40k-minis-and-armies

[urban drum]

could use a bit more saturation in color, in that lighting it looks a bit more like pyrite

[visual turret]

Shoutout the Chinese J-20 fighter jet for being my attempted palette

[wary sonnet]

Pyrite?

[visual turret]

fools' gold

it looks like gold but it's not

[rare hornet]

Fair play, that looks so much better than what I was suggesting

[rare hornet]

Oh I just spotted something, you’ve accidentally got a little bit of red on the bottom left of the backpack, you can see it in picture 2

[visual turret]

Good spot!

[rare hornet]

No worries

[floral wind]

Can anyone help identify what this model is?

[rare hornet]

That is an original obliterator model

[floral wind]

Many thanks! I got given thus huge warhammer lot today and it has some amazing finds. All of it in varying quality tho lol

For awful reference this was it

[rare hornet]

Oooo, a lot of goodies

[floral wind]

Indeed including my favourite

Metal ogryn

[upbeat carbon]

Nice

[short pawn]

babe we fucking on the warhammer lot bed tonight

Do I see an old cadian heavy weapons squad?

[rare hornet]

Unfathomably loud cracking of plastic

[floral wind]

3 to be exact

[floral wind]

[white tangle]

Anyone got any recommendations for airbrush primers?

[acoustic wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJTupimS3Xg

[sick ledge]

golden highflow

titanium white specifically.
I've tried most "primer" brands and they all have the same issue

they dry too fast and clog the airbrush

[lapis epoch]

Hello, can I put an eBay listing and ask if it’s authentic minifig wise, I’m new to the building / painting side and need some help

[white tangle]

I know its not a primer but do you know of Molotow? Ive seen many a people say its really good and basically acts like a primer. Any opinions?

[white tangle]

And yeah, go for it.

[lapis epoch]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265948219503?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=0yOE0PdVRmu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pckb1oc6sws&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

picture 11

thanks, on my first ever set I managed to stick the wrong legs to the wrong skitarii

[white tangle]

From my uninformed view, it looks legit. The seller also stated its from GW. So if its not, you can ask ebay for compensation.

[visual turret]

In so jealous that he got sent one of the statues

[lapis epoch]

Cheers, I’ll post my skitarii in here to be judged when they do become finished, need some tips for my painting when I’ve finished it

[sick ledge]

the "primers" people use arent primers at all either. And molotow is low quality swill

[white tangle]

Would you still recommend them if i was to go for other colours or is it their titanium white in particular?

[sick ledge]

I'd avoid the black because its a bit glossy.
Molotow works but its a nightmare to get and had zero durability

[white tangle]

So, so far i have only primed with GW spray cans. Would Highflow feel similar to that in the sense of durability? Youve scared me off Molotow now by saying it has zero durability.

[rich pond]

Elric Debomyran, Archsybarite of my Hand of the Blooded Fangs

[sick ledge]

I need to retest gw sprays but probably not since those are meant for outdoor things

Gw sprays are made by an industrial company and the paint they use is mostly for painting furniture

[rare hornet]

I can vouch for the taste

They are fucking delicious

[midnight locust]

I have been converted by bold titanium white; absolute incredible

[sudden crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-fury-road-witness-gif-24567135

[white tangle]

One last question. Because ive been practicing painting specific parts on minis, ive been stripping a lot. And because i only have spray cans, i didnt want to waist primer. While obviously not advised, ive been using GW paints to quickly put a base coat straight onto the plastic with my airbrush. The paint can easily be rubbed off with small amounts of contact. Is this how Highflow would act or would it be a lot more durable than that?

Also just making sure, this is the product you speak of?

[wary sonnet]

Not shiny enough.

[crisp sable]

WIP, More grotesques

[hollow goblet]

Idk what Corpse's take will be but in my experience if you don't take the time to actually varnish it in: most paint will be relatively easy to remove from plastic minis

[white tangle]

Yeah, the more i look into it the more i see people say that the durability of primers is a non issue. But i feel like ill miss the feeling of knowing that i basically cannot rub off GWs primer so i can just not worry about mishandling the mini.

[sick ledge]

I recently tested 20 bottles of it. It scored a 1.5/100 rating as it had tons of problems. EVerything from cracking, chalkiness, yellowing, etc. I dont get why you guys put up with such low quality paint and never scrutinize the company to make better products

[sick ledge]

its more durable than that

[sick ledge]

unless its an artist varnish which then it will rub off just as easily as the paaint

[visual turret]

hey can I get a random space marine chapter

[brisk vapor]

Angels Encarmine

[white tangle]

Ultramaines 🙂

[visual turret]

not ultras

[white tangle]

lol

[visual turret]

oooh a blood angels off-shoot?

[brisk vapor]

well a successor chapter, yes

[rare hornet]

Warhounds :3

[short pawn]

Because you're approaching the subject with knowledge and not experience. Somebody who has a decent experience with a certain thing and nothing else cannot compare it to something. You saying its bad won't instantly have someone put down everything

I can say the same thing about a product that you own that I might be more knowledgeable in and you'd have no idea

[visual turret]

interesting... maybe

idk i want something new and refreshing, a more interesting scheme to do a one-off little guy

[short pawn]

Stormlords

[visual turret]

warhounds just look like pre-chaos WE's

oooooh

now that's a shout

a split scheme

I like that

[rare hornet]

They are, they’re also my chapter >:3

[visual turret]

my friend suggested the retributors 😭

that's GREY

I paint CARCS I am tired of grey for the moment

[rare hornet]

You looking for a strictly loyalist chapter?

[visual turret]

yeah I got one of those free easy-build guys and I was looking for an interesting scheme to do them up in

[rare hornet]

Hmm

Nova marines?

[visual turret]

oh they're the FOUR-WAY split marines

hmm

another strong contender

Maybe I take the painter's challenge and do a Lamenter

[rare hornet]

The rite of passage

[brisk vapor]

Howling Griffons are the best fourway split chapter

[visual turret]

yellow and red?

[brisk vapor]

yess

[visual turret]

Stormlords seems to be the best pick rn tbh

[brisk vapor]

they're featured in art pretty often, they're one of the old ass chapters from like Rogue Trader or 2nd edition days

[sick ledge]

when a product gets that low of a score it means that it wouldnt pass regulatory health standards.

I get kind of bitchy in the mornings though and proacryl is a very big sore spot as I am berated a lot about how its the greatest paint ever and nothing else compares then the other side I have youtuber who want to collab with me begging me to release a review on proacryl because they want someone to knock it down a peg because if they dare say anything bad about it their comment sections get filled up with vitriol because a cult as formed around monument hobby products when their products are ok at best or they are the brush goop at worse.

The brush goop is a standard cheap olive oil soap you can make at home in a few minutes. And why is this bad? Because oil particles fill the pockets of the fibers on the brush which causes it to absorb less water so unless you're using it with oil paint then you're going to constantly get reduced performance after even a short amount of time and then you have the oil and acrylic polymer molecules filling up those crevices killing your brush much faster as you cant clean those out without knowing what you're doing.

as I said I'm bitchy in the morning before ive taken my crazy pills

[short pawn]

Well i mean I never said you were irritational or disagreed really, but thats why people keep using bad paints

[sick ledge]

No you made sense as you always do since you're fairly rational

[short pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/alligator-crocodile-cute-cute-crocodile-crocodile-crown-gif-82607815684795772

I didn't enjoy my time with Pro Acryl's white but I i like their metallics

[sick ledge]

their metallics are ok. probably their best paints honestly

[short pawn]

Is there even a non hobby version of metallic paints? Because i dont even know what the fuck metallic paints be

[sick ledge]

I have gripes with the particle size but thats more a long winded debate about the sizes causes less reflectivity so reducing the metallic effect

[sick ledge]

yeah. I use them all the time

Lascaux studio bronze is my go to

its expensive and hard to find though

but I have yet to find a metallic that beats it and ive been looking for years

[short pawn]

Looks like an interesting paint

[sick ledge]

the aluminium is god tier

[short pawn]

I might try them, the Blick near me has a good stock

[sick ledge]

the other ones have some issues and I dont recommend them unless you know what to do when they have stability issues

but they are still very good

old holland would be good if they werent mentally defective and put copper paints in an uncoated aluminium tube

[compact umbra]

genestealr cult mention

[white tangle]

@sick ledge Im looking to getting the Neutral grey from Golden, do you know how bright the colour is? Is it on the darker or lighter side? I cant really tell by looking at images.

