40k-minis-and-armies

[plush swift]

You can use craft paints just fine, just mix some corn starch into them and thin them

[dark violet]

wow stupid bot

[plush swift]

no need to buy uber expensive paints

[dark violet]

i nearly bought a dreadnought today for 50€ but that would have been all my money

[plush swift]

this hobby is way too expensive

[dark violet]

it is but a friend of mine does own a 3d printer :3

[plush swift]

I have a closest full of high end scale models, it costed 1/3 less than a drawer full of 40k stuff I have

[copper siren]

The included brush has a 2 longer strand

What do

[plush swift]

its called a guide hair

you can cut it off, ignore it, or use it for fine detail

there isnt much of a point for to them for most people

[rare hornet]

Well you sort of are, although kill team has been very easy to tweak and me and some friends have made a home brew terminator team

[atomic rose]

@plush swift How would you go about mixing vibrant neon hot bubblegum pink? I experimentes with my reds and blues and purples and could not really get it quite right.

[plush swift]

like 90s bubblegum pink or brighter?

[atomic rose]

The cyberpunk neon pink. The pinkest pink imaginable.

[pastel escarp]

its just a 200 point system restriction right?

[reef wren]

afaik there are certain teams that are statted and everything else is off the table

[plush swift]

how long do you want it to last? The brightest is a fugitive, the longest lasting is

the brightest you can get a good 6 months of brightness out of it before it starts to fade in theory

it can be a lot less, it can be a lot more, its all about how you store them

[atomic rose]

Something like this

@plush swift I don't exactly need it now, since the mini I wanted it for is done now. I am just curious how to make it next time.

[plush swift]

like this?

[atomic rose]

Yeah, that would be it.

[plush swift]

thats PR122 quinacridone magenta with a mineral extender

Its fairly transparent keep in mind

[rare hornet]

Current kill team has set team rosters, there is no point limits

takes a bit of time to get your head around but I would say that the new system for kill team is better

[atomic rose]

Is there a way to get something similar with readily available paints?

[reef wren]

makes it a lot easier to just pick up and play, for sure

[plush swift]

yes, very easily actually. Look for either quinacridone magenta, quinacridone rose, or quinacridone pink. Ideally PR122, not PV19. But PV19 can work in a pinch

[rare hornet]

Also found a way to make it into a sort of XCOM themed version of players vs game style

stealing ideas from chaosgate such as the warpgate system etc

[acoustic hare]

Is there any other way to get the necron parts that are supposed to be painted with Tesseract glow a little bit darker ? Like for example dark green ? I tried Warpstone glow but I think i am am missing something for the centre part, to make it really glow.

[plush swift]

you'll need yellow, red, white, and a good base green

mix a small bit of red in with the green to darken it

work up from there

[plush swift]

Is it good as a primer?

[copper siren]

With a sharp knife

i managed to remove the spots that prevented the clean fit

they are a lot more flush now

[weary nexus]

Starting to get happy with bobs wings

[mystic turtle]

My counts as macharius is built

[prime scarab]

I was gonna buy myself a Mortarion

But I think I get more on my moneys worth if I bought terrain

[prime scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799379935692193802/1057511901757718548/image.png

[junior meadow]

that blue reminds me of the old legions of power toys

something like this

[grizzled jolt]

bullgryn wip

[naive umbra]

Just got my dice set today. Inaugural roll bodes well

That shield looks great!

[grizzled jolt]

Thank you

[ornate bramble]

Sweet kratos, I'm thinking of magnetizing mine

[hollow moon]

@neat quartz i see what’re you’re talking about. Also this ain’t mine, shout-out to another night lords fan enjoyer @weary nexus

[neat quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-winter-black-snow-rock-gif-15513202

[wooden pier]

Did I hear Night Lords?

[wooden pier]

Thats all i have ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[weary nexus]

I love them.

[wooden pier]

Thank you, you are realy good at painting.

[weary nexus]

Also. That model is supposed to be a 2 for one thing with this. My very own symbiotic daemon prince.

[muted token]

SONY PICTURES TRADEMARK SYMB-I-OTE

Sorry

[copper siren]

The garlic powder mini holder

[acoustic hare]

May try my Kikkomann Soy Sauce holder 😂

[plush swift]

Props to you, this is one of the smartest random house hold item handle ive seen

[fiery anvil]

My current army project, Captain has been done for a while, moving onto the 10 man assault squad next 🙂

[copper siren]

i was making some tomato sauce yesterday and found the shape of the spices are the same of the citadel mini holders

[copper siren]

Knights Of Blood?

[fiery anvil]

Angels Sanguine

[plush swift]

Well now we know where GW ripped off the shape from, I wonder if they will dmca them

[copper siren]

pay me in Astra Militarum kits

40k minis are a lot smaller than i had imagined them

my shakey hands are too affraid to start painting dawg

[muted token]

I mean my painting handle is literally a bottle of vape juice and some blue tac

Decent grip on the thing and it can have like a 40mm base fit perfectly

[copper siren]

the double tape is quite secure too

[muted token]

I get paranoid about the tape on the base giving me issues with paint adhesion after it's come off

No wait, brainfart ignore that statement

I see what you mean

[atomic rose]

I don't even use a painting handle. If it's really small (like heads), I just pin it with a paperclip.

[plush swift]

my paint handle is my adhd meds so I always know where they are

[plush swift]

they arent needed, they can help with getting a more stable grip or not putting your hand on the mini which will cause damage to the paint so they have benefits, but they can also cause problems sometimes

[rare hornet]

I just hold the model with my bare hands

[muted token]

That's genuinely really smart

[plush swift]

I also make sure to keep 5 bottles with only a few pills in each drawer just in case. I have to make sure my work flow is steady because well, I'm effectively a gig worker

[muted token]

Yeah I get it, it just seemed like a genuinely good idea to keep track of meds

[plush swift]

The only problem is when I use an empty bottle

which does happen from time to time

[muted token]

I can see that being an issue

Side note, I was thinking about printing some necrons and basically just masking off the guns and like, capes etc and spray painting them with this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rust-Oleum-Multi-Purpose-Premium-Spray-Concrete/dp/B075L8L7FK/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1IHN3DGOZQEHP&keywords=marble%2Beffect%2Bpaint&qid=1672232706&sprefix=marble%2Beffect%2Bpaint%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-7&th=1

D'you guys think it'd look crap or an interesting concept sort of, stone necrons

[plush swift]

that stuff is generally pretty gritty, so if its what youre after, then it should work

[muted token]

I'm imagining it'd give them a really simple to do "Made of stone" effect

[plush swift]

it might, i havent tried it before on anything but a canvas

I'd say worth a test but expect it to not work well

[novel quarry]

A bit of xenos to balance! Getting back to the hobby after a long pause

[pastel grotto]

THE BEHEMOOOOOTH

Nid time baby

[left egret]

Aw... was gonna thank Rosehip for recommending storm of iron but they seem to be no longer here. Need to find a new iron warrior buddy

Looking for 1 or more Iron Warrior battle buddy to be bitter with

Storm of Iron is great though. I am 2 hours in and I'm already bitter (hooked).

[plush swift]

@rare hornet

[rare hornet]

Well I’m sure you’re in for a surprise there

You imply I ever left

[plush swift]

Good to see you not actually leaving but evolving because you found the strength and certainty of steel

[rare hornet]

From iron cometh strength

[plush swift]

From Strength cometh will

[rare hornet]

From Will cometh Faith

[plush swift]

From Faith, cometh Honour.

[rare hornet]

From Honour cometh Iron

[plush swift]

This is the Unbreakable Litany, and may it forever be so.

