40k-minis-and-armies

[plush swift]

perfection

[short pawn]

I was gonna do something like this for my Tabletop RPG of Warhammer. It was gonna be about a group of inquisition Agents investigating an abnormal clan of Orks in which they worship one of their own they consider the emperor - and are at war with humanity because they think the humans copied them.

Was gonna have the mock space marine chapters be them in different colored metal barrels

[jaunty trail]

The moment when you start stripping paint off 14 year old minis, to repaint them as a new part for your new existing army....

[plush swift]

Herro

[visual turret]

This is V.IV Rusty, checking in

[dawn stream]

Must...have...more...Eldar...

[vale pollen]

Turnin the mini of the month into an ancient

[hollow goblet]

I'm painting my kill team ruler rn and need help with ideas

I'm doing a chaos theme for them, black legion/Vashtorr on the long skinny one and 1 for each chaos god on the face of each normal ruler, I'm putting nurgles rot and making the nurgle one look slimy and gross, using blood for the blood god on the Khorne one, doing a big colour blend in contrast paints for the tzeentch but I have no idea what kind of special effect to do to make the Slaanesh one pop

Suggestions welcome

[edgy jackal]

which kill team is this?

[mint dove]

Watched a video from Juan hidalgo on how to paint easy yellow. It's beautiful

[plush swift]

Is there a way to cover my guardsman faces so I don’t have to paint them

[lament path]

Green stuff balaclavas/dust masks, or get alternate gas mask heads or full helmets

[plush swift]

Sweet

Thanks

[dawn stream]

Dire Avengers in progress

[silver thorn]

if you are trying to do something with paints my go to would be neon paints

glow in the dark paints, super high saturation type stuff

fluorescent

I'm a noob who's never touched fluorescent paints but might be a neat way to distinguish them

[dawn stream]

Dire Avengers finished

[plush swift]

thats not yellow, thats amber

the whole magenta things just makes orange and amber, not yellow with howthe light interacts with it

for actual yellow you want white and violet

god im crotchety in the morning

[visual turret]

My pilot needed a glowy screen

Heehee

[modest kayak]

Gellerpox Infected. Would love to see Nurgling/Glitchlings be added to the game. Imagine areas heavily infected with Nurgle’s blight, with these large blisters that if they burst a small swarm of nurglings pop out of them.

[open stream]

Oh I'd love that

Been saying that too, where in Vermintide they added beastmen, for Darktide the most comfortable addition would probably be to skip directly to demons

Nurglings would be so fun

[vernal mesa]

Those look great! Just finished assembling my own Gellerpox and priming them tomorrow. What color did you use on the pustules? Is that Nurgles Rot on everyone?

[alpine zealot]

Did my best

[plush swift]

The base looks sick

[dawn stream]

WIP more Avengers

[plush swift]

Little guy

[brisk vapor]

kinda pale dead skin thing for the other shoulder, might do something entirely different for it later if this doesn't start feeling like it fits

[mint dove]

Having a pretty fun time with the beast snaggas, gave them all different color pelts

Not my only decision is to do patterns on them or not

[plush swift]

Just a little guy

[rare hornet]

Starting a new boi

[sterile whale]

Gf painted a nurgling.

Her first mini

[brisk vapor]

hell yeah

[plush swift]

Cutie patootie

[white tangle]

What i used to see when seeing an unpainted guardsman to what i have been reprogramed to see now:

[plush swift]

I’m struggling so much painting the armor plates

[vernal mesa]

Looks like if I took a bite of him it would be a whole explosion of various flavors! Or a lot of different really good chocolates.

Basically every new update I want to eat this amazing lil guy more and more!

[brisk vapor]

it is very minty looking

[sterile whale]

Time for Nurgle.

[plush swift]

Tan man

[hollow goblet]

Also how tf did y'all paint the fly swarm in that set?? bc I don't even know where to start

[hollow goblet]

That's probably the most interesting thing I could do, was just gonna be glitter and shitty freehand otherwise lol

[hollow goblet]

Just the rulers that come with the set, no actual team

[hollow goblet]

This is one of them

Not finished obviously but you kinda see what I'm going for

Oh yeah nearly done with my kill team barriers also

Gotta add another a coat of blue rust on the cleaner one and add moss to the dirt on the filthy one

[silver thorn]

have you ever seen those dye festivals?

paint it all crazy like its at a festival/party involving colors

its slanneshi

[vernal mesa]

All I know is trying to not break those things is gonna kill me! But to better answer the question I’m going to follow Midwinter Minis on most of the set.

https://youtu.be/2XqLoWjipnI?si=9nzX67qqZ6NHK-Sx

[plush swift]

That getting turned into a paint scheme would be crazy

[plush swift]

those aare pigments, not dyes

There is a difference

[silver thorn]

okay but

but

not to NON-PHD level art students

xD

[plush swift]

Actually yes

Dyes fade quickly, most pigments dont

this is important to know

Dyes are water soluable, pigments arent

[silver thorn]

or else youll be rainbow colored

for months

xD

[plush swift]

Dyes would make you rainbow colored for months, yes

phthalo makes me hands blue for like a week at the most

and thats a dye like pigment

[silver thorn]

I love the word pthalo

it always makes me think of bob ross

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-pointing-nod-gif-13127635

[plush swift]

he's like the only oil painter ive heard of that like phthalo blue

most use ultramarine

and I call them pussies

[silver thorn]

i did a lot of sketching of like

nature landscapes as a kid

and when i found him it made me really happy

[plush swift]

Bob Ross was the goat

Is there a vehicle only faction

Painting vehicles and knights is lot more fun than painting guys

[silver thorn]

well

knights

Most factions CAN take mostly vehicles I just don't think its optimal

vehicle heavy sisters of battle lists are actually very very good right now

guard/SM can do pretty good tank focused armies

[plush swift]

as he should, he makes most people happy

[tiny cairn]

become a tread head guard player, although youll probably want some infantry

[proven arch]

got a mini of rodin, sadly not correct size to proxy as a model (yet)

the rinda model didn’t come out well so i’ll have to reprint that at somepoint, but at a more correct size

[silver thorn]

wow! very cool!

did you make it yourself?

[compact umbra]

Remember, you can always make a model a statue! The leader of the chaos rebellion getting a statue in his name!

[proven arch]

3d printed, i found the stl online

[plush swift]

First time painting something so small

[hollow goblet]

Yeah problem is I'm doing something kinda similar for the Tzeentch one already,

But honestly with how things are laid out I think I could do a colour blend for the Slaanesh and use green-orange-pink, then go Cyan-Purple-Pink for the Tzeentch one and I have the faces laid out so one side is khorne/tzeentch and the other is Nurgle/slaanesh so it'll be arranged so that there's a sticky one next to a pretty one and I think that'll read as being coherent

[silver thorn]

sounds pretty cool 😎

[faint lantern]

Are you going to create holes for the face plate

[hollow goblet]

Start of converting a space Wolves kill team

[woven saffron]

First Chaplain for me, the sculpt is awesome, but damn when glued together it's a pain to paint

[sterile grail]

which is why i always do subassemblies

[silver thorn]

but its so much fun to build the mini

🙂

[visual turret]

ooooh that green on the boltpistol is lovely

what chapter is this fine fellow @woven saffron

[woven saffron]

Raptors, like all my SM

[visual turret]

very nice

[woven saffron]

Thanks!

[visual turret]

super smooth gradient too

sorry not gradient

uhhhh

the brushwork is basically nonexistant, looks really crisp

[woven saffron]

Thanks again, and yeah, I don't want/like to have any brush strokes, so I glazed with 2 to 3 coat of paint. Black was done with contrast paint with 3 coats too, for keeping details and having a good black without having issue of a big black spot while glazing with the green

[vernal mesa]

Custom based and primed. Can’t wait to start them but wow is it exhausting.

[ocean pendant]

Damn that's basically an entire Chapter

[viscid helm]

@ocean pendant chapter? Ew. Legions are where it's at

[plush swift]

You can also add is a slow dry additive(can't post the actual name it seems), The longer it takes for an acrylic to dry the smoother it will be, and less brushstrokes will be as aparent.

[woven saffron]

Didn't know that trick, good to know, thanks!

