distant parcel
people can still mean dark crusade when they say dow1
#40k-lore-chat
barren tapir
Exitus, and yes, he did had it
It even had the exitus pistol
I should have expected you would know... And i should have knew that you would have throw at it tons of hours too
idle anchor
if you think about it, the Adeptus Mechanicus are kind of like the ATF, change out one screw and its suddenly heresy
wind flicker
A little unfair to compare the admech to the atfh
cerulean wagon
if you think about it, the Adeptus Mechanicus are kind of like the ATF, change o...
i hate how accurate that is
tiny raven
vapid tiger
tawdry escarp
Age of Sigmar is supposed to be a quasi continuation of Fantasy after the End Times, right?
Or is it a completely separate timeline?
fierce pendant
Age of Sigmar is supposed to be a quasi continuation of Fantasy after the End Ti...
Ye, it boils down to them doing a hard-reset, since meta for TT was in a bad spot and minis weren't selling, plus just general lack of popularity of it at the time.
tawdry escarp
So, is it possible that Kruber and Saltzpyre became Stormcast Eternals?
fierce pendant
Depends technically U5's story didn't end yet, as they're pretty much in the early days of the Endtimes. Depends what FS&GW decide for em.
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much that, since with the way warhammer lore works they could easily be their humanoid selves with the right excuse
especially when a lot of people already theorize Vermintide 3 if it ever gets made will be in AOS
tawdry escarp
Are the Skaven in AoS?
fierce pendant
Ye but they're like actual part of chaos now if I remember correctly.
There was lots of merging in AoS to hard-reset certain factions.
Nvm just checked they are separate from what it looks like. Never looked into it much.
real stone
Skaven are skaven
tawdry escarp
I'm pretty sure the Horned Rat would take offense to someone else trying to poach his followers/food
fierce pendant
It's more of an alliance and horned rat taking the spot of the 5th chaos god.
cunning wigeon
There are still thousand sons that dont care about tzeentch and want to save magnus right? I cant remember their name so its hard to find but I wanna make sure im right on that
alpine ingot
Not sure on that one. I know there are those that will follow their father on whatever path he walks, and there is the exiles. Those like Ahriman that either left of their own accord or where banished from the planet of the sorcerer's
rose thorn
I need to finish my lil knights first
Before I buy my big boy
I’ve made a lil like story for my main knight who’s a gallant
She belongs to house Griffith and was supposed to be politically married off to another family but instead stole a mini knight and proved her skill at arms and brute forced her way into becoming a knight gallant
She’s extremely spiteful and has a tendency of often free blading mainly to spite people who undermine her skill just to prove a point
And maybe she has a brother who dies in the battle she steals the lil knight in
And so the family values having a knight in the family over the political marriage
GUEHEISG I love knights
rose thorn
European Gundom
final spruce
Thats a good name for that
rose thorn
Lamo thank you
tawdry escarp
Love me Titanfall
Love me Gundam
Love me Imperial Knights
Simple as
plush mason
like actual knights
so their pennant is mounted between the knight's legs. nice
unique berry
Would it be possible to destroy the orcs forever like eradicate them from the galaxy since they are just mushrooms
wind flicker
no cuz thatd be boring
storm jungle
The entire reason they can't get rid of them is BECAUSE they are mushrooms.
Spores practically get everywhere and it would take billions of lifetimes to even get to the middle point of eradicating them
seeing as they are everywhere in the galaxy
unique berry
So they could win
unique berry
The entire reason they can't get rid of them is **BECAUSE** they are mushrooms.
As always thanks for ya wisdom
storm jungle
I try 😔
real stone
Also, we have legit no idea how long they can exist while dormant. They could be in the, for lack of a better term, seedbank for a generation and sprout back up.
alpine ingot
once the Orks set foot on a world it is pretty much a done deal that world from that point on have a dedicated force on hand to deal with any resurgence of Orks.
barren tapir
There are example of worlds being cleaned by ork spores, it only take a shitton amount of resources and time
Similar to nids infestations
alpine ingot
the amount of burning required for that is to much for some worlds. Armageddon for instance would need to burn the entirety of it equator jungle or at the very least most of it, in order to get rid of the Ork feral tribes residing within it.
tired umbra
The fact that the planet is legit named Armageddon is equally awesome and hilarious.
"This place is so fucked we are gonna name it ARMAGEDDON!"
alpine ingot
Armageddon isn't even it's original name, but yeah it is an utter and complete shithole of a world so incredibly polluted that you'd die pretty quickly if went outside the hive cities without any protective gear on
slim flame
Yes you will
snow fern
So Inferno Bolts are the incendiary ammunition for Bolters, but Inferno Bolters are Tzeentchian Bolters used primarily by the Thousand Sons, that aren’t technically incendiary. How annoying, there’s more then 1 word for great balls of fire Games Workshop
I stumbled across this trying to figure out if Salamanders had Incendiary Boltguns or not. The answer is yes, I think.
rose thorn
So Inferno Bolts are the incendiary ammunition for Bolters, but Inferno Bolters ...
cough flamers and flamers (the demon) cough
snow fern
Somebody buy a thesaurus for the poor souls.
real stone
So Inferno Bolts are the incendiary ammunition for Bolters, but Inferno Bolters ...
It just works.
snow fern
Hellfire Bolt Rounds are injectable acid needles. That’s more forgivable though, the differences between acid and fire are mostly negligible.
Also where the fuck is my acid flamethrower, like the one from Resistance Fall of Man?
final spruce
I assume its more of a balance choice
vapid tiger
Ignoring them because 40k
balmy tusk
Like I know the Space Wolves did basically something like this with the whole predator tank lascannon deal
Well yeah, but what if the admech find out
balmy tusk
What's the equivalent of the ATF in 40k
vapid tiger
Hive gangers regularly acquire contraband firearms and las weapons and modify them
Against the law
And if anyone finds out they die
Such as this thing
The shotlas
An illegal modification of a lasgun
The "veteran lasgun" is another example utilized by guardsmen, who will grab another lasgun and basically add an extra barrel to their own because why not
And if the techpriests or commissars find out they're punished
undone zodiac
Unless said commisars are cain level
final spruce
I mean depends really, most officers and commissars give a bit more leaway to vets
And that is in the codex lmao
vapid tiger
There's always that one asshole though
It's the imperium
Tis a silly place and not one of reason
undone zodiac
Cain trolling fellow commisars is still my favourite moments in his books
unique berry
Is Constantin Valdor truly the best warroir of humanity?
unique berry
Sound logic
shadow plover
well ten years ago maybe
plush mason
dont ultramarines have like 80 million tons of plot armor at the minimum?
undone zodiac
Usually
Only get fucked in codex artworks
In stories they rofl stomped due to certain writer
I dont think they are as oversaturated nowaday
spark relic
I don't know about that, Uriel Ventris kills a C'tan shard by making it depressed
That doesn't sound normal to me
vapid tiger
dont ultramarines have like 80 million tons of plot armor at the minimum?
