40k-minis-and-armies

[frigid hinge]

if this is all you can think of for dark mechanicus you're as uncreative as the GW writers.

[placid kernel]

same reason there isnt a traitor guard codex

[frigid hinge]

smh

[placid kernel]

will probably just end up in the guard codex as a small mention

[edgy cipher]

Then please tell what the Dark Mechanicum has more than normal Mechanicus then

[brisk vapor]

spikes.

[snow magnet]

Daemons and shit

[frigid hinge]

The Dark Mechanicus/New Mechanicum has daemon engines yes, and some of the stuff the normal mechanicus has, but what it would really be in my eyes would be a chance to add new daemon engines, new spins on weapons, and add more HH era legio cybernetica stuff into 40k scale. It's a faction ripe for experimentation because they are ideologically the reverse of the mechanicus, they're the scientific faction, basically the only scientific faction in all of 40k aside from the tau maybe, so really they should be a faction that introduced new types of weapons and new exotic ideas and models. It's a faction that is ripe for some of the wackiest shit in 40k.

[crisp forge]

We had art of darkmech in the new Knight and Chaos codex

they are literally just spiky admech

[placid kernel]

also isnt it the dark mechanicum not mechanicus

[crisp forge]

lol

[edgy cipher]

So just the xenarites then ?

[placid kernel]

not to be an absolute nerd emoji that is

[edgy cipher]

And maybe the spider mechanicus from 30k

[crisp forge]

Also this is cool and all but you have no idea if people are gonna buy such a niche faction or not. You are pretty much just gambling on the notion that "people like them, they should sell"

GW are hacks and frauds sure but there is more to this business then just going yolo with a new faction out of nowhere ala the Squats

[frigid hinge]

"cool shit sells" is a simple model, make them cool and they will sell, it's not that complicated a notion in my eyes.

[placid kernel]

there are factions that they've tried to make before giving up because they didnt think theyd sell

like the progenitors of the nids that supposedly existed but didnt make the cut

[edgy cipher]

If it was that simple GW would do more non Primaris stuff

[crisp forge]

^

[frigid hinge]

something like that yeah, and really what might suffice is if GW released a codex for Dark Mechanicus with kitbashing in mind. No models just the book with some tips pages for how to convert models.

[placid kernel]

yeah, why try to make a cool new set of models when they can revamp old models for a popular faction

(cough cough space marines)

[crisp forge]

That too

[bold copper]

No model no rules is the GW motto

[edgy cipher]

Basing an entire codex on kitbashing would be terrible because that' would mean the price entry is twice as big as it is already for any normal 40k army

That's the worst thing I've ever heard

[snow magnet]

I’m not privy to the tabletop of 40k, but for me I think about how not too many people are into 40k and how even less people are into tabletop

[brisk vapor]

yeah it very rare to have rules for something that doesn't have an official model. Really thee only place I can think of it is the Horus Heresy

[frigid hinge]

Primaris sell because while their lore is a little busted they are cool looking, and they're easy to paint.

[snow magnet]

And yeah basing an army off of kit bashing is not a good idea

[edgy cipher]

And because they are the msot represented faction mostly

[placid kernel]

that still wouldnt do it though, people already had full marine armies with their own models they liked

thats why primaris arent just new models with old rules

[frigid hinge]

The price of GW shit is a tragedy, tis true, but Kitbashing is a major part of the hobby that deserves far more love and respect than it's gotten in recent times.

plus I've kitbashed on the cheap before and it can be quite affordable actually.

well kitbashed and scratchbashed

[bold copper]

Again outside of horus heresy, unless it has an official model then no rules will be made

[brisk vapor]

so you're expecting that one of the most niche factions would work with a even more niche hobbying method which is kitbashing

[frigid hinge]

Point is, New Mechanicum could be so much more than just spikier mechanicus, but that's all GW is comfortable to do.

[brisk vapor]

I mean sure it would be a pretty cool idea but a lot of work from the rules writers part which would amount to maybe a half a percent of the playerbase utilizing

[frigid hinge]

I want GW to take risks again and evolve as a company.

[bold copper]

Good luck with that

[brisk vapor]

as a company they've evolved quite tremendously within the past 5 years

[placid kernel]

making a brand new faction is still a risk, yes they deemed it safe enough to do but lets not pretend it isnt a risky step

just because you dont like that faction doesnt change that fact

[brisk vapor]

since Tom Kirby stepped down from the CEO position loads of things have gone so much better

[frigid hinge]

I want them to evolve in a good direction, not wherever bullshit they're headed right now.

[brisk vapor]

well they have

a lot

[frigid hinge]

Obviously this won't be happening in the near future, none of this is predicated on practicality, this is just my pipe dreams.

[frigid hinge]

name one good direction GW has gone in, in the last 2-3 years.

[brisk vapor]

GW in like 2016 was infamously bad

pretty much anything they've added or changed since 2018 has been for the better

[bold copper]

Bringing back fantasy, making horus heresy a mainline game, need I go on?

[placid kernel]

making the hobby easier to get into with smaller games such as underworlds

[crisp forge]

didnt their old CEO even get fired over half the shit he did

[brisk vapor]

rework of the 8th edition, improved hugely in 9th, AoS being the best fantasy game they've had

well not fired per se

he stepped down himself iirc

[crisp forge]

Not surprised

[frigid hinge]

Bringing back fantasy was just correcting a mistake, but I'll give you that one, Horus Heresy is good in concept but the execution is meh, making the hobby easier to get into is something good also I just wish they would make more cool and niche stuff.

[crisp forge]

There was no mistake

Fantasy was a dead end corpse

[brisk vapor]

well AoS is exactly that more cool and niche stuff

[placid kernel]

not to be an absolute chud but the stock prices and profit clearly show gw is moving in a better direction

[crisp forge]

^

that too

I like Fantasy more than AOS but killing it was the best decision

AOS is making more money than Fantasy ever did and WHF is still getting rpg support and more lore

the tabletop is just dead and its not like anyone really cares

[bold copper]

Even I will say that is because GW didn't support it properly

[edgy cipher]

Yup and it was their best decision too

[frigid hinge]

I could also mention Warhammer+, which was fucking atrocious.

is*

it's still going

[placid kernel]

its execution is awful yeah

[brisk vapor]

it could've been better but I've enjoyed it for what's it worth

[placid kernel]

but youd be hard pressed to say a central hub for the hobby is an awful thing

if youre a pirate and enjoy warhammer i imagine its great

looking at you @crisp forge

[frigid hinge]

They didn't have to butcher half the fanbase to make it with their draconian terms of service and copyright policies.

[placid kernel]

very true

[brisk vapor]

I'll just say that IP laws are batshit stupid which can be blamed for most of the ire those things caused

[frigid hinge]

If we're going to IP laws I've been of the opinion for a long time that Copyright laws in general should be abolished. They started out as a necessary evil to protect small artists and creators and allow them to profit off their work, these days they exist only for big corporations to hoard IPs.

[brisk vapor]

but what it's worth GW themselves didn't once enforce those laws on anyone minding their own business with the animations they made. Most people just got too spooked by the update and stopped on their own accord

[crisp forge]

Copyright laws are fine to a point

GW basically just did this enforcement shit for virtually no reason

they are madly overprotective over their IP as they have shown before, almost to a childish level

[placid kernel]

well kinda

[frigid hinge]

Sodaz got threatened with legal action.

