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compact umbra
violet quiver
Based tyby
violet quiver
LOL
compact umbra
Tyberos is just as tall as a primarch I swear
urban harbor
yes
violet quiver
I mean he kinda is in that pic
compact umbra
He just appeared out of deep space out of no where
violet quiver
Is it canon that he’s double the size of a normal marine?
violet quiver
I gotta read the carcharadon books
compact umbra
his official mini is smaller than a primaris marine :(
urban harbor
ouch
compact umbra
Ikr
urban harbor
someone needs to make a meme of that
compact umbra
6’ vs 5’11”
urban harbor
as a 5 11 dude with a 6foot brother it do feel like that sometimes
compact umbra
Lmao
ruby jay
found the artist to bottom boy banshee
it's sparks220stars on deviantart if i'm correct, but their art is not exactly impressive
green cave
That art is fan art, not official, and while the red wake was said to be bigger than normal it was compared to firstborn marines, probably it is slightly taller than primaris now
IIRC the description of him stated that he was one head taller than his terminator guards, of course counting to his head, not the top part of the armour
And since terminator armour add to your height we could assume that he could be around primaris height in normal armour
hoary ermine
Like youre gonna be big
But you can still fit through imperial doors
Which disproves the theory of every primaris bonking their head on doors
Also i kinda wanna get a gif of my robit agressively cocking a shotgun, like bricky
compact umbra
Damn none of the Carcharodons books/short stories have audio books 😔
violet quiver
maybe one day they'll actually finish those..
it's been what, more than a month since they released an animation
lapis tundra
First one could be a terminator, second one seems like an aos chaos wizard
lapis tundra
a terminator and a chaos sorcerer
Beat me to it 😔
unborn night
Lol
violet quiver
wait what
how do u get those minis
if the first one u need to be subbed for a year?
are they really gonna try to drag this thing out for two years?
lapis tundra
Wait i thought its just a new one every year
hoary ermine
still waiting for my admech series
green cave
Same
edgy cipher
green cave
Who could have guessed
vivid rune
neat
Im really hoping the termie is the pattern that has those massive fucking pauldrons with the gun in the center
compact umbra
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/RbjogXoQbYZ2P2hv....
Good thing my local store sells WH+ Minis
No clue how or why, but Pog
compact umbra
It’s weird because it’s in like, the official boxes
hoary ermine
nah
cant be recasts then
high chances are that they got a bunch shipped faultily to them
my local GW had it
hoary ermine
it happens sometimes
an example is a store in spain that had 150 anniversary models shipped to his store, so he just put them on shelf
the terminator chaplain
green cave
Logistic being logistic
hoary ermine
its a shipping mistake that happens when the warehouses of GW get overloaded
green cave
At least that part in Only War was correct
hoary ermine
lmao
vivid rune
At least that part in Only War was correct
LMAO
edgy cipher
edgy jackal
Imagine if wraithknight or fire prism gets this damage. Then it becomes a roll off in a tau vs eldar game, who shoots first.
edgy cipher
I mean the difference is that the eldar are more expensive point wise
crisp forge
median pumice
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373256424068874260/928665013193936947/i...
Golden tummy boi
dapper magnet
I wanna start getting into painting, but I don't want to give money to 
, do you guys have alternative stores ? I only know dakkadakka.store
lapis tundra
I mean they buy their paints from gw too so u give moners to gw anyway
Only way to prevent that would be to go for other paint brands
hasty sorrel
literaly anywhere you buy stuff from the money goes to GW
median pumice
I mean they buy their paints from gw too so u give moners to gw anyway
Anvil miniatures, buy vallejo paints, and there are a lot more mini games out there.
Game of thrones has some lovely sculpts
And infinity too but theyre tiny
hasty sorrel
corvus belli also has some alright stuff for scifi
a bit more scifi and less science fantasy though
median pumice
Game of thrones and infinity by corvus belli
Seriously corvus belli has been killing it with their recent releases
vivid rune
I wanna start getting into painting, but I don't want to give money to <:gwtards...
Any LGSO is a good way to get alternative stuff. Also Army painter and Greenstuff World have better quality paints then GW
hoary ermine
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373256424068874260/928665013193936947/i...
gw be like
''yeah its a custodes dreadnought cause we glued the vexilla wings on''
median pumice
Infinity has a lot of metal minis but they recently got into a more environmentally safe resin/polymer thing too for their latest stuff like the bear thing
dapper magnet
lgso ?
lapis tundra
Local game store
median pumice
I like to use flgs friendly local game store haha
lapis tundra
Like a random hobby store, you prolly have one or two around
dapper magnet
I only have access to an official games workshop store where I live
lapis tundra
If you are in a bigger city
median pumice
Theyre also good to ask like... questions
lapis tundra
I only have access to an official games workshop store where I live
Fair
median pumice
I only have access to an official games workshop store where I live
Ahhh. Ebay works. And is usually cheaper?
lapis tundra
What city in particular if that isnt too private?
dapper magnet
Metz, France
lapis tundra
Ah i see
dapper magnet
there used to be another local store but it closed a long time ago
dapper magnet
Any LGSO is a good way to get alternative stuff. Also Army painter and Greenstuf...
I'll check these thanks
median pumice
Ebay can do the job, but it may be the shipping that gets you.
Corvus belli is in spain so they may ship to your area if you order direct
Im not in the EU so im not sure on the shipping rates
dapper magnet
Ahhh. Ebay works. And is usually cheaper?
true, I was thinking of checking out garage sales in a few months, I might find some stuff
median pumice
For a basic paint stuff id say a set of brushes, a wet pallet (you can make one or buy it) and a color set. Let me link you some stuff @dapper magnet
dapper magnet
I think I pretty much have everything needed at home, my sister used to study art
median pumice
dapper magnet
she had a lot of stuff laying around
median pumice
Ahhh gotcha
Also if you look online you should see a lot of tutorials.
