40k-minis-and-armies

[median thistle]

I used to use revell because my dad seems to always have some but I decided to grab some brushy glue recently

[lavish crescent]

Good

It’s extremely good

[median thistle]

best smell in the universe

[rare hornet]

Exactly

[lavish crescent]

Nahh, that goes to homemade apple crumble

That shit can wake the gods

Also I’m curious but why tf is your pfp a pic of a fox Rose?

[rare hornet]

Because yes

[median thistle]

the same reason mine is a picture of a bellend

[rare hornet]

Now anyway moving on

[lavish crescent]

True but still fox?

Wait

[rare hornet]

[lavish crescent]

Hey at least you ain’t doing space wolves

[median thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/space-wolves-magnus-the-red-40k-warhammer-warhammer40k-gif-22331444

[rare hornet]

You’ve angered the cyclops

[lavish crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-kitten-tell-me-immediately-gif-19902756

[median thistle]

see I wont allow him to do space wolves because I dislike the hemlets

[rare hornet]

Don’t I know it

[lavish crescent]

We talking about the 30k upgrade kits?

[median thistle]

aye

[rare hornet]

Yeah. Those…

[lavish crescent]

I understand them riding wolves but the helmets

Doesn’t help their case

[dry torrent]

New metal blue on my guard vheicule

[rare hornet]

The space wolves are weird

[median thistle]

that is smooth

[lavish crescent]

Mechs bois are worst

[rare hornet]

Okay, a superhuman in armour riding a giant wolf with a poweraxe is badass

[dry torrent]

Thank you i really like this effect

[median thistle]

its very very nice

[rare hornet]

That is a clean blue

[lavish crescent]

But a human fucking a toaster is weird

[dry torrent]

On sun ligth is brigth

[left egret]

You talking about the space dogs?

[rare hornet]

Yeah, the chapter that can’t decide if they want to be furries or vikings

[left egret]

Ever noticed the skulls on them are racoon skulls? I'll post the evidence in memes

Evidence planted

[median thistle]

space wolves rolls off the tongue better than space raccoons

[left egret]

Yeah but a dogs a dog. Wolves don't oboy man. Thus I would argue that the world eaters are more wolves than "Wolves" will ever be

[dry torrent]

Is not furry or viking is Just dum lol

The best chapter is salamander anyway

I have immortal primarc and i love citizen

[edgy jackal]

They (will) have some nice 30k helmets

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-yes-precisely-absolutely-totally-gif-17449520

The yellow on my tank 🗿

Yellow AND gold in same time

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[wheat root]

Fumos guarding my miniatures

[rare hornet]

The emperor protects

[rare hornet]

They decided to be both

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-i-see-think-thinking-pondering-gif-4994872

[dry torrent]

Salamander whit mk6 armor

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[coarse comet]

Its also official😢

[rare hornet]

Ew

[dry torrent]

So gameworkshop is heretic too

[dry torrent]

Wtf is that

[eternal prism]

assault captain

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[brisk vapor]

it's an older model, lord executioner with his head replaced

[eternal prism]

yeah that, made it a few years ago, only got round to painting it earlier

[brisk vapor]

nice work!

[eternal prism]

finecast sucks

like a third of the model is greenstuff/miliput because the surface was mostly bubbles

[dry torrent]

The real capitaine executor is blue so is fake

[eternal prism]

need to print myself a replacement of the iron halo as it has disappeared

[lavish crescent]

Old captain general

[dry torrent]

You put little too mutch gold dude

[plush swift]

he's got an extra save roll
it's meta

[dry torrent]

[lavish crescent]

Newer model

[eternal prism]

also did a 1999 techmarine

[lavish crescent]

Needed to finish eyes and hammer at that time, currently he’s fully painted

Best way to get good armour for grey knight was dry brushing

[brisk vapor]

I too painted a 90s model recently, this one's from 1993

[grand orchid]

The Real capitaine got the best face of any Space Marine they have ever made

[lavish crescent]

That’s a face of “what tf did you do this time?”

[limber widget]

I find the bird helmet eh I like the horus hersy helmets. For the iron warriors

And the mid great crusade helmets

[cerulean smelt]

i really like the flames on the legs

[dawn cove]

Finished my bombards. Now I just need 2 more sets once the boxes come out.

[dry torrent]

MY NEW COMMANDER!!!

[thorny trellis]

Love my grey knights

[vagrant pier]

you wrote thousand sons wrong

[dry torrent]

Yes you rigth salamander is the best

[plush swift]

Dang, I thought you all mistyped and meant Death Guard, but it seems I’m wrong

[dry torrent]

the death guard ceased to exist when it joined god of fart

[plush swift]

Well at least this god is the best of the 3

And also, Horus Heresy death guard is dope

Horus Heresy Morty model sucks, it needs to be remade honestly

They didn’t give him his bling bling death guard waist symbol

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/c6/Mortarion2.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20110312201928

[untold stirrup]

Thousand Sons are a legion, not a chapter

[plush swift]

He has the bling

[untold stirrup]

🤓

[rare hornet]

Did I hear an Iron Within?!

[plush swift]

Iron without?

I do like Iron Warriors

[blazing spruce]

Man I love this model

I have one for myself

[plush swift]

Why do Horus Heresy models and rules have so much more interesting stuff than any space marine things in 40k

[brazen notch]

Iron Within Iron Without

[rare hornet]

Because is superior game

[plush swift]

Truth

[rare hornet]

It has fun for the whole family

[untold stirrup]

Don't worry, GW will screw it with rules bloat like they do with 40k

[plush swift]

It really does, I love the game, but people tend to forget it’s not a 2k game

It’s a 3k game

[rare hornet]

Massive battles, sibling rivalry, war crimes

[plush swift]

Or were forgotten for another 10+ years

[untold stirrup]

Like, the people who got into HH to get away from 40k bloat are going to be pretty upset, imo

[dry torrent]

I see many many heretic in here

[plush swift]

People have forgotten about Horus Heresy

Some people just have models laying around, played it once, and left

[untold stirrup]

That's true for a lot of game systems, I'm sure

[plush swift]

I hope GW just doesn’t pay too much attention to us, it’d be nice

I just wanna have fun in peace

[untold stirrup]

AW

What's the emote limit?

💵

[plush swift]

Lemme play my death guard, have phosphex bombs, and use heavy alchem flamers in peace

[slate pond]

its a mix of acetone and butyl acetate, the slightly sweet smell is from the butyl acetate

[plush swift]

My silly little legion ignoring all my silly little problems

[slate pond]

delicious.,,.,,......

[plush swift]

Horus Heresy Mortarion hits way better than 40k

And honestly, he’s just better in 30k

He isn’t massive, he doesn’t need to be, and he’s still a cool centerpiece because of the scenic base

I wish all the 40k primarchs were smaller

[untold stirrup]

Is 40k Guilliman bigger than 30k?

[plush swift]

Hell Mortarion in the art he’s in for the death guard codex is way smaller than his actual model

Yup he’s taller

Guilliman for some reason got bigger

[untold stirrup]

Strange

I get making the others bigger because demon powers

[slate pond]

im looking forward to 40k fulgrim

[plush swift]

Well even then it makes no sense, why make yourself an easier target to hit?

