general-chat

[hazy kestrel]

Just go with the joke

[sleek harness]

Alright

[waxen sleet]

Go for both, be inspired

[sleek harness]

He's explosive red berry flavored

[dire kayak]

[true widget]

hello goober

[sleek harness]

His name is based on this character of Rain World

Artificer

Which is

A explosive

Slugcat

[dire kayak]

i know someone who is super into rainworld but he likes saint

[sleek harness]

Fuck Saint

[true widget]

I've been wanting to play that game

[dire kayak]

i like rainworld's gameplay a lot

but it triggers both my phobias

[sleek harness]

Which

[dire kayak]

entomophobia and botanophobia

i hate the fucking poleplants

[true widget]

should I get it..

[dire kayak]

and the weird leech grass thing

[dire kayak]

absolutely

as long as youre not freaked out by bugs and weird as hell plants

[sleek harness]

Get the game

Play it first

Never touch the DLCs

[true widget]

I should be fine

[somber stream]

I like fly eating plant

They look so cute

[marsh iris]

ah time for sleep

[somber stream]

Is it really

[sleek harness]

Understandable

[dire kayak]

venus fly traps are the WORST

they make my skin crawl

[sleek harness]

But wouldn't that be fear of tentacles?

[marsh iris]

🛌

[regal jasper]

I have a problem with roblox

someone

help me

[sleek harness]

No

[regal jasper]

I love too much ragebaiting kids

[sleek harness]

Roblox is doomed

[dire kayak]

tell us some examples

[sleek harness]

Wait

The hell you want

[regal jasper]

I didn't ask for YOUR help

[sleek harness]

I want to help you now

You are my friend afterall

[regal jasper]

Well, backshot when I kill them in a fighting game and sending ez on chat, so funny, cause they get easily mad

[sleek harness]

Also the hell is that emoji

[regal jasper]

own

[waxen sleet]

EZPZ sets all the kids off

[regal jasper]

thats cute

are you ok?

[regal jasper]

YE

and I love it

[sleek harness]

What

[sleek harness]

Fine and dandy

[regal jasper]

cause they start to discuss on chat and all I do is laughing

[sleek harness]

Until the feelings start to creep in and I regret ever living

Actually no

I don't regret living

I love living

[regal jasper]

understandable

[sleek harness]

So

[regal jasper]

idk, just a emoji

[sleek harness]

Are we friends or what

[regal jasper]

We are friends

[sleek harness]

Cool

[regal jasper]

Now I'll put you on my basement

and you'll never escape

[sleek harness]

Laughable

[regal jasper]

I'm not kidding

[sleek harness]

I know

But sadly I am not in the range

So like

No

You can't

[regal jasper]

U don't know that

[somber stream]

Aren't you both Brazillian

[sleek harness]

Maybe

[somber stream]

You i know

[regal jasper]

Still don't believe that he's brazillian, but yep

[sleek harness]

Shush

[somber stream]

Yeah he's Mexican

But is a true Brazillian at heart

[sleek harness]

Yeah

I am Mexican

Buchachos mi amigos

[south valve]

Mr Worldwide

[sleek harness]

I guess that's the treatment you get when you don't want to put your location on your profile

[somber stream]

I'm actually Bri'ish

[sleek harness]

Say something

In British

[thick coyote]

[somber stream]

Tea and crumpets

Innit

[dire kayak]

thats so real

[sleek harness]

No it would be more like: Teeir Aen' Krunpreters

[regal jasper]

Wa'er

[rough verge]

Is the crusher melee weapon good

[somber stream]

That's Scottish

[south valve]

You wo' bruv? Ya wanna go, do ya?

[sleek harness]

Ootle o' waer

[somber stream]

Central Brittain use "Woo'ah"

[rough verge]

Ive never met a British person irl. Do they exist

[sleek harness]

Yeah

[dire kayak]

unfortunately

[south valve]

Londoners

[sleek harness]

They just don't prefer to go into poor countries

Like uh

Yours

[rough verge]

You dont even know what country in from😵‍💫

[sleek harness]

I know that it's poor

[south valve]

I know a couple Londoners actually and they say "they was" instead of "they were"

[somber stream]

Mind yo mannah fam

[south valve]

Roadman innit

[somber stream]

Else i'll stick ye up gooood

[hazy valley]

I have a British friend but she moved to the US. She became the mom of the group because she was our WoW guild leader

[rough verge]

Ill let you know i barely see a dozen homeless people on the commute to work

[hazy valley]

She's here because she fell in love with an American guy through WoW and now they're married

[sleek harness]

Poor doesn't mean low population

[regal jasper]

Really?

[sleek harness]

Dummy

[regal jasper]

Oh no

[south valve]

I'm British but I don't fall into this because I'm a poshie

At least, according to most people

[sleek harness]

Painted was a British?

