#40k-minis-and-armies

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proud gorge
compact umbra
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Also, the new tau KT, is it normal tau or do they have special crap?

rain void
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its firewarriors, pathfinders, or stealths

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kroot technically are their own thing too

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most they can bring with are drones

compact umbra
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Stealth Kroot?

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OH

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YEA

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I was fuckinh imagining Kroot in like, a gullie suit

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But you meant 2 different things

rain void
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yea

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stealth suited tau

elfin yew
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Also yeah, for some reason Kroot and Tau got seperated

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which is rlly funny because all of kroot's model are fucking ancient

rain void
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kroot can bring krootox but thats the extent of something heavy from the tau dex

compact umbra
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Wait, people don’t 3d print Kroot? I’ve never met anyone who used like the actual official Kroot modes

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I know people use the krootox tho

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Ok mayeb that’s because I don’t talk to taunplayers

rain void
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well the conga line guy did since that was a GW event

compact umbra
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OH YEA THAT FUCKING ROGUE TRADER MDOEL UFCKIBG BANGS

rain void
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there was also the blackstone fortress one

compact umbra
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Yes that’s th e one I’m taking about

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It’s so

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Good

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God I want new RT KT rules

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Like, just grab a random model from a few different armies

lapis tundra
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Yooo

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In case you didnt decide yet i would go for orange

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Something like this perhaps

plush swift
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The Big Boy and the Killer Chair

verbal sapphire
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Big fan of the weathering Thumbsup

lapis tundra
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Same

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Love ur fists!

dusk hill
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fancy af

plush swift
arctic ridge
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Unit

crisp forge
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he DO be a boi tho

opal egret
lapis tundra
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Yess

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Also reminder for me to continue painting my terminator

twilit cliff
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im might be blind and stupid but what's the difference with these new csm?

sour hill
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My DW already has red weapons which I'm trying to completely avoid.

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So my BT will have black and brass.

lapis tundra
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Bless

lapis tundra
opal egret
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They're higher quality across the board.

sour hill
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Holy FUCK this is a great cosplay.

solar garden
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Holy shit

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That does not look real

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That's amazing

vivid rune
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Holy shit thats amazing

dusk hill
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Yee professional cosplay types don't fuck around

hasty sorrel
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ye thats been about for a while

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its flat just

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the best 40k cosplay

crisp forge
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Yeah its clearly inspired by the DOW3 trailer

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the wraithbone texture is exactly the same, it looks amazing

lapis tundra
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Oh it 100% does

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Saw a vid to that cosplay ages ago, lemme find it

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There, 5 years ago 🙏

hoary ermine
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Chief is that the accurate costume?

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i cant imagine the hours of just staring and trying to figure out if that part is truly finished

plush swift
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The image is great but it still reminds me of DoW 3.

crisp forge
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Yes uh

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thats kinda the point

rose sluice
void orchid
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God what a sick trailer that was

lapis tundra
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Trailer gud gaem bad

crisp forge
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the only good thing about the game tbh lol

proud gorge
sour hill
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My arm is completed. 1 down.

median pumice
sour hill
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The purple is a little cloudy around it. I'll probably Nuln the purple to help lessen the brightness on the black.

void orchid
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Sick bruh

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I think the effect looks great as is

sour hill
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Purple was the move. With so much being black/gold it just pops. Purple is such a pretty colour 😳

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Really?

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I'll leave it. 💖

void orchid
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Yee

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It's supposed to stand out

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Sells the effect better even under bright lighting too

slate swallow
sour hill
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I used some very high rated tutorial. Helped me get a feel for what I wanted to do.

edgy cipher
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That's a real nice plasma effect well done

hoary ermine
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sour hill
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@hoary ermine Hehehe. As time goes on you'll see. Shiny gold and black Redemptor.

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I'm making this guy to honour my dad.

sage matrix
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That’s awesome man! If you ever need pointers or ideas I’m happy to help out!

hoary ermine
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👌

sage matrix
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I’m in the process of painting my own redemptor too!

hoary ermine
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pog plating

sour hill
# sage matrix

Yessss! I saw. Good luck with it. I love the added details you've got on yours.

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And also thanks for offering help/advice. :] I'll make sure to pick your brain. You're one of the best painters in here so it's appreciated!

near jungle
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burna boy from the OG dawn of war trailer

sour hill
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Oh nice job! Is this yours?

near jungle
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Yup!

lapis tundra
lapis tundra
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Next marine kitbash wip 😩

arctic ridge
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Everyday we get closer to a full hand reveal.

lapis tundra
rose sluice
sour hill
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Time to keep this Redemptor going.

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Tryna get most of the major painting done today.

sour hill
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This just came today.

dusky mango
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which chapter/ legion/ warband are you going for?

sour hill
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Black Templar.

dusky mango
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nice

sour hill
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It's mostly for my Diorama.

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But.

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Maybe I can figure out a decent army build for.it.

dusky mango
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that thing must be about the size of a house brick

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I hope you have fun creating it no matter where it ends up

sour hill
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Absolutely. Very very excited to create him. 💖

vivid rune
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Like

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Best dreadnought strong

sour hill
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Ooooo. Even better!

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The storm cannons just looked so sick on them

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I watched a 40Kin40m episode and this dude had a Leviathan Dread for his Space Wolf army and it just looked incredible.

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I knew I wanted one after.

sour hill
compact umbra
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The new underhive outcast gang is literally perfect for chaos cultists

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You can totally make them into iron warrior cultists, alpha legion, maybe even World eaters. With a little work you can probably some word bearers and emperor’s children

void orchid
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my overall favorite looking dread

sour hill
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Same! Especially with the storm cannons. Feels very Armored Core to me.

twilit cliff
lapis tundra
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Yooo check this conversion out @sour hill

sour hill
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That's SICK!

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Big gun gang.

lapis tundra
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I love him so much

compact umbra
dusky mango
dusky mango
sour hill
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Also I need to dirty up his fingers a bit more as well.

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That gold is too clean.

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I want to start assembling the basing at least for my Leviathan though.

lapis tundra
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Beeg boi

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Lovely dreadnought

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Id clean the base rim up a lil (more noticable in tha last pic) but other than that hes great

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Especially the plasma

sour hill
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Last pic is not the finished base.