Why be a commander of an army and you’re capable of being hit with every shot

[slate pond]

iron halos exist in the lore, its why melee is still so useful

[plush swift]

Yeah, and Morty has one in his skull

You can tell he’s Morty, he has wings

You don’t need him to be bigger

I’m tempted to print out a smaller version of the 40k Morty to the size he’s meant to be, and use that

Treat him as a daemon prince

Like he’s supposed to be

Not a greater daemon

[slate pond]

it would be cool to see someone convert a 30k Morty to 40k

[vagrant pier]

Salamanders used to be

Plus fuck codex

[rare hornet]

We're all heretics

[cerulean smelt]

anyone here play mechanicus?

i'm trying to figure out what's effective against say, a baneblade

i was thinking about a knight but i dunno

[rare hornet]

Onager Dunecrawler with a Neutron laser seems like a decent choice

[dry torrent]

the tyranid slayer tau laner the ork eradicator the one is only colonel Dravok

[cerulean smelt]

how many would you take? assuming it was a straight up fight with just those units

i had pretty bad luck last time i took those

[rare hornet]

I'd definitely bring at least 2

because your opponent will be gunning for them ASAP

[cerulean smelt]

would you say a knight would be a bad call to bring as backup?

i'll definitely take 2 dunecrawlers, at least

[rare hornet]

Which knight in particular?

[cerulean smelt]

good question, i was thinking a pair of armigers with a crusader or something

[rare hornet]

A crusader with thermal cannon would work

[elfin yew]

Baneblades are going to be a tough sell currently, they're kind of goofy durable

Armor of contempt is probably getting cut for guard in January

[cerulean smelt]

well, it's not exactly a baneblade i'm worried about

it's a rogal dorn, but i wanted to overkill

[elfin yew]

Oh well then yeah, what Rose said

[rare hornet]

It's that toughness 9 that's your biggest trouble

[cerulean smelt]

i'll take a thermal cannon knight, two dunecrawlers, and hope it works out

yeah, gonna be rough

last game i played against it, it didn't even take a wound

wiped the entire rest of the army except it and a leman

i've not really messed with the special weapons on skitarii, are they worth bothering with?

ie arc rifle, plasma caliver

[rare hornet]

Maybe for the armigers take the warglaive with the thermal spear

[rare hornet]

Erm, I'm sorry I'm not too familiar with the mechanicus

[cerulean smelt]

oh no worries

i'll give the thermal spear a shot

[rare hornet]

The thermal spear and thermal cannon are both strength 9 with good range

[dry torrent]

Wtf is going here

[rare hornet]

The dunecrawler laser is strength 12 so will have no troubles

[cerulean smelt]

asking questions about tabletop

i'll give all that a shot and see how it goes, thanks rose

[plush swift]

Baneblades are a distraction

[rare hornet]

No worries

[plush swift]

If they have a Leman russ or Rogal Dorn that should be your focus

[dry torrent]

Shadowsword blow up everything so dunecrawler or not you dead

[cerulean smelt]

it's a rogal, but i'm aiming to kill a baneblade just incase

or be able to

[plush swift]

Admech are in a sad spot, especially compared to newer codecies

[cerulean smelt]

i've been having fun with them tbh

but i'm also super new

and they are my first army

[plush swift]

That’s good

[dry torrent]

Admech is suck

[rare hornet]

That's a fair assumption

[dry torrent]

He have worst vheicule on the imperium but is him build the imperium vheicule

[plush swift]

Death Guard was my first army 40k wise, then I sold them, regret it, and now I play maggotkin AoS

[cerulean smelt]

winning is less important than having a good time, especially when playing with buddies, and i really like how the admech look and play

[plush swift]

And Death Guard for 30k

[dry torrent]

Good job

[cerulean smelt]

i just wanna at least hurt their vehicles, so it's a bit more interesting

[rare hornet]

Be warned the guard player will probably be trying to take out your big stuff quickly as things like the vanquisher and rogal AT gun are nasty

[plush swift]

Yeah, thanks

[cerulean smelt]

the new guard stuff is horrifying

i had some transports, and they had some heavy lascannons

and then i didn't have transports

[dry torrent]

The new guard is very powerfull

I blow up tzeech and arlequin army last weekend

[cerulean smelt]

this is super dumb, but can someone refresh me on vehicle melee rules?

to be specific, what changes for a vehicle which has entered melee

or for example, can it still fire at other targets

like if i charge a rogal dorn with skitarii, can it still shoot at my dunecrawler

[plush swift]

No

It must shoot the skitarii

[cerulean smelt]

oh that gives me an idea then

i could do like, rust-stalkers or something

[plush swift]

Vehicles in melee usually can still shoot unless it says it cannot

[elfin yew]

This isnt the case anymore

Turret weapons can fire out

ala the big top gun

[cerulean smelt]

gah

worth a shot

[plush swift]

Like plagueburst crawler can’t shoot mortar in melee

[elfin yew]

They still take a penalty to hit though which is good

[plush swift]

Wait really?

Okay good

[elfin yew]

They also can't fire the blast weapon into melee as typical

[cerulean smelt]

and they are also in melee which i imagine a baneblade isn't as good at as a rust stalker

[rare hornet]

If the weapon is blast then they can't shoot at the guys fighting it

[plush swift]

I thought you could only shoot the unit your in melee with

[elfin yew]

Typically yes

Guard turret weapons get an exception

[plush swift]

Of course

Yay, thanks GW

Making more confusing rules

To contradict your core ones

[cerulean smelt]

also dumb question, has anyone here experimented with kataphrans?

[rare hornet]

Warhammer is hard

[cerulean smelt]

they seem maybe good

[plush swift]

Horus Heresy better

AoS better

Kill Team better

[rare hornet]

Kataphrans?

[cerulean smelt]

servitor with tank tracks and big gun

[plush swift]

Oh yeah, those overcosted nightmares

Use the amogus robots

[pine yacht]

god i wish the gretchin pack models look good

[cerulean smelt]

sus

[rare hornet]

Oh Kataphrons

[pine yacht]

straight outdated models

[cerulean smelt]

god damn it, at least i was close-ish

but yeah those

[plush swift]

Kataphrons from what I’ve seen are overcosted, don’t perform well with what they’re supposed to do, and that’s pretty much it

[rare hornet]

They're a troop choice?!

[plush swift]

Use AoS Gretchin

[pine yacht]

they look better?

[cerulean smelt]

yup

they're technically troops, according to battlescribe

[plush swift]

Look at the gloomspite gitz, really good looking models, some outdated

[cerulean smelt]

they're also hella expensive

[plush swift]

They really are

[rare hornet]

Just a bit

[plush swift]

Skitarii are just better imo

[cerulean smelt]

they look.. nice? but really costly

[plush swift]

Tell me, what’s their BS?

[cerulean smelt]

4+

oh

o h

[plush swift]

God they’re a Canoptek unit

That sucks

[cerulean smelt]

this seems exclusively useful if buffed to hell

[plush swift]

Yeah

Only if buffed

[cerulean smelt]

and i don't see a core tag, or a skitarii tag

.. i do see biker???

biker????

[plush swift]

Canoptek doomstalkers, you have to buff to hell with a technomancer to be good

But my god Kataphrons, they don’t have any good buff options, 4+ BS, expensive

And they just die

[rare hornet]

They are the bike

[cerulean smelt]

3 wounds 3+ save for 120 points and one model (on the destroyer variant)

that's awful

[plush swift]

No invuln?

