40k-minis-and-armies

[plush swift]

there are tons of weird handsoaps that can strip paint. the raabbit hole for soap is real

[vale pollen]

Because you can never have too many Lieutenants

[sterile whale]

This is some serious heresy

[cloud wing]

Hive fleet imperialis

[long dune]

love those halo bits, god damn that paintjob is clean

these are yours right?

[alpine wyvern]

yup! good eye on the halo inspo. I modeled and printed those bits myself

[long dune]

really good! id recognize reach security shoulders anywhere

[alpine wyvern]

haha

[long dune]

I adore your subtle edge highlighting

not distracting like it usually is on a lot of models imo (mine included)

[gray solstice]

Naiiiiice

[midnight locust]

How high up should this back leg go?

[mint dove]

The Git I'm most proud of

Tried some glazing and layering for the scarred flesh, think I knocked it outta the park if im honest

[summer sparrow]

Just finished up these bases for my new Knight and three armigers

[simple thorn]

ooooh, I like the track impressions

[summer sparrow]

thanks! I'm a 3d printer type so I sent some files for a Chimera I had to a friend who's been tinkering with 3d modeling, she made me a track roller that I used on a layer of milliput to get the impressions.... I am however entirely out of milliput

these bases have cost me like $30..... worth

Here's the file for the roller though if anyone else wants to use it

[simple thorn]

I unfortunately do not have the space or money for a 3D printer

But I hope anyone here who does gets use out of it

[midnight cairn]

Oh look, it's plague Christmas 😆

[rare hornet]

Now this is pod racing

[midnight locust]

Anyone have some good examples of urban basing for 60mm+ size bases?

[brisk vapor]

Take some plasticard and cut it into tiles with cracks and add some other debris on it

something I did for my Necrons

[sterile grail]

"the yellow stripes on these Cadians is the symbolic representation of the scorching surface when their home planet broke apart. Yet agaisnt all odds, these very men and women fought on until the very last breath"

The 205th Regiment, comprised of zealous veterans from all aspects of Cadia, are fearless and ruthless in their own ways. Savage at heart and fueled by revenge, these veterans have sworn to seek retribution for their home and loved ones until the day their duty ends.

[mint merlin]

On one hand, this is absolutely gorgeous

on the other hand, I remember you posting this particular miniature for weeks and I'm not sure I want to spend that much time on singular guardsmen

[visual turret]

this is an awesome paintjob, so clean and smooth on hte brushwork. Neat and tidy edge highlighting, great eye for detail

beautiful

[visual turret]

ooooh what knight!

[alpine wyvern]

thank you so much!!

[summer sparrow]

A Dominus Castellan, and the smaller ones are for two different Armiger Moirax's and an Armiger Helverin

[visual turret]

very nice

I gotta get better with my basework

[sterile grail]

I take my time, and since they are expensive for my current budget. I make sure they worth how they look to my ability.

[sweet stirrup]

Painted my Mawpit from Hunter and Hunted today

[white tangle]

Idk if you buy from gw but if you do, i would never recommend it. All the minis i get are from resellers and i normally get my minis 30-50% off compared to gw. The most recent one, i got a captain for £12 while on the website he costs £25. I guess it depends on location as well.

Thinking about it the only thing i buy off gw is paint.

Story time: Also a thing that bothers me a lot more than it has the right to, my mate is really well off and he was a reason why i started painting in the first place. He would buy everything from the GW store (he doesn't play the game). Back in the day, when i came around his, i saw the ton of plastic on his desk as he showed me around. Back then i didn't really know how much models were. After getting into the hobby, i found out how much that plastic he had must have cost. I would say around £3000. The worst part is he has probably painted less models than i have and he speedpaints. Another thing that shouldn't annoy me but does, was the fact that every model he bought was because it "looks cool." I mean fair enough, its your money and fun, but for me, a minis lore is like 50% of why i even buy it. Last thing: He would buy these giant minis and build them with the thought process of "ill paint them when i get better." but he would build all his minis. I cant imagine how much of a nightmare its going to be to paint those compact, highly detailed, giant minis without using sub sections.

[sterile grail]

yeah bought from GW official. Not to mention the insane import tax from my country. Even citadel paint is hella expensive.

[sterile grail]

yeah which is crazy. Because I dont know about you, but the monetary investment and my impulse to buy shit is the same thing that guilt me to paint everything in "good display" quality so that its worth my money, like im just being brutally honest. And yes like lore & rule of cool is also major factor that make me buy things.

So i would rarely speedpaint and fuckup but instead do it carefully and learn along the way.

Honestly though if i have airbrush and actually get good at it, the process would cut down to 50% faster.

Because highlighting and detail painting is not an issue for me anymore.

[white tangle]

I have a cheap airbrush, but i had one bad experience with it and never touched it again after. Im scared to give it another go. But i'm moving all my paints to droppers, so hopefully it will become a bit less daunting.

[white tangle]

With me i feel like i care too much sometimes. If i make a mistake or something doesn't go as well as i would want it, i will not want to paint it again, but at the same time i wont be able to stop thinking about it. It just results in me taking ages to paint one thing.

Like recently i dropped my sable brush and it lost a bit of its tip. I tried doing weathering scratches with it and it went terribly. Now im forcing myself to power through.

[glass forum]

Well thats the shadowsword built

[visual shale]

How do people get their models to look so smooth and clean when they paint them?

[hollow goblet]

Good lighting/camera goes a long way tbh

Anyone worked with regular space marine terminators before? Gonna convert a set into Scarab occult terminators but I'm not sure how hard its gonna be to integrate the headdress

[visual shale]

That makes sense…

[gusty mauve]

And I just finished a second one

[wild monolith]

More kits arrived today!

• Heroes of the Chapter
• Heavy Intercessors
• New Scout Squad

Addition to the Crimson Fists' Grand Company.

[mint dove]

My windsor and newton brush has been sitting on my shelf for 2 weeks because I'm afraid if I try to use it I'm gonna ruin it lol

[sweet sinew]

My mother blessed me good today

Angron, and the ability for my little astartes to watch big bang theory

[wild monolith]

Epic 👍

[sterile grail]

oh yeah when i fucked up something it took me hours and hours just to get it fixed because I cant stand it. Like eapecially when you paint so much time on it alr.

but seeing the models picture u posted here i think it is really good

[sweet sinew]

I felt the same way, so I started small. Painted a kit of flayed necrons as my first kit ever, then I jumped to Primaris marines, then chaos marines, then grey knights. Learning how to do all sorts of stuff

And now I’m doing primarchs, vehicles

I’d probably go mad if I had a horde of grey staring at me

[mint dove]

I just imagined a slaughter priest, covered in gore relaxing on a couch

"Haha, I love when the tall one says Bazinga"

[mint merlin]

Also, remember that people here most likely only post their best works, the things they're proud of. Don't go telling yourself that what you see here is the average

[short pawn]

I have some egregious models this is true

[mint dove]

Progress on warbiker #1

[sterile grail]

Im no professional but here is my 3 golden advice:

1. practice and patience (like alot), take your time. Seriously. when i speed things up i always fuck up.
2. look up youtube videos for useful tips and resources i learnt alot from this way.
3. have the right tool (better quality tools makes it days and night).

So far thats all i can give because even i myself is still learning.

[mint dove]

Can I spray a coat of primer over another coat of primer? I primed my warbikes in gray when I wanted to prime them in gunmetal to save time painting all the metal gubbins, will this cause any issues?

[edgy jackal]

What sprays are you using? If citadel, then your only issue might be layering the paint on too thick, but that can happen with spray cans regardless of brand.

[silver thorn]

might lose some detail, but you can always just strip it anyway

isopropyl is cheap af on ebay

saw these sororitas bikers on etsy and I'm like

GW

WHY AREN'T THESE A THING

[visual shale]

Because it’s GW

[brisk vapor]

Because those don't really look the part for Warhammer if I'm being honest

[plush swift]

camera correction a lot of the time, if you look closely at them they are covered in tiny bumps and clumps

[silver thorn]

what? xD

warbikes are used in a bunch of other factions

if you mean the design, yea they are "legally distinct"

[brisk vapor]

Yeah meant the design mostly, way too busy in design and odd looking compared to other bikes we have

[silver thorn]

hmm.

sororitas designs tend to be really busy

[brisk vapor]

The biggest problem with all 3rd party models is that for some reason the modellers put way too much little details into the works they do

[silver thorn]

yea GW does manage to strike a good balance

a big criticism of sororitas is that they are too busy making them hard to paint

from me

that's me

they have so much fine detail, texture and need like minimum 5 paints just for a BSS member

[brisk vapor]

And I mean I love me some well designed little details when it works, like a center piece model or character but if your chaff looks like that it's just silly

[brisk vapor]

Sororitas are still fine to me, the details make sense with them and they still have large flat areas without excess detail

[silver thorn]

just a normal trooper has grenades, sheathed sword, jewelry, big ass scrolls

oh i see what you mean

yea the design is very cohesive

i love how they look

i think their helmets are insanely iconic

id love to see GWs take on sororitas bikers.

