#40k-minis-and-armies
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Got the idea from these star wars guys with the black pauldrons
here is a hue change with photoshop
Hwm
Have you considered using the scion heads with the berets?
For these new cadians that is
I did but thought they looked too formal
Fair enough
Wanted my guys to look like cadians, but shock troops
I'm coloring them black so you can get an idea of what it'll look like
nice, started reading IR stuff recently
I'd do it myself if I wasn't stuck on a bus rn
Just do what you want! And if you don’t like it then change it! That’s why we do test models so we can see if you like it or not.
Sorry, photoshop crashed
Shitty job but should give you an idea of what they look like
Depending on the helmet type, could be kinda tricky
Looks alright. I also can't quite put my finger on it, but it reminds me of something vaguely. Maybe starship troopers? Can't be right, those were grey uniforms
Ah yes, reminds me of a combat armour in fallout 4, because I recoloured that to black every time.
Certainly less commando than before. I would say this sorta sticks out like a sore thumb in the grasslands
But I like the contrast from the different parts of the uniform.
My guys use urban ruins as bases
I wanted to give the new models a bit of flair to set them apart as shock troops
So thank
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So that'll be with your pieces. Yeah, when I sent that message I realized I wasn't paying attention to your base pieces and the gravel
Didn't Cadians have painted helmet markings at one point? Perhaps you can do something with that to help identify if coloration makes it hard to see easily
If not you could make pauldron symbol IDs for quick visual picks
Yeah all my guys have pauldron numbers
And the new cadian shock troops will obviously look different
That is one thing I've never really attempted, base decorating
I dont know if I should show off my dark angels
discord doesnt particularly want to show the picture the right way up
dem figures look like dagame
To whoever pogged at this, this is just 1 out of 5k points of guardsmen
It's not a true guard list unless you can make your opponent rage quit while waiting for you to finish your movement phase
Yoo da thunder hamma
Just gonna put this here and slowly back up into a corner
ooo, I'm really going to need to paint my guard at some point soon
"that man, beat his ass"
"For the greater good."
everyone posting some good shit and than this guy completely flexing on us
where is da paint ma bordah!
Yes, the greater good.
i need it
LOL
meh
cant compete
He's my first chaos knight and he will fuck your shit up, tau
Tau players when they thank god (hold on)
"Excesive force authorized enemy knight in play. For the greater good, and for house exaultus."
this one has a special place in my heart now
I'm making them into a kill team just in the middle of moving so I can't continue making them until I'm done
So till then the guard will hold the line.
Oh? Your approaching me?
My 3 main armies are guard, tyranids and dark angels.
And chaos
4
"Yeah got a problem with it pleb?!"
Orks, Iron Warriors, Valhallan, Black Templar
Which Tyranids had something knight sized
Rvghrhgr
Don't want silly resin dimachaeron
Ohh, shit i think the 2nd Nerd War broke out 
I think it’s more of a revolution at that point
I will try and get one myself, but my town is weird with them
last year one store got one set and the employees bought them all on the same day
damn, i need gw cristmas box soon
Can always order one from me if ya live in the states wink wonk
totally not gonna shamelessly plug the store I work at
Depends on the state
looks at name
So, florida?
Denmark?
Canada?
Christ that's a lot better than mine
its easy to get better quickly honestly
still need to go back and add decals/finish a few very minor details
I have only been painting for a year and most of my skill increases came from very simple techniques and concepts. my first minis were horrendous
brush purists will seethe but learning how to hit a zenithal highlight with an airbrush ups the game immediately
That’s my latest marine
Ahhh the great mighty poo
The Cult Rises! Tbh I hope they add a GSC expansion to Danktide
Got to keep hold of some of them for comparison reasons
wink wonk just sounds like something youd say when winking with a lazy eye 
id imagine they would tbh, since they mention possible aliens being spotted
also looks really good!
all look really good!
zenithal isnt that important honestly, most paints you mini painters use dont really make use of it all that well either. There are some techniques that can heavily up your game like verdaccio because of how the physics of light works with the pigments used in flesh

I do it on most things but I take pictures and then layer it over, but my base layer is almost always an iron oxide based pigment, so the changes from zenithal dont actually show up
all of my favorite painters make use of a zenithal and usually a spray from underneath with a color that fits color theory.
I wouldn't say it's absolutely essential, but it certainly helps a person who has little to no concept of light sourcing or placement
using a zenithal for me really depends on the mini. I enjoy doing it with marines because I get to basecoat, zenithal, and then leave the armor alone mostly
Its useful, but its not a requirement like most thinnk
it also doesnt help with volumetric lighting at all
but thats a bit more advanced
the same kind of effects can be easily gotten from a good dry brush though, with a lil knowhow
I tend to just use contrasts I like how it gives some shading so I can be lazy
I make the vast majority of the paints I use, so i dont really know what contrasts are
I've seen the IG painter chads produce perfect looking marines with a dry brush in like 5 minutes
Think of them as a slightly thicker wash or a watered down base paint
so an ink
Pretty much yeah
one thick coat, pool into recesses
I think I have a bottle of it somewhere around here, I bought a few mini paints at one point out of curiousity because everyone kept telling me how good they were
I'm torn between certain contrasts and the washes that I make
But working in conservation, my concept of good is a lot stricter
I really enjoy contrast paints though. honestly an amazing tool
I've heard the zenithal slapchop with contrasts isn't too shabby. have thought about trying it out just to see
slapchop?
