#40k-minis-and-armies
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I hate painting heads now
Everyone will wear a helmet
Helmets protect the head
i recently satrted to love painting heads actually XD
i gotta do my first head painting today
I actually don't mind it, I just wish I had sticky tack to slap the head on a stick
It's hard painting heads when I'm pinching the bottom
Pinvice, paperclip, superglue
cork, toothpick, handrill
and just 1 drop of tamiya into the drillhole so its sticky enough to hold, but easy enough to pull it off again
and of course
Love the visor shine
yeah happy with it, took some tinkering
is the first one of those tac goggles i did
also i dont have any golden demon amibitions, i just want to have an army to play with but that looks okayish
xD
Thanks
What's the specifics on technical paint btw
Technical Citadel paints?
They do other things besides just covering. For example Blood for the Blood good has some additive that makes it "gooey" like. Astrogranite has some Grit partticles in it so it drys looking rocky. Or is supposed to
Ah so for example nurgles rot is more goopy maybe?
yes
Thank you
best not to use ur good brushes if you use technicals, at least if you dont know their exact consistency yet.
cause if they are grittty, you dont want that in between your bristles
l
thats blood for the blood good, the additives it has makes it always look kinda wet still basically
Looks really good
i shall let the wifey who painted it know 🙂
Sororitas tank I take it
yeah, sororitas rhino
I see rose and French flower whose name I never remember
fleu de lil
That one
*fleur
Fleur de lys
Also known as royal lily
yep
Sororitas flower
Sorc of birb in cat armor almost done. Tatical move-crate placed in replacement for tactial Smited ultramarine corpse.
That's wicked!
Cataphractii armour, immediate like
congratulations, enjoy the shortened life expectancy
I’ve drunk so much leadbeltcher I think I’m in the negatives for life expectancy
I am up for some dirty down rust martinis
My painting area is well ventilated and I wear gloves whenever I paint so yeah I'm gonna live to 150
something wrong with them?
Wait a second that isn't even a thing
The only hazards I can find anywhere are "flammable" and "don't get it in your eyes" along with the average message about not huffing it.
this is a very good combat patrol
Much excitement
yay 4 more colors arrived in mail now i got white and skin color to continue working
Dirty Downs contains xylene, Even with a well ventilated area you are going to be inhaling it. Xylene is known to cause lung scarring and numerous health issues.
Not only that but it is a very heavy carcinogen, And you need an actual chemical respirator when using it, Even their MSDS says this.
Don't just look on the website look at their MSDS.
Oh yeah also xylene can cause blindness from the fumes in some cases, so where goggles just in case.
legal warning this is a joke, do not drink your paint water as it contains heavy metals and polymer products that are known to cause cancer in California
Paint water? Thats like putting ice in beer, you have a perfectly fine paint pot. Citadel makes them in shot glass sizes aswell!
i love that "known to cause cancer in california" drink it anywhere else and it wont cause cancer (note also a joke as some people take stuff a bit too seriously)
Prop 65 is a legal disclaimer that I don't fully agree with but I love the fact that toast is also prop 65
technically everything ever can cause cancer
buy some of them "known to cause cancer in california" and just slap it on everything you own
I have a bunch of those stickers actually
Did you know this space marine over here... is known to cause cancer in the state of california?
I should put that on all my knights
i wonder if california still exists on terra
I am starting my build journey tomorrow, wish me luck
What are you on? Xylene is not known to cause lung scarring, it is linked to stuff like hearing loss if inhaled in industrial amounts and it makes you high if inhaled in large amounts you need something like 200mg/kg to have any serious effects. Unless I am >1kg and the entire bottle is the stuff I am safe unless I use it as eye drops or a drink
It actually does have links to it. And as someone who works around it a lot, even small amounts are bad. Not deadly
It can cause your lungs to inflame and the membranes to rupture
which can cause scarring
you need way less to cause effects on you than 200mg/kg, the moment you start getting a headache or dizziness, its a sign to stop what you're doing and move to the outdoors
Can you corroborate this is are you basing this off of "trust me bro" principal because literally nowhere did I find anything about scaring from any amount other than what can be found in an industrial area
Literally on its hazard labeling
What dynasty
And is that a skorpehk lord?
custom paint scheme and yes
I've been looking for one outside of that one $150 pack, but I no longer trust ebay
if theres a local tabletop discord for you check that
i sniped mine off someone from the lgs i go to to buy shit
Necrons??
I'll see if there is one
heres a front view of senor skorpekh for you
minus his basing
ah
yeah
was painting up 1k pts i had lying arohnd over the past few daus
looks like a whole lot of no to play against for me XD
lmao why
i actually havent played a game of 40k yet
i just like painting
I play Templars and am very melee focused. necrons have deadly guns and the void dragon.
im torn between making them more melee focused or saying fuck it we ball and spamming doomstalkers
the model is so cool
it do be looking crisp
i also have blood angels so my bias towards melee is there for a reason
Getting a blood ravens army printed, primaris or first born you think?
My buddy who paints and sells is doing me a small army gratis 😭
I would recommend whatever you think is cooler. Rules come and go, cool minis are far more long lasting. Primaris are probably more future-proof though.
man mode and make it 2k point army with 1000-1500 points being only nekron warriors!
the silver tide rises
On your turn you can just declare "i shoot you" while yeeting a 50kg bag of dice on the table!
Now i want to make chaos space marine army consisting mostly of cultists 😄 AbbyDaddy + metric heresyton of melee and ranged cultist squads
ork bucket of dice moment
first born are being phased out
Big shame
BT are mostly Primaris at this point 😦
I think grey knights are the only first borns left, but they might be primaris now for some reason
Are they as good on tabletop as they look on B-Scribe?