[brisk vapor]

Like one of the worst examples of over designing your minis are the Ravaged Star models miniwargaming had a Kickstarter for. First I quite liked them but now that I've had time to study them a bit more they've soured on me pretty badly

[silver thorn]

yea i can see what you mean

especially when your aren't looking at them through a magnifying glass

too much detail makes the model kind of...

soupy

[brisk vapor]

Quite so

[silver thorn]

did you paint any up?

[brisk vapor]

No, I finally decided not to buy them. Was very close to though. 52 Miniatures on YouTube did paint one or two quite nicely though

[short pawn]

I dont really see sisters of battle as a motorcycle type tbh

Not sure why but it just feels wrong

[echo oyster]

The bike would have to be very distinct

[short pawn]

Plus at the end of the day adeptus soritatos are supposed to be distinct from space marines so just giving them the equal to an outrider marine is doing them a disservice

[echo oyster]

they certainly wouldn't work on a space marine look'n bike

[short pawn]

I think a hover bike might be cool instead of the wheels but again idk just feels off

[echo oyster]

Maybe a flying bike, I don't think space marines do that except for 30k

like a jetbike

[short pawn]

Space marines don't but I think custodes do. But they basically got mf horses their rides are massive

but imo sisters of battle would look sick on a robo horse

[echo oyster]

Well I know they have skytalon bikes for 30k, just don't know if there is a 40k equivelent

robohorse would be funny

[short pawn]

just zany enough for the church to use as well

[echo oyster]

Do you need permission to post pictures here?

or is it a roles thing? because I am not a convict?

[short pawn]

idek what convict means. I dont think you need permission

[silver thorn]

bikes aren't really a space marine exclusive thing

repentia on bikes

[echo oyster]

It seems to be related to chat activity so I just need to talk more before the Gods let me post my minis

[silver thorn]

no idea, it lets me though

[echo oyster]

No most factions have a bike of some sort, the tyranids are invading the galaxy because they are jelous they can't grow wheels

[silver thorn]

xD

found this on Google

[echo oyster]

is that the genestealers bike?

[silver thorn]

im not sure, i think the jakals one is longer

yea not the jakals

[echo oyster]

this is based of some pretty cool art I think

would love to post it but I am not a "convict yet"

they havent figured out im not a robot

[short pawn]

They're not exclusive but a sister of battle on a motorcycle isn't distinct enough from the already existing one. Sisters of battle's counter-parts to every marine type is pretty unique I reckon

Still think a robo horse is the best option

they got mf church tanks

[silver thorn]

[echo oyster]

how about rolerblades?

that would be very funny

[short pawn]

that'd be fire

[silver thorn]

robohorse is a guard/admech thing though

[short pawn]

I think they have robo horses i dont think its like their defining characteristic

and leonutus has an organic horse its just modified (i think?), DRoK have organic horses as well

[silver thorn]

they are actually dogs

[echo oyster]

I think a bike is the safest bet, they do use a lot of astartes equipment, they would just need to pimp it out a bit, make it a real hotrod. really style on the astartes as they usually do

[short pawn]

Is it a robot??

[silver thorn]

they are mechanized dogs

turned into horses

[silver thorn]

exactly

[short pawn]

They're so cool though their gear is PERFECT for cavalry

[silver thorn]

sororitas use the rhino, but their rhino kit is the best out of all of them

[short pawn]

Especially with like a flail or lance? GOD!!!

[silver thorn]

i don't think they would use horses though. their equipment is pretty standardized across the galaxy, they can afford to buy anything they want

their real power is that they are rich af

hence they all have power armor and the best weapons

[short pawn]

They are also the church though. Tell me a church tank is practical

[echo oyster]

its not a tank. Its a tracked choir procession

[silver thorn]

exactly a horse isn't exactly pimped out, extravagant, ostentatious thing

[echo oyster]

maybe... give the horse.. giant wings

[silver thorn]

they aren't bretonnians living in mud covered castles

[short pawn]

Make them pegasus

Give them a pegasus division

[silver thorn]

i do love me some pegasus knights oh man

[echo oyster]

and make them purdy white

[short pawn]

Fuck it give them rocket skates its just the best option

[echo oyster]

little cherubs with wings attached to their legs

[silver thorn]

let them ride a big giant Golden baby with lazer eyes

[echo oyster]

I would be paying 90 bucks for this it better be a giant golden baby with lasers

and don't cheap out on me and paint those lasers jim craftshed, I want you to model laser coming out of this baby's eyes and torching a non believer

[white tangle]

Likewise, your little guardsman has inspired me to get my own.

[echo oyster]

Is it the new gaurdsmen or the old models?

[white tangle]

The one that teecan painted?

that ones one of the new ones

[echo oyster]

i see them now, very nice

very clean

[white tangle]

Pretty sure he hasnt painted in more than a year as well. I cant imagine having a constant reminder on your desk of how much money you just dumped. But then again he is the sort of person to dump £80 on a game and play it for 2 hours lol.

[visual turret]

I wonder if the old heroes of the chapter is available still.........

[mint merlin]

That's definitely a genestealer bike

I would know, I did a conversion with a retinue on bike, with the inquisitor being a proxy

[silver thorn]

ah I see

I was looking at the tread on the wheels

i looked at it wrong

[mint merlin]

I think they even used the legs that come with the kit (tbh, except sculpting entire new legs on your own, I doubt you'd find a miniature with a good leg configuration except the original)

Yup, original genestealer bike, legs and torso, sister head and... space marine scout arms, I think?

[short pawn]

IIRC thats an actual genestealer character the guy kitbashed

yeah

alphus

35 bucks for just this single biker

thats crazy yo

[mint merlin]

oh it's a character, thought it was a more complicated kitbash

still looks good

and yeah, welcome to GW pricing

[short pawn]

Sucks even worse because genestealers are like 2 points each

Even my guard army was probably cheaper and my main list has 103 models

But god are they so epic and cool i love GC

[silver thorn]

yea, very expensive army

printer goes brrrr

[echo oyster]

chinese resin go brrrr

[rare hornet]

If you’re on about the one with Judiciar in then I believe so

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Space-Marines-Honoured-Of-The-Chapter-2021?queryID=c966f05d2f843ebf1c95d93c4a8c6d1d

[visual turret]

ohhhhh

different names

okay cool

still insane that box is £95

[mighty lava]

What y'all recommend in my case

I was more thinking on

1 land raider and 1 redeemer
Or
2 redeemers
Or
Just have all 3, regular, redeemer and crusader

For Salamanders really

[visual turret]

yes would you like 9 slightly fancy space marines, or an imperial knight?

[rare hornet]

I got my fancy marines 🥴

[visual turret]

and you performed CRIMES on the COOLEST PART

[rare hornet]

Mwahahaha 😈

[visual turret]

I almost bought the new terminator captain

[rare hornet]

He’s just a fancy sergeant basically lol

[rare hornet]

First option I think

[mighty lava]

Thank you 👍🏻

[rare hornet]

Np

[silver thorn]

not pictured, 2 land raiders

this makes land's raider sad

[teal wolf]

Magnets! Jk jk. The flamer one is super good, I forget the name

[shut forge]

Speaking of jackal conversions

Just finished making mine as some outrider looking dudes

[pastel grotto]

Just some dudes

And their rampant bug problem

[floral wind]

Got some sternguard for Pedro as his personal guard

[mint dove]

Is there a reason to thin paint with lahmian medium over straight water?

[white tangle]

From my research, medium causes less paint splitting, where it becomes sort of grainy. Im not 100% though so i might be talking out my ass.

[echo oyster]

From my experience, it helps with contrasts and shades so they don't dry blotchy. It might also extend the time it takes before the paint dries. Usually acrylic dries extremely fast.

I don't have the exact GW product though, I have some Army painter equivelant.

[midnight cairn]

What I learnt from @plush swift, medium will make your paint more transparent but generally not change viscosity, while water makes it thinner.