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Just the only shot I had of the back. 😔

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1st and 2nd though have it finished.

dusky mango
sour hill
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Sadly I need to take a test tonight.

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If I pass, I'll treat myself to working on my Leviathan.

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Otherwise I will not touch WH until I do pass. 😔

dusky mango
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good luck!

median pumice
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GW sales be like

lapis tundra
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Lmao

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Are they even doing black friday sale?

sour hill
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LOL

median pumice
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They are doing like... big box sales. <_<

lapis tundra
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Thats it tho right? I dont think ge will ever do stuff like sales. On their webstore at least

sour hill
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Aight, I passed my class.

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Leviathan boy will be built this week.

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Tomorrow night I'll make the base.

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I want him stepping over some smashed down wall.

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With rubble all over.

bold copper
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Almost finished

sour hill
vivid rune
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STOP HAVING FUN WITH YOUR HOBBY!

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I havent gotten to paint anything in fucking WEEKS!!!

bold copper
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make me

sour hill
bold copper
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i could probably get more of my minis painted if i weren't such a perfectionist

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something in my reptile brain activates when i start painting that just makes me believe that everything must look amazing

sour hill
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I just paint to a quality that brings me joy.

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It's going to just sit in my room anyways.

bold copper
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i just wish i had more time

sour hill
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Same. Always.

hoary ermine
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Yeeep

crisp forge
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I see gems

edgy cipher
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Yes that's why I pinged proud

lapis tundra
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New faction: primaris space marine corsairs. This one got an sabre with a soulstone as decoration

sweet hull
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I'll take a wild guess knowing nothing about eldar factions other than wraithguard or whatever they are called being the ones with the pure white helmets and say that its one of those scorpions

dusk hill
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get that corsair shit out of here if ur doing alternative eldar stuff ur doing exodites

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get fucked GW give me my woodies

hoary ermine
crisp forge
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🙏

lapis tundra
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Not alternate eldar ratty, alternate spess muhreens

dusk hill
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perish

crisp forge
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It might also me AOS elves

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but they dont use gems as much iirc

lapis tundra
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Fair fair

crisp forge
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Yeee no harm done

lapis tundra
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Like yeah striking scorpions would be sick indeed but i dont think the cloth thingy fits them

crisp forge
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Yeah it doesnt

lapis tundra
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Like they usually have these things

crisp forge
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yeah the predator dreadlocks

lapis tundra
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Kindaish

arctic ridge
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Scorpions, my beloved

crisp forge
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that and you cant really tell what this is since plumes are almost on half the eldar as a decorational thing

lapis tundra
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These ones seem to be more solid

arctic ridge
sweet hull
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Honestly I don't understand gw's marketing scheme because you would think based on other things they release like that animation then they would release some scorpion stuff but they don't

lapis tundra
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Same here

sweet hull
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Idk just would seem logical to me

lapis tundra
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I think its just a small hollow rod

lapis tundra
crisp forge
arctic ridge
# lapis tundra Eh the old banshees had hair

Yeah, but that's flowing hair, dreads or braids would be much finer in detail. Detail that at the time of the making of those sculpts wouldn't have looked that good. Plus, I think they're ornaments first, maybe with or without something within them. The effect is still basically the same.

sweet hull
lapis tundra
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I imagine them more as something like this

arctic ridge
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Because its not as safe a bet as making another lieutenant

arctic ridge
crisp forge
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Yeah but the scorpions were outright inspired by Predators

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Jes Goodwin himself says it which is great

sweet hull
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I really like the design of scorpions

lapis tundra
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Same

crisp forge
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They are one the coolest aspect warriors

sweet hull
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their armor and color scheme looks really nice

arctic ridge
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Scorpions and Incubi

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My beloved

crisp forge
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The fact that they share their origin too is great

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what got me into 40k was the picture of an incubus lmao

sweet hull
lapis tundra
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They are my favourite aspect

crisp forge
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Like they're just cool idk

lapis tundra
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Hnngh

crisp forge
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something about the entire design is a lightning in a bottle

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really hope they're one of the minis that get updated with the leaks

sweet hull
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This design makes my brain produce the happy chemical

sweet hull
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Mandible helmet

arctic ridge
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I think Striking Scorpions do the natural and elegant shapes of regular Aeldari and the aggressive, sharp and somewhat angular lines of Drukhari in the same model pretty cleanly

lapis tundra
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Ngl if they redesign them i would def buy a squad, got no eldar so far

dusk hill
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putting THAT much weight on ur hair would prolly be v uncomfortable realistically

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unless they're super light

crisp forge
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its also why the incubi have the back-spines like the aspect warriors

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just a few design similiarities etc

sour hill
crisp forge
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though for them its to hang trophies so lol

lapis tundra
sweet hull
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Now thats a design im behind

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Incubi look so good

arctic ridge
lapis tundra
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Yee my assumption aswell, i also doubt they used literal hair for it, i imagine them using just like a leather string or something

sour hill
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I like to think of the "hair" as actually being bio-organic.

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It helps stabilize them during combat, moving with the flow and attacks.

arctic ridge
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Wraithbone shenanigans

sour hill
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Exactly. All of it is wraithbone.

lapis tundra
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Even the hair 😳

sour hill
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Yee!

lapis tundra
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Dont do this to me

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Guess the "looks cool -> aos, looks shit -> 40k" chart applies again

crisp forge
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jesus it does LMAO

lapis tundra
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Literal pain

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Thanks gw

sweet hull
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Yeah thats identical only difference being is that the gemstone is further up and the holder for it is a bit different

elfin yew
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Oh wait it could also be IDK

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Either way win

edgy cipher
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pogfish

lapis tundra
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pogfish

sour hill
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Welp. I'm depressed now.

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My Contemptor dreadnought got lost in shipping.

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So now I'm just getting a refund and have to hope I can find one somewhere else.

dusk hill
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eek

sour hill
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But maybe I get lucky and the thing still shows up.

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For free.

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But still lame.

vivid rune
sour hill
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All good. 😔 I've got my Leviathan I'm still very thankful and excited about.

