40k-minis-and-armies

[plush swift]

basically, I'm a paint nerd who knows more about paint chemistry and will argue about what color a traffic light is

[cursive gyro]

First of all

Nerd

[plush swift]

facts

[cursive gyro]

Second of all
I genuinely think that is a really interesting side of art conservation and I love seeing the backstage of all art museum

However
We talking about gigangtic nerds painting space orks, blue cow communist, and Gorilla in blue suit of armors

Speaking of which

Making progress

[plush swift]

I'm still going to tell people the correct information so they know better not to listen to a community of people who think non-toxic means edible, when lead and arsenic paints are legally non-toxic when put into an acrylic binder

[plush swift]

we dont have enough ork posts here

[cursive gyro]

I think I am the biggest ork poster in this Channel

[plush swift]

knights are coming a long

[cursive gyro]

Rarely Seen any, and I am usually the one posting 'em

Feeling proud of meself

[cursive gyro]

Bruh I'm over here making straight Lines and you is over there integrating functioning light to your knight

[cursive gyro]

That's it, I'm grouping up a WAAGH to get your ass

[plush swift]

I did mention I had a doctorate in art so everything I do is wildly extra, right?

[cursive gyro]

[plush swift]

sounds fun

I even milled out metal barrels for the guns on the knights because I wanted more flair

[cursive gyro]

Anyway, good night and have with your extra fancy knight

[plush swift]

my armigers also have leds...

I umm... dont know restraint

that orange tone? yeah thats an extinct pigment known as PO49

literally being stupid with this entire project

but im having fun

[woeful vale]

I think I came in here at the right time. This is amazing. One of my uncles is an illustrator and in mine and my family's possession are some oil paintings that he did 30-40 years ago. fantasy/sci-fi kind of stuff, a lot of his work served as magazine covers. As I type this from my basement office, I'm reminded I should probably hook up my dehumidifier for the season

[plush swift]

Yes, you should

[woeful vale]

I may pick your brain on that someday, but for now I'll just monitor all the mini-paint talk and be a good sponge

[plush swift]

feel free, I do actually have some mini painting content that uses my background as a base

its very long format and very boring

to me at least

most of it is me complaining about companies scaming you all

I still will never forgive scalecolor for selling ultramarine blue as fluo and claiming that its fluorescent in certain situations when its only fluo if you mix fluo into it

and then the blue will block off UV interaction so the glow effect is heavily diminished to the point its barely there

I hate hobby companies...

preying on the ignorant to make them seem like they are these gods gift to art

when its mostly snake oil

[mental jolt]

You might enjoy the naming of these then.

[plush swift]

oh and those paints are fucking dogwater too... I tried them and they are insanely low pigmentation, its mostly just chemical thickener being used to deceive the hobby community

they need to list the cobalt blue as hue

like, legally too

[mental jolt]

I like them, they behave like I want them to.

[plush swift]

its false marketing for one

[mental jolt]

I don't get why they add violet pigments in the blue though, but oh well

[plush swift]

well PV15 specifically is a weird one

let me grab my pv15 stash and show you what it is

[mental jolt]

Ultramarine blue would be best off with only ultramarine blue pigment, no? Or is it not very lightfast or opaque?

[plush swift]

neither are opaque pigments

[mental jolt]

Yeah, then idk. Cheaper maybe?

[plush swift]

if those are opaque, then they have tons of filler

PV15 is a high priced pigment

[mental jolt]

They're not super opaque

Then just use the blue pigment in the blue colour?

In the blue paint rather.

[plush swift]

well the PV15 is very light

and when you blend them you do get a lighter blue

but only in small doeses

[mental jolt]

But they have a darker ultramarine as well, with the same pigments

[plush swift]

its a sign however thats a red shade ultramarine blue

[plush swift]

that creates more questions

thats ultramarine blue and violet

[mental jolt]

Third from the bottom on the right side is gorgeous

[plush swift]

some versions are hard to get and scalecolor is actually banned from purchasing pigments with some of the larger chemical suppliers

[mental jolt]

They are? O.o

[plush swift]

yeah

long story I cant get fully into, but they've been caught doing and saying very sketchy things

[mental jolt]

Sadly doesn't surprise me

[plush swift]

one of the things they said was a very nasty implication towards a pigment manufactuer and claiming they made all of their own pigments

which, they dont

[mental jolt]

Well no, obviously, they just make their own goo to mix with pigments

Or mix their own goo, probably

[mental jolt]

I'd be very surprised if there are more than a handful of manufacturers of pigments

[plush swift]

I mean they just use a vast basic 10% solids count polyvinyl alcohol emulsion

[mental jolt]

Whatever it is the paint is nice to work with :>

[plush swift]

there are 6 large ones, 20 small ones, 400~ indepentants like myself and then a few thousand hobbiests

[mental jolt]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

I'd love to get real artist colours, but they're so expensive ;-;

[plush swift]

brazil, right?

I am spacing out on the country

[mental jolt]

Sweden

[plush swift]

thats it

yeah, I can see what I can do about that in sweden actually

[mental jolt]

I would say close, but uh, it's pretty far.

[plush swift]

there are 3 countries where paint is very expensive due to import fees and no local production

sweden, brazil, new zealand

[mental jolt]

Not sure Sweden is it since internal market in the eu

[plush swift]

its the shipping costs

[mental jolt]

Sure, but bulk shipping shouldn't add more than me ordering from Germany or France or (previously) UK.

[plush swift]

I'll have to look into the sweden thing more, unless im confusing it with norway again

which, I actually do a lot

[leaden leaf]

Thanks. I have zero painting experience so I don't want to commit any large amount of money to the hobby and was wondering if I could "recycle" a sacrifice model in the name of practice.

[mental jolt]

Probably, Norway isn't in the EU, so it could be a bit different

[plush swift]

yes you can, use something like LA's totally awesome to do it

[plush swift]

probably thinking of norway. I have no idea why I constantly confuse those two

their flags arent even similar

[mental jolt]

At least it's not confusing Sweden with Switzerland

[plush swift]

no, but I do keep thinking ikea is from there

[mental jolt]

heh

[plush swift]

Im very bad with geography

VERY bad

[mental jolt]

Well, getting better paints is a long term project, for now I'll just continue having fun painting.

[plush swift]

thats all that matters

I can show you what my paints are like

but getting into the professional grade side of things is a learning experience

and honestly throws a lot of what you know on its head about painting

[mental jolt]

If I do swap I'll go for something like golden fluid or schminke hb

I'd love something with the vibrance of oils, but they're a bit of a pain to work with.

[plush swift]

that will be very hard with acrylics honestly

golden and schminke are both good for that though

[mental jolt]

Yeah, I know. I'm hoping they make some magical breakthrough before I need to replace my paints again. (Read: before I have more money set aside to spend on paint.)

[plush swift]

i wish, unfortunatelty there is one thing standing in their way and thats chemistry

[mental jolt]

Yeah, I figured.
Also looking for a goldilocks metallic. Been interested in the darkstar stuff (molten metal I believe) but finding someone who carries it has been a pain. Fortunately my scale75s should still be good if I shake them a bunch.

[plush swift]

lascaux

or tuner acryligouache, both are good

[mental jolt]

I'll have a look, cheers.

[plush swift]

lascaux I would avoid for most people... but its really good

like really good

[mental jolt]

Idk, the finish looks a bit rough to me. Could be the pictures/surface though. I'm sure the paint itself is excellent.

[plush swift]

its actually smooth, its looks rough because its metal pigment

problem with it is that it can expire quiet quickly

[mental jolt]

I'll probably stick with model paints, that's where I feel hobby paints perform better.
Exception might be some of the goldleafing paints, haven't had a chance to try them out.

[plush swift]

thats what lascaux are

[mental jolt]

I'll have to look at them being used somewhere then, the photos on the website were not amazing.

[plush swift]

the professional grade metallics do technically out perform hobby metallics, the issue is there are very few brands that make them

[mental jolt]

I don't care about technically, I just want it to look pretty

[plush swift]

i screwed up slightly with it in that picture

[mental jolt]

Yeah, it has that pitted texture a lot of metallics get

[plush swift]

yep, thats how real metal metallics work

mica is the uber smooth one but no brand does them correctly because they all have that rainbow glitter effect

with golds specifically

the silvers for lascaux arent pitted looking, just the gold is, which is what im after

[mental jolt]

Yeah, but I can get at least very similar results, if not better, with hobby metallics

[plush swift]

i havent gotten anything better personally

I have scale 75 and darkstar here, they dont reflect correctly nor do they apply as easily, above is one coat

and that was thinned by roughly 50%

in still looking for a gold that looks gold and is smooth

unforunately, even gold electroplating looks like the picture above

when on plastic

[mental jolt]

There's no gold version of the molotow chrome?

