#40k-minis-and-armies
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actually they are very commonly in rounds
this took me more time than it should have
firs i had to cut off parts of her back to put on this weapon since it was for a different unit
but it worked out great
i really like this one
she go BANG BANG BANG RATATA
Next steps done... tomorrow i can go for painting the parts bit by bit
Can you give redemptor dreadnoughts two ranged weapons like two plasma guns
nope
Lets go another templars player
@atomic rose primed the boyz
Better image, you can see a nob in the back with a big ol’ axe
They’ll be deathskulls, ready for some proper lootin’ soon
lootin' an' shootin'
Words of Mork
Eventually I plan on getting some Killa Kans and splashing some paint on them so they can be “sneaky” Killa Kans
AINT NOTHIN GONNA BREAK MY STRIDE
Kinda bad angles but I attempted to paint this guy last night, he’s okay just my brush won’t hold a tip anymore 😦
Tried to edge highlight the arm and man I suck lol
Suppose I can try to thin the lines by going original green from the inside
That's ok, the ugly ones can just pull their hoods up
Neon green
Building some Ork Boyz and after that waiting for better weather conditions for priming them...
I need a place to prime I'm at a apartment
I do have a little patio and a cardboard box so that's probably the best place for it
It's saturday, so it's paint-day !
Oh yeah
Horus brought to life
woah
With the power of male pattern baldness
So red glare OSL under the face, yay or nay?
pre corruption horus or post?
after turning against the imperium but before the siege
yay
caps*
a bit scared it'll ruin the work put into it already
Let's go, I got that box a week or two ago as well
I finished all the Custodes I own, now to do sisters of silence
Anyone know which stats are better for the ironstrider ballistarii heavy turret?
I’m trying to make these good for sweeping squads but mainly focused on other walker, tanks etc
anti elite infantry is profile 1, anti vehicle is profile 2, would go for the 2 no matter what. -1 AP is weak.
strength 7 also not too strong, will wound t4 inf (spacemarines, necrons,) on a 3, while the str 9 weapon will wound them on a 2, with -3 ap goe sttraight through a lot of armor.
profile 2 - can do good damage on vics, and if shot on infantry every hit will most likely klill.
Sweet, was kinda thinking number 2 anyway just by looking but I know on occasion some are better at attacking specific targets
it depends, of course if u shoot at guardsman profile 1 will do a good job, if you shoot at spacemarines it will do okay, if you shoot at a vic with t8 it will do poorly.
but yeah, if you dont magnetise and need to choose one, i would go for profile 2
I’m still pretty much a noob so I don’t plan to magnetize, don’t even have the magnets for it
for gameplay, more damage = more fun XD
Lmao yea
at least for casual play, comp other story, but just go with what ur gut tells you. i prefer having a weapon which can kill a tank and massively pulverize whater infantry model, over a gun which might kill some inf or might not and will most likely not scrape any vehicles 😄
str 9 is really good generally since a vehicle breakpoint is t8
Same here, plus I did try to learn once through tabletop sim, I got most of the mechanics down but the weapons on the guns weren’t doing anything
Ohhhhh Isee
Depending on forge world and other active buffs, auotcannon can get more str
Magnetizing is a good option too
But still, I think lascannon is more common
well yeah, i dont have any idea about admech in detail xD
Honestly, they look similar enough, you could just say its one or the other
that
Unless youre playing with uber tryhards
yeah, if you play casual just point out in the beginning of the game what kinda weapon it shall be.
super common with hellblaster also, they have 3 different weapon profiles which all have slightly different weapons.
in a casual environment normally its fine
LUPERKAL
🫡
I'm still waiting for someone to post pics of pastel pink/purple horus
The collective triggering would be epic
Backpack done, vallejo metallic is a bit weird maybe I didn’t shake it but I am overall pretty happy about it as my first one
Needs touch ups
I will do this when I start the base
Firstborne hype
On that topic I find primaris cleaner looking but I think GW should have varied them and not have them like clone troopers
Primaris are great, Firstborn look like dwarves in comparison
just need conversion kits to give them flavour
or pick funky chapters like space wolves or black templar for the really unique looks
or kitbash
First born are iconic and in my opinion look better than primaris I like both I just wish GW starts to realize that their newer models need flavor
This is why i like chaos space marines. Pretty much every model in a unit looks tiny bit different from each other. Also angsty boi skulls and horns ❤️
loyalist aesthetic: broke 🤢
traitor aesthetic: baroque 😩

I adore them too
They the rebels

I always love the rebels
Tried to do the bronze highlighting, instead of straight edge highlights since I messed up a lot I just sort of made it look like the light is catching from in front on the sharpest points
Not sure if it’s good or not but
I think it maybe looks better than just drybrushing it idk
He's smaller than I thought
Aint it still massive next to human/marine sized dudes tho?
Somehow have a feeling that is a tiny bit taller than role accurate primarch
The OSL went decently
is the middle of the eye part of the model or painted on? 😮
the pupil? painted
Tried freehanding that shit to my csm's knee pad and i fucking hate myself for even trying
the one on the armour is sculpted though
So I played a game of 40k today, is it cool if I dump a few pictures of it here?
go ahead
I’ll only put a few so I don’t flood the channel
Ignore the first one, I meant to put this instead
This army says in battlescribe that i "have 11 too many selections from auxillary support detatchment -2CP (Max 3). What does this mean? how do i fix this? is this a problem from my selection of units?