[hollow goblet]

This is actually what it does

It also stops the pigment from breaking apart too aggressively and becoming unusable

[echo oyster]

it probably wards off evil spirits and brings you good luck as well

[plush swift]

correct

[plush swift]

wetting agents actually do that

it just for adherence

https://justpaint.org/how-much-water-can-you-safely-add-to-acrylic-paint/

[compact umbra]

Is this loss?

[main mango]

What’s that model never seen it before?

[teal wolf]

I think he's out of the Death Guard set of space marine heroes

[wild monolith]

The new Wolf Lord

[teal wolf]

That's pretty wicked!

[lavish crescent]

Fucking badass but emperor I hope you blue tacked that together

[silver thorn]

you do subassemblies?

you don't just take ur thinnest brush, shove it into the gap and hope?

[teal wolf]

Must treat the brushes like princesses xD

[rare hornet]

Sub assemblies are so useful, my bladeguard I built years back before I started doing that and I’m really regretting it now

[short pawn]

For sub assemblies, what do you guys use to hold the individual limbs/heads while painting?

I'm gonna pick up some blu tack and finally give sub assembly a shot.

[rare hornet]

Literally a piece of blu tack and an old melta gun from a guardsman

[short pawn]

That's so badass

[rare hornet]

Like so

[short pawn]

I would probably go feral holding that ngl

[teal wolf]

I use corks with brass rods or paper clips to hold em

[short pawn]

Corks not a bad idea. I might just do that with a rod+blutack

[teal wolf]

Could've used an old sprue if ya didn't eat em! 😉

[rare hornet]

That’s true, but I regret nothing. They were delicious 😋

[teal wolf]

Idk why but I laughed way to hard at the melta gun

[silver thorn]

i like building the models to completion but I'm a noob

maybe I'll upgrade on my next set of bss

some of those interior spaces of the cloaks are brutal fully assembled

[teal wolf]

Sometimes you can get away without sub assembles. Like if parts don't over lap

[silver thorn]

on most bss poses they do

xD

its kind of a pain

[teal wolf]

Chop they Arms off

[mighty lava]

Why can't I find a Vulkan He'stan? Not on Amazon, eBay by people, but like is it hard to find on sale now or do I legit have to go to a Warhammer store lol

[ocean pendant]

Might just be where you are, I'm seeing a bunch of Vulkan He'stan for sale in the UK

[mighty lava]

I do see them on eBay but I wanted to do my own from scratch ya know 😅. But I'm in US lol

[ocean pendant]

Yea, it's unfortunately an online only model, which are usually rarer to see on resell, for those you usually have to go directly to GW

[mighty lava]

Welp ik my next trip to the Warhammer store here in Cali 🤣

[ocean pendant]

Like I said it's Online only, they won't have it in store either

You'll have to get it ordered in

[mighty lava]

Calls next day:

Them: oh ya we got 8 in stock

Lmao

[mighty lava]

I get ya tho lol

[simple thorn]

birb

[white tangle]

Anyone here got one of those joytoy toy things? Hows the quality on them?

[plain granite]

It's the malignant plaguecaster/pustus the vile from death guard heroes.

[lavish crescent]

Can I get some advise, I want to kitbash a 40k rogal dorn. I don't want to use the 30k model or 40 Gulliman. Any advise gents?

[mint dove]

Do we know the price of the Stompa boys box?

[ocean pendant]

The new Ork one?

If so, it's a Battleforce and all the previous Battleforce boxes were £140 or $230, so I'd assume the same

[short pawn]

https://www.amazon.com/GJJC09B-Painting-Alligator-Modeling-Airbrush/dp/B07FGDDR74/ref=asc_df_B07FGDDR74/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312073751953&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=216046332440983061&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9051887&hvtargid=pla-571230841836&psc=1&mcid=e455de1d847332a597d39af0c828cc20&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=67622841052&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312073751953&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=216046332440983061&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9051887&hvtargid=pla-571230841836&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI176gvP_khAMVJwitBh3prw-CEAQYAyABEgJi9fD_BwE

Do you sub assembly painter fans think this might be a good buy?

[maiden steppe]

The new Chaos Lord is coming along nicely

[sweet sinew]

Today is gonna be a doozy

[visual turret]

painting angron without subassemblies

brave

[sweet sinew]

Holding my breath and slowing my heart rate for supreme brush strokes

[white tangle]

i think the issue will be getting the brush there lol

[sweet sinew]

For some models I resorted to using a tooth pick, I don’t think it’ll be too bad

[short pawn]

not if they hold their breath and slow their heart rate for supreme brush strokes

[sweet sinew]

This person knows

[short pawn]

best of luck, excited to see your work!

[white tangle]

A toothpick? for what?

[sweet sinew]

Getting small amounts of paint into hard to reach spots

[sweet sinew]

I’ll be back in 9 hours

[white tangle]

oh, fair enough. What works, works i guess.

[short pawn]

That's about how long it takes me to paint a guardsman

[white tangle]

Ive been sat on a marine captain for nearly a month. I want to die.

[short pawn]

You also have some of the cleanest painting I've seen so that's a fair price to pay

[white tangle]

Ill take the compliment but i still want to die lol

[short pawn]

All good artists do

i havent painted in nearly 3 months and it makes me SO SAD

WHY DID I BUILD A CATHEDRAL ON MY PAINTING DESK

[white tangle]

my lord

thats big

[short pawn]

it's gonna be a badass 2k point center piece i reckon

its entirely modular tho so i can easily just disassemble it

Hoping the space marine scouts will get me back into painting their models are so cool

[white tangle]

I really like them as well. God, i dont want to paint but i want to paint at the same time. Cant wait till i get to the guardsmen, sterguard and scouts.

[short pawn]

How long have you been painting for?

[lavish crescent]

Why not?

[white tangle]

Me? like a bit more than a year and a half

[short pawn]

That's insane, do you have a pic of your first model?

[white tangle]

yeah, let me find it

This little cutie

[short pawn]

Wow, your first model is actually solid

My first model looks like the after effects of a chemical burn

[white tangle]

I mean it could definitely be better lol, but im keeping him forever. Its cool to see where i started.

[short pawn]

I was a caveman with a brush

[sweet sinew]

The scouts are so cool, I kinda hope we will get other in between phases of SM’s, I’d love to do a diorama of someone going through each stage and ultimately ended up as a space marine

My first

[edgy jackal]

What's the kit for that?

I don't think it's citadel

[short pawn]

Pegasus hobby

[edgy jackal]

Thanks, good to find out about various 3rd party terrain makers, they'll probably have terrain kits in stock for longer than GW

[silver thorn]

gw terrain is overpriced (but i have some)

i bought some of the stockades on ebay because they get resold for cheap

[short pawn]

I just wanted scouts why did i do this

[sweet sinew]

Now your scouts have a place to live!

[sterile grail]

ahh makes me remember my first model as well, the first two i painted a little bit then gave up. Then the third one i was determined to fully paint it. I still keep it.

[short pawn]

LMFAO TRUE

[mint dove]

I understand why people use mediums, this finish is great

[topaz orchid]

Ultramarines Razorback completed

[short pawn]

It has finally been disassembled

For anybody that owns beta decima, does the terrain fit back into the box?

[edgy jackal]

I have it, haven't built it yet, but I doubt the ferro-furnace fits back in, unless you build and store it in halves

The rest should be fine

[silver thorn]

i really like the kill zhone bheta decima terrain

it looks cool

i got it too xD

[hollow goblet]

#40k-minis-and-armies message

My first mini here

[short pawn]

Dude holy fuck the behta decima furnance refuses to fucking glue

No matter what I do

Also, did I cut something I wasn't supposed to? The booklet shows that there's like an extended panel piece to glue and thats just not true?

[short pawn]

I've realized my mistake. I'm using Tamiya plastic glue like citadel. Apparently you're supposed to glue them while holding the pieces together and it seams better that way

Yeah it just instantly started working I'm so mad at myself for being dumb

[brisk vapor]

Chipping away with the leather coat

[silver thorn]

tamiya makes a chemical bond, the plastic melts and becomes a solid piece

[short pawn]

Yeah its crazy stuff. I just never knew it evaporated like instantly

When i did it right the shit solidified in seconds

[short pawn]

Do either of these look off to anybody?

Thats the same one

There

[midnight cairn]

Are you using a stippling technique for the coat?