It's not as bad as in 5th ed days but still not great
A lot of it is genuine criticism mixed with memes that are 13-15 years old by now
plush mason
lmao
vapid tiger
because the 40k community's meme shit stays stagnant outside of adding even worse shit to the pile
Like people suddenly become aware that krieg exists and deciding to spam shovel memes and then go "they are STRONG MEN i wish i was a krieger"
vapid tiger
(they are blue)
I'm blue badabeebadabi
plush mason
I don't know about that, Uriel Ventris kills a C'tan shard by making it depresse...
if i had to talk to an ultramarine i would likely get unnaturally depressed too lol
vapid tiger
Also matt ward hate is still a thing due to 13-15 year old memes when the man has not publicly worked on a gw codex for a decade at least
and also wrote all the good bits for vt1 and 2
and is writing dialogue and being a creative consultant for darktide
wind flicker
Only gw stans can hate something more than the author themselves
vapid tiger
and apparently wrote a p decent novel because he's a freelance writer
plush mason
yeah the matt ward hate is stupid
vapid tiger
Only gw stans can hate something more than the author themselves
Once chatted to some guy who fucking said
"I hate reading, despise literature, I hate it. But I'll read warhammer 40k novels, they are masterpieces because I can stand to read them and they should have taught those in school"
wind flicker
True
vapid tiger
like no bro you're just stupid and have to read pulpy novels that can be easily understood by middle schoolers in order to read
Like
You like black library novels. You prefer them cool good for you I'm glad whatever
but then going "and that's why the horus heresy is better written than any of that schlock shakespeare wrote" is like ???!?!?!?!?
like no you only get the neuron activation from the big spaceman slapping the other big spacemen
these PEOPLE
live RENT FREE
IN MY HEAD
wind flicker
Mald
There's that one dude who spends their entire paycheck on minis and paints them with their tongue
alpine ingot
I like 40k novels cause it is my primary interaction with the setting, but to suggest any one book is a masterpiece compared to examples taught in school is pushing it mildly... stupid.
plush mason
but then going "and that's why the horus heresy is better written than any of th...
honestly i doubt any of them have even read Shakespeare
alpine ingot
Probably never read anything from Hemingway
dry epoch
40k is pulp fiction and that’s absolutely fine.
plush mason
so endless got it
vapid tiger
40k is pulp fiction and that’s absolutely fine.
Ye it's just when people say "it's better than shakespeare" or w/e that I get miffed
plush mason
next time someone does just ask them if they have read any shakespeare lol
wind flicker
Ye it's just when people say "it's better than shakespeare" or w/e that I get mi...
Ciaphus cain rawdogging tayber at the end of the series was more inspiring than lord of the rings
vapid tiger
Ciaphus cain rawdogging tayber at the end of the series was more inspiring than ...
Me rawdogging ur mom was more inspiring than ciaphas cain
wind flicker
plush mason
so the mechanicus game has be wondering. does the cult mechanicus have like 2 contradictory dogmas on tech and discovery?
one dogma is about advancing knowledge where as the other is about destroying any "impure" knowledge
wind flicker
Ye
cobalt topaz
Mechanicus do be kinda dumb sometimes
barren tapir
More than two dogmas, each forge world has pretty much its own, and even within the same forge world there are various currents of thought
barren tapir
Yes, formally all forge world pledge to its rule, but in reality everyone do pretty much what they want, unless extreme braking of code happen
Like the moirae schism
plush mason
so there was a schism
barren tapir
It is called that, not that it was that
Like horus heresy, it wasn't heresy, it was betrayal
plush mason
but did this schism break the cult apart like the propastant one irl?
barren tapir
Kinda, it started a civil war in the Ad. Mech.
plush mason
so just like the one irl lol
barren tapir
Yes, but unlike the irl one it got crushed and destroyed
plush mason
rip
barren tapir
It is actually a nice event tbh, it had quite the repercussions on the imperium and a lot of other things too
Seems also that the prophecy of moirae predicted the fall of cadia and the great rift...
plucky moth
tbf Shakespeare sucks
plush mason
also i the game the lictor guy from metallica calls the tech priest from styigies 7 a heretek or rather calls all the ones of stygies 7 hereteks. why is that?
unique berry
tbf Shakespeare sucks
Why would ya said that
barren tapir
Because stygies VIII has an huge numbers of xenarite, which are a faction that like to study alien tech, which is heresy for the Ad. Mech.
plush mason
i see
barren tapir
In fact, Stygies is the home of such faction
plush mason
so like. why hasnt stygies 7 been excommunicated then?
barren tapir
Its origin date back to the horus heresy
barren tapir
so like. why hasnt stygies 7 been excommunicated then?
Too much precious
atomic pelican
Didnt stygies get mega obliterator virus'd or was that somewhere else
barren tapir
The high lords have declared it is too much important to interfere with
barren tapir
Didnt stygies get mega obliterator virus'd or was that somewhere else
Somewhere else, Stygies is still going strong
plush mason
The high lords have declared it is too much important to interfere with
isnt the fabricator general of mars one of the high lords?
barren tapir
If you are referring to nurgle infestation then it was metalica
barren tapir
isnt the fabricator general of mars one of the high lords?
Yes
plush mason
so yeah he says to leave stygies alone you leave it the fuck alone lol
barren tapir
Eh, the Ad. Mech. isn't that unified to make the fabricator general of mars giving too much importance to other forge worlds, sure, letting a forge world getting owned like that would create a precedent so it is better to not let that happen, but still, there isn't much friendship between major forge worlds anyway
plush mason
doesnt he lead the entire cult mechanicus tho?
plucky moth
Why would ya said that
ok fine not ALL shakespeare sucks but romeo and juliet is 150% garbage
barren tapir
doesnt he lead the entire cult mechanicus tho?
Formally yes, but in practice each forge world is independent and free
plush mason
so he really is just the Pope of tech lol
barren tapir
Kinda, tbf the orthodox patriarchs could also fit
plush mason
yeah church leadership is always complicated
barren tapir
BTW, the pope was a patriarch once, then just went and made its own path
plush mason
so who leads the ecclesiarchy in 40k?
barren tapir
The ecclesiarch
Which is now also a high lord, one of the many changes that the imperium did to the original concept of the council
The ecclesiarch position is tailored on the pope one
plush mason
big hat and all huh
barren tapir
Yup
cobalt topaz
So like, thoughts on arbites gear appearing in dt?
wind flicker
Probably gonna be a paid dlc for veteran
cobalt topaz
I want to scream "I AM THE LAW" in voice chat
unique berry
ok fine not ALL shakespeare sucks but romeo and juliet is 150% garbage
That I can agree with
crisp heath
romeo more like cringeo
drifting forge
Probably gonna be a paid dlc for veteran
Probably be one of the few DLCs I'd buy that wasn't a gameplay expansion.
barren tapir
Probably gonna be a paid dlc for veteran
The arbiter thing wasn't part of the zealot char though?
unique berry
I would love to see a Steel Legion skin
cobalt topaz
tbf Shakespeare sucks
I agree
Also I'm not following I'm just clicking quote messages why we bringing up shakespeare
Is there a shakespeare in 40k
rose thorn
shit learning about gsc’s like lore they are fucking cool
cobalt topaz
gsc?
rose thorn
Gene stealer cults
atomic pelican
Deathwing pre-dates modern GSC I think
The genestealers of deathwing arent rlly a cult
cobalt topaz
They look p similar
atomic pelican
Theyre the old style of genestealer which is 80% purestrain
cobalt topaz
Well are they like half genestealers?
rose thorn
I really like the princes they are my fav
cobalt topaz
Daemon princes?
