very cool
#40k-minis-and-armies
crude copper
jaunty trail
Thx
calm rapids
Does anyone have any links for 3d printing minis? Planning on just casual play, no tournaments
manic shard
that's literally me, fr
sterile grail
and here i am spending 2 days soending my recruit space marine
I'm too obsessed on little details and making it look perfect that I could never do big models
plush swift
and here i am spending 2 days soending my recruit space marine
I have over 30,000 hours of painting experience and decades of schooling. At the amount of hours that I'm at, you can speed through things very quickly because you've gained the muscle memory
So don't think about how much time you're putting into that single Marine, think about how much time you are gaining from experience of painting that single marine
It's all going to culminate and you'll get faster as you go
icy pilot
Yo, I don't think I showed this server my Alldwarf
sterile grail
So don't think about how much time you're putting into that single Marine, think...
I have yet to oil and highlight my space marines so any advice would be nice
as a beginner im just following Duncan's method on youtube
plush swift
I have yet to oil and highlight my space marines so any advice would be nice
I wouldn't try oil paints if you're new, It's a very long road to learn as they take forever to dry, and student grade ones can be really wonky
They never have a consistent trying time because the pigment dictates how long they take to dry
plush swift
Normal washes, specifically a pinwash
A pin wash is a targeted wash, while a normal wash you just basically dip it in something and call it a day, You're using a washes natural surface tension to guide itself along the edges and you're not getting it anywhere else
It's basically the same outcome as an oil wash on some levels.
icy pilot
Also the Corpseman is right, painting does pick up fast
The like, 12th or something mini I painted won a compition at my local store
sterile grail
yeah i agree, washes are more straightforward. I tried oil paint + gouache on my gundam around two years ago, it looses it's status very quickly.
plush swift
yeah i agree, washes are more straightforward. I tried oil paint + gouache on my...
One thing about gouaches is that depending on the type of gouache putting an oil over it is actually going to cause it to mix with the oil and then it'll cause it out all the flake off
sterile grail
yeah almost all the color is now gone
plush swift
So you have to be really careful with gouache so you have to use acryligouache which is a really weird thing because most that are market as that are actually that they're just acrylic paint
sterile grail
in fact when it rub it, it still comes off
plush swift
yeah almost all the color is now gone
Yeah so you cannot put an acrylic over an oil paint ever, and you have to make sure that the base coat is not water soluble or mineral spirit soluble which is why you have to put something called an isolation coat over an acrylic before you do an oil wash.
Even more so with a gouache because it is a watercolor which means it will pull itself up with moisture hitting it
Remember gouache was made for the fashion industry to be an opaque watercolor
sterile grail
I see
plush swift
There were opaque watercolors beforehand but it's really tricky and confusing
sterile grail
also do u recommend airbrush as I am someone living in an apartment
it's a pain to go out everytime to spray can
plush swift
I live in an apartment and use an airbrush, I also use a respirator and have a lot of safety stuff around for it
sterile grail
and i need consistent priming, the citadel priming cans are so inconsistency almost 40% of my space marines are ruined because of it
plush swift
That's because those things are not primers
icy pilot
You could manually basecoat it
plush swift
They are normal acrylic paint with some chalk in there for out of opacity, a lot of them also contain kaolin
Funny thing about them is that they are not marketed as a primer in the UK because there's an actual legal definition of what a primer is, unlike in the US where there isn't one
They just happen to call them a primer lot because that's a colloquial term for them
sterile grail
sometimes it gave me this, I really dislike these kind of texture from the primer
sterile grail
You could manually basecoat it
I don't think i will, basecoat with brush doesn't give smooth surface for me
icy pilot
you might be holding the can too close. What primer are you using?
plush swift
Tee is using citadel
sterile grail
you might be holding the can too close. What primer are you using?
actually its because i held it too far, im using the citadel cans
the closer i spray the smoother result i get supposedly
plush swift
You just can't spray too close to it or else you'll remove all the detail
It's a specifically you have to be like 6 inches away
plush swift
The gritty effect when you're holding it too far away is because the paint is drying in the air
sterile grail
again its still not very consistent and precise as an airbrush i would assume
plush swift
It's an acrylic paint so it dries very quickly
Airbrushes I wouldn't say are more consistent I would say that they're definitely more precise though
sterile grail
Yeah that would still be better as long as i got the ventilation in my room set up
plush swift
Airbrushes are whole different ballpark and they have their own issues
Like you can get this issue with airbrushing really easily called orange peeling,
And I mean it's really easy to get that effect, which is suboptimal
sterile grail
what is that
plush swift
And can be caused by being too far away, too close, too much moisture, not enough moisture, too cold, too warm, paint not thin enough, paint too thick, or all of the above all at once
plush swift
Basically what it is the paint you put on there looks exactly like an orange peel It has the same texture.
It could happen if your airbrush has too much moisture in the tube as well
There's a lot of ways for it to happen, It's basically the paint is drying unevenly
sterile grail
probably need to test spray it first
the problem is what to test spray and how to diagnose it
plush swift
You can DM me a picture if you want, diagnosing it is tricky to say the least
More often than it's because the paint is drying in the air
formal lichen
@sterile grail that looks like the cursed white primer issue, best to put your can in warm water for a bit if the can is cold, make sure its shaken thoroughly, three short sprays - shake - three short sprays - shake
I usually do this on old bases or old sprues just before priming any whites, obv its cant be too cold outside either
plush swift
<@208216057272336387> that looks like the cursed white primer issue, best to put...
This is actually really bad advice because the acrylic polymer and there is a thermoplastic and will actually disintegrate if you put it in warm water
You actually set yourself up for a problem with flaking in the future which because of a lot of white primers being highly carcinogenic it's really bad idea especially if you have pets
Titanium white is very carcinogenic, but it's also the safest white pigment we have unfortunately
What else are you going to use? Zinc well that can burn your skin right off, lead? Well I mean you could but... Something tells me that might not be very good
formal lichen
This is actually really bad advice because the acrylic polymer and there is a th...
never had issues doing it, 1-2mins in warm water and its fine, no different to it warming up in the house on a warmer day if its too cold
plush swift
never had issues doing it, 1-2mins in warm water and its fine, no different to i...
It's very different actually on a chemical and molecular level
Just because you've never had issues doesn't mean that all of the research papers from multiple paint companies that say otherwise means you're correct
It's actual really serious issue that many painters need to fucking care about and that is they poisoning themselves frequently, already had two students die from fucking dirty downs rust
It's not the company's fault, It's the fault of YouTubers who are promoting them as non-toxic when the company themselves says don't breathe it in because It's very toxic
icy pilot
hey look at this guy
plush swift
Is that a votann?
plush swift
Is there any kid bashing in it?
icy pilot
had some spare parts, so I though 'What about an alldwarf?"
icy pilot
Is there any kid bashing in it?
yea, Kitbashing was allowed. Only one other guy did tho. Others just made the base Kyn
plush swift
I was going to say that didn't look like a normal votann
icy pilot
it's the Monthly Mini from a while ago with various parts. Standard from a Theyn, Arm shield from an Einhyr champion
plush swift
Haven't seen the kit bashed one yet, so you have done one thing I haven't seen yet.
icy pilot
Added Axes and shields from Ironbreakers, runes from Fyreslayers, a bayonet from the 30k Marines, and some various AOS bits on the base
welp. goin to bed, Goodnight
plush swift
night
sterile grail
@plush swift do you recommend white vallejo miniature paint, I find citadel white paint to suck at giving smooth surfaces
plush swift
<@456226577798135808> do you recommend white vallejo miniature paint, I find cit...