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Just wanted to have one for my dad, brother and grandpa

vivid rune
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Ever put a dead relative in your dreadnoughts?

sour hill
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That's the idea. LMFAO

vivid rune
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Like really tho

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Like

sour hill
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Literally?

vivid rune
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You stuff their ashes in jt

sour hill
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Oh shit.

vivid rune
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I see people do that with their pets

lapis tundra
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I think the bitz i ordered from incanland got lost too, been almost a month now 😩

sour hill
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My dad's buried. Next to my grandpa actually. So sadly no ashes to pull from. :[

vivid rune
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There was a salamanders player who put his recently passed cat into a redemptor

sour hill
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I would 100% use the ashes to enhance a paint or something too

sour hill
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That would be incredible.

lapis tundra
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Kinda cool but also kinda messed up

vivid rune
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I will prob do the same for Frumpkin when he passes if he ever does

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Hes like...3 rn lol

sour hill
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Like the dude that built a guitar out of his uncles bones.

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And plays excellent music.

vivid rune
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Hell yea

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Puting people in a sealed box to rot for eternity is the most insult shit ive ever seen

sour hill
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Yeah. It definitely wasn't my choice. My dad and grandpa were hyper religious Orthodox.

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So did as they requested.

edgy cipher
vivid rune
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Underatandable and fair @sour hill

sour hill
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It's grim, but I think it's fitting to have the "dead" around you literally.

vivid rune
sour hill
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If my wife ever passes before me I want to get her ashes put into jewelry to wear. There's a place that makes diamonds out of their ashes and shit

vivid rune
sour hill
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🙏

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I'm thinking I'm going to request to have my ashes spread on Mt. Doom in NZ. In the fields at least.

lapis tundra
vivid rune
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I look forward to see my goddess before i die. To watch her wash my blood from her shield in the river. I will know peace when i am reaped into her arms and held to her bossom, to br carried off to the summerlands

sour hill
lapis tundra
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Idk i prefer a regular tombstone to a tree tbh

vivid rune
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Literally use their ashes to plant a tree

lapis tundra
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In the end its down to whoever died

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If they have time to choose

vivid rune
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Pretty much

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God i cant wait to become a mortician

sour hill
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I'd get a blue diamond of her ashes. It's her favourite colour.

vivid rune
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Thats sweet

sour hill
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💖

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I love her very very much.

vivid rune
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Well i hope so lol

sour hill
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LOL

median pumice
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11 million hours in photoshop... on my phone

crisp forge
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LMAO

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saving it lul

sour hill
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LMFAO

edgy cipher
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I love it great work !

proud gorge
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My plan when I die is to have an elaborate will that leads thousands of treasure hunters on a wild goose chase for my hidden fortune and when they find it after years of turmoil they’ll find a receipt for a single pixelated monkey jpeg

royal compass
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... did you just spoil One Piece's ending? :p

proud gorge
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stressedduck mayhaps

vivid rune
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@sour hill you still collect deathwatch?

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I got a captain artemis and a librarian in termie armor of you want them

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I can even paint them for you. I just dont think ill ever use em

sour hill
vivid rune
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Okie

sour hill
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Honestly, depending on how I build my diorama too I may have too many DW as it is on the field and need to hide some/sell some myself. LMFAO

sour hill
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Leviathan base. 🙏

lapis tundra
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Based

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(Pun not intended)

lavish perch
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I don't believe you

rose sluice
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anyone got a good source for like. ww1 era British troops that i can add guard bits to?

twilit cliff
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hm

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try victoriaminiatures maybe

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i like them bc the scale is very similar to astra militarum

rose sluice
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it's mainly the scale i want to be the same

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but with brodie helmets

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are they plastic?

twilit cliff
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nooo

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like most 3rd party bits i can find theyre resin

rose sluice
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riiiiiiiiiight

twilit cliff
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tbf plastic bits are pretty rare

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for third party stuff with similar scale i mean

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unless you get something like frostgrave but

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scale is off on those

rose sluice
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vicky doesn't have what i'm looking for sadly

twilit cliff
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madrobotminiatures maybe?

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they are very slow tho

lapis tundra
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Well yeah gw is "heroic scale" aka we choose how big we make this certain mini, in a few years they might be twice as big fuck you

twilit cliff
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well scale creep is an entirely different issue

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But for example say you get a perry and a gw mini

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gw is more cartoonish with bigger arms, hands, heads

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getting perry bits looks a bit out of place on gw minis

lapis tundra
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Tbf big heads are always a problem, the more advanced they are the less terrible those mistakes are

twilit cliff
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I dont mind them

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Its just their vibe

rose sluice
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nothing on madbot either

lapis tundra
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Bad lighting but scale is very different too

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Terrible lighting in fact

rose sluice
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weird angles

twilit cliff
rose sluice
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where you get the knights?

lapis tundra
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Man i love perrys "medieval" miniatures

lapis tundra
twilit cliff
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yh theyre perry

rose sluice
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

twilit cliff
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i like them but its a different vibe

rose sluice
lapis tundra
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Bought it 3 times so i get a free henry v mini, i got way too many now

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Would prolly have been cheaper to buy the henry v on ebay lol

rose sluice
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anvil has what i need

lapis tundra
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But now i can just pain all of em, stick em on their bases and have cool formations

twilit cliff
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yeah theres also anvil industires, kromlech etc

lapis tundra
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Square bases my beloved

rose sluice
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i basically want a russ and get a bunch of guys with brodies on it

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but i'm also give them a monster hunter vibe

twilit cliff
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what happens is you google

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brody helmet miniatures

rose sluice
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i mean

twilit cliff
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those are neat

lapis tundra
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Btw, bfg mini scale comparison in case anybody wants to know

rose sluice
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scale creep smh

urban harbor
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arent the bigger ships in 40k like a few miles long?

lapis tundra
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This one is supposed to be ≈3km long, the larger ones usually have no official lengths but are often 7-10km long, depending on author. And then there are the fucking giantic ones with not even a mention of lenght. Just stuff like "as big as a moon" ah yes because all moons have the same size

urban harbor
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i see

lapis tundra
urban harbor
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lol

dusk hill
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ships are several km long and they engage eachother over hundreds of thousands of km

lapis tundra
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There are still issues but its pretty neat overall

dusk hill
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cus things move so fast in space, and are capable of carrying such ridiculous ordinances, that it's more of a maths game of figuring out where will the enemies next volley be relative to where we are in x minutes

dusk hill
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u know, for 40k combat writing™️

lapis tundra
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Yee thats fair

dusk hill
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my fav is prolly the expanse, but that's just cus rn most of my family is aggressively stanning that show and asking why it's not more popular than it is

