#40k-lore-chat

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signal hill
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They all would Pack a heavy Punch with their primary arm within a few Werks though

dry epoch
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Valkia’s brother showed his Slaanesh dedication through gluttony in ‘Valkia the Bloody’

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So yeah. It’s not always about sex 🙂

final spruce
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Never was

tawdry escarp
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Slaanesh's deal has always been excess but since the Eldar did murder fuck him/her into existence, people tend to link them to sex.
Also deamonettes with dildo arms are a meme

vapid tiger
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Yeah I have a friend who has this weird view of slaanesh because of the fan meme of him being a god of sex

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because they like bdsm, and think that slaanesh is the only god that allows bdsm, therefore slaanesh=good and they should play a character in aos who deliberately assists slaanesh cults because "it's wholesome"

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but you can enjoy bdsm without worshipping slaanesh

storm jungle
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literally everything we've been shown to see them do is blood rituals/sacrifices/hedonism

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sex is never mentioned at all, its just people being coomers KEK

vapid tiger
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Imagine dark eldar but with psykers and wraithbone stuff and that's pre-fall eldar

And that's how they achieved the fall

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dark eldar don't really have a lot of sex stuff so yeah

atomic pelican
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The most sexless individuals tend to be the most obsessed with sex

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Cue 40k fans

vapid tiger
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^

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unless they're actual 40k players

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those tend to have healthier sex lives, though tbf at most of the stores I've been at most of the 40k players have been chill lgbt folks too so maybe there's more incel players in more cursed places like ohio or the uk or something

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despite getting a bad rep the southeast us has a shitload of lgbt folks in my experience tbh

atomic pelican
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Yeah thats correct

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Last time censusing was done on it, southeast USA had higher minority pops in near every category

fierce pendant
vapid tiger
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Yeah, I'm in Alabama for example and we don't have as many horrible backwards hick places as people make it out

They exist tho

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In comparison Ohio, a mostly white state, still has sundown towns apparently

atomic pelican
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Yep LMAO

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Its usually white suburbia that ends up being mega racist

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So Ohio

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SE Americans actually have to live by other races

vapid tiger
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Probably most of the midwest tbh

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midwest seems very white

atomic pelican
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Yep

vapid tiger
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west virginia is apparently really fucking racist tho

atomic pelican
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Its just really poor

vapid tiger
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i have a friend who initially went to their university back in college and he said that there were people who would just casually drop the gamer word

atomic pelican
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Bruhhh

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WVA and other app. Mountain towns can get wild

vapid tiger
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Now tbf I've met people like that here but this is also the dixie state

The difference is that the guy who did that was largely viewed as a dork

atomic pelican
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You'll see signs that remind you of Montana cults

vapid tiger
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He is now a cop

atomic pelican
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Classique

vapid tiger
atomic pelican
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What better career path for such a man really

vapid tiger
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He tried to join the military, apparently he got rejected from three seperate branches

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Applied for the police force and got trained in a few weeks

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When the police are accepting military rejects you know shit's fucked when it comes to our law enforcement

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Since the military will take literally anyone

hushed kayak
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wtf did i just witnessed on the earlier messages???

errant pike
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well it would be boring if there was no sex

hushed kayak
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smh lol

plush mason
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?

hushed kayak
plush mason
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lol k

cunning wigeon
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Was there lore where it said Tau drones are treated as equals to such an extent that they can be married to Tau?

grand haven
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not quite

atomic pelican
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My favorite excerpt remains where a firesight marksman dies but his sniper drones protect his body for weeks

grand haven
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they're like dogs yeah

cunning wigeon
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Yeah and then fire warriors show up and it's like oh ye dead

rose thorn
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HEyYYyyyy

grand minnow
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Necron scarabs are best boys

rose thorn
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i mean screamers are pretty cute tho

clear sluice
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I don't understand some things

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If necrons try to become human

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And mechanicus are trying to become robots

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Why don't they just .....switch bodies from the get go ?

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Also why are space marines who belive in the Emperor allowed to work with adrptus mechanicus since they don't belive in Omnissiah?

storm jungle
storm jungle
storm jungle
clear sluice
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Is it like a book ?

grand minnow
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New idea, mechanicus go through biotransference, and necrons try to study them (yes i know biotransference was lost)

storm jungle
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theres Ultramarines, Iron Hands, Blood Angels etc

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they are Marine groups with individual cultures and goals and tactics etc

clear sluice
clear sluice
grand minnow
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Oh i know im just making dumb ideas

storm jungle
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Yeah basically they exist for homebrew

clear sluice
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Why does Corvus get so much hate ?

storm jungle
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He doesnt

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theres people that like him and people that dont, just like most primarchs

clear sluice
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Oh

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Well then I think I don't have any questions for now

storm jungle
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At worst google stuff on the lexicanum

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best source you can get as a summary

clear sluice
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Or watch bricky videos

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You know

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He has a 40 minutes video or so in which he explains every faction

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Plus I'm too lazy to search that up on Google

storm jungle
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Bricky videos are not really good sources for lore

clear sluice
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But I would happily allow a tech priest to transcend me

storm jungle
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he says so himself

storm jungle
clear sluice
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It all began with me knowing about this really boring board game and now there is a game that's supposed to be Vermitide 2.0 or something like that

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And here we are in the present

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A few searches up on YouTube shorts and found about noise marines

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Which no offense but it's kind of a joke

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Then found out about angry marines

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Which in my pov are basically doom guy but yellow and 4 times bigger and angrier

storm jungle
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They are pretty cringe

clear sluice
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That's good

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Wait are they cannon ?

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Or is it like a fan made thing that made it into 40k universe?

storm jungle
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No LMAO

shadow plover
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Angry marines are fanfic

storm jungle
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Yeah they are bad fanfic Chapter from like

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the mid 2000's

clear sluice
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Oof

storm jungle
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who use homophobic slurs and kill people

clear sluice
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I kind of liked them

storm jungle
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They are 4chan made iirc

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which explains it a lot

clear sluice
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Well they have a cannon designed to shoot themselves

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So yeah to be expected

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I suppose vampire and werewolf marines are also fanfic

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Please say yes

storm jungle
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They arent

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because they are pretty grounded and ironically not so ridiculous

clear sluice
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And sanguine marines and vampire marines are related ?

storm jungle
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you mean Angels Sanguine?

clear sluice
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Umm .....yes ?