[brisk vapor]

more so just doing random squiggly lines for random shapes and strikes

stippling would take too much time on such a large area for my patience 😄

also I believe this way the texture is a bit more leather like, stippling is great for cloth or skin usually

[short pawn]

Bro is painting a bigature

[white tangle]

Doing my first bit of layering painting. Wish me luck boys. (im guessing in around 2 hours im going to be crying )

[plush swift]

You might be interested in this but after several months of testing, artist barrier cream worked better than gloves at protesting the paint jobs, the gloves kept giving off additional friction which caused more damage than bare hands but bare hands had all their own issues

so if you hate wearing gloves

you now have an out

[brisk vapor]

I'll look into those, got these because you get like a hundred pieces for 4€

And my hands get sweaty

[plush swift]

thats cheap as fuck, they are still $20-30 for 100 in the US so barrier cream was cheaper

winsor and newton sells one

but I havent tested out every barrier cream on the market yet

working on that one currently

[brisk vapor]

Like for basic ass latex gloves?

Or those better ones

[plush swift]

basic

[brisk vapor]

Oh wow

That is expensive

[plush swift]

to avoid the fines for price increase due to demand, they kept the prices post covid

its not a lot of companies got away with it so now everything is hyper expensive

IPA is still more expensive than denatured alcohol as aan example

[brisk vapor]

Ah

[fast nymph]

Hi could someone help me assesing worth of some space marines minis?

they are old

[delicate dune]

Jump pack guys are Assault Intercessors. (Now known as Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs.) 2nd Picture looks to be just some Tactical marines, possibly a devastator squad with the heavy weapons? And the 3rd image with the smaller dudes are a Scout Squad. Im not quite sure how much they’d go for.

[glass forum]

My second rogal dorn tank built

[echo oyster]

I'm not sure what varnish to use here, the last spray varnish I used glazed over my mini. I think it was AK int satin, It was also 5 degrees C so that could have been the problem. Any good brush varnish I could use?

[mint dove]

Da mek out done himself dis time

[plush swift]

are you after durability or a removeable surface for cleaning?

If you're after durability, dont bother looking at hobby stuff, automotive is your only option currently

[echo oyster]

@plush swift I guess I was looking for something to seal the mini, nothing that would make it look tacky. For game purposes not display

[plush swift]

automotive

varnish is a HIGHLY misleading product

varnish by nature is designed to be a removeable layer for cleaning purposes

it does not inherently:

1. protect against UV degridation(only those with UVL additives do, and most dont)
2. give enhanced durability against touching
3. protect it from dings and scratches

what it does do:

1. protects against dust and grime
2. can enhance colors on a model

for more information https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Paintings#Varnishes_and_Surface_Coatings

Pardon me, i'm an art conservator who gets very excited when talking about this stuff

[echo oyster]

@plush swift any brands you recommend for automotive varnish?

There is absolutely nothing I hate more then my paint coming off my minis

[plush swift]

So funny thing, the varnish everyone raves about, dulecoat, is still made. Rustoleum owns testors and model masters, they still make it as an automotive varnish and it isnt bad

but either rustoleum, krylon, or my personal pick which is KBS

but KBS is VERY expensive

Toom is another top brand for me

I have to specialty order 55 gallon drums of their primer a lot

[echo oyster]

I saw another website recommending dulecoat, but krylon is very prominant in my area. is that Toom brush on?

[plush swift]

yes, but getting it if you're not a professional can be tricky

krylon varnishes arent bad

they work

Ive done a sledgehammer test on them before

which is honestly just a ploy for me to beat something with a sledgehammer, but i do get valuable data on vanishes with it

If you can find toom or KBS, they are the best brands but also very tricky to use

toom primer is also the only primer that actually does what primers claim they do to plastic

[edgy mulch]

Just finished painting my Death Korps Marshal. I am very happy with how it turned out. I also wanted to show you all how far I’ve come in my painting skills for this hobby. The first image is my Death Korps Marshal (My latest model) and the second image was the very first model I’ve ever painted up.

[mint dove]

Very clear improvement. Good job

[rustic dust]

First model in about 16 years. Pretty happy so far but some final touches needed.

[short pawn]

What color fatigues should i paint on a white scar scout?

I'm thinking a beige would be nice

[visual turret]

yeah beige works

also

drill that barrel!!!!!!! the poor lad can't even shoot

[brisk vapor]

Painted a face upside down today. Mostly because it was impossible to get any light on the area because of the big ass hat. Turned out to be a bit more difficult task than usual face painting but pulled through pretty well

[white tangle]

Does it have that cool effect of obscuring his face in shadow when right side up?

[brisk vapor]

pretty much yeah

[compact umbra]

Evtry time I see this I think it’s a render from the game

[brisk vapor]

hah cheers

[oblique socket]

excellent paintjob good sir/madame. keep that up you could make some serious cash

[brisk vapor]

Cheers, I'm a bit hesitant on doing this for money but I'm not entirely closed off of the idea 😄

[edgy mulch]

That looks nice

[glass forum]

Not my best but I haven't done a mini in some time 😅

[plush swift]

Not really, the amount of money in this hobby is shockingly small and the people who buy commissions just straight up refuse to pay for what you're worth in most cases, including with a golden demon and SMC first place.

most of them tend to make around $4/h on commission

maybe $6/h

very few make an actual living wage

Dont mean to be negative here, but unless people are willing to drop $10,000+ on something, there is no living wage here

its like this with most forms of art currently, but its the worst with mini painting

[short pawn]

I dont mean to be negative here - proceeds to be negative there

[white tangle]

I do think theyre spittin a bit of facts tho. Kinda depressing but true.

[short pawn]

I just thought it was funny

Its like saying you dont wanna burn bridges but then saying the foulest most personal thing ever

[plush swift]

Well the hobby community is a very... how to put it... "good vibes only" type thing, so me actually saying that this isnt feasible as a job is enough to get me hate mail and banned from a lot of communities.

I deal with the finances of art a lot, and the hobby community is considered completely uninvestable even for low end investments IE $10000. The art material sector has an investment cap of $50,000 but you dont see much because its market cap is... only about 260mil as a whole(with Golden colors inc being the largest at around 10%, colart being second and they own both liquitex and windsor & newton).

When it comes to people actually buying art, digital is currently the highest paid with a salary average of about $15-20/h(but this is going up rapidly), traditional canvas art is about $10-15/h(shrinking due to increased material costs due to covid shortages and increaased shipping fees), mini painting is high risk, high material cost, large hours, very little money in it and because of this commission work is something a lot of people will fight over and try to end your career while claiming to be "for the community".

[short pawn]

Unrelated or related spiel?

[plush swift]

related

its entirely about how little money there is and that people will step on you to get it

there is a reason why the sponsors are also tiny and why so few paint companies actually advertise, monument hobbies does but they arent worth that much money, but their profit margins are higher than most companies

[short pawn]

I think you think i was disagreeing when I just found the verbage funny dont worry

[plush swift]

Oh no

I didnt think you were

i was just explaining why I said it the way I did

I'm very used to getting death threats for being too negative around the hobby community

bit of irony

[short pawn]

Ah i got you

I try to stay away from 99% of online communities

[plush swift]

smart

this section here is pretty tame

[short pawn]

I've already had to dip from several warhammer painting communities due to just obvious white supremacy and homophobia

[plush swift]

Thaats why I started my own, my mods are mostly trans and gay people

by pure accident

most of the people there are also gay or trans, shocking how you make an open community and the marginalized flock there

[short pawn]

Unfortunately the warhammer community just reeks of ass. The warhammer fan at my work told me i should have painted my guardsmen as the SS

[short pawn]

Yeah i typically only stick with marginalized communities for online spaces

[plush swift]

reply to him "why would I want to paint him with a small schlong? im not you"

I get a lot of comments about my painted nails being gay, so my typical reply to them is "yeah your father said the same thing when i railed his ass last night"

[short pawn]

I remember the Tau subreddit just openly shit on somebody for painting their fire warrior with a trans flag

[short pawn]

BASE

[plush swift]

This happens a lot, even in streamer discords

a lot of streamers even allow it

its fucked up

[short pawn]

Not surprised

[plush swift]

I personally dont like the stuff so on the nose from an artistic view, but if someone wants to paint a pride flag or have a pride army, they should do it

[short pawn]

Bless my local stores for being lgbt friendly and just generally chill

[plush swift]

fuck the haters

[short pawn]

Yeah same here

[plush swift]

Ive been mulling over how to do pride armies in a less on the nose way for a while now

and it drives me nuts because the flags are always so bad with their color combinations there isnt much depth

[short pawn]

Maybe you could do small segments of the flag present on every miniature so they eventually form a full flag? Not sure. But yeah the colors are jarring

[plush swift]

doesnt help that I also keep thinking the estonian flag is a pride flag

[short pawn]