It'll be a polished look, but could work

[plush swift]

Nothing that is durable that can be varnished

I can do one, but the second you breathe on it it loses all luster

[mental jolt]

Fair

Actual gold leafing? Or with the imitation foil

Also, supposedly you can polish the darkstar ones

[plush swift]

you cant

its acrylic and rubs off easily

i tried it, they overloaded the binder to it will flake off at some point too

like, if you thin them its a death sentence for them

im actually talking to the company about how to prove their paint as they have no idea how bad flaking mica is for health

[mental jolt]

I believe they took an existing paint and repackaged it for minis

But I haven't found the og yet

[plush swift]

they probably did, the conversations ive had with them sort of allude to that

most mini companies do this

its what army painter does

[mental jolt]

Don't the faq or about me on their webpage say as much?

[plush swift]

I know one company, not saying which, takes professional grade stuff, golden high flow medium, then cuts the actual paint down by 70% with the medium and markets it as an airbrush paint

[plush swift]

i dont think they do

they dont but they do have a ton of stock photos on their webpage and claim its their paint

oof

thats not a good sign

no paint company worth their salt will say "you can use tap water"

hell vallejo says not to use tap water

[mental jolt]

No, they only had the bit about the paint being buffable. The other must've been an interview or something

[plush swift]

the buffable is a marketing bullshit again

its "you can rub this with a soft cloth to clean off the residue that comes from our paints"

"because we use a gloss medium"

[mental jolt]

Nice

[agile vault]

I was tryna find my csm and uh

I instead found my pile of shame

A whole fucking Crawler

[edgy jackal]

What's your opinion on GSW's "true metallic" line? Probably not the quality you're looking for.

[plush swift]

this line is actually factually wrong as they contain zinc, which can actually lead to deal due to how it you know... burns your skin and if swallows can burn your insides

the water can also not be dumped down the sink

[edgy jackal]

I'll be honest, I don't expect them to be actual pure copper/gold dust, or for them to be edible. My question was more about whether you have an opinion on them as a paint (colour, ease of use, longevity) rather than their safety/authenticity.

I like their combination with the gsw oxydiser (which have to be sealed afterwards, of course).

Also, @plush swift , golden high flow for yellows? If I want a different shade, do I need to mix it with another high flow, or what?

[plush swift]

I mean the pigment is similar to what I use

I just use a finer grind, I am also not 100% on what metal they use, I just assume they purchase it from one company I know

[plush swift]

You can use highflows to thin down paint, so no

[lavish crescent]

Yalls hobby is more paint mixing then actually painting??

[plush swift]

No, mixing also doesnt take long

[potent depot]

Not necessarily minis but still neat lol

[wary sonnet]

That's some heretical shit right there.

[dark violet]

Give me the sororita and skitarii

And tell me where you got them from

[lavish crescent]

[plush swift]

they are japan imports. I bought the entire set two years ago for $20~, now they are $20+ each

oh shit, i found a few of them for dirt cheap just now

[plain granite]

They also have the second wave of the chibi ones for sale on GW's site atm too.

[plush swift]

I don't like those as much, but I'll probably buy the.

[hearty bear]

Series 2 models don’t look great

[plain granite]

I like the beaky boi one but that's the only series 2 one I like.

[midnight locust]

Any suggestions on keep dry brushes from flaring out? Should I cut the bristles down?

[lavish crescent]

That's even better brother, means you can get a bigger area

Get makeup brushes if you want detail dry brushing

Amazon is the best place to get bulk makeup brushes

[midnight locust]

Mm okay. I’ve noticed for dry brushing my tanks it’s good but for my guard it’s… difficult

[lavish crescent]

Yeah, look at getting hold of makeup brushes for dry brushing

Best things I brought

[midnight locust]

I’m guessing they’re the rounded end kind?

[jagged sparrow]

Finally got a blade effect I was happy with

[plush swift]

what kind of brushes are they?

specifically

[midnight locust]

Just some really crappy 3 dollar flatbrushes

[plush swift]

yeah those will curl, no point in saving them

[midnight locust]

Figured as much, just wanted to verify before shrugging it off

[plush swift]

if you need need to save a brush like that though, boil some water, let the brushes soak in it for a few seconds, then dip them in gum arabic

[midnight locust]

Gotcha

Also camo pattern wise, do people recommend going diagonally (45 degrees) across a vehicle, front to back at a slight angle (More like 60 degrees) or flatter from left to right (closer to 30 degrees)?

[signal plover]

put them in the jar

[plush swift]

depends on the style of camo, but ultimately it is entirely what you think looks good

[midnight locust]

Fair

[sterile grail]

The cosmic arm

[midnight locust]

Impressive!

[sterile grail]

I plan to paint eldar cosmic scheme. So i want to test with a spare arm i have left lol. But cosmic space marine does sound cool.

[plush swift]

look at you, 5 months ago you were failing to paint straight lines and screwing up washes, now you're doing free hand that doesnt look like a kindergartener did it. congrats

[tawny wedge]

One more obliterator and a venomcrawler to go for 500 points of these guys!

[celest zealot]

Nice!!

Cleaned forge world bits

Thallaxii and a thanatar calix automata

[cursive gyro]

I have made, what I will humbly preclaim to be
The orkiest mini

Because I have fucked the making off it, I cannot unglue the part I fucked up because it was too late when I discovered I fucked up

So like, I had to makeshift things into place, do some instentanious kitbashing to make it work and somehow it looks pretty good and the result fit together

Still a WIP but

[mild canyon]

A kitbash between the cadia box the Horus herecy age og darkness box and the old astra militarum HW squad, my friend is playing Tyranids so I thought why not make my boys look like they are a special unit me t to gent of the kritters.

[obsidian tapir]

I think that looks pretty cool

[sweet sinew]

My move is complete so now I have set up my little men

Horus Heresy shelf may look barren but I just bought the 20 pack of HH era space marines

[wind ermine]

Would this count as a kit bash? Thought the invictor looked a bit bland for space wolves so slapped some dread bits onto it.

[glossy hawk]

thin your paints friend

and any modification to a model is a kitbash

[wind ermine]

I've been trying but cant find a good in-between

[glossy hawk]

1:1

[wind ermine]

I mean I did with the stuff I added, you see the invictor was one of my first models so the stuff I added was thinned (to the best of my ability)

[naive umbra]

Kitbashed a connector between my Riptide Smart Missile pods using a spare gun drone connector and an antenna. The normal connector they want you to use is a lot thinner so doesn't work as well for magnetising as well as doubling as other wargear which I want to be able to model. Happy with how it turned out!

Looks pretty sweet mounted now

[plush swift]

what paints are you using?

I can tell you exact ratios the binder the company uses can support

[plush swift]

thats weirdly enough, not thin enough

most painters use 3:1. I dont thin personally

[glossy hawk]

this is what it’s gotten me

[plush swift]

no point for me because I use inks and high grade paints that dont leave brush strokes

[glossy hawk]

wrong image, that was the old one

[plush swift]

the majority of this was done with unthinned heavy bodied acrylics to prove a point

the metallics I need to fix

thats a custom paint that didnt turn out right after I applied it

its immitation gold leaf in a nitrocellulose and acrylic binder

too much moisture got into it

would not recommend using heavy bodied btw, getting smooth with them is a tedious nightmare

[naive umbra]

The right 2 don't seem half bad, but the left definitely went claggy

[sterile grail]

I'm planning to buy a high quality compact airbrush. However I have never used one before and don't know where to start. Is there any important advice I need to know when using one? eg: maintenance, clogging, mistakes you guys made while using it

[plush swift]

what do you mean by compact?

like one of those battery powered hand ones?

[plush swift]

yeah thats just a super thin coat

[lean snow]

Bruther how did you get such nice rust streaks

[plush swift]

transoxides

thats what they are called, its transparent iron oxide

most of the acrylics are in there

if you cant tell, I dont use cheap paint. I only use good paint

[sterile grail]

most likely a small air compressor

[plush swift]

honestly, most of the cheaper ones do perfectly fine, the "stealth" ones from iwata I find just are too weak at times, and having a more traditional one while taking up more space, is just better in most cases plus the tank does help with the life of the compressor

[deft fable]

After 2 months break

[sterile grail]

do you have any advice so that i can avoid costly mistakes when painting?

airbrushing*

[plush swift]

I have a lot yeah, generally speaking most of it is "most of the information out there isn't great" and the only real airbrush paints that work are from professional brands like createx.

