#40k-minis-and-armies
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Yea I started painting with thousand sons so I’m not a stranger to failing
Tell yourself if you don't paint you'll shoot yourself with a nail gun in a place you would never want. Works every time for me and I don't own a nail gun
Nahh I already want to paint my ceiling with a shotgun and my brain
Same, but someone needs to look after my minis
Blood is fugitive so it makes for a bad paint pigment so don't do that
For years I have scorned the pile-of-shame-havers
after all, how hard can it be? Just paint what you already have before starting another project
but now that I started working and getting serious money
I can see how it can very easily grow out of control
Lancelot's skin is starting to shape up nicely, although a bit worried I over did the shadows for the creases and wrinkles a bit
hence why its called a pile of shame
This is so good
I avoided buying some a few weeks ago and now the price went up about 10$ on everything.
Price hikes build piles!
Appreciate it!
Honestly I think you own it at this point. You have very dramatic lighting and it's just your style and its great
at least in my layman opinion of course i have no clue if it's the lighting or just general style I like
i couldnt tell you why i think things are cool
Hah thanks
I'm quite happy with the shaded side of the face but just the wrinkles on the light side cause me to think readjusting them somewhat
Yeah the shadows are heavy but it just reads as art style nothing looks off about it
Started working on a death guard kill team out of extras from the bits box
Fair, might need to do some other areas first before retouching the face to see how well it blends with the rest
Oh boy I think I'm having net issues with posting pics rn
anyone know the best source of 2nd hand cheap warhammer models in the UK?
I use primarily troll trader
I'm looking especially for the old IG cadian infantry units
but I'd like to get some on sprue models too for fixing and kitbashing
especially for the heavy weapon squads
eBay is pretty good
I hope I'll be able to paint thing like this one day lol
Keep at it and I'm sure you will 🫡
First of all I need to even start lol
Price hikes sell 3d printers
idk ebay seems rough
a lot of the stuff is the same price as retail except i'll also have to strip the paint
you've gotta find the new listings and bid early
if you're from the uk you'll probably have a lot of items for less than they're worth
I'd need to pay for VAT in addition to the prices so I've used it less since Brexit
Cadian army for 40kUrsula creed2 castellan (fist and plasma pistol)2 command squads (2 fist/plasma, meltagun, vox and medic)2 commissars3 units of kasrkin (2 meltagun, 2 plasma gun, vox and sniper)2 heavy weapons teams (6 models all lascannon)13 shock troops (plasma gun and meltagun in each)6 shock troops units have been painted, have swapped he...
if anyone's from the uk and want new guard stuff
looks like a 2k points army for 500
protip: you can usually remove the extra shit from an URL after the '?'
Ive gotten 4k point armies on there for $500 but I have to strip paint and deal with their awful builds but $500 for 4k points
thanks
started looking, found a full squad of old school kasrkin on bid
I turn around and resell half the army for that or profit sometimes
thanks for the tip
yeah i've seen stuff like that
lots of tank armies but i do not want to start stripping vehicles
feel like it'll be hel
although flat pannel might be easier
naw its easier than troops because with troops you run the risk of breaking off tiny bits
that's true
i've got some 2nd hand cadians i've been trying to clear for a while
but the PO seemed to have double base coated them
so it's a real pain
Break fluid baby
soak them in that for aa day, paint gone
oh here was an ebay rescue someone got at one point that was hilarious
they put a lot of the helmets upside down too
My favorite ebay rescue was 42 poxwalkers painted like this for 50$
I would have loved those because that also seems to be a kitbash
i keep seeing piles of bits for like 20 quid
and i'm so tempted
like cadian heads/torsos/weapons
Quick little extra colour in there
Need to do a small bit of cleanup on a couple colours later
yeah, ive gotten full armies from those bits lots before but I had to buy a lot of them
Shadows softened and highlights expanded
I'm guessing this was an attempt an making gellerpoxwalkers from all the metal and space suit vibe
If you like kitbashing do it
I literally built these "death guard" entirely out of spare bits
Super rough early stages but they'll likely come out looking pretty clean
the hottest thing a man can do is be really good at painting Warhammer 40K minis
#winning
Welp time to finally pick up a brush again
Hell yeah
I might
I'll see
I really want to get the inquisitor goon squad and kit bash it into an inquisitor's command squad i could use in a guard army
I have in fact gotten chicks before because of this, but those chicks were.... Well lets just say they werent people I'd want to be seen with in public

Impossible
Would you want to be seen in public with someone who likes warhammer?
the answer is no
no you wouldnt
Idk, as a 6'3 man at 235lbs and 18% bodyfat liking Warhammer is perfectly fine by my girlfriend
She builds all my tanks for me cuz I don't like building em
Jokes on you, women terrify me
Which primer did you use there, that coverage is crazy good
Citadel Mephiston spray, I held the can a fair distance away and made sure to do short bursts to get coverage, left the mini to dry for a few minutes and inspected it to see the coverage
There was still a few places that needed a quick coat of mephiston from brush, but I want over the whole mini anyways because the bottle gives a difference finish
I would say liking war hammer has lost a lot of the stigma around it. Probably because of all the other things that people are into that, imo, are a lot, lot more strange than basically playing a board game.
it hasnt... I still get people harassing me because I have a 40k tattoo
so I cover it up
You play warhammer you cant be in a relationship. Also what does body fat have to do with anthing?
That spray was made by James Briggs LTD, they make some very good spray cans for automotive. They do the cans not the paints but I dont see much better than them as they dont tend to clog much.
the paints are made by HMG
Harass you over a tattoo?