Stormcast bits make for some unique chaos armor
hard zenithal with grey basecoat and white highlight. then one layer of contrast so the zenithal shows through
supposed to be a decent way to speed paint and I've seen some good results. I'm sure there's an art to it
so a correct zenithal then
You basically do the highlights on the mini, then tint it
The most technical thing I own is an airbrush paint...
...I don't own an airbrush
Will say I need to stop buying and paint more. I have such a backlog now..
ahh. I'm one of those elitist artists with a doctorate in it so my concepts of terms is fair bit different
always interested to learn new things though
its part of the journey after all
Can get them pretty cheap bought mine with a compresser for a bit over 60 usd
Well I have been using a brush for it, (Because I'm lazy) and it works surprisingly well
i try to explain things as simply as possible lol. I have a STEM degree so i confuse the hell out of people if i dont
getting into airbrush was cheaper than I thought it would be. can definitely get a good starter for $60
the technique is pretty simple tho. freels like painting backwards
I try to learn as much as I can, and I feel like I've come a long way with painting in the year that I've done it. I always yearn to be better though
Oh god I get it, I had to get a masters in organochem for my job and I can over talk about paint chemistry a lot
I'm ngl I would like to hear about paint chemistry. would be a huge ELI5 session but I'd be down lmfao
I mean I sort of do content about it but its slow to produce
I just got a lot of supplies for it actually
only thing I didnt get is a spectrometer because those are a few grand and I dont need one yet
did just buy 25kg of different pigments though
as a chemist who seems pretty well versed with paint, what brand of acrylic is your go to?
Golden and lascaux
lascaux makes the best metallics ive found by far
golden is just a universally good brand that gets used in conservation a lot
will definitely jot that down because I have a hard time finding metallics I like
my gold is a 1:1 of two different ones because I couldn't seem to find one that worked right
love that box. I almost got one whenever I was running GSC but I never pulled the trigger
I had a shot to get one for about $80 and I didn't take it 😭 feel foolish these days lmao
I tried to buy that years ago, wish I did
I'll have to look into trying some of these out, do they make smaller bottles? 😅
I've been looking for dark imperium and dark vengeance but have settled for just getting the contents individually
85ml is the smallest, but you need to go to jacksons to get them as the ones in the US are crazy expensive
I have just a pile of shame I'm slowly working on
I have been slowly trying to get rid of all my assembled plastic and get all NOS
my 40k army was put on hold for a bit because of commissions and december is a super busy month because people book me for art classes most of the month
3k is comparably nothing to a lot of peoples' pile of shame but I have like 3k of primaris NOS and it mocks me every day
feb I have a scale modeling competition, , I'm hoping to start my army by august next year
I just recently started doing commissions (only for games level or maybe tabletop plus) and I'm struggling with learning the time management part
DM me later if you want, i cant help you with that
its a very weird thing, because there is a ton of extra things you dont think about with it
have been thinking about using a stopwatch and trying to see how long it takes me to do things
the problem is that when you have a stopwatch to track it, you'll inherently speed things up
my shop wants me to have a 48 hour turnover and I'm not confident I can always get it done
when its not there, you'll slow down
48 hour turn over is stupidly hard
like you want a 2k army painted in 48 hours? you're paying an extra 2-4k
I think they are limiting it to single models and units, and they can contact us about bigger stuff
I can do it with methods like this, but remember I also have been doing this for a very long time
I have been protesting for a week turnaround. feel that 48 hours is pretty harsh for a commission newbie
yeah you need at bare minimum 72 hours
I think they might just be trying to push me and see what I can do
plus with 48 hours, you'll be avoiding safety procedures really heavily
I would also worry about how rushed that assembly would have to be
what a lot of people dont realize is that painting still has to be osha compliant
you're dealing with a lot of very dangerous chemicals like methyl ethyl keytone, xylene, etc
I need to use PPE more 😭😅
Glues are acetone, n-butyl acetate, ethyl acetate, etc
CA glue is another entire thing all alone
And dont get me started on the fact pigments like titanium white and carbon black are carcinogenic
with most mini paints also using kaolin in heavily quantities, another known carcinogen, you need a lot more ppe than you'd think
well technically it isnt
but the fumed silica thats typically in it is,
also the matte agent? fumed silica
Im cursed
you scare me. I have a BS in Geology and people glaze over when i start talking about ternary diagrams of Feldspars lol
I umm... wouldnt be opposed to that actually
geology is something I have to pick up while working since... old pigments are earth pigments
correct. Did you ever take an Earth Materials class in school? its microscopes and chemistry applied to rocks
No, my original things were art history and psychology
when I went back i just didnt have time or a need for fun classes, just enough to get the credits and leave
my organo chem degree isnt finished yet technically, just was put on a brief hold due to covid
Honestly I don't understand anything yall are saying but the more I listen the more curious I become.
They're talking paint
@ebon panther do you know the prices of the battleforce boxes?
