40k-minis-and-armies

[lavish crescent]

Heres a question: has anyone tried to convert the rough riders to death riders yet?

[latent sierra]

Does the new 9th edition daemons of chaos book even have plague toad data sheet?

[lavish crescent]

Maybe??

Also hello fellow guy -_-

[edgy jackal]

Neat. I should make some sandbag molds for myself.

[midnight locust]

I’ve seen videos of Cadian conversion for rough riders. From what I can tell it’s just a head and palette swap

[dusty nimbus]

I saw one with a head swap

And added muzzle gas masks

The skitarii cavalry have some gas mask looking thing that the person borrowed if I remember

[lavish crescent]

Did one last night, just need to gap fill but damn does it look decent

Torso and head off veteran guard and the rest is riders

Shoulders kinda match the krieg shoulders

Removed the little bag on the bottom of the backpack because it was clipping with the already bag on the horse

No gas mask on the horse yet but on probably gonna use green stiff to do that

Had to sand down the waist on both for an okay fit but I couldn't get it flat

[rare hornet]

fun fact: As rules are written, there is no way for a space marine company to get a redemptor class dreadnought off of the strike cruiser

they are not allowed in drop pods, and the only transports which can carry a dread, can't carry redemptors

[naive umbra]

They are the drop pod

[rare hornet]

they just orbital elbow drop onto the planet

[naive umbra]

But sometimes when they land on their back they need some help getting up, like a turtle

[glossy hawk]

I’m saving this because it’s a prime example of doing highlights and the GW style properly

[plush swift]

paint is a thermoplastic, the heat from your hands causes damage to it. If you want more info on this I can give you a lot, I literally make acrylics for artists as part of my job. Also thinning your paint destroys the binder in it, not to mention hobby paints have a lot of fillers like chalk, which dont help. Also primer doesnt help with adherence at all or durability at all(unless you ditch all hobby products and go with the high end professional stuff), i can provide proof of this.

[glossy hawk]

@plush swift do you have a specific varnish spray you’d use for miniatures

[plush swift]

Yes, KMS Diamond, but my most common cheap one is automotive gloss varnish

both can also go over oil paint, unlike normal ones

[glossy hawk]

Sick, tysm as usual starch

[midnight locust]

Highlights are definitely good, just something I haven’t mastered and after working on a few guard doesn’t quite work with the style I’m going for. Might be the color I’m working with or might just be I don’t like the GW clean look.

Edit: OP is really good at highlighting

[white tangle]

Ty, that means a lot ❤️

[jagged sparrow]

Has anyone said “dRiLl YoUr BaReLl”

Also the highlighting and overall paint job

Absolutely outstanding

[tiny jay]

I've had pretty good luck with the Rustoleum matte clear as a protective layer and doesn't seem to alter the look at all.

[edgy jackal]

Picking up minis by the base probably helps too

[agile seal]

Played a Horus Heresy game yesterday

Custodes & Ultramarines vs Nightlords & Deathguard

Hard fought, but Custodes & Ultramarines took the dub in the end

[compact umbra]

I can’t be the only one who thought this model was terrible because GW painted it terribly

https://i0.wp.com/wargameexplorer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/White-Scars-HQ.png?resize=572%2C634&ssl=1

I thought it was an old model I couldn’t tell 💀

Like; he looks off to me

maybe because he actually has theming

[glossy hawk]

Bro where the hell are you playing

[agile seal]

What do you mean

[glossy hawk]

It looks like a warehouse LOL

[agile seal]

Yeah lmao

[glossy hawk]

LOL

[agile seal]

Its a hpbbytown thay mostly caters to rc cars

But they have a gaming space

You have to like navigate into the back and its a wierd plywood gaming location

Really givea nerds in the basement vibes

[agile seal]

Custodes + Ultramarines vs Deathguard + Night lords

The sons of nostramo fought hard, as did the warriors of Barbarus, but ultimately the golden tide simply did not care, and the Custodes + Scions of the 500 worlds took the victory

A few highlights form the game was a knight questoris sneaking around the table to flank the loyalist forces, Sevatar running like the coward he is away from the oncoming 15 custodians + valdor, and then sevatar's survival instincts proving reliable as valdor bodied a leviathan siege dreadnaught (with a little help form his friends) followed by mortarion himself (also with a bit of help from his friends)

Valdor coming up to the midfight with a steel chair, and sevatar promptly running like a bitch was quite comedic

[plush swift]

Doesn't have as good durability compared to gloss.

[tiny jay]

Might not, but if you don't want the added shine its pgood.

Its the only clear I've found that doesn't add a significant surface sheen that catches light. I used the same clear when I was rattle-canning some of my rifles before I got back into painting minis.

[sudden notch]

I love that toppled over tank

Custodians just walked up to it and threw it in the air

[agile seal]

I love how good my enemies tanks are at giving me cover after i hit them with a couple melta bombs

[sudden notch]

Id rather think custodian flexed his muscles and tank fainted from the glow

[brisk vapor]

This really be the best tone of green

[plush swift]

You can put matte over it... My entire thing was talking about durability including against being hit, sheen was completely irrelevant

[tiny jay]

I've never tried doing a gloss coat before the matte clear, would be worth it if it doesn't hang too heavy in the details and add a visibly thick layer. Esp on an army thats getting heavy tabletob use.

[midnight locust]

Anyone have good suggestions on sanding tools? (Sand paper/nail filers?)

[tiny jay]

I just get bulk packs of sanding twigs/rods. If I need anything larger I cut off some larger garnet or wet & dry pads and wrap them around a wooden ruler or something.

Though I probably get more use out of extra hobby knife blades when it comes to cleaning flash.

[upbeat hearth]

Noted. I mostly have issues on raised areas and sharp edges like rivets and the edge of panels on tanks

[plush swift]

800 and 1200 grit sand paper, i personally use 2000 a lot though, lower than 800 and its easy to damage the model ive found and those micro scratches can get me docked points at painting comps. I also have a pair of f.dick swiss cut 5 needle files which are wonderful, but expensive.

[midnight locust]

Thanks the both of you. Working on refining my models. Can get it down mostly but a bit worried about flubbing it and getting into the actual model

[plush swift]

mistakes are where the art is actually, perfection is a myth

[tiny jay]

Also yeah, needle files are nice.

[plush swift]

yeah, you'll need to varnish with automotive varnish if you want durability. normal varnishes dont actually give any durability towards physical touching, they are to prevent chemicals from destroying the paint during cleaning

[tiny jay]

Also if your using the Rustoleum matte clear. They do a cheaper version that has less resin and doesn't dry as hard.

As I said, I've had good results with that, I'll probably see how it looks over a gloss clear later.

[jaunty trail]

98% done... some adjustments have to be done but i'm very happy how the repainting turns out

[teal wolf]

Oh she lookin cute

[jaunty trail]

Thanks! Took me literally a ton of time and nerves to get this result. I think the tiny parts (like helmet, fuel tank and mounted chainsawsord with scabbard) and the dust/dirt makes it more alive

[wispy zinc]

c'est qui, lui ?

[compact umbra]

Kor'sarro Khan

[jaunty trail]

Seems to be the Khan or some important White Scars Captain?

[compact umbra]

He’s the chapter master

Well ‘the master of the hunt’

Same thing

[wispy zinc]

do you have the GW painted version to compare ?

[compact umbra]

That is the GW version

Lmao

[jaunty trail]

😂

[compact umbra]

maybe it’s that his skin is so grey

[plush swift]

GW isnt very good at painting though

[compact umbra]

Like; there’s nothing wrong with it, but it looks incorrect

It looks like they shoved him in a desaturation filter

[jaunty trail]

GW White isn't a good paint tbh... only the old white scars air is fine...

[teal wolf]

I had an old citadel pot of skull white dry up on me, was heartbroken. Tamiya XF-2 flat white has been just as good tho

[pine yacht]

Oh dude... I got an airbrush too you gotta tell me the process of getting that look

[rare hornet]

Almost done with them

[compact umbra]

saddage that csm dont get upgrade sprues

every day that fact saddens me

[jaunty trail]

Absolute dope!

[compact umbra]

Fuck yeah tahts nice!

[rare hornet]

Thank you!! ^^

[tiny jay]

Got bored and cleaned up the phobos marines from Kill Team Moroch, I was gonna go raptors but I'm strongly leaning toward doing 7th company Salamanders

[jaunty trail]

Salamanders are a dope chapter ^^

[tiny jay]

I'm buiding Moebian traitor guard atm. But I kind of want to do something with the marines from the box.

