i wish
#40k-minis-and-armies
green cave
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elfin yew
Honestly I think Guard actually isnt that bad rn but theyre being hard carried by Hammer
They actually might be better than some early 9e armies now LMAO
hasty sorrel
oh i know, ive played them
we just have very few viable options
and most are more expensive than the value you get out
elfin yew
Pretty much the crusher stampede problem where it carries the codex but cant rlly do much else
hasty sorrel
cause ive now played uh
elfin yew
When nids were still 8e
hasty sorrel
IG, GSC and admech
against eldar, orks, tau and SoB
oh and DG and necrons
and from playing IG, they are kinda fun but you have no options (except cadia who got a dedicated update to have more stratagems) and most of your units are worse point for point (excluding standard infantry, which i actually rate with the new flat 60 cost)
playing GSC and the achilles having more survivability and comparable dmg at half the cost
hasty sorrel
dude
ridge runners n jackals are so fun
all i used
the closest i get as guard is like
spending 1cp to take a specialist regiment
elfin yew
Oh yes
hasty sorrel
also armour of content means even with hammer of the emporer, good luck wounding anyone running marines
elfin yew
Do u play irl or tts
hasty sorrel
tts
hasty sorrel
but the lasgun isnt gonna wound most marines even on auto wounds
elfin yew
And yeah Armor of contempt is rlly annoying because it was meant to balanced against super lethal recent armies but fucks over everyone else
hasty sorrel
76 lasgun shots
on a half health conscript blob
15 auto wounded on the bloodletters
elfin yew
Played into that as GSC and just ended up melting them with handflamer trucks
hasty sorrel
but again, gotta run cadians for that to work out
elfin yew
+sanctus oneshotting the commissars for Assassinate/morale fucking
elfin yew
I guess it makes sense for conscript blobs?
Since otherwise morale might actually matter
Ive been playing alot more AoS lately and god morale is so much better in it
Its actually important LMAO
hasty sorrel
considering you only lose extras on a 1, and the commissar only lets you reroll but you still lose the first model on a fail
elfin yew
If the blob drops below half you lose them on 2s
hasty sorrel
gotta lose 15 boys for that
elfin yew
Which is p likely
elfin yew
Forgot u could merge
hasty sorrel
the dream: 240 shot conscript barrage
elfin yew
I should run spooky drooky into it some time
Its a big meme that does nothing against most armies
-2(or 3) on attirtion checks if it goes well
hasty sorrel
ye guard are weak to morale stuff
or well
they are weak to everything
but morale is intended
elfin yew
Yee problem is morsle suggs so
Even armies weak to it dont care much unless conscript blobd
Blobs
hasty sorrel
yup
and even then, if you are cadians and spend the cp
the conscripts have standard IG morale
elfin yew
In AoS, morale is just one roll
1d6+killed models
Every point over bravery is a lost model
Wayyy more meaningful
Ive won games by scaring off rat ogres
hasty sorrel
if they brought that in i'd probably actually use commissars again
as it is atm they are just nice bait for assassins
elfin yew
Yep LMAO
Its also better in AoS because ignoring morale is alot more rare/or has to be a command point used(which are less plentiful)
Meanwhile like
Every army in 40k has some kind of ignore morale modifiers
Lmao or marines who just do it innately
kind lava
Lmao or marines who just do it innately
Dont the necrons have like leadership 10 across the board
urban harbor
how do you make an undead robot rout?
urban harbor
but they dont die so why run away lol
brisk vapor
The Warriors aren't really sentient per se
urban harbor
tbch it sounds like a game mechanic for balancing and nothing else
elfin yew
Dont the necrons have like leadership 10 across the board
Yeah Big Ld but if you kill over 4 can still be effected
kind lava
Hm ok
edgy cipher
although that may be me fighting DG and TS who have 2+ saves
Wdym I was with you
kind lava
Yeah Big Ld but if you kill over 4 can still be effected
Also why are you a Jeanstealer
Why do you value denim so much
hasty sorrel
but they dont die so why run away lol
because their reconstruction protocols aren't perfect
you lose a little bit of yourself each time, both in body and soul
urban harbor
oh lol
autumn parrot
So, question for everyone. If someone were to come up with a new tabletop model game, any genre, how would you guys feel if the "models" involved were more of a toy, with the game baked in on the side? As in figures could be individually posed, vehicles could be opened up to seat them, et cetera.
Some models would probably be sold pre-painted, but others could be blank and easy to disassemble for painting?
proud gorge
I mean I'd happily accept a fuckin lego tabletop
bold copper
dusk hill
Smolsurge
untold pier
Lmao yea thats a great model
royal compass
I never thought I'd ever say that of a 40k mini, but... that gun looks way too big
compact umbra
Hey who was that guy who basically only made red corsairs? They are probably getting their own like sub faction rules in the new chaos codex
crisp forge
Hey who was that guy who basically only made red corsairs? They are probably get...