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I guess

storm jungle
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the Blood Angels are a founding chapter

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theres 20 Founding Chapters

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from them there are successor chapters

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which are basically their "successors" as the name implies

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while the Foundings are their progenitors

clear sluice
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Bro I study medicine on a daily basis and this shit makes my head spin

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It's harder to learn the lore than to figure out how to play Tarkov

storm jungle
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Its really not

clear sluice
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I need your guidance

storm jungle
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Just read the goddamn lexi

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lmao

clear sluice
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Ok

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I though we had like a friendship moment there maybe but yeah

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Too late for that I guess

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I'll read the lexi

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Thanks for the heads up

clear sluice
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I said friendship not banana

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You're thinking too far

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Not that it bothers me

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Quite contrary

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But still

clear sluice
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Waste of potassium btw

storm jungle
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Yeah

errant pike
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grip too hard

grizzled grove
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so, are imperial knights part of any specific Imperial force (like Spess marines, Millitarium, esc.) or are just their own thing?

atomic pelican
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Their own thing I believe. But the knight houses are often called upon to support other forces

grizzled grove
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huh. wait, knight houses? how separate are they from the overall imperium?

atomic pelican
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Iirc there are 2 divisions

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Questor Imperialis who serve the emperor, and Mechanicus who serve them

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They are p much noble houses from imperial worlds where knights became, well, like feudal knights protecting the land

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Then got reinducted into the imperium, and the knight houses pledged their service

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Reminded me of this banger

grand minnow
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Also armigers for adeptus mechanicus work in both armies

crisp heath
rose thorn
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fuck i should get knights holy shit they are so cool and fun

woven sandal
rose thorn
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they are so horrifically badass, hang on whats that picture of Monty Python playing imperial knights during a game of 40k

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Hey knight players, wahts stopping you from playing like this

grand minnow
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Money

storm jungle
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was reduced to 18 after the 2 primarchs went missing

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now 9 because half went to chaos

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kek

grizzled grove
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I think I remember playing a viddy game involving an imperial knight as a kid.

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some kind of mobile game?

storm jungle
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OH YEAH

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Freeblade

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it sucked

grizzled grove
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yeah, that was it

crisp heath
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I still play it. I wish we had more of those.

grizzled grove
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I wonder what makes Imperial Knights so special compared to the other(?) titans

storm jungle
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they are just smaller robots

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also knights drive them

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not much else

woven sandal
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There's also the fact that with "proper" titans I think almost all of them are in the hands of one Titan Legio or another. But with Knights, they're not quite valuable enough that the Ad Mech really tries to horde them so they're a lot more autonomous than Titans. Hence things like Freeblades existing.

lyric ember
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so at times, humans are allowed into the Black Library right?

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Has there ever been a tech-priest allowed to go in?

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cause i feel like they would probably cry if they were

storm jungle
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They arent

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Only the ones chosen by the ruling council inside the Library are. Not anyone can just waltz right in.

lyric ember
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yeah thats what i meant

storm jungle
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No human minus İnquisitor Czevak and Inquisitor Jaq Draco has been inside the library

lyric ember
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wasnt there also a sister of battle

storm jungle
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Stern yeah, but shes mostly roaming around

lyric ember
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i see

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man now i wanna know how a tech priest would react to that

storm jungle
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Probably information overload

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the library has most "answers" to most subjects in the universe according to the lore

cunning wigeon
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What colour is space marine armour without all the ghastly paint jobs?

cunning wigeon
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Ah okay, ooc is it like a light grey or dark?

storm jungle
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Generally there's been references to it being matt grey, as a cheeky in-joke to being the same colour as unpainted miniatures. The Pre-Heresy Death Guard didn't paint their armour and gets a couple of descriptions:

As the Dusk Raiders, the XIVth Legion's armour was an unpainted storm grey. The entire right vambrace, gauntlet and shoulder plate (sometimes both) were painted the deep crimson of drying blood, which signified the XIVth Legion's status as the "red right hand" of the Emperor's justice.

Grey Knights also don't paint their armour and are silvery, but technically they use a slightly different type of armour:

fierce pendant
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Damn I was too late.

storm jungle
fierce pendant
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Brother Blobimus will get his revenge.

storm jungle
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damn him

cunning wigeon
storm jungle
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Yeee its just A BIT inconsistent

vapid tiger
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Ye

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Iron warriors are also supposed to be "unpainted"

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the hazard stripes actually being standard on just out of the factory imperial gear

cunning wigeon
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Didn't I see something about the hazard stripes being a bit of joke within the iron warriors?

atomic pelican
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Unpainted

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So we have a 3 way draw FBDB

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Actually now that I think abt it, it was Talon of Horus

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But same series

plush mason
atomic pelican
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Have u read a book

plush mason
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no its a joke lol

atomic pelican
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I figured not

plush mason
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and hell what little i do know of the black legion's lore its clear they are one of the better written chaos factions

atomic pelican
plush mason
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epic fail

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hell why do they have black armor?

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wasnt the sons of horus armor green or something

atomic pelican
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Its based on the black armor of the 1st honor guard of the SoH, terminators

plush mason
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i see

atomic pelican
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Abaddon led them

shadow plover
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ye the justaerin

atomic pelican
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Additionally, its sort of a symbol of their 'primarchless and leaving behind their old ways' nature

rose thorn
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Chaos question, so how exactly are there chaos undivided daemon princes?

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Is it just, random warp energy given to someone, is it like multiple gifts from multiple chaos gods?

cunning wigeon
atomic pelican
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Daemon princes dont happen randomly

rose thorn
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Got it thanks

rose thorn
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i know this isnt lore, but i had a dream that pokemon and 40k had a cross over and they added 1 pokemon, which was just a space marine helmet with kirby arms.

storm jungle
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awful

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truly the darkest timeline

rose thorn
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LIKE THIS

alpine ingot
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@storm jungle is... is that a raging/screaming wojak face on a nightlords body!? why the fuck does that fit them so well.