Firstborn probably won't be gone from codexes until 11th or 12th edition if they get phased out at all, so you'll still be able to use them for a few years
But firstborn are still a thing in lore too
not really, they cost too much, they also dont get access to res orbs, they are just a buffer for elites so you lose out on a lot over the other options, its effectively a melee unit that has to sit back with a bunch of long ranged units or get killed in melee since its a bit weak in combat in the current meta
They're still hanging out but they are slowly being replaced by the bigger better primaris
I should test it in a tts game later, I bet it'd be good with that gauntlet relic that does a mortal on a 6
you'd need to bring skorpekh destroyers which are already very meh for the necron elite slot
there is just better options like flayed ones
Yeah if I ever got the Lord I'd probably just make a destroyer themed army
I like their lore and as a custodes and knights player I'm accustomed to elite armies
destroyer themed armies are a bit weak at the moment because of the amount of things with blast
the recent CP change helped a bit but not enough
Wouldn't that be an advantage because of their low unit numbers?
its 3-6 and you'd want to bring 6
but you have to lower it to 4
which means you need more battalions to fill an army
Plus the only units that get its bonus are the Hexmark Destroyer, Skorpekh Destroyers, Ophydian Destroyers, Lokhust Destroyers, Lokhust Heavy Destroyers
lokhust arent bad but they are long ranged, making other HQs better for buffing
they did update them
but that might have only been the heavies
The heavies would still get use, I like them a ton but the old lokhusts ain't it
Naw TSK makes the army function currently unfortunately
yeah the old ones suck
the oph destroyers are also meh
they are just worse wraiths
It would be cool if the destroyer cult was a sub faction instead of a couple units, but they look cool so I'm going for it (eventually)
Probably a bad idea talking about getting more models with my backlog of like 8 things
The three I am most proud of from my 4 painted ones. Still missing one or two colors to Complete them.but nearly done with what I can say I am happy with for my first time
2nd set of boys are almost done
Not bad, especially since gold is such a finicky color to paint, it's the reason I don't play custodes
Nice Im. Gonna probably to my local gw store this weekend
Speaking of I might get some Deathwatch marines next
Gronk awakens
Do GW no longer sell the Reiver set with full skull helmets? Ive looked on their online shop and Forgeworld and cant find any
Ahh im stupid. I couldnt tell from the box art or images that there are some full helmets in the sprues
I mistakingly thought they all had just the facemask
Afaik you get 10 bare heads and 10 helmeted ones
Oh okay thats handy to know thank you kindly
you can see the sprues themselves on most items GW sells
Im aware but when the option to zoom is clicked it doesnt zoom on specific areas you wanna look at it just enlarges the pic itself and its not often clear
I honestly like to use bitzbarn to look at the sprues cause they (usually) have higher quality images of the individual pieces
You used to be able to zoom in and actually inspect details but for some reason they changed that years ago
you can get pretty close if you open the image in a separate tab
no idea never played a game but auspex tactics says theyre the fightiest generic necron character so take that as you will
i think that i gonna buy a other greater daemon or an titan
Your poor wallet
i did bought some expensive like 2 anime figures
and some games
SDL is an HQ
Well I have between $400-700 in unpainted models
damn
I don't even want to think about my unopened paint collection
my ever expensive model was a greater daemon of slaanish that costed 110 euros
I'm sitting on 50k in unpainted models and lets not get into my paint collection
and i bought small set of chaos marines and tau battle suit
considering I have a 10ml jar of pigment thats worth $3500 and thats not even my most expensive pigment
and some new paint
I have 6 of the big 170 usd models, only half of which are painted
most of my paint was dryed up
life of an artist, unpaid and over charged
than i needed to buy new paint
you can fix a lot of tried up paint honestly, its not that hard
they were exteme dryed up
yes
hard like stone
I know
I still have to open the sylvaneth Christmas box
i boughht some new ones that costed me around 30 to 40 euros
Pile of shame is called that for a reason. You are supposed to be ashamed of it. 😅
You can fix dried acrylic paints fairly easily its just requiring a few tools and some medium
And I should probably start building my first commission (Bosnian themed imperial knight)
pile of opportunities mind you
pile of I should have gotten a different hobby like knitting
i still have a lizzardmen stater set box that barly even touched since 2019
Yeah I've just had a primed wraithknight on my shelf for almost 3 years
My first marine has been somewhat painted in a meme scheme
and i have an small eldar set i havent also touched since mid summer of 2019
because why the hell not i now have a bad dragon marine
Now freehand that insignia.
my first ever model was a gondor archer from my first time at my local gw back in 2015
WIP grenadier squad
nice
this is 100% a Slaanesh legion
what if i told you he was a loyalist
I find this disturbing
hes ready to fuck shit up. in more ways than one
He's ready to serve the Emperor
very thoroughly
Bruh
pfffffffff
gooooood
Going to go give Nurgle some Sloppy
Not if i do it first
nurgle the unclean or nurgle the clean one?
Went a bit softer on the wash this time, not just gotta highlight and base
nice
The great clean one
ill lick him clean
I gotta stop
thats always the correct one
purge the furry
i think i know the face on the psyker lol
Its not my place to say but Id take 15 minutes to just touch up that pauldron and below the eyes if it were me
would yall recommend doing a burnt effect on the tip of flamers?
I wouldnt go for like a flame glow because Im not that talented yet but maybe a black drybrush to look like soot would be cool
I would recommend setting the god emperors corps on fire
Oh god
I do PB15:6, PV23, PO48+PY150 with a PB15:1 base all heavily thinned down with high flow medium
Pigment names scare me
When you ask for a little help in the painting channel and Corpse starts spitting geological coordinates at you
Just finished painting my first mini just need to do the base plate
its easier to say pigment names than what the fuck ever the chemical company is calling it today

I touched em up a bit but the paundron is kidna messed up because I was a little overzealous with the primer and I hadn't noticed until it was too late lol
the pigments don't really help when the hobby paint companies don't list their pigments on their pots
Happens to the best of us. You think you're doin a good coat and then she starts to pool
She's a fickle beast
Talk in hex codes
GW lists whats in their paint but its some kind of fucking secret code or something
I can understand those better
Im 100% certain its not standard pigment codes
#ffffff is my favorite color
I think my 3rd one turned out better so far
Not actually
where? actually curious
considering you need to use transparent stuff for the effects a lot, most use washes and its easy enough to just look them up and go "oh that looks like nurgle crotch rot blue"
back of the pots
008080 is my favorite if im remembering the code correctly
thats not pigment, thats a biocide
Tfw you paint your dark angels dark green but you are red green colourblind and can barely see the green on the black primer

yeah no colour codes on any of these pots
only variance between the pots are names and barcodes
(some do)
gotta lick that brush to get a good tip
gotta
ASTM-D 4236 is a product standards thing, CMIT:MIT / Cas No. 55965-84-9 is Methylchloroisothiazolinone, which is a biocide thats heavily regulated in the UK
With grace
you should do a color blind pallet and a custom chapter thats a successor to dark angels.