I think thats how it ends

[rare hornet]

Pretty much

Or you loop it back to the start and really put off your opponent during a game

[plush swift]

I enjoy doing stuff like that honestly

annoys the shit out of my secondary play group since they are all loyalists

(also complain because im an iron hands fan)

[rare hornet]

Loyalists are so much fun to wind up at times

[left egret]

Ooh new name and art

[rare hornet]

Exactly

[left egret]

Did you commission this? because it looks awesome

[rare hornet]

Nope, just searched up iron warrior terminators

Admittedly this was also one

Mmm phosphex

[plush swift]

I should have done that

i drew mine

and now everything thinks its AI art when i drew it 7 years ago, makes use of a lot of genuine sepia

[left egret]

Feels bad man

[plush swift]

Ehh, knew it would happen. AI art has been a thing for almost a decade, it just got useable in the past year

[novel quarry]

Painted gargoyles?
Man, you're a hero !

[left egret]

Awesome but don't eat me

Buy yeah I was asking because my dnd group is going to give our DM a break and I'll be stepping in with dark heresy. Wanna do a custom Iron Warriors warpsmith/lord discordant as the BBEG @rare hornet

[rare hornet]

Ahh I see

You trying to work out his actual character and such?

[left egret]

yeah kinda.
I already have the look set in my mind. Slight doc oc vibes with 2 of the mechatendrils being like snakes that talk to him (small daemon engines)

but as i have been primarilly world eaters and just newly found my love for the bitter boys i am still trying to figure out the perosonality of an Iron Warrior... beyond brutally practical

[rare hornet]

A route you could go is base him of forrix from storm of Iron

[rare hornet]

Perhaps keep him cold and calm in voice to begin with, as his minions attack the players, but as they win then make a point of him becoming ever so slightly agitated in how his face looks

[echo frigate]

Some old stuff and new work

[rare hornet]

Then instead of fighting the players he turns an leaves instead. Forcing the players to come to him and perhaps have to deal with various more powerful minions etc

[left egret]

ok i like that idea

[forest zinc]

Whoever made number 11 in the cadia stands box is an asshole

[muted token]

I weirdly appreciate that there's a bunch of us that really like Iron warriors

It's usually kind of a niche faction

Also, I really appreciate that Darktide has some specials that kind of scream "WE ARE IRON WARRIORS" at me with the plate metal and hazard stripes

[plush swift]

You're gonna like my knights probably if thats the case, I just need free time

I like iron warriors for their aesthetics, I like iron hands because skitarii marines.

I really dont care about their lore that much

[rare hornet]

What's not to like about the legion that actually got stuff done while Horus was doing... whatever it was Horus was doing

[plush swift]

something something lorgar did nothing wrong or something

[rare hornet]

I think Lorgar was too busy running away from Corax

[plush swift]

I thought corax was too busy getting white paint wrong

[rare hornet]

Guy can multitask

[muted token]

Someone once said to me "Perturabo is essentially dorn if he was abused as a child"

And I'm just like

"You're not wrong but You're not right"

[left egret]

intimately satisfying the big four gods of chaos on a theoretical... maybe once on a practical level? Because thats just about the only thing horus got done

[muted token]

You misspelled "Being a disappointment to everyone around him"

[left egret]

finnally found the lorgar running from corax meme

[vagrant pier]

wait

where is rose

who i will ping about the new iron warrior show

[left egret]

....

[vagrant pier]

[left egret]

its up there though

[vagrant pier]

iron within

[left egret]

meme posted

[vagrant pier]

happy with some decent looking shows

[left egret]

Rose has evolved

and assumed the mantle of Warpsmith

[plush swift]

Rose is collix

[vagrant pier]

good knowledge

thanks

[sick dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966062531611344984/1057708295068069998/IMG_1248.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966062531611344984/1057708295391023234/IMG_1247.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966062531611344984/1057708295751729192/IMG_1246.jpg\

my very first mini

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966062531611344984/1057708295751729192/IMG_1246.jpg

[left egret]

good looking blueberry

[rare hornet]

@left egret Perhaps what you could do is have the two daemon engines be like an angel and devil combo? One always speaks reason and logic and is only somewhat murderous, the other is just murderous

[left egret]

yeah buddy thats the idea

Then he also has big one that acts as his mount and pet. Ironically named snuggles.... it has a barbed prehensile tail.

[rare hornet]

Perhaps base the design off that as a smaller maulerfield perhaps rather than the discolord's mount?

In the short stories I have made, I've always tried to make marines seem like people rather than 2D must kill enemy kind of characters

[left egret]

was thinking canine in looks so that would fit nicely

maybe feline

But yeah basically one of the ideas was that his guys has a crazy affinity for daemon engines and treats them as you would your pets. Like casually petting a venom crawler and things like that. Things that should get his arm ripped off but for some unnerving reason these monstosities would behave like affectionate pets around him.
And that should frighten the players

... of course i am not going to have them fight daemon engines 24/7 that would be ridiculous

[rare hornet]

best thing to do is have them fight 1 daemon engine during their first encounter with him

Set it down that what he commands is very powerful

[left egret]

yeah pretty much this

probably going to be a smaller homebrewed d.e. but it should get the point across nicely. He takes the big ones with him because he has other things that need demolishing, leaving behind what he thinks would be something that should be able deal with them fairly easily (in his opinion)

[rare hornet]

In the end he'll face the player himself after learning that he shouldn't underestimate them

A certain plasma pistol and thunder hammer combination would probably do the trick

And if you really want to pull the rug out from under the players feet, he has a micro teleporter to allow him to escape if he's low enough on health. Meaning he's been defeated, but for how long?

[left egret]

🤔 thats a solid ide

[rare hornet]

Keeps the idea of a villain who could turn up again in other campaigns?

[plush swift]

I've made some progress

I'm not happy with the eyes but I couldn't manage to mix the right shade of blue for them

I guess I'll just buy it and redo the eyes later

All in all it's looking good

I just gotta prime and paint the shoulderpads before gluing them on and then the model is finished :D

[rare hornet]

The ultimate move as an IW player is to offer your opponent the chance to surrender before either of you deploy and models, if they say yes (Even as a joke) you pack your army away and leave.

[plush swift]

That sounds like me

[plush swift]

the correct shade of blue actually comes from a green pigment weirdly enough.

[quartz light]

My little Valhallans I'm working on

[plush swift]

that blue is actually a green that's been heavily thinned down with titanium white

[plush swift]

Human beings see in the red blue and green spectrum so it's not entirely surprising. Sadly I don't really have a decent green base color to mix with my blue :(

[plush swift]

Humans see RGB, paints are CMYK, basic color theory is RYB, so it gets really confusing really quickly. The good greens only can be found in professional grade paints btw

Woah

That's a lot of letters

Yes

Color theory is a very complex subject that uses a ton of letters and is very awful

I sure hope nobody brings numbers into it too-

FUCK

Pigment indexes are letters and numbers

oh that would be a fun podcast episode to record... the theory of pigment evolution in the 40k universe

[knotty heron]

One of the many I have painted and made a home made base as well

[kindred pendant]

2 traitors and 1 loyalist ogryn for my friends in Carlisle

Left to right
Kreig Ogryn ( somewhat lore unfriendly ) khorne Ogryn and Tzeech Ogryn

[left egret]

Also. So my aunt am her family gave my Ghazghkull mag uruk thraka as a Christmas present because they didn't know what faction I play.

Wrong faction, but I am fine with it. The prophet of gork and mork is awesome

[sudden notch]

Bit poor picture but eh

[pastel escarp]

how do i start building an adeptus custodes army? what is good? what is not? any suggestions

[sudden notch]

Their army start pack is pretty well rounded what ive heard

If you are willng to invest

[vagrant pier]

combat patrol is nice if you dont find the battleforce

[plush swift]

a lot of the things outside of the patrol and battleforces boxes you need are all forge world, which can be a problem

[vagrant pier]

forge?

