#40k-minis-and-armies
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probably its that
like rotten eggs or fireworks
Maybe
so when you're taking paint onto your brush do you wipe away any of the excess? How much do you leave on the bristles when going in to paint the surface of the model
you could experiment with wiping away more than you're used to thus far, especially when going in with thinner paints
too thin too much will just pool everywhere and leave splotchy results
Yeah that's what i was suffering from
But also after it went away it also created texure
Dont get me wrong i fully accept im doing something terribly wrong i just really dont know how to fix it
I was using castellan green and it would like instantly be too thin and pool+be splotchy but also create texture even when i barely interact with it
I'll probably try less water in my wet pallete but i feel like i didnt have much
Maybe my phone camera just zooms in too much or makes me hyper focus on little imperfections idk
if you mean the texture on the karskin model above it looks a bit like it managed to dry slightly and then you returned to the same area before it was fully dried thus causing some texture buildup with your brush. Other than that it just looks like it needs another layer because the paint isn't perfectly opaque
I think you solved it and i feel really dumb because i do absolutely do that sometimes
I am gonna try less water i think though because the castellen green is super runny when its on my wet pallete

Then I would suggest Tommie Soule's book. He also talks about that milk concept and provides an alternative to achieve a smooth paint application
This thiccening continues
Also don't forget some paints are just natural thinner than others so it's most by feel. As for removing paint, remove it on your nail as it has about 0 texture to it so you dont have to worry about texture removing more paint than wanted
Smöl boi
Finally finished my Infernus Salamanders
Salamanders on their way to char every xeno orphanage they see then saving a human kid from the ashes to take a picture with:
Love the green you chose! So vibrant yet beautiful
pardon me but gonna be a bit of a stickler here, all paints are naturally the same viscosity until they put the rheology modifier into it. Its about as thin as ink
Options, so many options...
The leman russ is the best kit GW ever made imo for optional loadouts
We have achieved maximum CHONK
Has anybody used vallejo water texure before?
Nope
yes
I'm wondering if i bought the wrong one by accident
I wanna make bloody/muddy puddles
no you just need to mix in some transparent blood red like color if you want blood(i have a mixture if you want it).
for mud its the same but you might want something slighly more opaque
you cant mix much in though
I doubt i got the paints for your mixtures
probably not but its nice to have ideas around since a few are useful for other things
like transparent red iron oxide is great for rust
I doubt i got the paints for your mixtures
Sorry i lost service
I am so sorry lmfao
Oh what for me i ping messaged you like 15 times
But yeah shoot i love ideas
it only sent twice even so it never bothers me
My basic one is just transparent red iron oxide and anthraquinone red. So you caan use flesh tearers (?) red and transparent red iron oxide to get a similar effect
transparent red iron oxide I think needs to make it to my every day palette
I will have this on my shopping list
whats his name
its so cute
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
Did some improvements on the Reaver I finished early this year
One message removed from a suspended account.
Love it mate
@sick ledge Is there any way to help GW metallics to get smoother results? Im not sure if my paints are just drying out or something, but as time goes on, the harder if find them to use. Nearly always end up creating a texture.
windsor and newton flow improver. If you want I can make a video showing the ways of thinning and fixing problematic metallic paints
since its all a bit of a mess to fix them sometimes
Nice, considering im already getting that product. If its complex, a video or explanation would be appreciated.
yeah I'll dm you the video once its up
I wouldnt call it super complicated
its just a lot of explaining and visual aids help a lot
Just making sure. This is the one right?
yes
mine has an older label on it
I painted night lords land raider
Sometimes I dream about minitures I don't own yet.
Holy crap that looks nice
Thanks put extra effort into them slower process but worth it
HQ Kriegsmen captain, and trying NMM first time, i think i did pretty good
Any advice on getting the chaos marine helmet slimmed down so he's not so slanted?
dig out the base and make it look like its shoved into mud or something
Wait you're absolutely right im dummy
I was literally gonna put it on a muddy battlefield anyways
Can def just cut into it and submerge
perfect
Also i tried out the water and i love it, i wanna try and get it a little more brown so im gonna mix some sepia ink into it
Ignore the massive puddle that looks like semen
I just plastered it on to see what'd it do
stop coming on your minis
just as long as there isnt a pony in them
Good shit
His coat got a raw beef look to it
Got done with another kriegsmen
ty
Keep shaving it off with a file untill you get apropriate height. You can also flatte. The top of the helmet till the foot sits flat
Yeah i did that i felt like a genius
I dug into my cork basing thing a bit and cut out his piping so I can fit the guys foot snugly
Now i get to prime my wheel of corpses and other knick knacks
The two bottom puddles dried out so well
Is blutack safe to use on your minis to segment off/mask portions or protect corners or for any other use? Or does it damage the paint? Ive been using it for ages and i have never had it pull off any paint but i just read that it could. Can anyone speak on this?
haven't had any issues with it pulling paint
I was recently stripping a big part of my mini that ive been painting for a while now. I got blutack everywhere so i could manhandle the mini without worry about chipping. I really got it in there as well as before this i had a disaster where i rushed it and alchohol got into areas that i didnt want to. When pulling the tac off it was really stuck to it. I payed it no mind and just got it all off by using a ball of tac. Now im reading that it has the potential to pull off paint and that potential now has me paranoid about using blutack
But then again, ive only heard people say that it can do it. Never actually seen anyone on the internet say that it did.
Actually i remember blutack pulling off some paint. But that was from an area that already had some paint chipped.
Returned to these fellers and gave them an oil weathering pass
oh god DAMN those look great, nice proper job
Appreciate it!
mine aren’t great but i’ll find a picture
Itty bitty little things
Hell yeah
I like the scheme
thanks
i can try and find a better picture but i’m about 4000 miles away from home right now
i mean here’s some thousand sons
very cool
Sexy buff magnus
his armour looks too goofy
remember there’s this picture from a game i played once
(kill team)
it doesnt damage paint normally
I've used it
its not great for it
but it works in a pinch
I use siliputty more often
Yeah blu tac is fine its just gonna render the blu tac itself kinda unusable after a few coats of paint in my experience
I just realized that I tried to paint 6 fingers on my guardsman
And never once did it click in my head that thats a pinkie
He's just a genestealer
TRUEEE
He's a mutant
Found the store exclusive cap for 23 usd. He may be built but I'm pretty hyped
they even based him for you
Any suggestions on a white primer?