[cerulean smelt]

6+

[plush swift]

No FNP?

Oh god

[rare hornet]

6+ invuln

[cerulean smelt]

lmao

[plush swift]

Oh no

[cerulean smelt]

a dunecrawler costs less

depending on weapon choice

[plush swift]

Yeah use dunecrawlers

[cerulean smelt]

that's so dumb

why are they this expensive lol

[plush swift]

GW that’s why

GW has multiple teams for balancing, and the 40k team has not done well at all

[cerulean smelt]

also Secutarii seem pretty useless

[plush swift]

What are secutarii?

[cerulean smelt]

they also don't seem very elite at all

it's like skitarii, but worse

[plush swift]

I’ve never heard of them before

[cerulean smelt]

neither had i until i opened battlescribe

which is apparently up to date

[rare hornet]

They are a forgeworld item apparently

[cerulean smelt]

and suck

[rare hornet]

so maybe that's why?

[plush swift]

I recommend looking at Horus Heresy Admech if the rules for Admech in 40k really do just look.. super outdated

[rare hornet]

Well yeah that too

[cerulean smelt]

they're supposed to be guards for titans

[rare hornet]

HH admech are just War crimes - the army

[plush swift]

HH Admech has really cool stuff like Thallax robots, castellax, and as much poisons and toxins in the world

It makes my inner death guard happy

[cerulean smelt]

i don't imagine i can just, play HH admech against a 40k army

[plush swift]

Oh you can’t

[cerulean smelt]

shame nobody i know plays HH

[plush swift]

But if you convince others I believe they’ll give it a try

[cerulean smelt]

i play with 2 guard players and an imperial fist player (help me)

and both of the guard players are busy being overjoyed with the new codex

[plush swift]

I’ve drifted away from 40k just because the rules bloat, the shitty 40k balance team unable to make anything right, and then constantly getting rid of cool models or even recent models

[cerulean smelt]

and the imperial fist is busy roleplaying as an imperial fist (by being an asshole all the time)

[rare hornet]

Can I offer you an ork in this trying time?

[plush swift]

An imperial fist player…

Poor them

In 40k too of all things

[cerulean smelt]

my second game ever was me in a 1v2 against them and one of the guard players

i took a knight, they took two squads of space marines with thunder hammers

my knight died turn 1 and i couldn't do anything about it

er, 3

turn 1 of them deep striking

[rare hornet]

I could throw some Iron Warriors at the problem... No idea how that would go

[plush swift]

I used to play Death Guard and Daemons of Nurgle, even with the recent chaos codex, my god are Nurgle daemons literally the worst, so I migrated them over to AoS and sold my death guard

[rare hornet]

no rerolls for wounds is... interesting

[elfin yew]

You cannot deepstrike turn 1 in matched

[cerulean smelt]

yeah it was turn 3, my bad

[elfin yew]

Ah

[cerulean smelt]

anyways i had a knight with no melee weapons, some skitarii, and a transport

1k vs 500/500

[elfin yew]

Knight into shooting army experience

[cerulean smelt]

lost as soon as fighting started, it was hell

[plush swift]

I just hope GW never sends any 40k balance team people to HH or were ruined

[cerulean smelt]

and made me not want to bring knights at all since then

[rare hornet]

Vehicles are in a slightly poor state 9th is very heavy on the old anti armour

hence why guard tanks are a bit over the top right now

[elfin yew]

Vehicles are fine, Knights are just incredibly squishy for what they are

[cerulean smelt]

they do seem that way

[plush swift]

They throw the word “mortal wounds” around too much in 40k

And they are now making “ignore invulns”

[cerulean smelt]

what

why

[elfin yew]

Knights basically have to run a large amount of armigers because the big models WILL die to being targetted

[rare hornet]

The fact that exists is awful

[elfin yew]

They uh, really shouldnt have existed

as their own army

[cerulean smelt]

i don't plan to play knights by themselves literally ever

it just isn't fun to me

[plush swift]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin yew]

Ignore invulns have been in the game since like

the start of the edition

And there's really not alot that does them

[rare hornet]

Yeah 40k has turned into this mess where you're probably going to get stomped even in a casual game

[dry torrent]

Big battle here

Who is win ?

[cerulean smelt]

me, i won

[plush swift]

People make the joke knights are just “dreadnoughts the army”

And it’s true

[plush swift]

And yet they’re gonna make more most likely

[rare hornet]

There's just so many ridiculously strong weapons now

[cerulean smelt]

anyways i'll go for mostly infantry, with a few anti tank weapons

[plush swift]

Because the 40k rules team likes to drive things into the dirt

[elfin yew]

Uh

[cerulean smelt]

by the way how are you supposed to roll EIGHTY DICE for skitarii rangers with galvanic volley fire

[elfin yew]

40k is like, both statistically and anecdotally(me) the most balanced it has ever been LMAO

The worst offending armies fall only at like 58 WR rn I believe

[plush swift]

It is the most balanced it’s been, but the funniest part is, it’s not balanced in the slightest, shows how bad it’s been

40k has always been in major rough spots

[cerulean smelt]

i would kinda like to know, what would y'all say is the mechanicus's biggest strengths and weaknesses

[plush swift]

It’s definitely not as bad as it was before, but it’s still really bad

[elfin yew]

Biggest strength: Veteran skitarii cohort and skitarii in general IMO

I prefer a game that isnt just marines hitting eachother for 3 hours without casualty

[rare hornet]

I like Horus heresy as things make sense, Your squad of veterans all with thunder hammers got completely destroyed? Well yes because that is a dreadnought

[plush swift]

At least Horus Heresy, there isn’t a de facto worst legion

People say Salamanders, but people can still get major wins with them

[rare hornet]

What balances HH is that you get the same stuff for the legions

[elfin yew]

People get wins with the 'worst' 40k armies too

[plush swift]

Exactly

[cerulean smelt]

anyhow, i'll post an army list shortly incase anyone wants to yell at me for being dumb

brb

[plush swift]

Then tell me why there’s 0 wins for many CSM armies, no major wins for GSC, no major wins for Admech recently, no major wins for space marine chapters that aren’t blood angels or dark angels

[rare hornet]

If it's not a list of only Kataphron then I'll be sad

[elfin yew]

There have been major wins for CSM and GSC

[cerulean smelt]

you tempt me

[elfin yew]

Loyalist marines yeah, blood angels and DA tho

[plush swift]

CSM creations of bile and emperors children

[rare hornet]

Dew it

[elfin yew]

And Black Legion

[plush swift]

Not iron warriors, alpha legion

Or even red corsairs

[rare hornet]

Sad siege noises

[elfin yew]

Stand by

[plush swift]

GSC has been sadly falling behind, yet I still love them, but it saddens me

[cerulean smelt]

GSC?

