40k-minis-and-armies

[muted token]

Scroll up a bit, I posted about stationforge doing a darktide thing, then you can probably find some decent guardsmen online, if you Google "Yeggi" that's quite a good search engine for stl files

[finite rain]

wip

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made a mistake
went to games workshop again

walked out with another sentinel lmao

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nice colours

[barren vessel]

WIP member 1/5 of reiver KT with base tone done. now needs details and base painted and weathering. these guys are desert camo Raptors.

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Another fine addition to my collection

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https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-19575284

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2 outta 4

gonna do a lil kitbashing on it because i want it to be my command sentinel or whatever

[slender zodiac]

command sentinel...... why is that such a baller idea?

i want one now

[bold solstice]

It's Stockholm syndrome

That said anyone that brings unpainted 3D prints to a store is earning a darwin award for that alone

Any juicy tidbits on their future?

Oh god the decision makers are a bunch of fossils, this explains so much

which emp titan are you using?

[muted token]

uh

I have no idea, it's got like an entire church on it's back

[bold solstice]

...That is generally what an Emperor titan has yes :p

[muted token]

I'm pretty sure it was a free stl?

[bold solstice]

fair fair

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I kinda wanna print it out of FDM and I've only got a resin printer

[bold solstice]

I'm just looking for 1 that doesn't go for shrimpy legs

[muted token]

so I'm waiting until I get a different printer

[silent pasture]

Eh

[slender zodiac]

wouldve looked better on a armored imo

just find a flat spot and glue antennas on

[frigid minnow]

I would love Vostroyan firstborn in plastic. Only reason I haven't purchased from a 3rd party caster is because I dont want to deal with resin.

[bold solstice]

It's not so bad

just wet it down, wear a good mask when filing off mold lines in a well ventilated area, and remember it needs superglue

vostroyan in particular aged great

[carmine blaze]

What is a good list to look at for a 2000 point Black Templar army?

[frigid minnow]

I wouldn't mind doing that but I don't have a space where I live to handle the material away from my dog. I have room mates so if I lived on my own I'd just do it in a seperate room but I don't have that space at the moment.

[quiet stump]

btw how do forge world models fit into tabletop

since theres alot of unique vehicles and weapons on there

even for 40k

[plush swift]

they have their own rule book but most stores and kitchen table games generally dont allow them due to their wildly unbalanced nature, only one that fits well is dkok

[quiet stump]

ah so im guessing theyre mainly for kitbashing or

[bold solstice]

FW balance is a meme honestly

they're fine

[quiet stump]

like applying normal dreadnought rules to a contemptor dread

[bold solstice]

Let's be real, GW fucks up on a regular basis, their rule writing is nothing to write home about

Your average homebrewer is at least as competent as a GW ruleset if they put any effort into it

[plush swift]

And FW is a separate rules team from the regular

its not so much an OP thing its a mix of just not fitting mechanically, plus they dont really get updated so some units are stuck with 8e rules while the army has a 9e codex

[plush swift]

not really, its just a different team who does the rules for them so they can be wonky

generally they are "fine" but its one of those, depends on the army things

Only ones I know that get updated on occasion are dkok and custodes from them, everything else is ignored past the first book they release for each edition

[quiet stump]

ngl i kinda want a tech marine in gravis armour

[plush swift]

I mean if you want one you can get one

Just know the resin they use isnt very good so you might have issues and unlike reg GW, FW wont replace bad casts very often

[quiet stump]

oh fuck it then

stick to the normal stuff

start on the kill team stuff

not gonna bother trying to get into astra once the new models release since they'll be hard to get

tbh tho the chaos marine models are kinda eh

[ebon mango]

he's angy

[frank shuttle]

Getting there

[prime scarab]

Forgeworld models are powerful but are too costly to sometimes justify bringing over unless you really want something epic

I only own one Forgeworld model and that's my Daemon Prince

if only because I loved the aesthetic of it

[narrow ice]

Also resin models are rediculously fragile

[slender zodiac]

not to mention its FW so quality control is barely a thing
so big things pieces are probably warped

[narrow ice]

*functionally garunteed to be warped

[slender zodiac]

yeah youre right
i gave FW too much credit

[plush swift]

Forge World literally exists for Horus Heresy

If you play 40k and go to forge world for a usable model, good luck

Just play Horus Heresy if you want the Forge World stuff

Anyways, us 30k players just 3D print most our stuff anyways, unless it’s troops, because troops take too long

[muted token]

I saw a conversation about ForgeWorld, wanted to let you know I've ordered quite a few bits and pieces from there over the years, I've never once had something turn up the shape it's supposed to be

[plush swift]

I guess I’m just lucky

30k minis have had pretty good quality for me, my Qin Xa came in really well

And the new 30k Death Guard Praetors are really good too

[muted token]

So, be careful ordering stuff, I hear people say it's fine for them but I've had a 100% this thing is warped/bent

Oh for sure they're great sculpts

Just everything I get is just, fucked and covered in mold release

[plush swift]

Yeah, usually more recent models have the better quality

If you buy the older models they have

It gets worse and worse

[muted token]

They're usually pretty good at replacements though

[plush swift]

Their customer support is really good from what I’ve heard

But yeah, be careful buying their older models

Their newer ones though have better control

And better quality

And personally their 30k models are pretty good, space marine wise, idk about other factions

I heard their 40k stuff like tyranid models are horrid when it comes to warping and mold residue

[muted token]

I've never been denied a "this thing is fucked can I have a new one"

[tiny jay]

They didn’t have the 30k stuff like legion basilisks when I was doing my Loyalist Death Guard back in the day.

[muted token]

Oh god yes they are

Just, spindly bits of resin that just are cancerous

[plush swift]

Now they do, but basilisks are ass sadly

I like their Deimos vindicators

[tiny jay]

I’ve got a Basilisk and is it the Medusa with the heavier gun?

[plush swift]

Yeah, spindly bits are their worse culprits

[plush swift]

No clue, I don’t touch the basilisk cause it’s a worthless model in 30k

[tiny jay]

Just gonna repaint them for my Moebians.

[plush swift]

I play grave wardens, and mostly plastic models from the new 30k range of redone models

I can’t wait for the Typhon

[tiny jay]

Fair, I’m focusing on Traitor Guard atm. I sold off most of my old Death Guard painted space marines when I gave up the hobby 10 years ago.

[plush swift]

I play Death Guard in 30k

They’re really good, comparable to the best traitor legion Iron Warriors

[tiny jay]

I had this idea of a Siege focused death guard army’s hence the Basilisks.

[plush swift]

DG have remorseless, so all their models act as if they were stationary

So you can full move tanks and vehicles and not get any downsides

No snap shots

You can full move tactical marines and get double shoot from fury of the legion

[tiny jay]

Only just getting back into the hobby, Between the portrayal of the blood pact and the Moebians in Darktide it gave me that push into picking it up again.

[plush swift]

You can full shoot every weapon on a vehicle that full moves because it acts as stationary

And their rite of wars are really good

The Reaping let’s you take HSS as troops, and Creeping Death turns terrain into dangerous

DG is very much now attritional warfare, disrupting enemy movement, while slowly pushing up the board

Iron Warriors is the siege warfare you’re looking for

[tiny jay]

Oh I’m probably not gonna build a marines army any time soon.

[plush swift]

Understandable, I just really like marines

I don’t understand how people tell me “how can you play Horus Heresy, there’s only space marine players and nothing else!”

Like… that’s.. why I’m here

To play space marines and nothing else

[tiny jay]

Fair.

[plush swift]

It’s the Horus Heresy… where space marines were the ones fighting each other, not xenos

The Horus Heresy is entirely about space marines, why play it if you don’t like them?…

I’m not gonna say you have to play it, just don’t play it if that’s not something you like, we’re not gonna change the game entirely to fit the needs and wants of a minority group when the setting is about what it is, it’s not gatekeeping, that’s like asking a blacksmith to be a chef because you don’t like weapons… when you went to the blacksmith instead of going to a restaurant

[tiny jay]

I’m gonna have my hands full with my Moebians.

I’ll start with a kill team, I got The Moroch box and an extra box of Blooded.

I’ll either paint the Phobos Marines up as Emperor’s Warbringers or Raptors. And my SO is going with SoB possibly with a custom theme and reskinning Celestine as Messelina.