[compact umbra]

I love them so much

[plush swift]

Speed drying (like hair drier or using alcohol) will cause the brush strokes to be more preminent, remember that acrylics are a thermoplastic and will respond to tempratures in unexpected ways

[compact umbra]

I would suggest buying 2 of that box just for kitbashes and basing

[lavish crescent]

Legion vs Legion?

Currently mag a dreadnought

[viscid helm]

Let me get my maid knight completed first. Then yes

[brisk vapor]

left leg process tonight

[viscid helm]

Maid knight so far

[lavish crescent]

who made the skirt?

[viscid helm]

Someone I commissioned

[lavish crescent]

ohh

[plush swift]

Holy shit

That goes so hard

[plush swift]

Yes. This is perfect

How much did the dress cost

[royal compass]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[viscid helm]

I have the whole knight commissioned for 200

[plush swift]

Holy

This better be worth it

[alpine zealot]

Just finished my first primaris

[viscid helm]

"Have faith word bearer!"

[plush swift]

I will

[mint dove]

Starting into star wars legions but I'm at a loss when it comes to painting lightsabers. My 2 options are to 1. Paint the blade the color I want then do a white stripe down the center or 2. Paint the entire blade white and layer glazes from the emitter to the tip in more and more layers. Which sounds better?

[plush swift]

Any one have any tips for painting guardsman

[visual turret]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SOMEONE'S MAKING IT

[obsidian tapir]

I got my leviathan dreadnought finished and some other iron warriors

[plush swift]

The blood looks crazy

[obsidian tapir]

Taking the literal approach to the phrase “crimson fist”

[plush swift]

I painted some guardsmen but the they don’t look right

struggling on this mfs

[rare hornet]

Dunno how I feel about the black pipe at the front, thinking it absorbs too much light

Not sure what colour to change it to?

[midnight cairn]

Check out the pictures people shared of painting Star Wars: Imperial Assault figures. Some good stuff there.

[hollow goblet]

Lol that's a mood I've based mind in advance so I don't make a mess of my paintjob but Tzeentch knows when I'm actually going to paint them

[hollow goblet]

Glazes will probably look more like an actual lightsaber.

Personally I'd go what I do for every other glow effect: mix the brightest white you have 1:1 with contrast medium and base everything.

Then do a mix with slightly less medium and whatever colour you want going over. You always end up with some of the undercoat showing generally

[silver thorn]

this is the coolest space marine vehicle

[hollow goblet]

Imperium, why do you keep turning in Tau's homework

[silver thorn]

:>

[hollow goblet]

I think it's just the lenses but it really does look super Tau to me idk

It's too bad planes suck I'd like an excuse to paint my heldrake

[silver thorn]

it has hover

so you can just run it as a floating tank

tell me that aint a sexy transport

20" move over terrain, drop some mortal wounds on the way and BLOOP 10 man proteus kill team with 6 hammers whacking away on your knight

[compact umbra]

Why is this your center piece model

Pls deathwatch

[compact umbra]

Wiay actually this is cool

[silver thorn]

it has STEALTH

and GUNS

and is TANKY

and can transport a TON of dudes

[compact umbra]

SORRY ITS A FLYER I THOGUHT IT BAD

[silver thorn]

IT HAS HOVER

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[vale pollen]

Eyyy, all my anti fly weapons finally have purpose

[silver thorn]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/idk-meme-gif-24416895

[woven saffron]

And finished a Terminator now, damn I need some sleep now

[silver thorn]

raptors?

😎

[woven saffron]

Affirm' sir

[silver thorn]

🫡

[plush swift]

Chunky valk

[plush swift]

thats really not that much honestly, this is a type of thing that can take hours and requires a high degree of skill

Last knight I modifed and painted sold for $3500

took about 100 hours, it way lower than my normal pay but that wasnt a big deal

I mean yeah compared to the hobby 200$ isn’t a lot

But 200$ is still 200$

[vernal mesa]

Yeah, I started glueing them down and realized it would be a pain to dry brush the metal grating or do the ooze under Vulgrar with the models on top. But after doing the Novitiates as so many subassemblies I really just want to have one model to paint without all the mess of trying to pin and paint little bits.

What did you do to make those bases?

[plush swift]

oh yeah, it seems like a lot of money in theory. its why trying to start a career in mini painting commissions is stupid, people expect full armies painted for like $50

but when they see $5000+ they freak out then say "but I can get this army off ebay for $800 thats already painted" but the work on it is awful

I don’t get paying for commission for army painting

That’s like 80% of the fun

Its mostly tournament players

they want something quick and easy that they dont have to do

they dont like building or painting, only playing

Kinda lame ngl

very

[vernal mesa]

Ugh, some of the 3 color tournament paints I've seen are embarrassing

[plush swift]

yes, hence why they generally want a professional to do them, because they look better on camera than a shitty painted one

its a tax write off for them

Painting and getting pissed is for fucking up is like the fun part of the hobby

[vernal mesa]

Especially when it's on a channel like PlayOn and you've got these gorgeous models fighting a 3 color monstrosity. Think they stopped letting there guests bring those armies because the comments were wild

[plush swift]

That’s my least favorite part of the community

Like the lore and painting is so cool

[vernal mesa]

I can think of other parts of the 40k community that are A LOT worse than sloppy lazy 3 color painters (edit)

[plush swift]

Who?

[plush swift]

Sloppy painters is just a skill issue

(I’m one)

[vernal mesa]

Many more political answers, but lets go with the people who doxxed and intimidated Archon of Flesh into leaving the fandom entirely because they didn't like Archon's art.

[plush swift]

Ohhh

I LOVE PAINTING GUARDSMEN

[vale pollen]

Aw damn that paint spill

Least it ain't nuln oil

[plush swift]

Shit happens

[vale pollen]

Yeup

[plush swift]

And it’s old

[vale pollen]

My healing mat has a brown tint cuz of spills

[plush swift]

Lmao

I love this thing

[vale pollen]

The chainsaw arm tho

[plush swift]

I might get another one

He needs a friend

[vale pollen]

Can't have that, lil dude's gonna be lonely

[plush swift]

Might make a scout variant

[plush swift]

its sadly a lot of this community who do that

[hollow goblet]

I used Vallejo mud to build up a texture, built it up extra high around the edges to make a kinda "bowl" in the centre, then used an olive pigment powder/dirty off-white drybrush for colour, then filled the middle in with a massively thick coat of Vallejo vomit, making sure not to disturb it too much so there's no streaks and it dries smooth, while it's drying I deposited nurgles rot kinda here and there to give colour variation and then most of them I went over afterwards with a super thinned down fluro yellow

Oh yeah and dirty down moss for the top layer/pondscum

[plush swift]

you can make a better less toxic moss effect very easily

if you're interested that is

also cheaper

[hollow goblet]

It kinda sucks anyway ngl. Idk wtf midwinter did with theirs but it actually looked like moss when they used it

I'm pretty sure I can just mix a dark green into contrast medium with a tiny bit of gloss and call it a day

[plush swift]

he edits his videos heavily and makes things way more sensationalized and seem way better than they are

[hollow goblet]

It looks like contrast paint when you're using it except it stinks like fuckin hair spray

[plush swift]

yeah its pretty much the same thing

the rust is neat but ultimately useless for doing them if you have, the verdiris is aalso useless

[hollow goblet]

Yeah I already have Vallejo rust and nihilak oxide for those effects and they've served me pretty well so far

Nihilak oxide in particular I adore, I love FX paints that apply with the same logic as the thing they're replicating if that makes sense

[plush swift]

The political side of the community is a actual turn off

[plush swift]

nihilak oxide is also super easy to mix up

Like a always see dudes who type a paragraph when they see a female space marine

[plush swift]

yeah its garbage, hence why I avoid twitter and reddit.

Fair

There’s quite a bit of it on insta tho

[hollow goblet]

I'm not sure how to state this without pissing people off but Warhammer fans have the most potent and bipolar autism of any fangroup of any franchise and it's not even slightly close

It's like you've mixed the most extreme forms of having super niche interests, absolutely no social skills or empathy.