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after looking again that's just his regular model face huh, still I am keeping my prior comment as my head cannon

storm jungle
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It's Female Night Lord edit

vast frigate
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you mean the average karen?

storm jungle
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Not really but eh

alpine ingot
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still keeping the head cannon that its styled like a screaming wojak face

storm jungle
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👍

vast frigate
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The edit is funk tho

alpine ingot
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nightlords always screamed "It's not a phase dad!" to me and that model just exemplifies that with that face lol

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in all seriousness though, nightlords could use a bit more love in the modern setting. I really don't know of any major Nightlords in play right now lore wise.

storm jungle
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Pretty much lack of structure and being homeless people

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Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Word Bearers and World Eaters all got their primarchs

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Night Lords have been forever footnote IRL and in-lore

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if they didnt have the trilogy books they'd be 50% less interesting

alpine ingot
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the mental Image of a Nightlord begging for spare change on a corner is hilarious to me so thanks for the homeless comparison, and it's sad how right you are about that bit about the trilogy making them a lot more interesting, because besides that, Kurze, and Sevatar what do they really have?

storm jungle
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Yeah literally this

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they are a footnote chaos legion almost none of the writers care about anymore

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unless you get a big chaos event and the Night Lords are mentioned as "Oh yeah they are here doing the uhhh, idk terror attacks and killing Imperials, anyway moving on to the main plot."

alpine ingot
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reminds me of a bit in the Cadia stands book. Ratling sniper is picking off traitor guard officers and other choice targets and then he sees a blur of movement that turns out to be a space marine that's on the same level as him in the building, naturally he chooses to kill himself by jumping to his death. The Nightlord jumps down and reaches the ground faster then the ratling due to his weight and then proceeds to catch said ratling before he can go splat on the concrete.

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and then not one more mention of any Nightlords was made in the entire book

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the fucking Sons of Malice got more screen time then the Nightlords in that book

storm jungle
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Lmfao yeah

storm jungle
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I think it was a sorceror

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but close enough, shame legion anyway

vast frigate
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he ate their tools

wind flicker
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cadia sneeds

woven sandal
bright anvil
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Cadia sneezed

vapid tiger
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this is lore

rose thorn
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Yeah it’s adeptus ridiculous bite me, but I love this clip too much

vapid tiger
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space slann

rose thorn
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Do you ever think the space frogs will become a faction again ?

errant pike
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no

rose thorn
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Aka, literally just lizard men from AOS

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It’s so weird that they ported them in uhhh

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Seconds edition?

errant pike
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they're in aos?

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skaven blew up the moon on them but they're still around

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meanwhile tomb kings nu uh

rose thorn
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I’ve seen a video explaining it, but the lizard ppl, seraphon or what ever, weren’t selling well enough so they made their own playable army for 40K

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Daemon style

errant pike
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lmao

rose thorn
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Yeah lmao

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It was like, the left overs of the great old ones?

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And that also sold poorly because it was shoved in a white dwarf

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Also it’s fucking lizard people

storm jungle
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and were like

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"Okay this planet is done. Activate the spaceships."

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actual lore btw

errant pike
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lol

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good shit

vapid tiger
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it looks fucking small

woven sandal
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1000 Marines is not a ton.

vapid tiger
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yep

storm jungle
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Look at em gooo

vapid tiger
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how tf you "conquer star systems" with that

woven sandal
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Marines are very special.

storm jungle
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"Yeah just run 'em over with these."

lunar notch
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It has never made any sense. I don't have the best memory, but I think in that Word Bearers vs Ultramarines book there is something like a million Ultramarines gathered.

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There is a passage that describes how many Marines and ships and so forth have gathered to attack some Ork warbands and it's like the biggest build up of Ultramarines ever, and that's why the attack by the Word Bearers was especially deadly.

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Nevermind, it was 200,000

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Still an absurd number compared to the piddly 1k that Chapters use.

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Particularly because most large scale, sector wide battles barely ever use more than elements from half a dozen chapters.

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And even that 1k is smaller than 1k when you think about it since not all of them are standard Marines, you have Scouts and Termies, and other elements that are not really combatants like Tech-Marines and Apothecaries who can go into battle but mostly don't. Tech-Marines being too valuable and Apothecaries focusing on recovering geneseed.

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Yet we know there must be at least a million Marines.

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IMO, the most sensible retcon that GW could do would be to change Chapters to 10k Marines rather than 1k since before the HH books ever came out people always assumed that a Legion was 10k Marines.

woven sandal
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IIRC, it's something like 900 in the first 9 companies + a theoretically infinite number of scouts and attached personnel (i.e. Drivers, Techmarnies, Pilots, etc.).

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There are a lot of loopholes in the Codex Astartes, and given that as far as I'm aware Space Marines are almost never gathered at full chapter strength, it is almost entirely impossible to get an accurate count of how many Space Marines of a full chapter exist at any one time.

lunar notch
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I think that might not be the case, because I believe Roboute reaffirmed how many Marines were allowed per chapter when he came back. I'd need to check the 8/9th Ed codex since I believe the comments about this are in there.

woven sandal
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I'd bet that even if every chapter was as codex complaint as possible the number of full normal Marines in most of them would hover somewhere between 700 - 1100.

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And I imagine that chapters that are more distantly related to the Ultramarines play very loose with the Codex rules.

lunar notch
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I agree. I also can't see a case where they just stop recruiting just because.

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"Oh, we hit 10 companies? I guess we just stop getting more dudes."

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Despite that being decidedly stupid.

woven sandal
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I figure that there's constant offshoot chapters that get produced if a Marine chapter manages to get more than a company or two worth of extra full Marines up that it knows about.

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I don't believe for a second that Marine chapters aren't basically being constantly created.

lunar notch
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I was actually thinking about the problem of that earlier. Since founding a new chapter seems like an absolute nightmare given the equipment you'd need to do it.

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I also can't think of a single piece of fluff I've read that goes into detail about how a new chapter is able to actually equip themselves (vehicles, ships, armor, etc.) Without falling into the pocket of the AdMech. Or being a brand new founding as a result of Cawl.

woven sandal
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It just doesn't make sense. Yes, I understand that a space Marine chapter will send out dudes far and wide to just get into fights and help other Imperial forces, but even then, there's gotta be Chapters constantly getting created because not everywhere is Cadia or Armageddon and not every chapter will have the resources to get to those kinds of places anyway.

lunar notch
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Also, some of the Chapters make zero sense lmao

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Like, uh, what're they called.

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The Head Takers?

