy and became the dark gods we know today
so in short
GW cant make up its mind on how old the 3 OG chaos gods are lol
alpine pecan
i remember reading that khorne nurgle and tzeetch where made by the old ones to ...
what about slannesh xD
plush mason
it was made by the eldar
alpine pecan
oh ok im not realy into 40k so far only have played fantasy and age of sigmar
plush mason
slannesh is the one chaos god whom's origins are well known
plush mason
oh ok im not realy into 40k so far only have played fantasy and age of sigmar
in 40k slannesh was literally murder fucked into existence by the eldar's galaxy wide orgy of sex and death
noble relic
It's a funny one too, because Drach'nyen was born from the first murder (which in its memories seems to be basically Cain and Abel lol) so that would make it older than the gods... probably done deliberately to keep us all guessing 🙂
alpine pecan
in 40k slannesh was literally murder fucked into existence by the eldar's galaxy...
lol so they literraly fucked a god into exicstence
plush mason
yes
alpine pecan
and then got purged by their own god if i understand it right that eldar nearly doesnt exist anymore
plush mason
yup
shadow plover
well debaucheried it to existence
alpine pecan
thats a funny story i realy need more into 40k lore
plush mason
it was the birth of slannesh that doomed humanity as well
alpine pecan
read more* (sorry for some weird texts im still kinda high from anesthesia xD )
next willow
so the drachniyen first murder is the first human murder. it's not explicitly cain and abel
noble relic
To be honest I quite like how the birth of the gods kinda tracks how civilization progresses, starting with barbarism and physical struggles (Khorne) and ending up in luxury and debauchery (Slaanesh) haha
plush mason
i still hella doubt that any of the gods where made by humans tho
noble relic
so the drachniyen first murder is the first human murder. it's not explicitly ca...
I know, and it never specifically says that but when it recalls it, it's basically the same story, a primitive brother murdering his sibling over jealousy etc (again just to keep us guessing :))
obsidian wing
the first who emerged was nurgle and its always nurgle btw
hes the oldest since life and death is
plush mason
cause it took the eldar years of just flat out anarchy to make slannesh and they have a way more massive presence in the warp than the humans ever will
alpine pecan
Can someone of you recommend me a good 40k book to start with i Do kinda like belakor, khorne or orks from the 40k universe
shadow plover
I feel the three original gods are pretty much just demons that got powerful enough in time to be perceived as gods, much like the emperor
obsidian wing
chaos gods are the same with the ones from aos and wfb
plush mason
hell the emperor's own origins are still hotly debated
obsidian wing
they are multiversal and interdimensional/multidimensional beings
noble relic
hell the emperor's own origins are still hotly debated
At least we know his real name now lol... or at least what it was for a while
near hedge
Yes-Yes, All Chaos-Warp Gods the same!
plush mason
At least we know his real name now lol... or at least what it was for a while
what was it?
noble relic
what was it?
Neoth 🙂
celest dome
Nah, it's Jimmy Space
obsidian wing
yeah what i meant the original four ofc, but who knows maybe the great horned rat will be ported to 40k by gw in the future
celest dome
No real name given is the real one. As we know he is Saint Michelle too (The one with the Dragon
next willow
I know, and it never specifically says that but when it recalls it, it's basical...
like back when master of mankind came out i had to have a slightly heated conversation about how someone misarchived in their memories an early brotherkilling as "it was stated as cain/abel", but it doesn't actually say that. just that it is a brotherslaying, and with a spear.
plush mason
plush mason
like back when master of mankind came out i had to have a slightly heated conver...
with a spear?
noble relic
like back when master of mankind came out i had to have a slightly heated conver...
exactly, that's my point, they'd never relate anything the a bible story but they always lay things out in a way to keep us guessing on loads of things
obsidian wing
st. george and dragon, its the void dragon hidden in mars
plush mason
lmao
noble relic
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/vcxajn/i_dont_think_neoth_is_the_emper...
The Primarchs' "mother" said that was his name for a while and she had no reason to lie so I'm not thinking about it too much 🙂
plush mason
exactly, that's my point, they'd never relate anything the a bible story but the...
if it states the weapon used was a spear then it can not be the story of cain and able
next willow
with a spear?
yeah. the description of drach's memories of the event that made him, there were hands on a spear killing the brother.
plush mason
as cain used a rock to crush able's skull
obsidian wing
well the emperor took different names and identities throughout his life hiding among humanity for thousands of years
next willow
cain is killed either with the jawbone of an ass or a stone, depending on the tradition
or a knife
obsidian wing
and i think he'll never reveal his true name since in warhammer, names have power
plush mason
ye
noble relic
if it states the weapon used was a spear then it can not be the story of cain an...
Exactly, I said it was basically the same story, I didn't say it was it 🙂
near hedge
His name is Greg
obsidian wing
speak the name of a daemon the right way and technically it's your slave
but who knows down the line GW might reveal it in one of BL's novels
sage finch
Debate: Is the ogre sex scene lore accurate?
plush mason
i dont want to know
dreamy junco
lemme ask you this, what memorable things did Ferrus Manus do?
cunning wigeon
die
dreamy junco
yeah
plush mason
just like his legion kekw
the whole of the iron hands could just die off instantly and nothing would change
strange rose
So why aren't the deathguard involved in this conflict? Seems like something they'd be eager to waddle into.
elfin nexus
Debate: Is the ogre sex scene lore accurate?
Wat.
plush mason
So why aren't the deathguard involved in this conflict? Seems like something the...
deathguard have to be summoned to a world and even then only very important stuff can gain their attention
so they likely dont see atoma as worth their time
celest dome
So why aren't the deathguard involved in this conflict? Seems like something the...
Space is very big, and Atoma is to unimportant it seem (Basically FS didn't want them)
strange rose
Isn't atoma a major manufactora hive?
plush mason
not very major no
celest dome
For it's area, maybe but for the Sector/IoM not at all
strange rose
Ahhh. Gotcha.
azure fossil
Did anyone else unlock the Ogryn sex scene
strange rose
I thought I read into it being more important than it was.
vocal oxide
Did anyone else unlock the Ogryn sex scene
Been grinding to get it for hours.
plush mason
yeah the imperium can lose this planet if it has to but it doesnt really want to rn
strange rose
where can I download the hot recaff mod.
this is during the era indomitus isn't it? Around the same time as the plague wars?
dusk carbon
So is this Vermintide 3: Rats in Space?
storm jungle
So is this Vermintide 3: Rats in Space?