++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -2CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [99 PL, -1CP, 2,000pts] ++
- Configuration +
Detachment Type / Shield Host: Adeptus Custodes, Shadowkeepers
Game Type: Open
- HQ +
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [10 PL, -1CP, 175pts]: Auric Aquilas, Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia, Stratagem: Victor of the Blood Games, Tip of the Spear, Warlord
Trajann Valoris [8 PL, 1CP, 200pts]: 1. Master of Martial Strategy, 2. Champion of the Imperium
- Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [7 PL, 150pts]
. 3x Custodian w/ Sentinel Blade & Praesidium Shield: 3x Praesidium Shield, 3x Sentinel Blade
Custodian Guard Squad [7 PL, 150pts]
. 3x Custodian w/ Sentinel Blade & Praesidium Shield: 3x Praesidium Shield, 3x Sentinel Blade
Custodian Guard Squad [7 PL, 135pts]
. 3x Custodian w/ Guardian Spear & Misericordia: 3x Guardian Spear, 3x Misericordia
Custodian Guard Squad [7 PL, 135pts]
. 3x Custodian w/ Guardian Spear & Misericordia: 3x Guardian Spear, 3x Misericordia
- Elites +
Allarus Custodians [9 PL, 180pts]
. 3x Allarus w/ Castellan Axe & Misericordia: 3x Balistus Grenade Launcher, 3x Castellan Axe, 3x Misericordia
Custodian Wardens [7 PL, 150pts]
. 3x Warden w/ Guardian Spear & Misericordia: 3x Guardian Spear, 3x Misericordia
Vexilus Praetor [6 PL, -1CP, 105pts]: (Shadowkeepers): Statis Oubliette, 1. Master of Martial Strategy, Guardian Spear, Misericordia, Stratagem: The Emperor's Heroes, Vexilla Magnifica
- Fast Attack +
Witchseekers [3 PL, 70pts]: Witchseeker Sister Superior
. 4x Witchseeker: 4x Witchseeker Flamer
- Heavy Support +
Telemon Heavy Dreadnought [14 PL, 275pts]: Arachnus Storm Cannon
. Telemon Caestus
Telemon Heavy Dreadnought [14 PL, 275pts]: Arachnus Storm Cannon
. Telemon Caestus
++ Total: [99 PL, -1CP, 2,000pts] ++
Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) any suggestions? any help?
Auxiliary can only include a single unit
What is the nicest way to tell someone they are doing the hobby wrong
your detachment type doesn't allow that many units
My friend sent me my first miniature I'll be attempting to paint, the Admech Enginseer
I believe if you switched to a battalion detachment that would remove the problem?
If anyone has beginner painting tips, I'd love to hear 'em (and if this matters, I'm left handed)
Take your time. There is no rush
When you go to prime make sure to do quick passes and not glob that stuff on
word
Dont compare your work to the work of others
And no matter what your first few models are gonna be bad
Also true, I would imagine my enginseer is gonna be pretty mid looking at best
There's not really a correct way
Keep the first one around tho so you can look at it 10+ models later and admire how much better you have gotten
My buddy just posted his dude he just primed and its like he was an inch away with the primer rattle can and just let it go nuts. No details are left its all pooled primer
Maybe I regret trying out vallah blizard voor my bjorn base but im also kinda okay with it
How do I do that in battlescribe?
Touche
Im new to this hobby, and i do not know
When you make a new roster you should get this menu
Yo what site is that
it's an application
I wanna plug in some variations of my armies to caluclate points so i can be lazy
battlescribe

So i have to make a new roster ?
Yes
It also comes with the ability to view your units in this format
I play a few, Mostly Black Templars and Orks
Erm... I've had no experience with them I'm afraid
I've seen them ran once and they were very scary
Bling > anything else in priorities for custodes 😛
im doing shadowkeepers paint style
still waiting for your forgelord or whatever it was called (bad with names) to be finished :D
Working on him as we speak. Just got to do his head and backpack as the main things
I hope to have him finished by the end of tomorrow, if not then Monday definitely
nice
I'll get a picture as soon as he's done
A wip for a breacher marine I painted to test out my airbrush with
I'm dead 🤣
Could I use brayards revenge as an emperors champion or is that a diorama only?
the base is a bit too big
how im protecting my army from dust till I get to paint em
my haul from the warhammer store that opened in my town today
what AOS you get
ah
What legion you got?
world eaters
Doing Horus heresy ones?
the kratos is actually for my alpha legion heresy force
i grabbed simply because i couldn't find it anywhere else in town and didn't feel like ordering it online
Ahh I gotcha
I want a release window for world eaters already
First Time free-handing something and making it look good
I HAD TO RESTRAIN MYSELF TO TRY FOR MORE, YOU WILL NOT TEMPT ME SUDUCTRESS
there was an audible book i think its the codex for angron that said feb 11th
not confirmed obvs just saw a youtube vid mentioning it
Hopefully next month with the new omens part
I just realized I put the shoulders backwards
tactical
look, the battle brother that helped make him was just a little bit special OK?
Ultra armored
With a plaque behind saying "Do not stab, thanks"
I have this exact set of containers
Painting some non-ogryn minis.
whered u find stuffs for the ones on the right
What do you mean?
Sister Repentias
I would probably go with that "stuffs" is not very helpful.
My Constantine Valdor of the Legio Custodes, first of the ten thousand
Hand painting "VALDOR" on his shoulder is what led me to name my dreadnaught "Io" to avoid writing too many letters
Jesus wow
Well I'm waiting for "the thing" to cure but I printed it at half scale so I'm also doing a full scale one
On our narrative Crusade (under friends) i can use it as emperors champion. just have to stick to emperors champion datasheet.
I got into painting my very first army. And I'm going with Ulthwe Craftworld. Any useful pointers for a rookie?
Going to be busy a while 
Only thing I have to say is that's some pretty decent line work for your first paintjob.
Rather crisp, if you will.
Eldad
If two people rocked up with the same named character each, would one of them be forced not to use it?
And if so, at what level of strictness would that apply? E.g. "rule one of Warhammer: have fun" with your mate means anything goes. But I imagine this would be a big nono in Matched play or Narrative play.
there's no unit selections that affect the other player's unit selection
like you can have to ultramarine armies go at it with both sides fielding Guilliman
yes
Sweet, thanks!
because i thought its a kitbash
never seen them on the store
Watch videos about painting on YT, so easy to learn these days
And its best to buy some "trash" minis to use for practice rather than to repaint alot
Maybe look up a tutorial on transfer sheets, the ulthwe decal stands apart from the paint layer underneath.
I'll also have to look up how it's done once I get back into decals.
They look so tacky if you dont paint over them, imo
It's really not difficult. The reason why they stand out is because of the difference in sheen. Which is why you want to use a decal softener to apply them, so they loose all rigidity and stick closer to the surface, and then apply a coat of varnish over the entire panel/area, so the sheen is uniform. But it will still stick our a bit, because now the sheen of the panel/area is different from the rest of the mini. 😅
Also, if you are weathering your models, do some weathering on the decals as well.
I've started to spray varnish my minis, so I think the sheen part will be fine.