[crisp forge]

Nah

[brisk vapor]

most of that can be traced back to Tom Kirby as well

[crisp forge]

Sodaz got harrassed by fans

[brisk vapor]

no he didn't

[placid kernel]

they happily lend it to shit mobile games

not that protective

[bold copper]

They don't want to be caught sleeping again like with warcraft

[crisp forge]

Yep

[crisp forge]

To be fair, thats a case more of giving unknown and tiny companies they can boss over their IP

GW would never partner with any Big Boys

[snow magnet]

They don’t want anyone with talent making their IP look good without them involved

[crisp forge]

the moment they lose hold of their IP they get mad

[frigid hinge]

I'm pretty sure he got an email telling him to take his animations down

[crisp forge]

Yeah but he was onboard with WH+

after that he got harrassed and the deal fell through

so he just gave up

[bold copper]

It was actually both GW and fans harassing him

[crisp forge]

Yeah i doubt GW would have done anything either but we'll never really know

[placid kernel]

Now all I can picture is a gw exec being shown a brilliant game and just saying "that's great, now make it shit"

[brisk vapor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/onl8vf/a_statement_on_sodaz_absolutelynothing_and_other/

[placid kernel]

They aren't comically evil guys

[brisk vapor]

I can't be bothered to re-read this but iirc this explains the situation quite well

[snow magnet]

I miss the astartes vids being on utube

[brisk vapor]

there are re-uploads

[snow magnet]

Yeah on some site nobody’s gonna visit lol

[brisk vapor]

not by Petersen though

no, on youtube

[snow magnet]

Oh, on the tube

[frigid hinge]

All I know is that GW had something good in their dedicated community, and they stomped it out through a combination of stupidity and maliciousness.

maliciousness in that they tried to crack down so hard on people who were their biggest fans
stupidity in that they didn't realize the knock-on effects that it would cause

[snow magnet]

The 40k IP is all they got in my eyes, so they want an iron fist around the distribution of it

[brisk vapor]

not really the case but the general consensus of the people who are not too well educated on the issue

[crisp forge]

either way the fanbase was being dumbasses as usual

Alfabusa put TTS on hold and BEGGED people to not flame war

and guess what they did

[frigid hinge]

the biggest problem was GW's bad communication/lack of communication.

[crisp forge]

ı mean yeah

have you seen the 40k fanbase

they dont care about anything you think. Just buy the minis.

[placid kernel]

Also you can hardly blame them for wanting control of an IP that features some of the vile shit in 40k and AoS, wouldn't want chuds like we get here occasionally being people's first experience with your IP

[brisk vapor]

that's because if they acknowledge these things it means they also have to start enforcing the copyright laws

ignoring is actually the best solution

for both parties

[crisp forge]

Yeah pretty much

like they are still asshole corpos

but most of their decisions make sense

at the end they dont really give a shit

[brisk vapor]

these things have so much grey area and the majority make it too black and white that it really just gets tiring to even talk about it anymore

[median pumice]

THE TRILOGY IS COMPLETE

[frigid hinge]

They tend to squander every good thing they've got going through either deliberate action or negligence. They have a good thing going then they fuck it up, they get another good thing going, then they fuck it up again. It's like they're unable to fucking cope with being a big corporation.

[placid kernel]

Don't think any business wants people that unironically support and defend a super fascist regime as the face of their community, makes sense they'd want to control it

[brisk vapor]

well what's the other good thing they've had and squandered than animations

and yes, becoming as huge as they've lately become will bring it's growing pains

[snow magnet]

I mean the animations were pretty fire

[brisk vapor]

the company has almost doubled in the past <10? years

[frigid hinge]

this is a trend that has been going on for decades mind you, GW building up good will then squandering it. 2016 GW is a good example of one of the downswings.

[brisk vapor]

well yes but that has change in a big way since Kirby left

I meant the nu-GW

[frigid hinge]

Well in this case it's something you have to look at from the long view, GW for decades has been a company that for every 2 steps forward has to take 1 step back.

as for nu-GW specifically I think they had a good thing going with their fan interaction and building up the community then they dropped their draconian fair use policy, and gobbled up all the animators in the fanbase, and did it all without telling anybody what they were doing, in the process burning a lot of good will, but that's really the main thing for nu-GW, anything else would be minor nitpicking in comparison.

[crisp forge]

Im pretty sure they laxed on those laws after this entire debacle

I still see 40k animations popping up since WH+ is tanking

[frigid hinge]

it doesn't repair the damage done to their reputation though

[crisp forge]

It does

at the end time makes people not give a shit

people will always buy their minis and make them money

it really doesnt matter

[placid kernel]

Yeah at the end of the day it's their IP, you want to play 40k you buy from gw one way or another

[frigid hinge]

I suppose if I had to name one thing that irritates me with nu-GW it's some of their pandering and public statements. It's only been very minor up til now and hopefully it stays that way but I'd hate for the fan community of 40k to be ripped apart like the fandoms for star wars or comics. GW should be concerned with making cool shit, and making money, and not picking sides in debates. It hasn't happened yet though, so we can be thankful for that.

[brisk vapor]

nah there has to be a harder take down on the fash and chud fans, they shouldn't want them to be part of what they do

In fact that's one of the best things nu-GW has done

[placid kernel]

Yeah don't think many people want to be associated with them just because they both enjoy the same hobby

It's already bad enough with the poor Krieg fans that can't escape people thinking they are some kinda fascist

[brisk vapor]

because if they don't and the fash people get a proper foothold to the hobby none else will ever want to join the scene

[placid kernel]

Poor guys

[vale sleet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/624324681029124115/993555424206917672/20220704_123049.jpg?width=954&height=464

Earthshaker battery proxy prototype i made, how is it?

[frigid hinge]

that looks really cool mate

[brisk vapor]

nifty!

[frigid hinge]

it'll need a lot of cleaning if you wanna get rid of those casting lines though

[snow magnet]

I still think I won’t be touching tabletop for a while personally, I can’t justify the prices just to get into model collecting

[vale sleet]

the lines i wont do since im gonna prime it, but i need to remove some tiny bits i messed up

and fix some minor incosistant things

i got a bigger one, but its even more messy

[frigid hinge]

I own a guardsman army and a tyranid army, and most of my stuff is not GW in origin, and I paid only a quarter of the cost because of it.

[snow magnet]

I mean getting it second hand is whatever, but still

[frigid hinge]

really invest in a decent 3d printer and suddenly your life becomes a thousand times cheaper

[brisk vapor]

3D printing is fun and all but I wouldn't go with it for full army building, might save some money in the end but the work you've gotta put into it is pretty massive compared to buying ready models ( and often the print quality is quite bad compared to cast miniatures )

I like to use 3D printing for different parts of the mini and adding more flavour to the army instead of whole models

[frigid hinge]

depends on the printer

[vale sleet]

I like 3d printing purely cause i like 3d modeling already, it may be less worth it if you dont

[frigid hinge]

I've got a resin printer and I can get near-caste quality with just a little bit of line clean-up

[brisk vapor]

well even with a 4k resin printer (or better) it's still a lot of work

[hasty sorrel]

so like what, you dont like them telling people to not be racist or?

[frigid hinge]

I'd rather they just didn't care, yes.

[brisk vapor]

not the right way at all, ignoring it gives it power

[hasty sorrel]

like do you have a need to be racist or?

[frigid hinge]

do you have a need to immediately jump to adhom?

[hasty sorrel]

i mean, if you arent being racist i dont see the problem

its just a statement

[vale sleet]

With any company it just feels hollow. it also ultimately doesnt matter honestly

[frigid hinge]

"if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear"

[vale sleet]

Im borderline with Viks argument but again, barely matters, they arent gonna stop selling minis to people

[frigid hinge]

It's disingenuous when a company does it, like what immortusk says, and it also just leads to division in the fan community when at the end of the day everyone buys the same models.

