#40k-minis-and-armies

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rare hornet
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He’s looking amazing

deft fable
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The white and purple balance is too difficult I retried about 4 times

rare hornet
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It is a lot of trail and error

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You’ve made good work out of that

rustic portal
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Finished another Skiitari

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The next one:

dark violet
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looks so damn good

tawny topaz
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Beautiful

hazy meadow
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Those guys will turn out great

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Just finished my stinky army

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  • bases, They’re sloppy and bathed in oil but as shit as they look, they are stinky
floral wind
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Spent hours. Just on this one torso and a pair of arms that I was too dumb to realise were for a different trooper in the squad

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So this one is gonna to wait for his arms cos I'm a dumbass

errant fulcrum
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Neophytes finished

deft fable
jaunty edge
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Did some metal chipped too

mighty gust
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Nice work, magnets?

hazy meadow
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I got rushy at the end and only ended up highlighting one dude @deft fable so I’m definitely going to go back and do them at some point, I basically just slathered most of them in oil to look dirty until I highlight them better. They look like shit but technically that’s lore accurate thumbsup_ogryn

deft fable
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@hazy meadow Bombed them

hazy meadow
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I started with black primer but ended up going dg green primer to again save time because I’m lazy

deft fable
hazy meadow
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At least I got a tad better by the end of them, still horrid but first model compared to most recent I see some improvements

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Guy on left was last I did

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Def improvement from my first guy above

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Going to start tackling mortarion probably next weekend

dark violet
tiny jay
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They look so much better than carapace armored SM scouts.

errant fulcrum
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they're not scouts

tiny jay
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I know, point stands though.

errant fulcrum
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fair enough

tiny jay
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I want to find some bare arms for a couple of my phobos marines that came in the Moroch kill team set.

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A fried suggested one of the necromunda gangers arms but I'm not really planning to buy a whole sprue just for a couple of marines.

compact umbra
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oh my god- speed paints are amazing

jaunty edge
plush swift
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Because they sell them instead

sharp thicket
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How do I get the role so I can post images too? It's lookin like a Skitarii day today

pale edge
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Instead I got more Blood Angels transfers

plush swift
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also if you want to paint them easily, paint them in reverse

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light to dark, not this weird dark to light stuff that makes things way harder to do free hand stuff

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then stencil it out with a hobby blade

pale edge
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Hobby blade is not a bad idea at all

sweet sinew
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@jaunty trail first coat done and drying, tomorrow is cleaning up spots (or leaving them to fill in with battle damage) and then details

rare hornet
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Rhino hype

dark violet
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i kinda want a sororitas one

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but theres alot to paint on it

cursive gyro
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Love the interior

plush swift
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Rhinos are so cool

cursive gyro
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I know it looks like a clown-kopta

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And I fucking love it

rustic portal
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I was thinking about getting a 2nd little army... What about a little army of the imperial fists?

cursive gyro
rustic portal
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Yes

cursive gyro
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Go ahead then!

rustic portal
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I have 38 colours ready

cursive gyro
last osprey
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Was going for a battle-worn look for this

cursive gyro
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I would suggest lighty brushing the edges of the red plates in Iron paint like leadbelcher

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Makes them look more worned down

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Plus some slight tuff of Iron on the plate themself to make them look scrapped

sweet sinew
sweet sinew
# cursive gyro Love the interior

Thanks, I did my best to paint in between breaths so my lines would be straight. It’s hard to tell but the crosshair thing I painted on the circular screen is hella crooked

azure fulcrum
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Petition to rename Predator Tanks to Discord Moderator Tanks

sweet sinew
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Adeptus Discordatus

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Lowest form of data collectors for the imperium

azure fulcrum
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Munitorum Issue Data Decryption Leggings

sweet sinew
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Speaking of the interior of my tank, I am gonna try my hand at painting muddy foot prints on that back door/ramp

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I’ll be sure to put updates in here

lethal hound
last osprey
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I'll keep that in mind

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I use Nuln Oil on all my Skitarii

naive umbra
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I'll show myself out

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I've seen a cool technique for weathering paint chips that uses a piece of sponge dipped in either a steel or brown (if more corrosion) colour and once removing most of the paint off the sponge, lightly dappling the edges of the mini. You get all these small flecks of your colour that look like chipped paint. Going to do it to a bunch of my Tau battlesuits.

mint dove
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How do I do the slapchop meathod? Will I have to only use contrast paints?

brisk vapor
atomic rose
mint dove
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Alright cool, I've got an unpainted primaris I'm gonna try it on

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ALSO

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I'm getting better at controlling paint consistency, I think this is the best base coat I've made

lavish crescent
rare hornet
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Progress update on the warpsmith

winged lava
rare hornet
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so I've been removing a bunch of spikes and such. I can get away with the decorative skulls thanks to being Iron Warriors

dark violet
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Really liking the colors

rare hornet
dark violet
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You got any rust effect colors?

rare hornet
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The exhausts on the top of his back are made from melta gun barrels, as I wanted to get rid of the screaming faces

rare hornet
dark violet
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Aww

atomic rose
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You don't need any special paint for rust. Just brown and orange.

rare hornet
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Although dry brushing, or sponging an orangy brown kinda works

dark violet
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I really need to learn more techniques

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And get some better brushes and colors

rare hornet
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My proudest achievement though is the engine on a Meganob

dark violet
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Wow

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Also still love ork unit names

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Meganob

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Brain boiz

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Boiz

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Fly boiz

rare hornet
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Nice and simple

dark violet
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Can you get the weaponized moon the orks used as a unit?

rare hornet
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For another game I think you can?

dark violet
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Aww just imagine it in normal 40k

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Instant win

atomic rose
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What's the fun in that?

rare hornet
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to simulate it you are required to throw a basket ball at the table

dark violet
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Or how far can you use the ork belief power in tabletop?

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Like can you use a rock as a tank

copper siren
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Hearing hububs in the LGS and at GW store that 10th ed will be Dark Angels vs Nids as launch box

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And that the Lion is returning

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Would be cool

plush swift
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thats just a rumor people have had for a decade

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every edition they say that

copper siren
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A friend showed me all the"proof": tarot, arks of omen. Looks plausible

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With the lightning fast pace the lore is going

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The new wording in arks of omen supplement

plush swift
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its also GW, a company that forgets tau exists

copper siren
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"Primarch" instead of Roboute in the "allies" sections of the new rules

copper siren
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💪😤

atomic rose
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Wishfull thinking.

copper siren
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I want a lion 40k model, his 30k model is underwhelming

atomic rose
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Lion is probably the most boring loyalist Primarch there is.