Impossible

[hazy valley]

And he was in the US Air Force so I guess it was easier for her to come to him than the other way around

[dire kayak]

i wish i wasnt british

[rough verge]

See the joke was the we are actually poor.

[south valve]

Sorry you had to find out this way

[rough verge]

Gr**ce

[south valve]

Real 😔

[sleek harness]

How could you

I thought we had a connection

[south valve]

Blimey!

[somber stream]

What category do folks from Nottingham falls into

[sleek harness]

Night FOLKS

[south valve]

Nottingham is cool

[dire kayak]

i went there to get the t'aunar

[somber stream]

They are, annoyingly posh

[south valve]

Liverpool and Manchester though

oh and Birmingham of course

[sleek harness]

Goober would you rather be Asian or Brutish

[rough verge]

My friend lives in Liverpool i think

[dire kayak]

hmm

[south valve]

Brutish

[dire kayak]

where in asia?

[somber stream]

GLORY GLORY MAN UNITEEEED

[sleek harness]

Somewhere

[dire kayak]

cause if its like north korea

[hazy valley]

Do you have a preferred place in Asia if you could have picked where you were born?

Oh wait yeah North Korea is fucked

[sleek harness]

South Korea is chill

[dire kayak]

japan so i can play all the pjsk charts day 1

[sleek harness]

Be born there

[south valve]

Isn't South Korea quite nice?

[dire kayak]

thats kinda it

[south valve]

Thought so

[rough verge]

Thailand

[somber stream]

LOL NO

[rough verge]

For me

[south valve]

Oh

[sleek harness]

It is

[hazy valley]

Japan is nice. I want to visit it one day

[somber stream]

I work with Korean every day

[south valve]

India maybe?

[rough verge]

Im a big fan of muay thai

[dire kayak]

i heard the working stuff in japan is horrible

[somber stream]

Not a single passing day without a mf complaining how they want to kill themselves

[dire kayak]

they also sell cans of air

[hazy valley]

South Korea is generally nice but they have a very tough work culture (but that's a very prevalent problem in a lot of Asian cultures tbh)

[south valve]

Literally that guy from the Lorax movie

[rough verge]

In the corporate world. I hear its a lot better if youre a tradesman

[sleek harness]

This is basically "would you rather be part of this country or part of this entire continent"

[somber stream]

Also living in Japan, depends on your income can be living hell

[sleek harness]

Probably the continent is a better option than being British

[sleek harness]

Jobs in Japan is hell

Long shifts and all

[somber stream]

Real

But not all of them though

[south valve]

Britain isn't a country 🤓 ☝️

Scotland is nice

I'd live in Scotland

[sleek harness]

Demoman is coming to greet you

[somber stream]

I have a Welsh/Japanese friend who moved there, voluntarily work till 8pm and piss off home to her husband and 2 kids

[south valve]

He's friendly

[rough verge]

I dated a scot before. She was a bully

[sleek harness]

He's blue demoman

[south valve]

💥

[stoic hollow]

That's their way of showing love, trust

[rough verge]

Also had no idea why a scot was in greece

[somber stream]

Love, uh. Finds a way

[stoic hollow]

Even if through a well-thrown belter

[sleek harness]

Do you do it for the sex or for the love

[regal jasper]

damn

[south valve]

If you mean the UK, Northern Ireland is nice

Been to Dublin

lovely place

[sleek harness]

Dublin?

The hell is Dublin

Sounds like a candy name

[regal jasper]

I was thinking about living in Canada someday

[south valve]

Irish capital

[somber stream]

The company actually insisted she stop working so late to keep her health in good shape for future operations

[sleek harness]

So that's why it is called Dublin

[regal jasper]

At least

[somber stream]

Women is a lot more durable than men when it comes to long working hours

[sleek harness]

Licht

[somber stream]

Rat?

[sleek harness]

I don't know how to react to what you just said

[somber stream]

Here let me help

[formal mortar]

Yeah I'm not sure about that one chief

[sleek harness]

I wouldn't use that

I would prefer to use

[somber stream]

Office wise at least, not field work

[sleek harness]

LICHT

[formal mortar]

Still not sure about that one I've seen plenty of them flip their shit after 2 hours

Pretty sure it's just 50/50, depends on the person

[solid harbor]

Howdy folks

It's me again

[formal mortar]

I've had a 30 hour office shift before

[somber stream]

Eh depends ig. personally those i know always stay up past 11 to work

Jesus what's your trade?

[formal mortar]

I don't have a trade rn, rn I work at a store

[solid harbor]

Did they give you at least a break to take a nap or smth?