It's a horde shooter so yeah.
arctic swallow
So is this Vermintide 3: Rats in Space?
Sadly, no rats in space
strange rose
Space skaven would be horrifying
arctic swallow
Space Skaven would honestly go so hard
vast rain
Sadly, no rats in space
That's whay they want you to think
floral remnant
Space skaven would be horrifying
THey're called tyranids
sweet terrace
they are called people who play tau in tabletop
arctic swallow
Sad!!!
strange rose
laughs in massed gauss flayers
storm jungle
not literally
either way lol
vast rain
Sadly, no rats in space
sweet terrace
i was commenting on the players
storm jungle
I mean, whats wrong with them
sweet terrace
they are playing tau
storm jungle
So?
mortal lance
Tau are cool and good
vast rain
Man got a vendetta against the Tau
storm jungle
I hate space marines but I don't hate their players 
dusk carbon
Is the queue moving for you fellas?
arctic swallow
Oh boy I sure can’t wait to take my daily walk near the sewer entrance, I am so thankful that giant rat people do not exist
sweet terrace
Man got a vendetta against the Tau
they are my favorite in DOW UA
arctic swallow
The giant rat people in question: 
strange rose
I'd play space skaven tbh
sweet terrace
also unification mod tau are fun
strange rose
Though I think genestealer cults probably play a lot like they would anyway
vast rain
My queue went down about 5 mins ago but its stuck now
Keep queue talk out of here
We don't want slow mode
azure fossil
Someone asked 💀
vast rain
Oh
keen pasture
to be fair it was getting spammed
vast rain
I can definitely understand the slow mode
sharp vapor
:d
native wren
which primarch has the biggest shlong
Vulcan
upbeat quiver
is it A) Ferrus Manus
upbeat quiver
pr B) whys it Ferrus Manus
vast rain
Vulcan
upbeat quiver
i bet he'd like to show you his Iron Hand
sweet terrace
his disappearance is related to his weiner
dusk carbon
Skaven when they have to make air tight vehicles for space and not just scraps of iron welded and bolted together.
strange rose
sweet terrace
Skaven when they have to make air tight vehicles for space and not just scraps o...
poor ogryn
upbeat quiver
A hand is not a penis
thats what he wants you to think
keen pasture
It is made of living metal, so it can technically shapeshift
vast rain
Skaven when they have to make air tight vehicles for space and not just scraps o...
The skaven when they are no longer the only faction that doesn't give a shit about their infantry
sharp vapor
vast rain
Who is the coolest space marine in all of 40k
tawdry fog
Draigo
celest dome
Humanity would be better of by culling them all
They are statistically more prone to falling to chaos
plush mason
that is true
kind warren
i cant create my hero
plush mason
cadia was a fort world right?
storm jungle
Fortress World yeah
celest dome
Yes
plush mason
thanks
barren tapir
Oh FFS, cannot believe we have slowmode for 15 mins in more than general channel FFS
celest dome
Pls, stop, we don't want to derail this one too and cause more slowmode
The Eye of terror is very pretty at this time of the year
Nothing to see here wardens
barren tapir
Hey Cacti, i will never try to cause harm to this hallowed channel... Just had to vent a bit...
celest dome
Always better to be careful, the Inquisitor is very twitchy with the Slowhammer
pseudo stirrup
So if I am not mistaken, the Psyker here in Darktide is - lore wise speaking - super weak, right?
sleek wigeon
So if I am not mistaken, the Psyker here in Darktide is - lore wise speaking - s...
heavily, heavily nerfed from lore psykers, yes
speaking of, im hoping we get some lore in subclasses
Redemptionist Zealot with a focus on flamers and DoT, firebombs and something akin to Unchained's living bomb for a class skill?
celest dome
So if I am not mistaken, the Psyker here in Darktide is - lore wise speaking - s...
Psyker we get on the TT are usually Delta to Alpha +
And in the lore we follow mostly Alpha to Alpha +
We follow people from Gama to Delta most likely
pseudo stirrup
Not a complaint; you wouldn't send a good psyker on a low-level mission
Just wondering
But what could a good psyker do, power wise? Not the best, just... good?
trail knot
Faster brain burst 😆
pseudo stirrup
lunar mauve
alpha class psykers are supposed to be able to mind control and kill en masse
pseudo stirrup
Yeah like wouldn't a higher tier psyker just like wipe an entire batallion of units?
pseudo stirrup
Of course, I was wondering in general.
Again, you wouldn't waste a good psyker on such a mission.
lunar mauve
theyre either recruited young or very heavily imprisoned
pseudo stirrup
I assume this guy is about a step up from a psyker sent to Big E for food
To be fair, when it first launched, it was being spammed despite the 15 min slow mode
coarse mirage
The beta forum link the bot spams in general chat.
Never preorder.
Especially if you refund over a closed beta.
fair current
Have any of you unlocked the plasma gun on Veteran?
sudden kelp
anyone got background on these planets?
unique berry
Get out of this channel with the beta stuff we dont need another channel with slow mode
fair current
This is the only channel where a conversation can be held
unique berry
And if u gonna continue with the beta talk u wont be able to talk in any channel so stop it ffs
unique berry
Its not your question its just they spammed every channel and it always the same stuff just asking and no answers the 15min slow mode is there so they dont ask the same shit every second but they cant read
And sry if I sounded hostile its just annoying
fair current
I know how you feel, there are some interesting people on this server for sure.
storm jungle
anyone got background on these planets?
They are all homebrew for the native Moebian Sector where the game takes place.
Minus Cadia which is just a pile of rocks 
sudden kelp
ah oh thanks! Yeah seeing Cadia I figured the rest were part of the larger canon.
storm jungle
ah oh thanks! Yeah seeing Cadia I figured the rest were part of the larger canon...
Yeah any that mentions the Moebian in their description is homebrew for the game.
as far as I can tell i think Cadia is the only big name one on the list
rose thorn
What‘a your favorite chaos knight house
true sentinel
15 minutes a stupidly long time to slow mo
unique berry
No it has a reason
hexed lily
cope
barren tapir
What‘a your favorite chaos knight house
The dead/destroyed ones
atomic pelican
Timer should just be on general where spam lays. Impossible to have an actual conversation now
Wait its not here
Is it just memes and general
barren tapir
The first channel of each category has been hit by the slowhammer sadly
elder hinge
Why does my special attack not work, you need a special mouse for this. Cant get past tutorial
storm jungle
Why does my special attack not work, you need a special mouse for this. Cant get...