Is it similar to Pro acryls Neutral grey? Because thats baically what im looking for.

[sick ledge]

they are greys so the less black ones will be brighter

[white tangle]

Wait im a bit confused. So is the Golden high flow one brighter side?

[sick ledge]

no

[white tangle]

damn

[sick ledge]

wait what do you mean by brighteR?

[white tangle]

Like GW Seer grey bright and the Pro acryl Neutral grey? I have the pro acryl one and thats the sort of bright im looking for but some images show it being dark and some closer to white.

I dont want like an Eshin grey. For comparison.

[sick ledge]

this is all of their neutral greys

https://goldenartistcolors.com/resources/neutral-grays

[white tangle]

Oh, wait what? I thought they only had one.

Oh i see

This is what im trying to get close to. So thats like N7-N8?

[sick ledge]

I think thats like n9

but you can also just mix in more white

[white tangle]

Alright, thanks!

[wary sonnet]

This is not shiny at all.

[surreal geyser]

me when i can’t post images

[short mauve]

That's because you put like, one layer of paint

[twilit token]

Black templars kitbashed apothecary

[peak flicker]

WIP

[brisk vapor]

https://assets.ctfassets.net/ost7hseic9hc/6nhjgj1BVPlaTocG6L4IbS/e42b72a50979ca58769b9e85e04ae79a/2023-24_accounts_-_final.pdf

if y'all want to gush over the annual Games Workshop financial report, it's here

[lavish crescent]

Advice: never use mat varnish for gold paint and dry brush the gold on if needed, satin varnish is really good for it though

[brisk vapor]

@sick ledge Amsterdam paints and inks yay/nay?

it's pretty much the easiest to come around here it seems

right now I'm especially looking for inks

[sick ledge]

I didnt hate them but I didnt think they were that great. They sit at a comfortable "its ok I guess". So yeah the inks are pretty decent my problems with them came down to the pigments they used like having 4 pigments for a burnt sienna or calling something ultramarine violet when its dioxazine violet and white

the adherence was better than liquitex

[brisk vapor]

I've not heard good things about liquitex inks from bust painters but I was recommended Daler Rowney and Aerlo Color

but those are hard to come by here

[sick ledge]

daler rowney is a dog shit ink.
Liquitex inks arent bad but you need to know how to use them which most bust painters dont seem to as most don't know pigments they just go "oh pretty colors"

Which is what all artist paint companies say about artists funny enough. Most paint companies have my number saved as "weird pigment guy" because im constantly calling about weird properties of pigments

[brisk vapor]

also of note, I woudln't be using the inks as is, but to mix in with the acrylics like Kimera to keep the colour deep and still fluid enough for ease of use

[sick ledge]

The issue with liqutex is they can water reactivate if you dont know the dry times of the specific pigment

[brisk vapor]

right

[sick ledge]

because remember that acrylics are thermoplastics and dry under an exothermic reaction and pigments can speed or delay that cure time based off their thermal properties

this is why cadmium oils can take a month to be touch dry

[brisk vapor]

gotta have that thang ||(hair dryer)|| on me whilst painting

[sick ledge]

aero ink from schmincke I havent tested but they are one of 2 companies to have pbr25 as an ink. The other one is holbein.
Some colors wont be matched exactly from one brand but amsterdam white ink is completely usable as an ink and thinner

[sick ledge]

I dont use one of those due to the crazing issues that causes because of the shrinkage that happens from when an acrylic film cures

but I cant say I havent been tempted

[brisk vapor]

yeah

neither have I but at the workshop I attended it was in heavy use

[sick ledge]

when you have very limited time in a class room its not the worst however I still wouldnt use one in there

Plus a lot of my acrylics wont really get helped out by a hair dryer

they will sort of but the amount of time you need to hold one to dry the paint will cause damage to the paint

[brisk vapor]

ye

[visual turret]

Ah im reminded of that paint expert that was here a while ago

I can’t remember its name

[brisk vapor]

that's him

corpse

[sick ledge]

not an expert, I just work in the field

[golden night]

if any of you want a life sized version of a very niche mechanicus gun i just finished my gamma pistol
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/gamma-ray-pistol

[visual turret]

yes! It was corpse

[visual turret]

you're too humble, corpse! You've got vast swathes of knowledge

[calm tundra]

Well compared to most people I think You could reasonably be called an expert in the field
Especially that you work in it

[sick ledge]

I look like an expert compared to you guys, I look like you guys compared to the actual experts if that puts things into perceptive if that says anything.
All I can do is listen to them speak and its like their speaking ancient greek, I can pick out words but most of it is alien.
It's just like when I listen to experts on color theory with multiple doctorates in the field. Its honestly humbling to an extreme degree.

Here is a sample video of the experts speaking about color theory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_BTChYTKKU

This was short and explained more about highlighting than anything else ive seen

[midnight cairn]

I dunno, that video was more understandable to me than most things you've said so far 😆 but that's because I have hardly a clue about painting.

[vale pollen]

Made this today

[silent dome]

not 40k but thought I’d share

[upbeat carbon]

Nice HH Era marine

[silent dome]

thanks! he’s apart of my Blood Angels Command Squad

[sick ledge]

I never said it wasnt understandable just that its more clear, quicker, and concise than most videos about that stuff that artists make.

Its almost like artists are artists and not physicists

[plain violet]

I caved and bought this thing like a moron. Now I have 22 Bugs and a bumass marine to paint. Never painted before and I'm just thinking of looking up tutorials and getting a starter set

Paint wise I mean

[golden night]

you're lucky that you can probably get every paint required from one of the starter sets

[plain violet]

Maybe so. Starter set I had a peak at on the Shop had all the colors needed for 46 smackaroos. Was thinking of a Dark Blue carapice, White skin, and Black Claws for the Bug boys, because Leviathan has been really oversaturated for my taste

Maybe after this as practice I could have my hand at some Necrons later down the line

[sick ledge]

Just be weary as a brand new painter mini painting tutorials that are designed for beginners are in reality only designed for advanced painters as the people always fail to remember things like muscle memory, brush control, and the actual basics of color theory.

I'd highly recommend looking up canvas artists like James gurney. This is the guy those youtubers get their information from in the first place but they are stuck on a version of color theory called Itten thats 120 years out of date while Gurney isn't so you get better and cleaner information thats shortly and more straightt to the point.

[short pawn]

Do you guys wanna see my tattoo just dont tell the mods its not a 40k mini

[sick ledge]

yes

[sick ledge]

tomie cat

[plain violet]

Hell yeah

[short pawn]

YESSSS THANK YOU

NOBODY ELSE GETS IT

[sick ledge]

Im a goth and a fan of Junji ito. Of course I'ds get it

[short pawn]

I talk to weebs and horror super fans and they don't know shit!

[short pawn]

YEAHHHHH

[plain violet]

And Hell yeah, thanks for the heads-up. Gurney should have a playlist for beginner's, right? I've painted on canvas before, just not on a 3D object

[sick ledge]

He does. Mini painters dont actually paint on a 3d canvas either funny enough. They paint everything with a 2d mindset.

I'm actually currently working on a series dedicated to a development of 3d painting using light spectral analysis to detect specific wavelengths of pigments to see how they interact with light so you can get enhanced natural shading for a better 3d look

Its been a project ive been working on for a few years and I have a lot of it done

But its also required me to go far past normal color theory and have to learn the biological and physics side of it... which now I am corrupted

[plain violet]

What did I get myself into

[sick ledge]

a discussion with someone who has a career in the paint industry whos autism chose paint instead of trains or guns

But its actually way simpler than what i said like if you use PV15 ultramarine violet as a shade for flesh tones it enhances the natural shadow so it pops more while being more subtle in direct light

I just have to go through the science of it all to find the pigments that work

[plain violet]

I.. think I'm getting what you're saying? Never heard a shade of purple be described like that

[sick ledge]

Thats the pigment. Pigment Violet 15 Ultramarine Violet

[plain violet]

Oh

Huh

[sick ledge]

I dont use mini paints

I've been working in the coatings industry for long enough to know a lot of the industry secrets about them

||they are almost all made by house paint companies like sherman williams and they are in the industry considered low grade due to the pvc of them being too high from the fillers aka matte agent||

||this will sound stupid but a lower pigmentation is actually considered a higher grade than super high pigmentation due to the polymer to pigment ratios||

[plain violet]

I see.. I guess...

