40k-minis-and-armies

[wise escarp]

i will keep those "headcanon" homebrew Krieg limited to killteam though. its expensive enough to build 1 Krieg 2000points army i think

[plush swift]

Idk about my Slaanesh guys. They’re looking for challenges within the galaxy to excite them

[wise escarp]

that is always a plausible approach

[plush swift]

But my Nightlords tho, I got something spicy for them

[wise escarp]

astartes i assume? they are getting their own killteam just in case you did not know yet

[plush swift]

Yes, but the lost and the damned (if I can find them) are in their warband, led by the Pale Ire of Curze. He’d whip slaves into shape to become nothing but meat shields and distractions, but by climbing to the top, you will be ranked as an Ichabite, his own trained traitor guardsmen. But the lessers would have their fair share of the spoils of war; ammo, guns, and women to produce new Astartes.

[wise escarp]

thats the beautiful thing. my Krieg traitors for these guys wouldnt need that whipping into shape. they are already willing meatshields

just need to come up with why this particular unit would work for the traitors. maybe the nightlords terrorised the leadership of a planetary war into being their puppet

are you gonna wait and buy the nightlord killteam or are you making them yourself?

[grizzled jolt]

Custom ogryn bulwark and more cadians (wip)

[compact umbra]

I think my rattle can is fucked every time I do black it comes out shit lol

[mint merlin]

Seeing that gave me an idea
I should do an asterix themed comissar with an obelix ogryn

[jaunty trail]

Squad finally done... bases will be decorated this evening...

[visual turret]

Chaos black primer. Abadddob black heavy drybrush to ensure full coverage. - lighter Skavenblight dinge drybrush in the middle of the armour plates to provide the smallest contrast and help make it less flat.

[wise escarp]

clean

also btw is there anyone else who thinks keeping the base black is kind of nice?

i see all these amazing artworks on the base with trench material, skulls and bricks, muddy ground etc

it looks amazing for a display but i feel like it would bother me immensely during play on different maps

why is my Krieg standing in a muddy trench while fighting in a metal-floor hab block or water-planet platform?

i think the black (or possibly another neutral colour) works perfectly to allow your mini to fit in anywhere without edging on

[short pawn]

It honestly does bother me. But i love the storytelling bases allow you

[wise escarp]

no ofc it looks amazing

absolute compliment to anyone who does them

i just feel like id dislike them on anything but a climate-themed group like an arctic camo Krieg team that id only play on snow maps

thats where i could see this for sure

[short pawn]

I so badly want to paint this guy so bad but i still haven't even painted a single correct white scar in a month

[wise escarp]

but any general army id bring to random games, i think i will paint very neutral so noone can tell me i just "didnt bother" while keeping it neutral.
its like a black suit. it goes with everything

[short pawn]

I was about to mention this lol. Snow themes kinda suck because nobody runs snow maps

[wise escarp]

you mean youre messing up?

[short pawn]

I'm not finding a process that I enjoy doing repeatedly

[wise escarp]

i heard white paints from citadel are bad and you should look into other manufacturers if that helps

[short pawn]

Rn I've just been trying to experiment with different paints and coverage, primers, etc

[wise escarp]

"golden flow titanium white" is a name i heard from 2 ppl now

[short pawn]

Oh yeah i got hooked on that stuff from corpse starch here

I love it

[wise escarp]

ah alright

same

[short pawn]

I mean im ngl either, painting space marines is so easy its hard

Like its a completely different process than my usual age of sigmarians or cadians

The lack of detail means you reslly have to define your colors well

[visual turret]

shoulda made him akira slide

[short pawn]

Next time i have to because that just looks too badass

[edgy jackal]

Some people put their units on clear bases for that exact reason, so that you can always see the gameboard underneath.

[visual turret]

I take it you've binged white scar painting guides right?

painting white is hard, so don't paint them white

[wise escarp]

that is a pretty cool idea actually but i wonder if that looks tacky.

[visual turret]

paint them grey and work up

[wise escarp]

maybe highquality so it looks like glass?

[short pawn]

Yes, they're largely unhelpful due to the process being way too long for an army

[visual turret]

use white as a highlight and it will make the greys look white

[wise escarp]

i wouldnt want it looking like cheap clear plastic

[short pawn]

I dont use citadel white, so the white itself is solid

I'm basically slamming my head into a brickwall trying to find a clear, fast but good way to bang out an army.

Going to strip down all the attempted white scars most likely, I'm basically just trying to find my comfort zone

[edgy jackal]

Personally, I'd go the airbrush/rattlecan route for white/cream colours. The simplest method I can think of is grey seer spray, oil pinwashes, titanium white for highlights.

[short pawn]

I'm gonna sound picky and obnoxious I know, but I don't want to edge highlight a space marine. I plan to tamiya panel line them though

I'm gonna try a zenthinal highlight for my next marine, I think. Chaos black and grey seer then ill just base coat with my white golden paint

My main issue with the grey seer primer is its hard for me to see what i havent gone over yet with my white

[edgy jackal]

https://youtu.be/BVEryaNlox8?si=Z7gZoG3qi09jVNPR&t=812

Here's one example

[edgy jackal]

With zenithal its even easier, yeah, but I think chaos black might be too dark for the shadows.

[wise escarp]

i dont like that one actually

its the cheap plastic look i mean

[short pawn]

Any color you'd recommend?

[wise escarp]

i think id actually make them glass bases if i did that. good idea though. i never thought about it

[edgy jackal]

From the GW rattlecan line, maybe mechanicus standard grey. I honestly can't say certainly which shade of grey would work best, but I know that black was too dark for my killteam minis, and I imagine it might be too dark for white scars. I felt as if the shadows were really deep, with no reflected light from the environment illuminating it even a little.

[edgy jackal]

plastic bases
see through, gluable, can screw in magnets, long lasting

VS

actual glass
fragile, good luck drilling, causes shards if it's dropped.

[short pawn]

I'll look into it a bit, but i appreciate the warning on the black a lot.

[wise escarp]

true but im not familiar with models that need drilling

but there must be some nicer plastic around

that one really doesnt look that pretty

fake glass is a thing after all. that might do the trick

[edgy jackal]

There's also this: https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/round/2543-acrylic-bases-round-285mm-clear.html
But I don't know how different that is to the stuff in the video.

You can always varnish the clear base with gloss varnish to change the sheen.

[short pawn]

Tbh i think im gonna take a break from experimenting with my space marines and just focus on finishing up my full cadian army

It's really demotivating to not finish a single model or have any real progress after a month

@plush swift Do you know if a matt varnish finish will tone down the glossiness of the golden high flow paints? Or is there anything else i could do to minimize it?

[plush swift]

yes, matte varnish will. You can also in theory mix in a little matte medium too

personally I use the gloss to my advantage by using it to mark highlights then I put on a matte varnish

[short pawn]

Wow, that's a great idea

Thanks for your response, I was a little worried about it.

[rare hornet]

He done

[stray elm]

With gloss varnishes if you want to they can really help out some types of washes before you do something else over the top

[sterile grail]

very clean, youve improved

[rare hornet]

Thank you!!

[barren sphinx]

Broooo! I'm doing templars too! That looks mint man, and I love that you went with the veteran red cross on the pauldron

[rare hornet]

Well all terminators are sword brothers

[barren sphinx]

Exaaaactly! a small part of me is sad when I see a white pauldron on a BT terminator

Even tho they always look better than I could do 😅

[rare hornet]

my old terminators had white shoulders

[barren sphinx]

Ngl, same. I tried my first one with no info on how to paint at all and he ended up all clumpy.

Then as I started watching tutorials I started keening up to the heraldry too

[rustic torrent]

Anyone got any tips with painting, I just started a month ago and I got the leviathan box arriving tomorrow for the big boost to my tyranids army

[brisk vapor]

Black leather texture

[barren sphinx]

There's a really good video by brushstroke painting guides on YouTube about thinning your paint. After i watched that video there was pretty quick improvement, thinning paints is #1 from what ive gathered.

And vince venturalla has really in depth videos for a huge number of techniques

[pulsar moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/599510081435992071/1203369483066937364/SmartSelect_20240130_204153_WhatsApp.png?ex=65d0d82a&is=65be632a&hm=3993abbd03b41032e0d5e3b3c4da73ee27fd648b4001f101504525bcd6fa38a5&

[brisk vapor]

that's honestly great

[edgy jackal]

What do you mean by that?