It's the only franchise where you're just as likely to find unironic 4th reichers as you are to find trans furries and you're more likely to find either of those than a normal, well adjusted human being

[plush swift]

I dunno man tf2 has the same bipolar autism

[plush swift]

insta is just zoomer facebook

[hollow goblet]

I've literally had to tell people who have come up to me to chat about Warhammer in my LGS to get the fuck away from me before because they manage to cross some social line in a 5 minute conversation that's so bad I actually feel the need to get confrontational and I'm almost never a confrontational person

[plush swift]

True that

[plush swift]

I mean, Ive seen worse communities but after covid the 40k fanbase is hyper unfriendly towards people with autism unless its the alt-right, which makes things way worse

Nazis always gotta ruin shit

[hollow goblet]

Like there's this one guy whos a massive Krieger fanboy who will like full volume sing WW2 German war songs and stuff and it is the only thing he ever wants to talk about

[plush swift]

They ruined a perfectly good war according to the english

[plush swift]

See I'm a massive krieg fan but I'm also a fan of WWI and WWII french military things, which is what krieg is based off of...

[plush swift]

Be carful of krieg fanboys

[hollow goblet]

My hobby time is spent exclusively with my actual IRL friend group, Warhammer randoms are too much of a gamble socially lol

Yeah that's my favourite part they should be Steel Legion fanboys if anything

[plush swift]

Exactly

And just like the nazis, they try to erase france's history

I love being a jungle fighters fan

[hollow goblet]

Based Chem Dogs enjoyer here

[plush swift]

I think i figured out my knights actually

dkok knights

the most uncanonical thing ever

[hollow goblet]

Let me run my elite berserker guard infantry GW just copy and paste the fyreslayer rules if you gotta

Massive gas mask

HUGE SHOVEL

[plush swift]

Modified knight helms to have a more gas mask vibe, yes

and honestly this new rotary tool I got is the reason why i decided to do this

I want to see a guardsman fight with no vehicle or artillery

I can actually get the precision holes I need now

It just took getting a proxxon to do it...

My wallet hurts

[hollow goblet]

If I ever collect guard it's going to be infantry guard tanks are cringe and lame

[plush swift]

I love the way you think

[plush swift]

Take that back

Nah

Tanks are overrated as shit

[hollow goblet]

It's a huge part of why I play ksons lol I actually really don't like them or mechs

[plush swift]

Mine arent, I kitbashed mine and replaced the barrels for metal ones

That’s sick

[hollow goblet]

Tau's entire visual design is a huge miss for me. You had a chance to make a covenant race and you decided to.....make an army out of shit another company already does better and has a super dedicated fanbase for..nice

Give me my psychic fucking owlbears GW

[plush swift]

Thank god I’m not a tau player

I would be fuming

[plush swift]

Oh so like everything GW does?

[hollow goblet]

I deal in facts and fact accessories

[hollow goblet]

As someone who's primary reason for wanting to play at all was playing emps children: yes

They need to get her archaic business model together

[plush swift]

What faction do you play slpiff

[hollow goblet]

Ksons and a bit of demons/csm

I have a tonne of random kill teams tho bc it's easier to get irl friends who are on the fence to play

Still waiting on the other half of my range for ksons lol

[plush swift]

the most fashionable army

wait

I love ksons marines

@hollow goblet Like these colors?

Best looking chaos faction

[hollow goblet]

That's probably closer to the way I'd highlight my magenta stuff for ksons, EC I've always preferred the rich purple/gold vibe

[plush swift]

these are extinct pigments im trying to make and use for my armies

PV49 cobalt violet

[hollow goblet]

Ooo that's clean asf. Hot pink is like notoriously difficult to make right?

I've heard it's an absolute pain to mix/use almost no matter what

[plush swift]

This is but mostly because its incredibly toxic

you can mix a similar color witth quinaridone but its not the same as this

[hollow goblet]

Yeah I remember reading some article in your server about how a lot of the best paint pigments are insanely toxic and finding substitutes that are safe is super tricky

[plush swift]

yep

Like we have an alternative to cobalt blue which is more blue than cobalt blue is, but the cost of it is extremely high and thats yinmn

Cobalt blue isnt really toxic at all, but its envrionmental and ethical concerns are the problem

Do it taste good

no

[vernal mesa]

Heard it jokingly said if the "think tanks" and "war game" people of the cold war had had 40k, we might not have had as long of a Vietnam war or cold war in general. 40k is the niche hobby that lets people push little soldiers around a map and feel awesome without the whole real life bloodshed. That also means it is the funnel/silly slide for all the worst people to sink down into.

[plush swift]

☹️

[vernal mesa]

You might not have seasoned it right then. Next time add a pinch of salt to enhance the flavours.

[short pawn]

Coworker suggested i should paint my guardsmen as german and did the nazi salute

I was just sitting there like this

https://tenor.com/view/depressed-spongebob-sad-window-reaction-tired-gif-10253815500718173973

[compact umbra]

NO WAY

NOOOOOWAY

[short pawn]

It's terrifying being a nonconforming individual here fr

[wise shuttle]

guh

[plush swift]

Sounds like you live in the southern US

[short pawn]

Nope

I live in baja california but a sub section that happens to be...weird

[plush swift]

ouch

[short pawn]

It is not baja california idk why i said that

Im south western CA

Im basically next to baja california

Does anybody here PLAY necromunda?

[proven arch]

nope

[lavish crescent]

407 guardsmen for 9th edition

[hollow goblet]

They always get super defensive and weird when you tell them to fuck off

"It's just a joke man"

Yeah sure, unless I'd agreed with you: then it wouldn't have been

[lavish crescent]

Btw that's 2k army

Haven't checked 10th yet

[short pawn]

I'm only going to say this once and i will drop it but they once whispered to me "we wont get any raises because we're white"

He said this like minutes after i got a raise

[hollow goblet]

Necromunda exists to sell genestealers lol

[short pawn]

Nooo necromunda is sick

Their gangs are overpriced forgeworld resin as is!

[hollow goblet]

The gangs make good cultists for chaos armies too

I've seen some sick Escher gang Slaansh/khorne cultists

[short pawn]

You should really look into the rules for necromunda they are sick

My buddy and I are gonna do a campaign over tabletop simulator

[hollow goblet]

I've never really looked into it. I tend to not really enjoy regular tabletop games its mostly the skirmish/war games that stand out to me atm

[short pawn]

Well it is skirmish

But its super narrative heavy

[hollow goblet]

I mean, I do enjoy the lore element of the franchise, wanna run a 40k DnD campaign at some stage just gotta work out the kinks converting stuff

[short pawn]

Your models like progress and level up as you battle out scenarios and fight over terroritory

Its sick

[hollow goblet]

Kinda like narrative kill team?

[plush swift]

How do you get rid of a cup of mineral spirits and isopropyl alcohol

[lavish crescent]

232 infantry plus 3 heavy weapon squads

1,970 points

[plush swift]

Thanks

[short pawn]

Yes!

But with like sick skill trees and actual narrative decisions (im not sure if the skill trees were homebrewed rules but they seemed cool)

Lots of immersion

[vernal mesa]

Umm… why bash dnd into 40k when there are already several rpgs that focus on 40k. Or even an open system like genysis.

Dnd is too focused on “kill the enemy and loot the room” to really capture 40k. Either your super powered and don’t bother with loot or you’re weak and squishy and need to be able to run and accumulate wounds and mutations.

[vernal mesa]

https://www.reddit.com/r/killteam/comments/10gtgfo/acolyte_a_kill_team_adventure_game/

Acolyte is a similar fan made version with kill team as a base.

[short pawn]

Thats sick!

[hollow goblet]

I like the DnD archetypes and adapting them into different universes is half the fun

Like I'm soft reworking Warlock and Paladin to work via the warp gods and I enjoy the process of figuring out what I'd change and where to make it function, I much prefer that to boring myself trying to learn how someone else's pre-made system works

[vernal mesa]

I understand the joy of trying to make something fit… I just really love how Dark Heresy and Only War had wounding and crits that affect you more than “do they still have 1hp? They behave as if full hp”

Couldn’t care less about the mechanics of war games… but mechanics of rpgs are my thing and DnD has always felt bland and binary.