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I read their book forever and an age ago

woven sandal
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That one isn't listed on Lexicanum.

lunar notch
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Lemme see if I can find it

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Taker of Heads

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It's about the Mortifactors

woven sandal
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Still not seeing it on Lexicunum

woven sandal
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Ah, that was the title of a book. I thought that was the name of some Space Marines.

lunar notch
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Basically these guys are all from a world nearly completely deprived of fauna, it's a death world with lots of flora though, and they are also cannibals. They are all completely uneducated, probably inbred, I am talking basically dead ends.

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And yet they also have a Space Marine chapter.

woven sandal
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Neophytes who have not made a worthy kill in battle are not allowed to wear helmets and are all referred to as the Faceless, by their Blooded Battle Brothers.

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40k lore is a lot of times really cool, but sometimes it's pretty fucking grimderp.

lunar notch
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It was a decent story, but when you stepped back and thought about like how the fuck these guys could possibly have a chapter for even a moment it made no sense at all

woven sandal
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What possible reason could anyone have for forcing your Valuable Space Marine Neophytes to not fucking wear helmets in a fucking Warzone?

lunar notch
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Ironically it's the guys who wear helmets that have a problem in this story.

woven sandal
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Well, it seems like you found the only book in all of 40k lore where a Scout Marine is the main character, so I am not surprised.

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I think you could go quite a long time without ever finding out that Scout Marines exist even as a fairly avid reader of 40k lore.

lunar notch
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The conceit is also kinda stupid. I get that they are going for a sort of Enemy at the Gates but in Space Vietnam, but it doesn't make sense because at the end of the day the antagonist is a singular Tau sniper. Just one dude, and he's holding up like tens of thousands of Guardsman somehow.

woven sandal
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He's a very good sniper lul

signal hill
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Well, He can't Shine in melee, can He? But I guess it's kinda cool that some of the big Boys got their Asses Handels to them by a single Tau

plush mason
lament adder
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A wild trayzn the infinite has appeared I'd say lock everything down but he's already stolen it

proper helm
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Can humans tame squigs or are they programmed to see non-orkoids trying that and either murder or flee?

storm jungle
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With 40k im not sure

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in Warhammer Fantasy the only ones able to tame wild squigs are usually dark elf beastmasters

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...so its never really stated in its sci-fi sibling

plucky skiff
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Tzeentch = gaslight girlboss?

cunning wigeon
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Do the Raven Guard know Corvus just dipped into the rift?

storm jungle
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he actually went full edgelord and told them his last words.

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"Nevermore."

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GET IT?

errant pike
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no

dusk widget
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Quoth the Raven.

cunning wigeon
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Ah okay, but they don't know his ultimate fate right?

storm jungle
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Yeah they dont

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only that he left to get milk

cunning wigeon
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Poor lads

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Can't wait for Corvus to return and assassinate the Lords of the imperium for tyranny

vapid tiger
cunning wigeon
barren tapir
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Hol on... It has been officially stated that tanith people are from terran places of albia and europa!!

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Oh, and also that it was a democratically lead planet it seems

plush mason
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Catachan jungles, this is the largest type of the traditional knives of Catachan. Anywhere between three and four feet long, the Devil's Claw is closer to a short sword than a knife. its actually longer than a short sword lol

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which are normally around 22 to 32 inches in length

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3 to 4 feet is longsword ranges

plush mason
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im not sold on the voice

grand minnow
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He talked like twice, so im in between, mabey his lines were weird

plush mason
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its the sound for me

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it should be more raspy

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due to all the puss and shit in his throat

fierce pendant
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He has that old school Action/Horror movie "Evil Doctor/Mastermind voice." But rather than make some shitty monster, he creates plagues for papa nurgle.

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But the movements of his chin

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good god

tired umbra
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Kinda hot tbh

fierce pendant
shell pebble
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His massive Scrote Chin

storm jungle
vapid tiger
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ellila fat fetish

rose thorn
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I really like how slaanesh’s Azazel has angel wings

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It’s super cool

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Way coller then the bat wings

rose thorn
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Idk why but gray knights specializing in daemon killing feels kinda, odd, same as death watch with xenos. Like yeah they are the inquisitions tools for the right situation. But idk I’m just picky

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I think it’s a thing that there’s already a shit load of anti chaos

plush mason
atomic pelican
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Theyre just Better Marines™️

rose thorn
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yeah,, but i do lioke how they look

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at least for table top they dont have the primaris hell of a store page

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they remind me of my first love

✨ bretonnians ✨

tender igloo
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honestly chaos gate daemonhunters really made me like grey knights

rose thorn
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me too

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mainly because they are so fucking dramatic but the game is super cool and legit made me laugh

tender igloo
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i think grey knights work best in a story where they play to their role of being specialized for hunting daemons. you can really play up that idea, and i really think chaos gate did that pretty decently

rose thorn
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i really like that, theres a a solid chance of soemone knowing about sister
theres an okayish chance with deathwatch
no one who isnt directly linked or killed by gray knights know about them

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i like the stories kinda like tyranids, where its from the POV of the victims, they appear, no one is left alive, they leave

tender igloo
#

i also really liked how in chaos gate, you yourself are the force commander.

rose thorn
#

oh yeah its super fun

#

shame its bascially an xcom clone, but xcom is a format really really hard to fuck up

tender igloo
#

i think they added enough of their own to make it feel distinct from x-com, but i also love x-com

rose thorn
#

i love xcom too lmao

tender igloo
#

i hope we see more from the studio. because they did a pretty good job with the game

rose thorn
#

its kinda weird they went more like xcom 2/mechanicus instead of a chimera squad format.

#

but chimera is

not memorable in any way lmao

tender igloo
rose thorn
#

yeah, Chimera squad does alot of cool stuff but its isnt really enough to make it as fun as xcom 2

rose thorn
vapid tiger
#

They're cool tho

#

I just wish they were portrayed as more of like

#

One component of the Inquisition's "daemon hunter" subfaction as they were originally portrayed

#

Rather than getting all of that focus

rose thorn
#

i think i might get gray knights, they seem actually pretty easy to paint, custodie style

vapid tiger
#

Not a bad idea

#

I do like that siege of terra actually makes their backstory kind of neat considering that most horus heresy stuff is absolute schlock

rose thorn
#

oh yeah i think they would be more cool if they are just more like Inquisition Secret police

vapid tiger
#

Being a mixture of malcador's knights errant and the emperor actually deciding to redo the thousand sons using his own genetic material and hoping magnus would lead them

rose thorn
#

i actually dont know much about Gray knight lore

#

i really like they look like knights and have psyker bullets

vapid tiger
#

Like, that's what the Emperor was going to have Magnus do after leman russ brought him to terra had horus not intercepted the orders

