#40k-minis-and-armies
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Forbidden planet, huh?
Aye
They sell all the other mcfarlane range
They also sell them unpainted if you would prefer to do them yourself which is nice
Since I plan to keep these boxed got the preprinted.
Those are cool as heck! Why is there no announcment on these bad boys?
I had a search, it seems all the toy collector channels where talking about them about a month ago
but yeah complete silence from the gaming and tabletop side
currently wave one is Veteran, Ogryn, Mobian Sixth Guardsman Variant 1 & 2, all have unpainted versions and Ogryn is £40 other three are £25
Wish I had the money for all of them. I have a video idea for the future, and the unpainted ones would rock socks.
I’ve painted a few grimy ultramarines in my time
Can I ask you something ? Like why would you keep it in the box ? I am genuinely curious and never understood this...maybe slightly when a figure is worth several hundred but for something so cheap, I just can't see it.
display
See here is the argument I see often but makes even less sense...like is it not more pleasing to have it out of the box in some cool pose or whatever than sitting wrapped in carboard and plastic ?
collector value is the correct reason
the first gen ones sky rocketed in value, same with some of second gen, third gen are half price
never know what will spike
Excuse me if I can't exactly get it...like of all the figurines I have bought and stuff, I don't think I'd ever sell them even if they end up being worth a lot for god knows what reason. But let's say I would be willing to part with them...I'd just be careful unpacking them to not damage the box and when it's time to go, back into the package as it was.
feels like GW really dropped the ball not releasing a special Darktide Kill Team for the release
just the number of strictly DT players who would buy it to have and then get sucked into the mini side of the hobby would more than justify R&D
I have a spawn figure in perfect box, it sells for around $1200 currently. Open box its around $250, no box it's $25~. Collectors are just weird, thats all you need to know
Like how GW dropped the ball in killing off Warhammer fantasy only for the mpst popular non-40k media being Total Warhammer and Vermintide?
I agree with this because I really want it...like when I get more budget to dump into minis, I defo want to make the standard DT team
Yeah, this is an other part that is very weird...I can understand the price being lower if "used" but this is just insane
The older it is, the less perfect mint in box items exist, this makes those collectable. Open box is common so its less rare
its like finding a factory sealed atari 2600 is one of the holy grails of collectors
Eh, guess this kind of collecting isn't for me then
its not for everyone
I just like hording things and selling them for a lot later on because I need money to fund my pigment collection
obsolete pigments and discontinued pigments are expensive after all
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Combat-Patrol-Dark-Angels-2020?&Pep=prod4210289,prod4960250-prod4210345,prod4210377 Can someone help me figuring out what color was used to paint the primaris chest insignia.
The listed colors don't seem to match quite right. At least not to my logic.
Idk if it's corax white and seraphim sepia or rakarth flesh and agrax earthshade...
thats not corax, they dont use their own paint weirdly enough
WOAH
but its gold with a try brush of silver then some redfish brown wash
If i knew hobby paint knows I could tell you better, but I only know the pigments used in them unfortunately
I’ve been working on a brotherhood of nod inspired GSC army. I haven’t added to it lately but I need to get back to it.
My lightbox arrived today!
They look really cool but they do tick my OCD because of the snow and stuff being on the rim of the base
and the fact you can see brush strokes and such
Just made this while being absend for 15 years, I'm kinda proud 🙂
brush strokes are where the art comes from, just look at it like that. Unless you're using paints like mine, you'll always have brush strokes
I can't...like I am used to seeing nice clean rims...especially when you look at the minis themselves, which are in fact immaculate
you can still see brush strokes on them, mostly around the flesh tones, but to me thats irrelevant
It's too small to be noticeable
its not, but I work in fine art so that might just be my bias talking
also those bases honestly strike me as 3d printed for some reason
the "brush strokes' are really incredibly straight
I dont think those are brush strokes actually
Whether it's my teachers (I did basically have to cram 2 years worth of painting lessons into one a few years ago) or my own weird bias, I usually don't like when you see brush strokes
The base rims are 3d printed, yep. I couldn't find any slotted 28mms, so I opted to extend the 25mms to 28 instead of trying to pin
Figured, brush strokes are never that perfectly straight unless you were aiming for that on purpose
if so that would be an impressively steady hand
I dig the plasma glow!!
It's a long shot but anyone here into epic 40k?
Thanks! You've got some pretty glowy plasma yourself! I like the electricity you've got going on your power sword too
Oh stop it 
So.....I kinda fucked up, first I made the wash way too dark....and I tried dry brushing the fucker on the left...slapped him with a lot of paint and put him under tap water which also peeled of the top of his head
anyways guys, rip me a new one, thank you very much
yeah sepia is hard to make
its like 30 parts pbr7 to one part pbk6/pbk7 or 15 parts pbr7 and 1 part pbk9
carbon black overpowers everything which is why its not really used in modern color theory
Cums
I'm confused what the goal colors here are

Are you trying to weather them or something?
colors dont need a goal, they are just figments of your imagination
like seriously, they are
Nah, that's not really true
I think it's good to have an idea of the colors you're trying to achieve
Otherwise it looks like nothing dunked in thick brown wash
Im about to yeet this boy into some nuln oil rn
Btw since when do astartes get pipboys
It is though, colors are imaginary. Setting goals for what you're after is very different that a color having a goal too.
Remember: one dip equals one sip.
Tasty stuff
But appreciate the after dipping result, if possible

If you don't use a gallon of nuln oil on every mini,are you really a mini painter?
I have 4 bottles on nuln oil. Never opened, will never open.
I'm not a real mini painter
Can I fry my corpstarch on nuln oil?
Yes.
yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
THATS dope af
Everyone’s chaos knights scare me.
Like they are unironically the only models that Make me uncomfortable
That and
That one nurgle rhino tank
The one with butthole doors?
Yes
that's a pile of shame
luckily that's your next project and you won't buy anything else meanwhile and start to paint it
Right?
...
right?
(that aside, I really like that knight)
Speaking of piles of shame
How's the state of everyone's pile of shame here?
I'm proud to announce I got the habit recently of forcing myself to finish a project before buying a new box
it took me some time to catch up with my former pile
thats sick
lookin good king
Oh, I wanted go primarly have green pauldrons with a mainly white body...but I fucked up big time trying to make a sepia. Kept going thinking it would fix itself...