[hollow goblet]

@plush swift Ninjon just released a video just shitting all over most hobby paints, might be a redemption arc lol

He's validated my extremely strong belief that scale75 sucks ass so he's winning so far imo

[hollow goblet]

Yee I like RPG's on paper but I think you need to find the right group for them or they just don't work

[plush swift]

Scale 75 does suck ass

[vernal mesa]

True… it’s just a bit sad that most people only know DnD and don’t want to learn a system that might fit better thematically in the mechanics. Romcom rpg? DnD! Drama and murder mystery? DnD!

Also… 1 minutes into that Ninjon video and I’m angry that he had that much paint on the wall to begin with!

[plush swift]

yeah he's not a very good painter either but everyone thinks he is

hot take I know

[vernal mesa]

But I guess if you’re sent huge boxes for promo work you’re going to collect a lot. Still. Love some other YouTubers that are just like “hell yeah I use cheap shitty craft paint to paint this terrain. Why would I waste 20 bottles if I can get a bucket?!”

[vernal mesa]

Just got to be better than most people and commit to making the content. The controversy drives clicks and comments and you get more engagement.

[plush swift]

hes an award winning painter too but if you look at his work, its very sloppy

the only reason why I even say anything is because he has won awards

so, this opens you up to criticism

[vernal mesa]

I understand. I’m not anywhere close to that level, just enjoy deconstructing things. He’s making more from the hobby than I am.

[plush swift]

Oh same here

its part of my learning process

[vernal mesa]

Also, the comments begging for him to give away the paint or share it are hilariously thirsty. Half of what he said he was ditching were in fact just moved off the shelf for later. So it was really just a reorganizing and promotion of the new box

[plush swift]

sounds like him

[lavish crescent]

Scale 75 was good when I needed to find a weird grey, other than that I'm going to two thin coats range rn

Also will say Dwarven Gold is actually based

[sterile grail]

its a smart marketing move business perspective. You praise content creators, you give them incentives to market towards potential customers and spark their interest.

Of course any professional painters and others may disagree and have hot takes, but so far that's the general consensus.

I have seen extremely hyper realistic hobby painters on instagram and they didnt win any awards as far as i can tell. They just do it because they love it.

[hollow goblet]

Their metals are the exception their gold and decayed metal are probably my most used

[plush swift]

Two thin coats, the most expensive acrylic paint in the world.

But yeah scale metallics are ok, but they're not great for doing a true metallic medal look, They are just not shiny enough for that

[plush swift]

Oh it's very smart, That's why you tend to give them so much paint and then they tend to hang it up on their wall that's why it's always in the background

[sterile grail]

its free promotions, sounds like a win to me. The cost of the those paints arent that much compared to the marketing interests they are getting (unless its bad review)

I do hope more quality paints gets better treatment if they step up their game a bit

[hollow goblet]

Hobby artists and "true" artists are never gonna be the same group of people tho, that's kinda the whole issue with this sort of thing

It doesn't seem like many popular hobby painters (especially on YT) have any real formal art education, they're kinda just winging it, which would absolutely appeal more to the average "beer and pretzels" player bc it's achievable and human

I have a pretty big music background and this sort of thing reminds me of the constant war between formal jazz/classical music education vs EDM and punk, the genres don't really lend themselves to the approach of the other camp, and as much as I love Jazz, a lot of it is just esoteric wanking and trying to find as many permutations of a musical idea as you can without really trying to make music and it loses most people's ear even if it's impressive

Whereas punk has this "c'mon dude: I could spend a week learning guitar and shit out better riffs than this daily" thing to it: but people tend to connect with it more, art isn't a meritocrasy: it's art

Sorry for rant I'm several beers in

[plush swift]

Jazz punk exists, it's just called industrial

I've heard it, it's weird

[plush swift]

That's the thing, higher quality paints don't need to do that because they already dominate the market.

I've also noticed that the best paint companies tend to have the least amount of advertising, while the ones that advertise the most tend to also be some of the lower quality things. Like pro acryl

A good example is golden, They make more money than all of the hobby paints combined on paint sales supposedly. It's hard to track down the exact numbers for how much these companies are worth

Proacryl is not great, It's just better than a lot of the dog shit hobby paint everyone is used to. It doesn't make it a good paint.

[hollow goblet]

Oh dw I've heard every permutation of jazz lol it's an incredibly broad and easy genre to hybridize, but in a formal setting it's very traditional and they tend to turn their nose up at fusion genres and anything modern

Industrial is completely different btw lol it's more of a heavily textured heavy metal/hardcore generally

[plush swift]

Get more deeper into the industrial scene, it's closer to glitch these days.

A lot of the old stuff was fusion genres like disco punk.

The big ones are more towards the metal side like NIN and Rammstein

I think it was ministry who was disco punk but it could have been skinny puppy. I was never super into either one so I don't remember

Also most jazz musicians are wankers so it all makes sense

[hollow goblet]

I mean trying to actually hard define any kind of rock-derivative genre after like 2000 is a bit of a fruitless endeavour anyways the second the internet popped up people have been obsessed with hybridizing everything and redefining genres based on the scene they came out of

New wave and post-punk are literally the same thing and most of the core genres are just people arriving at death metal via different base genres

[plush swift]

Horrorterrorcore is totally not death metal with electronica... Totally not

[hollow goblet]

Yeah it's tricky tho bc it genuinely does take an extremely high degree of technical proficiency to play jazz but it always hits a point where it just stops being music and I feel like a lot of people feel the same way w formal art stuff vs mini painting

Like as far as their minis go most people are pretty happy plucking their slightly out of tune P bass and don't really aspire for more

[plush swift]

Which is fine, as doing formal art gets... let's just say dadaism leave it at that

I am a fan of dadaism, but it's something most will look at and say "that's not art, that's just a bicycle on a ceiling"

Which is entirely the point

It's there to mock the art industry, nothing more

[hollow goblet]

I think both have a similar level of like grindy, brain numbing skill-honing and can jump off into being really abstract and hard to understand for most people pretty quickly

[plush swift]

Yes, incredibly true

Mini painting is still paint by numbers which is a bit devoid of artistic drive and passion, which sounds offensive but it isn't. Lego is the same way, but you still feel accomplished after completing a kit.

[hollow goblet]

I've always been a big fan of impressionist/abstract art but I do find the modern stuff a little hard to stomach if you don't have a blurb explaining the super clever satire it's making abour consumerism

[hollow goblet]

I think that's why I like it tbh, the only aspect of visual art I was ever any good at was colour theory. So big boy colouring in is essentially exactly what I was after

[plush swift]

Yep, And if you want to you can change that, you can make it so that it's not paint by numbers.

It's a good hobby because there's so many variables to it

[hollow goblet]

Would like to get to the point where I can maybe freehand banners but I don't need to go around collecting the creativity infinity gauntlet I already have a half finished book and album lmao

[plush swift]

Do it

Finish the book

[lofty bridge]

The perfect amount

[lavish crescent]

Did the math due to the fact that GW said back in 9th it took 150 guardsmen to kill Angron. I wanted to see how far I could took that

[eternal ivy]

work in progress pic for Be'lakor

[lavish crescent]

It mainly uses conscripts and was "playable"

[eternal ivy]

its been so freeing to get into a creative hobby like this after being told my whole life i could never do a visual medium like painting or drawing bc of my disability :D

[lavish crescent]

I know and don't know what you mean xD, I've always had shit hand eye cords but hey it's nice now. And I'm happy for you to find something that brings you joy!