Agreed
If a reptile race ever gets added to 40k im buying that shit so fast
I love geckos
I own 2
too bad they're extinct
:((
Nope just gonna be incredibly stubborn
I don’t want the AoS ones because im not gonna copy my teacher
I'll wear you down one day
kroot
I mean they are avian so they are a type of dinosaur
I guess thats close enough
Damn
they have some neat models
Oh god i need to get a job
then get one
yeah they also just got a updated basic troop set
i need to find a job too
same
^
Ima apply at my local game store
the company I'm working for is closing in 6 months
Right now
Enjoy the wait time
Every neckbeard wants to own or run their own store
Your average hobby store probably has more job apps in reserve than your mcdonalds
wow the Krootox on the GW store looks awful
The only neck beard at my local gameshop only goes on fridays for the mtg drafts
So im probably good
Discounts tho
not working for minimum wage, I'm too old and pissy
And from what I’ve heard my game store is one of the nicest in the state
Yeah thats fair
I still have a bit before im 30 so money isn’t important yet
You work for below minimum wage mf
exactly, thats not minimum wage
Lol
Not at all 40k, but first mini painted. Also really quite uh...blocky I know. Fine motor skills aren't a big one for me
I like it
question
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/13/how-to-paint-saint-celestine/ why is this broken where the instructions :(
It seems that the actual instructions are the YT video
In this painting tutorial Duncan shows you how to paint the amazing Saint Celestine miniature. He covers everything from painting her gold armour to painting her awe-inspiring wings. Also, all the techniques covered in this tutorial will allow you to easily paint her 2 bodyguards - Genevieve and Eleanor.
thank you
No problem
Just skipped through that video, GW doesn't make glaze paints anymore
I ated them all
You'll have to find an alternative for the blue glow on the sword and eyes (maybe an ink or a thinner contrast like aethermtic blue)
i think im gonna skip the blue glow for now
i am making a list of the paints i dont ahve yet for her and order them together with her
guessing he sprayed her with retributor gold
they dont make glazes anymore because they can sell over priced bottles of medium
for the same price of a pot of medium they sell, you can get an 8oz bottle of a vastly higher quality one
okay i definetly wont need to do the red shading and highlighting
not as visible and major
they've sold mediums longer than they did glazes, no?
people just didn't buy the glazes when you could just get the same results with a good mix of water
my grey knights steel looks better in my opinion than his silver
So I'm looking at the back of my friends cadian squad box and I noticed the colors, what does it mean when It says "layer"?
paint type
there are base, layer, shade and contrast paints
base paints are the most opaque and layer paints let more of the colour beneath through
Ahh okay so when I paint blood angels I'm gonna paint with actual citadel paints, is there any reference I can use for base/layer/contrast paints to use for em?
their youtube page is one resource for that
Download the Citadel Colour phone app
ofcourse they have an app
If I'm gonna paint an entire army of the same chapter of space marines it would probably be in my beat interst to buy one of their spray cans yes?
I see they make a spray mephiston red
It will definitely speed up the process.
it'll speed up the process
are there no 200ml spray bottles only 400?
Cool I'll just do that. Any of you know what I should buy if I wanna play blood angels?
Besides the codex that is
although I found the endless recess shading a pain with coloured sprays so I went back to black basing after like a hundred ultramarines
Whatever is in the codex and you think looks cool
retributor spray seems very expensive for me atm and dunno if i need 400ml
about the codex you'll probably want the base space marine codex plus the blood angels supplement
and the 9th edition is probably close to it's end so if you're not planning on getting some games in like within a year you might want to wait till the new releases on those
What you painting gold anyway?
Supplement it with some primaris marines from the recruit edition
You really don't need a spray for a single model.
You may be better off with the paint pot?
yeah can try that aswell i mean even the 12ml is alot since you dont use much
Yeah it’s mostly trim
I remember the glazes, i only know of the mediums as of more recently. But I also remember the old inks too.
inks are older yeah, but I'm pretty sure lahmian medium has been around as long as glazes
I think they released that around the same time as glazes maybe? i just dont remember ever seeing it in stores though
probably
I dont remember anyone ever mentioning it until a few years ago too
then again it was only a few years ago when youtube started to get used for paint tutorials
seems both were introduced in 2012
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I've waited months to be able to buy more of this medium, and now it's here. I'm happy to report that it is the same as the medium that they had included with the paintbrush gift set released around Christmas.
or 2011
I'm old enough to think 2005 was only a few years ago
Got a fairly big bottle of matte medium from my art store and ordered a few paints from Vallejo. anyone got a good non-citadel alternative nurgle's rot or typhus corrosion?
Yes, get gloss medium and baking soda
nurgles rot is just ultramarine blue and yellow mixed in gloss medium
which yellow? probably hansa or ochre
i'd have to find the bottle I have
Gotcha.
corrosion is just baking soda in brown paint
Nice
I was gonna use something like nurgle's rot for the lenses of the Moebian's masks.
Also maybe some dripping fuel from the flamer.
also remember, student grade paints are the same as hobby paints, but they generally arent pre mixed colors
so if you want to save a few bucks, mixing colors will go a long way
there are also color mixing charts out there
Also managed to isolate the various arms with Hellguns from the Stationforge Traitor guard set in blender. So I think I can cut away the leads and maybe shorten them slightly to make regular Kantrael style lasguns for the blooded models instead of the Kreig lasguns they come with.
