40k-minis-and-armies

[onyx thorn]

My Blood pact i got off Etsy and painted

these are what i'm currently working on, DdoK from StationForge

[honest raft]

Cadia Stands!

[tiny jay]

They do a traitor version of these I'm looking at getting printed for my Moebians.

[raven creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046774317901434930/1054038397242581044/20221219_003544.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046774317901434930/1054038397490049055/20221219_003550.jpg

What do peoeple think of my guo?

still a wip

[atomic rose]

That is gorgeous

[hazy meadow]

Anyone have any luck with non- GW glue?

Waiting on more glue to ship but wanted to finish my death guard army, looking at Walmart and seeing loctite plastic bonder, and regular gel super glues etc

[atomic rose]

Depends on what minis you work on. Generaly any hobby plastic glue will work - it works by melting the plastic together, which makes the pieces inseperable but if applied correctly, also fills in small gaps. If you are working with anything but plastic kits, plastic glue won't do jack and you'll have to with super glues.

For my plastic kits, I use Revell brand model glue. For anything else, just no brand super glue works fine.

[hazy meadow]

Just typical plastic kit yea! Walmart is pretty much the only place I can get to today so I might just have to try my luck with some of these

Thinking the first one might do the job

[atomic rose]

Not sure about it, looks more like 2-part epoxy than proper plastic glue

[hazy meadow]

Oh yea you’re right, thought it was just two bottles not activator/glue

With car in shop and Walmart being close enough to walk/citadel glue not coming until after Christmas I might just have to try my luck with some crappy stuff

Too impatient 🙂

[atomic rose]

If you have no acces to proper plastic glue, super glue will probably work best

[restive yarrow]

a may start a imp guard army from the game

[steel elbow]

dont have a good pic of the front of this but i got one of the back

[copper siren]

i asked my secret santa for the Marines + paint kit for xmas and i've been looking up some paint guides. Do you guys have any particular guide you guys like?

never painted anything besides a door and a new lick for the shed.

[atomic rose]

That is honestly quite a tricky question. There is as many styles and approaches, as there are mini painters. If you are aspiring to improve as a painter, it's probably better to focus on different techniques, trying them out and learn when it is appropriate to use them. If your only goal is to field an army, find a style you like and try to replicate that.

[plush swift]

I use tamiya plastic glue

Very good stuff

[slate pond]

tamiya extra thin!

its godlike

also revell plastic cement is nice, it flows better than the citadel one

both are carried at hobby suppliers

[hazy meadow]

Walmart is the only place I can get to this week, and where I’m at everywhere online is now after Christmas orders so I might just have to wait a little bit

[slate pond]

in a pinch you can use nail polish remover to glue plastic minis...

of the type of plastic gw use anyway...

[plush swift]

Anyone could give me some pointers to get some of that natural white stone look like in this picture? I think a light-brown base, a heavy off-white drybrush, followed by a light white drybrush would work but i'm not sure.
Or maybe more of a light-grey base?

[slate pond]

not tried doing a chalk effect but those steps you mentioned sound like a good place to start for sure!

maybe white/off-white spray, a brown & green wash, then hit with a couple white drybrush steps?

ie earthshade + camoshade mix

is it for scenery, basing, what?

[plush swift]

for a diorama, so the sides aren't just black paint

or at least one of the sides

[slate pond]

those layers in the rock look really interesting

i dont really know how you'd do those, maybe painting quite heavy lines of alternating white shades as a base, then wash, drybrush?

[plush swift]

I was thinking about that, yeah

it'll be a chore, but thankfully it's not a big diorama

[slate pond]

if you can actually get a bit of texture in the lines of paint then the wash would really get in the edges of the lines

i'd do a small test tbh, get some cardboard and just test a couple different methods

[plush swift]

it's made with foam, so I could definitely mark some separations with a pencil or something

[atomic rose]

Here is a tip I learned for replicating natural color schemes, since the eyes can often deceive you. Save the image, open it in paint and get the eye dropper tool. It will tell you exactly what paints you need to use, just take notice of where the pixel (in the shadow, on top etc.) is.

[plush swift]

ooh

big brain

[slate pond]

well what you could do is tape off alternating lines, then hit every other line with a different scrunchjed up piece of aluminum foil, to get different textures in

[atomic rose]

For example in the picture you posted, there is bunch of creamy beiges and browns, but also olive greens, pure whites and a little bit of oranges and yellows even.

[plush swift]

hhm
would the difference between two different aluminium balls we noticeable? In the end, it's the same aluminium crumpled the same way

I could, I dunno, press it less? So the edges would be sharper?

[slate pond]

probably not, i guess i was just thinking one very squashed and one loosely packed

either way the foil ball trick is what ive seen people do on foam for rock texture and it always looks great

really captures the wash

you could always just hit the whole thing with the texture, then lightly score out some lines to mark out the layers

[plush swift]

it's what I use too, works really well

[slate pond]

paint them slightly different basecoats and it'd probably look great

[storm star]

Still a wip

[wintry sphinx]

what colors should i use for scions?

[shut flame]

got a theme you're going for?

@wintry sphinx

[normal epoch]

if your after those striations, they sell a tool to get that effect, but also you can stack thin sheets of foam or even just drag a fork across the surface. 3d prnts can have lines that look like that too

[hearty bear]

I got my dad interested in orks

Also I’m considering getting necrons and painting them novokh style

[plush swift]

I want to expand on this a bit, upload an image with this tool and screw around with the pallets until you can mix it with the paints you have, close enough is good enough https://goldenpaints.com/mixer

[plush swift]

this highly depends on the pigment, some pigments will react negatively if you put steal or aluminum balls into them.

[plush swift]

this is because it is plastic glue, most plastic glue is just mixtures of acetone and butyl acetate, which are both found in nail polish remover. If you really want to save money, check wood working supply stores for both.

[slate pond]

yeah tamiya extra thin is a 50 50 mix of both!

but it does have a little brushy on the lid~

[storm star]

It's Bayards revenge from warhammer day

And thank :)

[pastel grotto]

Workin

[inner yacht]

Destroyer Lord with res orb

[lilac moth]

wtf are those green tubes, and where can i get some?

[pine yacht]

my guess are lego lightsaber pieces

[plush swift]

I think those are sold in regular necron boxes?

[inner yacht]

They came with the old necron sprues, the models are like 15 years old

[lilac moth]

Quess i have to go relic hunting then

[hard sand]

That base is lookin a lil small

poor guys hangin by his toes

[lilac moth]

he thicc

[sharp wolf]

Those new models looks amazing

[inner yacht]

Hes just likes to necron spread

Wraith and a tomb spider

[storm star]

Might find some on ebay

[hazy meadow]

First mini, does it look alright? I’m having trouble with the arm slots, they never really feel like they’re fitting like the legs, head etc

So it’s hard to tell if they’re in the right spot or a little off/tilted

These are the connectors, they’re just super shallow so you can’t really feel them being in

[slender zodiac]

youd have to royaly fuck up for a model to look badly built
so yeah it does look alright

[bold copper]

Did a conversion to make fafnir rann into a regular centurion

[floral wind]

Not quite finished yet but seeing as this is my first miniature there's still ways to go. Thoughts are appreciated

[hearty bear]

That actually looks really good

[floral wind]

Thank you! I am yet to experiment with technical paints and ik ive not thinned the white or yellow quite as much as i should have but it could look worse

I bought something from SF too that should arrive in January

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/PhalanxPrintingUK?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=1282510057 link to the shop on etsy if anyone's interested

[slate pond]

nice work!

[floral wind]

Thank you!

[median thistle]

question is he still imperial fists? if not how hard was it removing the fist symbols

[rare hornet]

Looking good

[bold copper]

pretty much just took a file and knife to all the symbols

smoothed out the shoulder pads as best as i could

[median thistle]

ahhh okay, well at least it doesnt sound like it was too bad, shoulder pads shouldnt be an issue as they can be replaced

Ive had my eye on converting that mini into an ultramarine character

[floral wind]

Thank you also!