#

Just give Magnus a new legion of grey knights and go "okay now go kill off your sons now :))))"

rose thorn
#

OhHh hh,

vapid tiger
#

"ur genetic material mutates too much :))))"

rose thorn
#

Actually gray knights would be way fuckingcooler if they had thousand sons geneseeed

vapid tiger
#

"KILL YOUR CHILDREN."

rose thorn
#

lmao

#

Oh im an idiot its grey not gray

vapid tiger
#

The funniest thing about it is that the scene is like

#

"Magnus, I love you, join me and help me conquer chaos, then you can sit on the golden throne, where we can explore the mysteries of the warp together forever in eternal bliss"

#

"Oh btw you've gotta get rid of those mutant kids though"

#

and magnus is like "hell no that's fucked up" and takes tzeentch's offer instead

rose thorn
#

lmao,

#

the emperor is terrible

plush mason
tawdry escarp
#

I don't like his hair

rose thorn
#

Why exactly would grey knights fight xenos anyway?

tawdry escarp
#

If a Xenos sees them, then they must die

rose thorn
storm jungle
#

He literally admits he learns lore through grimdank memes

#

which is like

#

the most braindead way to present 40k as a lore youtuber lmao

rose thorn
#

LMAO

storm jungle
#

IM NOT KIDDING

#

Go watch his "Top 10 untrue 40k memes" video or something

#

he was like

#

"So I learned that Krieg DONT use shovels at all in the lore"

rose thorn
#

The grimdank meme is one of the most imperial bias things I’ve ever seen lmao

#

It’s so human sided that 90% of Xenos memes is
‘Xenos being dumb and stupid hahaha space marines better’

storm jungle
#

Yeah like he has the right voice and presentation imo, its more the way he "learns lore" is actually dreadful

#

His space marine video is the wankiest shit ive ever listened to

rose thorn
#

There’s this other YouTube shorts guy who does mostly space marines like, grim dark dead lifts or something like that, who’s 100 times less bias

#

And actually reads lore

vast frigate
#

atleast, chances are those memes come somewhere from your posts

storm jungle
#

Nah

#

its just usual grimdank shit

vast frigate
#

ah right

#

i mean.. atleast he admits it..?

slender orchid
#

Nah. Only so many times you can see the same Eldar waifu memes (Yvraine now, Macha and Taldeer before her), the same "Get the Flamer Brother", Heresy, blah blah

#

Emwattnot's little comics with Alpharius always in the background are the saving grace of that sub. God bless Him/Her/Them (Don't know their pronouns)

storm jungle
#

also Emwattnot literally did the Macha and Taldeer meme on one occassion

slender orchid
#

Yeah, but everyone gets one free pass. Especially with comedic OC. Think it was the ladies night karaoke comic?

slender orchid
#

I would buy this mini. I almost want to kitbash this

vapid tiger
vapid tiger
#

I LIKE HIM EVEN LESS NOW???

#

what the actual fuck

plush mason
#

Lorgar was his favorite primarch so enough said

vapid tiger
#

Actually lorgar is mostly well written so

#

yeah makes sense

#

Although he is kind of weird in that his arc is just

#

Unresolved for the sake of sticking to the "he ascends to daemonhood post-heresy" fluff

plush mason
vapid tiger
#

ADB stated that he had pitched an idea during one of the Horus Heresy BL meetings a few years ago "while we were planning out what would happen during the siege"

#

Where lorgar dies

#

during the siege

#

and in his dying moments realizes he has made a huge mistake in converting to chaos

#

which would be fitting imo

#

But it was rejected on the grounds that they wanted daemon primarch lorgar to remain a thing

plush mason
#

oof

vapid tiger
#

i mean imo that would've been better

#

Since erebus and kor phaeron control the word bearers in 40k anyway

plush mason
vapid tiger
#

but no gotta have daemon primarch lorgar so corax can beat him up in a short story and presumably so they can make a model later

plush mason
#

so he started like most people do with warhammer. learning the memes first and then learning those arent true lol

storm jungle
#

"I learned 40k lore mostly from the memes you guys sent me"

lunar notch
#

Kinda annoying that only Horus, Curze, and maybe Alpharius/Omegon are dead.

#

And the rest can't even die. They can just have their plans mildly frustrated.

plush mason
vapid tiger
#

i will not watch this

#

mayhaps he will finally kill those memes

storm jungle
#

If I did it so can you lmao

#

do it coward

plush mason
#

lol

vapid tiger
#

Many of which are as old as RAGE COMICS

vapid tiger
#

I shall throw dilara into the sun

plush mason
#

like that whole video is just a shitpost

#

purely meant to piss people off

storm jungle
#

Its really not

#

he doesnt say anything controversial

#

he just lists memes

plush mason
#

and then jokes about why they make sense lore wise AFTER he stated that memes arent required to make sense lore wise lol

storm jungle
#

I mean

#

you say this like hes smart to begin with KEK

#

I genuinely doubt that was his intention at all

plush mason
#

hell i dont know the guy from adam

#

all im saying is he did learn from memes and then started reading the books

#

hell as far as loretubers go he is far from bad as he actively encourages people to tell him what he got wrong in the commits section unlike say arch that viscously defends his incorrect statements

#

like imo he is a good intro level loretuber due to his videos being fairly short and to the point unlike says a lutin who defiantly has better info but can be a bit overwhelming to newer community members

#

also he is a tictoker so there is that lol

#

which does make Wes the only tictoker i will ever defend and idk how i feel about that lol

rose thorn
wind flicker
#

well written characters dont fit nicely in poorly made memes

lunar notch
#

Any character can be distilled to a handful of tropes or traits.

#

You don't have to be 100% accurate, you just gotta be in the ballfield.

plush mason
#

how tall are the imperial titans again?

