40k-minis-and-armies

[unreal geyser]

Throwing this in here, here’s my jungle necron army that I’m working on. Thinking of calling them my Aztecha Dynasty

Kitbashed with Tomb Kings bits

[slender zodiac]

buy cheap ass used models from ebay or some shit, then scrape the paint off, and repaint it

[unreal geyser]

There’s also this great site called Troll Trader with hella cheap models

[crimson oar]

oh im not worried about spending some $$ , its just painful to spend so much time on the painting part to then not play

[slender zodiac]

ah

[plush swift]

i dont think they ship to some countries

[crimson oar]

LGS around here dont do warhammer because apparently it cost an arm and a leg for store owner to buy the ''basic package for the store''

[elfin yew]

Is there not a GW near u

[plush swift]

fun fact, gold can corrode under rare circumstances, the corrosion is purple in color. Just in case

[plush swift]

they have to buy a ton of things, including a full paint rack. the starting cost is I think around 40k

[elfin yew]

It's also very strange to hear about LGS' not having warhammer stuff. Considering how like, ubiquitous it is

Figures

[plush swift]

My local lgs doesnt carry it because they cant afford it nor do they have the shelf space

[crimson oar]

LGS want it , but GW is a pain in the ass to deal with apparently, as a store owner you cant chose what you want to carry , you need to get the GW shop package

[plush swift]

the other one doesnt get holiday boxes in because it requires them to also get the aos boxes, which no one plays around here

[elfin yew]

Yeah that tracks

[crimson oar]

warhammer is the only product a LGS cannot get from a distributor

[elfin yew]

GW screwing retailers is like, a consistent thrill

[crimson oar]

it has to come from GW

[elfin yew]

[slender zodiac]

man i wonder if its like gw wants people to buy stuff from gw stores

and not other LGSs

[plush swift]

they pretty much do

[crimson oar]

well thats 100 the case

they are killing their own game

[plush swift]

look at what happened with cursed city, dominion, indomitus

[slender zodiac]

that was sarcasm you digusisis

[crimson oar]

MTG is starting to do the same

[plush swift]

I know it was

WOTC is just tanking the game period

[crimson oar]

yup

I sold everything magic related

[plush swift]

they are doing the same to D&D too

[crimson oar]

they are pumping the numbers before they sell WOTC

releasing a stupid set every 2 weeks

[narrow ice]

Its really bad, they seem to want to punish people for playing shooty armies in the fucking scifi game

[elfin yew]

Huh?

[slender zodiac]

Tau railgun
what

[plush swift]

cough tau cough

[elfin yew]

Well the railgun isn't really busted, but yeah, shooting armies are usually the strongest in the game

Not always but they usually do well

[slender zodiac]

it was for a hot second

[elfin yew]

Nah

It's never been

[narrow ice]

They just discourage environments where the sci-fi game is played like its sci-fi

[slender zodiac]

i did the math
50/50 to nuke a leman off the map

[elfin yew]

The tau problem was in crisis suits and XV88s

Most people can oneshot a russ off the map

they're cheap

[plush swift]

the railgun was just a shock because of how high the numbers were

[elfin yew]

And not especially durable

[narrow ice]

Especialpy after losing AoC

[slender zodiac]

no no no no
it was coinflip
it came down to one roll
roll a 4+ leman dead

[elfin yew]

Uh yeah

And the hammerhead is

far more fragile

and fires (1) shot

[plush swift]

when comparing it to a necron doomsday cannon, its gross

[elfin yew]

That it can miss

[slender zodiac]

no saves, nothing for the leman

[elfin yew]

And the hammerhead costs more than the russ

[plush swift]

leman russ should be a troop choice, change my mind

[unreal geyser]

This is really good to know! I had no idea, thanks for the info

[slender zodiac]

thats actually gross
i would make a "MLP jar and leave it on a heater" with a leman
but even i think thats too much zealotry

[plush swift]

its called purple plague, it gives credibility to corroding gold too

[slender zodiac]

environments? explain

[plush swift]

i'd have a guard army if they were

that being said, i still hate 9th and wont play it because of what they did to tanks

[narrow ice]

True, i joined during 9th and will skip 10th and maybe the rest of the seasons

[slender mantle]

hand reveal

[grizzled jolt]

Another custom ogryn.

[round plinth]

Ping - Bulwark!

[naive umbra]

First boxes just arrived. The Shas'o has asked my wallet to join for the Greater Good or be made to kneel. Outlook is grim.

[pastel grotto]

Pansy tau detected, deploying jetpack daemon possessed maniacs

[left egret]

Using disco lord base and in a tall box

Either that or using Styrofoam to transport it. I should be able to cut out the correct shape for it

[stark tundra]

So anyone got any vids on how to paint the 412th cadian? Can't find any and this image Has me drooling

[simple agate]

Sorry if this doesn't format correctly:)

[edgy jackal]

I think it's mostly down to personal skill, the colour schemes are already there. I can't replicate that, but you can see that the paint isn't chunky or chalky, so it was thinned and layered on well, lots of tiny chipping details that are properly highlighted (underscored?).

[sweet compass]

search up “eavy metal” painting style

lot of wet blending

[naive umbra]

Awesome improvement! For fluff you can just say the first techpriest got too close to a blast furnace or something was tempered in the Emperor's holy flame

[rare hornet]

I love comparisons between old and new painting

[lavish crescent]

CUSTODES!

[solemn oxide]

am I allowed to share a ton of pics

[novel jasper]

dust

[solemn oxide]

since it's a Nurgle themed game I'll just toss these in here...

[rare hornet]

The smelly marines

[solemn oxide]

Gassy

[rare hornet]

Looks funky

[solemn oxide]

nom.

[solemn oxide]

for nurgle that's a compliment i take it

[slate hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948605990994083880/1049661623511564369/IMG_20221206_131855.jpg

[naive umbra]

Love the eyes. All 37 of them

[slate hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948605990994083880/1049661623754821663/IMG_20221206_131901.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948605990994083880/1049661624002293820/IMG_20221206_131923.jpg

[solemn oxide]

jesus

titan?

[sweet compass]

I seen this posted before... on the sub..

[rare hornet]

Thunder thighs

[honest raft]

too much chaos lovers

[solemn oxide]

I posted the Land Raider and Daemon Prince

Not the Rhinos and the other angle of the daemon prince

[hard sand]

Got damn

[solemn oxide]

I AM glad to see someone actually recognized my stuff, gives me confidence it's distinct enough for them to remember it. 😄

[sweet compass]

the maulerfiend I definitely recognize

[hard sand]

They are really unique

[rare hornet]

:3

[sweet compass]

i'm not a big fan of the pre heresy DG with heavy mutation but there's a lot of work in the rhinos and they look great

[solemn oxide]

yeah, I have a 2nd one I never finished...

[hard sand]

That's why i love nurgle models

[solemn oxide]

yeah too bad most of my pics are really bad and the models are in deep storage now

lemme see if my oblis are worth posting

[sweet compass]

I always think they will look better with the DG green

the white is great on those don't get me wrong it must have been a real pain in the ass

just one mans opinion though

[solemn oxide]

about the only one worth posting

[solemn oxide]

Oh no, don't worry about it. I used my own colour schemes

[naive umbra]

That skeleton is sick

[sweet compass]

holy shit, how old is that obliterator

[solemn oxide]

my Nids are the main army and they're bright orange, everyone calls them the Lobster Army

[solemn oxide]

10,000 years old? 😄

[solemn oxide]

lol it was some other hobby kit thing i just bought for spares and used in all my bases

[sweet compass]

is it custom? that's not the new kit yeah?