[formal mortar]

But then I had to be on ready for emergencies for utilities during a winter storm

I wasn't supposed to be there for 30 hours

[somber stream]

Oh so it's one of those

[formal mortar]

I took a nap while a coworker covered the phone, but basically the morning person didn't come in for their shift

[solid harbor]

Working on stores is both relaxing and terrifying depending on the time of day

[formal mortar]

So I was called in, then I worked my shift, then my relief didn't show up, then the next relief was late and got slapped by me because she wanted to try and complain when I didn't say hello to her

When she was the person who didn't show up the previous morning and had the nerve to be late the next day

[somber stream]

Deserved

[formal mortar]

And then bitch at me for not saying hello when I was simply clocked out and started to walk to the door

I still had a 2 hour walk home to do

But nah, any job just depends on the person

[proven basin]

Hey guys this game is dead right? I don’t see it on Steam top 100 anymore. Seems most moves on to helldivers and far far west? Those games seem to offer better replay value but would love to hear your opinions

[hazy kestrel]

Bait used to be believable.

[somber stream]

Can't say i've ever work continuously that long, but lately i've been pulling 16 hours a day, for the past 2 weeks

[formal mortar]

That's rough

[proven basin]

That’s part time for me.

[somber stream]

The gals in Korea stay up till 2AM every day to support me lol

[formal mortar]

I did that for 3 months but it was also physical, decided to stop

[somber stream]

Yeah really take a toll on your mental health

[solid harbor]

Darktide is mostly for the people who enjoy the vibe of warhammer 40k, the playerbase is not top 100 but it is loyal for the most part.

[formal mortar]

I gotta go get ready for work rn, hope your hours get reduced

[somber stream]

You work multiple jobs?

Good luck at work Sid

[formal mortar]

Work will be a breeze for me

I just have to throw a few tons of product around and listen to old people's stories

[hazy kestrel]

Damn you get stories from old people

Sounds fun

[hazy valley]

Old people basically get jobs exclusively to trap people into listening to their stories in my experience

[drowsy lynx]

Just about, it's at it's all time lowest player count after trying to introduce a new game mode to spark interest in the game again and having it be extremely underwhelming

It's essentially for 40k nerds and people that are really into the melee combat system

[hazy valley]

You would be shocked at how quick they are to tell their life story. And it is always an unskippable cutscene

[drowsy lynx]

Other horde shooters simply do not have good melee systems unfortunately

[hazy kestrel]

Tell us your war stories grandpa.

[somber stream]

I love shopping over here. You prepare your goods, cards and form

Get in, wait for the bag, swipe, gtfo asap

[hazy valley]

They're usually just stories complaining about their family or coworkers they dislike but sometimes they have fun stories like my coworker getting into a petty war with her neighbor over how he wants her to go out on a date with him and she keeps telling him no so he got petty and started reporting that her dog is going on his property to their HoA and when someone was sent to investigate they discovered that she had sent her dog to be watched by her daughter for 2 months and was waiting for the idiot to send another report

Oh and they ALWAYS ask if you are

Married
Have kids

[arctic folio]

Word

[hazy valley]

And they are always trying to set up one of their children

[solid harbor]

Well, when you think of a shooter, you think about shooting people , not whacking them. Let's be fair here

[hazy valley]

Old people are out here trying to play matchmaker

[proven basin]

That’s a shame. So if I want a good horde shooter and am not a 40k nerd I’m better off with Helldivers/far far west?

[solid harbor]

Vermintide and Darktide are so unique, the only reason we call them "Horde Shooters" it's because there's nothing similar to it in the market

[drowsy lynx]

Maybe, depends on how much time you'd want to commit and how you feel about paying for more gameplay features imo

[solid harbor]

Wouldn't be surprised if people start making "Tidelikes" in the future though, that's a really good format

[hazy kestrel]

:( someone in the office heated up their food and I can smell it all the way over here.

I’m hungry now :(

[proven basin]

What do you mean

[hazy kestrel]

20 more minutes until lunch time

[drowsy lynx]

I dislike the monetization in helldivers and I'm essentially at the end of my interest in using the stuff I have after 600ish hours so I've shelves that one. Far far west is fun but very new and it's hard to judge replayability there

[proven basin]

It sucks the PvP died in Vermintide. Darktide needs to add a fully fleshed out vs mode

[hazy kestrel]

Based on how death stacks ruined vt2’s PvP mode, I don’t blame the devs for not making a version for Darktide

[solid harbor]

I dunno if died is the right word, i think you're working on absolutes here.

Not everything is 0 or 100

[drowsy lynx]

Darktide I've played close to 2000 hours of just out of love for the combat system, but I might be an outlier in that I'm here for the melee/ hybrid combat system

[proven basin]

It COULD be good though. It’s not rocket science. Just have open play tests and tune it

[hazy kestrel]

They did that for Versus

Still died a few months after release

[proven basin]

Well they screwed it up balance wise

[hazy kestrel]

It’s just how it is.