Most common paint used in these are acrylics
dapper magnet
the tutorials are what made me want to start
median pumice
Not sure if she has those or oils or anything else
dapper magnet
median pumice
Ahhh gotcha
dapper magnet
this one looks great
median pumice
Robs good. Also Duncan Rhodes, and Angel Giraldez are good ones to follow
Though Angel uses a lot of airbrush he has some good paintint tutorials too
Besta luck dude
dapper magnet
ty
lapis tundra
Yee angel might be a lil too much for somebody just making their first steps into the hobby
dapper magnet
https://www.youtube.com/c/Zumikito/ I like this guy too
median pumice
Does have good fire effect though
lapis tundra
https://www.youtube.com/c/Zumikito/ I like this guy too
Yee i love him too
dapper magnet
discovered him through this https://youtu.be/YSBVSg2TKL4
lapis tundra
Hah yeah i remember that
dapper magnet
he wasted his whole army overnight
median pumice
Squidmar is pretty good as well
dapper magnet
basically by being lazy one evening
lapis tundra
The ones i discovered when starting to paint were gw's tutorials with ol duncan and then later miniac and trovarion
And then a damn lot more
Darren latham had some good stuff too
He deleted his channel but somebody reuploaded all of em
Especially his lord of blights series
median pumice
Vince is good. This is actually the gold i used for my custodes and emperor mini
lapis tundra
U got pics of em 😳
median pumice
U got pics of em 😳
I posted em on here before lol, but these are my old custodes with just a regular gold scheme. Not vinces forumla. The big E in the background is using vinces gold forumla
median pumice
I didnt have a chance or feeling to paint something new yet haha
median pumice
Honestly thats a mood. I sometimes look at my minis and im just... whyyyyyyy
lapis tundra
Yee sometimes the urge to just strip the mini and start again arises
median pumice
Bruh. Same
edgy jackal
I wanna start getting into painting, but I don't want to give money to <:gwtards...
https://www.pyrofolies.com/ I don't speak french, maybe this shop?
It might be only for a certain brand of effects though. I would recommend looking up stores that can supply army painter or vallejo paint.
plush swift
urban harbor
https://twitter.com/ChtiKenny/status/1479170289070137352?s=20
those dont look like any tyrant guards i have seen
they look so much more badass
plush swift
those dont look like any tyrant guards i have seen
3rd edition
plush swift
Oldhammer is Besthammer
urban harbor
idk oldhammer GSC patriarcs where ugly as shit next to the new models
dusky mango
its our boi
plush swift
idk oldhammer GSC patriarcs where ugly as shit next to the new models
those are from before the GSC were Tyranids iirc
vivid rune
vivid rune
idk oldhammer GSC patriarcs where ugly as shit next to the new models
Ugly bastards fetish material
lapis tundra
Old patriach got the drip dont @ me
vivid rune
Old patriach got the drip dont @ me
He do tho with the amulet
unborn night
Deathwatch, now with pauldrons
crisp forge
Wheres this from? 👁️
junior lagoon
median pumice
acoustic venture
Do you guys know Lancer the ttrpg
for I made more art, this time trying my hand at a completely different style
I wanted to share
green cave
Skele was into lancer iirc
hasty sorrel
what you LL you taken for it?
violet quiver
Show them your powerlevels Ceresila
hasty sorrel
ah fair
acoustic venture
Just started playing
hasty sorrel
i just finished a campaign where we played from LL 3-12
acoustic venture
Nice!
I am just starting a campaign- I have my Enlightened NHP and thats all I want
hasty sorrel
Was a tortuga/sherman for most of the game
ended up swapping to tortuga gorgon for full overwatch tank kit
acoustic venture
I want to do more Lancer art XD
So far this is my first mech and I want to now get all the commissions XD
All the mech
hasty sorrel
its amazing art tbh, good job
acoustic venture
thank you
hasty sorrel
almost looks like the official stuff
acoustic venture
I tried very hard to make it look like that- I don't usually draw like that
I prefer a more smooth, painted method
acoustic venture
Its just hydra for now- I took a heavy charged sword and may get metalmark LL later
rose osprey
https://f000.backblazeb2.com/file/ComicsGamesAndThings/6c311a4f-fd02-4467-a557-e...
wait a minute
thats just an AT-TE! d:
acoustic venture
thank
urban harbor
the fact that most of the heavy vehicles in star wars are also troop transports is still very wierd to me
rose osprey
yeah star wars has never made a lick of logistical sense lol
galactic republic be like
urban harbor
yeah its like if you looked at a super heavy battle tank and said "i want that to be an IFV as well"
urban harbor
galactic republic be like
the empire was even worse
bold copper
had a fun 1500 point game as orks facing harlequins
acoustic venture
Who won
bold copper
myself as the orks
buoyant flame
dusky mango
NICE
buoyant flame
I normally listen to lutin for lore while I paint too
edgy cipher
That's pretty good work
lapis tundra
Neat!
dusky mango
yeah, ur using them well
buoyant flame
Metalic blue melta with dry brushed metalic teal
lapis tundra
Love ur salamanders
buoyant flame
The picture doesn't pick it up well but the eyes are a red metalic gemstone colour
This is the third unit I ever painted 😅
lapis tundra
Yeah i have similar problems when taking pics of mine, they just tend to look worse than irl alas
buoyant flame
Ye. What do you play/paint
lapis tundra
Red corsairs atm but i also have some regular marines, a few dark angels, some death guard and also some nids and gsc
buoyant flame
lapis tundra
Stomped
dusky mango
nice!
buoyant flame
Second unit painted
Yea I saw those mold lines on the plasma guys leg. But I dont want to mess up the paint and primer to scrape it off so it will be a reminder that I need to pay more attention when prepping 😂
dusky mango
Yea I saw those mold lines on the plasma guys leg. But I dont want to mess up th...
yeah, I've done that too on a couple of my intercessors
I tried to scrape and repaint
lapis tundra
First mini i painted around 2015 and latest mini i painted last year
dusky mango
I made the error MORE obvious 
dusky mango
First mini i painted around 2015 and latest mini i painted last year
that's awesome
buoyant flame
Progress 
buoyant flame
First mini i painted around 2015 and latest mini i painted last year
5'11" vs 6' right there
lapis tundra
And some kitbashes of the next red corsairs im gonna paint
But yeah im an incredibly slow painter
And i usually start way more projects than i finish
buoyant flame
I have so much to build and paint
edgy cipher
Ew Infiltrator antennas
buoyant flame
But I buy more stuff 😂
lapis tundra
Ew Infiltrator antennas
Cope
lapis tundra
But I buy more stuff 😂
God yeah
edgy cipher
You ruined perfectly good minis with Primaris bull
lapis tundra
What are you on about zher? U good
edgy cipher
It's an inside joke mate
dusky mango
fairs
dusky mango
lmao
dusky mango
I took back what I said because I was wrong
I thought it was just actual hatred of primaris anything
edgy cipher
Imagine hating on imaginary stuff, cringe
buoyant flame
I got babied at games workshop a couple days ago
dusky mango
Imagine hating on imaginary stuff, cringe
indeed
buoyant flame
Was a very bizarre experience
lapis tundra
I got babied at games workshop a couple days ago
What happened? 👀
lapis tundra
You were the one with the eldar hateboner correct ?