So I thought some Infiltrators with like, hide cloaks and stuff could be cool.

• Doing some volcanic ash covered bases is easy and I can practice glow effects maybe with some lava cracks.

Also, no human skin to paint.

[jaunty trail]

The lava/mine setting is something that is planned for my votann... but before i start this i need some glow in the dark crystals from greenstuff world

[tiny jay]

That sounds pretty cool.

I like the aesthetic of the LoV, just trying not to buy all the things XD I already really wanted to bite the bullet on the Farstalker Kinband KT

[agile seal]

i would like to know
who the hell complained about bringing too many books to 40k games

[tiny jay]

?

[agile seal]

40k players bringing a codex and core book to a 40k game
(this is too much to handle)

[jaunty trail]

xD

I got last year a LoV Starter Army box as a gift. But currently im doin' my Black Templars stuff i git before... There i do more desert style bases cuz it fits the "crusade" thing ^^

[agile seal]

been stepping thru the 10th ed prerelease stuff and they cited peopleing having to bring too many books as a commen complaint

[tiny jay]

Ah

[jaunty trail]

Dunno' where the problem is. Even with the 40k app where u can save your books codes in so that you have it digital...

[rare hornet]

I kinda like having the books infront of me

[jaunty trail]

Good thing i don't have to think about 10th edition now cuz' my friends want to play 9th edition rules xD

[jaunty trail]

This is absolute legit but still there are not tons of books needed to play in my eyes

[rare hornet]

10th seems interesting

[rare hornet]

But I’ve bought all the books for 9th just in case me and friends decide to stay in 9th

All the books I need I should say

[jaunty trail]

In fact i won't play in official stores or on tournaments. Only with friends and i just build and paint mainly for the fun of building and painting... so i can relax xD

[tiny jay]

I had some Basilisks (well, one Medusa one Basilisk) left over from an old attempt at a Heresy Era Loyalist Death Guard army. (sold all the marines)

So I already went deep into stuff for my Moebians.

I picked up:

Kill Team Moroch
The Into the Dark Terrain
Extra Blooded box
Cadia Stands
3x GBD's
And two sets of the Renegade Ogryn with hounds.

Also ordered some bits form stationforge and I've had a buddy 3D print me some Regular guard lasguns with hands so hopefully I can remove the Lucius lasguns from some of the blooded models.

[jaunty trail]

sounds nice

[tiny jay]

The Lucius lasguns just feel more Vraks/Kreig to me.

[jaunty trail]

yeah... i love the kriegers... but i won't do a 3rd army.... not enough space and girlfriend already has SoB so when done there will be more than one shelve full of minis xD

[tiny jay]

Yeah I'm waiting on my SO to decide what kill team she wants to go with.

[jaunty trail]

🤣

decisions that have to be made...

^^

[tiny jay]

IDK if I'll ever get many games in with the full Moebian army but its more just a personal hobby at this point. My closest conveneint GW store is run by a complete douche canoe so it'll be friendly games with a few of my friends more than anything.

I prefer Kill Team as its relatively quick.

But I'm not in a hurry and I want to try and do a little bit of conversion on most of the models. Even if its just weapon swaps on the blooded with some more spikes.

[jaunty trail]

My BT Army is near to be ready.. Then i will start a narrative crusade with some friends in private... My "Tannhus Crusade" will have it's first testing run on saturday... Could be that i have to fight the Astra Militarum or SoB but this will be okay cuz it's only a training maneuver

[tiny jay]

Not sure what I'm gonna do with the Ogryn besides maybe converting one from one of my Blooded boxes to a Plague Ogryn.

Setting one up on a large base as a Proxy for a Heavy Weapons team could be cool.

I'm holding off on putting much together till the new rules come out though. Outside making the stuff for my kill Team

Either new IG rules or actual Traitor Guard rules.

[jaunty trail]

This is a thing i'm thinking about...just to work a bit on my skills and use magnetized minis in future... then i could fast exchange parts... but still not sure if i do cuz its more the building and painting for me

[tiny jay]

I plan to magnetize the HWT's from Cadia Stands.

IDK if I'm gonna keep the Sentinel.

[jaunty trail]

Sentinels are underestimated atm... friend of mine showed me some battle reports where IG with bigger numbers of Sentinels have beaten out anything of their enemies...

[tiny jay]

I mean, I only got the one that came with Cadia Stands.

Might be able to trade it/sell it though.

[grand ocean]

I used to have fun in 3rd edition with catachans. 3 sentinels, a basilisk, a heavy weapons squad and lots of infantry was a fun time.

[tiny jay]

Catachans would be fun, though I'd want to like, heavily cammo their arms and faces instead of the GW style look.

[jaunty trail]

Thats the neat part.. u can paint them how you want ^^

[shy sedge]

close to completing this intercession team

[jaunty trail]

last time i spoke to some GW vendors they said to me only "limitation" is that max. 30% of the mini may be proxed with other parts.... so do as you want ^^

[jaunty trail]

Looks nice, face is very cool!

[shy sedge]

my first time doing faces

[tiny jay]

Like I said, my local GW store is run by a clown so I won't be playing there. So it'll be at either non-GW game stores or just friendly games.

[shy sedge]

it's just flayed one flesh base, guilliman flesh contrast then flayed one dry brush

[jaunty trail]

You do better than i ever will xD

[shy sedge]

I only used 2 paints

[jaunty trail]

I always manage to f*** those faces up in some way XD

[tiny jay]

Yeah I'm putting helmets and masks on everything XD

I want like, a sea of green glowing eyes.

[shy sedge]

this was my test model he's p much complete

[tiny jay]

That image was what really sold me on them.

[jaunty trail]

My tip get some "glow in the dark" green paints... will work fine and look dope af

[shy sedge]

I just got some UV glow pigments

was going to use it on my necrons

[tiny jay]

its something I want to try, yeah.

[shy sedge]

u can mix with water to make it like a paint too

[jaunty trail]

Next paints i will get are some different contrast paints ^^

[shy sedge]

yea contrast is really nice

this guilliman flesh worked well

black templar is great

[plush swift]

you should try holbein opaque white ink. You'll chuck your hobby products out after using it

[plush swift]

not how UV glow pigments work, you cant just do that. before using UV glow pigments, remember that are actually fairly toxic so dont even open the bottle without a respirator on, also because they are dyed polymer particles, expect a max of 6 months before they start fading but.... Here is the recipe you need for them

100 grams Paint medium(highly recommend Kremer K498 for these)
30-40 grams pigment. Any higher, the binder will not support it and it will flake off, lower the pigment load if you arent using a high end medium.
.5% wetting agent(this can be oxgall or orotan, without it the paint will not work well. Golden wetting aid however is easy to get online, but increase that to .6%. Do not go higher)
.1-.3% biocide, bidocarb is reliably easy to find, this is required as the bacteria will discolor the paint after a few weeks if not cause it to flake off
Add deionized water as needed. This needs to be deionized water as normal tap or filtered water has minerals in it that will cause pH imbalances with the UV pigment that can cause more issues down the road. Distilled can be fine, but try to find the stuff for cpap machines at least.
Put on a magnetic stir plate for 10-20 hours

Preparation:
Grind the pigment in a mortar and pestle for 6-12 hours, its a polymer particle, they are very large.

[true path]

These are the two already completed models I purchased used. I'm currently building the rest of my knights army.

[plush swift]

Dude on the left looks ancient with that greenery, or is it just camo? Cool either way

[sage matrix]

So I’m super pumped, just won this in the black library giveaway 😁😁😁

Awesome poster signed by the author! And I was one of the 10 baby 👌👌

[glossy hawk]

SIIICK

[compact umbra]

I’ve been thinking about getting white scars tbh! How was it to paint the lighting strikes

[brisk vapor]

Pretty much this tutorial but I just pushed the contrast a bit further with brushwork using vallejo green sky https://youtu.be/7FXebYWB6T0

[pine yacht]

love how that thing looks

thanks

[brisk vapor]

no problem

[shy sedge]

it's not so hard, plot out the lines with white first then put a dot in at each point and paint the straight lines

just take your time

[true path]

Yi I love that about him

[lavish crescent]

Got 2 of 5 custom death riders. Its going pretty good tbh, abit or gap filling around the waist but other than that. It looks good and goes together easily

[teal wolf]

Give one a random guardian spear

[midnight locust]

Any tips on adding transfers to small guard shoulder pads?