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hard sci fi spaceships my beloved

lapis tundra
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I think i got a few rule pdfs for the old bfg somewhere on one of my drives

void orchid
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I've really enjoyed watching the expanse, I should probably get around to reading the books

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new season right around the corner iirc

dusk hill
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yee! in less than a month i think

lapis tundra
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Also another argument for 40k space combat

dusk hill
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my brother recommended it me and i binged it a few weeks ago, it's such an amazing show and it's lowkey just shocking it's made it to six seasons

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considering sci fi is so high budget and so niche that it usually burns out real quick

twilit cliff
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i always thought that was weird in star trek

void orchid
twilit cliff
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“The romulan vessel is 1500km away sir” “shoot the phasers”

dusk hill
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but in this case literally everything is great. long lasting, high budget, amazing writing, amazing visuals

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just really good sci fi in general

void orchid
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Agreed

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The only thing I didn't love has been the ||uwu gotta save my son|| plot, but even that has been done pretty well, I'm just not a huge fan of that kinda story in general

dusk hill
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idk i didn't mind that yeah, tho mainly just cus the acting and other involved characters like marco were v engaging. Kinda just a vehicle to get into the whole abusive narcissistic side of marco

lapis tundra
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Found the bfg rule pdfs, if anybody wants em, just dm me

dusk hill
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particularly liked the segment after naomi spacewalks, how she's literally bruised all over and stuff. the makeup team and the actress did a really good job

void orchid
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Yeah

void orchid
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I'm just holding a grudge for ashford

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Lol

dusk hill
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i absolutely HATED him in S1 but now he's my fav. my family prefers drummer tho, which is a respectable choice

void orchid
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Drummer is based as fuck

median pumice
void orchid
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Drummer, ashford, bobbie, easily my top 3 fav characters from the show

median pumice
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Im getting a lot of use out of that cowboy bebop gif and im living for it

dusk hill
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how beneath all the charisma he's a callous PoS

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it's amazing acting and it makes me hate the character so much

void orchid
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Yeah for sure, it's great characterization

dusk hill
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ashford is also amazing yes

median pumice
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The expanse is one of those shows that just... does a lot of things so well.

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The space combat. Characterization. Space politics. Even ||aliens||

hoary ermine
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Talking of startrek, they moved discovery off of netlfix before i could watch the last 3 episodes

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Angy

dusk hill
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Honestly the whole belter sphere is def the strongest part of the show, largely cus it's a v interesting and prolly not so distant concept. Like, if humans develop sufficiently differently in low or zero g that they can't step foot on a planet anymore, they're basically a speciated (if not genetically then at least by circumstance) exile race stuck in space

void orchid
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Yeah

dusk hill
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with no access to food or water besides asteroid ice, making them p much dependent on inners to survive, meaning they're v easily just a slave race

void orchid
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The social ramifications of not being physically able to go planetside is pretty neat in general

dusk hill
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yee! It's a humanitarian shitshow caused by technological advancement with implications on culture, politics etc

void orchid
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And talking about exporting soil is not something I even considered before, but is a neat thing to think about

dusk hill
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nods

void orchid
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Dirt my beloved

dusk hill
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exporting soil, complex biologicals, etc. All extremely valuable when only earth and other biological spheres can produce them

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The alien stuff is also done v well, but i imagine it would've been a lil novel a few decades ago. It's v much just like, ancient constructor race that disappears to some kind of ~external alien threat~ billions of years ago vibes

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it's a v common trope

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but the actual depiction of alien life is at least refreshing, as like. actually alien and all

void orchid
#

Yeah, the overall setup is not as fresh but the flavor of how that whole thing works is 👌

dusk hill
#

nods

void orchid
#

When that station gets taken over it is legit creepy as fuck, and when you see it again at the climax it's like hooooly fuck

dusk hill
#

oh yeah eros was my absolute fav protomolecule bit. After that the mystique is a lil shattered, since you kinda know what it is and it's v mundane, but i was actually scared of the notion of even climbing on top of eros in season 2

#

it's like clambering on the rooftops of chernobyl, had those ground zero vibes except you didn't even know what was inside

void orchid
#

Yes that comparison captures the feel of it really well

lapis tundra
#

Also some neat stuff from the bfg rulebook

void orchid
#

Like just something otherworldly that has run amok and just getting close to it is enough to get wrecked

dusk hill
#

yee

#

the sound design for the voices was also excellent at communicating that

#

From S2E4 "Godspeed"

The entire area has been quarantined - nobody aside from Miller and the crew of the Rocinante are anywhere near Eros. The alien protomolecule has decimated everything inside the station, leaving everyone dead and the walls coated in alien goo. But as the massive ship Nauvoo approaches to knock the infected Eros into the sun...

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the scream is chilling

void orchid
#

Yes

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We were watching it late at night, and I don't do horror shows/movies at all cuz I'm a big baby about scary stuff

#

My wife was like are you okay

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And I'm like no but we can't stop watching now lmao

dusk hill
#

bless

void orchid
#

And also when theyre hunting the hybrid

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And it's revealed that the thing is on their ship

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Which I was already tensely suspecting

lapis tundra
#

God i really need to take the time to read through all of the bfg rules at some point

void orchid
crisp forge
#

Shame in-universe nobody remembers space is 3D

void orchid
#

Shush

lapis tundra
crisp forge
#

owned™️

solar garden
#

The Expanse is one of my favorite SciFi series

lapis tundra
crisp forge
#

They pretty much mostly dont

median pumice
#

I always think of like that scene where theyre chasing the millenium falcon and it just dips on them

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Like... a single star destroyer has like 150 something odd fighters. Each. And theyre out there chasing it with a single squadron?