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If I could choose, I'd want Corvus, preferably as dual form mini with his raven demon form, kinda like Morathi in fantasy.

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Or Khan, because Scars could use the boost in popularity. lul

plush swift
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We all know the best primarch that should return

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Ferrus Manus

atomic rose
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I'd be interested in Dorn returning as well. Wanna know where he at.

plush swift
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He locked himself in a ford focus by accident, he left the keys in the door

atomic rose
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I'd believe it.

plush swift
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Vulkan should also return

dark violet
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VULKAN LIVES

atomic rose
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stomp stomp

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GW was secretly working on returning EVERY SINGLE PRIMARCH, including the dead ones and the two lost ones, to the setting all at once during 10e. They were behind deadlines, which caused them tremendous amount of stress and therefore all the shit behaviour in recent decades.

rare hornet
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They should bring back Manus

atomic rose
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So they can decapitate him again immediately

sweet sinew
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New manus model comes with a magnetic neck piece, so you can flick off his head at will

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Rip Iron Hands

median thistle
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Well they said they’re making new primarch models at the height of the heresy so it’ll just be manus’ head

sudden notch
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Man i need to get better paints. Revells white is utter garbage

lean snow
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Jumpy boy

brisk vapor
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luv me inceptors

brazen notch
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Arbites time

dark violet
sweet sinew
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Become the hounds we dread to fight

errant fulcrum
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Got one initiate done last night

plush swift
sudden notch
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I am not going to find those in my town

plush swift
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You probably will very easily actually

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art stores, craft stores, etc.

sudden notch
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I am too stupid/lazy to figure those things out without constantly hesitating about it and ultimately dropping it

sweet sinew
plush swift
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Oh fun fact, I found a lawyer who is taking up the lawsuit against multiple hobby paint companies as a class action lawsuit due to their mislabeling of non-toxic

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@azure fulcrum

plush swift
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We found higher than the legal limits of chloromethylisothiazolinone/methylisothiazolinone in most of their paints multiple times, pigments that require prop 65 labeling to be sold in cali, etc

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Vallejo flow improver is also listed as non-toxic on the bottle and it's 2-butoxy-ethanol, which is incredibly poisonous

lean snow
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Meanwhile my buddy puts the tip of his paintbrush in his mouth to get the perfect tip...

plush swift
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Yeah, I'm doing this because you people have paint drinking contests all the time

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and do dumb stuff like lick your brush

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I have a bottle of an oil wash that says non-toxic on it, which no.. it contains turpentine

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currently dealing with some medical doctors over how high the increased risks of cancers are too with certain things. I'm hoping we can get the ball rolling by 2025

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I'm trying to get as much factual data to cause these companies to actually put real labels on the paints and have governments rethink their lack of paint regulations

lean snow
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I work with heavy metals. Like any toxic metal you can think of.

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So when my buddy told me thats how to get the perfect tip

sudden notch
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Mmm toxic metals

lean snow
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I looked at him with disgust

sudden notch
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Yum

plush swift
lean snow
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Im already gonna get turbo cancer when i retire. I dont need to get turbo cancer sooner

plush swift
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and good that you looked at him

lean snow
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I called him a paint sucking degen in truth

sweet sinew
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A little toxic paint never killed anyone do not fact check this

plush swift
sweet sinew
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I wonder if the paints that the space marines use to decorate their armor is nontoxic

lean snow
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Is there anyway to save a brush once it starts to fray? My favorite 000 liner brush wont get a nice tip anymore and is fraying out. Brush soap didnt help and neither did some gsw bruah restorer

plush swift
sweet sinew
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But that’s unfortunate, I hope nobody got any sort of reactions from the stuff in the paints

plush swift
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I'm have serious problems with methylisothiazolinone, where it melts my skin which is a more extreme case compared to the normal dermatitis, hence why I cant use most shampoos or a lot of liquid soaps

sweet sinew
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For more minis 😈

plush swift
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I aint rich, but I aint exactly poverty

sweet sinew
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Oh yeah, but some extra cash from a company that caused you harm is always nice

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And hopefully they will change their ways

mint dove
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Anybody have a good reccomendation for Metallics for drybrushing? I use vallejo model color silver and vallejo game gunmetal but both seem to be kinda flaky and just end of leaving metallic specs on places I don't want after I use them to drybrush

plush swift
mint dove
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I'll spend a little more if it means getting good metallic drybrushing

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Reccomend me some preem paint pigment master

plush swift
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Go to Jackson's and get Lascaux studio bronze. You can also look for something called metallic acrylic gouache, Turner makes it and I don't know who else I haven't tried it but I have a feeling it would work really good as a dry brush though I am planning on picking some up very soon because I really do want to test it myself.

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Now remember one really important thing, lascaux studio bronze is not something you should use in an airbrush or ever lick. Also you need to be very careful with it because it is not environmentally friendly, like most metallic paints, however they list on the bottle that it's not. The aluminum is the safest of them all for environmental and your own health

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The Britannia silver contains chromium metal, The gold all contain zinc and copper, which means don't get that on your skin and definitely don't lick your brush or a brush that has been in the same cup as those, etc

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They are phenomenal metallic paints, but don't fuck around with them. Unless it's the aluminum because that's relatively safe compared to all the other ones

mint dove
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It shows how fed up with the finish vallejo gives me I'm willing to damage the planet and my body to get clean metallic drybrushing. Thanks corspe

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I'm gonna exceed the tabletop acceptable ranking if it kills me

plush swift
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If you really want to exceed it, I'll give you a couple hour class for free

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And I mean past the basic for free stuff

naive umbra
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Like the studies about how eating processed meat increases your risk

plush swift
marsh nimbus
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But paint go brrrr.

plush swift
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Paint go slorp

atomic rose
mint dove
plush swift
plush swift
mint dove
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Lol I was just put for 2 weeks with covid so I understand the boredom lol

plush swift
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I will be very very bored

mint dove
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I think on my spare primaris marine I'm gonna try that slapchop method I've been seeing around