Wait so if they're a cult
Are they genestealers who worship chaos
atomic pelican
Thats been lore forever
GSC have existed in lore for a long while now
Technically they pre-date tyranids
barren tapir
They can live in space hulks, but they don't get that many hybrids
barren tapir
Are they genestealers who worship chaos
Yes, just one cult though
dry epoch
Is there a shakespeare in 40k
Sort of! In the Horus Heresy, there's an allusion to a 'Shakespire' whose plays the Remembrancers have collated.
cobalt topaz
Yes, just one cult though
There's only one cult? How big is it if it's all one big cult
How do they not get caught
barren tapir
There's only one cult? How big is it if it's all one big cult
I meant there is only one cult that worship a chaos god
atomic pelican
Genestealer cults
barren tapir
Nids other species hybrids
cobalt topaz
Do they grow the hive ships on the planets and become nids
cobalt topaz
Sort of! In the Horus Heresy, there's an allusion to a 'Shakespire' whose plays...
They only know part of his name that's cool
barren tapir
Nah, they infiltrate societies and prepare to help the nids when they show up, if they don't show up then the cult tend to overthrow the current leadership and replace them
dry epoch
If I remember correctly, the only play they name is called 'Amulet Prince Demark', which is glorious.
cobalt topaz
Nah, they infiltrate societies and prepare to help the nids when they show up, i...
Oh
So they're space illuminati
Except they infiltrate via spreading their people around
barren tapir
No, we have illuminati, they are another faction
barren tapir
Yes, GSC are space infiltrators
barren tapir
Yes
cobalt topaz
Like soviet sleeper agents from the cold war
So like, the image of stalin as an octopus but literal
barren tapir
More like revolutionary movements
cobalt topaz
Spies everywhere sorta thing
cobalt topaz
More like revolutionary movements
So
South american communists
While tau are soviets
Or china
barren tapir
Boy... You read too many memes
cobalt topaz
I learned 40k thru memes then games
barren tapir
That explain all
cobalt topaz
?
barren tapir
The tau being soviets, which they aren't
It is a recurrent meme that the tau are space communist, which they aren't even slightly
storm jungle
South american communists
No
storm jungle
While tau are soviets
No
storm jungle
Or china
No
bad
And yeah GSC got a lot of "low class rising to overthrow the government" vibes
as you can see with the flag
cobalt topaz
Antifa
storm jungle
...No?
shadow plover
what
cobalt topaz
They're social capitalists right
storm jungle
Who?
cobalt topaz
The Scandinavians
crisp heath
Huh
wind flicker
40k factions are like meme political ideologies
cobalt topaz
Like monarchism?
wind flicker
agoPosadism is an authoritarian and economically left ideology based off the ideas of J. Posadas. He's the "crazy cousin" of the leftist family, and holds very unorthodox views. He believes in a form of accelerationism, that holds that socialism can only be achieved after the collapse of society after a global nuclear war.. He also believes that socialist alien civilizations with advanced ...
cobalt topaz
Damn leftist accelerationism
cerulean wagon
gonna top the sign before this gets off track and remind people not to get political
wind flicker
gonna top the sign before this gets off track and remind people not to get polit...
Politics is when space wolves kiss
cobalt topaz
space wolves hot
ork politics tho
so like
sometimes they have nazi helmets
but sometimes they just have like
mad max shit
Are orks space nazis
crisp heath
also space wolves are furries
cobalt topaz
Classic one
crisp heath
furries in space
wind flicker
Orks are Australia
storm jungle
sometimes they have nazi helmets
They dont have nazi helmets anymore
that was dumped since it was kinda controversial
cobalt topaz
Orks are detriot
storm jungle
rightfully so lol
cobalt topaz
that was dumped since it was kinda controversial
But like
What about the armageddon steel legion helmets
cobalt topaz
And krieg
wind flicker
Nah detroit is comorragh
storm jungle
Krieg arent german
Steel Legion looked like the uh
german mountain troops at first
wind flicker
Krieg have ww1 french shit
storm jungle
Orks didnt get cancelled
lol
Also the Imperium is fascist but it doesnt have swastikas or nazi imagery.
its just the aquila for the most part
and thats kind of too ingrained in the game to remove
cobalt topaz
It's a feudal empire I thought
crisp heath
I loved the necrons when they were little murderhobo machines
now they are angsty kings
cobalt topaz
That's what leutin said
wind flicker
Necrons x admech is more fun
wind flicker
Trazyn defo has a magos harem
shadow plover
newcrons are waaaay more interesting
cobalt topaz
Dawn of war necrons are better than matt ward shit
crisp heath
Necrons x admech is more fun
not the worst r34
wind flicker
@vapid tiger oh no
cobalt topaz
Krugmar???
shadow plover
imagine whining about matt ward in 20 fucking 22
wind flicker
Matt ward ate my dog
vapid tiger
matt ward is decent actually he just wasn't during 5th ed 40k
Except for the necron codex
Also wait
vapid tiger
Krugmar???
BEGONE LOTCER
crisp heath
krug are u ok
cobalt topaz
BEGONE LOTCER
Hail Orenia!
vapid tiger
i knew this day would come
storm jungle
I loved the necrons when they were little murderhobo machines
Oldcrons had no character.
And nobody wanted them so lol
vapid tiger
@cobalt topaz go back to lotc punisher pfp
crisp heath
pariah were funny tho
cobalt topaz
krug krug krug
raid raid raid
krug krug krug
raid raid raid
p based username though, also p sure last time i played lotc we genocided ur asses
cobalt topaz
😉
cobalt topaz
Oldcrons had no character.
Nah they were cool terminators
plush mason
lmao
rose thorn
I’m not too sure why I like pauper princes more then the other cults.
There’s something more uh
I like the wholesome?
While the rusted claw are nihilistic as fuck
They both score a more rusted feeling
For different reasons
Pauper princes are from poorer areas but are extremely devoted to each other
And joined the cults for a better life
Also their holy land is a coast city and I love coastal stuff
shadow plover
indeed they are
rose thorn
Yes
Lmao the newer factions are so much better then older ones
A lot more room for creativity
My only issue is I hate the red on the princes
Like, I thgoutn their scheme was purple and orange????
shadow plover
I've seen them done with those colours as well, orange tabard and purple carapace
rose thorn
I've seen them done with those colours as well, orange tabard and purple carapac...
Yeah that’s a lot better then what ever the hell the white and red is doing
Santa lookin color scheme
Wow actually
Almost all of these look terrible lmao
Like
????
wind flicker
gsc model update literally never
rose thorn
4 armed and PP looks fine
Rusted claw is passable
But
What the fuck is bladed cog’s candy lookin scheme
And twisted helix BLUE
Half of them don’t even match them thematically
scenic bolt
they just dug out in the hi-vis of the future
atomic pelican
gsc model update literally never
GSC's entire modern line is only like 5 yrs old DHSBD
Other than umm Purestrains
rose thorn
Honestly GSC seem really fun to paint
atomic pelican
Theyre p good but u have to have the patience for like painting 60 infantry models
rose thorn
Haha I could see that being a problem
I’m top of my pile of demons lmao
And my about to be 2 lil knights
junior pond
I swear i read somewhere squats were basically removed but now they're releasing some new models, can anyone enlighten me
tiny raven
im no expert but squats are from necromunda while the main faction is the leagues of votann which just came out
storm jungle
I swear i read somewhere squats were basically removed but now they're releasing...