3d print for the printer god

recast for the recast throne

[pastel escarp]

where can i find good prints?

i have a resin printer

not good at modeling tho

[vagrant pier]

scratch 3dcults or telegram groups

its a pain but you can get nice stuff

[azure fulcrum]

Debating making an army of Renegade/Traitor Primaris but idk

A few irks I have is that they aren't incredibly versatile and don't really have too many options to make them look very traitory besides a paint job unless I figure out how to use Greenstuff to a competent level, and on the other hand their HQs look like they would be super difficult to strip of imperial iconography

What does appeal though is that they have smaller model counts which makes running them as a lore accurate traitor force more ideal because I could have a small force of elite super soldiers backed by the triator guard I'll be kitbashing after I get my hands on the Cadia Stands box my local GW put on hold for me

As far as their homebrew goes it's basically a mixup of the prejudice of the firstborn marines coupled with the Primaris strive to prove themselves as a shining example leading them to be a little too perfect and gaining the eye of a certain pink and purple clad God.

Probably doesn't help that despite being Blood Angel successors (officially) oddly their hair is more of a platinum colour than blonde and they have never seemed to fall to the black rage once, curious.

[cosmic mulch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/d1m92m/hello_kitty_chapter/

[urban harbor]

imagine being beat by that army in your local store

[median thistle]

its like a medal

I wanna see the Hello kitty chapter fight the angry marines

[urban harbor]

lol

[slow cairn]

All assembled. Just gotta paint em now. But I’m scared to

[rough edge]

Workin on knight rn

[vagrant pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972592683505836093/1057827251514777600/IMG_20221228_220651.jpg

[vagrant pier]

thought it was going to be worse

[plush swift]

I'm probably too proud of this

I feel like I went overboard with dirtying it up though

[shrewd loom]

WIP, not the best at painting, but trying to finish up some Praetorian Bullgryns. Also I feel like it's not bad for my first time painting after a few years

[rough edge]

Big lad is done and glued

[hard sand]

Brits when you call it soccer

[plush swift]

If youre going that far you might as well just print the full army at that point

[cerulean rose]

I think you did a great job

[plush swift]

Really?

[cerulean rose]

Yeah I love the blood splatters on the front looks sick as hell

The dirt and general grime just looks good

You painted a cool as hell mini

[plush swift]

Thank you. Funnily enough it's my first dreadnought too

[visual cliff]

Slaaneshy alpha legionares

[azure fulcrum]

Got my hands on my Cadia Stands box

Now I just need about 3 Blooded killteam kits and I'll be able to bring these brave men and women of the Imperium into the folds of chaos

Then it's to the bitzbarn for some misc necromunda stuff like mohawked heads and whatnot, a glam rock paint job and they will be proper followers of Our Lady in Pink

😈

[honest raft]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[boreal obsidian]

Long long time ago one of my first Minis

[sweet sinew]

Compressed air to the back of a brush makes pretty decent blood effects

[pastel grotto]

Choose your character

[left egret]

Whippy boy got tusks

[pastel grotto]

He's khornate what do you expect

[bold copper]

horus heresy jetbikes confirmed coming to plastic with this image

[brazen notch]

Return of the Dickbikes

[ornate bramble]

They haven't been on the FW site for over a week so it's been 100% confirmed

Also hopeful this is a diabolist for the word bearers

[idle inlet]

my dad works at games workshop and he said thats the new ratling

[ornate bramble]

5 ratlings standing on top of each other

[pastel grotto]

Odd looking ratling

[frigid minnow]

I forgot that I owned the blackstone fortress models and remembered how these guys kinda resemble the scabs in darktide. just something a little neat.

[novel quarry]

Gnl, I kinda wished we could have the weapon of the fanatic of Blackstone fortress for the zealot in Darktide

[brisk vapor]

very lovely

[cerulean rose]

Just painted my first mini I tried my best 💀💀💀

[gilded salmon]

wondering what people think of my kreiger

[reef wren]

he's . . . green?

looks like good color work, I'm curious what the story here is

[queen monolith]

Finished my Dark Angel Gravis man

[gilded salmon]

he was a homebrew test with brass armour and green fatigues, but i had the models since they first came out

[reef wren]

ah, I see

I like it, it's a nice combination

[gilded salmon]

thanks, took me quite a while to find what works, and doesent look cadian

[tawny topaz]

What’s a good strategy for mixing paints? Whenever I use my palette and try mixing I always have some issues of not enough or too much

By the time I finally get the color I want it dries after me using half of it

[plush swift]

I like the base. It looks like he's running through mud

[unreal chasm]

I can now produce 2 Kastellan robots every 3 hours.

[unreal chasm]

file cost me 8€ on sale. material costs for printing are below 1€ a model. Compared to GWs price of 62€ for 2, a Kastellan List finally becomes financially viable.

[muted token]

Dude I printed a daemon prince the other day, a cooler nurglier sculpt than GW

For like

£1.50

[reef wren]

what printer do you use?

[muted token]

Mono X 6k

I splurged on a good printer a while back

I feel like 6k is the sweet spot for detailed minis and price

Cost me liiiike

£800~

Which if you think about it, is probably less than one of the 4 2k armies I've printed for pennies since

[gilded salmon]

thank you, i just wish i had moss tuffs to look like their home planet

[plush swift]

idk how to do bases

I'm still working on my first ever mini

I think I'm just gonna leave the bases blank for now

[plush swift]

easiest way is to understand the properties of the pigments being used, unfortunately hobby paints are designed so you'll get frustrated and buy more of the range

[plush swift]

are you using a wet pallet?

[unreal chasm]

yeah, 3rd party sculpts are really picking up the pace, can't wait to build and paint this guy

[plush swift]

what file is that?

also the base

[unreal chasm]

Scavenger Detroitex Mk2 from Station Forge. Not sure about the base, I think it's also from Station Forge.

[plush swift]

I love the cloth thing on him

[tawny topaz]

Not really? I been trying but either way still not too well

[plush swift]

acrylics are very quick drying and hobby paints tend to use things like chalk and kaolin which speed drying times more

[unreal chasm]

Yeah, look a lot ruddier, ideal for a dark mechanicum or just "out in the field" look for your bots

[tawny topaz]

True, I couldnt even mix at one point

[plush swift]

I like the idea of an old combat bot left on his own too long and developing a sens of self and sentience

that's the vibe this guy gives me

[plush swift]

youre best options is to work quicker or get a sta-wet pallet, home made ones tend to be wonky

[unreal chasm]

with the buddhist prayer beads he gives me the vibe of a Robot that's being worshipped by a primitive culture as some sort of guardian spirit

[tawny topaz]

Yeaaa I was hoping to try and make once since I was told it’s easy to make

[plush swift]

that fit's into that vibe too, yeah

reminds me of that one doctor who episode with that vengeful cyborg cowboy who ended up becoming the protector of a town

[plush swift]

its a sponge, parchment paper, and a tub, the parchment paper needs to be a low or mid grade with a less waxy texture, problem is parchment is really strange in most countries and they sell wax paper as parchment

[tawny topaz]

I have most of that but I don’t have any parchment paper

[plush swift]

yeah thats a pretty crucial part

sta-wets are also dirt cheap and big enough so I just say get one of those

those fancy mini painter marketed ones dont do anything functionally different

[tawny topaz]

I found an army painter one that’s on sale for 16 bucks

[plush swift]

thats not the worst price

just make sure its the actual price and not just for the paper

the paper is around that price normally

[tawny topaz]

Nah it’s the entire box

[gilded salmon]

i just used the Games Workshop stirland mud, over the base with a black rim, this was after the model was put on

[muted token]

Literally 90% of people who have a patreon or are known ish on MMF make sculpts that are above and beyond GW

if Cults3d wasn't a horrific website in terms of servers

I'd use it more

[plush swift]

cults has gotten better over the years... its still bad though

[coarse parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052016437381824593/1057757595605159996/PXL_20221228_201818719.jpg I got me a mini, but not the normal kind

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052016437381824593/1057757587338182737/PXL_20221228_202229690.jpg

[mighty ferry]

First Khorn deamon 👌🏻

[fiery anvil]

3 more bikers and I’ll have my 2000 pts 😁

I look forward to the moment where losing one model will lose me the game 🤣

Easy to paint at least

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-i-love-gold-goldmember-gif-19735343

[reef wren]

my man

[fiery anvil]

One of the last imperial armies I’ve done for this edition, just have to wait for the full guard release and I’ll be good to go for them all 😁

[floral wind]

What is that blue mat? And where can I get one?