Relative to the rest of the model, I mean
Well the 50% scale version kind of worked, I tried blowing something off my desk and still haven't found the front hair piece
Also holy shit it was annoying to assemble
Also I printed this little renegade sorcerer
mean i dont have mine yet
thats extremely good for rookie painting tbh, only thing id say to start with, is get highlighting and drybrushing down, and everything else after comes naturally 😄
yeah, that is good basecoat, well done. highlighting needs to be added to have the details pop out nextt
All the good ones
Uhm…
Now to figure out what to do with his base
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/29/sunday-preview-get-mad-as-hell-and-fight-the-entire-galaxy/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sunday-preview&utm_content=sunday-preview world eaters up for pre-order next weekend
World eaters pre orders next week let's goooo
Do any of you have a big list of all the new models that got leaked/announced?
My world eaters led by Abaddon at a tournament last year, facing down morty and a demon engine army in the last game of the event. (Minor victory)
And a few other pieces from the WE collection.
The big dude with the blue sword, what is he? You’ve done a remarkable job
Thanks 🙏 that’s just Abaddon painted in the red and brass of world eaters
He’s the warmaster of chaos atm
My second Grimguard trooper
Very nice! Straight into the mud
Thank you! They're not afraid of a bit of mud 
Also its not visible here but I also painted the lasguns stock brown for a wooden effect
Ooooo, I’ve never done chaos, maybe one day
The only enemy of the imperium I’ve done are Necrons. Because I love them
Do I need to post adagio for strings again?
Homeworld Soundtrack |
Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings
Will spraying my boys with acrylic topcoat cause any problems with the paint underneath?
Used a mixture of vallejo and citadel
Na it shouldn’t, citadel paints are acrylic too. I use army painter satin varnish on mine and vallejo is arguably better quality.
Any Custodes players have any suggestions or ideas as to what to add or remove from this army list?
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [98 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++
- Configuration +
Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Detachment Command Cost
Detachment Type / Shield Host: Adeptus Custodes, Aquilan Shield
Game Type: Open
- HQ +
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, -2CP, 160pts]: 3. Superior Creation, Hurricane Bolter, Inspiring Leader, Misericordia, Stratagem: The Emperor's Heroes, Stratagem: Victor of the Blood Games
Trajann Valoris [8 PL, 1CP, 200pts]: 1. Master of Martial Strategy, 2. Champion of the Imperium
- Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [7 PL, 150pts]
. 3x Custodian w/ Sentinel Blade & Praesidium Shield: 3x Praesidium Shield, 3x Sentinel Blade
Custodian Guard Squad [7 PL, 150pts]
. 3x Custodian w/ Sentinel Blade & Praesidium Shield: 3x Praesidium Shield, 3x Sentinel Blade
Custodian Guard Squad [7 PL, 135pts]
. 3x Custodian w/ Guardian Spear & Misericordia: 3x Guardian Spear, 3x Misericordia
Sagittarum Custodians [7 PL, 150pts]
. 3x Sagittarum w/ Misericordia: 3x Adrastus Bolt Caliver, 3x Misericordia
- Elites +
Allarus Custodians [9 PL, 180pts]
. 3x Allarus w/ Castellan Axe & Misericordia: 3x Balistus Grenade Launcher, 3x Castellan Axe, 3x Misericordia
Custodian Wardens [7 PL, 150pts]
. 3x Warden w/ Castellan Axe & Misericordia: 3x Castellan Axe, 3x Misericordia
Vexilus Praetor [6 PL, 105pts]: Guardian Spear, Misericordia, Vexilla Magnifica
- Fast Attack +
Witchseekers [3 PL, 70pts]: Witchseeker Sister Superior
. 4x Witchseeker: 4x Witchseeker Flamer
- Heavy Support +
Telemon Heavy Dreadnought [14 PL, 275pts]: Arachnus Storm Cannon
. Telemon Caestus
Telemon Heavy Dreadnought [14 PL, 275pts]: Arachnus Storm Cannon
. Telemon Caestus
++ Total: [98 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++
Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)
Any suggestions?
As someone on the fence about stepping onto the realm of the tabletop, I’ve been doing some research on what starting army I would go with. I really enjoy the lore behind the Blood Angels and I’ve heard Space Marines tend to be the easier faction to pick up. I figured if I was going to try it I would pick up a small pack of incursors, some paints, and just see how I enjoy it.
Coming from the angle of a potential new player is this a good way to dip my toe in to see if I even enjoy the hobby?
to my fellow painting nerds, i know titanium white is the best white paint, what black would y'all say is the same quality? i'm looking at hitting up Michael's to get better brushes and better white and black paint
I'm doing night lords should I paint gold trim or sliver?
gold would make it pop alot more and make it warmer to the eye
Do battleforce boxes typically come post release of models? Like angron is on preorder next week but just standalone, and mortarion and magnus have a box so I’m guessing they usually come later?
Just wasn’t into chaos when mortarion and magnus battleforce came out so not sure if they dropped when the models did or much later
No, just dont use a hobby one because they tend to be 3x more expensive than automotive, which is the one you need for durability
So it begins
Ahh okay, I still have a few cans of Mr.hobby and Tamiya topcoat from my gundam days, I'll just use those up first
That's fine too. Won't say they are bad varnish is varnish, enamel is what you need for durability
oof.exe
Can enamel go on top of acrylic?
yes
it came like this, its a partially built cerastus I got for free
which knight is this?
Cerastus
neat
It's in no way worth $330 fw is a joke
-whispers- 3D printers are cheaper
It was free
even better
Also I can't 3d print stuff to play with around me, most people will break the 3d print because they are overly obsessed 40k fans
Plus the stores tend to ban them
The cops in my town didnt even respond to a public shooting, so yeah, they'll do something
bruh
I would suggest looking at the rules, you can do so here for free:
As for the models themselves, I would recommend getting yourself a combat patrol set so things don't get too confusing of what models you should buy. If it is blood angels you like the lore of you can get a box for them here:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Combat-Patrol-Blood-Angels-2020
Sorry, I missed the part where you said about the models you was going to get. You can ignore that second link then
Rolled up to local tourney and got second by 4 points because my second opponent quit on me.