I'll prolly figure all this out soon after I get some sleep

Throw spaghetti noodles at a wall and see what sticks

[sick ledge]

thats how I paint

[plain violet]

Oh, hell yeah

[eternal ivy]

Not technically a 40k mini but im happy enough with this that I want to share it

[tiny cairn]

Let's go

Where's the raid at?

[prime crown]

Did you just... un orked the ork bomber?

[brisk vapor]

Some work on the blacks

[upbeat carbon]

I might have to steal the pic - and the joke about unorking an Ork vehicle - for sharing, if you don’t mind.

[oak apex]

sure, go ahead.

[round bison]

Finished my blooded killteam

[calm tundra]

Oh they look really nice

And I'm sorry, but the plasma gun looks a bit like a nerf gun lol

[round bison]

[rare hornet]

Done the Corvus black on one of them and a cheeky little bit of silver too

[sage matrix]

A demon in the works

[old socket]

My first 500 points is fully painted!

[trail coyote]

400 quadrillion dollars for all this btw^

[crisp sable]

WIP 🚧, Grotesque conversion. Poor slab.

[jaunty trail]

@rare hornet wip on one of four ion blaster hearthkyn i still need to do

[rare hornet]

Ooooooh I love it

I got the combat patrol to do once these guys are done

[jaunty trail]

I used some different set parts out of salvager KT Box for this one

[jaunty trail]

Still having half a Boarding Action, half an Army Box Set and still a Sagitaur left to do...

When 4 Ion Blaster Hearthkyn are done i have finished my KT Box... And i'm pretty happy that my Hekaton is done...

[rare hornet]

Yeah, you’ve got the biggest things out the way first, just a heads up though, hearthguard shoulder pads go on in an… interesting way

[jaunty trail]

Mkay... I still think over having yellow plate armor for my hearthguard or making black Armor with yellow assets....

[round bison]

He is pointing to the nitra in the cave wall

[golden night]

mushrooooom

[rare hornet]

I think go for yellow armour, because the black runs a risk of losing a bit of detail

[jaunty trail]

Then Yellow with red or black assets?

I'm pretty unsure atm

tried with screaming bell, doesn'z look that good

[midnight cairn]

The termi leader seems a little headless...

[flint crescent]

just not bright nuff/poor lighting, did place it where the gravis captain's head slot was

[mint dove]

Anybody got any reccomendations for a good brush on acrylic primer?

I'm trying to paint some gunpla and don't want to spray the whole piece and also it's been too hot to spray here

[brisk vapor]

Any large flat brush I recon

Oh, "brush on" not brush

Uhh, I've used Army Painter's but not sure if it's the best option

It worked fine

[mint dove]

Okay cool, I have some old stuff i haven't used, not by army painter

I think it's called mission models?

[brisk vapor]

Haven't heard of them but after a quick Google search seems like they'd be fine

[mint dove]

Also if I'm guessing handbrushing primer would be the same principle as painting bade coats? 1-2 thinner coats just to give the base paint something to grab

[brisk vapor]

Actually with the brush on primers a single slightly thicker than usual cost should be fine, it should even out nicely

But you could always do a test run on some random bit to make sure

[mint dove]

Yeah that's what I've got cooking now on a random bit of sprue, a thicker coat and a thin coat just to see the outcome

I never would have thought painting gunpla would be harder than warhammer

[rare hornet]

What did you use it for?

[jaunty trail]

Some middle shoulderpad trim

But doesn't look that cool

so i'm unsure if red/black would look better

[ocean pendant]

Started building a mini, within the first minute an important piece of it flung off into the air, Lost forever

[jaunty trail]

Then Search the ground and area very carefully

[ocean pendant]

In a most improbable turn of events, it turns out it landed in my pocket

[rare hornet]

What is the armour colour it’s going on?

[upbeat carbon]

Is the model Tzeentch aligned by any chance?

[ocean pendant]

Na, Cities of Sigmar

[upbeat carbon]

Ah nice. Just felt like Tzeentch shenanigans 🤣

[jaunty trail]

Still yellow armor

[rare hornet]

Go black then, sticks out more

[jaunty trail]

ok

[visual turret]

Tome keeper

[sick ledge]

golden soflat.

seriously

its better than any of those branded primers and more durable

[sick ledge]

Dont make me threaten you with me buying you some paint just for base coats

white black and burnt umber so basic stuff

[edgy jackal]

Wait, just this: https://www.vanbeekart.nl/p/golden-soflat-acrylic-59ml-6755-serie-1-titanium-white/131731/

Brushed on plastic?

[sick ledge]

Yes.

[edgy jackal]

Lmao, I'll have to try it

[sick ledge]

soflat white over bare resin

[edgy jackal]

Nice to have a brush on primer for bad weather days

[sick ledge]

thinned at a 4 water to 1 paint ratio just to prove a point

to someone else

[edgy jackal]

And for everyone else, what would you recommend?

[sick ledge]

1 to 1

and honestly you might not even need to thin it

thats entirely up to you

[brisk vapor]

I was just helping a brother out 😄

[sick ledge]

I know

I'm still going to threaten you with it

genuinely because I want to see your opinion of it

[round bison]

I wanna bounce an idea off if i can
In the korean war us tank crews would paint scary faces and tiger faces on the front of their tanks to intimidate the enemy. You guys think tank crews in the imperium would do the same or is it too out of character
Ex.

[mint dove]

Like Goldens specialized primer? The Gac 100 stuff?

[sick ledge]

I think you can do what ever you want to do and you could make up your own chapter/planet to fit your army

[mint dove]

Or literally just soflat paint

[sick ledge]

No. I mean just the soflat paint

Primer is a marketing term for opaque base coat and not some specialty thing for this hobby

[mint dove]

I see I see,

And if I'm using it just thin it like I'm doing a normal base coat

[sick ledge]

genuine primer fuses to the substraight(assuming its a plastic primer) and the other types of primers have anti-fouling agents in it and can contain arsenic or lead

[sick ledge]

yes

[mint dove]

Okay buddy I trust you, I'll go pick up some tomorrow

[sick ledge]

Its what I currently use a lot

I only use 3 colors, white, black and burnt umber

I mostly use white and burnt umber

black is there for when I do grisaille

brown is also in grisaille

its how you make neutral greys

[mint dove]

I'm having to get really good at masking painting gunpla is hard

So if I'm painting a red I'd want to make the base coat burnt umber ?