[fiery anvil]

It’s a cutting mat, helps when I use a scalpel on the mould lines, should be available at your local general hobby shop 🙂

Not GW though, I don’t think they have these

[floral wind]

nice one thank you :3

[fiery anvil]

No worries, always happy to help a fellow hobbyist 😁

[sudden notch]

Man my paint choice conondrum thickens

Too many choises to paint my units

[naive umbra]

I'm ready to begin my induction into the Society of Hidden Paint

[naive umbra]

I love Kairos's model. It's almost enough to bring me over to Chaos

[sudden notch]

This is frustrating. I cant decide at all what i want to paint my space marines as

First i thought blood ravens, then crimson fists, then white scars and now raven guard

<- going insane

[proper canopy]

Crimson Fists would be pretty sweet, not many play them.

If only Pedro got updated.

[sudden notch]

Yea but at the same time im fan of both raven chapters

[midnight siren]

What about Raptors?

[proper canopy]

Go deathwatch and just give them the shoulder pads.

[sudden notch]

My adhd goes overdrive

[naive umbra]

Cockpit is looking good after a prime coat. Now that the annoying fiddly bit is out of the way I'm actually excited to paint it

[cloud wing]

Got some gryph hounds and made them part of my guardsmen regiment.

[naive umbra]

A gryphon pouncing on you with a chainsword sounds terrifying

[cloud wing]

heh just wait till the techpriests whips up those chainclaw gauntlets for them

[grizzled jolt]

Bullgryn is almost done, I still do not know how to take decent pictures.

[azure fulcrum]

Why not homebrew chapter

But the previous suggestion for raptors is based

[novel quarry]

That a really good job, maybe a bit of edge highlights in the back of the mini? But this a really cool paint you did there!

[plush swift]

fuck yea

[pastel grotto]

Krogryn

Grey knights said it's time to clock out

[polar isle]

an og daemon prince ?

not seen those in a while

[pastel grotto]

You mean the only daemon prince

[polar isle]

Thats the one!

holds up ngl

[pastel grotto]

Fr

[brisk vapor]

It does

Very well

[muted token]

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Zb_q-YB86o?feature=share

FYI

Anyone who's seen this video

Do not under any circumstances remove supports with a heat gun unless you literally want cancer

Especially if you're going to do it without a mask or a ventilator

and just in some home office

The hot water thing is probably fine

Just DO NOT EVAPORATE WET RESIN AT YOURSELF

YOU WILL LITERALLY GET CANCER AND DIE

(Sorry I'm really pissed off by this guy)

I can just see people seeing this video and it's all

And that was how they all died

[plush swift]

https://tenor.com/view/die-hard-bruce-willis-shoot-shooting-gun-gif-5000702

thanks for the advice

👍

[errant fulcrum]

Does anyone have any tips for airbrushes?

I got one recently and don’t want to fuck up too badly

[muted token]

Wear a ventilator and gloves (Latex/Vinyl/etc)

Spray from like, 20cm away

Well, not 20 but enough that you're not getting splotches of paints

Before spraying at a model spray on some tissue or something to make sure the flow is appropriate

[errant fulcrum]

Gotcha thanks

[muted token]

I'd recommend using it largely to prime miniatures and lay down large base coats of colours initially

So you can get used to how it works, what PSI you want, how much you need to thin paints

[brisk vapor]

and first it's better to overthin than not thin enough because clogging your airbrush is a pain

[muted token]

Oh god yes, If your paint is too thin you can just do more than one coat

if it's too thick you could honestly risk breaking your airbrush

I've killed like 1-2 nozzles with paint that I just could not clear

[brisk vapor]

one of those ultrasonic cleaners might fix that but they're costy

[muted token]

I just bought a new nozzle

Only cheap ones so I don't really mind if they break

[errant fulcrum]

Thanks for the advice y’all

[muted token]

's fine, this is probably one of the less "Full of arsehole" channels on this discord

We chill here, we like models

[errant fulcrum]

I’ve posted a couple on here

[plush swift]

Youtube was a mistake

[muted token]

Youtube is fine

This guy is trying to kill people

and the comments are praising him

HE'S LITERALLY GOING TO OXIDIZE UNCURED RESIN AND GET CANCER

I'm super mad about this

[plush swift]

Yeah you realize how many mini painting youtubers also do this?

[muted token]

But

What

No

Why

[plush swift]

I had to deal with one student who poisoned themselve over midwintersminis advice with dirty downs

[muted token]

Oh for

Why can't we have people who don't try and kill their audiences in our community

[plush swift]

dirty downs rust is incredibly toxic to the point the fumes can cause long term health damage

its main ingredient is xylene

[muted token]

Wait really?

Xylene?

[plush swift]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996004/

[muted token]

Isn't xylene the one that basically turns off your CNS

If you inhale the vapors too much

[plush swift]

yes

[muted token]

Let's put it in miniature paint

[plush swift]

Oh vallejo flow improver is almost pure 2-butoxy-ethonal

which is another incredibly bad thing

[muted token]

That's kinda why I just use water and water based acrylics to airbrush

I KNOW WATER

[plush swift]

There is a reason why I'm so adamant about safety and why I hate youtubers

[muted token]

WON'T GIVE ME TURBO CANCER

[plush swift]

waterbased acrylics arent always safe

[muted token]

They're safe enough that a ventilator will stop them causing any real damage

As far as I'm aware, I might just be giving myself paint aids or something

[plush swift]

To some extent yes

Natural pigments are where you have to worry, like yellow ochres I legally have to put a lead warning on if I sell the pigment

I dont in a paint

its made from crush earth after all

[muted token]

That seems like a thing you should still have to go "Yo lead based pigments in this paint"

[plush swift]

Paint has no real legal regulation

[muted token]

Pretty sure it does here (UK)

[plush swift]

the only thing I have to care about is borax and c:mit/mit concentrations for EU sale

tattoo ink, thats another story

thats heavily regulated

[muted token]

Well yeah it goes in people

[plush swift]

paint, way less regulation

I still sell manganese blue in europe, and people think its banned

manganese blue just isnt being produced anymore because of reasons, mostly public outcry

I mean they were producing mummy brown until 1960 and they only stopped because the public found out it was made with human corpses after all, so a toxic pigment wont stop a company

[rapid willow]

First time painting mini, quite a large mini tho tbf

[rapid willow]

wow photos dont scale well from phone to pc 😅

[limber widget]

who is hype for new 40k models coming

[bold copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uewA-r_tQck neat

[shut flame]

good job! throw some grout on that base and that's definitely a model to be proud of :)

[rapid willow]

Thanks, i have a mate whose gonna show me how to wash and do bases effectivley. i am hype to paint more stuffs

[shut flame]

I think the best advice that I wish I could have told myself when I started, don't get caught up on one model do your best to what looks best to you at the time then move on. You'll never improve just pushing around the same paint on one model all day

[rapid willow]

Yes! that why im leeting him show me with this one, and then ive got Iron Golem warcry warband coming next week! I wanted to try washing myself but i think id ruin it with too much crap

[shut flame]

litty, what kind of washes are you using?

[limber widget]

It's basically an follow from the 9th edition trailer

[atomic rose]

I actualy have to disagree with this. You can definitely improve by "pushing around the same paint on one model", as long as you do it deliberately and intentionaly. If you want to practice a technique, you can definitely do it by repeating it on the same model over and over, until you build a muscles memory and skill.

[rapid willow]

He reccomended Leather brown wash to make the white look more aged and to make some edgeing, whatever that means 😅

heh i learned form drawing that when i try to add more to a already finished drawing i ruined it so im happy

Im sure the repation definetley helps, i was told to wash all the paint off asap if i wasnt happy with it at anypoint

[atomic rose]

That is not needed. As long as you thin your paints correctly, the layers will be thin enough that you do not need to wash it off and just paint over it again.