[proven basin]

Nah I personally believe Darktide vs mode could capture what l4d2’s versus mode did

[hazy kestrel]

Sweatlords taking the fun out of a silly mode because it’s “pvp”

[proven basin]

Spawning as a mutant

[solid harbor]

Damn, only games i have on 2k hours are Payday 2 and Team Fortress 2, and that's because i played them for almost a decade

[proven basin]

Mutants were made for vs

[solid harbor]

Oh, and Fallout 4

[hazy kestrel]

And with the way trapper nets still go through hordes, it’s gonna be a mess if Darktide versus ever gets made.

Just hiding behind armor waves will be the Strat for trapper rats

[proven basin]

Just disable trappers for vs. there’s always a solution

If they let me design it I’d make it good

[hazy kestrel]

Lol. Lmao even.

“Good” is subjective to the whims of the community.

[proven basin]

I mean if I were in charge of half the games I played they’d be so much better

[hazy kestrel]

Alrighty, I’m gonna get back to work now.

[proven basin]

Not really. There’s always so painfully stupid balance decision and concept in most games. Like why in vs Vermintide is any melee class useless

[tacit geode]

Players have too much movement I don't think it'd work

[proven basin]

Just play Ranger or

[tacit geode]

how do you balance chainsliding in versus

[proven basin]

The engineer

[proven basin]

Then you slow the base movement down for player side

All these variables can be modified

Either way, what’s another coop shooter you think is better than this? I can’t really think of one.

Helldivers 2 feels insanely boring by yourself and all the missions feel exactly the same

Someone needs to explain to me what makes that game fun after 1 hour

[tacit geode]

The only horde shooter I'd say better than this one are VT2 and L4D2 (but even then I see them as equals)

[proven basin]

Those are predecessors to this so I’d just play this

[bronze frost]

Was John carpenters commando game good? It’s a new horse shooter? Anyone play it?

“Horse shooter” 🤣 no horde shooter

[proven basin]

No it sucks

Far far west looks good but probably gets old quick and not much content

Darktide still seems like the best horse shooter I can’t understand why Helldivers is popular

[hazy valley]

Evolving narrative and new toys/enemies. I don't play HD2 often but I was there for Malevelon Creek, Super Earth's illuminati invasion and Cyberstan. It's fun every once in a while with a squad of friends so you can freak out and go "WOW THEY ADDED SEAF!! WOW THEY ADDED TANKS!! WOW THEY ADDED [insert whatever here]" but the gameplay loop didn't catch me

[tacit geode]

cos an idiot could play it

[bronze frost]

New genre idea: horse shooter and it is exactly what it sounds like

[hazy kestrel]

I was there for the Creek

[tacit geode]

you drop people in darkitde and they bounce off it because its hard

if you try it's a great time

[hazy kestrel]

Then I dropped it after the PlayStation bs or whatever it was

I don’t even remember

[tacit geode]

but if you don't want to try then you die voer and over and it sucks

[hazy valley]

We wear that cape to remember how much we bled for it

[wide breach]

Wtf are you my long lost brother? I'm also struggling to make helldivers fun for the exact same reasons

[proven basin]

Yeah it’s so fucking repetitive and uninteresting. I own the game and play one match then stop playing. I play by myself though, that might be it. But as for a shooter solo Darktide is way more fun

[bronze frost]

New update for helldivers I heard has community hating on it hard

[tacit geode]

they always do that lol

[proven basin]

Also Helldivers you don’t even need to work with your team. You just ran around an open map like an asshole

[hearty basin]

Helldivers is so boring dude

[wide breach]

Just the repetitiveness of missions and the lack of a varied loadout is ugh

[hearty basin]

That's the only aspect I like. Scouting for objectives and pois

[proven basin]

I tried playing it again recently and no exaggeration, I got so bored that I didn’t even want to properly close the game I wanted to just alt F4 like “get me the fuck out of this boring shit”

[hazy valley]

A few of the guns are fun but it is a team horde shooter more than others and a lot of the most fun moments require collaboration. Like friends screening infantry so you can take out armour in your mech or piloting a tank while your friend takes the gun. The game is ok but if you play solo it isn't worth imo

[hearty basin]

For me the gameplay is boring. Doesn't matter if they add variety. I want to kill things and outplay enemies not just run away and shoot

[proven basin]

Yeah.. but it’s so meaningless. No challenge or structure. Just casual fest. It’s made for Xbox buddies after school

[hearty basin]

I disagree about that for the higher difficulties

[hazy valley]

People CAN play solo

But it is more fun together

[hearty basin]

But Darktide isn't that much harder either

[proven basin]

Okay here’s a hot take - if you make a game that’s only worth it with friends, the games trash. A game should be fun on its own merit.