Lmao
dusky mango
You were the one with the eldar hateboner correct ?
no. I like eldar. I intend to start collecting them as their range is refreshed
edgy cipher
Oh also I just don't like infiltrator and incursor armour because I find the tacticool on them distasteful
buoyant flame
I asked for the admech battle box. He said it got delayed to Canada so I was like ok cool.
Hes like, you have stuff to work on in the mean time?
I'm like yea I got a whole pile of shame.
Then he goes on about how I shouldn't feel shame from my non-completed kits
And im like
Are you good? It's a pretty well established meme in the community of the pile of shame
lapis tundra
Oh also I just don't like infiltrator and incursor armour because I find the tac...
I dislike them because they exposed their bellies for no reason and it just kinda looks off in general
dusky mango
Oh also I just don't like infiltrator and incursor armour because I find the tac...
now that is fair and I agree. I have a primaris army and I hope NEVER to use those models
dusky mango
I dislike them because they exposed their bellies for no reason and it just kind...
YES
lapis tundra
Are you good? It's a pretty well established meme in the community of the pile o...
Lol
dusky mango
just stick some ceramite over ur digestive system. its not that difficult
lapis tundra
Man some ppl at gw stores are odd indeed, one of reason i avoid them
hasty sorrel
as has been said a million times here
primaris arent hatrd for being primaris
they are hated for the amount of just dumb bullshit
edgy cipher
Damn, the GW hobbies attracts weirdos, who would have thought lmao
buoyant flame
More reason to shop at my local game store tbh
rare solstice
yeah, I don't mind most of the generic primaris personally, just find some of their many special units a bit weird
buoyant flame
My goal by the end of this year to to try and build and paint my salamanders
lapis tundra
primaris arent hatrd for being primaris
I mean gw just pulling millions of marines out of their butt for no reason besides moners kinda ruins them for me too
buoyant flame
I mean they needed to move the plot
lapis tundra
Not like dis tho, nothing changed really
buoyant flame
And they make every faction super beefy like necrons nids and chaos
So they needed a response in cannon for the new issues the imperium deals with
hasty sorrel
I mean gw just pulling millions of marines out of their butt for no reason besid...
like i said, dumb bullshit
dusky mango
queue someone mentioning Cawl can un-nid planets now
buoyant flame
I dont mind them.
lapis tundra
Pre 8th edition everything was moving towards cataclysmic events and the doom of humanity itself but then gw was like "yeah idk new marines that are better because reasons so have fun now"
buoyant flame
I mean in the lore. Nids only take the surface material of planets
And the atmosphere
hasty sorrel
I mean they needed to move the plot
you can move the plot without needing to deus ex machina
buoyant flame
If you restore the atmosphere some of the life comes back via permafrost microbes and plants
dusky mango
Pre 8th edition everything was moving towards cataclysmic events and the doom of...
I wasn't in 40k at that time, did ppl actualy expect the imperium or even the entire galaxy to end all fantasy to AOS style?
hasty sorrel
I mean in the lore. Nids only take the surface material of planets
thats new lore as of the cawl books
buoyant flame
Pre 8th edition everything was moving towards cataclysmic events and the doom of...
Marines are the biggest player base. And people like humanity underdog stories
edgy cipher
Yeah before they literally sucked the entirety of the planet, its even said on DoW 2
buoyant flame
thats new lore as of the cawl books
Is it?
lapis tundra
Nids are supposed to be the biggest threat to humanity, yet 1000 marines can defeat an entire fucking hivefleet consisting of countless billions. Like.. ??
dusky mango
Nids are supposed to be the biggest threat to humanity, yet 1000 marines can def...
battle of Maccrage?
buoyant flame
Nids are supposed to be the biggest threat to humanity, yet 1000 marines can def...
Is that from the baal book
dusky mango
Is that from the baal book
no. there were 38,000 marines (approx) at Baal
buoyant flame
Didn't the tau help the smurfs defeat
dusky mango
probably fewer
lapis tundra
But like random bloodthirster takes out leviathan because he wanna kill blood angels himself
edgy cipher
Ball was a tad better
If we forget the Mephiston and Donte bull ye
lapis tundra
Yet nids fought demons before and won. Thousands of demons pouring into reality every single second yet the nids won. Then random bloodthirster winds.. :/
dusky mango
How many of them were horus
too many 🥲
edgy cipher
buoyant flame
I remember there being a short story I heard where the tau assisted defending some imperial sector because it was close enough to risk tau space
urban harbor
How many of them were horus
iirc all of them at the end lol
lapis tundra
If you get my frustration on nids just being lore punching bags
hasty sorrel
But like random bloodthirster takes out leviathan because he wanna kill blood an...
chaos saving the day was activley the 3rd worst part of that storyline ye
buoyant flame
I mean the nids are literally entropy manifest
hasty sorrel
I remember there being a short story I heard where the tau assisted defending so...
theres a few books about that, the tau and imperium had a peace treaty temporarily after first contact with nids
dusky mango
But like random bloodthirster takes out leviathan because he wanna kill blood an...
he was aiming for Baal but Mephiston deflected him onto Baal primus with the aid of a bunch of other psykers
buoyant flame
I mean with the new rail gun stat line, tau space will be safe from all threats
hasty sorrel
basically macragge was partially eaten but that got retconned
to not hurt the smurfs feelings
baal on the otherhand was a bit more balanced on the fight end but then all the problems have been fixed by demons and cawl
buoyant flame
Was it literally just 1000 marines. No other defences?
hasty sorrel
pretty much yes
dusk hill
pov: you're a formation of 1000 marines just watching the nids walk past you
lapis tundra
Gw should really up their numbers tbh, 1000 marines is always made up to be incredibly much in lore and able to take planets on their own but hold shit ONLY 1000??!?? Thats almost nothing irl, you could easily pop them off with anti vehicle weapons from the distance
buoyant flame
I wish salamanders got a bit more lore love
buoyant flame
Gw should really up their numbers tbh, 1000 marines is always made up to be incr...