[limber widget]

I had the feeling that pariah nexus was becoming a series the female guardmen from the pariah. Nexus looked the same as in the 9th edition trailer of 40k

[shut flame]

suppose that's fair, I guess it's more up to what you're you're looking te get out of the hobby. personally I usually have a goal of painting a bunch of stuff then spend all day painting like one very small dude lol

[limber widget]

Same with the sister of battle

[shut flame]

in what context? like not happy with a whole models paintjob?

[atomic rose]

It very much depends on the mindset you go into it with. If your goal is "I want to have a bunch of painted dudes to fight Jimmy with his painted dudes," you are mostly after speed and convenience, rather than actual painting skills. But if you are trying to improve as a painter, deliberate research, focused experimentation and intentionality are the key.

[rapid willow]

Yeah, i was told it wouldnt look good at the start but if it still looks bad after 3 different colours or a certain amount of time i should probably start again

im happy the brass saved the model for me i wasnt sure till i added it

[finite rain]

mini on picture always looks terrible

[shut flame]

I always have that moment of a model looking like trash till things start coming together

[finite rain]

or at least, shows a way more detailed view of what ur paintjob looks like for real

the ogryn on top is 🫡

[rapid willow]

lmao, my dad picked it up and i told it to hold it at arms length so it would look better

[atomic rose]

I find that to be a benefit actualy. It makes it easier to analyze mistakes I've made and what I need to improved in the next one.

[finite rain]

definetly

but i can be really discouraging

for a beginner

i went from this:

to this:

in a year

so just dont get demotivated by pictures 🙂

[atomic rose]

That is true, but if they let it discourage them, they went into it expecting to be good immediately. Which is...naive at best. 🙂

[rapid willow]

i hope to make that progress

I agree, i googled hellbrute after i finished and im glad i waited till the end

[finite rain]

jajaja

[shut flame]

lol

[atomic rose]

Just keep at it. It takes time to get good at something. Research, practice and keep at it. You'll find, that things that took you days only take few hours now.

[finite rain]

also reaally good tip is to not compare urself to other mini painters, always compare yourself with - yourself from the past 😉

[shut flame]

the good old "pull up 'eavy metal model" then get bummed out

[finite rain]

Duncan Rhodes from the start

yesyes

XD

[atomic rose]

This is my first

[rapid willow]

godly

[atomic rose]

This is my most recent

[rapid willow]

how long did that take

[atomic rose]

~3 years

[finite rain]

airbrush on the second?

[rapid willow]

3 years for a singel dreadnaught?!

[atomic rose]

No, that dread took me like a month. 😄 I am 3 years in a hobby.

[atomic rose]

Nope. Just good ol'glazing.

[finite rain]

aint nobody gottta time for that XD

[atomic rose]

That entire mini took like 5 hours from start to finish.

And I had to do the skin twice. 😅

[finite rain]

yeah, i really suck at thinning down basecoats with brush,

so i do base coat and first highlight now with airbrush, then just a little glazing and edge

i am more a wargamer then a painter, but i kinda like to have whole army on a fairly decent standard

[shut flame]

airbrush really do be a timesaver

[finite rain]

cant put too much time on my 200 guardsmen xD

[shut flame]

that's a good bit

[rapid willow]

dropper bottles are sick

[shut flame]

yeah, pots are horrendous personally

[rapid willow]

Do you want to see the actual first model i "painted"

[shut flame]

yes

man I gotta go find mine now lol

[rapid willow]

i am okay with the disrepect i deserve for this monstrosity

14 year old me thinking "yeah i wanna paint this" with absolutley no patientce

[shut flame]

well you obviously learned from it, so I'ts not a monstrosity but an important stepping stone on your hobby adventure

[rapid willow]

Kind words

[shut flame]

here's my first since we're sharing

[rapid willow]

Ratong

DUde the bases on all your models rly make them look niffty asf

[shut flame]

hmm?

the white base is not intentional I never based this guy lol

[rapid willow]

?? thats not based?

[shut flame]

as in, grout or flock

something along those lines

maybe not eh correct phrasing

the*

[rapid willow]

painted atleast, adds to the model alot

[shut flame]

well happy accidents then lol

[atomic rose]

I sometimes go heavy on the base. Especialy when it's "nature" themed.

[shut flame]

very nice!

[rapid willow]

do you do this for a living?

you should

[atomic rose]

No. I don't and I couldn't. 😅 I am nowhere near good enough and way too lazy.

But I appreciate the compliment.

[rapid willow]

Im No WHeRe neAR gOOoD enIOuGH

[shut flame]

man you lined up that foliage in such a nice way, really draws the eye up the model

[rapid willow]

ive bought minis pre painted that look a fraction as good as that

[shut flame]

did you make the palm tree?

[atomic rose]

Lol no. I sometimes visit local second hand shops and look for old toys to repurpose. The palm tree was a part of the rubber dino set, that I just chopped down to size.

[shut flame]

nice, you gave it a great glow up

[shut flame]

nice! really like the mottled look on the horse

[atomic rose]

Everything on that base is handmade. Would not recommend spinning your own miniature barbed wire. It sucked.

[shut flame]

yikes lol, turned out looking good tho

is there a mine or something under the wire?

[atomic rose]

That is some plastic doodat I found whoknowswhere whoknowswhen. I tend to collect weirdly shaped stuff to use for my bases. I have no idea what it was, where I got it and what the purpose is, it just looked like a piece of random clutter. 😅

[rapid willow]

Do you make diarahmas?

[atomic rose]

No, never have.

[rapid willow]

your potential

consider it, youd be amazing at it

[atomic rose]

Nah. That is too much effort and too much time. 😅

[shut flame]

has a bouncing betty look to it

[atomic rose]

I did it put it there to be a random piece of debris or a landmine or whatever. There is one of those anti tank/cavalry hedhehogs thingies as well tangled in the wire as well. And a grass tuft on fire.

[brazen nexus]

It begins

[atomic rose]

Good luck. Cawl is an awful kit to put together and paint. 😅

[brazen nexus]

Oh yeah

Those servo skulls dangling off his back suck

[shut flame]

ooo yeah, definetly a piece that makes the mind run rampant with stories and the like

[shut flame]

I love my beep boops but man all those flimsy little wires and shit

[atomic rose]

The thing I hated the most was the cables that run below the robes - that piece just never fit snuggly enough for me to be comforable glueing it. And then all the goddamn arms

[plush swift]

One thing you learn in art theory and its very important to keep in mind. There is no good art, good requires an opinion and a discussion of philosophy to define. There are only varying degrees of bad

[atomic rose]

I definitely consider myself bad. 😅

[shut flame]

doesn't everyone tho?

[plush swift]

No

[shut flame]

ah damn

[rapid willow]

Technically i guess? Still if i hate ill probs get rid of it lmao

Eye of the beholder ect

[atomic rose]

It's the smash brothers conundrum all over again. You beat your friends, maybe some colleagues and think "huh, I might be good at smash brothers." And then you go online and you immediately think "Oh, I am not good at smash brothers. I am actualy very bad at smash brothers. I might be the worst at smash brothers." 😅

[shut flame]

man fighting games have that feeling so bad

[rapid willow]

for honor makes me feel like that

[atomic rose]

It's the same with minis.

[plush swift]

a lot of mini painters think they are good because everyone tells them they are, but in terms of skills its a lot of untrained, education only following the current zeitgeist, etc people saying something looks good when they are only judging on A) paint thinness B) colors C) flashiness

Its why i never comment on peoples work unless they ask me to, because I'm one of the idiots who got a doctorate in art. Rather not ruin the journey as thats the most important thing for art

[neat quartz]

Just finished up my first ever painting of minis

[shut flame]

good job! very clean, like the variation of blues on the shields

[rapid willow]

Storm cast, very sexy

[shut flame]

fantasy space marines do be hittin tho

[atomic rose]

I do like me some sigmarines.