The new sentinel is awesome to build and paint
Tasty
While I think I still like the boxier appearance of the previous sentinel sculpt more, I do love how they've updated the chainsaw to be a proper arm attachment now
Killteam bloodied is pretty much it, just gotta paint them more like darktide
Another sneaky guy finally done
Quick tip on molotov burnabottles.. If you add a blue scope you get lucky throws and aim better
I am so pleased with how this turned out, as a newbie to the hobby.
My krieg bois soon to be washed 🙂
Yo that looks dope 😄
damn Krieg looks good in red
Holy shit that Is awesome
Renegade guardsman?? Based af.
Where kitbashed Skaven Imperial Guard army?
@lapis valve nada
How did you achieve the white stripe on the skull medal ?
good brush and thinned offwhite paint
a lot of people go for cheap brushes when going for a decent one really makes the difference
im using those, the stripe was made with size 2
just remember brush sizes are not universal, they are only for that specific line in that specific style for that specific brand.
On a minor note, those brushes are banned in a few countries and have gotten exceedingly expensive in places like the US because of it.
love that its still slightly longer than the plasma gun, so the damage potential is quite small and sentinel stays true to its t-rex short arm syndrom
raphael brushes are banned? what?
Yes, all Kolinsky brushes are banned in the US since 2014 due to a misunderstanding of what a kolinsky brush was made from(they thought it was a type of mongoose, but the brushes are made from a Siberian weasel) in the US which means several countries just simply can not get them easily or at all because of that.
And currently most countries have a trade embargo with Russia due to the war, where the vast majority of those brushes come from, with the inferior product coming from china... Which a lot of countries have a partial embargo on.
Red sable is the legal one and the exact same thing, also cheaper
good thing my lgs has hefty supplies of raphaels then 🙂
they are probably the red sable version
Been trying to get the 8408 line direct from the manufacturer but they arent really producing them because they arent rejecting as many from the isabey line due to shortages
Isabey is the superior version of raphael, but its also more expensive.
Well they arrived...
Honestly I feel like GW should do some specialist miniatures for games like they did with Warhammer Online. I suppose we got a Gabriel Angelos Blood Raven.
Just need to pick up my traitor guardsman from my mate and thats wave 1 done
fully agree, though the next issue of white dwarf does have a darktide conversion article in it
Oh sweet will give it a gander when it lands on Warhammer+
Honestly I hope 10th gives us traitor guardsmen so we can make the Mobian sixth
Elf wip
Based? Based on what?
Well being renegade guard I'd assume 25mms, unless they've increased the base size for guard lately
32mm ⌀ base
Daily reminder to thin your paints
why? you dont need to thin them at all, just get paint without chemical thickeners
most people painting minis don't use professional grade paints and thinning the acrylic paints most have is a very good idea and I think you know that
I dont, Im very new to painting minis
Community has been pretty hostile honestly, joined a few painting discords and got banned when i said I worked in fine art
With one community calling my place of work to try and get me fired
oh that's rough
That's insane
Oh it gets more insane, I went to the last adepticon and someone punched me in the face over some twitch drama, one person showed up to my house because I brought up the AK interactive controversy in a local group too
Fine art folks can do some amazing things with minis in my experience.
We just go under the figure painting tag rather than miniature painting
they did what 
some just call it mini painting because thats the colloquial term for it, but I cant as I'm working towards museum curation after I complete my conservation training
its a whole thing, I have a police report and talking to lawyers about a slander lawsuit against an influencer
You might like Marco NJM, he works with more fine art techniques than the usual mini painting techniques
I REFUSE!!! AHRAAAAAHHHGGGGGGG
Honestly can you imagine if some dude won a tornament with a thin your paints army?
Tactical genius and good rolls but unable to paint 😦
I've seen him, and I don't. It's nothing really on him, but he has made a lot of very incorrect statements about paint chemistry, which is my focus currently, and did things which just annoyed me as someone with a PhD in art history like overly simplifying the Zorn pallet into basic colors. I do appreciate him calling out artist opus on multiple occasions for their deceptive marketing tactics though.
He was one of the better ones over all though
I'm just not his target audience is all
Fair enough
So update: I made a small white photo-booth out of paper and glue. I'd say it gives a small flair to it.
I still need a better camera for it. But eh.
Very nice!
Something you can do to up the quality of the photo is quickly bump up the expose and contrast if youre using a smart phone
Like so
I'll toy around with it for a little while :) Thanks man 👍
No problem, great work on the mini!
Hm
I should try that
One day we'll get a codex I'm sure...
Dubstep Knight?
Gotta have some tunes blasting for a noise marine army. Why not from a knight with speakers!
Fa sho! Bet the noise marines love this guy!
It's an ongoing project, I keep getting sidetracked...
Forcing myself to paint to kill time for the big day tomorrow
thats a very nice red
i like that red
good red
those are some very nice stripes
i like those stripes
good stripes
In ork logic, makes them go faster
do you free hand your stripes?
Yeah just slap some red, do the blend then clean up with some black 😂
Waiting on transfer sheets to add to the right, but fallout hobbies is taking it time with the order
You can also use some painters tape or a credit card if you get sick of waiting
Just curious how you apply your transfer sheets. I found a really great way that gets rid of the transparent crap behind em.
Just finished kitbashing this bad boy. Very please with how it came out, and can't wait to get painting.
Ayo is that BT-7274?
im trying to kitbash a chaos sorcerer onto a jabberslythe instead of the usual manticore
but i suck with greenstuff
whos trying to help a brother out with his 2k blood angels list
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Has Cavil actually done one video on warhammer?
yes, he did an instagram video awhile back supposedly
Pretty hard to find any video. Every Google search is just "Henry Cavill wants to talk warhammer"
I dont follow him on anything, I met him when I worked in props and have avoided him since
I just remember someone posting some instagram thing of him painting a while back
just a player. He kept hitting on several of my coworkers and my SO at the time. He was perfectly nice though
Slow work on the murder clowns, 6 like this so far
Oh
That’s 50 Boyz done, only another 14 more models to go before Dec 3rd 😵💫
Those knights are some of the best models I’ve seen lol, love em
im very new to this, here is the 2nd ever mini i've painted


something like this would fit weaponized "music" more https://youtu.be/2cpFEaKKhek
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Thinking of going with Leagues of Votaan or Orks for my first army collection. I really like their styles and designs. But which would be a better fit for first-time, beginner painter?