I honestly wish I could find a pack thats just a bunch of lasguns.
There is quite a few
Yeah, just got to talk to a friend who knows more about printing than I do. I can use blender but I've not got a printer/don't know how to support etc.
Either that or I could honestly just cut off the cables and use these as regular lasguns and make the ones I want to be hellguns longer.
Sorry for the late reply but thats no biggie, not like im actually gonna play 9th edition i have some standards haha
Using them for display/OPR games primarily
3d printed so going into a GW with the army would get the inquisition on my ass. Currently for my GF fireteam set (skirmish scale game) im gonna have a set of primaris, and then once i get more time ill build out a more full army of firstborn i think. Let the primaris be the elite guard mostly
This dude came out so meh lol
I’ve done better, the yellow never really came out right so I just said whatever
chalk+yellow always makes yellow worse to use
My first ever mini (taking a sec to send)
Gonna finish up some edge highlights on the gun, his pistol holster, and the bootknife and then I think he's done. Will prob touch up on the visor too
How did I do?
For a first mini
This is actually amazing.
I'm genuinely impressed, many first minis are blobs of paint. With this all the details are painted in and you can even see some crisp edge highlighting.
The knife pommel on his left leg looks really quite good, especially with how close it is to the leg itself
Same with the ammunition on his arm
It's really good
Bought these for my blood angels. Is there anything special about using these?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621405055374852106/1063587378981249024/20230113_163451.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621405055374852106/1063587379346161765/20230113_163446.jpg
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doomstalker
You can just buy generic spray paint it will be the same quality and cheaper
@dusty nimbus @wanton basin thanks so much guys!! I really did my research and i was nervous at first, but once I got a good flow going I was really absorbed into it
Poor reivers that will never see any play on the table.
They look great though
Thats a clean white for all that black.
How many layers of white did it take to get it that clean
So the left is a contrast paint. Its kind of like a wash. You wanna do a dark prime and then a highlight with grey before using that.
You can highlight the grey with a rattlecan, drybrush, or airbrush
Id honestly just looknat contrast tutorials. I just started using them to speed up my army building
One of you use professional grade white. Not joking I will show you
@mystic shard Thanks, all that's missing is something to make them good.
I could tell you buy you probably don't want to go buy a lot of new materials
One of them is a bit pricey
Two. I didn't thin the white as much
The hardest part was not fucking up the goggles, which I ended up doing anyways lol
I mean, i can suggest you turning this one into the Moebian 6th Scab gunner kitbash, the rifle fits it already. Same with the other gear.
Friendly reminder that everyone's models are TRASH because they do not contain enough pink paint, leather BDSM gear and glitter.
No they are trash because they arent painted only with musou
Not know what mouso
its the blackest black on the market
Ah
That's a big rocket pod
I like it
I finished assembling the rest of my dudes, going to prime and paint them tomorrow and I'm excited
Wanting to start a slaaneshi CSM army but not wanting to use the current noise marine kit

Thanks
Custodes nice
how do you use contrast paints on larger flat areas? Or should i just swap to a regular variant of the same color for those larger patches of flat area?
So I brushed on the blood angel contrast paint but I feel like it doesn't look right or settle as neatly as the pictures. I was told to use it untainted straight out of the pot. Did I mess this up completely or do I just need a 2nd coat?
I also bought berserker bloodshade shade paint if that'll fix it. This is my first time working with anything citadel
It just looks really thick in places and thin in others and I'm not sure how to fix it:(
Contrast paints tend to not look really good on big, flat surfaces like on SM's
I mean you can just add coats until it's an even finish, or just paint a normal paint over
I recommend (it's what I do at least) to keep the contrast paint for areas which have a lot of edges (like the backpack, helmet and gun) but paint the rest like normal
nope, this is closer to the style of paint I use, its all about the method of application
For the future, how would you apply it? So I don't goof it up again like this one
hard to explain, one of those muscle memory things
I'll get back to you in the morning
Okay thanks I appreciate it, I've seen space marines look cool with contrast paints but this just looks like when I went too hard with the wash and looks bad
I'm gonna take a walk for a half hour and see what it looks like once it's fully dry. Hope it's better
I prefer to use contrast for things with texture and edges/recess shadowing while resorting to normal and layer paints for bigger flat areas. Contrast tends to run quite a lot so it wont give you a "proper" finish without a lot of extra work
Okay so if I were to use contrast paint on the chest backpack and legs and then use mephiston red for everything else would it look weird?
Nah, most likely gonna give you a good looking backpack and legs and a smooth finish on the the flat planes
Okay, well at least I know now, I'll try to salvage this one. Thankfully the store I bought it from had some lrettt friendly staff who said If I need help painting to just come back and they'll show me. And I gotta go back to get mephiston red anyways
Never used contrast paints, but from what I gather, you are supposed to really slother that thing on thick. There needs to be enough for it to self-level. You then go back and remove the excess from the areas where it pooled too much.
It id dries before it self-levels, you get that coffee staining effect.
Take this with a grain of salt but my local GW owner said to treat them like a mix between a base/layer and a wash, try to get an even coverage but let it soak into recesses and what not
Given the name it's not really a contrast if there's no, well, contrast.
So what he said makes sense there.
So my brain just translates that to it's a thick wash/glaze that you can use for base and layer too
Ahh alright that's where I went wrong, I did it sparingly. But someone told me what I could do to try to save it is heavily dry brush the area you fucked up on in a base coat of red and try to cover some of the stain
He said his process normally with contrast paints is base coat>contrast paint>dry brush base coat>highlight
Saved it
I tried making the cloak have checkers the top I seemed to succeed but the front and back look like dots so I might repaint this and make the checkers look bigger
What's the standard blood angels color scheme? Is it just red all over but paint the Aquila black? Do they have any different colored linings on the shoulders like ultramarines?
think heavy support have blue helmets, sergeants black shoulderpads, fast attack yellow helmets or something
Is it just me or are the yellow and blue just awful
nah it's a classic look
🤷
white is hard but i think this turns out nice
Two friends
Great I wanted to go the gw store today but the weather so absolute shit the 3 days I needed to schedule it for next weekend
Fucking hell
Aids northern European weather
Can't have shit in Detroit
What country? Norway?