[solemn oxide]

these are almost 100% kitbashed yeah

[sweet compass]

damn makes me think of the older oblits

[solemn oxide]

bought some forgeworld parts from friends, used some starter kits, nid spares, random bits

[sweet compass]

is that a hellstorm volley gun as the arm

[solemn oxide]

oh my oblis are the old obli bodies

no I literally made the arms from spare parts, cotton bud tubes and nid bits

oh and greenstuff

so much of it

[sweet compass]

wild +1 for effort

[solemn oxide]

eh i was young and had lots of free time back then...

these are like a decade old IRL

[sweet compass]

i'm about to get started on a heavily kitbashed SoH army for 30k

[solemn oxide]

i just like showing them off

[sweet compass]

I sold all my old shit from when I was younger

had 3k points skaven at one time

[solemn oxide]

dang

oh funny little detail, that red tassel on my oblis (all 3) are actually little handles so I can pull them out of the foam box...

[sweet compass]

lol I was curious about the topknots

[solemn oxide]

hehe

FLGS with my full nurgle army

well, it's a tiny army

yeah i was using a shitty old iphone then

[naive umbra]

Pics like this always make me dream about one day having a huge army all laid out and posed in sick terrain

[solemn oxide]

haha my nid army required two setups at home

one full table isn't enough

[digital sparrow]

Warlord?!

[safe spoke]

Finished layering my test model, any thoughts about the color scheme

My usual one is inverted of this but the top view of usual tabletop play makes them look very grey

[naive umbra]

I just started collecting for the first time (Tau). Already picturing towering battlesuits over a huge formation. Will likely be many years before I get there though

[solemn oxide]

looks lovely

[solemn oxide]

Tau... the shootiest army I love to hate.

[naive umbra]

My first intro to 40k was DoW1 and I fell in love with Tau from there

[solemn oxide]

figures. they do some good dakka in that game

[digital sparrow]

[slate hill]

Warmaster

[verbal ocean]

[slate hill]

Bigger than the Warlord

[digital sparrow]

I see

[wraith pelican]

wanted to share the diorama im working with

[verbal ocean]

no the dreanought :(

[wraith pelican]

any Ideas on how to get the armor dirtier?

[solemn oxide]

what downed him?

[digital sparrow]

Nuln Oil

[naive umbra]

If it's any consolation, the guard were my 2nd fav faction haha

[wraith pelican]

Its a rescue, costed me 3€

[wraith pelican]

who knows.. Not the votann that I can assure

[digital sparrow]

apply as much shade as you want

[safe spoke]

Like this looks alright

But when viewed while playing they just look grey

[solemn oxide]

I used that nurgle rust texture paint but it's been years, I don't remember what it's called.

[solemn oxide]

what's the goal? realistic camo or bright colours?

[wraith pelican]

but it will look too obvious on the white armour right?

[atomic rose]

Nuln oil on a white is a recipe for disaster. Go with agrax earthshade or seraphin sepia, or any other brown wash.

[wraith pelican]

thats what i was thinking..

[digital sparrow]

anything on white is a disaster

[safe spoke]

I wanted a vibrant blue with grey accents to stay somewhat grounded to reality

[wraith pelican]

but i like white 😦

[solemn oxide]

really dry drybrushing some rusty browns might work too

[safe spoke]

But the grey drowned out the blue while viewing from the top

[solemn oxide]

then drybrush white back over it

[wraith pelican]

he already rusty

weapon is not finished

[digital sparrow]

maybe try some soulblight grey

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBYI56KHol9SgE3v36eWiwXvtRFM6Qc-ONKyM-jwK13x8C-mADIjSNcu29yCx-RU2fGu-wsHspQpLbC2rqufjEjukKyKJOzQ

[wraith pelican]

intresting

[solemn oxide]

hm..... vibrant blues.... you'll want a lighter grey first.

suggest you test different blue primers, the base coat makes a huge difference in how your final paintjob comes out

especially since if you use washes everything turns a little darker

[wraith pelican]

I agree.. first time painting whites

[safe spoke]

Nah I’m happy with the blue I have

[atomic rose]

If you want to shade it, use either blue or purple wash and focus it just on the recesses. If you want to dirt it down, brown is the way to go.

[safe spoke]

It’s just the blue isn’t very visible from the top is all

Because from that view you mostly see the helmet and shoulder pads

[solemn oxide]

try drybrushing highlights onto the blue then?

[safe spoke]

They’re already edge highlighted

It’s not that the blue is too subtle

They are just literally not visible

[solemn oxide]

well, not much I can do then, it's very realistic camo

if you want brighter/vibrant some suspension of belief is required

[safe spoke]

Yea which is why I’m inverting the color scheme

So the blue goes on top

[solemn oxide]

that sounds like a great choice

@wraith pelican this is what sepia brown on white looks like

[wraith pelican]

on the tusk?

looks great

boney

[solemn oxide]

it's a tail kek

[safe spoke]

Like this is the top view of the guy I’m painting

[wraith pelican]

ah shit sorry

[solemn oxide]

that works way better

[wraith pelican]

it looks great anyways

[solemn oxide]

naw it's a nid, who knows what bodypart goes where.

[safe spoke]

Yea the blue is a lot more visible, even with the grey greatcoat

[wraith pelican]

thats one crazy detalied work congrats

[solemn oxide]

only the hive tyrants got that treatment lol

[safe spoke]

Haven’t shaded and highlighted that model tho

[wraith pelican]

absolutely goergeous

[solemn oxide]

it has potential for sure

[solemn oxide]

aw thanks

[rare hornet]

Could it be that the grey base is overpowering the blue?

[safe spoke]

Thats a lotta freehand

[solemn oxide]

oh found some nice pics my friend took for me

[safe spoke]

Hard to say. I will be switching to a grassy base regardless

[solemn oxide]

all my nids got freehand, even the damn gaunts

[wraith pelican]

that's crazy.. i love it

you are very talented

[rare hornet]

Yeah, could be that the backdrop to the models is grey?

[solemn oxide]

aw thanks xD

[wraith pelican]

the free hand on the wings is on another level dude

[solemn oxide]

took a few days

poor trygons were my test models for the freehand

[rare hornet]

That I believe

[wraith pelican]

Im sure they look great anyway

[solemn oxide]

oh hey i found some of the army

[wraith pelican]

dude cool army

[solemn oxide]

good ol' 5th ed and the Doom of Malan'tai

[wraith pelican]

amazingly colorful

[solemn oxide]

😄

yeah the lobster army.

[wraith pelican]

hahaha love it

Only thing that triggers me is the rim of the bases not being black

but i can tell you went for a VERY colorful army even on the rims

[solemn oxide]

oh the rims

when you play nids you absolutely need to know who belongs to what group

i colour coded the rims so I know who belongs to which group

HQs get gold rims 😄

[wraith pelican]

oh I see

[solemn oxide]

I remember when GW was still using some shitty resin casting for their zoans and I ended up using one for my Doom

[wraith pelican]

that makes a lot of sense

[solemn oxide]

yeah the gaunts can come in groups of up to 30, so......

[wraith pelican]

Never played with my minis..

my friends are far away

[solemn oxide]

aww

i stopped playing after i got married myself sooooo

[wraith pelican]

hahaha your wife doesnt paint?