What kind of white you need? A pure bright white or more a grey off white?
you could always go with wraithbone
Colour forge Matt white for a white scars colour or ghoul grey for a grey seer
Only in US so no colour forge. Rustoleum it shall be! And a brighter white
just visited the store myself
rustoleum
they make most of the hobby sprays anyways
just say he's polydactyl
jesus
Ive just recently realised how gunked up my GW pots were and thus i think a lot of my paints have started to dry. Is there anything i could add to the paint to revitalize it a bit?
Yeah. The issue isnt really with normal paints. Ive gotten a flowimprover now so i can play around with that but its mainly the metallics and shades. You cant really add too much water to metallics as they will just not work as well to my knowledge. I took a break from painting and left my pots be, and so i think they may have dried out a bit. Metallic and shades got it the worst. My shades are super gloopy and they dry more glossy than normal. My metallics just feel strange to paint with. I have to be super careful to not create texture as well with them. ive also shaken my paints for ages and no real difference. I also added balls.
But then i just thinned the shades with a bit of medium and theyre fine. Now its just the metallics.
oh man thats funny, I always want to get just one model from different ramy, give him lasgun and guard helmet and call him something like "Hugh Man"
heh do it. its fun. i have a gryph hound i use as my platoon leader called "colonel cawson"
The empire strikes back? 😆
Something's wrong with my bolter...
?
Sorry, your theme reminded me of the fight on Endor, which is Return of the Jedi and not strikes back.
am guessing because they kinda look like the rebels
Good stuff, please don't take it as criticism.
i mean its a bit of a stretch. their just generic camoflauge so i guess
Fixed it
oh i like what you did with this, what army is it for?
Hello y’all! First time posting here and my first post is going to be this Plasma and OSL glow I just did for the very first time 
Sniper!!!
Just started working on this recently. Only just put the initial colours on before I layer and shade areas
Update: Near completion on this Sallie Hellblaster but I think I did a little too much OSL on the shoulder pad. Going to fix that and then finish the rest of the model before applying decals
an alliance steelhelm 
Well, I can’t deny the Steelhelms are good to hijack for D&D fighter usage.
Alliance, or in my case, Ultramar influenced XD.
(I can imagine a Feudal World doing this to mimic Ultra colours)
Would you like some critique?
yes please, I could use some honest feedback
The blue eyes get drowned out a little so doing a half mask would bring out the one eye a bit more aand make the other eye read as its blue
glazing over the backpack after you paint it will also help sell the OSL the reason why you want to glaze it after painting is to represent distance of the light so the glow fades more the farther the distance. Not super realistic but close enough
remember that light stop harshly not soft which you can see from the shadows so adding some hard cuts in there can help sell it as osl which I draw on the shoulder pad so kind of show that
Sorry if I seem too harsh
all good
I did ask for honest feedback
as long as it’s honest even if it’s sounds harsh
I'm still not looking to kill someones good mood
there is a lot more you can do too but I dont know your skill level
or what you're trying to do like tabletop standard or just practicing new technique or what not
I'm not good at painting myself but I have an art degree and with in the coatings industry so I have to have some grasp on how light interacts with pigments for my job
I’m just starting out on my painting journey
I do paint, but it’s just from time to time
since i’m mostly busy with IRL stuff
I’m currently on summer break and I’m working alongside my father for the entire summer so I barely have any time to focus on my minis
The extreme heat in my area has increased my work load since now I have to test autocoatings for direct sunlight heat of 55c+
yesterday was 14 hours straight
dang
outside
in the heat
Thank fuck im not white
I would have become a sundried tomato like my coworker
my father would usually bring a whole bag of water but everytime we always run out not even halfway through the day
I had to buy a cooler which the only one I could get was $150
so that sucked
I'm taking the weekend off so I can record some stuff
thankfully only my boss complained and I dont do what he says or care what he says
nice
CEO told me specifically not to do what he says since I have a quicker and better process than the standard
Still do ASTM stuff to spec though
i see
Anyways want a tip for thinning metallics?
flow improver from a professional brand
i don’t get it 
hobby stuff uses 2butoxy ethanol which isnt a surfactant its a solvent that makes paints dry faster
its cheaper than actual wetting agents
Windsor and newton is the one I tend to get and that used alcohol ethoxylate which is a wetting agent and causes the surface tension of water to break
which breaking the surface tension of water is the key to metallics
I tend to avoid hobby stuff since I know whats in it which means it wont work for what I do
made my zealot main :>
Hell yeah
Ooh amazing! Love to see characters remade into minis
Is the hood a shoulder pad?
No it’s from the new terminator kit. It’s the inside of the termie hood on the front torso piece.
It looks kinda like crap, but I think it gets the idea across
it's also like 20 years old
in the US
more curious if the store has a website
sadly no
fuck
if have him send the cash and ill mail it
not worries about shipping
hell I'll do it 50% off
I can get shipping label from my job
they dont give a fuck if I do personal shipments as long as I dont abuse it
Yeaah i'll DM you once he messages me back
bet
i finished base coating
WIP
White scars baby
i got more paints
Wip update on Hekaton Land Fortress...
honestly that would be nice for kitbashes
word?
If you needed chaos/khorne bodies let me see if I can find the picture
Old next to new
oh my
If you want bodies
It uses the old thing tactical marines do
Legs arms and heads are all separate
ah
Mud dried out really good i love it (ignoring the big puddle i was testing what happens if i do a big haphazard goop)
Anybody got any ideas on doing a splash/ripple effect?
Hell yeah, nice
Metal af Tym
Naravesh Nosferrus, Screecher of my Claw of the Dread Gheists
Love the white
You too Tim 🤝
We got the same pronunciation for the name jsut diff spelling, basically means we're brothers right?
Splendid, brother
I have never seen a Tym before though, i have to admit
Good way of spelling it though, one of the best ways honestly
Thank you thank you, it's not my full name but it's easy for people (I'm polish)
color shaper and gel medium
Tonk
Slowly but steady...