#

cause i dont think the warlord class is 60m

storm jungle
#

Warlords are pretty big

#

and yeah that comic is just wanking on titan sizes again

plush mason
#

yeah the warlord is 33m

storm jungle
#

yeah the colossal titan meanwhile is 60m iirc

plush mason
#

a little over half the colossal titan's size

storm jungle
#

yeee

plush mason
#

again GW down scaled them to much imo

storm jungle
#

when the actual writer of Titanicus told the authors to stop fucking up titan sizes it was kind of the last straw lmao

plush mason
#

doesnt tell me anything tho as i dont know those heights lol

storm jungle
#

Google is right there lol

plush mason
#

true

#

still imo the warhound should be like 20. reaver should be 30 or so warlord should be 50 and imperator should be like 70

tawdry escarp
#

To be fair, even if it was half his size, it would still kill him

#

Ass first

plush mason
#

not unless its able to get its guns up at the nape

#

titans in AOT are immune to all damage that isnt on the nape of the neck

tawdry escarp
#

Blow it's legs off, then decapitate

#

What about when levi sliced the beast titan to deli cuts

plush mason
#

you can immoblize a titan by cutting of its limbs but that wont damage it

storm jungle
#

Yeah its more to slow it down

#

even immobilised titans have killed people due to the scouts never being cautious

#

**CHOMP**

tawdry escarp
#

I don't think a warlord would have that same problem

plush mason
#

and with the colossal titan's steam just landing a shot on it is hard

tawdry escarp
#

The steam is a valid point

storm jungle
#

Oh yeah the steam

plush mason
#

istant smoke screen

storm jungle
#

ngl if that thing gets through like the void shield; idk how gasses work; it'd probably cook the entire crew KEK

plush mason
#

100%

storm jungle
plush mason
#

look what it to the fleet lol

storm jungle
#

lmfao

#

yeah like

#

the problem with imperial titans is

#

if its anything fast and can dodge its kinda fucked

#

literally slice its legs/push it and it will fall over

#

you pretty much need to keep out of sight

plush mason
#

yeah

storm jungle
#

but then again its why they got escorts

tawdry escarp
#

Do you think a lance of Knights would have a better chance then?

storm jungle
#

honestly Knights would probably just get kicked around or have their cockpits torn open

plush mason
#

your best bet honest is to snipe the nape or use an aircraft

storm jungle
#

or this yeah

#

as long as you aim well you should be fine

#

but on the other hand

#

imagine being a knight and seeing these mfers running at you KEK

plush mason
#

yeah the titans in AOT are nightmarishly fast

lunar notch
#

Guns are faster

storm jungle
#

Yeah

#

thats what the scouts said

#

and the marlayans

#

look what happened to them

plush mason
#

^

storm jungle
#

One titan can literally like

#

stand away

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crunch rocks in his hand

#

and throw them at you

lunar notch
storm jungle
#

and kill like half your battalion

plush mason
#

the beast titan

lyric ember
# lunar notch

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lunar notch
#

To be frank, the guns in 40k operate at stupid long distances where artillery is concerned. Titans wouldn't have a chance with some dude firing some form of Laser-Destructor from like 3km away.

tawdry escarp
#

Chaos corrupted titans would be an unholy nightmare

plush mason
#

i dont think that can happen

lunar notch
#

And if 40k artillery operates like IRL artillery then BVR would be very common.

#

Just firing 200mm shells from 40km away

tawdry escarp
#

Of course not, two completely different franchises

plush mason
#

i was talking more about how the titans in AOT are made lol

storm jungle
#

Spinal injection goes brrrr

plush mason
#

oh thats not how the form is made

tawdry escarp
#

They're still people, just mindless

storm jungle
#

And yeah they are basically animals

tawdry escarp
#

Perfect daemonhost

storm jungle
#

lmfao

tawdry escarp
#

Nothing to compete with

#

Just a meat jacket waiting to be worn

wind flicker
#

Wait no they retconned it with shub nwordath didnt they

#

Yeah

plush mason
# wind flicker Through demons

nope. Yimir the first titan is still "alive" in some strange interdimensional realm and she makes all the titan forms out of sand with nothing but a bucket

storm jungle
#

Will admit

#

after that point AOT just lost me lmao

#

more confusing than 40k lore

plush mason
#

yeah its both strange and fucked up

wind flicker
#
The H.P. Lovecraft Wiki

Shub-Niggurath, called The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young, is an Outer God in the Cthulhu Mythos of H. P. Lovecraft. The being first appeared in Lovecraft's revision story "The Last Test" (1928); in Lovecraft's fiction, she is never actually described, but is frequently mentioned or called upon in incantations. Shub-Niggurath also...

#

DERIVATIVE

storm jungle
#

You see

plush mason
#

like she is still a slave even after death

storm jungle
#

Lovecraft was just memeing at the time

storm jungle
#

I had no idea what the fuck is even happening anymore

wind flicker
storm jungle
plush mason
#

you know your racism is bad when even other victorians are saying its bad lol

wind flicker
#

After she fell in a pond under a tree

plush mason
wind flicker
#

How

#

Was it the fetishized cannibalism

plush mason
#

the whole reason only those with royal blood and use the founding titan is cause Yimir only follows the commands of those with said blood

wind flicker
#

But she has magical slug powers, is she just traumatized

plush mason
#

yeah she is trapped in her 13 year old self

#

its all fucked up and strange

wind flicker
#

Aot is too japanese for its own good

plush mason
#

more or less ya

wind flicker
#

Mikasas introduction and entire character

plush mason
#

like each titan body takes decades for her to make but in the mortal world it happens instantly

tawdry escarp
#

They do love giving children mental trauma

lunar notch
#

We killed God with the power of friendship

plush mason
#

and this gun we found

storm jungle
#

AOT is over too right?

wind flicker
lunar notch
#

The manga is, not the anime

wind flicker
plush mason
storm jungle
#

Ah good

wind flicker
#

Also eragon married mads mikkelson or something

lunar notch
#

There's a lot of cope that they'll change the ending in the anime.

storm jungle
#

also speaking of

#

let me see if My War 40k exists

wind flicker
#

The ending seemed bad tbh

#

But like

wind flicker
#

Fittingly bad

#

For the whole series

storm jungle
lunar notch
# plush mason why?