I mean have you seen the space marine movie
hasty sorrel
24 inch bolter don't reach orbit
uh they used a special weapon iirc? like a UM fleet tyrned up and shattered the entire hive fleet in one blow
dusk hill
Gw should really up their numbers tbh, 1000 marines is always made up to be incr...
don't expect BL authors to understand scale
lapis tundra
24 inch bolter don't reach orbit
I mean tabletop doesnt reflect the lore, magnus is near unkillable in lore yet he can just get gunned down in tabletop
dusk hill
if there are only 1k marines on a planet then like. It should be written that all the cool marine bolter porn is limited to like, precision strikes, while aux/IG fight the actual frontline
buoyant flame
I mean in lore space marines are literal 1 man armies
dusk hill
cus marines dominating frontlines alone is dumb
dusky mango
don't expect BL authors to understand scale
ratty is sadly, absolutely correct
dusk hill
no they aren't
dusky mango
BL has no concept of scale
dusk hill
they get shot once by smthn big and die
hasty sorrel
Gw should really up their numbers tbh, 1000 marines is always made up to be incr...
thats why they are supposed to be an auxiliary support to the IG, but its never shown as such because poster boys
buoyant flame
I think the astarties animation probably does them justice
edgy cipher
I mean in lore space marines are literal 1 man armies
Depends from the author, in some they are killed by 5 coordinated guardsmen
lapis tundra
1 squad takes out like 50 chaos warriors
Dont take the space marine movie as facts pls, chaos marines are just as good if not even better than regular marines
hoary ermine
BL has no concept of scale
Remember that GW stated the actual sizes of spaceships lorewise, and BL went; lets... triple that
lapis tundra
thats why they are supposed to be an auxiliary support to the IG, but its never ...
Dis
dusk hill
they're generally grossly more powerful in astartes than in most other material, and beyond that astartes is like
dusky mango
Remember that GW stated the actual sizes of spaceships lorewise, and BL went; le...
lmao
dusk hill
a precision strike vs unprepared enemies
buoyant flame
Dont take the space marine movie as facts pls, chaos marines are just as good if...
Marines in that move were first to have 2W compared to chaos marines
edgy cipher
Space marines are shock troups, not battlefield ones
hoary ermine
something like a cruiser being 2km long according to GW statement, and BL going; The smallest cruiser produced by mars was over 6km long
CHIEF
FUCKER
dusk hill
The whole military application of SM is meant to be that they're a scalpel. You don't use them on the frontlines of some unholy destructive hive planet war
you send them in on a few dropships to take out key targets
hoary ermine
b-but muh walking gunline of super soldiers
buoyant flame
Skitarii are the most based
hoary ermine
factual
buoyant flame
Change my cogitators
hoary ermine
its lore that they shitpost in the noosphere
dusk hill
putting SM on the frontline is a massive waste, it's like putting like. idk. taking trained knights off their horses, taking their armour and shoving them in with the men at arms
lapis tundra
I think the astarties animation probably does them justice
Yesish, the lascannon thingy would have fucked the marine up badly, swiss cheese marine. Same with the autocannon. Marine armour works agains small arms fire but anything higher than that can punch through it
dusk hill
sure they'll fight better than the peasants but it's kinda pointless
buoyant flame
In lore space marines only function in the style of kill teams
dusk hill
yee p much
buoyant flame
Not 2k point armies
dusk hill
well not quite but that similar general vibe
hasty sorrel
Yesish, the lascannon thingy would have fucked the marine up badly, swiss cheese...
i was resisting mentioning it cause someone would complain again
dusk hill
yee i can respect it with astartes just cus it's such a well made animation, but if u wanna lore nerd it up then a few of them prolly should've died
hoary ermine
YOU, TAU COMMANDER! Would you like to meet the space marine commander?
Y/N?
y
VERY WELL, Droppod inbound.
buoyant flame
Yesish, the lascannon thingy would have fucked the marine up badly, swiss cheese...
It wasn't a Las cannon it was a lasgun thingy
dusk hill
anti material and anti vehicle weapons are kinda like, the counter for SM
dusky mango
multilas
buoyant flame
That
buoyant flame
It was just 6 flashlights duct taped together
lapis tundra
That was a multilas, they can pen marine armour
dusk hill
YOU, TAU COMMANDER! Would you like to meet the space marine commander?
Y/N?
*y*
...
broken sword did do a pretty good job of this iirc
hoary ermine
i believe so yeah
hoary ermine
That was a multilas, they can pen marine armour
this just reminds me of Astartes and the dual lascannon
buoyant flame
I mean the multilas probably lost some effectiveness as it went thre like 3 dozen men before it got to the marine
dusk hill
vs tau the imps fighting on the frontlines are knights and catachans, they charge a tau fortress as a distraction while like 7 marines or smthn jetpack in
lapis tundra
anti material and anti vehicle weapons are kinda like, the counter for SM
Yeah basically anything you use against medium or heavily armoured vehicles irl is what you use to kill marines
dusk hill
I mean the multilas probably lost some effectiveness as it went thre like 3 doze...
It was hitting him like, squarly all around the body, with nobody inbetween it and him, for quite a few seconds
and it just melted the surface of the armour
hasty sorrel
I mean the multilas probably lost some effectiveness as it went thre like 3 doze...
apart from the bit where it kept firing after they were dead and he just stood there
dusk hill
Idc honestly but it does give ppl the impression that marines are like, unkillable demigods, which is v much not the case in most good stuff
buoyant flame
True enough
hasty sorrel
for context
multilas is mounted on chimeras (a single, and not a double as in the animation) and can burn through vehicle armour, let alone a single astartes
hoary ermine
and it just melted the surface of the armour
do keep in mind the ceramite coating
lapis tundra
Loved how he dodged the missile tho since that thing would have just obliterated him
hoary ermine
the ''sacrificial'' layer of an inch thick
dusk hill
if u shoot a marine with small arms weaponry like lasguns or conventional ballistic machine guns or whatever,they'll be fine. They'll also be pretty quick to respond to any threat, which astartes depicted nicely with a marine shanking some dude with an explosive before he could blow it up
buoyant flame
I mean if all the shots hit the same point I completely agree
dusk hill
cus if he had successfully suicided himself with that bomb the marine should be dead
buoyant flame
But it hit every part of him
hoary ermine
I mean lasguns can punch the joints or helmet eyes
dusk hill
if they're shot with like a plasma gun, they're dead
lapis tundra
Alas 40k doesnt try to make sense whith weapons. I present to you krak and frag grenade. Yeah.
dusk hill
anti vehicle weaponry in any capacity, ded
buoyant flame
40k probably does better weapon damage than starwars
lapis tundra
if u shoot a marine with small arms weaponry like lasguns or conventional ballis...