Then we’re mostly gonna print from there to build the rest out.

I think she’s looking at the combat patrol atm for SoB

[plush swift]

Sorry I’m on a rant, just something I never got out of my system, I just don’t understand people

Ooo I like kill team, I play intercession squad

[tiny jay]

All G

[plush swift]

And wyrmblade

[tiny jay]

Only think I don’t like about new kill team is the limited roster.

[plush swift]

But mostly intercession squad

[ebon mango]

its chinacast

[bold solstice]

40k is crap and the Heresy wans't just a marinefest

[plush swift]

It is a marine fest for the most part, you can’t deny that

[bold solstice]

Try saying that militia, ruinstorm, and solar auxilia arne't welcome and see how far that gets

[plush swift]

It was definitely 75% a marine fest

[bold solstice]

there's really no reason not to just throw in "Xeno species" in some supplement

if only so Marines can reenact the Crusade

[plush swift]

Dude, ruinstorm works with word bearers

[bold solstice]

Look ultimately there's no "they don't fit" argument against no xeno support at all

[plush swift]

But why have Xenos at all

[bold solstice]

I mean GW agrees lol

[plush swift]

When they don’t play a role in the HORUS HERESY

[bold solstice]

They...literally do

and the Crusade before that

[plush swift]

No they don’t..

[bold solstice]

GW's obsession with LOUDY MCSHOUTYMAN YELLS AT SECOND LOUDY SHOUTYMAN aside

xeno species are kinda significant for 1. the set up for the Heresy. 2. taking advantage of the Heresy, 3. showing up every so often

Hell, Eldar saved Stygies

Orks are pivotal to the excuse for Calth to happen

They're not front and center

but like

neither is militia squad 345346347373

[plush swift]

Xenos didn’t do much in the Heresy war speaking

[bold solstice]

or tech thralls

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Orks are just being orks at all points

They see a scrap

[plush swift]

Solar Auxilia makes sense cause they are the imperiums troops

Mechanicus makes sense

Custodes were literally in the battle of Prospero

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Oi wonna fite

[bold solstice]

One battle and otherwise literally offscreen?

[tiny jay]

I think the point was more that 30k isn’t just the heresy.

[bold solstice]

I would not have tried to cite Custodes lol

also I'll note that GW emphasis is not on xenos so far

[plush swift]

But why call it the Horus Heresy then?

[bold solstice]

Good idea

let's call it 30k instead

[plush swift]

When it’s meant to be recreational battles of it

Like the dropsite massacre

[bold solstice]

Look you lose nothing for having more armies to fight

It's not supposed to be a pure marinefest anyway

[plush swift]

But Xenos makes no sense anyways

[bold solstice]

have fun reenacting the Crusade or random opponents in the

oh for the love of

neither does the mk 2 fetish

given it's a museum peice being phased out even late crusade

but people want it anyway

[plush swift]

I like ruinstorm, I like the blackshields, everything other than Xenos in the Horus Heresy

[bold solstice]

hell the beakies got upgraded into being default armor

it's clear lore can be bent a bit

[plush swift]

Yes, but Xenos doesn’t make sense

[tiny jay]

I mean, it’s not like they weren’t present.

[bold solstice]

who do you think the Legions were fighting

[plush swift]

In the unification wars yes, but not in the Horus Heresy

[bold solstice]

Look if "homeless space marines" can be an army

I think it's safe to say there's room for the Eldar who had a hand in Heresy plotlines

[plush swift]

I like those homeless space marines, they have cool lore

[bold solstice]

or Orks who the Crusade was about

okay but other people like xenos

[brazen silo]

I hate resin models

[bold solstice]

in fact I'd wager more people like xenos than like blackshields

[plush swift]

No, I don’t want Xenos in the Horus Heresy, they are dumb to begin with for the setting

[bold solstice]

it's your lucky day though because GW's obsessive space marine fetish means you get what you want

even though it's really dumb

[plush swift]

Blackshields are the best

[brazen silo]

I got deamon prince of nurgle and i spent the worst hour of my life gluing him together

[bold solstice]

Like ultimately a pure marinefest is absolutely like watching paint dry

and makes Marines less special

they're now the default rather than warrior angels

[sudden notch]

Old toystore in my town has some 1 gen marine models

[plush swift]

And I like my cults and militia for Alpha Legion

[sudden notch]

Shoppy time

[plush swift]

Play a different game then if you don’t like Horus Heresy that much, just go to 40k

[tiny jay]

Back to kill team, peoples thoughts on 1.0 vs 2.0?

Not a massive fan of the lists as they are at the moment.

[bold solstice]

40k is a dumpster fire, but you're suffering a failure of imagination

if you don't want to be able to reenact Crusade events

or go up against xenos

[plush swift]

Go okay Kill Team, go play 40k, stop trying to infect other games with things we don’t need

[bold solstice]

there is no we

there's just a random marine fan pedant with a loose grasp of lore

Like let's be real

you'll be "safe" from having xenos in your game of red vs blue

but it has nothing to do with tone, lore, or options

it's the same reason bangels don't get sanguinary guard

because of GW's backwards organization for its variant games and stubborn refusal to add fun variant options back in

it's a game mode's failure not a feature

don't worry you won't have to play against those spooky eldar or orks anytime soon

[plush swift]

Xenos were never in HH 1.0, they had fan rules

[bold solstice]

Yes.

Exactly.

[plush swift]

People who wanted to play them, a small amount of people

[brazen silo]

How do i make a salamanders army

[plush swift]

They can stick with their unofficial fan rules stuck in 7th edition

[bold solstice]

Because god forbid there be variety in a game mode

[brazen silo]

I keep getting them confused with blood angles

[plush swift]

We have variety

[bold solstice]

despite your best efforts yes

[slender zodiac]

casty dreadnought
2 dual flamers
dreadnought drop pod
enough said

[bold solstice]

by your own arguments may as well delete mechanicum, cults, solar, ruinstorm etc

[brazen silo]

Alrighty

[bold solstice]

because iTS MarINeS

[plush swift]

The space marine legions have tons of variety and fluffy abilities to their lore, I’m sorry you don’t like a game where that’s the center attention

[bold solstice]

I'm sorry you're so obsessively tunnel visioned on one narrow area of 30k that you hate the idea of even enemy variety

[rare hornet]

Well to be fair, HH was primarily focused on the imperium civil war

[tiny jay]

I don’t think it’s the worst thing, for one if you want to play like your Death Guard as Dusk Raiders or even various legions as they were in their Pre-Traitor state. And going up against Xenos. While still having the legion style lists for what you can do or bring. Compared to being limited to Astartes gear and having primaris etc in 40k.

[bold solstice]

Yes, with emphasis on primarily

but like, there are so many niche elements of 30k by now

that the idea it's supposd to be a marinefest is just silly

[plush swift]

Just leave if you don’t like it, don’t play it, because HH is about that, just stop trying to add your shit in when it’s not needed, you have fun playing something else while I have a game that fits my niche

[bold solstice]

Like come on, "Red vs blue" is a joke not a how to guide

good lord the absolute state of this HH fan

[plush swift]

Play 40k, I don’t care how shit it is, justify how much you spent on models there

[bold solstice]

get therapy

[rare hornet]

Meh, I like the new HH rules so who cares?

[brazen silo]

Wait is this just someone gatekeeping someone else’s joy?

[plush swift]

But I paint and play DG like the HH

I even make my vets partially corrupted plague marines to match the siege of terra

[bold solstice]

The joke is no one's gonna take your DG army away

[tiny jay]

It’s my point though, the 30k rules suit crusade era marines better than just using 40k rules for it.

[plush swift]

It’s someone trying to change what a game is mainly supposed to be about because he hates another games system, so he needs to find justification for spending money on a dying system

[bold solstice]

Good lord you are remarkably overinvested in keeping xeno rules out of HH

[tiny jay]

I just don’t see the problem with having more options for what to play in 30k/HH

[bold solstice]

Exactly

[plush swift]

Because I like my space marine semi-exclusive game

[brazen silo]

Ah

[bold solstice]

That...is really a you problem

since HH has basically never been a marine exclusive

and that's not a pro

[plush swift]

Why can’t there be a game about mostly space marines

[rare hornet]

Well GW has exclusively kept to HH before, with titanicus

[bold solstice]

Well I wish you the best of luck in your crusade to delete anything not in power armor from 30k

[simple agate]

🥴🥴🥴 never painted a tank before so this was great

[bold solstice]

let us know how that works out

but I think this flamewar has reached its illogical conclusion

[plush swift]

I like my imperium forces and daemons

[slender zodiac]

thats a very nice tank

[brazen silo]

Warhammer is a huge ass universe and seems trivial to just take a small bit of it

[bold solstice]

looking good

[tiny jay]

If you want to exclusively play space marines then just pick games against space marines? I don’t see the problem.