Huron Blackheart?
compact umbra
I mean in thsi server
I wanna tell him the good news about the red corsiars
Fuck I canāt remember his username
crisp forge
@lapis tundra This person?
twilit cliff
lol
lapis tundra
Woah hello yes
bold copper
i'm hoping that chaos marine codex cover art that was leaked was real. it looks so good
crisp forge
which one was that
bold copper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N7fUUkyZCM&t=44s it was in this video. potato cam as well so that's what makes me think it was faked
crisp forge
Yep that looks like a codex cover
also that axe guy was in uh
warcom news page awhile back
looks like hes the centerstage person for the artwork
and looks like its Lewis Jones
that guy loves spikes
bold copper
i'm hoping csm get a lot of love with their new book, but please god do not let them be broken. i want to be welcome at the game tables
junior blaze
who would guys say is the most op so far?
bold copper
for sure
brisk vapor
but thankfully it was a quick fix
crisp forge
bold copper
tyranid zoanthrope spam looks like it might become a huge problem now though
crisp forge
also
brisk vapor
How's that? I've not studied the new Nid codex that well yet
bold copper
also unpopular opinion but i do like that squats look like a bit more generic sci-fi. it's somewhat refreshing compared to everything else in 40k
crisp forge
cries in Van Saar
bold copper
@brisk vapor i believe it has to do with how they stack pluses to cast with smite
i haven't looked too closely
brisk vapor
so you can get hella lot of smites off in a single turn?
elfin yew
BigBrain nids with Maleceptors+zoans drop a absolute gigajillion smites which do d3+3 per zoan
bold copper
there we go
elfin yew
per unit of zoans*
violet hatch
as a wise man once said, it just works
bold copper
as a wise man once said "GW doesn't playtest their rules"
violet hatch
bold copper
or more likely they do, and they don't care
elfin yew
Maleceptors also do like a d3 of mortal wounds in a aura when they cast
elfin yew
50 per model so a unit of 3 is 150
brisk vapor
okay it's semi cheap
elfin yew
It's them + the Neurothrope lets them heal when they deal a mw
elfin yew
It's
ALOT of dmg output
because they can also cast another spell after, which could be psychic scream
It's also not all of your army
d3+3 MWs per unit of 3 zoans + a maleceptor who can also smite+do d3 mw in a aura
Any amount of MWs is alot because very little can actually ignore MW, it's just 'true damage'
brisk vapor
isn't there a rule that makes smites harder to do if you repeat it in a single phase
elfin yew
Yeee
bold copper
game balance is so fucked this edition
brisk vapor
well I dunno, I think the balance has been pretty good for most of the edition
elfin yew
Yeah 9e rlly isn't bad, it's just usually when some codices come out they have like one bork aspect before they get nerfed in a week
brisk vapor
there has been a couple outliers
bold copper
i'm more so jaded because i deal with a lot of the borked combos first-hand
brisk vapor
yeah mostly issues with rule synergies overlooked by the playtesters
which get fixed quite quickly after the codex drops
bold copper
i also might not have as much an issue with the books themselves, and more that once next edition drops sometime next year most likely all the books with be obsolete again. editions should last more than 3 years for this style of game
elfin yew
Ur book will only be obsolete when the next version of your book comes out
Not when the edition drops
bold copper
you get my point
spring arch
It feels like planned obsolescence, tbh
bold copper
it is planned obsolescence
elfin yew
It's hard to argue for a actively-changing game
It'd be like saying dlc you bought for a game that gets nerfed is obsolete
spring arch
It's why I got out of the table top years ago. Only... Now Kill Team is looking like a lot of fun
spring arch
It'd be like saying dlc you bought for a game that gets nerfed is obsolete
Eh. Kill Team got a reboot in 2021, right? And already it seems like a lot of what's printed in the Compendium is outdated
elfin yew
Nah most of the compendium armies are still played
The only one I can think of that isnt is Harlequins which got voidweaver troupe in a white dwarf
spring arch
Yeah, but there's a bunch of addendums to the Compendium, right?
elfin yew
I think admech got a white dwarf one too, but the old one is still legal
bold copper
thousand sons as well
bold copper
and genestealer cults as well
elfin yew
Yee
But the old GSC is still playable
not obsolete
It's just they ALSO got a white dwarf team
spring arch
Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping to start my Adeptus Custodes team soon, but I'm holding out till next week at least to see if they release an updated Compendium
elfin yew
They won't, you'll have to look at the faqs
brisk vapor
The compendium was there just to bring all of the rest of the factions "up to speed" with the new edition. The main deal is with the named squads for each factions which are more in tuned with the new playsystem
elfin yew
I doubt the compendium is ever getting touched since it's just a "you can play your old kill teams!" book until the rest get actual named teams
Outside of rules faqs
And yeah, as Jerko said
The main thing to know for Custodes is they are now APL 3 instead of 4 +I believe one of their tactics got changed
bold copper
all marine squads aside from tacticals got a model boost as well going up from 5 in a unit to 6
elfin yew
Yeah you can find all that stuff in the faqs
spring arch
Hmm, all Marines? That means a friend and I can no longer go halfsies on a cheap 10 Marine box and both get a second team for 20ish bucks
Ah well, I was going 2 Custodes + 5 Sisters anyway
spring arch
And the new Orks are a lot 'better' than the Compendium ones, right?
elfin yew
Yeah that's p much the tradition
The new,s pecial teams tend to be better than compendium ones
except troupe/void dancer-troupe and custodes esp on release
Custodes were like just broken as fuck
not sure if they still are
spring arch
Yeah, I almost decided against Custodes because I read they were so broken, but it seems like they're fairly middle of the pack now
elfin yew
Maybe better isn't always true in terms of the special teams but the special boxed teams are definitely always more interesting
In terms of rules and such
bold copper
the chaos marine team in particular is super cool
i split the nachmund box simply for that team
spring arch
Eh, if I buy a box of Custodes and a box of Sisters I can run either full Custodes or 2 Custodes + 5 Sisters. That'll be enough to shake it up every now and then
brisk vapor
Yeah I might even pick up the new CSM KT box once it's sold separately
the upgrade kit is GOOD
wanna paint them all as separate legions though
spring arch
Just gotta find some cool 3D printed parts to modify the base models a bit. Friend has a great resin printer and I get to make use of it
Anyway, since you guys seem to play KT, thoughts on the starter set?
spring arch
Friend of mine is probably buying that one, and I'll be picking up the Compendium, so that way we'll have access to pretty much all the base rules, right?
bold copper
yes. i believe the starter set will have the basic rules for teams included.
hoary ermine
bold copper
if you can somehow find the octarius box set still, i recommend going for that over the starter set however
it has a bunch of terrain plus the full rules for the teams plus the core book and all the tools for the game
spring arch
I think we found that one for ā¬140 somewhere
bold copper
those big box sets are always a super good deal
spring arch
Wait.. there's a starter set with Space Wolves in it?
vale sleet
Living lightning!
bold copper
nice. going for a slaanesh marine look i presume?
dark cave
nice. going for a slaanesh marine look i presume?