[hasty sorrel]

if theres division then maybe those fans arent wanted

[vale sleet]

To be fair, breathing causes division in a community

[hasty sorrel]

theres a reason theres been 147 bans here

[vale sleet]

Skele, i dont think your helping your point, with vik, it just makes it seem like "they" won

[hasty sorrel]

who lmao, there is no they

its simple, racists have no place in any community

[crisp forge]

^

the statements were needed

the moment they were made the chuds and racists threw up arms

[frigid hinge]

and as for ignoring it giving it power? I very much disagree with that. Ignoring it doesn't give it power, drawing attention to it gives it power. Why do you think the communities that have drawn the most attention to stuff like this, namely comics and star wars have ripped themselves apart so hard? When you draw hard lines in the sand it makes everyone with even vaguely similar beliefs congregate together, it leads to division and greater radicalization.

[crisp forge]

And I literally saw no negativity with them anywhere. Virtually everyone in the fandom was glad such a statement needed to be made.

What fucking radicalisation

[gentle phoenix]

What are you on about

[hasty sorrel]

ignoring it lead to a man dressed as a nazi turning up to the spanish open and calling himself the austrian painter

so like

ye shit needed to be said

[crisp forge]

👆

That event in spain was rough

[gentle phoenix]

That’s a lot of twisted logic to justify ignorance of racism

[vale sleet]

Yeah fuck thoes guys

[brisk vapor]

ignoring absolutely gives it power, it gives a message that "this is okay to do"

[crisp forge]

Yeah

[vale sleet]

The thing is, i know what vik means to say,

[gentle phoenix]

Ignoring racism doesn’t remove its power, it’s not Freddie Krueger

[crisp forge]

Lmfao

GENUINELY YEAH.

[hasty sorrel]

god i wish it was freddie krueger lmao

imagine

[vale sleet]

Personaly, i think all politics should be removed from tournaments, for or against whoever

[hasty sorrel]

racism turns you into a pizza

[gentle phoenix]

(This is a channel about 40k minis)

[crisp forge]

"No Space Marines. Bitch."

[crisp forge]

Not anymore. Death.

[junior blaze]

LMAO

[vale sleet]

in the far future, theres only politics

[hasty sorrel]

which is exactly why it had to be done. racism at tournies, and ignoring it, had caused an actual problem. The Statement was mostly to save face sure, but they've also actually put it into action at other tournies n shit

[frigid hinge]

Ignoring it doesn't make it go away, obviously, that's not what I'm trying to say. But what I'm trying to say is that the GW policy should be all real world politics out of this space. Doesn't matter if someone comes dressed as Hitler of Chairman Mau. Thank you Immortusk for being a blessing among these dark times.

[brisk vapor]

there literally cannot be spaces without "real life" politics

[gentle phoenix]

That’s so incredibly inappropriate at that rate it’s just common decency lol

[vale sleet]

legit, fuck you.

[brisk vapor]

lol, lmao

[gentle phoenix]

Wtf

[junior blaze]

Damn man

[hasty sorrel]

wew

[frigid hinge]

absolute totalitarian mindset

[gentle phoenix]

Smells like Americans in here

[junior blaze]

Lol what is this chat

[gentle phoenix]

Yeah

[smoky grail]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[frigid hinge]

I don't know anymore

[vale sleet]

Look, i live every day hearing this shit, "everything is political" it doesnt have to be. I never want it to be, we need some escapism

[hasty sorrel]

if people stopped showing up as nazis maybe id agree there can be no politics in an area

except the 40k cant help itself so GW had to actually do something

[vale sleet]

ok, we are in circles now, i lashed out

any good minis here?

[crisp forge]

Lmao

that went south fast

[placid kernel]

How about them minis huh?

Hew wee they're something

[crisp forge]

[placid kernel]

Little men made of plastic?

[smoky grail]

I like the little ones with guns on them

[placid kernel]

I'd've never thought I'd see such things in my time I tell you what

[gentle phoenix]

Have you guys heard of warhammer 40k

[frigid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgUrMRn0wJo
I really wanna try some of the stuff in this video at some point

[gentle phoenix]

It’s a tabletop game

[placid kernel]

What's a table

[frigid hinge]

some real cool ideas in this one

[hasty sorrel]

last bit before i get off n cook, iregardless on your feelings for it the statements have been a good thing, which is why they are pinned in general chat

[frigid hinge]

shush we, we're talking about minis now

[vale sleet]

imagine reading pinned messages

[placid kernel]

I'm asking what a table is

[vale sleet]

a long chair

[frigid hinge]

as I was saying about this video, I really really like some of the effects here and next time I get a chance I'm gonna be making some of those plasma blast effects.

[placid kernel]

Or if anyone has any experience with the kroot kt, they seem pretty memeable

[placid kernel]

Well this conflicts with the other answer I've heard of a food shelf

[vale sleet]

Not exactly kroot, but i was considering proxying my skinks into kroot

[frigid hinge]

I have a friend of mine who has some Kroot minis as part of an auxiliary to his tau army.

[placid kernel]

The kroot kill team seems pretty meh apart from the gory feast ability

Being able to eat some extra activation points sounds useful

[gentle phoenix]

I like that the kommandos are stronk

Almost makes me want to play kill team

[frigid hinge]

I really liked the Kroot model for Blackstone Fortress

[vale sleet]

Its not bad. Bit weird to play and your typicaly only using infantry

[frigid hinge]

BSF's got a lot of really cool models

Also Immortusk, you seem like a cool dude, I'm sending you a friend request

if you ever interested in other forms of tabletop like TTRPG, let me know.

[placid kernel]

That's the appeal to me mainly, smaller squad based action seems more balanced and strategic as you are losing a bigger amount of your force from a mistep

[gentle phoenix]

I want to get into it and buy a few ork kommandos but

m o n e y

[placid kernel]

Ah currency

[vale sleet]

Im a bit annoyed i cant bring hqs for necrons, kinda weird their mindless grunts are doins suposedly important stuff

[gentle phoenix]

I mean look at them

so cool...

[placid kernel]

Beanie guy is my favourite

Bullpup shoota

[snow magnet]

I love ork rocket launchers

[gentle phoenix]

the knife one is just so insanely cool to me

[snow magnet]

They’re just rockets plugged onto the end of a tube

[vale sleet]

I love the grot

[snow magnet]

Wait why does one of them have a scuba mask

That’s fucking great

[gentle phoenix]

ork spec ops is just the funniest idea and so well done

part of the appeal is the cool trailer they did ngl hahaha

this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3RmSKVnOw

[placid kernel]

Yeah same hwrw

Also I think the knife dude can throw his knives

Unusually dextrous for an ork

[snow magnet]

Dey kunnin’, dey is

[gentle phoenix]

propa kunning trikz

[placid kernel]

The raspy screams at the end always get me

[crisp forge]

I love how they even gave that one fucking ork WW2 S.A.S beanies and clothes

its so good

[gentle phoenix]

I enjoy that video's portrayal of orks away from the usual emphasis on their humorous aspects

[placid kernel]

I just appreciate they showed the korps more accurately

[gentle phoenix]

yeah not suicidal hahaha

UHM SHOVEL! XD

[crisp forge]

"Orks arent evil, they dont know any better"

Also beginning Ork: crushes man to death and actively smiles like a sadistic prick

[placid kernel]

Not wanting to die but will to get the job done

[gentle phoenix]

tries to shoot a exploding squig with a long las at close range

lmao

true commitment

[placid kernel]

The suicidal shovel maniac meme just makes me want to gauge my eyes out

[gentle phoenix]

they'd be shit soldiers if they just killed themselves constantly for no reason hahaha

[placid kernel]

Exactly

[gentle phoenix]

has to be tactical necessity

[vale sleet]

Thats why i like it

[placid kernel]

You want me to gauge my eyes out?