The Netherlands
Niceeee
Ik
The weather where I’m at is bipolar
Can’t paint without some sleet bashing the window
That sucks
I live not that really far from the sea
I sit in the northwest part of the country
Alkmaar
they have a shop there?
Yes
In the edges of the city
Living In northwest Europe is. Not really fun you get alot of sea storms
Around autumn and ealry spring
And the weird part of. My country it rains for 20 mins than it wil. Be Blue. Weather and half hour later I wil be Gray clouds again
Maybe some variation in between skeletons
should I wait for 10th edition to get fully into the hobby?>
and get the starter kit?
for 10th?
Buy some basic marines or mooks in the meantime to practice painting
Or a combat patrol pack and pray to the emperor that your guys are relevant in a few months
Whatever you do dont buy a full army right now
yea
and for the reiver lt. i only need like 2 extra paints
maybe only the paint starter kit and flesh paints
Corpse_starch is typing...
Corpse starch coming in hot to tell us to get PB003F6TS80 pigment
And Im like HOW BOUT THIS NICE CALIBAN GREEEEEN
That's not a pigment there is no PB3, it jumps from 1 to 9 to 15 for some reason
No
i got them with the 3 marines + paints kit
The citadel bundles are rarely good deals
30 euros is a pretty good price for all that paint and the tools
You can get a case of more paints from Ara that are larger for cheaper
Hell, Vallejo is a better deal
Though Ara is pretty nice but hard to find
no clue where to start with those
The tools are crap and one of them (the moldline remover) is completely pointless as well.
Anything with a citadel stamp on it is repacked shit quality stuff sold at premium price. You can get better tools for cheaper.
Oh boy Yes, most hobby stores will contain those crap paint bundles from hobby companies. You can also go to an art store and get a bundle from a student grade line which will be vastly cheaper for more paint which will be the exact same thing as hobby paint because hobby paid is nothing more than overpriced student grade.
The only thing the hobby paint is use for is pre-mixed colors and convenience when you're buying models, they're not some high technology paint that some painters want to claim it is and the pigmentation is not good for what they are.
the thing is
valejo paints is 2,90 and citadel is 2.99
at the store i b ought my starter marine kit from
Vallejo is also a 17ml and citadel is a 12ml
There is also 30% more paint in the vallejo bottle - 17ml compared to GW 12ml
i see
It also comes in a dropper bottle, which is way superior to GWs pots
is there a chart that gives the citadel equivalents to valejo?
And a student grade is 2,00 for a 60ml
Yeah there's a lot of charts out there for that actually, you can also easily mix them if you want to learn. Mostly what citadel paints are is they take your bass color and they they mix various shades of gray into them
That's also little paint are as you mix in gray with them and then you got your signal paint, with a few exceptions here and there like the yellows, which they just mix in white and chalk with
i-i-i just want to make blue space marines
As for the tools. Go to a local hardware store and get yourself a pair of flatjaw nippers, should be costing you about 8 bucks or so and exacto knife and some spare blades. Even nobrands will be higher quality than citadel.
i have a small pair of snipper
and a file
though i didn't do a great job despite my tools. i shat my pants as i overshot my file and damaged the pauldron a bit
i call it a brown line in my calvin kleins
Use a glass file though if you're worried
a glass file?
Yes
my mom has one of those for her nails lmfao
Yes, the tools for nails are the same and cheaper than most hobby tools
Yeah, and we drybrush using makeup brushes. Just because someone tells you a thing is meant for something, does not mean it can't be repurposed. No reason to invent the wheel over and over again, is there.
i did loot of these as a drybrush
Have you seen the specter brush yet?
You take your paint you don't thin it down you make sure there's very little bit on your brush, And then you just slap it on
It's really not complicated. Takes a little bit of practice, but it is very easy. Destroys brushes tho.
I don't know why hobby companies are trying to reinvent the wheel with tools by the way, a lot of their ideas are really fucking stupid
Oh the last line of citadel tools is just the grossest thing.
I'm still confused by the specter brush.
Yeah
They were waste of raw resources
I went to my lgs and was talking about tools, they let me open a pack of the tools and god they feels so cheap
UK should have a law against products that are below a minimum standard.
I liked the original gw clippers with the brass coloured grips
Those clippers were also bad
Get a pair of hakko clippers and it will be way cheaper and vastly superior
Those are still some of my favorite clippers to date
And I own a lot of clippers, by a lot I mean I probably have 200 or so now
I just use the clippers electricians use.
damm time to trim
People will tell you "dont get this, get that instead"
But literally all you need is a hobby knife and even some walmart acrylics. You can upgrade over time.
And if you are beginning, most of what you do will be "bad" to begin with anyway even if you buy the best tools and paint
well there is a point where you are just fighting with the tools more and those tools will cause more issues
like a bad brush wont do the job nearly as well as a meh brush
Yeah but if you're a beginner your paint job is gonna be shit no matter how good your tools are
That's true, you don't want to be fighting your tools. It must be said though that cost for quality doesn't scale linearly, which is why people advise against buying expensive tools when just starting. The typical advice I heard was "buy a cheap/serviceable tool, and when that wears out, get a better one"
Like my buddy spent hundreds on name brand stuff and his paint job is... absolutely garbage
Just awful
Looks like a dog was fed playdough and then brought over to puke on a space marine
a good tool wont make you good, it will just lower the amount you fight with it
thats all they do
very few tools will give you a better outcome without skill
And for a beginner, the skill level is already low
I think you're missing my point
And you mine
Im telling him just go pick up some cheap stuff so that way if the hobby isnt for him he isnt cursing himself for spendig 50+ bucks on hobby accessories
I'm saying dont buy the cheapest thing because even as a beginner, all you will do is fight with it
Its pretty hard to fight with a basic hobby knife and clippers tho
Unless you got two left thumbs
I mean this in the most respectful way I can say to someone on the internet
all come from harbor freight
I dont care that much
I'm just saying dont buy the cheapest thing, this is bad advice
like the cheapest brushes are those plastic bristle brushes that no one likes
Buying a cheap product doesn't necessarily mean buying something cheaply made
Just dont buy dollarstore tier stuff
Walmart tier is acceptable if you're just painting like... cheap reaper minis
But once you go down the rabbit hole of 40k, like deep into army building, you will finally want the good stuff
I'd spend a little extra and get apple barrel over walmart
apple barrel craft paint really isnt that bad for craft paint
Bad tools are one way to absolutely ruin your interest in a hobby.