Can nail polish remover be used to remove paint from plastic minis?
for context I messed up on a mini's head with vallejo paints and I plan on redoing it
It CAN if it's a solvent or oil base
Most acrylic hobby paints are latex/water based however
do you recommend anything in specific for vallejo then?
I used M-1 brush and roller cleaner solution as well as M-1 tough job remover
Then scrub with a toothbrush
Mind you, the Spray primer is almost certainly an oil base
cool, so my paints would come off but not the primer?
Might come off a little from the scrubbing, but not typically
alright, thanks
How would I make a mini have a ghost like appearance? Prime white then light layer of ice blue contrast paint?
Super super watered down contrast
No, it will melt the plastic
No hobby paints are latex based, they are either polyurethane or polyvinyl alcohol/acetate based. Latex based paints are also water based
what do you recommend?
also if any of you want to see, let me grab an image of this poor fuckin ork head
Depends on the country
the best some countries can get is dettol, some can get actual good stuff like LA's totally awesome
Rest in peace you awful wretch
im in america so
LA's totally awesome, i use it all the time for stripping things
It can also someone work on FW resin without making it go fucky after a few seconds
Does LA stand for something or should I just look that up
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Here’s the body so far, I haven’t drybrushed or washed it yet but I think it looks good for my first mini ever
Corpse my man, what're those metallic paints you told me about that'll get me the finish I'm looking for but are super toxic
Don't sweat the small stuff when it comes to mini painting...nothing to lose your head over...:D
I'm using Vallejo oily steel to paint metal parts on a axe/hammer, and the brush keeps pushing it around instead of applying it
Change brush, change paint?
It's says it's a model colour but is acting like a wash
In my experience with that paint, you gotta shake it like a son of a bitch.
Poggy desert boys, do they have autoguns/stubs instead of lases?
I think they have lascarbines. The kit also came with a plasma gun, sniper rifle, flamer, and combat shotgun
Been working on the plasma gunner and a lady commissar. Trying to get the plasma glow right
:0 lovely
You'd have to be more specific
Man this channel has such good stuff I feel bad for tainting it now welp here is the first mini I have ever built idk when it will be painted but I built it
Ooooo. Mechanicus
Honestly looks super good
Looking forward to seeing it painted
Random camo pattern for my hellhound. One of the many vehicles in my Militarum Auxilla regiment.
having build my first chaos cultists, the one guy with a mechanical-ish arm makes me want to build a few mechnicus guys aswell
looks like it will be fun combo flesh and metal parts together
Toaster bois are fun to make tbh
Been trying to kitbash a new captian general for my custodes, mainly for HHv2
It begins! First time getting into 40K

RIP your wallet
I'm only gonna play it via Tabletop Simulator for now, so avoiding sending 2000 points of $$$ into the great rift. Thought paying for a Codex was a fair way to at least return some revenue to GW
Kinda strange when you realise this 1 book cost more than Darktide :P
at least 2-3 more sentinels
more cadians
leman russes 🙂
don't really plan to play, but i want the minis 🙂
Respect
This is also what I told myself. Now I am 2 years in (only started painting last year) and I have a sizable CSM army on my hands that needs painting and building
Nice flesh tearer
ty figured i should do a Blood Angel on the hero box guy
just wait until you find out that those books are yearly
Pretty much. There is really no reason to give GW anything back, they are certainly not struggling and probably won't be anytime soon.
I know GW are a bit rich with what they make you pay for but at least they're not Adobe levels of grubby
I like the art and lore bits in the book but they aren’t worth the price to just play the game
I wish they made it digital or made a way where you can have access to the codex through their WH+ sub
Basically add value
fun fact, GW cant copywrite the rules so its not illegal to print them off at home
for a hobby, they are worse. If GW was a product for professional users, it would be a different story
Gentlemen
Xenos! That's good to see!
One down. Five to go. 
How often should I be re-wetting my sable hair brush? Seems they keep a tip for maybe 20 seconds of using
Tried basing my first mini
I think it's alright considering the lack of paints

That is very well done
a nice sandy and dusty base which contrasts nicely with the blue
Maybe so, but its a very good start
Only compliant I have about the paints I am using is the metallics
what paint did you use for that?
It's the Silver and Gold that come from Vallejo US basic paint set
hmm, citadel leadbelcher and retributor gold might be a decent choice
can confirm retributor armor looks dope
but auric armor as layer aswell
I haven't seen retributor in stock in weeks :(( Been waiting but might just find it on ebay or something since I don't have a hobby store anywhere near me
depending on where you live i can recommend the online stores Fantasywelt and kutami
they do shipping across europe atleast
Just bought all of those
Also Balthzargold
They will take a while to ship
I found you can also shade the retributor with reikland fleshshade, I love the bronzey gold look it gives
@dark violet Thanks, ill check it out!!
hope you find what you are looking for and that shipping wont be too expensive :D

Citidel is probably your worst choice for metallics
but the small pots look very nice
:3
also it tastes so gooood
shots
Aesthetically overpriced
Slapping the name of the universes best boy and sexiest being will not sway my opinion.
Ughhhh can someone speed up my paint arrival gotta wait till next Thursday at least
fulgrim PINK
I can make a better pink
jokes on you i get all mine within 1-2 days
Fulgrim FUSCIA bitch
Amen to that
Eugh! Pastel!
How unoffensively dull
also why isnt there a sororita model like this
revolver boltgun and book in one hand
please i wnat
Your lack of oversaturation offends Slaanesh!
your lack of gold offends the emperor
Because that would likely dislocate her arm
nah it's a shotgun
Small ass shotgun
I don't know why I just feel it should be bulkier
Wasteland (left) or Swamp (right) for death guard, I cant decide
The base is going to be a mix between swamp and desert
Yeah I have the same dilemma
Think I'm going to go with wasteland, and grab some desert sand vallejo texture. I tried a couple of the citadel textures but none of them worked out great for what I wanted
that model actually looks better than I thought
would be more badass if he had a pistol and different head options ngl
He has a pistol it's just holstered
And his 2 head options are screaming or not screaming
It's just the very fucking silly and goofy box art paint scheme that put everyone off
i will 100% scream that on my first ever 40k match. and spleen of the cards when playing yu gi oh

who doesnt
Shit looks fly!
Gonna make a custom captain general for him in 40k, KITBASH AWAY!
please do add magnus' feather
Oh I will!