[plush swift]

Black Legion of course cause Abaddon is just insane

[plush swift]

Genestealer Cults

I haven’t seen any major ork wins recently

[cerulean smelt]

i'm curious what abaddon's stats are

[elfin yew]

You can run Abaddon with anyone

[rare hornet]

Iron Warrior Maulerfiends are scary

[elfin yew]

and most ppl do

[cerulean smelt]

gonna put him in my mechanicus army

[plush swift]

Or any major chaos knights wins

[slate pond]

any other patricians in the chat

[plush swift]

But he just performs better in a lot of other legions than the rest

[elfin yew]

Basically all CSM are above a 40% WR, with Alpha Legion being the worst at right around 41

So we arent in goofy like, 30% WR days

[plush swift]

Well yeah, that’s at least a start

God the 30% wr days

There’s a reason I skipped 8th edition

[elfin yew]

It's not really possible to see Heresy stats since it isn't played at like, a large level yet/isn't collected for

[plush swift]

Yeah, but even then, Horus Heresy is its own different ball game

I believe it’s pretty balanced legion wise, but units is where the problems start

[rare hornet]

I'm happy with heresy being how it is, it has a bit more focus on narrative

[plush swift]

There’s obvious bias towards certain unit balance

The factions themselves are good, but things like contemptor dreadnoughts, heavy support squads, certain exemplary battles units, PDF units and more

That needs major tuning

[limber widget]

Abaddon is like joker that wants to burn society into chaos

[plush swift]

Template weapons, plasma weapons

[elfin yew]

It's also to be noted that like, tournament level play doesn't really apply to casual

Used to balance would, but now that everyone's at a 9th codex, pretty much any army can reliably beat others

[plush swift]

Not really

[elfin yew]

Uh yeah

Really

Otherwise It's diagnosis: skill issue

[rare hornet]

I'm just crap at games

[dry torrent]

I like what did you say but is dont fig

[plush swift]

There are just some armies that really don’t perform well, especially against others, we cannot ignore the tyranids, custodes, Tau, and eldar

[dry torrent]

[plush swift]

We cannot ignore that they are still just insane

[elfin yew]

They aren't?

Tyranids are still a bit up there but the other 3 aren't really op anymore

[plush swift]

Have you seen harlequins?

[elfin yew]

And you can still pretty easily beat them if you know your army in casual play

Uh yeah, and I've tabled them

With GSC

[plush swift]

Casual I believe?

[elfin yew]

That's what I was saying, yes

Most people don't play tournaments, so catastrophizing about competitive scene doesn't really apply to them

[plush swift]

I understand casual play, but we’re talking about tournament level stuff

[elfin yew]

a

[plush swift]

I mean, even in casual, it can feel hard to try and face a new codex, especially with a weaker army

[rare hornet]

I've been quite enjoying making my army based on lore

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-gif-18553963

[elfin yew]

Early in the ed, yes, but now most armies are at par

At par enough to reliably beat eachother in casual. Without the competitive players who will get the most efficiency out of their armies

[plush swift]

Not a lot of armies are at par with each other though is the issue, I don’t believe most are, I believe it’s half and half

Some armies can win against others, but get stomped to the curb by others

[elfin yew]

You name an army, I'll tell you how I've seen them beat the highest WR armies

People just don't play hard enough in casual for it to matter

[plush swift]

So let’s say someone plays an Admech army and I play my nids, I like having fun, but I always run a maleceptor because it’s my favorite model

[elfin yew]

And most people who catastrophize about this don't have the actual experience to know

[plush swift]

What’s Admech going to do to a mortal wound dumping machine?

[elfin yew]

Shoot it? Big time? They have the guns to put it down, or the 5+ MW canticle helps alot defensively

That and the Maleceptor got like

beat into the ground by nerfs

[plush swift]

It got a points increase, and an FAQ

not much else

[elfin yew]

That is alot

[plush swift]

It can still dump mortals

[elfin yew]

They also faq'd a broken interaction with its action

[plush swift]

I can still slip it in my list, and in leviathan, my favorite hive fleet it still has a permanent transhuman

[slate pond]

if its a friendly game then you talk it through beforehand and work out a compromise

[elfin yew]

You try getting a lumbering 8" monster into range of a gunline before dying

[plush swift]

I play leviathan, I always play leviathan, it’s my favorite hive fleet, always has been since I started

[elfin yew]

LMAO

[cerulean smelt]

putting the skitarii infront of the dunecrawlers

[elfin yew]

The skitarii blessed

[cerulean smelt]

so the skitarii will have data tether

[plush swift]

It doesn’t need to, because it’s not just by itself

[cerulean smelt]

meaning i don't have to have my whole army around my HQ

[elfin yew]

You are severely overestimating how powerful a single maleceptor is now

[plush swift]

My shardgullet hive tyrant, my 2 beautiful harpies I still have because I played them in 8th because I was a madlad

[rare hornet]

That's certainly one way to get rid of tanks

[elfin yew]

Or that a shooting faction, would have to dedicate their entire army to killing it

[cerulean smelt]

this leaves me with 500 points

now to figure out how to back this up i guess

current weakness is melee, but i'm fighting guard

[rare hornet]

What point limit you got?

[cerulean smelt]

2k

more bodies can't hurt, i suppose

[rare hornet]

Hmm, would you want me to make a 2000 point list to compare it against?

[cerulean smelt]

sure, that'd help a lot actually

[plush swift]

It’s not my fault GW broke my faction and made them busted, I don’t intentionally make a broken nids list

I take leviathan

I have 2 carni’s, 2 harpies, a maleceptor, a Deathleaper, a tyrant, a neuro and zoans

[cerulean smelt]

though, disclaimer that i don't have time to actually play tabletop besides the one game i've got scheduled today, so it'd purely be comparing

[elfin yew]

Idk how to tell you this, but Leviathan isn't really broken anymore because of the change to tyranid warriors

That was what made them busted

[plush swift]

I didn’t even bring warrior spam is the funny part

[rare hornet]

No problem, would it be cool if I made like a chaos list?

[plush swift]

And my list was still disgusting

[cerulean smelt]

yeah go for it

[rare hornet]

Cool

[plush swift]

I used 2 squads of 3 warriors to fill out troops

[cerulean smelt]

i'd love to see lists in general, helps me figure out if i'm missing things

[plush swift]

MSU

[elfin yew]

The 2 harpies would do it though, they're still pretty broken

[plush swift]

Harpies are insane, I love them, but my god they need nerfs still, I should only be able to bring 1 in my list

The reason I use them is because I love the models, my list was all my favorite nid models

I don’t like biovores, they ugly

I like psychic, so I brought the maleceptor and neuro

[elfin yew]

Yeah nothing in that list is really busted other than the harpies

[plush swift]

At least I’m not play triple neuro jorm with 15 zoans

Carnifexes put in work

[cerulean smelt]

part of me is glad i picked mechanicus because it means i don't have to know what psychic phase does

[plush swift]

Deathleaper got a nerf, sadly, but it was understandable

[cerulean smelt]

i've never once seen it play out

[plush swift]

HH Mechanicus has psychic tech priests

[cerulean smelt]

maybe it's horrifying, maybe it's not

[cerulean smelt]

it just keeps sounding better

[plush swift]

I play psychic death guard on tabletop sim

For 40k

[cerulean smelt]

aren't death guard the nurgle CSM?

[plush swift]

Yup

[cerulean smelt]

didn't expect them to have many psykers

[plush swift]

Typhus is a psyker

Their herald

[cerulean smelt]

oh huh

[plush swift]

Mortarion is a psyker too

The great unclean one is a psyker

[cerulean smelt]

i guess that makes sense

actually, makes me curious

[plush swift]

And a malignant plaguecaster, my favorite DG model

[cerulean smelt]

beasts of nurgle are a real thing in tabletop right?