Clean the airbrush thoroughly, Don't use harsh solvents because it will melt the seals, remove the seals when you're going to use harsh solvents, etc

Createx is one of the better airbrush paints.

[wary sonnet]

Where are his eyes?

[sterile grail]

so a regular paint thinner should be ok right?

I did some more testing for nebula. Looks like the blue shade really gives it a nice saturated looks. However i disliked the surface these shades gives.

time to find one for yellow

[plush swift]

You don't need paint thinner, just use deionized or distilled water. This is literally all you need, anything else it's actually a waste of money.

If the paint has issues and you need flow improver, that is a bad paint and don't use it

It means that they paint was never made correctly with the correct balancing agents to be an airbrush paint

It's really stupid

Because really all you need? Is to not include thickening agents. But most companies don't put the correct amount of wetting agent into the paint because it's expensive and requires exact percentages, like no joke 0.001% too much or too little and your paint is bad and will just completely not work

That's where flow improver comes in It's to balance that out however not all flow improvers work with the majority of paint because of different binders doing different things

However distilled water literally just works for them all

[sterile grail]

so distilled works for citadel paints i presume

and it doesnt damage the airbrush right

[plush swift]

Doesn't damage the airbrush, works for citadel paints

Citadel paints are a problem with trying to use flow in weird ways by the way, Because they literally have within their entire paint line two different types of paint medium. They use PVA and they also use polyurethane

[sterile grail]

yellow and blue shade

seems to make it more vibrant

[white tangle]

I'm doing my first batch paint and ive used a airbrush to basecoat all of it. It was a god damn nightmare. My airbrush kept having issues and every time i sprayed it would be at different patterns and consistencies. I thought for the longest time that it was the nozzle tip as paint kept getting stuck there but no. It was a flap of dried paint stuck in the area that the airbush paint holder connects to. I deep cleaned that area like 5 times previously with no result so assumed it wasn't the issue. It was the issue. (I also noticed and fixed it after spraying all 10 minis) I have wasted an entire paint pot, 2 days of my life + 2 extra days going over the models with a brush to make the paint the same across all models. I have heavy trauma and am going to therapy next Monday.

That makes it sound like airbrush bad. Its not only bad but a pure sign of Satan.

Conclusion: Gets worse before it gets better

[deft fable]

Should I add googly eyes ?

[wary sonnet]

What do you think?

[deft fable]

Daddy Nurgle won't disagree

[sterile grail]

I will take that in mind, thank you for sharing your traumatic experience

@white tangle

[lavish crescent]

How did you try and clean it?

Best idea is, if you have a good airbrush. Use a sonic bath. Shits gonna be expensive at first but God damn is it good for removing paint and anything else

After every paint session I fill my brush up with thinner, remove all moving parts and block the end. Basically I melt all the paint within the brush and release later that day

[white tangle]

nah I have a shit little airbush because i dont do any detail work yet. Just use it for basecoating but in the future i will definitely look into buying one because i cannot go through another catastrophe like that.

Also do everyone's highlights look a bit scruffy before cleanup or am I doing something wrong?

[sterile grail]

i mean it looks clean enough

much cleaner than mine thats for sure, everytime i try painting mine i always scrub the paints off

Also i got the older version, so the right knee pad is a damn flat surface. I have to paint black and highlight to make the illusion

[white tangle]

I not gonna lie im pretty sure your highlights are cleaner than mine. Maybe its because the camera smooths mine out or something idk. Also i wear gloves so if i so much as scrape the model with my finger--paint can come off. Its pain.

Also i think i remember you saying your marines are a custom chapter. The insignia that they have on the shoulder and knee are really cool.

[midnight locust]

We are our own worse critic.

Really though I see very little wrong with that highlighting

[edgy jackal]

Do you take apart the airbrush for the sonic bath, or just put the whole thing in?

[simple thorn]

Hoooo baby, that's the good stuff

That's the kinda thing I want to paint a Wraithguard in

[lavish crescent]

Take it apart and only place the main body

[sterile grail]

#40k-minis-and-armies message

thats my plan sir

well not wraith guard yet but maybe guardians

[simple thorn]

That's a spess mehren though

[plain granite]

My latest death guard. Slowly getting my first army done.

[simple thorn]

Guardians are a weird one to paint IMO

[sterile grail]

yeah their armor

im really hardstuck

havent decided yet

[simple thorn]

It's like
One of them is borderline impossible to make look good in two-tone
The other is only good in two tone

[sterile grail]

true true im trying hard to think of a colorscheme for them

[simple thorn]

Hard for me to find good examples because I didn't notice my phone camera blurred every single fucking one of the close-ups

[sterile grail]

i dig that blue

[simple thorn]

Ye. Is a nice blue
I've decided that this scheme is the colour for the My Dudes craftworld

Blue and White

[sterile grail]

I guess mine will be a bit darker

[simple thorn]

Their Wraithguards, however...

[sterile grail]

kinda like the ultraviolet

cant find paint for it yet

[simple thorn]

I have a Metric Fuckton™️ more, but I don't have a cord that lets me shift stuff from my phone to my computer

It's just a charge cable
So I gotta use gmail to email myself the pictures

[sterile grail]

you can upload via discord mobile

[simple thorn]

I know, and I've been doing that

Which is a problem because I don't save from discord which is stupid of me, so I don't have all my damn work from the past two years on my computer

[sterile grail]

check this one out. Yellow and blue wash on white. Pretty neat.

[simple thorn]

How do you do this
Genuinely

How do you do it

I want to Blood Raven it

Still got more 'guard than those, but my pics were on my other phone that broke

But anyway, normal elfs get the standard scheme, Wraithguard get pimped out

clOWn

[sterile grail]

it's a bit tricky but for this one you use white to draw the nebulas. Then I use Tyrant Shade and Imperial Fist Contrast and paint them across

[naive umbra]

Wraith units are the coolest part of Aeldari aesthetic to me

[simple thorn]

ikr

[naive umbra]

If I ever go in for an army I'd make a full spirit host

[simple thorn]

I even got a Wraithseer and Spiritseer for the heck of it

Frankly, she looks a helluva lot better than the Farseer

[naive umbra]

Even the hemlock wraithfighter looks cool as

[simple thorn]

Hemlock? The green one?

Wait, nvm, that's a ship isn't it?

[naive umbra]

Yeah, it's a flier

[simple thorn]

O damn, it don't look too bad

[naive umbra]

You got a Wraithknight yet?

I'm a sucker for big models

[simple thorn]

Literally in this one

[naive umbra]

Wait just saw it lmao

[simple thorn]

Can't miss it, it's the dude with two pics all to himself

lol

[naive umbra]

That's sick

[simple thorn]

Fucked up the leg positioning, which is why I have real, actual rocks on the base

So it looks less like I fucked up and made a Tactically Genius move

[naive umbra]

I just finished assembling my Riptide model with all options magnetised

[simple thorn]

I really should look into getting some things magnetized

[naive umbra]

Still unsure what I'm doing with the base

Probably just some big woodchips painted as rocks, with sand like my other bases

[simple thorn]

Oooo, that sounds fun actually

[tiny jay]

@plush swift any advice for what pigments I should be looking for to with blues that would be best for the skin? the greens/browns from the kit I've got paints for and I figure I'll be better served by making the skin pop.

I've got a few pots of various citadel blues I've used for plasma but I'll probably get some new paints for this lo

lot*

[brisk vapor]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/08/download-free-tyranid-index-cards-and-devour-the-galaxy-whole/

the first 10ed index is out

[cinder bear]

Just noticed it looks a lot like the helmet of rogue trader era guard

[jaunty trail]

This is nice! But Waitin' for Space Marines, Black Templars and Votann stuff 🤣

[tiny jay]

Its not suprising, most of 40k is heavily inspired by Judge Dredd and other 2000ad Comics, Rogue Trooper was one of them.

[cinder bear]

Yep, good for me as I was trying to make some art of rogue trader era style guard

[midnight locust]

First time magnetizing sponsons on a tank. A lot easier than I expected.