[wide breach]

helldivers friendslop fr

[hearty basin]

For me the games are the same with or without friends

[hazy valley]

I think it's ok but it's just not a Forever Game for me. It stands on its own but it isn't to your or my taste

[proven basin]

How? Darktide auric is insane to the average player. Maybe to you guys it isn’t, but it’s very tough for the normies

[hazy valley]

I can't play it every day like I do FFXIV

[hearty basin]

The average player plays auric

[hazy kestrel]

Auric is the new heresy

With all that entails

[proven basin]

Since when

Did they made the game easier

[hazy valley]

There's a LOT of friend slop games out there. Helldivers 2 isn't one of those imo

[hazy kestrel]

It’s a snooze fest

At least for me

[tacit geode]

Well the game hasn't been made much harder lol

[proven basin]

Friend slop is that new wind rose game too

[hearty basin]

No, it always was. You don't need to do the proper melee swings, you don't need to care much about spacing, just cycle buffs and stagger and nade regen and you beat havoc 40

Most teammates I get in H40 don't even know how to read when an enemy is going to attack them, don't know any timings and are still successful players that's why I say it's easy

[hazy kestrel]

The only times I ever die are due to a silent trapper or a dog that my team never bothers to shoot off.

[jaunty path]

you mean pushing forward?

[proven basin]

Idk when I play with randoms we’re lucky to even survive damnarjon

[hearty basin]

That said, still miles ahead of hd2

[proven basin]

Damnation

[hearty basin]

Cute

[wide breach]

other day I saw a true level 750 veteran with no superiority complex talent in damnation

why I have no idea

[hazy kestrel]

I mean, you don’t need it

[wide breach]

he also took all subnodes on focus target and never pinged anything

[hazy kestrel]

Ah

[hearty basin]

Me having my highest true level as zealot level 150 still.doing more than every other player even on 200ms

[hazy kestrel]

The plot thickens

[pseudo terrace]

bro said fuck having crutches, i am all i need

[wide breach]

didnt take the +30% weakspot damage talent either

genuinely baffling

[hearty basin]

And he's still efficient cause Darktide requires you to do nothjng

Maybe he was drunk I dunno

Sometimes I forget about doing all my build offers too tbh

[pseudo terrace]

my highest level character is my ogryn because well, it’s simple. ogryn is bestest

think he’s like level 410

[hearty basin]

I'm like +150 zel +50 Ogryn +20 psyker +20 vet

+5 hive scum, +15 arbites

Smth like that

[pseudo terrace]

i haven’t touched DT in awhile

i’ve been playing a lot of SoT again, and DRG

[hazy valley]

Tbh you can kinda do literally anything you want in Auric and below. Havoc is really the only place build and loadout begins to matter, but player skill is always going to be the determining factor

[hearty basin]

Havoc forged title carriers don't know they can push a horde and save you from a trapper net

[hazy kestrel]

The havoc titles mean nothing

[wide breach]

he did ok damage but went down thrice

[hearty basin]

Thats my point

[hazy kestrel]

True survivors I’ve played with might as well be level 1’s with how bad they play.

[pseudo terrace]

best title in the game is Nomad or Cyber Falcon

those are chad titles

[hazy valley]

True Survivor, Auric Storm Survivor and Havoc Forged are like Legend titles in FFXIV. They just look very funny when they go down

[hearty basin]

Mobility creep players that only have space to dodge like crazy because there's an Ogryn or another heavy hitter class creating the space for them

[lilac crag]

Auric exemplars are usually gud

[hazy valley]

I think anytime I see someone using the Reject title in higher content they end up being crazy good

But that's rare

[pseudo terrace]

i got my true survivor with ogryn pre buffs and it’s so funny

[hearty basin]

I don't mind going down. I just mind obvious gameplay mistakes. Like when the Arbites had to use a whole mag and a grenade to kill a horde. You could've easily just melee'd it without wasting resources. It was Havoc, so it's important to be mindful of resource usage

I got all those flex talents without even knowing what was the challenge for them

I just saw it was there at some point

Not talents, titles

[hazy valley]

Everyone has off days but the way some of them play you have to wonder if they are having a bad day or if they just got carried to the title

[lilac crag]

u have to get the skull for all the maps

[hearty basin]

yeah exactly

Mechanical mistakes happen but using a grenade to crutch a horde?

[pseudo terrace]

best title title in the game is hands down Reject

[somber stream]

What is it doing

[hazy valley]

I like Ring Master because I am a clown and this is my circus

[delicate vapor]

Money

[lilac crag]

i like shift leader

[pseudo terrace]

is there supposed to a typo in your bio

[hearty basin]

I don't know about the specific titles I just have the flex ones like auric and havoc stuff

[somber stream]

No that did not answer my question

[lilac crag]

makes me feel like a manager

[hazy valley]

But I also like Explorator for my Moebian 21st Recon cosmetic set

[sudden sorrel]

what do you think about pox breaker players

[lilac crag]

especially cus i like the metalfab maps

[hearty basin]

That title is so cute

I love everything that says Pox

I don't have it

[somber stream]

I don't even recall what it is, probably nothing important

[sudden sorrel]

me neither, it takes a long time ^^

[hazy valley]

I used that with the Magistratum Enforcers cosmetics

[lilac crag]

occured instead of occur

[pseudo terrace]

it’s a pretty silly typo

[lilac crag]

its pretty awesome

[somber stream]

Well i am a silly person so it stays

[delicate vapor]

[woven sigil]

I have poxbreaker, it merely exists, best title is "Reject"

[lilac crag]

i was close to poxbreaker

then i swapped to pc

now im not close

[hazy valley]

Slightly better than average in my experience but it varies. It just signals someone has been playing a lot

[lilac crag]

or they like inferno staff

alot

[sudden sorrel]

true, I mean you literally have to spend 100's of hours to get it, right?