[sick ledge]

brown and white

brown to deepen the color and white to get a brighter one

[mint dove]

Okay very good to know

[sick ledge]

brown if you want a deeper red

as a whole

[brisk vapor]

I mean if the cost isn't too much for you I can't really decline either

[sick ledge]

In your country I think it would cost me about $40 for the 3 118ml bottles

so not much money

I can do that next month I think

this month I spend my free money to commission my D&D character from a struggling artist who does really stupidly good work

[brisk vapor]

Well if you're up for some experiments and study on your behalf why not

[sick ledge]

Youre at the perfect painting level for this too. You're not to high up you're stuck in your ways and refuse to move out of a paint line but you paint enough to understand some nuisances of paint while not working with it like I do. Like I can see the quality difference between kimera and golden but a lot of people dont notice it as they havent had much experience with paint so having that balance would be good

[brisk vapor]

Right, well sure I wouldn't mind some learning too. Send me a DM or whatever when you feel like putting this into action

[sick ledge]

I shall.
I know a lot of youtubers talked about how much better it was but then dropped it quickly for the new hobby lines because "mixing colors was too complicated" or something weird even though they do it frequently in their tutorials

[brisk vapor]

I see

[sick ledge]

plus basic colors in larger bottles means you'd have an option that could potentially save you money

[short pawn]

The imperium is so incredibly vast that there's an exception to every rule

Go crazy

[flint crescent]

yee i have good experience with it
if not looking for a specific color, it is a rather neutral warm grey

[sick ledge]

I keep hearing mini painters having good experiences with army painter products but everytime Ive used it it was trash.
Dont get me started on the fading issues with the fanatics line...

my standards might just be way too high for this hobby as it keeps killing my enjoyment

[flint crescent]

haven't tried too much, but Army painter doesn't have good bright red (not orangered) paints, and honestly just about no line does, Citadel at least has Mephiston Red, and besides being incredibly inconsistent/thin/whatever, Monolith PRO Acryl's Bold Pyrolle Red is decently bright

[sick ledge]

I personally hate proacryl's pyrrole red because its pvc is ungodly high because they put way too much filler in it and it drowns out the color compared to what normal pyrrole red is like.

and with pvc that high it has longevity issues

Hobby brands dont use good pigments a lot because good pigments are extremely expensive. If proacryl used the pyrrole with minimal extender that bottle would be about $15-20 based off the market they are going for

this is cheap for this pigment

100-110 is per kg. The bags it comes in are 25kg each

thats pyrrole red

[mint dove]

@sick ledge when I'm using that soflat since I'm just using it as primer, do I need 2 coats and full coverage or will one thin coat do me fine

[sick ledge]

that is entirely up to you

I typically do one but sometimes I do two depending on my needs

[mint dove]

Alright I'm gonna try a new way of masking to see if it works better

Instead of masking everything but the part I want paint on, I'm going to mask everything then carefully cut away the tape around what I want colored

[white shore]

What’s the best combat patrol for 10th Ed

[mint dove]

@sick ledge I'm really gonna try using my airbrush more, can I use citadel through the airbrush if I thin it correctly?

And can I run contrast paints through the airbrush unthinned?

[sick ledge]

yes

[sick ledge]

I think so

dont know entirely

[mint dove]

Okay, as for airbrush "primer" I have vallejo mecha, mission models, golden hi flow and white and gray ink, what would work better?

[sick ledge]

high flow is better tbh but all of them will have a similar effect

mission models isnt bad either

its made by createx which is a quality brand

[mint dove]

And neither need to be thinned?

[sick ledge]

no. But most people swear the vallejo needs to be thinned but anytime you thin it all it will do is have problems, but it has problems out of the bottle as you NEED to strain it badly

[mint dove]

Gotcha,well I'll give it a go tonight and post my results

[sick ledge]

👍

[mint dove]

@sick ledge and would you reccomend thinning citadel with airbrush thinner or just distilled water

[sick ledge]

distilled water is fine

airbrush thinner is very hit or miss

its VERY brand dependent

between both the thinner and the paint

[mint dove]

Rad, I'm stoked to actually try some color correction on a kit and not use God awful stickers

[sick ledge]

Like vallejo airbrush thinner really only works on vallejo paints and makes every other paint awful

because you cant decrease vallejo quality with some overpriced tap water

[mint dove]

Good to know, because that's ehat I have lol

[sick ledge]

its butoxy ethanol so it is a speed dryer and not a flow improver or anything good

[mint dove]

Thankfully I have a pretty hefty supply of valldjo paints

Time to combine my interests, gentlemen, behold, the start of my tau army

[plush swift]

Sick

[jaunty trail]

@rare hornet black trims does well on the mini.. will paint all my hearthguards and einhyr champions like that ^^

[mint dove]

@sick ledge you were right about the soflat

1 coat of brown and 2 coats of evil suns

[sick ledge]

have I been wrong about paint?

yes

but not often

[mint dove]

You have an astounding track record

I'm gonna go pick up some white and black tomorrow

Because I tried masking

It didn't go well

[sick ledge]

I have metal stencils I got on aliexpress for $5

[mint dove]

Metal stencils?

[sick ledge]

yeah they are used to cut out masking tape

[mint dove]

Got a link? That would be helpful, because trying to do this freehand leads to a bunch of nonsense sized pieces

[sick ledge]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806557881421.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.143.398b1802BuwEqw&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa tons of these exist on there

[vale breach]

I'd recommend you go for an army you like, play for the lore and characters rather than "whats meta rn" as that will change

[faint lantern]

This one, I highly recommend

[mint dove]

Ahh fuck yeah! My favorite! Moveable frame gundan!

[white shore]

Yeah fair enough

[white shore]

Meant as in money to models wise as I’m only interested in the painting aspect

[midnight cairn]

Costs wise, armies with few models due to high point cost per unit are most efficient, like custodes. Although it seems GW is trying to change that, too, with the sisters of silence units.

[rare hornet]

The black contrast well to yellow

[jaunty trail]

Yups pretty happy with that

[vale breach]

Money to model's probally an elite army

Daemon's

Chaos or Imperial Knights

or Custode's

[pastel grotto]

Blows up pancakes with railgun

[mint merlin]

ma fuckin pan-

[mint dove]

@sick ledge got the soflat today, I was looking for a neutral gray but they only had black and white

[sick ledge]

you can easily mix a grey

and for carbon black

close enough

its a bit more blue but w/e

close enough again

[white tangle]

@sick ledge You know that Golden highflow? Is it just airbrush ready or would you recommend adding a bit of thinner?>

[sick ledge]

airbrush ready

[plain violet]

How it started VS How it's going

Is it over for me already?

I had no Spray Primer

[rare hornet]

Slap some nuln oil on that bad boi and job's a gooden

[plain violet]

I don't think I have that either, but I thinned out the second coat with some water, and I'm happy with the result

[latent sierra]

how come IN ever see adeptus mechanus armies?

[pastel grotto]

Just for that

I cast forge world metalica

The sickest of them all

[latent sierra]

thats so fucking cool

[plain violet]

I admit, I went way heavier with the Contrast than I wanted, but I think it's a good start?

[teal wolf]

Scored this old lt for cheap. Spent today stripping and covering up dmg. Did I hide the dmg well enough?

[golden night]

hot damn that is the best pose i've ever seen on a lt

[mint dove]

What tool is this? Looks very useful

[mint dove]

Do you like it?

[sick ledge]

https://goldenartistcolors.com/mixer/acrylic

[mint dove]

Cheers, but you were right about this golden soflat as primer

I fucked up yesterday and made it way too runny, and it still stuck and dried flat

[plain violet]

I personally do, yes

[mint dove]

Then you like it, trust your gut friend

[plain violet]

You right

[sick ledge]

thats what quality paint is like

[edgy crystal]

Just got the DarkTide game!!

[open pivot]

Havent painted in a long while but here is my first ever painted mini, Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons

[plain violet]

Little guy

He will be dust soon

[open pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/darthvader-nooooo-funny-starwars-no-gif-4920019

[plush swift]

That’s so cool

How did you paint it

[alpine zealot]

My first night lords attempt

[lethal lion]

I Pretty much use ProAcryle paints only. Air brushed the White. The gold was given a Flesh Wash for depth. The silver was a Dark silver base, and dry brushed Silver paint for the tone change.

[sick ledge]

with paint

[lethal lion]

Don't make it to easy for him lol

[sick ledge]

make sure you get a varnish on it soon. Proacryl has PVC thats drasticly above CPVC so it chalks and can crack from moisture exposure easily

PVC is pigment volume concentration and CPVC is critical pigment volume concentration

Breaching CPVC means you dont have enough binder to wet the pigment so it wont adhere correctly

or have issues for durability

[lethal lion]

I just need this, covers most jobs when they're done lol

[sick ledge]

montana works yeah. I generally suggest automotive since automotive can go over oil paints unlike most varnishes and other acrylics which also includes tamiya and mr.color since those are manufactured by Nippon chemical and their subsidiary who makes automotive paints

Montana isnt bad as it's for outdoor exposure murals IIRC

[lethal lion]

I know, that's why I love using it. No mess, streaks and hard af 😛

[sick ledge]

Youre one of the few who uses something decent I've seen here

so congrats on that one, great seeing stuff that isnt hobby marketted

[lethal lion]

Glad you like it, thanks fella!