Got a super cheap makeup airbrush for base coasting,
anyone know why my inks seem to be applying really poorly? I was under the impression inks were easier to use in an airbrush than regular acrylics but it seems to not want to adhere at all and pools like crazy in recesses
Contrast paint goes on no issues but the inks not so much, do I need an "I'm makin' 'em at night" medium or whats the deal here
This is huge size difference
because inks need a very low psi
like 5 psi
maybe 10
also what brand of inks?
Classic
its the enforcer skin we all deserved 😭
Finally getting into painting my guard
blue is a yummy color
Blue flavored guardsmen
Was a black/blue vallejo ink
Selling my painted ork kill team on ebay if anyone's interested
Does anyone here play TT kill team and normal TT
I just bought an Army and now trying to find a place to play. Sense 40k isn't big in my area I have to drive an hour and change to find a game
Commitment to the cause
Im assuming the hobby ones. Yeah those are are part of the problem. They took their professional stuff and cut it with a bunch of water
That makes sense it did seem super watery, think I might have had a bit of cleaner loaded into the chamber that didn't fully clear beforehand also so I imagine that exacerbated it a bit
yeah hobby inks are not great and low in cpvc but being able to legally claim high pigmentation since its like 80% solvent
There's an art supply store selling multi-packs of Monte Marte inks but I imagine they have a similar quality issue to the hobby paints right?
Liquitex/Golden are the quality ones iirc right?
and holbein
Liquitex arent great in an airbrush so you need to add a little binder
monte marte I cant comment on since they arent really here where I am'
Yeah I think they're an Australian brand, I remember them always having super cheap stuff that's surprisingly high quality but it was more pencils and stuff I grew up using rather than paints
Dunno if it translates at all
Anyone have any recommendations for magnification glasses?
Trying to paint some of our glorious aquatic best friends forever Moebian 21st, anyone else tried to paint them or got any suggestions on if these colours fit or know any colours that will work better?
reading glasses
those magnifiers everyone keeps recommending cause your eyes to hurt bad since you have to go cross eyed for them to work and you dont notice and your peripheral vision screws with you too
If you have incredibly bad vision though neither will help much
the head mounted magnifiers will be better but a medical magnifying lens will be better but more expensive
I only need them to do the glint on the eyes as i struggle to see at that small of a scale.
Took a few months break from painting and this was my return back to it
wip part 3
how much ?
Dm'd you
Not 40k, but i kitbashed lady maria using an elf and a tricorne i got from a model kit :3
Its my first ever kitbash of any sort and im rly happy with it lol
OOOOOO, I havent seen HH Ultra marines yet!
I love it!
wait is that a company hero or a preator
Just saw a YouTube video saying Kill Team is dead and isn’t worth playing anymore as I’m new to 40k is it true ? Should I still invest in it ?
i personally love kill team and it’s primarily what me and my friends play
it’s easily the most affordable version of the tabletop game
what interests you in it?
the new killteam is not as popular as the older editions and it can get hard to find people to play it but I wouldnt call it dead
thats just ragebaiting
Nah it's not dead. It's actually a much better-designed game system imo I think GW are just reluctant to advertise it too aggressively bc of that
The only thing that keeps me interested in bighammer is the fact I can't field my magnus/kairos in kill team . Though my friends and I are trying to see if we can homebrew something that lets us use big models we're just struggling with map size/layout. Think I'm gonna be able to make the Lord of Change work though bc the plan was for it to play more like a top-down commander than an active unit. You've still gotta position it on the board but you can TP it around and it spawns brimstone horrors you can deep strike around the place and it gets an activation in response to every activation your opponent does. Gonna be hard to balance bc it's borderline introducing Knights into the format but I will find a way abandon bighammer if I'm able to
Also anyone used scale75 fluos? They're ridiculously cheap near me rn but I'm not sure if they're worth
As I said in another discord, talk to your local community. Here in NL middle earth is almost non existant, while it's apparently fairly popular in germany, so it would be pointless for me to watch videos from germany saying "middle earth is really thriving".
Went down to the GW store and talked to the guy there he said it’s booming currently and there’s been a few KT comps around recently
So what's the issue? Some fear/rage bait videos and vague rumors about warcry/kt refreshes coming shouldn't be as important as the reality of your local community.
It's why I don't watch certain youtubers across the pond moaning about gw every video (like uncle adam/atom)
I think KT is a good addition to 40K, my only gripes with it are that you notice the early versions of the game had some issues that they seem to have resolved in more recent versions, and perhaps when one side starts losing models a little quick (maybe a string of some unlucky saves) it can be kinda hard to come back from that
At least from my experience
Oh yeah pretty sure it was one of his videos lol
Those symbols and the writing on the skin loincloth are clean. Nice.
or loinskin i guess
Actually that sounds a lot worse than i meant it to

Most of them aren't fluorescent
yeah, fielding a whole army of tanks is just too much fun
finished building ursula creed
They're also a lot quicker so it's not like you are stuck in a day affair of losing for 2 hours more than needed
Yeah exactly
There's nothing worse than playing a mid army in big hammer, and your one gimmick doesn't work so now you are stuck playing out the rest of the game knowing that you are done for
Quite liking the outcome so far
I forgot how small Votann are
my brother in (insert warhammer diety here), they are dwarves
Yes, but I’ve only build the champion so far which is quite a chunky boi
They are dwarves after all
I’ve never seen the in a size compared before anyways
Love the little sigils
Still trying to offload my killteam before the move 😭
Plus the kitty getting sick...
this year hasnt been kind to you
Well if its any solice I have two mars 4s now
so if you need one I can cut you a good deal on one after you move
Tell me about it, it's just one thing after the other, maybe one day I'll catch a break and be abke to rebuild my savings
I'm trying to sell the kill team for around 125. Not a crazy amount but it's better than nothing
Seeing as it's my best work paint wise
The curse of cali
Fighting against hordes of Khonrites as a Grey Knights on the waffle house
Weta, you've outdone yourself
Finished 2 more kriegsmen
Painted my first ever mini today, i'll wait til it dries so i can correct any mistakes
It'll probably look better when i go over it with a shade paint
And correct the shoulderpads
looks good for a first go!!