[hazy valley]

It's a lot of kills to grind

[hazy kestrel]

Hours mean nothing

They could have gotten it and be stuck on Malice

[woven sigil]

1 mil heretics clowned on

[sudden sorrel]

xD true

[hazy valley]

I've been here since beta and took a year break before Arbites was released but after Havoc dropped. I still had to play a bit to unlock Pox Breaker when I did return

[lilac crag]

do u know how inept that is

[hazy kestrel]

It’s an analogy

[pseudo terrace]

1 million kills sounds like a lot, but if you play the game a lot you’ll get it pretty quick i feel

[hazy kestrel]

You silly goose

[hearty basin]

I'm playing since beta too and don't have poxbreaker I just didn't play enough

[woven sigil]

I dont think anyone hardstuck in malice has poxbreaker yet lul

[hearty basin]

I was waiting for Darktide since they even hinted it would exist

[hazy valley]

It was maybe more like a year and a half now that I think about it. And the game has only been out for 3 years I think?

[woven sigil]

Density isnt there

[pseudo terrace]

i have 890 hours and i have the title

[hearty basin]

Vermintide lover

[sudden sorrel]

I have 527 hours and I think I have over 500k kills now lol

[hazy kestrel]

What I’m trying to say is that hours mean nothing, titles mean nothing. They don’t represent skill in my opinion.

[bronze frost]

Tech support question: I use an audio interface for music. Specifically the Scarlett 2i2. So I have a condenser microphone plugged into it. Most games and programs are able to detect my audio input device. For whatever reason darktide does not. I hold my push to talk and it never speaks. Anyone here deal with this ever?

[hearty basin]

I bought darktide multiple times to.support fatshark

[pseudo terrace]

and they didn’t recognize you or say thank you?

smh

[woven sigil]

A.S.S does

[pseudo terrace]

ungrateful devs

[hearty basin]

I don't want them to

[hazy valley]

They're TF2 hats. They're fun to show off and indicators of how deeply invested a player is with the game but not always an indicator of skill

[hasty sky]

The sharl done gone eat well

[hazy kestrel]

Well A.S.S usually means they cheesed it

[south valve]

ass

[hasty sky]

Shark*

[hazy kestrel]

Lmao

[hazy kestrel]

Yeah

[woven sigil]

'Zactly

[delicate vapor]

[hazy valley]

Auric Storm Survivor was so easy to cheese

[lilac crag]

I miss my console account

[hazy kestrel]

Can’t even use True Survivor anymore

[hazy valley]

I think they fixed the cheese

[hazy kestrel]

All the people who got carried to havoc 40

[hazy valley]

But it's still a goofy title

[hasty sky]

Can always use reject tho

[lilac crag]

i am trying to get auric storm surv without the cheese just to be proud of myself

[hasty sky]

Best title for sweats

[lilac crag]

I got auric exemplar without cheese

on oggy

[hazy kestrel]

And all the people who did speedruns or glitch runs to get true survivor

[sudden sorrel]

same here

[pseudo terrace]

if i ever see a true survivor go down i immediately start clowning them

[hearty basin]

noob

[lilac crag]

not noob . . . . . . . . . . .

[hazy valley]

I did it without cheese before Havoc was even a game mode and the hardest content was legitimately Auric Maelstrom CIVI. It is worth it to do it right if only so you feel better when you use it

[lilac crag]

i have to unlock everything again . . . . . .. . .

[lilac crag]

trueee

i saved my completion video when I got it bc it was done with my closest friends at the time

[sudden sorrel]

I think there is a massive difference in trying to get the titles with good pre mades or if you always queue with randoms

[lilac crag]

I still watch the vid time to time

[pseudo terrace]

have any of yall tried the new DRG season

it’s so good

[hearty basin]

I got it with randoms on high ping without knowing the title existed

[sudden sorrel]

lol

[hearty basin]

Don't mean to flex tho...