[slender zodiac]

Is that..... A plasma shotgun?
Ahhhh im going to need new pants

[floral wind]

[slender zodiac]

The clear glass stand kreiger next to the banner looks like hes carring a plasma shotgun
This makes me wet
A spread of pellet-like plasma is unfathomably based

[pastel grotto]

Th

[slender zodiac]

CHICKEN

[vivid rune]

Oh we gettin there

[vivid rune]

FOOORE clank

Love it

[eternal prism]

Head was a total accident trying out my ultrasonic knife, left strips of melted plastic holding the head on, added some resin rods to provide a bit of structure

[sweet hull]

Question for anyone who has the Mcfarlane chaos marine how do you get the weapons into the hands?

the figure in question

[urban harbor]

looks like one of the annoying ones where you have to force the weapons into their hands

[sweet hull]

Yeah I'm thinking it is but I cant find anything about the assembly and its difficult to try and push past the thumbs and I don't want to damage it

[urban harbor]

yeah thats figures like that are annoying

the pistol looks like it can be pushed in from the top easy enough

the club looks like it will be a bitch tho

[sweet hull]

Idk how your supposed to do the pistol tho because the grip is bigger than the gap in the hand

[plush swift]

they are flexible and just fit in

[urban harbor]

force it in and pray the fingers are flexable enough to not break. i have had to do that with a few action figures

[sweet hull]

weapons are flexible the hands are not

ok got one by brute forcing it

[slender zodiac]

I hear hair dryer helps soften even hard plastic

[scenic escarp]

Hey anyone who plays Dark Angels, can I see your Redemptor Dreadnoughts to get some inspiration?

[sweet hull]

Finally got it was a chore

[marble stag]

I play Dark Angels but I do not have a redemptor. I vibe with my contemptor.

[scenic escarp]

This thing is such a bitch to paint

[marble stag]

Google helps

Personally, I hate the way GW paints Dark Angels with the really bright green highlighting. Kind of ruins the whole point of the scheme imo.

Like I hate this.

[scenic escarp]

The contrast paint is refusing to set evenly I swear

I'm for sure just going to base paint and shade paint instead

[placid summit]

Working on this captain primaris
When i get more colours im gonna finish it

[slender zodiac]

No box noughts? ;-;

[desert drum]

Inquisitor

[scenic escarp]

Primaris Chaplain

[deft fable]

Power ! ❤️

[feral spade]

5 more to go tho x)

[slender zodiac]

Ponie

[sudden notch]

Looking prices it must be painful to create tempestus army

[slender zodiac]

Its painful to create a army in general

Also yeah

Guard

Expensive

[sudden notch]

Especially tempestus scions

5 models per box

Vs 10 of the guard

[plush swift]

I tried using contrast for some time, but ultimately it doesn't look as good as "normal" painting

great if you want to speedpaint

not so if you want good-enough looking miniatures

[rare hornet]

Chaplain Richter of the Black Templars

[slender zodiac]

Bright side is scions are more expensive point wise so you need less.....
However its not much less....
And your choices are fairly limited....

[half zodiac]

Getting my first 500 points of Traitoris Militarum painted up!

[sudden notch]

ah yes let me choose from 6 models from which 4 are vehicles

[plush swift]

it was never to make it look good, its just an army in a bottle product for lazy and uncreative types

[slender zodiac]

hey
i dont hear custodian players complaining

[half zodiac]

That's a bit unfair, some people don't have the dexterity to paint very finely but still try to have fun with it and contrast makes it a lot less stressful

Which is the point. Not.to.be judged for it

[plush swift]

Those items arent made for those people, they are made for the lazy and uncreative types, those products really wont make someone with those same problems painting look better. -someone with those same problems

The items made for people with disabilities to help them are very different, its things like wrist guides and specialized painting stands

[sudden notch]

They dont really need to

[half zodiac]

I'm sorry but that's just a pretty shitty and toxic opinion

You're talking about your own challenges with a certain type of paint. It's entirely unnecessary for you to then start calling people lazy and uncreative for liking something you don't. That's what a child does.

I have tourettes and will never possibly get better at painting. Been doing it for decades and it was so hard I just gave up. Thanks to contrasts I don't play with unpainted models anymore

I'm not lazy and uncreative, you're just a dick

[plush swift]

Its LITERALLY what games workshop called it in their investors meeting, they also refer to it as army in a bottle publically

[plush swift]

I have tourettes myself, dont say you cant do something

[half zodiac]

"Army in a bottle" isn't pejorative

[plush swift]

But it is

it has been for years

[half zodiac]

Wow, what a complete asshole

I'm out dude

[plush swift]

Same

You can do what ever you want to do, disability cant stop you

[half zodiac]

Yes let's pretend you aren't a smug lying dick.

<@&735928989146939404>

Please delete all this nonsense if you can.

[plush swift]

i know i need to paint https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740764973940342915/1054281308546809856/IMG_2760.jpg

[sweet hull]

Been looking at some sets and I'm confused as to why Blackstone Fortress has traitor guard but they aren't available anywhere else as far as I can tell

also didn't know that beastmen were canonical in 40k

[tiny jay]

Kill team Moroch and the Blooded kill team have the 2 HQ models from it and a bunch of traitor guard. Also I think they're better models all in all.

I had ordered 2 boxes of blooded from my local store - but I ended up cancelling one and ordering the full Kill Team box, gonna paint the Primaris up as Raptors or Emperor's Warbringers.

[dusk osprey]

Don't be an ass. Let people paint the way they want to paint.

[sweet hull]

I like the sniper thats in blooded

and the ones with the shield, club and what I think is the lucius lasgun

the rest just don't look that chaosy

[tiny jay]

I got plenty of stuff to add spikes to stuff.

[sweet hull]

Ogryn is great but I'm talking about the regulars moreso

[tiny jay]

Planning to kind of keep them as 'tactical' chaos. Lots of glowing gas masks and spikey armor with a fairly drab paint scheme with some bauxite colored red highlights.

Using some of the more berserker looking chaos guard in their own unit.

[sweet hull]

Yeah I like the masked ones more than the ones that look like normal people

gives them a more mysterious and menacing feel

these guys are great

[half zodiac]

I just finished painting about 500 points of them up above!

[tiny jay]

And I've found some forge world Greater Blight Drones too for my fast attack eventually. I've got 2 basilisks (one with the heavy/shorter gun option) So Just adding some Leman Russ Demolisher proxies should round it out.

[tiny jay]

I like them too, but its only in the Blackstone Fortress kit AFAIK

[sweet hull]

Yeah thats what I don't understand

[sweet hull]

if they released like a set of various things for traitor guard I think that would be pretty popular

[half zodiac]

I'm a big fan of the Blooded box tbh. I have three squads of the Blackstone guys and it's too much mono pose

[sweet hull]

Yeah I wish there wasn't 2 of each pose

[tiny jay]

Gonna suppliment the blooded/kill team box stuff with some prints from these.

[sweet hull]

they still look good tho

[half zodiac]

I hope they mesh well for you

Vulture's Horde from Dakka are really good, they literally wear the same type of clothing as the Blooded so you can keep the paint consistent

[sweet hull]

Hows unofficial models work when it comes to actually playing with them

sorry if thats a stupid question

[half zodiac]

It's not but I'm not sure what you mean?

You just do it

Official tournaments won't let you use them but you aren't missing much by never playing in tournaments tbh

[sweet hull]

idk I'm just relatively new to all this

[brisk vapor]

As long as you don't go out to play in official GW events or stores it shouldn't be a problem

[tiny jay]

I've got a buddy who's fairly experienced with resin printing. I don't plan to use many of the blooded heads. Mostly just heads from the Stationforge bits. And I've got the chainmail greenstuff mold. Which should help tie them together.

[raven stratus]

Finished up my macfarlane marine complete with little guy

[tiny jay]

And like, I can always print extra models to hack up for bits to busy up the Blooded.

[half zodiac]

Yeah I think that'll work! I had to pass on so many STLs I loved because I knew I liked Blooded most and didn't want it to clash too much

I look forward to seeing them

[sharp blade]

just fyi, on the stationforge files the heads come attached to the bodies already so u might have to edit the files if u want the heads alone

[tiny jay]

I'm decent in blender. Even if I just do a really dirty slice and print some busts to hack up

[raven stratus]

Slice and dice

[tiny jay]

I've just got to tell my friend how much of whatever I need printed and pay for the resin and he'll print them to a standard he's happy with whenever he's not got something else printing.

Alternatively, I'm sure someone makes a Kreig head that can be printed.

I need to run another throneside mission to take some screenshots with the lasrifle torch to take a look at the leman rus up close to see if Atoma has any unique cammo.