Waiting for The Old World to come back before I delve into Fantasy.
I dont have any 40k stuff (due to be a college student and money being tight/I intend to get some soon) but i do have some fantasy stuff id love to share. Black ORKS
Orks because you kinda just need Green, some leather colours and a metal colour
That and most Ork Models now looks fantastic even if simple
You see, that's what I was thinking as well. You don't have to be super precise with the painting, and any goofs can be waved off as Orks being Orks.
I really dig Votaan's lore, though. Maybe once I have some more paints under my belt.
Between those two I don't think there's much of a difference in visual complexity, and there are easier to paint armies out there. Granted, I just looked on their website, one of the starting paint sets also includes orks (AoS orks, but still). Maybe one of those starting boxes works for you?
What's annoying is that GW products can disappear from their store page if you're in a different delivery region, making it hard to recommend something if you don't know their delivery region.
there is too much light
Haha, definitely fits better. I was actually going to have Ambient "40k battle" audio running for the whole game like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vvRgQEbo4
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My humble attempt to paint a face. And on my last figure i said that hands was the hardest thing to paint in my opinion. I take it back.
whats funny is that the only light in that area is a lamp on the other side of the room and from my monitors. I dont like working in light for some reason.
Nice
I started an Imperial Knights army lol, I choose Hawkshroud house
neat idea honestly.
I'd say Orks too as others have said. They are really forgiving for beginner painters. If youd like some ideas for painting ork skin, my recipe is just Gutrippa flesh contrast paint and then a dry brush of tyrant stone
https://paintpad.app/recipes/2453-beast-snagga-boyz
Not Cadian lmao but soviet winter uniforms
Started off with AdMech, it went okay.
The coat should get the tint it needs once I wash it...hopefully I don't fuck it up again
Ah, green armour and khakish cloak threw me off
Yeah, I know
Oh I SEE
But hopefully, the tint on the coat will be slight, like on the actual uniforms
But I need to wait for the putties to dry up since the paint I used for them is very watery
Also bit of a random question but does anyone ever bother more than this with "text on paper"
The box art shows a fully painted map but no way in hell I am doing that
Fuck yeah!!!
ORKS IZ DA BEST
Luv me cogboys. And Mechanicus is exceptional, though kinda tapers off a bit I think.
The flying units are a little odd, yeah. Don't mind 'em all that much though I suppose.
very boring looking head upgrades. which i suppose is kind of in character for the ultramarines
now this just leaves the word bearers, thousand sons, salamanders, raven guard and alpha legion to get upgrade sets.
Keep hoping for the salamanders stuff so i can convert from Pyroclasts
Those UM heads are pointless, save your cash and use the standard heads heh
here's the worst part of it: i actually do like the ultramarines. but good lord these heads are bad
finished just in time before darktide takes over my hobbying time for a good while
I'm always impressed when large models get done in such detail. It must have taken quite a bit of time
I like the ultramarines helmet crest seen on some captains
Knights are decently easy to paint
its actually faster weirdly enough
bases are gonna be done when i finish the army
the super small details get lost on the larger ones so you generally dont notice if they are there or not
Killing time while a work report runs so here’s some of my salamanders.
Doing a plastic kit only (with conversions) 30k army
are those just the normal helmets with an upsilon on them?
pretty much
and hasbro is being targeting for over printing mtg cards in an attempt to increase profit...
its gameplay is from one of the older editions but modified to be faster
Finished Russ recently!
it's based off of 7th edition 40k. so no stratagems. but there are quite a few special rules and vehicles operate differently with armor values & hull points instead of wounds. plus flame weapons/blast weapons use templates instead of a range value
Also its fun to just play thematic missions from the heresy
I thinks 7th from what I was told, maybe 8th? I dont actually play the table top because I found 9th to be so incredibly boring after I game in with a necron army vs a necron army and spent over an hour in deployment
it's meant to be more of a narrative game for sure
an hour!? holy moly haha
we each had over 100 models as it was silver tide vs silver tide.
Ah, templates, those were good times.
In terms of rules though, I remember keyword bloat, it's always been fairly bloated post 5th edition.
they've also added in a reaction system similar to AoS
Painted these guys years & years ago.
Funnily, look at the scheme for my guard and look at the guards on the ship in Darktide.
Had a good laugh when I saw them.
I hope they bring back armor angles mattering
almost forgot as well. they've removed the psychic phase and just baked the psychic stuff into the different phases
this is fun and all when the angles are clear
One of my favourite things at the moment in 30k is ramming vehicles into units
but complete misery with xenos vehicles
thats what attracted me to the game in the first place honestly
the biggest reason why i finally got into heresy was seeing all the new plastic stuff
Its great. I've done my fair share of resin kits and im sick of it. Plastic forever!
i think i also prefer the way AP works in heresy as opposed to 40k
I like both but its certainly a bit simpler in 30k most of the time
espeeeecially with armour of contempt in 40k
100%
I play a lot of 40k (got over 170 games of 9th on the ITC app haha) and yeah every new codex is sooo overpowered
dont say that on reddit, they'll say 9th is perfectly balanced and a good game
God I wish people gave me free models, instead people just throw mine at a wall
Kill Team v2 is a lot of fun (imo).
I have a group of friends I play with so I can understand the worry of playing with random people.
Do you have any Warhammer Association/Clubs(?) around your area?
If so you could try and drop by and show that you might be interested in hanging out a little and play.
I can't see that many Warhammer players would be against new people wanting to delve into the hobby and think most would be helpful with new people.
ah, bummer.
yeah there will ofc always be some rotten eggs in every community.
but don't lose hope.
perhaps there are some "Looking for people" on Facebook or anything.
Perhaps your local gaming store knows anything about people looking for others to play with as well.
and hi there.
only 2-ish hours left +dowload.
Excited to no end.
RL can be such a joy killer sometimes. ^^'
Old man in his wheelchair
I made a terrain piece a little while back
It was already beat up and badly painted, bought on a secondhand site.