[plush swift]

The best advice I can ever give you is ignore every single hobby painting video out there and go to a canvas tutorial, you'll learn more in 10 minutes than you will learn in hours of those videos. The majority of mini painters are self-taught which means they have very little practical information and a lot of the times they overcomplicate things

Most canvas artists however who make tutorials, are actual accredited art teachers so they tend to make things much simpler and easier to understand, some aren't but you can easily tell when they're overcomplicating a subject

And yes the skills are interchangeable, despite what mini painters want to say. They are the exact same skill, mini painters want to claim that they paint thinner, which is a bullshit boldface lie

Just flat out, And I say this as an art teacher myself

I teach mini painting and I teach canvas painting

There is zero difference between the skills

[plush swift]

Basically where the glossy nature of the paint is reflecting, I will mark it out with a highlight from the angle that I want, this way I can get more accurate reflections for something like nonmetallic metals instead of them looking like They are flat 2D like most things do within this hobby, I want that 3D look and that actually requires a better gloss to understand how the highlight will work on this specific substrate

In fact with a semi-satin varnish you can enhance the look of most 3D objects over pure matte

You're looking to control the lights but not abusively control the lights, a little bit of natural play doesn't hence things quite a bit

[dawn stream]

I watched one video and the guy in it explained it well enough that I got a good grasp on the process immediately

[edgy jackal]

That makes a lot of sense, thanks. Probably helps with painting volumetric highlights, or even regular highlights.

[dawn stream]

https://youtu.be/LLJwh4ClZ6U?si=ba_r6MWV5cUA2jnl

[plush swift]

I cant watch this guy after he said dirty downs was nontoxic, which caused two of my students to drink it because they thought it would be funny

[dawn stream]

That's just stupid

[plush swift]

I teach low income people, their medical bills came out of my pocket

[dawn stream]

Supposedly non toxic or not, drinking paint is a Darwin Award

[plush swift]

His videos have cost me a lot of money because he doesnt provide any safety advice

[plush swift]

the mini painting community has this as a meme and claim paint is edible because its non-toxic

[dawn stream]

I would say it was more on your students for doing something as stupid as drinking paint

[plush swift]

literaly, been here for over 5 years now, the amount of people ive seen who have drank paint is.... way more then you'd expect

[edgy jackal]

To be fair, way too many people lick their brushes, which isn't as bad as drinking paint, but pretty close.

[plush swift]

Oh its partially their fault but if midwinter said "this stuff is toxic" instead of "its nontoxic, it wont hurt you" then it would never have happened

And this stuff keeps popping up

the community constantly talks about consuming paint, the youtubers say nothing then get EVERYTHING wrong about paint chemistry

Goobertown is the worst for this too, he has spread major serious lies about paint safety multiple times

he has yet to respond to my emails which contain proof of this

and hes a phd chemist, so he should have some common sense

Hell some companies lie about their toxicity all the time, like vallejo

vallejo uses a stupidly toxic chemical called 2-butoxy ethanol in their flow improver

the bottle says non-toxic

how is this legal? its not

no one cares though

[jaunty trail]

Thanks!

[plush swift]

Minor improvement

Congrats

[jaunty trail]

@plush swift as always i try to improve my basic skills xD

[plush swift]

it was noticable

[jaunty trail]

Yip but still far away from "good" 🤣

[plush swift]

good is in the eye of the beholder

how do we compare good anyways?

we cant

[jaunty trail]

For me it's hard cuz my buddies are epic painters... two of my buddies paint for the local warhammer store window... their skill is galaxies better than mine xD but thats okay

[plush swift]

For me, I set this as my baseline for good

its not perfect

but it is good

[jaunty trail]

@plush swift one of my buddies is painting on that skill base xD

She often wins local painting competitions xD

[plush swift]

If she is, get her in contact with me, museums and galleries are looking for these

the last one sold at auction for $75,000

[jaunty trail]

@plush swift she wont paint anything else than 40k minis... and she has kind of a history why she doesnt really trusts in her skills

[plush swift]

We just had an opening that was nothing but 40k figures at a fine art museum funny enough

[jaunty trail]

🤣 nice

But she is always like "i'm shitty in painting minis" and if you try to tell something else she just stops painting for a year.

[plush swift]

the fine art community has been doing this stuff for about 20 years now, we just dont tend to associate with those called mini painters because they dont make things that can be housed in a gallery

the paints arent light fast enough nor can they survive open environment well

[plush swift]

call her bad then

thats what she wants

[jaunty trail]

@plush swift not when i know that there are mental health problems in background.. she is very fragile.

[plush swift]

Ahh the best kind, dont comment, just say "its painted"

my favorite kind

[jaunty trail]

I mostly say nothing. Thats the best i can do. Mostly when she is around she has as much space she needs and all her buddies as also her bf and me try to give her a protected zone where she can feel comfortable.

[dawn stream]

Picked up some new paints and a very fine tipped brush

[mint dove]

I really need to get new brushes

[dawn stream]

Gonna get some basing materials, too

My Space Marine bases are urban, my Eldar bases are going to be rural

[dawn stream]

My new brush

[silver thorn]

not mine

[white tangle]

Will it look strange if I make the base like a desert sort of thing, even though the feet areas are dark brown?

[mint dove]

Dare you to base coat a razorback with that

[dawn stream]

God, that would take forever. And also ruin the point

[mint dove]

Yknow I was going to ask a question on how to paint something

But I'm gonna do something I haven't done yet

Experiment and figure it out myself

[mortal haven]

Impossible! you must be judged by randos on discord

[mint dove]

No handholding on this one! I'm gonna fail or succeed on my own

THEN I will be judged by discord randos

[short pawn]

Armor can get dirty in mysterious ways

[mortal haven]

Lol “Da Boyz Hut” is the label I have on my box of unassembled Ork minis.

[mint dove]

Lol for all the orks I'm getting 3d printed I'll soon have a box of unpainted orks to put in the Hut as well

[mint dove]

I've also found a use for my tamiya scriber I've has sitting on my desk for almost 5 years

Easy, fast, wood grain effect

[plush swift]

I support the choice in picking up golden

[white tangle]

@plush swift Out of curiosity, do you paint minis or are you just like a painter painter?

[plush swift]

I do

[warm elm]

Just picked up my first knight

THEYRE SO BIG

[plush swift]

@white tangle this is just a wip, its not very good but its a table top standard

still needs a lot of touch ups

[native sluice]

Okay, I'm taking that eye glow effect

It is now mine and that area has now reverted back to being unpainted and unprimed

[short pawn]

hes so evil and pretty

[plush swift]

its a base of a mixture of py184 and pg36 then I worked up with more py184, then topped it with some cadmium lemon

[native sluice]

Py- pg- Who- wha-

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-shocked-sunlight-gif-13255586

[plush swift]

then I glazed pg36+py175 for the glow

[plush swift]

pigment codes, I dont use mini paints

I much prefer mixing my own colors than buying one

I can modify them much easier so I can get better blends and gradients

[frigid stump]

My 1st imperial fist, I defo need more experience with yellow thou

[jaunty trail]

Painted with classical Citadel yellow or with a contrast?

[frigid stump]

Wraithbone then Ivanden Yellow

It's abit rough but irl it don't look so bad

Next time I was gonna go with Flash Gitz Yellow then Ivanden and see a comparison

[jaunty trail]

Never said it looked bad or so.. just was curious.

But if you want to give "Imperial Fist" Contrast a try just look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEcNnCYHVFM

This made me use Imperial Fist Contrast and it works good

[plush swift]

I should do a tutorial on painting yellow

I constantly forget people dont use cadmium

understanding transparency is a huge thing with yellow

its not hard to paint, you just need to change your perspective on how to paint

also understanding that yellow will either be a green or a red is another important aspect of it

yellow might be a primary color in paint, but it isnt in light

[frigid stump]

I slapchoped the Wraithbone on then did the Ivanden, but since it was kinda slapped on, there were spots were the Ivanden just hit the black and made things more complicated

[plush swift]

use violet, brown, magenta or red instead of black

I personally use violet

it gives a much more muted shading effect and looks like shading over magenta

[frigid stump]

I'm gonna watch the vid, but my plan after was to use flash gitz yellow base down, then use the Ivanden

I only have Chaos Black Primer

Pain

[plush swift]

rip. you'll just get green hues

[frigid stump]

I was gonna see if my local game shop could order me Zandri Dust primer

I'll need for my Guard Anyways

[plush swift]

go get automotive primer

its cheaper and the same stuff

[jaunty trail]

if i prime parts of minis (for contrast or so) i mostly use mechanicum standard grey or white scar (rattlecan)

[plush swift]

I use golden highflow or autoborne sealer

[frigid stump]

I'll have to take a look into it

[plush swift]

for spray cans I use rustoleum camo

[jade swift]

is there a reason theres so many brown streaks all over his armor?

[jaunty trail]

The crusade grows...

[mint dove]

I forgot how much of a pain in the ass ordering with the post office is

Expecting a package today, said it arrived in sacramento this morning, then at my post office, then LEFT the Sacramento office, then was out for delivery, then arrived at the post office

This is why I avoid the post office whenever possible

[wise escarp]

what chapter is that? black templars do not have red so commonly, right?

[runic brook]

what's the easiest army to paint? maybe a top 3. looking to get my hands on my first set of minis and i'd like so do something easy to start with

[wise escarp]

if you want actual practice material, id recommend not getting official 40k figures

there is cheaper material around. if you want to jump into painting with beloved 40k, should it not be something you actually enjoy as well?