No, i recommend looking at professional grades of paint specifically for white as lower grade paints will mix in too much zinc
or white ink even
sterile grail
what are the recommended brands
plush swift
Golden, Ara, Matisse, da vinci, a few others I dont remember the names of at this second
But golden is my go to
sterile grail
got this boy for me as well, hopefully itll perform better than the citadel one ill see
plush swift
it will
sterile grail
i dont mind invest if it meant to make my model as highgrade as possible
plush swift
Golden is my top pick for acrylics for a lot of reasons
Golden also works closely with people like me to develop the products to match the standards we require for conservation and restoration
Though I have shifted more into product development in recent years so havent worked with them very closely in a while
still do as they provide a lot of free resources and research data required for my job
Anyways I like most of their products, some are very meh though
the high flow line is an ink, which as an ink its really good
sterile grail
Golden is my top pick for acrylics for a lot of reasons
you mean these guys
sterile grail
not sure they have in my local store lemme check it out
sterile grail
you want fluid or high flow
whats the difference
plush swift
fluid is slightly thinner than hobby paints, hobby paints are soft bodied, high flow is an ink
soflat if you want matte
sterile grail
which would you say give better smooth finish even with brush
plush swift
high flow probably, but all of them will
high flow is a bit glossy though
Im used to that, most arent
sterile grail
i mean, glossy white won't be that bad i reckon
afterall i usually put decals on them afterwards
mint dove
So my space marine has a power sword as a melee weapon, I don't have all the blues and gray to make a power sword effect, but I have alot of metallic paint. Can I just paint it like a normal sword?
plush swift
i mean, glossy white won't be that bad i reckon
you can also put a matte varnish on after
plush swift
So my space marine has a power sword as a melee weapon, I don't have all the blu...
yes
you dont need to make it look like its glowing, you can also put some transparent ink over it too
you also only need 1 blue, white and black if you want to get into the huge jist of that
you dont need 57 blues and 97 greys
just dont let citadel know I told you
mint dove
Let me see if I have a good color of blue and gray hold
sterile grail
you can also put a matte varnish on after
only got this guy for now, dont know if compatible
plush swift
only got this guy for now, dont know if compatible
it is
mint dove
Okay how would I do it with these? I also have ultramarine blue but that's the color I'm using for the armor
plush swift
it wont turn out well with the metallic blue as thats a micca based thing
adding in white can cause muddiness
sterile grail
evolution of my space marine, the right guy is hopefully my final first completed pieces.
muted token
Someone tried to show me their salamanders and asked if I liked the red they did on the shoulderpads
I just blankly stared at them for about 4 minutes before reminding them I'm colourblind
(The shoulders and the main armour looked the same to me)
mint dove
Okay how would I do it with these? I also have ultramarine blue but that's the c...
Okay I'll use ultramarine blue. How can I get the effect without layering 80 different paints lol
atomic rose
But that is exactly what the power sword effect is. Layering a lot of thin paint.
plush swift
Okay I'll use ultramarine blue. How can I get the effect without layering 80 di...
by mixing your own colors
plush swift
I just blankly stared at them for about 4 minutes before reminding them I'm colo...
hey can you tell me how my blood angels and dark angels look?
muted token
As long as they're not next to each other probably
I only really struggle when stuff is next to each other
plush swift
they are combined into one
muted token
Then Probably not
plush swift
I layered them with 300 layers of heavy bodied acrylics
muted token
Sounds like the kind of thing you'd do
muted token
Oh did you wanna see what I'm reprinting my death guard with by the way
plush swift
sure
muted token
For marines
They won't have backpacks but oh well
as poxwalkers painted as various loyalist chapters
plush swift
I should add both my save for later
muted token
Honestly, the V&V campaign would be good for custodes too
Might need to find some good plaguey bolters for kitbashing but hey
plush swift
I might have some actually
muted token
There's a scifi pack that has like, one bolter
I mean, my plague marines don't really have bolters anyway?
Only thing that really needs them is blightlords
I plan on running a terminus est with like, a crapload of deathshrouds
sterile grail
I just blankly stared at them for about 4 minutes before reminding them I'm colo...
are you red green colorblind
muted token
Yes
sterile grail
im colorblind too but im more like red orange brown, or blue purple and every other color with different shades
plush swift
do you really need bolters if you can just make pew pew noises?
plush swift
I'm color blind myself but in a very weird way
muted token
I struggle with red and green the most, I struggle with blues and oranges too
plush swift
I dont not see color, I see yellow light which causes colors to look wildly different for me and I see way more of them
plush swift
another save for later
atomic rose
"I do not see color, I see the pigments the color is made of."
ebon mango
plush swift
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-plague-tank-204988
it reminds me of a weirdly cute demonic vacuum
atomic rose
Henry the howitzer?
plush swift
demonically processed roomba
severe citrus
My very first Blood Angel is done! I know he isn’t “canon” colors but I wanted to give my army a little more gold and silver
opaque canyon
Attempted this on my scarab occults
muted token
Lord of virulence, GW £24
My one that looks cooler and has a little demon kirby
Sorry
I just, Find this whole 3d printing vs GW thing hilarious
opaque canyon
Honestly they should just get the hint
opaque canyon
Yes
cerulean smelt
embrace the future and profit off it instead of fighting it every step of the way
muted token
I'd pay like £4 or 5 for an STL of one space marine
opaque canyon
I wouldn’t mind if the prints were a little pricey, at least I can print unlimited amounts
atomic rose
Not happening anytime soon. As much as we might want them to. If you want to play in GW store, you have to play their overpriced plastic.
muted token
Not even being sarcastic
atomic rose
They have no reason to convert to selling .stl files.
muted token
GW Sculpts are good, there's no denying it
opaque canyon
Or if you find a good looking model you can hide it
muted token
But with 3d printing I get to have my unique army
plush swift
I love 3d bits for that reason
muted token
And I get this adorable little guy for the base
In my mind he's just, Screaming non stop
opaque canyon
Yes
opaque canyon
I want to walk into my local GW with a knight army with correct base sizes but they are like tiny frog models
Frog on a comically sized base
muted token
I have a couple of armies printed up and it's all
"You can't play in this GW store"
opaque canyon
I have a full custodes army ready to be printed
muted token
Walk 4 doors down to the LGS I guess
plush swift
GW stores are lame anyways
plush swift
They serve mead
I want to go to this lgs now
opaque canyon
Sometimes they have nice mini communities at GWs
plush swift
and it will become my main one
rigid portal
Not happening anytime soon. As much as we might want them to. If you want to pla...