Just change the keys.
storm jungle
Is it just memes and general
Basically people wont stop turning general into twitch-chat
and now its bleeding into other channels
atomic pelican
😂
chilly lichen
unique berry
Again
rose thorn
Is it just memes and general
Oh yeah I forgot general exists lmao
chilly lichen
curious if my old 2070 laptop can handle the game
elder hinge
Just change the keys.
I tried looking for it under the settings tab, cant find it
coarse mirage
Hmmmmmm
cold parrot
elder hinge
ohh found it, thx
crisp heath
I've never seen Female Ogryn before
storm jungle
I've never seen Female Ogryn before
They exist in the lore
just not in the game since they dont really exist in miniature format, so not exactly advertisable for GW's end
storm jungle
yeah theres like 3 mentions of them in lore
the ghazghull one is the most recent
and is a psyker
yeee
atomic pelican
Yeee
crisp heath
psyker ogryn?
atomic pelican
Love the rift shaking up stuff. Think it tilts ppl to see a ogryn who just isnt mestrong tier intelligence
crisp heath
yeeee?
storm jungle
psyker ogryn?
Its basically an Ogryn whos a Psyker
very intense stuff
like, hard to grasp i know
atomic pelican
The Great Rift changed alot. Shes as intelligent as a human and a psyker
crisp heath
Are you going to tell me they even take baths next?
crisp heath
By the throne world
I’ve not been this eye opening since Magnus’ little study group session
coarse mirage
The Great Rift changed alot. Shes as intelligent as a human and a psyker
She pretty 
unique berry
Pretty ugly
untold silo
I have a very specific lore question, and I'm hoping one of the writers is around. The Mourningstar, just by kinda roughly gauging distances, am I right in assuming this is a frigate or, at longest, a light cruiser?
prime tapir
Have we ever seen its silhouette?
It’s hard to determine its size with only interior views, and most of the pathways lead to shut doors. I reckon it’s a rather big class of ship (or station) given that it havent been shot out of the sky by planetary defense batteries yet.
prime tapir
Additionally, when spending time inside the mourningstar we get reports about ships docking with the the vessel. Typically only large void vessels have hangar bays.
tawdry wyvern
thats the mourningstar
but not sure what class that is, doesn't look like its a big one though
prime tapir
Looks like a frigate then
tawdry wyvern
think so too. I mean, its not like its a small ship, they are still pretty huge, big enough for the purposes of an inquisitor
untold silo
Sword Class Frigate
MAYBE a Cobra, depends on loadout
Called it, and it still looks huge lmao
The "escorts" are still 3/4 a kilometer long lmao
Man I love this universe and its ridiculous scale.
tawdry wyvern
looks more like claymore or firestorm imo. but either way, thing is more than 1km long. A typical rogue trader has similar ships under his command, and is typically equipped with hangar bays
prime tapir
And these ships are held together by space duct-tape
Here's the loading mechanism for a torpedo bay, it'd be hilarious if it was not so fucked up.
tawdry wyvern
classic grimderp moment
worn cargo
https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-trash-can-hide-jump-to-trash-gif-12324630
Still relevant
Even moreso after this gameplay
covert geyser
Love the rift shaking up stuff. Think it tilts ppl to see a ogryn who just isnt ...
i do appreciate that they didn't make ogryns like shoving crayons up nose level of stupid
neat pawn
Maybe the player Ogryn are bone'eads. sort of. atleast, they're close enough to be promoted as one
worn cargo
Maybe the player Ogryn are bone'eads. sort of. atleast, they're close enough to ...
Was there no bone’ead?
Also no they ain’t that dumb in game
neat pawn
maybe later we'll get a bone'ead skin we could use. Well, they have enough intelligence to know who to hit.. usually.
plush mason
Maybe the player Ogryn are bone'eads. sort of. atleast, they're close enough to ...
they are not. in fact the ogryn will even say he needs to become one in mission sometimes
thick aspen
what size are ogryns balls in the lore
alpine ingot
how about, you don't spam shit.
unique berry
Leave the channel alone we dont need amother one with slow mode u apes
torpid marsh
what size are ogryns balls in the lore
About the head of your mom
mossy mortar
i do appreciate that they didn't make ogryns like shoving crayons up nose level ...
They should be
rose thorn
Hey what are genestealer cult Ogryn like actaulky?
covert geyser
idk if there is any lore for genestealer ogryn
plush mason
do ogryn wear helmets normally?
celest dome
Rarely, they are often claustrophobic so they dislike those
plush mason
makes sense
supple plume
Rarely, they are often claustrophobic so they dislike those
Yea getting them into a chimera Is harder than making them charge a heavily fortified position
plush mason
explains why they look so uncomfortable in the valk loading screen lol
high plover
What’s an Ogryn’s happy place
hybrid estuary
The OB-GRYN's doctor's office.
celest dome
Would most likely depend on the Ogryn
upbeat dragon
who is the psyker's beloved? a warp entity?
celest dome
Doesn't this look like a Khornate symbol
woven sandal
Don't look too far into those symbols. The Chaos symbols are very specific. Skull Castle over here is not the symbol of Khorne.
plush mason
yeah the imperium actually uses that symbol oddly enough lol
ofc many of the imperial cults are more or less heretical or near about lol
btw what are these collars the psykers are wearing?
dusk knot
isn't that a space marine legion?
halcyon blade
who is the psyker's beloved? a warp entity?
It's how the Seer personality Psyker calls the Emperor.
upbeat dragon
he doesnt really talk with the emperor right?
halcyon blade
he doesnt really talk with the emperor right?
Probably not. The Seers are the craziest out of all Psyker personalities. They are convinced they are dreaming the entire time as well and are hearing the voice of their "Beloved" i.e. the Emperor.
You can read about it in the dev blog talking about the voice acting in the game.
plush mason
lmao
delicate crow
If a mere mortal would want to get an idea of the 40k lore, but is not interested in reading all the books; where would he start? Are there any videos summarizing the lore?
scarlet wagon
btw what are these collars the psykers are wearing?
I think these are explody last resort collars, because sometimes it's better to blow off an allies head instead of them turning into a portal through which legions of daemons start an invasion
ripe ravine
If a mere mortal would want to get an idea of the 40k lore, but is not intereste...
i've heard good things about luetin09 and oculus imperia
worth mentioning that if you're mainly put off by all the novel reading the edition rulebooks and faction codexes have a lot of awesome summarized written lore
mild hill
id recommend luetin09 aswell
ripe ravine
if you're not willing to invest time in an hour+ long youtube video, Templin Institute has a few excellent bite sized subfaction overviews
plush mason
so when you pick the shrineguard option it talks about some called "the bloody throne". any idea what that is?
crisp heath
What's the deal with Dark Eldar's dna copied Emperor of Man?
ripe ravine
so when you pick the shrineguard option it talks about some called "the bloody t...