its a drastic improvement from the wallmart stuff
these are the brushes I was talking about
If you constantly struggle because your tools are crap, you won't want to hobby again.
you know the ones
This is the stuff I started out with. Now I just use these and sticky tac to hold my models
I see people get those brushes all the time because someone sayd "get cheap brushes"
You don't necesarrily need to go to the high high end, but get something servicable.
dude that stuff isnt actually that bad of paint
im a beginner,
invest in your tools and take your time with it. I wasted more minis than my tools lol
Oh bro, anyone buying these for warhammer should be slapped
especially the small brush they save me alot of pain
Yeah any beginner should have at least 1 good brush
Yes but the advice of buying cheap in most cases leads to that because hobby companies sell them too so instantly they think this is what you mean
A good beginner set is something like a royal and langickel or a windsor and newton cottman line
A nice 5 dollar paint brush set from walmart yup mhmm
I'd argue a $10 set from a name brand would be better in most cases, also brush soap
$10 sets because the cheap fine detail brushes royally suck
when i first saw brush soap i was baffled at its existence
brush soap is important even for synthetics
It changes the game and the lifetime of your brushes grows exponentially
I have had two fine tip brushes get their life extended due to the miracle soap
My favorite brushes too
I think brush soap is probably the one thing everyone can agree on with tools
dont have any yet but i also only have 2 brushes here at home atm
if you're using a sable brush without brush soap, rip that brush is dead
Brush soap should be a first purchase
I should be using it, but I honestly can't be bothered. So I just buy cheap disposable brushes instead.
The only problem with brush soap is now my brushes are living longer and I dont have a steady supply of brushes to use for glues and stuff anymore
I used to just use my old worn out crappy brushes for so much stuff
That's why I buy cheap brushes, for drybrush and such
I went and bought a makeup brush set for my drybrushing lol
I've been meaning to pick one up or just get used ones from relatives
I was gonna steal from my fiance but i figured she'd rather I didnt use her fancy brushes on my plastic dolls
I went and stole some brushes from a large streamer at a convention after he mocked my painting method as wrong
I use those as dry brushes
If it works for you can it be wrong? Heh, silly streamer
I am really hoping I won't end on Corpses bad side.
that wasnt even my bad side
I almost said there is no wrong way to paint your minis but... sometimes people post their end result and it is very clear that something went terribly wrong at some point in the process
Yeah, but sometimes the way someone paints just hurts my soul.
hey guys hows the white?
Finally got around to making Centurion pads for my Deathwatch.
I like to thin 15000 years ago our ancestors were crushing up pigment to paint rocks and play caveman wargames that way
Clean but blurry
I know.... There is this guy from this one discord with a drowsey picture... Hurts my soul everyt ime
If you're using a phone for photos you can pinch the screen to zoom in before taking the shot.
this is actually still true, most natural pigments are just crushed rocks
i tried
camera is so crisp tho
Much better.
i hate the fact it can point out every atom in my paint
Shade should make the details pop.
i dont have grey damn
i have white scar but this thing ruins my other minis last time
That almost sounded like me for a moment. Thanfully my picture is actualy Drowtini and my paintjobs are amazing. Objectively.
As still some of the base coat showing. That'll be another 50 coats of white im afraid
Yeah i already spend all day on this just this
i dont mind taking my time because the moment i fcked up, I lose my shit
I spent 1 hour just painting the inside of my chaplains cloak bone white. No one will ever see it
or I use my white paint
the fuck is a drowtini? I havent kept up with pokemon since the 90s
Drowzy and dratini banged
still not the most cursed one ive seen
Yeah, there are worse. But this one was a gifr from a friend. 
that makes it not cursed at all then
Just a heads up, citadel white paints (white scar and ceramite white) are really bad (greys are serviceable imo), I would recommend some other brand (like the artist paint corpse starch recommends). Every line has good and bad paints, pure white paint happens to be a bad product for citadel.
Yeah Citadel Whites are a problem... got a bigger can off "air white" this one is ok
Yeah, I wish I knew white scar was bad before I got it. I've been making it serviceable but..
Its so CHUNKY
Mmmm chunky
I've got to shake that paint for ages to get it decent
I do, do a layer of Celestra Grey into White Scar which helps a ton, but it's annoying
Thankfully you can make things read white by using pale greys, with true whites being used only for the last edge highlights.
I too made the rookie mistake of trying to paint white by starting with white at one point
add a little corn starch
its an old trick for craft paint
unless youre me then you read those light greys and off whites as light greys and off whites
looking to buy AK white paints instead
corax white is fine (not amazing) but i have learn to thin it as to avoid rough texture
Oh you fucked up. xD
yep i give my seargant away cuz of that
Not if you care about their controversy
the serious one at that
does their contro affect my paint
Of those I have none
It is honestly if you arent a holocaust denier
or wont want to fund white supremacy
so...
yeah the controversy is really fucking bad
eh
also their paints are very meh
Oh man I just looked at the controversy. Thats hilariously tone deaf
to be fair i just need good white paints
look for golden titanium white
that wont make ugly texture
high flow is an ink like one, soflat is matter
I showed @azure fulcrum the high flow live, it dries completely smooth
and it can one coat black
This mini looks like those hard skeleton memes
"I go to bed at 9 instead of 8"
not sure if they have golden in my country
nice bone did u texture it with wash and highlights?