The frame has been started
Wip update on firstborn apothecary kitbash with kromlech conversion parts... base decorations as also some minor things left to do...
A trustworthy guy
New mini paints.
Most of these haven't been made since the 60s
Great freehand, Clean af Word Bearer
Raaa
this guy is preparing to ruin an entire squad's day, be it the enemy's by blowing them up or his own when he blows up
Yep
-# creating crowd control! *grenade ding*
hey whats the trick to good yellow again? isn't it painting it over......... purples?
WHO CALLED FOR A BOOM
never enough grenades
Pink iirc, or a brown
Is that a flamer with an underbarrel chainsword
Hekaton wip update
Ayyyyy loving the Votann
Thunderkyn?
hell yeah
Still need those... but currently i have too much minis left... so no new buys
I've been wanting to ask some questions regarding this vehicle lately
Ask
Make sure you don't glue the weapon on otherwise you'll never be able to paint half the mini
No
I see
Did some competing again, bronze in group and silver in vehicle categories at the largest national painting competition 
Weapons are all not glued to vehicle
Sorry, meant for the thunderkyn
Because it wouldn't likely be a valid option unless if it is made out of rubber like material
Its more like that the vehicle doesn't roll by itself when playing the tabletop
I can just imagine someone pushing it across the table with movable tires
Yup and thats why the tires are not made to rotate.. Also same thing on Sagitaur
now you have to paint the awards

That did cross my mind as an entry for the next year's competition
The winning entries
And you’re telling me they came second and third?
Love your weathering
which competition?
Also you didnt get gold so not good enough
something something ego something
either way congrats on the wins
gonna pop your nuts with a mallet!
kinky
thanks I try
Tanks third and plane secon
Thanks!
Just proves there's no justice in this world, that they only got second and third
Ropecon miniature painting competition 2024: Cold North Open
and thanks
its genuinely something impressive
brother is almost inspiring me to paint but its just not possible rn 
Cheers, my second time competing, last year I got bronze with the Cursed City Skeletons I entered to group category
dammit the pictures of the competition arent up yet
yeah the awards ceremony ended like 4 hours ago, most are still heading home etc
Well i'm excited to see it
last year the pics were up in like a week or so
People who went there last time said I should've been there, claimed I'd placed there easily 😄
possibly
Wait you'd know this one
Kirril's name I cant remember it
I think his name is kirril
or somthing
its that russian dude
Kirill Kanaev?
He’s getting there
99% done..
I genuinely thought this was a rendered drawing for a moment until I saw the background
Dematro Agean, Incursor Marksman of my Silver Skulls Phobos Strike Squad
thats actually really cool
That's such a fun and fluff thing to do
ye
Hekaton ready for battle.
Today will be a brush and set up cleaning day. Worked on two of these and wrists and fingers need a break
The three battleforce boxes look pretty cool too
The Malleus one looks particularly attractive. A squad of Grey Knights Terminators and a Culexus Assassin? That's pretty awesome
so what does this meaan exactly? just random things that can be thrown into imperial armies or?
they had a lot of words that I didnt read because I barely understand how to play the game
inquisition shit was basically just stuff you could add as allies to your 40k imperium armies - now you can have an army built upon that aspect of combining imperium factions and inquisition. Something like that
It adds requisitioned units to the assigned agents rule but is also giving you the opportunity to make an entire Inquisitorial army
was I close
yeah, these two explained it pretty well. You now have a proper way to make a inquisitorial force and you can add them to imperial armies of old
neat
would that mean I can throw in a random elite to my knights army if I have the points and not have some weird rule that screws me over?
I am in love with this release
didn't read the article with that much focus but I recon you have a set amount of units or points you can have imperial agents among your imperial army
You can make rogue trader armies, Ordo minors, arbities, assassin spam
Yeah, if you have an army that has the Imperial keyword, you can add one leader and their unit to your army for every thousand points
When the new codex comes you can also add one requisitioned unit
@brisk vapor I have a question for you. Paint the lenses on the knight eyes like normal, do LEDs, or do both?
Not a fan of LEDs tbh
I've yet to see one IRL with a good looking execution with one
I am because I use them to trigger UV reactive coatings
Seen plenty of cool ideas online but taking pics or video of them always looks off so can't say if they look better IRL
mono white with a glaze will do a color but trigger the UV reactive glow of some pigments
My chapter is under the direct command of the Ordo Astra, so running them as death watch is still fitting
To the point the chapter master plays second fiddle to the inquisitor
that sounds like a neat idea
yeah you have to actually know what you're doing with the camera and use the correct filter
its much harder than people think it is
My landlord's SO is a fulltime photographer so I have them teach me a lot about this stuff
neat
Very lucky for that
dudes helping me rig a weird thing for my microscope so I can get footage with a mirrorless without hassle and not having to have a trinocular model
this is entirely so I can detect dyes to some extent
that's nice
Normal lamp
UV lamp
Mono white led
No extra lighting
This is old so it's a bit faded and doesn't really pop as much
I see I see
Completed my killteam
If I do it with something like perinone orange it will have a better effect
so you'd have the eyes of the knight be these LEDs and have reactive paint somewhere else on the model for the effect
Yes
I use the UV reactive pigment for osl
So it will enhance the orange eyes
And then I can also paint the eyes like normal so I can get a double pop
And it will act as a filter so it won't be as bright
Which means the camera won't have as many issues
right
Mix that with that NIR for shading the metallics and it will give the shadows a much more realistic harsh shadow to the LEDs don't screw things up from some weird thing that could happen like a random gap
Pigment science yo
Such a bizarre thing to use for painting minis
But this is the style I choose

Quick question - does anyone play Cursed City?
If you do, how well does Jelsen Darrock’s gun scale to any 30k/40k era human minis?
I am eyeing his gun for conversion purposes…
he is a bit larger in scale than normal humans in 40k but they might fit them fine
if the kit is a more modern one
can't check because our Jelsen is at my friend's place
Thanks 🙏
3 days no hit
magnetization is quite easy for chaos, just did it myself 👀
(lost half of the scourge but not the flail half)
I'm considering a kitbash that has a crushing roller in the front. So far the only 3 kits I can think of that have one are the slaanesh seeker chariot, death guard plague drone, and the ork battlewagon. Can anyone think of any other ones?