crisp forge
#

Plot Moment™️

lapis tundra
crisp forge
#

They don't tho 😠

#

BECAUSE SOME WRITERS DONT KNOW HOW SPACE WORKS

lapis tundra
#

Yes they do 😡

lapis tundra
crisp forge
median pumice
#

Im just gonna say if you want beautiful sci fi ship battles with a sense of scale and plot importance and continuity.... you got the expanse

void orchid
crisp forge
#

3D go anywhere

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brrrr

void orchid
#

3D? More like 3Dumb

obtuse sinew
#

please, everyone knows there are only two dimensions

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forward and up

void orchid
#

And only two locations: on your tail, and wheredtheygo

lapis tundra
median pumice
#

Dont forget spinning thats a good trick

obtuse sinew
#

that's just forward with flavor

dusky mango
void orchid
#

Spinning is just forward and up at the same time

lapis tundra
dusky mango
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hecc

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thank you for letting me know

lapis tundra
#

I got mine off ebay at least

#

(Ignore the nazi header idk man)

sour hill
#

Oh Romania.

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😔

lapis tundra
#

Yee 💀

dusk hill
#

there are whole videos going over them frame by frame for how well done they are

onyx void
#

Has anyone suscribed to Warhammer+?

dusk hill
#

@crisp forge did at some point i think

onyx void
#

@crisp forge any opinion ? I'm not interested in the minis, more in the series, lore, comics and books

crisp forge
#

So id say simply put?

#

Incredibly lackluster and at best wait a year before subbing

#

the painting tutorials are the same as you can find anywhere for free, white dwarf isnt worth it since they're going through them slowly and they're all recent ones atm, and uh

#

The animations are just meh

#

You can pirate them from anywhere else and its nothing spectacular atm

onyx void
#

Shame

crisp forge
#

Yeaaaah

#

GW is really new at this and it shows

onyx void
#

I would prefer they made a deal with Netflix or Amazon for the animation

crisp forge
#

Thats GW's biggest achilles heel

#

they dont bow down to anyone

proper canopy
#

I thought it was primaris models

onyx void
crisp forge
#

Yeaaaah its really bad

#

people were hyping up WH+ as much as GW and now it feels like it dropped off the face of the earth lmao

onyx void
#

If you like minis, I think that gift was worth the money

crisp forge
#

Pretty much

onyx void
#

They could have gave away special cosmetic on Vermintide 2 with the subscription

#

Twitch style

crisp forge
#

Bold of you to assume GW knows anything outside of tabletop minis exists

onyx void
#

It's such a fucking weird company

bold copper
#

Shame because I really like angels of death

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But they just don't have enough to justify me actually paying for it

sage matrix
#

how much is a year subscription?

#

like 60 bucks?

bold copper
#

yeah like $60

sage matrix
#

I mean considering that you pay 45 bucks for a HQ model, similar to the ones provided in the subscription. along with content like shows and fairly top tier tutorials for a year I think its pretty worth it

elfin yew
#

Yeah but it's a model you don't have much choice in

sage matrix
#

I would say its one of the few cheaper purchases GW has atm

#

true

elfin yew
#

They provide options, better hope you play the army for either

sage matrix
#

I agree that their should be more options

elfin yew
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Esp when, in this case, the ork one just fucking sucks

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So it's really just one

#

It's not a bad looking model by any means, but It's legit just a warboss

sage matrix
#

Ehh im biased as a painter to just have limited edition collectors model

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but thats me

bold copper
#

the only thing i really have much interest in is the angels of death animated show at the moment. but i can watch that through other sources

elfin yew
#

They'll be recasted in like, moments

sage matrix
#

Yeah obviously

bold copper
#

i stand by that i think the show is actually pretty good

sage matrix
#

100%

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I think its a fair asking price

#

but only if you like painting, and the shows they release

#

I mean the tutorials are awesome

#

and ofc their are other avenues to explore like youtube

bold copper
#

i watch angels of death through other places, so i don't pay for it. i might when there's more things that really matter to me personally, but not right now

sage matrix
#

yeah and thats fair

bold copper
#

but i do like angels of death. a small squad of blood angels vs a genstealer cult is a cool story idea

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and they show the genestealer cults can tear a space marine apart pretty easily

sage matrix
#

if the model were to be valued at a price it would be $45 since the newer hq models seem to be around that, so in reality you are paying $15 for access to the shows, White Dwarf Catalogues, and the painting tutorials

#

plus a single issue of white dwarf is around $10 or so

#

so your paying $55 for both a model and access to White Dwarf magazines and lastly $5 dollar subscription to a warhammer streaming service

bold copper
#

my biggest issue is that i think it's a huge missed opportunity to not put the old edition rules in the archive for people who may want to check out older editions

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even if it were just for the purpose of showing how the game evolved

sage matrix
#

idk, i feel like if someone wanted to do that they could find pdfs online 🤷

bold copper
#

oh very easily for sure

sage matrix
#

but i get what you mean

bold copper
#

but having official backing would be a smart move on GWs part

sage matrix
#

it would interest more people to join in the hobby

#

seeing it throughout the years

#

but in my personal opinion $60 dollar subscription for all of that and a promised model that looks cool to paint for a show piece and I think its worth it

#

I mean compared to a $250 pay wall for a commemorative model

#

but peeps be selling em on ebay for lik $60 anyway

bold copper
#

that was such a scam for that model

#

just let people buy the model outright

sage matrix
#

I mean in all fairness I ended up getting the model x2 since I bought the Black Templar and Ork sets in the past month

#

that and paints

bold copper
#

GW is such a frustrating company. they sometimes make really good decisions and then piss it all away by being absolute dumbasses

#

gotta love corporate

crisp forge
#

^

#

GW are incredibly 50/50 as a company

bold copper
#

they both love and yet hate money at the same time

crisp forge
#

Nah its less they hate money

#

more that they got no idea most of the time how their fanbase works lmao

#

or just.. common business practices

#

Especially since their strategy usually is "throw marine minis at the problem"

bold copper
#

ironic that they don't know their own audience yet they still act like they are somehow responsible for the community being as popular as it is

crisp forge
#

LOL

#

THIS

#

THANK YOU

hoary ermine
#

if they didnt have community creators

bold copper
#

here's a little secret GW: the fans are responsible for why it's so popular, not you

hoary ermine
#

the goddamn hobby wouldve sank like the tea in the harbor

bold copper
crisp forge
#

Yeah this

#

I love Marines too but I hate them from the miniature perspective

#

vomits blue

bold copper
#

i say this as an ultramarines player: let the imperial fists be the poster boys for a bit

sour hill
bold copper
#

ultramarines can be cool. i love the graham mcneill books about uriel ventris.

crisp forge
#

The sad part is the only reasons Ultras are posterboys is because blue is an eye catching color

#

thats it lmao

bold copper
#

look i love the color scheme ok. don't crucify me

#

oh yeah also this

crisp forge
#

AAA-

bold copper
#

this stupid thing brings me joy

urban harbor
#

mario cart 40k version

bold copper
#

but in all seriousness i do love the ultramarines when you get someone like graham mcneill writing them.