[obsidian ocean]

Doing something similar with my Squats. Mainly RT models and a few unreleased 2nd edition Squats +1980s dwarfs

RT guard still pop up on ebay, prices usually not too bad

[sweet sinew]

Anyone have a favorite “piece” to build? I always save space marine backpacks for last, they are quite satisfying to paint IMO

[obsidian ocean]

I thought some blue pigments were significantly more expensive than other colours. The same issue for the correct tint of blue for leds

Be careful, with leds there are a lot of scammers using a blend of pigments to get close to it, or use a different pigment that differs from what is advertised

Same issue with paints in general. Pure pigment paints cost a lot more, often you only see the difference when blending or layering

[plush swift]

Not really, most are the cheapest pigments on the market. Anthraquinone is really the only super pricey one these days outside of things like cobalt pigments

[plush swift]

no such thing as pure pigment paints, if they market them as such, dont buy them. Its a scam or just bad.

If you mean single pigment, then no they actually dont. A lot are around $11~ for a 118ml

[obsidian ocean]

Yeah single instead of pure. Not many brands offer them here locally. Bought some at a store that cathers to art academy students

I'll look up the blue I mean, it's about 7 to 12x the price of the avarage pigment

[plush swift]

I mean I have a blue that costed me $30,000 for a kg, but thats a very different story

a lot of the natural ones are expensive, but mostly because its rare and outside of collectors, there isnt much demand for them since synthetics perform better and are way cheaper

Not really a reason to use lapis lazuli these days when pb29 ultramarine looks almost identical, costs nothing to make, can be changed in color easily, and just over all performs better

And as an added benefit, you're not funding the taliban

[plush swift]

this isnt as much as you would think btw, the average pigment is like $6-10 a kg. That would just be in the range of anthraquinone

[tiny jay]

Pretend I'm an idiot, in fact, don't pretend.

What dis?

[tiny jay]

I was really hoping the mongoose minis for the RT game would have been produced but AFAIK it never got anywhere after kickstarter.

[tiny jay]

Danke starch.

[plush swift]

its kind of rare and hard to find, give me a few and I can open up a tool that will tell you pigment blends on a color

[tiny jay]

More common suggestions/alternatives are welcome, I'm heading to my local Jacksons art supply tomorrow. I can always go slightly more blue than the above.

Also mercifully I can just paint the eyes white and it'll be on brand.

[plush swift]

and then you just change the variables like bone black and phthalo green

another version

getting that exact color is a little tricky

[tiny jay]

I can always go more cyan.

[plush swift]

the third image is

but im trying to avoid cerulean

cerulean is a cobalt pigment

[tiny jay]

Saving these, especially the lightest shade on the 3rd.

[plush swift]

https://goldenpaints.com/mixer this tool can help a ton

just make sure to set the pallet correctly

[tiny jay]

I'll probably test a few arms, see what I like the finished look of.

But once I find a mix, I'm gonna use it for the whole army.

Cheers!

[plush swift]

No problem

I will highly recommend golden high flow white btw

its the easiest white to use on the market

[tiny jay]

Is that just a Ti white with pre-mixed flow enhancer/aid?

Ah nvm, they do a Ti white in the range. Gotcha.

[plush swift]

you dont want pre-mixed flow improver paint

golden just doesnt add thickening agent to the paint

so its more ink like

[tiny jay]

Also quick sanity check, outside Golden/Jacksons products I've mostly got access to:

Winsor & Newon, Matisse, Global, Chromacryl, Atellier, Chroma and A2 brands. Any I should look at more strongly or avoid?

As in, thats what my local Jacksons has on the shelf so I can just pick them up instead of ordering them online.

I'm in Australia so IDK if many are local only brands.

[plush swift]

I dont know A2 or global very well, W&N I'm just not a massive fan of but its not bad just not what I like

[plush swift]

Matisse is, and its pretty good. it tends to be a little more glossy than I normally use, and I tend to use glossier paints then just throw a varnish over them later

[tiny jay]

is Cerulean blue deep distinct from Cerulean Blue?

I can get Cerulean Blue, or Cobalt Turquoise... I can also get a Pthaltho Green, its cheaper than the CB or CT.

or I can get Cerulean Blue hue from Golden.

[plush swift]

yes. however I would avoid cobalt pigments as a whole, they are genuinely toxic

[tiny jay]

I mean I have PPE if need be, I'm set up for resin printing, just waiting on my printer.

And uh, a few boxes of 6001 cartridges went missing when I was made redundant at my old job.

[plush swift]

I mean, as long as you dont lick your brush ever, you should be fine

just dont dump the rinse water down the sink

it will actually poison wildlife in small amounts

[tiny jay]

Yeah thats fine, I've got a drum for that shit anyway.

I separate used oil from used brake fluid/solvents/hydraulic fluid, so I can just dump it in with them when I do my recycling.

[plush swift]

Good, you're all set then

I in general tend to lean towards the more safe side of things

[tiny jay]

I mean, if I'm already disposing of toxic resin in metho its not a big deal to dispose of my brush water and some paper at the same time.

That said, I realise I'm more well setup to handle recycling oil and solvents that most. I've got 4x drums dedicated to it so I can start one while the others are full or out getting emptied and have forklift tines for my tractor so I can just put them on my truck to take them in. so its not like I'm taking in a small quantity each time

[edgy jackal]

How should you dispose of resin/other 3d print stuff and cobalt paint water? Store in seperate metal vat until full, then drive it down to a local waste facility?

[plush swift]

pretty much

[plush swift]

yeah you're way better equiped than most

[mental jolt]

Check with your local waste management or what have you. Regulations vary from place to place.

[plush swift]

plus you could live in a place like I do which doesnt even have a functioning recycling system in place

[errant fulcrum]

black templar JetBike

[jaunty trail]

By Dorn! Looks good

But how do you play this in 40k?

[errant fulcrum]

land speeder tornadoe

same base size

[jaunty trail]

Also same stats?! Never compared so thats why i ask ^^

[errant fulcrum]

well theresn't a jetbike in 40K but the weapons they give you are also the same you can give to a land speeder (minus the plasma gun)

So I strapped some HH miniguns to the front to fill in for the autocannon the land speeder has

[tiny jay]

Love a bit of counts-as.

[jaunty trail]

🤔 hmm sounds legit.. Well worked out then ^^

[errant fulcrum]

Plus you get 3 bikes in one box for $60 versus $38 for one landspeeder. Combine that with the fact you can run landspeeders in units of 3 and you got full squad for almost 1/3 of the price of buying 3 land speeders

[tiny jay]

Unless they bring back renegade and heretis and let them bring allied chaos units. I doubt I'll ever find a decent way to field Poxwalkers, Greater Blight Drones and Pox Hounds with my Moebian 6th in a legit way.

For now I'm just planning them as Scions with Ogryn Auxillaries.

[jaunty trail]

Thats a point 🤣 but i almost shop in local social discount shops... so i regularly save up to 25% money and support people with disorders also ^^

[errant fulcrum]

oh neat

[jaunty trail]

Yup yesterday my boarding Patrol for Votann arrived... just saved 25% to the original GW price 😄

[errant fulcrum]

Fair enough. My guard friend found some Mechs from Avatar that hes planning to proxy as bullgryns

[jaunty trail]

Currently workin on this dude

Crystals need some more work on edges and sand must be painted black/ashy

[tiny jay]

Switched gears since it doesn't look like they're doing more than one launch detatchment for each army. Gonna print some of the Reptillian Overlords Spacenam models and paint them up as Genetic Infantry from Rogue Trooper and run a Nu Earth themed Catachan Army. Still got the sentinel from Cadia stands so I just need a few more. And I can either use the FOB's or paint up my old basilisks.

Need to figure out how to do a Nu Earth themed lord Solar though. Might have to flick through some comics for inspiration.

[simple thorn]

Wraithguard heads
Hell, Wraithguard in general

Wraith constructs in general

[sweet sinew]

Those helmets do look very nice

[pine yacht]

Iron Man!

[celest zealot]

there's an ironkin joke to be made there somewhere

[midnight locust]

What primer would you use if you’re using yellow contrast paints

[mellow bridge]

First time putting decals on

[sullen creek]

Once i learned the weakness of my flesh, i was disgusted by it

[errant fulcrum]

Looks dope

[sullen creek]

Thanks! My first techpriest

Gotta finish his other bits and assemble but i think he is looking good, minus the wonky eye but thats what makes it better imho

[glossy hawk]

My project atm. My friend offloaded an ork trukk onto me and hoooly fuck is it a hot mess

There’s leftover sprue still attached, a set of wheels isnt glued

tons of it just came off when i gently pulled (it was glued)

I can fix her

A few minor kitbashes, after cleaning the mold lines and sprue residue off I added an ork face to the wrecking ball for fun and cut the ramp in half since I didn’t like them.