Check bloodbowl too
What bloodlowl kit has a large cylindrical crusher?
Snorting
Snotlings*
Wait so are you looking for the vehicle that took squidward's life or what
I give up on painting white man
Painted the bazooka on my Mk.2 gundam, and even after 3 coats It came out rough and streaky
Kinda, yes
Fair enough
how long did you wait between each coat?
I think I found the issue, my ax is broken and it was like 105 today, couldn't find my wet pallete so I just used a dry pallete
I assume the paint dried too quickly
probably
105 is way too hot to paint in
60-80 is optimal
Although it's cooler tonight, aired the house out and used my wet pallete and put 2 more thin coats on
It won't win any painting competitions but it looks okay at a distance
good enough is still good enough
As my dad says, Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good
Is this the new edition of T'au battlesuits?
Vastly cheaper lol
Have a guy at locals who plays tau exclusively with his gunpla collections
Is there any way to try and reduce the sort of chalkiness of a paint? If that even makes any sense
mix a good paint into it
what paint are you using?
Wraithbone mainly, but i had it with cadian fleshtone as well.
so those contain chalk
a friend asked me to paint some older world eaters for him :3
this is one of the worst painted bloodbowl teams ive ever seen
oh, lol
get golden soflat titanium white. It really is that much better. Everyone who uses it including proacryl stans never swap back
well some proacryl stans
Ive met proacryl people who say the paints are 80% pigment and the silver is shinier and out performs spectrachrome
naw that skin tone is one of the worst ones ive seen in years but I swear mini painters have no idea what flesh looks like nor have they ever seen a black person
the skin tone is harsh and garish which causes a major negative contrast with the lemon party cosplay
That's under the implication that every miniature painter is specifically trying to do an art style that's realistic or grounded, no?
eavy metal is an extremely unrealistic art style
If i was to take a gw paint, thin it down with medium to a consistency of a gw shade, then place it specifically only into recesses, would i get a similar result if i was to do the same but with an actual gw shade?
Not 1:1 but pretty close
No. Basically the problem I have is how the community reacts to things that arent copies of the "greats" like Jose "DaVinci" and what not. Youtubers promote this style as the only acceptable style a lot of the time too which they unwittingly cause people to become very vitriolic when you do something different
Its a problem i see a lot in a lot of communities
Its not in this section of this discord
but I see it in tons of others
That was not all translated with your sentence but i understand the general sentiment
Okay gang how does sixteen Carnifexes sound to you
yeah im awful with words without my meds
What’s everyone’s thoughts on slapcjop
Jesus Christ that’s not even subtle
its called scumbling and I will fight who ever says other wise as its been called scumbling for over 500 years.
My thoughts on it? People make it seem easier than it is so new painters fuck it up.
It's a low barrier of entry method of getting a tabletop-decent result quickly, but can also be used to greater effect with practice and studying proper art techniques. It really depends on what your goal is, but overal is a valid painting technique.
i know people who think its a high barrier to entry and think only advanced users can do it
I think its easy but I understand transparent pigments
Not the fucking proturbo
It used to be a giant meme back at some discord server
alongside with Angry Man
What the hell that’s just straight up warhammer models but a different company
Its a fun technique that can either be used at an entry level for speed painting or with a combination of techniques for an awesome paintjob
Love doing slapchop when I’m in a rush but then highlighting and tidying up with other paints to make it really pop
Do I go all out with my modification
Get rid of the cloak and put a spare sword here
Primaribooty
First termie in my career
One of many
Yep definitely going to assemble full sprue
awww yeah
lazy harder than it look's and doesn't create overall amazing models
This enough guns or nah?
yes always, replace the barrels with brass tubes, electroplate the sword or recast it in metal, mill out the vents and replace the filter blades.
no, needs more
You can never have enough dakka
death guard !!!!
I went to a painting thing at my FLGS and they had primaris marines, so i kitbashed him into a plague marine :3
He isnt finished tho yet
My mini house griffith collection so far definitely can see an improvement from the veletaris storm section to the lasrifle guys I just finished up
Babies first blanchitzu
Nearly done!!! Just working on adding some more fiddly bits :3
My first models arrived
I need more orks
I've always though that they were a bit bigger lol
Yea, you get that feeling a lot at first
Compared to other minis like guard for example, marines are big
But yeah, when the pictures never really give you any scale reference it’s hard to know
Oh I know that guard are small
It's just that I never realised that they are gonna be that small lol
I'm glad that I've gone with SM first then lol
And a quick question, if I primed ove the arm attachment point, do I have to remove the primer from there when I'm going to be gluing them on, or not?
Plastic glue melts the paint, you might just have to hold it in place for like 20 seconds?
Most you got to be careful of is if any glue seeps out the side of the joint you will have to let it dry and then paint back over it
Okay, thank you
This heavily depends on the chemical compounds of the primer. If its a real primer then yes but you'll need a sander as actual primer fuses into plastic to provide a textured non-absorbent layer for oils and specific types of resins be it alkyd or acrylic copolymers.
If it's a hobby primer, these arent actually primers but in reality cheap industrial spray paint with fancy colors.
Paint+primer is a marketing term as mediums that are organic units with carbamate links will adhere to almost any surface without the need for a primer due to their surface tension.
that being said hardware store spray paint is chemically identical to hobby sprays and house paint is chemically identical to hobby paint. If citation is needed I can provide around 50gb of pdfs as sources
||this is my job btw so im a bit insane and my autism picked paint and pigments||
that being said any paint can cause issues with adherence for plastic glues
do you need to remove it? no not really. Should you? probably
also pardon the chemistry stuff. I kind of get excited and over explain it a lot
gonna comlpain real quick, omg only painting OSL looks really bad
like only the lighitng
Okay, thanks, it's a tamiya spray primer btw
here is an example form an old ass article.
Basecoat is (I think) done
I need to get thinning the paint just right cause sometimes it comes out too thin, sometimes too thick I think
oo whicj blue is that?