[solemn oxide]

she's a digital artist. i let her try her hand at one of my models and she gave up after 10 minutes

[wraith pelican]

hahaha my gf is also a digital artist

and she helps me witht he models i dont want to paint hahhaha

she's a slow painter

but she's great

[solemn oxide]

that's sweet. something to do together

i raided in mmos with mine

[wraith pelican]

hahah that's sick

[sweet compass]

ahhhh finecast

you were not missed by anoyone

[solemn oxide]

not just any finecast

first gen finecast

luckily they went back to plastic right quick

[slender mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-deranged-stare-gif-25525909

[solemn oxide]

not in time to save my nids sadly

[sweet compass]

ahh I see now

[solemn oxide]

the FLGS couldn't move it

so they offered newcomer to the game me

a big ol' discount to buy it xD

ooh speaking of. An old finecast hive guard, much prettier than the ugly-ass plastic model they put out after that that could become a hive guard

and my maulerfiend's butt for good nurgly measure

[lavish crescent]

They kinda still do fine cast but only on the shitty older models

[solemn oxide]

I even have some pewtercast models but holy shit they're heavy and do NOT work well with any attempts at magnetization or transportation.

[clear folio]

Just finished painting my second mini ever last night, super happy with the results in comparison to my first attempt:

Good god, that image ended up being massive 😆

[solemn oxide]

Pretty awesome second mini!

[sweet compass]

yeah some of the skaven line is actually still pewter

insane

[pastel grotto]

Mini my ass

[left egret]

This weekend imma paint my first CSM mini (which really is justmy first mini)... wish me luck boys and gal

[pale valley]

I really want to paint a verminlord even though I mostly have 40k armies LOL

Feel like it’d be weird af to have thousand sons and then a giant ass rat next to them.

[atomic rose]

What do you mean. It's Tzeentch. Nothing is weird.

[pale valley]

Just use it as my lord of change

[solemn oxide]

my maulerfiend is a fantasy maggoth lord kitbashed w/ a maulerfiend...

[pale valley]

LOOL

Maulerfiends look so cool. I just gotta figure out a good color scheme for my army soon.

[sweet compass]

verminlord model is a pain in the ass just FYI

[pale valley]

Fr?

[sweet compass]

yeah its hot trash to put together unfortunately

[pale valley]

That sucks.

They look so cool.

[sweet compass]

get thanquol + boneripper IMO

that's a cool model

[pale valley]

Yeah that looks baller

[sweet compass]

I just picked this up from Forgeworld

probably one of their cooler models IMO

[pale valley]

My tastes are fucked cause I like the more chaos deformed models then the cool like built models

[violet quiver]

I finally finished painting my Chaos Chosen champion

[novel jasper]

Mom ❤️

[solemn oxide]

shades of nurgle

[celest crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-gif-21870111

Where did the blood come from...
WHY IS THERE BLOOD!

[sonic gull]

Finished up some good bois and a little 'un for a Scions force I'm starting out on.

[grizzled jolt]

One more custom ogryn. I just need my cadia stands box to arrive so I can put the commissar hat on one of them.

[arctic pelican]

My primaris kill team

[sweet compass]

nice, is that contrast white?

[arctic pelican]

No its zenithal, oil wash and thin highlights

[sweet compass]

looks good

[arctic pelican]

Thanks !

[grand fjord]

https://twitter.com/minuteman_media/status/1599715041636679680?s=46&t=PCJB0u17CxKxwStXbW52ZA

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[sweet compass]

headswapping the old cadians onto the new bodies

lmao

[lilac moth]

Whats the best way to get some really "shiny/glowy" effects for my nekrons?

currently experimenting with waagh skin as a base and then just drowning the shit in either tessaract glow or hexwraith flame

but kinda want even more eye popping glow than tessaract glow gives me

[sweet compass]

talking about the energy stuff?

definitely tessaract glow is the most utilized paint

you can get more eye pop by doing spec highlights w/ pure white

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2t4ZRyZhWk

I find the paint guide real useful for this one

[light nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFPHiwh2w98

[plush swift]

transparent paint and/or gloss varnish

[tranquil elk]

Jacked up n good to go.

[lilac moth]

The fuck are those starcraft visors?! I want some

[tranquil elk]

indeed. They are about 85% gw plastic but most of the custom bits me or my friend modeled and printed in resin.

[lilac moth]

Now i want to make a full on starcraft smurfmarine army -.-'

[tranquil elk]

lol can confirm its wicked fun I like mine a lot.

[lilac moth]

Dem tanks would be nice against nids

[pseudo shoal]

Those things look freaking amazing!

As a long time StarCraft guy absolutely adore those

[tranquil elk]

😁

[shrewd loom]

Does the new cadian box set have enough rifle arms to swap one of the arty crew into a rifleman?

[rare hornet]

Trying out ways to make the mud seem more naturalish. So far this seems to be a decent one

And yes I do need to tidy the base

[slender zodiac]

That looks loke actual mud

Good job

[left egret]

Started and finished this kitbash today

The legendary 3rd obliterator

[slender zodiac]

Jesus that would give me a heart attack trying to paint all those nooks

Good job tho

[left egret]

Yes am gonna die 💀

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[clear bear]

Funny little army man

[slender zodiac]

Just a little guy

[sweet compass]

pretty sweet printed thunder warrior

[solemn oxide]

My old haruspex magnetized to swap to exocrine 😄

And for fun, my DP’s custom built arm of decay

[limber widget]

Nice looking iron warrior

Iron within Iron without

[brazen notch]

Iron Within Iron Without

[solemn oxide]

I wonder if white glue with a little typhus corrosion would work for the edge of the boots... hm.

[safe spoke]

Yes

Some of the models have 2 variants of holding lasguns in different ways, therefore extra lasgun and lasgun arm parts

Also if you build a special weapon then there is a lasgun and lasgun arms left over

For example one of the models can either be built with holding a lasgun in 2 hands or running with a lasgun in one and a knife in the other. Build one and the other variant is left over

New heavy weapon squads don’t get lasguns tho, so be careful about taking them to WYSIWYG tournaments if you care about that

[shrewd loom]

Oh yeah I do not plan on ever doing tournaments lol. I only play with friends

[naive umbra]

Ah the famed lobsters! Looks great!

[solemn oxide]

crack em open and add butter. 😄

[solemn oxide]

I'm out of touch with the newer kits but that looks like a mix of deathguard termie torso and head, dreadnought legs, and some parts possibly from forgeworld or 3rd party kits?

looks sick though, any particular faction?

[brazen notch]

Necromunda Ambull

[solemn oxide]

Damn. GW does do good models. Shame they cost a new PC nowadays

[plush swift]

I dont know where they got the idea that was sepia because this is what sepia looks like

[tranquil elk]

lol its still less expensive than many hobbies.

[solemn oxide]

Me neither. Haha.

[plush swift]

its way less red and way more yellow

[solemn oxide]

True but I have bills 😦

[solemn oxide]

All I know is it makes my nids look gribbly so I use it. 😄

[plush swift]

The color is nice, I'm just annoyed by it being called sepia since sepia is from the ink sack of a cuttlefish

so it has a very specific look to it

[solemn oxide]

Oh? My understanding is 100% from ‘sepia photos’ haha

TIL

[pine yacht]

need some help deciding if the gobbo claus is worth making,
what do you guys thing?

[plush swift]

yes, its always worth making

[solemn oxide]

Gobbo Claus delivered by Shokk Kannon right into the umies’ guts

[pine yacht]

pointy bitz with icicles and candy canes

[solemn oxide]

It IS a shokk gun that meks teleprt grots with right?

[pine yacht]

the shokk kannon?

i think

[plush swift]

Shokk attack gun

which yes, does teleport things into other things

which is why canonically, orks can loot titans as it bypasses their armor

[pine yacht]

teleport a mekboy into a emperor titan and watch him tear it apart

give it an hour maybe and he'll turn it into a mega trukk

[solemn oxide]

The ultimate kitbash

[pine yacht]

bring the mechanicus to tears

[solemn oxide]

Conniptions even

I doubt they retain tear ducts

Or lacrymal glands

[pine yacht]

the binary screams

[warped token]

The Blackwatch. My work in progress kill team.