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Although yesterday I think I dialed in the paint consistency for basecoating

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My best bass coat yet I think

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There's that little ridge part on top of the shoulder I think I may paint that and thr ridge on the other shoulder yellow, I feel like that may be a good denotator of a heavy shock troop

shy epoch
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I like army painter plate metal (I think it’s called that) works good on chainmail for havocs

devout lake
mint dove
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How can I best paint Green lenses? I usually just paint on some Vallejo Game Dead white then put some Vallejo mecha Flourescent green over it but it never looks the way I want, I have a few other greens to choose from (Valljeo model color Intermediate green,Vallejo Game Dark green and goblin green) as well as Vallejo Game sunburst yellow, how exactly can I paint the lenses better to male them pop

finite rain
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depends on what kind of lenses and what look you going for XD

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somewhat older model

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lenses = scheme, dark green base color, then going brighter into one direction, and the white dot on the other side basically.

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works with pretty muchh whatever lense color, red, blue, green, technique is the same

quasi coral
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Crisp marine man

finite rain
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thx

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@mint dove you can check duncan rhodes baneblade on yt, he paints quit a lot of lenses on there and explains the technique rather good imo

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then its a mattter of colors you pick

mint dove
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Ahh okay I'll give that a shot, eyes are just VERY hard to do in general

quasi coral
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Lil templar buddy I'm working on

lean snow
finite rain
rare hornet
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Looking very good

hazy meadow
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I've been struggling to get my highlights that straight/crisp

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Not sure if i should use the tip of brush or side, even if its the tip it seems to be too thick, even with a 00

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that or it sort of goes over onto the other side when its a corner edge

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I watch videos of people painting and their brush looks so firm when applying a tiny amount of pressure, but even if I barely touch the tip with something it seems to sort of spread out...like a brush probably should

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I've used both sable and synthetic but none really seem firm which seems like it would help me with highlights

finite rain
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side, not a lot of pressure, and for edge highlighting actually it is important to have not to thin paint.

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hiding away before corpse_starch tells me now that i only have 2 weeks to live due to paint intoxination

hazy meadow
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Its okay I accidentally drank some leadbelcher yesterday

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I had my tea and paint cup side by side

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would you say the side of the tip or closer to the belly for hitting the highlights?

opal patio
devout lake
plush swift
plush swift
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just add yellows at the start

mint dove
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So base with white, then a coat of yellow then add whichever green I think woukd fit best? Thinned heavily of course so the yellow shines through

mint dove
swift shell
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Am i legally allowed to field a bunch of those shitty plastic green army men and say im running guardsman

lilac moth
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depends how legally we talking about

swift shell
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like will it work

lilac moth
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why not?

swift shell
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can i play a game without breaking the rules

lilac moth
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the models are just there as "markers" for where what is, you can use printed paper cutouts if you feel like it. But once you start going to official shit, they will get angry about pretty much anything not cattle branded by certified validated GW dollar sign

rare hornet
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Oh yeah official events are a no go for creativity

swift shell
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ok

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good

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then i can play my game against my buddy

dark violet
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get out you disgusting vermin

rare hornet
lilac moth
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"YOU MODIFIED THE WEAPON?! HOW DARE YOU"

dark violet
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you used a paint that isnt citadel brand?

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your water wasnt citadel brand?

rare hornet
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Your glue was from Tamiya?! That’s it arrest them and melt their models

lilac moth
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fucking referee whipping a mass spectrophotometer out to measure you actually did use citadel paints and did not dilude them with water but lahmian medium 😄

rare hornet
dark violet
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also 3 of my paints arent citadel lol

lilac moth
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the more i have gotten paints, the less they have been by citadel 😄

dark violet
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citadel was just more easily available plus had the colors i needed

rare hornet
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I get citadel for convenience

dark violet
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without me having to do research

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plus its cheaper here in germany for some reason

lilac moth
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Citadel color app is both a god send tool and an absolute trap card to have

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So many times i am just browsing the app for colors and wishlisting them so i can just whip out my phone and check what all paints i have been thinking about when i finally reach the store

dark violet
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dont have a warhammer store nearby

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atleast not a fully fledged one

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its more of a gun store lol

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could buy a boltor AND some nice red

floral wind
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Finally finished the first of my 5 man Grimguard command squad (note: the picture has had mild editing due to enhance some features)

dark violet
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looking good

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green plasma gun huh?

lilac moth
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I finally got a blue replacement for my tessaract glow today ❤️

light tiger
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That looks like a plasma shotgun.

Happiness noises

lilac moth
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no more green plasmies/energy weapons

dark violet
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no more disgusting necron green

floral wind
dark violet
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i dont have any good blue either

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my one plasma gun is basically very gray blue

floral wind
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Luckily I have a Space Marine hero who just so happens to have a plasma gun so I will try experimenting to get other plasma colours

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When I get around to it

lilac moth
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what did you use for the mud on that guys coat?

dark violet
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damn i just noticed the mud

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nice detail

lilac moth
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I like how its textured, gonna try copying that shit with my blood wet mud bases on my chaos marines

floral wind
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Then I just dabbed it all over the base and drybrushed it and him with mournfang brown

rare hornet
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Stirland paints are sooooooo good

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I really need to hurry up and finish my forge lord so I don’t have to keep reposting my old models 😅

floral wind
rare hornet
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So the mud that you have seems to be a smoother paint while battlemire is full of clumps and such

floral wind
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Ahh I see

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Thanks I may have to try that version at some point

rare hornet
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My iron warriors use battlemire for the bases. If you want an example (be aware that I’ve put washes on this one)

floral wind
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Oo that actually looks really good and the model is fantastic

rare hornet
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Thank you 😊

floral wind
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I shall add battlemire to my wishlist I feel like it would look better for my grimguard

rare hornet
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I would suggest using an old brush because believe me battlemire will ruin it

dark violet
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gotta wishlist both of those right now

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need a nice mud color

dark violet
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do i need to know what the difference is supposed to be lol

floral wind
dark violet
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they look so similar

rare hornet
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So mud is a lot smoother like a paste. Battlemire has clumps and such in more like thick mud

dark violet
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ahh okay thanks

floral wind
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Oh i am a dummy I read them both as mud lol

dark violet
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anyone used agrellan earth sofar?