Yea. weird we have very little in the way of official models that fit their modern discription
karmic torrent
bold copper
So we know that squats and chaos marines will be 40k day next week. so aside from slaves to darkness, what do you think will be on AoS day?
crisp forge
Its kinda hard to tell since all the leaks so far have been new chaos warriors havent they?
bold copper
This is more speculation than anything
So go crazy with theories
I personally think we see new skaven stuff since they are overdue for an update
junior blaze
i just wanna see that new ig stuff
trim hemlock
So we know that squats and chaos marines will be 40k day next week. so aside fro...
I think there was some Sylvaneth Symbols on some of the banners in the teaser image
elfin yew
Yeee
The current asumption is Sylvaneth vs Skaven
Because: Sylvaneth banners in background
+Clan rats/plague rats getting reboxed got leaked
Slaves to Darkness aren't until winter so
opal egret
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780958108309520385/969726622406180934/2...
Look, man.
The Crab is sullied by the inclusion of any weapon that uses ammo.
fickle owl
Friend has been working on a dnd campaign and I am really tempted to bring back my Alcoholic Half Elf Alchemist for it.
fickle owl
If I wasn't brewing my own booze I was making flash bangs, molotovs, super glue, and rapidly expanding foam wall potions.
for god sakes I won the god of wines bag of holding from a bar fight in our last campaign
tiny thistle
And thatās why I make sure my character is far away from the possible blast radius.
One wrong hit thenā¦ BOOM.
fickle owl
I will never forget when my party used up my entire stash of flashbangs to take out a camp of slavers... just flashbangs thrown everywhere
I think the dm made everyone roll at disadvantage for the rest of the encounter to say we were all nearly permanently blinded due to that
tiny thistle
Lol
I just realized I havenāt play DND in years. I wonder if I still have my old character tucked away in some box.
fickle owl
pretty much... things did also get pretty funky when someone in our party decided to go full jihadi and kamikaze with a bunch of explosives on them against a boss. actually that was a lie, they were more accurately THROWN into the boss with a bunch of explosives strapped to them.
urban harbor
https://tenor.com/view/transformers-hound-i-dont-have-enough-ammo-for-that-thing...
ok wtf is that cuz it looks awesome
tiny thistle
A get getting flashed?
fickle owl
Michael bay transformers movie
tiny thistle
Lol
urban harbor
Michael bay transformers movie
oh i dont remember that seen
fickle owl
fortunately neither do I, but I do remember the visual style of those movies unfortunately
tiny thistle
pretty much... things did also get pretty funky when someone in our party decide...
Ok someone strapped explosives on them. Then his buddy threw him at the boss?
fickle owl
yup
tiny thistle
Sounds like DND in a nutshell.
fickle owl
full on ooga dooga style
fickle owl
picked up the annoying wizard/ rouge style player and yeeted him at the boss.
urban harbor
typical barbarian gameplay
tiny thistle
picked up the annoying wizard/ rouge style player and yeeted him at the boss.
The only thing they are good at besides being a meat shield
fickle owl
we had a period of time we were larping as ambush predators because we had some special gas mask made so we could see in thick fog, and I used that to make smoke screen cannisters to toss everywhere
fickle owl
This scene happened a lot with the barbarian just appearing behind bandits
was funny as shit
the way that campaign ended for my character was something, retired with my (totally not Irish or Scottish in terms of temper) elven apprentice to become the master of the merchant guild and to start my own distillery.
tiny thistle
If I remember correctly I ended the story of one of my characters in a blaze of glory.
Hmmā¦ I could resurrect that old man and make him a death knight or something.
fickle owl
the campaign was absolutely a meth fueled dream
tiny thistle
I could make a story of how he returned from the grave because of a Necromancers or something.
fickle owl
because my character somehow came into the possession of an army of sentient self replicating Nutcracker soldiers, a goblin butler named Bizwix, a genie, and a crystal sword that grew in power the more I insulted my enemies.
fickle owl
you ever seen Samurai Jack?
tiny thistle
I am now hearing a drunken elf screaming every insult they know.
fickle owl
just Imagine the Scots man from that
and you get a good Idea of what was involved
next character I made was a bit more... boring? Again another half-elf, but this one wanted to track down the lich that "killed" the party in the first main encounter and make a xylophone out of it's ribcage
and that character ended up the king of the nearly decimated elven kingdom after most of the royal family was murdered and the princess betrayed her family and people, my pc was the only member of the royal court to survive and had dedicated his life to restoring the kingdom and waging a 3 way war against the demons and celestials.