They werent removed, more just not talked about because the main GW staff at the time just didn't know what to do with them since their aesthetic more or so sucked.
They are now back as a main faction with a more generic sci-fi aesthetic because GW knows they'll make money.
woven sandal
And the obligatory busted codex.
tiny raven
gw riding on the coattails of giants aka DRG 
woven sandal
I didn't buy it because I ain't interested in the most generic Sci-fi faction of all time, but I've heard the lore in the Votann codex is pretty lacking.
scenic bolt
it took them 30 years to rectify the original problem of dwarf-mechanicus, and their arrived solution is mechanicus but also dwarf, but also better
storm jungle
Idk what to think since people find them great but also hate them from what I hear so
tiny raven
just rock and stone bruthers, for karl
storm jungle
final spruce
Idk what to think since people find them great but also hate them from what I he...
Great on the tabletop ruleswise but aggravating to play against as you are punished for playing the game and interacting with the enemy
Which is, a huge faux-pas in game design
unique berry
Tf was that conversation
tiny raven
yes
unique berry
Krieg arent german
I see u got to talk about your favorit topic again lol
unique berry
dry epoch
Tf was that conversation
Let’s just call it a bad memory
unique berry
Let’s just call it a bad memory
Agreed
cobalt topaz
I swear i read somewhere squats were basically removed but now they're releasing...
They were eaten by tyranids
I think they now have mechanicus cloned squats or something. I heard the new faction is very technologically advanced
Hopefully this means we can get cool stuff like imperial jetbikes and anti-warp tech that closes the warp rift like in battlefleet gothic armada 2
because that would be badass
Still disappointed when I found out that none of those endings were canon
Well except the nid one of course
Necrons closing the eye of terror and abaddon dying would be super fucking cool in canon though
storm jungle
They were eaten by tyranids
Not all the squats were eaten by tyranids, just some portion of the core worlds.
storm jungle
I think they now have mechanicus cloned squats or something. I heard the new fac...
And they have no ties to the Imperium, they just have surviving holds and Leagues that are just doing their own thing.
Not to mention they pretty much hate each other unless its paid mercenary work.
cobalt topaz
And they have no ties to the Imperium, they just have surviving holds and League...
They're xenos!??!?!
storm jungle
They're xenos!??!?!
They're abhumans.
But the Imperium is fine killing anyone that isn't aligned with them so not like it matters much.
snow fern
I don’t have an issue with space dwarfs. 40k has more fantasy in its veins then sci-fi. I mean, you travel across the galaxy by taking a left at HELL (Albuquerque) whiling wearing a magic space bubble tm and using a living gps device that you simultaneously claim to hate with all your being but you society would literally collapse in an instant without them
storm jungle
Ah yeah i dont think anyone minds them being dwarves
pretty much the only complaints I saw was either their Aesthetic™️ or their Tabletop Stuff™️
snow fern
Where’s my loveable comedic duo novel of an Ogryn with a squat. Has any 40k novel matched the beloved gotrek and felix books?
potent summit
the original squats were hilarious, they hooked up tracked fortresses to make "LAND TRAINS" whats not to love
Not to mention the biker gangs
spark relic
Well the biker gangs at least are still here
Or at least bikers which could be used to form gangs
potent summit
They were definitely the analogue to the Llama credits int he beginning of Monty Python Holy Grail. Those responsible for sacking them, have been sacked.
dry epoch
My sister was bitten by a moose. No, really!
</automatic response trigger>
rose thorn
I wish the chaos lord could like
Use a normal fucking gun lmao
Like a bolter rifle or something more tactical then a hammer and plasma pistol
unique berry
I have to ask what happend to the boys of the 10th Legion do they get any love since the Heresy
Rip Ferrus Manus
storm jungle
The Iron Hands are more or so a footnote Chapter in the lore
its a mix of them not having much character and Ferrus' death
so unless you are an Iron Hands fan nobody really cares about them overall in the lore/IRL
final spruce
Plus they also suffer from an additional layer of tabletop hate
Ontop of what was mentionned
cerulean wagon
so unless you are an Iron Hands fan nobody really cares about them overall in th...
just like all space marines
unique berry
Damn sad to hear
unique berry
Plus they also suffer from an additional layer of tabletop hate
Why that if I may ask
final spruce
They tend to be either forgettable or downright broken
Irc beginning of 8th and 9th
unique berry
Ah okay thx
dry epoch
just like all space marines
Leave my Space Marines alone. gathers them all up and protects them
cerulean wagon
:lul:
rose thorn
its a mix of them not having much character and Ferrus' death
Not to the EC lmao
They were a huge chunk of lore for us
unique berry
EC?
rocky dune
Emperors children
unique berry
Ah
Rylanor
Sounds maybe stupid but I think it would be cool if Ferrus Manus managed to kill at least one of his traitor brothers he deserved better
rose thorn
Killing fulgrim emotionally was enough
plush mason
so is the immortality of the perpetuals ever really explained or is it just kind there?
wind flicker
Men of piss
plush mason
lmao
btw. yellow is not a natural pee color
its a sign you have to much toxins in your diet
lmao
wind flicker
its a sign you have to much toxins in your diet
True, eat more crystals from Gwyneth paltrow
plush mason
lmao
snow fern
Drink more water
outer wave
The faction or the box set?
No clue on the box set, but thats a Genestealer Neophyte, part of Genestealer Cults
tired umbra
They stole it.
outer wave
I think those are supposed to be mining suits?
Basically the Genestealer Cults are the closest that GW is going to get to a rebel guerilla army
So alot of their forces are made up of "normal" workers
Not quite
Genestealers are a Tyranid bioform that are known to go independent from their hivefleets
The people they infect and turn part Tyranid are those that actually worship Tyranids
I'll be honest, not a damn clue who or what that is
tired umbra
That's a Necromunda dude I think
plush mason
iirc its a new ganger for one of the necromunda house gangs
van saar i think
more or less a super psyker
tired umbra
The people they infect and turn part Tyranid are those that actually worship Tyr...
Basically a tyranid infects a human. The infected human begins to slowly become subservient to the tyranids and begins to infect more humans. They will do this for YEARS until their numbers become big enough to start a full blown rebellion on whatever planet they are. Their plan is to cause chaos and recruit more members until they can call for a tyranid fleet to come to their planet and eat everyone. And that includes the genestealers.
tired umbra
Pretty much yeah. They think they are the next step of evolution or whatever. And when the fleet arrives, some of them just hop into the bio vats to be consumed by the swarm willingly.
But some also snap out of the tyranid control before that happens and they realize what the fuck they just did.
outer wave
Some kind of dont care even when they snap out
Because its the Genestealers that start these cults
And because they do kind of technically steal genes in order to make a hybrid
tired umbra
Yeah. And the cult can begin producing actual Genestealers themselves after a certain point I think.