[sudden sorrel]

based

[hazy kestrel]

I always queued with randoms

[hazy valley]

I did it with randoms. It's why it was so hard LMFAO

[hearty basin]

They become good if you create the space for them

[hazy valley]

A lot of the time you'd get people queueing in that fold under no pressure and you end up needing to solo clutch a lot

[hearty basin]

But try playing one of these mobility creep classes where you don't kill.anyrning and that's why you'll think randoms suck

[hazy kestrel]

Randoms back then in havoc 1.0 weren’t bad

Now however…

[hearty basin]

Don't worry they got arbites nade regen to kill hordes with

Then spam all the wrong melee swings

[lilac crag]

what do you mean weren't bad bro havoc released with ps5s release

[sudden sorrel]

I feel like the coolest matches with randoms are mostly those where all leave and you clutch the game with one other guy and two bots

[lilac crag]

the lobbies WERE FULL

[hearty basin]

I'll stop it's getting toxic...

[hazy valley]

Do you know how mentally painful it is to start an Auric Maelstrom and the 2 Loner Zealots run off and die within the first 3 minutes of a match

[hazy kestrel]

Havoc 1.0 was fine

[pseudo terrace]

who needs mobility when you can just mulch enemies into salsa

[hearty basin]

Yes

[hazy valley]

Loner Zealot deserved to be deleted but also welcome back Loner Zealot (Hive Scum players)

[hearty basin]

Hive scum is really good to reposition and kill.Gunners So.your team doesn't take ranged damage

[hazy kestrel]

Loner zealot was fine

[hearty basin]

That's what I do because fighting hordes as hive scum is boring. Unless I'm using heavy sword

[hazy kestrel]

Just a bunch of goose poops ruined it

[waxen sleet]

I miss the Loner Zealot, I never enjoyed it myself, but I enjoyed the screaming in my ear and the aggressive pinging for us to revive them... it was great to ignore

[hearty basin]

I do my job to remove all the ranged enemies from the map and my team just fights hordes, it's super chill

[hazy valley]

It was. The average Loner Zealot wasn't and it encouraged them to be awful

[hazy kestrel]

Then the average loner zealot had a big skill issue.

Me? No such problem.

[pseudo terrace]

i just stun lock enemies and make them pay attention to me and let my team have all the space

[hearty basin]

I remember at the very start of darktide I ran off by myself To melee everything while people still did those cheese strats to stay in elevator etc. They said I was shit and that I was going down but I didn't

[hazy valley]

A few Loner Zealots were amazing. Top tier players who could run off, rat through a level and be genuinely useful players even disconnected from the team. Most would just run off, get netted and yell at everyone for not sprinting across half the map to save them then disconnect

[pseudo terrace]

insert badass skeleton with shield gif

[hazy kestrel]

(I say, moments before getting assassinated by a silent trapper / flamer grill team.)

[lilac crag]

my early days were spent on vet

not having fun

then I swapped to zealot

and I had lots of fun

relic blade is my favorite class

[hazy kestrel]

I loved playing vet back then

[hearty basin]

To be fair darktide had such a little amount of enemies it was okay

[hazy kestrel]

I can’t go back though, not with zealot as my main for the past year or so

[pseudo terrace]

isn’t vet busted atm

[hearty basin]

omg quickplay malice >-<

[sudden sorrel]

I started vet, then switched to ogryn for a long time and loved it then I became a zealot heavy evisc/flame thrower main and haven't looked back since

[hearty basin]

Useful for havoc boring for everything else imo

[lilac crag]

his survivalist aura is broken rn

[hearty basin]

Got better for me because of the heavy sword

[hazy valley]

My early days on Vet were using Camo Stance, standing still and watching the parade of enemies walk past me to attack my Ogryn friend while I went entirely ignored and just kept shooting my Lasgun LMFAO

[lilac crag]

so everyone gets infinite ammo with no CD

[hazy valley]

Camo Stance was DUMB

[hazy kestrel]

WE ARE SO BACK!

[lilac crag]

it's a bug. . . . . . . . .. .

[hazy kestrel]

I know

[hearty basin]

idk what's camo stance but the ult.that made enemies yellow was strong as hell nuked.the whole.map forever

[pseudo terrace]

i rarely play anything besides ogryn so i don’t much about the other classes

[lilac crag]

(except the vet)

[hazy kestrel]

Gonna cherish it while it lasts

Lmao

Of course

[lilac crag]

vets aura works just fine on vet :) don't want them to have too much fun now :)

[hazy valley]

It's not that they were a detriment to the team tbh. It was just irritating seeing them sprint off, Shroudfield to run past enemies and then get netted/dogged and spam ping because of their stupidity expecting us to teleport over to them past all the patrols and enemies they ignored

The rest of the team would be fine even if they weren't

[hearty basin]

I like that with hivescum you can choose to walk away at any point without using any cool downs

[sudden sorrel]

I feel like abilities that rely on maintaining stacks force players to rush ahead

[pseudo terrace]

do we have any clue when new weapons are coming to the game

[hazy kestrel]

Whenever I have a ping spammer, I tell them that the more they ping, the slower I’ll walk to pick them up

Fucking hate ping spammers

[hazy valley]

Vet used to have a talent that dropped threat by like 90% for standing still. Legitimately you could just stop moving and enemies forgot you existed. This was not an ability. This had no CD. It activated after standing still for a few seconds and would reactivate whenever you stopped

[hearty basin]

As Ogryn I throw.a box grenade on them from a far and with the Ogryn dash I can get time to rescue. I won't hate the player because I don't have comms enabled, I can't hear them screaming at me so for me it's just a player to be saved

[hearty basin]

Oh yeah I remember that

Although with the insane toughness you got from the Yellow ult, you could facetank ragers

So it's even better to have enemies attacking you instead of attacking the team

[lilac crag]

old marksman focus makes me cry

i hated the penance for it

because I had to crouch walk with powersword

[hazy kestrel]

You don’t like crabwalking?