[thorny belfry]

a attempt at making a Guardsman with limited choices that are within heroforge

they do have a legally distinct looking chainsword and Bolter that's described as a 'SMG' and that weird assault rifle thingy is the close I could get to something that looks oddly like a las gun

[narrow ice]

The emperor approves

Might still be cheaper than 40k

[grave wyvern]

Reminds me of tf2 scout

[solemn oxide]

hm? why are my messages being removed

[solemn oxide]

techpriest binary scream: 000000

[naive umbra]

I'm trying to decide how to build my first Tau Commander, I'm torn because I like the idea of the Coldstar mobility and zipping around to surprise opponents and take objectives, but worried that as a novice I'll be too noob to use him effectively and just kamikaze him into spots that will get him killed. Would you guys recommend just running an Enforcer as first Commander?

[narrow ice]

I ran him with 2 fusions, a prototype flamer and the onager gauntlet relic (i forgor what the 4th slot was used for)

The idea is to give him...master of the hunt? So that he re-rolls all hits and wounds

[naive umbra]

I will be magnetising my weapons, so loadouts less important, just not sure what suit to actually build

[narrow ice]

With 2 melta profiles, a strong flamer profile used in both shooting and melee

Just charge him in alongside breachers for a solid mont'ka

[edgy jackal]

If you want to make it, go for it. For of the minis I made in the past have a winter base and/or frosting on them, and they don't look "in season" in the warmer months, but that doesn't matter, because they're my minis.

[rare hornet]

Iron Within Iron Without

[plush swift]

I finally got the nerve to start my killteam. The ultramarine transfer could be better but I'm overall happy with the first guy

I'll work on my other guys after work today so I'll share them as I finish them

[dry leaf]

Oh wait I forgot I made an army list last night

[rare hornet]

That is a lot of golden boys

[left egret]

Nope just an ambot with forms from Chaos terminator lord slapped on as well as lascannon and minugun from 30k and the auticannon from lord discordant

Oh and staff from termie chaos sorcerer

Unsurprisingly it is chaos.

Using it as proxy for an obliterator

[rare hornet]

To be fair they’re not too bad, I think you might have used a slightly too big ultramarines decal though

[solemn oxide]

Freehand it. 😄

[rare hornet]

Same. And space marine shoulders seem to either work perfectly fine or they don’t want to sit flat at all

[plush swift]

I may have yeahh

[rare hornet]

Ah well, you live you learn

He’s looking good all things considered

[plush swift]

Custard army

Is this for like, a models army or for something more software

[dry leaf]

I do have some models it's more my shopping list on what to get and paint

[plush swift]

Let the goldening begin!

[sweet compass]

really recommend microsol and microset to you

as well as cutting a vertical slit from the middle of the U to the top of the decal

both can really help you out with transfers

nice marine bud

Ive been trying to get better with decals too. it’s a pain in the ass

[sweet compass]

these are real sweet

[crimson ermine]

Painted up an Ork last night, just for fun really. Gonna 3d print him a properly sized base that's more industrial sometime soon.

[rare hornet]

Green is best

[plush swift]

Also any way I can try to keep bumps/bubbles out of my primer? Everytime I prime them i get tiny divots in the paint

[rare hornet]

What are you priming with?

Spray can or brush?

[plush swift]

Spray can

[rare hornet]

You might be holding the can too close

Try and get approximately 20cm away

And do the coats in short sprays. You can always add more paint but can’t take it away

[plush swift]

Okay. I'll try that next time

You have no idea how much I appreciate the tips

[rare hornet]

Oh and little too before and after you spray anything. Hold the can upside down and do a quick spray

That should keep the lid from clogging as quick

[plush swift]

Ahh

Ive never heard to do that

[rare hornet]

No clue how that works but apparently it does

[plush swift]

I'll take your word on it and try it out next time

[rare hornet]

Righto

[novel jasper]

hold it further away from the model

primer also has acetone so having too much could also melt the model a little

i speak from experience

[plush swift]

Oo that must've sucked

[sweet compass]

what's the temperature like outside?

and humidity?

this can greatly impact primer finish

[brisk vapor]

yeah and when you start don't spray the first sprays on the model to avoid the said possible clogging residue

[plush swift]

Kinda like 40 below and it's illinois so kinda humid. I've been priming them then bringing them straight inside where it's probably about 60 and less humid

[sweet compass]

could be why this is happening

check your primer online for the humidity recommendation

big temp changes can sometimes effect things but I don't see a big possibility of that if you're bringing them immediately inside

[shrewd loom]

I prime mine inside the garage with the door open, rip a butt, spray again then bring inside. Haven't had any bumps or anything yet. (N.H.)

This being the result

[sweet compass]

lmao rip a butt

as is tradition

hacking darts while priming

[shrewd loom]

What can I say, I'm an ass man.

[lilac moth]

I'm the type of smooth brain that primes on my balcony. At -20C

[sweet compass]

canadian detected?

I do this too lol

[lilac moth]

Fin

But basically the same, just replace hospitality with hostility

[sweet compass]

lmao

same booze though

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-booze-boozehound-wasted-alcohol-gif-23077846

[lilac moth]

ITS ALL THE FUCKING SAME WHEN YOU REACH THESE TEMPERATURES

if its some lady drink that has <40% it will just freeze over on the way back home from the shop

[sweet compass]

balls are achin', the brain is shakin', I wish I was Jamaican

[plush island]

To infinity and beyond

[lilac moth]

Am i genius or retard? Started thinking if i can prime my parts before taking them off the pruce thingy that they come in?

Just take the whole sheet of parts, spray it like its bedbug and flip over and repeat

[sweet compass]

do NOT prime on sprue in my opinion you will always regret it

a) moldlines

[lilac moth]

oh right...

[sweet compass]

b) flash that you will have to cut off and fuck up your prime

c) it'll get all messy unless you use the mini parts immediately from the sprue

imo it's only useful for heads and even then just cut it off and stick it on a toothpick w/ sticky tack

[lilac moth]

quess im buying compressor and airbrush then...

[sweet compass]

you can just buy a rattlecan if you dont want to make that investment

[rare hornet]

A good thing to do depending on the model is cut and clean the piece of any remaining sprue etc prime the parts then build them

[sweet compass]

any spray primer for plastic from the hardware store will work

[lilac moth]

Got mah grey primer

[sweet compass]

personally I do some sub assembly but you gotta be careful not to prime glue areas

[rare hornet]

Yeah, that’s the main issue with that

[sweet compass]

even then I will only go so far as like, heads, arms weps separate

otherwise it's a lot of work for things people won't really see

[rare hornet]

For things like tanks and other big stuff then I find priming before building helps

[sweet compass]

kind of want an airbrush anyways for that stuff IMO

[lilac moth]

Bold of you to assume i dont paint while under a magnifying lamp and hating myself for missing a damn 0.5nm spot hidden behind 3 different parts

[sweet compass]

I did a brush painted drukhari raider earlier this year

it was a pain in the ass

[rare hornet]

Hand painted a baneblade

[shrewd loom]

So I've typically just done light glue and attached the arms etc to prime. Let it dry then carefully remove heads arms etc.