But that's after a few generations.
final spruce
That's the Gen 4 or 1 purestrains
That can, in turn, evolve into patriarchs to spread further and to other planets
tired umbra
The cults can be found in every civilization too. The tau have them.
The orks are pretty much immune to them because a genestealer cultist isn't gonna be proper orkish.
They basically go "What in the fuck is your problem dude?" and kill them for being a dweeb.
The cult starts with normal looking people. But at some point shit gets wacky and they start looking all grody and mutated.
Until this happens.
final spruce
In short, purestrain comes, evolves into patriarch, begins to infect and mindcontrol people, these people suddenly feel the urge to start families, the cult grow bigger, the generations advance and the cult starts to invade upper society, then when they are big enough to otherthrow the government, Patty send a signal to the nids that tis feeding time
outer wave
They start with normal looking people
I dunno about that, they have weird head plates and they're all suspiciously bald
final spruce
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1023023562287751269/unknown.png Thats a purestrain
Aka a full on Genestealer
With some host dna
tired umbra
A Genestealer ain't a joke either. That thing can rip trough Terminator armour like it's made of toilet paper.
final spruce
Yup
Usually they kinda don't unless the tyranids were called
GSC are sneaky fellows
In some planets, like in Cult of the Spiral Down, they have churches in the open
cerulean wagon
ye glassing (imperial) planets is pretty rare (in the scheme of things)
final spruce
There was only that 1 Inquisitor that got fired for it because he overly abused it
Humans reproduce fast
cerulean wagon
ye but orks also kill themselves pretty quickly
tired umbra
They like to fight. If there isn't anything else to beat up. They beat up eachother.
But fortunately for them. There's pretty much always something to kill out there.
cerulean wagon
orks are being of pure violence and malovence don't let the memes fool you
they will happily tear anyone limb from limb
tired umbra
Yeah the orks are not to be fucked with. They're an ancient bioweapon that stuck around after their war ended.
And now they are everyone's problem and there will never be a solution for them.
hushed kayak
They're literally programmed to fight
final spruce
Look how happy and satisfied he is by crushing the krieg
cerulean wagon
https://tenor.com/view/slugga-boy-warhammer40k-kill-team-ork-wh40k-gif-26410407
still the best recent portrayal of orks
if you haven't seen it winters
cerulean wagon
because they are a squad of veterans from krieg
atomic pelican
Its just the team name yee
abstract zealot
would it make sense for there to be Mad Max style Khornite marauders wandering around the wastelands outside of the hive city?
final spruce
Btw I just checked, the krieg Kit is as expensive as the old cadian shock troop one
tired umbra
would it make sense for there to be Mad Max style Khornite marauders wandering a...
Ye
cerulean wagon
would it make sense for there to be Mad Max style Khornite marauders wandering a...
na, we runnin nurgle cults atm
a big cult at that, they've probably done some work to snuff out other cults
final spruce
Well Atoma is the Heart of the system and the only reason the cult managed to be that large there was because of Traitor elements of the best regiment that got called back home
cerulean wagon
ofc, but they would have needed influence before to be able to convert the regiment
remember that the regiment was brought back specifically to deal with the civil unrest, and then turned
so this cult is massive
abstract zealot
there arn't too many people out in the wastlands to convert into pox walkers though
final spruce
ofc, but they would have needed influence before to be able to convert the regim...
The Admonium cult yeah
cerulean wagon
there aren't but there also aren't enough people out there to constitute a full khorne army
storm jungle
there arn't too many people out in the wastlands to convert into pox walkers tho...
40k works on the logic of lore and plot excuses. So anything the writers says goes.
cerulean wagon
and anything we fight needs to be in numbers enough to be a full army
since they are trying to line up gameplay with lore (which i kinda love(
abstract zealot
I just thought mad max stuff would be cool, might would be orks would work better since they can drive a literal pile of scrap with wheels strapped on and there are stray bands of orks anywhere
I know people say orks are huge, but those guys are typically in a big whagghh fighting 24/7
cerulean wagon
maybe, but i don't expect much in the way of vehicles
beyond the valk we saw in gameplay before
tired umbra
I wish to drive a Baneblade
cerulean wagon
Orks tho we could maybe see down the line, i'd love to fight some
plush mason
Literally the best media Krieg ever got
and then GW fucked it up by making a shovel version
which is what spawned the chain shovel memes
abstract zealot
As I understand it Orks are an infestation that can never be fully wiped out and has to be suppressed constantly. With the human defenders either turned or otherwise distracted the orks would have enough time to build up their numbers and become a viable threat. Missions could be as simple as killing the leader so they start fighting each other again.
But yeah, the real question is would it be fun, orks seem almost too cartoonish to fit in Darktide
plush mason
they made a joke version of the officer killing the ork which replaced his chainsword with a shovel
but all they changed was the visuals so the animations and sounds where still the chainsword
thus. chain shovel was born
storm jungle
Yeah they basically replaced the chainsword the krieg soldier was using with a shovel
because people complained the kit didnt have shovels
even though it fucking did
plush mason
lmao
storm jungle
and was literally shown on stream
plush mason
that meme will never fucking die
scenic bolt
at this point I applaud GW's restraint in not putting in a Rock and Stone rule or strategem for votann
plush mason
like if im in a SoL situation im 100% using my entrenching spade on your ass but it would never be my go to melee weapon
outer wave
Honestly I really like how fuckin' metal it is for a shovel to be used as a melee weapon, but the damn meme wont fucking die
scenic bolt
like the fix bayonets meme that preceded it it's supposed to be an act of desperation but people just made it into the only personality of the faction
outer wave
Wait that meme died out?
scenic bolt
Ive felt that shovel memes have sucked up the oxygen in the room
plush mason
Honestly I really like how fuckin' metal it is for a shovel to be used as a mele...
its not just metal its a proven historical tactic
plush mason
both G.I.s and Red army and German troops in ww2 used their shovels in hand to hand battles
due to the advantages in weight and reach over knives
scenic bolt
yea it was equipment, it lets you gain cover under certain conditions out in the open
storm jungle
^
scenic bolt
it wasnt a melee weapon though
storm jungle
their melee weapon was already a trench club yeah
atomic pelican
KT shouldve been any other regiment
Krieg and its effects on warhammer has been a tragedy
scenic bolt
willing to be it still sold like hotcakes
plush mason
Krieg and its effects on warhammer has been a tragedy
the 5th regiment especially
the guys in literal SS black trechcoats
scenic bolt
at least for local that box set was what pushed a lot of 40k players into trying KT because OMG KRIEG SHOVELS BOMBARDMENT DUTY UNTO DEATH
plush mason
the blue boys of the 143rd have largely replaced the 5th as the face of DKOK thankfully
cerulean wagon
their melee weapon was already a trench club yeah
which has a sick model
plush mason
whats it look like?
like is it a flat out ww1 cudgel?
holy shit it is
thats great
man can that be a melee weapon for the vet please?
does the guy in the top right have a bible?
bible, holy book, same thing literally lol
scenic bolt
it was uplifting primer
plush mason
ofc that would look like a bible
rosery and all lol
@storm jungle talking about 40k ship sizes. do we have a number for the size of the emperor's personal battleship?
storm jungle
We dont aside from the fact that its big enough to mess up a planet's tidal waves when it gets close to orbit
storm jungle
Yeee
the only good visual representation of it id say is by Lordcarmi
this is like one of his biggest and most computer crashing artworks so 
plush mason
lmao
storm jungle
And deviantart link incase you wanna super zoom in: https://www.deviantart.com/lordcarmi/art/Imperator-Somnium-746754523
plush mason
earth's moon is 1,079.6 miles in radius
storm jungle
Yeah the ship only appears in like 2 books
In Horus Rising where it gets a good size explanation
then one of the Siege books where it gets destroyed
because it was a plotpoint and they had to wrap it up
plush mason
wtf did they do to destroy something that massive and powerful?
storm jungle
Those beginning bits on the lexi are all you're gonna get. Otherwise not explained.