I don't know the intricacies, but my friend who is a giant fan of the series said that they ruin the main character's motivation and characterization right at the end and thus spoil the entire story retroactively.

plush mason
#

fail

wind flicker
#

Aot still has worse writing than knights of sidonia

storm jungle
#

dsfksdkjsd

#

man poor Eren

#

guy's character went south fast

wind flicker
#

"I'm gonna save my friends"

#

Becomes goebbels

#

Gets vored by his great great great great great great great great great great great gandma

storm jungle
#

dsfkjdkjsd

#

Bruh Moment

plush mason
wind flicker
#

His mom got eaten by like

#

His dads previous wife too

#

If I'm not wrong

storm jungle
#

all his friends got eaten

#

and vored

#

tough stuff

wind flicker
#

I cant believe armin died to ape shit at 300kph

#

Tragic

storm jungle
#

I almost made a joke

#

saying at least titans dont exist in 40k

#

then I remember Xenology

plush mason
#

?

lunar notch
#

It'd a vook

wind flicker
lunar notch
#

Book

storm jungle
#

It had this alien worm that literally makes you an AOT Titan

wind flicker
#

Can we talk

storm jungle
#

blood angels/dante fucked up and failed to exterminate it

wind flicker
#

Sit down

#

And have

lunar notch
#

Actually it's two books?

wind flicker
#

A serious discussion

lunar notch
#

I can't remember

storm jungle
#

Yeah

#

Xenology

#

then Xenologis

#

Xenology had like

#

MASSIVE lore dumps and takes

#

Xenologies is just

#

Alien

#

Picture

#

Text

storm jungle
lunar notch
#

I wish there was a game where the Umbra were the main antagonist.

wind flicker
#

Does anyone remember the name of the xenos that are literally just xenomorphs from alien?

#

They have tommygns

#

In the promo art

storm jungle
#

Thats genestealers

wind flicker
#

No it was different

storm jungle
#

not even a joke they were just ripoff xenomorphs

#

oh

wind flicker
#

They had some dumb name

storm jungle
#

OH WAIT

#

Do you mean the rak'gol

lunar notch
#

How old was the art?

wind flicker
#

Yes

#

The rakgol

storm jungle
#

same

wind flicker
#

And thats why gw should license alien

storm jungle
#

the Xenos do be Morphin

lunar notch
#

What a dumb species

wind flicker
#

Smokin a blunt

#

Goin

#

Dude what if we gave xeno drones a gun lmaoooo

storm jungle
#

dude

#

you are saying this

#

but

wind flicker
#

🔫 👾

storm jungle
#

Literal flying squirrels

plush mason
storm jungle
wind flicker
storm jungle
#

LOL

wind flicker
#

Spicy food xeno

rose thorn
wind flicker
#

The pathogen ones are

#

Xenos with guns is snore

rose thorn
#

Don’t they still use nuclear technology?

wind flicker
#

The british?

storm jungle
#

rickety ones yeah

plush mason
wind flicker
#

Theyre stone age I think

storm jungle
rose thorn
storm jungle
#

its good stuff

wind flicker
#

The 40k one too?

wind flicker
#

Im no longer interested in 40k outside of darktide

storm jungle
plush mason
#

like the whole point is to play into human psychology. if something cant be named it cant be understood and there for its even scary

storm jungle
#

xenomorphs are great for that yeah

#

i just love the thing

wind flicker
#

Ok

rose thorn
#

Because 40K lore blows.

Ynnari, more like ynno more lorei

wind flicker
#

I have to get out my writers hat

#

Then after a few minutes the victim again rises to his feet, like an undead, and begins to grow, sometimes reaching a height of at least 30 feet with appropriate bulkness.

#

Shapeshifting like this would make them paper thin

#

They'd die to buckshot

storm jungle
#

Yeah this is the like

#

same problem as resident evil bosses that instantly transform

storm jungle
#

where the fuck do they get all that biomass

wind flicker
#

Resident evil large forms at least make sense cuz like

#

"yeah thats a 3 ton biomass organ right there"

#

But human to skyscraper

storm jungle
#

Alcy SIMMONS LITERALLY TRANSFORMS INTO A FLESH T-REX

wind flicker
#

Is dumb

storm jungle
#

YEAH THAT

plush mason
woven sandal
wind flicker
#

Anyway, grab fireteam elite while waiting for darktide

plush mason
#

not yet

#

wait for the new expac

#

and see if they add a chat function to it lol

#

but i do love how much lore that crammed into that game

wind flicker
#

Me trying to tell my jarhead teammates to keep all 3 pillars at full health for the max reward

#

As they all go down to one spitter

#

Seinfeld funny music. Ogg

plush mason
#

just tape a box of crayons to the top and they will do everything in their power to keep them safe

wind flicker
#

True

slow prawn
wind flicker
#

In this thesis I will explain why all shape shifters are mandated to be incredibly heavy

vast frigate
#

Aliens and monsters being unique is exactly why i got books with refs and explanations for monsters and deformities instead of normal anatomy drawing guidea

#

Fuck your spine and your ankles, theyre reverse now

vapid tiger
#

I do like this artwork of a bunch of minor unnamed xenos species

rose thorn
vapid tiger
#

Which one

#

Gun face or big guy?

errant pike
#

top right

#

bottom left looks like a shark

rose thorn
#

Yeah top right

vapid tiger
#

Yeah they cool

rose thorn
#

I wish mercenary rules or something like that could come to 40K, like most xenos and maybe even chaos space marines can take a unit of mercenary minor xenos. Drukhari had a handful of minor xenos already in their use. Something for these guys to come to table top

rose thorn
vapid tiger
#

I like how this fanart makes him as big as a dreadnought

#

With the marine in his hand for scale

rose thorn
vapid tiger
#

Yeah

#

I can imagine them being this giant minor xenos species called "jotunn" or something that employ ork/kroot/chaos mercenaries or something

#

or work as mercenaries

rose thorn
# vapid tiger or work as mercenaries

yeah, idk what chaos would have mercenary rules wise besides chaos xenos, but it would be cool if eldar can get kroot mercenaries, tau could get fuckin uhhh, sslyth or waht ever the snake is called mercenaries.