[plush swift]

Yup

[cerulean smelt]

how potent are they?

[plush swift]

They are fun

In AoS, very good

Nurgle daemons?

For 40k?

:(

[cerulean smelt]

aw

[plush swift]

Sadge face

They don’t hold up

They die too quickly to be able to get in

[cerulean smelt]

actually how do you play melee in general

ranged i get, you get at your range and you shoot gun, preferably from cover

but melee seems a lot trickier

[plush swift]

Well, DG is a melee focused, so what we have to do is well, use rhinos

Transports

Or reserves

Deep strike

[cerulean smelt]

so just get close through any means other than simply running at them

and declaring a charge, when is that a good idea?

[plush swift]

As a melee focused army, you can’t just run in at them anymore

[cerulean smelt]

to me it seems almost universally bad

because every time i charge, i just get gunned down by overwatch

where as i could just.. walk up

[plush swift]

Declare charge on units where they don’t have auto hitting weapons

Or when they don’t have massive amounts of models in the unit

[elfin yew]

Most melee focused armies have ways to deny overwatch, I assume admech doesn't since primarily shooting

[cerulean smelt]

yeah

i was thinking about bringing some melee for variety

to be specific rust stalkers

[elfin yew]

try not to charge into things that either autohit or put out a mass volume of high strength shots. Either way, you should get into melee without being completely obliterated beyond bad luck

[plush swift]

Yeah, luckily Death Guard have a contagion to where you can’t fire overwatch on them

It’s Gloaming Bloat

It’s what makes Mortarions Anvil so potent

Nurgle daemons don’t have stuff like that from what I recall

[elfin yew]

They have a spell I believe that turns off overwatch

[shrewd loom]

Anybody else feel like GW kind of cucked any guard regiment besides Cadians?

[plush swift]

They do? Seems a little unreliable being a spell unlike DG which is just a contagion

[elfin yew]

Yeah but they don't have to be in contagion range which is nice

[plush swift]

Failing the cast, getting denied, especially with nids around with insane psychic denial

[cerulean smelt]

it feels like they really like cadia and nothing else, but i don't really know

[elfin yew]

The contagion is more reliable but shorter ranged so

[plush swift]

This is why I like typhus gift of contagion and my favorite, flash outbreak!

[rare hornet]

@cerulean smelt Absolutely no idea how this would do, I just threw some stuff together and thought that would be fun to use

[cerulean smelt]

i feel like my army is massive now

[rare hornet]

Marines are often less numbers

[cerulean smelt]

that's.. 8 models per squad?

[elfin yew]

Lmao I can't believe you have like 80 vanguardm

madlad

[rare hornet]

10 per squad

[cerulean smelt]

oh

do CSM have two wounds?

[rare hornet]

but they are tough

Yes 2 wounds, and in the case of Iron Warriors, you cannot reroll wound rolls

[vagrant pier]

thats me with age of sigmar

[cerulean smelt]

damn

not bad

[vagrant pier]

36 models and barely 1300 points

💀

[plush swift]

AoS armies are quite nice

[rare hornet]

Yeah it's a bit cheesy and I don't feel great for using it

[plush swift]

I like having a reinforced unit of 10 blightkings

[vagrant pier]

i need strenght to paint 6 tzaangors now

[plush swift]

And they never ever die

[cerulean smelt]

it feels like you always want the largest squad you can possibly take

at least with admech

[rare hornet]

Depends on the game size I'd argue

[elfin yew]

Tzaangors are so pretty, I love them. I wish they were worth anything in 40k so I could crossgame them

[cerulean smelt]

like 20 skitarii can be buffed the same as 8 skitarii

[elfin yew]

Their default colors are literally 🏳️‍⚧️ which is incredibly baste

[vagrant pier]

im hating painting then

[cerulean smelt]

i'm gonna start calling it baste now

[plush swift]

Tzaangors.. the pain..

[elfin yew]

Yeah they're Alot™️

[plush swift]

I’ve sold all my tzaangors luckily

[vagrant pier]

painted 4 to play warcry tomorrow

[rare hornet]

To be fair, there is probably better lists. I just wen with this because I looked down the list and thought 'That could be fun'

[plush swift]

Nurglings fun

[cerulean smelt]

best way to go imo

[elfin yew]

I kind of lost my interest in AoS when all my new battletomes were basically 99% reprints with little changes or excitement

[cerulean smelt]

i'll mix up my list a bit

[vagrant pier]

noticed that when i bought the last one

[plush swift]

What battletomes?

[elfin yew]

Disciples and Daughters of Khaine

They basically didn't change

[vagrant pier]

but in my defense, it sucks to find AoS lore

[plush swift]

Ah yeah, I heard things about them

[vagrant pier]

so i read the lore and didnt touched my tome again

[elfin yew]

DoK are still really good but not the list I play which is like, all Blood sisters and Stalkers

All Snakes no wyches

[plush swift]

Maggotkin of Nurgle really be ballin, I’m new to AoS though

And is it just me

[elfin yew]

I also have Morathi but I'm kind of tired of how so many AoS armies literally rely on their centerpiece character to be a good army

[plush swift]

Or are pusgoyles super damn strong

Pusgoyle Blightlords seem really good

[rare hornet]

Yeah just having fun! Although I will admit, it's kinda hard to do when you get flattened for the 5th game in a row

[plush swift]

Idk what centerpiece maggotkin have, it’s either the lord of afflictions, the great unclean one, or the glottkin

[elfin yew]

Would u like advice? I play Black Legion mostly but CSM stuff in general

[cerulean smelt]

fair, it depends on the company i suppose

it's why i prefer 2v2 to 1v1

[rare hornet]

Go for it

[cerulean smelt]

feels more casual

[plush swift]

I’m enjoying AoS though

[rare hornet]

Oh agreed

[plush swift]

Especially since the Nurgle stuff feels like Nurgle unlike in 40k

[vagrant pier]

what is tzeentch center-piece? just to know

[elfin yew]

You should either run chaos cultists instead of legionnares, or run the legionnaires with marks of khorne and chainswords. Bolter marines are almost never worth taking, they're just too expensive for Bolters which are so bad

You can run cultists instead of legion boys and save the points for more terminators/havocs

Which are both good for like all Legions

[plush swift]

Only run bolter marines if you have a bale fire tome and mark of Slaanesh

[elfin yew]

Havocs esp are good with IW

[rare hornet]

Well I thought about it, but I know the IW have a preference for ranged combat, so it made sense that they'd have boltguns

[elfin yew]

Legionnaires are sadly just not very good right now, I still run 20 of them with khorne cswords but that's just because I like them, but I also run cultists

[rare hornet]

I'm not trying to make a tournament list to be fair. And I love fluff based armies

[elfin yew]

You should do the classic IW thing, cultist chaff who literally just cover you then Havocs for that big ranged

Yeee ik, this isn't like meta im prescribing, just something fun that's also stronger

The meta would be like

30 terminators, one has black rune etc etc

[rare hornet]

I have given that a try, unfortunately they tore up my chaff way too quick

[elfin yew]

IW are even better with cultists because of their "use them as cover" stratagem

[rare hornet]

And to be honest playing against a total of 9 eliminators is about as much fun as it sounds

[elfin yew]

[plush swift]

What chapter?..