Not gonna be that hard tbh, might need to figure out how to do the arms though..
As the standard captain general pose is holding his weapon vertically while kitten holds his facing down but horizontally
The hotter the forge, the finer the blade, or so they say.
Edit 23.12.22: Added pre-supported General in .lys format for Lychee slicer. Plus bonus head. Enjoy!
Remixed from/Kudos list:
Custodian Guard by jimsbeanz
Allarus termies by andrewmracette
Misericoridis by Winterburn
Philippine Monkey-Eating Eagle by arthur corod
Golden eagle by b...
Ew
3D model
Nah fuck you, kitbash means I can use him at official tournaments!
Aight, have it your way. Just trying to help is all.
Kitbash bros
Got some reiver helmets on the way to magnetize and kitbash grimaldus to look like the YouTube movie
Respect bro
Used a storm cast body and some custodes parts to make a custom shield captain
Why you need them??
Anyone know of any astrogranite alternatives
From the vallejo basing line for example, or anything of the sort
Super duper tryhard dark angel deathwing terminators kitted with shield and hammer. Unga bunga.
Terminator box for deathwing only comes with 1 hammer
Thank you! I was looking at the grey pumice, this looks a lot closer!
Using that, also its black so can be painted. you wont see any difference between that and astrogranite in the end
Use the grey knights boxes
Reading about Ciaphas Cain for the first time... Wtf is this guys fortunate antiluck? 😄
You ever try the regular black lava? Buying through amazon and the asphalt there is 25 bucks for some reason. Assuming it's similar, but can't find a direct comparison
will probably have the same effect tbh, if it is black you can paint it if needed
Kitbashing a Deff Dread
Silly little beasties
they just want hugs
That's amazing! Where did you get those plants from?
I almost bought some seraphon yesterday once I saw the new froggy reveal. Looking into Lord Kroak and the engine of the gods atm
I bought the plastic plants from Amazon. Snipped the anchors off and glued them in place. I think they were intended for dioramas or cake decorating
Thats a gunpla head lol
Oh
Its much more than just a head
It's a 10th of the price of a GW deff dread is what it is
Plus some free bits I fished off of friends/traded
I used a dusting of green flock with artificial grass on top. Wanted to make it jungle-like
Here's one I did some time ago, way less modified
Big daddy in background nice
Certainly does! Love it
I started assembling Mortarion, It's so satisfying but all the details scare me
Would the horus primarches minis work for the respected 40k army?
in what sense? Horus is very dead in 40k
No like
The salamanders primarch from the sub game of horus
Or the death guard dude whos name im not gonna try to spell
not really. Only Guilliman has rules, and the model is quite different
But if you wanted to proxy a primarch as Guilliman (or Abaddon) it would be OK i think
It depends on your opponent, but if your model looks reasonable volume-wise and has the same base/roughly the same height I don't see why not
Unless you're going to tournaments, but I don't do tournaments
It would be a suitable proxy for a daemon prince on foot? It wouldn't really be fair to use as the daemon primarch
I'd be fine if the base was a mite taller
So his head was about in the same place
But that's just me
I think the important question is, if the proxy is a comparable size, would you want to play against an opponrnt who strongly objected against you using that mini?
no, but i wouldn't try it at events without TO permission
lol I used to run whole proxy armies
I also had a daemon Magnus which was 3 magnuses in a trenchcoat, but never tried that one out for real
I'd be fine with it as a daemon prince, and the primarch if you made it a bit tallee
Current progress on intercessor squad.
anyone here can show me a picture of a Cadian 8th Flagbarer?
much thanks in advance
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ee/da/d9/eedad9c768aeb98a215e75ea3f352a22.jpg
(not mine, but wanted to help)
Like the american confederal blue cross it seems
hmm weird im trying to research a bit about regiment flags
ive got told that iron cross is not part of any flag because some people got offended somehow
Tell this the Black Templars xD
Or any "Crux Terminatus" wearer
dude i kid you not had to change my profile pic to not get called a nazi anymore thats why i try to understand if its true that "there is no iron cross depicted in warhammer 40k"
Do any of you know when those rocket launcher wielding space marines are coming out?
soon tm
yeah but thanks anyways for the quick response, much appriciated
I think they look really cool, they will look good on my shelf
The Black templars cross is a variant of iron cross and a variant of iron cross is still used by the german military... so what?
Internet is a beast but when you look at the history of this kind of cross, then its much more older than this "nazi" thing...
IKR?! but moderators told me "if you use an iron cross with RED,BLACK and WHITE colors" in it even if its a krieger symbol off the web i liked i should be expected to be called a nazi
something about suspicious fanart
but 291st has some sort of iron cross as well
am i tripping ?
i mean if RED, WHITE and BLACK are "nazi colors" in combination with a cross than BLACK TEMPLARS gonna get canceled i guess :/
im confused as fuck right now and try to make sence of it
Red Black and white is the old so called "Reichskriegsflagge" of the German empire before the "3rd Reich"... Yeah those unworthy people missused many signs so that they are problematic today... Thats a thing.
I think there is also some kind of ToS thing (or something in that direction) that prohibits to use such signs in discord...
And yes the Black Templars have those colorscheme and also a variant of the iron cross... but the whole BT Setup is made from the Crusader Orders of Templars and Teutonic order in general.... that's why you can't say it's a "nazi" thing....
And i play BT btw xD
i know im from germany im very aware of my countries history and stuff
Ah another german one ^^ me tooo
its even funnier when you know the origin of the swastika and its original meaning
am german aswell sadly lol
but im just trying to understand
Have u tried telling the people who assume you are a nazi to "get fucked"?
i had this as profile pic
i can see how that one can be misunderstood
and some weird pronoun keept calling me a nazi
Well... i wouldnt care too much about what pronouns on discord think. They are some very emotionally turbulent people
And this is why history is so important... Even Kriegsman equipment is in some general parts leaned to french armor design xD
Yeah uhhh
Helmet a mixture of french helmet with other parts xD
That's a pretty bad profile pic tbh
also
exactly i just tried to have a conversation about what influenced the MkIX helmet of the kriegers and suddenly i get called the "european N word"
saying "some pronouns" genuinely makes you seem alot less sympathetic
Straight up
Not a good look
Maybe not leaning into iron cross imagery is a good idea
that
im sorry i didnt mean to offend everyone can be what ever they indentify as or what ever
Iron cross came from prussia and was adopted by germany. Many things from facist Germany have made their way into 40k because humanity are not good guys
Its a non issue
Fascist german iconography, whatever its origins, is these days associated more closely with the adoptor than the origin
The origin no longer really matters in the public view
Oh look more crosses
To be fair it could set someone in a "direction" in case of the look... But with some explanation and also when i think about a huge british company builds thins on those stuff, it should be something people can discuss even when the result is dis sense...