[runic brook]

i think there's only a few factions that i generally dislike

the tyrranids are eh, orks are eh and genestealers are eh

that's why i asked such a general question

[wise escarp]

do you really not have in mind what you actually want to play/collect?

as i said, if you just want to practice and these figures are throw-aways, id recommend getting a cheap model from non-gw franchise

[runic brook]

i live in a backwater town in a backwater country. the only people i ever hear talking about wh40k are my american online friends and my 2 irl friends whom i indoctrinated into the universe some time ago

[wise escarp]

so its about collections then? i suppose that frees up the "focus" on one faction a little

tyranids are the only models that i hear are generally easy to handle

[runic brook]

true enough, though collections always look better when made around a theme

[wise escarp]

exactly

thats why id buy proper trash to practice on if you want something easy and dont plan on it making it into your proper collection

might be fun to get something from your fav though and have a "my first model" feeling for it

i know im glad i started with my favourites even though i dont think they are that easy

tyranids are "easy" to paint i hear but you dont like them so its a waste of money compared to cheaper plastic models to practice on

[runic brook]

thing is, i don't really have a favorite? i can never choose just one faction in any setting

[wise escarp]

stay away from whites and yellows perhaps

[runic brook]

SoB are cool. certain SM chapters are nice. certain CSM legions are cool. IG are cool (though expensive and old i hear). DE are nice...

traitor guard could be cool though i'm not sure if there are dedicated models for them

[wise escarp]

faces are hard

helmeted marines might be a good starting point as long as you stay away from whites and yellows

if you want some organic messy fun, go for deathguard. it shakes up the factory-lined armour rims with the occasional tentacle

[visual turret]

Depends, really IIRC

[wise escarp]

so its black templars?

i just wasnt sure if it was a chapter im not aware of

[runic brook]

was gonna say i'm just gonna buy a single inquisitor and be happy with my lil man but that violates the face rule

[wise escarp]

watching tutorials helps a lot with faces but you need that detail brush and you need some practice

[runic brook]

how are night lords?

[true path]

Archaon on foot, games day 2004. First time pinning a model.

[true path]

Depends. You can do night lords simple blue. You can do them metallic blue/green. You can paint scales on em. You can free hand lightning on em.

[runic brook]

hard to paint or not hard to paint?

[true path]

Blue and red are easy colours for painting.

[jaunty trail]

It's Black Templars... Sternguards have black shoulders and red Trims in case of their combat role

[wise escarp]

i see

[plush swift]

All factions can be painted the exact same way

GW actually prefers you to use custom factions than their own too

[runic brook]

source for this? their past infatuation with the ultramarines is telling me otherwise

not saying it's not true, it just doesn't seem like a GW thing to say

[plush swift]

It has to do with tournament painting guides, historically people who use canonical factions have gotten fucked over because they'd have to buy an army for each one, while a custom one could do all of them

also the ultramarine thing has a lot to do with Matt Ward not GW

[runic brook]

now i'm not quite sure i get what you mean

[plush swift]

Basically if you're playing black templars, you can only ever play black templars, but say you made your own chapter, you could play black templars or salamanders, or what ever

the rules on that have toned down a little but its still enforced at a lot of stores for crusade events

[runic brook]

would you not have to pick one to play in the actual game to get army rules?

[plush swift]

no

You dont

[runic brook]

i was for sure it was needed. good to know if i ever get to play the game

[plush swift]

paint the entire army purple, then use the salamanders rules

and if those get nerfed, swap over to iron hands

without needing to repaint the army

its the same for every army too, necrons, eldar, etc

the only army where paint scheme means very little on is knights

[runic brook]

are sisters hard to paint?

[plush swift]

Nothing is hard to paint

painting it well is another story

dont focus on whats easier or harder to paint, this will always set you up for failure

Ive had many students do this over the years, and it always causes them to flunk out of school

[visual turret]

Paint what you want to paint

And if it’s hard, it will get easier

Keep at it

[true path]

models you like are the easiest to paint. If you like the sculpts, the lore, the characters, any of that in any combination, you'll like em. And that's easier to paint than "something easy"
if you want the easy road all the time, there are techniques for that which can be applied to everything. "Slap chop" is a method that uses contrast paints over greyscale highlights to make your models look great, quickly.
I prefer to use traditional methods, but I like using new techniques with them.
My models look like these bois.

that kit of five chosen took 40 hours to complete with my methods because I put a lot of care and attention to detail in, and because my metallic purple armor takes 13 layers to do.
You can absoluely go batshit crazy like I enjoy doing. Or, you can go with simpler methods. Most people are doing 3-5 passes on their models and it's easy to se why when you have to paint 50-200 models.

[plush swift]

slapchop is a traditional technique, its real name is scumbling, it was invented by the artist Titian in the 16th century. Y'all really need to learn your art history, y'all missing out on so many things that would boost your game

Scumbling was one of the prime techniques for Claude Monet, one of the most famous painters of all time

y'all just 600 years behind the rest of the art world

[short pawn]

Did you get bit by a southern vampire

[plush swift]

I live in the south and I am a goth

[short pawn]

You got bit by a southern vampire

[plush swift]

It wasnt the south back then

[hearty bear]

Genestealer cults:

[plush swift]

Not hard to paint at all.

Just slap paint on and not give a fuck

hard to paint well, thats a different story

[hearty bear]

Are you on crack

The amount of small details is mind-boggling

That paired with the sheer number you have to paint

[true path]

that's nice, but monet was french, unfortunately.

[runic brook]

https://www.warhammer.com/en-EU/shop/kill-team-blooded-2022

not exactly sure why these are under CSM but hey, not complaining

love me some chaos guard

[plush swift]

and?

[true path]

this might only be available through GW, so you'd either be looking at second hand or paying full MSRP

[plush swift]

Dont let me stop your asinine racism here, continue

[true path]

number of details doesn't make a model harder to paint. Just makes it take longer.

[plush swift]

I never said it was easy to paint well, I said it was easy to paint

[true path]

slapchop is fine, I didn't say it was bad.

[plush swift]

No, continue about monet being french

Go a head, I'm waiting

[true path]

what's wrong with him being french?

[plush swift]

Nothing at all, why did you bring it up in the first place?

[true path]

Why did you interpret that his being french is bad?

[plush swift]

You said "thats nice, but monet was french, unfortunately"

[true path]

and? He could've been Italian, ballers like Michaelangelo and Raphael and Donatello are Italian.

missed opportunity smdh

[plush swift]

country has nothing to do what I was saying

so why even bring it up?

[true path]

for the record I'm not taking you or this conversation seriously ever since you mentioned a traditional painting method like a complete snob.

and came in with an "ackshually"

[plush swift]

I'm a doctor of art history

[true path]

that's cool

[plush swift]

So yeah, it is a traditional technique

[true path]

don't have to be that way

[plush swift]

Just block me if it bothers you

[true path]

no, but I have set a note so I remember this conversation years from now

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-grudges-total-war-warhammer-dwarfs-dwarf-vengeance-gif-19626646

[plush swift]

If you all learn a bit about art history, you have no idea how many techniques you all can learn that would speed up everything

[short pawn]

I mean yeah but not everybody is painting for the art of it. I'd argue a majority aren't. It's war dollies

[plush swift]

Well if you're looking for speed, nothing can beat some of the 15th century techniques for it, they would paint war dollies at the standard most do now, in less than 20 minutes

and the details on them while yes, were less, it wasnt that much less

they needed thousands on a table after all

I believe rome used them too

just cant remember off the top of my head

the history of war games is interesting to me

[short pawn]

I think you're approaching it from a different angle though. Accessbility wise, people who just paint their armies aren't going to delve into 15th century art lessons. They just want to paint

Feel like the layman doesn't want or need to minmax

[plush swift]

its more about looking up techniques old masters taught

if they did that then things like slapchop wouldnt be seen as "only bad painters use it" type thing

wouldnt be as gatekept

[short pawn]

But you get my point. Picking up a white dwarf magazine is more approachable than a 15th century art lesson

A lot of people choose to stay uneducated

[plush swift]

i mean white dwarf is part of art history

a lot of those older techniques can be made to great use these days

[mint dove]

Gonna show up to an official GW tournament with the official GW trash tank

[sterile grail]

i mean if you do it for fun like any models is fine. But if you are keen on making good quality models i feel like space marine is the most straightforward process to learn. Idc what people say about edge highlighting because its been associated with eavy metal way too much but it teaches you brush control and such.

Funny enough i thought cadians shock troops is easier to paint than space marine, i was wrong lol, i find it to be a little trickier.

[past flint]

do you think people would get upset at me if i took my ad mech army to the local warhammer store to play and i snuck in a sentry bot

"that's a fucked up looking castellan robot"

got some space marines in 😎

[signal plover]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[true path]

first shot at wet blending

[alpine wyvern]

finished my kill team!

[sterile grail]

what an army damn

[mint dove]

Pretty happy with my wood grain effect

Just pla plate and scored the hell out of it

[mint dove]

I'm liking this model,

Got a really solid coat of mephiston red down before I realized I forgot to sand the support bumps on his coat

Yknow what

They're barnacles now

Fuck it who cares

[sterile grail]

thats some legit wood.