split ore
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Hey I just started getting into this stuff and I have no idea what brushes I should be getting. Any ideas as to what I can start with?

lilac moth
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astrogranite gang!

split ore
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Maybe

opal patio
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A paint roller and nothing else

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who the fuck needs detail

lilac moth
rare hornet
opal patio
dark violet
split ore
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Awesome thanks I'm trying to do some research on things to buy to start with and there's just so much lol

opal patio
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I was asking cause I have agrellan badland

floral wind
opal patio
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yeah Agrellan badland is just brown with some bits in it

dark violet
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thats brown?

opal patio
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so I assume Earth is the same but it cracks as it dries

floral wind
opal patio
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it's alot more brown in person

split ore
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I got a wet pallate and some tools to start. Mostly the brushes are abit hard to understand what is good to start with

floral wind
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Ah nice

dark violet
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i like the idea of cracking dry ground for my bases

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well thanks but i shall now try to sleep instead

floral wind
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Honestly you can find decent brushes in any place like i found a really good small brush for higlights, eyes etc in a standard hobby shop

opal patio
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No idea why you'd show the wrong colour when you're quite literally advertising a fucking colour

lean snow
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Technically its agrellan badland

upbeat hearth
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is it normal to spend $200 on paints ?

lean snow
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Yes

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Buying paints is a hobby in itself

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You will only use half a dozen of what you have bought in the end

plush swift
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Probably one of those cheap chinesium nail file sets would be better

hard sand
plush swift
prime scarab
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Oh fuck

pastel grotto
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Uh oh

prime scarab
fathom smelt
prime scarab
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I want this

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but damn, very expensive. T_T

fathom smelt
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I need to get back to my white scars army building, but was distracted by the ASoFaI mini game

prime scarab
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I wonder if there's a way I can convert a HH Mortarion to be a generic lord for my 40k DG?

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okay, something actually cheap

errant fulcrum
azure fulcrum
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anyone know when the new kasrkin are coming out

limber widget
plush swift
plush swift
plush swift
grizzled jolt
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Do you require heavy equipment and supplies at the front lines? Get the new ogryn recruits to do so.

jaunty edge
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Finished the base

sudden notch
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i am eyeing the custodes combat patrol eagerly

sharp thicket
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Looks great

dark violet
dark violet
hazy meadow
azure fulcrum
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do all products restock periodically on GW's website or do they come back in at random?

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i've been waiting for a good 2 months now for Kill Team Legionaries and Blooded to get back in stock

mint dove
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I think I did a pretty good job on the lenses, they're a bit messy but that just makes it look like a glow efgect

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Rest of the head needs cleanup for sure

azure fulcrum
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you might need to apply thinner coats

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maybe im blind cause im not wearing my glasses atm but it looks like it might be a little thick

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what ratio do you use to thin your paint

mint dove
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I tend to go 1:1 or as close as possible, I think I messed up this tike and it turned put a wee bit thick

rare hornet
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The best way to paint marine eyes is to do the first then the helmet

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You have a little ridge to stop you from painting the eyes accidentally

dark violet
rare hornet
dark violet
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Mine don't have eyes lol

rare hornet
dark violet
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One of the. Is real ugly though

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Cuz I applied too much primer by accident

rare hornet
rare hornet
dark violet
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Both

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Spray for multiple

rare hornet
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Ah gotcha,

dark violet
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By hand just a layer of abbadon black

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My spray is just edding spray lol

rare hornet
dark violet
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Spray

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That one just got hit too much

rare hornet
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Hmm, maybe it might have been too close?

dark violet
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Blasted her by accident

rare hornet
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Ahh I see

dark violet
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Her front is thicker

rare hornet
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Yeah spraying can be hard

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You got to be so careful of what’s nearby otherwise you end up spraying them also XD

dark violet
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I sprayed then inside a box

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So no issue there

rare hornet
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Sweet

dark violet
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Gonna listen to disposable unit imperium remix while painting next time

rare hornet
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Immortal imperium is best track hands down

azure fulcrum
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you want like 1:10

azure fulcrum
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need to get all my tools ready so i can start making stuff

steep ether
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Quick question. What size bases would a beast of nurgle use?

dark violet
steep ether
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Getting 3rd party ones

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Ordering some industrial bits for a hive city look. Doing a Moebian regiment

dark violet
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nice

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how big is the nurgle beast

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cuz id say add like 30-40% of that ontop or so

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for nice area

azure fulcrum
dark violet
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i just go outside and pick up rocks

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voila

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a mountain

azure fulcrum
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when i start making scenery professionally it is the weak ones like you who shall bankroll my success

steep ether
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For my more naturalistic looking bases, I make my own, don't worry xD

azure fulcrum
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you WILL buy my professionally made scenery and bases made from literal garbage

steep ether
dark violet
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no

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ugh etsy

steep ether
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But these look really nice for my theme in mind

dark violet
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i hate their shipping costs

dark violet
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there are more countries than america etsy

azure fulcrum
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that is literally just like $10 worth of texture plasticard and some spare wires

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plus that way each base is actually unique

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save yourself some money and gain some experience, go buy the raw materials and make them yourself

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it doesnt take long either

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the only thing you might buy those for over making your own is the rivets

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not that you cant make those, they are easy to make, its just placing them thats a hassle

atomic rose
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Those bases look 3D printed to me

azure fulcrum
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they probably are

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which would make it even more of a scam

atomic rose
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If he made the files himself and has decend print quality control, I don't think so?

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You are only counting the price of raw materials, but the persons time has a cost as well.

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I like to be paid for my work. Don't you?

azure fulcrum
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ive thought about buying custom bases but the cost and lack of diversity in a lot of them makes it kinda eh

atomic rose
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Well, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but screaming at everyone they are getting scammed...I can't really vibe with that.

azure fulcrum
atomic rose
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It's a service for people who do not own a printer?

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He probably does sell the files as well. He just sells made bases for people who can't print them themselves.