[neat quartz]

I was feeling far too anxious to start painting my Ad Mech units without any painting experience

So i spent all day just practicing on these two boys

It was a lot more fiddly than i imagined it would be

[plush swift]

you can always strip the paint off later

[atomic rose]

Just be carefull with what you strip them. Destroyed my first Gotrek that way 😅

[plush swift]

most of the practice comes from learning muscle memory, which is why online guides tend to be not so great

[neat quartz]

Yeah i noticed i have a lot more brush control now vs. this morning when i started

[shut flame]

seems like a day spent well, you learned and have some awesome looking models :)

[plush swift]

its quick to learn, hard to master. i'm at over 30,000 hours and I still have issues doing some things

still cant draw faces too well, but then again I was never an impressionist

always experimental

[shut flame]

human faces terrify me

[atomic rose]

Faces suck. Every little mistake makes them look wrong.

[shut flame]

that's why I have skelly bois and ad mech lol

[plush swift]

They arent hard persay, skin tones are really easy to learn to mix too

faces just require perspective training, which I have never needed to do since I mostly do experimental and abstract

[atomic rose]

They are difficult, because our brain is hardwired to look at them and then analyze and interpret them. Meaning that every little thing wrong makes them look weird. Maybe the pupils are not aligned exactly. Or the whites are too thick and circular. And milions of other little things...

I swear my Gotrek looks he's getting kicked in the balls, rather than standing heroicly.

[rapid willow]

Helmets

always

[plush swift]

Just call it avant-garde

[shut flame]

this

[atomic rose]

A lot of named characters do not come with helmet option. 😛

[plush swift]

want to know how I paint eyes?

[shut flame]

not having helmets on characters makes me upset, maybe it's the military nerd in me

[plush swift]

makes me upset too

but I also work for a lot of military museums

[shut flame]

like I get it

[plush swift]

joys of freelance art conservation, you get to work anywhere

unfortunately the pay sucks

[compact umbra]

Oh my fucking god are we ever going to get a KT box that doenst have a human faction in it

[naive umbra]

I thought art conservation was well paid. But I probably just got that impression from watching too many Baumgartner Restoration vids on YT. Guessing he's at the top of the game with really wealthy clients restoring very rare works.

[compact umbra]

The current theory is the next kt box is arbities and Drukahri

[plush swift]

Thats restoration and he's umm.... he's a problematic case

a lot of backroom stuff goes on that people dont know about

Because of how large that company is, he can control smaller companies into not existing anymore and the quality of his work has come into question over the years too

The company I work(contractor) for is small, and they make around 25mil in sales not profit, and we get thrashed by the large ones all the time, but we also make the products they use so... we have our own niche

[hazy meadow]

Finally finished building my first army

[vague topaz]

Started painting my Red Corsairs Legionaries Kill Team. After 10 years I'm finally back to painting models! How am I doing so far?

[nocturne crypt]

not a mini but still look what big boy arrived just now!!

[plush swift]

My first ‘kit bash’ - cut the spare helmet off the gear for the dude on the right tonuse on the dude on the left

Because helmets are cooler

[plush swift]

Helmets are way cooler
(And just make sense)

[lean snow]

I have a crisp gold from using a dark bronze undercoat, a light layer of el dorado gold on top, with a brownwash finish. Camera doesn't do it justice but the chest and shoulders really give off a nice rich shimmer when I rotate the model in the light

[fringe ember]

Can I just say, I absolutely hate what phone cameras do to models

Like they look so much better in person, 100% of the time

[lean snow]

Especially when you're tryin to take a group photo of yer dudes and half of them are blurry

[fringe ember]

I’ve actually stopped playing the tabletop and now have started painting minis for fun

Starting small, but I want to work my way up to the Lord Discordant model that’s been taunting me in the box

[lean snow]

Right now me and my buds are just painting models and MIGHT play one day

I dont even know the rules to the game I just like dark angels

[hazy meadow]

What is the appeal to tzeentch? All I know about him is he can see all futures but can’t tell which will pass and how everything “is and isn’t”

I’ll have to watch a tzeentch specific lore video, most lore videos will kind of skim over him

That I’ve seen anyways

[plush swift]

Decorated some khorne dudes with poxwalker skulls to mess with my nurgle loving boyfriend

He has since said he's gonna use bloodletter skulls on his models now

[brazen nexus]

does this mf really need 6 arms?

[vagrant pier]

god of magic and change

everything is according to his plan but he hates how things are determined so he always change stuff

gives missions to his minions to search for knowledge or magic artifacts

but if everythings goes with his plan he gets bored

so he helps his enemies too , just to have amusement

tzeentch related minis are cool + heavy focused on arcane and burning people souls

[hazy meadow]

yea fateweaver is sick

[vagrant pier]

and twisting peoples flesh and creating horrors beyond mankind

nah thats just tzeentc

fateweaver is different

he can see future and past but he is blind from the present

the major flaw

[hazy meadow]

meant his model, and yea I did read a little about it but didn't know they created horrors and such

[vagrant pier]

like on AoS

tzeentch wants to change the entire realm

and twist people bodies creating horrors beyond compreension

[hazy meadow]

Damn, is he similar in 40k? Always assumed they were the calm boys who just wanted knowledge etc

[vagrant pier]

knowledge is one of the objetives

i need to grab some codex to check current tzeentch status on 40k

i bought the last tzeentch battletome because it sucks to find AoS lore

[hazy meadow]

Im slowly getting into AoS myself, I heard it was bad lore wise so I always shied away, but I recently got a skaven box and a sylvaneth box because they look fun to paint and i loved skaven in Vermintide 2 so ill have to get started on my 2+ tough video grind

[vagrant pier]

the issue with AoS lore

everything is too epic

every conflict is going to end the world and people that can kill gods

im waiting for my box to have tzeentch on 40k too

because the thousand sons turned to be my favorite legion after i read about then

[muted token]

Deepkin are pretty awesome models wise

Fish and fish people

[azure fulcrum]

The Games Workshop employee looking on in horror as I buy my 34th bottle of leadbelcher knowing that I am going to drink it in front of him.

[brazen nexus]

sippy sippy

[elfin lake]

Hey guard players, anyone know if the new squad coming out is a replacement of the current kit or in addition?

[muted token]

Probably a replacement

Knowing G Dubbs

But don't quote me on that one

[barren vessel]

Desert Raptors KT so far. idfk why they look so dusty in the photo but they dont look like that to me in person.

[muted token]

Skin too pink

For Kratogryn

[graceful ledge]

Painted these guys today idk I need to learn how to highlight

[muted token]

They're necrons, They look perfectly good enough for tabletop

They're metal coloured and have guns and energy different colours

More than I expect from the average necron player if I'm being honest

[azure fulcrum]

Gonna be getting my hands on the new Daemon Prince model, but need some good slave models to decorate the base with since they are gonna be Slaaneshi

Anyone know of any companies that would make models fit for that purpose? I certainly am not using the old Dark Eldar slave models. Ugly.

[edgy jackal]

Depends on your location, some companies are based in the US, some in europe, shipping would play a big role in price.

Artel W has a warehouse in the us

Kromlech and greenstuffworld are eu based, but I doubt they have what you want

[neat quartz]

depending on how Slaaneshi you are going, a cursory google search lead me to find this ebay vendor https://www.ebay.com/str/manufakturaminiatures?_trksid=p2047675.m145687.l149267
If too lewd for you, this might be a good kit? https://www.ragingheroes.com/products/senshyrha-le-f?srsltid=AeTuncqBve3w7uW5ucd6M-4YIejMO8YBxCeW8lqtJwiTvaVE1pjx5Zf4Ye0&logged_in_customer_id=&lang=ru

[lilac moth]

I would try scouring etsy first.

[worldly pawn]

should i get the citadel paint set or are there better alternatives?