[mint dove]

Thanks! First try but I kinda cheated lol

Gray primer>wildwood contrast>baneblade drown drybrush>reikland fleshade wash>

[sterile grail]

cheat? nah. It easier but achieve good results, the better.

[hoary ermine]

Thousand sons Sniper, a master of signals, a numerologist and the last 3 are a; guardsman project, a world eaters moritat and a thousand sons librarian

[plush swift]

There is no cheating, people who call it cheating are just simply trying to gatekeep artistry and creativity.

[hollow goblet]

Someone needs to tell my wife this

[plush swift]

I'm pretty sure a body pillow wouldnt notice a second body pillow

[hollow goblet]

And yet she does

Never should have used one of my 3 wishes to give her sentience

[barren sphinx]

Tabbards are hard man

[sterile grail]

your mini goes hard 🙈

[barren sphinx]

Thank you!

[steep pond]

I think it depends on the player lol

fallout wasteland warfare models look so good

[white tangle]

If the mini i am painting has a premoulded base, can i still put texture paint on it or is it not advised? It has things like shell casings and rocks that i would like to still be visible at the end.

[dawn stream]

A thin coat would probably be fine

[brisk vapor]

Today's focus was steel

[dawn stream]

I'm going to experiment with plastic cement

I've been using super glue so far but I wanted to see how other adhesives perform

[plush swift]

you can, but it can be tricky to avoid the shell casings and extra details

[plush swift]

think of plastic cement as a misnomer, its more like fusing the plastic onto each other as you melt both surfaces with a solvent like acetone or butyl acetate, it creates a more permanent bond

[dawn stream]

Yeah, that's what the bottle said it does

I've had some arms come off with the super glue

[plush swift]

I use super glue a lot, but its mostly so I can snap it off later

[short pawn]

I feel vindicated that somebody else does that

I get weird looks when i tell people I do that

[dawn stream]

I've seen where some people talk about that and putting them in the freezer to make the glue brittle

[short pawn]

It's pretty easy without the freezer but yeah I've heard of that as well

[white tangle]

How good is super glue? If i were to stick a mini to its base, then drop it, do you think it would come off the base?

[dawn stream]

They've been coming off when I don't want them to so

[short pawn]

Most likely

Just, in my experience.

[white tangle]

Oh, im just gonna stick to using plastic cement then.

[short pawn]

It's always better than citadel plastic glue though holy shit

[dawn stream]

Especially the ones with small contact space like a single foot

[short pawn]

Citadel glue doesnt fucking do anything

After like 4 months everything that relies on like gravity (like a gun hanging loose from an arm) will just fall off

I have a storage tub of cadian lasguns that fell off

[edgy jackal]

I'd be surprised if citadel plastic glue was anything other than regular platic glue.

[dawn stream]

I wouldn't be able to just snap off limbs because I'd be afraid of it snapping where I didn't want to but if you're confident and can do it, have at it

An ideal process would probably be plastic cement for affixing to base and super glue for limbs/heads/etc. that you might want to replace later

Or magnetizing

[sterile grail]

thats some crazy shading and details

completed the torso today.

[brisk vapor]

thank ye

[plush swift]

whats funny is that plastic glue is the same as most other plastic glues chemically. its the small amount of filler they put in that fucks it, its less than 1%

[vestal shale]

Lol

[wild monolith]

WIP - Painting one of my spares in different chapter to build up my painting skills.

[pastel grotto]

I love these little guys

[mint dove]

Based

Wip on my kaptian proxy

Gonna paint the feathers neon primary colors and his "beard different shades of gold

His power klaw will be yellow and the klaw bits are going to be gold

Badrukks ripper Ammo is also radioactive so I'm gonna try to do a glowing effect on that

[glossy hawk]

love this

[visual turret]

can I borrow an AOS builder's brain?

Do we know if the leg pose from Avalenor can be used w/ the hammer setup of Alarith

[visual turret]

nvm I did some lining up and nfiddling and worked out I could

[hollow goblet]

First painting sesh at new house. Doing some extremely rusty Necrons

Not quite happy with how the glow effect turned out but it'll do for now

[mint dove]

Was getting some paint today at gw store and decided to try out their artifice brushes

I assumed they were standard gw brush price

So the guy runs up 3 brushes and tells me my total is $110...for brushes

[karmic coral]

Are you in the US?

[mint dove]

Needless to say I Got my peasant brushes and left

Yep

[karmic coral]

Okay, forget Citadel Brushes then

Winsor and Newton Series 7 on Amazon

The #1 is $10 right now

You'll get a far better quality brush at a fraction of what GW upcharges

[mint dove]

Got a link to that? I can't fond any for under 30

[short pawn]

I wouldn't order expensive brushes from amazon if you can help it

Lots of random retailers who don't know how to properly ship out brushes and you'll get plenty of bad products

[mint dove]

Anybody know what time the ufthak mini and da big dakka go on preorder next week?

[karmic coral]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013E68T4/ref=twister_B01BSAR9YK?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

On the right, where you select other sellers, choose the one sold by Amazon.com.

[steady quarry]

Hey hey folks! We have a Darktide themed paint comp going for anyone interested (prizes for top 3)
https://discord.gg/32mmWnHY

[pastel grotto]

Modls

[brisk vapor]

The greatest

[pastel grotto]

Yeors

[rare hornet]

@jaunty trail @visual turret can’t remember if I put this guy in here yesterday but I’ve gotten a start on my primaris intercessors (transfers will be done when I have enough of them 😅)

[visual turret]

CLEEEEEEEEEAN

[pastel grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-woah-mind-blown-gif-20874328

C L E A N

[rare hornet]

Dry-brushing the black armour has really gotten me back into wanting to do Templars :3

[pastel grotto]

I'm gonna be painting my first models as alpha legion imperialis

These dudes tiny and I got no idea what to do

But by god am I gonna

Silly guy up to no good

[rare hornet]

I’ve heard contrasts are so good for them

Apparently you want to spray them on the sprue of possible and go from there

[pastel grotto]

Sir yes sir oorah

[brisk vapor]

Just remember to paint the legion icons on their shoulders

[visual turret]

this is how I do all my blacks. what highlight colour do you use on it? I've found Skavenblight Dinge or Eshin Grey a great choice

[visual turret]

prime - silver if possible. keep on sprue for imperialis fellas. If you have it, then you wanna use Ahkelian Green Citadel contrast paint. Over the siler it provides the PERFECT Alpha Legion colour. Then it';s just super careful picking out details

[pastel grotto]

That's my plan

Just wondering if I paint the titan the same

Could be fun

[hollow goblet]

I've found mixing Akhelian straight into vallejo metal medium is almost instant alpha legion paintjob

[hollow goblet]

It's aight anyone who collects ksons or csm has more Alpha legion transfers than they know what to do with

[brisk vapor]

True true

Although are the transfers small enough?

I was just messing about

[hollow goblet]

Oh wait if its imperialis then probably not actually lol

[pastel grotto]

Yeah and I don't think anyone will care enough to notice

Theres like 90 individual guy's

Also it's my first ever painting session, since (Horror warning) my dad paints my models for me (He loves it and it is mutually beneficial)

So I thought Id get this

[hollow goblet]

Man I'm not an alpha legion guy, their lore is objectively dumb: but I cannot resist the little meme of hiding an alpha legion transfer somewhere in every unit of space marines I've ever painted

[pastel grotto]

That is exactly why I chose them lol

[hollow goblet]

You'd be suprised how many people in the hobby just don't paint tbh

I'm literally in the process of painting like 1500pts of tyrannids bc painting was the only thing keeping my friend out of the hobby

[pastel grotto]

My dads painted 30,000 points of warhammer since we started with dark vengeance and I'm only now doing some painting myself

I feel so bad but he loves it

[hollow goblet]

Based dude

[pastel grotto]

Let me find the 7k pics of our nids

[hollow goblet]

Nah honestly as someone who's kinda that guy in my group it is really nice to have a bunch of stuff to paint that you don't necessarily need to buy or worry about what you're gonna use them for

I'm essentially getting like 120 hours of commission practise for free rn on a faction that's decently popular so it works out

[pastel grotto]

The absolute power of "Hey dad do you want to get the tyranid start collecting? They look like the zerg from sc2"

So anyway yeah alpha legion small dudes also really funny to me

Espionage and stealth chapter in a game about large scale conflict

It's like playing hitman in world war 2

[hollow goblet]

Oh that side doesn't even bother me tbh I like raven guard for similar reasons

It's more the "nah man they're playing 5d chess because they're really loyalist trust me bro they're loyal" like....are you sure

[pastel grotto]

My 5d chess is "Oh my alpha legion has decided to be traitorous today for personal reasons"

[hollow goblet]

I mean, I believe alpharius was trying to be loyalist, to be clear, but the rest of the legion clearly have no idea wtf is going on and they're just raiding and pillaging

[pastel grotto]

No idea what is going on my beloved

Might just have my army be very confused about the horus heresy and just trying to survive

They aren't sure why this titans tagged along but roll with it

Anyway i just have to assemble these damn rocket launchers and then I can prime

[brisk vapor]

Who can spot what's wrong with this paper

This channel should be a dead giveaway though

[pastel grotto]

Small ass submarine

[brisk vapor]

Not that

It's this

[mint merlin]

lmao

did they really?