I don't believe its been previously referenced anywhere else (could be wrong), but it's most likely a local trial for crusaders. most likely involving a lot of blood and pain
to prove the purity of their faith
the church is mega-paranoid about infiltrators
ripe ravine
What's the deal with Dark Eldar's dna copied Emperor of Man?
those are plot details to a book that came out a few months ago. I don't want to discuss it in detail, but they don't have one
it has to do with the golden throne's purpose and problems in comorragh
crisp heath
Thx king
storm jungle
What's the deal with Dark Eldar's dna copied Emperor of Man?
1 sec i got u fam
Pretty much the entire summary of the events in the book, hope it helps
but as Draik said it isnt a HUGE thing atm since it just takes place in this single novel
ripe ravine
it's one of those wait wtf moments for sure but who knows if/when we'll see any payoff
I'd wait until you feel like you have at least a basic understanding of the setting but I cannot recommend Vaults of Terra enough
great trilogy
awesome up close perspective of Terra
crisp heath
Thanks king!
plush mason
is there a reason for the extra eye colors if you pick cadia as your homeworld?
mild hill
Cadia was near the rift between realspace and the warp called "The Eye of Terror" so its inhabitants may develop purple eyes due to being so close
mild hill
I dont think this is concerete fact but it may be due to the Eye being visible at night and maybe other times so you may get the purple eyes by staring into it too much or by a side effect of just living there
like I said im not too sure though
rose thorn
So how much xenos tech are space marines chapters allowed to use before they get a knocking on their door?
Not counting death watch
vocal tapir
What's the deal with Dark Eldar's dna copied Emperor of Man?
Spoiler for: The Dark City
||It didn't happen. Custodians on site destroyed any lingering material they would have tried to use before they had it.||
plush mason
So how much xenos tech are space marines chapters allowed to use before they get...
afaik it depends
SMs have a lot of freedom normally and many of the older chapters have vast vaults of old tech and wargear
rose thorn
Considering the chapter master of the space wolves had an (axe?) with a fucking demon in it I’m not sure what the standards are
plush mason
there are none basically
celest dome
As always with the Inquisition, it depend on who the closest Inquisitor ls.
plush mason
ye
celest dome
Some are very twitchy and hard on rules (Puritan) while other are much more lax and see the advantages of using them. Forgot the name though
Inquisitor Martyr use it for their system
vocal tapir
Considering the chapter master of the space wolves had an (axe?) with a fucking ...
That's not Xenos weaponry it's heretical weaponry, Supposedly sanctified.
plush mason
Some are very twitchy and hard on rules (Puritan) while other are much more lax ...
radicals
vocal tapir
Xenos would be like using the Necron phase blades.
rose thorn
That's not Xenos weaponry it's heretical weaponry, Supposedly sanctified.
Nah he just stole it for a grey knight he killed lmao
plush mason
radical inquisitors afaik more or less have one foot on the side of heresy
rose thorn
God the months of shame still Piss me off
celest dome
radical inquisitors afaik more or less have one foot on the side of heresy
Everyone is someone's heretic
plush mason
true
celest dome
And even in those philosophies you then have sub-philosophies , and conclaves who are more political minded and will leave a SM chapter alone in exchange for their help when requested (Meaning, while the Inquisition doesn't truly have any hard power, they have a metric ton of soft power, and a lot of allies that can act as hard power)
royal coral
Who would be treated worse, heretic or xenos?
plush mason
by the inquisition?
again it depends on the inquisitor in question and their ordo and philosophical views
celest dome
On average i would say Heretic if they are found to be real chaos worshippers
mild pelican
A heretic can at least pass for a regular imperial citizen at a glance. An alien will be treated with hostility by everybody
ripe ravine
there are extraordinary circumstances, like the scavenger station Precipice near the Blackstone Fortress. rogue traders and criminal scum tolerated xenos presence there as long as it wasn't antagonistic while heretics were still reviled
but that was an uneasy truce and emphasized as highly unusual
atomic pelican
I would say it also wildly depends on the xeno and the individual
Ala Guilliman and gang having rather good relations with the Ynnari
The Imperium as a whole has worked with xenos before. But never really heretics
mild pelican
there are extraordinary circumstances, like the scavenger station Precipice near...
Well Rogue Traders can do whatever the hell they want, just like Inquisitors
ripe ravine
yes it certainly wasn't above board by Imperium law. my point is that there are places on the fringes of Imperial territory, not that many, where limited coexistence with xenos is possible
heretics are only safe if no one knows they're a heretic
mild pelican
I mean... it depends on what you classify as a heretic. The Imperium has divergent cults all over the place but only the ones that become malefic or unprofitable are branded as heretics
And I'd say any place an alien can walk around tolerated by weirdos, you can expect to find at least as many heretics
ripe ravine
I tend to associate the term with a literal servant of the dark gods as opposed to cultists who can belong to various Imperial faith offshoots or something more like chaos
Imperial cultists are everywhere
mild pelican
the Ordo Hereticus would not agree with you 😄
ripe ravine
if we're going by inquisitorial standards, being a heretic is vastly more dangerous than being xenos because you can be accused of heresy for literally anything
and there's no guarantee the inquisition will care enough to investigate whether you're innocent
its easier to hide sure but if you've been accused your old life is basically over
royal coral
I don’t get why the T’au are treated so hostile by the Empire. I get that they do not worship the Emperor, but they are really not a hostile race.
storm jungle
I don’t get why the T’au are treated so hostile by the Empire. I get that they d...
Basically to put it short
the Imperium is super xenophobic
Anything nonhuman is bad
plush mason
ye
storm jungle
They basically are run by humanity's most irrational fears/wants, war and hating things that are different than them being one of them.
The Tau are not super good guys either but the Imperium pretty much hates anyone so
plush mason
hell the only point of the imperium is to be a dark and horrible backdrop onto which the various stories of personal struggle are cast in
at least from the writing side of things
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much
plush mason
so as a whole the imperium is an irredeemable hellscape
minor lance
so as a whole the imperium is an irredeemable hellscape
Yes pretty much.
But that's most of 40K
plush mason
yeah
small vector
AND the golden thron will fail in approx 100 years.
which is not really that long in 40k time
digital niche
Could mean we'd see the rebirth of actual Emperor
minor lance
AND the golden thron will fail in approx 100 years.
which is not really that lo...