Are those 9 eliminators in

[rare hornet]

Deathwatch of all things

[plush swift]

Oh, okay not too bad

[rare hornet]

But 9 lasfusils are still 9 lasfusils

[elfin yew]

Hm

Cultists should be real good against that actually

They're basically worthless to fire that into, assuming you're covering some other infantry

[plush swift]

Remember, snipes ignore LOS

[rare hornet]

Problem was he also got them onto high ground so LOS wise he was fine

[elfin yew]

Those are AT weapons

[plush swift]

oh

[rare hornet]

Poor maulerfiend didn't even get out of deployment

[plush swift]

Oh yeah lasfusils

Not the basic ones

[elfin yew]

I'm guessing you're having the same problem I did, which was keeping a Maulerfiend alive

[rare hornet]

IW do it well thanks to stratagems and the whole no reroll thing

[plush swift]

I feel forgefiends are better

But that’s just me

[elfin yew]

Maulerfiends are more fun

also funney doggy maul

I named mine Molly

[rare hornet]

Hits like a brick

[plush swift]

My beasts of Nurgle are my doggies

Cute Nurgle puppers

[elfin yew]

You should try either hiding her behind a large building, or strat reserving her, then using Havocs to kill the eliminators

[plush swift]

Maulerfiends though, I understand they’re more fun, I really like seeing them in world eaters, but I feel if you’re going for a shooty vibe, you’d want a forgefiend

[rare hornet]

Blasphemous Machines and Daemon forge is a particularly spicy combo

[plush swift]

Because Iron Warriors in CSM can stay in Wanton Destruction

[elfin yew]

Havocs or, better, if you're one of the few ppl who have them, Obliterators

[plush swift]

You can daemon forge for shooting if I recall

Get exploding 6’s in range

Because their plasma is heavy right?

[rare hornet]

Tried to, but they found an angle that I has missed

[elfin yew]

Ah yeah rip

I'd just suggest strat reserves

that what I did

Or I'd just accept Molly dying and eating that much firepower

[rare hornet]

Probably a good idea

Oh well

[plush swift]

Obliterators in reserves for Iron Warriors aren’t bad because they stay in Wanton Destruction for turn 2

[elfin yew]

Sometimes things are just going to die sadly, but if they eat up like, a comical amount of firepower that isn't 'efficient', it's okay

[plush swift]

Place them down and obliterate something

[elfin yew]

Like if Molly eats 12pl worth of Eliminators that's pretty good for you, assuming you can then kill them

You could also consider running a MOP and giving her a 4+ invuln

[plush swift]

MOP’s are quite good

[elfin yew]

MOPs are just amazing anyway for alot of reasons so

[rare hornet]

That's right they can buff all daemons

[elfin yew]

Also I cannot talk about CSM without the massive reccomendation of a Discolord

They're genuinely so good

[plush swift]

Yup, very good at doing that, and cursed earth giving itself an aura of 4+ invuln is nice

[elfin yew]

Also works well with Daemon engines since disco can get them hitting on 2s

[plush swift]

They are good in everything that isn’t Word Bearers lol

Discolord takes up a crucial HQ slot for Word Bearers that’s better suited for something else

But you’re not playing word bearers so you don’t need to worry

[elfin yew]

Im pretty sure I saw someone make a WB discolord that could kill literally anything in the game without a woundcap or a titan

Tho I could be mistaken

Oh wait

It was a MoE

[plush swift]

It most likely was a daemon prince with the Nurgle weapon relic

[elfin yew]

Because of the ashen axe

[plush swift]

Oh yeah, ashen axe is quite good

[elfin yew]

Discolords are great though, you can build them to be ridiculously powerful

They're one of the few units that can chew through resident sleeper guard parking lot, by themselves

[plush swift]

Yeah, Word Bearers better HQ slots are the daemon prince because of a WLT they have, Dark Disciples because prayers are really good with WB strats and secondaries, Dark Commune for the same reason and MOP for the same reason

[rare hornet]

So what are people's opinion on the legacy of mars units? I.E Sicaran, Leviathan etc?

[plush swift]

Sicarans are not bad, contemptors are the best ones

[severe crow]

Uhh i wish i can have a Bolt Pistol in game

[plush swift]

Especially in Iron Warriors I feel like a contemptor would be used to it’s effectiveness there

Along with a Sicaran

[plush swift]

That’s a really good camo paint

And yeah, bolt pistol would be nice

[rare hornet]

Fair enough, because my IW are a cross across both HH and 40K so I was going to end up with a few of them anyway

[plush swift]

Sicarans are generally really nice, if you have the CP to spare

Along with Contemptors

Sorry to say but the best helbrute is the thousand sons one, and they don’t even use it

Every other Helbrute is lackluster

Where’d kelermorph go?

[rare hornet]

Off doing cowgirl things I assume?

[elfin yew]

Im here!

I dont know anything about Sicarans FFHSD

[plush swift]

Welcome back

Sicarans cool tank

Really good in HH

Decent from what I’ve heard in 40k, that’s pretty much all I got

[elfin yew]

I like Helbrutes, they're Neat

The multimelta bangs

They're also kind of cheap for something that can be both a decent shooting and melee threat

They're slow which is unfortunate tho

[rare hornet]

They are an old tank from the HH, and before the CSM pred buff, where basically a predator with a better gun

[plush swift]

The multi melta being their only good option, which is sad T-T because I can just take 2 meltaguns in a unit of plague marines…

GW making plague marine weapons free, I can just snag melta guns whenever I like

[elfin yew]

I also like that they can get Marks, my mark of tzeentch helbrute has always, for some reason, had incredible luck by surviving things it really shouldn't

No one wants to dedicate the really strong stuff to just a helbrute, and everything else gets -1 dmging or mark'd

[rare hornet]

I actually think the new hellbrute model looks alright

I know a lot of people prefer the old one

[plush swift]

Oh yeah, honestly with that in mind, it’s probably not bad to take one in iron warriors

Since multi melta is heavy

Wait there’s a new helbrute model?

I thought that was the same one

[rare hornet]

Well I say new

The current hellbrute model

[plush swift]

There’s the dark vengeance helbrute, honestly the coolest of the bunch

Monopose helbrute with fist and multi melta

[rare hornet]

That's the one a lot of people think looks better

[elfin yew]

GW on their way to release a CSM unit exclusively in a boxset, critical to their army roster, then not release it for another 3 years

Obliterator/MOP gang

[plush swift]

GW making cool plague marine models they just molded in 8th edition OOP and never to be seen again

Thanks GW!

[elfin yew]

Japanese Exclusive Plague apothecary moment

[plush swift]

Yet keep all the finecast and metal models

I am pissed they locked the COOLEST malignant plaguecaster model behind a country barrier

[elfin yew]

I think the Tsons MOP equivalent is STILL only in that 60000 tzaangor box

[plush swift]

Like what the absolute fuck, it’s the coolest Death Guard model ever imo

[rare hornet]

Obliterators are cool, being locked to 24" is a slight nuisance at times, but they are a cool unit to have as a bodyguard around a warpsmith who's giving them +1 to hit

[elfin yew]

They're rlly good for Black Legion, thus why I would like some

[plush swift]

Ah yes, their investment of 60,000 tzaangors

[elfin yew]

Since >hitting on 2s from deepstrike

[plush swift]

GW needs to rerelease a bunch of the DG models from 8th

[rare hornet]

But that's probably just me fanboying over Iron Circle maniples

[plush swift]

HH iron warriors really do have the nice toys

They need more models though

[rare hornet]

Do they get any unique models in 40K?