[rare hornet]

I start with abaddon black, then I drybrush eshin grey, then dawnstone, then celestial grey

Just light layers of each which add up

[visual turret]

oh you go ALL the way up

[brisk vapor]

Afaik it's from a recent publishing from a paper called The People so yeah they did

[rare hornet]

Yes ma’am, got to get that edge right, it’s like a 15 minute process at most

[mint merlin]

Warhammer nerds are infiltrating the media
next step: politics

[brisk vapor]

Or the person who wrote this didn't know the difference between sci-fi and real world tanks

[rare hornet]

Who said it’s not an actual whirlwind?

[tough smelt]

UK military now employing Primaris Successors

[jaunty trail]

Very nice work!

[barren sphinx]

Daaang, good job!

[barren sphinx]

I tried fixing my tabbard that I uploaded the other day. I'll try to do a bit of highlighting with wraithbone later and that's as good as its getting for now haha

[median thistle]

The humvee is going the wrong way?

[median thistle]

Bitch I gave you a black Templar transfer sheet

[brisk vapor]

#40k-minis-and-armies message

[median thistle]

I know lol I felt the need to be a penis

I’m on 4 hours sleep my brain is slowly deflating

Anyway here’s my slow salvage of my land raider

[brisk vapor]

Hell yeah

[median thistle]

The second picture is what happens when you don’t understand how to paint with contrast paints when they first came out

So I have a lot to fix and a lot of dry brushing to do….

[barren sphinx]

I feel that man contrasts can be deceiving.

My first painting adventure was practically a whole combat patrols worth of tyrannid all in contrast.

[visual turret]

New Doggies!!!!!!!!

[rare hornet]

You didn’t give me enough then

[mint dove]

Can someone explain the difference between critical wounds,devastating wounds and mortal wounds?

[brisk vapor]

mortals go through all saves, devastating wounds are like mortals wounds but do not spread to other models and crits always wound with a possibility of saving them

[mint dove]

So if im playing orks and I get their +1 shots when tolling a 6. When it happens that shot is a critical wound plus another roll

[brisk vapor]

I am not 100% on how the ork dakka (?) rule works, but is it the one that says someting like [Dakka 5+] which would mean that you'd get another die to roll for hit on a 5+?

but that's not a wound

then you'd roll to wound normally for bot hits

but again I've no recollection how the ork specific weapon trait works

[median thistle]

There should be loads on that sword brother sheet

[white tangle]

So you know like space marine text, they have it on their shoulders guns and whatever. Does anyone know where you can find a font for the one they use on miniatures?

[median thistle]

A critical hit and critical wound is an unmodified roll of a 6

[brisk vapor]

it's mostly just a random mashup of different 'old english font' styles

it's not a real term afaik but that's how you will find similar results

or Gothic Font

[median thistle]

Tyranids I can only see being a bastard is the carapace, but I also didn’t even spray prime my land raider so it’s in a world of suck

[rare hornet]

I don’t have enough numpty

[median thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-intensifies-gif-14242619

[rare hornet]

I need the plain black crosses, I only have enough for 5 marines

[median thistle]

You not gonna use the funky ones with the skulls?

Or with red out lines

[rare hornet]

I’d prefer to keep them for other units

[median thistle]

You’re not gonna have enough units to use the funky ones on lol

[rare hornet]

I’d like the red outlines for heavy weapon teams and the skulls for close combat teams

[median thistle]

A bolt rifle is a heavy weapon though right

It weighs an amount

[rare hornet]

Do does a chainsword

[median thistle]

My melee focused devastator squad

This has turned into a good old fashion are you suggesting a coconut can migrate conversation isn’t it

[glossy hawk]

hey what other hobby games do you guys play besides 40k? I recently discovered turnip28 and am super interested in it

[rare hornet]

It honestly has

[rare hornet]

Kill team and Horus heresy

And titanicus

[median thistle]

I’ve got some bolt action, that has once again been ruined because I have no space, and I’ve got battle fleet gothic which technically isn’t 40k, kill team Horus heresy, D&D, I don’t really have any more space for anymore hobby games just yet

[plush swift]

i mostly do turnip28

the actual 40k game I havent had any interest in since they removed directional armor on tanks

[rare hornet]

At least Horus heresy has it

[plush swift]

Yep but I cant use my prefered armies in that iirc

[rare hornet]

What army is that?

[median thistle]

Well naturally corpse starch with his calm collected hatred is a chaos player

[mint dove]

No matter what

We all know orks is best

[rare hornet]

Guard

Guard is what you play when you don’t want people to have fun

[edgy jackal]

There are the solar aux

[plush swift]

i am not

[plush swift]

i play xenos

[pastel grotto]

Lots of xenos

Will you take the bugpill

Become tyrannobased

[lucid sorrel]

Wip

[devout lake]

Is this a good green for dark angels?

[glossy hawk]

would you mind sending pics of your regiment?

im curious to see how you painted them up

[plush swift]

I havent painted them yet, after I move I will though. I mostly just play it over TTS with aa few people

[glossy hawk]

ah

[mint dove]

If dey ain't green, dey aint for me

[barren sphinx]

Hive fleet gorgon 😆

[karmic coral]

It’s a little dark for the mid-tone, but it’s a good shadow-green to put layers on

[mint dove]

Gonna try my hand at green stuff and make a cigar for my Nob with the big kombi-weapon

[plush swift]

most would read that as black and not green

[mint dove]

I want to make it lit but still look ashy. So I'm gonna base it burnt umber>drybrush light brown>paint it black to where I want it to burn to>red>slightly less orange>stipple yellow, stiple dark gray>light stiple smoke gray

[jaunty trail]

wip salvager Theyn.

[dawn stream]

Rock and Stone!

[median thistle]

I think it’s a nice base green, abit dark for me personally but that’s cuz it’s hard to see the details but otherwise yeah

[wintry solstice]

WIP

[jaunty trail]

Still base decorations to do... but in case of painting i call him done... thoughts?

[dawn stream]

McDonald's Dwarf

The edge of the axe looks awesome

[jaunty trail]

Tbh its inverted angry marine scheme... It's the "League of Rage"

[barren sphinx]

Loving that Axe!

And angry dwarves? Cmon, that's dope

[jaunty trail]

@barren sphinx finally done..

[jaunty trail]

Thanks!

[jaunty trail]

It was a joke i made to my friends when Votann were announced... I said that i would make angry dwarfes if they get me the army box... My buddies were that badass to gift me that army box to my birthday... and a bet is a bet so i had to pay in that oath i made XD

[barren sphinx]

That's a solid group of friends! And now we get to see this creation cus of the bet.

[jaunty trail]

Yup.

And as i start playing them i will weave lore around them.. So this can be something also for others to have a laugh or just to follow up and spread the grudge XD

And when the main army is built and painted i eventually will start to make some funny/memeish kitbashes on some Votann minis..

[barren sphinx]

End up with your mini in one of those IdioticSynergy meme dubs eh?

That's when you know you've made it 😂

[mint dove]

So My grot army already has 2 mek guns with Kustom-mega cannons, and 2 squads of grot tanks with rokkit launchers,how should I equip my 3 kans?

I haven't played 10th ed so I don't know what's good

[dawn stream]

More dakka

[mint dove]

I have alot of explosives so I was either thinking of keeping the standard shoota for some anti infantry stuff or the scorcha for REALLY anti infantry

[solemn falcon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104466465740038245/1204236124604604416/IMG_20240206_032314.jpg?ex=65d3ff49&is=65c18a49&hm=9044e4d0848e9cf0648d19cee82f6bedcfa15fc2fa41818a2f9e191c0e60f725&

Dickhead prime

[tranquil kelp]

What model is that?

[hearty bear]

Looks to be a kitbash

[solemn falcon]

@tranquil kelp Tempestor prime, no kitbashing

[hearty bear]

Ohhh ok

[mint dove]

I don't know shot about color theory, if I paint his power klaw yellow is it gonna mesh well with all the red or stand out in a bad way

[dawn stream]

I'm excited

[grizzled jolt]

Another custom ogryn is done, also finished a few more shock troops.

[mint dove]

Base layer nearly done

I'm gonna have alot of fun painting all the gubbins and metal bits

[hollow goblet]

Managed to cop the disciples of Tzeentch vanguard for half price today whoooo

No idea what I'm gonna do with the Kairics and magister but they'll be good kitbash fodder if nothing else

[short pawn]

@mint dove Sorry to ping, but do you mind if i DM you a gundam question?