[vale sleet]

No, but upsets people

[placid kernel]

Or you like it for the cringe

I'm confused

Oh okay

[gentle phoenix]

anyway that's why I want to invest in some of the sneaky gitz

[placid kernel]

The lore for the latex grot

Hits me in the feels

[gentle phoenix]

these kind of models I've seen as well hahhaa

[placid kernel]

Hahaha

Love those boys

Seem like a barrel of laughs

I'll see myself out

[visual cliff]

Oooh you are not the only one. i'm a peaceful guy, but man do i sometimes wanna bash a man's skull in about those stupid shovelmemes.

its not the fact that they exist, but hell plz be creative and not just Hurr Durr Shovel .

[placid kernel]

just makes me feel bad for krieg fans, people assume you are a closet fascist or some shovel loving idiot lol

[vale sleet]

Gas mask are neat

[placid kernel]

agreed

doesn't need to be deeper than that

[visual cliff]

Yea there are 3 kinds of Kriegfans. Those that love the lore and Aesthetic they bring. Shovelfreaks and SaBAton booming gitz ..

[sweet depot]

We need more gas mask guard regiments tbh

[visual cliff]

mostly 2 and 3 combine into some unholy concoction

every regiment has some gasmask form.

vostryan karskin

steel legion

[sweet depot]

I do love those vostryan and kasrkin alot

[vale sleet]

Vostryan look cool, but i dont know their rules

[visual cliff]

they have none

[sweet depot]

Chem dogs are my other favorite gas mask regiment

[sweet depot]

Its so over 😫

[visual cliff]

oh wait

i found some

[sweet depot]

LETS GOOOOOOO

[visual cliff]

VOSTROYAN: HEIRLOOM WEAPONS
Each and every Vostroyan weapon is lovingly hand-crafted and engraved with intricate ornamental detail. These are no artisanal trinkets, however, as victims of their deadly accurate firepower will attest.

Units with this doctrine can add 6" to the maximum range of Heavy or Rapid Fire weapons they fire which would normally have a range of 24" or more.

the rest is overlapping with the Astra militarum rules

.

the Krieg one is Meh.

KRIEG: CULT OF SACRIFICE
The Death Korps of Krieg are unafraid of death, famed for their willingness to fight no matter the odds and sacrifice themselves on the field of battle in the Emperor’s name.

Each time a Combat Attrition test is taken for a unit with this doctrine, ignore any or all modifiers.
If a CHARACTER or VEHICLE unit with this doctrine is destroyed by an attack made by an enemy model, and that model did not explode, roll one D6. On a 4+, do not remove the destroyed model from play – it can, after the attacking model’s unit has finished making its attacks, either shoot with one of its ranged weapons as if it were your Shooting phase, or make one attack with one of its melee weapons as if it were the Fight phase (when resolving these attacks your model is considered to have 1 wound remaining). After resolving these attacks, the destroyed model is then removed.

[sweet depot]

shame

[visual cliff]

they shouldnt need to take a morale test at ALL

[sweet depot]

Didn't it use to be they didn't have to take moral or am I thinking of something else?

[visual cliff]

it used to be even worse

[sweet depot]

Oh damn

[visual cliff]

no its almost similar

This unit ignores models slain in the Shooting phase when taking Morale tests.

and nothing with the ... on a 4+ ... so it got a bit better.

but we lost a few very good units

Grenadiers , Centaur and gorgon among a few

[pastel grotto]

4. The guy trying to make steel legion after they discontinued the models

[visual cliff]

technical not a krieg fan but a steel legion fan

[pastel grotto]

Oh I love krieg but I prefer them with steel Legion colours

But then I have the conundrum of:

Am I using krieg or legion

[quaint halo]

Decided to get off my ass and start painting minies again

[errant fulcrum]

age of darkness contemptor dreadnought Black templar edition

[junior blaze]

god i want one

[tiny thistle]

The greatest union of man and machine

[cloud pivot]

you guys seen the new squat models

[royal compass]

I'll need to see them with helmets on

[edgy cipher]

Bottom right

[gentle phoenix]

They look goofy asf to me lol

StarCraft looking asses

[white stag]

Given what the old 2e squat exo armor looked like, I'll take these

[lost willow]

this looked like kinder egg with weapons

[plush swift]

human version = kinder egg
squat version = meaner egg

[tiny thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-goomba-walking-walk-mad-gif-17716403

Goomba looking mf

[left ingot]

my custom kerillian arrived, looks crisp 👌 just need to add her bangs

[cloud pivot]

fr dude lmao

[sweet depot]

Very powerful, I actually prefer this look because how goofy it is

[brisk vapor]

Step by step

[median pumice]

You guys think gw should head to more true scale stuff than the heroic scale theyve been doing?

[white stag]

True scale at what scale?

[spring arch]

Meaning no oversized hands and weapons

But actually, no. They should keep heroic scale because it's just easier to see on the tabletop

[vale sleet]

Yeah its basicaly their style like you know its warhammer

[narrow lagoon]

Always thinking about those guys (AoW Planetfall Dvar) when i see something about the league.

[urban harbor]

wtf are those?

[sage matrix]

Look like armored ogryn

[dawn stream]

Dwarf-punk

[left ingot]

i feel like i have been exposed to too much plastic glue lmao

never feels like i've washed it all off my hands

[sage matrix]

Yes I just picked up a Dark Vengeance set with the limited edition chaplain 🤟🤟🤟

[bold copper]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-henry-cavill-smile-handsome-gif-9180170

[pseudo kindle]

As a very bad painter, I tried painting Poxwalkers using zenithal and Contrast, and it was fast and not that bad! (they're not entirely finished, there's some polishing to do left, like the base)

[wooden pier]

Just a krieg Marshal since I talked about em in #general-chat

[wispy zinc]

[FR]
Salut,
J'ai remis la main sur mon livre d'armée WH40K de 1998 en VF.

Est-ce que quelqu'un le veut ?
Auquel cas 1€ + Transport en colis suivi (selon votre localisation).

Il ne comporte aucune annotation.
Il est en bon état.

[sage matrix]

salut! le livre est-il en anglais ou en français?

aussi je ne sais pas s'il est permis d'effectuer des transactions via ce serveur. c'est peut-être contraire aux règles

[wispy zinc]

Il est en VF.
Je retirerai le message si c'est hors règle.
Mais c'set ça ou vendredi il est à la poubelle 😛

[royal compass]

mince 98 c'était quelle édition ça... tu me fais me sentir vieux d'un coup

c'est l'année de mon bac quoi...

[celest goblet]

I bought a spare dreadnought for when I get a HH kit and the posing on your Dreadnought is really making me wish I had the money to get the box faster but I gotta try and punch my shame pile

[pastel grotto]

Yup, heroforge

[left ingot]

Needs some very obvious cleanup because this was the most meticulous glue-job ive ever done but i added Kerillian’s hair and elf ears to the best of my ability

[left ingot]

U cant deny they got options

[pastel grotto]

yis is good

[left ingot]

I'm hoping a lot of this will look cleaner when its primed + painted

hard to get the detail in a photo lol

[dusk osprey]

Putting together a darktide killteam, got ogryn psyker and zealot so far

Gunna use a guardsman body and Scion head for veteran

[urban harbor]

nice

[royal coral]

oooh leagues of votann got massive mini lore upgrades

[royal coral]

these look rad.

[civic anchor]

I am going to be doing a moebian sixth guard unit, for their armor should I do a base coat of leadbelcher with dry brushed black or should I do the reverse?