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Now the question is whether the person selling made bases made the .stl as well or purchased production licence with them

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or just hopes noone will find out

plush swift
azure fulcrum
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no they are all made by a patreon

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or at least thats what it looks like

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also a quick look at txarli factory online, you could make almost every one of their scenery pieces with a piece of XPS foam and 5 minutes of cutting tops

atomic rose
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Yeah, now multiple those 5 minutes by 20.

azure fulcrum
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i know im being super critical but i feel like printing literal rocks is kind of a waste of a 3d printer

atomic rose
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I can get those 20 bases done in about 15 minutes, including clean up

azure fulcrum
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but wheres the personal touch?

plush swift
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its not about a personal touch, its about getting results with less effort

atomic rose
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Not everyone is in the hobby for the artistry of it.

plush swift
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I have the skill to sculpt a spacemarine out of clay easily, doesnt mean i will

atomic rose
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I make some of my bases, I print some of my bases.

plush swift
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I mean I do think printing rocks is dumb because you can just go out side and use a real rock

azure fulcrum
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or xps foam for things like pillars or monoliths etc

atomic rose
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I have printed rocks before. They came with the .stls I purchased and were made to fit with the minis. What is wrong with that?

plush swift
atomic rose
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I had some place on build plate, so I printed more of those rocks and I use them here and there.

azure fulcrum
plush swift
sterile grail
azure fulcrum
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GW doesnt actually print though

atomic rose
azure fulcrum
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They still use injection molds

sterile grail
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cool

plush swift
gritty heron
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So I have ordered some custodes and I’m buying paints for them I’m debating on either auric armor gold or retributor armor which would you guys recommend

plush swift
azure fulcrum
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me once again getting hated for suggesting people just try actually making something themselves or not paying extra money to skip relatively easy steps

plush swift
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not everyone can do that or wants to, its about speed and efficiency a lot of the time

atomic rose
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Suggest all you want, you are getting awfully pushy and aggresive with it and that is just not a vibe. Let people hobby the way they want.

plush swift
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Making perfectly uniform bases is also very hard

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which is what most people want,

atomic rose
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Also good look making those particular bases easily as you seem to think. They might look simple, but they are actualy quite complicated. There are multiple levels and textures, meaning each plate has to be cut exactly to size, sanded, fit, gaps filled, details added...You say it would take 5 minutes. I make my own bases. 5 minutes is what glueing just a plate of card to a base and cutting it round will take you.

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If you want to replicate that, I can imagine spending 30-60 minutes on each base.

azure fulcrum
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I never said it'd take 5 minutes to make the bases

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I said 5 minutes to replicate the other stuff they print

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which are just undetailed large square rocks

atomic rose
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Aight, my bad. I misunderstood.

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My argument still stands tho. If you want to make those bases for a squad of 10 units, you are looking for 5-10 hours of just base building.

azure fulcrum
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I get that it would take time and effort, which is something not a lot of people have, or in the case of some people are scared of, and no i dont mean that as a joke or sarcasm, its genuine. People are scared of putting effort in sometimes. But think of the pride you can take in your work.

sterile grail
atomic rose
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You are not looking at it from a perspective of people with very limited hobby time.

azure fulcrum
sterile grail
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inmagine making fun people because of what they buy for their hobby

atomic rose
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There are also people who like painting, but not building.

azure fulcrum
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Did I ever insult anyone for buying them? No I just said it was overpriced trash that you can make for free with literal trash.

sterile grail
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its not trash thi

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its a product

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that people make a living from

atomic rose
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Imagine, buying miniatures when you can make them for free from mud.

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They'll be unique and you'll save money and get experience!

sterile grail
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lemme buy a 3d printer and make it for cheaper smh

azure fulcrum
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That's a bit of a disingenuous comparison.
It doesn't take much effort to slap some shit on a base after cutting it to size. Bit of a different story trying to sculpt an entire scale 30mm model.

sterile grail
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lemme build a brush from a broom i have in my room, its better than the profrssional grade brush

atomic rose
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Yes, it is argument ad absurdum. A lot of people feel exactly the same way about building their own bases.

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It's only a matter of where you personaly draw the line. Let other people have their own lines.

sterile grail
dark violet
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everyone likes whatever they want

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done

atomic rose
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@azure fulcrum Just to be clear, I am not saying your advice is wrong. Bases can be made cheaply with a little effort. I just take a little bit of an issue with the tone you deliver them. Especialy because that tone will make even good advice land on deaf ears. You may mean it in jokey and uplifting manner, but it does not seem that way in pure written text. It's mildly antagonistic. And so you ultimately do them more harm than good. Because they'll harden against you and your good advice, meaning they'll be less likely to take it. 😉

plush swift
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dont be as preachy as me

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I'm only this way because of years of hobbiests literally assaulting me physically for not doing it their way

cursive vector
left egret
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Today marks the day where i start drilling my bolter barrels 😐

dark violet
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i dont have a drill small enough

left egret
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I do... I bought extra drill bits for my army painter drill

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This is madness, but I have long left the path of sanity for that of chaos

edgy jackal
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Kill team wip

edgy jackal
atomic rose
limber widget
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I can probably offered it

naive umbra
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I know it's not a 40k mini, but it's the first thing I've properly finished painting since January 2020, and I'm very happy. It's a Dwarf from the Talisman board game.

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Next project will be getting one of my Fire Warrior Strike Teams done

dark violet
naive umbra
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He's just an old fashioned Votann

cursive vector
# edgy jackal custom prints?

Yeah. Base model is Reptillian Overlords Spacenam, those have been mixed with Golden Dragon Games’ Concordian Veterans, with the rifles/melee weapons added/kitbashed from a myriad sources from Cults

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Tiny bit of sculpting I’ve added in the form of some of the straps on the torso

dark violet
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@plush swift this you?