[jovial siren]

water, patience and work with a damp brush

and patience

[rare hornet]

Cut the transfer you want out, make sure to give yourself a little part to hold the actual card, let it sit in a bowl of water for about 10-20 seconds then you want to pick it up and hold it next to the place you need it then use a brush to slide it off. (Because it’s still wet you can use the brush to gently adjust where it is from there)

[deft fable]

Damn that's sick af

[white tangle]

I need help with brushes. You know how synth brushes have like a hook at the end after using them for a while? Anyone used a sable brush? Do sable brushes curve as well?

[brisk vapor]

Synth brushes seem to be more likely to do that but if you leave your brushes bristles down in the paint water cup for example will easily cause that to any brush

[midnight locust]

I’m guessing a dry brush yeah?

Also for Leman Russes is it worth investing in an airbrush

[sudden notch]

I am proud of this one

[jovial siren]

But it looks like you missed some parts around the plasma gun "barrel"

[sudden notch]

Matbe need to revisit that but otherwise i think its pretty decent

[jovial siren]

it is, yep

[sudden notch]

I like i managed to get chain and linings on armour okayish

[rare hornet]

Any brush works really

You’re just using it to move the transfer

[midnight locust]

Any tips on getting it to curve with the surface?

Managed this but the other two I didn’t turn out as good

[lilac moth]

is that barbed wire some bought kit or selfmade?

[midnight locust]

Bought it off of Army Painter

Pretty cheap and looks good

[glossy hawk]

My friends first mechanicus mini

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005570026348220537/1090059995934105684/20230327_194238.jpg
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005570026348220537/1090059995598573719/20230327_194232.jpg
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005570026348220537/1090059995275599893/20230327_194224.jpg

[jovial siren]

Cool Idea with the wire , I wonder if I can do some DIY work with some springs or something

[glossy hawk]

You’d have to sufficiently mangle it

[lavish crescent]

Get thick springs and maybe uncoil them slightly. After which you can glue them down

[glossy hawk]

Dunno how you’d get the actual barbs on them

[lavish crescent]

And smaller gauge of wire around it

[glossy hawk]

slivers of plastic from a sprue maybe
Solid ones

[lavish crescent]

Don’t have too at small scale, just wrap wire around wire

When at such a small scale dont worry about that much detail. its okay to get it to kinda look like it. Plus you should be looking at the model not the base really

[glossy hawk]

👍

[midnight locust]

Wrap it around the end of a brush to shape it

[lavish crescent]

yep

nothing massive is needed for a base

[midnight locust]

Just the little things bring the model together

[white tangle]

Did you do that with a brush?

[brisk vapor]

airbrush and brush

[white tangle]

I've never done any blending so that looks insane to me.

[tiny jay]

Kind of taking this approach with my Moebians. Bought a bunch of the necromunda bases and might just add some defaced imperial bits to them. Broken Aquila’s/servo skulls, burnt flags etc. maybe some bits of wall spray painted with nurgle’s mark.

[brisk vapor]

thanks, it really just needs very thin paint and not too much on the brush so you can gradually work on the blend

[midnight locust]

To clean up excess wash (while still wet) a q-tip should do the trick right?

[mellow bridge]

Dude is really looking good

[midnight locust]

Thanks. It took far too long to get that decal in the right orientation

[chilly summit]

This is the tutorial I follow for decals and transfer sheets.

https://youtu.be/Y2N9PTCsuJw

[midnight locust]

Thanks, that’ll do

Wish guard had more regiment numbers

[strong star]

a rubric marine

[midnight locust]

Uh… a Sentinel

[copper siren]

Necron Plasmacyte

[agile seal]

An allarus terminator ... Atleast my death will be instant

[patent bramble]

Knight abominant

[orchid seal]

Angron…

[agile seal]

Rip

[orchid seal]

God-Emperor help me

[pliant kite]

Stormcast Lord Relictor.. could be worse but my place is 9m2, it's gonna get cramped quick

[tiny jay]

Erm... a Hero Quest chest, 3 of them infact.

I guess I'll have plenty of storage.

[glossy hawk]

GENESTEALER.

No, wait
Glory to the cult

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-genestealer-warhammer40k-genestealer-cults-big-brain-gif-26982823

[tiny jay]

I do like the concept of GSC

Just wish they had better models, exept for the big guys, they look dope.

[tiny jay]

So the SO is heavily leaning toward Khornite Sororitas XD

[agile seal]

Blood for the emperor! Skulls for the terran throne!

[tiny jay]

I think Pete the Wargamer's vid on the kitbashed corrupted Sororitas was the main reason.

We're thinking about trying an red resin coat base with some skulls and the odd bit of rubble to make them look like they're walking through blood.

More or less

[tiny jay]

IDK if we're just gonna use Sororitas rules.

The faith-related abilities and rules can easily be re-flavored to be chaos blessings.

[cedar delta]

My Master of Possession. First time painting (warp)flames too

[tiny jay]

Maan that looks sick.

[cedar delta]

Thanks 🥰

[jagged sparrow]

Damn that’s good

[left egret]

A little help... should I paint my deimos rhino as Iron Warriors or World eaters?

Iron warriors is my main army but the eaters of worlds are the legion that I fell in love with first

Let's make it a poll

[jagged sparrow]

I vote necrons

[left egret]

I'll mark that as a vote for warsmith honsou

[brisk vapor]

Tiny bit of progress tonight

[midnight locust]

The new models are very cool

[jagged sparrow]

Holy fuck that’s good

[sage matrix]

Started painting mr invocatus himself

[midnight locust]

This helped a lot. Got them where in relatively happy with it

[chilly summit]

Nice. Just remember that you can use a fair amount of pressure with the paper towel to squeeze out any air bubbles from under the decal.

[midnight locust]

Duly noted. Thanks for the advice

[grizzled jolt]

Meet commissar Gallus and Bone head Biff.

Got around to painting my first commissar, I have yet to figure out where this model comes from but it was obviously hand sculpted (and is a recast).

[naive umbra]

Ghostkeel pilot. He has no legs, so I should be safe.

[brisk vapor]

Cheers!

[midnight locust]

Hey if say I want to weather the decals, what would you recommend

[chilly summit]

Use a bit of sponge and tweezers to lightly stipple on grey or silver paint for new weathering. Rust colored paint for old weathering. Alternate to sponge is a ripped bit of foam from the finecast packaging. Can ignore the rest of the linked video if it's too polarizing. There's still good painting tips in it.

https://youtu.be/nrxY6NGWS28?t=324

[chilly summit]

This shows how you can paint over the decals to blend them in if you want. First a layer of the matte medium, let dry, then paint as if it's a normal surface.

https://youtu.be/sPENXIKosJc?t=384

[summer delta]

So, I decided to Kitbash a Darktide Inspired Inquisition Warband

[coarse badger]

What model is that Psyker?

and will they get painted? They look awesome

[summer delta]

The new IG Primaris Psyker model!

[summer delta]

Yes, they will get painted!

[coarse badger]

Wait the Primaris Psyker got updated

[summer delta]

Yeap

[coarse badger]

Damn didn't even notice

[coarse badger]

In tasty black and red I hope!

[dark violet]

You gonna paint em like the soldiers in darktide?

[summer delta]

Yeap!

[dark violet]

Was gonna ask that

[summer delta]

The idea is each operative is at different level of Trust, so the more important they are, the more black they will get

Ok, that sounded wrong

[dark violet]

Pff

[summer delta]

The more important they are, the more black will adorn their uniforms

[coarse badger]

I assume the most used kits were Kasrkin and the Cadian squad

[summer delta]

Yeah

[coarse badger]

I see command squad and krieg bits there too

[summer delta]

There we're also Palanite bits, some House Orlock bits, Cadian Upgrade Sprue bits, and 4 extra models, the Psyker, the Sister Novitiate Superior, Ogryn, and Cadian Castellan

[proven marsh]

@summer delta love these

[tiny jay]

The pile of shame grows. Novitiate Kill Team, Death Cult assassins and a Hospitaler and Celestine ordered XD And I might be able to trade Celestine's wings if I can remove them carefully (if they're attatched to the back) for some Demon Prince Wings.

[dark violet]

Give me celestine

Now

[tiny jay]

Saint Carmina, bride of Khorne.