[lilac moth]

Citadel and vallejo game color have served me well so far

[edgy jackal]

It depends on accessibility. I can't buy vallejo, AK, Army painter, etc, as easily in a local store, as I can with Citadel paints. Citadel also has a large content library by duncan rhodes and citadel themselves on how to paint with their line, but is also quite pricey per ml.

[azure fulcrum]

did duncan end up leaving GW?

[plush swift]

Yes, he has his own painting channel now, "Duncan Painting Academy" or something like that
Also, from what I gathered, generally Citadel metallic paints tend to be better but for the other "normal" paints Vallejo should be fine

I bought a big Army Painter set, but I have to say I was quite disappointed. Their paints aren't that good at applying pigments evenly (generally I need three or four coats to have a nice uniform color), so thinning the pain with water makes it even worse

[lilac moth]

My experience with vallejo ultramarine blue was far superior to that of citadel mcragge blue

Also dropper bottles > pots any day of the week

[edgy jackal]

I would agree with you, except for shade and contrast paints

[rapid willow]

Do y'all think it's worth spraying and painting individual models?

Pieces*

[atomic rose]

What do you mean by that?

[lilac moth]

Depends on the piece really.

[rapid willow]

Just got my iron golems and I wanna ge them right, do I'm debating taking the extra time to paint the individual model pieces before I assemble them

[lilac moth]

assemble first

[fringe ember]

Depends really, there are some models where it’s downright impossible to paint them fully if you assemble them first

[atomic rose]

It really depends on a lot of things. Like what color primer you are using, the sculpt itself and what standard you want them painted to.

[rapid willow]

Warcry table top do rly wanna flex to friends

[atomic rose]

With white and gray primers, leaving anything unpainted is an issue, because it will stick out like a sore thumb. With blacks, it's fine to leave hard to reach ares unpainted, it will just look like a deep shadow. Of course, that is not acceptable, if you are painting to high standard, so you migh want to leave it unassembled even with black primer.

I generaly dry fit my minis first and try to identify problematic areas that are covered before glueing them together. Anything that could cause issues I leave unassembled. You migh also want to divide large minis into smaller chunks - especialy usefull for minis with wings for example, because those get in a way all the time.

[rapid willow]

Okai, there are alot of shields and flails that wrap around their heads so I'll do separate, cheers

Love me black

I'll do the arms separate as well cuz that just feels rough when they're on the body

[lilac moth]

Also if you are really trying to flex and especially if there are multiple combinations of weapons/arms, just magnetize that shit

So tempted to go and bulk buy magnets and get rid of the push to fit connections on my kill team in to dark terrain and just magnetize every single attachment point

[edgy jackal]

I order mine from supermagnete, pretty reliable so far (in europe) and they throw in extra magnets each time for some reason.

[sudden notch]

How rare are fallen armies

[azure fulcrum]

I imagine quite rare

[sudden notch]

I think their unit list includes 5 units

After than chaos and standard sm filler

[rapid willow]

Magnets?

[plush swift]

Buy student grade fluid acrylic, you get way more, better quality, way cheaper. Hobby paints are the exact same grade but have worse complex pigment mixtures making them very hard to mix and get colors you want

60ml bottles are like $2 normally of them

[plush swift]

you're supposed to remove a bunch of the medium at the top of the bottle before shaking according to army painter

(army painter is still bad)

[neat quartz]

Wait really?

[finite rain]

my first cadian

[plush swift]

yes, they are student grade, they replace pigmentation with kaolin and chalk for opacity and matte finish

vibrant opaque reds dont really exist naturally unless you want something like cadmium and hobby paints wont use pyrolle since thats too expensive

[plush swift]

I know, that's what I do

still annoying

great for terrain painting tho, since it's cheaper

[neat quartz]

Got any names to throw my way, like brands?

[rapid willow]

Now paint 100 more

Vallejo is a nice brand I've been using

Dropper bottles hmmm

[pastel grotto]

Fellas

Should I get a second baneblade

[plush swift]

just buy craft paint at that point, I use craft paint for most of my terrain, and I'm the one here with tubes of oils that cost $15,000+. I really cant tell a huge difference on the terrain honestly

[plush swift]

In the US? Dickblick store brand is fine,

[plush swift]

no. get a fourth baneblade

[pastel grotto]

I don't have 3

I have 1

[plush swift]

I know

thats why you buy 3 more

[pastel grotto]

What variant

I have a doomhammer

[plush swift]

magnetize it so they are all of the above

[pastel grotto]

I refuse to magnetise

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-average-enjoyer-man-cool-very-cool-gif-26032891

[plush swift]

well then you need 20 more baneblades

[pastel grotto]

If I wanted a different variant, I'd buy it.

Hence why I am buying a different variant

[plush swift]

I'm the type that would rather buy 4 so i can field 4 of what ever is good for the meta

[pastel grotto]

"meta"

Sickening

Good day sir

[plush swift]

My store is tournament play only

not wasting $100 to play a game and not come out with something

[normal epoch]

ive never played in a store, so all my plastic gets used even if its just agreeing on rules for funsies like trading off chainsword for two ranged bolter shots and only being able to use fists for mele on one of my primaris. we named him sgt. Fuckswords. he wilol never see a tournament but my friends love him

[rough edge]

Jorge, The Knight

[rapid willow]

Big big boy, I want him

2quid

Final offer

A adversery for my hellbrute

[plush swift]

yeah my old group did stuff like that until I consistently was board wiping turn one, At one point they said warlord titans were 500 points, forgetting I had 5 of them because they were trying to wipe me off the board

i stopped talking to them after they suggested that spacemarines all had 50 wounds as its lore accurate

[normal epoch]

jesus

[plush swift]

spacemarines are the only faction I didnt have

[normal epoch]

yeah we arent that extreme

[plush swift]

It started out as 2 boltors in place of a chainsword and pistol

[normal epoch]

loving this paint scheme

[plush swift]

but Im a knights player

so i ruin fun for players who dont know rules

[normal epoch]

dude knights look so fun to play

[rapid willow]

I

[plush swift]

I like them because I hate deployment

[rapid willow]

Dude my assault terminators got fucked by knights

And I've had a passion

[normal epoch]

ive got a buddy with a broken 3d printed titan im buying from him. gonna turn it into wreckage terrain

[rapid willow]

I need a 3d printer, diarammahs would be nice to start making

[rapid willow]

And thank you but it's mostly lighting to hide the horrid mistakes I made on the left lmao

[pastel grotto]

THE BOSNIAN KNIGHT

[rough edge]

THE BOSNIAN KNIGHT

I must paint him in the Bosnian colors

[rough edge]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-the-bosnian-knight-bosnia-knight-gif-27282235

@pastel grotto

[pastel grotto]

THE BOSNIAN KNIGHT

Or is he a warden knight?

We may never know

[last prawn]

I made a Veteran Sharpshooter out of the new Cadians.

[brisk vapor]

Next up on the rust train

[void tide]

Mario Kart Double Dash lookin’ ass

[candid timber]

that look sick

[deft fable]

First Time painting !

Contrast paint looks so punishable ... 😔

Is it possible to save misses ?

Maybe with a small layer of white scar ?

[hazy meadow]

@deft fable compared to yours, my first model looked insanely blotchy with contrasts

Since then I’ve tried wiping a good portion of it off of my brush before painting on but even then I think I prefer base paints and self highlighting

The one I’m doing now is a tad less blotchy I think but I still think base paints are less “punishable”

Rather I feel like I can do more with them and it still look cleaner

I’m going to go back over these with my death guard green when it comes in if that’s possible, militarum didn’t turn out great imo

[deft fable]

yeah base paint seems thicker and permissive

[hard sand]

Experimenting with a oxidizing rust effect paint and i went over board with it lol

It's very cool though, applies brown, turns orange in some areas within a couple seconds

[quiet stone]

nurgle gives his grossest paints to his plaguiest marines

[bold robin]

Helmet is not big enough

[hazy meadow]

That’s pretty cool. I always just use a touch of the nihi whatever oxide, how did you manage that?