[eternal ivy]

ah yeah i have dyspraxia which is hand eye so bad it is diagnosable so im right there with ye

[plush swift]

yeah naw fuck that, there are tons of dyspraxic artists

those people are idiots who tell you that

Art is about expression

If you're super concerned about clean painting, just use shield, frisket, museum putty, etc

and if you're a perfectionist, get something like a cricut and cut out friskets sheets with it

there are ways to do everything and by pass everything

actually thats a good idea... I should sell friskets/shields for mini painting designed for people with things like dyspraxia

I have all the tools for it

laser cutters, etc

[hollow goblet]

Also I don't have dyspraxia but I do have a mild hand tremor and I find having something to lean your hands on makes all of the difference

I was able to almost pinstripe freehand on my kill team ruler purely bc I was able to support my hand against the mini while I did it and it kept the line straight

[floral wind]

My mildy converted krieg sergeant

[brisk vapor]

Loadsa green today, mostly focusing on the backside

[left egret]

What paints did you use

[plush swift]

Green

[visual turret]

no wya

[barren verge]

Okay so. First pal is dead. Forgot to thin paint like idiot

[brisk vapor]

the blue is very strong so just a dash of it for the very brightest highlights

And a touch of this for the shades

[barren verge]

[brisk vapor]

these six are basically all of the paints I've used for the model thus far

[plush swift]

My 3D printer squirted on me

[left egret]

Interesting... both the paints and the printer

[plush swift]

phthalo pigments are considered nightmare pigments because their tint strength is obserbly high, only a few pigments can come close and even they fail to tame phthalos, you need such a small amount to make an acrylic too. The issue is they are also one of the most problematic pigments to make paint from since they require such specific amounts of wetting agent that there isnt a handbook for at all as every company has decided thats a trade secret

its roughly around 1-3% in volume which is an obscene amount of wetting agent, most pigments that need it are around 0.1-0.5%

[plush swift]

Wear safety goggles

[eternal ivy]

I may have hyperfocused a bit.

[plush swift]

I got normal glasses so I’m good

[plush swift]

I’m good with me hands

[plush swift]

as long as the resin doesnt get into your eyes

[mint dove]

My warboss feels a little plain, what could I add to him to make him pop?

[jade swift]

I'd say give him some orky boots and scratch off the dark angels symbols so u can paint a real symbol

He's just too space marine still

[mint dove]

Good advice! Here's my plan

1. Scratch off all the symbols and paint that area as bare metal
2. Add more spiky bits to the shoulder, shield,
3. Make a custom Boss pole of space marine helmets and other trophies,
4. Put a skull as the other pauldron
5. Make smokestacks on the back piece
6. After painting the yellow, heavily battle damage

I may leave the chest Aquila and just paint it a gaudy gold

[plush swift]

It’s insane how much cooler the steel legions is compared to the krieg

[floral wind]

Without them we wouldnt have Krieg. They started off as just a paint scheme for the Steel Legion

Need to get me some SL at some point

[plush swift]

clean up the mold lines and add more crude spikes

Free sentinel

[mint dove]

Hobby knife gon be working overtime tonight

[plush swift]

it would be insane if they were'

[plush swift]

I need to teach you how to sculpt plasticard dont I?

its super good for orky conversions

[mint dove]

I wouldn't say no to that, I have some plasticard I'm just terrible at working with it

The most I've done are wood slats for my badrukk base

[plush swift]

I meeeaaan

[plush swift]

they arent

[plush swift]

We are all entitled to our opinion even tho they might be wrong

[plush swift]

True, your opinion is wrong

Erm buddy not to be that guy buut I think your wrong

Nope, they have lamer gas masks

and worse drip

Steel legion have better drip

[signal plover]

so true, speak your truth, the K in krieg is for kringe

[plush swift]

Thank you

I speak nothing but the truth

nope sorry

[plush swift]

oh no, krieg is totally cringe, and the fan base is far worse, but they have better drip

[plush swift]

HONK MI MI MI😴

[plush swift]

thats steel legion

Nah

It’s me when I see a kreiger

[plush swift]

sure, its not hard to do, even more so since you're making it orky

[plush swift]

almost reads as actual wood

[mint dove]

Thanks! I'm pretty proud of it

[plush swift]

its a sign of improvement

Yippie

[hollow goblet]

Finished my swampy barrier

Sun is bright asf rn lighting for pics is awkward

[silver thorn]

listen I like glossy finish

i think glossy and a bit cartoony looking is better

than matte

[dawn stream]

More Dire Avengers

[visual turret]

I'm so pumped to get this mini done

Idk what colour to do the faceplate tho

[silver thorn]

does anybody know of an app that lets you put a weapon profile and a defensive profile into and it tells you the average damage?

statistics is hard for my tiny brain and I want an easy way to visualize damage

[royal compass]

is he carrying a Knight's head on his back?

[visual turret]

just the faceplate

yes

[royal compass]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-barack-why-shrug-gif-13540987034857193291

[visual turret]

because it's fuckin cool?????

[royal compass]

understandable, have a good day

[short pawn]

what if the knights face plate falls off how is he gonna look cool

you keep spare tires tied to your back right

[visual turret]

it's chained on

it's a relic

[royal compass]

I could see the Marine grab the chain and smash heretics with the faceplate tbh

like this guy from Guilty Gear

[visual turret]

oh goldlewis?

yeah I can see that

[royal compass]

https://tenor.com/view/goldlewis-dickinson-guilty-gear-strive-goldlewis-giilty-gear-guilty-gear-gif-24631569

[edgy jackal]

If you don't account for rerolls or special rules (such as lethal hits), it's fairly doable to setup in excel.

Oh, found something
https://www.rolegenerator.com/en/module/w40k

[mint merlin]

Man, I just spent 3 hours removing paint from 33 miniatures with a toothbrush
I hate every second of it, and I have about 40 more minis to do that way

at least they were cheap

does an ultrasound bath make all the paint go away on its own, or is there still a toothbrush paint removal step after it?

I've been using a 96% alcohol solution btw, in France it's called "burning alcohol", idk how in other countries
it's basically ethanol with 4% of other stuff

[silver thorn]

ty

[silver thorn]

oh those jewelry cleaner things? never thought about trying to get paint off with it

maybe you can soak it in the solvent and then strip it in the bath

[midnight cairn]

The Forces app has that as a paid feature. It's the one where you can import your list from Battlescribe.

[silver thorn]

MY FACE IS MY SHIELD???

[visual turret]

That's his back

[rare hornet]

HIS BACK IS HIS SHIELD

[plush swift]

these things dont work well tbh.
Takes about 120 hours on average to clean a mini

But I've had it take over 800 hours before

[mint merlin]

But you could put a lot of minis at once in it, no? Because if so, that still makes it a lot shorter than the 3h I had to do manually for 30 minis

[plush swift]

not really, it just makes it take even longer and at that point, the solvents have killed the plastic

what it does is free up your time

so you can do other things

but I prefer having an employee manually clean something than be down a tool for several days

[mint merlin]

ah, well
back to the toothbrush it seems, then

[plush swift]

that are also weirdly dangerous

they super heat the liquid inside so half the solvents people recommend will create toxic fumes, the other half will explode or catch fire

[edgy jackal]

What are they good for then?

And how bad are ultrasonic 5% concentrate solutions for mini plastic (e.g. ticopuur r 33)?

[plush swift]

no idea, they are good for reducing your own working time, thats about it

[plush swift]

Dont know, I only tried a few

[mint merlin]

I was talking about those because I saw videos of people using them to strip minis

But finally, after a whole afternoon of stripping manually, here's the results

It's not perfect (there's still a few paint spots), it'll be almost as new when primed

[plush swift]

I striped some paint off one of my Guardsman and made him into a burn victim

[errant crescent]

"WE'RE DA MEANEST AND GREENEST 'DERE IZ!"

Finished up this Warboss last night.

[young sparrow]

C r u s t

[plush swift]

Goop fellow

[mint dove]

Added the last little bit, wanted to make the axe a Halberd but instead of another blade, a shoota

I also wanted to add as many power sources as I could to the back to make it look like he's super charged the armor

[main mango]

Botta get some skulls for the skull throne

[plush swift]

What green did you use for the base

Got all the base colors

[hollow yoke]

First solar auxilia done

[mint dove]

Last addition to My warboss, added these space marine trophies on the bosspole. Proper orky or too much?

[hollow yoke]

WAIT A MINUTE

[short pawn]

Is it supposed to be a requisitioned power armor or an ork construct?