[jaunty trail]

Looks a bit like it, but it is still the meme counter offensive towards the "Angry Marines" just switched colour scheme and yeah... had to hold my promise towards my friends XD

And so the "League of Rage" was born @pine yacht

[rare hornet]

ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS

[plush swift]

I'll dm you something if you want,I did an over view of it

[void basin]

Get it dun, ladz!

[cursive gyro]

Now am jealous

My trukk's a bigger mess

But is still my baby and I love it

[midnight locust]

Would an air quality of 108 affect priming?

[celest zealot]

As long as it's not too cold or humid it should be fine

Be safe though, get a respirator

[lavish crescent]

Agreed, get gloves too

[celest zealot]

Yeah

I mean you should be using a respirator when priming anyway but especially in this air quality

Assuming you're in NA

[midnight locust]

Thankfully it isn’t as bad as it was yesterday or two days ago

[midnight locust]

Debating if I want to camo this up with something like dark angel green

[jaunty trail]

where other factions 🤔

[brisk vapor]

later

everyone gets an index before release though

[jaunty trail]

Hope so... Space Marine Index reads good... still waitin for Black Templars and Votann stuff tho...

But i wonder what happened with venerable Dreadnought... hasn't been in Space Marine Index....

[plush swift]

it can, but generally only drying times

[brisk vapor]

the old dread kit (single loadout) was retired and the existing venerable dreadnought kit is pretty much for the new Boxnought datasheet

[jaunty trail]

My Venerable is from 2012... Had alredy options for twin linked las cannon etc...

[brisk vapor]

yeah the old OLD kit was retired

[jaunty trail]

So my is the "old" kit? 😄

[brisk vapor]

no

[plush swift]

some paints can be used in freezing cold without the paint being affected, but this is generally only the higher quality ones in the professional sphere fun fact

[brisk vapor]

the kit that was retired had this as it's boxart and you could built it with assault cannon,lascannon, missile launcher or a fist. The venerable has all those options and more. The new rules just combine all basic boxnoughts to one datasheet

[celest zealot]

Well yeah but most people won't have primers of that level. At least nobody that I know.

[jaunty trail]

Ah i see then Thanks for Info ^^

[celest zealot]

Though I do mostly just use rattle cans or my airbrush anyway

[brisk vapor]

no problem

[celest zealot]

I am gonna miss the old guy though

I only ever painted one of them but I've been thinking of grabbing a Furioso dread for my 30k blood angels

Could run it as part of a castra ferrum talon

[brisk vapor]

the venerable dread has a pretty indentical look as an option so it's not entirely gone

[celest zealot]

Yeah I know

It's mostly just nostalgia speaking

[brisk vapor]

ye

[jaunty trail]

Battle Patrols in 10th ed finally making sense...

[celest zealot]

Speaking of huge mechs though I got this guy mostly assembled (typhus for scale)

Just need to find my hair dryer to bend that pipe for the graviton ram

[compact umbra]

Todays my birthday and finally got these

And an airbush

So hype at

[celest zealot]

Fallout minis are unironically so hype

I wanna play it someday

[plain granite]

Wip of my continued addiction to death guard, a couple characters pre-shade.

[wary sonnet]

Horus?

[wary sonnet]

Have fun.

[sweet sinew]

1/20

[wary sonnet]

The armor looks like it's been through hell.

Not saying that it's bad.

[sweet sinew]

some light weathering, technical-typhus-corrosion is a fantastic wash for armor

[wary sonnet]

It may be just a personal opinion, but corrosion is more fitting for the Death Guard.

Since, you know, chemical warfare.

It may be even a bit too much corrosion.

Looking at the barrel of that bolter makes me question its functionality.

[tepid badge]

I think i did ok for my first mini ive ever painted

[heady lotus]

Hecc yeah..... i found one of my first minis recently and it's just a blob of paint so defintley better than that xD

[jagged sparrow]

I remember my first mini

It is a clash of blue, gold, red and black in the rough shape of a space marine

[tepid badge]

I missed a spot 😩

I need a better light in my living room

[naive umbra]

Started building my Devilfish transport. The inside wall panel has these racks that perfectly fit Fire Warrior pulse rifles, so I cut a bunch of spare rifles out from my other boxes to fill the rack. Now I'm at the stage where interior needs painting before I can assemble further.

[tepid badge]

Is the inside gonna be visible or are you just adding detail?

[plain granite]

Made sure to add an important detail to my nurgling.

[pine yacht]

Wow.

[naive umbra]

I will be magnetising all the hatches

[plain granite]

And the finished pre shade project.

[naive umbra]

The rear hatch is a built in hinge/ramp, but the side hatches will need a little work

[jaunty trail]

Somebody already ordered the Leviathan box?

[simple agate]

They had 4 left to preorder at my local games store so I got in just in time

[jaunty trail]

Which region? Europe is next availiable in some hours....

[simple agate]

Australia:)

The preorder from GW was at 12 this afternoon for me

[jaunty trail]

Yeah mine will be in about 1,5 hours 😄

[simple agate]

Good luck legend 🤙🤙🤙 hopefully if your getting a box you can snag a copy

[jaunty trail]

Hope so too... want to get the online one with the preorder stuff cuz would be nice to have an terrain mat

[simple agate]

Yeah I wish I could have gotten those boards 😩😩😩 2 big old boards to use for combat or 2k

[jaunty trail]

I like bigger boards tbh.. more tactical options 😄

[crude solstice]

I can't decide whether to go goblin green or bestial brown for my bloodbowl undead team bases

[rare hornet]

IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!

DOO DO DOOO DOO

[jaunty trail]

3 mins left until gw site opens for me xD

Got my box with preorder stuff XD

[rare hornet]

woo!

I feel sorry for the poor guy trying to go to GW to buy like a box of gretchins for their mate

[jaunty trail]

Ye... I wonder why GW is currently makin' this "only limited availiable" stuff.... Cuz' if they want to get more players they should produce enough so that there is no fomo...

[edgy jackal]

Have you been to a GW store recently? They're literally running out of shelf and storage space due to diversity of products.

[jaunty trail]

I don't go to my local store really and when i go i only buy paints there... Cuz' minis and stuff i mostly get from my social discount store that also give money to charity to halp disabled people....

And i have nearly to drive an hour to my next GW store by car 😄

[edgy jackal]

Point is, they (store managers) already get orders every so often to destroy specific products because of low demand, to make space for new kits.

[jaunty trail]

Hmm 🤔

[edgy jackal]

Also lol, GW website has a queue

[jaunty trail]

Ye i was on GW site on 10:45 CEST (11:00 was start for leviathan) and then i had to wait 45 min in queue in total before i could place my order.... 😄

But now a friend of mine gets half of the leviathan box cuz' he plays tyranids and i got a huge expansion for my Black Templars. Also nice is to have the extra battlefield mat.

[jovial siren]

yes, you really did. Now bathe it in a wash. Pickle it in nuln oil, you know you must

[rare hornet]

Lucky, I had to wait 2 hours

[tepid badge]

I dont have nuln oil rn

[jovial siren]

some heretics say, its just highly diluted black

[tepid badge]

Ill prolly do that next time i get paid

[jovial siren]

Did that with a brown color for the legs for some "dirt effect". Just diluted it until it was like a typical wash, works really neat, and helps for low budget painting

[tepid badge]

I think i might be a heretic then.

I believe the box came with black paint. Ill try that tonight

[jovial siren]

do it, if you're not happy, just use a clean damp brush and soak it up, works really good

[slate pond]

Exalted champion chat

[cinder bear]

@compact umbra only sternguard used the combi-melta in models as far as im aware

[slate pond]

Anyone done any conversions for master of possession or exalted champion?

[tiny jay]

Honestly I'd build a Old World Chaos Army before I'd do CSM or Regular Marines.

But like, the problem with that is I'd need to include models that aren't Chaos Warriors.

I could be happy with Marauders at a pinch

[slate pond]

I'm doing an exalted champion as Savona from the Fabius bile books, she carries a power maul though and the datasheet is locked to power axe

Combi melta is fine, got one off the mark 3 armour sprue

[cinder bear]

wait, is that slambo with just one axe?