You really don't. It just has to look good enough which modern resin printers can certainly manage. Know plenty of people fielding painted resin in sanctioned events these days.
opaque canyon
Civilized?
atomic rose
Im banned from england
That sounds like another story I want to hear more about.
muted token
I actually eat mainly asian food
opaque canyon
Conquered the world for spices, yet never learned how to use them
muted token
I have a weakness for chicken chow mein with cashews
opaque canyon
Lmao I feel you
muted token
Even though my partner is deathly allergic to nuts
plush swift
That sounds like another story I want to hear more about.
So basically its really simple, I almost got arrested there for art forgery
muted token
and if they kiss me for a few days after eating it I'd better be near an epipen
Yes I'm picking cashew chicken chow mein over my partners life
atomic rose
So basically its really simple, I almost got arrested there for art forgery
More details please.
muted token
CAN YOU BLAME ME
opaque canyon
Hmm
cerulean smelt
playing in an official GW store sounds horrifying, tbh
like i'd be so scared i'm breaking a rule the entire time
i'm planning on rocking an entirely 3d printed army because i love 40k but i just can't afford it right now
muted token
I regularly forget rules
cerulean smelt
i'll eventually switch, though
muted token
I played maybe 2 games with AoC
opaque canyon
playing in an official GW store sounds horrifying, tbh
It’s fine
muted token
and remembered I had it
cerulean smelt
gonna buy GW paints and stuff to compensate if i can
atomic rose
like i'd be so scared i'm breaking a rule the entire time
It's not a game of WH unless you get "uh, actualy"d by a guy who has not showered for 4 days
plush swift
Wait you're seriously banned from England
not really but I run the risk of getting arrested over a stupid thing that happened over a recreation and a museum displaying it as real then blaming me for it
muted token
But GW paints are trash
rigid portal
It just depends on the store owner. Some staff suck. Some are great.
cerulean smelt
i've got a local place called games citadel, no clue how big the chain is but they seem friendly enough in there
opaque canyon
GW make like 3 good paints
Name them
plush swift
gonna buy GW paints and stuff to compensate if i can
naw, just buy cheaper paint from an art store and put some tape on it that says citadel
opaque canyon
i've got a local place called games citadel, no clue how big the chain is but th...
Texas?
muted token
Nuln oil, Blood for the blood god, Nurgles rot
cerulean smelt
maine, actually
muted token
Typhus corrosiun is heavy mid tier rust
opaque canyon
They dry too fast
opaque canyon
Okay
muted token
Also, we should not have a discussion about paints around corpse
cerulean smelt
no clue if it's big but they're nice
opaque canyon
Death guard?
muted token
Took a nap, came back, still going on about paint
cerulean smelt
anyways, i'm planning to have a buddy 3d print an army for me which then i'll need to paint
that will be hellish
atomic rose
Also, we should not have a discussion about paints around corpse
I feel like he's popping a vessel every time someone mentions liking hobby paints 😂
cerulean smelt
does anyone know what kind of money i'd expect to put into painting 500pts of mechanicus?
muted token
My only GW paint I currently own is uh
opaque canyon
Stores that aren’t tied to GW generally, from my experience, don’t care about printed armies
muted token
a bottle of B4TBG, a bottle of nurgles rot and about 6 LITRES of nuln oil
plush swift
seriously though, corax white isnt that bad its just A) a shitty paint and B) not titanium white
cerulean smelt
Stores that aren’t tied to GW generally, from my experience, don’t care about pr...
i'll buy a codex when i go in as a sign of good faith or something anyways
opaque canyon
a bottle of B4TBG, a bottle of nurgles rot and about 6 LITRES of nuln oil
6 liters?!?!
cerulean smelt
like pick up my mechanicus codex there
opaque canyon
i'll buy a codex when i go in as a sign of good faith or something anyways
Do that
cerulean smelt
i plan to bring a laptop with battlescribe, though
making a physical army list sounds extremely annoying
cerulean smelt
for mechanicus?
muted token
6 liters?!?!
Yes, I heard they were changing the formula and bought everything in like 9 different hobby shops
opaque canyon
Wahapedia and BattleScribe are great
cerulean smelt
easier than a physical datasheet / codex
no flipping through pages
just go to the section i want, ie doctrina or whatever
muted token
Plus the codecies are horrifically overpriced for books that have out of date rules
plush swift
a bottle of B4TBG, a bottle of nurgles rot and about 6 LITRES of nuln oil
I have the recipes for all of those btw
opaque canyon
Codexs are great imo since they also have some cool texts and stuff
cerulean smelt
i planned to read it for funsies
muted token
I have the recipes for all of those btw
You mean I can further distance myself from the company that makes the rules for the game I love
Sign me up
opaque canyon
I had the same problem with outdated codexes getting into tau lol
I got the 8th then by the time I started playing 9th came out
cerulean smelt
how long do you think until mechanicus gets a 10th codex?
muted token
Like a year
plush swift
You mean I can further distance myself from the company that makes the rules for...
b4tbg is pretty much just anthraquinone red, which you can make a close mix towards
plush swift
you can make it shiny, thats just gloss medium
muted token
It makes me sad that I actually want to distance myself from the company that makes a game I enjoy because they're fucking terrible people
plush swift
thats why I have a nuln oil recipe and the secret to nuln oil is white ink
cerulean smelt
It makes me sad that I actually want to distance myself from the company that ma...
can you go more into that? i'm kinda curious
atomic rose
It makes me sad that I actually want to distance myself from the company that ma...
Every company is terrible people. You could not even eat with that logic.
opaque canyon
how long do you think until mechanicus gets a 10th codex?
10th is said to be coming out sometime next year
cerulean smelt
i'm relatively new to the model side of 40k, very new to physically doing it
muted token
can you go more into that? i'm kinda curious
They killed Emperor has a TTS device
plush swift
can you go more into that? i'm kinda curious
google chapterhouse lawsuit
muted token
Is the quickest way I can explain it
cerulean smelt
They killed Emperor has a TTS device
fuckin' rip
opaque canyon
They killed Emperor has a TTS device
Truth
cerulean smelt
TTS is what got me into the setting
muted token
I got, so many people into 40k because of the community
opaque canyon
TTS was so good
opaque canyon
Plus the cliffhanger was the worst timing
cerulean smelt
TTS took me from "who is this skeleton on a chair" to now, where i'm about to start my mechanicus army
plush swift
basically for several decades they have targeted anyone who even mines a dime off the IP being mentioned
muted token
They actively try to smother people trying to do cool stuff in their hobby
Because they don't make money from it
cerulean smelt
that's fucked
opaque canyon
Astartes too
cerulean smelt
they charge 60 bucks for a model without paint
cerulean smelt
(for cawl i mean)
muted token
Dude they charge £2500 for a model without paint
opaque canyon
Magnus
plush swift
they charge 60 bucks for a model without paint
this honestly isnt even that bad
muted token
That will come so fucked you will have to fix it with a saw
cerulean smelt
they surely can't need that much money
cerulean smelt
this honestly isnt even that bad
in relation to other things or in general
opaque canyon
They give you a certificate lol
muted token
Oh GW kits cost like £2 max to make after the molds have been made
plush swift
in relation to other things or in general
Guess how much someone bought a painted cawl from me for
cerulean smelt
hundreds?