The Imperator Somnium was constructed not on Mars, but on Terra. It was a unique, golden vessel of immense size, dwarfing even Imperial battleships in both size and firepower. Its size was on par with that of the Orbital Plates of Terra.
The Imperator Somnium was extremely advanced, constructed with the secrets of Terra's Dark Age of Technology. As such, it wielded formidable weaponry such as Volkite Storm Accelerators, multiple Nova Cannons along its keel, Rad-Fusion warheads, and much of its functions were automated, allowing for effective operation with minimal crew
plush mason
and it only managed to down 4 heavy cruisers and a single battle barge...
plush mason
lmao
storm jungle
But yeah like i said
its basically there because they had to tie up what happened to it
so its just lazily destroyed
plush mason
i swear. 40k's power scaling really pisses me off some times
scenic bolt
the necron battle moon
storm jungle
scenic bolt
larger than earth
at that point wouldnt even need a weapon, you could just move it close to a world, and have its gravity fling the target off into deep space
storm jungle
Necron Tech Moment
plush mason
they literally have the ability to just pinch a star out of existance
scenic bolt
and yet it only took 1500 space marines to bring down
plush mason
and yet it only took 1500 space marines to bring down
well yeah cause space marines are immortal gods didnt you know that? /s
it may have been a crusade which allows a chapter to have more than 1k if needed
storm jungle
^ this
plush mason
which is why the black templars have been on crusade since they where founded
storm jungle
The Imperial response force included the entire sector fleet and elements from fifteen Space Marine chapters, including the Blood Angels[3], Ultramarines, Astral Knights, Invaders, Red Consuls[4] and Aurora Chapters.
Inside the World Engine were tens of thousands of Necron warriors, opposing the attack of seven hundred and seventy-two Space Marines. The battle inside the World Engine lasted for more than a hundred hours, the Space Marines methodically destroying every Flux generator, weapon forge and Command node in their path.[1a]
At the end, only Amhrad and five other marines were left alive, as they fought into the central command tomb. Amhrad's last act was to detonate melta bombs inside the tomb, overloading its already strained control nodes, disabling the World Engine's shields and many of its weapons systems. With the monster finally vulnerable, the remaining Imperial ships let fly with everything they had, tearing the enemy apart with multiple volleys of Cyclonic torpedoes.
scenic bolt
yea I was off by a 0
plush mason
aka the only fist that didnt share his father's athist views lol
yeah he was a bit of a dumb ass
like who the fuck thinks "you know. my dad hates all notions of divine beings as does my granddad, we are fighting a war against the followers of false gods. i think granddad is a god and ima tell dad that. and im sure he will agree with me"
100%
and super super big on the whole "purity of the human form" shit
like the black templars will literally kill anyone with even minor mutations like heterochromia
oh and they use Teutonic knight imagery and rankings
so yeah
oh i guess you dont know about the Teutonic knight's history
yeah the crusades in eastern europe to be precise
part of me really really wishes GW had never bothered with the historical stuff
plush mason
?
rose thorn
In king maker it’s mentioned cawl is making new knights
plush mason
primaris knights?
with hover packs?
or something even more stupid like giant robot horses for the mechs to ride lol
so what controls the automated turrets the imperium uses?
alpine ingot
Servitors
legit they just lobotomize some random death row inmate and hook his ass up to a turret targeting software and boom, automated sentry turret.
alpine ingot
some forge worlds they may vat grow humans specifically to be made into servitors
also to be fair with the whole Sigismund thing, he really didn't get all faith struck until after his encounter with keeler and the warning she gave, and seeing that she was in fact correct that he would have died if he did agree to go on that mission from Dorn.
Also Sigismund's faith was kind of born from the fact that if the options are Big E or literal deamons... he's going to pray to Big E and kill as many traitors and deamons as possible.
mossy mortar
so what controls the automated turrets the imperium uses?
Some might be just machine spirits
cursive hull
Its usually Servitors, in most cases. Least, for Imperial Guard stuff
I know all those sponson and smaller turreted weapons in IG equipment is Servitor run.
Especially on the Baneblade. Typically the main gun, co-ax, and hull mounted weapon up front is all the actual crew work with.
Pretty sure the Sponsons on the Predator tanks are run the same way.
The Land Raider on other hand, definitely can run all by itself.
mossy mortar
No the books definitely say machine spirit for Tarantula turret snd Land Raider
The ability is called "Power of the Machine Spirit"
Though in general the servitor stuff isn't super well fleshed out
It's probably whatever works
prisma lark
for all I know, the "machine spirits" in Land Raiders might as well just be servitors reduced to their most basic component: the brain
rose thorn
with hover packs?
Idk it’s just mentioned that cawl made a completely new knight with a new type of plasma weapon lmao
upper marsh
i love darktide
mossy mortar
Idk it’s just mentioned that cawl made a completely new knight with a new type o...
Ugh
rose thorn
Ugh
Ikr
I really really hope we don’t get primaris knights
New knights betray the old ways!
cursive hull
No the books definitely say machine spirit for Tarantula turret snd Land Raider
Which is what I said
The Landraider does in fact have a Machine spirit
celest rock
engages lasgun right?
rose thorn
readies questor ironhail heavy stubber Right?
celest rock
primes frag grenade Right?
cursive hull
The tank in the lot comes to life and kills all of us.