I will share this fun little story from that campaign, my pc was a gravity controlling mage and he inadvertently crushed a party member with a giant man eating squirrel and this caused them to slowly transform into a were squirrel.
tiny thistle
Man I have completely forgotten how much in-depth lore you can do in DND
fickle owl
I have a whole setting ready to go in the back of my mind if I ever get asked to try dming for my friends. although coming up with alternative story lines to generally follow is a bitch
tiny thistle
I may just use the character Ive been creating for my book I have been writing.
fickle owl
Pantheon? check. BBEG? Check. Lore? check. A plotline? kinda.
the campaign I had in mind would have the party start off doing average jobs and ease them into the setting until one job was a bit different from the normal ones.
they'd catch the back end of something going on, and would be asked to alert the guild what they saw. this would lead into a series of events that would see the party go from the C team to maybe the B team or the A team. make them really earn that protagonist role.
tiny thistle
So they are in the wrong place at the wrong time then?
fickle owl
they would be asked to explore some ruins and just before they get into the final chamber they would see something magic related going on. to sum it up, a servant of a primordial dark god will have his servant possess the corpse of an ancient hero king to serve as the vessel of his will until near the end of the campaign he will devour the servants soul and become reborn in the possessed body and reshape it to resemble his original form.
the servant after possessing the body would teleport out of the chamber and that is what the party will see.
tiny thistle
The entity laughs. āWe knew eachother all those years ago but I donāt think youāll remember my name however, you may call meā¦ Omicron. That is all.ā The thiefās body begins to cough up blood as what ever was controlling him kills him.
ā¦
This is a sample of what Iāve been working on.
fickle owl
nice
The Pantheon of my setting had a theme of "balance" in a sense, each god had an opposite that balanced them out nearly perfectly.
one of my favorite examples of this is "Ashra: the twin lover gods of war and peace". The thing about Ashra is that there is two gods named Ashra, Lord Ashra the god of war and conquest, and Lady Ashra the goddess of peace and prosperity. they symbolized the "dance" of periods of conflict and peace that covered the lands.
tiny thistle
I hate twin characters because they can be so confusing.
I cannot figure out whoās who at all.
fickle owl
in their case it is the concept they represent that is important, which is the cycle of war and peace.
tiny thistle
That is always important. The balance of war and peace is always the key of any story.
fickle owl
yeah, and Ashra was just a "minor" god in my pantheon
in their case at least, minor meant they were relatively young for god standards, seeing as they were born After the great war against the primordials
tiny thistle
Can we change the subject my brain is starting to shut down because of all this lore talk.
fickle owl
yeah... I kinda start spouting off stuff that I work on as a hobby without really thinking and it just comes out like a mad mans ramblings.
tiny thistle
Same Iām barely holding back the storm that is my book Iām writing. I usually vent all the things I have done so far to my buddy who is doing the artwork.
But sadly he is on vacation.
fickle owl
hope that goes well when he gets back.
tiny thistle
He said he had a rough sketch of the main character. Whom Iāve named after my discord username.
fickle owl
and if I can get a chance to try dming after our next campaign, I will more then likely have a cliff note version of setting info they will need to remember, and anything else can be some deep lore they can read at their leisure if they want to get invested in the rping aspect.
tiny thistle
Or was it a city? I donāt remember.
fickle owl
because I know my friends have the attention span of a goldfish and remembering more then 2-4 names is a challenge for them.
tiny thistle
Lol
feral ingot
you had me at beakie and then I clicked
crisp forge
dusk hill
Ooh
hasty sorrel
definetly more consistent on detail than other recent arts
like, i can actually see faces and details of things that arent centre focus
bold copper
For the most part all of the codex cover art has been amazing
brisk vapor
yes, improvement
He also made this one
which is pretty much my all time favourite DG interpretation
hoary ermine
i think he likes spikes
hoary ermine
Tho!~
crisp forge
a lil ounce if ye will
brisk vapor
just a prick
hoary ermine
to note
brisk vapor
hoary ermine
chaos marines want to stab things onto their armor constantly
so i dont hate it at all
its what i assume a slaaneshi marine would use to hang several humans from
hasty sorrel
i don't mind it honestly other than like
when they start looking like a porcupine
also i'd say it depends, i can see some slaanesh CSM keeping immaculate, smooth armour
compact umbra
I love the idea of a spiky chaos marine just slamming into some guards men and getting some corpse shields
brisk vapor
the future will sting ya
compact umbra
To be fair it looks metal as fuck
brisk vapor
Another really great modern Warhammer artist is Phil Moss, a bit similar in style but a bit 'cleaner'
brisk vapor
tiny thistle
This is what 40k artwork must be.
hasty sorrel
i actually don't like this art piece or the others in its style
they lose too much of the detail for things not in focus
brisk vapor
š
brisk vapor
here's another by him
https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/034/421/572/large/phil-moss-screenshot-2021-02-02-at-10-08-21.jpg?1612260659
hasty sorrel
no, but that doesn't mean you should give up drawing the rest half way through
brisk vapor
often these artworks get cropped for the final release as well
this Necron codex art for example
hasty sorrel
except these don't, cause i remember that admech one
brisk vapor
hasty sorrel
im not surprised they crop it
he doesn't finish his art
I wouldn't want that on my book either
brisk vapor
He doesn't finish areas that he knows will be cropped
brisk vapor
that's perfectly fine though
crisp forge
but holy shit
it gets so bad
i miss old detailed 40k artwork
probably one of the worst offenders
these people are centerfront
brisk vapor
I think the flame is alright but the face is oddly blurred
placid kernel
dusk hill
it has AI generated vibes
placid kernel
wtf is the quality control of this video
is it missing an entire third for anyone else?
brisk vapor
Well it's not missing, there's just extra 5 minutes of nothing
placid kernel
yeah that
placid kernel
trying out a new scheme for my bonereapers
brisk vapor
Tasty
placid kernel
not sure I like the dark blue armour, anyone think white or grey armour would look better?
brisk vapor
grey could be neat too
hoary ermine
not sure I like the dark blue armour, anyone think white or grey armour would lo...
white isa hrd
but you can do it off-white?