muted token
Guess how much someone bought a painted cawl from me for
I know someone that paid like £200 for a tabletop ready one
To be fair, is a nice model
plush swift
not at all
muted token
What did you paint it with actual gold
cerulean smelt
but cawl is also like, super finnicky i figure
opaque canyon
Why I am printed my custodes army, a buddy of mine is buying everything so I’m going to copy his army and print it for infinitely less cheaper
cerulean smelt
lots of small pieces
plush swift
What did you paint it with actual gold
showcase level, so over 100 hours
muted token
The reason I don't play admech is because cawl
atomic rose
Cawl is not that bad...just take a lot of time and attention to detail.
muted token
That model intimidates me
muted token
I also have super shaky hands
I paint most of my stuff with the speedpaints from Army painter
cerulean smelt
i'd like cawl if he wasn't mars specific
atomic rose
It looks horrible, it's actualy not. The only frustrating part about it was the little cables under his skirt. Took me good 10 minutes to find out how they are supposed to fit there.
cerulean smelt
i wish more tech priests were as huge and weird as cawl
muted token
That being said I am starting a death guard army, and will be printing a mortarian kitbash
visual cliff
I paint most of my stuff with the speedpaints from Army painter
Those are beastly good
cerulean smelt
not as huge and weird, but more so y'know
plush swift
I also have super shaky hands
that just gives the paint jobs your own personal flair
plush swift
I paint most of my stuff with the speedpaints from Army painter
I have a recipe to make these too
its dirt cheap
muted token
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-mortaya-full-september-2020-patreon-release-161296 will be the base for my mortarian
if anyone was wondering
plush swift
I can see it as a good morty base
cerulean smelt
is anyone here familiar with stationforge?
cerulean smelt
would it be fine to run a 3d printed army with their models as models?
they seem to match up well
muted token
Yes
opaque canyon
Honestly I like the mortarion model a lot, I would have it if it wasn’t $140
muted token
Just, be warned GW might Nazi you
cerulean smelt
it's a non GW store
muted token
Then there's literally 0 issue
cerulean smelt
i wanna run the scavs as mechanicus
opaque canyon
Just, be warned GW might Nazi you
Some store managers are chill, get to know them first
muted token
as long as you're not modelling for advantage nobody will care
cerulean smelt
they also just look badass tbh
muted token
I've literally been thrown out of GW stores for bringing my own terrain before
cerulean smelt
they look like a fringe forgeworld
plush swift
Then there's literally 0 issue
my lgs doesnt like 3d printed armies because it means they didnt get a sale
opaque canyon
Lmao
cerulean smelt
i like it a lot
muted token
my lgs doesnt like 3d printed armies because it means they didnt get a sale
I mean, The margins on GW plastic barely exist?
opaque canyon
True
muted token
Even more so now they price hiked people
Oh yeah another reason to be pissed off with GW
They raised the prices of their stuff 15% and kept the retail prices the same
plush swift
I mean, The margins on GW plastic barely exist?
its a store that doesnt get many sales for these products not because they over charge, but because its a store thats mostly for boardgames
muted token
Side note, I said GW not GW store managers, Most of them are super chill
Pick up a white dwarf or some paints and stuff, they won't massively care what you bring
plush swift
Side note, I said GW not GW store managers, Most of them are super chill
Some can be, the one near me is still swearing at me over facebook that acetone works fine to strip paint off plastic minis
plush swift
Dont worry, GW UK has told him off twice for that
muted token
Literally just wrong
opaque canyon
Lmfao
muted token
You can get paint off a model with a craft knife doesn't mean it's going to be "Fine"
plush swift
He's so confident he just bet me a free mortarion model
muted token
Twat
plush swift
Im about to melt a morty to win a free morty
muted token
Sounds like you are
plush swift
and then charge him for painting the new store display too
muted token
Does he not know acetone is like, one of the primary things in super glue
Not super glue
plush swift
plastic glue*
muted token
The melty plastic glue
plush swift
I knew what you meant
muted token
Do me a favour and send me a photo of the Mortari-lump after
opaque canyon
Yeah it melts and fuses the plastic
opaque canyon
Do me a favour and send me a photo of the Mortari-lump after
Wait do you win a new morty or the melted one
muted token
I don't win anything
I'm a spectator here
Just enjoying the thought of a model slowly melting in a tub of acetone
plush swift
Wait do you win a new morty or the melted one
yes
opaque canyon
I know forgot I had reply on
plush swift
I'm just waiting for me to bring a bottle of acetone in, melt the store morty, then him ban me for melting the store morty
100% expecting that as are most people
muted token
I mean, sounds like an American manager to me
"No I am right"
"You broke my thing proving me wrong, why didn't you warn me get out"
opaque canyon
Arguably worse
muted token
Happy now
cerulean smelt
northeast gaming
atomic rose
We are really de-railing #40k-minis-and-armies these days.
cerulean smelt
what
plush swift
we are talking about painting minis
opaque canyon
Southwest gaming
muted token
You and I both know that this is the only channel with tolerable conversation on this discord
cerulean smelt
this channel is super chill compared to the rest of the discord
muted token
I live in fear of the day of the rest of the discord noticing we're here
cerulean smelt
gives me high hopes for playing 40k physically in the future
opaque canyon
So
plush swift
There has only been one conflict here sofar too
opaque canyon
Thoughts on the data slate
plush swift
and im the most aggressive one here
atomic rose
There is a lot of conflicts here, corpse just does not see them because he is the center of them 🤣
plush swift
Did I miss this one? or cause this one
you missed it, it was stupid i'll dm you about it
cerulean smelt
am i the only one that wishes securtarii with the spears were good or useful
they look so cool..
muted token
I am preparing a list that comprises of Morvenn Vahl and like
2000 points of paragon warsuits for arks of omen
NUNDAM WARSUITS ENGAGE
opaque canyon
Ark of omen battalion, broadside spam go brrrrr
cerulean smelt
ark of omen looks neat
muted token
I am going to be able to have so many poxwalkers in arks of omen, part of why I'm getting a death guard print going
cerulean smelt
though, aren't kastellans often used for boarding actions
i don't remember where i saw or heard that
opaque canyon
Farsight is getting a new model which was the only thing holding me back from getting him
cerulean smelt
maybe it was battlefleet gothic, the pinnacle of accurate lore
opaque canyon
They got a buff recently
cerulean smelt
yeah, but not usable in arks of omen afaik
muted token
Boarding actions is actually really appealing to me
cerulean smelt
same
muted token
I used to really like Space Hulk
I've got the first edition of the game floating around in my loft somewhere
cerulean smelt
i just don't know how i feel about using kataphron servitors instead of something like kastellans for boarding
but maybe it's fine
for balance probably better
muted token
You should use the robots
Because robots are cool
AND
God that's such a good show
swift shell
making progress on my first ever mini
atomic rose
Nah nah nah, this 300kilos collosus is just tip-toeing to shank a guy
It also does not seem like you could tilt it in a way to make the feet flat on the ground
muted token
Sorry but I typed "Space marine" into the gif keyboard thing
Is that not a brilliant representation of what Henry Cavill has done to netflix by fucking off to make a 40k series on amazon
muted token
I hate >Most< companies
plush swift
that sounds like a better company than most
muted token
Yeah I asked him for some copper wire for electroplating
Next day a great big tub with like 2kg of copper wire turned up
plush swift
Next day a great big tub with like 2kg of copper wire turned up
neat
plush swift
Next day a great big tub with like 2kg of copper wire turned up
best dad ever... mine got is in prison for extorsion and war crimes
plush swift
No
plush swift
no we havent
we are like australia, but instead of fires and bogans, we have mass shootings
muted token
I thought the last one was in like, september or october
muted token
Not reporting them doesn't count as going without one
plush swift
thats what we think it means though
plush swift
we dont have enough dakka to be orks
atomic rose
best dad ever... mine got is in prison for extorsion and war crimes
Why do you have so many stories?!