Wait, is that from a new codex? Cause the last few codexes are already a few centuries of progression iirc
celest dome
Not entirely sure on that one. Like GW doesn't like moving the setting to much
minor lance
Not entirely sure on that one. Like GW doesn't like moving the setting to much
Who knows. We might see Primaris Megarines if Emps gets off the sparkly toilet.
ripe ravine
it's from vaults of terra
ripe ravine
wouldn't be the first time
also, everyone who knows the throne is so bad off is dead
royal coral
I hope they do not fuck it up, either don’t go that far into the “future” or set it up with proper writing, not like fucking End Times
royal coral
also, everyone who knows the throne is so bad off is dead
Then who knows?
small vector
theylle never fully "end times" 40k
minor lance
40K Endtimes?
small vector
Then who knows?
the reader an no-one else in the imperium
ripe ravine
Then who knows?
the dark eldar
tranquil river
So, what people are saying.. is that the new 40k faction is the dark mechanicus
(for tabletop)
small vector
emprah 2 electric boogaloo would be cool. but i want more loyalist primarchs back and some reckonings between them
lorgar has a very angry bird after him
minor lance
Jokes aside, they'll probably go with the 'Star Child' route or something similar. Use this as an excuse to bring back all the primarchs and such. New crusade.
ripe ravine
could be. short term I think it's more likely we get a dark mechanicum ally for abaddon, but it could be setting up a future army release
tranquil river
A big power jump for all factions would be nifty
minor lance
Like, we're living in a post-Squat timeline
tranquil river
shit's going down
minor lance
Anything is possible
minor lance
Not only that, we're living in a post-squat timeline where they got nerfed before releease. Within like am onth of their codex release. GW is on some weird cocktail of drugs rn
ripe ravine
i'd sure like to see traitor guard get full army support
tranquil river
GW when they aren't able to sell hundreds of models due to making the codex OP before it even releases 😔
minor lance
i'd sure like to see traitor guard get full army support
Honestly, you traitor guards folk deserve it.
small vector
and i want clone-grim back from the pokemon master necron.
imagine the dynamics between clone grim and guilliman and potentiall the lion/vulcan or any returning loyalist
ripe ravine
they got some new models for CSM which is still pretty cool
minor lance
I just realised something
tranquil river
Oh?
minor lance
LoV is the first Xenos race that the Imperium isn't like... Purge-kill-maim
minor lance
Aye, but they're classified as xenos
And considering they're not really born anymore.
tranquil river
I mean, SM/Custodes aren't really human
Votan are just humans that have been turned into something else and made their own society
To heavily simplify things
minor lance
Granted, if the imperium ever had an eeky-peaky inside, the entirety of the cult of mars would colelctively have an aneurysm, but still.
Oh, no, I mean like GW has classified them under Xenos
Alongside Nids, Necrons, Eldar, etc
tranquil river
That's just crunch categorization
ripe ravine
the mechanicum and the leagues are not on great terms anyway
tranquil river
not fluff
ripe ravine
mechanicum always trying to steal their shit
tranquil river
Anywho, I gotta go to work, cheers lore dudes
ripe ravine
don't want to trade, pisses the leagues off
minor lance
the mechanicum and the leagues are not on great terms anyway
To be fair, is the mechanicum on good terms with anyone?
Peace, Emgee
ripe ravine
the leagues are below even the t'au in terms of 'we've got bigger problems' but they're not as aligned as people were expecting
leagues can work as mercenaries for crusades sometimes but they also have plenty of history of conflict with the Imperium
small vector
even tau have had diplomatic interactions with space marines. even ELDAR
its not that far flung especially in todays imperium
minor lance
Oh, I wasn't expecting close. A bunch of closeted, angry, smol beans with firepower to make the rest of the galaxy jealous likely wouldn't get on all too well with the Marsbois
Pretty glad they went the way they did
storm jungle
theylle never fully "end times" 40k
Nothing set in stone
if 40k financially fails GW at some point it will get killed off
its how corporations work
plush mason
ye
plush mason
its why the endtimes happened for fantasy anyway lol
small vector
with one of the most rabid fanbases. and has a SOLID lore around it.
fantasy was also popular but they didnt have near as many lore fans as 40k
plush mason
yeah
small vector
but thats because aos is way more casual
storm jungle
Because thats how you make more money
a hard to enter game like Fantasy was basically a dead end
plush mason
fantasy was sunset due to it's sales revenue dropping before profitable margins afaik
small vector
and also has relatively new models comparatively so all models are dope af
storm jungle
Im not even an AOS fan and even I CAN admit the minis are sexy af
like jesus dude
plush mason
lmao
small vector
i havent seen an aos mini i dont like. and ive got no minis, but 7k of bt and 3k of tau
i just cant do two systems. brain too smooth
ripe ravine
there's more faction balance as well since stormcast didn't really take off as sigmarines
plush mason
thank fuck for that
ripe ravine
I can't deny that fantasy is the way better setting, although aos has gotten a little better than it was during 1st edition
storm jungle
Yeah they did start off that way but Stormcasts are deffo their own thing now
ripe ravine
I meant in terms of playerbase, they aren't pervasive like space marines
matches are a lot more varied
small vector
thanks twwh3 for reviving fantasy
ripe ravine
unless they pull the plug they're planning to do a fantasy prequel game like horus heresy, the old world
probably still a few years away though
its set like 100 years before the endtimes
storm jungle
The old world updates we had so far have been pretty bad
3 years and each time they just
post map
new icon
call it a day
ripe ravine
maps and concept art yeah
plush mason
not very encouraging
ripe ravine
if they're not ready to show off models it could be a while
minor lance
I meant in terms of playerbase, they aren't pervasive like space marines
No Tomb Kings/10
Please, please, I know they weren't popular but I love them,
ripe ravine
some of their faction choices are bewildering for sure
minor lance
As a side note, with the popularity of the Vampirates from TWWH... I'd also like to see them as well
Seems a fun faction on tt
ripe ravine
unfortunately they repurposed enough tomb kings aesthetic for ossiarch bonereapers
that i'm afraid it's a "we have tomb kings at home" situation now
minor lance
unfortunately they repurposed enough tomb kings aesthetic for ossiarch bonereape...
Yeahhh TK are dead.