Also for their fatigues should I do Zandri dust or a lighter shade of grey/black

[feral summit]

you could do zandri dust and make it darker with a shade

might look good idk

[civic anchor]

What about the armor?

Black with metal drybrush?

Or should I mix the two and base them?

[untold stirrup]

You're going for a metallic black?

[civic anchor]

Yes

I don't have traitor guardsmen so I am going to kitbash them into Moebian 6th traitor guard as best as possible.

I don't know how to get the base armor color going though

This color scheme

[plain imp]

Me at 3 am when I gotta tell someone about the God Emperor

[royal compass]

me at 3 am on a Sunday morning https://warofsigmarus.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture1/6240/M5ZeaHiy1BAKHJJ6.jpg

[untold stirrup]

For a metallic black, then, I would suggest starting with your metallic color and then glazing on your black

[untold stirrup]

One thing that can help with this is the black contrast paint with some contrast medium

[feral ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/edna-incredibles-grin-smile-gif-20184712

It's literally the meme

where she and hellen are SoB's

[twilit cliff]

i don't know what it is

but this one looks like it fits in with your tablecover/keyboard/monitor

[left ingot]

hell yeah I may have to put together the darktide team some day as well

after I finish the ubersreik 5

[civic anchor]

Thanks I will try that on a test guardsmen that has no legs 😂

[untold stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812585242723352636/994531536923799642/20220707_051128.jpg

[civic anchor]

Nice rubric Marines bro

[tacit lichen]

Angry Space Wolf noises

[novel fox]

stunning!

[untold stirrup]

Quiet, furry

[wooden pier]

Gargamel legioneers reporting for duty.

[untold stirrup]

If GW had any stones, they would have let the TS destroy Fenris

[tacit lichen]

Well, instead, they have brains. 😏

[untold stirrup]

No

[tacit lichen]

...At least half the time.

[untold stirrup]

GW has some pretty terrible writing in their stuff tbh

Like, Space Wolves are pretty cringe and they really shouldn't be

I want to like them

[wooden pier]

Even more.

[untold stirrup]

But I just can't

[wooden pier]

Talking about space corgies of russ? Go to #pet-tide

Thats where you talk about doggos

[untold stirrup]

Like, the lore for Space Wolves reads like a bad homebrew chapter

"They fought the Inquisition but fought them off because... reasons!"

[wooden pier]

I guess ill just keep postning untill someone gives me some seratonin

[untold stirrup]

Cultists?

[wooden pier]

Yes sir

[untold stirrup]

Are these Red Corsairs?

[wooden pier]

Nope, word bearers.

Need more mutation maybe

[untold stirrup]

Ah, I see

Maybe it's how bright they are on the camera

[wooden pier]

Totaly not chaplain mbby

[untold stirrup]

Kitbashing is based

[tacit lichen]

...Thoughts on the Blood Angels?

[untold stirrup]

I don't know enough about them

[wooden pier]

Space vampires

[tacit lichen]

I prefer space vikings.

[wooden pier]

Prefere them as noble Princes from 30k

[wooden pier]

Sadly there only space furry slavic vayagir

[untold stirrup]

I do like Sanguinius

[wooden pier]

Hes the primarch i dislike the least.

Because he understood that big E lied to the humanity about chaos to protect them

Compared to the bunch of self entitled misfit primarches BUUU MY DADDY LIED TO ME NOW IM GOING TO SLAUGHTER THE WHOLE UNIVERSE WITH SERIOUS POWERS I DONT UNDERSTAND BOOOHOOO

Fucking bitchin like children.

[untold stirrup]

To be fair, Mortarion's general attitude caused him to turn. He realized that he'd traded one tyrant for another

Plus Alpharius and Omegon's whole... thing

The vision they were given

Magnus was "fuck you, I do what I want." Lorgar was looking for a higher power to worship.

[celest goblet]

Angron just had nails in his head that I'm pretty sure Emps could've trained people to help remove.
And also the fact that Emps was a bitch boy and didn't help Angrons Friends

[untold stirrup]

This is a lot of lore talk in the minis channel lol

[wooden pier]

You are right. Here have some minies

[untold stirrup]

Based Krieg

[compact umbra]

'Oh fuck yeah the noise sonic weapons are back-- no never mind its the shitty one.'

its so trahs lmao, you dobt even get enough stuff for a full unit of noise marines

a blast master, a doom siren, and a sonic blaster

OH YEAH correct me if im wrong but noise marines dont have melee options nay more

[untold stirrup]

I'm not sure

I do think they've made some pretty dumb blunders with the new chaos codex, though

No custom warbands, weapon options removed for many units

Plus no chaos lord with a jump pack?

Like, what?

The new rules and strats seem pretty good, but I'm much more of a hobbyist than a tabletop gamer

[compact umbra]

yeah i saw the jump pack leak and i was thinking that they would reuse CL with jump pack model for a new type of HQ or something

like fuckin uHhhh thats his name of the BL

except for other legions

[untold stirrup]

Haarken Worldclaimer

[compact umbra]

yeah they did some really sick shit but, idk about other legions, but EC are really good but it seems like they forgot something

[compact umbra]

yeah a haarken type HQ for other armies

[untold stirrup]

I think the Night Lords have some kind of relic that lets their lord fly?

[compact umbra]

like, if you play EC all units that can take mark of slaanesh has to take mark of slaanesh

[untold stirrup]

But that's it

[compact umbra]

otherwise they have the slaanesh keyword

which is good for stuff that cant take marks

but otherwise all your units will msot likely cost 15 extra points

EXCEPT noise marines as they auto come iwth the mark of slaanesh

so in my opinion, theres no real point to take legionaries as Noise mariens in EC cpunt as troops

they are obviously setting up for the EC codex but thats not for a hot while

[elfin yew]

Arent the marks of slaanesh free for EC or am I misremembering

My codex still hasnt arrived yet

[bold copper]

iirc no. the thing with EC is that you have to give them mark of slaanesh wherever possible

[elfin yew]

Ahh

Black Crusade is such a funny rpg, playing a CSM character has me feeling this

[placid kernel]

Words cannot explain how happy I am that gw didn't give the vet guardsman kill team a shovel weapon

[median pumice]

They sorta did

But they also gave them the much cooler entrenching pick

[snow horizon]

heres what i've been workin on https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664510841034637313/993615097106804786/unknown.png?width=1618&height=910

[median pumice]

Beautiful shades of green!

[placid kernel]

Are these not for equipment on the models?

Rather than armaments

[median pumice]

They're for further flare I guess to customize and stuff

[snow horizon]

the sons of horus are the most attractive space marines ever imo

heres a couple closeups since I used different heads,

[median pumice]

Looks fantastic!

[median pumice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBoOALzjHa8

Hold onto those wallets friendos

[obsidian ocean]

You might enjoy this one ;)
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/424220895192678403/988779899898691664/unknown.png||

[errant fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729894117647319040/994735290151358584/7C6CC8A2-F16F-410E-8E1D-1194C7D52608.jpg

[compact umbra]

CHAOS NOISE DWARFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[urban harbor]

KRATOS!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-summon-axe-video-game-gif-17304528

[errant fulcrum]

lol

[gentle phoenix]

OMG RED AXE, KRATOS PLAYS VERMINTIDE 2???!