Yep. They think im racist
Then they find out I was married to a black woman for years and have a kid with her
Oh, well i guess depends on what the tattoo is. Warhammers has taken a lot of imagery and inspiration from subjects that are considered to be evil. A lot of outsiders to the franchise may see them as what it resembles.
just the basic admech symbol
Most people assume I'm fat when I say I weight 235lbs
Im nearly 300, over 6' and only slightly chubby. so I dont assume shit about body fat. I get it
Oh, well i guess theyre just a bit strange then. To my knowledge, the admech symbol is only inspired by the ying and yang. And i dont think the ying and yang have any offensive connotations.
its a 40k symbol and there has been a lot of issues with... neo-no no words flying 40k signs and a lot of transphobes on twitter being stupidly dedicated to 40k
BTW
HMG makes all GW painting products
Nice, makes a change
Plus being a gym bro I have the information at hand
Im not a gym goer, I just have to hike 25 miles for work a lot entirely to get to a natural pigment site to test for PFAs and other toxins that I cant get to with a car. A few companies mine over there and we have to make sure they aren't selling dangerous materials and this area is well known for being very toxic for the residents due to the energy company dumping chemicals into the river and constant "accidental" chemical spills
Oh wow, that's an interesting job
ehh, its just what im contracted to do at this moment because my normal specialty died in this city due to covid so I'm moving soonish to get back into just testing paint for quality and pigment color consistency
Oh cool
Primarily an Ork player so I went into this well prepared in the art of checkerboards. Recently finished a kitbash of Malakim Phoros, Chapter Master of the Lamenters (though he'll be used as a Dante stand in for 10th)
That's a crazy model
Little bit of trim work
Painting the world eaters combat patrol myself. It's made me realize now how much I hate painting trim, haha
Powerfist and plasma captain
He looks wicked man! Good work.
Eyyy thanks yo 
It’s a necessary evil, but it looks great when done
Struggling to paint something and then seeing that even the eavy metal team fucked it up a bit, is like the best feeling.
Oh?
They constantly fuck up and a lot of their things are very amateur
Its a very good feeling
Cool angron

I got that wrong didn’t I?
Nope! That is angron!
Out of curiosity, how long does painting something of that size take?
Not sure if I shared my Luna
Wolf here
Did some conversion with MkVI parts to make mkiv into new scale
an hour of shoulder work
Finished shading the legs and torso so can move on tomorrow
I really need to finally get my shit together and buy my first minis + paints but the shop I want to buy them in is out of nuln oil lol
Don't use nuln oil... It honestly makes things a little bit harder to paint because either you're doing a full wash and it's just going to look splotchy or you're doing a pin wash which means you need to modify the nuln oil or you're going to be spending hours fixing.
You can also make it really easily it's like one drop of ink and 50ml of water
I have the recipe for the old school one and it's way more pigmented
Washes are actually something that discourages a lot of new painters funny enough because they don't understand why their model isn't looking good after putting on a wash
They don't realize that they have two patch up the wash and paint over it again to get the effects that they're seeing on YouTube
Oh I'd be grateful if You'd share it and/or suggest some alternative brand for a such a wash
I've seen people do it before
Well I just make my own wash when I need it, The old school recipe is 50ml deionized water, 20ml medium, 5ml mars black, 1mlbrown ink, 3 drops titanium white, 3 drops alcohol ethoxylate(this is a flow improver, which actually works way better than Vallejo will ever work as vallejo doesn't use a flow improver and actually just dries your paint out quicker)
You can up the ink ratios too
Because you're making it you can change the saturation
I've seen a lot of newer painters get screwed up over washes and when you look at the higher tier painters they don't actually use washes unless they're trying to make it beginner tutorial.
It's like that whole putting a brown wash on skin to give it shading when you could mix the wash into the paint and apply it which will make it look a lot better and not have those weird pooling issues some washes have and not take any tangible extra amount of time
Thanks
So it's better to mix the wash into the paint?
Sometimes yeah if that's all you have.
Generally speaking mixing your own colors is going to give you a better selection of colors as a whole and cost you way less money... And I mean way less money.
So mixing in a wash is a good first step
A lot of those golden demon winners you see use inks to thin down their paint
And a wash is just a diluted ink
Also a lot of those golden demon winners use really stupid and dangerous techniques that if they aren't careful can actually get people killed in very very rare circumstances.
I mean extremely rare but it's not uncommon to use certain pigments which when they interact with the acrylic will create cyanide gas for oil washes and stuff like that
It's like a 1% chance of that even happening but that still high enough for me to never want to risk it
Spicy painting
Oh shit, wouldn't want to try that too then lol
Also, quick question, is Tamiya Primer good? I think I have a can from a few years ago when I tried my hand at scale modelling, and if it doesn't work I might order it from the store with all the supplies I'm ordering cause they're out of citadel primers (and it's a bit cheaper)
In the massive testing of different primers for different types of material that a paint company called Golden did number of years back primarily for 3D prints,
Tamiya performed fairly well in terms of abrasion resistance. However there is no notable increase of adherence from a paint. However stynlrez and Vallejo actually reduced the adhesion abilities of paint due to their weak surface bond compared to just using normal acrylic paint.
So yes Tamiya is not that bad. If you want the link to that test I can give it to you because it's actually pretty interesting because it kind of disproves a lot of things that hobby people say
I'd be grateful for that link
I hesitate calling it good because I'm used to using something called toom, which is the top tier primer in the world
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Thank you very much
Golden is a great company and I work with them all the time. They are always really good about answering questions as well and they genuinely have helped me get past a lot of weird issues that I've had at work with some testing stuff. Like I kind of accidentally discovered a fluo pigment that most companies claim isn't fluorescent but golden did testing for me and actually founded themselves
Which was a fantastic thing for me because that saves me a lot of headache because I was super concerned about an adulterant in that pigment which is not a good thing for a safety industry if it fades too quickly
So im looking to buying another brush but winsor and newton have mini painting brushes now? Anyone know what they are exactly and are they worth buying instead?
Miniature painting means something very different than what you think it does.
What you guys called mini painting is actually called figure painting.
Mini painting in reality is actually small canvases. Also do not use sable with acrylics because acrylics actually kill the brushes really quickly and the paint companies keep asking many painters to stop using their brushes is the point where a lot of the companies are actually pushing the price point up to push you guys away from them. Which I believe I've told you about that before and how we are in a problematic area with them due to them actually being put back on the endangered list due to the mass calling during COVID and they might become illegal globally again.