Fixed it up as best I could and decided to just do this with it
Just need a chaos knight putting one foot on it now :D
Eyy I like those
Thanks. The sorcerer is just a kitbash with Exalted Sorcerer bits
I figured that if I'm going to make a killteam, he might as well look more unique
I also replaced my icon bearer's tactical rock with this
The actual parts are made of milliput pressed into a bluestuff mold
well that is weird indeed
Almost there
Like what you've done with that, kinda wish we got more bases like that.
dope
Those are cool
Now make them kill each other
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he did it
Warlord fiiiight
This sure is the ultra marine to ever ultra marine
I genuine thought that this was just a normal HH marine
Ultrabeakies
Sorry I had to see what the difference was between the default helm and the new helm
Holes?
And microscopic ultra marine symbols
Anyone got some good tips for painting Necrons?
The best part about basing is that you can do whatever you want with them.
Depends on the colors you want to use
how'd you get that glow effect?
Just finished these for a client, diamonds were a big job 😂
airbrush and fluor colours
ufff... I would go nutz with all thes diamonds....That´s definitelly a commission I would skip. 🤣 But good job. 😉
question, why do mini painters use fluo colors when they have a LF rating of 5? Im ignorant to a lot of things you all tend to do a lot
thank you. 😉 I do a lot of them in the last time... but most of my clients want SW Legion stuff
what´s a LF rating of 5?
Lightfastness rating, 5 means they start to fade within 6 months of UV exposure, 1 means they can last at least 50 years with direct 24/7 exposure
never heard of that. good to know. i just wanted to try them out. ^^
yeah its a lake pigment effectively, they are dyed polymer particles. The only ones that last longer are blue ones and they dont last that much longer, around a year
here some OSL with normal colours... newest comossion finished today, so no cool pics with black background. 😅
definitely one of the more interesting ones ive seen
Chin
thx, if this was meant for me.^^
yes it was
My commssair
Beautiful shading on the light sources!
My black Templar Fellblade/Baneblade kitbash
Yooooooooooooooooooo
Poggers
Thats fucking sick
Also nice scheme
Red black and white
I wanted to do that but i suck at painting so I ditched the white
Thank you! I was super happy with how it came out and it’s definitely going to be played at some point if at all possible. Don’t worry too much about white especially on larger vehicles as on flat sheets like the front there you can typically go pretty thick with the Corax without a lot of issues
Well one i dont use citadel paint
Two its that i wanted to do a tricolor camo scheme. So blotches and/or lines of 3 colors. But i suck so I went with a black base with red camo
So this with white as well
But thats a super sick baneblade
Wish I wasnt intimidated with mine
That thing scares me
That’s a really nice looking Leman russ though! Probably the best advice I have ever heard from anyone in the hobby is to never let a model intimidate you especially during the painting phase. There’s a point in most projects where it seems like something is messed up right before everything comes together and everything turns into something you can be proud of. Probably the only issue I’ve ever had with the baneblade kit would be the tracks but that’s pretty manageable with some patience
My girlfriend did a baneblade for her first model and did something similar to my paint job because she really liked it and came everything came together pretty well
Thats what I heard
Just do it dont be scared
But i feel like my level of painting is
"look and dont touch so you can look closer, please dont look closer listen man i tried my best these are the first models i painted please dont look closer no please stop theyre not good please put them down and lets play stop looking at them please just roll the dice ill let you go first if you put down my leman tank please no"
And im kinda a perfectionist where I notice very small unpainted/messed up parts and it triggers me
So the baneblade being a big centerpiece amps that up by 10.
I know im better and i need to calm down but I get into my own head easily
Yea it can be pretty easy to fall into that trap a lot of the time. If it helps at all the vast majority of the armies actually being played are not going to be painted so by virtue of being painted even with a novice paint job your work is likely to be appreciated by your opponent especially if they themselves have a painted army
I feel like thats wrong cause younget a free 10 points for painting your army
Not painting is an actual disadvantage
But I only played like 3 games on TTS so ill take your word for it
WIP: Starting a custom knight house army. I know it looks like Hawkshroud, but it's my family coat of arms colours.
making a chaos space marine army just for this game XDDD
Lovely
Posting guard are we
Some painted Kill Teams reels with music:
Navy Breacher KT
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Sister Novitiate KT
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The Blooded KT
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The paint hurts
why you have pain?🤔
Hell yeah! I love it, and don’t worry about your knight colors looking like a cannon one. There are a metric shitload of knight houses lol
It's horrible not yours tho
I don´t get it. 😅 I just thought it was meant for me, because you posted it after my post. My bad.
My brother in Christ.. you totally get it wrong. I didn't even bother clicking the link you give
I have some paint that hurts, its made from arsenic
Out of curiosity, does that paint have special properties, or is it just an antique recipe for a paint?
Antique recipe with a unique color that you can't really match, like vermillion and what not. Believe it or not, they are still sold to this day, the most common is genuine vermillion.
Vermillion is a bright opaque red
I can believe that. I saw real blue pigment in an art store, it was really pricey compared to the other pigments
That's the original blue pigment
Blues can be dirt cheap or very expensive, no in between
Also there are no opaque blue pigments currently available for mini paints
So if you have an opaque blue, it has a ton of filler in it
Oh, I didn't know that
Technically there are a few that are but I'm not counting them due to toxicity
You have cobalt and cobalt stannate as the most available, supposedly yinmn is opaque but it's way too expensive to you around with and put into mass production
But none you'll find in mini paint
4k euro per kilo, damn
clean ur keyboard Azumgi!
Can't, that's paint
I have hired this batallion to stare at you
I didn't say any names bro
I enjoyed your votann tbh the brown scheme fit just damn well
Like they just finished mining a desert cave love it
Thanks, tried to use simple techniques and it really paid off
oh shit is that the ghosts? Thats awesome! Which one is Mkvenner?