Maccrage
nice! i didnt realize how idfferent it was to ultramarine bleu
I think that my phone camera and lighting in my room may be screwing with how it looks cause it's really warm
Would a bit of medium do something?
thats a nylon based automotive alkyd acrylic. You will need to scrape that off.
Which yes you can get automotive spray paint and it will be the same but this also means tamiya is of a much higher quality than most others
it generally looks awful because they only use opaque paints then claim they glaze when its no where close to an actual glaze
using actual transparent paints fix the osl issue
Oh could I see an example?
depends on the type of medium but maybe
I dont have anything thats finished but a wip if thats fine
the osl is just a base layer and nothing completed
WIP is good
Okay, thank you very much
It's good to be sure
has anybody ever been to a warhammer cafe?
how bad of a case of lead poisoning should I expect from a drink
now I'm not going to claim this looks good but this is the basic idea but it needs to be dialed back a lot
OOOOO yeha I like that a lot
I also have TMM effects that enhance natural shadows while retaining a clear shading effect but its not as harsh so it reflects light more naturally so it looks better on a 3d axis
but thats using weirdo pigment science
I’m just sick of people using 3 colors, dry brushing red or what ever on one spot
And it looks bad at every angle except one little angle
Call me hungry because im starving bro thats how OSL should be
I've seen mfs do that and cover the whole helmet like hes using a fucking spotlight
It’s like when competitive players use an air brush and spray the model 3 random colors and call it a day
Lore players are the only players worth considering
If i had the choice to have ugly models but win every game or lose every game but have gorgeous models im taking that second option
Unless its like...getting rolled...i dont want to get rolled every game
Yeah, also lore players buy more models and paint lmao
Then competitive
I'm going to be brutally honest and I'll put it in a spoiler so people dont have to see the negativity I'm about to post
||I do not think mini painters tend to be good at painting as they don't know the even slightest about basic color theory but the big names claim that they do. The big names still use the Itten theory which is 120 years out of date and doesnt work with modern pigments at all. They also don't understand how light works, claim that canvas and mini painting are two completely different things while using concepts for 2d only techniques and misunder standing books like James Gurreny's Light and shadow which is an amazing book but only if you have a more advanced understanding of art and you do what the book requires, you build your own 3d model from a wire armature thats built the same as the skeleton and then you build it up from the muscle structure of the lifeform.
This stuff frustrates me heavily as an art major where I get told i'm wrong constantly when I literally have to know color theory at the physics level at some extent for my job. People love to try and prove I'm wrong by using mini painting "experts" as sources and then they don't bother to even listen to a 50 minute long lecture from an actual expert like Dr. Briggs because "this works just fine for me" when they don't even realize that color mixing is based around something called the kubelka-munk theory which proves color mixing isnt on a straight axis but on curves. Color charts are also grossly misleading because colors don't work on a 2d field they actually require a 3d model to understand them and how they work, the 2d boards are ok for quick reference but thats all. Also you don't require a fucking color wheel since all of them are wrong anyways.
The other thing that frustrates me is the fact opacity trumps transparency when it comes to paints due to the misconception of paints being higher quality when they are opaque when generally it means they are much lower quality||
I can teach you its actually very easy
anyways that felt good to get off my chest
ive been bottling that in for almost a decade now from scale modelers and about 5 years from warhammer painters
Anyways for something more light hearted
a fun link about colors
I think knowing color theory and all that is fine, but it’s not needed. My problem is big artist than only paint OSL act like they are the shit, and it’s a self perpetuating cycle of putting in no effort for a lot of pay off.
Thsi one artist I can’t remember his name pissed me off
He said mini painting is only emulating lightjng
When you do that, All your models will look the exact same
elminiaturista?
Is that him? It might have been another guy I don’t remember
He's the only people constantly overhype for his osl
And I don’t wanna bring names in
fair
I just think encouraging people to only do OSL is silly
it is
And only damages the hobby community
I dont think osl is required
For years OSL was only slightly used
Like ‘oh plasma cool’
Then you see people charging thousands of dollars for armies that are literlaly 3 colors
Then on the board it looks like a pile of black goo
this community has a lot of things that damage it like the forced art style, the constant hugboxy praise with no good critiques when people ask for them, the constant "oh you're so good you should do commissions" to average at best painters who over saturate the market thinking they can make it a full time gig when the money isnt there for it, etc The "only do osl because its the only correct way" is part of the forced art style
I just really really hate when people try and push me into monetizing my hobby
I think the main difference between models and normal art is In warhammer, your models are 5 feet away on a giant ass table
I dont need another income source. I make more than most people do and i barely do any work when i'm there since 80% of the job is waiting for machines to finish
museum standards are "looks good from 2 feet away" which i find very funny
Your models don’t even need to look good they jsut need to be seeable
exactly
but those who want to get those showcase pieces are different
both should be acceptible
"only black bases look good aand thats the only color the base should be"
Fuck you, i'll paint them barbie pink if i want to. Don't tell me what to do with my art.