Might try to get some smaller demon wings for her bodyguards. Instead of chos-ing up the jump packs.

Atleast the new sister's models are fairly light on the imperial details, lots of super clean armor panels. Just need to scrape off the Fleur de Lys and the shoulder pads mostly and clip off the inquisition rosettes.

[teal wolf]

Trade ya for an eliminator squad xD

[tiny jay]

Not that I'm thinking about entering this into any tourneys, but would it be considered modelling for advantage if Seraphim were mounted lower on the base (still elevated well above most infantry) than the clear plastic flier stand mounts them?

I think my GBD's are lower than their flier stands too.

[teal wolf]

I put my Celestine on a different support.
Did not trust actual paper lol

[tiny jay]

Celestine won't be a problem, I've ordered some little skull beads. Gonna just fill the little holes and make a mountain of skulls for her to stand on.

[agile seal]

no

9e doesn't use visual confermation for LoS

it uses base to base measurements

10e will likely do the same

this means you can model the upside down and off the base

[tiny jay]

Fair.

[agile seal]

but they will still not be modled for advantage or disadvantage

[tiny jay]

I know my local games store (non GW) is pretty chill, but any GW store I play at will be a significant drive away. So If I do end up trying to play at a GW store I atleast want all our models to not have glaring issues.

So atleast the Moebians and Chaos Sororitas can use their Imperium army rules.

[agile seal]

I would avoid gaming at GW stores

just

alltogether

if you can

[tiny jay]

My local GW store is run by an asshole.

I won't play there.

But I know someone who runs a store on the other side of the city thats pretty chill.

[agile seal]

GW stores in general are nder very strict rules

so lie

[tiny jay]

Well 'Runs' he's one of the managers.

[agile seal]

they have a number of tables / sq foot they are allowed to use

and a certain number of tables have to be set aside for displayes

etc etc

generally

in your average gw store

theres like 1 free table

and it's purpose is to use your game as advertising for the product on the wall

(hence why they are so strict on everything being GW plastic)

[tiny jay]

I know most are, yeah.

[agile seal]

they all are, stores are allowed very little individual freedom

I game with a guy for HH that used to run a GW store

I generally give them a wide berth

[tiny jay]

I realise that, but I know the managers at this store try their best to work within those guidelines.

They have to say something if you show up with a mostly 3d printed army. But if you've got a few models mixed in the do their best to turn a blind eye. They just ask that people who bring printed gear still have GW stuff and keep it painted.

[agile seal]

ye

like

individual owners aren't bad

i just don't like the environment of a GW store

VS a normal LGS

or even a chain LGS like hobby town

[tiny jay]

Yeah, my LGS is decent-ish.

[agile seal]

I generally don't liek the vibe at a GW store of feeling like a piece of the advertising

[tiny jay]

Like they specifically have a table open for 2 games of kill team.

[agile seal]

vs at a normal LGS, where I am still a piece of advertising

but i atleast feel like i'm not lol

[tiny jay]

Yeah, fair.

RN just modelling and collecting what we actually like over whats playable. With Kill Team as a base.

And preparing for 10th. Before we start planning a larger army.

[agile seal]

it's a difference of the gaming table being front and center to the room like a GW store, vs the gaming table being out of the way of the shopping area

[tiny jay]

Boarding Party looks interesting, but I don't like the idea of fixed lists.

[agile seal]

Man I loved KT when it came out

[agile seal]

your list isn't fixed

[tiny jay]

Didn't they say you'd be limited to whats in the box? or something like that?

[agile seal]

you can bring anything up to 500 points so long as it doesn't have the vehicle or monster eyword

[agile seal]

nah, those boxes are just really good boarding parties lol

[tiny jay]

Ah

[agile seal]

the

new combat patrol format

[tiny jay]

I was just hearing about it form one of the Auspex Tactics vids.

[agile seal]

will be exclusively a combat patrol vs another combat patrol

[agile seal]

auspec tactics is right about 70% of the time

i'd recommend factchecking everything he say

[tiny jay]

Fair, I wasn't really paying attention to if it was confirmed or not.

But yeah, I'd like a longer game than KT21 but not a full on 40k game.

[wooden pier]

My new Blessed Astartes are quite big boys.

[agile seal]

thats what theyre plannign for combat patrol

[agile seal]

my brother in emperor, that aint blessed

[tiny jay]

Vblessed

[wooden pier]

Sure are blessed from top to toe!

[tiny jay]

I think part of it is because if I build out a large army, it'll be my Moebians. Which means lots of models and lots of shooting.

So so like, I feel its on me as a player to be able to rectify all the shooting and movement fairly quickly so the game moves quicker.

I've been a fly on the wall for some glacially slow IG games.

This was like, 12 years ago mind, so I'm nut sure how much quicker/slower 9th/10th ed will play.

[agile seal]

IG games are still slow

but like

thats what you expect going against IG

and IG games get

much faster over time

like your T1 is egregious

and then your t2 your down to half the models

but have still only lost like half a point

even more so if you go second

also alot of things that slowed ig down are gone

like blast templates

[tiny jay]

I haven't even figured out where I'm at points wise yet.

GW models alone I've got the 20 cadians from CS and 20 blooded from Moroch + an additional box. The 2 HWT's from CS and a pair of Basilisks (1 medusa)

Oh and the Sentinel.

Other than that, I've got FA in the form of some GBD's and Hounds.

And probably enough Ogryn to form some kind of Ogryn Squad.

[agile seal]

i don't keep up to date on points

[tiny jay]

I should be able to make 500pts without the Basilisks though.

[agile seal]

prolly

if you have the CS box thats like

500+ pts

[tiny jay]

if I need an extra Heavy Weapons team I've toyed with the idea of doing an Ogryn proxy as one.

Suitable base ofc. WIth a trooper helping out.

But yeah, I didn't realise LOS was taken out of newer editions. Makes accusations of modelling for advantage limited to like, trying to be confusing for your opponent I guess.

Or using the wrong base size.

[tiny jay]

btw, how did OG kill team feel vs KT21?

I've been having fun with KT21 so far, just not sure how the fixed lists feel balance wise vs being able to make your own.

[agile seal]

i should have been more clear, i meant kt2

i never played kt 1

[tiny jay]

AH

[agile seal]

because custodes were

litteraly unplayable

[proven marsh]

@tiny jay tbh I haven't kept up with 40k to even know what is what. I have enough mobians for a Kill Team. Maybe when 10th drops I'll have another look.. Still have a bunch of renegades in the attic..

[tiny jay]

the old FW renegades? nice

[proven marsh]

Haha I wish

Enthusiastic conversions though

I do have a few of the fw ogryns tho

[dark violet]

I give you a single cyber cherub

[tiny jay]

I'm trying to keep my Moebians to Scab or Nurgle models. One exception is the mutant.

The mutant obviously being a cult of admonition creation, with the Yellow hood.

[proven marsh]

Yeah.

[tiny jay]

Definitely turning one of the Blooded Ogryns into a Plague Ogryn though.

So the Hounds, Plague Ogryn and Greater Blight Drones will make up the truly Chaos warped bits of the army.

[rare hornet]

Counter deal! I’ll give you all of my empty sprues for it

[teal wolf]

You'd trade your snacks!?

[rare hornet]

Y E S

[teal wolf]

Hmmm she has just sat in a box for years..

[teal wolf]

Cherubs terrify me

[rare hornet]

We all know the feeling, my box of minis across the room is staring at me disapprovingly

It is my sleep paralysis demon

[teal wolf]

She's painted. Just looks bad

[proven marsh]

I may have forked out for plague ogryns.

Even though the models don't entertain me...

[teal wolf]

Omg just found a pic of a cursed mini I forgot I own

[proven marsh]

Resisted getting the FW daemon Prince just to convert the leaked alt ogryn enemy.

[tiny jay]

I'm on the fence.

[rare hornet]

You heretics best watch the fuck out, Kenneth’s had enough of your shit

[rare hornet]

That is the most blursed thing I’ve seen

[teal wolf]

What if I told you there's 5 of em floating around...

[rare hornet]

[tiny jay]

Scale is a bit big though, compared to regular ogryn.

[teal wolf]

Aw man found pics of my old Raven guard force 😭

[proven marsh]

@tiny jay yeah.. and I'd only really want the arm and maybe pack back..

Better to convert something that looks the same I think...

[tiny jay]

Wouldn't be too hard to make the gun though.

[proven marsh]

Cracking model tho..