#

he understands that they are good at everything but not great at anything and should use the codex as guidelines but still use their own judgement as warriors. rather than someone like matt ward who says they use it as a holy book and also says they are the best marines ever

compact umbra
#

Hey how big is a grey knight head?

#

Compared to a terminator head-

urban harbor
#

from what i have seen the wardian helmet is about half the size of a terminator helmet

#

unless you are talking about the older terminator armors when they are about the same size

median pumice
quaint halo
#

So my Cursed City game had a played get eaten by the gravetide then spit back out 2 turns later because we rolled the revive a player end of turn

vivid rune
#

@elfin yew

#

Cult icon replenishes D3 losses

quaint halo
#

Holy shit

edgy cipher
#

Oh

#

Well they are going to be less expensive to collect now

#

Also that S4 is going to help their melee even further

dusk hill
#

fear

edgy cipher
#

Also that

dusk hill
#

huh the ap-1 for pulse rifles is new, plus 6" more range

#

i think, haven't played proper 40k in ages

#

i thiink pulse carbines also had a lil less range originally?

edgy cipher
#

Yes they increased the range of the weapons

dusk hill
#

im unsure if that'll help much

edgy cipher
#

It does

#

Allows them to shoot while remaining outside of charge range for a lot more units

dusk hill
#

the way i've had it described tau have issues rn with holding objectives and just like. in general if there isn't a wide open ass area to gunline in ur kinda at a disadvantage vibes

#

! oh yeah that's a fair point

#

How does charge range work? Wasn't it "12 or smthn

edgy cipher
#

I assume kroots will be getting a big buff defense wise and are going to be the main obejective hodlers

#

You can declare charge with anything that is within 12" of you yes

#

Most units have a 6" movement, most melee units gets atleast a reroll to charge and / ora +2 to charge aswell

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And some can even advance + charge

#

And extra 6" safe range will help

dusk hill
#

yee that makes sense

#

also means the pulse rifle rapid fire range is higher, which is v pog

edgy cipher
#

^

dusk hill
#

gonna have to watch the inevitable auspex tactics video on how the math of it works for the damage output of rifles fgsouh

edgy cipher
#

Considering Taus have the best baseline weapon for how much they cost yeah

dusk hill
#

yee this is def cementing pulse rifles as sorta the goat of basic troop guns

#

so this is coming with the new codex right? Where's the info posted?

edgy cipher
#

Boom

#

Also Custodes buffs but that's to be expected

#

Instead of the swingy 1d3 damage on all their melee its now D2

#

Might help them in some matchups, might screw them in others

#

also all custodes getting a leadership of 11

#

Guardian spears also being S7 in melee now

#

So custodes guards can go hunt vehicles in melee now

edgy cipher
# vivid rune Cult icon replenishes D3 losses

"This calls upon reinforcements lurking in the shadows to restore them to fighting strength – in the case of Acolyte Hybrids, that’s D3 destroyed models from the unit."

I think it also implies that other units like neophytes that are not as strong might get a D6

hasty sorrel
#

looking forward to the IG update one day

edgy cipher
# dusk hill gonna have to watch the inevitable auspex tactics video on how the math of it wo...

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dusk hill
#

thank

elfin yew
#

FUVK YES

#

T4

#

Average lasgun trying to injure acolytes now

lapis tundra
#

Buff insect ppl

elfin yew
#

Also the cult reinforcements is so cool

#

That used to be a 1cp stratagem

#

Calling it now

#

Multiple smaller units could be pretty slappy to take advantage of the icons

#

Esp with t4

edgy cipher
#

Wouldn't bigger units be better because they have a higher chance to survive ?

vivid rune
#

You can cover more ground with multiple and depending om how well that replenish is theyd be tanky as fuck

edgy cipher
#

Well its 1d3 plus its easier to buff bigger units in general

dusk hill
#

the AP pulse rifle does make me v happy

edgy cipher
#

Also if you wanna go min maxing, having units coming back is also more mobility

#

Since you can make em pop in front of your unit , giving you more reach

vivid rune
#

I see

edgy cipher
#

I know a necron player that does that, I know its legal but its kind of annoying

lapis tundra
#

Also a fun rule they had back then was when you want to shoot at something you are like "ok i shoot now with this unit at this unit" then you measure is they are within range and if they arent the attacks miss

dusk hill
#

i lowkey dont know why they didn't give the pulse carbine ap-1 tho

#

like cmon

#

they're meant to be basically the same just one long range one mid range

edgy cipher
#

Its weird yeah

dusk hill
#

esp cus the carbine is already kinda just worse than the rifle

#

guess they dont wanna make base pathfinders too strong idk

edgy cipher
#

Guess they wouldn't risk making the Pathfinders too strong because they are re-releasing the Pathfinder hero that will likely have a big aura for them