and that is why I paint most of my bases in weird neon colors
btw starwars hs rules saying the rim of your base has to be unqiue
annoying a rule forces me to do that but at the same time I like the rule
i think its to make sure you dont get amries mixed up
which makes perfect sense to me honestly since you're going to be painting them the exact same as lore anyways
yea, while there is always spac eto do your own thing your amries will still look very similar
I know nothing about starwars as I've never seen the game played or watched the shows/movies
but the game seemed to get a lot of people really excited
Yea I heard it’s good
The best way to describe it is like underworlds but a full war game
I don't bother with OSL at all
And it's more or less done, it just needs shading and maybe an edge highlight
I don't even really do edge highlights
I use a slightly glossy paint that catches light naturally
Looks neat
But I think I'm going to try to edge highlight first
Go for it
It's a personal preference for me
Find what you like to do and have fun with it
Understandable
I've wanted to get into painting for a long time but I've always was scared that I'd fuck up lol
Considering that the models can cost quite a bit I get you
Put a couple of hours into improving the face
Looks like an ultramarine to me
He's going to be one, yes
Well you’ve definitely got them down right
Question is, you gonna do black bolt rifle or red? Like their classic paint scheme
Black, maybe if I had classic tactical marines I'd go with red, but primaris go better with black I think
Thanks
Yeah fair enough, the red kinda needs a brighter blue
Leagues of votann combat patrol battle ready
Also got started on skaventide if we got any AOS fans here
I want to get into AoS now but I think I'm gonna wait for some cheaper starter sets
Mine arrived today, just got to paint my last two thunderkyn and I’ll give them a crack
The berserks are ones I really look forward to painting
What army? If stormcast or skaven you can buy their half on ebay real cheap, about 1200 points for 70-80 pounds (or regional money equivalent)
Painting rhem was pretty fun with my skin I chose and their axes were great to layer up but fair warning, one of the worst kits I've ever built
They're so incredibly fiddly with their backpack wires
Idk the thunderkyn might give you a run for that title
Oh thanks for the info
They're sitting in a box downstairs, dreading it lmao
Honestly it’s not too bad, you’re gonna want to sub assemble the hell out of them though
I also have it on good authority we're getting chaos dwarfs this edition so if that's maybe up your alley you could just wait and get that too, otherwise start with any spearhead vox for sure, spearhead is fun
Personally praying for a new BIG warcry box myself with proper terrain, I missed out on all the boxes but one and it's such a fun game
Fair, I like to sub assembly anyway with most things, even if I can't see it I like it painted yknow
I still think that I'm going to wait for those smaller sets, cause I kind of want both the Skaven and the Stormcast, and I'd first practice painting the Stormcast and then move on to Skaven
Yeah I get that, I’ve been a little brave and assembled a little bit more of the model after having done one of them, we’re gonna learn how bad of an idea that turns out to be
If you're looking at those then getting their entire half from skaventide will definitely be the right call, if not just picking up a copy of skaventide itself tbh
In theory it’ll save time as I don’t have to faf around with the legs as much, but honestly no idea as of yet
I was working on my votann long enough I'm taking a break to work on an entire different game system lol
That’s fair, I’m the opposite, I’ve just started mine
I’ve painted exactly 2 Votann models so far
Loving the vibrancy
I’ve already got my Kahl planned and named even before he’s built
I have the anniversary model kahl, yoht grendok that I will be painting in my custom coloura but I fancied doing this guy in box art colours and honestly I kind of loved it so much I almost second thought my entire army scheme
But I do like my wow dwarf inspired scheme so no im keeping it
I saw that model and it honestly looks so good
I’m glad I managed to pick up the ancestors wrath model
My flgs still has a few of them in stock
Yeah, element games had a bunch and so I grabbed it while I could
As well as 4 copies of both of the chaos battleforces actually now I think of it
My local hobby shop still has the old chaos combat patrol
Was really tempted to get em for a vashtorr themed army since I'm doing a fancy vashtorr as a tryhard model but I've already got so much on the go I had to stop myself
Plastic crack is real man
Yeah, you can always find goodies shopping around
Yep, the plastic is so strong
I’m playing 9th and the Votann is a joint project with a friend who’s doing Tau at the same time
We’re doing a narrative campaign of Tau vs Votann
Interesting
We’re starting with 500 point crusade armies and slowly expanding into an escaping conflict
Then a third party faction (which is remaining to be decided) will get involved
Henry Cavil says Custodes are the best
Today’s little man

WIP, 🚧 Drukhari Archon/Succubus.
why did 8th edition cut tank shock just to have baneblade be stuck in combat with two cultists
If you did a tank shock, you couldn't shoot.
They got rid of the 'rally' option for units that fell back so it really got rid of a lot of things.
Cookin
Does anyone know if soulblight gravelords are a difficult army to paint?
Wouldn't the answer be dependent on the type of army you're trying to build?
I fucked up with shading wraithbone colour with brown. Coffee stains... I have no idea how to fix stains. Youtube says you need just colour again base + shade, but it still is noticable, which makes you to recolour the whole part of miniature that has stains. So I decided to hide stains with markings of battle, like chipping. Don't realy like the result though. What do you think? Any advises?
I think the result is just excellent
and yeah if you're left with staining the best solution is to just paint over it and try again, but when you are working with white/light colours which often are not opaque enough to cover the staining well, you might need to start with some other colour like brown and build up the off white colour from there to match the surroundings
Tried my hand at recess shading, and I honestly don't see too much of a difference lol
Out of curiosity, do you remember how you got started with this sort of volumetric painting? Like what was some of the first steps you took. Or i guess if you were an artist beforehand, it was probably just second nature.
My first steps were looking at youtube tutorials I suppose, I'm pretty much self taught without any real studies in art or anything
I just started to look at how my work light looked like on the model and tried to replicate that with paint
but just recently this week I attended a two day figure painting course which focused on volumetry and it was a very educational couple of days, that bust was from the second day of that course, I just improved it a bit after getting home yesterday
This was done on the first day as a quick volumetry study
Primer misbehaved which annoyed me but other than that we’re making some good progress
Damn edge highlighting is hard
What it do?
Trust me, it gets easier the more you do. When i first started, it all just felt impossible. Bits that i thought that id never be able to do before have now just become second nature. But i will say, my experience with learning to edge highlight was not a fun one lol. Much frustration.
I think where it was in the garage wasn’t the rig it temperature so it’s bubbled a bit in certain places - or I put too much on
Oh god that, yeah that’s happened to me before on my terminator captain
I think it might be due to how thick you apply it too?
If it’s any consolation, I can’t see where it’s bubbles at all
Practice is everything after all lol
Though I'm thinking of getting a smaller brush for it and for painting eyes
Also I still have to nail paint thinning, cause I still can't get it quite right and either over or underthin them
The brush was definitely a big game changer. Keep in mind that the size of the brush isnt really important. Its just the the point that the brush has when painting really small details. Also probably stay away from expensive brushes for now untill a bit further in. I made the mistake of getting fancy brushes at the start and ended up ruining them after a short time.
Brush care is the thing i suck at the most 😃
After 5 years of warhammering I still use sponges and cheap brushes as my main work horses
Oh I got some dirt cheap italeri brushes from a hobby store, didn't want to invest too much
I bought sizes 0, 1 and 2
Best £10 ive ever spent
Yeah, coat your brush in it, then rub it on a tissue. Then you can coat it again, get the water off and refine it to a point. Then put it away. It gets most of the paint out of your brush and then you can get it in the ferrule to make sure the paint doesnt dry up in it.