So that means their prices are going to skyrocket and you won't be able to get them which means switching to synthetics is going to be required in the near future
Also windsor and newton brushes are garbage
And I will die on that hill
Seriously they are actually increasing prices entirely because of mini painters because theyre going through more brushes than the average artist in a year
And you're buying more brushes than the average painter does in their lifetime, The course of 5 years most will actually buy more than most oil painters will in 50 years. It's kind of insane.
And they don't even use half the brushes they just collect them
Also those brushes are spotter brushes which are not a brush you want for an acrylic as they will die in a few months at best
I've tested this and they yeah they die really quickly...
It's generally not productive to refer to a group of people as you people while casting wide generalizations of what you believe the majority do
There's probably a word for that
I'm using voice to text so some things might be kind of worded weirdly as I stutter a lot and it's trying to figure out what I'm trying to say
Pls send free castigators ty
Ok
You can have these 3d printed ones
I do have a 3D printer...
maybe I should learn how to use it
ive had it in a box for 5 months haha
i just bought a venting hood. this month is the month
I havent offered to teach you a few times IIRC
yea but now im gonna DO IT
Yes finally
I think i have some files for that tank too
WIP
Did it in shifts with my wife for about a week as a gift for a friend
ACTUALLY Getting started on the Age of Darkness Battlegroup I have had sitting for longer then I care to admit, ALSO trying the "New" coloring that GW has for MKIII legs, NGL I KINDA Like the extra black breaking up the green (Also Hewwwo to all, my first time posting anything here
)
Love that click, so satisfying
@sick ledge What brushes would you recommend? Ive been painting for nearly 2 years and have always had issues with my brushes. (granted i am still refining my brush care and have had some accidents with my brushes) I know acrylics damage sable brushes, but i have never found any other brush that has provided me with such precision as natural hair brushes. All painters that produce amazing work, also use sable brushes from the videos that i have seen.
Yeah you have to perfect your brush good to use a sable effectively honestly because that's kind of the trick with them too... Even with watercolors they'll die if you don't take care of them correctly.
Personally I use mostly escoda but I've been working with a lot of silver brush recently and I'm really liking silver brush because their durability is really high for what they are.
When you're looking for a synthetic brush you don't actually want the softest what you want is actually something a little bit harder and that will actually help a lot with its durability.
@white tangle Ive been using the same silver brush synthetic mongoose for about two months no, still no signs of damage
and i havent been taking care of it that well
base tones here and there
My friends, let's try to paint a Warhammer Sicaran Battle Tank using some standard armor weathering techniques - hairspray chipping, post shading, enamel washes, rust effects painted with oil paints, and LAYERS of mud running down the sides!
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finally, Night Shift's take on warhammer
Thats not enough rust to be nightshift I call shenanigans
there's a good bit still, not much visible on the thumbnail
The paint is too perfectly intact even in the video to be nightshift
I just realized I havent seen a nightshift video in years ever since he took that AK "sponsorship"
Second squad of beserkers done.
Sweeeeet 
Tau!!
My lamenter strike force command structure. All I need is to decide if I want to get a reg apothecary or use my gravis one and get a tech marine and then I truly have a full command structure for it
Leaning towards gravis as I can have: captain and the company heroes for the reg troops, chaplain for the terminators, librarian for any Phobos marines, apothecary for any gravis and tech marine obviously for vehicles. All in all they will probably never all be in a singular battle but still cool and fun in my eyes so I don’t care
Apologies for the baby
That's my niece
Free hand straight lines
First time doing faces and I'm not really sure on how I should feel
Barbatos?
What color should i make the radio?
I mean it reads as skin and its far from the worst ive seen and ive seen worse from people who've painted hundreds of faces. The right eye in the picture is a little off center but you still painted the eyes without making it look like they had two detached retinas so its better than most peoples work.
you could go over some parts with the skin tone paint to highlight parts if you wanted to.
I'd do a greenish grey or a grey but it depends on your army scheme
Aerial
Honestly Russ grey, scarlet, grey, and corvas white
Corvas white aint that bad
sure as hell beat wraith bone
I know scarlet and grey, I dont know what corvas white and russ grey are
what kind of scarlet? there are 30~ scarlets
or what people would call scarlet
evil suns scarlet
so desaturated close enough to a scarlet, a bluish grey and a white
Along side administratum grey and Barthasar gold
no yellow?
nah
I can remember the names of most pigments but hobby paint names I cant remember
Maybe admin grey?
think that would work?
true save it for last then
Oh nice! Need to watch Witch from Mars. Looks really good!
I'll have to check it out. Catch that after I finish up with Fallout.
Red Corsairs Chaos Jumplord with balefire for OSL practice
Give the baby some warhammer minis to paint up
The Baby likes The Kreig
one of many
perturabo typed this post
unironically is that petty
very nice edge highlights
I hope you're not doing a guard horde
I am
😂
but mostly for display.
Anyone got a recommendation of a plexibox for display. Single display case and 5 figure as well.
For those looking to start an Astra Militarum army, this is my top recommended list to get into the army. 995 points based on the 10th edition index prior to the January 2024 Balance Dataslate. SMALL ERROR: THE CADIAN CASTELLANS DO NOT COME IN THE COMBAT PATROL BOXES! YOU HAVE TO BUY THEM SEPARATELY! APOLOGIES AS MY MEMORY BETRAYED ME!
For 10% ...
im trying to find something like this based on holder but cant find its name
it groups the models toghether
movement tray i think
Buy Wargames army movement trays with round miniatures base systems at the best price online at Green Stuff World ⭐.
there are tons on amazon for "cheap"
whats the single fucking mini on the top shelf
Looks like the krieg sergeant, absolutely FLEXING his superiority
As one would say; “I see no god up here OTHER THAN ME”
Ahh yes, my only Krieg Painted model ahah
Lmao
I will put Celestine next to him
gay put yarrick
yes indeed, until the shipping cost 2-3x times the price
actually i didnt use amazon so not sure about the shipping fee but ebay shipping fee is outrageous
most of it is free but the display cases these days are super expensive no matter where you go. I remember them being like $5 a few years ago
they are like $20 not which isnt bad but still
commercialized inflation gents
same reason WH plastic is so expensive. 70% justification of the price is because of the IP& LORE
should I start another mini?