[tiny jay]

Hero Quest chaos warrior.

IDK if Slambo or HQ came first - GW made some of the minis for HQ

Well, all of the Minis

[cinder bear]

gw made the mini's for hero quest if i remember right

[tiny jay]

Yeah

[cinder bear]

sadly i only have the new version of it and the models are too... soft? don't know how to say it

the plastic is too bendy

[tiny jay]

I don't mind the heroes, I hate the rest.

The terrain is OK

I decided not to buy the re-release, I still have my OG HQ and Expansions.

[cinder bear]

my brother bought it, personally i find hero quest kind of boring to play through

[tiny jay]

HQ is a great stepping stone into D&D or other Mini games. Particularly for kids.

Or someone new to D&D, alot of people struggle to grasp like, what to do when everything is theater of the mind and you can do basically anything.

[cinder bear]

that true, but for D&D and such i also moved toward diceless systems to introduce people to it

[tiny jay]

But like, having everything laid out and a really simple set of rules makes it easay to get people started.

All their options are laid out, they don't need to imagine or think up what to do next.

And you can move on from there.

[cinder bear]

let's them familiarize well with the core of roleplay and stuff without having to worry about 200 pages of rules and books lol

[cinder bear]

also there's a local company here in italy that makes some damn bangers and sells them for like, 50 euro total

[tiny jay]

Thats fair, I had a couple that wanted to get into D&D and found it all pretty intimidating. So I broke out Hero Quest and got some players willing to sub in HQ for D&D for 3 weeks to a month and by the time we got through the game and expansions they were fine with jumping into D&D

I'm probably gonna make a custom HQ board for the increased scale, since some people have made new sculpts that actually match the original box art.

I might do a Chaos/Slaves to Darkness army after I finish my Counts-as Bretonnians though.

Lean heavy into the Death Dealer/Chaos Warrior/Skeletor Aesthetic.

[compact umbra]

Oh yeah the OG version was Cannon to warhammer

[tiny jay]

They're not the OG sculpts. They're new.

One Page Rules offers them in a pack with a few variations.

Some -slight- differences from the Woloszyn Minis that were only released for a limited time.

[tepid badge]

Instead of diluting black is the agrax earthshade that came in the box a good one to use?

[jovial siren]

Yes. It's basically diluted brown, I used agrax on the right mini for the trims and overall darkening of the basecoat and after that made the dirt effect with another brown paint that I diluted. So you can use the upper body as a example in what direction agrax will go. For the bolter I used nuln oil though

[tepid badge]

Ok sweet

[pastel grotto]

GRAAAA I LOVE THE IMPERIUM

[plush swift]

thats why you buddy up with store owners, they'll "destroy" the products into your car trunk in a secret fashion

[midnight locust]

Tried out a new camo scheme for the Dorn. Thoughts?

[wintry pilot]

iron warrior ⚠️

[jaunty trail]

This is a good idea if a store owner is good one...

[plush swift]

you posted a picture of your hand, not a tank

[plush swift]

Just bribe them

[deft fable]

Oopsie

[naive umbra]

Step 1 of working hatch complete.

[compact umbra]

silly question, wahts the thing thats wrapped around the head called again?? the cloth

the desert raiders havea lot of them

[brisk vapor]

Kinda reminds me of a shemagh but not quite

[naive umbra]

A headscarf?

[compact umbra]

yeah its like almost that

HOLY SHIT THEY ADDED THE BLACK STONE FORTRESS KILTELAMS

oh

i was on the wrong pone

never mind lol

i was on the first ediiton website not the second

[tiny jay]

Kaffiyeh. Though that typically refers to midde eastern headscarves woven from wool in traditional patterns. Frequently red and white or black and white etc.

Shemagh and Ghutra are types of Kaffiyeh, but Headscarf is also accurate for lack of a more specific term.

[compact umbra]

ballen thank you

[tiny jay]

A Tuareg inspired Desert Raider army would be fun, but I'd really need some good female guard scupts for officers.

[compact umbra]

im trying to find bits of gas mask heads with the head scarfs

for the Krieg Killteam

that im making talleran

[compact umbra]

oh yeah i found a good third party one i might get and run as a character

[tiny jay]

saved

[compact umbra]

lmao

[tiny jay]

The Dark blue Tuareg scarves would be a really good accent color for Desert Raiders.

[compact umbra]

shes like 14 usd so maybe running her as uhhhh let me pull up the character

[tiny jay]

But like, you can vary it lighter/darker between characters.

I don't know anything about Desert Raiders characters if they have any.

[compact umbra]

im thinking my killteam might be red based off soem art i liked

that has a similar coat

[tiny jay]

Kewl, do Tallarn have any unique characters?

I'm doing Genetic Infantry inspired Catachans as soon as my new printer arrives. Rogue Trooper as Sly Marbo.

[compact umbra]

they do!

well

use to

its like

old hammer stuff

[tiny jay]

Fair, Catachans are fairly luck in that they've got Sly Marbo, Stracken and Harker.

I haven't figured out if I'll try and do normal humans for some of the non-fighting HQ, I can mostly just use Solar Auxillia bodies I just need heads that match the Souther Troops.

[wintry pilot]

Plaguecaster secured! Such a cool sculpt/model

[compact umbra]

Lmao yeah, I heard he was a neat character but is dead af

[tiny jay]

I think the Catachans are mostly lucky that Stracken and Sly Marbo have fairly recenly refreshed sculpts. I forget if Harker had an update.

Ah NVM, its not Stracken its just another sculpt with a power fist.

Okay, so they still sell all the Catachan characters.

[pastel grotto]

Death comes for you

[sweet sinew]

2/20

[tepid badge]

I should not of used the helmetless marine

Faces are a bitch

[midnight locust]

Just fleshtone and add a wash for simplicity

[plush swift]

they arent if you dont use premixed colors weirdly enough, flesh dones just require orange, brown, and white in most cases. its not super hard to learn

flesh is one of those times when mixing your own colors makes the process easier

[wary sonnet]

Nicely done. For the Warmaster.

[sweet sinew]

What I do, any sort of screw ups, I put a bit of earthshade or blood, easier for me to hide than to undo my messes

[tepid badge]

im gonna use that

[sweet sinew]

It also has the added bonus of making your guy look really beat up, which makes sense. They were stupid enough to take their helmet off

[tiny ermine]

Phobos armor, my favorite

[compact umbra]

LMAO DOES TEHF UCKING GW WEBSITE HAVE BUYING GUIDES INCASE SOMETHING IOS BUSTED IN THE NEW EDITION SO YOU CAN COUNTER IT

[compact umbra]

baller af

[compact umbra]

PSA: Leviathen is still on amazon, preorders are up and it will be send on june 26th

[tiny ermine]

I dont recognize this design, is this the so called ethereal i've heard about?

[simple thorn]

Nay, it's a technically-knockoff Nightbringer model.
Someone posted theirs awhile ago so I decided 'damn that's cool, I want one'

So I got one and painted it

[tiny ermine]

It looked like a warframe at first, specifically "Wisp". The fanservice of the game

[simple thorn]

Brother I have played Warframe, Wisp is hardly 'the' fanservice

There is thirst for every single god damn frame.
There's thirst for Xaku, and that fucker is a literal skeleton made of space magic

Personal opinion though, Zephyr is the best and everyone else is wrong. Except for Wisp fans/simps

[tiny ermine]

Havent seen warframe in a long time

[mental jolt]

Those are some lovely tones for the robes, nicely done.

[tiny ermine]

I didnt paint it, just wanted show my appreciation for the phobos librarian

[mental jolt]

Ah, still, it looks nice

[tiny ermine]

Yeah, although i'd go for worn brown leather instead of white

And i'd make the armor filthier, covered in sand and mud

[rapid lake]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT81fUCTg/

[ornate bramble]

After building so many lumineth going back to building some chonky tartaros boys is fun

[tulip fiber]

My first little army is growing

[sterile grail]

3 hours of highlighting. Smallest highlight on the gun i have done yet. Gotta say it was very hard and i made alot of mistakes.

Do you guys think the small highlight of the gun fit with the big highlights on the infiltrator body?

[brisk vapor]

A dash of royal gold to highlight the Ithakan silver

[boreal oyster]

Wow, they look amazing

[slate pond]

real nice 👌

[brisk vapor]

Cheers!