Bri'ish marine
buoyant flame
Where blasters delete concrete
dusky mango
40k probably does better weapon damage than starwars
yes it does
hasty sorrel
I mean lasguns can punch the joints or helmet eyes
a normal lasgun yes, this is a vehicle size lasgun however
2 infact
dusk hill
I mean lasguns can punch the joints or helmet eyes
Who remembers the fluff blurb with some sniper drones picking off an entire squad of marines by just shooting through their helmet eyes
lapis tundra
Yeah starwars is a lot worse lmao
buoyant flame
Its a big flash light
hoary ermine
Who remembers the fluff blurb with some sniper drones picking off an entire squa...
yes
buoyant flame
Tau propaganda
hoary ermine
Even GW mentions it actively that; lasguns are some fucking titanic piece of tech
dusky mango
Tau propaganda
indeed
lapis tundra
Like in lore stormtrooper armour can stop current day high calibre rifles, yet they got fucked up by literal teddy bears with toy bows 💀
hasty sorrel
Who remembers the fluff blurb with some sniper drones picking off an entire squa...
one of my fav book intros was a sniper creeping through some ruins and then just obliterating a CSM head with a longlas shot through the eye
hoary ermine
but everything else is just better
dusk hill
bless
buoyant flame
I'm not going to lie tho. That tau style space marine armor looks really neat
hoary ermine
the Gue'ron'Vesa
dusk hill
more traitor marines that aren't just chaos would be neat in general
buoyant flame
I dont speak weeabo
hoary ermine
look i think all marine stans can suck nut, you cant tell me that from all those marine chapters, not a single one of them decided; the imperium aint that good, for the greater pog
hoary ermine
I dont speak weeabo
get new material
buoyant flame
more traitor marines that *aren't* just chaos would be neat in general
Like the renegade marines
That left their legions due to disagreement
dusky mango
look i think all marine stans can suck nut, you cant tell me that from all those...
yeah u can
hoary ermine
you can try
dusky mango
I can suceed
lapis tundra
more traitor marines that *aren't* just chaos would be neat in general
Holy fuck yes pls
hasty sorrel
tbh i can see why they wouldnt
"ah yes i shall leave one heavily indoctrinated empire for another, now under xenos"
lapis tundra
Its either literal fascist or literal fascist but with horns and tentacles 💀
dusky mango
tbh i can see why they wouldnt
"ah yes i shall leave one heavily indoctrinated e...
ty
hoary ermine
oh definitely, one empire for another is a fact
hasty sorrel
standard renegade marines would be neat to see more of tho
hoary ermine
yep
buoyant flame
I mean they're all heavily indoctrinated through and before recruitment
dusk hill
Its either literal fascist or literal fascist but with horns and tentacles 💀
chaos is boring
im sorry chaos fans some of ur factions are fun but
chaos is dull as bricks
dusky mango
I mean they're all heavily indoctrinated through and before recruitment
and the tau have no way of driving u insane, unlike chaos
hoary ermine
I mean they're all heavily indoctrinated through and before recruitment
so were the former renegades and chaos marines
dusk hill
agreed
lapis tundra
Chaos marines are boring
They look cool :(
dusky mango
chaos is dull as bricks
its more interesting than the tau imo
buoyant flame
Gene stealer corrupted Geneseed when
dusk hill
i do really like the aesthetic the new chaos marine kit has, i'll give them that
green cave
Gene stealer corrupted Geneseed when
Already happened
dusky mango
Gene stealer corrupted Geneseed when
SM self destruct if that happens. gsc can't get them
buoyant flame
We're there pics of genestealer marines
dusky mango
We're there pics of genestealer marines
there are none
green cave
Oh, that way, no that way is not gonna happen
dusk hill
its more interesting than the tau imo
idk like, there really isn't much to chaos is the issue for me? You can have good chaos characters, there's a lot i hear abt from my like two (2) friends who actually read HH nonsense
buoyant flame
I feel like the hive fleets have eaten enough space marines that surely they'd just use that to make better nids
buoyant flame
Chaos aka angsty teenagers that refuses to do what their dad says and get a real job
hoary ermine
ive said it before
dusky mango
and the tau are just totalitarians with an aggressive foreign policy and horrible population control measures. u don't even need to go to 40k for that. we have those
hoary ermine
chaos marines just feel like plankton to me
lapis tundra
Nids are smarter than marines, they dont need marine dna or some other stuff
dusk hill
They should be like, amoral grey forces of nature with dubious sentience and like, being so larger than life that they don't have any discernible motivations, that's the only rly interesting way to frame chaos gods in WH
hoary ermine
YOU CANT BEAT ME CADIA
dusky mango
both are cool in setting but I prefer chaos
hoary ermine
NOT IF I TURN THIS FORTRESS TO MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE
buoyant flame
They 9/11 cadia
dusky mango
NOT IF I TURN THIS FORTRESS TO MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE
launches blackstone fortress like its a heccing Bayblade
buoyant flame
let it rip
buoyant flame
Its sad that gsc has more interesting subdifuge than choas
lapis tundra
I love chaos in lore, im sorry ratty. Ofc the obligatory evil big dude with a big axe is boring but i especially like the segments when they arent fighting, like their regular stuff
dusk hill
and the tau are just totalitarians with an aggressive foreign policy and horribl...