[signal plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-nu-gundam-gif-15905102500521289216

[lavish crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/ttsemperor-magnus-kitten-i-better-go-gif-10879826

IS THAT SHADOW SUN!!

[hollow goblet]

Anyone got any ideas for what I can do with a Magister on disc of tzeentch in 40k?

Figure I'll use my kairics as cultists or maybe kitbash them into "restored" Rubrics or something like that

No idea what to do about the magister but the disc and pose is pretty cool

Like I know I can just run him as an exalted sorcerer on disc but I already have far too many sorcerers

[hollow goblet]

Might just resell tbh I have other things I wanna get

[sterile grail]

feet 50% done

[faint lantern]

That feeling when you spill your paint

[midnight cairn]

What do you lot use to sand plastic? I generally use my knife to scrape away sprue bits, but it doesn't do too well on round surfaces. And whatever else I got is too rough, it leaves scratch marks.

[edgy jackal]

600, or 800 grit greenstuffworld sanding pads for mold lines.

Sometimes I use the knife first, then smooth over with the pad.

[barren sphinx]

Are those the little green and white triangles?

[karmic coral]

@plush swift Do you have your data on hand regarding primer for minis?

I've got a guy in my local group singing a hymn about Citadel Sprays, and I'm trying to help folks not feel compelled to spend $20 on a useless product

[lucid sorrel]

Finished

[stiff axle]

epic

[plush swift]

The real question is how simple of data do you want. Also I can give you the MSDS to citadel sprays, which GW doesnt make them, an auto manufactuer does

[karmic coral]

Do you have anything regarding application and scratch tests on the Citadel Sprays? And do you have any info on Stynlrez?

[edgy jackal]

https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/flexible-sanding-pads/1778-foam-sanding-pads-fine-grit-assortment-x20.html here's a multipack, but you can also get them separately.

[plush swift]

I did a scratch test for stynlrez, i dont have anything specifically for citadel as the maker for it is a generic auto paint manufacturer thats similar to rustoleum

[karmic coral]

Do you have a formula comparison, and potentially any translation for what each substance does?

[plush swift]

I do but I cant legally share the formula comparison due to trade secret acts, but in general all of the sprays will do similar things.

[karmic coral]

Basically, I just dropped the equivalent of "It's only priming if it's from the Prime region of France, otherwise it's just sparkling basecoat" explanation.

[plush swift]

they arent that much different between each other, they all share an almost identical BASF formula

[karmic coral]

And I have hobby-boiz at my throat for trying to get them unhooked off Citadel.

[plush swift]

get them into a discord call with me

[barren sphinx]

Thank you

[wintry solstice]

Yes space waifu

[wintry solstice]

Nah man feed the machine

[mint dove]

@short pawn what's up?

[visual shale]

May have screwed up the right eye a bit, but pretty happy with this one

[signal plover]

Debating on buying a can of wraithbone to undercoat with instead of grey seer on some models to get a different hue with some contrasts

[brisk vapor]

got started on the sleeves, will be lowering the saturation on the blue later. Not too fond of the bright blue

Will be giving it a white/light grey filter later, too saturated at the moment

[white tangle]

What lamp do you guys use when painting?

[plush swift]

I use photography lighting and a ring light thats for my camera.

[mint dove]

Kaptian GitGrabba base coat done

[white tangle]

Please tell me this is at least legible. There must be some strat for doing writing because this was a nightmare for a mid result.

[white tangle]

Is "photography lighting" like the white panels or is that something else? I used to use a ring light and still might go back to it. The issue im finding is i have to hold the light right up to the mini to be able to see properly. Because it was so close to my face and because of its shape, i used to hit my brush handle against it and it would get knocked out my hand.

[mint dove]

Forgot to do the hat skull and buttons

Pretty happy with how the cigar turned out

[plush swift]

one of the more legible ones ive seen

[plush swift]

yes kind of. I have one of those LED panels but most of mine are bulbs with reflector umbrellas, the ring light I have is attached to a boom arm that holds my camera too

[white tangle]

that is a really nice wood effect on the base.

[mint dove]

Thanks! Super easy to do

Take some plasticard and scribe on some wood panel effect, glue em down,prime them>pale sand drybrush>wyldwood contrast paint>baneblade brown drybrush>reikland fleshade wash

[white tangle]

Oh, i thought it came moulded with the base. Dude nice work!

[mint dove]

Thanks! I just didn't want my Warlord to have a stock standard base

[wary sonnet]

Just leaving this here.

Maybe I'll start a Custodes army.

Or get into AoS.

[steady quarry]

Hey hey painters! We have an (unofficial) Darktide themed painting comp going, would love to have ya! 😄
https://discord.gg/s25x3P4Y

[wary sonnet]

Not trying to be annoying, but is this link sanctioned?

[dawn stream]

That looks awesome! Great work!

[little ledge]

Lorenzial Amus
Lamenting Veteran of the Bleeding Chalice
Custom marine i did for fun

[steady quarry]

Absolutely

[barren sphinx]

Super legible, looks cool

[visual shale]

Hey, how are you doing the writing? I’m wanting to do some of that on my own minis but can’t figure out how for the life of me

[hidden hazel]

Wip of what I'm converting to Darktide theme lol

[plain granite]

Finally started on my DG heroes.

[dire iris]

personaly i would try to make the claw look a little more dirty but the shoulders keep a yellow highlight because its near the face

[mint dove]

Oh I plan on it! This was just the base coat

Like this is it after a bit more highlights and a wash

I'm going to do a little paint chipping effect on the claw but I don't wanna dirty him down too much

[sterile grail]

the eyes are on point well done

[sterile grail]

nice, im thinking of doing Moebian 21st themed regiment.

[short pawn]

I would give him all my plunder at his request no questions asked

[sterile grail]

its just photo, in real life it should look good. Nice highlight man, very crisp and clean

[errant fulcrum]

found a really good refrence to use for painting my solar auxilia when they come out. Can anyone point out what citadel paints they used here?

[paper inlet]

Metal armor looks like Iron Warriors

The gold maybe Liberator gold

[mint dove]

@short pawn also what was your gundam question?

[short pawn]

Oh yeah i was gonna ask you how to fix the discoloration that occurs when you snip nubs off

[eager slate]

I will make the ultramar pattern

[errant fulcrum]

can you get a read on the lenses?

[paper inlet]

Not fully but might have some suggestions and see if they fit. Kantor Blue might work

[errant fulcrum]

ight hit me with em

[plain granite]

Thank you! I've been practicing doing faces and eyes

[paper inlet]

Kantor blue

[errant fulcrum]

thanks

[worldly pawn]

its a shame they got rid of the list of paints used for their products

[eager slate]

The GrEatesT of ThEm AlL

[eager slate]

I wished there are a brighter and deeper color of blue

[mint dove]

@short pawn what I always did was sand them down, with 600 grit>1000>1500>2000

Smooths out the surface and gets a uniform color

But my recommendation is if you're gonna get into gunpla, get a good set of God hand nippers

[short pawn]

Jeez thats hefty

[hollow goblet]

You can always use a hobby knife with a blunt blade and scrape it away just be careful to hold it like almost vertically so you don't cut into it

Usually a pre-painting step also

[dawn stream]

Started on the Aeldari Combat Patrol with the Wraithlord

[mint dove]

I mean you don't gotta go THAT far but that's just how I did it

[summer sparrow]

Printing out a Knight Dominus, only got two print jobs left and ones almost finished, first one since I got my air brush so I'm excited

part of me wants to give the armor plates a metal flake enamel paint like model cars use

[visual turret]

I’m mad

As gonna steal the spare hand I have from my Dominus to use on the Castigator to give it’s sword arm more life

But the Dominus hand is a FORCED left arm, which means the gun and belt won’t work w/ it

Agony

[summer sparrow]

3D printing joy, I made my Castigator have a Right handed gun by mirroring all the parts before printing

[visual turret]

I don’t own a printer lol

And all I want is a hand, so it can hold a sword. Maybe a longer sword too

[summer sparrow]

that's too bad, cause you can also get hands to print for Knights

[visual turret]

Because IMO the castigator’s blade is too short

I have some pose ideas

[summer sparrow]

if it was longer it might trick you into thinking it's actually good at melee and it isn't

it's power sword has the same stats as the Acheron's Chain blades

[visual turret]

First idea - politely nicking this…

Second idea - remaking this

Hell, maybe the Castigator is the one I finally magnetise

Doing my part here 🫡

[prisma quartz]

finally decided on a palette for my army base deco is temporary until i can buy in actual decorations LMAO just slapped some paint on there for now

[hollow goblet]

Anyone got any experience with pigments/coloured flake?

https://www.colourobsession.com.au/super-chameleon/teal-purple-flake

Thinking of grabbing this and some colourshift pigment for my bases but not sure if its gonna have the effect I'm after

[hollow goblet]

Nice to see I'm not the only one struggling to get those fuckers to sit properly on normal bases lmao

[prisma quartz]

they for sure are hard to sit on their bases their poses are so exxagerated a lot of mine just end up totally hanging over the edges lmao