[oak apex]

Just finished these chaos storm troopers + command squad

[tiny jay]

Crisp, I'd put some of the greens used for the cammo on a sponge and do some chipping on the white and blue unit markings personally. Might help soften the edges a little.

Also, with how good Ratlings are looking in 10th I might have to convert some Nurglings with sniper rifles for my Moebians >.>

[midnight locust]

Yeah I plan on doing some weathering tomorrow so I’ll definitely be doing that!

[limber haven]

Current WIP. Very much how I play DT, too 😂

[elder hornet]

A singular shirtless Khorne Warrior

It is the only mini I own

[cursive gyro]

DILLION

You sonofabich

[tiny jay]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[jaunty trail]

Looks a bit like Avery Johnson out of Halo....

[cursive gyro]

Still damn weird there's no Sly Marbo mini

[jaunty trail]

(for Reference):
https://cdn4.whatculture.com/images/2019/07/5b497c7c748b68db-600x338.png

[tiny jay]

There is?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Astra-Militarum-Sly-Marbo-2018

[cursive gyro]

Uuuuuh

Sly "Ductch" Marbo?

[sullen creek]

Finished my techpriest

[agile junco]

rest of the incursor squad done

[sterile grail]

that looks phenomenal. Great color scheme

[celest zealot]

Finally got around to painting a GSC model

nothing special but im proud of the work on the skin

it's only after i highlighted the skirt that i realized it'd be mostly covered with snow

i do love painting GSC though not nearly as slow or painful as i had thought

[agile junco]

ty
didnt think all red incursors were too stealthy lol

[celest zealot]

I really like that scheme, I might steal it....

[vale pollen]

Made my first tank

[celest zealot]

Good shit

Looks amazing

[summer shale]

I repainted the lines on his coat, before that he looked like Santa claus with the line being red and white.

[simple thorn]

What's wrong with Grimdark Santa?
He breaches the hulls of all there heretics and gives them stubber rounds to the cranium

[summer shale]

this was how it looked before

"Deck the halls with bloody corpses, lalalala la la laaaa"

[simple thorn]

Not even being facetious, I like Santa Breacher more

Still, they be your dudes and ultimately yours

[summer shale]

Thank ya 👍

[white tangle]

are you supposed to store yore wet palette in the fridge?

[brisk vapor]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/12/celebrate-500000-instagram-followers-with-the-tyranid-deathleaper/

[teal wolf]

Thats brutal

[teal wolf]

I do, but I also live in a desert

[mental jolt]

I mean, you could, but I just leave mine out and refill it with water when needed.
The wetpalette won't give your paints unlimited lifespan, it'll let them survive while you paint.

[midnight locust]

Any suggestions on highlighting Caliban green? I’ve heard warpstone Caliban mix is decent

[mental jolt]

depends on the effect you want, any beige, yellow, brighter green or white should work to mix in for a highlight

[jaunty trail]

Lulz... I may not play anti grav tanks on Black Templars anymore... 🤣

[midnight locust]

Any suggestions on where to start if you want to dip a toe into space marines? (I’m still working on my guard army but I want to mix things up so I’m not painting guardsman #80 and feeling myself going insane)

[jaunty trail]

If you want some variation try Deathwatch... any space marine order can get marines into serving in the deathwatch

[midnight locust]

Eh not my aesthetic. I’d probably go Lamenters because I’m a masochist (that and my luck is on par with theirs)

[celest zealot]

The new 10th ed space marine set isn't a bad place to start by any means

[mental jolt]

Could always pick up a lieutenant you like the look of to try and paint

[celest zealot]

That too

[midnight locust]

Probably would do the same with Custodes because it’s a tie between the two I want to start next

Guard comes first though.

[coarse badger]

Can I get some feedback on a colour scheme?

Been revisiting a chapter and am debating changing the helmet colour

[celest zealot]

Sure

I'm up to look at it

[coarse badger]

Original is the one with the white helmet, though that makes distinguishing veterans difficult

[celest zealot]

I think black helmet with white helmets on veterans would work

[coarse badger]

Aight

Ooo I could add nice white markings to helmets for contrast

[white tangle]

I might be being dumb but have you magnetised the heads or photoshop the image? Also I like it when all veterans exclusively have all white helms.

[coarse badger]

I just snag images off the GW site and edit them

Models are a luxury I have no access to I'm afraid

[rapid lake]

So what's the process you do in Photoshop to get it as clear as you do

[coarse badger]

Oh it's not photoshop

It's just some free app on mobile called ibispaint

Gives you an option for greyscale, then you just make a layer set to "Overlay" at 50% opacity

And just colour over it

[jovial siren]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-grail-monty-python-king-arthur-who-are-you-so-learned-in-the-ways-of-science-gif-15455193
whats that animation?

[coarse badger]

What animation

[jovial siren]

your video

[coarse badger]

It's just a timelapse, app records brush strokes I think

[jovial siren]

oh, interesting how you painted then, with what app did you record it?

[coarse badger]

Ibispaint

All built in

[plush swift]

honestly no, most paints you guys use wont really survive well from being chilled from being put into a fridge anyways

[celest zealot]

i finally got those marines i stripped like, last year, primed

they were very badly stripped mind you but nothing a coat of grey primer and some basecoating won't fix

i also made a gray dip wash so i can speedpaint the fuckers

....Though i may not exactly have a place to store them once they are painted for the moment

[celest zealot]

Ooooh really nice stuff, necromunda I'm guessing?

[proven marsh]

Some, but mostly for fun.

[celest zealot]

i love them either way :)

[crude solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDPHCScKqHE

[indigo cosmos]

I need ideas for what colors to paint these dudes, Iv already been given the idea for like bright blue and red look

[sterile grail]

that looks great, how do you set up the pose for photos?

nvm

its digital coloring haha

[coarse badger]

Yep lol

I WISH I could get minis

But figuring out GW policy on shipping to the Balkans is difficult and also seems expensive anyway

[willow agate]

dirt brown and beige

[simple thorn]

[{ABBADON: THE DESPOILER}]

<[I]> [PROPOSE] AN ::!ALLIANCE!::

[wary sonnet]

You think that Vashorr would have time for Failbaddon?

[simple thorn]

Dude literally is calling for an alliance in his reveal teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUdYtU20uPw

Also I forgot what was said anyhow

'twas 'I have come to make an offer'

[willow agate]

(world of warcraft for the game tag btw) BRUH

[cinder bear]

literally gives him an entire fleet of arks of omen

[crude solstice]

????

[weary nexus]

Happy with him. yey!

[jaunty trail]

4/20 🙃

[midnight locust]

When it comes to vehicles, do people prefer edge highlighting or dry brushing edges?

[simple agate]

On the main body I'll do a dry brush but in certain parts I'll do some edge highlights, like smaller panels or the very top of a chasis or something

[crisp sable]

My Brutalis Dread. He hates columns for hindering his charge range.

[midnight locust]

So like on my Dorn for example, I’m guessing I’d use edge highlighting on the exhaust ports on the sides and dry brush the rivets?

[simple agate]

yeah!!! id be carful drybrushing the rivets i did the mistake on my bane blade and now it looks hella worn haha, with the edge highlights, id say just do the areas that catch the most light, like the sponson rim and such

[midnight locust]

Hm maybe I just use some scrag brown and dot the rivets with a brush for rust? Or the highlight color individually? Might take longer but it’d be cleaner I think

[simple agate]

yeah that sounds cleaner give it a crack!

[midnight locust]

Also would getting some typhus corrosion around the bottom of the side skirts add some flavor?

[simple agate]

OOOOOO yeah nice and rusty, depends on what setting you want, pigments for dusty stuff or some rust effects to make it look hella battle scared 😄 im keen to see what you do 🙂

[midnight locust]

Ah I’d need to pick up some pigments for dirt I think. I have stirland mud but that’s a bit too thick for my liking

[errant fulcrum]

Art from the new Black Templars digital codex

[midnight locust]

How does one get their brushes to a fine enough point for edge highlighting without getting the paint on too thick

[simple agate]

Make your paint almost a glaze and let the brush soak it up then angle your model on a 45° angle 🥴🥴🥴 it works for me though I have to do a couple of layers on the highlights

[midnight locust]

Fair enough

[lean snow]

2/3 done

[cinder bear]

I want that helmet on the right

[errant fulcrum]

same

[wary sonnet]

Blood for thr Blood God?