[mint dove]

Let's say "Borrowed and refined"

[short pawn]

Thars how it reads i love jt

Good work

[mint dove]

His name is Gazreel, Warboss of da deff angels

I wrote lore

Very slow day at work

Now my only dilemma is ejat chapter to paint the helmets as

[hollow goblet]

I reckon some teef added to the armour wouldn't go astray tbh, gives you a way to counterbalance all of the small imperium details

[mint dove]

I wish I had some spare teef bits

[hollow goblet]

Do you have greenstuff? they're relatively easy to sculpt if you make them a little more canine, molars are sorta hard to make tho imo

Or it's pretty easy to make like a whole lower jaw if you get a thinner piece, make a bunch of small balls and dent the top of them in with an x shaped tool and put them on the skinny bit

[mint dove]

Yeah I have green stuff. Never really messed with it tho

[hollow goblet]

Don't think I have pics but I made one for a friend's seraphon one time

I'll see if he;ll send

[hollow goblet]

https://youtu.be/LPq84km-ckE?si=RPP5KBLjPPfM-Kpr

this vid will probably do the trick for what I was talking about at first tho]

[hollow yoke]

It’s done but god I wish I had soilworks snow and Vallejo frost paint to really bring it up

[mint dove]

Like this?

[hollow goblet]

yeah pretty much exactly that, add a little size variation for different species and you're golden I reckon

Like heaps of tyrannids have super long skinny teeth, orks tend to be pretty girthy, I imagine aeldar teeth are tiny, makes the warboss seem more badass like they've rolled a bunch of other species on top of the imperium

[mint dove]

I may scrap that idea

Because these are NOT reading as teeth

But as always, my ever faithful companion, bits bit, comes in clutch

Also for the shield, I was thinking of doing tally marks all over it, like he keeps track of how many enemies it immolates, I think that would look cooler than a painted symbol

[rare hornet]

Funnily enough a base spray paint of death guard green

[simple thorn]

I has minis

And I still got the Warriors and Scarabs to do

Sidenote: I fucking hate the easy-join pegs
They fucking aren't. And with how pointy some of the Necron bits are, they're a stabbing hazard when trying to get them to join flush

And now some Etsy and Sigmar

[plush swift]

roll a blunt shape, bend it, let it dry, carve it a little

[plush swift]

I might re paint my guardsmen army

I got a really good idea for a paint scheme and theme

[midnight cairn]

Well, boss has turd collection. Nottin wrong with that...

[lavish crescent]

Love the paint jobs just one thing. Nice finger xD

[simple thorn]

Finger isn't in any of them. Phone casing is a one-size-fits-all thing. Part of it covers the camera if I don't pull it back

And thank ye

[lavish crescent]

Lmfao xD, fair but seriously based paint job brother. Love the bases too!

Also I know what you mean by hating push fit. First box I owned I ended up breaking the necron arms because they were push fit

[dusty nimbus]

Work on my converted tank

[karmic heart]

Igron appruv

Fumbs up

[plush swift]

How do I paint a cammo pattern on a small model

[plush swift]

I’m having trouble making this read as camo

[white tangle]

What do i use when wanting to stick resign to gw plastic?

[plush swift]

Finger

[plush swift]

resign? do you mean resin or? if so, super glue is your best option, but there are tons of options that technically have a stronger bond

[plush swift]

What kind of camo are you after?

Take this as a reference, there are tons more too

[plush swift]

Μ81

I’m trying to go far a cold war camo look

[plush swift]

so basically you're not far off, you just need more patterning

[white tangle]

Nope, i meant what i said. i quit. (i cant talk nor spell apparently. ty!)

[white tangle]

The way i would go about painting that camo would be: Base green, big random splotches of brown, small stringy splotches of tan then small stringy splotches of black. Dk how much that helps but hey.

[plush swift]

How would to translate that to a guards man figure

[white tangle]

Same process

Wait theres a good video that i remember i started with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8H-pUFHe3Q

I remember i applied similar techniques when painting my things.

Although tbf he didnt show how to do a forest camo.

[plush swift]

I got the idea

[plush swift]

copy the patterns above as best as possible

[toxic rampart]

If you are airbrushing, painters tape, set it on and VERY carefully cut sections out for what colors you want.

[vernal mesa]

Instead of painters tape, you could use blue tack to better make the shapes or best easy peel liquid latex for watercolor.

[plush swift]

Just free ball it

and not care about the mistakes

[oblique socket]

or just paint over your mistakes with a brush later

[plush swift]

naw, thats what professionals do

[hollow goblet]

Superglue generally regular plastic glue doesn't really affect resin from what I've found

[hollow goblet]

Also don't stress if each detail on each individual splotch aren't 100% right away, other people aren't agonizing over every brush stroke the way you are when you're painting: they're just taking in the composite effect of the paint you've put down

oop wrong reply lol

[plush swift]

you're not wrong at all

[hollow goblet]

Knocked my "desk" and sent everything flying, genestealers made a valiant effort to keep each other alive lol

[white tangle]

What would be the best way to gapfill on a resin model?

[visual turret]

how big's the gap?

[plush swift]

UV cure resin, epoxy putty, super glue, etc

[plush swift]

Moon shine

[floral wind]

My DK kill team are coming along nicely

[short pawn]

@plush swift I'm looking to pick up a brand beige that looks like this, any suggestions? I've just been using white paint stained with a heavy seraphim sepia wash

[plush swift]

What did you use for the under coat

[plush swift]

I mean, my first recommendation is always to mix it yourself, its basically just white with something like tau xv69 or w/e it is. its white with yellow ochre effectively.

but a few decent brands make aa convenience color beige like lukas.

example

you dont need everything there to mix it, just close enough

there is that beige chart

and here is the website if you want to see and experiment on your own

https://goldenartistcolors.com/mixer/acrylic

just swap it to single pigment

[short pawn]

I think i actually got their raw sienna

No nvm i think i got burnt

[plush swift]

their burnt seinna is fantastic for rust effects

[short pawn]

Interesting im glad if wasnt a dud purchase

Thanks for the site I'll be taking a gander

[short pawn]

Corax white

[plush swift]

I meant the fatigues

[short pawn]

Oh castellan green

[plush swift]

Love the snow theme

[short pawn]

Tyvm!

[plush swift]

Leggys

[rare hornet]

Got the body done

[plush swift]

naw, a lot of things from them tend to be incredibly useful, some have niche uses cases like ultramarine violet but when you need them you need them

[short pawn]

Yeah ik i just never had a use for it as is

Dont know why i bought it tbh

[sweet sinew]

What terrifying abomination is this? (Amazing work btw)

[plush swift]

its very good for modiying colors too, its a mainstay on most palettes

[short pawn]

Do we have any greenstuff magicians here

[plush swift]

yes

[short pawn]

Whom

[plush swift]

me

[short pawn]

Real?

[plush swift]

yes

[short pawn]

Do you know how to get a good fur texture

Mine sucks

[plush swift]

A few ways yes

depends on the type of fur

[short pawn]

Winter clothing type fur

Like ushanks and fur cuffs

Ushanka

Also if you have any advice on getting the bedroll across their chest to look better im all ears

[plush swift]

the two ways I would personally do that is to grab something that has a rough texture and just apply it, anything from super crinkled up tin foil to a very stiff brush.

The other way I would do it is more tricky and has to do with using a metal dental hook by doing a poke and minor pull almost directly next to each hole you maake

if you have something with a plastic grip that has texture, that can work

[plush swift]

i mean, I just make a flat sheet of the stuff then roll it up and apply it

[short pawn]

Thank you

[proven arch]

inspired by the moebian 6th

[short pawn]

Oh yeah i was doing that with my citadel sculpting tools (obviously not correctly) but I'm glad i was on the right track

[short pawn]

Looking to build a removable roof for my modular third party gothic buildings, do you guys think cardstock would support the weight of miniatures?

If not, any suggestions?

[short pawn]

@plush swift apologies for ping, but is there a way to remove very old and cured green stuff from model?

[oblique socket]

nail file?

[plush swift]

it doesnt adhere very well so you can technically just peal it up

[plush swift]

yes, it can. But plasticaard would be better

[short pawn]

PLASTICARD is what i meant to say instead of carstock lolll

Thats funny thanks

But yeah these dont read how i thought they would

Sniper is supposed to have a poncho the spotter is supposed to have heavy parka hood and mittens

[plush swift]

Does this read better as cammo

[rare hornet]

Death guard bloat drone

[visual turret]

The cleanness of your work always impresses me

Pun not intended here

[visual turret]

Your patches are too large but it’s getting there!!

Looks like you’re doing British standard camo right?