Yos
mainly aus
They do and its actually fairly cheap there. Also you guys do have mattisse there which is one of the top artist paint producers in the world, aus has some of the best domestic paint
like Aus is a country I have to go to for work a lot because of how influential their paint industry is
mattisse? i will have a look
Derivan Matisse, I like the fluid line but its a bit glossy for a lot of my uses, but its durability is nuts
Golden is still my go to for quality and ethics, also they sent me a mug once
Very well, I can trust a guy who's name is corpse starch to know the benefits of all starches. (for real will try it though)
I use it every day because I'm a paint nerd
Damn I want a mug
i love this mug
its dorky
it has a health and safety label on it after all
cool ill take ur word and order it some time in the future, will see how it performs (since my guys will use alot of whites)
is it airbrush compatible?
yes
the high flow doesnt need to be thinned
not all acrylics are airbrush compatible
Some pigments can not be airbrushed at all, some because of how they work, some because of toxicity. Even with a fume hood and a mask, they are too risky
There will be that symbol on the side of the bottle if it's not airbrush safe
thats a cadmium btw
strange, photos not loading for me
could be discord being discord
you can open it up in a tab
but its basically just a circle with an airbrush in it and a line striking through it
ah i see
well i would probably need to consult you before i airbrush anything
dont wanna kill myself while brushing my minis
Yeah feel free, my dms are always open too
especially when im in an enclosed room
I will say, get a respirator for even basic stuff
the polymers arent good for the lungs either
regardless, here's my achievement for tonight. Might not seem much, but its something.
is regular mask going to work?
depends on the type of mask
a covid mask? not really but its better than nothing
me in my poorly ventilated room with my minis that just got sprayed with metallic primer drying in the corner
true, one time i sprayed, i enhaled the smell. was very dizzy and i get headaches, idk why i was doing that because i was experimenting. was very dumb of me
yeah dont do that, the mica particles are known to cause lung cancer, also the solvents in them can cause you respiratory harm
a respirator is pretty cheap, around $20~ aus so they arent a huge investment
I should go on vacation in aus again, I miss it. Going into the ocean and screaming at bogans for throwing vb cans at fish
best vacation ever
also, i tried out both tamiya and mr surfacer primer, from my personal opinion, i feel like Tamiya is better quality
Tamiya is a weird paint
So their paints are very low in pigmentation, but they are properly mixed
so they arent a high grade of paint, but they are well made
yeah well, i dont clicked with the paint (spray cans). I do really like their primers though
they are the least likely to damage my models
all spray cans contain acetone, but yeah they aren't super likely to fuck with the models
tried spray tamiya white on my models, lowkey regret that
for spray cans I just use automotive paint
same with varnishes, my varnishes are all automotive things
I love the gold, what paint do you use?
If you want a gold that really pops Ive found doing bronze and then gold is the way to go. Gives it a richness. Then you can add either a brown wash to grim it up or a red wash to get a rose gold tint
Buzz lightyear of The imperium
pics that go hard
taking to infinity and beyond to a whole new meaning
The crusade is eternal
I think I fixed my contrast mistake. How he lookin?
He's looking good
Looks angry
Space marine with a trench raider style
Only just realised that the shoulder pads don’t quite sit right and allows for some un painted parts to show through
Where did you get helemt?
3d printed it
awwww
Yeah a bit sad if ya don’t have one
Shame, that's a very good look for Iron Warriors
My friends guard vs another friends salamanders.
What warp fuckery is this you are a fox again? Did the gellerfield stutter? @rare hornet
When in doubt blame tzeentch
Mwahaha
plans within plans
Yeah. The confusion tactic works brilliantly.
First you get used to a foxgirl that gives good paint advice, then the foxgirl becomes a genetically enhanced supersoldier leading a grand company. And when you get used to that the supersoldier becomes a genetically enhanced foxgirl leading a grand company.
Long live chaos, let chaos reign
frantic handwaving in air
To bad I can't employ this tactic. It's bitterboy or shield for me 🥲
mine also wont change. royal cat for me
Yeah my base one is a wooden shield with a bloody helmet mark. Have used it for years now
got mine as a gift from a friend plus i love their art style
Funnily enough mine is too 😁 (not the iron warrior that is just a gif from the datastream 😐)
Which reminds me I should probably go look for the original file
It is somewhere on my pc
Ooh found the updated version I forgot about
Not enough baneblades
finished up necron force
Gronk
KNIGHT
Man the firstborns really do look fucking goofy as hell nowadays.
The fact that say 5 years or so ago I would have actually thought the tactical marines were super cool is mind blowing.
hit head with hammer
Keep in mind I'm purely talking about the sculpt not your actual model.
Need more rations
It's even more apparent having an unpainted primaris on my desk
But he is done, painted the hose, skull and parchment on the power fist
Now try painting yourself some bitches
But fr that looks like a decent tabletop standard
Now imagine saying that with current day Mortarion mini or the Chaos knights
Cause it's gonna happen at some point
I just finished testing my wet palette and painting probably my best mini by far
With the scale you're working with, I'm very very impressed
Was there any texture/detailing for the eye augment lense before?
well, time to start an Alpha Legion army
Nope, I meant to use one of my smaller brushes but I got so hooked into it I forgot to change
I saw a quick way to do eyes by putting corax white then tesseract glow on top as something easy
BA? Bonus action! Steady aim, full action shoot my short bow, I hit and use my steak attack due to my advantage and deal 27 damage and kill the goblin!
welcome to the Heresy
Already seen the 2023 Munitorum MK I sheet? Nearly every Troop choice i made until now got 10-15 pts cheaper (playing Black Templars) xD
got my right hip plate done, its not perfectly smooth but i think visually its getting there.
"New models. Whaddya think?"
"Wooah.. Very nice. Look at that."
"Picked them up from the game shop yesterday."
"Good painting."
"That's Corax White, and the shadows are something called 'Rakarth Flesh'."
"That's very cool Bateman, but that's nothing."
"Look at this."
"That is really nice."