Only down side getting into traitor guard this late is all the cool renegade stuff from forge world is out of production. Like the Ogryn that the Darktide mutie is celarly based off.

[half zodiac]

Dakkaclub has some absolutely incredible traitor Ogryn

And there's a Necromunda team that ain't half bad if you're handy with conversions

[tiny jay]

Not that I won't have a bunch of stuff to work with. Between the Blooded boxes, My old Basilisks to repaint, The box of bootleg Greater Blight Drones I ordered and the stationforge bits I should have a decent start.

I can look at some Leman Russes and Heavy Weapons teams later.

I like the Blight Drones over like, the new GW Demon engines for the Death Guard tbh.

Visually that is.

And I've pilfered my buddy's bits box for some pieces of imperial terrain, so I think I can do the drones without having them on clear rods by just having them like. Next to broken walls/flying low over some stuff with like, cables trailing under them.

I just think they look way cooler than the more stylized chaos-ey stuff with brass and spikes etc that the Bloat Drone and Crawler have.

[rare hornet]

Christ the scale of these new primaris models are getting out of hand

[raven stratus]

Poor guy never had a chance, Cawl should probably cool it on the inventing

[rare hornet]

Jokes aside though he’s looking sweet

[silent pasture]

Popped down to a gw store
They managed to get me to buy a rhino

[novel quarry]

Never enter a gw store if you don't want to buy anything 😅

[silent pasture]

i learned this

[gloomy raven]

My take on traitor guard

[tiny jay]

I really want a couple of the old Forge World Renegade Ogryns.

[tawdry quartz]

questions for the mini guys in here, has FS released anything on the tertium colors for guardsmen and stuff yet

i been tryna go at it by eye, i wanted to paint some whiteshields and stuff in tertium colors for funsies

(and cause i have too many blue paints)

[tiny jay]

Btw, if anyone here has Kill Team Moroch. But doesn’t want the extra traitor guard in it I’ll happily send them the Primaris from the kit.

They’ll honestly just be gathering dust for me.

[viral sapphire]

if i was to get into the tabletop i would probobly make a traitor guardsmen army as i think they look the best so its cool to see the community pick uo where gw wont

[tiny jay]

Not yet, best we can gather is what we assume are PDF Color’s from the NPC’s in game. Which seem to be Grey/Navy Blue.

[tawdry quartz]

hopefully soon we can get somethin better than just screenshots

[tiny jay]

Im undecided if I’m gonna include the Hazard Stripes on my Moebian 6th. I will be doing some russet/full red markings on shock troops/close combat troops. Not sure what I’m going to do for armor flares/insignia. Even if I’ll be covering them with chaos bits and weathering the old insignia. The Ogryn Bulwarks have a few red marks on them that look more official.

Also I kind of feel with Red/Glowing Red/Green and The dull grey, black and brown of armor and gear is enough Color’s.

[viral sapphire]

ive seen some videos of kitbashing traitor guard and god they look dope and probobly what i would play if i got into the tabletop

[tiny jay]

I started Loyalist Death Guard back on high school. Then promptly forgot about warhammer. Then I started reading Dan Abnett’s tanith stuff.

Blood pact got me interested in traitor guard. Then Darktide made me take the plunge.

[viral sapphire]

ye i would get into it bust sweet lord its so expenisve

[tiny jay]

If your willing to print it can help soften the cost a bit. It’s what I’m doing.

[viral sapphire]

i dont have a 3d printer

sadly

[tiny jay]

You can find printed stuff on Etsy.

[viral sapphire]

probobly

[silent pasture]

putting the arms on this gunner is difficult

[silent pasture]

Finally

[pastel grotto]

At lasg

Finally finished assembling the box set

[dry torrent]

Heretic all and poxwalker

[dry torrent]

Wtf is the strange two laser turret

[rare hornet]

Have you mounted 2 las cannons to the rocket artillery base?

[silent pasture]

ROCKET LAWNCHA

[silent pasture]

Lmao Las artillery

[rare hornet]

It looks funky

Quite cool actually

[pastel grotto]

Yes.

Because fuck you

Twin links your lascannon

[rare hornet]

Okay, while it’s pointed down that goes very cool

[silent pasture]

I miss twin linked

[pastel grotto]

The ideas that whilst one cannon shoots the other cannon cools down from shooting

I imagine lascannons get very fucking hot

[rare hornet]

Well one end gets much hotter than the other

[pastel grotto]

Yeah and I don't want to melt it

[tiny jay]

Rule of cool wins regardless.

[lilac moth]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-everything-star-trek-nero-eric-bana-gif-16320735

as if there was any other plan of action in the grim dark

[inland pier]

I love that kitbash idea

[vivid rune]

Dagger done

[lilac moth]

I was so damn confused trying to identify the helmet

"wait, how did he make the eye holes see thru like that?!"

[vivid rune]

I paint helms seperately, there is no helmet

[lilac moth]

Ye at first i thought the holes in the neck plate thingy were the eyes

[rare hornet]

Unless you just used invisible paint?

[lilac moth]

dont think ork logic with purple works

[rare hornet]

Seems to be working so far

[lilac moth]

fucking purple orc inside a suit of armor and everyone just thinks its possessed or something

[vivid rune]

I do like the idea of taking some bases and basing them nice and pretty with some purple painted ork foot prints on the base

Proxy commandos for super cheap

[lilac moth]

Gotta do ork army like that at some point

Just all out purple orcs

a.k.a bases with purple footprints and maybe some purple glow effect

Possibly even orc shadows if i manage to figure out how to do that properly

All fun and games until i deploy a Stompa looking shadow in the middle of my ork shadow army

[brazen silo]

This was from awhile ago but here is one of my plague marines

[lilac moth]

Why does it give so much steampunk vibes 😮

thats heresy

[brazen silo]

It was pointed out to me after i painted it but i like it

[lilac moth]

its nice.

[brazen silo]

I have no clue what you mean by that lol

[lilac moth]

Full on steampunk plague marine squadron would be epic 😄

[brazen silo]

Im not a heretic i swear

[lilac moth]

says the motherfucker posting pics of his fingers

"im not a heretic"

[brazen silo]

Thats what im going for

[lilac moth]

need to add some steam effects to some of them

packbacks pushing out steam from the back or something

So i quess now your only choice left is to invent a small enough fog machine that you can hide it in the base

[brazen silo]

These are gonna be my poxwalkers

Not as cool thematic wise

[brazen silo]

Ill look into it

[ebon panther]

Bought the custody battleforce. Gotta say. These guys are a pain to put the weapons on for me.

[muted token]

Not to be rude or anything, I like the colour scheme, but you might need to thin your paints more

A couple of thinner coats will look better than one kinda thick one

Also I can't tell if that's been primed? I'm kinda colourblind so the weapon looks unprimed to me, primer is super important for painting miniatures

[grave vessel]

Seems unprimed but

Looks fine to me tbh

Needs some touch ups here and there but

The coverage is fine

[muted token]

It just seems kinda lumpy goopy to me but, my eyes are dogshit

[lilac moth]

how "bad" should the first coat look?

Like barely any color sticking or?

[muted token]

Like, Kinda

Tinted

Semi opaque

[lilac moth]

New to this and trying to get better at thinning my shit

[muted token]

In my opinion

[lilac moth]

Feels like there is 2 modes on my paints, 1 layer and done or "its droplets of color for you motherfucker"

[muted token]

No matter how many thin layers you do, it will always preserve more detail on the sculpt than thick paint

What are you doing to thin them?

Also, if you struggle thinning paints, Contrast paints are legit amazing

[lilac moth]

Water or lahmian

[muted token]

Don't need to thin them at all

[lilac moth]

Still on the newbie experimenting stage

[muted token]

Prime it white with pretty much any matte finish white spray paint > apply contrast > profit

No no it's cool I was just trying to give tips

I've only been doing this like

Jesus 20 odd years

remembers she's old

[lilac moth]

Ye my first marine turned out "super okish" for a single coat with high focus on small details, but after that i have been trying to get better at thinning my shit

[muted token]

Like 1 part paint 2-3 parts water

on a pallate

pallet?