Yes
Welp
second to last veteran is hardened vet, lets make him a Hardened kriegsman
yeeees
I love the red dirt base
Martian ironearth
I just use random dirt outside and rocks
He still has model?
yes
Hot and ready
Hell yeah
gym time
Shrine of the Sable Helm finished!!!!
After a very extensive break I'm glad to be getting back into the hobby
For painting terrain do you guys recommend a big old makeup brush or sponging?
Depends on the terrain and desired effects. I'd honestly be more inclined to work with sprays, airbrushes, and transparent paints (inks or contrast)
@brisk vapor what was that colot preview app you used for the goblin that my dumb ass thought was real?
It really depends on what you are going for me personally I like using rocks and stuff to build it up than adding more on here is the one I’m planning out rn
Spray is a no go
Oh i mean like the actual massive terrain kits sorry
Why though?
Backyard has a very hyper husky and garage has a car in it - room is poorly ventilated and not allowed even if it were
Trust me if i could get an airbrush i would have had one 2 years ago i hate brush painting vehicles and im an atsra militarum fan
You mean this? I just did it on Paint3D, think it's included with Windows as default
So you like digitally painted it as a test?
Yeah
Dudd that's nuts
I just thought it was a really advanced pallette app i am such an amateur
😄
Yeah no, it was just done with the water colour brush tool with low opacity on Paint
Very interesting and fun way to test schemes i dig it
Never going to even attempt it but I'm amazed
Oh hey dude I got Death Korps for Killteam aswell!
I'm magnetising my units rn
I current have the Magnipro LED illumination headband magnifying visor
Best purchase I made to help paint, Currently all thats left is my Sergeant and he still needs to be primed
and I have a couple more to build
How do you prime your minis then?
Most likely by hand or just going outside with a spray can
Pour the entire pot over it
My suggestion would then be to prime with a light colour (grey seer or wraithbone level, doesn't have to be GW though), then use inks/shades/speedpaint/contrast to apply colour.
yeah I do that main with darks you
What?
I use dark primers
I prime indoors in a little venting hood set up with a mask. I do dark primer and sometimes a white spray from the top to pick out details
Fuckin Angron
Casts yeet
It's cool, I casted melta guns up is ass and gave him a good ol crimson fistin 
Give it a turn or two and he’ll be back
Tru
Such a dumb ability
If it only this didn't happen in turn 5
EVERYONE PICK A NUMBER BETWEEN 0 - 100
69
Cuz of course
World eaters in 9th and 10th feel so disconnected, because they released them with half a model range and called it a day,
55
Whats with people choosing 55
Idk, it was either that or 57
7
Both
I dont prime my minis 🙂 I'm a rebel clearly
Well, that's also a valid answer ("I don't"). In which case I would have recommended either make up brushes or sponging, depending on the desired effect and texture.
I was trying to give context specific advice
I always have to make those stupid quips as you know
Very enjoyable to be painting Sons of Horus again after a long while of other projects
Time the prime the hell out
they
been primed and are drying
May the emperor smile upon they

The
Emperor has forsaken one
Backlog progress. Finished the base after letting this Boy dust on the shelf for a month. 1/3 done
Dark angel sister of battle
This is the first time I’ve seen green sister! I love it!
zapping time
What a handsome boy
Quite! Thank you
I see you painted the rivets, I respect the detail
I painted the target lasers on the epic scale knights
Painting the smallest details on the smallest models is a fun little challenge 
Yeesh
Y'all I need help pricing stuff
I have an old metal Ahriman body + a bunch of random metal models (I also have just a loose metal Drachyen with no Abaddon in sight which isthe absolute peak of memery) and I have no idea how to price them
I don't really have an interest in metal and from what I've seen there's not a lot of demand outside of random collectors with nostalgia goggles
If you’re in the United States I highly recommend checking out the market for the model via eBay as it’s typically a good reference for used model pricing
If you can send pictures I may be able to help as I’m a big collector of all things Warhammer
okay chat
may add some gold to the skull portions or may not
leave it to yall
But anyway
thats the Sergeant done
Can somebody give me simple ways to achieve a brush only OSL for something like an emergency light?
For an example - these lights on the Gallowdark
Would sponging work for OSL?? Sounds simple but idk
How simple are his concepts?
I'm genuinely like a chimp with a paint brush
A lot of tutorials on youtube are not accessible at all imo
Not too difficult to grasp but might be a bit difficult to put to action I suppose
Generally speaking, take the whitest paint you own, thin the mcfuck out of it with contrast medium, apply semi-generously to the area you want to glow and overpaint a little, you want light to spread out a lil further than the actual thing you're painting, then take whatever colour you want to use for the light and thin it down with contrast medium the same way you did with the white (remembering that the medium will lighten the colour you're using a little bit)
thats about as good as you can get for non-airbrush OSL
Oh yeah and if your light are cyan or yellow you'll want to add a tiny bit of white back into the middle of the light
Like after everything
Hypothetically speaking i dont own contrast medium
I'll get some pics together soon I'm not fully sure how to even ID some of them lol
Water probably works there but I can't say I've tried so no guarantee
Sad
I wont be able to go to any paint stores within the next week
RAHHHHH I HATE NIGHT SHIFTS RAHHHHH
his concepts mostly use acrylics over oil paint... which arcylics cant adhere to and will delaminate.