[rare hornet]

Show us

[rare hornet]

Sad dreadnought noises

[tiny jay]

Strongly considering these for Poxwalkers instead of the GW stuff too.

[teal wolf]

I may just have to do some more ravens with the 10th ed box

[steady dune]

on that salvar chem dogs shit

[brazen notch]

Even got white colours on the Raven Guard Dread, now thats good attention to detail

[brazen notch]

👍

[teal wolf]

Thanks boss! Was all about the silly uniform details.

[tiny jay]

Also, I really wish they'd just given the Blooded KT regular guard lasguns instead of making them slightly different copies of the Blackstone Fortress renegade Vraks militia.

[lavish crescent]

Burn it

Just burn it

[shy sedge]

made some more progress

[simple thorn]

Now do one doing the California Girls dance
also I hate this, take the +1

[teal wolf]

A friend made 5 and gave em out lol

[simple thorn]

I saw.
Have him make 5 more doing the California Girls dance

PUNISH HIM FOR HIS INSOLENCE
and maybe pay him if he takes cash for such requests

[teal wolf]

He's got a few that are hiding from their own plasma guns

[rare hornet]

The marines of power

[midnight locust]

So I have my normal Cadian fatigues (khaki and green) as the paint scheme for my guard. Am I stuck to using the 8th as a regiment number or can I use whatever regiment transfer?

[teal wolf]

Killteam shitpost

[simple thorn]

Like this ol' gold?

[teal wolf]

Yes!!!

Just on the kneeling legs

[naive umbra]

Damn now I gotta make one of my crisis suits dab

[teal wolf]

Have it standing on a kill lol

[naive umbra]

Nah I'm building these ones in flight, so he gonna hover dab

[teal wolf]

Hell ya lol

[jovial siren]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understand-i-got-it-i-know-gif-22069086

[tiny jay]

🤣

[white tangle]

Hey, how long does it take for you guys to base coat something?

like a space marine for example?

[rare hornet]

With a spray can? Can get like 5 marines done in about 5 minutes

Spend more time setting it up and shaking the damn thing

[white tangle]

There is no spray can for Eshin gray :(.

It just feels like half of my painting process for me is just base coating. This can take several hours for one miniature.

Im just curious if im doing something wrong or if i should just invest in a airbrush

[lavish crescent]

Depends on the size

If you don't care about details, just get a decently sized brush and go HAM

Remember to thin your paints!

[rare hornet]

So is eshin grey your main colour?

[white tangle]

Yeah

[rare hornet]

Well yeah then what you wanna do is water it down a bit so it’s not going to get all clumpy and get a decent sized brush then go to town over the whole thing

I’ve painted 20 ork boyz individually like you are, so I can relate

[white tangle]

maybe its because im not thinning right but the one time i tried that i found that it covered the details like That Guy said

idk, guess ill just stop complaining and crack on with it

[rare hornet]

Possibly was a bit too thick

Try dipping the brush in some water, wipe it down a tissue once or twice. Go to the paint, tissue again then model?

It might be very runny but it ends up very smooth

I used that for the red and black, took a while because I needed multiple coats but it did the job

[teal wolf]

Are the swords in this kit scaled up to his size

[rare hornet]

Pardon? My brain is having a moment.

You asking if he has a normal power sword or a bigger one yea?

[teal wolf]

Yeah if the swords are bigger than the standard size.
My brain is off sorry

[rare hornet]

Yeah no worries mine’s not on either 😆

I believe so? I’ll be honest I gave him the power fist

[teal wolf]

Night shift Brain rot has destroyed me lol.

I wanted to get that model and scale him up

[rare hornet]

Ah I get you now

[teal wolf]

Wanted to make a primaris tiberos sized character.
Just one absolute unit

[last stratus]

Corrupted Cherub

[tiny jay]

Nise

[last stratus]

[tiny jay]

IDK what I'm gonna do with the spare cherubs from Hospitaler.

Er, nvm. They're doves.

[last stratus]

the idea will come when they will come

[tiny jay]

I'll have to take some photos of what I did with my GBD's, I really want to try and avoid having flier stands/rods at all if I can help it.

So I used some bits of guitar string and electrical wire to hide the post on the GBD's and make them look like they've got tubes/cables feeling about on the ground when they're flying low.

One peeking through a window on terrain, one flying low and the last one is like, peeking around a bit of city rubble so I just attatched the rotor to the wall.

[proper trellis]

What the fuck why are yoy here

[glossy hawk]

Hi hostel

[proper trellis]

Hi!!

What army do you play

[glossy hawk]

GSC

[proper trellis]

Ah okay figures

Ngl orks are cooler

[lavish crescent]

Custodes

[lofty bridge]

Custodes 😌

[devout lake]

Night lords 😔

[lavish crescent]

They are the golden love child of the Big E and smort Big E

[midnight locust]

Guard

[rare hornet]

custard?

[sudden notch]

Just got earthshade

Time to improve the bananas armour

[brisk vapor]

Now to get the rest of the squad to this stage

[midnight locust]

Looks great

[brisk vapor]

Cheers!

[plush swift]

there is a mold line that wasnt removed, now you are forever cursed to fixate on that one small detail, you're welcome

[brisk vapor]

ain't the first one, nor will it be the last

[proper trellis]

How emperor, thats awesomr
R

Fuck, I am incapable of typing. Good job

[brisk vapor]

Haha thanks

Guess just a lot of practice

[midnight locust]

Any suggestions on weathering or making the shoulder decals less bright?

[brisk vapor]

Maybe thinning down the green you used for the shoulders

Like very very thin and do a layer or two glazing on it

[midnight locust]

Probably should varnish the model first yeah?

[brisk vapor]

If the decals are well dried it ought not mess with them

But if you want to be 100% sure you can varnish them first yeah

[midnight locust]

Gotcha

[proper trellis]

Nuln oil maybe? Watered down dark contrast paint? Could try poking the armor area with leadbelcher on the tip of a sponge brush to make it look like the paint is chipped off and revealing the metal plates underneath

[midnight locust]

Hm, that all sounds like interesting ideas. I’ll have to look into it!

I guess right now the biggest thing I need to look into is highlighting but I still want to keep a darker color tone

[tiny jay]

sponge on a little ligher green or grey to make it look like its chipped the paint. or a combo of both so some chips are deeper than others.

[unborn pebble]

Angry Robot nun is coming along.

[rare hornet]

I'm getting 2 Lion models

I have decided

[tiny jay]

Trying to decide if I should do Khinerai wings for all Seraphim or just Saint Celestine's Saint Carmina's guards.

[teal wolf]

Go hard and get 4, one for each head

[proper trellis]

WIP, few last things I gotta do. I wanna make the helmet pop more, can anypne give me suggestions?

[teal wolf]

Looking pretty good! Couldnt go wrong with some edge highlights maybe

[proper trellis]

Yeah sure, I can do that.

[proper trellis]

Glue all 8 heads to the model somewhere. Lion el'johnson to hydra el'johnson

[agile seal]

make it GOLD

[midnight locust]

Veteran Medic

[errant fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856316599975673886/1090832428316241970/IMG_9380.jpg

Gonna run these as land speeder tornadoes
turns out they are the same base size, just gotta kitbash some autocannons on there and were good

[naive umbra]

Those are some chonky jetbikes

[errant fulcrum]

First one done

[sudden notch]

Some tone on the banana

[teal wolf]

Hey I like the shoulder combo!

[sudden notch]

albeit i screwd up painting the eye

now he looks like he is giving cartoonish glance somewhere

[teal wolf]

He is just really perceptive 😉

[sudden notch]

https://tenor.com/view/uneasy-sad-big-eye-eye-popping-dog-gif-17443916

[teal wolf]

Gonna have to steal that pauldron idea for my next lot

[sudden notch]

i wake up tomorrow only to see it having vanished

also deathwatch kill team coming nicely along

[teal wolf]

My custode bit box is baaaad lol

[rare hornet]

Spesh marine

[naive umbra]

The perspective on the box art makes these look fatter than real life

[midnight locust]

Any suggestion on spray varnishes to use on minis once the painting work is done?

[teal wolf]

On brands? Or say gloss vs matte?

[midnight locust]

Both. Just trying to get the best understanding on what would work best for the minis I have

[teal wolf]

I've got a can of citadel matte varnish. It does it's job well.

I've mainly used gloss varnish by vallejo via airbrush tho.
Airbrush varnish is nice cuz it has a little more control than the cans. The cans are still very much usable.