It scares me
yes, the curse of paint knowledge scares me, dont worry you're not alone
covid wrecked my upper level courses
had to do an advanced microscope class ONLINE
We sell same price as gw. But I don't know the prices give me a bit and I can prolly find it
Is there one you're looking for exactly?
just the general prices, I have no idea if I can budget anything at the moment
how?
not well lol
had to look at images of thin sections instead of using the microscopes. not like we could take them with us because they are super expensive double polarized scopes
sounds like you need to buy one yourself
shouldnt be that expensive, right? only like half the cost of school books
Yeah, see cheap.
You can afford it as a student with no job, just ask your rich parents who are paying everything so you dont have to get crippling debt for it
i had to watch my roommate get dragged down into the endless cycle of loans. spent summer working 80+ a week to try and offset the amount of loans she needed
and i went to a cheap school
Cheapest 40k one is about 310$ while most expensive 340$
not worth buying for me, thats the price of the models normally
if they are doing the christmas boxes for no discount this year, I might just say screw it and buy a new printer instead
I need one that can do white ink for waterslides
ouch
You're saving around 35% per box
straight up 1/10 students are homeless, many to avoid the cost of housing. I remember finding out a buddy of mine lived in his car when i found a news article interviewing him
shits surreals
Also sorry boxes are looking at 210 - 280
thats a lot more reasonable
Ye sorry I was looking at the wrong chart lol
I wonder what box is 280, thats at most a $60 discount
i made all my math considering 230
what the fuck, 280 is impossible
466 dollars for me
sounds australian
Agreed im using USD
cursed
brazillian
Plus these are guestiments because they haven't released the full sell amount to us yet
to know the price around here i convert the US price to BRL + 1000 brl of tax
well, will afford it if my friend let me borrows his card so i can pay on 4x
worst scenario tho
this weekend it starts
Any idea when they will start being sold? My store said to come back every day until they do...
this weekend
Not mine, but absolutely EPIC to say the least
https://youtube.com/shorts/KCOVb9FN9ME?feature=share
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two stores I know said it wasnt this weekend
Last year it wasnt until the 14th of december
The stores around me dont even have them in
prob its just the pre-order this weekend
maybe
yeah not even the brit stores I know are saying a release date, they just said "on some saturday in december, gw never tells us anything prior"
Sadly no GW is kinda stingy cause we don't find out things till the public does
thats honestly aggravating and I can see why two of my local stores stopped carrying GW products.
It's rough especially when we try to see how many we need to order for our players but we can't because we don't know anything
My boys
one store never carried them because they had to order one of every box, including aos, and the issue is aos just isnt a thing in this town
Looking forward to the Cadia Stands box coming out soon, going to be hard splitting my time between painting minis and playing Darktide.
you can do both at the same time
I can certainly try lol
That's the spirit
Getting a Dorn for my GSC
Time to continue the age-old tradition of making guard units but cooler as Brood Brothers
Yeah we're having that issue here as well and it's getting a bit rough atm
its almost like GW doesnt want to sell discount boxes because they make less short term money
The issues I've had with them in the industry is that they don't provide the things we request such as paints, brushes, and the like. We have been waiting on layer and base paints for two months and our rep is ghosting our emails
lol does your store want to carry my paint brand?
Not only that we put in a large order for the collector edition black templar mini and they got sent to the wrong lgs and we never got our money back
And that would depend on how much it would cost us and how much we would have to sell it for.
I could be wrong but I feel like buyign several boxes of cadia stands is actually at an upmark
Alot of the box value is in cards
and the transfers and such
And the codex(?)
pretty much
Oh yeah it has the codex
been selling it for like $4 for a 20ml bottle
well the white specifically, the rest are around $3
the white covers black in one coat
you took them all?
Lol no I wanna though. I sell them.
How much would you sell them to us for if we bought in large bulk?
this is the only miniature I resold
everything depends on how many and what not, there is also a private legal concern with my paints due to an impending lawsuit against another paint company I have to work out
long story short its slander and noncompetitive practices
i just cant be in the same store as that brand
Say I wanted to purchase 6 of each paint how much would it cost us to start out in? Would you have a display or would we have to provide one and would the paints sell better than vellajo or Citadel?
You'd have to have a display, but there arent many colors in the line, its mostly focused towards weathering and other effects at the moment with a few historical colors thrown in. Would the paints sell better? No idea, they sell well around me but it's because its a support local concept
but its mostly the white that sells
How do you have that many already?? I pre ordered mine and I don't have it yet
Vendor
Cringe
Still waiting for my Bayard's revenge model
Thank you GW for changing the delivery time for a pre order to "within 180 days" 🫡
That's fair. I think I'll pass on getting them for the store but I may grab some for personal use because I like to try other brands and see how well they work for me.
I bought the guard box because the new models were nice, even though i collect krieg
I plan to get the other new guard models too
its also not in full production and everything is hand made, so the waiting list is long the moment
dealing with the legal issue has put it on hold partly too
Ah shame let me know when things get sorted I need a good white for once lol
Being cool and being a bug are mutually exclusive 🙃

green leafs will be first to the bug wall
Hear me out…
hmmm
My krieg cabinet ( gotten the quartermaster and retinue since this picture and i need 1 more deathrider to replace the oop commisar deathrider for squadron commander)
Also working on my sisters of battle still, got about 1000 pts , only halfs put together
Hand reveal
hand
needs more trenches
needs more shovels
still happy i got the marshall AND quartermaster models now
Here's an old Mordheim mini. Got a couple of the possessed too
very nice
they painted?