[urban harbor]

lol

[obsidian ocean]

Might get to building a complete unit of them but there are a lot of chaos and regular squat in my backlog, and won't have time to work on them until after the summer :( Will dedicate one of my squat armies to chaos

[compact umbra]

I wish chaos squat swill come back

[obsidian ocean]

I'm sure they will give them a kill team but a dedicated chaos subfaction would be amazing

[vale sleet]

They have rules for daemons and some chaos guys but not a specific killteam

[untold stirrup]

Chaos has a killteam

I forget what it's called, though

The one where they showed off that guy who was way too happy

The Nachmund box, I think

Looks like it's just called the Legionary kill team lol

[elfin yew]

Yeah its just legionares

Kinda like the Pathfinder KT, a alt kit for another unit

[obsidian ocean]

Another chaos squat, the results of a first attempt of oyumaru moulds filled with greenstuff+milliput. He still needs a weapon swap on his right arm, basing and paint. Some of the moulds were to thin and cracked (like the front of the torso), mixed a few squat kits and a head of the metal sculpt in the picture. Might even give him a sword, more spikes and call him squatbadon. Starting an armoury with these green bits based of the different squat (and Grombrindal) exo armour parts and models from the collection. Might be able to eventually build a proxy CSM kill team from the new green bits, or even an army

[placid kernel]

https://youtu.be/0z_PrQWk1WU

@compact umbra you like chaos daemons right?

[rocky badge]

i like the deep striking based on leadership

really thematic

[edgy cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601926113958166538/994907773571698738/SPOILER_SPOILER_IMG_8203.jpg

New angron spotted

[brisk vapor]

the leaks really can't be contained can they

[quaint halo]

Much like the warp

[royal compass]

can Blackstone contain leaks though?

so, those are new guardsmen, right? Current Cadians don't have backpacks

[edgy cipher]

Those that were teased with the new Creed yeah

[white stag]

I'm guessing they're the kasrkin or however it's spelled

[edgy cipher]

nope, those are normal ass guardsmen

[placid kernel]

So the warpcoven kill team is sorcerer spam but then what? The tzangors don't seem particularly great but an icon bearer and gunner seem so difficult for them to outclass

[sage matrix]

HELLO PEOPLE

New zerkers also in pick!

[edgy cipher]

One simple picture but with 3 new units in it

if not more

[twilit cliff]

i believe those are updated cadians

at this point i want a date and uh... maybe another regiment? 👀 but i doubt it

[placid kernel]

What would you want from a new regiment?

[twilit cliff]

i'm open to a lot of things

[placid kernel]

What regiment specialism are the guard missing rule wise

[twilit cliff]

something that has at least a completely different silhouette than cadians

i know we got those catachans but those are old as hell

[edgy cipher]

Sadly seeing hwo GW is doing thigns, at best we'll get conversion bits

[twilit cliff]

personally i'm partial to elysian droptroops, armageddon steel legion, mordian iron guard, maccabian janissaries, kaledon hunters

kaledon hunters would probably be my dream release

[obsidian ocean]

I guess by playstyle we could do with new Tallarn. If I can pick any regiments I want in plastc I'd like to see Remus and some other funky regiments

[twilit cliff]

yeah but like zher said

but then again, nothings stopping you from building new regiments out of third party parts

[edgy cipher]

Oh def, or using a 3dprinter

If GW doesn't provide the goods, someone will

[twilit cliff]

and gitgud at cad if you want to get really into it

[plush swift]

yarrrrr, time to sail the high seas!

[pseudo kindle]

There are a lot of third party manufacturers with nice models/parts for IG regiments. I like Wargames Atlantic quite a lot, as a box contains 24 models (with no bases) for the price of the 10 Cadian Infantry box.

[plush swift]

Yeah I remember the Grognards

good Vostroyan substitutes

[errant fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713599297161265212/994981650414964847/IMG_7829.jpg

WIP kratos tank

[untold stirrup]

Tzaangors have numbers

When you do a warpcoven list, they count as 1, while rubrics count as 2

You can have twice as many

[placid kernel]

Yeah I saw that, but didn't know how valuable raw numbers are in kill team

[untold stirrup]

More effective objective play, I guess

Plus rubrics are slow, as you can imagine

Don't take my word for it though. I've yet to play a single game yet

[placid kernel]

Same here lol, but i love list building

And it's unlikely I'll be able to convince my mates to join me, they like Underworlds and 500 point games of AoS more than anything 40k

[untold stirrup]

[bold copper]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/08/tremble-before-the-rage-of-angron-daemon-primarch-of-khorne/

[urban harbor]

Angron is arguably the most tragic figure of the Horus Heresy, a tormented soul failed by everyone. Used as a weapon by his masters, his hated father, and even his brother Horus, Angron’s fall to damnation could so easily have been prevented. But fall he did – and his current form bears horrifying witness to 10,000 years of pure hate.

so very true

[bold copper]

truly a wonderful model

makes me excited to see what else the world eaters get

[errant fulcrum]

Still need to work on the kratos but I like how it’s coming along so far

[tulip cairn]

I hope new Berzerker models

also Raptors/warp talons are sold out on the GW store

which is weird

[compact umbra]

YESYESYEZYESYESYESYES

[compact umbra]

I VERY MYCH SO AND I HAVE ALREADY SO, I PRAY THAT DAEMONS ARE NEXT

[proper canopy]

You'd think it was Fullgrim they are keeping prisoner in Age of Sigmar with how long it's taking any good Slaanesh release stuff

[feral ingot]

When did Angron become hella sexy

[hoary ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729853618689146973/993304736134594630/20220704_015749.jpg

🤔

[sturdy trellis]

You’re insane

Do it

[placid kernel]

If there are leaks now then I'd assume daemons aren't the furthest thing away atm

Though might be early playtest versions

[compact umbra]

Maybe just maybe

It’s a possibility but

Maybe daemons will get a new non character unit

Like a new khrone infantry or anything

[errant fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729894117647319040/995032996186955897/IMG_7831.jpg

[bold copper]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494561

[errant fulcrum]

thank you

The kratos is a cool tank to paint, to build on the other hand will make you want to pull your hair out

[untold stirrup]

It looks more like a tank than that heap of primaris garbage

[errant fulcrum]

lol

[untold stirrup]

Also, that paint job is very clean.

[errant fulcrum]

thanks! this is the biggest model I painted so far

[untold stirrup]

now edge highlight it

[errant fulcrum]

no please

I value my sanity

[untold stirrup]

[errant fulcrum]

Maybe another day

[untold stirrup]

Honestly, you can get some pretty good highlights with a light drybrush

[feral ingot]

oh shit HD picture

VERY NICE

[untold stirrup]

But that's something I would do on the black before painting the rest

Don't be insane like me

[errant fulcrum]

ight thanks for the advice

[sage matrix]

It’s here it’s here it’s here

[untold stirrup]

Which one is that?

[sage matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-ruso-viernes-gif-10538731

The one whithe the limited edition chaplain for the dark angels 👌

[untold stirrup]

I'm not familiar with it

[edgy cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/975899380215345243/995024598900932708/results_2.png

[white stag]

Isn't that the old dark angels vs orks box set?

[hushed tangle]

It's Dark Angel's and Chaos marines

[untold stirrup]

Those cultists look better than the new ones lmao

[hushed tangle]

Everything on the chaos side looks amazing imo

[untold stirrup]

Yeah

[untold stirrup]

Doesn't seem like you can get any of the chaos stuff from gw anymore

[kind lava]

the angron daemon primarch "mini" looks pretty sweet

https://youtu.be/HBIA4_AO4X4

if you havent seen it

[untold stirrup]

It's interesting

Maybe a little too demon-like, though.