Here’s one painted the other day for my eliminators. My recommendation is to start with the light colour and move down but whatever works for you

[visual turret]

Actually i suppose vehicles will have larger patches hm

[rare hornet]

Thank you!! Yours is always amazing too!

[hollow goblet]

Realised a little too late that making the dead marine for my friends tfex base into a blood angel would kinda cover up the gore element but oh well

It's meant to be like a tribute for a friend of ours who passed when we were in highschool who collected BA

Incredibly grim, but we both appreciate it lol

[median flame]

Got some new blue highlight paints and feeling nice about em

[plush swift]

No, the red throws it off

[mint merlin]

I want to paint an order of lazarus-themed army, which were a crusader order of knights of healers and later warriors. Since it's a whf army, I want to replace the green cross with a green symbol of shallya (a dove with a key in the beak). However, I can't freehand for shit, what else could I use (that's simple shapes, easier to freehand) to replace the dove? Or how could I represent that dove and key more easily?

[plush swift]

https://www.amazon.com/Hayes-Paper-Waterslide-Water-Slide-Transparent/dp/B077TMFVL9?th=1

also comes in white

[edgy jackal]

Stencils and an airbrush could also work, but tranfers for the dove are probably easier

[mint merlin]

ooh

good ide'a

[tiny cairn]

I've been looking at different ways to seal cardboard, I've seen wood glue and mod podge, does anyone have anything else or a preference?

[plush swift]

I would eat eat tbh

[silver thorn]

https://youtu.be/m3p_VuPIS2c

[plush swift]

Those two will be the easiest and cheapest options to use, the best is a conservation material but its expensive and unless you know what you're doing, you'll probably poison yourself with it. You also have a few other things but they tend to make the cardboard hydrophoic so painting them wouldnt work well

If you wanted to airbrush something, I would thin down PVAc glue(wood glue) with distilled/deionized water, not tap water because there are no fugicides or biocides in that glue so it will mold over if you use tap water

"primers",gessos, acrylic paints, etc would all seal it too technically but its always good to put a different layer down first

[tiny cairn]

I went with mod podge because I had it on hand and it feels decently solid

[main mango]

230 skulls for the skull throne

[vernal mesa]

Been doing a single color a painting session to stretch these fun fellows out. Really happy with Lumberghast and absolutely hate how vulgar and fleshscreamer are coming. Hoping once I do the metals they’ll get better.

[vale pollen]

My completely lore inaccurate Emperor's Champion

[plush swift]

@plush swift

Herro

[plush swift]

made that as an example

For what

[plush swift]

Ohhh I just realized the additions you made

[plush swift]

yes they were camoflauged

🤯

[hollow goblet]

Tbh I have been incredibly tempted to do this but stop around the 50-60 coat mark so it looks like a T1000 from terminator

[rare hornet]

What you use for that yellow?

[visual turret]

that yellow is gorgeous HOUH

Deathwing Knight stripped of DA Heraldry for my carcharodon army

[mild scaffold]

that is some sick ass weathering on the shield omg,,,

[visual turret]

Homeboy’s been in some heavy scrapes

[peak flicker]

Averland Sunset (base) - Cassandra Yellow (shade) - Yriel Yellow (highlight) - Flashgitz Yellow (edge highlight)

[rare hornet]

How'd you get your averland so smooth?

Mine has been a distint pain

[peak flicker]

Wraithbone primer

[rare hornet]

I'll have to give it a try

It's the one thing putting me off painting Craftworld Iyanden

[peak flicker]

Yeah since that Primer came out it's been much easier for me to have a consistent yellow

Yeah I def want to paint some Iyanden

[rare hornet]

I'll have to grab some and give it a go, I'll need to get some new Averland, mine is royally buggered

[peak flicker]

Also look up Cult of Paint's Iyanden video. Has a nice grimdark to 'Eavy Metal feel

I've had my Averland for years and it's clumps after not using for a while but I use a vortex mixer to smooth it out

[plush swift]

If it's clumping up like that you really need to get some wetting agent, That's an agglomerate caused by improper dispersant.

[peak flicker]

Thanks for the tip! Honestly I just use the vortex mixer and it comes out smooth again. But something I'll look into

[plush swift]

You can put a single drop of something like a flow improver that contains an alcohol ethoxylate, most common is windsor and newton.

Dont use vallejo, they use 2butoxyethanol which isnt a flow improver, all it does is make paint dry out.

[visual turret]

Get that shaken for like 5 minutes straight lol

Im starting to hate my Rakarth personally

[plush swift]

||or get a good yellow from a professional brand and never have to deal with all that bullshit again||

[visual turret]

True!

[median flame]

Made my lieutenant better. (After is first 4 and before is last 4

[midnight locust]

Russ in progress

[plush swift]

Sick

Should I get a rus or a valk

[mint dove]

Finally picked up some pro acryl stuff

Got their ivory to replace ushabti bone and bold titanium white for my clones

[plush swift]

I think ive mentioned this before to you but their bold titanium white cracks like a mother fucker all the time for me and never adheres. It dries way too fast

For optimal acrylic stability you want a minimum of a little over a minute for drying time per layer, that stuff was like 15 seconds

and in my climate, that means it will fail regularly

From what I can tell is they put a chemical in there thats used as a wetting aid in there but isnt which also causes it to dry much faster, but I havent done much testing

two thin coats has it too

Vallejo sells it as flow improver, which its not and confuses just about every paint chemist out there

as to why vallejo does that

[midnight locust]

Russ is always relevant. A valk is a really cool desk model that'll never see tabletop play but damn does it look cool

[plush swift]

If I get one I’ll probably paint it like a old Huey or something

[woven saffron]

Raptors are cool and shit, but a big titty Kriegette GF into a mini? Sign me the fuck up!

(my 12th mini this far, am kinda proud of myself ngl)

[silver thorn]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOAH

mandrakes are cool

[trim tundra]

I would be okay with GW retconning these in

[woven saffron]

Me too brother, me too...

[mild scaffold]

im p sure unlike fem custodes this wouldnt actually make sense bc of cloning tech

although either way it does not matter tbh 🤷‍♀️

[mint dove]

Tried the new army painter fanatic daemonic yellow

This is one coat

I'm very impressed

[plush swift]

banna man

[short pawn]

Any citadel paint recommendations for nightlords?

[plush swift]

black?

[short pawn]

Nah i need some blues

I think

[plush swift]

1000 sons blue maybe

[plush swift]

Does the emperor have his own model

[mint dove]

I think they literally have a color called "Night lords blue"

I think I have it actually hold on

[short pawn]

Heard it was actually kinda poopy

Too black

[plush swift]

dont put it in sunlight, they use dyes according to several of the people they sponsor who claim they talk chemistry with the company all the time

[silver thorn]

yea i like it

i was using it too

don't tell corpsey he will get angy though xD

[faint lantern]

How much did this cost

[plush swift]

good amount probably

[vernal mesa]

https://thearmypainter.com/products/warpaints-fanatic-mega-set

€175

[short pawn]

That's insane

[vernal mesa]

All ready for a deep wash of brown and black, then a second round of detail painting.

[silver thorn]

i got it for half that

in usd

[vernal mesa]

Nice!

[silver thorn]

https://gnomishbazaar.com/products/the-army-painter-warpaints-fanatic-mega-paint-set-wp8067?variant=40402701484150&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2022-01-09&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8pKxBhD_ARIsAPrG45k6Pt0qb4JlEVc5yk6cPziFBI58dY4b_l4dxPemdbl_c1xZioLREHMaAoG4EALw_wcB i got it from here and it was in a preorder sale

it was like 130 including shipping for me, I just saw it as a good deal

but corpse knows that all mini paints are a scam

i will say that i have enjoyed them though they are easier to work with for my noob self

then the vallejo stuff i have

[midnight cairn]

Is he feeling sick from the last warp travel?

[crisp sable]

Lol. Must be hypoxia.

[tiny cairn]

https://gnomishbazaar.com/collections/the-army-painter-warpaints-fanatic/products/the-army-painter-warpaints-fanatic-complete-paint-set-wp8070 holy hell this is expensive

[silver thorn]

many paint xD

[tiny cairn]

Yeah it's a lot but I could never go through that much paint before it debonded

The amount of money youd need to spend/random ass projects you'd need to do to use that much paint as well as the diverse colors in that pack is insane

[vernal mesa]

I’d say a good half would probably never get cracked open. How many different reds and greens does an ultramarine player need?