it be like that
when i can paint again, starting with the deathriders
I wish I still had this one, did it for a friend a while ago
happens more often than id like
just dont drink my paint water
one cup is petrolium distillate, the other is for my acrylics... but I use a lot of chromium and cadmium based paints... the years of cad residue probably would make soluble cadmium at this point
that dont sound good
he is like walter white
Yes but with paint
indeed
I do have some strontium pigment around here somewhere
pulls out 1920s model plane paint with real lead
I actually have a ton of lead paint here, they still make and sell it
fair enough
no idea what vermillion is. so I shall google
i have some right next to me actually
idk why but vermillion strikes me as a name better suited to green
vermillion is cinnabar, cinnabar can also be a green
might just be a very subconscious thing
well vert is french for green there is also verdigris (again french)
Got some glow paint with strontium lol
you also ahve viridian
yes that as well
it makes sense why vermillion would seem like a green honestly
Also historically used in jewelry. Do with that what you will
doesnt really glow much
The red was at least, the green was arsenic and not really something hard
anytime I think of glow Im just thinking of those poor watch makers
Cinnabar isn't hard to begin with. You can scratch it with your fingernail
can't remember the name of them but the fact every day they handled radioactive paint that slowly killed them horrifically is not pleasant
radium
yeah
The green is probably cobalt and zinc
And heat treated
thats one of the few pigments my landlord banned me from having in my apartment
I'm not surprised, it's radioactive
its copper arsenic
what the hell do you do that requires you to have such volitile paints?
art conservation
that makes sense
also sounds like a horrifically difficult job
we have all seen the poorly "touched up" jesus
That would do it
Yeah but me bringing back a crate of mummy brown raised no red flags
wat
the 50kg of arsenic pigment showing up at the door? thats fine
the 10g of radium pigment, nope thats too dangerous
do you sniff it
that was actually a good move not a bad one
weirdly enough
My favorite form of arsenic is Realgar, chemical formula AsS
also thats restoration, not conservation
realgar is gorgeous
this one
yes, that painting before was worth about $75
the current one is worth in the range of 30 mil
hahahaha
the botched job is actually causing a lot of places to purposely get unqualified people to restore ancient paintings that have no value
jesus lol
no pun intended
(or entirely intended)
I still feel bad for the artist but...atleast she is a hero to her town
Ancient painting, no value. That makes no sense
she actually saved the town from economic ruin weirdly enough
not all paintings have historical or monetary value.
I have a 450 year old painting a family member painted, its not worth anything other than to me as an heirloom
suppose its all relative to perspective
The person wasn't ever relevant as a painter... talk about charlatan priest?? dude was
is it a good painting
no
Oof
hahahha I knew that would be the answer
Its his attempt at painting one of his wives
except half way through he got a new wife and tried to change it to her
based 450 year old relative
HAHAH
And yet here it is 450 years later being discussed
Im suprised that this information has lasted
it has because my family has some political notoriety and religious notoriety
only reason
Does that have anything to do with wack paintings?
thats a really good yellow
averland sunset 👁️
you are already able to find the new kits?
I just want a sentinel man
hobgrot hide
the kasrkin were in the Gallowdark kill team set
so i just bought some off people
we need someone to make the Bosnian knight
loudly bosnian knight!!!
Knights!?!!!
We must read out our chivalric duties!
“He must be humble of heart, strong of arm, be savage in war, loyal to hearth, and follow deeds of Glory. He must keep honour with all, banish cowardice from his doings, and bring his House no shame. He must serve the Emperor, and defend the Imperium. Thus should a Knight rule himself."
— The Chivalric Duty, Aquitainus Malory Cadmus, M31
Awesome sauce
Let’s change things up with a bit of good old ork
I like his blue pants 👖
Thank you
dropping a few pics of my recent synth wave styled Necrons (40k) here
That is very funky, I like it
built these guys after the closed beta 🙂
Was wondering about whether it was possible to adapt the chaos ogryn for the normal guard kill team?
Rule wise I mean
Even in death papa smurf still serves
So… Kin of Ultramar… you think your armour will protect you?
The sons of Iron will see your fortresses turned to dust!
just be grateful I havent put a baneblade on my christmas list
I will make a Shadowbaneswordlord of storm
Perturabo sends his regards
I did however put Rowboat on the list
and he has a knack for fisting space marines
Hello everybody
I'm Warhammer 40k curious I would like to try this hobby, painting looks awesome but playing looks too complex and elitist ATM 👀 I Heard about battle force boxes but maybe it's too much for a never try like me.
Any advices? 🙏
Opinions will probably differ from person to person. But a combat patrol box would be the quickest way to get a battle ready army
go on GW website, look through either the combat patrol boxes or just some minis, find what looks cool and then get peoples opinions on what to buy with that
That being said. I would recommend getting an idea on what faction appeals to you most before buying anything
or if you wanna try painting etc to start with get one of the small mini boxes that comes with painting
paints*
also regarding playing, dont worry about it, most of the stuff you will hear is probably about tournaments etc, its not that elitist lol
The tabletop gaming aspect varies wildly depending on your local gaming group. I would say go to your local game store or Games workshop and ask about which games are most commonly played (40k, age of sigmar, kill team, etc). If you're lucky, there might be a kill team scene near you, which is probably easier to get into than 40k proper.
They might even have introductory event for newer players from time to time.