Looks good, regardless

[sage matrix]

What’s cool is that exclusive chaplain model comes with the box limited edition box

[urban harbor]

bah he never loved angron so its no big deal here

[elfin yew]

Get his ass

[junior blaze]

i want it

[junior blaze]

BLOOD

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS

[urban harbor]

lol true

[plush swift]

I read Fulgrim three time

😳 Still the best history of HH imo

The Storytelling, the fall of Fulgrim

Perfection

[shell yacht]

Question formed from an odd story of mine, but what army would this fit best when converting it?

[crisp forge]

Most.. likely tau i think?

[fickle owl]

here me out, Orks.

first you'd think you're fighting a Stompa, then it turns into a Fighta bomber

[polar jackal]

Votann

[crisp forge]

[urban harbor]

if the votann dont get something like a thor from sc2 ima be very disappointed

[polar jackal]

they'll get slayers

but in space

!!!!

[urban harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[fickle owl]

Admech: what do you have there?
Votann: ... A smoothie...

[obsidian ocean]

Those sorta used to be a thing, the (3 different sculpts) unreleased squat cyber-slayers

[urban harbor]

yes

[fair vine]

A friend of mine painted this guy and gave it to me as a gift

[urban harbor]

lovely

[quaint halo]

Oops realized I posted memes in the wrong thread

[fickle owl]

I mean... it fit the current topic of Angron

[tight urchin]

They just officially revealed it

I'm upset

There's no magna melta option but they included the heavy flamer sponsons

So you can only partially build a predator infernus

I wanted at least one with a magna melta

What the fuck am I supposed to do now

[median pumice]

Ugh, knowing James Workshop, its gonna be a resin upgrade probably lmao

[tight urchin]

Fuck

[median pumice]

Who knows, it might have some more info later

For now, I'd just... hold off until more info haha

[tight urchin]

Eh it's no biggie

[median pumice]

My current build for my army is mostly infantry with some armor support so tanks may not be in my future... but who knows?

[median pumice]

Finished off the yellow for my tactical marines, and started on this guy. First time trying my airbrush. Takes some getting used to.

A lot of getting used to.

But i honestly think its worth it.

[cloud pivot]

the beasts have fallen

i can finally fully close the paint

[hoary ermine]

ah yes

the good old cracked up GW pots

[twilit cliff]

listening to pale swordsman hm?

[cloud pivot]

yes

[twilit cliff]

it's gud

probably one of my favourite albums of the past few years

[polar jackal]

I'm stealing and saving that. And then printing it to have it on my fridge.

Thank you.

[cloud pivot]

yea it's nice

[bold copper]

My first real kitbash. Not very spectacular, but the extra bits finally got some use

[edgy cipher]

We all need to start somewhere

Plus its pretty nice

[twilit cliff]

hey good job

i like it, fits well together

[dusky mango]

Looks awesome!

[marble sorrel]

looks good king

[edgy cipher]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/512804521601269764/994277379604234320/unknown-34.png @hasty sorrel I was right

My trolling was actually right

Votann will come before Guard

[hasty sorrel]

yup

we called this ages ago

[brisk vapor]

I thought that was obvious

[placid kernel]

Surely it'll have to be one hell of an upgrade sprue for the genestealers, those models show their age hard

[compact umbra]

No… dameons?

https://tenor.com/view/crying-black-guy-meme-sad-gif-11746329

I just want to play daemons in 40K with out buying 12 books and still being the worst army

[edgy cipher]

Read the edit

[compact umbra]

OH

I HAVE HOPE

[twilit cliff]

ok why dont you come here to punch me in the gut and ruin my day even more

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-22220181

[edgy cipher]

Because I'd never abuse you physically mate, that could lead me to jail

[twilit cliff]

so when he says kasrkin kill team and then codex

does that mean no further range refresh as of yet

just hte kasrkin and the book?

keeping in mind that "leak" showed backpack guard and world eaters though

[edgy cipher]

It does seem weird since the range refresh is pretty much confirmed, as is creed

[edgy cipher]

They also appeared alongside Creed 's Daughter too

[twilit cliff]

i was thinking creed might come with the kill team, but maybe that's stupid

there's also the sentinel

[twilit cliff]

and yeah that's true

i dont know what to expect, but i don't think we're going to see any different regs until further notice

[edgy cipher]

Yeah ...

[twilit cliff]

still, pretty strange how that old leak was correct on most accounts iirc

[untold stirrup]

Ursula should have been Creed's wife

Our very own 40k Boudica

[crisp forge]

Too bad

shes Agatha Trunchbull instead

https://tenor.com/view/matilda-miss-trunchbull-gif-10989707

LETS GOOOO

[untold stirrup]

I just mean in concept

[crisp forge]

I know im joking

[urban harbor]

LMAO

[edgy cipher]

💀

[crisp forge]

THATS BUTAL

[median pumice]

Please feel free to use it in good health

[crisp forge]

Will do 🙏

[junior blaze]

not warhammer but damn i kinda want this

[quaint star]

Painted my first model!!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/822541131068866641/995507389497352252/IMG_1622.jpg?width=781&height=676

[compact umbra]

Oh shit nice!!!

[quaint star]

Thank you!

[sage matrix]

Great job and welcome to the hobby!!!! @quaint star

[feral ingot]

lines up with Space Marine 2 release

[cloud pivot]

warp talon champion

could have been better, i really rushed it to finish it in 1 day

[feral ingot]

It does look swanky AND rushed that's for sure

But nothing a little brush can't fix, or just make it more scratched to give off his years of crusading

[twilit cliff]

nice, looks really grimdark

[plush swift]

I know w40k is following the rule of cool
But in some moments I like to imagine the poor sod in the setting who actually had to design armor with all these spikes and added bits
"Alright how big can I make those wings before they become too heavy and become a burden"

[cloud pivot]

good call

thanks for the idea

[gentle phoenix]

Basically saltzpyre lol https://youtu.be/Rnss-YWxFqk

[bold copper]

kroot kill team confirmed

[crisp forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995679056689365042/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995679314009927791/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995679552955224084/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995679914625871932/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995682666630352956/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995686214285934602/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995684281441599518/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995688643417096222/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995688018792951848/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/995687869568004136/unknown.png

[hushed tangle]

There goes my wallet

[white stag]

That goliath bike screams "orkify me" louder than most of the newer ork releases

[edgy cipher]

Ah finally, new amazons for the Bloodball fans

Also, yet again, KT gets baller stuff

[crisp forge]

also Goliath get a Brute Chopper from halo

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/QbYlVmHszyKv4VI2c6SDgGEI07dTriODc8VqD-QHTkY/http/images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36300000/Halo-image-halo-36304463-900-626.png?width=710&height=494

[brisk vapor]

Navy and Kroot in the same box is pretty poggers

this is exactly what I hoped from the new kill team, more minor faction/race/whatever representation that probably don't have such a major presence in the mainline tabletop games

[compact umbra]

Gentlemen, I am now an imperial simp.

I love these fuckinh breathers so fucking much

It’s like industrial high quality military style

And the kroots

Are fucking kroots

Aka SS tier

[green cave]

Yeah, those helmets are really great

[crisp forge]

Its from old jes goodwin concept stuff

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/UcgNoWJsBRVMPs9sY637FSW9g78-lFNE0IelGaibcA0/https/i.pinimg.com/736x/97/b6/db/97b6db6e0f81368f736a62889f987e38--croquis-navy.jpg?width=710&height=567

[compact umbra]

ITS AMAIZNGggG

[green cave]

With the difference that those old ones are awful, the new design is gooood

[twilit cliff]

Def getting the Kroot/navy box

[compact umbra]

Unless it’s only like the 7 models but 99% chance it won’t just be them

Damn I love kroots

[twilit cliff]

and here I was complaining that the only non gang regular humie stuff we'd see was the cadians

[plush swift]

that dude on the right:
"so how do you reload, or even pump your shotgun?"
"I don't."