But yeah it has a "flavour" that is heavy to put aside... This as a "Banner" on a miniature that is clearly fantasy... okay.... Alone yeah....
but the iron cross still gets used today by german forces why is it politicly incorrect ? makes no sence ?
Nup the maltese variant of the iron cross 😉
Sylta these people live on being offended.
You do you
You arent a nazi, you just like the kreig
Is all good
thanks...
If people want to have a problem with that, thats their personal problem
@lean snow i can see what people offends, but i think they struggle up reality with fantasy in that moment... The context is the key.
No one is going to or should defend nazis
But if you are in a warhammer 40k group?
Cmon now
Cmon

yeah its okay i see how they maybe confused it but still its not cool just get to read stuff like THIS
If it's in a WH40k Group, then it's BS cuz' then every crux terminatus is bad xD
Honestly i think its super rude to come at you for that
Especially since you are german
Because just like with nordic runes, specific numbers, specific initials, a symbol of a drop of blood, etc. its being used by neonazis
Ahem
Fuck neo nazis
just being bald here in germany makes some people think you are one
Being bald here in the US also makes you one here too, I cant count the times I have been beaten for not having hair.
In my country if you are bald we just assume you have bad genetics....
well thank you guys for the infos you helped me a lot. i was going a bit insane because of that today
Im sorry for your struggles bros and broettes
facts the uniform and gasmask are from france adn britian
Dont worry about what people say honestly. Most people dont know historical contexts and always let NNs have everything they touch, I mean hell, 4chan proves this frequently after all
4chan is more infested with neets who jerk off several times a day than nazis. Theres clearly NNs there tho. But the vast majority are just really really horny and sad folks
I dunno' how other germans have experienced is but since i was old enough to understand ( age of 8) i got told what kind of historical burden the germans have...
My father was part of the german army, i have liven 18 years with NATO members together near or on military bases cuz' my father was ordered to different military bases in his duty..
And the thing i have experienced is, that most germans are really really put into thinking about what happened in WWII and what went wrong...
Today i'm a guy that makes medieval reenactent of teutonic order and who plays Black Templars cuz of the teutonic order connection.
Make those thing me to a (neo) nazi? No! Why? cuz i respect anybody who also respects me.... Just don't piss me off and everything is alright.
yes but they also go way out of their way to get the media to think something is being used by NNs
Yeah 4chan ruined the ok hand sign and then supremacists actually adopted it
in school we still get tought mostly in history AND religion just that we germans bad we must still feel bad for what our ancestors did
they also adopted pepe the frog
wait if i remember the Forceshilds from the terminators of Daw of War 2 werent they also CROSS shaped ?
But pepe is very precious
They still are... my stormterminators have iron cross shields xD
so if these SHIELD make it through PC-quality assesment than why cant i use the other profile pic?
Even the Minis have them...
Did a mod tell you to change it?
they SUGGESTED it since i send a complaint about the insults
that was their solution
Oh well if the mods dont care I wouldnt care either
But Im also very stubborn and rowdy and would dig my heels in and say "no i like this picture, its not what u think, get fucked"
There is one unpainted @native spear
ah thats very nice
good i can find rest now
i thought so as well
This never gets old... While deployment abroad some 'muricans called me all the time "kraut" until i "krautet" them down the stairs xD
well i dont mind a joke or a meme but straight up insults are a bit rude imo
And their parents just said "why you bully a german guy? can't go well" ^^
Public discord for a recently released game is going to attract some very sensitive people unfortunately
There are some dumb ones that think those "n" thing is the thing but they are not as many in germany as in other countries xD... Years ago i saw a documentation of US Neonazis that were more organized and pretty dangerous in comparison to the actual german scene....
Ye this is a thing... as always...
well that is proberly its been 8 years since i last been on a public one joined this one to met likeminded people i can talk hours about books an coating while playin the game
and the memes of course
Im here because ||i genuinely enjoy playing darktide|| and painting minis
same
So to get this right:
- You like WH40K
- You like especially Deathcorps of Krieg
- You like building Minis
- You like Lore, Books, Memes etc.
- For the short impression i have you don't like anykind of asshole behavior
- Last but not least you are a german one
My opinion: Feel free to ask, discuss etc. nothing wrong here
well thanks for the kind words. it just buggered the hell out of me today
I actually hate some groups that are toxic and call anyone who is German a nazi
well if its getting worse i just make my self look like alpharius they will never find me
Don't forget internet is a beast... But there are always some people that can get offended fast... just don't listen to them, cuz they don't know you like 99,99% of the net ^^
I got called a nazi because I said that not all German vehicles were nazi vehicles in ww2
Das auto
Then I said that not all soldiers who fought were fighting as Nazis.
yea i know i just kinda lived in my 40k bubble to escape all of this madness ya know?
Right ^^ like the "t" for czech vehicles e.g.
me too 😉 and i got it on the double cuz im a son of an ex-soldier xD
A ton of people are arrogant and uneducated on how thousands of soldiers that were fighting for the Germans were forced into military service.
for me it was my grand pa ( and no he didnt fell of the watch tower....)
I agree with you. They were the German army. Many of which joined the army as at the time it was seen as a way to become seen as a hero while the pay was very good
Exactly.