How I do it is dry brush white, dry brush a darker transparent pigment, lighter dry brush white, dry brush a brighter transparent pigment on the white, mix white with the lightest and do edge highlights
Yes it does and very well
I'll need to borrow you then in the near future for something then as you will be invaluable
Then i will do this
I plan to mostly sponge my terrain anyhow
Im so down
hell yeah, you get free classes and I get a test subject for making guides for the newest of painters which is lacking on youtube
there is no rule saying you cant and I have use a sponge for osl before
Yeah to this day i havemt found a single youtube guide helpful
Because all of them tell you that you need good brush control and shit but never fucking tell you what that means
goodluck painting void terrain with hand i've been at it for a while now lol
naw fuck brush control, I'll paint with my feet to prove a point. New meta will be foot control
And they also dont realize that
thats why I hate youtube art guides
they also make them way more complicated than they should be
YES EXACTLY
They make it seem like they are creating the atomic bomb sometimes
You aewnt splitting atoms bruh
I can literally do the same with as an oil wash with acrylics including the caplilary action
Im ashamed to say that i started mini painting almost a year ago and probably only have 20 miniatures painted
its all about understanding the raw basics
I have less
and ive been painting for 4 years
but to be fair 5 of the minis ive painted are titans
well I aim to have people to stop being bummed out
Good and bad are irrelevant opinions
Managed to do a two tone effect from lower angles.
How do you get the physical properties of oil washes without diluting the arcylic to the point of ruining the binder?
Ive spend hour scraping off trims and chaos symbols to make this firstborn loyalist for no reason
Soooo, I prefer fantasy straight up. But I'm looking to get into Kill Team.
Is there any team which yall think would be suitable to run a skaven team as proxy
I'm thinking guard/kriegsman
But I would like something with heavy wep
So I can run rattling gunners
Adeptus Arbites lol
About as good an excuse to paint Alpha Legion as you're gonna get lol
Also doing a super original legionary kill team where I have one of each traitor legion for each model, nightlord shrivetalon kinda goes hard
Not sure what base size they have but you could probably proxy them as a few teams, fellgor ravagers is the one that leaps out at me immediately as looking "correct" with Skaven (I used tzaangors for mine)
Could probably get away with blooded pretty easily too
Or most guardsmen teams
It depends on what you want to do. Running skaven "as is" would be hard, due to general lack of guns, and for the weapons teams, the bases wouldn't be a good match for their kill team equivalents.
If you want to kitbash something like 40k skaven, then the blooded or veteran guard teams might be close enough rules wise. Maybe also wyrmblade.
Even then, for gunners/snipers, you'd have to go the vermintide route, where the gunner is one dude with a backpack
depending on your hobby level and wallet size I think a veteran guardsmen team kit bashed with skaven heads would probably be amazing and draw tons of compliments
you can even homebrew a little story that there are ratmen abhuman (not ratlings, who are tiny) who have a guard regiment. they are fun to play and would look really good, and be easy to do. the vet guard capes are probably easy to glue skaven tails under sticking out
did some googling and people have done good kitbashing of that concept
the traitor guard team could also be used as a base, and they are more chaotic
but kitbashing the ogryn into a rat ogre would be WAY more involved
and come on you HAVE to run the ogryn in that team

I see Rat
How do the rat ogres scale against Ogryn?
You could maybe use one of those instead
probably similar size, especially the old metal ones
Or use the head on the ogryn at least
yea, but the mask is so cool on the ogryn
I think that chaos ogryn model is one of the best they've made in the last 10 years of 40k.
Is the mask a seperate piece? Looks like it would line up decently well with a bit of plastic surgery
its an insanely good sculpt from a design perspective
probably not but you might be able to cut it off and cut the front off a rat ogre head
but its probably way bigger
Yeah idk how well the bits line up but it looks like you could borderline just clip the nose of a ratogre and glue it right on
honestly you could probably just glue a tail on him and call it a day.
he already even has pointed ears
True actually
I really hope that they end up making the dark admech into the Skaven it would work so easily
that's hoping for too much
It just works seamlessly imo
i like votann but they aren't just dwarfs in space
gw won't let us have nice things
You wouldn't have to change almost anything about either faction to make it work
Me still waiting on exodites, emps children and Tau auxiliaries
I'm getting one at least
yea I agree, skaven already are a techy species for sure. its not hard to imagine skaven ships and artillery
Also Tau auxiliaries would make such a good kill team give me my goddamn psyker owlbears GW I am no longer asking
admech are very much skaven themed though
a mix of skaven and necromancers
though 40k admech are just cowboys and davinci guys :<
i like 30k admech way more, much scarier
crazy that 40k admech models aren't really "grimdark" at all
cawl is great
more stuff like cawl
Yeah I think a lot of the general themes of Skaven have been absorbed by guard, GSC and Admech but like, people still want their ratmen y'know
kitbash a whole skaven admech army 🙂
Yeah Cawl and tech priest dominus made me wanna collect admech then I saw the rest of the army
Yeah I plan on grabbing a Cawl at some stage for a display for sure
Same as like half the AoS centrepieces
i have a cawl because i got the combo box of him celestine and grayfax
so it was like getting a free cawl because i wanted the other two
I wanna find a way to use Illarielle(?)s beetle for a ksons unit but I think it's too big to even be a MVB
Lol buying boxes for single models then reselling everything else is such a trap for me too
this thing?
age of sigmar?
It's absolutely massive
looks really big yea
I think I might split them up and paint them for my housemates or smth
haha that would be nice
One loves bugs and the other is violently gay so it probably works out
Ferociously gay, even
I've always wanted to toy with a homebrew game mode where the mid objective is a big creature or artillery gun you fight over controlling so might be cool for that even
i looked it up and the beetle is 180mm x 130 mm oval
vortex beast is about 100mm
so yea a bit too big
No its part of the whole head
Yeah I've found psychophage made for a better proxy model for that
I don't think it would be that bad, more going for the asthetic of "skaven picked up gaurd weaponry"
Got a story/lore idea which kinda explains it
My explanation for this.
In the middle of "The End Times" mid Ubsriek 5 shit.
A greyseer has a premonition of the man things surviving and becoming giant mech robot things (space marines). In rage he commisions Clan Skrye to create a teleportation/time travel thing to move an army of about 10 million mixed skaven to these mech things.
Being skaven tech the portal wipes out all but about 10 and the 10 remaining rat men are teleported into the remains of the Krieg Gaurds men from the original Krieg VS Orcs trailer.