[midnight locust]

Gotcha. Just trying to keep the work I’ve done protected

[teal wolf]

Side note
I use mainly gloss cuz most of minis are metallic colors and that's just to keep it a tad more shiny

[midnight locust]

Hm. Gotcha. I paint guard so most of my paints are flat save for gun metal bits and bobs

[teal wolf]

Then I'd recommend matte then

[midnight locust]

For reference

[teal wolf]

Oooh well done!

[midnight locust]

Thanks!

On a separate note I’m guessing spray in low humidity/moderate temps?

[white tangle]

When blending, do you want to blend the darks to lights or the other way around? I remember watching a video that said one was better to do but i cant find the video now 😦

[teal wolf]

Yeeea!

[cinder bear]

Alpharius final form

[midnight locust]

Before or after basing the model?

[teal wolf]

I typically varnish when I believe he mini to be 100% done

[tiny jay]

Rustoleum Matte Clear works pretty great and its the lowest sheen clear coat I've found. if you don't want to add any gloss/sheen. Though it won't be as hard as a gloss coat.

There are cheaper versions from the same brand that are matte or satin but they don't do as good a job.

[rare hornet]

Use varnish before the base coat, trust me

[teal wolf]

Ayo 👀

[rare hornet]

Now we see how many people think I’m being serious

[teal wolf]

Imma do it now

[rare hornet]

Oh no

[teal wolf]

Iron warrior just for you 🤣

[rare hornet]

What would that even do?

I feel like it would just make the paint not stick XD

[teal wolf]

Science time with Sindiel

[rare hornet]

Remember the correct order to painting

[teal wolf]

Layer paints first

[rare hornet]

Varnish, washes, highlights, base coats, primer, cut and glue

In that order

[teal wolf]

Prime models last stooopid!

[rare hornet]

Ah of course, how could I forget

[teal wolf]

"Primed" and ready duh

[rare hornet]

Anyone just used spray then realised after they started spraying they didn’t shake the can for long enough? 😅

Luckily we got away with it

[teal wolf]

I'll see myself out with that one

[rare hornet]

No for you see if you do it last it makes it ‘ready and primed’

[teal wolf]

I have to heat up my laundry room before priming cuz it snows half the year X_×

[rare hornet]

Ouch, well it rains most of the time here so I don’t know if that’s better or worse

[teal wolf]

I miss rain.
I've legit left primer infront of heaters and just prayed to big e they didn't explode xD

[deft fable]

@rare hornet New pp mha waifu 👀

[rare hornet]

Best character hands down

[plush swift]

HehaHEhahe

[cosmic topaz]

Woo, not super great at highlighting etc yet

[deft fable]

I stopped at the Yakuza arc

[rare hornet]

Trying to remember when that was now

[dark violet]

so i found this image online of an alternative celestine mini but i cant find it anywhere ons ale unpainted or so does anyone know if it was some anniversary item or if its fanmade?

so appareantly its the old version?

[devout lake]

That's the old resin model I believe

[rare hornet]

Gad dayum that looks old

[dark violet]

its appareantly metal i tihnk

[rare hornet]

Looks metal

[dark violet]

seems to be over 15 years old

[devout lake]

Idk i fought this model pretty recently

Felt like resin

[dark violet]

might be a recreation

[devout lake]

For a while I thought the catachan models were resin or metal

[dark violet]

okay i find different posts about it

some are resin

[devout lake]

Nope all plastic must be the way they painted them

[dark violet]

some say metall

and they are all about 100€+

soooo

me sad

okay one was found on ebay

it is indeed metal

[rare hornet]

A proper solid girl right there

[dark violet]

eh gonna get modern celestine anyway

plus i get her 2 geminae with her

[proper trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[sullen stratus]

Does any one have a link to admech 9th edition codex in pdf form as I am broke right now and can't afford it at the moment but still want to learn the rules and playstyle of my army I am making

[tiny jay]

I mean 10th should be coming out soonish.

And that'll be all downloadable rules by the sounds of it.

[tiny jay]

New Celestine is a better model anyway + she gets proper wings.

[sullen stratus]

well still the 9th edition should be still somewhat helpful during the wait

[tiny jay]

Tabletop Time did a cool wings swap though. I think they're wings from one of the AOS Stormcast kits?

[coarse badger]

Probably Yndrasta's wings

[frigid minnow]

Getting there. I did a kitbash to make Lord Solar into Yarrick following Pete the Wargamers guide. Almost done with the Horse, then I plan on painting the Ole angry man himself

[tiny jay]

I want some Bloodthirster wings for my saint.

[coarse badger]

They chaos or summin

[tiny jay]

Yeah, the SO decided she's building Khorne Sororitas. Order of the Bloody Throne under Living Saint Carmina.

Pete the Wargamer's Khorne Seraphim was a chunk of the inspiration.

Not sure if we'll be doing Khinerai wings for just the Geminai or all the Seraphim/Zeraphim.

Maybe Zeraphim, but not Seraphim. (since they use twin pistols and thus are clearly less favored by the blood god)

But yeah, idea is to either use the army as Sororitas just with flavor since all of the abilities can be handled fairly easy and with a keyword swap.

But Celestine could probably also be a decent proxy for a demon prince or bloodthirster.

[unborn pebble]

Hey, I am trying to find a color to do the "banners" on the shield and shoulder without overlapping a color. The wings and the cloth are gonna be a red.

[dark violet]

so i need 2 models to make her perfect

[dark violet]

i am still a bit scared of doing my morvenn vahl dont wanna mess her up

[unborn pebble]

Getting the scary one done first. Plus she has the most black on her because if filigree.

[steep ether]

Nurgle terrain progress. One of my tallarns shown as size comparison

[glossy hawk]

Ohhhohoho

It’s like a great unclean one would be camoflouge there

[steep ether]

Got inspired by Darktide to make a Moebian Traitor Guard regiment. Got some 3D printed nurgle terrain to bring for games as well

[pine yacht]

One man army..

[sudden notch]

I really wanna make grey knight/heavy intercessor kitbash

[undone pike]

I'm about to fuggn burst into tears rn God dammit

[sudden notch]

He lean

[undone pike]

Servoskull leaning over for a peek

[tiny jay]

Could try a bitz store. Its where I sourced my Khinerai wings.

[tiny jay]

For the Grandfather.

[undone pike]

Crisis... somewhat averted

[tiny jay]

if you've got some fine drills, you could drill a little nto the tank and the pipe and insert some steel/alloy wire.

[undone pike]

Oh wow, that'd get it tougher for sure, unfortunately I haven't got those kinds of resources

I'm still very new to minis so all I've got are my clippers and superglue when it comes to building

And tweezers

[tiny jay]

Something like that.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Precision-Professional-Jewelry-Electronic-Assembling/dp/B08ZY6X86C/ref=asc_df_B08ZY6X86C/?tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=463552917535&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=35570110364780611&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071368&hvtargid=pla-1351650126385&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com.au/Yakamoz-20Pcs-0-3-1-6mm-Shank-Rotary/dp/B09Y8TQJVT/ref=d_pb_allspark_dp_sims_pao_desktop_session_based_sccl_3_4/355-5386753-3452505?pd_rd_w=2Jw9e&content-id=amzn1.sym.3d2308c5-c16d-4cbf-a740-454529640080&pf_rd_p=3d2308c5-c16d-4cbf-a740-454529640080&pf_rd_r=A9C5V31P7NPQSXC1PD6H&pd_rd_wg=Avp05&pd_rd_r=3618409d-fb3d-4995-927f-d7381651569b&pd_rd_i=B09Y8TQJVT&psc=1

[undone pike]

Wow, yea thos're fine drills, thanks!

[tiny jay]

fairly cheap too, would be cheaper in USD

[undone pike]

S'always "cheaper" in USD lol, im Canadian

[tiny jay]

Australian XD

But yeah, a bit set like that should last you a while since your only cutting plastic.

[undone pike]

Sweet, should help with kitbashing too I'm assuming

[tiny jay]

Yeah, pinning stuff is great for rigidity.

I use threaded rod where I can, but wire is often all I can use when it gets small.

[undone pike]

Fair, must be hard to find something so small

[tiny jay]

Not as important with my Moebians since they're mostly gonna be glued together. Except for the base/mounts for the Blight Drones I've done.