[twilit cliff]

his secret is that the shotgun is actually just attached to the shield

[green cave]

For pumping it is not that hard, seems that the shield has something that keep it in place, so they have just to push or pull with one hand

Reloading is gonna be a pain though

[brisk vapor]

oils my beloved

[cloud pivot]

damn man

what do you use?

[twilit cliff]

oh sick

is that banner from somewhere else?

[plush swift]

I think it's just some agrax

[brisk vapor]

this one was burnt umber

[brisk vapor]

part of the kit, MKIII Tac Marines

[plush swift]

it's great for skeletons
just slap the base colors
put on an Agrax coat and bam, they're tabletop ready and they don't look that bad

[brisk vapor]

Mid painting

let it dry and return with white spirits and clean the parts you want highlighted

[edgy cipher]

I forgot how magical oils are

[twilit cliff]

damn, can you tell me what colours you used before the wash?

i kinda like the bright colors also

I tried something similar when i first started and it turned out waaay too dark

[brisk vapor]

Black base coat, black mixed with Sons of Horus Green as the darker tone, pure Sons of Horus Green as mid tone and Sons of Horus Green mixed with Vallejo Green Sky as the highlight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FXebYWB6T0

it's pretty much this but slightly brighter to compensate for the oils

[twilit cliff]

literally one of my favourite colors

that 80's german cop car green

[brisk vapor]

yeah it's beautiful

[hoary ermine]

So that new kroot mini..

[twilit cliff]

which one?

[quaint halo]

So many Inquisitorial Retinue conversion ideas

[cloud pivot]

dog

top left and right could be remade into chaos cultists

[twilit cliff]

i was thinking earlier how top left would look with a shotgun somehow

[gentle phoenix]

top left dude looks really cool to me

basically has an oversized fire axe lol

[brisk vapor]

top right is my jam

bomb crossbow

hell yeah

[hard sand]

those shotguns look sick

[brisk vapor]

I like the idea that bracing the shotgun to the shield allows the user to rack the gun with the shield whilst keeping hold of it with the other hand

you'd think using an automatic shotgun in such a situation would be more sensible but why get caught up on semantics

[sage matrix]

Ready for some death company

[brisk vapor]

ready to kill horus

nice work

[sage matrix]

Thank ya

[pastel grotto]

4, perhaps 5 tyranids.

[feral summit]

anyone know what will happen to primer if I spray in high heats

[left ingot]

I think shes close to done now

[quaint halo]

Ah fresh meat

[fair pulsar]

Friend gave me a tech marine that was missing his dendrites. Decided he’d look good with a new chaos paint job.
Iron within, Iron without

[quaint halo]

Ah fresh meat

[latent bluff]

Should be okay, just shake well and spray thin coats - if dry heat, good as gold, if super humid, eeeeeeh, do the same but watch for shitty texture and drying time may take forever, recommend doing it in a garage with door cracked for airflow

And maybe use a low power fan to dry faster if you have zero time to spare

I used some Bunnings stuff while it was raining, while undercover, and it was mostly okay - bit overdone and gnarly on one pauldron but not utter dogshite, took forever to dry though

I actually recommend the citadel primers over bodgy Bunnings stuff though, goes on way nicer

[wise agate]

What glue do y’all use to attach the mini to the base?

[median pumice]

For temporary attachment I use super glue. Just a little.

For something more permanent, I use Tamiya Super thin. It melts the plastic a little to let you have a stronger hold

[urban harbor]

ok hold up. the ork players use to just be able to stack as many models as they could on top of their battle wagons?

[dire idol]

Apparently that was Ork transport rules with additional rules for if some fell off while you were moving it.

[white stag]

That's some really old rules, but it used to be a thing.

That's like vehicle profile template old rules though.

[pseudo kindle]

(hey Verbandsson, long time no see ;))

I think it was the case in 2nd or 3rd edition (and maybe later but I stopped at those editions iirc), where you could put as many minis as you could physically, but if one of them fell down, it was considered as having indeed fallen down from the vehicle and took damage.

[white stag]

Yes, any model that fell off took an automatic strength 10 hit, I forget what the AP value on it was but it was a near guaranteed wound and with instant death rules back then chance for survival was basically non existent. There was always that chance of rolling a 1 on that wound roll though and the dude coming off unscathed and just being some random boy or whatever off on a unit of his own now trying to catch back up

[brisk vapor]

First full squad of Sons of Horus Legionaries finished

[pseudo kindle]

They're beautiful.

[brisk vapor]

Cheers!

[edgy cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601926113958166538/996055193999380580/IMG_3626.jpg

Worst codex getting an update soon

Chaos boys feasting

[crisp forge]

damn, sisters getting slapped on that cover

[placid kernel]

@compact umbra

[compact umbra]

AAAA

AAAA

AAAAA

AAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[compact umbra]

YESYESYESYESYESY

[compact umbra]

I am going to hang this in my room

ARMY OF RENOWN ANNOUNCED

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ACTUAL CRUSADE RULESSSSSS

I usually don’t buy limited edition codex

But fuck yeah I’m gonna buy this one

[cloud pivot]

based maggie

chaos ftw

[compact umbra]

CHAOS FOR THE WINNN

[cloud pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821104948027588618.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[tulip cairn]

Who’s got the old tabletop leak screenshot talking about everything being released I need an update on those check marks

[tulip cairn]

[crisp forge]

[junior blaze]

[elfin yew]

The 2nd to last guard stuff also confirmed

[junior blaze]

where new guardsmen tank

[crisp forge]

Soon

as Dab said, the Dorn Tank was in the angron leak

[elfin yew]

Everything but the tank, and its ass end showed up in a pic

Yeah

[crisp forge]

Yeee

i didnt cross the cultists yet

since I THINK they are in the leak

[tulip cairn]

Mutants are a thing

[crisp forge]

like way at the back

[tulip cairn]

They get lead by the human possessed

[junior blaze]

is this a new leak or the one that was with creeds daughter and stuff

[elfin yew]

This leak is from last year

[junior blaze]

no i mean the picture you were talking about

[elfin yew]

Different one had the tank in it

[junior blaze]

you still got it?

[crisp forge]

Uhh gotta scroll

let me see

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601926113958166538/994907773571698738/SPOILER_SPOILER_IMG_8203.jpg?width=440&height=602

because they posted Angron right after the same day

not sure if it was damage control or not

[elfin yew]

Thats it

Bottom right

[crisp forge]

Yup, the leaker also said its suppose to resemble the Churchill

so we'll see

[cloud pivot]

angron my beloved

i remember they showed me the leak at the mini store and the day after he came out

[crisp forge]

Yeah it got revealed fast

[junior blaze]

hopefully its better than the wot version of the churchhill

[supple heron]

Anything ever come of that HH leak like two years ago?

[brisk vapor]

which one?

[supple heron]

The one with the land raiders and the guys in Termie armor. Valrak said his leaker said it was legit.

[compact umbra]

Human mutants are checked too

[brisk vapor]

that sounds like the more recent relaunch box leaks

so yes I guess because the whole HH relaunch was the least well kept secret in GW history probably

[supple heron]

Ah, either way I can promise you the pic was about two years old at this point. Neat to hear that it turned out to be true.

[compact umbra]

I wonder what’s gonna come in the chaos Daemon new codex box

[brisk vapor]

like this one? from a year ago

released last month

[supple heron]

Yeah that one

[brisk vapor]

there were rumours and deductions from way before this, "code30" and so on

[compact umbra]

Think with the new codex any models being redone?

I know furies are being ditched

[urban harbor]

?

[edgy cipher]

Human Mutants too