Spelling

is the mix I use for acrylics but your mileage may differ depending on the brand

[lilac moth]

But still managed to fuck up and even tho i thought i did super thinning (IMO), 1 coat was enough for the base color

[muted token]

Black will pretty much always be a one coat wonder

White will take literally years

[lilac moth]

smurfmarines ftw

[muted token]

Honestly custodes are probably a good thing to learn painting on

their models have decent detail on the insignias and stuff and they're pretty big minis

[lilac moth]

Got the elite starter box and few small boxes of random marines and now went to buy paints and somehow came out with kill team in to the dark box

So now working on learning the painting tricks on my marines before going for a legit go with the kill team box

[muted token]

I don't buy GW models since I got a 3d printer to be fair

I've just finished my Sisters of battle army and I'm thinking I might try Harlequins

Space clowns sound cool

But, damn are they going to be an arseache to paint with the checker patterns and stuff

[lilac moth]

Im pretty damn torn between smurfmarines / nekrons

Kinda wanting to do some chaos marines

[muted token]

Necrons are hands down

The simplest army to paint ever

[lilac moth]

"just prime it chaos black and go to town with silver drybrush" lol

[muted token]

You can do 80% of the work with a can of leadbelcher spray paint

Spray > paint guns and bits

Ta-da Necrons

Apply nuln oil liberally

[lilac moth]

TBH like 80% of the paint time on nekrons has been fucking around with hextech glow thingy on the small cracks

[muted token]

Wanna know a secret tip

That you must never tell anyone because it's MLG 420 1337 SKILLZ BRUH

[lilac moth]

inb4 heresy

[muted token]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Painting-Ceramic-Acrylic-Markers-Extra-fine/dp/B07D61XNF8/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=56022844209&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtICdBhCLARIsALUBFcHuL5FKlG88wqzvZ6YHSllSKQtDqnuM_ligON4mHfPjM8uBA98c6jAaAqxDEALw_wcB&hvadid=259119645493&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9045735&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=18336409692532642723&hvtargid=kwd-329722366004&hydadcr=18509_1816613&keywords=acrylic+paint+pens&qid=1671480475&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

Are the best thing if you get ones with really thin nibs

[lilac moth]

hmm

[muted token]

Makes doing all the trims and detailing and stuff super easy

[lilac moth]

gotta go raid the 180€ case of professional level pens like those i got for my wife 😄

[muted token]

I literally use gold and silver sharpie for trim

If you spray them with a clear matte varnish afterwards

Nobody, will ever, know

[lilac moth]

I kinda like using a brush for the effect of the glow bleeding outside of the cracks and what not

[muted token]

I'd use contrast paints for that

Contrasts can dry kinda semi transparent if you mix it with medium

[lilac moth]

I tested contrast on 2 of my smurfs

Not sure i liked it

Tho im sure it will change with time

Takes a special kind of lunatic to pick a hobby like this at 32years old with a demanding job and a 3 year old daughter

Prior painting or miniature building of "fucking nothing"

[muted token]

I really like Army Painter's Speedpaints

They're apparently going to be doing metalic speedpaint soon

which, mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHRPUoPHrF8

[dry torrent]

Army painter ?

Is one of the wrost paint brand

[muted token]

I like Army Painter

[dry torrent]

[muted token]

They've never done me wrong and I've been using them for literally years

[dry torrent]

Good for you

[muted token]

Why do you not like them?

[dry torrent]

Because the quality is bad Just that

[muted token]

Descriptive, I can tell you are someone who it's really easy to have a discussion with

Thanks for playing though

Oh also @lilac moth Vallejo do a range of paints called colour shifters or something? they're super good for power weapons in my experience

They kinda shift colour and hue as they catch light

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thanks-thank-you-so-much-keanu-reeves-gif-21952233

[indigo cosmos]

First ever mini I have painted, went with a forest theme for this guy (and the rest of the army)

Should I make the blue darker?

[floral wind]

I like it how it is. All of it actually well done

[indigo cosmos]

Also I hate purity seals

[muted token]

In my opinion the gun is fine but the backpack could do with a little darker

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-confused-face-what-wait-gif-24734187

[muted token]

Plasma kinda of needs to be bright

[floral wind]

Highlighting will fix that

[dry torrent]

Are you aware that it's by telling someone what's wrong that he doesn't improve by telling him that it's good when he's not?

[floral wind]

Im merely crediting for a job well done overall I never said it was perfect

[dry torrent]

the best is to help him improve not act as if it was good

[floral wind]

Well yh but I didnt have to tell him if someone already had

[dry torrent]

[floral wind]

^ ergo I didnt have to tell him

[indigo cosmos]

Don’t worry, I know it’s bad and I can only improve it. But I also got two of my friends roped in to this too, so I’m going to make fun of them and there paint jobs. One is getting custodies and the other is getting tyranids

[floral wind]

Exactly but again great job overall :3

[silent pasture]

leagues better than my first model

[proud pawn]

My kitbashed poxguard leader

[fair fulcrum]

That face is hilarious due to the bloated neck
I love it

[normal patrol]

Real Baron Harkonnen vibes from that one for sure

[proud pawn]

blowfishman

[tame igloo]

Anyone know a cheap source of pink insulation foam. Or any foam thats good for making hills

[silent pasture]

Finally

[carmine blaze]

**Getting into warhammer minis and building a Black Templar army, are the bladeguard veterans any good? **

[bold copper]

Very

They are a very good elites choice for any space marine army. Black Templars especially so

[quiet stump]

ok so have they already stopped selling the kasrkin and phobos killteams? or are they not available

cant see them on GW

[tacit lichen]

The latest Kill Teams and Warcry Warbands aren't for sale out of the debut box until the one after is released.

[quiet stump]

so im unable to get them

[tacit lichen]

As for the phobos: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/kill-team-phobos-strike-team-2022

[quiet stump]

cause i was gonna start painting again and was gonna do killteam but i couldnt see the boxes i wanted

oh their killteam tab for searching doesnt show em

and when are the new astra models coming?

[warped token]

The fourth of The Blackwatch added to the fold

[carmine blaze]

Word word, don't have any of the game books so didn't know the full extent of usefulness yet lol

[warped token]

you can buy halves on /r minisawp and stuff pretty easily, but yeah, you cant just buy the unit box on its own yet

[muted token]

There's a bunch of websites that sell specific sprues or even just bits of sprues if you just want the dudes

[desert drum]

Finished this tonight

[shut cove]

Finally got into tabletop 40k and had a blast painting this Leman Russ.

[warped token]

My. Dude.

[warped token]

This slaps. Great use of plants

[slender zodiac]

bushy :)

[merry pawn]

You are a paint god

[zinc turret]

the whole Kill Team...

[pine yacht]

that sword looks sick!

love that design

[quiet stump]

given that its blood ravens i feel like they stole them chainswords from iron warriors

[brazen silo]

Holy, wow

I quit painting

That’s really fucking good

[barren vessel]

another gaslands car, not 40 but still minis

[slender zodiac]

shhhh dont tell the resident IW fan that 🤫

[quiet stump]

iron warriors are the best traitor legion

Death Guard close second

dead last is emperors children

[slender zodiac]

you forgot the word bearers for last cause theyre so forgetable

[quiet stump]

True

But then emperors children

Pretentious knob headed legion

[prime scarab]

In terms of battle doctrine and the kind of warfare they do, I do think the Iron Warriors are great.

But I personally have a certain dislike for Perturabo

[slender zodiac]

think thats most IW fans

[quiet stump]

Well let’s be honest all of the traitor primarchs are rather naff and a few loyal ones are too but they’re either MIA or dead

[slender zodiac]

likes the competent chaos marines and their tactics
but hate the perpetulant manchild

[quiet stump]

Iron warriors are just superior imperial fists but sadly they traitors

You seen the eddy gonz art for iron warriors?

I like seeing space marines using actual tactics

[prime scarab]

At least with the Death Guard, Mortarion cares for his sons

But we all hate that jackass Typhus

One of the things I liked about the Death Guard was their drinking tradition.

[quiet stump]

I do actually feel bad for the thousand sons

[prime scarab]

Mortarion would offer up really really toxic booze to a soldier as a sign of great respect

And as a reminder of how enduring they are in the midst of great adversities

[quiet stump]

More tactics from space marines and less charging at the enemy cause they tanky

I asked him if we would see him do tau art since we honestly don’t get much tau and there me has are cool af

He came back a month later with this

[reef skiff]

Someone hates rock and roll

[opal flicker]

hello? alpha legion?