They nick their guns and start killing
Also in my head cannon this is the first attempt at what will eventually become the skitter gate
If I do the models I plan to write the reasoning into a short story
Either that or a gang of orc weird boyz while wanting something to fight accidentally brought a gang of skaven into 40k
You're not sending it that much it's all about understanding how surface tension works and prepping the surface correctly.
I'll show you at some point its just not exactly an easy thing to explain.
It also requires some specific products and understanding of the chemicals in them.
That sounds a lot more detailed and specific than "varnish model, mix oil paint and odorless spirit, pin wash, don't revarnish for another half year at least", but I don't doubt that your acrylic alternative is viable.
So the process is the same as that except you don't varnish you kind of put down a wetting agent it's just very complex to explain because of what you have to add into the acrylic which is kind of hard to find in some countries so we have to go around finding the chemicals that would work for it
The short of it is you have to base the surface with a wetting agent, send down your acrylic with a specific type of flow improver, put it down.
You can also do a gloss varnish which would work really well which also means that you could varnish it again that same day
Not all flow improvers will work for this because not all flow improvers are actually flow improvers
As me and a few companies just recently found out a lot of companies tend to list things as flow improver and they are not
Thought I might as well show one of my projects and most beloved works: the Splatterfest, a kill team of khornate ratlings (And Henry the Ogryn).
In short, the kill team is composed of:
- Gunther Handfrier is the leader and masterchef of the team. Blessed by Khorne with uncomfortably big hands.
- Benjamin Bonebroth is the second in command and medic of the team. Incapable of speech besides grunting and screaming. Has to wear a helmet to keep the pieces of his head together.
- William Faceburger. William actually seems to be the happiest with his situation, to the point people question his loyalty from even before the ratling village of Cuccagna fell to chaos. (3rd model ever painted and 1st converted miniature)
- Melvin Marrowsalad. Melvin has mastered a number of excercises and meditative practices in order to achieve peak phisical and mental performance.
- Brian Brainstew. Handles machinery and explosives. Keeps eating brains. It's slowly killing him.
- Pick-Nick. Scout. Doesn't cook and instead eats raw meat, so Gunther hates him with a passion. Has a battle fork.
- Henry the Kind. Actually an Ogryn. Real softie until he gets mad.
There are actually 2 more members to the kill team, though they're still unpainted:
- Oliver Liversteak. Blind gunslinger, guided by his familiar Princess Bloodbath.
- Terry Bloodbrew. Icon bearer. Found a way to make a blood-based alcoholic drink. Local hero.
I love them all very much and I could never pick a favourite, but I'm particularly proud of Melvin with his ork iron jaw, and the mighty champion Gunther himself.
All because a friend gifted me his bits-box with some abandoned halflings and plenty of ork bits, AND my brother just happened to have bought a zombie dragon.
Hell yeah, very cool!
Let’s fucking gooo
Nice!
Need 7 more now
yep he does a forbidden by physics and chemistry technique
WHATAREUTALKINABEET?
but yea, I want 3 castigators and I need to get my printer set up
acrylics delaminate from oil paint and the gas release causes them to crack and flake off when you apply a varnish and if you apply a varnish too early in extremely rare cases you can cause a fire or create cyanide gas
and by extremely rare I mean extremely rare
oh thats interesting but I was more responding to the australian cadian fan
oh
I dont know of that one
what printer?
it has a fatal flaw in it that causes the plate to crack screens if you mess up
oh wow! its a bigger printer than I need though haha
I think I'm gonna paint my monkey today.
its actually fairly small
you'll need to slice the body in half to print it most likely
I got a issue with my print that all my prints sick to the bottom of the reservoir and failing
I was thinking about printing vertically
or is that more likely to fail because it would extend print time a lot
I love the cyborg monkey race
I have a unit of henchman so now I can take the monkey
They should’ve gotten they’re own army instead of custodies
you need to set the zero better
and change your bottom layer settings
how many layers and time for bottom layer?
I did all of that
I don’t remember
it needs to be higher than the recommended a lot of the time
what resin are you using too?
Does the custom terrains on the surface of your miniature round bases affect gameplay or is it merely for aesthetic purposes?
I am still new to the game
WIP
CF Third Squad Sergeant
Saw this at my local hobby store
oh?
Yeah as I mentioned below, basically its a hazardous method and delaminates fairly quickly. The acrylic will "adhere" but you need to wait roughly about 250-600 years before it can
but even then the bond is so weak it rubs off
I see
hobbiests argue with it all the time but I have confirmation from about 70 different paint companies that on plastic this will not work and my own experience too where the paint slides right off
I mean primer is a thing
acrylic primers do not help with paint adhesion and we are talking about acrylics over oil paints
ah
if your paint isnt adhering to bare plastic that means the paint has gone bad, you destroyed the binder by thinning it because of low solids count in the binder to support thinning, low no stabilization agents, or the solids count in the binder is too low to support the pigmentation and a few other things
Some primers can help with durability but they are few are far between
Toom can but thats an expensive thing
tamiya nylon sprays can also
mhm
brush on primers do not as they do not contain a solvent for bonding to plastic
so spray paint is better?
not exactly as it really depends. What you're more so trying to do with a "primer" is to get a base coat
mhm
Personally I use an ink do that with an airbrush
an ink with a satin finish
has more durability than matte and it doesnt have the risk of being gritty
I paint with satin and varnish with matte unless i'm doing true metallics
then I varnish with a specialized varnish to prevent corrosion
base silver, use masking putty and masking tape, paint over everything, remove putty and tape. For scratches grab either a silver fineliner pen or a tiny brush
stipple around the scratches to provide a simulation of paint chipping off, even better if you do a primer layer showing
Just dont do a zinc chromate look because everyone will read it as corrosion
Can I just stipple silver
I use a lot of methods personally
Painting vehicles is way more fun than painting individual guys imo
I agree but I also do a lot of scale modeling
Yeah
yes
purple bois it is
thats cheating
nuh uh
you paint the base and not the ork because the ork is invisible
sounds like a skill issue
thanks
eldar vs tau oiled up who's winning the gundam mech off
I bet on wraith knight
Warlord Titan
We making invisible orks today
Not sure how good people here are with rules stuff but figured I would ask. Celestine's Mircaulous Intervention says to set her up back on the battlefield as close as possible to where she was not in engagement range.