Who directs your life?!
muted token
That's why nobody believes my ork theory, You're supressing the dakka
median flume
This arrived today. It’s going to be my first build and paint job, wish me luck lol
swift shell
is it me or is that glued on at an angle
its not
plush swift
Why do you have so many stories?!
im the kid of diplomat and a politician's daughter. and my family gets even crazier
plush swift
This arrived today. It’s going to be my first build and paint job, wish me luck ...
luck
swift shell
fair
swift shell
This arrived today. It’s going to be my first build and paint job, wish me luck ...
they had a bunch of these at my hobby shop today, wanted to get one but i dosent look very beginner friendly
muted token
This arrived today. It’s going to be my first build and paint job, wish me luck ...
Tip: You probably won't run the repentia superior that often because you can only fit 10 things in the rhino and 1 repentia is usually better than the superior
swift shell
plush swift
they had a bunch of these at my hobby shop today, wanted to get one but i dosent...
they are all equally friendly honestly
median flume
they had a bunch of these at my hobby shop today, wanted to get one but i dosent...
Oh believe me I know lmao, I’m taking my sweet time with this and going all out
swift shell
ah
atomic rose
They're a pretty new kit
Cries in pewter Skaven
muted token
I use a metal dreadnaught as a paperweight
swift shell
lol
plush swift
Oh believe me I know lmao, I’m taking my sweet time with this and going all out
just dont expect perfection or even good enough on your first venture
median flume
Got it since it was cheaper compared to the gw website so I had to. Been wanting to do a sisters of battle set for a while so I said eh why not
swift shell
is there a Krieg mini set or nah?
muted token
Nah
plush swift
is there a Krieg mini set or nah?
yes sort of
median flume
just dont expect perfection or even good enough on your first venture
Oh for sure, I’ve been taking in lots of info on painting and construction of the minis but I know I’m gonna mess up along the way lol. Def gonna help me kill some time
muted token
Kill team exclusive kit right now
swift shell
isnt that the new one?
muted token
Yeah the one with the orks
swift shell
ah,kk
muted token
plush swift
Oh for sure, I’ve been taking in lots of info on painting and construction of th...
if you need help, just ping me I do this stuff for a living
median flume
Sisters just got a hell of a lot worse with balance dataslate
I don’t think I’m gonna be playing, I’m mostly interested in the painting aspect of it. Its amazing what some modelers do
muted token
Fair enough
median flume
if you need help, just ping me I do this stuff for a living
Will do, thank u!!!
muted token
You'll get a kick out of painting celestine
That's a great model but good luck getting it to STAY ATTATCHED TO IT'S FUCKING BASE
median flume
LOL
atomic rose
That's a great model but good luck getting it to STAY ATTATCHED TO IT'S FUCKING ...
I had no issue with it
muted token
When I was painting an official celestine
atomic rose
There are little rock pieces at the bottom, those stick well.
plush swift
https://prnt.sc/EQK7KcPR5kQw
a sadist
muted token
Like "Oh I've been sat on this desk for almost a half hour now"
"BETTER BREAK"
So my 3d printed one is on a pillar
It's a shame because it's a really cool model and she's one of the better HQ's in the book
plush swift
yeah my void dragon is similar
muted token
There's also fluff that supports greyfax and celestine banging
plush swift
its such a stupid idea
muted token
reef wren
that sure is a funny looking helmet on that Black Templar
muted token
I am also still upset that Lotara Sarrin doesn't have a miniature
I would say she should be a Daemon prince(ess?) but that implies she'd be leaving the Conqueror ever
plush swift
Hehehehehehe
plush swift
lilac moth
This gonna be as hell to paint as it looks like?
atomic rose
On the right - army painters Regiment, Detail and Insane detail brushes (slightly used, so not exactly fair comparisson, but they look pretty much the same as the day I bought them. I remember being very dissapointed with the tips on them), priced at 3-4€ each.
On the left - Renesáns brand brushes I got from my local art store, siczes 2, 0 and 3/0, priced at 1,5-2€ each.
Thanks for saving me quite a lot of money @plush swift
So far the only downside is the Renesáns brushes don't fit in my brush case. 😅
muted token
Don't compliment it
It'll start complaining about the paint in the background of people's photos
atomic rose
Decided to start painting this dude. Was about to do him in classic angelic whites and blues. And then I noticed the symbol on his chest looks a lot like solar eclipse. So I decided to paint him like that instead. "You fucked up, heaven be mad now" sort of thing.
fiery anvil
Don’t mind me, nothing heretical here officer
Please don’t report me to the inquisitor please 🙏🏻
muted token
hol up
are those nurgle sisters?
If they are, It's mandatory that you link me to those stls
brisk vapor
those are GW models, the new cultist elite unit
muted token
Never mind
limber widget
muted token
I've been looking for nurgley sisters forever
left egret
Any pointers on how to make future plasma gunners have more glory plasma
This green is a mix between warp lightning and tesseract glow
atomic rose
Undercoat with lighter color, pure white near the bottom edge, dark plasma colors on top of the "ribs"
- Analyze
- Replicate
left egret
Undercoat with lighter color, pure white near the bottom edge, dark plasma color...
Would this work with green as well
atomic rose
Of course, its a technique. Colors are up to you.
left egret
atomic rose
Just look at the picture and try doing the same thing with colord you want.
left egret
Will try this 
fiery anvil
If they are, It's mandatory that you link me to those stls
It’s been answered already, but the Dark Commune are fantastic models
Plenty of opportunities for Nurgle worship 
muted token
My lord of virulence should be done printing in a couple of hours
naive umbra
Finished assembling my XV25 Stealth Suit Squad.
plush swift
It'll start complaining about the paint in the background of people's photos
But they have 20 bottles of corax white and keep saying it's good
plush swift
On the right - army painters Regiment, Detail and Insane detail brushes (slightl...