I'm into Death guard / Sisterhood
Nice layering on the greens
@deft fable is it safe to assume you’ve have little to no experience of the actual gaming part of warhammer?
Yes I saw those necron/marines set but I'm like what can i do with 3 necrons after painting 😕 ?
@rare hornet I do have a coworker who plays a lot, show me his minis and tell me his games . But nah never played
well the whole point is practice
but if you want death guard or sisters then then definitely get a combat patrol
I wouldnt suggest the battleforce box but if you want one I wont stop you lol
Dices, inches and Infinite codex are all I know about this game
Okay, not a problem. May I suggest the use of the website: Wahapedia. It has all the rule books and is kept as up to date as possible
Does the battle box 2022 sounds great for a new player ?, a whole playable army at cheap price
the only reason it wouldnt be good is obviously if you dont end up liking the game itself
but otherwise yeah
you get a big army centerpiece
and some other shit
take a screenshot of something you like basically
put it here and youll get advice from someone
Those boxes might be a tad too high calibre for someone starting new
The christmas battleforces are great value for money, not going to lie
for sure
Yeah that's what I thought,Mortarion painting in my baby hands 🙁
lolol well you can have morty
the trick is to use the rest of the army as you build up its size to practice painting
Yeah that's what I thought too
lemme show you the difference between the first dark angel I painted when I bought them, because the word dark angel sounded cool to the one I have now
Love you guys ! ❤️❤️🐸
Hang on a tick I might have my first painted model somewhere
we all gotta start somewhere basically lol
to be fair my picture was kinda crap
@deft fable on the painting side of things. Might I suggest the idea of searching up reference images? Whether that be models other people have painted or just artwork of the army?
Sorry u want me to ?
No, sorry it was just a suggestion
I found that having a bunch of images of what I’m going to be painting can help if I ever get stuck
It’s entirely up to you of course
Oh I see... But high level of painting might provide the opposite effect no? Like unreachable
That’s true, but to be fair as long as you’re happy with what you make then who else cares?
It doesn't even have to be painted minis though, can be just generic art
For example, this is a non-standard paint scheme for dark eldar incubi, and would be a handy reference if you wanted something similar
exactly
I mean used some reference art to find the colour I wanted for my dark angels librarian
which ended up influencing the colour of my ultramarines cuz I liked the blue
you might find some art or a build and itll make you think thats a good idea
^thats the point I was trying to make. And failing miserably at it 😅
Yeah pretty much
I just saw someone elses dark angels green and thought fuck that looks great what can I do to get that effect
Wish I could paint minis as well as some of the guys in here do
Well you’re probably doing better than I am 😆
Figured I'd share my custom grey knights!
Are those Sororitas legs?
Nope! All stormcast bodies with grey knight bits
It was my first project with minis and was frankly a little overzealous
Took a few months to finally get through lol
Oh, fair enough, they just looked similar was all. They’re well done though
Thanks!
I love that, favourite is second from the rightg
My boy Shax! Rocking the broken antenna
yessss
How did you do the power sword on the middle marine?
Well middle, slightly right one
i dont recommend getting a battle box to start out unless you're really really sure
Im about to start a army with that
But its not going to be my first 40k army tho
if you've painted minis before and you're sure you like it then yeah they're great
i just meant for new painters it can be really intimidating
i got the really old cadia one years ago when it was only 200 cad it was such a steal
Yeah i painted like 2 killteams,500 points necrons and a squad of plague marines
My best one tho
Would any of you be able to recommend a really pale gold paint? I'm looking to go for something really desaturated
Only gold that exists on my brain is retributor armor
Yeah retributor and perhaps a shade over it?
Retributor and earthshade is my religion
vallejo 77.725 is pretty pale but its also pretty green
it can also have no green under tone to it. Vallejo isn't very great when it comes to quality control
Retributor, liberator and golden griffon drybrush? Maybe sigmarite drybrush?
you can also mix a little yellow into silver
the palest gold I have is literally called pale gold, there is also pale rich gold
but those are from a high end brand and arent easy to find
Yeah, that's a good point. @jovial sequoia , what paint brands do you have easier access to?
Im just waiting for the day I find someone in a discord randomly who lives in my town whos looking for rare paint
I can find just about any paint. I use mostly army painter
Looking outside hobby paint is a good start
with metallics you have a way wider range within artist paints
or even looking outside normal acrylics, gunpla has a ton of metallics too
Aren't gunpla paints typically lacquer? Can you brush those on
its enamel or lacquer, there isnt really a definition of what those are in the modern world though, blame dupont for that
and yes, you can
always better with an airbrush, but it you can it on as long as you have some mineral spirit
Hmm. I'll have to check the local hobby lobby then
Hobby lobby may or may not have a brand called lascaux
the rich pale gold from them might be what you're looking for
I will write that down, thank you
I dont know what hobby lobby has off hand, I always forget we have one near me
its just really inconvenient to get to
just keep in mind, its very expensive but its also considered a super premium brand
though... its cheaper per ML than vallejo metal air ever so slightly
I gotcha. I used to have the Vallejo liquid gold paints and that was like 30 dollars a bottle
yeah these are way cheaper, I think the smallest bottle is an 85ml and they run around $30~ in the US, way cheaper if you go to jacksons
Could only thin them with isopropyl alcohol because if you used water the pigment would rust
thats honestly debatable, we did testing with them years ago
Huh, neat
its just recommended to not use water because its an alcohol(i think, need to check the sds again) based paint
vallejo liquid metal is alcohol yeah
and i have definitely gotten moisture into it and not had it rust
lascaux is water based thankfully
its real metal pigment, so a burnishing fluid will cause them to rust
I play Orks and Imperial guard on Tabletop. I used to own knights but I sold them when 9th edition first release because obscuring terrain can eat my rear.