[rare hornet]

Starting to get there now

[trim tundra]

How come we all dump on the centurion for its flawed exoskeleton, but when the midgets (dwarves){squats} do it we don't say anything?

[rare hornet]

Now listen here, I don’t wanna hear nothing bad about my beloved centurion

They are my beloved chonky space marines

[upbeat carbon]

To be fair, I think when they were released, people just thought “why not diversify Terminator weapons”

And way back then

Marines were kind of the spoiled child (IIRC These guys are released before Sisters and Dark Eldar got their range upgrades)

The combination of the two led to the disparaging of the war suits

Which, all things considered and looking at New Coteaz

In hindsight, it has been a wee bit too harsh.

[ocean pendant]

My issue with the centurions are the proportions, I've seen some good kitbashes which stretch them out and make them look better

[upbeat carbon]

The fact that Centurions were realised shortly after a YouTube parody made fun of (back then) GW CEO saying “Marines…INSIDE of Space Marines” as a GW money making tactic certainly did not help.

Fuck that was 11 years ago. Time flies.

[sick ledge]

haha you're old

and im older... now I feel old

[flint crescent]

what if centurions had the boombox missile launcher

[plain violet]

Little Shits

[limber haven]

Been working on my sisters of battle ☺️ 👍

[plain violet]

Oooo, I like!

[trim tundra]

I like them too. I actually thinks there nothing wrong with the sculpt, I don't like how they positioned them. They could've given them a bit of life in their poses.

The leg poses that is.

[rare hornet]

that's just their age

[visual turret]

Painted a sally :)

[mint dove]

How could I go about painting this effect on the blades?

I'm guessing prime white, base coat mephiston red, drybrush troll slayer orange, lighter drybrush yriel yellow, then drybrush astorath red over the whole part

[limber haven]

Base Mephiston red wet blended into evil suns scarlet?

[mint dove]

Never been good at wet blending

[limber haven]

Oh I just make it the fuck up as I go lol

Or use lahmian medium to turn es scarlet into a glaze, apply multiple coats? Hairdryer to speed up each glaze layer. Trollslayer orange mixed with es scarlet to edge highlight would be nice

It doesn’t have sharp highlighted edges so maybe not ts orange alone as highlight 🤔

[mint dove]

See? They turned out great, trust your gut

[mint dove]

What I may do is prime white, base coat mephiston, Glaze troll slayer orange, then airbrush bright red ink all over the blade to make it look like it's glowing orange

Can contrast paint be ran straight through an airbrush?

[limber haven]

Yes, quite easily. A little flow improver can help but otherwise it’s fine

[mint dove]

Alright cool. Saves me time mixing

[latent sierra]

Hey does the adeptus mechanius get new units regularly or updated rules? Or is it kinda forgotten about from games workshop

Workshop

[mint dove]

They do sometimes, but mechanics is stupid expensive to field

[latent sierra]

Like gameplay wise?

[mint dove]

Like money wise

They're the most expensive facton iirc

[latent sierra]

Damn

[mint dove]

And with the recent price hike it's even worse

Admech is 75 cents per point of units

[latent sierra]

Like their models?

[mint dove]

Yes, so every 75 cents gets you 1 point, although that was last edition, it's probably worse now

For a good 2k army you're looking at $1,500 before paint and such

[main mango]

Capitalism at its finest lol

[mint dove]

They're want to be a horde army st elite army prices

$50 for a box of 10 rangers, and you need 50 of them,

[sick ledge]

a air dryer also will cause the thermoplastics in the paint to lose their stability which causes crazing and cracking over time too because as the paint dries the film shrinks down causing the film to be tight and secure but speed drying that prevents that. just because it looks fine that moment doesnt mean it will a month from then.

Also a lot of "non-toxic" pigment when exposed to high heat like that of a hair dryer can release toxic fumes with a few just flat out being deadly including cyanide gas. So yeah dont use a hair dryer.

I have sources for all of this btw but you might have to sit through several thousand pages of data.

[floral wind]

Should have dusted the backdrop beforehand

[plain violet]

Yessir! I will say, I'm much prouder of the Contrast on the Swarms. That was mostly what I was wanting

[flint crescent]

translucent green my beloved

[plain violet]

NECRONS!

[hollow goblet]

Nah admech are easily the hardest army to collect. They're an absolute pain to paint and you have to paint skin, cloth, metal, glow FX, lenses on almost every single (particularly tiny) model and everything is severely undercosted and weak in-game so you need to buy so many more boxes than most armies do to get equivalent value

Unless you really like admech I'd kinda urge against them tbh they're not very well designed as an overall army rn and need some adjustments

[rare hornet]

Alternatively to what’s written above, you can play the other side of the mechanicus and just get yourself a warlord titan

[native sluice]

Warlord? Coward
Make your own super tall emperor titan

That’s where it’s at

[rare hornet]

Well the warlord the largest Titan that has legal rules

Be the champ who turns up to an event with a singular Titan and stare down your opponent the entire time during deployment phase

[native sluice]

And you’re going to let that stop you? We shall rise above such concepts of reality and we shall strike our enemies with our might

[rare hornet]

As a Titan user you should be allowed to throw bricks at your opponent

It’s called immersion

[upbeat carbon]

Actually at smaller points titans are a bit of a liability
Too many points concentrated on one model.

[rare hornet]

Yeah, but titan

[latent sierra]

So how do inquisititers work? Can I just put them in any army? Or do they have to be in like grey knights or sisters of battle

[ocean pendant]

Inquisitors will fall under the new Imperial Agents Codex, they can join any Imperial army

But we won't know their exact new rules on how that works until the codex comes out in a couple weeks

[upbeat carbon]

Well for a solo Inquisitor, specifically, we sort of know how joining works (if your main army is Guard/AdMech/Vanilla Marines/Custodes)
You can just take a single Inquisitor without trouble.

(I would advise holding off a bit for the Chamber Militants because this codex could affect those too)

[proven mountain]

Surely it's not mini, but there you go

[white tangle]

ead

[tacit chasm]

Went back to work on my overlord today. Tried out some airbrushing for the phase weapon but sadly I messed up one of the sides. Still a WIP but feedback/experience welcome

[brisk vapor]

Some doggos on the way

[sick ledge]

you've improved

[rare hornet]

Beautiful

[native sluice]

I bet you're unwilling to die for the dark gods

For shame

[upbeat carbon]

lol

[plain violet]

Be me Painting my Bugs and decide to put some shading on them. What could it hurt?

My brother in Christ why haven't I done this already it looks so good

I know I can clean some areas up but my GOD

[brisk vapor]

Appreciate it!

[slate pond]

It's liquid talent 💪💪

[upbeat carbon]

Can I just say - this actually makes it look like porcelain, which is oddly very artistic in its own right.

[visual turret]

porcelainh bugé

[plain violet]

Oooh shit you're right! I originally went for a sickly look with the blue and stuff because Leviathan is heavily oversatured for my taste, and the mention of porcelain fits with this

[rare hornet]

Alternatively you got, blue cheese

[plain violet]

Blue cheese also fits, since it's sickly and gross in its own right

[upbeat carbon]

Nicely painted nonetheless

[upbeat carbon]

Now I can just imagine the Administratum running out of cool names to use for all the Nid fleets so you get “Hive Fleet Porcelain” or “Hive Fleet Gorgonzola” as codifications…

[white tangle]

By the way, how did you paint the skin on the face?

[sick ledge]

transparent paints are legit what fine artists prefer because it give you more utility.
You havent done it before because the community hates transparency

[plain violet]

Hive Fleet Sunchi

[teal nest]

Buzz lightyear kills Zerg with a chain sword

[round bison]

Thinking about making a little turntable to showoff my minis better for like instagram

[stone bane]

Just got this in the mail from a friend. Probably going to convert it to Tallarn.

[brisk vapor]

First pass on the trims

[exotic sluice]

not mine lol just found it online

[silver thorn]

Holy crap I'm so jealous of your power

I just can't do flesh tones to my satisfaction

the slight red on the scar is really impressive

did you hit it with a red wash just in those cracks?