[rare hornet]

That was… interesting

[sweet compass]

lol, brutal

[rare hornet]

I’m fearing the shadowsword

[sweet compass]

I don't really understand

I just toothpick in cardboard and cover the attachment point w/ blue-tac

same w/ the socket joint on the model

[lilac moth]

I'm so close to just yeeting my nekron cannon fodder warriors in to a pot full of old rust and calling it a day. Some of these motherfuckers are not newbie friendly

[sweet compass]

necron warriors are definitely not newbie friendly

the arms...

[lilac moth]

push to fit nekron warriors i should add..

My hands are like 30 sizes too big for this shit 😄

[sweet compass]

oof yeah those are brutal

[rare hornet]

Marines are decent to start with. They’re quite simple to build and paint

[shrewd loom]

So I'm lazy and stupid as fuck. So I don't ever go out of my way to get blue stuff or anything. I'll put a minimal amount of glue and attach the arms and heads. Then prime. Once the primer is dry I'll remove the arms and heads and paint separately.

Again, because I'm fucking stupid and inefficient.

[sweet compass]

for me push to fit is even more difficult than glue

[sweet compass]

lol this is madness

[lilac moth]

Ye wife got me the elite starter box so i got few smurfmarines and some nekrons to start learning this stuff

[novel jasper]

honestly my first mini was a necron and holy shit

those arms are so flimsy

[rare hornet]

Most of what I paint is done by hand then I build the model as I go

[novel jasper]

and i had to use super glue

[sweet compass]

the ghost ark is like the most difficult to assemble model GW makes IMO

[novel jasper]

it was pure pure terror

it came out pretty good though

[shrewd loom]

Yeah I'm just lazy and stupid lmao. But it gets them to an alright tabletop ready

[sweet compass]

just order blue tac on amazon lol. get a lifetime supply

[lilac moth]

Thinking of getting a black or smurfmarine blue primer since i plan on getting a small-ish marine army for my first diorama

[sweet compass]

I can't imagine cracking off glued bits to repaint haha

it's plastic glue? or superglue?

[novel jasper]

i have to use milliput instead of green stuff

do not mix not dried milliput and super glue bruh

rancid and horrible stuff to clean

[shrewd loom]

What's it called just blue tac? I'm waiting on cadian stands and 3rd party heads lol so I might as well.

[novel jasper]

poster tac, blue tac

[shrewd loom]

Y'all the mvps

[sweet compass]

https://www.amazon.ca/Loctite-Fun-Tak-Mounting-2-Ounce-1270884/dp/B003LZMHIY/ref=asc_df_B003LZMHIY/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292993973230&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5179821545513726307&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061022&hvtargid=pla-320661376223&psc=1

generally called "mounting putty"

[sweet compass]

imo just don't use superglue

unless it's on resin

[rare hornet]

The gorilla gel superglue I’ve been using has been alright for the resin

I highly doubt it’ll be good for the bigger kits

[sweet compass]

I use CGel

it's decent

[sweet compass]

get the tamiya stuff for this. use it as normal then paint over the interior "crack". I find this is a good way to do support

[novel jasper]

yeah but it was metal to plastic

i have collected a bunch of OOP metal minis over the last few months

going to paint them as black templars

[rare hornet]

Well I plan to do a fellblade and that looks like a rather ‘simple’ kit

It a big kit but the parts for the most of it are big

Not small intricate stuff

[sweet compass]

yeah fair enough there

[shrewd loom]

So you said you blue tac arms etc and prime? Or just toothpick prime those separate to get full coverage?

[sweet compass]

not much of a choice

[sweet compass]

I'll assemble the mini on base without the arms / bolter / weapons / head

then blue tac the mini to a cardboard sheet

cover any areas I don't want primer with blue tac (arm sockets, neck socket, etc)

grab the arms / bolter / weapons / head and stick them on a blob of bluetac on the end of a toothpick, stick that into the cardboard alongside, with the blue tac blob at the point of attachment (shoulder / neck, etc)

prime everything in 1 go

like so

[shrewd loom]

Oh fuck I never even thought of that. I just end up going over everything multiple times when actually painting to try and get it clean. I normally glue the model to base then put on cardboard. But Ive got a bunch of 9mm styrofoam cases I can just toothpick to and prime.

[sweet compass]

styrofoam be careful. primer has acetone in it

it will melt the styro

[shrewd loom]

Oh good call

[lilac moth]

Pizza box priming masterrace

[compact umbra]

i didn tknow thats waht centerions looked like with out a head

[lilac moth]

Now glue a ork head in there!

[sweet compass]

that's a cataphractii terminator

a cataphractarius

lol

[compact umbra]

i completely forgot what they were called lmao

[sweet compass]

how could you

GW spent 4.5 billion pounds developing a foolproof name that will never be copied

that's clearly a cataphractarius adeptus astartes aeldari tempestus

[split raven]

Good to be back again

[sweet compass]

hand reveal

we know what your hand looks like now

[lilac moth]

Can someone explain that meme to me? I keep seeing it

[split raven]

I will blur it next time

I promise 😂

[sweet compass]

well before they posted this image no one understood what their hand looked like

now we have this information

i have already saved it to my Drive folder saved to my personal server in Switzerland

I now own their hand, do you see? I have established capitalistic ownership of their appendage through the principle of remote ownership

[lilac moth]

This sounds like its on the level of knowing a demons true name and getting true power over it? adamigo u fuckd

[sweet compass]

literally the case

as I now own the image of the hand, the total supply of adamigo50 hand images has decreased

as he is no longer sole proprietor

[lilac moth]

Gotta 3d print a demon hand i can use for taking pictures 😄

[sweet compass]

all I have to do now is wait

on an infinite timescale the increase of demand in adamigo50 hand images can only increase

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

I have done this already with 50,000 hands, some of which I have sourced from this very channel

[lilac moth]

Now he needs to start spamming hand pics to drive the price down!

[sweet compass]

I call this "diversifying my portfolio"

[lilac moth]

inb4 there is a .rar file with 10TB of wh players hands somewhere on the web 😄

[sweet compass]

shut the fuck up asshole you're gonna ruin it for everybody

do NOT tank warhammer hand stocks

there IS NO such secret depository for anyone reading this

it DOES NOT exist

continue to invest in warhammer player hands

[lilac moth]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-19055033

[sweet compass]

I now own your hand

it has been added to the repository

[lilac moth]

bitch please i have OF where i post pics of my paint tainted hands daily!

[sweet compass]

OnlyHands?

[lilac moth]

jeesus i need to reserve that domain name

[sweet compass]

https://www.onlyhands.com/

what a waste

[lilac moth]

biggest source of crusty wh player hands. Entry special now only for 5 28mm bases

[sweet compass]

for the next two weeks only we are selling premium hand picks for a bacon sandwich and a kiss on the forehead before bed

[lilac moth]

choco chip cookie and "you a good boy" or no deal!

[sweet compass]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-if-youre-allowed-to-do-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-i-dont-think-its-legal-isnt-that-illegal-you-cant-do-that-gif-22351224

[obsidian tapir]

WIP Painting a wounded marine for a dreadnought base, unfortunately the primer cracked while I was spraying

[novel jasper]

that looks absolutely phenominal

[obtuse vine]

holy hell, that's impressive

[obsidian tapir]

Thank you ❤️

I was trying to stick him on a terminator base previously to make it look like a veteran brother came to his aid, but sadly there isn’t enough space on the base

[obtuse vine]

The look kind of gives of a "If I am to die, I die standing!" vibe and I can imagine that would only increase once they're on the base

[obsidian tapir]

Yeah, I’m going to try stick a leviathan dreadnought looming over him on a war torn base now

May stick some heretic corpses and his severed hand still wielding his gun on the base

This was the terminator who would’ve shared the base with the wounded marine

[tender ocean]

It’s my near complete Krieg unit, I just don’t know what color to make their backpacks yet

[obsidian tapir]

Nice, I love the blue stripe on their shoulder plate

[novel jasper]

i dont get how people can use such formidable minis just for basing

[sweet compass]

wow

talk about burying the lead lmao

[plush swift]

The cracking adds to the effect

Like his ceramite armor is just worn and he’s ready to die

[tender ocean]

I was planning on having the stripe be a way to differentiate squads. Also I thought the blue helped when they’d be deployed by my Valkyrie

[obsidian tapir]

That’s a pretty good idea for squad markings, also nice valk paint job

[lilac moth]

Nuln oil or earthshade if i want the gold to look old?