[plush swift]

That’s why 40k exists

[brazen silo]

Damn congrats, im dreading painting my death guard tank

[slender zodiac]

punisher lascanon melta sponsons
based as fuck

[simple agate]

I still have a bane blade to do it's gonna be a huge ass project haha

[simple agate]

My glass cannon tank 🥴 my other Russ is a tank commander with the execution plasma with plasma sponsons haha

[brazen silo]

But 40k isn’t cutting into just one single factions soldiers

[rare hornet]

It’s actually a simpler model than you think, it’s just a big model

[tiny jay]

Airbrushing makes tanks easy.

[plush swift]

I personally don’t want to see official xenos rules exist because if they’re strong, then that’s all you see, and it’s prevalent in 40k that’s what you’ll see if it’s strong, idc if I’m fighting the most cancer Imperial Fists, as long as it’s not a shit ton of Orks or Eldar because their rules are too strong, I’m fine

[brazen silo]

I dread any of my bigger modeles

[rare hornet]

Or spray ca if you’re cheap

[plush swift]

Even if daemons rules are strong, Word Bearers would be seen, as they can use daemons

[simple agate]

Wasn't there a game called enternal vengince or something? From what I saw that was like the battle Field of space marines haha

[bold solstice]

I dunno about games where you are, but HH is generally not about bringing the strongest most broken list lol

[tiny jay]

Krylon base coat if your IG, the cammo colors as you half way painted.

[bold solstice]

so that's just really weird as an argument

[slender zodiac]

ive had my baneblade builtfor a year and a half
it stills scares me from painting it

[brazen silo]

I have a rottigus glottkin and my tank and im not touching them til i have an actual year of practice

[plush swift]

That’s why you just play 40k

[simple agate]

Air brushing with speed paints 😉

[rare hornet]

Can we just stop arguing about game rules?

[brazen silo]

Yeah

[bold solstice]

There's no point yeah

[brazen silo]

Lets talk about the best chaos god

Nurgle

[slender zodiac]

nurgle

[brazen silo]

He’s just a cool dude really

[plush swift]

And that’s what Horus Heresy is for, mostly space marine players, with the addition to other imperial and chaos armies

[simple agate]

I thought we were talking about video games, mah bad 🥴

[brazen silo]

He’s like santa with no naughty list

Everyone gets his gifts

[bold solstice]

jesus why are you letting the idea of xenos live rent free in your head

just go play against other marine players if it spooks you THAT much

[tiny jay]

Legit though, peoples thoughts on kill team 1.0 vs 2.0? I’m not sold on the lists as is vs the old points system.

[simple agate]

Purge the heretic

[brazen silo]

:(

But i don’t want to be purged

[slender zodiac]

if the emperor fails me i need a backup plan

[pearl onyx]

Mods are asleep post Warhammer Fantasy minis

[simple agate]

I'm fine with either 😄 I never played V1 BUT with my friends we still allow V1 lists that aren't updated for V2 makes it fun 🥴

[brazen silo]

Here look at this really bad tyranid that i painted that my phone thinks is a plant

[slender zodiac]

i love the colors

[brazen silo]

Its not my usual theme i just get bored painting so many space bugs

[tiny jay]

Space Zerg.

[brazen silo]

This is my usual color scheme ignore my bed

[simple agate]

I got my little sister into fantasy 🥴 she loves the cracked out goblins

[tiny jay]

I think I still have some old nids from the Mcragge box.

[brazen silo]

I have too many nids

They were my first army

[simple agate]

My first army was admech 😵‍💫

[brazen silo]

Thought i liked them so i sank way too much money then found out i like death guard more

[tiny jay]

XD

[pearl onyx]

Gitz rule. What a perfect snuffler

[brazen silo]

This is my first painted

Painted him a month ago

[simple agate]

Damn that's clean 😄

[brazen silo]

I don’t have a photo of the guy i just painted

[tiny jay]

I started with the Macraigge boxed set and then built them into Desth Guard. So I had the tiny little classic marines with my bigger modular marine kits.

I never painted the Nids that came with it.

[simple agate]

I started a custodian army then cadia stands came out now I have 2k of army dudes

[brazen silo]

Thanks, i did some touch ups on it but id rather paint my maggotkin sylvaneth and death guard more then my nids

I have a pile of unpainted nids

All primed

Some are half painted

[simple agate]

A couple of my custodians

[brazen silo]

But they sit as they watch me paint everything else i own

[simple agate]

That's like me and my thousand sons, so much gold or black hahahaha, all the tzangoors are unpainted but primed too

[brazen silo]

Im even helping my boyfriend paint his skaven rather then my nids

Don’t get me wrong i love my nids but i feel like i accidentally forced myself into loving something that wasn’t my style

[simple agate]

Skaven 😎 I wish I started with skaven instead of the kharadron hahaha...I wanna slowly ever so slightly empty the pile of shame before I start AoS haha

[brazen silo]

I started with sylvaneth for my AoS

[simple agate]

Aye niceee

[brazen silo]

Then i got some maggotkin as well

Because i hyper focused on the chaos gods for a bit rolled a 4 sided dice and got nurgle

[simple agate]

Niceeeee

[brazen silo]

Then after reading a bit of lore fell in love now i have a tattoo of his insignia

Fuck its late for me

Ima hit the hey

Night yall

[pearl onyx]

I need to finish assembling my squigalanche and assorted heroes then I'll actually be able to play full aos. I just have enough for warcry rn

[plush swift]

And just found out you’re a massive hypocrite who plays Alpha Legion even though you find space marines stale and boring, nice, I’m done talking with you now

[bold solstice]

Bruh

Congratulations on finding...the least concealed fact in existence...

and completely misreading why I think "HH should be a marinefest" is a poor position to hold to boot

because variety of options, including niche ones, is to be celebrated and 30k isn't exclusively about Marines

Seriously we're not going to agree on this but at least think about why your position isn't a positive one

it costs you exactly nothing, not even lore- especially not even lore- for there to be 30k xeno options

[plush swift]

1. Adding it will inflate rules, making more rules is never a good solution, as we see in 40k
2. Other factions still need their rules or books for the new edition, same goes for model updates. So adding more will only skew the focus on other factions that need it
3. Xenos were mostly crushed and had no real functioning armies during the Heresy, and even funnier, they only had interaction in the Heresy when they were brutally murdered by the space marine legions
4. This is a civil war between the imperium forces with a ruinstorm mix, Xenos have little to no importance and don’t add anything to the setting lore wise other than being a nuisance like they always were

Good night

[bold solstice]

1. The ship has sailed and has for a long time on there being lots of rules for stuff.

2. Literally the stuff of a PDF, likely even a free one.

3. Literally recurring plot thread in BL heresy, battles of renown, and yes that does suggest battles against Marine players being a thing doesn't it

[simple agate]

Lads relax 🥺

[bold solstice]

4. This is the disintegration of the newly formed Imperium where threats thought destroyed pop up again, where key events are influenced by xenos or the idea they'd be battling xenos

Seriously this comes over as Marine tunnel vision to an unhealthy degree, while the existence or some support for other armies, especially ones Marines go up against, doesn't take away from the poster kids.

and I say this as- as you kindly noted- an AL fan.

[plush swift]

They usually die in the end of the matters, and never truly pop up until the war of the beast way after the Heresy

[bold solstice]

The threat of Orks is real enough to be the bait that allows for Calth.

[plush swift]

Yet they all die anyways, so what’s the point

[bold solstice]

also "if they die at the end" disqualifies a faction

You, uh,

do remember HH is kinda a historical reenactment game about armies with a particular vibe right

Like by that logic we don't need ||any of the SoH 1st company|| or the shattered legions or Ferrus, or...