[rare hornet]

That is some impressive head

[flint crescent]

especially when one gets sweeping advance'd because it wanted to fall back for some reason (impossible in any edition because afaik sweeping advances and titans never coexisted)

[white tangle]

It was glazing of khorne red on the scars recesses, highlight with the skin tone highlight, glaze of khorne red over the scar and then spot highlight same as the skintone.

[sage matrix]

Birthday update

[sick ledge]

mix your own flesh tones. it legit will allow that

[silver thorn]

I bought an entire baggy of heads to practice on

2 months ago

and Ive been painting armor because I know how to do it

xD

[sick ledge]

I can always show you how. its not terribly hard

[signal plover]

This counts

[dawn stream]

I ordered a bunch of Custodes yesterday

[remote wasp]

if anyone has painted world eater space marine minis can they put some pictures of the front, back and sides of them in the chat or dm them to me? I'm making a world eater cosplay and need references before I workshop. Thank you!

[mint dove]

Need some help color matching

The green section on the weapon, how can I make that color?

Preferably with citadel paint

I thought it would just be caliban green but it doesn't look right

[urban drum]

Why not look at games workshop's store page for the world eaters combat patrol

Have a look at the gallery and see the 360 view

[remote wasp]

Fr? Yeah I’ll do that! Thanks

[rapid willow]

Speaking of khorne, it isn't 40k but he's present. Itsss generic guy with axe!

Love chaos armies, they're so transferable between AoS and 40k

[tacit chasm]

As long as it contains spikes and rage, it works

[jaunty trail]

Some friday wips

[rare hornet]

So wanna get my hands on one of them bad boys

[floral wind]

Anyone know where this chaplain model comes from? Or if its a kitbash

[visual turret]

Side note - OML I want that model, who is it???

[lavish crescent]

How many brother?

[short pawn]

got the next 4-6 weeks off of work and my ass is going to spend an unnecessary amount of time and money on toy soldiers

[white tangle]

So I've taken away this poor bastard's hair privilege and made him a century younger. After sanding it to make it as smooth as I could get it with a very fine paper, it looks like this. After the paint has gone over it, it should look fairly smooth right?

ive also washed it and stuff

[brisk vapor]

If it's not perfectly smooth you can paint a stubble on it

[white tangle]

Thats the plan. From what i can see it is smooth as in like no grooves or anything. It just has the texture left over by the sandpaper.

[jaunty trail]

?

[rare hornet]

I want to get a sagitaur

[jaunty trail]

Ah i see

they are smaller than expected

but nice to build & paint

[rare hornet]

You gonna do the windows clear?

[dawn stream]

Almost 2k points worth

Auric Champions, Trajann Valoris and a box of Guard

[lavish crescent]

Bow?

Never heard of that but fair

[dawn stream]

Friggin autocorrect

[sick ledge]

Add yellow

[dawn stream]

Sorry I was still half asleep and not wearing my glasses when I typed that

I didn't catch the auto correct

I'm also going to order an Achillus when I get paid next week

[jaunty trail]

Currently lookin' for some techniques how oi could paint them... I had clear windows on Hekaton and got nuked for that in several discords/spaces

[sick ledge]

fuck those people

they just want to feel better for being lazy and not painting the insides

[jaunty trail]

Ye on Hekaton i painted everyting in cockpit... even monitors have details...

[sick ledge]

they didnt and want to shame others for putting in the effort they didnt want to

its stupidly common and bothers me a lot

[jaunty trail]

I especially got nuked for not painting the trims... I think that Votann have advanced tech so optical adaption panels could fit...

[sick ledge]

I would still paint the trims because it just would look better to me

but im me and not you

[plain violet]

Here's Captain Tit's Us primed before I paint him. I'm saving his ass for last because I'd imagine he's gonna be a Bitch to paint

[jaunty trail]

Thats the point. And even if i don't like a decision someone makes on his mini i wouldn't nuke this person for that

[sick ledge]

exactly. Most i'd do is ask "why didnt you paint the trim or is that coming later?" and if you said "I prefer the look without the painted trim" my response would be something like "that works for me"

No need to nuke someone for their artistic choices

[brazen star]

Ok Henry Cavil

[dawn stream]

Custodes were cool before Henry Cavill

[glossy hawk]

and after

[dawn stream]

The Golden Boys have always been awesome

I'm pretty stoked to start on them when they get delivered early next week

[brazen star]

Ik but he's the only reason I've really became interested in the world of Warhammer

[dawn stream]

The first Space Marine game is what did it for me

I was somewhat aware of it before that but it was after I played through Space Marine that I fell deep into 40k

[rare hornet]

I’m gonna paint them a golden colour, to imitate the anti glare coating on F-16s

[white tangle]

By the way, is that a different helmet you put on titus or is that the one that comes with his kit?

[plain violet]

Yes. I was not about to paint the face of that man

[short pawn]

My hopefully productive 4 week project (i painted the cat just haven't done their base yet)

[sick ledge]

you're thinking f22

[rare hornet]

F-16 does it as well

Although not always

[sick ledge]

this is a later production export model f16 canopy and its not really gold

it doesnt reflect the same

[rare hornet]

Well gold gets the point across really,

[sick ledge]

F22

F35 has something similar to the F16

The F22 glass has a thin layer of indium tin oxide over it as it reduces the radar cross section of the aircraft and blocks EM waves which can harm the pilot and instruments inside the craft

its transparent at some angles too

pigment technology excites me if you cant tell

[rare hornet]

I'm just gonna use a brownish gold and call it a day

[sick ledge]

hey if it works it works.
I just tend to get the actual pigments for this stuff because A) I have autism and B) My autism picked paint and not trains or guns like the rest of you

[rare hornet]

I mean, fair enough, it’s a topic you’re passionate about. I’ve got about 3 sleep deprived brain cells doing all the thinking and I remember the canopy of the F-16 I saw had a golden colour

[sick ledge]

thats 3 more brain cells than a normal person to be fair

[rare hornet]

true xD

[lunar hedge]

I finally got around to my first squad of Australian Cadian Light Horsemen

[mint dove]

@sick ledge tried to spray golden hiflow through my airbrush last night and it turned out real speckled, when I had full coverage It looked really rough and glossy, what did it do wrong?

And then I tried using vallejo paint in the airbrush for the first time, I added water then paint and it looked like this. Absolutely god awful

[sick ledge]

That's user error on both sides. What psi were you set to?

Also high flow will lean more glossy which is easy to deal with. Airbrush ready paint will generally be more glossy and the matte stuff has issues.

[mint dove]

I think it was south of 20,

[sick ledge]

I'll be home in about 20 minutes or so and I can run through it with you then

[mint dove]

Okay! I'm gonna go to the store but I should be back soon too

[sick ledge]

Looks like the paint is drying in the air before landing on the model

or partially drying

how hot is it in that room?

[mint dove]

Not too hot, like 78?

[sick ledge]

thats bordering on a little too warm

[mint dove]

Yeah it sucks in California. It's like that about 8 months out of the year

[sick ledge]

ideal is 55-75, but can be done at 50-85 depending on binders. humidity of 40-50% max, below 30% and it can leave speckles on the model

[sick ledge]

what sized cup are you using?>

[mint dove]

The standard sized one that comes with the ghalleri

[sick ledge]

mine came with two

i think

either way those cups are fairly large

if you can manage it with the large cup put a drop of the flow improver I sent you into it

smaller cup half a drop

[mint dove]

Okay. What kind of consistency of paint am I looking for?

[sick ledge]

youre just looking to slow the drying time

so a drop should help with that

there is also the off chance that there was some dried paint in the cap and it went into the airbrush

[mint dove]

Okay, it should cool down by next week too so that should help

I'll take the needle out and clean it

I also was given a ton of createx paint by my father in law if that's better stuff

I just don't know how to use it

[sick ledge]

that stuff is good airbrush paint

a lot of canvas artists use it

[mint dove]

He also gave me some 4012 and 4030 with it, but just told me to thin it with a few drops of a 50/50 mix of windex and water, then add a drop or 2 of the balancer clear

[sick ledge]

dont use windex....