Like you said, fuck the haters but truthfully it is jarring

Even if I would paint thr flags myself

[visual turret]

https://youtu.be/yQ92xv4L_EI

IT'S HAPPENING, FOLKS

SKAVEN REVIVAL

[compact umbra]

Fr

[short pawn]

I think orks would look great with lgbt flag colors

[plush swift]

its hard to get things to work, the worst is the lesbian flag, the easiest is the trans flag, i also include color mixing and just "close enough" colors like how a cool tone grey shark became a trans icon

[compact umbra]

Non binary orks would rock

[short pawn]

FR

[compact umbra]

Pronouns: More/Dakka

I apolfoize for my boomer ass joke

[plush swift]

the color combination is one of the better ones for out of the bottle painting, not great for color mixing but you can still get green skin with it aas you have black and yellow

[plush swift]

never apologize for anything

the normal rainbow flag btw is actually purely the easiest to do but its also incredibly hard because you have options

[short pawn]

Im gonna paint this mf tonight and im so scared

Its been so long

[plush swift]

well if you need help feel free to ping me

[short pawn]

I'll be doing him as a white scar so i probably will 😭

I plan to actually highlight for once

[plush swift]

what paints are you using?

also stealth pride stuff is easy if you learn plants

trans flag in flowers right there

boom

[short pawn]

Golden acrylic white apothecary white grey seer and the napthol red high flow for the white armor

[plush swift]

Good choice on the golden white

[short pawn]

I was told to try a grey seer with white drybrush, contrast it with apothecary white, then highlight with white again

[plush swift]

best white on the market

[short pawn]

I really liked the ink you reccomended me but i think I'll like the regular acrylic more for a base coat

I use the ink for when i do goggles

[plush swift]

oh shit i forgot who you were for a moment there

[short pawn]

Oh shoot yeah i changed my name lol my bad

[plush swift]

i did too

[short pawn]

I realize now how bad it looked for me to make those crass jokes about the info dumps 🥹

[plush swift]

its all good

you know i info dump a lot

[short pawn]

Seemed like an unhinged new person and not a tease

[plush swift]

its the autism

[short pawn]

They're super informative and interesting its a fun habit

[plush swift]

plus who else is mentally unstable enough for them?

[short pawn]

TRUTH

I only info dump my servers with random knowledge about tekken and perhaps imperial guard lore

Hopefully some day i can do the same with painting

[plush swift]

https://www.conservation-wiki.com/wiki/Paintings#Varnishes_and_Surface_Coatings

read this in its entirety

you'll be considered an expert in varnishes after

and it will explain why I can be unhinged a lot

[short pawn]

This is terrifying but I'm neurodivergent enough to do that

[plush swift]

I have a lot of knowledge memorized

[short pawn]

I tweak out about fighting games and vermintide/dark souls i get it

Your brain is popping with so much knowledge that any tidbit of incorrect information drives you insane

I love reading about stuff like this though even if I hardly understand it really

[plush swift]

yeah, you understand why the hobby community frustrates me so

[short pawn]

Oh absolutely

[plush swift]

so much bad info...

so many back practices

[short pawn]

I'm still so ANGRY about how much misinformation I was fed

Like i developed bad habits i reckon

[plush swift]

people putting dish soap in their paints

which is just stupid

so fucking stupid

midwinter drives me up a wall

just ask @mint dove I have had rants about this in his DMs

its been what 3 years? and im still triggered by it

not all surfactants are the same... jesus christ that annoys me

[short pawn]

Man no shot im painting tonight its gonna be like a 13 hour shift

THIS SUCKS NOOO

[plush swift]

wetting agents are a type of surfactant but they arent soap

soap is a different beast entirely

and does different things

[plush swift]

ouch

[short pawn]

Yeah i stopped listening to hobby tubers

They suck at teaching half the time

[plush swift]

according to a few people here, I can teach you more in a 5 minute call than a hobby youtuber can in their entire video catalog

mostly because I say a few things and nobs start turning and lights start turning on

[short pawn]

That sounds about right

I woulda sold my white scar army had you not told me of golden

[vernal mesa]

Jumping in on this...

Lots of hobbytubers have ATROCIOUS sound quality or the most monotone voice it's painful to even listen.

[plush swift]

im guilty of haaving a monotone voice myself but im also cursed with ASD so i cant control it

[short pawn]

Only hobby tuber i watch just talks about his mental health struggles and gives advice while painting with calming music

[plush swift]

but my mic is a neuman so if it sounds bad, id be shocked

[vernal mesa]

I'm going to start painting again after 20 years and WOW do some of the videos I tried to watch just suck

[short pawn]

He drops pure philosophy

[plush swift]

feel free to ping me then

I tutor art doctorial students

and teach art therapy to kids and disabled vets

i never have a problem with getting on a call and showing people things

[vernal mesa]

I can garauntee you any materials/brands you suggest I cannot find. What little material I have access to is either random japanese or chinese. I'm looking forward to just throwing random stuff at a model and seeing what happens.

But I do appreciate the offer

[plush swift]

what country if you dont mind me asking?

aalso japanese? holbein aand tuner

[vernal mesa]

Korea. If you're looking for Gundam, we've got it. But GW has only one small reseller

[plush swift]

both are very good high quality brands

i adore holbein inks

[plush swift]

you have a lot of japanese brands there that I would recommend actually

I try to make myself accustom to art stores all across the world

and art products sold in every country

india however will always remain a mystery to me

[vernal mesa]

Neither Holbein or Tuner. I'm looking at a lot of Tamiya stuff thankfully.

[plush swift]

I know homi art store in seoul carries golden and a lot of other brands that I would recommend and the prices are shockingly cheaper than they are in the US, where golden is based

[vernal mesa]

?!?! How are you teaching me about an art shop literally in my neighborhood?!!

[plush swift]

I have a doctorate in art and travel the world for art conservation

I know my art stores

my korean is bad though

[vernal mesa]

HAH, it's like ~1km away from the one store that sells GW as well

[plush swift]

Bismuth vanadate yellow, its expensive but you will never use another yellow again. its a perfect yellow

[vernal mesa]

(Granted both are in the district known for its art university so that's not as special)

[plush swift]

Hongik?

i think thats how its spelled

[vernal mesa]

yeah. The area has some gorgeous street art.

[plush swift]

Oh yes, I have been there just to take photos before

I'm working on a book that is just about street art across the world and the cultures surrounding it

its no where near done

[vernal mesa]

There's a walking trail that goes under a major road for a long distance, the entire wall is covered in art for several hundred meters. Some of it kids learning, some breathtakingly beautiful.

[plush swift]

Ihwa mural village, the Apgujeong graffiti tunnel, absolutely love korea's art scene

there are so many too but I havent seen them

[vernal mesa]

With most of my friends being artists it's very fun to hear their stories. None are graffiti artists though so my knowledge of that is just from walking by it.

[plush swift]

See you're lucky to leave near these places because inspiration is everywhere

even for 40k painting, this stuff can help a lot

from things like terrain building to just color schemes

[mint dove]

The rule is if someone brings up midwinter minis you slap them for consuming misinformation then cuss at them in Greek for an hour

[vernal mesa]

Reminds me, I do have a question. Spend the extra for a can of Tamiya base primer? Or would a brush on primer be fine? Could get the spray, but I'm worried about where I could actually use it.

[plush swift]

gamospiti

[mint dove]

Literally any primer will work, but I'd just use rustoleum, 4 bucks for a can the size of GW for 20% of the price

[plush swift]

tamiya primer isnt actually that bad and does help with durability slightly compared to brush on which doesnt do much, its a nylon based primer so it is aa bit different from a lot of other primers

[short pawn]

I enjoy his personal stories and painting but deffo no advice

[mint dove]

Warbiker coming along

[short pawn]

At the end of the day i dont think its malicious. They just arent professionals

[short pawn]

Its like word of mouth advice from a random hobbyist at your local store

[plush swift]

the issue is people think they are experts and super knowledgeable

its how disinformation campaigns work

[vernal mesa]

If I did a spray I'd have to take everything outside and spray in my parking lot. (And probably get yelled at). So is spray that much better than a brush on primer? Worth the headache?