placid kernel
yeah sorry that is what I meant, more of a very light grey
but do you reckon it would look good?
violet hatch
I think the flame is alright but the face is oddly blurred
Something something radiant heat affecting the air something
brisk vapor
probably š
brisk vapor
Slow progress
tiny thistle
They are evolving
thick coyote
Vallejo basing paints are way tastier than gw ones
I can tell from personal experience
finite axle
Iām painting word bearers Knowing thereās unfinished parts i will go back and fix them but how does it look so far
bold copper
it looks good
if you want a tip for how i paint my chaos marines. i start with a krylon red oxide primer and then all i need is 1 coat of red to complete that part of the basecoat
charred ginkgo
i miss old detailed 40k artwork
the original chaos spawn art from way back
serious nightmare fuel. i'd love to see someone make a 3d printable version inspired by that
finite axle
the original chaos spawn art from way back
charred ginkgo
old black and white 40k art had some serious spooky vibes
dusk hill
sup it's biden
bold copper
every so often i look at this art and think "maybe i should start a white scars force"
edgy jackal
Just remember to use a very bright grey/ivory for the plates, and only use titanium white for highlights.
fickle owl
I hope you are including plenty of bikes and other such vehicles to go full speed
bold copper
i'm not actually making a white scars force. it's just a thought i have now and again
brisk vapor
Some quick metallics
junior blaze
i want this
brisk vapor
for 120ā¬ one can be yours
quaint star
well, you'd also need like $80 or equivalent for creed and the infantry squad
brisk vapor
oh I just automatically ignored the guard infantry
quaint star
Good. It lets them live longer
compact umbra
hey so, chaos emperors children, im planning to have my CL in terminator armor as a main damage dealer, ive got the artifacts and stuff i want on him but idk what models i should have body guard him.
besides more terminators
bold copper
Termies are about the only thing I could recommend other than maybe possessed.
compact umbra
mmm yewha
why the fuck are chaos bikers sold out online?
hoary ermine
reboxing
compact umbra
ohhHh okay i was really concerned people were gonna run chaos bikers
bold copper
Potentially a new model sculpt
hoary ermine
Potentially a new model sculpt
unless its been shown it doesnt get pulled from the website beforehand
so no
final yarrow
some iron hand bois
marble sorrel
These are my guardsmen so far. I messed up on the commander but I just made him look like he got burnt instead with some dabbling on his face so it looks like scaring. (I used the wrong skin shade)
brisk vapor
looking good
marble sorrel
looking good
thnx
based them off the 92nd firebrands infantry regiment
ny goal is to have a full regiment
which according to the codex
which is 270 rifleman, 50 command troops, 20 commisars and 9 orgryn plus a primaris syker
edgy cipher
Nice minis, also I see you adding pockets on the plasma user's pants
edgy cipher
Guess I mistook it for something else
marble sorrel
lol its ok
im kitbashing with his head
each company will have a sgtmaj so hes going to be one of the unique ones
i still have a long way to go with them i only have two rifle squad and a command squad so far
i need to get another squad so i have my first platoon
edgy cipher
Gl with your regiment ! Got any vehicles you wanna paint in mind ?
Or going full infantry ?
marble sorrel
im doing a infantry regiment first then start with a armored regiment
both me and my bf have a plan were doing with a few irl friends having a complete war game
its where we have our seperate groups so i have 2 full guards regiments while maybe my bf would have the same or perhaps have space marines in support of my guard and then go up against the other two friends massive ork or tyranid horde
the goal is to have this huge battle
something that feels more like a real warhammer 40k battle than just a small engagement
brisk vapor
tiny thistle
Hmmā¦.
kind lava
https://twitter.com/The_Doomed_One/status/1521591598831788034?s=20&t=ROuBQkNkfcZ...
the moustache is the finishing touch on this
without it, it'd still be good, but it wouldnt be the same
crisp forge
Nah thats true, its a proper leak
he has the sideway spines with skulls at the end of them like the O.G model
bold copper
supposedly they might be splitting the 40k daemon prince and the AoS daemon prince into separate boxes. don't know if that's true but i think it would be a good choice
bold copper
i saw that
green cave
theres also actually a squat biker too
???
bold copper
fell victim to traditional GW painters over detailing of the face
green cave
Lel
And here i was hoping that GW wouldn't ruin the Votann... Aaaahhhh, what a fool idea it was
crisp forge
I mean
we all knew the bikes were gonna be there
its gonna sell like mad
it makes sense
green cave
Not for me
crisp forge
Then thats just 1 customer out of 100000
bold copper
i still think that the new squats actually look good
green cave
Then thats just 1 customer out of 100000
bold copper
it's super refreshing to see something outside normal 40k design, even if it leans on the somewhat generic
green cave
https://tenor.com/view/ouch-hurt-feelings-gif-14073109
Not really, but i wanted to make that joke
crisp forge
it's super refreshing to see something outside normal 40k design, even if it lea...
cries in Tau and Van Saar
bold copper
tau are cool, but they are established. and i don't really care about necromunda
hoary ermine
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910347522290098246/971385190670819428/unk...
votannian?
hoary ermine
was it leaked?
green cave
votannian?
The symbol in the front doesn't give much doubt imo
urban harbor
most likely a tri-bike
with a rear gunner cuz the is no such thing as to much dakka
quaint halo
Cultists look neat
hoary ermine
i l;ike the bike
hoary ermine
cato primarius
brisk vapor
World Eaters Codex confirmed
White Dwarf partial release first and full Codex later
hype
green cave
Cannot wait to see more veterans for IG
hoary ermine
holy shit god specific heads!!!
so... head
crisp forge
Okay stream done
placid kernel
worst part was that they assumed people tuned into a 40k stream were all space marine fans
junior blaze
chaos is strong i see
junior blaze
i do want that daemon prince
marble sorrel
All I really want is for the chaos guardsmen in black stone fortress to be there own thing
tight urchin
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/81qIsCsgRzQMIgZK....