[hollow goblet]

I ended up glueing washers/nuts to their bases and just weighing them down

[prisma quartz]

its weird bc i havent collected warhammer in a while and i was used to older style hormagaunts which had those stupid slits in the bases they attached to and were insanely easy to accidentally break off but at least they were stable

actually a good idea probably should weigh them down somehow

[hollow goblet]

I'm gonna try and make them look like they're leaping out of tall grass so hopefully end result works but yeah awkward asf sculpt

[prisma quartz]

their poses are neat asf but they just dont work with the bases

i also just got done making leapers and they are horrible to put on bases even when the bases have specific areas to put them. bc forcing them onto the base when theyre the single sharpest unit in the world is . ouch

tthe pain of a tyranid collector : they are so sharp

[hollow goblet]

Real talk the accursed cultists and neurolictor have both drawn blood from me before

[prisma quartz]

building my leaper drew blood, slipped fitting one of the big claws and cut right under my fingernail

little spoken about warhammer building woes : the sharp ones lmao

[hollow goblet]

Building most chaos factions fuels khorne lmao

[prisma quartz]

lmao true, havent built chaos in YEARS however, mostly just helped my brother make them in like. early 2000s ish when they werent as pointy as they are now lmao

[white tangle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBgOFsHT1Q&t=318s The one i did was my first go and without a tutorial. After a traumatizing experience i watched this guy and found out i basically did none of the tricks you are supossed to do. (This guy is an ex eavy metal painter and he has some very good tutorials. But he did get shut down by GW 😦 )

[prisma quartz]

good lord that guys control

my shaky hands could never

[brisk vapor]

Darren still works at GW

[prisma quartz]

also, how long do yall take to finish a paintjob on average? just asking bc i need to determine if im horrendously slow or about normal im just dreading how long painting my units will take

[brisk vapor]

but as a lead miniature designer instead of eavy metal painter

[white tangle]

Yeah but didnt his youtube get kaput by gw?

[brisk vapor]

I can't recall the details, but I think it was more so a slight pressure by the higherups to not continue doing it rather than just outright telling him to stop and delete the channel. The videos stayed up like two years after the original shut down was supposed to happen

[white tangle]

I still have an issue with time when painting. If i was to sweat out a space marine for example, it would take me around 4-5 days. But when i paint, i slow down a lot. Im still trying to get faster.

[prisma quartz]

alright then im not insane for taking about 4 hours on one unit earlier, was without breaks so eh

definitely gonna take me a whiiile to get them all painted

im by no means great at painting either but ho well they look presentable

[brisk vapor]

4 hours for a full unit is pretty damn fast tbh

[prisma quartz]

i could have taken longer and ill probably go back for cleanup so i dont think its even donw

done*

i am dreading painting my biovore i know im gonna spend days on that thing

[brisk vapor]

it's not rare for me to take two months on a single larger model

for one human sized model that I want to paint to a slightly better standard will probably take around a week

[prisma quartz]

if i ever reach the day where i choose to buy a titan thats when ill never be heard from again

absolutely not at all anytime soon tho my painting skills are too doodoo and im braindead on game rules

[brisk vapor]

I need more shelf space before I can buy a titan tbh

I will some day for sure

[prisma quartz]

ill definitely also some day get one but not yet i gotta be real good at painting before i do that

[white tangle]

When i started painting, my goal was to paint a dreadnought. Im getting closer to that goal

[prisma quartz]

i have a dreadnought and im ssaving it to paint it when im better at painting too

they were my favourite as a small child and now i have my own

[brisk vapor]

I'm only now starting to feel confident enough for one, after 7 years of continuous painting and far longer in the hobby

[prisma quartz]

im mostly a beginner (as in i only painted as a kid and my attempts are shameful at best)

mostly i keep realising im lacking the colours i need and it stops me

i need light reds to add highlights to my nids carapaces because shading i ggot on LOCK but no highlights

[white tangle]

ive been painting for around a year and a half and have been trying to mimic the eavy metal style on nearly all of my minis. I really need to learn things like layering

Also dont be afraid to mix colours. Ive been scared of mixing for a while but its definitely worth it.

[edgy jackal]

About lighting, I use this: https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/loeplamp-met-led-verlichting-en-tafelklem-vergrootglas-met-verlichting-met-afstandsbediening-en-verlengde-armen-borduren-loep-vergrootglas-diamond-painting-accesoires-leesloep/9300000134821036/?Referrer=ADVNLGOO002049-S--9300000134821036&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA8YyuBhBSEiwA5R3-E_6rBWZZI0h1jWeVB8JsGzWpkDdPHU0doeVsLkYfnP1m9F_TvcsVdBoCtnYQAvD_BwE

[sterile grail]

I 100% recommend Godhand stuffs. Sanding, nippers, even brush, its superb quality.

[sterile grail]

its much better to take your time painting minis and not rush things. You learn how to paint quality along the way. Which i am still learning. Hopefully one day be as good as you.

[brisk vapor]

True enough, practice is the key

[white tangle]

Are the cadian guardsman backpacks moulded onto their backs or can they be left off?

[brisk vapor]

I've not built them myself but iirc they're separate from what I remember from the sprues I saw

check the GW site and look at the sprues for the kit

[short pawn]

Separate

You'll just have a rectangular peg left on their back that you might want to remove

[sterile grail]

some is, some dont

[plush swift]

no video can teach you, its entirely practice and brush control. You just have to keep on doing it]

[lavish crescent]

KITTENS HEART MUST BE AVENGED!!

[visual turret]

Why does he look like he's from 2009 League of Legends

I really wanna find a source of the artwork so I can see who cmade it but

alas

only get one result on tineye

[visual shale]

@plush swift Thank you, I shall keep these in mind

[plush swift]

One of the problems with tutorials like that one is that the person has such a high level of experience they're trying to explain something to people to have none and no brush control, which he forgets. It's a very common issue with hobby tutorials and it's one of the reasons why you say stick to canvas artist tutorials for most things because they tend to remove the aspect of skill from them and focus on the basics of how to do something like a runsel method or something. I've been an art teacher for a very long time at this point

So remember it's not always you if you're failing at something, It's your teacher that failed you and taught you things that are out of your skill level

That being said, a pen is so much easier than brush to do any lettering. Get something like a micron and it will make the process so much quicker

[visual turret]

xkcd comic about this

Average Familiarity

[plush swift]

It's really true... And it also works the other way too, A lot of people overestimate people's skill if they don't know anything about the field

For instance people call me an expert all the time, I've met actual experts I'm far from being one

[visual turret]

I was in a GW earlier today and he was teaching some guy painting a sentinel that the best way to do chipping, rather than silver brushstrokes (which would look like it's just missed brushstrokes), was using a pencil. This was, like, a khaki Sentinel paint

and it worked pretty well from what I saw over their shoulders

[plush swift]

That's an old school scale modelers trick, The problem is it doesn't adhere so you have to put a varnish over it, and it has to be a spray on because a brush-on will remove it

I used to use homemade oil pastels to do similar things

Back in the days when I used to make metallic oil pastels that is

That was like 15 years ago or something like that

Yes I'm very old

[visual turret]

nahhhh mate just means you've got experience

[plush swift]

I can both have experience and be old

[visual shale]

Yeah, I get that. Really I’m just trying to find what all I can use for the writing, and honestly, watching a video on how to do it can’t really hurt. Sure, I may not get all the information I need and it may not be the most helpful, but I find watching tutorials to be helpful nonetheless. It teaches me what I need (usually at least) and some techniques that I could try later on

That being said, I do want to try using a pen for it, but am unsure what kind of pen would be best. Right now all I have are these bulky ballpoints for classes, and those didn’t work very well

[plush swift]

Micron is a brand, very reliable, cheap enough, and the exact type you want. Its a very good brand too just as a whole. Most artists use them over everything else for a reason. They are like $3 a pen or a 10 pack for like $15~

Tutorials are hit or miss, some can cause problems, some can help.

Its always important to remember thats THEIR process and not the only process

there is no correct process for doing things

[visual shale]

I’ll go and check Walmart when I get chance, I think I remember seeing some once. Thank you for the advice

[plush swift]

they are a beige color and easy to miss. Most newer artists skip them because they look like a cheap off brand thing. But they are some of the best pens on the market... which annoys me but thats a major rant about the art industry as a whole and the worsening of products due to there being no money in it

[hoary ermine]

NEDERLANDER

[visual shale]

Oof… I’ll keep a good eye out when I go

[visual turret]

I've found plenty of joy out of painting things my own way. I get great, even coats w/ little signs of brushstroking using drybrushing as my main blocking in, and the same w/ highlighting (I hate edging panels, it's so tedious and I can never get the right width)

[dawn stream]

WIP Ulthwe Wraithlord

[plush swift]

black ends mean black, colors ends mean its a color

I know its obvious but its a question that gets asked a lot

since its rare to see colored fine liners

(i use them to paint eyes)

[plush swift]

dry brushing is just brute force edge highlights

think of it like that

[visual turret]

I much prefer it

[plush swift]

yep, some tutorial makers look down on dry brushing

which is another problem

ALL techniques are valid

Name a technique, i can find a famous painting revered as a masterpeice that uses it

[dawn stream]

@plush swift

This purple is amazing. I already love it

[plush swift]

how does it compare to mini paints?