[short pawn]

Well that seems like an audience problem though

[mint dove]

I only realized after I stared painting I missed a big ass Mold line

[plush swift]

Its not worth the headache

[mint dove]

But ya live and learn

[short pawn]

Misinformation implies that midwinter gains anything from people believing it

[plush swift]

hes gained a lot

hes made a career out of it

[short pawn]

Out of specifically Misinformation or just general video content

[plush swift]

Goobertown also spreads a lot of chemistry misinformation

[mint dove]

I used his "midwinter medium" recipie and it fucked my paint worse than tap water

[plush swift]

you'll have everything in the box to make my own blend, except the matte medium

[short pawn]

I doubt the bad advice was specifically crafted to boost him. Its just bad advice with enjoyable content

People need due diligence and its a hobbyist at heart

[plush swift]

oh im not saying it was intentional at all

it wasnt

[short pawn]

I getchu

[plush swift]

I am 99% sure there was no malicious intent

[short pawn]

He seems like a nice fellow

But i understand having a social media following requires responsibility

[plush swift]

he's accidently poisoned people before

mostly because he started promoting dirty down's rust

which is insanely toxic and requires a respirator to use

[vernal mesa]

Oh boy! I've seen that stuff

[plush swift]

xylene is a nasty chemical

[short pawn]

Yeah like i said he def needs more due diligence for himself as well

[vernal mesa]

At least when I saw it, it was suggested with a mask

[short pawn]

Internet goers are idiots that take everything at face value and dont research

[plush swift]

air brushing also requires a mask

pigments dont leave your lungs easily

you can get lung damage very quickly with them

i have lung damage from air brushing without a mask from when I was younger

but what do these people do? claim its safe as long as there is enough air flow

which isnt true

those vents also dont help that much, they do but you still need a mask and goggles

[ocean pendant]

I always get a bad vibe from Midwinter Minis, like he's never done anything wrong that I've seen. But I just see him and think "This guy is up to something"

[short pawn]

He's just dumb

[plush swift]

I saw a few of his things then said "i am going to have a mental breakdown if I continue"

the content wasnt designed for me

[short pawn]

Well yeah its hobbyist slop

I cant believe i said that

[plush swift]

im rubbing off on you

[short pawn]

I like his cute stories about what warhammer meant to him and hia father and shit like that though

[plush swift]

see those stories are great

that was good content to me

his paint guides almost landed me in aa mental hospital

[short pawn]

I really reccomend that one tuber that talks about mental health ill see if i can find it

Super small channel like 6 vids

But it tears me up

Not sure of the painting part of it or if they have any guides that'll be bad but its just chill

https://youtu.be/BCBf7tgptBU?si=VtZ1zrELN_p-9SDn

I was building my army alongside my friend of like 12 years but we had a massive rift and don't talk anymore so this video is screaming at me

[plush swift]

you can paint with me if you want

i work from home a lot so im free most days

[short pawn]

I'm a night shift person so my time is sparing 😭

I mostly just work and play killteam

[plush swift]

Im a "i make my own hours" type

[short pawn]

Fortunately my other friend of 12 years is slowly starting his orks so i was gonna just give him my ork combat patrol

[vernal mesa]

beautiful subject both in what was said as well as the diorama. No joke about the little channel but definitely a fun sub just to watch it grow. Engineer major means there's likely going to be some wild builds.

[short pawn]

Yeah for sure check out their other content he is very emotionally aware. I especially love this video, lemme link rq

https://youtu.be/Xo4VAYxr5Eg?si=KLpSM39DQFxeWSxt

[vale pollen]

That actually looks pretty good with the helmet on, think I'll do that with my scouts

also I suck at painting skin -_-

[short pawn]

I'm only doing it for the sargent since IIRC scouts aren't allowed to have helmets and the sgt is a full marine

[vale pollen]

tru

[sterile grail]

Similar case.

Usually why i prefer to stay silent. I wouldnt call myself a good painter either but sometimes I see a model a think to myself, hmnm, maybe they need some obvious constructive criticism while seeing everyone cheers on.

Like i get it, good vibes encourage people to paint. But some advice can help too (if people are willing to learn).

Even I get shit and blamed for saying that mini painting is high cost and time maintenance too, because in their defense it's a "hobby". Well yeah, it is a hobby, but you have to weight the benefits with your everyday life as well.

[plush swift]

I mean you're not a bad painter, you've improved a lot but you still have a lot room for improvement, your shading is a little harsh at times but you're leaning how to do softer shadows as i sw from the guard you posted. The skin tone is pretty dead and bland though adding a little tiny dash of red in the skin tone mix would help a lot to give it some life, it gets kind of washed out from the beige clothes a bit

[sterile grail]

Yeah, i agree. The reason why im struggling with shading a blending also is because i am colorblind.

[plush swift]

didnt mean to do unsolicited criticism there, my bad

[sterile grail]

so that is one limitations i have, all g though i appreciate it.

like i remember one time you commented on the white and i have improved it ever since

[plush swift]

yeah i actively try not to comment unless someone did really bad or ive notice an improvement

[plush swift]

what form?

[sterile grail]

Yeah exactly

Protanopia

but i have mild case with blue purple, green yellow even, brown red and even black dark gray

it ranges from all forms if the spectrum is close

[plush swift]

that makes perfect sense actually.

looking at the model i can actually notice it

[sterile grail]

Yeah its also the reason i am limited to pot names and predestined colors by citadel so i can keep track. I would love to mix and blend color but i can loose track very quickly

[short pawn]

Well i mean, people paint for themselves. If anything you should ask if you can provide criticism especially when they're just casual painters that thought their mini looked cool. Its just all about deceny

Unfounded random criticism is just not an okay thing in most circles and makes you seem weird. Like if you randomly go "You can paint your lines a little straighter" when everybody is gassing them up it's just strange behavior. Just ask them if its okay to give criticism.

[plush swift]

You might actually get along with using a pbr25 benzimidazolone brown flesh tone mixture,, its very easy to do and has a number of ratios to it that are all over the place from watercolor artists

[short pawn]

Nobody knows your intent besides you

[plush swift]

see "your lines could be straighter" also isnt super useful advice since thats all brush control which comes from muscle memory and a lot of people cant do that, so the most useful advice tends to be about colors

as that is generally not skill reliant

I know thats not what your point was

but that specific type of thing could have its own problems

[short pawn]

No I appreciate that, it's a good point

[plush swift]

it sounds worse than something like "you should add midtones so the shadows/highlights arent as harsh"

[short pawn]

Yeah I think theres a way to do it and presenting it as something they could try is better than telling somebody its wrong

[sterile grail]

For me its just pure intentions and goodwill. Im a bit materialistic but people pay for their stuffs so might as well give some basic advices for each other.

Most common are, thin your paints, too much wash...etc. I don't think it hurts to give people those advice tbh.

[short pawn]

It definitely doesn't hurt, but personally, I always ask if its okay.

[plush swift]

people get oddly touchy about advice like thin your paint, yet the same people who call you an asshole for saying it aalso said it

[short pawn]

I'm not against criticism at all and its generally just helpful, but to be, it being unsolicited can make people feel less comfortable or like this isnt a safe space to show off their cool mini

[vernal mesa]

You're not alone, I'm colorblind as well. Most of the time when I use color I'm asking someone what they see before I start drawing.

[short pawn]

I dont see anybody as evil or mean if they share unsolicited advice

[sterile grail]

Yeah lol 😂 I have to ask my friend what color they see before i buy it lol

[vernal mesa]

So yeah, paint names and buying extra variations of a color instead of mixing makes it easier.... but not cheaper.

[plush swift]

im also colorblind aswell but I dont not see colors, everything is just super desaturated for me because I can see yellow light

I see more colors but nothing is super vibrant

[vernal mesa]

Ouch

[plush swift]

its super useful for my field though

[vernal mesa]

I wouldn't trade my "can't see a few colors" for "everything is dull"

[plush swift]

I'm happy with it, I can mix any color to within a >1% match

[vernal mesa]

Cool that you found a useful way to work with it. That's really awesome!

[plush swift]

fluos though just dont look like much to me

they just look like faded paint, the light they produce doesnt hit my eyes correctly

[vernal mesa]

If you asked me to mix a color I'd likely end up with a lot of browns.

[plush swift]

You ask me to mix a color, you'd question why i'm bringing out paints that normally wouldnt make that color in conventional color theory

like I make a vibrant purple out of green

and I mix blues that contain no blue at all out of reds

i rarely actually use blue in my palette

[vernal mesa]

If you were doing that digitally I'd think you're strange, but mixing paints can give warmth that way. I'd be confused but absolutely intrigued! (Especially because half of the colors your grabbed would all be brown!)

[plush swift]

hey, brown is just desaturated orange

so you're seeing orange

different oranges

[vernal mesa]

or red, green, some cool purples...