[plush swift]

We don’t need Xenos because their interaction is minuscule at best, while these other important battles lead to something greater

[bold solstice]

Okay since this is going nowhere, just going to note this is a rather flawed line of argument, see above.

[plush swift]

Oh no, my legion is fighting these random Orks to start and important battle of Calth that actually has true lore significance

So much fun

[bold solstice]

You really are remarkably overinvested in the idea that HH being a marines only club- which it isn't- is good and proper and MUST BE PROTECTED FROM XENOS. I don't see you realizing what's wrong with that so just gonna leave you to it.

[plush swift]

Fulgrim gets tricked by Xenos snake people, yet they all die brutally and are really not as important as people think

Because we have enough factions as is

Don’t need another blocking up room for more important rules

I’ll leave the fans for the unimportant factions

[rare hornet]

We’re really not starting this argument again are we?

[plush swift]

Nope, because I’m tired of talking to a brick wall

So, best chaos god is Nurgle

That is true

Plague toads and beasts of nurgle are amazing

[prime scarab]

the Horus Heresy really is about loyalists vs traitors

Xenos are not as important in that era compared to 40k. In fact, the only important Xeno I can think of is Eldrad and his kin of prissypants

That being said, I would like seeing campaigns set in the Great Crusade era too

[bold solstice]

Thing is that major factions isn't only

[urban anchor]

since my painting skills are horrible i resort to joytoy 🤣

[prime scarab]

I remember a MWG batrep many years ago, where it was basically re-enacting the Murder campaign. Luna Wolves and Blood Angels vs the Megarachnids

[bold solstice]

HH has traditionally been fairly good about supporting a bunch of oddball "minor" factions smaller than the groups that were the main opposition the Legions faced in the Crusade

[muted token]

I currently have orks, sisters, Iron Warriors CSM and Death Guard at 2k point armies

Who wants to help me decide what to print next

[rare hornet]

Moar Iron Warriors!!

[muted token]

Oh and nurgle daemons

Warp Smith wants more iron warriors

[rare hornet]

Biased? Me? Ha! Of course not!

[muted token]

You'd probably like my IW, they're printed in old armour, like I have saturnine termies

[rare hornet]

What you thinking then?

[muted token]

From uh... Helforge? I think

I dunno really, looking for something at least simple to understand

Harlequins interest me to paint but seem complex to play

[rare hornet]

Well you can always do loyalist space marines if you want a simple to play army?

Should be easy to transition to since you played chaos?

[muted token]

The only loyalists I actually like are Salamanders

And I kinda don't want another Astartes army because I have IW?

[rare hornet]

Yeah fair enough

Perhaps the guard could be worth a look?

[muted token]

I was thinking about it, I'm not 100% clear on how orders work but they seem straight forward if I actually read their book

I could do traitor guard... That sounds fun

[rare hornet]

That works

[muted token]

Tau seem boring

[rare hornet]

They are

Powerful on the table

About as interesting as putting water in your cereal

[muted token]

Hm, I could make the mobian 6th

Or however widefish have spelled ot

[rare hornet]

Yeah that’s always an option

The new models have a fairly close look, although you want to make yours

[muted token]

There's a lot of cool looking traitor guard STLs, plus stationforge have made a very darktide bundle

Do you know anything about GSC

[rare hornet]

Vaguely

[muted token]

Like are they actually hard to understand or do they just seem it

[rare hornet]

They’re kind of crap on the table

I don’t look into it much as they’re sort of a niche army

[muted token]

Oh I should have prefaced, I genuinely don't care about balance as long as it's fun

[rare hornet]

Ah gotcha

[muted token]

I'll basically throw a game on a 11 inch charge for memes

Not that I'm bad, just have more fun like that

[rare hornet]

I remember getting a 10 inch charge with terminators, that was a fun experience

[muted token]

Fucking zoom

[rare hornet]

That ork warboss wasn’t expecting it

[muted token]

I actually made a 11 charge into guilleman with my cannoness before I went away for the holidays

My friend did not expect my cannoness to then one shot his guilleman from basically full wounds

[rare hornet]

That’s just reminded me, I am terrified of what Guilliman is going to become

He’s still 8th at the moment

[muted token]

I mean, I'm not

I can one shot him with a 95 point cannoness

[rare hornet]

For now at least

[muted token]

Fairly reliably off the charge in BR

If he gets wound gating I'm boned

But wound gating AND a revive would be super bs

[rare hornet]

He’s so going to get that,

I will admit he’s actually sort of crap compared to other named characters at the moment

Calling it now, the emperor’s sword will get an ignore invuln

[muted token]

I'd be fine with ignore invul

Anything with wound gating should not have a revive

[rare hornet]

You’re preaching to the wrong company unfortunately

[muted token]

Either ignore invul or like, maybe mortals

[rare hornet]

GW only know brokenly overpowered or brokenly underpowered

[muted token]

Am I? My IW is literally 2 warp smiths, a terminator lord, some marines like 20 terminators and 3 or 4 tanks

Am I missing some iw bs thing

OH GW THE COMPANY

[rare hornet]

Yeah just realised that, should have been clearer on what I meant there

[muted token]

I thought you meant company as in IW

[rare hornet]

Oh no no no

[rare hornet]

I am very interested now though

[muted token]

Do you appreciate my style

Tried to be super thematic with the whole IW thing

No demon engines allowed, seige warfare

[rare hornet]

Ooo now that’s a funky idea. I am taking daemon engines, buuuut mutations are banned

[muted token]

I kinda wanna run a couple blobs of rubrics just for warptime?

Because, warptime

[rare hornet]

Rubrics would perhaps work in a lore sense?

IW and TS were actually quite close

[muted token]

I'm fairly sure IW get along with the other traitors..... Ish

[rare hornet]

Not particularly

The reason they joined the traitors was that they believed that Horus actually values them and what they did

[muted token]

I said ish

As long as they're not near us we like them kinda deal

[rare hornet]

Once they found that Horus was just using them they turned away. So they’re sort of stuck working with other traitors because they don’t have a choice

Traitor legion politics is weird

But Rubrics would work

[muted token]

the politics are weird

Need I remind ye

Magnus the red who is also blue

[rare hornet]

He’s cold can’t you see?

[muted token]

That's from an old white dwarf by the wat

[prime scarab]

yeah

[muted token]

It's not just some random model someone painted

[prime scarab]

but other than Magnus, did any other Primarch have a model in the past?

[rare hornet]

Leman russ did

Weighed the same as a small car as it was lead

[muted token]

First time I saw it I thought my colour blindness had advanced

Loads and loads

[prime scarab]

iirc, there was a time when they provided Angron stats, but no model, they tell you to just use a bloodthirster

[muted token]

Mortarian has one, looks like a shit grim reaper

[rare hornet]

Laughs in never having a primarch model

[muted token]

Perturabo is not real

[rare hornet]

Well his FW is actually quite a cool model

Although with the rumours of them doing a new character series for the primarchs I’m going to hold off for now

[muted token]

Don't make me repeat myself

[rare hornet]

He is real, he just went into the warp to go fetch the siege engines

Maybe he just got lost?

[rare hornet]

You have any images?

[muted token]

Nope, and I'm on a train up to the other end of the country

[rare hornet]

Ah gotcha, no worries then

[muted token]

This is my next 3 or 4 hours

[rare hornet]

Cultured

[muted token]

I keep trying to play chaosgate Daemon hunters, it's super fun and nice to have an xcom 40k

But I'm not entirely sure I like the grey knights, dreadnought dlc is pretty legit though

[rare hornet]

I think grey knights are cool, but they don’t make sense as a big army outside of side circumstances. I.E Angron on Armageddon

[rare hornet]

It’s a great game, but really graphically demanding surprisingly

[tiny rock]

Vashtor being a tech themed demon gives me hope for getting demon primarch perturabo, hope he is a giant obliterator

[rare hornet]

Still would kinda prefer if he stayed as a primarch

Especially as he made a huge point about the weakness of becoming a daemon towards Angron

While beating his face in

[tiny rock]

I would have preferd it as well but last i remember gw said he ascended, i would prefer they stick to what they wrote than retcon

[finite rain]

played it when it came outt, found it a little bit to repetititve tbh, maybe with dlc is better

[rare hornet]

Yeah, I saw that. Shame but oh well

The funniest thing about the new Angron rules is that both Perturabo and Sanguinius beat him while not being daemons themselves. So who’s really the ones you need to be scared of

[tiny rock]

With or without forgebreaker

[rare hornet]

With forgebreaker

Although he has destroyed a thunderhawk with his bare hands canonically

[tiny rock]

Does it matter what sabguinius is armed with i know he has a spear or sword option

[muted token]

This laptop has a 3080 in it, the demanding part isn't my issue ironically

[rare hornet]

I think he’s usually shown with his sword?