[thorny trellis]

Old, I’d say earthshard

[rare hornet]

I have something along the lines of that

[sweet compass]

i'd go w nihilakh oxide too

[lilac moth]

Im gonna need more paints...

[sweet compass]

honestly I'd look into the Army Painter washes

they are cheap and very nice, and pigmented

for old gold I usually do Vallejo's Glorious Gold mixed with a little bit of leather brown, and wash it with fleshtone wash

[feral valley]

I'm going to get a titan. Should I get a warhound since they look cool and I could bring it to normal 40k games for a laugh, or should I just say fuck it and get a big one, like the reaver or warlord?

[obsidian tapir]

That’s dope love the way to did the blood for the downed ultramarine

[tender ocean]

Warhound, because then you can laugh at the laughable attempts to bring down your one model army at your local game store. All in good fun of course.

[feral valley]

It do be true.

Though it actually would die pretty easily haha

[rare hornet]

Thanks!

[sweet compass]

get a 3d printer instead and have all 3

(IMO)

[shrewd nest]

I need to buy one too, I want a Steel Legion army but I dont think they can be bought anymore right

[obsidian tapir]

Company command blade master dude I painted a while ago

[pastel grotto]

Tonight on darktide

The enemies spawn right behind you

And the garrison you saw guarding the bridge is doing jack shit

[tough moat]

I dont play death guard nor nurge demons,but converted this demon prince of nurge.I think im gonna jam a bunch of wires into his noggin.

He is massive

[sweet compass]

looks great

[compact umbra]

Omg I love them so much, im@planning on getting them when I start my gloomspite gitz

[sweet compass]

they're great models

[proper blaze]

I just painted my first mini!

[obsidian tapir]

Nice!

[shrewd loom]

yo question for anybody with the new Guard codex, is the only difference between an Infantry squad and Shock troops is INF squads can take HW? Like, are they basically the same but INF squads are more so there for non Cadian regiments?

[young basalt]

Shocktroop sergeant can get a autogun that gives him rapid 2

[sweet compass]

lookin good

[shrewd loom]

ope word. I missed that, rolling with some Praetorian guard so guess I'm stuck with inf squad lol.

[young basalt]

Also get two special weapons instead of one as well.

[shrewd loom]

Ehhh, more fitting for Praetorians to just roll 9 lasguns lmao. Not meta at all but I only play with friends so I don't mind getting fucked

[steel elbow]

That looks awsome!

[proper blaze]

thanks guys! wait till you see the darktide computer case ive been building B)

[next pollen]

im actually looking for another army i had to sadly get rid of my chaos marines and my grey knights

[sweet compass]

have you considered 30k

I'm having a blast

the new plastic stuff is sweet

[shrewd loom]

Go Praetorian! We need the love lmao maybe we'll get a codex mention

[sweet compass]

you have a Praetorian Guard army???

pics

[shrewd loom]

I had a fuck load of old Cadian infantry converted with WWI Brit Brodie helmets. Just sold that to my friend and I'm now starting the Praetorian guard lol. I'll pin this and post pics once I get some more progress as I'm waiting on 3rd party bits right now.

[sweet compass]

wild

[shrewd loom]

yup, he made off with 100+infantry, like 20 HW teams, three chimeras and like four russes

[errant drum]

Just recently finished painted it with my new brushes.

[pine yacht]

looks great! how long have you been painting?

[sweet compass]

wow this is an old marine yes?

[errant drum]

Recently got back like 1 year. It to help my mental health problems and stress after covid.

[errant drum]

It new one.

I think

[sweet compass]

I mean relatively

nice job I would offer the advice of thinning your paint a bit more

[proper blaze]

brother. painting your models rawdog with no wet pallet and not checking it on your thumbnail is bigtime heresy

[sweet compass]

he’s beautiful like any model

[proper blaze]

lololol

that is true

[sweet compass]

every model painted is an accomplishment

that being said I would also recommend a wet palette and primer

[proper blaze]

im just saying, dudes taking "two light coats" and throwing it way the fuck out the window

[errant drum]

Am still practicing and it learning as I can. I like painting any models and factions. Even am tau player

[proper blaze]

except for your metallics tho!!!!

[sweet compass]

constructive criticism friendo, this person is a beginner

it won’t win golden daemon but we gotta support people in the hobby

[proper blaze]

i am being constructive, sir im sorry im not making fun of the dude

[sweet compass]

sure, just sayin’.

[proper blaze]

no no definitely, maybe that sounded too negative feel free to pick mine to pieces i encourage it

point taken tho, if OP reads this im not trying to be shitty to you, im glad youre painting

[errant drum]

Criticism is always good on building motivation and improvement. Everyone have their taste of art of miniature painting.

[proper blaze]

have you seen the cell shaded tau that keeps circling around reddit?

i tried to do it, i cant pull it off

[sweet compass]

yeah its bonkers

did you see the titan he did

[proper blaze]

noooooo

https://tenor.com/view/excited-im-so-my-gif-23990832

[sweet compass]

https://preview.redd.it/my-tau-titan-2-more-on-the-go-will-get-better-pics-up-at-v0-oyofgjhwoaw91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ee8650019948a0e10b728fb732f46fdf900fbce1

[errant drum]

No. Never heard it yet until now

[sweet compass]

crazy

[errant drum]

That is sexy as hell.

Is that forgeworld model right?

[proper blaze]

thats pretty neat, but honestly the low poly on the little one pulls off the effect better. kinda less is more.
but that looks really great I like that there isnt volumetric lighting forced everywhere from the gun

[sweet compass]

i dunno I would say this is one of the crispest paintjobs ive ever seen

[proper blaze]

i keep looking at it more, its growing on me. its very gunpla

[sweet compass]

the white is stupid

not a brush stroke to be seen

tamiya panel liner

[proper blaze]

tastes great!

oh we are talking about different guys

hold on

no same guy

i LOVE the cell lines on these

[sweet compass]

not really my taste but impressive

that gun is… pretty long

[meager kiln]

new desk for painting

[pine yacht]

thats a gorgeous view outside

rain must be incredible

[velvet geyser]

a kitbash of a technoarchaeologist i made a while back

[prime scarab]

My favorite mini is home at last

[velvet geyser]

that is so good

[prime scarab]

I didn't do much with it. Iirc, I based this buy with Death Guard Green and applied lots of Coelia

And I drybrushed some ushabti bone on where the nurglings are coming out

And I applied a generous amount of Typhus Corrosion on the metal parts

[naive umbra]

Yup, it's the KX139 Taunar Supremacy suit. I'm completely new to 40k, just started collecting Tau but I know this one coz I've been staring at it like a little kid licking the windows at Christmas lol

[jolly galleon]

Reworking an old abaddon

[prime scarab]

I know this is lame wysiwyg but at least its still wysiwyg

A Daemon Prince with a Hellforged sword and Plauge Spewer

Actually, why dont i give him a fourth arm

[rotund spoke]

Anyone know Drukhari? Im trying to put together a 500 point and 1000 point army list.
I just played with a few buddies and realized I have no idea what im doing. Even after watching a ton of youtube guides/tutorials.