[quiet stump]

I said traitor legion 😎

[opal flicker]

[quiet stump]

They do have a cool aesthetic tho I just like the practicality of the iron warriors and that they just constantly shit on the imperial fists

I don’t even dislike the imperial fists it’s just funny they’re the polar opposite of the ultramarines

[rare hornet]

I heard Iron Warriors I got here as fast as I could

[quiet stump]

I showed IW art enjoy

[rare hornet]

That’s literally my computer wallpaper

[prime scarab]

Hehe Iron Warriors got amazing weapons

[rare hornet]

IW are the best

[prime scarab]

Hell, their Horus Heresy versions got amazing exclusive (I think they are) weapons

[quiet stump]

Sadly he’s taking a break from drawing for a bit I think

[rare hornet]

Yes they got shrapnel weapons

[prime scarab]

and their battle automata

[rare hornet]

Which Perturabo can take as a retinue if you bring enough

[prime scarab]

mhmm.

I still love the Death Guard 30k version

[rare hornet]

Fair enough

[prime scarab]

I think one of the things I love about em are their simplicity

They can do well with the bare minimum given in HH

[quiet stump]

They got unique weapons??

[rare hornet]

I love the fact Perturabo can ‘theoretically’ kill a landraider with his bare hands thanks to the rule of +1 strength against vehicles

[prime scarab]

Their tyrant siege termies look awesome

[rare hornet]

Absolutely

[prime scarab]

everyone has a cyclone missile launcher mounted on em

[quiet stump]

If I made a IW army I’d have to use 30k models the traitor marines models in 40k don’t fit the IW aesthetic to spikey and such less practical than the IW are

[prime scarab]

I still love the Grave Wardens and Deathshroud though

[rare hornet]

I’ll show you what I have when I get out the car

[prime scarab]

If I were you Redcoat, give the spikey bits to the Chosen

while the regular Legionaries just 30k stuff

[naive umbra]

That's beautiful. Makes it harder and harder to resist picking up a Ta'unar

[prime scarab]

Makes it easier to identify

[quiet stump]

My first army will be Astra tho

[prime scarab]

Ah which regiment?

[quiet stump]

But I’m gonna start on kill team

[prime scarab]

Cadia, I assume?

[quiet stump]

I dunno tbh I need to look at the new rules for the regiments

Cause I do like kasrkin and cadia but also I love the steel legion

[prime scarab]

I am thinking of investing in a game board

I intend to make it very Nurgle-centric because I wanna bring people over to my house to play

[quiet stump]

But yeah I’m gonna start on killteam need to practice my painting

And get into the board game easier

[prime scarab]

I expect to put in lots of those Nurgle trees and chimneys

so give or take 5 of each?

5 Feculent Gnarlmaws and 5 Miasmic Malignifiers

[naive umbra]

The best thing about kill teams imo is they give you cooler looking versions of regular 40k units you can still use for 40k.

I'm not planning to play Kill Team, but still getting the Kill Team Pathfinders for my T'au army coz they have way cooler looking face/gear options than the regular Pathfinder box

[quiet stump]

While I love how tau mechs look I won’t be building an army of it since they’re just not my play style

Id rather use Astra

Don’t forget it only takes 180 guardsmen to keep angron occupied for 6 turns

[brazen notch]

Thats only 0.01th of a regiment, send in more

[quiet stump]

The others are committed to bayonet charging berserkers

[slender zodiac]

fuck it
send in the baneblade to keep angron occupied

[quiet stump]

The 180 guardsmen are keeping him occupied so that I can spend 5 turns trying to get the dice roll I need to hit angron with my shadowsword

[slender zodiac]

mood

[quiet stump]

Sadly can’t get steel legion models anymore

[brazen notch]

Until they become a kill team set

[slender zodiac]

i want my tallran inf models

[quiet stump]

I would argue that cadia, Krieg and steel legion are the big 3 regiments

So after the new cadia units we could see new steel legion ones

[slender zodiac]

ignores catachan

ok

you know

the ones that also have models?

reallt bad ones?

[bold solstice]

catachans having plastics while other regiments get ignored is one of 40k's bad jokes

this does make me weirdly hopeful we get steel legion though

we were supposed to get 1 more regiment according to rumors

[rare hornet]

@quiet stump 30k Iron Warrior

[slender zodiac]

brother in christ we will get the second coming of jesus before anyone but catachan gets a full new lineup

catachan NEEDS a revamp

[bold solstice]

catachan are a meme regiment

[slender zodiac]

so are kreigers
or steel
or vostroyan

[bold solstice]

I usually don't want a plastic kit squatted but come the fuck on

nah all of those have their own identity

Catachan are just a rambo joke that somehow got plastics

they're not even really distinct from cadians

their selling point is checks notes

muscles

and pants

that's literally it

[slender zodiac]

kreigers: ww1 trench soldiers
vostroyan: russians in space
steel legion: kreigers 2 but with cars

[bold solstice]

nah the only thing kriegers share with steel legion is both are technically coat wearing and both have some form of mask

they haven't had much in common since the origin as a palette swap

Vostoroyans are honestly 30k Imperial Army rep/ornate armor space russians

all of those have more character than catachans

For catachans to be a good choice of regiment they'd need to be completely redesigned tbh

It's not impossible it'd just mean new sculpts with very little in common with the old

[slender zodiac]

what are you on
they just need a face revamp and more polygons added

you can still easily make them space aussie rambos

[bold solstice]

Catachan flavors are

literally just wifebeater wearing muscle men

sleeveless cadian flak and pants

and that's kinda it

Given GW's stellar decision making it's not impossible they decide to base a whole squad on that concept but it really adds less variety than other regiments would

[slender zodiac]

as opposed to
gas mask trench coat steel #1
gas mask trench coat steel #2
gas mask trench coat steel #3?

[bold solstice]

adds less variation than all those yes

Death Korps is a hideous regiment but has a large fanbase and is very distinct

[slender zodiac]

im talking about steel legion

[bold solstice]

Steel Legion adds a more traditional greatcoat and carbine styles, and honestly has a lot more kitbash potential than Kriegers. Stands out quite well from both of the other regiments.

Look if we got new catachans I would not be shocked if they basically ditched the older vibe

in favor of something like this

The problem with catachans is that no one actually asked for MUSCLEMEN memes, they just...existed because of bad decisions made way back when

at least the shovel stupidity was popular

[slender zodiac]

so let me get this straight
the regiment that has some variety and some difference from other regiments shouldn't get revamped because theyre not distinct
vs
the regiment that all look the same and look very much like kreigers should because they're unique

[bold solstice]

I mean what variety, half their aesthetic was literally 1:1 cadian anyway

and the other half isn't the sort of thing GW would go for these days ie: literally just a shirt

[rare hornet]

How have you been arguing over this for 20 minutes?

[slender zodiac]

because this is insane
hes making no sense whatsoever

[slender zodiac]

compared to the yellow trenchcoat and german helm steel legion and the gray trenchcoat german helm kreigers?

[bold solstice]

Kriegers exist because there is a fandom for them from memes

and they are in fact meaningfully distinct in a way that- unfortunately- was popular

[slender zodiac]

why do you think GW still sells catachans all these years? cause people buy them

[bold solstice]

not really TBH

[slender zodiac]

all other regiments got the axe

[bold solstice]

they're basically an appendix

Yes because for some reason they got plastics

Like I have literally never seen anyone else buy a Catachan squad lol

[slender zodiac]

cause their models are ass

[bold solstice]

you're welcome for me grabbing a Catachan command for bits and regretting it 🤣

Yes.

[slender zodiac]

they need a revamp cause of this

[bold solstice]

They need to be squatted cause of this

I mean

let's be real, fixing them effectively is replacing them with something that shares a name

But the aesthetic just doesn't really work

[prime scarab]

I honestly can't imagine an army of John Rambos just charging ahead

[proper canopy]

If you made a boxed set of Catachan vs tyranids, it'd sell, updating gaunts and the jungle fighters.

[prime scarab]

They are good at guerilla warfare. Letting the enemy come to them and they pick em off one by one

[bold solstice]

Guerilla vibes might sell

but a faithful recreation of the catachans would get laughed out of stores

[slender zodiac]

youre actually insane

if you think that

people would be ecstatic to get updated catachan models

[bold solstice]

This is not the face of return on investment tbh

[proper canopy]

Post the one of the guy knifing an orc.