[mint dove]

What should I use?

[sick ledge]

Water

and if you have issues a drop or two of the 4012 or 4030 depending

the windex thing is for speed drying and honestly causes problems as it has a surfactant in it which causes crazing problems

and adherence problems

Was he a scale modeler?

[mint dove]

Cars mostly

Like model cars

[sick ledge]

thats a scale modeler. I figured as much with the ammonia thing

train modelers have been yelling at car modelers over that for decades now

[plain violet]

Big Man

[lavish hearth]

I loik him

[plain violet]

Yos

[dawn stream]

Banner looks great

[plain violet]

It does tho

[steady wren]

Another project to undertake

[sudden notch]

man i wanna paint mandrakes but there aint yet seperate box for them

[lavish hearth]

thx it was my first time freehanding letters

[visual turret]

love my little man

[floral wind]

My bt kill team so far. Still have 5 more to go

Bonus points if you can spot who is the oldest paint scheme and the newest

[lavish hearth]

oldest on the right newest on the left?

[floral wind]

first part is correct! The newest is actually the one to his left :3

Unless you meant that particular left mini lol

[lavish hearth]

awe

half right is good enough

[oblique socket]

i'll be making my first ever killteam soon. Kasrkin

[floral wind]

Noice

[oblique socket]

gonna be painting them to look all inquisitorial.. black and red i think is their thing if this game is to go by

[floral wind]

I like that I hope they turn out well for you!

[dawn stream]

I have received a package

[white tangle]

I was airbrush priming today and i primed one thing fine. Then it started spewing little bits. Is there a obvious reason for this? Would it be the tip drying?

[compact umbra]

do you have a humidity trap?

was it hard bits or like wet bits

[left egret]

It has been a hot while... but behold.
My first attempt at a heated gun barrel

And I think I finally know how to paint skin

AND JUST LOOK AT THE HAZARD STRIPES ON THE REAPER CHAINCANNON!!!

(This is the first time I am happy with hazard stripes)

[jaunty trail]

Wip update

[plain violet]

I am never painting Bugs again

Maybe a Deathleaper and a Neruolictor, but that's it

[jaunty trail]

Uhm without wanting to be rude but:

a) why you painted 'ur mouse pad/gaming pad?

b) why didn't u just prime the minis with a rattlecan?

[plain violet]

1. I'm lazy, broke, and don't have another desk

2. The stores i go to didn't have the color i needed

oh- no the "deskpad" is just a big piece of paper

[jaunty trail]

Mkay..

do you have any local gaming store or warhammer store near you? If yes: Most of them take orders that you can pick up when they arrive. So that u can get the needed rattlecans for priming. Makes things much easier here and there.

[plain violet]

I think the one 30 munites from my place does orders. I'll see what they can do

trust me, if i had the spraypaint, I woud've primed them all in one take

[jaunty trail]

Yup ^^

[plain violet]

Ye

I'm defo doing some Necrons after this tho

[jaunty trail]

Necrons are pretty neat & easy to do (depending on their color scheme

[plain violet]

That's good. I saw some Necrons that were painted, i think black, white & blue, and I wanna do something similar

maybe replace the white with brass

[jaunty trail]

Black, Blue and Brass are availiable as rattlecans so far i know...

and if you use masking tape right you can just spray those minis

[plain violet]

Gang

[sick ledge]

dried or or you didnt strain it will enough

[sick ledge]

tbh american spray paint is just cheaper and better hobby store paint in most cases. Its $6 vs $30 for a can

the mark up is nuts considering they arent even quality sprays like toom or KBS

[dawn stream]

I buy Krylon from Hobby Lobby for about 7 bucks

[sick ledge]

I cant use spray paint where I am

[dawn stream]

Confined space?

[sick ledge]

No I live in the south

[dawn stream]

Same but I've never had an issue with spray primer

[sick ledge]

I have issues with it all the time

humidity and southern weather

random spurts of rain or it goes from 60 to 110 randomly

during winter

[dawn stream]

Let me guess, Florida?

[sick ledge]

no

the carolinas

sometimes virginia

or maryland

[dawn stream]

Ah

[sick ledge]

maryland is part of the south because its below the mason dixon line. Most southerners will argue with this but their opinions dont matter since they dont read

[dawn stream]

Hey

We can read beer cans

[sick ledge]

You just look for coors

by color

[dawn stream]

Not a fan of beer myself

Tennessee born and raised, currently living in south Louisiana

[sick ledge]

im so sorry for you

[dawn stream]

Moving back to Tennessee soon because the weather suuucks

I've suffered down here for a decade

[sick ledge]

I want to move back to NYC

[dawn stream]

I don't know if I could live in a city like that. Seems like too much

[sick ledge]

naw its easy

instead of everyone on the street stopping you to tell you their life story despite you not knowing who they are, they all just ignore you

its great

[dawn stream]

I work retail. Trust me, I've met a few oversharers

Usually older people

[jaunty trail]

Some dirt details need to be applied, then done...

@rare hornet what you think 'bout that sagitaur?

[rare hornet]

Now that looks really good

The blue windows came out great

[jaunty trail]

Yup was a mess to do

super thinned kantor blue and some lighter blue (forgot GW name)

2 layers of each thinned blue to get this effect

[white tangle]

You know that golden highflow? Is it fine to be used as normal paint or is it more of a airbrush thing?

[sick ledge]

It's fine as a normal paint yeah.
Airbrush paint can be used on a brush no problem unless it's vallejo

[silver thorn]

what a time to buy deathwatch models...

[sick ledge]

what they do to death watch...

[silver thorn]

Oh man...

Oh

the army is gone

it got beastman'd

[sick ledge]

yep

called it

[silver thorn]

So

the new codex for Imperial Agents

has 4 deathwatch datasheets

and everything else is legends

tbh I think the kill teams going legends is 100% a good thing for the game beacuse their rules just werent fun to play with or against

as cool as they were

[visual turret]

looking at this

that's the moon

and - a skitarii radium pistol

[silver thorn]

Neat

[visual turret]

PLEASE be a skitarii kill team box with tau vespids

there was another teaser dropped that was pretty blatantly a vespid

[silver thorn]

I know 100% its Jump Tempestus Scions and vespids

likely stormboyz

and then a 4th isnt confirmed yet

[sick ledge]

tbh these army removal things just kill peoples want to play the game

[silver thorn]

but I saw some good reasoning it will be flying tyranids

[silver thorn]

It wouldnt be so mad if the Ordo Xenos detachment, which specializes in Deathwatch, let you take 25% points of space marines units

I love Deathwatch Aggressors

[sick ledge]

the problem is that people invested heavily in these armies and now you cant even bring those models to tournaments

[silver thorn]

Yea, it really sucks. That waid, you can still 100% play deathwatch models as Gladius space marines

and you can ally in the veterans from Imperial Agents

[sick ledge]

and they just released stuff for deathwatch too

[silver thorn]

but they get no stratagems

so no armour of contempt

Also you cant have the shield on the sargeant so I had to pry the arm off my sargeant and put the combi weapon on instead

[sick ledge]

I have a ton of armies I should just sell since I dont know what army they'll get rid of next

do you have a link to the armies that got oofed?

[silver thorn]

Its just deathwatch for now.

and as I said you can still use the models

they are just worse

[visual turret]

Son of Macragge

[silver thorn]

Ultra

[wary sonnet]

Can someone tell me what's the best kill team?

Which also doesn't break fingers when painting?

[oblique socket]

Define best

[rare hornet]

Ork Commandos are pretty decent last time I checked

[oblique socket]

How are Kasrkin? Because that’s the one i’m gonna be making

[brisk vapor]

Progress on the trims

[devout lake]

Spook

[short pawn]

I mean not really no. You can just use deathwatch marines as space marines

Because they're just space marines

with different cosmetics

[sudden crypt]

Aren't most tournaments wysiwyg?