[hard sand]

its called Dirty Down Rust

bought it with a set of dry brushes

Still experimenting with it tbh

I like using typhus corrosion and then drybrushing over it to make my rust normally

[azure fulcrum]

someone mentions using Dirty Down Rust

Corpse_Starch is typing...

[plush swift]

you know me too well

[plush swift]

be careful with that, it can cause your central nervous system to shut down, its VERY toxic

Dirty down mentions this in their MSDS, but no hobby company that sells it does

[hard sand]

Yeah it's not good to use in enclosed spaces

[azure fulcrum]

i drink at least a 350ml can of dirty down rust every morning

[atomic rose]

Builds up character

[white shore]

Hey guys I’m new to miniatures, where do I start and what do I purchase ?

[hard sand]

this is probably the worst place to start asking tbh lmao

[white shore]

Hahahah sheesh

Thought it would be the better

[atomic rose]

Mandatory: light, miniature, hobby knife, clippers, glue, brush, paint, miniature
Optional: wet palette, pinvice, paint handle and like milion other things

[hard sand]

step 1 prob be to find out if you have any gamestores near you that you can buy miniatures from

[atomic rose]

Above all of that: sufficient disposable income. It's not the most expensive hobby in the world, but it is up there.

[white shore]

Does anyone paint Lord of the rings miniatures?

[atomic rose]

I am sure some people do, but I am yet to see one here.

[white shore]

Would this be a good place to start?

[hazy meadow]

Personally I bought a Christmas box from games workshop. They can still be found on eBay for usually cheaper actually if the one you want is out of stock.

I got most of my tools from Amazon as citadel ones are quite pricey

[atomic rose]

No. Not really. Avoid games workshop tools. They are overpriced pieces of shit.

[white shore]

Link ?

[hazy meadow]

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-40-000?N=2562756967+3434949969&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AUS_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_US_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1672504800000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1672504800000]

This is where the christmas boxes are, although the best ones are sold out now. The one I bought on ebay raised in price to about 250 now so not sure its worth anymore unless it captivates you

I would say first and foremost find out which faction you like the most and look the coolest to you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCGKPRiJp84&t=668s&ab_channel=Bricky

Bit of a long watch but you can skip over the factions that look dumb to you

[limber widget]

mostly space marines are stater friendly

[white shore]

Are their any boxes that come as like a “starter kit” per say with paints and brushes ?

[limber widget]

i wil look quick

give me a sec

mostly just a tacital squad like these

and for paint it doesnt mastter

[white shore]

In theory you can just change the colour to different factions ?

[limber widget]

yea

if you want a purple or blu marines go for it

each space marine legion has a single color

[white shore]

I legit just wanna build like a big display case with heaps of minis in them, they’re so dope

[limber widget]

like imperal fist are like mostly yellow and blood ravens and blood angels are red

and white scars are white

[white shore]

Where did you find this ?

[limber widget]

mostly games workshop

do you have an local games workshop where you live ?

[white shore]

Yeah but it’s in the city

[limber widget]

good

go there and look for it if it is not there you can always look online on their site

[white shore]

How do I find colours that match for unpainted minis ? And do I need to purchase a tool and glue to stick the together ?

[limber widget]

they have it in their stores

[atomic rose]

Don't fall under the illusion you need to buy everything from GW. They like the abuse the fact they have borderline monopoly on the hobby and stretch the price.

[limber widget]

yea

they can be prety pricey

[white shore]

Yeah that’s why i thought I’d message here, cos they’ll probably try scam me as a new player

[limber widget]

i mostly buy 1 model every long whike

and dont waste money on horde factions

like tryanids orks and imperal guard

[atomic rose]

They definitely will. With the minis, you do not have much choice. There are other companies making them but you may run into problems if you want to play. Everything else you are better off buying elsewhere tho.

[white shore]

Where would you recommend buying the paint and tools for cheaper ?

[white shore]

What’s wrong with horde factions ?

[hazy meadow]

This is what I got on amazon, you can probably find even cheaper somewhere else

[limber widget]

they cost alot of money

[atomic rose]

Fot tools, look for a modelers store. For people building planes and stuff. They'll have everything.

[limber widget]

and you need also alot of them

for a meduim army

[white shore]

I see

[lethal ridge]

Horde factions are totally fine... as long as you're smart. Buy used from ebay

[limber widget]

yea

like that

not gw

[lethal ridge]

Just never pay full GW sticker price

its common knowledge that the cost to print the box is more than the actual cost of the miniatures

the plastic alone is only worth pennies

You're paying to offset employee salaries, art team, design, manufacturing costs, etc

and most importantly.... profits for shareholders c:

[limber widget]

ah yes plastic crack

[atomic rose]

For paints...eeehh, ask @plush swift . I like vallejo. The range is vast, quality consistent, price lower and the dropper bottles are a nice bonus. But I am not the one with paint degree here. 😅

[lethal ridge]

Army Painter is much cheaper and if you're a casual painter they will be good enough. If you actually wanna art it up, vallejo or reaper are excellent

[hazy meadow]

I wonder if I should look into an elegoo printer or something. After this death guard and skaven box im honestly just wanting to paint bigger stand alones like great unclean one for example ( although obviously not that model in particular because that would be illegal but)

[lethal ridge]

two thin coats or coat de arms are good brands too

[hazy meadow]

Im paying 150 per standalone whereas with two of those I could justify an entire printer and curing set

[plush swift]

Hobby paints are grossly overpriced student grade fluid acrylics

just go to an art store, get some student grade fluid or soft bodied acrylics, 60ml is like $2

they are matte and opaque

[limber widget]

my most expensive model i bought was an 120 euro old greater daemon of slaanesh fron gw during christmas of 2019

[hazy meadow]

I know of at least 4 $150 models I would like to have. I'm sure i could get a printer for half of that and find alternative STL files that scratch that model itch I want to paint and save money for something similar

[plush swift]

looks at the warlord titans I have sitting in my closet I would never spend that much on some plastic

[limber widget]

damn

[lethal ridge]

I don't get why GW doesn't bring back oop mini lines... I spent a grand this year on old metal bretonnians and none of that money went to GW

same with old metal catachans

[limber widget]

i never bought a titan

[atomic rose]

You never bought a titan...yet

[hazy meadow]

Surely we are referring to

These

[plush swift]

no

[limber widget]

Yea

I was thinking of buying one

[hazy meadow]

[limber widget]

I'm the near future

[hazy meadow]

My wallet

[plush swift]

titans arent expensive

just ask your parents for 1mil

[atomic rose]

I always wanted a macroature for a price of a small car.

[limber widget]

There is an hobby shop not that far from my mom's house by the mall that sells some warhammer 40k and fantasy and warhammer related models called conquests

[white shore]

https://www.beadndgames.co.nz/products/warhammer-40-000-recruit-edition?_pos=4&_sid=301574c62&_ss=r

Would you guys rate this ?

[limber widget]

Hmm

I don't really have it I can't really give it an rate

[white shore]

They slot together unlike normal ones

[limber widget]

Yea

I still prefer the tactical squad

That set is bit expensive

Not really

But the tactical squad can be 20 to 25 in money in depends on wich country you live in

By me it cost around 20 euros

[white shore]

I live in New Zealand

[limber widget]

Ah

That makes sense

Than the tactical squad wil be a tiny bit expensive than the European price

[white shore]

Yeah bro

[limber widget]

That woud be 81 dollars for the tactical squad in gw

[white shore]

https://www.beadndgames.co.nz/products/warhammer-40-000-paints-tools-set?variant=42125057556656

Is this worth it getting started ?

[limber widget]

I think so

You can buy it also per piece

[white shore]

Will probably be more expensive per piece

[limber widget]

True

[white shore]

Will just have to consistently wash the singular brush

[limber widget]

Last time I bought like 4 to 6 paint it already costed me around 24 euros

Per paint