Zamn
I'd fuck him
crisp forge
All I really want is for the chaos guardsmen in black stone fortress to be there...
Thats in the Prophecy
This leak from like 8 months ago has been entirely correct
Chaos guardsman was on the second page i think
Ah nvm Renegade Guard, the're on there
marble sorrel
Sir, madam or other.
Youāve made a shitty morning worth getting out of bed. Thank you š
marble sorrel
Iāve been wanting to do a chaos army for a fat min but I never did vibe with them being only space marines
brisk vapor
I might pick up the chaos knight set this weekend and start my trip to chaos there
World Eater getting their own codex does sound promising for me
placid kernel
I might pick up the chaos knight set this weekend and start my trip to chaos the...
thats been mighty tempting for me too but I mainly just like the wardogs
marble sorrel
We got veteran style Cadians but regiments and new kasrkin got me excited since there my main army
crisp forge
World Eater getting their own codex does sound promising for me
They only shared 1 tease of them which was what their axes will look like
tight urchin
"There's no mistaking this for a space marine bike"
Yeah I'd say that but there's marine grav tanks flying around now so idk about that whc
compact umbra
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/KXnigkXxkmsGL0Bn....
HOLY
SHIT
okay fellas
im scrapping my emperos children army
brisk vapor
yeah, they did say they will be getting a codex later, a smaller White Dwarf release first
tight urchin
They only shared 1 tease of them which was what their axes will look like
I imagine the big reveal will be at the end of warhammer fest
compact umbra
and making a word bearers daemon kin army
tight urchin
With angron
brisk vapor
don't think they'll show angron just yet
think the main release for them will be some time next year
tight urchin
mayhaps
compact umbra
I have been shown the light of absoluete metal ass mutants and possessed
brisk vapor
some might come out by christmas with a small White Dwarf force
crisp forge
Yeah Angron and Fulgrim are prob later down the line
its just Magnus and Morty atm with codexes and special minis
marble sorrel
some might come out by christmas with a small White Dwarf force
I imagine they will be out before the new year
tight urchin
Yeah Angron and Fulgrim are prob later down the line
Yeah they might end up being heresy adjacent releases since hh 2.0 is late heresy
brisk vapor
the most exciting fact about this is that this has to mean Emperors Children will get their love at SOME time in the far future
tight urchin
And in late heresy fulgrim and angron are already daemon princes
brisk vapor
could be, would be nice if they'd do it so that you could field him in HH as well
tight urchin
That will definitely be the case given the siege of terra angle they're going for with hh 2.0
brisk vapor
Morty should be fieldable in his daemon form as well then
tight urchin
And angron is a daemon prince during the siege of terra and really for like
The whole latter half of the horus heresy
tight urchin
Morty should be fieldable in his daemon form as well then
Correct
marble sorrel
I wish we got more terrain options for a urban setting
brisk vapor
the new terrain kit was pretty nice tbh
marble sorrel
I did like it
brisk vapor
not that urban though
marble sorrel
Itās very outpost like
brisk vapor
yeah
marble sorrel
Good for a trenchline
But not for a city
I mean things like stone building structures mixed with the technology metal
That or a church/cathedral would be really cool
brisk vapor
agreed
marble sorrel
I would also like more three story buildings. Ones that have stairs and arenāt complete rubble
brisk vapor
yeah, although those would be hard to utilize in-game
finite axle
these are disgusting and i love it
brisk vapor
the sculptors really went wild with those
marble sorrel
The sculptors donāt get me wrong there very detailed and cool
But I wish there was more modularity
Like the new ork boys compared to the old. The old had A lot more options than the new
So Iām deeply hoping we donāt go back in time to just different heads and color schemes
marble sorrel
I love how we all were active and then all stopped for a solid 30 min lmao
rough scarab
I get making squats more generic humany sci-fi looking from a lore point of view, but these models really don't seem that impressive so far
brisk vapor
I really like the vehicle at least, very pulpy
bold copper
The vehicle does look cool
I'm just happy world eaters are getting their own book finally
crisp forge
I get making squats more generic humany sci-fi looking from a lore point of view...
Its not really generic sci-fi
its atom/dieselpunk lol
everyone seems to love them so far from what im seeing
placid kernel
I dig the gun
edgy cipher
Ive seen the opposite with a lot of people complaining about the new squats having a more scifi look
brisk vapor
it happens a lot here as well
I'm having very much trouble deciding which legion I should go with for Horus Heresy
crisp forge
the one that has the most drip
brisk vapor
Night Lords have the most dripping flesh parts
rough scarab
Blood angels and world eaters drip a lot of blood
jovial siren
Damn, the new chaos minis all look really cool, especially that fused chaos spawn thing
rough scarab
Are Horus heresy leaks still amounting to just the box set and the plastic leviathan?
jovial siren
Not sure if I like the curves of dieselpunk and such tbh. But maybe I'm still too oversaturated from wolfenstein or I just expected something else or new
hoary ermine
i like it but its a cup for everyone
elfin yew
GW on their way to slap hover vehicles onto every faction
Allergic to wheels
LoV seeming uninspired as predicted
CSM very goodo tho
Tommorow is AoS day and its skaven/sylvaneth time
Votann warrior bravely riding in on their rotovac to clean the dust of the 41st millenium
bold copper
it looks almost 1950's aesthetic, which i like
elfin yew
I rlly dont know where u guys are getting dieselpunk from
Its way too clean
The only diesel thing abt this is the gas can
LMAO
bold copper
i think it looks good
untold pier
I'm having very much trouble deciding which legion I should go with for Horus He...