Soon I'll convert you into a paint snob
atomic rose
Soon I'll convert you into a paint snob
limber escarp
Are pictures of 3d printed minis allowed? 🙂
atomic rose
Are pictures of 3d printed minis allowed? 🙂
<sarcasm> Nuh, no, definitely not. SUPERIOR GW DETAIL. REEEEEEEEE </sarcasm>
limber escarp
<sarcasm> Nuh, no, definitely not. SUPERIOR GW DETAIL. REEEEEEEEE </sarcasm>
Haha I will take the chance and post this techmarine then
I play Iron Lords. An iron hands successor chapter.
plush swift
Steel hands?
Iron foots?
I play an iron hand successor chapter called cyberdongs... Brings a whole new meaning to iron within, iron without
Yes, my sense of humor is bad
swift valley
Excuse me if this is stupid of me to ask but 30k official minis are also allowed?
plush swift
we post them here a lot
sterile grail
i am having a mental break down painting the eyes
plush swift
i am having a mental break down painting the eyes
use a pen
sterile grail
that's alright, i got most edges done, the wash will do the rest 😎
retouched the silver so that it covers the black nicely, I think i am done painting the head
sterile grail
o how do u make black fade out to silver like that
atomic rose
I am not aware of any black to silver gradiant being present. What part do you mean?
sterile grail
the top of the guy's horn
atomic rose
That is just unpainted. 😅
Some edges probably got caught as I was drybrushing the shoulderplates
limber escarp
Yes, my sense of humor is bad
I think my warhammer friends would disown me if I dared make a chapter with a name like that 😄
sterile grail
failed washes... i am dissapointed, i am going to restart a new head tomorrow
head wash*
proven marsh
rare hornet
failed washes... i am dissapointed, i am going to restart a new head tomorrow
Well what was you going for?
because that looks fine to me
sterile grail
Well what was you going for?
I should have kept the washes on the recesses only, but i went greedy and wash the whole thing because i thought it won't be too dark. I was wrong
and plus when it dries the recesses on the blank spot looks horrible
can't stand it ugh
im kinda frustrated cuz I soent 2 hours to paint the head nicely, only to fuck it up with 1 minute of wash
rare hornet
it looks fine to me
atomic rose
Overall wash is how it is often done tho. You wash it all over, then you go back and paint over all of the areas where the wash did not settle.
sterile grail
this part in particular infuriate me, why must there be a wash in the middle there... and the side washes aren't looking smooth either. when i try to touch it up with regular white it just doesn't look as good.
I should have known to be delicate with wash when it comes to white surface and focus on the recesses only
still got one spare head tomorrow, will try painting it red with white stripes instead, afterall white head doesn't quite fit with the whole body anyways.
atomic rose
It will probably look worse with targeted wash honestly. Whites are kinda finicky. If you do a targeted wash, it will likely end up with a hard line between the normal paint and the washed area. This should be easy to touch up honestly.
But if it really bothers you, just don't use a wash and glaze it instead. That way you'll have full control over where what color goes, but it will also take significantly longer.
sterile grail
But if it really bothers you, just don't use a wash and glaze it instead. That w...
glaze as in glazing darker paint right?
atomic rose
No, the entire thing. Start with the darkest color as the full coat and then slowly build layers of lighter and lighter colors where you want them.
sterile grail
i honestly dont know how i will deal with units like deathwings from dark angels if washes tends to clumps up in random spots like that. my ocd will jump off the roof
atomic rose
That is the problem with washes. You trade control for speed and convenience.
plush swift
it looks fine to me
i can see why tee is frustrated, a few sections are not the smoothest in terms of transition
plush swift
i honestly dont know how i will deal with units like deathwings from dark angels...
add more surfactant to the wash
sterile grail
I think i will need to paint more regular marines until I am confident enough to move to the seargents and bladeguards. I made all calculations but damn am i bad at predicting outcomes
the only anxiety i get is that if i mess up one part for those guys, i mess up my whole model.
atomic rose
Too much perfectionism will kill your interest in the hobby. As painful as it is admit, sometimes you are not skilled enough to make the model look the way you want. Pushing yourself and trying hard is good, but sometimes good enough is good enough. Give yourself some easy wins first, as you continue your brush control will improve, your understanding of paint will get better and you'll have more techniques in your tool belt and all of that will allow you to make it better next time. 😉
There was a lot of time when I thought "This is not exactly what I wanted, but right now I do not know how to make it better."
sterile grail
Too much perfectionism will kill your interest in the hobby. As painful as it is...
yeah ur right, at the end of the day i should be enjoying painting, not expecting that it is going to look as good as possible.
atomic rose
It it easy to get overwhelmed by those incredible looking minis out there. But those are minis that often have hundreds of hours behind them. And often with every single speck of paint placed in a way to make that model look perfect for exactly one photo from a very deliberate angle. So do not compare yourself with others and especialy not on the internet.
plush swift
yeah ur right, at the end of the day i should be enjoying painting, not expectin...
youre new, dont expect anything to look good
sterile grail
this is some really deep mistake i take in mind when i paiint white helmet like these next times. Previously i did put some medium over the wash to lighten it up, the head looks perfect, and then i decided to put another coat of regular wash because i was greedy lol
atomic rose
Mistakes = experience. Experience you can tap into next time.
sterile grail
👍
plush swift
use the mistakes to your advantage
mistakes are where the art is, the brush strokes and the rest
sterile grail
If i managed to finish this guy i shall call him the "Chosen one" by the emperor.
sterile grail
the first ancient to overcome the painting challenge
plush swift
Reminder.
we call that bad yet its so famous and endearing that can it really be called bad in terms of art?
atomic rose
Here, have my Gotrek. I fucking hate this model.
I hate his tatts, I hate his face, I hate the axe.
plush swift
eye spot something
atomic rose
All of those are things I did not know how to do better.
floral wind
this part in particular infuriate me, why must there be a wash in the middle the...
You think your washes are bad? Far better compared to mine
pastel grotto
Brother i need thinner paints
floral wind
Brother i need thinner paints
Thick paints for Thicc boi
atomic rose
Brother i need thinner paints
My first dready also suffered from TPS (thick paint syndrome)
pastel grotto
then you have NSS (No shade syndrome)
atomic rose
eye spot something
He looks like he's on the receiving end of a kick to the balls. 😭
plush swift
He looks like he's on the receiving end of a kick to the balls. 😭
pretty sure dwarves are into that though
atomic rose
I'm not kinkshaming. It's just not an expression fitting that situation.
atomic rose
For when you need the thing you sniped to really never come back.
floral wind
Its just a BIG sniper rifle
plush swift
That is not a sniper rifle xD
sounds like youve never played battlefield
floral wind
sounds like youve never played battlefield
Oh I have
Like anyone else I used the Tankgewher on infantry rather than vehicles in bf1
plush swift
I used it on planes
plush swift
not all the time
floral wind
Well if it was low enough to the ground it usually was
plush swift
I knew a lot of pilots who knew how to deal with it, plus you had the quick repair fighter
floral wind
Wings were also a good shot if taken out
plush swift
I played with a lot of the top pilots at the time, miss those days
I was one of the top tankers, so I was always criticized for my play style of cautious
was top 5 for LS and SC tanks for a long time, LS was so bad and I hated it but it was funny
it was bad because of the randos who'd hop in and shoot the cannons off randomly
floral wind
Impressive, I too miss those days. How fun they were. Shame I was late to the party so missed most of its game-life but had tons of fun all the same
plush swift
I should try playing it again
floral wind
I wont. Mostly because my only account is on ps and i dont use it enough for ps+
copper siren
First model WIP
tough moat
I used it on planes
in germany we say :"shooting sparrows with a canon!"
deft fable
I do have 15 bases for a 14 plague marines set. Is it normal?
novel quarry
Time to attack the pile of shame!
azure fulcrum
Got a refresher course on the basics from my local GW manager yesterday and got an advanced course tomorrow for another refresher on freehanding for the style I want to do for my CSM/TG army tomorrow. Will post my end results then for you all to tear me to shreds over the slightest details.