He is sadly not in this kit
As long as none of those models are Lijah fething Cuu i'll let the lack of Mkvenner slide 🙂
While i wait for the servers here is a wulfen converted wolf lord if anybody like space furries
Bored, gonna make a darktide diorama without knowing a single thing about darktide gameplay
Should the darktide gang be fighting Tyranids, necrons or heretics
I don't have t*u
thats epic i love it
Hello Guys, I am starting to get into the building of miniatures. I bought a starter colour set with the age of sigmar period (starter brush etc) I wanted to ask a question about painting my first miniature. I wanted to start with a base blue, then move to the decals and then apply some shade. I know that the colors are not the right ones for ultramarines, but I wanted to hear from you experts, if that is the right order to do it. I am thankful for every advice 🙂
You should start with a prime first its still a base like abaddon black then do your blue
Ok, i have abaddon black here, so coat the full model in black and then start with blue ?
Grey gang
absolutely need some color.....
Who won?
The knights... Handily
Yeah I know
Thanks, it's about 3 years of work now
Send afterwards and I'll judge 🥺
I don't have any paints, so it'll be a bit. But when I get some I'll be sure to send.
gw not having to give free paint package is a greedy strategy not like not like indeed
lmao clapped
I bought the mini off Ebay anyways.
It cost me $10 bucks with free shipping, so I think it was an alright deal for an Overlord.
you can also use white vinegar, which is basically what microsol is
microsol is effectly white vinegar and soap, with I think something else but it works all the same
Ok I will check that out, thank you very much !! 🙏🏻
Used to hate doing transfers until i got microsol and microset, love it now
Very smart indeed, unlike some bozo who directly order from high pricing website knowing that the integrity for the minis is still the same
Love this.
Ebay definitely has some good stuff at times, plus its good for poors like me who want to get into the game or just like the minis themselves
i quite like these
i am quite sad no red butcher termies. but everything else is great
I do appreciate the pile of dead stormcast on the BOC codex
Squig on a stick and the gobbo equivalent of a jezzail, I love it already
So you're telling me angron did kill yarrick for this one huh? New guard codex and world eater..
Interestingly enough, he's not a daemon prince or a daemon of the Four. He's demigod hailing from the Forge of Souls itself and is gunning for godhood while playing arms dealer to the Four.
Astropath isnt plastic?
Recycled necron 
Oh.I really like gloom spite, those guys do not look gloom spite
They are really boring lmao
Lol, Lmao even, that son of a bitch is as metal as the two advisors he comes with.
I need a metal model, maybe I should try and track down some of the OG sisters of battle ones
I hate metal models, it's easier than forge world resin but by God I just want plastic these days.
Oh no I know they're shit but I just want em because look at those faces... the dialogus is legendary
Plastic crack my beloved
Huh
I thought the Astropath was that plastic model that came witn the officer of the fleet and master of ordnance
Guess everyone proxies that as the Astropath
I can't stop buying minis and gundam model kits I have 2 separate plastic crack addictions
Rip brother
No all three of those are metal mate, that IS the astropath
Bruh maximus
Tell me about it lol, I'm glad I already own those 3 now that they are becoming more useful in the new codex, though I'll miss my astro denying cover.
Never owned any gunpla but I need Aerial bad
Some veeeery old minis
If I remember correctly, This was early 2010s late 2000s, Built by little me and my father
We later sold this army : )
Great stuff

not mine, but a guy in my blood bowl group has this kickass nurgling
Glad to know some people enjoyed Horus heresy
this is the castellan of the black templars
New faction, new sub faction, or just an agent of chaos?
Hes just a little guy
chaos
Honestly he freaked me the fuck out when he wsd revealed, I was expecting him to be more cartoonish like angron
Is there a release date for the new daemon prince yet? Without the box set
Heretek?
Im@super happy for more demi god rep in 40K
Actual traitor guard models when. I want to be able to play as proper chaos, not just Chaos Space Marines with some cultist chaff, I want traitor artillery and chaos ogryns, the whole bloody lot.
the best we have is the blooded killteam ( i want one btw)
I really only want blooded killteam for the Ogryn honestly, but they are alright despite being pure monopose afaik.
They are like the krieg kill team, bodies are monopose but arm swaps are possible
Thats the other thing, sick of cultists or the traitor guard we have being monopose, like, they are supposed to be fielded in mass, so I gotta have a group of 50 guys with like 5-10 sets of clones
oh they are hybrid? didnt look like it from what I saw but thats decent
if only we can finally get some decent cultists too
even the old grot kit still has more customization
sounds like the gw price of your country
cheapest games workshop model basically puts you into mortgage
i can afforge the price on other places
use third party sellers
but arround here
thats not much different than my country
they honestly do better for gw in the long run
im trying to gather 400 usd for the court of the crimson king
they charge the same here
i cant remember the exact details but the fucked prices for other countries was due to some shipping tax i think lots of years ago, then when that tax or whatever issue it was went away they just never bothered to lower the prices again
i usually see people on the groups selling HQs for 90 usd here
laughs in british
I wish I had stores around me that sold 40k stuff that werent nightmares
watch that your teeth dont fall out
I have to travel for a bit to go to a store

can you afford to 
why not just get someone to ship you stuff from another country?
my country has free medical so yes i can
need to actually know people
laughs in a $75,000 medical bill I just had to pay
there are shipping companies
they fuck up declaring stuff
luckily my partner is british so i can get them to ship me models if i really wanna get 'discounts'
(ruins my day every time i remember where they come from though)
this sounds like romania
welcome to braziru
oof that was my third guess
My condolences.
i guess the god emperor give his hardest battles to his toughest guardsmen
thankfully brazil became its own planet in the 41st millennium
pleasure planet
pretty nice place honestly
i just hate here because im a fucking nerd that cant do what i like
because its not always im out there drinking poison
Im a nerd and full time artist in the US, I cant afford a bag of cheese
Being an artist was your first mistake.
My second mistake was teaching art

my third was getting a doctorate in art history
paint my mortarion
I mean I have several titans
But do you have a house?
lol im a millennial
Stable living and owning warhammer titans is mutually exclusive, we all know this.
to be fair I didnt buy the titans at full price
Average Titan collector going home to his cardboard box behind the game store after a thrilling night of gaming.
that would cost around $300-500usd
💀 the price of the court of the crimson king
Ok so we have Mortarion, Magnus, and Angron too I think? Or we're getting him, plus all these new fancy actual legit Thousand Sons/Tzeentch, Death Guard/Nurgle and World Eater/Khornate models
when the fuck are we getting Fulgrim and ACTUAL Slaanesh models.