IW
But im biased
brisk vapor
I don't feel like painting armys worth of metallic paint
untold pier
Valid and fairš¤£
bold copper
I'm glad chaos gate daemonhunters seems to be doing well review wise. It really does seem like the people behind it really wanted to make it as good as it could possibly be.
urban harbor
its not out yet
urban harbor
around that afaik
bold copper
Video reviews are what I am talking about
urban harbor
k
im not gona watch them as i already own it š
even got the hero dude
Garran Crowe
tulip cairn
Cultist?
Finally!
I can finally do the cultist army Iāve dreamed of and send thousands to their deaths in the name of the dark gods
vale sleet
Im surprised it isnt 60
surreal iris
going to wait for it to go on sale. it'll probably have like a 10% sale during the Skulls event,
elfin current
Oh those guys are fuckin nic3
I actually have Possessed in the Start Collecting box I have yet to make lmao
crisp forge
my condolences
tulip cairn
Older possessed models are funky they like to fall
charred ginkgo
brisk vapor
like it
tight urchin
Marduk Sedeez nuts
crisp forge
This tbh
hoary ermine
plasmaballs
bold copper
Slightly annoyed that skaven are only getting 1 new model, but whatever
placid kernel
yeah same
hopefully the new tome makes it better at actually killing heroes
cool new sylvaneth though
elfin yew
Skaven just need their old crap updated
Sylvaneth actually needed new models to the roster
hoary ermine
skaven are bound for one of those massive range updates
bold copper
New vampire character
hoary ermine
hes a great fit for any generic fighter for dnd runs
bold copper
Very mid AoS reveals tbh
Hearing that cities of sigmar are getting an update is cool though
violet quiver
Mid or feed, my favorite line to hear
junior blaze
any mondo coolio releases shown off
elfin yew
Not for 40k
compact umbra
Hey whatās yāallās thoughts on Chaos lords in Terminator armor? I love their model but I almost never see anyone use them
Might be because of the points costs
elfin yew
AoS got a entire faction revamp announced + the summer battletomes and models
junior blaze
too spiky people dont like poking themselves
compact umbra
AoS got a entire faction revamp announced + the summer battletomes and models
Ooooo
Might be a good time for em to finally try AOS
bold copper
chaos space marines also got a bunch of cool new stuff + world eaters being confirmed for getting their own book in 40k
compact umbra
chaos space marines also got a bunch of cool new stuff + world eaters being conf...
Yeee I might get a worlds eaters army
I actually like their lore
And angron
green cave
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH KILLL BLOOOD and other raging...
compact umbra
And Khan the betray is an amazing character
junior blaze
i know this is a 40k place but i REALLY like this https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/05/revealed-new-sylvaneth-have-been-empowered-by-the-rite-of-life/
bold copper
I think 40k reveals were better than the AoS reveals this year tbh
green cave
Not really a 40K only place, feel free to drop all the hobbies bomb you want
green cave
WTH dwarfs get powerbackpacks there?
green cave
That doesn't look much kharadron though
junior blaze
green cave
Seems more a dispossesed dwrf
junior blaze
he is a merc according to this
green cave
Yeah, a kharadon merc...
placid kernel
But he is wielding a quad barreled aethorshot rifle and the arkonaut admirals axe
green cave
Welp, the lack of purple fooled me
placid kernel
Lil Chad
placid kernel
Welp, the lack of purple fooled me
Their different cities and guilds use different colours
As well as having wildly different beliefs
Some are more akin to old dwarves whilst some are pure turbo capitalists
crisp forge
WTH dwarfs get powerbackpacks there?
They basically wear exosuits
theres even art of it
placid kernel
Well sealed suits with metal armour on top
placid kernel
Lil chads
crisp forge
Gonna fire some harpoons in peoples faces
placid kernel
Or a straight up drill cannon
Then have their drill bit birds peck at the remains
All so their company owner can get just that bit richer
junior blaze
placid kernel
Whilst they all entirely deny the existence of magic...whilst everyone else uses it
junior blaze
cooooooooom
crisp forge
Harpoons, hooks, bullets, pickaxes
placid kernel
Especially by AoS standards
green cave
Whilst they all entirely deny the existence of magic...whilst everyone else uses...
Ok, now i'm getting interested
placid kernel
Cutlasses, drill birds, cog axes, picks, harpoons, pikes, spears, guns, heck my favourite one is the chemists literally sucking the air out of people's lungs
green cave
Can you feed me more info about their distaste for magic? Or point me toward some place where to find it
placid kernel
Their general attitude to magic is just that is a wind like any other, they don't really believe it to be usable for them
They have navigators that read it to help them move their huge ships
And they siphon it into steampunk esque engines or gunpowder to power everything
They basically believe "magic" is a bad term
And that everything can be explained with science and rational thinking
green cave
And that everything can be explained with science and rational thinking
Ma bois!!
placid kernel
That is the respectable part of them
I can copy paste an article about it if you want
The Kharadron largely scorn organised worship and, save for the more traditionalist sky-ports such as Barak-Thryng, have placed science above the worship of the Ancestor Gods. While the Kharadron acknowledge the presence of magic and deities, they believe everything can be explained with some rational, science-based formula.
Superstitions persist, however, and many legends tell of how the exertions Grungni experienced during his Grand Works were such that the metal-dust shed by his hammer mingled with his breath to form air-borne clouds of aether-gold. Others say that the creation of aether-gold was Grungniās folly and the reason he would ultimately leave the Pantheon of Order.