But now the missus is settled on Khornate Sororitas, we want to make sure all the wings are super secure. Also why we're not gonna even try to use Celestine's little bits of parchment as stands.

[tiny jay]

I mean wire is easy enough to get with a trip to the hardware store.

[undone pike]

I actually am in walking distance of one so that's actually ideal lmao

[tiny jay]

Bought these but we've found some even smaller ones thanks to a freind in Bali.

So gonna just make a big ol' pile of skulls around a piece of wood as a stand. Slightly smaller piles for her Geminae.

And smaller again for the Zepherim.

Gonna keep them as like, Ogryn skulls or something.

the Citadel skulls pack is pretty good value, but I'm getting a large coffee tin of them for like $15

[left egret]

The people have chose Iron Warriors

And overwhelming victory for Iron within, Iron without over Blood for the Blood God

[tiny jay]

I mean, you said Iron Warriors was your main army, hence I voted that way.

[left egret]

Its the main army but World eaters are my soul army.... well they used to be. Now my heart beats brass and crimson as well as gunmetal and hazard stripes... which made the choice difficult for me 😋

[tiny jay]

Fair.

Dan Abnett's blurb and the artwork for the Moebian 6th were the kick I needed to get back into 40k after like more than a decade away from wargaming.

Got the missus started on Kill Team and after like 2 months undecided they settled on Corrupted Sororitas.

Which, is kind of a happy accident because I learned since that Nurgle and Khorne are opposed more directly to the other 2 chaos gods than eachother. So there is the opportunity if we ever want to play doubles against someone.

But, doesn't stop us playing one another as is.

[left egret]

Which is funny because Nurgle is Khornes least hated brother

[tiny jay]

Yeah, I didn't realise that Khorne and Nurgle were directly opposed to Tzeench and Slaanesh

[left egret]

Yarp

[tiny jay]

So our lore is that the sisters are from a minor shrine world somewhere in the vacinity of the Moebian domain.

[left egret]

My theory is that he hates slaanesh the most for never going to rehab. Tzeentch is an indecisive mollusc and its infuriating. Ergo Nurgle is the most bearable

[tiny jay]

I mean, Khorne and Nurgle are just officianados of different bodily fluids. And Slaanesh is just weird about it.

[left egret]

Yes... it is very weird about it... Slaanesh makes the bloodletting very uncomfortable

[tiny jay]

I really hope they do a lost and the damned group of rules for 10th.

[left egret]

Oh absolutely. Gib me more beastmen

[tiny jay]

Were the beastmen models the exact same ones from BF?

I feel like they were.

[left egret]

The kill team ones? No there is a slight difference

[tiny jay]

So they refreshed them slightly, like they did with the blooded.

the BF traitor guard poses are almost identical to the Blooded KT

[left egret]

Aye. There is a noticeable enough of a difference to say they aren't the exact same

Also they added ones that are pretty much unique to killteam right now. Like the gasmask beastman

And dual weapons one

I think the shaman is also new

[tiny jay]

There are some very close re-used poses.

I really want a set of BF traitor guard though.

Especially the HQ guys and Grenadiers.

Now I've got them in hand though, the blooded bits are almost interchangeable with the new Cadians.

[left egret]

They do look good though

[rare hornet]

The thicc ones are completed

[left egret]

Iron havocs when GW?

[rare hornet]

Well you can improv them using HH heavy teams and custom helmets

[left egret]

True but a official model would be nice

More legion specific models

Even if its just for 30k

[wary trench]

[rare hornet]

Ayyy

[left egret]

Burning eldar children intensifies

[wary trench]

my passion of burning eldar children is questioned by some, respected by all

[left egret]

The Iron Warrior and World Eater competing for my soul agree with that statement... though the latter chatises you for not spilling their blood

[primal summit]

They are super cool.

[primal summit]

Nicely done. Pox walkers are heckin fun to paint.

[zenith ether]

mars broke the guardsman plasma gun machine and just sends them space marine models with an extra handle now

[naive umbra]

Sounds like tech heresy to me

[midnight locust]

Veteran guardsmen get all the new toys /s

[naive umbra]

Profaning the holy STC with a....handle? binaric screeching intensifies

[errant fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713599297161265212/1091169426889527356/IMG_9395.jpg

Should I keep the necron body or nah

[midnight locust]

Does anyone else have a point where they are slowly plugging away at an army, you paint your nth guardsman, and you say you know what, I want to paint something that’s not another guardsman?

[glossy hawk]

How I set my minis up for priming

If you’re wondering why there’s 3 bisected neophytes, it’s because there are enough bits left over to make the upper half of 3 neophytes so I’m going to make them popping out of containers

[simple thorn]

Okay genuine question because I don't think I've seen it anywhere else here - but does anyone cut the mini's off the sprue, then paint them?
Or is it just me?

[coarse badger]

Isn't that like

The normal way

[dark violet]

What you don't dunk them in paint first?

[simple thorn]

I mean I see a lot of people assembling the mini first, THEN painting

Probably should've worded that better, brain is foggy

like

[proper trellis]

yeah the NOOBZ do, pros paint on the sprue and then assemble

[simple thorn]

Sprue -> paint -> assemble

I usually do that

But I see people doing sprue -> assemble -> paint

[dark violet]

I don't assemble first. I cut them out, paint piece by piece and then assemble

[simple thorn]

Oh thank christ, I'm not the only one

[dark violet]

It's easier for me

[proper trellis]

wth y'all have such weird ways

[dark violet]

Let's me get into the tighter spots

[simple thorn]

Same. Heck I did that from the get-go

[dark violet]

Oh I attached the arm already now I can't paint behind it because of the pose

Great

[simple thorn]

this is why
Can't do small details on the edges if the edge is squished between the cape, backplate and an elbow

[dark violet]

Yes

Especially on my sisters

Their poses often don't allow that

Or my skitarii

[simple thorn]

or a Titan

Look at his legs
LOOK AT THEM
How the FUCK do you paint in the bits behind the pipes

4th pic is easier. Back of the legs

[dark violet]

That looks so clean

[simple thorn]

I can't paint it like that if it were fully assembled. It'd have either red hydraulics or blank plating

[dark violet]

Okay I found one part

That annoys me

Right shoulder fleur de lys

Or whatever it is

[simple thorn]

I don't think I ever got around to that

[dark violet]

Looked like one at fjrst

[simple thorn]

And I think it's Fleur du Lis or something like that

Fleur-de-lis according to google

But yeah, some of my mini's are a little messy in places. Either I'm busy and forget, or get pulled away and forget something, or I just didn't notice until I got the camera

That fucko was the third one

Oh hey, found the image of the Chaos Techmarine dude

If ye want clean though

Behold: Cl0wnguard

[teal wolf]

Sub assembly depending on the model 100%

[rare hornet]

Ayyy I got one of them! :D

[rare hornet]

Found him!

Gonna have to do some more IW when I start my HH binge

But at the same time I wanna do Legio Mortis

[teal wolf]

Do both 🤷‍♂️

[rare hornet]

[teal wolf]

I wanna do a full phobos list and enjoy how crap it'll be

[copper siren]

actually a bad job of modelling

you didn't drill your barrels

[simple thorn]

God damn he looks too damn good

[copper siren]

delete this and come back when you're finished

[simple thorn]

Look at Mr Moneybags here, thinks we can afford dremel tools with our budget

Listen here fucko, we're painting Warhammer minis
Do you think we have enough money for fancy tools?

Or food?

[copper siren]

my LGS doesn't even sell them 😂

[simple thorn]

You get them from tool shops

[teal wolf]

When I bought my first starter set aeons ago.
Some random chad pulls into the lgs. Hands me a pin drill to keep and tac squad plus dread out of the black reach set.

Never saw the guy again

[rare hornet]

proceeds to grab power drill

[rare hornet]

Thank you!! I wanted to make him my forge master for HH, so I’ve dechaosified him a bit and gave him a 40mm base instead of his long one

[tiny jay]

And I'm gonna have to spend hours scraping them all off XD

[rare hornet]

Ugh I want knights so bad!!!!!