Hadn't painted a model for over 6 years so it's good to get a hands on lesson where I don't have to stress over ruining a model I paid for.
For reference, this is the inspiration for my entire armies paintscheme. It's gonna be torture, but rewarding.
plush swift
Got a refresher course on the basics from my local GW manager yesterday and got ...
if you also want to venture outside of eavy metal or make it your own, feel free to ping me. Sometimes doing something your own way feels better, its why we have a thing called pastiche
pastiche is basically you taking inspiration from a style or styles then turning them into your own, derivative is just using that style without any real evolution or uniqueness of your own flair
both are actually highly valued as skills
derivative has a negative connotation, but unless you can copy the masters as closely as possible, you'll never get far within a lot of sections of fine art, even less so within restoration and conservation
a master at it is called a forger, sometimes called "reproducer"
atomic rose
Is being bad at replicating art style derivative or pastiche?
plush swift
reproduction is just a legal forgery
plush swift
Is being bad at replicating art style derivative or pastiche?
No, its called being bad
atomic rose
No, its called being bad
But it puts my unique flair on an art style. 😭
plush swift
But it puts my unique flair on an art style. 😭
that means its an entirely new style
atomic rose
that means its an entirely new style
Yeah, I call it "'eavy metal, but bad"
plush swift
Soft rock
atomic rose
'ight metal
plush swift
'oft metal
left egret
You think your washes are bad? Far better compared to mine
Lucky me that washes like that make my iron warriors look good
Grimy siege boys need a bit of grime
Still don't think your wash is bad... but am a noob so my opinion is probably nor valid
floral wind
Still don't think your wash is bad... but am a noob so my opinion is probably no...
Thank you I appreciate the feedback and tbh I do like the grimy effect its given
azure fulcrum
if you also want to venture outside of eavy metal or make it your own, feel free...
I'd certainly love getting a lesson from someone as skilled and knowledgeable in the arts as yourself. I really want to be able to hold myself to a relatively high standard, and since I'm a devout of Slaanesh I think it would be an offence to create anything far from perfection.
plush swift
I'd certainly love getting a lesson from someone as skilled and knowledgeable in...
I'm just cleaning up my apartment but I'll be free this weekend if you are interested
mighty gust
That is not a sniper rifle xD
oh, my poor sweet summer child, you know not of tank sniping
azure fulcrum
Welll tomorrow my mother is coming down for my belated birthday and then I'll be getting the second half of that tutorial at my local store, since I can't bring myself to leave a model half finished, even if he is a gross loyalist ultramarine, so would the day after work? Timezones may be an issue but I'm sure we can figure something out.
floral wind
oh, my poor sweet summer child, you know not of tank sniping
Im aware 😦
azure fulcrum
The only catch is I have not yet reassembled my tools yet, no brushes or paints or anything, I've just been securing a few limited edition box sets.
atomic rose
I am honestly up for just being screamed at for my poor paints choices.
azure fulcrum
One thing I would like to do and I don't know if you'd approve or not, but I would like to use some flourescent inks in my style so all the offensively bright colours pop under UV
plush swift
Welll tomorrow my mother is coming down for my belated birthday and then I'll be...
I'm est, but really I'm free most of the weekend and next week is just some organizing and commission work. I have a few months off for medical leave
left egret
Thank you I appreciate the feedback and tbh I do like the grimy effect its given
Agreed grime is glorious
atomic rose
One thing I would like to do and I don't know if you'd approve or not, but I wou...
I think you'll be fine, as long as they are not Scale 75 fluo paints 
plush swift
^ this guy clearly watches my videos
plush swift
One thing I would like to do and I don't know if you'd approve or not, but I wou...
you can do that all you want, I just warn that fluo pigments are fugitive so they will fade very quickly
atomic rose
How do they taste tho?
plush swift
How do they taste tho?
like dyed polymer particles
azure fulcrum
Faded colours are an offense to Our Lady in Pink.
Anyway, time to shave my little baby face and get ready for work.
plush swift
I don't want no fading.
most fluos are ASTM 5 BW 1-3
blue fluos are ASTM 4 which is huge for a fluo
azure fulcrum
most fluos are ASTM 5 BW 1-3
I'm gonna be honest with you, chief.
I have no fucking idea what you just said to me.
plush swift
I'm gonna be honest with you, chief.
I have no fucking idea what you just said ...
Lightfastness rating, basically how long it can last in UV light before fading
azure fulcrum
Ah ok.
plush swift
5 means a few days, 4 means up to a week maybe even 2 weeks
azure fulcrum
There is much to learn.
marsh nimbus
(He does this for a living)
atomic rose
I love how Corpse became a well of knowledge and a meme at the same time.
plush swift
(He does this for a living)
the knowledge is a blessing and a curse
azure fulcrum
And I make a living being borderline mentally challenged.
It will be a student teacher match made in heaven.
plush swift
I love how Corpse became a well of knowledge and a meme at the same time.
I become this a lot, a lot of discords will both frequently mock me but also ping me for advice
azure fulcrum
The hardest part is going to be Corpse trying to stop me from drinking and huffing my paints.
plush swift
and I wouldnt have it any other way
plush swift
The hardest part is going to be Corpse trying to stop me from drinking and huffi...
just dont drink the heavy metal ones
at least try not to
atomic rose
Paint without lead is like decaffeinated coffee
plush swift
My daily dose of iron and minerals
and cadmium and chromium too
plush swift
Paint without lead is like decaffeinated coffee
have you seen my coffee mug?
azure fulcrum
"I like a good drink that gets stuck in me teeth." - Gronk
atomic rose
have you seen my coffee mug?
Is it filled with various shades of ultramarine?
azure fulcrum
Shave time.
plush swift
Is it filled with various shades of ultramarine?
I sent you a picture
plush swift
Shave time.
have a good shave
plush swift
have you seen my coffee mug?
If you use one that’s broken your less likely to drink out of it
plush swift
Paint without lead is like decaffeinated coffee
Man, lead paint was awesome
Modern house paints don’t even compare
plush swift
If you use one that’s broken your less likely to drink out of it
I have a giant metal container for mineral spirits and a bucket for my acrylics, I still will attempt to drink from them some days
plush swift
Man, lead paint was awesome
they still exist btw, legally commercially sold too
atomic rose
I am also fond of wearing respirators in my own home.
plush swift
they still exist btw, legally commercially sold too
I don’t know if it is down here, I think it’s been banned since like the 80’s
Oh, some specialist paints still have red lead
plush swift
I don’t know if it is down here, I think it’s been banned since like the 80’s
what country?