i cant imagine selling an army for gameplay reasons
I was tired of arguing with people about the errata changes for obscuring terrain. Had people trying to shoot through solid walls saying they didnt help the knight.. Like a solid wall not a door and I wanted more ork models at the time
lots of people do. one of my clients buys an army, has me paint it, sells it when its bad in the meta
I have been tempted to get an army painted for myself at some point
its very expensive
It is.
Yeah, if you're new to the hobby, I'd tale it slow. If you just want to paint or have something on the desk to see then I'd reconsider but if you want to play the game and want an army for cheap check ebay
My fee for the Morty commission I’m doing is 450 usd.
hahaha what the fuck
Thats all?
Last morty I did was 3500
but they wanted the step below showcase
god it was a nightmare
It’s a side gig I do at a very slow pace. So I charge low.
how long did it take you
yeah I Know that lol
its the main reason why Im trying to improve my painting
its gotten better but only with like one colour scheme
art classes are cheaper and a few hours can help you improve a lot
I occasionally do some free stuff for mini painters on the weekends too
Ive never really considered that to be honest
retributor, agrax, liberator?
its a very weird thing, a lot of mini painters that do classes arent very good at teaching, but are good at painting
Trying to figure out how to make a more battle worn look for the blue
We needs it, precious
Yeah I don’t like The beakies but I split an age of darkness box
what blue are you using?
retributor, reikland, liberator and auric, nice. Auric is such a weird paint.
Vallejo Game Magic blue
I actually want to redo my Custodes.
No marble bases.
Cut out the dry brush elements.
This box would be a fun reset before going back.
one second, need to double check which distributor they use for pigments
what colour golds are used to get that hue?
Retributor spray, Reikland, Auric Armor, Liberator.
green shade phthalo with green shate ultramarine mixture, most likely, so adding white will make it very green, you might have to add some violet to the mixture
thank you, ive got custodes myself and like to collect gold recipes haha
oh wow this looks nice!
so I will be honest, I dont actually know what that means
kek
A worthy pursuit that honors our Emperor.
Paint pigments. Sorry, I work in art conservation so my brain instantly goes into paint chemistry
lolol no worries, the conversation the other day exploded my brain
I can do that easily
basically if you get some of the base single pigments as an artist grade single pigment, you'd start to see a lot of weird stuff with paint
but then you get into the weirdness of things like using magenta and green to make a violet and blue
skitarii first
i want my mechadendrites to have mechadendrites
Sir…. This is an imperial cult server. Get your mecha slaaneshi stuff gone.
Your boss is literally admech
Wait… the Darktide Inquisitor is a Toaster Licker?
Just like real life.
Yeah, that doesn't make sense in either standard colour mixing or light colour mixing.
thats color theory in a nutshell. Color theory is a study of physics
because purple, violet, magenta, etc arent real, your brain invents them
you can mix them in weird ways
plus PG7 is just over all a very strange color
I think im just going to stick to sponging on/drybrushing the brighter blue over a darker blue to make a battleworn look and see how that goes when I try it for the first time
I need sponge lol
last time I did it when I painted my SS I used the sponge from where I keep my minis xD
you can get sponge brushes for cheap and if you dont use them as a brush, they work well
there are also tons of make up tools that work super well
are you pro or anti drybrushing with makeup brushes
Both
haha
Make up brushes work, they just arent the end all be all
I have kept an eye out for make up stuff but ive never seen anything that looks very usable
Foundation brushes are excellent tools for dusting minis. Gentle and gets into the crevices.
You'd be shocked at what can work
this is pure fact
I guess just like yellow and blue paints mix to green. It probably isn't clicking for me due to a) lack of recent mixing experience b) working with additive colour mixing for most things (any RGB scheme on a computer).
all this talk of painting has reminded me I have a few resin models I still need to wash and put together
paints are subtractive so its a different thing to learn entirely
True that, which is why hobby stores get away with selling so many different colours for plebs like me 😂
I started collecting Space Marines with the Conquest magazine and since the Silver Templars were invented for the magazine, I just kept going and painting them. The colorscheme is really striking when a whole army is on the table. But tbh.. my favorite colorscheme for SM is the Howling Griffons one but that's just too much to paint a whole army of 😄
An ultra successor I can respect.
Painting my first ever army!