tau actually have gimmicks. They're a socioeconomic system, v collectivist, interesting vibes with morality, you can explore a lot of diff themes and ideas with them
hoary ermine
but its actually the fortress
dusk hill
chaos is just, idk
lapis tundra
Also
buoyant flame
They bey-stone fortress
hoary ermine
ORK STEALERS
lapis tundra
There is incredibly much to explore
dusk hill
hurr durr imperium bad yeah sure but all chaos is is a gaggle of shittily written big bad god villains
edgy cipher
Lords of Silence good, cope
dusk hill
manipulating the ~often tragic and misunderstood space marines that got forced into damnation~
no
hoary ermine
listen if i fell to chaos, id fall to tzeentch and become skeletor levels of shitty villain
dusky mango
abbadon launching a beyblede
yey
hoary ermine
appear and dissappear with a shitty quote
become the imperium's most feared but useless enemy
even worse than abbadon but actually funny
dusk hill
i'll just headcanon an actually interesting chaos system
lapis tundra
The ahriman books were really good ratty, they might change ur mind on chaos
hoary ermine
NYEE GUILLIMAN, YOU MAY HAVE DESTROYED MY HYPER-LASER-DEATH-TIGERS, BUT ILL BE BACK WITH SHARKS AND FRIKIN LASERBEAMS!
dusk hill
ok ahriman does look slightly more interesting will give u that
lapis tundra
He is
dusky mango
tau actually have gimmicks. They're a socioeconomic system, v collectivist, inte...
everytime I start to read about Tau I just get angy because they remind me too much of real life, at least the imperium and chaos are ridiculous enough to be laughed at
lapis tundra
And so are the other chaos character appearing
buoyant flame
Imagine chaos founding like well off planets with happy civilians and its just like a modern day planet but it's so antithetical to the imperium that it's considered chaos
dusky mango
love the Thousand Sons
lapis tundra
Also the talon of horus book(?) was really good
hasty sorrel
i'll just headcanon an actually interesting chaos system
literally all you have to do is ignore the black legion and anything to do with CSM chapters being a unified threat in realspace, have them be summoned by cults in only real bad situations
immediatly better
buoyant flame
I like how the necrons have their own deathstar that's just a flying skull
hoary ermine
i just love the thousand sons, and ahriman trying to be a good bean
dusk hill
everytime I start to read about Tau I just get angy because they remind me too m...
idk they're not really like anything irl. I love sci fi that explores different societal systems to our own, esp relative to technological advancement
that's like,,, kinda the point of sci fi imo
lapis tundra
Ah yes my irl floating tanks with irl gigantic flying mechsuits
buoyant flame
If you like sci-fi society concepts go listen/ read the red rising trilogy
Sooooo good
lapis tundra
i just love the thousand sons, and ahriman trying to be a good bean
He is my favourite good bean
dusky mango
that's like,,, kinda the point of sci fi imo
I agree, I just find their style of imperialism and dissinformation too close to real techniques used by large countries irl. so when I start to read about them its just like, ah yeah buying influence through investment then installing a puppet government. the classic
dusk hill
yeahhh lmao
dusky mango
so I can't vibe while reading them
dusk hill
tau are the one faction that would fund insurgents and fight awful proxy wars for resources
dusky mango
because it feels like reading the news but with different place names
lapis tundra
tau are the one faction that would fund insurgents and fight awful proxy wars fo...
Remove the would, its canon
dusky mango
tau are the one faction that would fund insurgents and fight awful proxy wars fo...
they probably have
hoary ermine
Oh right fun fact; Physics wont prevent us from building knights or even warlord titans
dusky mango
the Don'bass sept
hoary ermine
engineering will
dusk hill
imps would just sit there for like four decades until they noticed, then another eight decades later they'd flatten whatever offending planet with a fleet of like 10 cruisers
lapis tundra
They already fueled uprisings with providing tau guns and stuff
dusky mango
They already fueled uprisings with providing tau guns and stuff
I want to see that backfire against them
like it usually does itl
*irl
hasty sorrel
imps would just sit there for like four decades until they noticed, then another...
just as the emporer intended
lapis tundra
I want to see that backfire against them
It did iirc
lapis tundra
Appeared in a random codex
lapis tundra
Ill see if i find it
dusk hill
i forget if this was a fanfic or not but i remember one plot with the tau supplying guns to what they thought was a regular insurgency, turns out it's GSC ✨
dusky mango
ty
dusk hill
it's great
dusky mango
lmao
hoary ermine
the Don'bass sept
dusky mango
https://twitter.com/kannovaku/status/1477623160707031040/photo/1
I meant to reference Russia's proxy war in eastern Ukraine that is currently escelating while they mess with the price of natural gas but this too
hoary ermine
true
lapis tundra
Couldnt find it alas
And dont have the engery to search the other codexes i have lying around
dusky mango
alright. Thank you for trying Bobo
median pumice
Soooo whens the saturday sale go live?
hoary ermine
Which sale
buoyant flame
When is dark tide even coming out 😭
median pumice
Which sale
The games workshop stuff
median pumice
Thats what i meant.
dusky mango
When is dark tide even coming out 😭
spring this year, check the announcements channel
buoyant flame
i means a more accurate date
hoary ermine
Thats what i meant.
Whats going on preorder this weekend then
dusky mango
Whats going on preorder this weekend then
please be the eldar please be the eldar please be the eldar
median pumice
Custodes and gsc
hoary ermine
that boxset of theirs?
dusky mango
hec
median pumice
Rules and dice too
hoary ermine
i have 2 packs of the rigged dice
buoyant flame
im trying to sell my eldar
hoary ermine
dont need any more lmao
median pumice
hoary ermine
im just waiting for that new ahriman book
heady lotus
bold copper
so initial consensus on the new codexes seems to be that the custodes one is really good while the GSC one is doomed to mediocrity for another edition despite getting some really cool stuff.
that is a shame. GSC have some really cool stuff in their book
elfin yew
Are they insane LMAO
The GSC codex is straight fucking amazing
The Custodes one funnily enough, got the lesser glowup
It's better than the custodes one
Both in fun, and about on par for rules
So much so that Goonhammer had to include a "cope" warning in their custodes review
Vs their talk of the GSC one
urban harbor
so banana bois ok and GSC game winning homerun
elfin yew
Essentially yes
verbal sapphire
Prefer it this way ngl
elfin yew
They're probably about equal balance wise, but GSC went from d-tier to good and custodes went from
good to good
verbal sapphire
GSC and Orks are two armies I don't rly mind being consistently S tier
verbal sapphire
Because they don't feel that bad losing against
Since you get to kill lotsa gribblies
elfin yew
Esp now since Cults dont have to rely on feelsbad moments to win
verbal sapphire
t5 kinda spooky doe
elfin yew
😳
verbal sapphire
I do think crossfire is a bit
elfin yew
I just played against orkz actually
verbal sapphire
Convoluted
elfin yew
Yee It's not too bad honestly
quaint star
could you explain it?