One of my biggest irks in 40k is that the only actual Slaanesh thing we have is the fucking noise marines.
No, I want my fancy Chaos Marines clad in extravagant armour.
There is a titan
Hmm, Slaanesh approves of whatever degeneracy you forgot to crop out of the top right corner.
you should see the left side
Also to be fair thats a Warhound Titan
I mean like the BIG fuckers that cost like 3k
I sell those pretty quickly
yes sometimes
i dislike the fact I have to stick to GW official schemes for them to sell
anything unique is verboten
Well I can kinda understand it, anyone who isnt using a boring old premade chapter or warband scheme wouldnt want a custom paintjob that breaks thematics
yeah but the legios are nothing like their chapter honestly
like wildly different
tsons? its violet and white
also covered in chains and skulls
HE IS COMPLETE
let the galaxy burn brother
gotta love the red corsairs
Emperors children are supposed to be the next big army update after world eaters just wait my fellow flesh pleasure drug addict we will get our due
Hopefully we get some slaaneshi cultists too
Maybe but there already cultist kits so I wouldnt count on it
I'd hope for some more crab lady models though
I just hope the models look good.
My blooded kill team gunner. The beard/face was a pain in the bum to paint.
Ah yes daemonettes, the worst models to ever exist
They work with the cannon because assembling them is a flurry of emotion
Of mainly sadness and pain
My mistake, red corsairs have a fist as their symbol
yos
calgar gonna use the pylon as a weapon against the necrons?
maybe... he'll need it
i mean he did it before
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxzfdkZij8oZuq1YvOLniAF9VZ3zDMCi3r
19 seconds · Clipped by Cyroos Tetherington · Original video "If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device - Episode 21: Still Alive" by Bruva Alfabusa
true
Working on this
Obligatory cat vs AdMech picture
Foul fleshy beast
what sort of Tyranid Bio-Titan is this?
The best kind
My money's on the cat
same
Don’t even have all the AoS Slaanesh. The twins are AoS only
at least we have Syll'Esske
Prussian Themed imperial guard
that's a weird mini you got here 😂
She is the size of mini 🙂
Now i want to pet it ^^
i want to put a fluffy cat on my head as a hat
Rock & Stone forevaaa 🍻⛏️
MUSHROOM
Babies first combat patrol. Basically armageddon steel legion proxies witha DKOK paint job.
My contribution
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!
The doctor will see you now
Painted some plasma recently.
that’s pretty clean and cool, mate! I like the effect.
How did you do the lenses? LED's behind a custom lenses, or some special paint?
lenses are etched, leds are in the roof of the cockpit, lens material is a Polypropylene sheet.
Thanks! I was pretty pleased myself. There are some great tutorials out there that go through the process, basically just lots of layering and blending with glazes.
Ah, that's pretty neat. How did you curve the sheet to fit the lens shape (does the polypropylene sheet become malleable during etching)? Or do the lenses only look curved?
just heated it slightly and pressed it on the cockpit eyes on the inside
etching is just a knife, nothing special
Ah, ok
Well that's some serious OSL need to try that somedays
I also love the base with lava and glowing shroom that's dope
thank you. It was an entry piece for a painting contest in my local GW store.
I was thinking about doing a whole squad or army in this scheme, but this would be a lot of work.😅
I like clumping my marines up like the covers of HH novels
Vigilator Squad and Aleya
First terror marine wip.....be scared
Terrified
Looooooong stick
My first time painting
realy good job for the first try! 👍🏼 always trust in the process and enjoy painting. 😉
Jesus
Aughhh I would want one
Make it longer
Thin your paint
My first paintjob since before the lockdown
Fucking sick
I sososososoSOOO want an offical Emperor figure from GW
I hope we get one now that we have THH
anti chaos sounds more of a GK or templar thing
Bring on the xenos. For the emperor
unless genestealers
then deathwatch would sprint into darktide faster than a slanneshi daemon and a viagra factory
Blood for the blood god, Skulls for the skull throne!
this game has given me so many ideas for custom models, I wish GM would do more with chaos cultists, and also certain extra units for 40K, pox-bursters would make a really cool new unit to add to plague bearers or other such units
the shades of blue on that hound titan are kinda making me hungry 
Crunchy Titan Hull snack?
I love going to events, and conventions, just wish everyone was required to put on Speedstick.
Guys this is my first miniature I've did, with the help of a friend who guided me in the beginning so I can learn how to thin the paint and how to repair some slight mistakes. What do you think? I absolutely love this and I'll buy myself a starter kit and the primaris intercessors pack. Thinking of going for a Blood Angel chapter after having done a little bit of research.
(glue was still drying up on the leaves, didn't have patience to wait until taking a pic; also did not have transfer sheets for salamanders)
this is like… REALLY FUCKIN GOOD it may not be a major thing but those flames are really nice
Oh those are actually leaves; Thanks :D! I don't know why the leaves came out so bright on the picture
well then those leaves are really fucking nice
Yeaaaaaaah dude!
@Einherjar#9027 I love the ratguard
Bought the Shadowvaults set today - turning the terrain into Tertium and Kasrkin into inquisitorial stormtroopers
Me and the boys turning ourselves into a clown car
not minins but i did it
#1 psyker
why are u posting in the minis channel then
they posted it in pretty much every channel 😄
@round sphinx yeahhh thats called "spam"
let them have it. prob need it too
@mods
Thank you!
That looks amazing for your first time! Would you like CC tho?
I don't mind CC, I'll look at more chapters but I mostly went for the armor look, either red of black. I'll buy some chaos warriors as well in the future
No, I mean constructive criticism lol
Ah lol my bad, of course 
Thought of sharing my first abomination 🤣
Sadly not the right blue for ultramarines
What kind of blue is that it’s be perfect for the pants of my guardsmen
On the gun, it looks like you painted the gold first and then tried to avoid it with the silver. In my experience, don’t be afraid to temporarily cover up details. You can always go over details last so you can avoid that.
it's right I did went for the gold first, but I initially wanted to add silver to make it look it had more wear and tear, though I added a bit too much silver
But I will keep this in mind in the future, I had some moments where I was afraid of covering the details with base color as to not have them look weird in the end
Oh yeah, don’t be afraid. It’s spooky to think you’re gonna mess up your minis, but you just gotta dive in
there is no technical correct blue for ultramarines, the color formula has changed close to a dozen times now. Also Kantor blue was in fact, one of the correct blues for ultramarines.
mccragg blue is just one of the blues in a sea of blues used for ultramarines, over the years its gotten less and less blue, using cheaper and cheaper pigments
current one is pb29 ultramarine with a grey mix
Yeah, I was in GW on Friday and bought my first paint set and Beginner Set. I am familiar with painting ships and stuff, but so far I gotta say that I am quite happy with my outcome and my first marine. But I want to wait till I get Tesseract Glow for the necrons.