They were never popular (partially GW's fault, honestly. Didn;'t they only get like... 1 proper codex?") so I don't expect their return, sadly
ripe ravine
that's a common thing with GW. "nobody plays eldar so why should we update their ancient crappy models"
hmmm maybe if their models didn't suck you'd get more sales out of them
atomic pelican
TK return to Old World which is neat
Im mostly interested in Old World for Cathay since wholly new model line
ripe ravine
oh yeah I forgot they just released some TK concept art
atomic pelican
Also dragons
ripe ravine
so maybe new TK models in like a decade lol
atomic pelican
Genuinely so hype, the faction map seems to imply the dragon emperor himself will be a faction
ripe ravine
cathay will be cool, and a fun collaboration between GW and the total war devs
they designed the units for the game together
atomic pelican
GW had already made Cathay before TWW3, CA just referenced their old world army book
minor lance
GW and CA have been kinda fleshing out the old world pretty hard honestly
atomic pelican
So apparently Cathay has some sort of armybook already
ripe ravine
sorry yeah fleshed out their units
minor lance
It's why I'm pretty hopeful for Vampirates on tabletop
I would do terrible things for an undead gunline
atomic pelican
Just hope to god they dont actually revive shitty WHFB rules for Old World and retain what they've learned in AoS and 40k
ripe ravine
people seem to like playing 30k
minor lance
Old World seems to be their "Oh... Oh we kinda messed up... Maybe we should've just changed the rules of WFB instead of nuking the setting. Oops."
atomic pelican
30k is good and is based on 7th which is still more fresh than WHFB
minor lance
So I don't think they'll make that mistake
minor lance
Then why make Old World?
atomic pelican
Because VT and TWW have revived interest
atomic pelican
Well, certainly, but the setting itself wasnt very popular either
minor lance
It's very much a "Oh. Oh it's the rules that sucked. Not the setting"
Since there's enough interest in the setting for them to make a new game... Back in that setting
ripe ravine
we'd probably remember the decision to end WHFB differently if AOS had a better launch
minor lance
Most likely
ripe ravine
they took a big swing with that
atomic pelican
Either way the ending sucked but AoS 1e being better would've helped
now that AoS bangs we've got the hindsight to say it was a great choice
minor lance
In hindsight, yeah but
In hoensty they could havej ust...
Used the AoS rules for WFB and skipped most of AoS's 1e issues
atomic pelican
Honestly this'll probably turn out even better since Old World means every old army will probably get updated
ripe ravine
still wondering what they'll do with chaos
but I guess the slaves to darkness stuff for AOS is fire so you could always play Old World rules in a future setting
minor lance
Honestly this'll probably turn out even better since Old World means every old a...
If this happens, 100% then yeah
Also, not the most popular of opinion but
I'd be fine without chaos
I find chaos kinda bland, tbh
atomic pelican
Chaos works great since they can cross settings
minor lance
Very much a personal take
atomic pelican
They dont rlly have to update anything for them since Slaves to Darkness work fine in either setting
this is where my hype lies
I want an AoStier centerpiece model of Xen Yang
hushed lava
are orks the same in warhammer and 40k?
storm jungle
Yes
celest dome
Kinda. The only difference I know of is that the Orcs are less magical (Gestalt field)
hushed lava
so im looking at minis and they have 40k and horus hersey
can i get an emperor mini in horus hersey
storm jungle
no
celest dome
Not yet at least
storm jungle
Yeah they will 100% make an emperor mini at some point
minor lance
are orks the same in warhammer and 40k?
Yesn't.
There's a lot of differences, but the core is very similar
storm jungle
Fantasy orks are basically just 40 orks
just no guns and are in medieval level of technology
minor lance
The general idea is there, but it's like saying Necrons and Tomb Kings are the same.
celest dome
Well you'll have to tell us the difference because I do not know them
That's not comparable
At least not in the same sense
Other wise we have Empire, IoM
Eldar and High Elf...
minor lance
Basically, the core is the same. Fungus creatures and all. But Greenskisn have no gestalt effecs. So no 'red goes fastah' or getting bigger by being a warboss
celest dome
But Orcs are fungus who hijacked on The Old Ones ship and infected the world
minor lance
Goblins, unlike snotlings, can actually have some level of status. Though it's veeeeeery rare. In fact, one of the most terrifying individual in fantasy was a goblin.
hushed lava
how come fantasy orks are primative coz in 40k depending on how far along they are in a wargg the more orks they have the more tech they get cuz orks learn instinctively
summer tide
a question tomorrow that the test servers d close?
minor lance
Their magic is more shamanistic and far less... My-caster-is-an-improvised-explosive than 40k
And "WAAAGH" is much less of an actual magical thing. It's just them getting really riled up.
celest dome
a question tomorrow that the test servers d close?
On Monday, and wrong channel
hushed lava
like in 40k there are feral orks but thats only because they are far from the warrgg
minor lance
Also, not sure if this is retconned or not, but some Greenskins do a lot of trading.
celest dome
Goblins, unlike snotlings, can actually have some level of status. Though it's v...
Da Red Gobbo ?
minor lance
Not like... A lot a lot, but more than almost 0
hushed lava
so i dont see why fantasy orks cant have guns
minor lance
Da Red Gobbo ?
Red Gobbo is different, but similar to him, yeah
celest dome
Also, not sure if this is retconned or not, but some Greenskins do a lot of trad...
40k Orks have Freeboota
I know you mean Skarsnik (Or Grom)
summer tide
@celest dome ok sorry
minor lance
40k Orks have Freeboota
Oh, yeah, I'm aware. I have a Freebootaz army. I love them. But they only really trade with Orks as far as I'm aware.
celest dome
<@299622096332390402> ok sorry
It's alright but we need to be careful to avoid further slowmodes
hushed lava
so can fantasy orks have a morkanaught?
minor lance
The gist is that fantasy Greenskins are very similar to Orks at their core, but not quite the same overall.
celest dome
The titans ? No, not enough technology
minor lance
so can fantasy orks have a morkanaught?
Sorta? They have uhhh
God what are they called...
Idolz?
celest dome
Rogue Idolz
hushed lava
a gorkanaught?
minor lance
Yeahhhh those.
celest dome
But those are much smaller and are not mechs, they are golems
hushed lava
whats a golem? at totem?
minor lance
Anyway, Greenskins also have a lot of extras like araknarokk (or however it's spelled) and... Honetly most of the differences come in the form of Goblins
hushed lava
in 40k are there goblins?
minor lance
The Orcs/Orks themselves are pretty similar, but infinitely less magic.
Yeah, they're called Snotlings.
They're great.
hushed lava
so there are gretchin in fantasy>'
celest dome
whats a golem? at totem?