verbal sapphire
I do like that they bring back tokens though
dusk hill
what even is crossfire?
bold copper
my personal opinion is that it seems like complication for the sake of complication, but what do i know
elfin yew
Yes but I'm playing mordhau
verbal sapphire
Big Iron Fire vibes
elfin yew
Mayo can explain mayb
dusk hill
explain to us the bug magics
verbal sapphire
TL;dr you hit thing then other unit that hit thing hit thing better
elfin yew
if flanking
+1 to wound
MANY ways to apply crossfire tokens
MANY stratagems around them
verbal sapphire
GSC 30k IW
🤝
Token based fire special rule
elfin yew
It lets
bad autoguns
punch up
Representing well
crossfiring
my god if tau had crossfire
that'd be OMEGA broken
also ontop of crossfire
bold copper
GSC personally don't seem like my thing, i prefer the faction that makes their cars out of a trash can and duct tape
elfin yew
basically everything we have
are way better
Our characters may genuinely be some of the best in the game
We can now use command abilities cross map and just
drop a psyker power
buff
from anywhere
urban harbor
GSC personally don't seem like my thing, i prefer the faction that makes their c...
so orks
urban harbor
anti tank rounds
with pistols?
elfin yew
with pistols?
yes
Wyrmtooth rounds
And with exposed
Only S6 but can get a +1 to wound rather easily as a keler
and can drop 6 shots of this potentially
And can move-shoot
and has a 2cp stratagem to shoot on death
suicide bombing this guy infront of tank commanders then shooting them again on death
He can also switch between wyrmtooth rounds and his regular volontium bullets at any moment
verbal sapphire
Abaddon killer weapon ngl
is wyrmtooth round only 1 shot
or can each pistol shoot it once
elfin yew
each pistol cans hoot it once
AND
kelermorphs
get 1 extra shot
for each shot hit
So a potential of 6 shots
Prett ylikely too since he hits on a 2+
elfin yew
It does lose its ability to shoot chars through Look out sir tho
elfin yew
Yeee
verbal sapphire
elfin yew
Im excited fo rthem because now even TC's will not be safe from my keler
verbal sapphire
TC?
elfin yew
Tank commanders LMAO
urban harbor
the "drive closer i wana hit them with my sword" guys?
verbal sapphire
Oh
verbal sapphire
Tank commanders LMAO
Sigma Revolver vs Virgin 1 ft thick armoured plating
urban harbor
Actually idk if commissars can even be put in tanks
i seem to recall seeing a krieg model with one but idk if that was a kit bash or not
bold copper
So glad these got a separate release finally
lapis tundra
😳
green cave
So, if those bugs can get such bullets it means they are imperial tech... Good... Good
edgy cipher
Actually idk if commissars can even be put in tanks
Nope they cant
ruby jay
i'm putting together a Stargate SG-1 Colonel O'Neill costume for airsoft
i've got everything either on hand or on order now
very excited
vivid rune
nice!
ruby jay
oh, except the M9
vivid rune
understandable lol
ruby jay
the one i want is out of stock everywhere
and it's the only gas blowback one that's 1:1 scale
the jacket i got is not correct, but a correct jacket essentially does not exist
so this one is close enough
coul;d technically have bought the screen-correct jacket but it'd be XXXL and i'm a small-medium
green cave
i'm putting together a Stargate SG-1 Colonel O'Neill costume for airsoft
Fokken amazing mate
green cave
What about the p90?
ruby jay
it's on the way
green cave
Good
ruby jay
WEtech gas blowback
green cave
I remember seeing some video of a guy with the same set
ruby jay
it's not show-accurate but i could mount a light and laser on it to get close
wouldn't have the original
reflex sight
instead it has a rail on the top
green cave
WEtech gas blowback
Eh, i'm out of the airsoft scene for so much that this mean nothing to me sadly
buoyant flame
ruby jay
the one they used in the show was a Tokyo Marui
but that one is electric
gas blowback is cooler than electric
green cave
Yooo, salamanders crusade era, nice one... When is the barbecue?
green cave
gas blowback is cooler than electric
When i was thinking what to take i would always went for electric, gas is unreliable imo
green cave
Mk3 is basically the only good looking marine armor
Is it the maximus pattern?
buoyant flame
I dont know. All I know is it's the mk3 marine armor. I'm using them as tactical marines for my 40k army. Makes sense lore wise for salamander surplus equipment for lack of marines
green cave
Not wanting to destroy your idea, but they aren't really understaffed
Nor they have many old stuff
At least in 40K
vivid rune
bold copper
median pumice
By this guys editing probabaly GSC video later this day or something
buoyant flame
Not wanting to destroy your idea, but they aren't really understaffed
they only had 7 companies after the horus heresy, and they never really fully recovered
royal compass
from what I remember, those 7 companies have more than the usual 100 marines, although they still have less than 1000 total
something to do with the Firedrakes being more "elite" than your usual 1st company, and veterans staying longer in their own company as a result?
green cave
they only had 7 companies after the horus heresy, and they never really fully re...