The paint and brush set was from age of sigmar, because the 40k one was out of stock, so I thought: fuck it, i can work with that.
Yet to be painted, but this is my assault intercessor sergeant for my Primaris Carcharodons Kill Team
mmmm zenithals
Just started the hobby about 2 month ago, started collecting a Sister of Battle army. Here are the one that I didn't butcher too much:
Celestine and her 2 geminae
My Zephyrim Squad
Beautiful
Still struggling a bit on faces, but I'll get there
Faces are easy if you dont look your minis in the eyes haha
Eyes are the worst (one of the reason I prefer to assemble with helmets 😅 )
Womder if Tanith amd Gaunt are still around in M42
Probably not 😦 they were 700s m41
Still no final ending to Sabbat crusade, cmon Abnett get the lead out ☺️
Lovely!
Cheers
Honestly, pretty good for that time in the hobby
Regular humans can fairly easily be around 500 years old. Iirc Ciaphas was 200 at the start of the 13th Black Crusade
Know quite a few adepts who are no where near that
My experimental homebrew Deathguard sub-faction. Aptly named the Frostblight
(Older picture, his base is complete with snow now)
What's a decent place to start with Minis? I've been interested in a witchhunter unit for a while now
Or even a necromunda gang
Necromunda gangs are great because they have a lot of detail and character, plus you only need one to start playing Necromunda or Kill Team (If you want to run them as Guard or Cultists)
@lapis karma I started with Ultramarines. Not a full force, but a couple minis to get me introduced to painting. Three to be exact, and then I moved on to Deathguard. Much of your painting time is spent on correcting your inevitable little mistakes you'll make everywhere. I watched a ton of painting tutorials prior to actually ever starting to paint as well, so that probably helped a lot.
A few things you need to do when you first start painting:
1: THIN. YOUR. PAINTS. I cannot stress this enough. even if you thin the paint too much, oh well, add some more. It's always easier to go back and add more than to add too much and fill up fine details.
2: Get a wet pallet. They're cheap, easy to use, and save you money by keeping your paint wet for long periods of time. They can keep paint wet for several days.
3: Do NOT compare your minis to others. It will kill your satisfaction by comparing your painting to someone who's been doing it for many years. I learned this the hard way, but now I just push myself to try different techniques or styles to improve on my own skills. I still have much to learn, but it's your hobby. Don't compare it to others.
4: Have fun! It's a state of zen to paint your models. Paint them any way you want. Your time, your models, your decision. Enjoy it!
There's a really cool tabletop store in my area that has a bunch of necromunda and arbites models that piqued my interest
If you have a GW store near you, you'll probably be able to ask them to paint 1 space marine. If not, then I would recommend one of the starting paint sets, depending on what general colours you want.
What notice?
Ah, that one
I'm used to building and adding decals to figures since i collect gundams lol but painting is new to me
Vallejo isn't meaningfully cheaper depending where you live
Actually, scratch that, the starting sets aren't that great now that I've looked at them
my advice if you're just starting now is not to fall for GWs shit and overspend on their hobby accessories
Any way I can get decent Minis and paint without breaking my wallet?
a lot of it is dubiously useful even when it isn't overpriced
Define decent minis. Minis per currency, best value for a GW set, highest quality minis?
Just in terms of ratio of quality to Economy lol
Duncan rhodes is also releasing his two thin coats paint line soon.
Depends what you mean by quality really
If you like GWs IP and design they are the highest quality in terms of detail, mold quality etc
Master grade gundams are anywhere from 80 - several hundred so i imagine i'm in that ballpark for good quality models
USD**
Maybe the starting kill team set, it has some nicely sculpted minis, a whole gameset with basic rules and accessories.
gw plastic models are very very well made
I'll head up to the store and ask if they can paint a mini for me
And then try to use that as a point of reference for my own
All the boys in a family photo.
I was gifted a few ultramarine minis a few years back but they werent the best quality
While the start collecting boxes from GW are relatively good value for money relative to standalone kits, I can't recommend them in good faith to anyone just collecting for fun or just starting the hobby. You don't get a good idea of what it does if you're going to play with them, and you might not enjoy the aesthetic or painting of a particular army after finishing a set of basic infantry.
As for the rules, are mixed unit armies allowed?
First ever minis I've painted, they're kinda scuffed but they're not terrible for generic infantry
Not a Valkyrie in sight just people getting indirect fired in the moment
Yeah this place is called third eye
They're pretty well known in the annapolis area of maryland
Nothing says beloved cadia army like conversions on the heavy weapons teams
I'll call them up first and ask if they can paint minis, they were the ones who got me into my gundam craze
I think allies need to share a keyword (imperium, chaos, aeldari, etc) or something, haven't played in years.
Okay, so I could have guardsmen with sororitas and inquisitors for example?
If you just want to paint you can do whatever you want
But to play?
You can definitely ally guard and sisters
I'm not sure where they have inquisitors squirrel away right now
Gundam kits are awesome in terms of build and pose-ability. Totally different than GW kits
It's a totally different itch to scratch with gundams, but there's overlap
But I enjoy my gundams and my dad and I love 40k so it'd be cool to collect some models and show to him
Now just the base
So i called, they dont offer commissioned painting but they will give me a little crash course on painting at the store
That's a really nice skin blend
They have over 3000 models too. Shit is cash
get student grade paint from an art store. mini paint is the same in terms of pigmentation but lower quality
I know that place, i used to live near there
most stores dont, commission painting is a VERY expensive thing and you have a lot of problems with doing it
I do a lot of commission painting and a lot of clients are absolute nightmares, its generally not worth it for a store to do
Oh sick a fellow marylander
Born and raised in howard-shaw dc
Born in arizona, but been living in maryland for a while now
moved out almost 10 years ago but I still have the blue crab old bay ego
Downtown annapolis is still my favorite place to be
its a good area
Wait, you mean the generic acrylic paint sold to schools for art class?