[slender zodiac]

wrong copy and paste

LOOK AT THIS

this you can buy

[bold solstice]

in one of the inexplicable facts of the hobby yes

[proper canopy]

it's from what, 1994?

[bold solstice]

Honestly these guys needed to go more than Mutilators did 🤣

[slender zodiac]

theyre ooooooold yeah

[slender zodiac]

actually insane if you think catachan should be squatted and not steel legion

only reason why steel legion is known is cause orks

and world eaters

[bold solstice]

catachan has negative aesthetic potential

[bold solstice]

Steel legion has much more use for conversions and visually works better as its own thing than a bunch of catachans

You can't seriously tell me you think a bunch of those on a tabletop would look great

[slender zodiac]

if updated

yes

[bold solstice]

I mean unless you're converting gangers or something

[rare hornet]

I mean, the Vietnam vibe would be cool

[bold solstice]

A nam vibe could work

[slender zodiac]

they'll look much better then yellow kreigers

[naive umbra]

They'd just look like a vietnam war army imo, I don't see much controversial with that as the aesthetic

[rare hornet]

Valkyrie or two and maybe a hellhound would work well for them

[proper canopy]

Actually good looking models

[rare hornet]

Maybe make them like ork kommandos? Where they benefit in melee while in cover?

[slender zodiac]

compared to what i sent?
yeah
theres potential here

they NEEED update

[naive umbra]

I'd love to see a whole army of just Carl Weathers Catas

[rare hornet]

I like the look of krieg because it goes well as an alternative model for cultists for the Iron Warriors

[slender zodiac]

i do believe every regiment should get a updated inf squad
however the 3 armies i fully believe that should have a full line
cadia, catachans and kreigers

[bold solstice]

Catachans are an appendix set

[proper canopy]

Would people be ecstatic if they got a revamp? no. Would it be a nice choice apart from only Cadians? Yes.

[bold solstice]

a kill team/squad is already pushing the amount of support that's warranted/there's demand for

Like hell I've seen more demand for krieg grenadiers

[slender zodiac]

at least for a limited production run

[bold solstice]

than there have ever been catachan fans

(don't confuse that with me liking krieg grenadiers)

(far as I'm concerned the krieg line is an eyesore that happens to have some nice lasgun bits 🤣 )

[proper canopy]

If Krieg had the model support forgeworld gave them, there'd be more fans for it.

[bold solstice]

nah lol

[slender zodiac]

oh and not steel legion? that look almost the same?

[bold solstice]

They don't look the same lol

that's the cheapest form of meme

[slender zodiac]

i said almost

[bold solstice]

the coats, weaponry, aesthetics are different eras and vibes, only thing they have in common is they both have some form of coat and some form of mask

sure there's a bit of trivia about shared origins but that's it

[slender zodiac]

heres 2 models

[rare hornet]

Immediate foxhole vibes

[slender zodiac]

looks similar

[bold solstice]

Cool you found the model that doesn't actually represent their default look

nice work

[slender zodiac]

aight
show me a model then

of steel legion

official

actually dont know if these are official myself :)

[rare hornet]

To be fair, I think all regiments should get updated models

[proper canopy]

All Regiments? 😂

[bold solstice]

let's be real mordians are ideal upgrade kit fodder

[slender zodiac]

yes

limited production run

[bold solstice]

tbh if we're just talking favorite regiments in general

bitter as hell about Elysians

since no one can seriously argue the current range has any counterparts

[slender zodiac]

yeah elysies are pretty unique

[proper canopy]

They don't have any counterpoints because they don't exist anymore.

[bold solstice]

they haven't been killed in lore

so GW may milk the cash cow someday...

[proper canopy]

what was the time gap between squats and votann 30 years or so? 😂

[rare thicket]

Space Wolves Killteam complete

[slender zodiac]

wuffen

[rare hornet]

That one man is the kill team

[slender zodiac]

the rest are drunk

so they sent him out

[rare thicket]

He's the sober driver

[rare hornet]

You mean soberest driver

[rare thicket]

True

[slender zodiac]

the good enough driver

[rare thicket]

The lighting is really bad, but here's the rest

The non-sober ones

[slender zodiac]

looking good

sadly they get bs and ws +5

[rare hornet]

They do get a -1 damage in return however

[slender zodiac]

and t 10

[rare hornet]

And a 5+ FNP

[slender zodiac]

3" charge tho

can barely stand

[rare hornet]

I feel that a drunk space marine would be the most terrifying thing to exist

Can’t hit for shit

But can’t process pain in the slightest

[naive umbra]

I'm still more afraid of what they have in space than what they have on the ground. One second you're enjoying the sun, next your whole planet is glass

Although I suppose these boys would be more likely to call an Exterminatus while on a bender and not remember doing it the next morning

[rare hornet]

I’m pretty certain the SW dropped an orbital space port on a hive city because it was easier than trying to break through the city’s defences

[prime scarab]

I think it would be a non Space Wolf Astartes drinking Mjod for the first time

[azure fulcrum]

Sgt Avery Johnson has come a long way since Halo

[raven stratus]

Finished the regular marine to go with my chaos marine, will probably refine the freehanding a bit once everything dries

[tiny jay]

Nitro Riders vibes.

[brazen notch]

If youre asking Astartes for help, I think you know things are gonna go 0 to 100 fast, and you have no choice but to nod and say thank you milord

[rare hornet]

You know the rules, don’t do anything in halves

[brazen notch]

A guardsman seeing the Fire Lords chapter bombarding and orbital saturation bomb the city for a 30 minute window for entry
: Amazing tactics milord, I expected nothing less from the sons of Holy Praetorian

[tiny jay]

If they had to produce only one. I'd rather it be Steel Legion. Just because steel legion uses standard lasguns. The only issue I have with Krieg Models if being used for something else is your stuck with Lucius Lasguns. Same issue I've got with the blooded, I really wish they weren't Lucius Lasguns XD

[bold solstice]

sadly Kriegers exist

so yeah the dream is for steel legion to exist too later

[tiny jay]

That said, I think the Kill-Team approach is the way to go for adding specialist regiments into the lineup.

All In all I'm pretty happy with the mix of Stationforge and Blooded models I've got on order for my Moebians, Found some (totally legit, not sketchy chinese webstore at all) Greater Blight Drones for fast attack and my old Basilisks I had from when I was building Loyalist Death Guard should be fine.

Though I like the Armageddon Pattern ones more. So I might try to convert them into something simmilar for a 'Moebian' Pattern.

[plush swift]

I mean...
When it comes from IG regiments, my go-to is to yarr, because no way in hell I'm paying FW's prices
Plus there's tons of proxys around, even if I have no 3d printer

[tiny jay]

Yarr?

I also found some good proxy prints for Leman Russes, and a place I can order Demolisher Turrets from.

Or just not even bother.

[median thistle]

well now I want that tank for when I eventually make a genestealer cult army into a chaos cult army

[naive umbra]

Assembled my Breacher Team Shas'ui tonight. Made a slight booboo attaching the pulse blaster hand first, then realising the pistol hand didn't fit properly, had to adjust a few things but nothing some filing and paint won't disguise

[plush swift]

pirating, using illegal means, however you want to call it

[rare hornet]

Space pirates

[lilac moth]

One day i will be good enough that i can just straight up craft a titan with my 3d pen 😄

and i hope it will be before i just go out and buy one...

[bold solstice]

Let's be real, anyone that yarrs has probably already paid their pound of flesh to GW

[lilac moth]

pretty hard to fully pay the infinite price tag

[rare hornet]

The flesh is weak

[viscid totem]

Hello, what the hell is this

[lilac moth]

heretical meat sandwich

[pastel grotto]

Foxhole fans when they see a bunker base irl

[edgy jackal]

That's something I expected to see from drukhari, not necromunda

[naive umbra]

Looks like they'd make a good cape. They're already cape shaped

[hearty bear]

FELLOW FOXHOLE ENJOYER

[muted token]

Someone asked me what I think the worst miniature GW have ever done is

https://prnt.sc/2tWCcoasPLkj Magnus the red who is blue

[hearty bear]

Please tell me that’s first edition

[muted token]

Like, somewhere between first and third?

It just sticks in my mind because, well "Magnus the red who is blue"

[hearty bear]

Marcus the blue

[lilac moth]

There has to be some even worse model

Thats just shit, but i am sure there is some absolutely horrible to be found

[hazy meadow]

Is this good enough for a larger scale Mini?