[dawn stream]

I didn't have a purple but the white and red I use now are much better

[plush swift]

which red?

[dawn stream]

Pyrrole

[visual turret]

WIP

[dawn stream]

Very nice vivid greens

[visual turret]

Thanks, primed black then a layer of white scar. An attempt at biel-tan green to colour it but I botched that so warpstone glow came to the rescue

[plush swift]

great pigment, just be careful as tine strength is ungodly high

[zenith monolith]

would try to ask what do you guys think about the colour but damn my camera can't get it right xD (lighting do be kinda shit)

but anyways, I have a bit of a question

I need a paint of the bronze/copper bits but last one I used (balthasar gold) wasn't quite to my liking, any ideas?

[dawn stream]

Needs transfers and a few touch ups

[short pawn]

Damn GW's made to order process is insane. I ordered my product 144 days ago and i dont even know whats going on with it because they don't tell you anything till its delivered

[kind oracle]

New Terminator for the Deathwatch

[white tangle]

Now that I have the finished result I think I like it a bit more happy with it.

[plush swift]

I have a lot of suggestions, but none of them are GW paints, weirdly enough most are inks

[plush swift]

3/10 on the writing

This is 3 points higher than the average, so feel accomplished I felt the need to give it a number grade

yes, that is a compliment coming from me

[zenith monolith]

works fine enough for me

do not care for using specifically gw paints

[plush swift]

The best copper is from a company called Lascaux, its expensive and I dont really recommend it to most people due to it being an actual copper pigment, Modern masters also does one too, but both of these tarnish over time. Both work well as a hobby paint.

Bronze I really like golden high flow iridescent bronze(fine) a lot, its mica based so its not as finicky.
Scale 75 is ok, but they dont survive ASTM durability or longevitity tests so if you're fine with a paint that cracks after a few years(5-10 on average), those are an option(no varnish doesnt fix this, varnish doesnt solve most things)

[zenith monolith]

I see, thank you very much, appreciate the recommendations

[severe sierra]

When will GW sell new bloodletter models that has the style of the old bloodletter-artwork? Please

(it would then result in future 40k-games from then on having cool looking bloodletters if khorne daemons are present)

[signal plover]

I fucking love buying warhammer

[barren sphinx]

They put something in the plastic I swear lol it's so addicting

[lavish crescent]

Same...

Just got the bretonnia boxset

[severe sierra]

maybe it's the glue.. you buy new models, so u can glue them, so u can sniff that glue again

[signal plover]

I scroll on ebay like two hours a day just hoarding shit man I live for it

[lavish crescent]

Fucking mood!!

I HAVE SOO MANY PROJECTS

[jade swift]

me too

i just scroll

"oh this is such a great deal maybe ill start that army" then i pinch myself to wake up from that dream

[visual turret]

Old man Yaoi

[dusk hill]

I been 3d printing salamanders, I made He'stan but gave him dragonslayer instead of the spear

[mint dove]

Whats a good recipie for ork scars?

[short pawn]

Could do a darker version of your lip recipe?

[dawn stream]

Storm Guardians

Also, transfers on the Wraithlord

[prisma quartz]

question for yall what brushes do you guys go for usually? i just ordered some from rosemary and co since they were reccomended but hey, always looking tto expand my arsenal of tools if you guys have any other reccs

also finally bought a wet palette because heartbroken going downstairs and forgetting i had paint out and it went solid

[hollow goblet]

Can't offer advice on quality brushes but I'll mention that it's a good idea to have a second set of cheaper brushes for drybrushing (makeup brushes work super well for this) BC drybrushing tends to be pretty rough on your brushes

Might just be a me thing tho a lot of my painting style involves a lot of heavy drybrushing

[prisma quartz]

oh yeah i got a ton of cheap brushes i use for that kinda think

thing*

got some shiddy makeup and nail art brushes i use for that

i don't drybrush as much though tbh but whenever i start collecting more space wolves ill need it

[sterile grail]

Agrax earthshade gave my cadian a glossy finish

damn

wasnt looking for that at all

[mint dove]

@hollow goblet watcha thinka me badrukk proxy?

[simple thorn]

Methinks that's one flash boss

[true path]

Latest oldhammer haul and on Friday I'm buying a lot of warriors of chaos

Including rare forge world halberds for chaos warriors.

[mint dove]

I was thinking about drawing a treasure map like this on his tabbard but I don't know If that would be jumping the shark

[true path]

Do it
Orks are perfect for freehand practice.

[hollow goblet]

V nice I like the colour on the feathers

[mint dove]

Pretty happy with this base for my weirdboy

[sterile grail]

body 90% done

[prisma quartz]

what if we were 2 unfinished tyranids and we kissed

[lavish crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[white tangle]

is Abaddon black known for being a bit iffy?

[brisk vapor]

Not that I recall

[prisma quartz]

in my experience its fine im just not a fan of working with solid pitch blacks like that

[rare hornet]

Yeah you’ll have to do some form of highlighting on abaddon black

[white tangle]

Which way do you think I glue the head? The issue is the fully white shoulder came out kinda meh

Man, the photos always come out so much worse when i post them on discord. 😦

[midnight cairn]

It has arrived! 😁

[sterile grail]

2nd

[brisk vapor]

1st

[rare hornet]

I agree with 1st

[prisma quartz]

i also agree with 1st

took some advice on mixing my paints and my highlights on the carapace are looking a loooot nicer now

[barren verge]

Ulgo not see tiny Ogryn in long time

[agile junco]

almost done with my void dragon

[barren verge]

Looks like heretic

[signal plover]

Damn how much?

[white tangle]

Now just the base, thx for the help with decision. 🙂

[true path]

Archie was 60, old world haul will be a few hundo, cdn

[barren sphinx]

That is so nice, the edge highlighting goes hard on that black armor. What size and kind of brush do you use?

[signal plover]

Getting that Archie for under 100 is a great deal if it’s authentic

[true path]

yep, more than I'd like to pay, but still a great deal and he'll make a perfect lord on foot in both aos and tow

[signal plover]

Staring at this and drooling

[true path]

Sounds like he's a reseller, if it's been up for more than 3 weeks I'd offer 70, cash in hand, pickup.

[signal plover]

I don’t think I’m gonna drive to another state for this one chief

Most of the archaon on horse go for 75-100 these days

[true path]

that's quite fair, yeah.
I have used "hey I have to drive two hours to pick up, you mind coming down another $30 for gas?" as a good bargaining chip. Works well when someone has it up for a long time and wants it gone.

but a new in box model, someone's probably fine waiting for that to go.

[signal plover]

It’s so rare to have an authentic one with the shrink on that’s in metal

[hollow yoke]

I’ve acquired sable brushes

[true path]

yeah it would definitely be worth more in that state but it would be a shame to not paint it and bring it to the table and share it.
The good side is that archaon is pewter up until his latest age of sigmar model. So you can search for already built and painted ones and if you really want to paint it, you can use very harsh strippers to get every fleck of paint off.

[signal plover]

Yea just would have to give it the classic nail polish remover bath

[white tangle]

GW small layer for most of it and a rosemary and co sable brush size 1 for the rest. Also thanks!

[rare hornet]

Can’t do my intercessors at the moment so time to work on my blade guard I sprayed up before winter

[barren sphinx]

What white paints are you guys using? Last 2 minis posted in here have such smooth coats and I wanna blame my paint instead of my skill issues 😅😂

[plush swift]

golden high flow titanium white

[barren sphinx]

Thank you, Searching for stores with it now. Any special considerations for it? You seem to be up on some real high level stuff

[plush swift]

think of it as an ink, so dont add water to it

[plush swift]

if US based, Jerry's artarama and Dick blick have it, amazon also carries it shipped from both those stores. for UK/EU jacksons generally covers it

most art stores should carry 30ml bottles

[barren sphinx]

Sweet! Thanks again!

[past flint]

Do you guys put your minis together before you paint them?

I put together my ENTIRE mechanicus army before I primed them (big mistake)

[barren sphinx]

I did that with My templars combat patrol lol it's a good opportunity to practice brush control. Some people swear by it though, personal preference I'd say

[dawn stream]

If you have a Michael's nearby, that's where I buy mine

[dawn stream]

It depends on the unit pose. If it's an open pose without a bunch of nooks and crannies, I full assemble. If not, like any model with a two handed grip on a gun, I sub assembly

[rare hornet]

Where possible I try to keep them in sub assemblies, in the case where you don’t do that it’s still possible to paint, but generally a slight faf

[past flint]

i fully assembled belissarius cawl without a drop of primer or paint :)

[dawn stream]

Oof

Big models are best sub assembled

[lucid sorrel]

Mostly i paint before assemble