Yes
tiny raven
#justarmythings
celest rock
*The tank in the lot comes to life and kills all of us.*
Yes
thank you tank
barren tapir
Actually depend on the piece of tech honestly, an AK autogun would have no machine spirit, but a fairly advanced lasgun would most probably have a machine spirit in the form of some automated system within it that not many know about
tawdry escarp
I've unlocked some ork heroes in Tacticus and they're pretty fun(and strong)
So far I have a mek boy, a Killa kan, and a warboss in mega armor
That Killa kan is straight up unhinged
plush mason
i wonder what it looks like when you block or parry with a power weapon
does the field fluctuate or just stay the same
plush mason
may be homebrew
but they may be an ultramarine successor cause it looks like they have the ultramar omega symbol
wind flicker
Sigma marines 
mortal lance
Ultramarines but good
plush mason
holy shit this list is long as fuck
these are all the ultramarine successors the wiki lists
what the actually fuck
wind flicker
Suck sessors
spark relic
I mean yeah, the UM had the most marines at the end of the heresy so they could split the most times
Sure it's ridiculous
But it's also logical
plush mason
true
uneven tide
does the field fluctuate or just stay the same
If a power weapon meets a power weapon the power fields go nuts..... if you parry a power weapon with a non power weapon not there is some affect from the power field but a lot of the time a power weapon will smash through it.
plush mason
i see
rose thorn
So what are the real motives besides demonic possession would knights become chaos knights
past steeple
well glory and notoriety id imagine, especially if it was freeblades.
otherwise scrap code would be a good reason
rose thorn
Where would the glory in serving the dark gods be??? Khrone I guess bu tzeentch for example
past steeple
well my knowledge on these fallen warriors is limited but id imagine there fall would be similar to that of space marines, in that they are either dissatisfied with the imperium or lured to darkness with promises of greater power, but it is to be remembered that the pilot itself is not the only thing that can be corrupted by chaos but rather the knight itself can be tainted by the dark powers of the chaos gods
rose thorn
To become a chaos knight it’s more dependent on the knight then the pilot. But knights with out pilots are much less effective and you can’t always get demons to pilot, and the corrupted souls of ancestors lack strategy and are just fucking crazy
And plus if only the pilot is corrupted the pilot would be killed before bonding most of the time
If the ancestors are able to detect the taint
past steeple
or its like a hellbrute situation where the knight itself is currupted and they just shove some poor sod into it,
then there are cases where the pilot and the knight are merged into one
rose thorn
Honestly being a chaos knight is mostly caused by others and isn’t really something they would get to choose I guess
past steeple
thats a good point, theres the Knights who joined horus, but it seems most chaos/deamon knights are solo acts, or they have a few rabid armegers along with them
rose thorn
Yeah the og traitor houses who probably didn’t realize how much shit they got into lmao
Knowing the outcome of what siding with chaos would be they would probably stay Loyal
‘Your telling me I’m going to be eternally tortured with in my armor for 10k years?’
‘Just so I can kill more
past steeple
they joined Horus out of their own honor or genuinely believed that the imperium was doomed to fail, and that Horus had the right idea
real stone
Well that was a bad idea
rose thorn
Lmao yeah
Honestly the imperium failing wouldn’t even affect knight worlds though
As they and the imperium are separate
And knight worlds are self governed and are their own political identities
past steeple
eehhhh it depends
rose thorn
The imperium demands a galaxy wide tax
They don’t need to follow it lmao
past steeple
there not truely independent like the mechanicum
they tend to fall into either Admech or Imperium
rose thorn
Yeah but the mechancius Also has the ‘I don’t really have to do what you say’ syndrome
past steeple
well they are "TECHNICALLY" independent
rose thorn
Didn’t trh mechanicus try to teleport mars during the war of the beast?
past steeple
not mars i think but they definitely tried make something like a ork attack planet once
real stone
Didn’t trh mechanicus try to teleport mars during the war of the beast?
Yes. Yes they did.
It was dumb.
past steeple
yeah it ended up destroying the damn thing because they didnt set up any way to keep the planet from falling apart,
when the PrimeORKs know to set up seismic stabilizers you know you got a problem
plush mason
It was dumb.
"it was dumb" seems to describe a lot of the war of the beast lol
real stone
Yes.
past steeple
"it was dumb" seems to describe a lot of the war of the beast lol
a damn shame to
it had a interesting premise...
plush mason
yeah
past steeple
it would have been so cool if the beast was actually a kork
past steeple
@rose thorn as usual 1d4chan has the solution to why a knight would join chaos https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Renegade_Knight_House_Creation_Tables
potent swift
I see what you did there GW
mossy mortar
Actually depend on the piece of tech honestly, an AK autogun would have no machi...
No, every human machine has a machine spirit, a holy soul embodied in its design and function
Some are smarter or more articulate than others but all sanctified machines have them
brittle coral
Yeah, iirc machine spirits are actual things, since Daemon Engines love to chew on them, and not just remnants of AI
rose thorn
But how did tech work before the cult mechanicum if the spirits are real?
In my shit under developed theory I think maybe the spirits aren’t real but the rituals are literally just doing maintenance repairs and upkeep, but with a religious over tone
barren tapir
No, every human machine has a machine spirit, a holy soul embodied in its design...
Wrong, completely wrong
We can only hope it is... But i must admit that you were very convincing with your messages, maybe someone took them for serious stuff
mossy temple
Can someone explain to me, a total lore noob, why the alpha legion likes to play the spy class from TF2? In other words, why do they "switch sides" so often?
tired umbra
Can someone explain to me, a total lore noob, why the alpha legion likes to play...
Their whole deal since their inception is that they are master infiltrators who have agents everywhere.
Their loyalty is in question because SOME of them claim to work for the Emperor still. Even if they are Chaos.
rose thorn
Can someone explain to me, a total lore noob, why the alpha legion likes to play...
It’s a mystery OoOoOoOo,, also their primarch(s) believed he was superior to everyone else because he did that kind of stuff
mossy temple
So it is likely that even them do not know for certain which side they work for anymore?
tired umbra
Pretty much. The Legion is fractured like every other Chaos legion so none of them know who works for who really.
And there are -theories- that Alpharius is still alive.
Working for humanity in secret. But that's 90% just a theory.
rose thorn
Yeah, they are so deep undercover they aren’t even sure who they are undercover for
mossy temple
Kinda neat ngl
rose thorn
People will complain it’s silly and doesn’t make sense, but chaos is silly lmao
mossy temple
I mean, it's just one(1) legion. Let them have their thing.
Undercover marines sounds weirdly fun tbh.
rose thorn
I think it opens opportunity for many interesting character ideas
shadow plover
Oculus Imperia did a pretty accurate rundown what they are and how busted they are whilst still loving them in a recent podcast with Arbitor Ian, time stamped: https://youtu.be/J32Mrzx_rtY?t=1340
rose thorn
There was this alpha legion guy an inquisitor spent most of his life hunting down
Then when he finally found him it turned out the guy never existed
And was a code name
mossy temple
Like perseus?
rose thorn
And the guy he caught has the inquisitors face and was going to replace the inquisitor as a spy
Because he got face reconstruction surgery
tired umbra
Yeah. Alpha Legion also REALLY like to say "I am Alpharius" since their Primarch always hid among his own troops as one of them.
Which is why people like to theorize that Dorn didn't kill the -actual- Alpharius.
mossy temple
Wouldn't be so silly for an undercover gig type of legion to disguise the death of someone.
rose thorn
They have a really really cool rule I love
Warlord trait
It’s called ‘I am Alpharius’
Your warlord when it dies, can replace any non cultist model
The flavor being, who ever you killed wasn’t actually the war lord
Or, you did kill the warlord but people took the role of the warlord after he died
Or something along those lines
mossy temple
Why did people say they're boring again?
rose thorn
They don’t have any real characters (until the new book drops)
shadow plover
because the "I am Alpharius" is a bit overdone and people take the fact them playing for both sides a bit too far
mossy temple
next thing you know, an alpha legion operative is sitting on the throne
rose thorn
Also they might not be too fun on table top I’m not sure, as they are a more range focused CSM army
plush mason
because the "I am Alpharius" is a bit overdone and people take the fact them pla...
yeah "they are loyalist today" memes show that lmao
shadow plover
yeah, they're awful
rose thorn
next thing you know, an alpha legion operative is sitting on the throne
Most important thing is like what you like and don’t let others opinions change that
mossy temple
One last thing, do they follow a specific chaos divinity?