Just remember your family, they are to you what they are... And this is what matters for you. The rest is something historians can discuss about.
yep 17 years old 2 weeks before "abitur" then 2 weeks of hell then surrendered to british forces, he spend time until 20 disarmiung arialbombs that didnt go off
I read a book written by a German tank commander, and he talked about how some British soldiers he captured were very greatful that the Germans stopped shooting at them when they bailed out of their tanks
He told them he forbid anyone to do so as the tank had been destroyed and the crew was no threat
anywas thanks again
i dont have much to give but here take this just in case you have to grab something from the #zealot-class
Painting detox building is going well
Cadian 8th best regiment
Blood Angels are pretty fun to paint
that looks so well done
Aw thanks! I’m actually quite new, drybrushing has been a massive crutch for me but I can’t stop loving it
It gets me a nice weathering effect that’s a lot softer than others I’ve seen
Lol I thought old Angron models were goofy but checkout this before and after for Magnus:
The glowup
After reading Gate of Bones I'm kind of interested in making an Imperial Knight army, are they actually viable on the tabletop at all?
yes but they have issues winning
its a noob crusher army, anyone who knows anything about the game tends to beat them easily
what's their issue? just not enough units?
You dont use the large ones, just armigers
if you use the large ones you dont have enough obsec
that would explain why the armigers are all sold out on the GW website
It only has the German skirt. The elongated (oval, not circle) shape and crest are French/Prussian. The round shape is only for one third-party action figure. Kriegs just have the ear/neck skirt.
they've been sold out for months and not because of the popularity of knights
I have secured my Angry Ron and Juggernaut lord pre-order from my FLGS
It's easier to slap a crest on a stalhelm than a skirt on an adrian helm, and a lot of people think Krieger's are German on account of the name, thus the design sticks-around a lot.
Thanks for the info though, I managed to make Asuryani work for me in BFG:A2 so maybe this would be a nice strategy challenge, I've never touched the tabletop but nothing has made me want to as much as the Knights
the tabletop is crazy unbalanced, the most effective armies arent designed for killing but for capping points
killy armies tend to not work well
I'd suggest playing it on TTS before investing in the game
3d printer go brrr
just need to find a good proxy to start with, and maybe flavor it up a bit
Progress pic of the Deff Suit (Deff Dread)
My first nightlord, camera quality a bit trash
Workin on ole High Marshal Helbrect and Castellan, only been building and painting the models for about 2 months so please any advice is greatly appreciated.
Good work!
Thank you, excited to get to the rest
I love the 3d printing warhammer community
and how they subtly try to spread things around
Subtly?!
Here's a small custom modular part I designed for this bigger thing, enjoy....... btw if you have trouble downloading it get it from this drive link
drive link is the entire bigger thing and more
They dont do any subtly which is a problem for those of us who do sculpting and don't want any GW to know anything about the thing, I'm at 4 cease and desist letters from them now because of you guys.
Should I go for another coat of primer on this marine or is it good enoigh
Why it's it so speckly?
I shall call him speckley jim
I have no idea I'm thinking maybe I didn't spray close enough?
There's a lot of possibilities there
I'll just hit it with another coat in the morning once this one sets
How close should I be when I spray
depends on conditions like humidity and temperature. But general 20-30 centimeters in short bursts coming from side to side.
Sprayed again, but it may be too cold which is why
I do weapons and heads tomorrow, and maybe some detailin
The cold will make it speckly. But I find the white primer spray always comes out a little funky.
Ooooh very nice camo sir
I can't do camo to save my life, that's why I paint Custodes
Cool zealot, where's the tank tho?
All I see is a sister repentia
Thank you, this is my first time trying a camo pattern.
"You fool! You did such a good job on the camo paint we can't find our tank!"
I tried to do a splinter camo, maybe next time I'll try that style of camo
Also guess who pulled the trigger and bought an airbrush?
ME
Guess who still hasn't used it for fear of messing up?
Also me
Its kinda random but also loosely based off of ww2 German tank camo.
I should probably invest in one
Some examples.
Nice historical pics... Especially the last one with Pz.Kpfw. III & IV... The "h" Variant is best looking in my opinion.
still have a Pz.Kpfw. VI Ausf. A "Tiger" as 1:35 kit here, but still unable to build it...
The corner of a sponge can be good for that
That's a good idea. I just tried to freehand and it did not go well haha. I ended up just doing the classic camo splotch
the "german snake camo" can be well done with airbrush... my father used to do this freehand with airbrush....
If you want some practice try it on the underside if he tank first as you won’t see that when it’s done
needs to be something like 60f at least for sprays to work correct
Love en
Ornstein is that you?
Use it for priming and maybe some varnishing!
Current WiP status of my BT Intercessors... next up bagpacks & helmets
what airbrush?
Just a cheap one with a compressor on amazon to start. Master airbrush I think it's called
master is ok, its meh but not complete garbage
Love painting black Templar
Why does my contrast paint keep doing this? Every video I've seen it goes on flawlessly but when I try to use it it ends up looking like trash
@jaunty trail oh a nice little combo I found, relic terminator squad (sergeant must have powerfist)
Chaplain relic barer
1CP stratagem
Or 5 bladeguard and an emperor’s champion inside a repulsor
Nice
You'll learn why when we go over stuff
its flawless because they fail to tell you that you need to have brush control and understand paint
Which apparently, I do not
it comes naturally after a while, its way slower if you focus on guides and tutorials
Oh not sure if I showed you this but I made a blood angel on the quick a while back sort of kit bashing some of the assault and regular intercessor kits
I WISH I could get my paint that clean
its easy, dont think about it too hard
That was just water down mephiston
It required about 2-3 coats but left a smooth finish
The best way to ensure that citadel base paints come out smooth is to ensure they are thinned, a little water dropper is perfect to apply a few drops of water into the pot and shake thoroughly
Another recent example, I have been working on this guy for about 2 weeks
Just make sure you are using distilled water, if you are dripping it into the paint pot, since it can promote bacterial and fungal growth otherwise.
That’s just nurglings
Custom shield captain is nearly done
Ooo yes
How long you been working on him?
Hes been an on and off project
Maybe 2 days in work time
Got the worst part left, the Cape to do 
Drop it in the pot??
Like how many drops are we talking
Like 5-10 drops of water work fine
Alright I'll buy a new pot of mephiston red and try it to see if it works
Just use distilled water, unless you want to turn your mephiston red into fuzzy stinky green.
Shhh that’s how you make your own orks
Hey paint thinner is a thing
Thats what I used for my khorn red mainly because it got thick for some reason
Should I redo the sword though?
Why? It’s perfect as is
I am painting Grimaldus today. Attain hype
still workin on my helbrect this am, really enjoying painting him
Hes such a sick model.
Right?!