#

Plus we don't know the new sept bonuses as of yet

elfin yew
#

Plus multiple procs across board

#

Enemy may over commit to small eized unit

#

Or undercommit and Icon

edgy cipher
#

Oh yeah more tokens for the tomfoolery

elfin yew
#

Yee

#

Also bcuz

#

Smaller units deepstrike easier

edgy cipher
#

i'm pretty sure it "never" stopped the jackals from popping with their C4 lmao

#

It is irony

#

I know bikes have bigger bases

elfin yew
#

Yee tho u have to 3" Deep strike for that anyways

#

With lying in wait

#

Since bobombs only have 6" range

#

If neophytes get like

#

A d3+3 banner

#

Then heavy weapons spam will be even stronger with heavy neophyte lists

#

Assloads of mining lasers

#

And a jackal alphus

#

For 3+ heavy weapon neophytes

#

ESPECIALLY WITH THAT CROSSFIRE RULE TEASES

#

WEW

#

Im very excited to see how our characters change

#

I hope Keler's revolvers to to S5 and/or they make Oppressor's Bane S6

#

Also I hope knife sanctus gets gud

#

Another hope: A perfect ambush's move choice just goes to "Make a move of 6" rather than of d6

#

Perfect Ambush should be usable by both shooting and charging with the same efficiency

#

Not random chance for charging

dusk hill
#

Nobody uses carbines outside of pathfinders anyways

elfin yew
#

Also WEW

#

That pulse rifle is THICC

dusk hill
#

YEAH

elfin yew
#

Marines weeping

dusk hill
#

I swear it's been S5 ap0 30" for so long

elfin yew
#

As they get fucking murkee

dusk hill
#

It'll be weird it being different

elfin yew
#

36" rapid fire

#

Very thicx

dusk hill
#

Is nice to finally have like. Smthn closer to the efficacy of baseline skitarii at range

#

Given tau are meant to be the pure ranged faction

elfin yew
#

I cant wait to see the new faction abils

#

Rusted Claw lets gooo

#

Give me assault bombs

#

They already shift most weapons to assault on adv

#

All I need now is the Gets flared by ridgerunners, rushes 20 inches, drops the fattest democharge load imaginable

#

Shiny and chrome, riding eternal

#

Also

#

INB4 tau codex somehow releases in january still, before cults/sustodes

dusk hill
#

im just still looking forward to darkstrider

#

that kit could have so much kitbash potential for tau leader characters in general

#

the smol drones ❤️

elfin yew
#

Holy fuck I just bought 20 acolytes

#

Well that completes my cult army

#

RHEBDH

#

Fortunately they were like 60% of retail price

#

30 acolytes seems like a p healthy count

#

Esp with their new changes

#

I'll probs be able to be good on troops with just 3 units of 10

sour hill
#

Yeah. I want to see Darkstrider

#

I'm so happy the other factions are getting love.

elfin yew
#

Yess

#

I also got some Purestrains who im excited for

edgy cipher
#

They made the Tau gunlines very frigtening

#

I want to see what they do with kroots

elfin yew
#

I want purestrain/aberrant biobuilds to be good

edgy cipher
#

They'd be a good target for a cheap melee guy to grab a point and hold

hoary ermine
#

I might stop making armies for 40k tbh

#

Gonna focus on making dioramas uwu

sour hill
#

Working on my Leviathan now

vivid rune
#

@sour hill hell yea

#

I want to make that one named DW dreadnought. The lammentor one that thinks the lammentors are all dead

rose sluice
#

That chad

#

I’d love to do lamenters

#

Or find a good transfer for them lol

sour hill
#

Lamenters are my second favourite SM group.

#

The curse of tragedy is just so sick.

#

Working with Resin models is a HUGE pain in the ass though.

#

Jesus. Clipping and cleaning this dude took an hour.

rose sluice
#

That’s what is holding me back rn

#

I need super glue aswell

sour hill
#

Yeah. I have a giant container of gorilla glue.

#

But.

#

It takes forever to dry too. And I don't have quick binder.

#

😔

rose sluice
#

I need to get all the nurgle bits i’ve got and decide what i’m adding and what i’m not

vivid rune
#

@sour hill this lad

sour hill
#

@vivid rune I love him. That's so awesome!

#

And I'll be able to read about him because I have the Deathwatch Omnibus.

#

😎

vivid rune
#

Based

median pumice
#

Aww yeah thos came in the mail today

edgy cipher
#

Yooooooooo

#

If you need any help you can ask @hasty sorrel and myself

hasty sorrel
#

👋

median pumice
#

I am excited to delve into it. I inow its different from like... the FFG one but its interesting clsses and progressions

green cave
#

Oh boy, cannot wait for more OW and W&G discussions

edgy cipher
#

Why not right now

#

I almost got charged by my own teammate

median pumice
#

How did that happen?

hasty sorrel
#

he was sneaking around behind enemy lines

#

i have LoS turned on

#

party didn't know he was there

edgy cipher
#

I'm just a smoll ratboy

green cave
#

Lol, perfect ratling behaviour right there, doing stuff without telling teammates

#

And then making a fuss because they nearly got your head

edgy cipher
#

Nah they knew my location

green cave
#

Who i believe?

median pumice
#

This is beautiful

edgy cipher
#

Very orky

haughty mantle
#

Got mine a few weeks ago. desperate to start a game of W&G but trying to find a group for reg sessions is tough.

median pumice
#

I feel that

hasty sorrel
#

no one died in session

#

had to pause half way into a fight tho

#

stealth suits showed up

hoary ermine
#

Your fbi agent comes to your house?

#

Did he bring snacks for the run or?

tiny cairn
#

Does wrath and glory have space combat rules?

quaint star
#

not yet I don't think

hasty sorrel
#

not yet

#

they just added space hulk generation rules

arctic ridge
proper canopy
#

likely easy to figure out some.