"Primaris, with Macragge Blue. What do you think?"
"Nice...
looking good!
the emperor is dead only the truth matter
The army grows (marine assault intercessors of shame in the back)
Scab gunner here
Also fuck man, you've convinced me
Time to figure out how to Traitorise these dudes
join us mate stop obey à dead emperor

So basically im soon to get this SF command squad but im not sure how im gonna go about painting the flag as its just a flat piece with no ornate details. Any ideas on how I can tackle this?
Use transfers
I am considering that the problem is im not sure how easy it is to acquire them separate from the sets
Many people make their own transfers
That you can buy on etsy
So I bought the tactical marine squad, painted 3 as ultramarines before I got bored and started painting blood angels, I've been told that to make this army playable for games all I need is a Lieutenant and it'll be good but my question is can I use the space marine squad as a blood angels unit even if 3 are painted as ultramarines? As long as I specify "hey those count as blood angels"
yeah should be fine unless your opponent is being an ass
You can't in tournaments and that is it. In casual play it doesn't matter if the player cares, fuck that person
Just dont play with super sweaty players, ez
Ahh okay cool:) from what I've seen/been told the guy who runs the warhammer store by my house has like 0 tolerance for neckbeard sweat players in his store
The only people I have to play with besides immediate friends are mtg degenerates so you best believe I aint playin with those sweats after playing them in cardboard
Too many adult tantrums
Exactly, it's why I quit MTG, not wasting my free time watching a 40 year old man lose his mind over a game
Just say those marines washed their armor, Blood Angel's have been blue the whole time 😅😅😅
Or that the ulrtamarines decided to stop being the posterboys and wanted to become edgy vampire larpers instead
He getting there
eldrad or however you spell him?
Yeah, we also accept Eldad
very nice colour scheme
Ty, it lacks the white most of my army has, but I am piviting away from it as a whole. Can't stand painting white.
i dunno how to make the hair of my sororitas look more like hair aswell and not just a white helmet lol
Very thin layers
You could also use a small scalpel to try and put more seperation in the ares the hair parts
i am still super proud of how my first paintjobs turn out atm
Yeah, just gonna make my sisters hair black or red
hair is very difficult, took me a long while to learn to do it even remotely good
Look for watercolor hair tutorials, a lot of the time its just working from light to dark which is counter to the typical mini painter thing of working dark to light.
Any tips to make the "flames" pop out more?
They blend in with the rest of the mini because it's the same color scheme. Some highlight would make them brigher, but they will never stand out because of it.
Add another shade of orange to the red of the flames
Like a new shade that hasnt been used on the flames yet
Not another coat of the same paint
Muahahahaha have done it. I have bought 2 kill team legionaries boxes just for the burning magic, the 2 handed chainaxe and the reaper chaincannon.
I can now run 2 dedicated melee legionaries squads backed up and buffed by 2 shooty psycher legionaries squads ahahahahaha.
.
Yes I have gone insane
@rare hornet is this actually viable or am I just shooting myself in the leg with this?
reaper chaincannon goes BBBBRRRR
doesnt it have like barely under 10 hits or something like that=
8
To be fair, there's no wrong way to make a list
Current trooo deployment
What are you trying to do with the flames?
Are you trying to enhance the green or you trying to make a transition between the red and the green?
I know a lot of people are going to suggest fluorescent colors but you know me I'm not going to suggest something that fades very quickly also
Becoming better at painting is so much easier now with all these videos out there, 15 years ago it was all White Dwarf basically
Someone in my other discord found an old passage from a blood angels book that I can use as justification for my Blood angels/ultramarine army
We had a mini painting club led by one of the teachers back then. It was when I first tried to hobby and quit on it since the teacher was a dick. Has not taught us anything but endlessly complained about our results. Like...I was 10, how was I supposed to know I need to thin the paints?!
It wasn't even in the proper Chapter colours, having come from the Ultramarine's armoury a generation before. Bare metal showed in several places. Levi, however, like many of the suit's previous users, had refused to let the Techmarines repaint it. Every time its Ultramarine colours had been hidden, the suit's wearer had been killed. Levi maintained that the suit knew it was only borrowed, and even the Techs had come to believe the same. They had given up trying to persuade him to have it repainted in the proper colours.
Penitent egine I did last week
I like that used and "unclean" battle look... is a thing that always annoys me by citadel/gw photographs of minis... they are to clean xD
Have to be
Its for showing the product clearly
Also 15 years ago we didnt have resin 3D printing, its getting me back into the hobby since I quit in my teens
So much good stuff out there
Way better than GW
I intentionaly do not weather my space marines. The super grimy dirty look just does not fit for them to me. They are geneticaly modified relentlessly trained super soldier. Every scratch is a weak point, sand and dirt in joints and gaps slows you down, leftover gore is a safety hazard. And you don't need to be a techpriest to use a welder and a belt sander or some sort of epoxy. I like to imagine repairing these artificial flaws in their armor is one of the first things they do after a mission.
Looks amazing dude
Repairs will look diff to brand new though
Not really if done competently.
thank you ❤️
nice i was also thinking of getting one but instead i might just only get actual sisters for my first army with a bunch of major characters :D
First time doing Tau's and so far, i'm proud
Basics has become way easier but getting any information past that has become way harder and its filled with disinformation when you do. Plus you face this issue when you get into the higher end where you are forced to do the same style as everyone else or dont get anywhere and getting information on methods that are different dont really exist because its all influencer driven now, then you have people with zero knowledge trying to give you unsolicited advice on what looks better IE copying the same style as X painter because its influencer driven. It's a double edged sword
I wonder will gw make combat partrol for all chaos gods demons
the loadout these fuckers have is brutal
I paint 40k, I do not play 40k so I have no clue and I'm gonna take your words for it
But it does look mean
take my word for it
what white paint did you use, as me and my cousin are heaving trouble with his tau?
Ceramite white
Abaddon black for base color
Then Ceramite white, let dry
and paint over the parts that aren't evenly colored
(Hopefully my english isn't too broken)