[slender zodiac]

Welcome to tabletop

[elfin yew]

What do you have in terms of models

[solemn oxide]

Oh man. A fast glass cannon army. Depends on what you want to specialize in though. Melee? Shooty? They do best with a specific focus I think.

[rotund spoke]

@elfin yew @solemn oxide
This is what ive got so far. I plan on adding Drazhar soon, and some wracks a little later.

[elfin yew]

Just a sec

[rotund spoke]

Thanks guys. I was expecting my buddies to have an idea and help me learn my guys. But nope. They have no clue and I learned Drukhari have a lot things other factions dont. Like drugs!

[prime scarab]

Drukhari are drugged up space elfs

with lots of fetishes and other things and yet they do not like Slaanesh

[solemn oxide]

Yours looks like assault focused. Don’t know the rule changes since 6th ed but rule of thumb is use the cheap units to tie up weaker shooters in melee while your specialists go to work on high priority targets like other assault units or heavy weapons

Drukhari get really fast vehicles so transporting them might help. Hit and run with heavy weapons on a transport is also a legit tactic

Yeah drugged up space elves with toxic weapons that melt your flesh before you even realize it’s happening.

[rotund spoke]

How is the hit n run tactic possible? It seems as after my attack, i dont get another move, other than charge. Then the enemy can get in range and attack me before i can run away.

[elfin yew]

500pts is a bit limiting so it's going to be like 2 combat patrols. One's going to look like

Archon

2 x5 Kabalites with splinter rifles, who are just your goons who do objectives

then a raider in that detachment, for a Kabal trait

then a second patrol with a succubus and like 3 x5 wyches

[solemn oxide]

Put your vehicles in difficult terrain. You should have special rules for hover vehicles I think. For them to take difficult terrain rolls. Max range of your guns too.

[elfin yew]

Relics and such are up to you but I suggest triptych whip/competitive edge succubus

[rotund spoke]

also the poison weps, i didnt really understand what that was doing. My guys instead of having 2 hit rolls, it took them to 3 or 4s. but the enemy would still be able to roll for saves and hit most of the time.

[elfin yew]

It gives a good taste of a incredibly lethal drukhari warlord

[solemn oxide]

Poisoned (x) rules basically wound on that number regardless of the target’s toughness

[elfin yew]

Yeah, they tend to have basically no ap though so most things(especially things in cover) they wont harm very well

[solemn oxide]

Most drukharis have base 3 or 4 but some can go to 2+

Yeah the goal is to force armour saves

Or cover saves

[elfin yew]

Don't rely on splinter weapons to actually like, do damage unless It's into like guard or GSC or some other ridiculously fragile infantry

[rotund spoke]

What type of terrain? My buddy I was playing with makes maps. He has road, and buildings.
I will suggest something of more difficult terrain.

[solemn oxide]

That’s super situational since it’s your friends. But craters, walls, rocks, anything that isn’t perfectly flat can count as difficult terrain. You need to agree on this before a game

I played Nids so I always got Move Through Cover rolls

Anything that would trigger that is difficult terrain

[rotund spoke]

ok, understood

[solemn oxide]

Also it’s all about risk management and target priority. You’re shooting at targets that might shoot back. Is it worth the risk or do you go for squisher targets or those that can’t shoot back

Drukhari absolutely gotta gang up on targets to pile wounds on cuz they die real fast

[elfin yew]

Your skimmers all fly which means you can be very cagey about hiding behind things with little issues getting there yourself

That's actually how p much all the eldar factions behave with their transports/vehicles

Aeldari armies rely on the "Don't be acquired/Don't be there" part of the protection onion typically

[rotund spoke]

so flying, does that mean I cant get charged?

[elfin yew]

It means you basically ignore terrain for movement

You can 'go through' walls

with vehicles

[solemn oxide]

Yeah vehicles with skimmer rules are good for going across terrain normal vehicles find Dangerous

[elfin yew]

Which means you can hide a raider behind an obscuring building where it can't be shot, then pop out at its leisure

Or more usually with Venoms embarked with 5 wyches

Start them in hiding, then move their full distance, then charge

[solemn oxide]

I don’t know if drukhari can charge immediately upon disembarking. Been a while since I played TT sorry

[elfin yew]

Your entire gameplan with Drukhari is going to be delivering your incredibly lethal payloads of [Wyches/Incubi/dark lance fire] before they die

They can't, but you get the transport stuck onto you renemy then disembark your next turn

Ideally you stick into something shooty that can't kill you

In melee

Then force the fallback, and then, even if your venom dies, your wyches pop out regardless next turn

[rotund spoke]

But there is no way to pop back in after attack? So its not really like hit n run?

[elfin yew]

It's more like a hit and blender them

You Kill Them Big Time

Hit and Run is more for harlequins

Your infantry is cheap but punches up HARD

Harlequins and CWE do hit and run, you stick in and blender

Your shooting units can play like that, but Drukhari's big hits come in from melee

[solemn oxide]

When I say hit and run I mean constantly engage a target at maximum range and every Movement phase you stay out of reach of their guns

[rotund spoke]

ahhh tha tmakes sense

[solemn oxide]

But only if you have heavy weapons on a transport with that kind of range.

Tau are undisputed masters of shooty hit n run though

They even get special rules to move during assault

[elfin yew]

Drukhari are predominantly about basically bullying your opponent into their deploy zone with hyper aggressive melee, and are cheap enough to fill the board with it

Oh another thing that's like

not really a meta adviec thing, but something just good to know

[solemn oxide]

Poison and monowire everywhere. 🤮

[elfin yew]

You can tag transports as whatever Obsession you want and still embark other 'obsessions'

This is very helpful for example

Tagging a raider as Black heart and embarking it with cult of strife wyches

[rotund spoke]

My buddies are playing Tyranids, and Necrons. Another that wont be playing often is using blood angels

[elfin yew]

The raider can adv/charge turn 1

Tyranid Pain

[solemn oxide]

Tyranids are my main 😄

We’re the punching bags of the TT game

[elfin yew]

Uh

They're the strongest army in the game right now

[solemn oxide]

Oh?

[elfin yew]

Well, top 3, ARGUABLY the best

[solemn oxide]

Wow how the tables turned

When I played nids were what people tested their armies on

[elfin yew]

Anyways, into Necrons wyches should blender. They put out such a high attack volume that they should be able to cut through stuff

I also do bigly suggest the triptych whip/competitive edge Cult of Strife succubus

She will cut through tyranid monsters

and well, everything, very effectively

Also do you know how power from pain works?

[rotund spoke]

With wyches, I needed 4 rolls to hit and then they said even with my poison, I needed 5 to do damage because their toughness was high.... Forgot what exactly they were fighting

[elfin yew]

Because I mostly know all of this because my boyfriend plays Drukhari and for the firs tlike, 2 months of playing didn't realize it was cumulative

[solemn oxide]

I don’t know 9th ed rules but that sounds like bullhockey

[elfin yew]

Wyches hit on 3s, should wound on 5s because their weapons aren't poison

[rotund spoke]

ok that sounds right

[elfin yew]

But they also put out like

21 attacks

for a unit of 5

Also

You can change your combat drugs at the start of each battle

[rotund spoke]

a unit of 5? Does that mean 5 in that group?