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lol

plush swift
rare hornet
plush swift
grizzled jolt
copper siren
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My LGS received the items from my order, EXCEPT the boxset with the minis

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i have to wait until they get the next shipment in 2 weeks

cursive vector
deft fable
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I haven't been on darktide for two months

atomic rose
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I have not played a game in a long time as well. Game kinda sucks, ngl.

warm topaz
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Dripping blood attempt. Not bad tbh

lilac moth
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Super glue does wonders for dripping blood

dark violet
simple thorn
dark violet
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i should really continue working on mine

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a half assembled sister is just lying infront of me

weary nexus
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Started a new project again, Which makes me cry for all the other unfinished projects I have.

mild aspen
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I'm curious, what do you guys think would be a better paint job for a Veteran killteam, Inquisitor Grendyl's operatives or the Native Atoman Prime regiment?

dark violet
mild aspen
edgy jackal
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Unless you mean Grendyl's other, non-convict operatives (the ones we steal special issue ammo for), like the NPC ones on the ship, then yeah, those fit too.

mild aspen
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After all, if they can do what Grendyl's Auric-class troops can do, they gotta be worth their salt.

swift shell
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Yo should i cop the mini??

mild aspen
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Yes.

simple thorn
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Nothing a little paint stripper can't fix

mild aspen
swift shell
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i will field him

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he is the new necron king or whatever

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idk necron stuff

simple thorn
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Necrons have a king, weirdly enough

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Despite being Egyptian

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Ruled by Phaerons, but the head honcho is Szarek, the Silent King

swift shell
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Yo

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move over shrek, lead man is the new king

simple thorn
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Will be honest though, I like the look of the head
Reminds me of Umbra's from XCOM 2

deft fable
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Here we go again

muted badge
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i had an accursed idea for a Slaaneshi Chaos Armiger but I need some custom bits to make it real

brisk siren
simple thorn
muted badge
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If you guys know anyone who makes custom bits like that, lemme know.

edgy jackal
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As in, made to order bits? That's harder to find than 3rd party bits or stls

atomic rose
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You can probably find a guy on fiver to make them for you. It likely won't be that expensive either. If you are happy with the delivered product, give them a good tip, since people undervalue themselves tremendously over there.

plush swift
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if they match the cost of an american for instance, they would get lots less visibility on a website where being cheap means being best

hazy meadow
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do you have to wet sable hair brushes every few strokes or something?

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I can't get it to just stay in shape between strokes it always spreads within a few and makes it impossible to paint small areas

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I never get paint into the ferrule, and clean it properly every time i use it. Only used it twice

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edgy jackal
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How do you avoid thin paints (speed paint, contrast, shade, inks, etc) travelling into the ferrule via capillary action?

sweet sinew
opal patio
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wait

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does the door not go the other way around?

rare hornet
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Little teaser of the forge lord

copper siren
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YKg-Qc9fw4
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it is however, my favorite SM model out right now

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and I lack like 5 paints to do him justice

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bone being the primary one and a bit of flesh paints

obsidian moat
muted badge
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so i updated my chaos knight idea to a Tyrant

muted badge
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i designed the Pilots for my Imperial Knights in Hero Forge

devout lake
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I tired doing bullet holes. How does it look?

robust loom
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Did my very first mini ever. Terrified to try and paint it

plush swift
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Whoof you picked a doozy. Just relax and let the paint flow it'll look fine i bet

sinful elm
light echo
naive umbra
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That Psychomancer is looking real nice

sweet sinew
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Decided to name it after my demonic cat

sweet sinew
obsidian moat
naive umbra
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Also helps keep your marines reflexes sharp as they need to take a quick hop over the end to avoid tripping when disembarking.

mint dove
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How's he looking

azure fulcrum
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Armless

mint dove
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I like how rhe paint turned out but the tocket launcher attaches in such a strange way its a little lopsided and I hate that :/

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@plush swift better eyes this go around?

azure fulcrum
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its a firstborn marine

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they wont connect properly unless you do a bit of modification

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its just how the sculpts are

devout lake
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Does anyone know what accursed weapons are for chaos terminators? What do they look like?

bold copper
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basically any option in the kit that isn't the power fists or the chainfist is an accursed weapon

atomic rose
mint dove
azure fulcrum
plush swift
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My Homebrews Chapter Master

lean snow
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Wut them hands do?

plush swift
lean snow
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Nice

prime scarab
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Hmmm I wonder if I should buy a Slaves to Darkness box

turbid brook
azure fulcrum
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Damn I should have kept mine and sold it to you

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Totally with the daemon prince still attached and not at all slightly lighter than it should be

tiny jay
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Anyone familiar with the poxwalker sprue?

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Curious if there is an option to build a full set without the coat body.

cedar delta
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Just finished my Pteraxii unit

lavish crescent
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Its 1,200 points but my question is who would paint that many

dark violet
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Just dip them in green and call it done

azure fulcrum
#

180 models is a small army for orks

lofty basalt
dark violet
edgy jackal
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No? 180 models is probably the upper end of what you can expect to field if playing in lfgs from what I remember.

dark violet
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I thought 180 is just a single squad of boiz

azure fulcrum
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considering your average ork player probably takes around 60 gretchin in a single go

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although maybe im thinking from years back in 8th edition

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where seeing squads of 30 boys rushing stuff with choppas and sluggaz was a thing

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i think 9th it became more vehicle meta

lavish crescent
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A standard game is like 2k points

lavish crescent
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Good luck taking an objectives

edgy jackal
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That sounds ridiculous and tedious to play against.

lavish crescent
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You can get conscripts which are 20x per group instead of 10

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They cost 100pts per 20

rare hornet
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Let alone against

dark violet
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Hell yeah

rare hornet
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Make the enemy force quit and claim victory

dark violet
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And the time it takes to place them

dark violet
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Nono

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One big box

rare hornet
#

Just a shipping container of just conscripts

dark violet
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All ready to die for the emperor

lavish crescent
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So 2k points would be:

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400 models...

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Fucking 400 models!

dark violet
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Gotta paint them all individually

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Each one with unique design

rare hornet
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With details

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And name every single one

dark violet
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And backstories

rare hornet
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Precisely

dark violet
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This one's Karl. He lost everything to the nids

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Now he's here for you

rare hornet
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Jeffery over there killed a chaos marine

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With his bare hands

dark violet
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Oh and that one....

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Steve...

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Even mortarion can't stand his smell

rare hornet
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Then there’s Garry

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We don’t talk about Garry

dark violet
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Oh and bob

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He's nice

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Oh nameplates

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For all of them

atomic rose
lavish crescent
limber widget
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He is basically too angry to even die

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Local daemon primarch is too. Angry to die

lavish crescent
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How tf can a guardsman kill a custode?

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@rare hornet @dark violet I worry about you both... mechconcern

rare hornet
azure fulcrum
rare hornet
limber widget
lavish crescent
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I HAVE DONE IT!

rare hornet
#

You made 400 conscripts also?

lavish crescent
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CLOSE!