No technically, Its a grade of paint, you have craft/classroom, student, artist/professional and the unlisted one is restoration/conservation/premium
student a cheap way for art school students to work on projects
IE my student grade oil here was $20 for a 200ml tube, but the one I use for work was $170 for a 150ml tube
but thats a conservation/super premium grade
Huh, I'll have to look into how that's called here
what country?
the netherlands
the professional grade is called studio there
Oh, thanks
sometimes its called artist depending on the brand
but those brands would most likely be from the UK
The only store Ive been to in netherlands was van beek, they had theirs listed as First quality(artist/professional) and study
For brands I know that are good in the netherlands, Lascaux has the best metallics I've ever found bar none, their normal paints are good too, we use them a lot at my office. Golden, but it can be pricey and not worth it outside of the US, Lukas is stupidly good for the price, amsterdam isnt bad for the price but its not going to win awards for its quality
im also jealous of how cheap yall get lascaux studio bronze for, its €43,87 for a 500ml, and we pay $100 for a 250ml
Thanks, I saved that. I'll keep it in mind next time I visit a van beek.
Any opinions on liquitex or amsterdam inks?
liquitex was the first company company to sell acrylics, but they havent really changed much. Their inks are ok, I dont personally like them because they tend to reactivate when i apply water to them, but that can be useful at times
Amsterdam inks are slightly better but they do a few unforgivable sins
I'll grab a picture in a moment because it'll make more sense once I do
Amsterdam vermillion on the left, genuine vermillion on the right.
its even wrong when you reference the hex code of vermillion
also its transparent, genuine vermillion is opaque
Their quality is fine but I can not forgive them for the sin that is their vermillion ink.
oof, yeah, kinda wrong to call it that then. I personally only planned to use them to tint things using transparent inks through an airbrush.
they'll work great for that. My personal go to for ink brands is holbein but holbein is VERY hard to find and can be very expensive
Like using a sienna colour to tint an olive green so I can get closer to the colour of sphagum moss
What brushes do you use
For reference
for synthetics I use a lot of different brands, though i like the cotman line from W&N, for sables I use a mixture of a few brands, mostly Escoda and Isabey
i have a few raphaels here and there, but I only like the 8408 line, which is near impossible to find anymore and isabey is just the superior line in the companies product stack anyways and it covers that
the only series 7 I use is a spotter and thats just because it fits a very strange niche because of its size
synthetics are weird for me because I have a lot of dirt cheap ones that have lasted years, but most of my good ones died within a few months
it just comes down to a very specific type of material working better for my workflow
Don't like the series sevens?
It's just a hobby for me so I do most of my painting on cheap synthetics and save a series seven for when I need it
No one in the professional art world does, they cost way too much and dont have nearly as good quality as they used to
you're paying a lot of extra money for a brand name that lost all meaning about 10 years ago
they were the best around 15 or so years ago
but the master brushmakers have all retired, died, or got hired by a different company
My first ever model
Not pretty by any means, but proud happy with my 5 minute terrain pieces for my upcoming Killzone Tertium inspired event
this was my first ever model too
it was the thing that actually got me into painting so they hold a very weird nostalgic thing
Finally started painting the first part of my wall of martyrs defence line.
Watched that video, it’s a funny thing for charity
I'm also doing this but there's like no good Psyker models that aren't catachan level fugly
Do you play world eaters or slaves to darkness?
Ah, hmmm
I honestly think azrskh looks ass lmao
At first I thought it was cool
But
Wtf
oh there
Why is my flat message not sending
OHhhhh
Ahhhh
Well he’s so fucking flat
The primaris psyker isn't too bad
personally as a world eaters guy i think the terminator is better
Not a darktide themed model tho
vindicare
What do you mean Darktide themed?
i will concede it was a much more interesting choice this time around compared to last years models
i still chose the ork since i hated the assassin, but i will aknowledge that the assassin is an objectively better model
see this one looks way better than the wh+ version to me
the fact you get a pretty mediocre model for having to sign up and be loyal to a horrible service?
howd that go?
last time i check they went like 3 months (i think?) w/o a new animation
it offers me just enough to where i will stay signed up. but i don't think the service is particularly that good
i do enjoy some of the animations though
plague song is a stand out for me personally
i do quite like angels of death
is it the huge arse model being on a 25mm base? thats what upsets me
Here's an accurate reenactment of the darktide experience
Not untrue. Although from my experience, psykers in DT can be only as good as their team is. Or, to quote a poet, PRO'ECT THE LITTLE 'UNS
Rock and stone or something idk
Im debating with myself
When the kasrkins drop for the public, should I keep their original helmets or use the heads from the new cadian shock troops to sort of make some Imperial Guard Special Forces
specifically the heads with the caps
Give then all masked helmets for maximum stormtrooper
Having a helmet is nice to have in combat. It protects our most important organ.
My attempt to make Iron Warriors with the Mk VI marines
Where did you get the head on the left?
Tortuga bay
Let me check the name of it quick
They are specifically called M3 helmets
Thank you
No worries
Most badass Furry there is
Haha, thanks!
true
agree with your statement
Thank you, aside from them I had a test of a Cataphractii Terminator and currently building a contemptor slowly
Hey guys I'm trying to make my cadians stand out from other cadians whilst still being cadians
Should I replace their green armour with some black armour instead
that would still be cadians
Yes but not vanilla cadians
Trying to combine my death Korps and cadians with the new model releases
So my first idea was black armour
when someone tells me "I'm really bold and wild with my ice cream choices, I don't like vanilla!" I don't immediately think their next choice will be chocolate
Ok but do you think that it would look bad
If the guy on the left had black Armour instead of green
No the black looks way better with the brighter colors, better contrast without puke
lack of difference* (correction) of unit may make it harder to identify though
hm
Asymmetrical always bothered my ocd
Yeah that's what I was worried about