[rare hornet]

Jesus

[muted token]

Yeah I basically built this laptop fairly cheaply for 3d modelling and COUGHdarktideCOUGH

[rare hornet]

Can’t argue with that

[muted token]

i7/32 ddr4/3080

Cost me all in maybe, 1100 GBP? I only have like 1.5tb of storage internally though, but I have so many frikkin external hard drives

Queen of external storage

[rare hornet]

Only

[muted token]

Yeah only, I hoard things

[rare hornet]

That Q drive name is perfect

[muted token]

My stl drive is called "PrintyWintyItsyBitsies"

[rare hornet]

Honestly perfect

[muted token]

Yeah, never ask me to name something

[rare hornet]

It’s great

[muted token]

I once coded a website for my mother's and her partner's business

That FTP server was so confused

None of my tags, my filenames, my internal page names

Made any fucking sense

[rare hornet]

As it should be

[muted token]

Like their contact page was "xX420CallUs4SeckzXx.html"

Or something stupid, I never got asked to work for free again though

[rare hornet]

I had a file named “broken_piece-of-shit_circuit (might work)”

[muted token]

Even today my code is indecipherable without me

I get asked at least 3 times a week to put actually relevant comments in instead of like //Remember to pick up cheese

"Woman this code makes no sense"

is it working

[rare hornet]

Code never makes sense

[muted token]

"Yes but nobody knows what's doing what can you either use functional names or use comments"

No

[atomic rose]

You seem like a delight to work with.

[muted token]

You see, if my code is used and indecipherable, I will always have a job

They're all playing chess, I'm playing monopoly

[atomic rose]

You say you do it for job security, but what you are doing is great way to get phased out, since noone can co-operate with you. Happened to me before.

[rare hornet]

Working with code or circuits is great. Whenever someone comes in with a faultfinding job, the first thing that ever happens if you look at the schematics and think “the fuck’s going on here?”

[muted token]

I mean, I kinda fucking hate working at this company

[atomic rose]

That is on you as well, noone is keeping you there and there is quite a market for code monkeys.

But you do you.

[muted token]

I am the TF2 coconut.jpg of a programmer

[novel jasper]

The Bungle Driver.

[muted token]

On my old computer C: was HappyToBeHere and D: was WTFAreYouSavingOnMe

[novel jasper]

as a kid i always thought the driver designations were emoticons

[median thistle]

At least they didn’t replace a circuit with a slice of ham

[tiny rock]

Working on some fw traitor guard

[rare hornet]

The boys

[tiny jay]

I really want some of the old FW Renegade Ogryns.

Jus to paint them up like the Darktide Mutie, since its clearly what they took inspiration from.

[rare hornet]

Oh absolutely

[cerulean mango]

how do i paint nmm ):

[edgy jackal]

Did you use the default camera app? My samsung phone seems to mess with the colours and sharpness when taking pictures

[plush swift]

Dude, how many times do I need to explain it, Orks were destroyed during the heresy, Eldar were too small in number and didn’t want to fight during it, just play 7th edition if you hate it so much

Take your rules bloat back to 40k and ruin someone else’s game holy shit, quit trying to convince others of wrong lore, I looked it up, Orks weren’t in the battle of Calth

It was the whole point of Ullanor

Which was before the Heresy

And 30k was renamed to Horus Heresy because it’s exclusively about the setting, I’m sick and tired already of you trying to find excuse after excuse to add something that’ll only bloat rules and is not important, oh now you’ll say Necrons should be added because Szarekh met Sanguinius during that time, when Necrons had no prevalent armies or battles or anything

You are wrong and don’t want to admit it, and yet you keep fighting to add something that’ll mean nothing to the setting, and even worse, potentially hurt it with more useless rules, it’s why 40k is in its state, leagues of Votann never needed to be added, yet they bloat the rules more with it

Also, if you want Xenos, some guy recommended actually taking Ruinstorm or Cults and Militia, as that’s a build an army workshop, so you could use their rules, and apparently SoS are equivalent to Eldar rules

So you could proxy models with said faction

[rare hornet]

Come on man, you don’t need to keep pushing this

[plush swift]

He doesn’t need to keep pushing it

But he keeps doing so

[rare hornet]

Just ignore it. You can enjoy warhammer you way, and they can enjoy it their way

If they think HH needs to add xenos then just leave them to it

Nothing wrong with you both having different opinions on the subject.

[tiny jay]

Now I'm torn between ordering a few recast FW Renegade Ogryn or getting some Goliath Zerkers.

And just like, making the mask with some putty and guitar string.

[rare hornet]

Maybe a mix?

[tiny jay]

Something to think about. Between the two boxes of Blooded, the Stationforge stuff and the blight drones I'll have enough to paint for a while. Should be arriving after chrissy.

Had to pull the Basilisks apart to fit in my ultrasonic cleaner, I normally just use it for cleaning brass cases. XD

[tiny jay]

Still want to try and make a kind of hybrid between the Forge World Armageddon Pattern for my Medusa and Basilisk though. Since Atoma seems to make its own tanks, either that or save the customisation for the Leman Russes if I get some.

[rare hornet]

That works

[tiny jay]

Also toying with the idea of sourcing a Malcador Infernus and doing it up Tox-Flamer themed. Kind of as if the Moebian 6th has ripped an old Tank out of mothballs to bring the warmth of Grandfather's flames to the ignorant.

[rare hornet]

That would make sense

[brazen silo]

I hate resin models

So much

It was an hour of torture and waisted glue

[edgy jackal]

Which model?

[brazen silo]

Deamon prince of nurgle

None of his parts were the same size and i couldn’t super tell what was model or spur thingy

[edgy jackal]

Oof, my condolences. I too have given up on finecast minis

[brazen silo]

Im glad i got him but never again

Do i have to prime this fuck?

He’s the same color as my grey seer

[edgy jackal]

Yeah, I would.

[brazen silo]

Alright

[cold veldt]

Starting my Leagues of Votann build today, super excited

[brazen silo]

Epic

[plush swift]

The death guard one?

[brazen silo]

Yeah

[plush swift]

Because I had the same damn problem

[brazen silo]

Big sword ugly as fuck face

Damn

[plush swift]

There’s little gaps and pieces that are actually resin sprue

And not details

[tiny rock]

I feel your pain man my recomendation is dryfit then use a little bit of greenstuff on every joint to fill gaps then glue it peel it off a d glue it again so the glue is on both sides

[plush swift]

I had to look at images to tell

[brazen silo]

I got it after a bit

[plush swift]

Did you get the pieces under the belly of the daemon prince?

[brazen silo]

Put enough glue to cover the gaps

[plush swift]

The little bits of sprue?

[brazen silo]

Uhh

Maybe

[plush swift]

Yeah, they have it under the belly

[brazen silo]

Half the sprue crumbled under my hand so idk

[plush swift]

The fly arm with the plaguespewer is awful to try and figure out what’s detail and what’s sprue

[brazen silo]

Yeah

[plush swift]

Jeez, sounds awful, finecast really is a bitch honestly

[brazen silo]

Never again lol

[tiny rock]

to be fair its getting an update with the new demon prince

[plush swift]

That’s why people meme on it, because it’s not finecast, it’s shitcast

[plush swift]

Yeah, I can’t wait for that

[brazen silo]

I could have waited lol?!?