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It took me so long but it has been done!

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An army that can kill angron with memes and bodies!

limber widget
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Damn

lavish crescent
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1,696 points

rare hornet
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Needs more conscripts

limber widget
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Jesus

lavish crescent
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Its game legal roo!

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Too

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You can bring that to an official game!

limber widget
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Angron you can't kill. Me
Space marine I know but he can
1.966 points worth of guardmen

lavish crescent
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With arty support

limber widget
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Damn

lavish crescent
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And ALOT of commisars

limber widget
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Holy moly

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Thats almost a content size guardmen amry

rare hornet
lavish crescent
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3 commissars, 2 psykers and one master of ordnance

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12x squads of conscripts

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240 conscripts

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3 squads of riders!

tiny jay
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Crush them under the weight of your dead.

limber widget
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The pysker while fighting angron I CANOT HOLDING IT
The comissar shame starts loading his. Bolt pistol

lavish crescent
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And artillery

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THIS IS SO CURSED AND I LOVE IT!

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I want to play this on TTS vs an actual army rn

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rare hornet
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the sound of 240 bayonets being fixed simultaneously

lavish crescent
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This is actually game legal too!

rare hornet
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Imagine if the old ‘send in the next wave’ stratagem still existed

limber widget
lavish crescent
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Mf if I deploy that many models, im gonna be a while

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That army in total is 261 models!

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Brother I think I'm taking up half the board with this army!

dark violet
#

Nearly lore accurate guardsmen regiment

sand tulip
naive umbra
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I was afraid of this step, but burst cannons actually aren't too bad to drill

azure fulcrum
#

if GW doesnt release an Ork vs World Eaters box set called Bale Eye's Vengeance its gonna be one hell of a missed opportunity

plush swift
#

Rate my mess

lean snow
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Im looking for this helmet. I want to do Grimaldus and his gang from the helsreach novel. Any ideas what sets would be good for a kitbash?

rare hornet
plush swift
lean snow
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Mayhaps

plush swift
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But ill take it as a compliment

rare hornet
lean snow
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I think it could use some touch ups and maybe a quick highlight

plush swift
lean snow
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The important question tho

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How do you feel about it

plush swift
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Just need some practice and I have some poxwalkers for that

left egret
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... because am i the only one that sees the lenses as a big vintage camera?

naive umbra
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The Imperium would have digital cameras by now, but tech innovation is heresy

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I love the idea of Marines developing grainy images in their dark room after a scouting mission

lavish crescent
lavish crescent
left egret
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please tell me i am wrong.

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i beg of you

rare hornet
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You are wrong

left egret
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Unconvinced but ill take it
Helmet is no longer camera

rare hornet
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Only doing what you asked

atomic rose
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Please send me half a milion dollars

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I beg of you.

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(Gotta try.)

rare hornet
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A’ight

atomic rose
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👀

left egret
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lalala can't hear you over the singing of the nails and the Warsmith said I was wrong 😛

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I am bored and have no shame

naive umbra
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Finished drilling all my barrels. I'll be damned if the Fire Warriors get a drilling though. My smallest bit is too big for their guns, plus I don't think it'll be worth it

atomic rose
left egret
azure fulcrum
#

granted you only get one but still

naive umbra
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I'm actually most proud of the cyclic ion blaster. I drilled all the way through the 2 side barrels so that it looks like it can fire properly if one of them were to rotate into place

left egret
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... but yeah I got enough havocs to run full squads of reapers 😶

azure fulcrum
naive umbra
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Can equip up to 4 of each gun, but the sprues give you 1, so everyone with a Commander is "missing" 3 of each gun.

left egret
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Quantity has a quality all of its own

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Death by a 1000 cuts

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Something will always get through

azure fulcrum
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interesting

left egret
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But has short range ao you NEED to support them. Iron Warriors have a good strat that makes cultists into a screen for you so it's a must have if you do a brrrt patrol

coarse comet
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Guys before giving a White or colored primer you have to give the black primer anyway for cover and adhesion?

left egret
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So essentially they are great in close quarters... but lacking over distances

naive umbra
naive umbra
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Ah right, so anything in bolter range is kinda like "you will get shot back"

left egret
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Like melta/flamers are 12" and pistols are at 6"

naive umbra
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Still gearing up to play my first match, I'm sure a lot of things I thought would work in my head will prove false haha

left egret
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Yes and no

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Some of the things you think to be impossible turn out to be viable

copper siren
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my LGS hosts 500-750 point games, hoping to play in one of those this year

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with the elite starter kit and a the DA combat patrol, painting them ultrasmurfs

naive umbra
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One of the things I'm hoping works ok is having 3 lines of fire warriors, with the breachers up front firing at 14"/8", then my pulse carbine strike team at 24" and my pulse rifle at 36". And had this idea that the front line would fall back while the other 2 lines cover it, because it just seems thematically cool if you can pull that off

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Very "tacticool"

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But the more battle reports I watch, I feel like I'd need them on objectives so harder to set up a proper firing line like an open battle would

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Unless my friend is ok just doing a few matches of open play where the goal is to just table each other haha

warm topaz
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My lighting is bright AF but 1st time using Baal and a white base coat. Think it looks pretty good

naive umbra
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Nice and bright

rare hornet
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Ooo very bright

warm topaz
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yup lol

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think its cus of my lighting, it doesn't look that bright irl compared to whats posted

naive umbra
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Seems to be the contrast equivalent of Evil Sunz Scarlet, which I love the look of when you put it over a base coat of Khorne Red

warm topaz
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My old model from like 6th ed is how I've painted for years but thought I'd try summin new. That old one is mephiston red dry brushed onto black undercoat

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Very few highlights of evil sunz

rare hornet
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Oooo

warm topaz
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that model is like 13/14 years old lol

left egret
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Essentially I love the paint

rigid portal
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Alternatively you can get PCB drill bits in ultra fine width.

trail crag
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This set broke me

edgy jackal
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I can image, certain models look small, but have quite a large surface area

cursive gyro
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That's amazing!