Is she still attached to her unit and the Geminae Superiors/Seraphim?
And does the enemy get to pile in before that happens if she dies in melee?
I'm assuming that it works like transports where if there is no legal place to set up the model because she's swarmed she just evaporates into thin air.
Or does she split off and become her own unit because it says "model"?
The resurrection rule should specify when it happens, usually it's at the end of the phase
It says at the end of the phase, so that could be the fight phase.
And the attached unit rule I am not sure, I'd recon she would stay as a part of it if she dies before the unit does
That's what I'm assuming, I just want to be sure so I don't yeet her into a mob of ork boyz to screen and then use her FNP to tank hits and can't set her back up because im totally surrounded.
I have a friend who's doing Green Tide.
Also my army went up by like 400 points so I guess I'm officially over 2k now. :3
I lost my crusaders though... No more crusaders/repentia team popping out of the suicide rhino.
Yeah the resurrected character should be part of the unit until the unit itself dies, same with Necron thralls
Why do some people lick their brushes while painting?
Something about getting a nice, fine tip on your brush
Paint tasty
because they havent learned what hands are
To make a point/wet their brush, but it's a really dangerous practice considering how little the average consumer knows about the contents of their paint. For one of the worst cases, look up the radium girls (description, the images are somewhat NSFL).
What can I use for camo netting for my leman Russ
Certain fishnet clothing might make for an okay base for the camo to rest on, look at some videos on how people make ghillysuits
gauze
Oh I saw that in 1000 ways to die
Yeah i know of that horror story
Also, anyone here with a beefy PC? Out of curiosity, do you paint with it on?
yes. I use it for background noise like art history documentaries or chaotic industrial metal
What specifically is your concern? Airborne paint particles getting sucked into the ventilation, the ventilation affecting air quality/humidity/temperature of the room, the noise?
IDK if my pc qualifies as "beefy", but in the summer I have bigger issues with my room arrangement (faces the sun, doesn't have great ventilation if there's no wind outside) than with the PC regarding ambient temperature, and in the winter the PC is only advantageous for temperature (no ventilation for the most part though, due to closed window in winter).
for years I thought my auric armour gold was fucked and useless
turns out I just needed to get some mixing balls in there and shake
My chaos knight war dog stalker is assembled and the gun hardpoint is magnetized. I think i did pretty good on the base
My latest 40K™️ models for use in hit game Warhammers the 40K™️
Imposter
this is almost alwyas the case or you need to stir it in some cases
Fart hammer
Yippie
Me orks have been primed
yeah, i was just wondering if my PC may have some affect on when i paint. I always have it running to watch something while painting and was just curious if others do the same.
Marina with the Rher engraving skill correct me if im wrong
it can but not really
rad
Sulfur god is cooler tho
Go groth better
nuh uh
imagine worshiping the moon
I put the melta on upside down
God of sulfur is infinitely cooler
Oh yes let the god with a tongue in his only eye socket be cooler, Dude the god of fear and hunger is better
Krieg converted wyvern
ok
He was just using the god tho
He, the janitor, Needles, and the stitches worships the sulfur god
The alll mer church in the city is a front for the sulfur cult
mhm
It had his symbol in the church
same thing with the logic old god
Logic is a new god I thought
No old god
Le garde tried becoming old god but Olivias sister just reached it first
who?
felt
But isn’t the guy in yellow le garde?
Confusing ass lore
thats Frans and The tormented one
I know it’s the tormented on
but yeah, he just revived as a vamp by darce and set off trying to become a old god
much like the god of fear and hunger
It’s been a hot minute since I played the first game
Mauthe doog?
Mauthe, Frap, and Worm girl
Goats
I dunno
oh?
Tbh needle wearing marinas face fucked me up a bit
Flesh lump
mhm
The little girl ascending was crazy
Yeah the sounds made it so
Much worse
As you hear the bones cracking before the gurgling of her new form
Yeah
followed by the harvest coin toss
Lucky
The priest from the mansion was rough
Father Hugo?
No matter who I fight him with I end up losing one of My arms
word?
Lmao
A lot of the moon scorch forms are rough
Yeah but Samaries was just the worst
Weeping scope was just cool tbh
oh definitely
What’s Karin’s moon scorched form supposed to represent
the Valkyrie?
Yeah
It represent how she feels as a reporter, many people see them as Vultures profiting off of others people misery and suffering from wars, but she saw herself as a Valkyrie carrying the fallen tales of thoughs that died in the battlefield.
Ohhh
and she wasn't wrong as many see news reporter and paparazzi as Vultures trying to find a story and run with for the money
As she spatulates the cause of the moonscorching with daan as chemical attack
Daan was the man
The marriage goes nutty
Fucked up
the moonless marriage is fucked up
He’s to big
mhm
It’s sad the every character gets a good ending in B but daan
truly
Hopefully mods won’t find this convo
I got some kommandos and was thinking of turning them invisible
Purple?
Mhm
I forget how orcs work
Green is best because Orks are green.
Blue is lucky.
Black is dead 'ard.
White is deadly.
Purple is sneaky because you've never seen a purple ork.
Yellow is flashy, both with explosions and with fancy gubbins.
Gotta love orc logic
is votann combat patrol worth
debating between tau, votann, or a secret third thing
Do whatever faction you think is cool
look i want to rock and stone but i also don't want to get tabled every game
Getting tabled is the fun part
That why I play guardsman
that's the secret third thing
people who play for the lore > meta list players
real chad dont care win or lose, they make their own story on the table top
So orks
Ork players are the best confirmed
my first mini painted
Ork players are always the funnest!