[rare hornet]

The newer resin stuff isn’t as bad

[plush swift]

Yeah, but you wouldn’t have gotten the big sword and ugly as fuck face one lmao

[rare hornet]

Not exactly great, but workable

[tiny rock]

the upcoming plastic demon prince has nurgle heads technically its already out but you have to buy a AOS box set

[brazen silo]

It was a early gift tho so i am very thankful to my boyfriend for getting me it

[tiny rock]

its coming out on its own with the world eaters release

[brazen silo]

Ah

[plush swift]

Even though the finecast is awful, I do like the ugly look of the daemon prince

[brazen silo]

I saw a really cool kitbash with a helmet

[plush swift]

Though most people put a fly head on it instead

[tiny rock]

sadly the head is the only nurglie bit so if you want a proper nurgle body the only hope is conversion

[plush swift]

The plague drone head and wings

[tiny rock]

thats the old plastic one this dude right

[plush swift]

That dude and the daemon prince of Nurgle finecast

That dudes in plastic

[brazen silo]

Finished this guy yesterday

[tiny rock]

havent seen the nurgle one with the blight drone head before plenty of the plastic one though

[brazen silo]

Then i just processed to drop him and cut my finger on his tentacle on his foot

[tiny rock]

passed on the current demon prince for the finecast one and this guy

[brisk vapor]

the new one is so good

[tiny rock]

and proper heads for all 4 gods

[brazen silo]

Oh cool

[tiny rock]

here ille find his sprues from the slaves to darkness box

[brazen silo]

God i need motivation to paint more

I need more practice

Specifically with eyes

[tiny rock]

Dang now i feel like settingg up mu army for a photo ive got about 1k points of death guard parade ready and based but 3k models in total that are in various stages of completion

[brazen silo]

Oooh

Jealous

I don’t have my codex yet and still pretty new to wh so i don’t know my point value but I’ll send a pic too ig

[tiny rock]

Alpng with 2 squads of deathwing some dark angels veterans the primaris half of the dark imperium box 2 free models that they give out to paint and ive been slowly colecting traitor guard

[brazen silo]

All my death guard

[tiny rock]

Welp now i gotta set mine up

[brazen silo]

The pox walkers aren’t finished i just mixed too much of the color i was using for flesh

Tesseract glow and tuskgor fur

Makes a good rot color

[tiny rock]

8 blightlord terminators magnetized down to the combi weapons

[brazen silo]

Noice

[tiny rock]

Typhus 1 malignant plague caster 2 lords of contagion and 1 noxiois blightbringer

10 plague marines 7 from dark imperium 3 from the easy build

12 more plague marines
The reinforcements 3 pack for 40$ only the melta dude is off sprue at the moment 1 pack of the 7 multipart being built as mele only the mace and axe dude is built, one free plasma gunner that the stores gave out when the death guard got their 8ed codex and 1 icon bearer converted from the leftover bits of my chaos lord conversion

[brazen silo]

Is it better to paint before assembling?

[tiny rock]

A converted chaos lord made from the icon bearer and lord of executions

[atomic rose]

Depends. For display models, absolutely. For army speedpainting? No.

[tiny rock]

Depends on the model

[brazen silo]

I see

[tiny rock]

BUT WAIT THERES MORE

[brazen silo]

Lmao

[plush swift]

Generally you can assemble the torso, legs and head together, with the arms glued after painting them

[tiny rock]

Blightlord weapons btw

A foul blightspawn as well as a rhino/ predator

[brazen silo]

Alright this is enough motivation for me to paint

[tiny rock]

BUT WAIT THERES MORE

20 poxwalkers

6 more poxwalkers + 20 dark vengance cultists

[plush swift]

Oh, those are the OOP poxwalkers

[tiny rock]

7 of the old finecast plague marines cant find the 7th dude so pretend he is there

[plush swift]

The only plague marines you’re missing is the space marine heroes ones

And the Japanese malignant plaguecaster

[tiny rock]

Got those too but they are at my parents house in chula vista

Dont have the japanese plaguecaster yet

[plush swift]

I used to own both those, the malignant plaguecaster I got from a friend, no longer has them anymore

[tiny rock]

Also have the plastic single plague champion

[plush swift]

I had to sell my plaguecaster though because financial stuff

Such a good model

[plush swift]

Aaah, they are really cool looking honestly

[tiny rock]

An old fw dg dreadnought and 3d printed contemptor w twin volkite

[plush swift]

I feel like if GW wanted to make a bespoke Death Guard kill team, they could just shove the space marine heroes and the plaguecaster in a box and call it a day

Oh yeah that’s the really old one, that’s Nurgle infected

Both of them

That old Dreadnought head could be used on the resin daemon prince, make him helmeted

And with both being old it would match

[tiny rock]

Anyway gunna stop taking pictures for the rest of the army

I have an old havocs box set to recreate the plague marine havocs from old
I have an old chaos space marine set i plan to get the old fw dg conversion for i have a set of the old posessed i plan to use for kitbashing parts, on sprue i have a single multipart bloatdrone i plan to build with fleshmower a second blight hauler, a plague burst crawler a deathshroud squad, previously mentioned space marine heroes a full set the single buy plague chanpion, a set of the gellerpox infected 3 sets of old fw traitor guard bodies 2 sets of traitor guard weapon arms 2 squads of guard 2 heavy weapon teams that will be turned into 6 1 lemian russ 1 set of 3rd party legs for a 3 rd guard squad, a pack of the bloodied killteam with traitor enforcer and ogryn and thats i think all of my chaos themed stuff

For anyone wondering about the death guard havocs they are these guys

Oh and i bought a pack of nurglings to experiment painting skin tones on

That and a dude at my college plays warcry so i was plankng on branching i to chaos demons to play with him

[tiny rock]

not looking to shabby, color scheme reminds me of iron wariors with the gold axcents and gunmetal armour.
get some agrax or nuln oil on that bad boi and it will look shnazzy indeed
my advice for hilights, drybrushing hilights looks better on metalics than trying to edge hilight in my personal opinion

[rotund spoke]

With drukari,
Do I get 1 warlord trait for entire army, then an additional warlord trait for each attachment?

[brazen silo]

Im not good at dry brushing

[brisk vapor]

I'm pretty stocked about this nmm, airbrushed base tones on the left and 40 minutes of brushwork on top of that on the righr

[tiny jay]

The more I think about a Tox Flamer Malcador Infernus the more I want to just bite the bullet and order one. Stuff like adding extra drums to the carriage behind it with some dudes mixing up the Tox flame mix on it, another dude siphoning some extra fuel into the malcador’s onboard fuel reserve and maybe a dude burning fury road style strapped to it somewhere.

The Fluro Nurgle Color citadel do would be perfect for making Tox flame.

Just need to learn how to sculpt flame.

[vocal pewter]

Current imperial guard pile of shame

Never enough time @_@

[quiet stump]

Soon to add to the pile with the new stuff

Gotta get the new shiny stuff

And new kasrkins

[novel jasper]

the gloss is real

oily buttocks!

[plush swift]

you really dont want a fluo paint, you need to store them in a UV protective case if you want to enjoy them for more than 5-6 months

you can mix a neon color though very easily with phthalo green yellow shade and some benz yellow though

[tiny jay]

It’s the nurgle paint they call advanced. It’s not really fluro, just describing the colour.

Like blood for the blood god, it’s simmilar but hella bright.

[plush swift]

warpstone glow?

I dont know hobby paint names well

Tesseract Glow?

[quiet stump]

How’s salamanders this rule set?

[brazen silo]

Thats a good paint

I use it on basically everything in some way

[plush swift]

never used it, the company I work for got around 20k of citadel paint in once, we opened 3 bottles and threw them all into a crate and theyve been sitting in a warehouse for 3 or so years now.

[brazen silo]

Damn

Any way i can get that box? lmao

[tiny jay]

Nurgle’s Rot is the name, normally used for goo/slime.

But I think it’ll work good for like, leaking Tox flamer fuel dripping from the flamer/hoses.

I just really like the idea that the Moebians have taken this old out of service Heavy Tank and turned it into an unholy engine of fire.

[quiet stump]

I didn’t paint these but they look good

[left egret]

Painting plasma was a pain

But it has a dull glow to it at least

I call that a win for now

[left egret]

Warp lightning and tesseract glow are a thing. Actually used them to paint my plasma gun

[plush swift]

Sure, you'd just have to sit through one of the employees explaining to you why that paint is bad

[plush swift]

Well warp lightning is pure PG36 and the glow looks more like PG36 mixed with i think PY3

[left egret]

No idea but it seems to work as a dimly green plasma when used together... as well as combined for one coat

[brazen silo]

Thats fine

[crimson birch]

just painted my first mini

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917816468912099428/1055224744917614612/20221221_214223.jpg?width=503&height=671

[plush swift]

Oh you say that but you've never been around actual paint nerds before. I'm preachy about paint, but my coworkers are hardcore zealots

I hate my coworkers

[left egret]

It is glorious, loyalist scum

[crimson birch]

🖕 😃

ty

[left egret]

Blood angels?