Saying this next time get i him in combat
That’s fantastic
Really enjoy seeing all the people that have been at this for way longer, some badass stuff put out
Currently have a chaplain who’s beaten an ork dread to death single handedly
Meet the very angry chaplain Richter
Yes!!! Another cultured Templar Tarenetus owner
dont drop it into the pot...
knee stuff, i always have so much trouble with that
angry boi
love his model
Will post Grimmy in a bit. Meanwhile, have some bladeguard
They're halfish done
lookin very clean :D
literally just distilled water and .35% surfactant. Unless its the chemical based ones
Haven’t done mine yet. Buuuut the gold imperialis is going to have to be yoinked
Heavy intercessors from last week I believe, any tips, please greatly appreciated, only been building and painting for about 2 months
That bladeguard is on point
im bad at the pauldron lines as well
Emperor’s champion with a cybernetic helmet instead
Shoulder pads are best done off the model. Put a little sticky tack on the back and use the tip of a pencil to hold it
Omg duh, thank you so much
Love that helmet, like my robo gillyman, I’ve got my smurf army, black templars, and necrons.
Thank you
I’ve been making my Iton warriors lately but I’m going back to the Templars soon
Yea my Templars have been expanding here recently
I’ve actually got a bunch of lore for mine
Been playing a ton of deathwing so I’ll be making some dark angels.
Oh that you’ve come up with for your individual dudes?
That’s awesome, I’ve been wanting to start that.
I have a friend who’s doing dark angels @median thistle
Yeah
Yea that’s awesome
And I play them in the same way, so richter is always a smash chaplain
Haha!
Currently in the process of making a first born Demi company because I haven’t mastered deathwing colours yet lol
Bone colour is hard
They look freakin stellar to me
But here’s a company champion because they do exist
Nevermind discord says it’s explicit
The company champion is too sexy for everyone here im afraid
Understandable
They went that way
I really dig the older minis, like the primaris ones but the older ones are so unique
It’s been great to build them because once you learn to pose them right and kit them out they all start looking great
It just takes some time to learn to not make them look weird
Yea that’s what I ran into early on
So what do your deathwing look like?
Oh that game has hands down the best atmosphere of any warhammer game
Ahhhhh
The problem was the gameplay loop was very small
Deathwing go brrrr
Right? Love stomping around in terminator armor destroying tyranids
This is what happens when I don’t read through the conversation
Yeaaa, I’m playing it a good bit but trying to mix in other stuff so I don’t get burnt out
Yeah that’s a good idea
The actual terminator models in that game though are second to none
Chaps with a souped up crozium and stormbolter so much armor penetration haha
Def
And I’ve actually got marneus Calgar coming in with 2 vitrix guards, then my deathwing will begin
I liked the combi bolter
I used that one for awhile and decided to switch the the regular one and it just feels punchier. I love the bolter tarentus came with, bolter/flamer, for when you just wanna be a jerk lol.
Oh and the Templars can give him the relic flamer which is a heavy bolter equivalent
Just saying
Oh really?
Breath of the throne I think it’s called
Oh I saw that when I was perusing the app I think.
No, no I didn’t, can’t find tarentus on it
He’s just a terminator chaplain
Oh that’s all I plug him in as?
Give him a combi flamer and that’s it
Gotcha, thank you
No worries
Tarentus is just the name of the model cuz he was a limited edition model
No clue which chapter he’s even from
Because he has no chapter symbols
So that’s where he went lol
Nope I lied, I keep misreading crap
This was done in December, not great, not good, but this stuff helps keep me sane and I’m so glad I decided to jump in.
Need to add all the company and chapter stuff to him.
good color
i like it and appreciate it!
Ahhh funky
well i wasnt a fan of just the gold so i threw some yellow in and really dig it for anything that needs that gold
What’s the blue you use?
that one was caledor sky but usually macragge blue for smurfs
Is that one also a layer paint
both are bases
Ahh okay, then make sure to not apply the paint too thick
A few layers is generally better as it doesn’t set big thick lines
yea im getting better at it
will keep practicing
thats an issue i ran into with some of my templars
With which colours the black?
i just put too many layers and it messes up the details
Yeah slightly watery paint often leaves a nice smooth finish as the cost of needing an extra layer or two
yea thats what i read in the convo earlier, added a couple drops of water and it helped tremendously
Has with mine
Should I make some lahmian medium? I bought some matte medium to put on waterslides but I have like...a ton of it.
Is the recipient just matte medium+water+a drop of dish soap?
Is it better to use than water when thinning paint?
I can’t comment I’ve never used it
Neither have I
yup no idea.
lol i accidentally mixed an astartes and a neophyts armor so he looks interesting.
YES
You can tell how thick the paint is and he’s not finished. Not thrilled with earlier stuff but this is how we learn
Not done yet, so I think he will look ok, but if I hadn’t gone so thick he would wind up so much better.
Did you just paint that lol
He’ll just run around the battlefield yelling dom
Nope haven’t touched him in about a month
God damn he’s shiny then
Right?! Some of mine are shiny as hell lol
What paint did you use 😂
That’s like the colour black is when it’s just came out of a pot
Macragge blue then contrast black Templar
I have never seen black Templar be that shiny before
Well you’re welcome haha 😂 😂😂😂
Also contrast paints are generally meant to be used on much brighter base paints like white and cream
Castellan is much better, did him yesterday
Yup, no additional black besides my base coat to this guy, his axe is the only place I used anymore black painr.
Axe is layer iron breaker then the black Templar paint
See I learn lol
Yeah that’s a lot better
It’s okay if it makes you feel better I have my first minis still
See my plan is to blind the shit out of them with the shiny Templars then have the regular ones flank the shit out of them
Oh man I dig it, I’ll probably keep my first ones for as long as they’ll keep, all part of the process.
Love it, helps show us how much we improve
Exactly
My daughter wants to build and paint the sororitas, so I’ll probably post those here too
Go for it, gives you a challenge to make sure you don’t get out done by her
Psh she will beat my ass in a few weeks, she loves to paint, etc.
You got warp lightning? Was the black in it. It'll set in the letters and will make them green ish
Can be done with other contrasts if you want different colours
beep boop, finished some necrons!
I was thinking about painting the lettering, but chose not to after seeing that their black in the pictures
One of my very first guys.