NZ
plush swift
Oh, some specialist paints still have red lead
and yellow lead and white lead
White lead was banned 1979
plush swift
NZ
perfectly legal there as artist paints actually
I import a lot of lead paint there
Oh neat
I never knew
its expensive
atomic rose
I import a lot of lead paint there
Poisoning the world, one country at a time
plush swift
think $200+ a tube
Its listed under cremitz white, sometimes flake but flake is another thing, its a zinc lead blend
marsh nimbus
Gee, that's almost as much as Mortarion.
atomic rose
With enough lead paint, you could make your own Mortarion irl
marsh nimbus
What in the god damn?
plush swift
What in the god damn?
tyrian purple, 3.5mil a kg
atomic rose
What is that one made of?
plush swift
mucus from a murex snail
marsh nimbus
I cannot even wrap my head around the fact a kilo of PAINT is 3.5 million dollars.
plush swift
requires killing a lot of them to even get a kg, something around 500k or more
atomic rose
Short when?
plush swift
Short when?
when I get some more of the pigment for my personal collection
I only have 1mg, which isnt enough to show up on camera
atomic rose
Wait you have to kill them?! Can't you just let them snail all over like snails do?
plush swift
gotta kill them as you need their organ
atomic rose
Poor snails.
plush swift
its not really made anymore for a reason
marsh nimbus
Skill issues.
atomic rose
Could that reason be murdering millions of snails?
plush swift
its not really made anymore for a reason
plush swift
I cannot even wrap my head around the fact a kilo of ***PAINT*** is 3.5 million ...
thats the pigment, if you were to turn that into paint, it would be closer to 20-40mil
atomic rose
Ah, so it wasn't just me.
marsh nimbus
Honestly sounds like a skill issue for the snails.
atomic rose
Seems like everyone has issues with sending messages. 😄
plush swift
I cannot even wrap my head around the fact a kilo of ***PAINT*** is 3.5 million ...
thats the pigment, the paint would be around 30mil or so
atomic rose
Discord please.
marsh nimbus
Wait, the pigment is 3.5?
plush swift
yes
marsh nimbus
Capitalism is fucked.
atomic rose
It's such a pretty color, damn
plush swift
marsh nimbus
I don't care if it's a pretty color, there's no way it's worth 3.5 million a kilo.
marsh nimbus
It's probably so you can say, "Oh they had to kill SO many snails to make this and they don't even make it anymore".
atomic rose
But can you really tell you're painting unless like 3 milions snails died for it?
atomic rose
I don't feel like I am painting unless a species goes extinct because of it.
plush swift
It's probably so you can say, "Oh they had to kill SO many snails to make this a...
the demand is very low and the only version thats used anymore is the blue version and thats for a very specific dye for a rabbi garment
marsh nimbus
So it's super expensive because low demand and supply?
marsh nimbus
Skill issue.
atomic rose
you forgot the murder of snails
plush swift
its way cheaper now than it was when it was in high demand too
atomic rose
actualy murder is a bit too light of word, genocide of snails
plush swift
its the original purple, the royal purple
marsh nimbus
So?
plush swift
you used to beable to trade a single scarf dyed with it for equivalently around something close to 600 trillion accounting for inflation
it was a fucking nuts number I dont remember
marsh nimbus
Gross.
plush swift
it was basically more wealth than what all the billionaires have combined
marsh nimbus
Why are we allowed to do that?
plush swift
humans follow no rules
marsh nimbus
We should.
atomic rose
I don't care how many molusks need to die, I want my pretty purple scarf. And I'll fucking have it.
😤
marsh nimbus
No.
atomic rose
Stop me.
marsh nimbus
I can’t. But lack of paint and funds to buy the paint will.
atomic rose
See, I have a superpower. It's called disposable income.
marsh nimbus
30 million dollars worth of DI?
atomic rose
No, but I hardly need a kilo of paint to dye a scarf, do I.
plush swift
you'll never get a kg of it anyways
atomic rose
How much do you reckon I'd need to dye a single piece of clothing?
plush swift
the pigment museum only has 3 grams of it, if that says anything
and this is a place that has 4kg of indian yellow
which is insane
plush swift
How much do you reckon I'd need to dye a single piece of clothing?
not much as it is a dye so its water soluble
atomic rose
Are we talking like 2-3k worth of pigment?
atomic rose
Right. Of course, that is expensive for a piece of clothing, but it is still affordable. There are better ways to spend the money, but if I'd really want to wear some dead snails, I could do it.
plush swift
We do worse these days
atomic rose
I mean yeah. looks at chicken farms
Breeding and harvesting some snails seems hardly harsh compared to whatever we do to chickens, pigs and cattle
marsh nimbus
Hey hey hey, I would object but I dunno what you’re referencing.
plush swift
and you also have mummy brown
marsh nimbus
You said mummy and I instantly thought of Setra.
atomic rose
You said mummy and I instantly thought of Setra.
Kinda, in snortable form.
marsh nimbus
Speaking of mummies, who’s that one Necron who just collects stuff?
atomic rose
That would be Trazyn the infinite
marsh nimbus
Ah.
plush swift
his model sucks btw
marsh nimbus
You reckon he would collect some of the purple stuff?
plush swift
its insulting to trazyn
plush swift
You reckon he would collect some of the purple stuff?
he collects moments in time, so probably not
marsh nimbus
Maybe just the moment where the dye was first created?
Maybe even “document” the process?
atomic rose
Maybe the moment the snails went extinct
marsh nimbus
Or can he not go back in time?
plush swift
he can, but how far back is in debate
marsh nimbus
I see.
atomic rose
Pretty much any necron can travel back in time, but it is believed their time travel, while more precise, is more limited than warp time travel.
hazy meadow
Infinite and the divine was so good
marsh nimbus
Yeah, cause I guess that raises the question of “Why doesn’t he go back to before TDAOT?”
azure fulcrum
Need to find time to sit down and figure out suitable music references for my entire CSM army
atomic rose
Need to find time to sit down and figure out suitable music references for my en...
Thomas the tank engine theme, on repeat
azure fulcrum
So far my Kill Team is named The Electric Six and has two confirmed members, Jamiroquai and Lacquer Head
azure fulcrum
Thomas the tank engine theme, on repeat
No no I don't mean a theme song I mean like, everything is named after a song, album or artist
pliant kite
azure fulcrum
Don't think I'm gonna use Obliteratora tbh
white shore
azure fulcrum
I want the old chaos dreads that could take twinlinked Blastmasters
atomic rose
Get your minis out of our rant and memes channel. 😂
plush swift
Need to find time to sit down and figure out suitable music references for my en...
agonoize?
azure fulcrum
Hmm maybe, I'm trying to stick with things I both know and like
I'll have to check that one out
I have decided on another name, Psycho Killer, who shall dual wield combat knives named Fear & Delight
deft fable
I do have 15 bases for a 14 plague marines set. Is it normal?
Any idea ? 🐸🙏