[crimson birch]

no i just wanted to paint it red thats all

[left egret]

Cool

[crimson birch]

if i do start collecting ill do guard

just wanted to learn the basics with some space marines

[left egret]

It'll remain chaos for me.... even if spikey bits and hazard stripes are a pain

Iron within, Iron without

Still like the way the marine is painted

[brazen silo]

I get yelled at over my shoes being in the wrong orientation

Im poor and desperate enough to get scolded for some citadel paints

[left egret]

Nice. Looks super weathered... how did you do that?

[desert drum]

very watered down browns and oranges @left egret

[left egret]

🤔

I might try that once I have painted more than 10 models

[brazen silo]

Yall are so good at painting

I am not :(

[left egret]

I'm really not though. The only reason my Iron Warriors look passable is because I make up for my lacking skills with stubbornness and spite

[brazen silo]

Better then me

Ive been painting maybe a yearish

[left egret]

So many mistakes I have to fix... many of them are the same one multiple time on the same spot 🥲

[left egret]

Damn my shaky hands

[brazen silo]

I painted this like 2 days ago ifs not great and i missed a shit ton under his backpack thingy

[left egret]

What the hell that's not bad paint at all. I wish mine looked this good

[brazen silo]

I have much to improve on lol

[left egret]

If its hard to reach it is hard to see

[brazen silo]

Yeah i guess

Whats that rule

[lilac moth]

Knowing its missing paint = heresy

[brazen silo]

If it looks good from 5 feet away its good

[left egret]

That's what I keep telling myself when I miss a spot

[brazen silo]

I put abandoned black in the spots cuz i was too tired to do details

[lilac moth]

I keep thinking i did really good job with my painting and then i take really close up picture with my phone and decide to fucking start over because of how horrible it looks 😄

[brazen silo]

Painted him today

[lilac moth]

Turns out looking at it few feet away in normal lighting does not look the same as close up with proper lighting :;D

[brazen silo]

I fucked up on his ass tentacle

[left egret]

Painting the back of loincloths is the bane of my existence

[lilac moth]

oh i fucking hate that

What green is that on the horns?

[brazen silo]

It is the bone layer with tesseract

I use the screaming skull i think

[lilac moth]

gotta try that shit, looks nice

[brazen silo]

Thanks

[left egret]

Once I am done I am done. Flaws and all.
Once I paint the eye lenses or plasma it is finished...

[lilac moth]

Todays building project. Off to painting tomorrow...hopefully

[brazen silo]

Unless its a big ass flaw same for me

[brazen silo]

People that build prime and paint in the same day scare me

I still have tyranids from my start collecting box that are unpainted

[lilac moth]

I did 6 space marine intercessors in a day 😄

[brazen silo]

Damn

[left egret]

Aye. Thankfully I have time to spot those after the second wash is applied

[lilac moth]

dey look like shit 😄

[brazen silo]

I did all the flesh of my pox walkers in 1 day

I think i have the photo

[lilac moth]

6 of those fuckers in a day. But enough to field em, can fix the errors when i have more time

[brazen silo]

Ive been slowly knocking them off

I think I’ve painted 7 of them in the past month

[left egret]

It may be inefficient but I just do 1 model at a time... and Painting 1 dude takes me an entire evening. Once I manage to paint 2 legionaries in an evening but never more

[brazen silo]

I start out taking time then i finish a model in like 30min-hour

[lilac moth]

Picked this hobby 3-4 weeks ago. Starting to get the creeping feeling that i have to strip the paint off everything i have done so far and redone them now that i start to have a feeling for what i can do

[dusty nimbus]

Go for it

Leave one

[lilac moth]

Have to redo all my necrons for sure. They were my first training models

[dusty nimbus]

Just as a reference point to where you are

[left egret]

Or use nuln oil. That shit is talent in a bottle

[dusty nimbus]

And where you were

[brazen silo]

I don’t understand why nuln is so popular

Isnt it just black shade?

I use it to highlight metal and that’s about it

[lilac moth]

Ye, have been thinking if i can do with only pictures but starting to think i have to make a physical gallery of progress

[brazen silo]

I haven’t repainted any of my old nids

But i have a photo of my oldest model next to my “newest at the time”

[lilac moth]

Think i have to leave this fucker as my first in the gallery of horror

[brazen silo]

Also oldest that i own

The first model i ever painted is at my school

I can see if i can find him in a bit

[lilac moth]

So damn tempted to get a airbrush but not sure if its a good idea to use in our living room...

[brazen silo]

Ima wait to get an air brush

Might not even get one tbh

[lilac moth]

Think i have to get one for bigger dioramas

Or im just gonna end up hating myself

[left egret]

It makes metal look good and if you paint in all the details after that and then slap agrax earthshade on it, it looks like grimey gritty warfare

[brazen silo]

Oh

[edgy jackal]

Leadbelcher or even iron warrior straight out of the bottle are a little too bright for the dark "gunmetal" that a lot of people are looking for. That and shade paints are an easy way to establish shadows without layering up from the darkest shadows.

[left egret]

When painting Iron Warriors. I use Iron warriors as base. Then I use retributor gold on some of the finer details. Like pauldron edges. Paint loincloth and belt in rakarth flesh. Then I use nuln oil. Looks good. Then I paint everything else and slap Agrax on it. Last I do glowy bits like eye lenses and plasma coils or blood. Bood is always last

[brazen silo]

My first model

[obsidian tapir]

Finally finished the EC loyalist, still trying to figure out which eye/lenses style I like

[novel jasper]

fantastic

[brazen silo]

With orks does gold fall under yellow?

[novel jasper]

think so yeah

[brisk vapor]

Now I'd need to start weathering this nmm once I dare to do so

[proud anvil]

Green tank was borrowed to fill out points

[slender zodiac]

Nah
Warp shenanigans
Some ships gellar field went out and tzeentch wisked it away onto a random battlefield

[simple agate]

I'm unsure if I ever posted these ones 🥴

[pine yacht]

waugh!

[plush swift]

Hey I'm considering getting into collecting minis after a long time only following lore and video games. Does anyone know a good place to start? I have some experiencing painting larger things myself but know very little about putting kits together.

I'd also like to know if proxies are frowned upon because there's a third-party commissar who is almost exactly what I want as-is and I'd love to make her my first.

[brazen notch]

Is it the Raging heroes one?
If the people you’re playing with are okay with proxies its fine. GW isnt gonna shoot you in the head for it.

[brazen notch]

Depends on what you like, the Starter Sets are great and are push fit. The combat patrols for most factions are also good for like starting out

[reef wren]

tournaments generally require all GW minis

[brazen notch]

True true

[plush swift]

It's the heresy lab female commissar, I mostly intend to play alone since the nearest store that has warhammer games is 2 hours away but I actually enjoy solo tabletop

I'm mostly worried about posting pictures online and getting bullied for having proxies

[brazen notch]

Just add few real parts to it

Its a conversion

And plus anyone who complains about mixing proxies to the real thing, they just need to ground themselves down and talk to people outside the hobby

[plush swift]

Ok thank you! I'll probably buy her and the "start collecting" guard set

[brazen notch]

The old guard is showing its age, poor bastards, if you can wait, wait for the new releases

But they can be sacrificed for progress and practice

[plush swift]

I've seen people use peroxide to strip paint. Does this damage the resin? If it's possible, I could just keep stripping the ones I have when I mess up until I have my practice in

[brazen notch]

Ive seen plastic survive a few changes from what ive saw

But i have little experience with resin

[plush swift]

Yeah I want to practice on guard and then make a tyranid army, but from what I've seen a lot of the tyranids I want are resin

[bold solstice]

Depends but GW stores are usually pedants about third party

[plush swift]

The starter kit for tyranids are mostly gene stealers though, and I hate genestealers, which why I'm putting it off until I have money to spare

[bold solstice]

Maybe some genestealer cultist neophyte hybrids?

oh

hmm you hate genestealers

[plush swift]

yeah I need to get more familiar with the tabletop rules before I'm sure it's viable, and it's also why I need money and want to go with guard first, but I'm planning on throwing out anything genestealer and just replacing the weaker ones with ripper swarms

[tiny jay]

Isopropyl and an ultrasonic cleaner. Jewellery cleaners work.