Drezale probably has a better product tho because theyre the paint person, but for me, this product does wonders. Also basically never runs out.
I'm very close to needing a replacement
A thing about cheaper synth brushes, they tend to get bent at the tip. That can basically make detail work impossible.
Well when I'm going to need a replacement I'll probably get some better brushes, but still not the crazy expensive ones
it's on the top lol, a bit on his helmet, a bit on his jump pack. the entire right shoulder's a bit of a splotchy mess lmao
Oh I can just about see it, it’s hardly noticeable to be honest, if you’re really unsure you could try scraping the paint off carefully
Up to you
I won't bother because I don't wanna make it a worse mess than it is now
Kitbashing another warband
Fair play
Looks like an awesome gang! Would love to hear their stories but hope to never meet them in a dark alley.
Just got to add some highlights but they are basically done any improvement ideas for my next project
more shading
Any airbrush ppl here? What does it mean when my paint comes out super matt? Does that mean its too thin?
wym super matt?
Like a normal GW paints have a sort of semigloss finish. When i airbrushed it, it came out like super super matt
Just curious why that happened.
I redid it and it came out fine. Just curious what i did wrong the first time
huuuuh
GW paints don't have a semi gloss finish
well it depends on the paint obviously, some technicals or shades can have a gloss finish
but "normal" paints don't
Yes they do? unless im mislabelling what the term is, i guess. Besides GW offwhites that is. Those are matt
Maybe i got my terms wrong, but thats semi-gloss.
I thought semi gloss and satin are the same thing ngl. The halfway point.
I suppose you could say that as well, haven't really heard much people use semi gloss to describe satin myself
Google says its a spectrum. While i said its the halfway point. So i guess both just lean towards separate sides, so im in the wrong. Its satin.
It may have to do with the paint drying slightly as it gets blown through the air
May I know the base miniature used for 3rd from left and the middle one?
Good carapace-looking-like design is hard to come by…(not saying Scions or Kasrkin are bad but they are a tad obvious/potentially misleading)
I think he means it's too emblematic of either scions or karskins, so it's hard, even if you paint it over and kitbash the mini, to make it look like a completely unique miniature
WIP
No thats a chemical reaction from the paint not having enough binder in it
full gloss, gloss(this isnt official but its used due to some wall coatings), semi-gloss, satin, sheen, eggshell, matte, "super matte"||super matte isnt a real thing and its also a really bad thing too since the pvc is too high for a varnish and paint||
full gloss is 70-90% gloss, semi-gloss is 41-69%, satin is 26-40%, sheen is 15-25%, eggshell is 10-15%, and matte is below 10%
does any of that make sense? NOPE not to anyone
Aye that be my meaning, thanks
It doesn't suppose to be semigloss)) If it is, it means you didn't shake it good enough)
3rd from left is a body from inquisitorial henchmen box. The middle is a fw hired gun from collection 2
Is there any way to prevent this?
calculate the cpvc by measuring the film albedo of the paint then adding in a high solids binder to counter act the effects
I got a corvus blackstar for cheap off ebay and I'm happy there are lots of details left to paint
its a good time to pick up deathwatch models 🙂
Very nice Crimson Fists friend
My thanks
Yeah, i think ill just take it on the chin and hope it works out lol
Commander and her dog
Tried to darkest dungeon the eyes
To avoid painting eyes lmao
7 out of 10 of my Vet Guards are magnetised!
WIP
And my first mini is (mostly) done! I feel that it's not that bad, but it definetly could be better. I'll gladly accept any tips and criticisms
you can throw some satin or gloss medium in to help fix it slightly because remember, matte agents are filler agents which means you have to reduce pigmentation or reduce the binder to add it in
so satin will help more than matte medium will and you'll need less
Are the bananas still a good option?
They still look cool so yes
I made a killteam
What legion/warband?
That axe is obviously borrowed from World Eaters.
I am slightly torn.
Should I gamble on Codex Agents re-introducing Terminator Inquisitors…?
(The Navigator in the Ordo Xenos set hints a Legends Datacard will be made into a Codex entry, so…)
Terminator inquisitors?
Incinerator.
Inquisitors wearing Terminator armour.
They used to be a thing until GW shunted them into Legends for 10th.
Makes sense, since inquisitors aren't augmented for the most part.
And you need geneseed to be compatible with space marine armor.
Including terminator suits.
Hm, I guess GW is retconning some of their own lore then. Even then, there is rare precedence for non-Astartes to wear Termie Armour.
Kor Phaeron from Horus Heresy, for example. Yes he has gene and cybernetic augments, but he is definitely not Astartes…and he still rolls around in Termie armour.
There was also Luther.
But they were exceptions.
Since they were augmented in some ways.
But I suspect you are right in the long term, it does feel like GW is aiming for some weird power armour embargo (aside from named Inquisition characters)
Outside of Custodes, Sisters and Marines (loyal or chaos)
Sisters have an off-shoot of a power armor.
True, but power armour nonetheless.
Behold Astor Sabbathiel wearing Terminator armour
Unidentified undivided faction
Damn that looks dope but a little small
Yea it's pretty cool, but I need to have a word with whoever decided the comic needed two close up panels showing her bare feet
and it's not that small
Like she's smaller than the servants without the armour and like twice their height wearing it
There is also that one dude from Dark Heresy
A clearly normal human who ends up wearing Termie armour as well
But really I am just hoping Inquisitors don’t need to feel that embarrassed only having Carapace armour lol.
That and I need something armoured to accompany my definitely-wearing-a-Spyrer-suit Rogue Trader
Consider making them the pirates.
I don’t have any pirate stuff 😦
Red Corsairs
Bonus, you even get to paint formerly loyalist individuals if you like
Red Corsair’s entire Schtick is Home for Troubled Renegade Astartes from Loyalist Chapters.
And no need for actual pirate bits, GW pretty much just treats them as Chaos Marines anyways.
oh the invictus warsuit! swag
How's this for a golden boy?
im painting a jump pack captain and I'm not sure if I paint the engines
I think a simple silver and black wash will do it fine
Oops too late