[elfin yew]

For Necrons, give your wyches grave lotus, and they begin wounding necron warriors on 4s

Yeah like

5 wyches

[rotund spoke]

ok

[elfin yew]

They make.. 3 attacks each base? Then +1 from Hekartarii blades, then their Hekatrix makes an extra attack

So they make 21 total

[rotund spoke]

And they also said im stuck with the same 2 rolls i did for the combat drugs at beginning of game.

[elfin yew]

That is true, but you don't have to roll combat drugs

You can also just pick 1

It's pick 1 or roll for 2

[rotund spoke]

So its better to pick 1 each phase?

[elfin yew]

You pick 1 for the whole battle

P much the unit doesnt change their drugs for the entire battle

For each unit

So different units can have different drugs, but they must stick with them the entire game

[rotund spoke]

ah, so it sounds like I should pick 1 for each unit

[elfin yew]

Yee, also not every unit gets combat drugs, just like

Mostly wych cult units

Wyches obvs, Reavers too I believe

It'll say on their datasheet

[rotund spoke]

So i need to figure out which units are best with each combat drug

[elfin yew]

It's more often going to be about which drug is best against which opponents

And that too yus!

[rotund spoke]

Any suggestions for Tyranids and Necrons?

[elfin yew]

You pick your drugs before the battle, not in list creation, so you can 'counterpick' your drugs

Necrons grave lotus, you hit S4 on Hekartarii blades and start wounding on 4s instead of 5s against most of their infantry which is a major jump

For Tyranids it depends

If they're running swarms, Adrenalight

If they're not, Grave lotus again.

[rotund spoke]

for all troops

thank you!

[elfin yew]

Yuss

Another thing to look at is your stratagems

Esp if you run cult of strife for your wyches

They have a supplement which adds alot

including a 2cp reroll all wounds stratagem in melee

Cult of Strife is like, comically overloaded with good stuff that really all the cults should have since supplement

[rotund spoke]

What about Kabal, Cult, and Coven? I read that I can take 2 or even all 3

[elfin yew]

Yeah, Drukhari are unique since you have 3 subfactions

Each one gets an obsession

So you'll usually have a Kabal choice, a cult choice, and a coven choice

[rotund spoke]

So 1 for each attack group?

[elfin yew]

P much

[rotund spoke]

and each attack group lead by a HQ?

[elfin yew]

Detachment, but yee

And they can, in some circumstances, just all be in 1 detachment

Your combat patrols are free so in lower point games you can just run a detachment for each of the 3 subfactions, once you hit like 1k pts you can start running a realspace raid

[rotund spoke]

so running 500 point, all in 1 detachment.
doing 1k points, would I use 2, or just do 3?

[elfin yew]

For 500 pts I'd run 2

For 1k you could either run 3, or just run 1 realspace raid

Either way, they all get an obsession

[elfin yew]

This was my mockup 500pt list

It's very simple

[rotund spoke]

realspace raid is all 3 obsessions in 1 detachment?

[elfin yew]

Yee p much

+Your Archon gets a unique aura

where he gives Reroll 1's to all core units rather than just kabal

[rotund spoke]

yea that looked nice. But i never used it as I always forgot about it.

[elfin yew]

It's not too relevant until you hit higher points

since in lower point games you can't really afford all 3 anyway

For that 500 pt list, I'd run Blackheart for the Kabal detachment and Cult of Strife for the wych detachment

Gameplan for it is as follows:

Game begins with 2 squads of wyches and the succubus in the raider, it hides behind obscuring terrain

the raider is Blackheart

The 2 kabalite squads will be hiding behind obscuring but will move into a shooting position with the Archon on our first turn, the lone, unembarked wych team shall do th e same but will be running forward

Our first turn rolls, the raider Aethersails(1cp to add +8" for an advance) then charges into something vulnerable in the enemy's back

When the raider is attacked, it Lightning Fasts for 1cp, -1 to hit. And it hopefully survives, but if not, it is not the end of the world

Then all our wyches and our succubus disembark and should mulch basically everything around them

[rotund spoke]

with that, If its within movement range, Can i still use charge?

[elfin yew]

Yes, so

Because the Raider is tagged as Blackheart, it gets their obsession

which adds +1 to our 'round' for the Power from pain chart

Thus, turn 1, we get advance and charge on it

The raider is so fast it might not even have to advance, but Aethersails for 22" raider movement means It's not likely to not reach something

[rotund spoke]

So thats a 1 turn and then dead after? Like it cant run away?

[elfin yew]

It could, if it survived, and at 500pts it might very well survive then fallback and continue firing its dark lances the entire game

But if it doesn't, it's okay, because It has served its purpose of delivering a melee blob into the enemy

[rotund spoke]

Ok, now with that, should it go after a lot of small units, or should it hit 1 big HQ?

[elfin yew]

The raider should try to tag whatever is good at shooting to tie them up in melee

Ideally multiple units but really anything that's annoying to tag p much

[rotund spoke]

ohhhhh

[elfin yew]

We really dont want our raider to charge into something that will just kill it in melee on the turn it charged though, so no going into like, necron lychguard or a melee oriented nid beast

You can do the same thing with a Venom too, just with half the amount of wyches but it's alot cheaper

[rotund spoke]

with that 500 pt suggestion. It doesnt have raider. Did i miss something? Is this the 1k point?

[elfin yew]

Oh it does have a raider

[rotund spoke]

then a raider in that detachment, for a Kabal trait

ther eit is

[elfin yew]

Yee

Oh yeah, also, while that melee bomb is happening, your 2 small squads of Kabalites just do objectives and secondaries

[rotund spoke]

1 min. Let me put this on my excel sheet with the troop loadout and trait suggestions

[elfin yew]

Yeus

It starts with 1cp in Nephilim, the bought wltrait/relic are on the Succubus

[rotund spoke]

So thats not coven or the other 2?

[elfin yew]

?

There's no coven units on that list yee

[rotund spoke]

so no subfaction bonuses?

[elfin yew]

You get the Cult and Kabal obsession bonuses

Since 1 detachment is a kabal one, the other is a cult one

[rotund spoke]

Cult is which?

sorry for my newbness

[elfin yew]

Wyches and such!

It's okay

Wych Cults

[rotund spoke]

Nephilim, does that give me any bonuses to anything? or is that just a name for my guys?

[slender zodiac]

Its the current rule set

[elfin yew]

Ye

[slender zodiac]

Codexes have rules for your army
Chapter approved is rules for the game

[elfin yew]

All you should be worried about with Nephilim right now is that

You start with 3cp at combat patrol and incursion(500 pts and 1k pts)
You gain 1cp each command phase instead of only in your command phase
You must spend 1cp for a warlord trait and for a relic, no more free ones

Your friends might still be playing Nachmund, which is fine too, just figure it out with them

There's some other complexities like secondary changes but that's not something to worry about starting out

[rotund spoke]

oh gotcha. so its ruleset that allows met to get WL or relics

So gaining 1 CP each command phase. If there are 4 players, does that mean I get 4 points each rotation?
If we are playing 2vs2 or 2vs1 (500+500vs1000) thats 2 points?

[elfin yew]

Technically but 2v2s arent like 'officially' set for matched so just ask what they want to do

[rotund spoke]

So I can take multiple warlord traits and relics, like start with Triptych Whip and Competitive Edge. But i dont see anything about buying them with CP?

[rotund spoke]

How do I get 2 warlord traits and 2 relics on a succi?
Comp Edge/Whip and Precision Blows/Dark Lotus....

[dry torrent]

OGRYN BETTER

[rare hornet]

The meganob of the militarum

[narrow ice]

The meganob of the militarum

[rare hornet]

Mega

[dry torrent]

I prefer my VALKIRY!!