[plush swift]

purple is a fun color because it doesnt actually exist

violet exists, purple doesnt

purple is a color your brain makes up because it cant figure out what to display to you

there are a few colors like that funny enough

[vernal mesa]

heh, purple is the color I've chosen for the fabric i'll be painting soon! Dont tell my SoB they're not wearing anything!

[plush swift]

its a great color for fabric

actually funny enough there is a color called cardinal purple(also called caput mortuum and mars violet), it was used to paint the robes of cardinals in the church

for centuries

its just a dark blue tone red

[vernal mesa]

That.... explains something completely unrelated that I didn't know about but now totally makes sense! Thanks for the cool fact!

[plush swift]

hey, art history is a weird thing, it can explain a lot of things people dont think would be related to it

people knock it but it is honestly one of the important histories to learn about

[vernal mesa]

Absolutely agree, some of my electives in university were art history and design. I’ve got more use out of them than my major classes.

[plush swift]

I originally did a double major of psychology and engineering

i dropped them after a year because I had to take art history classes and went "this is way more interesting"

[mint merlin]

I was thinking of painting a helldiver's inspired imperial guard squad
but the idea of painting yellow on black is already giving me a headache and I haven't even started to plan out how to do it

[plush swift]

Don't use hobby yellows, That's the trick. Understand your pigments and you will actually become a better painter much faster

I have literally never had a problem painting yellow until I started painting this hobby and used your paints

[sterile grail]

paint white first then imperial fist yellow wash over it.

[white tangle]

Ive been reading some of the wall of text above and some of it reminded me of a situation i was in. There was a guy that wanted advice yet he didn't want to thin his paints. For some reason he was super adamant on not doing the extra step of a pallet because he said it was too tedious.

Just a strange little interaction i had ages ago.

[plush swift]

yep this is why I tell people to use golden high flow

[short pawn]

if he considers that tedious i wonder what he considers wiping his ass

[plush swift]

what people want is ink but convenience color inks and for them to be completely opaque. I made these and I have 4 hobby companies send people to haarass me over it because it could disrupt sales figures too much

[short pawn]

does bro eat food?

does he pour his drink into a cup?

[plush swift]

(the hobby companies are small ones with one or two employees, not something like vallejo or ak)

[plush swift]

I just drink my coffee out of the french press directly, no need to dirty a cup

[short pawn]

TRUE

My ASS is about to PAINT

[plush swift]

same

you're more than welcome to join me if you want company

I normally just blast my weird gothy agrotech industrial music so its not like I haave much going on when i paint

[white tangle]

Also another thing about giving criticism. I remember seeing a youtube video of a guy showing his minis, they were all very caked in paint, probably not thinned at all. His comment section was just people throwing jokes at him about not thinning his paints. I feel like if you are breaking some of the most basic rules and posting it on the internet, you should probably expect people to point them out.

[plush swift]

Whats funny is that people do that if its a 3d print that they deem is missing details

Ive tested this, I airbrushed inks over a space marine that was missing details and they told me to thin my paints

they also did it when I did a high rez photo of just citadel primers

and they claim that "i did something wrong" when i didnt, their stuff looked the same, the difference was I purposely made sure it was more aparent with lighting and using a high end camera

[short pawn]

Well again yeah its not inherently wrong to give criticism but its just about respect and nurturing a welcoming environment

[white tangle]

Yeah, fair enough.

[short pawn]

I dont really mind any sort of criticism abou anything of me , personally

I usually really want it because I'm not a good painter

[white tangle]

Ive noticed that throughout my learning to paint journey thing, i have gotten a lot of bad advice. I don't mean to be rude, but a lot of people give out advice about subjects they don't entirely understand. Giving advice on something you aren't 100% on is fine but saying it like its gospel, at least in my case, wasted me a bit of money.

[short pawn]

I would love to hear some of this

Link that juice sis

[plush swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsCNT8H2smY&list=RDMMKsCNT8H2smY&start_radio=1

[short pawn]

Me with contrast paints but thats because GW loved gaslighting me

I'm personally a post-punk post-hardcore emo rock typa guy im gonna give this a listen later

[white tangle]

Man, me and GW are not on the best of terms.

[plush swift]

yeah, I have a drawer filled with about $7000 in hobby products I bought during covid

[short pawn]

I never buy paint at my GW store anymore I just talk to the owner and pick up some new models that my local store doesnt carry

[plush swift]

I wont touch 99% of them again

[white tangle]

yikes

[plush swift]

midwinter, ninjon, miniac, etc suggestions

all of them were terrible products

i think the worst investment I had was a vortex mixer

it doesnt do what people think

I use them in the lab a lot to cause separation in paint

and to mix things but its not that effective for those tiny bottles

[white tangle]

I always thought those were strange. Especially for mini painting. Wouldn't a ball in the pot do the job?

Oh, wow. They cost a bit as well

[plush swift]

they are helpful if you have disabilities, but abled bodied people can mix paint easier by hand

the one exception is scale 75, which is just garbage paint as aa whole

a vortex helps with those

but thats because they dont have enough wetting agent in them and are way too thick for that

[edgy jackal]

It's handy for some contrast paint to get the whitish compound mixed in properly, shaking by hand would take forever and waste paint on the mixing implement. That compound is very stubborn.

Granted, a good counterargument is "don't buy paint that needs a vortex mixer", but for me it was a way to save an old paint collection, and not spend hundreds/thousands replacing it.

[plush swift]

yeah that a lot of the time is a stabilizing agent for the dyes they use

because contrast paint generally uses dye and not actual pigment

[short pawn]

I love mine but i also have wrist issues

[plush swift]

exactly. its perfect for someone like you

[lavish crescent]

I'll be honest, hell no am I hand shaking 100+ old paints to bring them back to life...

[white tangle]

First bit of layering and i think it turned out ok. Hopefully it looks better when i do all the other stuff and put it on the shield.

[short pawn]

Dont understand how you guys yet such good lines

Holy shit i was like half alseep im sorry that sentence was not legible

[dawn stream]

I haven't tried freehanding lines yet but I think the pinkie method would help

[plush swift]

Practice

[brisk vapor]

Victor got a face lift

[floral wind]

what primer could be reccomended to get close to this colour? I was thinking a pink of sorts with a zenithal of sand but im not sure

[midnight cairn]

Perhaps some kind of bone color as a basis?

[ocean pendant]

With GW sprays Zandri Dust is probably your best bet

[ocean pendant]

Found this one online with pictures and recipes, might help
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAstraMilitarum/comments/pmqho1/and_now_that_it_finally_has_a_coat_of_paint/

[plush swift]

any nato tan color really

rustoleum camo tan if you want to cheap out

its the same thing as most hobby sprays considering they make most of them

[mint dove]

Got some warbikers almost done

[rare hornet]

Started work on the shields, a little bit left to do on the opposite side but I’m liking the contrast between white shield and black armour

[teal wolf]

Have an abomination

[south stratus]

What the fuck is that abomination? I can’t tell if it’s worse or better than the grey knight baby carrier

[teal wolf]

A brutalis crusading warsuit
(It's not glued)

[south stratus]

Fair enough lol

Idk how useful that power fist will be though

[teal wolf]

Was just messing with the guy I'm painting for

[south stratus]

A little high up for it

[tawdry quartz]

I decided to get the Legionaires Kill Team to learn with. I have now learned that I love to hate painting Chaos Marines.

[barren verge]

Look... looks like rager no?

[dawn stream]

Lieutenant in Phobos Armor, Raven Guard style

Removed the suppressor. Didn't like it

[mint dove]

Warbikers ready to splatter the nearest guard unit and/or Grot

[vale breach]

Just gotta base him!

[tacit chasm]

Just got into airbrushing, this is my first mini using it. It's super cool but I gotta redo the Tesla glow and the cockpit glow is a bit too strong. It is still a WIP.

[vale breach]

Air brushing scares me nice job

[tacit chasm]

Not gonna lie, I was scarred every time I was pressing the trigger 😄
But thanks mate ❤️

[cedar ibex]

Hey finally starting my hobby journey again, and I’m documenting the process! Follow along here:

The Last Nerd is BACK
https://youtu.be/WCiQK4AILSg

[barren verge]

You paint army on channel?

[cedar ibex]

That’s the next video 😉

[barren verge]

Oohh ulgo watch it

[cedar ibex]

Thanks! Ulgo will like

[rare hornet]

Heheheh

[vale pollen]

Ouch... your bank account

Nice haul tho

[rare hornet]

Benefits of having a birthday 🥳

[vale pollen]

Eyyyy even better then

Happy bday

[rare hornet]

Thank you!!! :3

[compact umbra]

ooo, do you have custodies too or is it for a character kitbash?