[silver thorn]

@plush swift For paints that contain dyes and degrading in sunlight, light from a light bulb isnt going to degrade it correct?

[plush swift]

Incorrect, it will just at a slower rate

[plush swift]

and its mostly just greens, leave to mix and you dont need 99% of that set since its just mostly them adding white to colors or in the case of green, yellow and/or white

[tiny cairn]

Yeah the only nice part about that is having a "start point" but if you are diligent in your note taking for color mixes its nbd

[plush swift]

dont even need to do that as most canvas artists have them up for free, tons of cheap beginner books do too.

Hell you can calculate what the color will be using a kubelka-munk wheel over a cielab wheel

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1124530950022365225/1132731167636983888/labwheel.gif

thats both

[mint dove]

Painted the warboss, I absolutely love the color

Ended up needing about 3 coats to fully cover however

[tiny cairn]

I'm too dumb to use something like this, I prefer the mad scientist approach with an understanding of color theory

Freehanding is a pain but satisfying when you get a result you like

[plush swift]

SO those dots are pigments, each pigment has different charateristics when it comes light absorbtion, how it interacts with light particles, etc

If you ever wondered why when you mix a purple and you get a brownish color

thats why, using the wrong pigments

Using two very common pigments in hobby paint

because most reds you use border on orange and not actually red

the red like deminstraits where it will shift

but using the correct ones will shift it more towards what you want

because some pigments interact differently, the green and the magenta will create a violet, a blue, and a purple

because the magenta defuses green light and yellow light

[tiny cairn]

I understand all of this in theory, but when you apply it with your own paints I could see how this maybe gives you an idea of a starting point but I feel like there are alot of variables that this chart might not cover

[plush swift]

it covers everything an artist needs to know

it doesnt cover everything I as a paint manufacturer and conservator need to know

I have to work on the physics level

of course im not explaining all of thise 100% accurate, im making it easier to understand which this is close enough for most people

understanding things like blue has a warm and a cool town, same with red, yellow, and magenta

are important

[tiny cairn]

Yeah I understand stuff like that already, I have a pretty good idea what I am going to get when I mix two paints, and if I don't get what I want I know how to salvage it usually

[plush swift]

a warm tone blue will mix a muddy green while a cool tone will mix a bright one

Thats a much higher comprehension than most

[tiny cairn]

it does make you think more when you look at it on the chart though

because I come from a predominately like online color picker background for illustrator stuff, and I was taught color theory at a younger age and had it reinforced through schooling

[plush swift]

See thats a huge thing

I have to tutor doctoral students a lot and the ones with direct family with background like that tend to always be more respective and get these obscure concepts quicker

[tiny cairn]

Something I've always appreciated from my schooling was to be taught to figure out why not necessarily what

[plush swift]

I wish I had the same, my family is all politicans, military and journalists

so i hate the news and politics

but art was a family passtime and always highly encouraged

[tiny cairn]

its definitely something I am going to instill in my kid(s)

[plush swift]

however me taking a career in it instead of politics or military was... not the choice they wanted

that being said, I was able to get 50k more on my last salary than they listed because I know how to debate

[plush swift]

its important for society honestly

[tiny cairn]

If you got the tools, use'm to best fit your own design. At the end of the day you have a better chance of making an impact of "note" as an artist than you do a career military person/politician. Sure you might effect people's lives in a less tangible way but how many politicians do people remember outside of presidents and maybe their senate rep if they do something bad

[plush swift]

@silver thorn @mint dove @short pawn @vernal mesa here is some more advanced color theory

[plush swift]

exactly. I much prefer to help shape and mold others to attempting to fix problems but being held up by others. I'm patient but vindictive

[tiny cairn]

I find it funny that I have over 100 dollars of unpainted plastic and I have instead decided to work on this project which has less than a dollars worth of material (obviously the plastic for minis is cheap as well but it's not like you can easily make a mini out of raw plastic)

[plush swift]

tbh this is more entertaaining for me

[sweet sigil]

This is my first larger scale “mini” any recommendations for filling the back and mechanical sections so it’s not so boring??

[rare hornet]

The occasional small pipe in brass works well, kinda like this

For the most part it’s going to be silver, due to the monolithic scale of the model

[vernal mesa]

Im doing two terrain projects while also painting a kill team. It's fun to hop around and focus on what draws your interest at the time. As long as you go back to the plastic eventually it's all good.

[vernal mesa]

Woohoo, pretty wheel with actual color names I can easily reference! || (Was mixing a dried blood last night and had to get the s.o.'s eyes to tell me I hadn't made a red with brown, but just brown.)||

[plush swift]

transparent iron oxide is your best friend here

[mint dove]

Really happy with how the shield turned out

[sweet sigil]

ok ty ty i like the idea of the red pipe you have on there too

[rare hornet]

Thank you, it’s all just electrical and hydraulic cabling at the back

Another good thing is to do the plates on the back the same colour as your main armour, (you can see it with my blue)

[sweet sigil]

i had all mine in black but i like the idea of different color and ok ill try paining the back part of the plates

[mint dove]

Tried painting my clones today. I give up

It's so difficult to paint black details on white armor and clean it up seamlessly

It made me so frustrated it made me want to drop painting altogether for a second

[silver thorn]

!

I paint like 1 model every month and you paint squads on squads on squads haha

no way youd give it up

[mint dove]

These are awful

Lots of black recessed detail and the paint just runs everywhere

Base paint,contrast paint, black panel liner. Doesn't matter. It gets all over and cleaning it up looks terrible

Some things just shouldn't be miniatures

[plush swift]

See you made a major mistake here, a massive one

dont use black to give white panel details

its too dark and will always look bad

[mint dove]

I mean more of the undersuit areas and helmet visor which are stark black

And it's less what color it Is and more cleaning it up always looks like shit

[plush swift]

oh then krill tissue

[plush swift]

yeaah thats fair, but you can take steps to help

Trying to get my dark angels together but keep procrastinating

[solar abyss]

After letting my sentinel roam free for a few weeks finally got around to basing it

Also made this little lad last month for my local wh store’s st paddy’s day themed contest with the mini of the month

[plush swift]

THATS HOW YOU PAINT THE NOB AT THE BACK????

[plush swift]

i mean you can paint it however you want, there is no wrong there

Ik

Just didn’t know what the nob thing was

[mint merlin]

when in doubt

paint gunmetal

[rare hornet]

It’s great, I even did the same for my tiny knights

[median flame]

Made my primaris ATV

[vale pollen]

The Mario kart double dash marines, fuckin love it

[median flame]

My favorite primaris vehicle by far

[vale pollen]

Tbh I feel sorry for the driver

[lavish crescent]

"What did yo- BRRRTTTT"

[visual turret]

Alright chat I need opinions

I've bought inner circle companions and I'm using them for my carc army, stripped the DA heraldry off of them etc. etc.

but what colour should the cloaks be

@rare hornet ideas?

[white tangle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svlPYd67yuI

This is depressing.

I got so excited, thinking we are getting some darktide models 😦

[visual turret]

wait we're not even getting models?????????????

well I~ mean technically we are

[white tangle]

No. Unless the zealot one is new

idk though

[visual turret]

its not

it's from blackstone fortress

Pious Vorne

[white tangle]

This is so damn disappointing.

[visual turret]

I mean It's an easier way to get Vorne

as he's a hard one to get a hold of

and they ARE cosmetics in-game

[white tangle]

Man, i wish we got the cover 4 from darktide as models.

When seeing that vid in my feed and watching it made me go through a rollercoaster of emotions only to end up in a hole 😦

[visual turret]

Upon my mentioning of the casual "oh yeah we're updating the emperor's children rules, pay no attention to this haha :)" post by GW to a friend who works at my local warhammer store, he pulled a bit of a face and said something along the lines of "well while nothing's confirmed and sometimes we do just do stuff like that......... you might wanna save up some money"

[edgy jackal]

The store managers are in the dark a lot of the time about what happens in nottingham

[visual turret]

Oh yeah totally I don't expect stores to know much about what's going on

and this guy wasn't the S.M. either