(Mortarion)

Or should I hold out for my citadel glue to come in

[rare hornet]

A brush on glue would be your best best

Tamiya extra thin cement is a good one to use, the brush gives you more control and less likely to get glue on your hands

[median thistle]

^

[muted token]

Oh there are for sure, I kinda half love that model because it's magnus the red who is blue

[lilac moth]

orks and orcs dont count because they look like something dripping out of a shitdemons ass anyway

[muted token]

New orks are alright

Old orks, suck

[lilac moth]

orks are orks

[tiny jay]

My issue with people who gatekeep against 3d prints and recasts is their defences don’t make any sense. “Recasting and printing out of production or limited models devalues my collection!” Then keep a receipt or the original box or something to prove your items are original and authentic. “I don’t want to see poor quality models” 3d prints have long since proven that insane detail can be achieved. “People bring unpainted printed armies” people do that with GW plastic too.

On the flip side, it counters fomo and for a game where you need models to field different units in the rules. Having a limited/low production/discontinued/super expensive model is a barrier to entry for using said unit in the game and borders on p2w behavior.

[plush swift]

i just hope the sizes of the minis, like the size of a human to a space marine to whatever is kinda more fixed now and stuff like that

scale issues resolved etc

[tiny jay]

Like, I wanted some fast attack for my Moebians and decided I didn’t want bikes, so I looked at the bloat drones and honestly they didn’t fit the style of my army. But the Greater Blight Drone looks much more subdued.

[tiny jay]

I mean the scale is all over the place, it’s kind of one reason I don’t mind primaris.

[plush swift]

yeah this is my thing, i dont mind them being imperfect but i like the primaris being bigger the 28mm bases to the 25 is nice imo

[tiny jay]

Land raiders, baneblades should be wayyyy bigger.

[plush swift]

i just bought a whole fuckin imperium army and i like the new stuff, idk i guess i dont have a choice in liking it haha i meani bought it but yeah

[plush swift]

tru

[tiny jay]

Guard generally should be smaller.

[plush swift]

... idk about WAY bigger but bigger ye

i dont mind all the guard being 6ft tall lol

maybe eldar should be taller

[tiny jay]

End of the day I just treat it as a representation of the unit.

[plush swift]

ogryns are bigger than terminators... is that right??? lol

like is that correct? idk fuck it it they look cool i guess

[tiny jay]

No idea. I know Ogryn are a match for Astartes.

[atomic rose]

They actualy are. They would probably win a fist fight against a space marine.

[tiny jay]

But like, just in brute strength.

[plush swift]

ah ok, yeah i thought so but like damn my bullgryns are HUGE

[atomic rose]

They are dumb like a sack of bricks, but they will rip a space marine in half.

[tiny jay]

Kind of a case that it’s all over when the Ogryn gets ahold of you. Like a human getting grabbed by an Orangutan that meant harm. But like, the Astartes can likely put up a fight through skill.

[plush swift]

yeah i mean a SM would think their way though an ogryn

i would love to see two ogryns vs a custodes

[atomic rose]

That hugely depends on the author of a book, but generaly custodes would win without issues.

But custodes differ in power greatly depending on the book.

[tiny jay]

And so do Ogryns.

The Chimera thing being a good example.

[plush swift]

on a side note: i rewatched that Bricky on 40k Factions video and was glad to see there was a kind of Custodes that do leave their posts to look after target individuals and its rad for my idea of having a dwarf commander have some custodes be his second line of bodyguards lol

if i cant use my imagination a bit with this game ill just lose interest

[atomic rose]

If Custodes are what they are supposed to be, you know - handcrafted works of art, custodian would win without any issue.

He would probably win before the ogryns even realized what is going on.

[plush swift]

probably, i like the custodes stuff tbh im glad you can have these insane units on the field, back in the day they didnt rly exist and i kinda stopped collecting when the modern version of necrons came out in like the early 2000s

[formal lichen]

Me first ork boi

[muted token]

Waaaaaaagh etc, I personally prefer my orks to be a touch darker as that skin tone makes them look like underripe bananas, what warband is it

[muted token]

Just to add to this, I 3d print pretty much everything and people are super impressed with the models and think they're really cool until they hear I didn't pay an outrageous amount of money for it.

I honestly think because 40k can be expensive some people get upset with people for not having to pay as much to get what they have which is sad, 3d prints encourage a lot of diversity in sculpts of models so even if you play Vs some army, you might see a different model that is similar but unique

Like this is my warboss with a kombi flamer and I think big choppa?

Can't remember if it's a normal choppa or big

[plush swift]

I have no problem with 3d printing, I just wish I wasnt banned from every GW around me for having 3d printed basing materials

This is the main issue, GW is the gatekeeper.

[muted token]

I honestly want GW to embrace 3d printing instead of resisting it

Just do STLs of individual models

[lilac moth]

Sell the STL...s

[muted token]

Like 1 Ork Boy for a couple of quid

[plush swift]

They wont, Ive been in the investor meetings before

[muted token]

Or terrain and stuff, so many people would get into the hobby with 3d printing

I know they won't but I'd love them to, I wanna use my depth guard at a GT (I found a whole lot of like, sunken diver kinda big daddy from bioshock death guard STLs)

[plush swift]

They have have no fear of 3d printing because they can force tournaments and their stores to ban it, plus they have no problems with DMCA claims

[lilac moth]

Gibe cthulhu cultist in tournament play...

[muted token]

And they're super cool! It would really impress people and they can still be wysiwyg

[plush swift]

The primary investors all want them to DMCA files and think if they do this, the will be no pushback from 3d printing as they still think its expensive

The main investor is a hedge fund and real-estate company and they are nothing but issues for the player base

[oak juniper]

Yikes

[plush swift]

since they own I believe 10% of the company, they do nothing but scream

[oak juniper]

Ngl yeah I honestly wish they'd just release STLs. I post my models on Instagram but I haven't been able to post in a while since models cost so much.

[lilac moth]

fucking make STLs of invidual parts and sell those at the normal GW "fuck you" monies

[oak juniper]

Either that or they make the product cheaper. I mean more people in the bracket to afford GW models is good for the hobby right? More people going to tourneys and building armies and such?

[atomic rose]

Lol, they have no reason to release 3D printable files, as long as everyone keeps buying their plastic.

[lilac moth]

Just a fist of space marine? Fucking 5€ go for it

[muted token]

I got my printer for like 800 quid, and I've printed like 4 armies andspent maybe 200 or 300 on resin, it works out super cheap

But honestly, I'm learning blender again to model and print my first "One of a kind" army, I want some bioshock esque knights

[plush swift]

Which reminds me, I need to make some custom knight heads in blender

[oak juniper]

I've been trying to get into Fusion360. Is Blender better for making models?

[atomic rose]

Except there is an army of people who fill buy a sprue full of them for 40 bucks. Why would they sell you an .stl for 5.

[lilac moth]

inb4 GW invents a single use STL

[plush swift]

and record the entire process because turns out, the proof they want is an entire video of me doing it...

[muted token]

Gonna reply to both of you at once, if you want tips on 3d modelling I have a degree in game design

[oak juniper]

Oh sweet

[muted token]

So message me as I doubt most people here really, y'know, give a shit about this kinda thing

[lilac moth]

any tips on which printer to go for? Wifey is pushing me to finally buy one for us

[atomic rose]

That really depends on what your needs and expectations are.

[muted token]

I have an anycubic mono X 6k

[lilac moth]

Kinda want it for myself too due to it could making diorama stuff so much easier

[plush swift]

Sort of but not really? cad programs are all similar, the benefit of blender is that its free.

[oak juniper]

yeah this is great because I did want to know which program between Blender and F360 has more flexibility.

[plush swift]

mars 3

[atomic rose]

And be aware that 3D printing is a hobby in itself. Don't expect it to be just plug&play.

[muted token]

And that Ork I posted is the kinda quality you can expect

I think 6k is the sweet spot between quality and price

8k printers are kinda pricey and the quality jump isn't massive

[oak juniper]

That's a pretty good point. I mean F360 is free for hobbyists too. You just can't have more than 10 projects on the cloud at one time.

[muted token]

4k you'll lose some finer detail like spikes

[plush swift]

I'd rather just hire you do design it so i dont have to deal with moving stuff on my workbench so I can use zbrush

[oak juniper]

I have a Photon Mono that's kinda just collecting dust here. Maybe I should fire it up again.