[plush swift]

Iron Warriors lackin, they gave DG a praetor and cata praetor

[rare hornet]

Oh yeah HH they need some love

[plush swift]

If you want a horrid metal one that’s now OOP, then no

[rare hornet]

Although that rumoured new character series gives me hope

Where they are allegedly going to make new primarch models

[plush swift]

They better remake Mortarion

The 30k one looks like shit, which I guess makes sense, he smells like shit in lore

But I want his gas mask, and a helmet option, giving all the primarchs helmet options would be dope

Because Mortarion weirdly enough wears a beaky helmet

[rare hornet]

We'll have to see, Making a primarch model will probably take some time

[dry torrent]

My heroic/elite commande squad

[burnt epoch]

Anyone think that the navy breaches look like solar auxilia

[compact umbra]

Tzaangors are the best models tho

[plush swift]

they really arent imo

I've seen them so much

they are dead to me

I'd rather paint 60 poxwalkers

[compact umbra]

They are so pretty and cute

How can you not love tzaangors

[indigo cosmos]

My first ever mini, only cut myself once. Gonna give him and the rest of them a green coat of paint

Since he’s my first mini what should his name be?

[pine yacht]

im praying for you
skitarri is notoriously hard to paint, especially beginners
and a great name would be Leroy!!

[indigo cosmos]

Thus his name is Leroy.

And I’ll try my best

[left egret]

First Iron warrior/model ever painted

@rare hornet

[shrewd loom]

jesus christ, taking these cadian kneepads off is time consuming

[left egret]

Half done

[rotund spoke]

What kind of carrying case do you guys recommend?

[hearty cradle]

WIP, still cant nail the highlights 😦

[plush swift]

cake trays and magnetizing the bases

[ebon panther]

Well im upset, GW fucked my store and didn't give us any knight boxes

[hearty cradle]

i stuck magnets on teh bases just for a bit of extra weight

[ebon panther]

But guess imma do these wanna be nerds

[plush swift]

My store supposedly ordered extra knight boxes but I havent heard anything about them, I know a lot of stores just flat out didnt get any

my store is also 4 hours from me

[ebon panther]

Yeah. We were supposed to get six but they sold out of them before we could even order them because they call the further stores first

Imma make them shadow... watchers?

Think that's the name for em

[plush swift]

I called the store

just to make sure they got them in

I heard they werent releasing until tomorrow but Im not entirely sure whats happening

gw seems to do this a lot

I dont get why GW has to be this awful

[analog frost]

No one does, they just are

I really wish a better company would get ahold of warhammer at this point but there is no way they'd sell it

[slender zodiac]

Monkey paw curls
Tenzen buys GW

[plush swift]

I joined back with Nurgle model collecting wise, and got sick a day later, guess it's deserved for leaving him for Tzeentch lmao

[cerulean smelt]

@rare hornet the dunecrawlers worked perfectly, rogal dorn and leman russ killed with no losses in return

[round crystal]

Painted this back in February. For Sanguinius!

[solemn oxide]

Foxtrot Minor 110011

First Model

[narrow ice]

Actually admech operates off of the greek alphabet, so something like "Rho 54.98 Gamma" is generally more accurate

[grizzled jolt]

More death Korps of Kreig wip and one space marine wip I think I'm going to you with black templars.
Sorry for the terrible camera quality.

[plush swift]

Built him wrong but i had fun painting him and got a good laugh from it so eh

[plush swift]

Those look sick

[tender ocean]

My latest finished models for my Guard army, 4 more Cadian squads, command squad, and 4 field ordinance batteries to finish by next Saturday😅

[obsidian moat]

Nice I love the way that baneblade pattern looks

[tender ocean]

Very chonky tank you’ve got there, which chapter are you painting it as?

[obsidian moat]

Heresy thousand sons

[tender ocean]

The shadow sword is an amazing pattern in stats and look

[obsidian moat]

Play them in 40k too

[tender ocean]

Very nice choice, gold and red if I remember correct?

[obsidian moat]

Got one my self just to many names to remember

[obsidian moat]

Indeed I accent them with blacks and silvers too

Such as these

[slender zodiac]

I should skin you for puting the sponsons all the way up front as thats tactically disadvantageous
But its that pattern which ill accept

[tender ocean]

I have it equipped with the 2 twin heavy flamers, I like to think that it'd be better closer to the enemy then all the way back. However I do relent that that is a fair point that it'd be better further back. on a more tactical sense.

[slender zodiac]

You... Put flamers
On basically a titan destroyer...
How fucking based never mind

Ima do that when I get a second baneblade
Use flamers on the shadowsword
However I cant bring myself to pit them all the way forward unless its the stormlord

[rare hornet]

That’s looking good

[rare hornet]

Woo!!

[bronze slate]

Had this for a while

[slender mantle]

hand reveal

[slender mantle]

hand reaveal

[turbid haven]

Tried a thing

[slender mantle]

hand reveal

[turbid haven]

yerp got them grippers out

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

French blue horizon

https://tenor.com/view/proud-parks-and-rec-parks-and-recreation-ron-swanson-gif-4148702

[winged lava]

I'm making a bunch of necromonda pox gangsters on hero forge

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/dobblo-ticoneroga-yesnow-lag-sentence-gif-25626570

[winged lava]

Who going to stop me

[dry torrent]

Me

https://tenor.com/view/war-hammer-hammer-gif-25704599

[winged lava]

a bit more longer till it's on Xbox

I shall be waiting for that day

[winged lava]

I'm still waiting

[dry torrent]

I see you like heroforge

[winged lava]

Honestly bro I'm just making miniatures so when I get a resin printer

Also can't you play chaos cult in necromundo cuz I already have one

[dry torrent]

Take elegoo mars 3 dude

[winged lava]

Bro did you think I was going to buy miniatures off of hero forge I'm not blowing 60 bucks on a single mini

[dry torrent]

still happy it's shit hero forge take your own 3D printer

[winged lava]

I'm asking for one for Christmas so we'll see in heroforged prices mad expensive it's 70 bucks for a small

[dry torrent]

Tale elegoo printer

Is the best

[winged lava]

All right thanks bro

[dry torrent]

And is not too expensive for this great quality

[winged lava]

Is it resin or filament cuz I'm looking for resin ones

[dry torrent]

No fuck filament

You dont need that shit for fig

https://www.atome3d.com/products/pack-elegoo-starter-mars-3-pro-mercury-x-bundle-resine?variant=42478872887447

Take it dude pack whit all for low price

@winged lava

[atomic rose]

I heavily encourage you to do your own research into 3D printers and choose depending on your needs. Mars 3 is a good printer, but it is fairly smallish. If you want to print armies, it might be worth considering larger build plate printers. On the other hand, if you are printing for competition pieces or display, you might want to consider getting an 8K resolution printer instead. 🙂 Also, heroforge might be ok source of minis if you are comfortable with placing your own supports. I advise heavily against it, unless you have prior experience. Placing your own supports is difficult and very often results in failed prints and even if you do get it right, it is incredibly time consuming, roughly 1-3 hours per mini, depending on how complicated it is. You can probably find pretty much anything you might want already made and pre-supported on myminifactory. @winged lava

Also definitely research on how to print safely both for yourself and the environment.