Golem are magical automatons
hushed lava
goblins are grots ok
minor lance
There are no snotlings in fantasy. There are squigs though. But instead of suicide bombers, they're goblin mounts.
celest dome
Orcs: Orks
Gobbo: Gretchling
Snotling: Snotling
minor lance
Wait, there are snotlings?
celest dome
Snotling exist in fantasy
celest dome
But are predominantly with the Ogre iirc
celest dome
Or serve menial task instead of fighting
somber umbra
Do any of you have any warhammer lore YouTube channel recommendations?
minor lance
40k or fantasy?
somber umbra
40k
summer tide
It's alright but we need to be careful to avoid further slowmodes
is that I only said that because of the error yesterday and I thought it would end tomorrow
minor lance
Adeptus Ridiculous is rather good, imo.
minor lance
It's very podcasty, and they mostly just read the wiki iirc. But as far as fair, balanced, entertaining? I'd definitely put them up there.
somber umbra
This works. I listen to a lot of YouTube videos while driving/waking etc
storm jungle
so i dont see why fantasy orks cant have guns
because its a medieval setting
nobody wants orks with machine guns lol
this is what THE REAL greentide looks like
mortal lance
God bless them
rose thorn
best part is those tribal orks are currently the strongest way to play orks
plush mason
https://tenor.com/view/savage-orcs-dance-warhammer-total-war-greenskins-orcs-dan...
he had to be a bitch to rig and animate
minor lance
best part is those tribal orks are currently the strongest way to play orks
As it should be
plush mason
is lore and book club the only channels without a slowmo?
oh no fan art minis and pettide done ether
good
brave charm
nobody wants orks with machine guns lol
Ratling gunners would like to have a word.
neat pawn
ork Lootas were cool though.
brave charm
Rats are good they dont count
short ermine
Do female Ogryn exist in-universe?
rose thorn
I swear that is the third time that question was asked this week lmao
storm jungle
I dont really blame them since female ogryns have zero visual appearances
its just in novels
hushed lava
u thought orks were asexual
wet cradle
So, where in the galaxy is Atoma Prime?
rose thorn
are you allowed to do genetic modifications in the imperium?
rose thorn
like besides space mairnes lmao
storm jungle
Lmao
rose thorn
or modify my self hmmmmmm
storm jungle
GSC Moment
rose thorn
twisted helix might have a good point
wet cradle
Hmm, I think the Dark Eldar might enjoy that line of thinking
plush mason
how can a shrine world have a militia?
storm jungle
Basically any imperial world can have a militia
its mostly dependant on what their purpose is
that and loopholes exist so people will exploit them as they see fit
wet cradle
Some shrine world's even have contingents of IG, or SoB, or even Space Marine chapters stationed on them.
plush mason
so i guess the whole "no men at arms" thing really dont mean shit to the ecclesiarchy lol
proper helm
It's a legal pretext to drop the hammer on any overly ambitious Cardinal
In cases where they are allowed to maintain militias, it requires a secular authority to sign off on it
All the way up to the High Lords themselves to have them actually attack somewhere
somber citrus
they can also have a PDA
plush mason
wtf is the difference between the PDA and the militia?
vocal tapir
Do any of you have any warhammer lore YouTube channel recommendations?
Lutein09 is the only place for serious lore learning if you want depth IMO.
hexed shard
are the nurgle cultists sentient or are they like zombie/hive mind?
cerulean wagon
are the nurgle cultists sentient or are they like zombie/hive mind?
a bit of both
plush mason
Lutein09 is the only place for serious lore learning if you want depth IMO.
oculus imperia is also very good tho less in depth than Lutein09
gloomy heath
So is the Emperor effectively dead or is the golden throne keeping him just barely alive?
plush mason
i think the poxwalkers are like headcrab zombies
the way they scream for help and even tell us to go away is just chilling
alpine ingot
The emperor is both dead and not dead at the same time.
gloomy heath
Neat
alpine ingot
spiritually he's alive, but his every waking moment for the last 10k years has been nothing but blinding agony as he both powers the Astronomicon and keeps the demons at bay so they don't swarm and infest Terra
gloomy heath
Is that a "this'll totally work for the rest of eternity" plan or is humanity screwed in the end anyway
tepid pendant
It works until someone decides to unplug the Emperor's life support.
lunar mauve
no one reall
gloomy heath
And then chaos and daemons immediately show up and devour everyone I assume
lunar mauve
really knows*
alpine ingot
the only ones that can honestly do something to stabilize the Imperium is his sons, and most of them have fucked off for plot reasons and only Guiliman is left to pick up the pieces and I feel like he wants nothing more then to have 15 minutes to do nothing but scream his head off with how back asswards the Imperium now is.
storm jungle
Is that a "this'll totally work for the rest of eternity" plan or is humanity sc...
Humanity is pretty much doomed
the Emperor himself has said it
the Imperium's eventual fate is to basically be the Holy Roman Empire where everyone will seperate into its own kingdoms/spaces once the central government eventually collapses and its every planet/man for himself
this simply hasnt happeneded yet because plot and the Imperium is dominantly kept afloat by toy sales
plush mason
i wonder if GW will just keep the plot frozen forever
storm jungle
Nah they wont
Warhammer as a setting is run by money first and foremost.
Lore is secondary or even in third place in their minds, it doesn't exactly matter as long as the big arrow goes up in the chart.
📈
plush mason
thats what i mean
if the space marines and the imperium stuff are the mail sellers they have 0 reason to advance the plot cause that will ofc only lead to the imperium's collapse
storm jungle
We'll see tbh
they have been milking it for 30 years
they can prob milk it for a few more decades
plush mason
ye
rose thorn
Lore is secondary or even in third place in their minds, it doesn't exactly matt...
To be fair warhammer is more of a setting then a story
storm jungle
Kind of
Theres way too much plot in it to not be considered a story in the eyes of people.
Its more that the company itself doesn't exactly care much about it
plush mason
the lore exists purely to push sales
rose thorn
Unlike magic the gathering where fuck you all Chandra and Nissa are hard core lesbians for each other I refuse to let any dumb ass writer say otherwise
plush mason
lmao
storm jungle
Riot™️ Moment
rose thorn
I’m glad warhammer has a shit load of queer couples even before it became cool
plush mason
how do you make that little TM sign btw?
rose thorn
™️ damn
plush mason
ty
storm jungle
np
storm jungle
I’m glad warhammer has a shit load of queer couples even before it became cool
Its slowly getting there
you wouldnt see women and other people doing anything back in the day
they couldnt even pilot Knights
languid crypt
old warhammer doesn't have a lot of repersentation
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much
languid crypt
For instance, I think there's like, a black dude in fantasy
storm jungle
Yeeee
rose thorn
Lol
plush mason
hell now the IG has more women in it that any other sci fi army lol
storm jungle
like even now the new Wrath & Glory book literally had an african american person in its cover which is a neat change
languid crypt
they've been fixing it tho. Cathay, Black space marines (Not the 'Manders), women and such
storm jungle
Yeeee
rose thorn
OH YEAH WHEN INSAW IT I WAS LIKE ‘oh shit for real?’