I suppose not considering their elusive structure.
rose thorn
They are undivided yes
While BL and WB worship chaos
They are lore like NL where they use it as a tool
In this case to hide them selves
Use demonic stuff to cause a cult uprising so they can seize some intelligence and kill a political figure
tired umbra
They're totally Tzeentch boys on the inside.
rose thorn
Then when they are found out and being chased the drift into a warp storm and disappear
rose thorn
One last thing, do they follow a specific chaos divinity?
Of course you will always have legionaries pray for the dark gods for their raid goes well
Or something like that
There are some really really warped up ones though
abstract zealot
isn't there a chaos marine chapter under Nergal?
rose thorn
Nurgle? Death guard is the name brand one
abstract zealot
I just looked them up, they are collectively called the Death Guard and individually called plague marines. They deliberately expose themselves to pollution to trigger mutations, which with their connection to Nergal makes them decrepit but more or less immune to damage. If they are in the hive city they are probably in the deepest depths where there is more pollution and perhaps artefacts valuable enough to draw their attention.
If we get a mission facing them I imagine they could not be killed but they would be slow enough to run away from them.
shadow plover
there won't be any csm
abstract zealot
Its fun to think about it, but yeah, I can't see them fitting in the style
shadow plover
I wouldn't mind there being like a single DG plague marine or something but it's actually confirmed that there won't be any marine presence loyal or heretic
abstract zealot
ah, alright
its more fun the focus being on the small fish anyway, the world feels big that way
I can pretty well put together different pieces to form a tapestry of lore but my sense of style is no good which is what really matters
slim flame
I figure there will be one mission with CSM. Probably final one
alpine ingot
Need to remember Alpha legion had 2 Primarchs not 1. Alpharius and Omegon, Alpharius never left Terra whilst Omegon was scattered with the rest of the Primarchs.
Upon their meeting Omegon would be introduced to the legion as Alpharius whilst Alpharius would take on the name Omegon to continue serving from the dark.
Though they were twins, the two had very subtle differences between them that made one more loyal then the other.
I would continue explaining bits but honestly I will start to confuse myself by explaining the twos actions because of their fucking name swapping bullshit.
mossy mortar
because the "I am Alpharius" is a bit overdone and people take the fact them pla...
It's possible even they don't onow what side they're on, which is why they're often classified as the other tzeentch faction
slim flame
@alpine ingot or its all AL bs also Im Alpharius
plush mason
no afaik
final spruce
Yes
final spruce
Atleast on the tabletop
plush mason
the wiki only lists them as using carapace armor
master crafted ofc
but its a fan wiki so its likely incorrect
final spruce
I guess it depends because Crusader is also a class in Dark Heresy
final spruce
Weird all of their tabletop appearance since 4th have them in Power Armour
Carapace is the one scions and arbites wear
Guards use flak
Yup
plush mason
ah yeah
plush mason
the thing is aside from the auxilia we dont know what the kit of the standard imperial army had iirc
the auxilia where an elite force kinda like the scions of 40k afaik
final spruce
We know in 40k, i'm not aware in 30k
final spruce
the auxilia where an elite force kinda like the scions of 40k afaik
Nope they were the standard guard
plush mason
they where?
final spruce
The fighting elite of the Imperial Army was the Solar Auxilia, which comprised about 20-25% of the Army's strength by the end of the Great Crusade. so pretty common
mossy mortar
In my shit under developed theory I think maybe the spirits aren’t real but the ...
That's always been implied. The adeptus mechanicus is heavily influenced by classic sci fi like A Canticle for Leibowitz and the Foundation series
mossy mortar
They looked like pretty much everything I think they weren't any more standardized than they were now
plush mason
mossy mortar
At least rhe Horus Heresy novels seem to say so
plush mason
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fasadian_Heavy_Infantry fucking 30k snow troopers
mossy mortar
Though the novels are somewhat shaky canon wise
spark relic
maybe the lucius blacks?
That's still correct, the Lucifer Blacks were active since the Unification Wars of Terra and later fought through the Great Crusade, Horus Heresy and every other major event on Terra up until modern times
They weren't deployed away from Terra that much but they were there all right
barren tapir
The got disbanded after the behead event, but got remade after vangorich was killed, and they are well know... During the great crusade era they were regarded as the best fighter short of SM, to the point that it was regarded that only another lucifer black would be capable to kill one, outside of SM of course
plush mason
cool
hushed kayak
remind me, when a chaos sm dies. Do they return eventually from the immaterium, or is that solely on demons?
tired umbra
A regular Chaos SM ist gone for good when they die.
Only special cases get to return I reckon.
Like Lucius
atomic pelican
Yeah most just die for good but theres all sorts of shenanigans that could bring them back
If you're meaningful enough
hushed kayak
i was wondering, because i found out Kharn died at one point, and he got resurrected.
atomic pelican
If the Gods like you enough. They could bring you back. Or perhaps your broken body could be recovered and revived
mossy mortar
Or warp weirdness
The same guy comes out of the eye but it's actually him from before he died
Because of time distortion
Like how it's rumored to be possible to enter the warp and arrive before the time you left
Or it's a clone with false memories created by Fabius Bile.
broken bridge
I guess orks do in a way but does anyone else in the 40k universe have this outlook towards nids?
mossy mortar
I assume it's because they got rid of Squats by saying they all got eaten by Tyranics
It's probably an in joke
final seal
because DRG duh
whichever planets they mine is sure to have bugs since they stalk splinter fleets for rich bounties
storm jungle
I too respect the giant insectoid alien that melts my body with acid and eats me for lunch.
mossy mortar
In the end (and it took years to really get to the roots of the problem) this led to a realisation that we were going to have to drop the Squats in their 'Squat' form from the 40K background. There was little point having a major race that we weren't willing to make an army book for, and their inclusion in the background meant that people kept asking us when we'd do a Squat Codex. Instead we decided that we'd write the Squats out of the background by saying that their Homworlds had been devoured by a Tyranid Hivefleet. This would give us the option in the future to return to making a race based ont he Squat archetype for 40K.
wind flicker
non tolkien dwarves 🥱
plush mason
rings if power
wind flicker
Don't make me post rings if power clips
rings of power was fine
plush mason
tfw a typo makes the joke even funnier
plush mason
rings of power was fine
seems amazon thinks its set in the 4th age.....
its literally the halo show but better written
wind flicker
gandalf wolf smackin is fine
wind flicker
yes it has timeskips
plush mason
but amazon saying its the 4th
wind flicker
thats kinda necessary for context
since like, the silmarillion is otherwise entirely incomprehensible
wind flicker
💍
mossy mortar
Also because they don't have the rights to the silmarillion and are not allowed to mention anything that happens in it
plush mason
lmao
wind flicker
bezos moment
plush mason
so literally just a massive fan fic
wind flicker
the show would be better if the elf boys had longer hair, rest is whatevs
plush mason
yeah halo show but better written
shadow plover
eh it was alright