[dry torrent]

The saturne 1 is good for begining and big place

And expect if you want print larger than a leman russ the mars 3 is sufficient especially given its print quality

[wind rapids]

Smelly boi

[rare hornet]

Thicc and chunky

[slender zodiac]

just like my coffee

[atomic rose]

@dry torrent Mars 3 build plate is 14x9cm, which is fairly standard size for small printers. That should comfortably fit 3-4 fully assembled minis or 1-2 minis printed in pieces. While that should be often sufficient, if you plan to print 10 man squads on regular basis, the small plate turns it from a half a day project into 2-3 days endeavor with triple the amount of nightmare clenaup. Will Mars 3 (or any similar printer like AnyCubic Photon Mono etc.) suffice? Absolutely. Might it be worth to invest a bit more to get bigger build plate for large prints? Definitely worth considering based on his needs. And while the 4K quality is offers is definitely more than sufficient, a new generation of 8K printers creeped out last year, so if you are after that quality, paying a bit extra to get on of the newer ones might be worthy, rather than investing in a technology that is slowly becoming obsolete.

It's nothing against Mars 3 or anything. I am just saying there are many choices to consider and it all depends on what he wants and needs.

To go for a ridiculous example, printing a titan on Mars 3 would be a literal nightmare taking months. On Phrozen Mega you could probably have it done in a week or so. Of course it is way more expensive, but it is important to select a proper tool for a job you want done.

[brisk vapor]

if you're not familiar in how much the resolution impacts the end result here is a handy comparison https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635445227980849171/1049349637095555082/image.png

[atomic rose]

or here:

https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/034/868/123/eb32475827ce68482e35da17739ef577_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.0.2&w=680&fit=max&v=1631594037&gif-q=50&q=92&s=44eec5905055d792606221c41bf0c243

[brisk vapor]

yeah even better

[feral valley]

Hmmmmm Warlord Titan, or Warhound and Reaver titans?

[rare hornet]

Depends on the game you're talking about?

[plush swift]

Surprised the discord doesn't have a tabletop sim following for the wee wargame

[obsidian tapir]

The final form of a necron

[cosmic mulch]

the stickman terminator

[feral valley]

Just for looking cool tbh

I don't expect to play with them

[slender mantle]

neckron

[cinder bear]

Longcron

[slender mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZMyS8D58o0

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-general-grievous-general-kenobi-grievous-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-17424071

[round crystal]

Zoomie boi

[dry torrent]

Use ATV like everyone wtf

[rare hornet]

Broom

[brazen notch]

How much longer are we gonna wait for the new bike models

[slender mantle]

I always thought the chaplain's was the best but all look goofy in the end

The orks ones are cool too, and they are the only race I can imagine really using bikes

[pastel grotto]

Fuck loyalists

Get possessed by daemons to assert dominance

[dry torrent]

the only thing dominating when your demon is you miserable stupid heretic

[rare hornet]

Hey, if they’re into it no harm there

What happens in the warp stays in the warp

[left egret]

It really doesn't though

[rare hornet]

Well most of it doen't

[left egret]

The gellarfield only temporarily failed once and now D̴͋̿a̷͐̎n̸̈́͛i̵͐̿e̴͑͝l̷̑́ won't leave

[left egret]

.
I̶̧͒ ̶̀̒î̴̡s̷̀͝ ̶̊̄D̴̞̀ä̸̤n̴͚̒i̶̔̎e̶̛̐l̴͖̀.̸͇̀ ̷̑͐ ̸͚̾D̴͒́a̵̖͠n̴͙̄í̶͊e̸͍̾ľ̴̒ ̸͊̚ì̵̭ŝ̴͎ ̶͈͘n̸̞̓o̴̔̆t̶̬͒ ̸̻̇D̷͊͋a̴̢͂e̷͚̾m̴͚͝o̶̤̓n̸̏̌

[pastel grotto]

Challenge accepted

Call me mutant one more time, mf

[dry torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/disgust-disgusting-puke-vomit-eww-gif-19262390

[dry torrent]

Mutant shit

[rare hornet]

Daemon

[sage matrix]

Finishing up the base rim atm

[dry torrent]

I LIKE THAT FUCK DEMON

[sage matrix]

Lmao

[left egret]

Nah fuck that shit. Khorne offers me muscles and the Emperor is a callous, uncaring tyrant with a god complex.

Down with the corpse god!

I am a very simple creature.

[dry torrent]

and how do you explain that even with your power to give by the gods a melta is enough to equalize and you have a false superiority 😏

[left egret]

That's what you have a pet forgefiend for 😝

[dry torrent]

my plasma rifle does not agree with its

https://tenor.com/view/plasma-gun-warhammer40k-death-korps-of-krieg-fire-power-youtube-absolutely-nothing-death-korps-of-krieg-gif-26550077

[left egret]

Mayhabs but hades autocannons got good range on em

(Dinner I shall keep this fun debate going when I am done eating)

[dry torrent]

Dont worry i wait for you young heretic

[rare hornet]

"You think I am weak... But you have grown weaker Angron. I have remade my strength, while you have sold yours out of despair. You are weak. You are a slave. You were born a slave, and a slave you will remain. Your strength flees. It does not belong to you. It is your master's, and the chain that keeps you throttles you. The threads of blood are thinning, the meal of slaughter will only keep you here long enough, to watch your bastard sons die."

[dry torrent]

Heretic vs heretic vs loyaliste

[edgy jackal]

Damn, well done

[marble sorrel]

Anyone know what company I should paint my friends ultramarines?

[rare hornet]

4th

[dry torrent]

Salamander

[rare hornet]

Captain Ventris is a hardarse

[marble sorrel]

I paint my own as salamanders, Red Templar’s, Black Templar’s, Raven Guard or White Scars

This is for a friend however and is paying me to paint ultra marines

[dry torrent]

Ultra marines is bad

Paint other things

[marble sorrel]

Would ultra marines use centurions and if so how would I do company markers

[marble sorrel]

I know ultra marines are bad but I am getting paid

[rare hornet]

I would say they would, because it's about the tactical need for them

[rare hornet]

Are they devestator or assualt?

[dry torrent]

tell your friend he's a bad person and he should join the heretics and the xenos

[marble sorrel]

He’s only getting one pack as he just wants to collect them and not use them so I’m doing a combination of both

One full devastator, one full assault and the leader will use both

I’ve never gotten centurions

[dry torrent]

[rare hornet]

Would this help?

The shoulders are the same for both variants

[dry torrent]

Centurion is cool centurion ultra marines no

[marble sorrel]

Which is 4th companies colors?

[rare hornet]

Green trim on the shoulerpads

[marble sorrel]

Ah thanks

[dry torrent]

Like this

[rare hornet]

Did your friend not have any preference then?

[marble sorrel]

Just make it a smurf essentially

[dry torrent]

Whit green shoulerpad

[rare hornet]

Ah okay, yeah 4th company has some great stories on their captain

[dry torrent]

Uriel ventris

The guys on the picture

[marble sorrel]

Noted thanks.

Between his ultra smurfs and my cadians its a lil hectic lol

I still got 3 full squads to paint a lemon rust and a command squad

[dry torrent]

Its good painting

[marble sorrel]

Oh and 4 gun crews

[dry torrent]

Gun crews ?