Idk why it caught me off guard so hard
storm jungle
Not being used to it probably
rose thorn
Yeah lmaO
languid crypt
only issue I have is some of em suffer from Tokenism. Sad, when we have cool people like Lortarra Sarrin
rose thorn
Also, like explained in assassinorum king maker, peoples skin tones aren’t refered to like ‘African American’ or ‘Hispanic’ it’s literally the description of the color of their skin
storm jungle
yeah you cant really do that without it coming off as weird
languid crypt
I mean it's kinda fair. Those places haven't existed for like, 20 thousand years
languid crypt
and I know this is 40k zone, but take Drekki Flynt
He can't be African. Mans a Sky Dwarf. From the sky
plush mason
i do love that during the age of strife america just became merica
storm jungle
He can't be African. Mans a Sky Dwarf. From the sky
Yeah at best you can just explain his parents origin point/fictional ethnicity
rose thorn
It’s always weird when fiction puts races into separate things, like you can’t be a Hispanic imperial or anything
They have their own like, race option
plush mason
hell the crimson fists are hella hispanic
storm jungle
Yeee its their names mostly
rose thorn
Juan, el fisto caliente
Pedro Kantor is their chapter master-
languid crypt
also Cousin Matt, if you're here, please don't tell your dad about my poor use of Spanish
plush mason
Pedro Kantor is their chapter master-
ofc his name is Pedro
rose thorn
Yeah lmao
languid crypt
so that's where Kantor blue comes from
rose thorn
yes
Oh yeah is there a lore explanation for promoting units in game?
I Mean like
You upgrade your Captain to a chapter master
If I’m running ultra marines and I have someone upgraded to chapter master, isn’t it weird?
I mean I guess it doesn’t matter
plush mason
ye
languid crypt
like the Lasgun
storm jungle
languid crypt
also, bit more about Drekki
Man, and most of his Crew, sail under Barak-Mhornar, but are from Barak Thrund
Barak Thrund, does not exist
plush mason
wtf are sky dwarves?
plush mason
ah
languid crypt
Tzeentch attacked a bunch of dwarf-holds, they said 'To hell with this' and went to sky
plush mason
fucking lizard men moment
storm jungle
Kharadron Overlords are great
might be one of the best faction aesthetics in warhammer
languid crypt
I love em. Barak Thryng for the win
rose thorn
Funny how much lore from AOS and 40K are basically the same thing but fantasy
storm jungle
Funny how much lore from AOS and 40K are basically the same thing but fantasy
Ur-Gold Moment
languid crypt
The Leagues of Votann are the same damn thing
storm jungle
Yeah lmao
literally just "CAPITALISM GO BRRR"
Dwarves got like one trope tho which is mining/money so I guess i cant blame them.
rose thorn
Ur-Gold Moment
UR-GOLDDDDD
languid crypt
Uber Capitalist? check
Highly Advanced Weapons? check
Profit before everything? Check
rose thorn
Fuck I need to buy thier Box I love them
languid crypt
I got it, along with the Ironhead prospectors
rose thorn
Oh the fyre slayers
languid crypt
they look.....VERY, similar to the dwarves in DRG
rose thorn
Not LoV lmao
languid crypt
ooo, Gotreks boys
rose thorn
I only like them because thier lore reminds me of endless space
And I fucking LOVE endless space
languid crypt
I personally feel that it's kinda bland
rose thorn
ITS AMAZING
rose thorn
Oh LoV
languid crypt
no, Fyreslayers
rose thorn
Well yeah that’s their entire thing
And it’s kinda cute and funny
‘Angry small man <3’
Also a mercenary
plush mason
what happened to his human sidekick?
languid crypt
died
plush mason
rip
storm jungle
Yeah Gotrek basically got chosen by Grimnir the god of vengeance to take his place.
Felix literally begged him not to go
rose thorn
Yet funnily bretonnia became an AOS Easter egg inside joke
storm jungle
but to no avail, so he just bled out to death
languid crypt
Felix might be a stormcast
storm jungle
Yeah nah
Felix will return at some point
prob in human form
its warhammer, they just need a good excuse
THATS HOW THE LORE WORKS
rose thorn
Lmao
languid crypt
I mean, Gelt is a stormcast
humble solstice
Yet funnily bretonnia became an AOS Easter egg inside joke
The ghouls are what most folks point to for that, but Ifeel like the vamp knights are also tied to it.
plush mason
Gotrek got stuck in hell killing Daemons
you mean the daemons got stuck in with Gotrek
languid crypt
The Celestant Prime is probably Karl Franz
rose thorn
The ghouls are what most folks point to for that, but Ifeel like the vamp knight...
Also the uh,,, night haunts apparently ahve a few bretonnians
humble solstice
Also the uh,,, night haunts apparently ahve a few bretonnians
the haunts havea few of everything, tbh
rose thorn
Oh yeah and the elf god of life stole a few for some safe keeping
languid crypt
I mean, the Kharadon and the Bonereapers didn't exist until 2nd Ed
and it's basicly confimed that Grombrindal is coming back
so we might get some Bretons
languid crypt
I want them to come back with female bretonnians and lesbians
Redpants de lioness?
storm jungle
rose thorn
Redpants de lioness?
What?
storm jungle
uhh bad
rose thorn
Aw :(
rose thorn
~~HEY SISTERS OF BATTLE ~~
storm jungle
NOOO
rose thorn
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/b/b5/RepanseTotalWar.jpg/re...
Wow she is literally Joan of arc
rose thorn
Side note, can we agree Joan of arc is cute af. She is the earliest goth girl I can think of
languid crypt
I think she's also like, 16 in that image
storm jungle
Yeppers
storm jungle
but yeah Repanse is literally the same deal
just uh
less burning to death in the end
rose thorn
LMao
languid crypt
Joan of arc died at 19ish in 1431
crisp heath
Yeah, Joan is hot af..
rose thorn
NOoOoO
languid crypt
she did army things like twoish years before that, so 16-17ish