[muted token]

Bold of you to assume I can afford a zbrush license

[oak juniper]

I mean by all means I would print an army, but I wouldn't really have much use for it since most of the people in the local community don't play against 3D printed stuff.

Which sucks ass

[plush swift]

Never said you needed to use zbrush, I have one because I need it for work

[muted token]

I misread that pretty hard didn't I

I'm going away for Christmas and New year tomorrow so I might not have a lot of time, but if you want to drop me a message with what you're looking for I'm taking my laptop and I'll see what I can do in my downtime

[plush swift]

Same, hence why I got 2 christmas boxes of knights

[oak juniper]

Well to be fair my girlfriend got me my HQ for my army this Christmas so I guess I'll finally have 500 pts come January lmao

[lilac moth]

the kill team in to the dark box is screaming at me louder by the day

[oak juniper]

Still sucks tho that I don't have the option to have the rest printed to get to 1500

[formal lichen]

No real warband as its kommando kill team, probably going to mix in some bad moons because i love yellow. Pondered over going dark and realistic but i always remember the traditional orks, i want vibrant crazy colours, kommandos dont have much armour so difficult pushing my beloved yellow onto them

[oak juniper]

or 2k

[oak juniper]

I wanted to get that box so bad but I think I'm gonna settle for the Octarius box

[plush swift]

probably wont beable to afford anything for a while, still paying off a huge medical bill

[lilac moth]

I went to buy couple paints and magnets and got the box by accident

[muted token]

Bold of you to assume I'm charging you

[plush swift]

Lucky that the knight boxes are over 1000 points each

[oak juniper]

This happens to me way too often but with Magic The Gathering. Walk into the store to buy card sleeves, next thing you know I have a whole box of other shit I didn't mean to buy

[oak juniper]

With any luck those boxes arrive to my country in February

[muted token]

Felt the need to post that atationforge set of darktide prints

[plush swift]

Well you know, Im a full time artist myself so I dont like to let other artist hang out to dry

[oak juniper]

I've been seeing them on my IG feed and I'm so tempted to get 'em

[muted token]

I don't want your money.

To put it bluntly

[lilac moth]

Easy solution for this, ART FOR ART

[muted token]

I have no interest in monetising a hovby

And turning it into a job

[plush swift]

if they arrive at all, the knight boxes almost definitely wont as they barely made it to mine

[lilac moth]

TFW there is 2 boxes of grey knights just sitting at my local miniature shop 😄

been kinda tempted to get 1

[plush swift]

that is honestly a very fair stance and I respect it heavily, I made the mistake of monetizing my hobby and its miserable

[muted token]

TFW people play grey knights

[lilac moth]

cool af

all i care about 😄

[muted token]

So message me with what you're looking for and I'll get to it when I get to it

[oak juniper]

I am in the same boat

[plush swift]

sounds good, i will once I have the idea laid out better in my head

[muted token]

I like 3d modelling, I just made a bunch of bolters with my sister's iconography

[oak juniper]

oh btw here's one of my models since I realized I haven't posted any of my work here yet lmao

[muted token]

"The bumble bitches" if you were wondering

Yellow black and bees all over

[oak juniper]

I would like to see these bumble bitches

[muted token]

When I get around to test printing I'll share

[oak juniper]

Sweet

[muted token]

Trying to think of a cool way to models queen bee Celestine

[oak juniper]

Anyway I'm gonna head off to bed I didn't realize it was 2:30 in the morning already

[muted token]

Beyond giving her a huuuuuuuuge asa

That reminds me, honeycomb base toppers

[oak juniper]

Turn the transparent stand into a jet stream of honey

[muted token]

The zephyrim stuff is either going to be vee riders or bee jetpack

Undecided

Once I've done more than just the boltguns might throw up the stls

[plush swift]

Why does no one make corpse stls? there are a few out there here and there but most are incredibly low poly and stupidly bad or they only sell prints and not the stls for them

[muted token]

I have a shit load

[lilac moth]

Would solve my need for mutilated civilian corpses

[muted token]

I'll look for them later if you remind me

[plush swift]

will do

[muted token]

I have literally about a terrabite of STLs

I'm a hoarder

[plush swift]

Same

I'm sitting at about 5tb myself

But I also make a lot of files for work

[muted token]

Need to step up my game

[plush swift]

Well when you have files that are 2-5gb and a few that are a few hundred, it adds up

[muted token]

How the fuck is one stl 5gb

Are you printing a building

None of mine are above like 300mb

And I've got an emp Titan to print

Things like 6 foot

[plush swift]

I do art conservation and we have a metal x for making specialized tools for the restoration sector

[muted token]

Oh I see

That actually sounds like interesting work

[plush swift]

ehh, its mostly sitting at a desk and playing games while the paint mixers are running

or you're doing research into some obscure artist to see if its worth the cost of a UVL coating

99% of the time, its not

[muted token]

Sounds more interesting than my job

I have a degree and I literally tell people to stop trying to clean the internals of their computers with vaccum cleaners

"no I can't fix your computer you vaccumed off your CPU, fuck out of my shop"

[plush swift]

I miss working pc repair

it paid better and I didnt have to explain 40 times a day why arsenic is deadly

yet some how they are curators

[muted token]

Why arsenic is deadly

[lilac moth]

at least you dont work at advanced medicine development lab... I swear my motto at work is "not my monkeys, not my circus..."

[muted token]

Look, this is how natural selection works

[plush swift]

thats my motto too. Just got blamed for someone getting lead poisoning from lead paint I made because they didnt know it had lead in it even though its called "cremitz white(lead white)" and has warning labels all over it

[lilac moth]

My team members were on the "evening shift" last night

They got out of the clean rooms this morning at around 8 when i went in for the morning shift

"Fun times"

[plush swift]

I love the medical field, its totally not over worked

[lilac moth]

We all know how fucked it is. They were doing the final filling and lets just say that GW prices are fucking pennies when we talk about this kinda shit

I think a single batch is well above couple mills

[plush swift]

"They make a dollar, I make a dime, thats why I have an onlyfans only 19.95"

[lilac moth]

The pay is ok. And 4 days ago i got to add "Was part of the team team that officially cured prostate cancer" to my CV which is ok-ish for future i think 😄

Barely above minimum wage and handling single use items costing 30k a pop

• the field/environment seems to attract warhammer players like crazy

Tomorrow is the start of our workplace bloodbowl league

[plush swift]

I work gladly work there than in my field, I just have to deal with insanely rich people who got their jobs in museums and what not through having lots of money.

[lilac moth]

Currently my biggest effort goes to pushing a kill team corner in to the board game evenings 😄

[plush swift]

They are unbearable to deal with, Im just lucky I get to openly insult them on the phone

because who else are they going to go to?

Do it

blood bowl is too jocky for me

[lilac moth]

Same

[plush swift]

I have only ever thrown a football once and I broke a window

[lilac moth]

Kill team might be perfect due to "simple" rules and faster matches. Might actually attract more people to wh40k and eventually get to push a full on 40k battlefield to the coffee room

[formal lichen]

Killteam got my wife interested in playing

[lilac moth]

thats my plan 😛

[formal lichen]

10 krieg soldiers and shes hooked

[lilac moth]

Gonna try to build that in to the dark box after a week or few

Gonna lean on the kroot for her

[formal lichen]

Kroot are nice mind, fun to paint too

[lilac moth]

All i know is she will go "DOGS!!!!" and i hope it distracts her long enough for her to actually find out she enjoys this shit

[plush swift]

killteam got me in, 9th killed my liking of it, then new killteam killed my liking of killteam...

I miss directional armor

[lilac moth]

homebrew that shit in

Its not like a GW embassador will jump from the closet and shove 40€ tools down your throat

[plush swift]

not with the people I would be playing with, they already homebrew enough rules in to make the game awful like ork boys getting -3 ap to their guns

[steep pond]

I'm a diorama maker and I've only ever dabbled with GW minis for diorama purposes. If I wanted to make a Darktide themed Diorama would I have to go heavy on the kitbashing or are there 3d files of Darktide themed minis out on the webs?

[plush swift]

heavy kitbashing? No. there are pre existing kits that are pretty close. Someone posted 3d links above to station forge things for darktide too

[final folio]

Up and coming regiment with custom colors.