[short pawn]

Deathwatch full armies are still possible though

irregardless of proxy or anything they're just treated like a minor chapter now with no specific faction rules - if im not mistaken

[silver thorn]

kill teams is fairly balanced, but command point has some decent tier lists that are updated regularly with decent commentary on them

I dont really watch that channel I just used their discord to find some games on TTS

but the tier list videos were decent at helping me pick teams to play

rule of thumb though is 'compendium teams' are bad and 'bespoke teams' are good.

[vale breach]

Anyone know how to get masse's of single Nurgling's?

Don't have acsess to a 3d printer

and 7 quid on ebay for one is insane

I'm looking to make a sea of nurglings for my nurgle Knight :)

[brisk vapor]

The Nurglings kit is probably your best choice, I doubt it's too difficult to separate the few stuck together in it

it also has singles

[vale breach]

Yeah I was thinking that

I could also just use more nurglings as their own model for my army hahah

also just gonna use peices form a Great unclean one and my beasts of nurgling to flesh it out

[jaunty trail]

Done.

[brisk vapor]

Hell yeah

best space buggy

[jaunty trail]

Those Rocket launchers are sick

can crush transports & tanks with them

and this transport may take a whole squad of cthonian berzerks aswell...

mechanized melee ^^

[white shore]

Was looking at getting the other one is it worth it?

[brisk vapor]

I'll probably get the Malleus one just for painting I feel

The flavour in these box sets is immaculate

[white shore]

I think eversor assassin is my favourite model

[rare hornet]

I am torn between the missiles or the autocannon myself

[jaunty trail]

The MATR Autocannon?

[jaunty trail]

If you mean the MATR... just don't stats are not good

[rare hornet]

I play 9th, it’s pretty good there

And it’s fun to say

[jaunty trail]

Have built 3 of the 4 Weaponry choices

But Missle Launcher stonks in 10th

you can seriously damage tanks & transports with that launchers

[rare hornet]

The launcher is very nice in all circumstances

[jaunty trail]

But that HyLas cannon is also badass in 10th

[rare hornet]

Eh, the las never interested me

[jaunty trail]

If you ever play 10th ED: Just take a mix of that Las & Missle launchers

just f*** tanks with transports

[rare hornet]

We’ll see what happens if I ever move over to 10th

[wary sonnet]

Hide your choir boys.

[jaunty trail]

Neat

Now face my mechanized Infantry + Anti Tank Black Templars XD

[wary sonnet]

Aren't Black Templars just imperial World Eaters?

[jaunty trail]

Nope

[rare hornet]

That’s blood angels

[jaunty trail]

they are zealots

so they crusade shit out of chaos

[wary sonnet]

Blood angels don't exclusively fight with melee.

At least, not in such great numbers.

[rare hornet]

Going back to 9th they actually loved melee

[jaunty trail]

Like BT very melee focused

[wary sonnet]

Well, I tuned my kid touchers to be more on the ranged side.

Though, they can also hurt you up close.

[rare hornet]

Weirdly moreso than Templars, when you looked at the rules the Templars were just better at charging

[wary sonnet]

Possessed, raptors, a terminator squad with a heavy flamer...

[jaunty trail]

Yep

[wary sonnet]

Then there are the havocs, the legionnaires and a gunner helbrute.

I could also deploy a squad of either rubrics or berzerkers.

[rare hornet]

Don’t get me wrong, you wanted to melee with Templars, but when you compared it to the +1 to wound in melee the BA got they were definitely lacking comparatively speaking

[wary sonnet]

I wish that you could use daemons with a CSM army.

Like, actual daemons, not possessed units.

[rare hornet]

Did they stop that?

It used to be a thing in the indexes I swear?

[wary sonnet]

As far as I know, only non-CSM units that can be attached are the redditors, dust cans and rageheads.

[jaunty trail]

@wary sonnet this is 90% what i could field if i wanted to...

[rare hornet]

Have a check on the daemons rule index, that’s where it used to be

[wary sonnet]

Dang.

Quite a collection.

[wary sonnet]

Yeah, it's there.

[jaunty trail]

There are missing 2x Apothecarys 1x Chaplain 2x Squad Firstborn Crusaders 1x Techmarine and 1x Castellan

[jaunty trail]

Painted in 1.5 years 🤣

[wary sonnet]

Nice.

[jaunty trail]

And this is only my BT force

i also own Votann XD

[rare hornet]

Should be able to put some daemons in, but it’s only really as support

[wary sonnet]

Oh, and I neglected to mention the rhino.

[jaunty trail]

Perfect day for sitting at my minis... Thunderstorm with an actual warning of leaving any kind of building and it's one of my days off work...

[wary sonnet]

And also, this guy stomping on the reptile.

[tiny cairn]

GW needs to start doing GPU deals where if you buy a battle force box you get a CD key for a relevant game to your faction

[wary sonnet]

But that's ok, since salamanders can re-grow limbs.

[jaunty trail]

They currently have some AMD graphic cards and GPU deals where you can get Space Marine 2 but it's about spending 500€+ for those deals xD

[rare hornet]

Now THOSE are painting days

…unless you need to spray paint the minis…

[jaunty trail]

I'm pretty happy that i don't have to spray any minis atm

Vehicles are done for the moment

[rare hornet]

What’s next on the todo list?

[jaunty trail]

3 Ion blaster Hearthkyn Warriors

[rare hornet]

Sounds simple enough

[jaunty trail]

And after that:

1x Comemorative Kahl
1x Comemorative Einhyr Champion
1x Squad Hearthguard
2x Squad Hearthkyn Warriors
1x Apothecary Biologis
1x Squad Infernus Marines
1x Squad Aggressors
1x Cernobite Servitors from Grimaldus Box

[rare hornet]

I’ve gotta get these thunderkyn done, which from the looks of it might be this weekend, and then I get to dig into the combat patrol

[rare hornet]

Eyyy, I have that champion model

Think I put a picture in here somewhere?

[jaunty trail]

Could be

haven't seen it

[rare hornet]

Here it is

[jaunty trail]

Clean one!

[rare hornet]

Got to do transfers yet, but plan is to do them at the same time as the thunderkyn, because his kit never came with any

[jaunty trail]

Good choice

After i worked down that list (in the hope there will be no greater BT / LoV drop in near future) i will try to get hands on some Yaegirs, a Grimnyr and some Pioneers & Berzerks

[rare hornet]

Votann are on the cards according to a supposed roadmap picture

[jaunty trail]

Which Roadmap?

Current Roadmap is done as i know

Next 40k preview is on Saturday

[rare hornet]

This one,

I have absolutely no way to know or prove if it’s official or not, so don’t take this as gospel

[jaunty trail]

Where da heck is that source of that?!

[rare hornet]

Exactly, someone posted it in a groupchat I’m in, so for now I’d say it’s not confirmed

[tiny cairn]

Looks like an official leak

[rare hornet]

The only thing we have to go off of is that the blood angels matches up

[jaunty trail]

Looks like lots of photo shop

[rare hornet]

Take it with a grain of salt for the time being

[short pawn]

Heard this one was mad fake

[rare hornet]

Yeah I would assume so

[jaunty trail]

(source: https://spikeybits.com/warhammer-40k/codex-release-dates/)

[short pawn]

I believe it is too because there's a zero percent chance imperial guard is getting their codex before 2025

[rare hornet]

Basically just assume it’s fake until GW say otherwise

[jaunty trail]

(source: https://spikeybits.com/warhammer-40k/codex-release-dates/)

So no current news on Codex roadmap

I wait for Saturday

[rare hornet]

Exactly why I say best to wait for GW to say

We might see a roadmap at this weekend’s reveals

[jaunty trail]

I hope so... If they "dodge" a second part of a roadmap many people will be mad... but wait... anyways they will be mad if their favourite faction isn't dropped soonish 🤣

[rare hornet]

I’d just like my heresy Thursdays to come back

[jaunty trail]

I just want that roadnap... even if LoV and BT going to be last drop i will be fine... But a double drop would be harsh for my money balance tbh 🤣

[rare hornet]

I’m just glad I have the combat patrol as it is, it’s perfect for what I need

[jaunty trail]

Lookin' on that i have more than i need....

🤣

but i want to have 2 f*** huge armies

so...