[plush swift]

will this cause problems on resin or plastic if I do it multiple times?

[simple agate]

I have no idea what I'm doing....any tips to make it REALLY glow?

[ornate bramble]

I can't find the space marine legion jet bikes on forge world so I think either tomorrow or next week they'll be revealed in plastic

[brazen notch]

The dickbikes?

[tiny jay]

Nah, it’s actually a good way to remove the uncured resin from a resin 3d print. Before curing under a UV light.

[tiny jay]

I think that’s fine, though you could mebbe start darker and slowly reduce the are of the lighter layers toward the glowing coils with each one. Only glow I’ve done is eyes thus far. I’m honestly undecided if I want to do the red plasma on my strait or Guard, I feel like it’ll clash too much with the glowing green eyes of my Moebians.

Though glow should be one of the last details. Since it goes over the base coat colors.

[tiny jay]

Just do what I’m building. Get and paint what looks cool and figure it out later. Everything I looked up on Greater Blight Drones says they’re shit. But IDC, the idea of gun toting half machine half bug drones buzzing out like flies ahead of a slowly advancing Moebian Regiment under creeping barrage finishing off anything wounded while they advance is dope.

[plush swift]

aaaaa i love blight drones they're such babies

I genuinely think half of nurgle's army is cute in a gross way

and he's the absolute last army you'd ever expect to include machine parts

yes, yes, blight drones are perfect angels gifted to us by a wonderful god

[lilac moth]

,0-*

[light echo]

gitz multiply

[slender zodiac]

Looks very good :)

[brazen notch]

I dont even want to play tabletop, but ive so far collected at least three/four factions because they look cool

Ive even branching into sigmar

[brisk siren]

as the holydays are approaching 😄

[tiny jay]

I just love that they’re not the usual chaos aesthetic of lots of spikes and barbs In brass. They genuinely look like corrupted existing tech.

I’ve picked out two pieces of old imperial terrain and got an old imperial guard torso. So I’m gonna have one with a tube in the corpse as it’s stand. One will be peeking around a piece of imperial wall, the other’s eye is just peeking over some rubble.

Tempted to order another 3 when these arrive to maybe pose them looking more like they’re zooming along.

[plush swift]

yo you posted the greater shrimp drone

the shrimp copter

[brazen nexus]

Yeah theyre weird

Nothing even looks similar to em

Yet the gw ones are a little too similar lol

Kinda prefer the more gross chitin look of the fw one

[rare hornet]

Stick a jump back to a warhound

Thank me later

[tiny jay]

Yeah, I prefer the Greater Blight Drone, not the Foetid Bloat Drone or the Bloat Crawler.

Just from a purely visual standpoint.

And the Bloat Drone/Crawler are demon engines made in the eye of terror, while the Greater Blight Drone looks like a mad cultist found a warehouse full of drones and let Grandfather turn them into his drones.

If I did something like the crawler I'd honestly just re-flavor an Imperial Guard heavy weapons battery as being partly mounted on a demon engine.

[muted token]

Some of the bloat drones have a super weird texture on the metal parts of their carapace

Mildly irritating to get a decent paint job on it

[naive umbra]

I've started collecting some T'au and looking at picking up some kroot soon, but looks like the hounds and krootox are both resin kits. What are the chances GW will switch those to plastic? I've read that they sorta neglect the auxiliary models (and Xenos in general) so I dunno if I'd just be holding out for a pipe dream.

[brazen nexus]

Only thing I know is coming is a emperor's children upgrade iirc

Haven't heard anything about xenos

Although 10th edition is right around the corner so who knows

[muted token]

Honestly doubtful, kroot are one of those half forgotten auxillary units that will have rules but not sell very well so they won't bother making a plastic kit

[brazen notch]

Plastic Kroot are a kill team set, they’ll probably stand alone at some point next year

[brazen notch]

Plastic Kroot are available now as part of a kill team set, will probably be stand alone kit next year

I think they come with the Imperial Navy Breachers?

Killteam : Into the Dark boxset

[muted token]

Are they? I wasn't aware, maybe kill team will revitalise some auxiliary stuff then

[muted token]

Those aren't half bad

I like the one with the bird

[brazen notch]

its one set

[naive umbra]

Yeah I saw those, just couldn't find much on them or how to buy them, couldn't see them on the GW page at all under kill team stuff. And it didn't look like these had proper 40k rules/datasheets yet from what I could see

[naive umbra]

I thought 10th would still be a while, didn't some 9th ed codexes only just drop this year?

[brazen nexus]

Oh yeah

[naive umbra]

I know I'll be pretty salty if 10th drops soon since the T'au 9th codex released Feb this year, and I'd hate to have to buy a new codex next year or something, even if the 9th codex releases did get delayed/slowed by Covid stuff

[brazen notch]

its still part of the Kill Team Into the Dark set\

[naive umbra]

Yeah fe, hopefully will get their own box soon. The Pathfinder Kill Team is sick and I'll definitely be using those for my 40k Pathfinder team

Now just need to pray for a plastic krootox. I dunno why they did away with Knarloc Riders and the Greater Knarloc. Would love to have been able to use those in an army.

[tiny jay]

the sort of rough almost patina/rusty texture? Yeah. Its kind of what drew me to them.

[muted token]

Yeah Daemon engines are meant to look kinda weird in my opinion

[rare hornet]

Someone say daemon engines?

[tawny topaz]

Any tips for getting better at painting? I’m building a mechanicus army but I also have some small orks and a couple space marines I wanna practice on first

[rare hornet]

You got any painting you done already?

Just for reference

[tawny topaz]

It’s pretty bad but my main ork I got with the box

[atomic rose]

1. Do not rely on guides. You can get inspired by them, but learn how to work with colors.
2. Analyze your favorite pieces. Does not have to be minis, it can be art. Look at the use of colors and try to understand why.
3. Practice. A lot.

[tawny topaz]

Gotcha

Out of the ork I’ve done I’m pretty proud of the weapon I painted and how it came out

I don’t have a picture on me though atm and I’m not home

[rare hornet]

Okay no worries

[rare hornet]

Basically this really

Also having good lighting should never go overlooked

[tawny topaz]

I been trying to a lot yeah

My table is near a window and has an overhead light

[rare hornet]

So you’re doing some orks and space marines for practice?

[rare hornet]

That’ll be fine

[tawny topaz]

Yeah, starting with the orks and I’m gonna do the space marines when I feel more confident

One at a time

[rare hornet]

Okay, if they’re not going to be used for games or anything then perhaps use some as testing models for paints, so paint like a leg of a marine in one colour to see how it actually looks on the model

[atomic rose]

A piece of sprue is generaly better place to test that. 🙂

Wastes less minis.

[rare hornet]

That is true, depends what you wanna test really

[tawny topaz]

Good point, I didn’t plan to use them since they weren’t part of my army

I got halfway done putting together my kastelan robots last night

[rare hornet]

May I suggest trying to paint as you build? Doesn’t work for everyone, but can give you the option to paint some parts while they’re not obstructed by the rest of the model

You will however need something to hold the part, say some Blu Tac or something along those lines

[tawny topaz]

I did think of that ahead of time, I only got to the waist down

So I have a fair amount I can paint that is and isn’t obstructed

[rare hornet]

Fair enough

[silent pasture]

Just received 2 more og sentinels
Gonna build them as armoured
Any weapon suggestions for 9th?

[rare hornet]

To be fair, a lot of the time when I paint I just sort of wing it and hope for the best. Especially with my orks

[tawny topaz]

Orks are sloppy by nature anyway so it doesn’t feel like a big problem imo

[rare hornet]

Yeah

What I can suggest however I start by painting things at the back. So for example the undersuit of a marine first then the armour

Because the black can be messy and get everywhere, but when you go over the armour again you’d cover it up and because the undersuit is further back you won’t accident get paint on it.

[tawny topaz]

I’ll try that out, sounds like it would work pretty well

Yea

[rare hornet]

Apart from that plenty of reference pictures can be useful

Because then someone else has done all the hard work of what colour goes with what

[tawny topaz]

True

[tawny topaz]

I’ll try this out without a doubt