#

Unless you're talking spaceship vs spaceship combat.

hasty sorrel
#

ye thats what they mean

#

Rogue trader had an indepth ship combat and customisation system W&G hasn't replicated yet

#

it infact has no vehicles at all, so we have nothing to base it on

#

: )

proper canopy
#

Could always go, battlefleet gothic for that however.

hasty sorrel
#

thats a lot more complex than W&G is aiming to be

proper canopy
#

Ah, are Tau battlesuits in it?

hasty sorrel
#

Nope

#

The only stated vehicle is an imperial knight, and it uses a standard character stat block

proper canopy
#

What's the most 'robust' living thing you can fight?

hasty sorrel
#

and not even a particularly good one

#

a T2 Ogryn can out tank it, despite it being a T4 master unit

proper canopy
#

That's rather odd.

hasty sorrel
#

yeah

#

W&G is a game of odd decisions

proper canopy
#

I kind of preffered 8th where things were flat out immune to small arms fire due to toughness

hasty sorrel
#

This is for wrath and glory, a TTRPG instead of the standard tabletop

proper canopy
#

I'm familiar with rogue trader, just not how Wrath and glory is done, never saw the rules.

hasty sorrel
#

its a semi interesting D6 system but like

#

they scuffed the combat

proper canopy
#

It seemed more, non combat roleplay, if that makes sense, going off of successes vs failures, and just using more dice for successes

#

I liked the % system of rogue trader, more than a D6/10/20 system

hasty sorrel
#

D6 with successes is fine, it can do great combat like shadowrun

#

its just very heavily weighted in the players favour

#

basically its an RPG where the players play as heroes, which isn't what i want from 40k

#

Or more, they can be heroes in the older RPGs but they need to work for it

proper canopy
#

Ah, Dark Heresy is what I was thinking of, not Rogue Trader

#

That, was a fun book to go through

hasty sorrel
#

All the old ones run on the same system dw

#

i'm using tau from deathwatch in my current only war campaign

green cave
#

I hope that for the future of W&G they return to OW system, it was simply better... I mean, cubicle returned to such system with WHF TTRPG soooo

hasty sorrel
#

WHF 4e is worse than W&G imo

#

the advantage system in it is fuckin busted

proper canopy
#

I was tempted to use the tyranids in some games, but they seemed... Very -very- killy and would rip through an entire party pretty quickly, lol.

hasty sorrel
#

they are very killy, but i think i've got it figured out for w/e i do run em

proper canopy
#

"You pissed me off, go into these narrow, Genestealer infested tunnels..."

hasty sorrel
#

cause as long as the players know up front its horde campaign they can take autoguns n stuff

#

get them fire rates pumpin

proper canopy
#

Honestly, I also liked the death charts they had for all the weapon types.

hasty sorrel
#

The current campaign vs tau they are playing droptroop snipers

proper canopy
#

And how all the weapons had rules, like, Ork Choppa's and shoota's

hasty sorrel
#

the weapon qualities make the system

proper canopy
#

And the armor system how, it reduced the incoming damage if it hit a spot, Flack armor actually seemed useful as it was, 2/3 base I think, but doubled vs explosive weapons

hasty sorrel
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only war has the best fire rate method of any rpg ive played

proper canopy
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Haven't seen that system/book myself.

hasty sorrel
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its the same as Dark heresy

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all of the old 40k rpgs run on the same rules

proper canopy
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The % system then. I don't know how the fire rate works in Only war then. I just remember that, when you do full auto, and roll a hit it's spread across whoevers in the fire arc

hasty sorrel
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So you have

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single shot has + 10 to hit

Semi auto is +0 and you get an additional hit every odd success

Full auto is at a -10 with a hit per success

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so full auto is deadly af, but also the least accurate

proper canopy
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isn't the aim action +20 to hit?

plush swift
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Bruh a friend want to do a strange tech-heresy

lapis tundra
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Interesting

plush swift
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Yup

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Really hard in fact

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But i really want to see the final form of this

lapis tundra
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Same

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What parts are they planning on using?

plush swift
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He say, the head of WK will go on IK, one leg too and the Heavy Bolter will be switch with the Psycannon Eldar and some other part

hasty sorrel
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wait is that the special variant wraithknight from FW hes gonna use?

plush swift
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Yeah

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He want the Sword

hasty sorrel
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fucking hell

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buy the standard one if u wanna kitbash painBR

plush swift
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XD

hasty sorrel
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the FW one is expensive and only worth it for the main body

proper canopy
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Or... Bitz order the sword, lol.

plush swift
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In fact Cerastus is better than IK GW for this one imo

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He already kitbash an Tau Gundam and an Arminger

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Mmmh

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This one

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Good luck at him

twilit cliff
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Sick

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i want to kitbash a battlesuit like a zaku but

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i actually doubt there much i want to change about them lol

dusk hill
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ghostkeel is juicy

edgy cipher
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Also fucker @hasty sorrel put fusion blades on stealth suits

hasty sorrel
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: )

edgy cipher
plush swift
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My Aeldari eyes burn

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He send that "proto type" of is Kits bash

lapis tundra
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Neat

plush swift
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I really want to the the final produit in fact

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pure lore, its just impossible, but idc, I WANT TO SEE THAT CHAD IK !

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He make a little lore of this one

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An IK and a WK who fight in same side vs Slaanesh deamon for save Eldar souls, the IK suicide himself and the WK is don't know how he died and some rangers Eldar have seen a Knight who have Imperium and Eldar symbols and armor

tiny cairn
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I think that's one thing that will keep me playing rogue trader over anything else, playing as ship captains is too fun

hasty sorrel
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i just use the ship rules in Dark heresy n stuff

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they work just as well

rose sluice
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Dirt

lapis tundra
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Lower legs smaller pleas

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And head bigger

rose sluice
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No

twilit cliff
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lower legs bigger pls

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heads smaller

lapis tundra
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😩

lapis tundra
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If we ignore the awful proportions of the marines that stuff looks pretty solid

sour hill
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Is this a new game or something?

lapis tundra
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Oh nah

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Warhammer+ animation

sour hill
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Hmm

lapis tundra
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Like it def looks cool but.. those proportions hurt

sour hill
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The legs don't look right.

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The heads are fine I guess.

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But the proportions do seem off.

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It looks more like someone made them to do like a Fortnite dance animation or something with those proportions.

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I can just see those guys in some video like this.

sour hill
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LMFAO

twilit cliff
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tbf im not bothered by their proportions too much but they are a bit memeable

edgy cipher
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Magnificent

compact umbra
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Im kinda bummed out There is zero Slaanesh terrain

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Actually there is 1 but

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It fucking sucks

elfin yew
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Welcome to the game, if ur not imperial, ur chances of getting themed terrain are slim

dusk hill
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at least imperial terrain is generally pretty versatile

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idm it, lowkey i dont like much tau terrain anyways sjdh

lapis tundra
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So we usually just get like 1 terrainpiece with rules for every faction and other than that just imperial ruins and shit

elfin yew
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Ye p much

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There arent rlly non-imperial terrain sets iirc

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Except orkz