[rare hornet]

I do have some custodes I’m slowly working on yas :3

[compact umbra]

nice!

i was gonna gonan say it would be a cool company champion kitbash, but im not too sure if BT use the eagle at all

wait the blade champion is wearing normal shoes lmao

[compact umbra]

based

is that gw gold?

[rare hornet]

Yes

[rare hornet]

That is Retributor gold with Fleshshade wash over it, for the new formula of wash this is the model in particular

[compact umbra]

Nice!

[brisk vapor]

Very little progress today, went through some areas that have not really seen any paint yet and gave those some base tones with the colours I already had on the palette. So here's a kinda overall mid process pic of the whole model

[white tangle]

To anyone that has used contrast paint, how does it feel? When using it, does it act like a gw shade?

[sweet sinew]

Painted my first Imperial Fist today

[long dune]

LOL

[midnight locust]

WiP. Need highlights

[visual turret]

very much looking forward to seeing sienna's glorious fiery hair once you get to it. Looks amazing so far!

[signal crane]

My Knight Lancer (left) won the joust

Was a full on joust. Whoever makes the charge first gets tank shock and to fight, before the loser falls back and they loop around to go again. Both sides count as honored for a 5+ FNP to make it last more than one round

[midnight locust]

I also dunno if I need a darker red or if the highlights will carry the bits I’ve gone darker on (below the tau insignia on his chest for example)

[mint dove]

Warboss with attack squig wip. Meet Warboss big chompa and his pet, Lil chompa

[vernal mesa]

Holy shit that store you suggest is amazing @plush swift I thought I could go on my lunch break and… I may have missed the whole lunch part of the break.

[small quarry]

Does Citadel paint work on ABS plastic? I’m tempted to paint my SSGE Optimus and make him look like Ancient Rylanor :P

It ain’t the best but I’m still tempted to do it lol

[brisk vapor]

Appreciate it, the hair is very intimidating but hopefully it'll turn out okay 😄

[dawn stream]

The progress so far has been excellent. You've got this

[mint dove]

Warboss Big chompa base coat done

[plush swift]

You're welcome

[mint merlin]

I wanted to ask you about inks, if you don't mind. I was speaking to a shop owner yesterday about acrylic inks, and he told me that one of the best in the field are Schmincke inks (He wasn't trying to sell them, he didn't have any and wasn't interested in ordering for me). Would you agree with him, and are there other very good inks?

[plush swift]

The brand is considered a quality brand, the inks I need to review again. Their burnt sienna both pisses me off and i adore it, basically it uses pbr25(benzimidazalone brown) and not pb7(burnt sienna) which works very differently. Last time I tried them they got a "too expensive for what you get" rank

they werent bad, just overpriced and there is better quality for cheaper

[steady wren]

His name is Brother Tyriel

[midnight cairn]

Nice! I like that he has some dirt and scratches rather than being all shiny.

[steady wren]

He's meant to look like a hardened veteran out on crusade for Emperor knows how long

[teal wolf]

He looks awesome! How'd you do the base??

[steady wren]

I just use valhallan blizzard and then painted the rim with corvus black

[elfin leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

only noticed it now

I wonder if we ever got in touch about the models or not, either way I'm happy to see more people do cool projects with the Ubersreik Five

[brisk vapor]

Hah, been working on it for a bit over two months now

Thanks still

[teal wolf]

No way, doesn't look like texture paint at first glance.

[visual shale]

Kitbashed an Assault Intercessor Sergeant

[brisk vapor]

Flame on

[mint merlin]

Got a bootleg empire captain, what can I write in these areas?

Well, apart from "Sigmar","Karl Franz" or a stylish "KF"

[bleak parcel]

Bretonnian Duke

[alpine zealot]

Blood Angels MkVI Veteran

[mint dove]

Warboss done! I may go back and weather him in the future but I like how he sits now

[vale pollen]

The mk 7 helmets are peak bro

[brazen badger]

Not my best work, but it's the first large model that I've done.

It wasn't fun, but at least it's finished. Does it look good?

[vale pollen]

Looks clean to me. And I get that, not the biggest fan of painting vehicles/bigger things

[dawn stream]

That's a nice looking Dreadnought

[karmic coral]

Fun lil' kitbash in progress

[hollow goblet]

How do I get GW to respond to customer service stuff?

I bought a disciples of tzeentch vanguard box and it's missing a whole fkn tzaangor sprue

emailed them like 3 times to no reply

I've heard they're usually pretty good for responding to customer complaints but I've gotten pure radio silence since

[brisk vapor]

It usually takes around 3 days to a week for a response, depending how busy they are

[visual shale]

Facts

[vale breach]

He's all done

[plush swift]

call them

it forces them to respond instantly

[hollow goblet]

For an otherwise intelligent person it actually never occurred to me they'd have a phone line for this lmao

[hollow goblet]

Yeah it's been about 8 days since I sent the first one I feel like I gotta harass them a lil more lol

[brisk vapor]

Yeah might be a good idea to send another message, although it might just be a busy period

Or call

[hollow goblet]

Tzaangors have caused me so much pain and suffering they'd better be OP next edition

[brisk vapor]

Wouldn't bet on it

[hollow goblet]

Yeah I wish they'd get something cool bc they feel like a cultist reskin sometimes

[plush swift]

This calls for a "dumbass", but yeah call them, anytime ive had an issue with a thing, solved within 10-20 minutes

Thats the one credit I give to GW

their customer service is on point, but only if you call as the email system is slow and awful

[hollow goblet]

Yee I'll give em a ring in the morn it's like 9pm here rn

Ty

[plush swift]

i thought you lived in europe not greenland

[hollow goblet]

Nah I'm the Australian lmao

[plush swift]

right

I dont know why i forget that

i guess you havent mocked me enough for it to sink into my head youre an aussie

[proper pollen]

say hello to my assault intercessors:

[sweet sinew]

I forgot to post this the other day

Working on The Lion as we speak

[mint dove]

3 months progress

[fervent trout]

First warhammer mini finished this year

[midnight cairn]

Is that your homebrew loyalist successor chapter? 🤔

[visual turret]

looks great! SUPER clean colour working, well done!

[proper pollen]

Alpha Legion 😄

[proper pollen]

Updated my intercessors with some wear and tear ❤️

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984253393981816913/1217911634803294299/alpha_weartear1.jpg?ex=6605bf99&is=65f34a99&hm=e9ddf6db4fb44be9cba044df6b70c7c4d501d1b8c87b4b009b74546c7b83be1a&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984253393981816913/1217911635235180664/alpha_weartear2.jpg?ex=6605bf99&is=65f34a99&hm=60c70511866ca35322d61a874bfb3ff0029bb0a904e43980e097e2c8e3399b18&

[brazen badger]

Thanks!

[dawn stream]

He reminds me of the Dreadlords from Diablo

[midnight cairn]

I really like the play of colors on that lifted chain axe, well done!

That bit of wear & tear really adds a lot to the models 🤘

[proper pollen]

Thanks! Taken a while to reach this point! 🙏

[compact umbra]

Chaos corrupted um or gulliman heresy?

I love that blue!

[proper pollen]

Alpha Legion

[compact umbra]

Nice!

[proper pollen]

Though with the “omegas”, they could be fun to play as ultramarines in a dornian heresy setting

[sweet sinew]

New promotion at work means I get to do primarchs back to back

[compact umbra]

Omega legion

[woeful vale]

finished my terminator squad just a couple days ago ❤️

[wise shuttle]

Capitan oh capitan

[mint dove]

Best eyes I've ever painted

[plush swift]

they look like eyes i guess

so there is a win for your day

[silver thorn]

looks good!!

[rare hornet]

That is impressive

[visual turret]

chat, what colour should I make my next knight

I have a purple/black one, a white/orange one, a nice dark green

[plush swift]

all the aabove

[native sluice]

Hot pink

[edgy jackal]

Colour shift paint might be an interesting choice for a knight

Or galaxy/nebula cloud themes

[visual turret]

I'm gonna do this pose

with this knight

[elder veldt]

So random painting question. Isn't a GW mini but it is made of ABS plastic. Can I use the standard paints one would typically use for the hobby? >.>

[mint merlin]

you can use even basic house paint color to paint minis, no matter what's it put on

[ocean pendant]

Paint is paint, it's not specific to GW minis

[elder veldt]

I didn't figure it was I just don't know much about the paints or plastics.

Just seen paints not work well on certain types of plastics and stuff and trying not to waste more money 😅