I completely forgot did they reveal agents of the imperium style rules for guard?
one question plastic crack veterans
cristmas box come with transfer?
so i wouldnt bother getting one to use on my AoS army
Which box, either way, most likely
No + I don't think they have any agents of the imperium anyway
Not in their codex at least
thousand sons
i was going to get a CSM transfer to use the tzeentch mark on a tzaangor banner
It should have a transfer sheet
I'd be surprised if they don't come with transfers
I say this because I've gotten christmas boxes that for some reason didn't have their respective transfers, when they were supposed to
but at the same time I wouldn't
well, need to wait and hope the dude around here is still selling for 5 usd
If you have friends who play chaos at ur local store though, of any sort, you can probably just ask them for TSon sheets. All the CSM boxes come with an entire transfer which has symbols for each legion
I have like, 6 of them
I claim this chat in the name of Archaon and AoS.
well.... i played on 2 stores on 2 different states, and the chaos players usually free hands
Should have plenty of extra transfers then LMAO
It's p much guaranteed that a CSM player will have extra transfers since each sheet comes with transfers for each legion and they're only going to use one of them
oh belakor its time for your 2pm Everchosen Coronation
LOL
I claim this chat for the imperial guard
holy shit
I prefer the fall of Prospero display.
Also chaos warriors look sick as fuck
Oh I hate custodes
Hey bro we heard you like space marines
So we made space marine space marines
Same with grey knights and death watch
We are now sworn enemies.
Good
I’m torn.
I could continue to doing generic red and gold. Or do Dread Host.
Where Ogryn?!
1...2...3...4... Yep that's at least 7 tanks
Nah it's 6 maybe
paste. you mean paste
They are made of golden metal Armour. not flesh
they are like oysters. hard outside, squishy inside
Either way, making into a nice bracelet for my lords of war
God that's incredible every time I see it
Just realised the Scions at the side too
ooo I just remembered something important
does anyone here use citadel paints with an airbrush
Both my brothers and I do.
how do you like, get it to work
I bought some recently and, well it didnt like me
Figured i'd have my non-krieg painted something like this for tabletop
Haha, I have never had a issue with it, but all I have ever done is a basic zenethal coat, or just base colors especially white. I have never had a issue with it, But I dont do the full model. I really just base/large areas/stencils
Is it not spraying? Whats the issue? And do other paints work
I tried using caliban green for the coat over a black base coat for my dark angels, just to make it quicker, but it barely came out, I think it clogged it up almost immediately
other paints work
just not the citadel one
Hmm. I have never used that one. But I can tell you this. Theres a reason I dont use a lot of citadel paints and its because unfortunately they are garbage from time to time. They have some really fantastic ones, and some really bad ones. I have also gotten some randomly bad pots here and there. Honestly if you have a better green you like I would go with that.
These 3 air work great for me, I also use mechanicus standard as well a lot
yeah I figured that might be the case
ah well its good to hear it from someone else anyway
just means Ill have to find another dark green air as an alternative
Yeah me and my brother had a long talk about this regarding contrasts, We both use a mix of citadel/army painter because some citadel contrast is great, like nazdrag yellow or snake bite leather but some are garbage
i really like basilicanum grey and black templar
the contrasts have been pretty good so far
though my apothecary white recently didnt wanna work so well
does it normally work well? ive been doing white the hard way with standard paint
well it doesnt do white white
lemme grab a model and show you what it does
tah dah
Kitbash
the black templar marshal
but yeah the cape is what it does
its more of a shade for white
to add detail/texture
oh. i thought it was the helmet color
what paint?
you can always just get pg7 phthalo green and mix in a little red
I think once i get back into a painty mood ima have to ask you to show me or explain all this pigment mixing stuff
I enjoy glow in the dark ideas a lot more than black light reactive ones
sure, no problem
same, i have a dragon next to my window with the blue one in its eyes and mouth
@median thistle for reference this is the green I was saying
ahh okay
its transparent but if you mix in some iron oxide red, which is opaque, it should fix some issues with that if you have any
the red darkens down green, but too much and it turns brown
you get a much cleaner color than just mixing black into it
I currently have no glow effects things around, I only have fluo here because clients keep asking for it. I should do some glow effects on a few scale models though
naw, thats like a 40% chance to hit in xcom, you arent close enough
Do fluorescent paints have any special properties in regular light beyond being bright, and typically saturated and opaque?
well they arent opaque at all, also they universally fail blue wool testings, so you're considered lucky if you get more than 6 months out of them before they start to fade.
Blue wool testing is basically testing a pigments resistance to UV light
gotta be a little careful, as they can leave a milky look and can have crystals visible. also Strontium Aluminate
if they use a 1-5 scale, 1 is best, if its a 1-8 scale, 8 is best
Huh, last I played around with flour paints (green stuff world), they went on rather well. Maybe I didn't thin them enough.
i should make some
thats because those arent the pure pigment
they sell cheap cut pigment thats filled with corn starch
corn starch is a good way of making a paint opaque
it doesnt affect the paint really at all
it might be kaolin they use too
though thats less likely
That's interesting. So beyond the entire UV gimmick which isn't too great for your eyes either (afaik) and apparently fades quickly, they're just bright paints? What about glow in the dark pigments (or things marketed as pigments)?
glow in the dark is trickier
there are a few pigments that do it, some are fine, some arent
Fair enough, let's hope GSW makes decent ones
I think that's good enough for mini level
the only problem is that since its a zinc compound, you have face cracking in the long term
huh, interesting
if you want to see a huge deep dive, google DIN 67510
its the standardization of phosphorescent pigments
they have to be standardized and monitored because they are required for a lot of safety protocols
IE exit signs
lit pigments from culture hustle?