[lean snow]

SKUUUUUULLS ferda throne

[midnight locust]

Ended up messing around with some wear. Nothing too crazy but I think it added to the tank overall

[jaunty trail]

Looks good for a Battle Tank... Have you thought about adding some bagpacks/helmets on free turret space or some munition crates or else? Would make it look a bit more realistic ^^ 😉

Or also sandbags or something like that ^^

[midnight locust]

Could definitely add it in post. I did put two stubber ammo boxes on the top of the turret; I can look into some green stuff sandbags

[jaunty trail]

Tip from me cuz Astra Militarum is literally a mashup out of WWI and WWII armies:

Look up some historical photos of Tanks from WWII for example, gives tons of input and shows often much very easy additions that can be made with not much effort to put in 😉

especially american tank crews and german tank crews modded their tanks like they needed them...

[celest zealot]

y'all seen the new Chaos Space Marine datasheets?

we are eating GOOD today, folks

[jaunty trail]

Saw them and thought: "Okay bring in distance and heavy weaponry. - Problem solved"

[celest zealot]

yeah but melee good stuff is still TERRIFYING

[jaunty trail]

Correct.

[celest zealot]

strength 8 minimum attacks on Daemon Princes AND mortals on charges with wings, which is what i'm running

well with mark of Khorne

but extra toughness with the nurgle mark might be a good pick too

possessed getting even more dark pact bonuses is scary too

[jaunty trail]

Ye. Nurgle will be harder to deal cuz of the toughness

[celest zealot]

better for me since i'm running a good chunk of em

and termies getting free dark pact rerolls is good too

[jaunty trail]

Space Marine Termies got "anger of the first" and can change any rolled dice how it's needed XD

[celest zealot]

even still

let me have this, man, i didn't get to enjoy chaos in 9th ;-;

[jaunty trail]

I didn't enjoy 9th edition as Black Templars player xD

[jaunty trail]

So you want the reliqiuary helmet

[cinder bear]

Wait it's already on a model?

[jaunty trail]

Literally it is in the BT Battle Patrol Box 🤣

[cursive gyro]

It is done, After many months, I finaly finished it

[jaunty trail]

Fun fact: GW has F!#*ed up their photos in their store. Photos only showing backsides of the helmets XD

@cinder bear this is the Helmet:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Rvf2MKIRTMAqFK6R.jpg

Should also be in the Black Templars Upgrade Set.

Side Note: This is a relic so if you want to play a model with it, there can be literally only one mini with that helmet

[urban harbor]

i swear i remember seeing iron warriors with those somewhere

[jaunty trail]

Could be. But for Black Templars it's the "Crusader's Helm" what is a part of the relic armory of the Black Templars.... In 9th Edition it is Limited to one. Haven't read the full 10th edition Index for the Templars yet but think it will be restricted again

[urban harbor]

oh it was the mk2 helmet nvm lol

[jaunty trail]

😄

Could fit... cuz it's old parts that are still used by the Templars and so it is relic to them where it is "standard" to iron warriors xD

[urban harbor]

lol

[jaunty trail]

Templars still may use sicarians and stuff in 9th edition cuz they are 2nd founding order and they are descending from Imperial Fists ^^

Question:

Can i add an Infernus squad in Black Templars color scheme into my BT Army??
Current indexes don't really tell me if possible or not 😄

[rare hornet]

Infernus are generic marines so yes

You can’t use other chapter units and must use the Templar specific hover tanks. Apart from that you can use any marine units

[jaunty trail]

So when there is only "Adeptus-Astartes" witout any other Order Name implied it's okay right?

[rare hornet]

Yeah that’s fine

[jaunty trail]

Only difference on BT Hovers is, that they may use mostly meltas

🤣

[rare hornet]

Yeah I know but as rules are written XD

Yeah anything that’s not from another chapter you’re fine

[jaunty trail]

As i first read i may not use hovers i thought "what the?!" and then i saw hover data cards and i thought again "waht the?!" could have been written easier

[rare hornet]

Oh yeah these new cards are awfully written at times

Like the deathwatch being able to do up to 44 MW in a shooting phase because nobody proof read anything

[jaunty trail]

sounds like an attorney has written the rules

[jaunty trail]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-heck-excuse-me-what-gif-11962934

[rare hornet]

Stratagem that lets up to 2 killteams have anti infantry 2+

[jaunty trail]

ouchy?

[rare hornet]

Which means 2s to would is a crit. Deathwatch bolt guns do mortal wounds on a critical

[jaunty trail]

Hmmm 🤔

When i have done my votann army i might get some additional deathwatch XD

[rare hornet]

And a certain killteam allows for 3 terminators with assault cannons, which also do mortal wounds on a critical

[jaunty trail]

ye i saw that sick squad

[rare hornet]

10 isn’t even out and the balance is already borked

[jaunty trail]

But still happy that i got the leviathan box... The marines in it will make good new BT Knights XD

But still thinking 'bout what to do with the psyker model... Maybe i exchange it for something with a friend that plays Dark Angels/Fallen

[plush swift]

just a reminder, dont drink paint

even if you are really thirsty

[celest zealot]

Test model for the space marines I want to run in 10th

[woeful vale]

Detail work with a starter brush feels like I'm doing needlework It's sloppy as hell There's not much of a margin for error but damn it is fun

[celest zealot]

It Does take a lot of time and practice

Nothing wrong with touching up your mistakes though

Gods know I have to do it a ton on my chaos marines

[sudden notch]

I need to paint at least one ultramarine kill team

[woeful vale]

There was definitely a Galaxy brain moment though when I first applied retributor armor to the imperialis and saw the contrast 😍

[plain granite]

Finished shading some characters and my first vehicle! Though the pushfit for it was not so great.

[tender ocean]

For the khan brothers

[celest zealot]

good stuff

[simple thorn]

Gotta say, some of the off-brand models are fun to paint

[unkempt iris]

I'm trying to decide if I should get into tabletop with 10e, but my main concern is probably cost, the likelihood that I wont like it and waste my money, or a lack of people to play with where I live, what do you guys think?

[uneven crystal]

Have you ever tried heroin? Because if youve tried heroin and thought hey maybe I should try fentanyl. Then youre probably good.

[jaunty trail]

Try the Tabletop versions at a local warhammer store then u can decide

[unkempt iris]

Are rules for 10e fully out that, or do those come out when leviathan releases, cause I'd be interested to see the rules changes

[unkempt iris]

Gotta say, I have not tried heroin

[edgy jackal]

You can always try it on tabletop simulator if you're trying it out purely for the game of 40k. There are also other aspects, like the painting and collecting. Points costs aren't out yet for 10th, so you can't run a game of it yet.

[uneven crystal]

Ignore me i am a filthy slaanesh worshipper

[edgy jackal]

As for your local community, only you can be the judge of that.

[unkempt iris]

I'm mostly in it for the game, the collection aspect I dont really have the time nor the money, nor the (I already have enough creative hobbies I've started but never finished)

[jaunty trail]

Combat Patrol should be possible cuz Battle Patrol Box = Army that is played.

[edgy jackal]

Yeah, fair enough. In any case then, my top 2 suggestions would be either grey knight combat patrol or custodes combat patrol, if you're buying a starting kit. Easy to paint, lots of points for the money you spend, only downside is the fairly elite nature of the armies. In any case, I'd suggest asking around in your local 40k community.

[unkempt iris]

I was considering combat patrol, but that would require the opponent to have a army which limits the people I can play with considerably, I hadnt thought of tabletop sim though to try it out, I might have to do that

Part of what I liked about the idea of buying leviathan is it would allow me to play with anyone willing to attempt it since it already has two armies and (supposedly) has decent replay value

but it is quite expensive, although it might be worth it for what you get, idk

[sterile grail]

accidentally drank the whole bottle. I'm feeling dizzy.

[plush swift]

guys....

[unkempt iris]

Oopsies

better call posion control

[plush swift]

I stripped the finished knight parts I had

because I got sick of people complaining about it not being nmm

I fucking hate nmm

but I need to use it it seems

[sterile grail]

So i slipped right? and somehow the bottle landed on my hand. Then i fell upside down. Conveniently, the bottle chucked into my mouth and i drank a good chunk of it.

[plush swift]

why do mini painters obsess about it so much

its not even high skill, its day one art school

[sterile grail]

its probably preference i suppose. They shouldnt dictate how you paint though. That's wrong

[plush swift]

it shouldnt

but its for advertisement purposes

for my portfolio