Essentially their method to fight chaos in terms of culture is to rationalise it as best as possible so that they might understand this, although this is pretty impossible. They are the most rapidly developing of anyone in the mortal realms thanks to their focus on the sciences and capitalism
When it comes to a fight they bring overwhelming firepower alongside the stoicism you'd expect of the dwarves. Throw in their creative weaponry and heavily drilled and well trained soldiers and you have the reason they've been so successful in the realms
Hope this gives you a small snippet into what is genuinely one of the coolest factions in AoS
green cave
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elfin yew
Hyped for their new book + character
Looks rlly cool
Gives me moby dick vibes for some reason
Also hyped for the Covens of Blood audiobook
Just got into DoK so
junior blaze
anyone got a rpimer lore video for aos?
placid kernel
Just got into DoK so
awww hell yeah
elfin yew
anyone got a rpimer lore video for aos?
2+ Tough on youtube has a bunch
Iirc this was made during the Soul Wars arc
So its missing the more recent stuff but its mostly up to date
He has other vids going over the new stuff
junior blaze
Thanks
finite axle
How does this look so far is it starting to look like a word bearer
compact umbra
DWARF PIRATESSS
compact umbra
hey why is so much AOS stuff in last chacne to buy
elfin yew
All the warcry stuff, I think the older teams may be getting phased out
Someone who plays Warcry wouls know more definitely tho
compact umbra
Lmao I was just thinking about āhey you know what AOS army is cool that I wanna get? Those tree ppl.ā
Then just saw the recap
Reveal
compact umbra
okay yea i love them
im probably gonna pcik up the uh, start collecting and tree kit when i go to my local game store
and uh not 3d print some hunters probs
junior blaze
if they have alreeady done the 40k day when are they supposed to show off new IG stuff or this supposed cato model?
bold copper
in another stream later in the next few months most likely
junior blaze
ah
elfin yew
Yeah guard is still
pretty far off tbh
Well, not TOO far off but
CSM, daemons, etc first most likely
Guard getting Hammer of the Emperor while good isn't too good of a sign for a soon codex
bold copper
tomorrow will be the skirmish game stream. i'm betting we see traitor guard from the prophecy in the new kill team box
edgy cipher
I like how the cultists are the BSF ones
hasty sorrel
werent the bsf ones a bit more spikey
edgy cipher
Those were the traitor guard
There was maybe only 2 or 3 spiked helmets for the cultists
jovial siren
lul, just found my old warhammer fantasy rulebook while doing some lifting in the cellar. 6th edition. I am old...š©
but cool artworks, and painting tipps I totally ignored. Good times
hasty sorrel
hasty sorrel
fair, i just couldn't not post it
jovial siren
totally understandable
bold copper
Apparently a bunch of horus heresy reveals meant for tomorrow got leaked.
tight urchin
Love the kratos
i also love ARMOR VALUES and OLD TOUGHNESS AND STRENGTH AND WS CHARTS
so i might get into hh 2.0
bold copper
Cool looking stuff
proper canopy
I just liked the do I get a Save Y/N instead of all the Ap going everywhere.
brisk vapor
The Kratos looks dope, will be getting one for sure
Can't wait for them to roll out the rest Sicarans in plastic
bold copper
If they show a traitor guard kill team then I will be happy
crisp forge
its on the Prophecy so probably
green cave
The one on the left have a nice helmet
They all look really good... And similar to the chaos ones in darktide
hasty sorrel
god i hate these marine models
crisp forge
hasty sorrel
hes adjusting one of his 7 scopes
so
everyone else gets exactly the same number of models as you need to play
except SM
who get enough parts to make 2 full squads
plush swift
rare solstice
good news for me, I can split this with a marine player
bold copper
controversial but i have never had a problem with phobos marines. but traitor guard look much better
edgy cipher
Phobos are very tacticool, not to everybodys taste
green cave
I wonder why they got that pattern of breastplate... I mean, they seems to use the "cadian" pattern, but the breastplate is different
green cave
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373256424068874260/972171965307695124/unk...
Meh, the more they reveal the less interested i am
crisp forge
hasty sorrel
these look less terrible
green cave
Oh, those are on necromunda?
hasty sorrel
actually like these over the actual official army 
green cave
They are bringing back the squat prospector???!!!
hasty sorrel
yup
green cave
So there is still hope for decent Votann... Well, excluding the hover bike
crisp forge
green cave
Wonder how they are gonna make the squat prospector fit in the lore
hasty sorrel
they are covering this now
green cave
Did they went deep in the underhive to not have been singhted for so long?
hasty sorrel
squats are a necromunda specific term for Kin, which is the new name for squats
they were there since the HH to help with the rebuild
crisp forge
hasty sorrel
so
hasty sorrel
"squats" still exist
but aren't the new faction at all
these are so much cooler than league imo
crisp forge
Leagues of Shittaan š
green cave
But the squats were said to be long gone from necromunda, and with only two remaining, and that they never talked about their similar
bold copper
i need to see the full squat range for 40k before i pass final judgement. but i do like the style of them so far
crisp forge
But the squats were said to be long gone from necromunda, and with only two rema...
Blank
Lore doesnt matter
ıts all in the whims of GW
hasty sorrel
i need to see the full squat range for 40k before i pass final judgement. but i ...
these arent the actual range, they are a seperate group that have nothing to do with the league
so the rest of the army wont look like the above at all
tight urchin
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373256424068874260/972172278274072576/u...
Those look more like the old squats than the first reveal
bold copper
i'm talking about the leagues of votaan
hasty sorrel
Those look more like the old squats than the first reveal
cause it has nothing to do with the league
tight urchin
Oh yeah
tight urchin