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Thank you so much, that mask made with a shoulder pad is something I'm gonna steal

trail crag
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haha youre welcome and thanks

dark violet
trail crag
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speed is life

hazy meadow
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How do you dry brush without getting the color onto the flat areas? I angle it but bristles still hit. Example Is the green right under the bronze of shoulder

verbal swan
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first time with plasma gun so yeah, it kinda sucks

hazy meadow
brisk vapor
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try having even less paint on your brush

hazy meadow
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Ah yes a beautifully shaded desk

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I didn’t need that entire bottle of agrax

rare hornet
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F

median thistle
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I did that once

atomic rose
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It's either too much paint or you are not doing it lightly enough and the bristles go into the recesses.

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But armor panels in general are not great area to use drybrushing on. Flat areas catch the bristles as well and you end up with paint on them. It's better reserved for areas with lot of texture, like fur or chainmail.

hazy meadow
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Gotcha, was just following ol duncan but I'll probably just edge highlight those

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I also wasn't being super light so that could be it as well

plush swift
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just the backpack left

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the white was terrible

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😔

median thistle
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thats okay, white is difficult, youll get the hang of it

plush swift
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Idk how to explain it

median thistle
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does it seem much thicker than every other paint you own?

plush swift
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it does

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also it seems chunky

median thistle
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which white is it specifically

plush swift
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Model color 70.951 White

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Should have waited to get an off white but I wanted to try out to paint

median thistle
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get a grey colour first

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like a light grey

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then try a white over that

atomic rose
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"Corpse_starch is typing..."

plush swift
median thistle
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thats fine, more paints never hurt anyone lol

plush swift
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Overall it was better than expected

median thistle
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means an excuse to order more than one

plush swift
atomic rose
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Hobby whites and yellows are generaly terrible. I have no personal experience, but profesional grade acrylics are supposed to be much better and about the same cost as hobby paints. Golden titanium white fluid acrylic is supposed to be really good so try looking for that. Just don't airbrush it or eat it since...titanium, you know.

median thistle
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oranges hate me, and vallejo greens hate me, blues like me at least

plush swift
median thistle
atomic rose
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Well, as certain someone is innevitably gonna inform you, hobby paints are overpriced bottle diarrhea of a paint. You can get way higher quality acrylins in an art store for the same price or even cheaper. They are just not conveniently mentioned on the box of the mini.

median thistle
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They are convenient for lazy people like me

atomic rose
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That they are, and they are extremely overpriced because of it.

rare hornet
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I have an acquired taste, GW paints just hit the spot

median thistle
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stop eating them then

opal patio
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EAT MORE

spring dawn
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im just too busy drinking superglue

atomic rose
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I am keeping back a vintage can of asbestos for special purposes.

spring dawn
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the taste of Pap Nurgles special brew... nothing beats it

dark violet
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have you ever tried auric armor?

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hits the spot

pale edge
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I'm still on elmer's glue, thankfully it's provided it all the basing starter kits

twilit cliff
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inquisitorial agent/bounty hunter

jaunty trail
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Question to the Black Templars enjoyers here: Is there any solid Info if (Primaris) Neophytes may wear a helmet? I don't like their Heads that are in the battle patrol box that much... Much thanks in advance to the coming answers!

rare hornet
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Technically no, as they carry the helmets of their assigned initiate

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they are essentially their servant

jaunty trail
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But what is with the marked helmet out of the upgrade kit? Is this just an "old" MKIII helmet? Looks for me not like an usual astartes/Primaris helmet...

rare hornet
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That is the relic crusader helm

limber widget
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nice looking dark templars

jaunty trail
# rare hornet That is the relic crusader helm

Kk... then i will have to ask some things in my local warhammer store 🤣 and after that i will decide what to do ^^ but still have some intercessors to go as also to repaint my land raider crusader... so there is some time left

rare hornet
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i'm making a terminator chaplain as my warlord

jaunty trail
rare hornet
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i have Tarentus

jaunty trail
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This is what i made out of it

rare hornet
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Oh that collectors one

median thistle
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ah yes that model is on my list of things to do for my dank angles

jaunty trail
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Yup. Was shocked as my friend said "this is one i give to you" cuz' i know it's a bit older....

pale edge
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Very cool

jaunty trail
pale edge
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Reminds me a lot of Space Hulk lmao

left egret
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That brings me to the question. Why no termie dark apostle?

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We already got beefy chaplains

jaunty trail
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This is my current army xD

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Finished 3 more initiates 3 days ago and now working on 5x Intercessors ^^

jaunty trail
plush swift
left egret
jaunty trail
left egret
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(The eldar are crying from neglect)

left egret
jaunty trail
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I know... and everytime i try to give something back, they heck out new insane things.... it's just breathtaking incredible

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But i know them now for long and i'm pretty sure that i would go through hell to help them if needed ^^

left egret
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Anyway I should go back to planning my semi skaven semi dragon age inspired pathfinder campaign (but the ratfolk ain't evil)

jaunty trail
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You will find a way for it. I am currently thinking about some background lore for my crusade cuz my friends and i will have soon a narrative crusade and i like the idea of having some background lore as also to write a kind of chronicle of the narrative crusade we will play...

left egret
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Ooh narrative is great fun

jaunty trail
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Ye.. pretty excited cuz it will be first time i play ever... in my youth i only built them because i liked the minis xD

left egret
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Yeah narrative was my first as well

dark violet
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i summon thee corpse starch

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i have this gold color from deka and its a matt color and compared to the other 2 i have from it it just sucks ass its all liquidy whgile the others are mostly solid ive been shaking it for minutes

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it aint turning into a gold color it looks mostly yellow

left egret
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Played world eaters and named them the bloodfathers chosen. Skinned them as Space wolves turned World Eaters

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But the space dogs bore me now so next time I do WE in narrative the will be pure eaters of worlds

lilac moth
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I am an idiot... Decided to make my smurfmarine apothecary like 45% white...

Didnt think what hell getting so much smooth white surface is gonna be... staregryn

dark violet
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New sister done

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i have also decided on a name for the order of my sisters

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the order of the golden rose :3

warm topaz
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Done... I think

dark violet
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i like it

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how did you do the purity seal paper

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i still have to make mine look aged like someone spilled coffee over it

warm topaz
dark violet
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i have the bone one

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but no skeleton horde

warm topaz
dark violet
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im gonna try some stuff

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or order skeleton horde soon

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i like your red man he cool

jaunty edge
bold copper
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Nice