I love effects like this, i just wish I had a reason to do them more
ive only got it on a couple minis. the only other one is a venomcrawler
pots light up something fierce at night lol
not super practical though. mostly a gimmic i wanted to do
yeah, gimmicks are just things I rarely do
i use dirt and blood a lot, but thats because i love John Blanche's work
i use both a lot too, even mixed my own blood paint, a few gore artists buy it because its hyper accurate
its got that dichromatic effect that turns lightly yellow, its also lightfast unlike real blood thats fugitive
brutal
i just use Blood for the Blood God
gets me looks if i forget to clean it off my hand and i go out lol
I get that look all the time anyways, but im that weirdo who used a gas mask as a covid mask
i walk around with a mark of slaanesh around my neck and tell people its god when asked
thats hilarious. what kind?
I was using an M42A1 with VPU but switched to an M50 with VPU
I have laser ballistic lenses for both too
so green tinted lenses
I have a few WW1 gas masks laying around
I wanted to do that, but gas masks are expensive for someone with no money
yeah they also got even more expensive after the lockdown, lots of people buying them up to resell
I collect random things and keep them in a closet for my own viewing pleasure
Stopped into my local GW to pick up some paint for a certain two headed daemon i'm painting and spotted a Spacetonnian out in the wild
Bretonnian marine will simp for Celestine
I used extra parts from a webstore to make it a Lancer, 3D printed some parts to make her more Mechanicus looking too
I love the lancer personally so I was curious if there was another big shield mech. I like that spin on the lancer
It is one of my favorite patterns too, I wanted to make one that was really unique. Thanks for the praise on it too!
Lv 30 ogryn
they call him, MechaChonqueries
Oh shit, that's sick af!
Lol I'm playing a combined force of Guard and Space Marines for a 2k fight
Even tho I lose Doctrines with having a different faction in another detachment, I've found baneblade + space marines are a fun fight xD
They are
I like doing 550pts of sallies with 1450 guard
Its sallies are just an HQ, 1 trac marines, sternguard vets and a dreadnought with all the flamers they can carry and a dready drop pod
chad
Recon is ready!
So I’m planning to make a Valhallan Guard army, and I’m taking inspiration from the WW2 Soviet uniform, only issue is that I’m worried they’ll look too much like Cadians. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I actually thought this was a cadian before I read that
changing the green to a more chromium oxide like color would help a little, a bit of white accents too
Chromium oxide for reference
I think that's probably because the fatigue colour is so close to actual cadian, and the distinct cadian uniform features (helmet and flak vest shape).
Yeah, shame they stopped doing the unique models for most of the other regiments
I’ll just have to live with it most likely
you can always get bits for them, or sculpt hats
True, I think I’ll need to have a rethink on what to do
Luckily I have about 50 other guardsmen to practice on
RIGHT im committed, Im going to finish my contemptor today
I don’t think any other terminator armour is going to beat Cataphractii in looks in my opinion
RIP the old guard start collecting box
Yep. This friday will be the new models
At least in my area
Good time to buy too cause of black friday
Ooo, I’ll keep an eye open then
What regiment you doing?
Cadian shock troops
I'm pretty sure I can throw in kasrkin, ogryn, a psyker etc. though
But someone correct me if I'm wrong
I’ll be fair, it’s been so long since I played guard I honestly don’t know
with the new codex "regiments" are gone
you make your own
but there are some traits that explicitly mention the regiments
My Future femboys say otherwise
Oh?
Look this armor, the stance, the power
the codex astartes does not support this action
But the book of magnus yes
now I gotta go get guilliman and the codex launcher
wait does this mean the battle of prospero was the battle of femboys vs furries
They turned femboys after prospero tho
Wasn’t a no
Femboy transformation happened with the rubricae of ahriman
Reason why my Nick on some discords are dusty femboy enjoyer
So Ahriman was the first femboy?
I’ll be honest thousand sons are not a well know legion for me
Basically there is a meme with then being femboys
Counterpoint
The stance
The power
The raw energy
You’ve got me there
Because they had a disease that made the flesh change , distort in a disgusting creature
Oh yeah thousand sons
It had been cured temporary but tzeentch said fuck it, the disease is back
So ahriman mad af because magnus wouldnt do shit this time, done a ritual he found in the book of magnus
It cured them all of the disease.
They got cured, some sorcerers got a boom on magic Powers
But most of then burned alive until all remained is dust
So that’s where that phrase came from
And the fire shuted the Power armor trapping the soul inside the armor
So most of thousand sons are basically empty walking armors
And people say these are the femboys
I’ll be honest, I’m still not seeing that correlation
Warhammer players being weird
And that’s the truth
And its know now that the thousand sons is the femboy legion
And that inside the Power armor is a femboy
If u turned to dust you are a femboy
Warhammer players are weird
Prob why i fit
At least the space wolf furry meme is easy to understand
Ngl , i got a bit sad when i discovered about ahriman face
It’s why we all fit
Post ritual
How so?
There is nothing
His face turned in a void
Doomed his entire legion trying to save his family
And himself
I can see why that’s somewhat of an issue
At least he is the most powerful sorcerer of the galaxy
Isn’t that why he got banished by the legion?
Yeah
Have you seen magnus
10/10 femboy
I feel like TTS has something todo with that
Your honour, I can confirm my client is indeed a femboy who has done everything wrong
Well, he got banished when he cured the disease
And thats with tzeentch saving him when magnus tried to kill him