For now just take this repaint job I did for a friend of one of her old minis ^^

[rare hornet]

Painting as you build is good for those cases

[rare hornet]

I would suggest using the side of the brush to get in the gap, might be a little tricky due to the scale of the model but it’s and option

[hearty bear]

Oh

Oh my god

The first picture

[rare hornet]

That was like 11 years ago in their defence

[teal wolf]

We love a hobby glowup

[rare hornet]

Ye, I really enjoyed it painting up a different chapter

[teal wolf]

I wanna dive into the character series for that reason

[rare hornet]

Yeah I know what you mean

[teal wolf]

Buddy got me a 3rd party big e models as a going away gift.
Can't wait till I have space again to work on it

[rare hornet]

That sounds awesome

Best I got it Bayard’s revenge and Chaplain Tarentus

[tiny jay]

Question for anyone with the various Gallowdark boxes, do the missions/objective based matches rely on the specific makeup of the kill teams? Like the unique abilities of the KT or something.

Considering getting some of the terrain expansions for the into the dark set to run them with other KT’s.

[teal wolf]

Oooh jealous. I wanna mess with a bayards

[rare hornet]

Literally ordered him the instant I had the chance

[teal wolf]

That first updated emperors champion was dog water

[rare hornet]

Nah I love him

[teal wolf]

The old first born is still my fav

[rare hornet]

Did some tweaks to him admittedly

Mainly the helmet

[teal wolf]

I miss the laurels on the bucket

[slender ridge]

Few of my boney boys

[midnight locust]

Spooky boys

[slender ridge]

Very

Less spooky boy

[cosmic topaz]

Newest to oldest, man I enjoy this hobby, left is newest

[slender ridge]

A dreddy enjoyer i see

[slender ridge]

Really like the progression though i can still see some brush lines on the newest one maybe thin the paint a bit more to get a smoother cover

[cosmic topaz]

I’m getting better, the death co dread you could see them more, so I’m getting better at figuring out how to best dilute, but I always appreciate the feedback.

I also haven’t sealed the flesh tearer and the death co yet so that will improve a bit

Was the first time working with flesh tearer red and it’s a contrast so it seemed pretty watered down but looks like I need to add just a wee bit more.

[compact umbra]

I bought a dinosaur skeleton kit from dollar tree, gotta say it’s a good source of fantasy dead animal bits

It’s basically an ez terrain piece and a reptile Skeleton

Here I’ll grab a space marine when I get home

For 3 USD it ain’t bad

I’ll use these when I start on my astral Templars

[slender ridge]

Maybe the undercoat was too thick or you moved it all around too much as i’ve never needed to thin a contrast paint

If anyone else does do this please correct me as i’m quite new to this hobby

[cosmic topaz]

Who knows haha, I’ll keep messing with stuff, I’m happy with everything overall

[compact umbra]

Ah,

[sudden notch]

A waep spidah

[cosmic topaz]

That’s already lookin smooth

[compact umbra]

It’s bigger then I Thought but the skull would be a cool add on for shoulder pads

And rib cage would look good on chariots and shit

Now I just need to buy storm casts

[plush swift]

if you had tiny skulls you could use them for the shoulderpads

[sudden notch]

Man the things i wanna paint fly all over the place

Ive already done custodes, tempestus, deathwatch and now i wanna make heavy intercessor kill team

[rare hornet]

Stranger danger

[signal sable]

Given the prominent part this thing plays in the game, I thought I'd ping a WIP across.

[warm dune]

Wip

[pastel grotto]

Who would win, god's strongest prince or a hungry boy

[warm dune]

The one on the right has chz burger 🍔

[midnight locust]

I spilled Agrax damnit

[compact umbra]

Cyber Belakor is going well

cybelakor?

[unborn pebble]

Pre-highlights,

[copper siren]

chrome marines

[unkempt patrol]

Master of Ordnance 🫡

[rare hornet]

Apothecary progress for this evening

[teal wolf]

He looking cute

[midnight locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532665147500658719/1091517746128371782/IMG_8241.jpg

Getting better with the shoulderpad

[proper trellis]

Is that a shotgun bolter..

[teal wolf]

Absolver bolt pistol I think? Usually on apothecaries and chaplains

[undone pike]

You know what I find wild about runefang steel amd leadbelcher paint

In the pots they look so distinct

But here's how they look on a model, can you even tell wixh was used where?

(The blade and spike are unelord brass)

Of course I could be having a bout of foolishness right now since I've only put down a single coat of em

This is how i painted it

[proper trellis]

I notice a subtle difference in texture nore than anything. Leadbelcher is rougher

I think runefang is a layer tho- doesnt it go ontop of another paint?

[plush swift]

I can see them being diffferent the issue is that the leadbelly or w/e hobby nonsense word that is, is reflecting off the brass color so you have a redder tone coming through with it so it makes it look way darker and blends in more with the rubfang which is reflecting off a similar light due to how its mica properties work on a physics level

I could explain that in great detail but its really annoying to do that honestly

[undone pike]

@proper trellis
Oh yeah, I totally missed the "layer" print on the runefang there...

I would feel foolish but Ive had some drinks this evening

@plush swift
That's neat, fair you don't wanna explain it though if it's super complicated

As I w said in this channel a couple times, im pretty new to painting, I've got learning to do lmao

[plush swift]

it requires me teaching you the physics of light and color theory, which will destroy your enjoyment of hobby youtubers

[plush swift]

I'm not, I teach classes for art and work in art conservation irl, so if you need bizarre advice or need to know about paint chemistry just ping me

always down to teach new people some things

[undone pike]

Sweet, thanks! I just might in the future :)

[dark violet]

Corpse starch over here understands paints on a molecular level

He will make sure your paints are in order

I wanted to ask

[plush swift]

the sad thing is I do... I know how binders interact and degrade when you add water to them at each specific percentage

[dark violet]

I sprayed some of my stuff with retributor gold spray paint

And it was all grainy

Is that because it was pretty cold outside when I did?

When I see others use it it comes out just like the actual paint all smooth

[plush swift]

its mica based, you need to shake it for a minimum of 45 minutes in a towel as to not transfer heat depending on the room temperature

[dark violet]

Wtf 45 minutes

Don't you mean 4 to 5

[plush swift]

no

[undone pike]

Holy shit

[plush swift]

its mica, it forms agglomerates easily

I hate metallic spray paints for a reason

its even worse since gold paints generally have some level of iron oxide pigments in them, so they are in fact magnetic

even minorly

[dark violet]

Others told me it's cuz of the outside temperature that it looked different

[plush swift]

thats another possibility, how cold was it outside?

[dark violet]

This guy's base is still painted in it

It was like 5 to 10 celsius

Can advises 15 to 25 celsius

[plush swift]

yeah thats way too cold, for gold ideally you want around 18.33

[dark violet]

Welp screw my country then

Weather is doing an April fools for 2 months now

[plush swift]

21 is fine too, 25 can cause issues with the acrylic copolymer and cause it to dry in the air

[dark violet]

Lol I'd love to see that actually

[plush swift]

it being cold out isnt a bad thing technically

the major issue with cold is if its moist out

[dark violet]

It was lol

Wanted to test it out and not wait for warmer weather

Which won't be here for another month

[plush swift]

yeah because it doesn't hold moisture as well as hot air, you can run into problems

hot air has its own issues

which is why 18C~ is the ideal temp

[dark violet]

Just don't want to use it inside

[plush swift]

yeah dont

[dark violet]

Turns the air into a gold mist

[plush swift]

you're wearing a mask when spraying it, right?

[dark violet]

Ofcouuuuure

[plush swift]

mica is really bad for the lungs and tends to not leave it

[dark violet]

I totally did

Well I did

[plush swift]

its like tiny razor blades

[dark violet]

Ffp2

Dunno what the classification is in english

[plush swift]

We use a similar system in the US

I know what FFP is also

[dark violet]

Ffp3 is what people for example wear when clearing out a hoarders house

To protect from the actual filfth

[plush swift]

FFP3 is what I use around pigments and airbrushes

[dark violet]

I think there's also ffp4 for the big stuff

[plush swift]

But weirdly enough, CBRN filters are cheaper so I use those, which is hilarious because they go way above FFP3

[cursive vector]

Counts as “Death Rider Squadron Commander”

[plush swift]

Probably true in one of the many planets that civil war looking regiment exists

[copper siren]

Hailing from the Death-World Plymouth the Patriot Regiments have tamed the wildlife through the manifest destiny bestowed upon them by Him On Earth. This pict was taken of Sergeant Maddison of the 13th Calvary Regiment.

[shy sedge]

more boarding patrols on order from today

had to pick this up

the sisters one is good value

[edgy jackal]

Is this a GW kit?

[hardy arrow]

doesn't look like it to me

[lofty bridge]

Use stormhost silver if you want a more silvery silver