#

just so we can get more shit like this

vapid tiger
#

Honestly the eldar need their auxilary range expanded because they have a lot of cool auxiliaries in the fluff who aren't on the table

#

Like the psychic sloths

#

The nicassar

rose thorn
#

oh thst sounds cool

#

and imperials could get rogue trader as mercenaries or imperial aligned xenos

vapid tiger
#

Tarellians are reptilian dog soldiers

#

Vorghs, who can apparently fight knights in hand to hand combat due to being huge

#

Galgs, these things

rose thorn
#

thats so ugly is amazing

vapid tiger
#

And ofc human auxiliaries which could literally just be an alternate guard kit like the brood brothers

#

Like, guardsmen with pulse carbines and fire warrior helmets or something

rose thorn
#

OH YEAH WHATS THAT 'minor' xenos thats just a shit laod of worms and is powerful enough that even the imperium cant deal witht htem

rose thorn
#

YEAH

vapid tiger
#

They're evil creatures

#

Maggot men

rose thorn
#

fuck i just want them as a faction

vapid tiger
#

One is gonna be the uh

rose thorn
#

or at least akillteam

#

they are so cool

vapid tiger
#

||antagonist of my dh campaign||

rose thorn
#

OOOOO

vapid tiger
#

They're virtually invincible against small arms

#

Since they just regenerate

rose thorn
#

i just imagine on table top they would be a super elite custodies style faction

vapid tiger
#

An astartes squad can fill one with bolter rounds and it'll keep going

#

You need like, flamethrowers and meltaguns and shit to actually kill them

#

And even then you need a lot of those

rose thorn
#

lmao they are so cool shame theyw ill probably never ever get lore again

#

Ynnari style

#

OH yeah do you think leagues of votann are going in the imperial or xenos faction

#

or what ever the 40k verison of grand alliance is called

#

honestly i hope they count as xenos so imperium doenst get the benefit of another count on thier tab

vapid tiger
#

Xenos

#

They're gonna be xenos

#

Especially since it's confirmed they've worked with the tau

vast frigate
#

Imperial

#

Sinxe they have ties with humanity

storm jungle
#

but they arent Imperium

#

or even care about them

#

unless they got MONEY

vapid tiger
#

also if anyone is interested in joining a dh campaign dm me

#

to be vetted

vapid tiger
#

Need a platform!

storm jungle
vapid tiger
#

imperium and eldar over here like "OHHHH THE TYRANIDS ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL"

#

Meanwhile the leagues are like "new steeve just dropped"

storm jungle
#

lmao

rose thorn
#

so we have space humans, space demons, space orcs, space elves, space dwarves, whats left on fantasy things to slap space onto

#

space zombies

#

hmmm

spark relic
#

Space rats

#

And no, ratlings do not count

rose thorn
#

Gonan be honest, I think porting skaven to 40K will literally just be control C control V from AOS to 40K

errant pike
#

no we have eldar for rats

proper helm
#

Nah it's the Guard

rose thorn
#

Tyranids tho

errant pike
#

i think it's actually orkz

spark relic
#

You all make valid points

#

but orks are orks

shadow plover
#

Imperium is space skaven

proper helm
#

The nids are missing the essential "horrible oppression and slavery" element that orks and guard have

errant pike
#

crappy engineering that shouldn't work, backstabbing

spark relic
#

how can they be otherwise?

proper helm
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ooh fair point

rose thorn
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Hmmm

Space…. Knights…. That’s already a thing

spark relic
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Kinda

rose thorn
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Space marines and imperial knights

spark relic
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The crusaders are a very minor group tho

rose thorn
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And chaos knights and chaos space marines

spark relic
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yeah but spaz mereens are everything

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Not just knights

rose thorn
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Space lizards were a thing…

spark relic
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Oh right, the Zoats

rose thorn
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No the lizards from Fantasy basically had a port to 40K

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In first edition I believe

spark relic
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really?

rose thorn
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Yeah

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Lizards weren’t selling

spark relic
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Not surprising tbh

rose thorn
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Lmao

spark relic
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I can understand why people didn't want to play the Aztec iguanas

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Besides, copypasting factions only works half of the time

rose thorn
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Yeah but that’s most of warhammer 40K

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DRAGONS

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SPACE

DRAGONS

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Bam done GW I demand 5% of the profits from The space dragons idea

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And no the necron void dragon doenst count

spark relic
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Prince Imrik is gonna flip his lid when he finds out he has been ported to space fantasy

rose thorn
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Damn space dragons remind me of endless legends.. what a good game

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I have no clue how-

FUCK SALAMANDERS

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AAA THEY ARE SPACE DRAGON MARINESSSS

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Space uh- uh- Canadians

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SALAMANDERS AGAIN FUCK

spark relic
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Uh... space Jamaicans

shadow plover
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Also check Black Dragons chapter

spark relic
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fuck

rose thorn
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Space uhhhh marines

DAMN IT

spark relic
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actual dragons when GW?

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I mean, I know we have the Salamander beasts from Nocturne but they can't fly so I'm not counting them

rose thorn
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not counting emperors children, waht do you think the next new faction will be for 40k

wind flicker
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Squats

rose thorn
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OH and after squats I mean

wind flicker
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Frogs

rose thorn
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The new original^(TM) 40K faction

I feel like AOS in a bit of a good place with so many factions that are almost not complete bullshit

rose thorn
wind flicker
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Space frogs

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With friendly skaven

rose thorn
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‘THE GREAT OLD ONES COMING BACK FOR ROUND 2 BITCHES’

lunar notch
rose thorn
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I hope one of the better known minor xenos become a faction

rose thorn
wind flicker
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Xenomorphs with guns and more sexy

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Rakgol gang

rose thorn
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Maggot men💕

lunar notch
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There has also been a lot of talk about them bringing back the LATD.

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Because they used to actually be an army

rose thorn
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mEHhh i guess i could see that, probably with the death of custom CSM warbands

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if htey bringback one of the lost primarchs i will be so pissed for no real reason

lunar notch
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They won't

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Abnett said he'd never write about it.

rose thorn
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yeah but

there is a chance and thats what scares me

broken bridge
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do bolters have firing pins?

lunar notch
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They should.

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You need to ignite a primer on the gyrojet round to burn the powder.

wind flicker
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Bolters don't have recoil

lunar notch
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Still need an igniter, and electric ones were absolutely not something that they knew about and are a pretty recent invention.

twin shoal
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It’s technology from the 41st millennium trying to judge it based on current understanding of technology’s kind of pointless

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Magic gun go pew pew

woven sandal
vapid tiger
wind flicker
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hot

vapid tiger
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😳

rose thorn
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Is their a Belakor aligned CSMs (not counting word bearers)

atomic pelican
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Belakor probably has servants but I dont think any big legion

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He has a knight house so Im sure he's swayed some CSM to his cause

rose thorn
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Idk why it feels weird he would have a knight hosue

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House

shadow plover
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he pretty much threw the planet they were protecting into the warp

atomic pelican
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Yeeee