He looks delightfully nasty! Ina good way lol. Super clean for a first mini
i gave up at the gun and just did it quick and wanted it to be done 7h is enough for me
lmao
I'd hope for my first mini to turn out this good lol
once i finsih my gsc stuff i think ill start working on my storm cast back log
Worked on the sleeve today
oOoOo
Finished the iron warrior auxilia leman russ
not 40k, and not mine, but my sister is painting her first dnd mini :3
hey chat can I get an opinion on something
I represent the chat, yes
I'm not sure what I can do to get my marines a bit more interesting. I paint carcharodons so they're a pretty plain grey with gold trim. I wanna do something to spruce their guns up a bit, at least on the heavier units.
the units I have with cloaks get red or rakarth flesh colour cloaks, and those with chainsowrds get a nice red chainsword casing too. But im currently painting heavy space marines, and i'm realising these guys are gonna be so basic if I just leave the guns black. I was thinking red frame for the bolt rifles they have, would you guys have any other suggestions
I've seen people do tribal art on their Carcharodons and I think those work really well for the chapter
I'm not comfortable doing that purely through lack of talent
it'd look great but i'm not good enough at freehanding
I do wanna do more white half-helmets
fair, but you could approach it as a nice challenge or practice. You'll surely get better at it over time if you're doing an army of them
it's purely for the sake of painting, so I guess it wouldn't hurt. That one ukrainian group that did those gorgeous carcharodons have always amazed me
but the baseline question here was the colour of the gun. I could simply leave it black but I feel that just leaves the model borderline monochromatic
ye they're one of the people that came to mind
it's a pretty monotone scheme overall so I don't think it would hurt either
maybe not flat black but a darker grey
Here’s an example, a nice drybrush-highlighted red for cloak and chainsword casing. Something similar on the boltgun could work
yeah that looks very nice
though I'd probably leave the red accent colours for characters/higher ranking models
you could also try a light grey gun casing
almost white
I was considering white!
I think i'll try that on this guy
i'm kind of half-homebrewing my chapter tbh. I want them to be carcs, but I am in love with so many of the DA models i'm blagging they're a sort of dual-successor of DA and carcs, so I can get away with using deathwing knights and inner circle lol
sounds like a solid plan
grab a pen and a paper, draw them on the paper, then use the pen to draw it on the model.
Easy way of getting skill for it
third party decals can always work too
a page or two should be "good enough"
too much effort
i've seen plenty of third party-made transfers
nahh
less effort than braving freehand
Sealing them correctly so they dont fall off in a few years is
because varnish doesnt actually save them...
brave it
do it
show them what a shark can do
use your teeth if you have to
Been a while since I been around here but I got a question
How well do the tempests scions heads fit with the guardsmen now? I had a older guardsman that I fit a head with and I am looking to recreate that model so curious if anyone knows how well it fits and if the size looks correct or if I should order a a specialized head online
How are you supposed to connect this cape? It’s always up in the air on one side
Finished CF Sarge
The detail on the face is incredible
Blue platemail today
ehh there is a major lack of shading on the metallics
I expect more out of cerberus tbh
he's been dropping in quality as of late sadly
This stuff is such a good Cadia green
Almost makes me want to paint sisters again
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im sorry for your loss
I mean all those military greens are the same, just a basic mixture of something like py150, py42, pg7 and some random black pigment
its a bit lighter than the one ive been useing
Did I go to far with the damage affect
nope. You are like 1/100th of nightshift with your damage
Sweet
I grade damage in a scale based off nightshift
where 1 nightshift is boarding on too much and 10 nightshift is you set the mini on fire and smashed it with a hammer to simulate real damage
A Cadian tank should have a good amount of battle scars
Yes, you have it right too. The turret flew off and the body exploded so only a turret remains
perfect cadian tank
☹️
They moved into Cadia 2
Ehh, it sucks but I was able to pay off my cats surgery in cash, so it was worth the sacrifice
I would have helped out if I knew
I appreciate that! I just really hate asking anybody else for money, my sister does itball the time and I see how much it drains people
Plus once I'm all back to good finances I can just buy them again!
I can't buy another moxxi
The difference this is a cat and not for a person
But now she's all healthy!
Russ
Dude thats actually depressing
I so would have supported a gofundme or just tried to help
Mannn if I just bought your models i could have just held onto them for you
Lol it's no worries guys! Really! It sucks, but it's the right thing to do 🙂 I'm happy I was able to make her feel better
At the end of the day they're just material things.
Plus it's not like I have NOTHING left to paint! I can finally tuck into the zombicide minis I've had for years
I hope whoever got them enjoys them and the process you went through to create them
I sold alot of them local to some of the best ork players around, so they'll still see the table 🙂
I really want to paint my Giga Robo models they r literally juat gundams
YESSSS!!!!
And I didn't sell ALL of them, I still got my kill team 🙂
Oh those are sick, I love the mazinger vibes
But I still have some cyberpunk stuff to paint, threw a base coat on these guys a few days ago
Really like the bases I made for them
Reminds me of gundam
Yeah its hype
Wait
The new cyberpunk skirmish game?
When you try it out please report how it was i was considering splitting it with a friend
Its Alot of fun! Super quick games and the reaction system means you're always doing something
How do you get rid of the shine that decals give
Layer of lahmian medium
Swagged out
precious baby
matte or satin varnish
I got neither
clean your room
All I got
btw you can get a 4oz bottle of that for the same price as that and as a higher quality product too
if you ever want to save some money
its just glaze medium/glaze liquid
It came with the kit of paint i bought
its better than nothing
My local hardware store sells a bunch of model paints I’ll check there for something better
check art stores
or even amazon which isnt that much more expensive than art stores
Don’t have none near me
I dont either so I just order everything online
all you need to really know is when buying mediums go with either golden or liquitex, when buying flow improver go with windsor and newton
golden and liquitex make some of the better mediums on the market but the better ones cost way more than both of them
like double or triple the price
Those two are also compatible with most waterbased acrylic paints on the market
I’ll probably just get a matte and a clear varnish
windsor and newton makes a decent one that can be applied with a brush without issue
it also doesnt leave brush stroke unlike vallejo's
all varnishes are clear technically speaking
Well yeah
btw dont mix varnish into paint
Ik
You probably know a lot of old tricks then
I walked out of work and saw a rocket launch it was fucking sick
train modelers are just built different
what kind of rocket?