That has nothing to do with their numbers though, but more on their tradition to have seven warrior houses
But you are right, they seems to be slightly less than a codex compliant chapter
The question is: are they really understaffed if that is exactly the number they want to be?
buoyant flame
The way I always interpreted the lore was they never really reached their full capacity for recruitment/expenditure of marines
If there's more lore I'm missing id be happy to digest it
green cave
Well, they are definitely limited in the recruits, since they can only recruit from Nocturne
Regarding how many SM die, it depend on the fights they do, maybe they don't have many losses and manage to remain at their full strength at all time, which is still less than a codex compliant chapter, but if it is what they want eh
It is like the space wolves, they don't have 10 companies, they have 12
Does this mean they are overstaffed? They are also very similar to salamanders in the limitations for recruits
buoyant flame
Space wolves recruit from more than fenrus dont they?
quaint halo
My friend is commissioning me to do his Slannesh
edgy cipher
edgy jackal
Riptide update? Broadsides?
quaint halo
So playing a shit ton of Mechwarrior 5 has gotten me back into Battletech
dusky mango
NICE
crisp forge
pew pew
dusky mango
an Astartes and Eldar box set. litterally my 2 favourite factions. may or may not get me into aeronautica imperialis ngl
dapper magnet
man vs woman in a supermarket
quaint halo
Tactical rock
vivid rune
@crisp forge its also compatable with the older kit so you can mix and match
bold copper
Good options
vivid rune
I really like the helmet of the older kit
crisp forge
👀
dusky mango
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373256424068874260/930127747806789722/u...
NICE
all good news
crisp forge
Most likely just randomly painted
id say iyanden but it has no blues to go with the yellow
dusky mango
nah there is a world rune on the cloth
at the bottom
I think that is supposed to be Iyanden
there is blue on the wraithbonebeard
the wraithbeard
crisp forge
nah there is a world rune on the cloth
OH YEAH
THATS IYANDEN
its so white i didnt fucking see it
dusky mango
neither did I at first
edgy jackal
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373256424068874260/930127747806789722/u...
Damn, that's a fine autarch kit. Pose is a bit uninspired, but the options are top notch.
edgy cipher
Overlord for my mate https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910347522290098246/930153055599595581/20220110_183518.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910347522290098246/930153055817707561/20220110_183434.jpg
compact umbra
this new eldar crap makes me wnan get eldar
but idk how i woudl make them
i dont like usual craft world crap
hasty sorrel
seems to have limited vocabulary
crisp forge
i dont like usual craft world crap
Then dont get them
I love necrons but dont want their stuff either
mostly because shaky hands
compact umbra
i didnt thinki would like chaos till i found my true loves of EC
ill look up some eldar crap
see if i lik eit
compact umbra
I think i would like corsairs but idk enough about them
compact umbra
Yeah but you can run them as normal eldar, and scap crap on them to make them look cool
edgy cipher
***they did once***
Seems like they will again
crisp forge
man id hope so
corsairs actually got unique equipment
running them as normal guardians was always bizarre to me
edgy cipher
Well the leaks have mentionned corsair detachments and corsairs getting their KT box that will be used for making units
compact umbra
Yeahhh the wings
edgy cipher
Well seeing how GW has decided to give the eldar a good makeover there is hope
compact umbra
i was gonna throw blankets and silks on them and give antiquarian vibes
BECAUSE GOD I LOVE SPACE PIRATES
edgy cipher
That does sound like a neat idea
crisp forge
i was gonna throw blankets and silks on them and give antiquarian vibes
Thats basically rangers
👁️
crisp forge
Rangers.
compact umbra
OHHH RANGERSSS
crisp forge
bold copper
finished inquisitor: martyr and i think my final verdict would be a 6/10. the core gameplay is good but it's mired by a bunch of useless tedium and more boring sections than necessary.
compact umbra
with or without friends?
bold copper
same either way
having friends can make any game more fun. so i really don't factor that in
also the music is really generic and doesn't fit the setting at all
compact umbra
andthe voiceacting and writing pains my soul
bold copper
the story was also an interesting concept ruined by the devs making it so inconsequential
i never really found myself caring
and in a world where the dawn of war 1 & 2, mechanicus, and necromunda hired gun soundtracks exist, there is no excuse for a 40k soundtrack to be so bland
compact umbra
I had a blast offing eldar, im glad the bloodshed feels fun if you arent low on hp
bold copper
i guess i would say check it out if you get it at a heavy discount
bold copper
but it really doesn't succeed at what it was trying to be
i'll just sit back and wait for chaos gate: daemonhunters now
compact umbra
itsgonna literally be xcom
its literally gonna be xcom
also there should 100% be a pvp imperial knight game
elfin yew
turn-based
grey knights
😴
elfin yew
P sure it's because Nurgle is most relevant to the current plot in 40k, so GW likely asks their sub-media stuff to include them
compact umbra
this was such a good chance to introduce interesting mechanics and you will need to change your tatics
Slaanesh is pretty important atm in AoS
elfin yew
Yeah in AoS
bold copper
Still going to be good since it looks like mechanicus with some extra stuff thrown in
compact umbra
BUT IM SO TIRED OF LOOKING AT FUCKING GROSS ASS FLOWERS
crisp forge
Nurgle has only been in like 3 games
chill
compared to Khorne whos been in fucking 10
compact umbra
IFJHHJKFDBAKJJFKD I KNOW BUT IT FEELS LIKE HE IS EVERYWHERE
green cave
I just want a game where i can use Skitarii, it can be turn based or real time strategy, but i want to have units or squads
Mechanicus is kinda what i'm looking for
bold copper
Also you get to beat up mortarion in chaos gate daemonhunters
edgy cipher
Really hope you can actually beat him
He sounds more like either a final boss or optional boss, so likely extremely strong and broken
crisp forge
Just like the Grey Knights, excellent 👀
elfin yew
Free wl traits!
elfin yew
is there ever a reason to not run a patriarch in a GSC>
If ur on a point budget p much
Theyre our most expensive hq at like 140 pts iirc
compact umbra
it seems well worth it tbh uness you are going only lke
500 points or less
actually les sthan 500 points
elfin yew
Yeah if ur playing 500pts patty can take up just over a 5th of ur army
So shes p amazing in even that scenario too
The main thing u run her for tho
Is the Leadership of the Cult stratagem
Which gives 2 other hqs warlord traits
And if u ran that at lowpt, ur looking at like, half ur army in HQs
compact umbra
OH SHIT INNERWYRM IS A MAJOR GSC NOW?
compact umbra
oH OHHhh okay because the fucking uhh ones that hollow our meteors and throw them at ppl is considered a minor cult
so i wasnt too sure
even tho they ahd liek art
okay
gotchu
lapis tundra
Robit 🙏
thorny totem
I’m gonna use the second Helverin and my Knight Valiant to make a halo scarab but with a Knight’s flair
dusky mango
Assembled my first Helverin
nice
elfin yew
Assembled my first Helverin
I lov ur trygon