[lilac crag]

💢

[hazy kestrel]

For matches on end?

[lilac crag]

I HATE CRABWALKING

[south valve]

🦀

GO MY CRAB ARMY

🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀

[hearty basin]

Only on cs

Wbu

[hazy valley]

Yeah LMFAO

It was awful before it was buffed

[hazy valley]

No no I don't mean someone who is in the same room with you. I mean someone who is 3-4 rooms ahead

You have to work to save someone like that. And they will inevitably lemming their way back into the situation the second they are freed

[hearty basin]

Well I was thinking 1 or 2 ahead maximum, I don't think they can go that far from me just because of a talent

[sour kelp]

what is fastest way to kill 1000 dregs? which are those?

[hasty sky]

The fuckers wearing rags

And just play the game

[hazy valley]

That kind of Loner Shroudfield Zealot was legitimately sprinting through a level trying to speedrun and was also really bad at playing solo so they always got dogged/netted the second they were out of stealth alone

[hearty basin]

Yeah you'll finish it eventually idk about doing it fast

[sour kelp]

every mission i get like 26... so... i need to do it fast, dont have time to play all day long whole week xD

[hasty sky]

Vast majority of penances you will get by just playing the game

[hearty basin]

That makes no sense because you don't finish the game by reaching the last objective like it was on Vermintide2 the Screaming Bell mission

I've had a couple.players like that but it was rare

[sour kelp]

i jsu want to do week mission fast

[lilac crag]

gonna have to stop you right there

[delicate vapor]

[hasty sky]

You cannot stop me.

[lilac crag]

On Overwatch + Friends will be Friends + Cliffhanger

[hazy valley]

There's no guessing what was going through their head other than the pox hound's teeth. The only thing they knew was run fast and spam ping

[hasty sky]

Infiltrate spam, did it 1yr ago long before infil buffs + one among the first ogryn penances I did + got it without trying on archivum sycorax on heresy diff

[lilac crag]

TRICK QUESTION

HAHA

[hearty basin]

dayum

[hasty sky]

There was no question

[hearty basin]

I don't know what each.penance is

[lilac crag]

YOU CAN DO IT ON EXPEDITIONS WITHIN 2 MINS BY EXTRACTING INSTANTLY

FOOLISH REJECT

YOUVE BEEN PLUNDERED

[hearty basin]

[hazy valley]

Expeditions made a lot of penances easy

[hasty sky]

Um that's cool but I did all those long before expeditions existed so I wouldn't know

[lilac crag]

shoots you with a blunderbuss

[hearty basin]

vermintide hasna blunderbuss

[hasty sky]

And I can't bear to play expeditions. Massive dissapointment 🙁

[thin wagon]

Bears cant play expedition silly

[hearty basin]

I liked expeditions a lotttttt

The 5 zone one with a giant amount of enemies

[hasty sky]

Here's hoping we get something cool in the summer update, might come back to the game then

[hearty basin]

It'll just be the same mobs you gotta kill

The fun for me is becoming a better player only

[thin wagon]

Preach. Self refinement is peak

[hearty basin]

Even if u don't get better, the repetition has to be fun for you, if it's not then I don't think they can make any content that'll make u like the game

But I get it

I have some games I only come back to when there's updates to check it out then leave

Rarely tho

[thin wagon]

One must imagine sisyphus happy

[lilac crag]

the repition of the same objectives is kind of not it for a map as small as expeditions

[delicate vapor]

[true widget]

hello everynyan

[delicate vapor]

Greets

[true widget]

how are u elios

[hearty basin]

Brb gonna light up an incense

[delicate vapor]

Tired

Slept from 6pm to 3am

[true widget]

go to sleeeeepp,,, go to sleeeeeepp,,,,

[lethal socket]

Who do you think would win? the moebian 6th or Haru Urara on dirt

[delicate vapor]

Already slept

[true widget]

my baby sister

[delicate vapor]

Haru

[hearty basin]

My cat head smells like concrete cause she rubbed her head on a bag of concrete

[delicate vapor]

[hearty basin]

Concrete cat

[true widget]

oh then

[cosmic burrow]

catcrete

[true widget]

shrugs

[dire kayak]

NEVER

[dire kayak]

haru

[raven dirge]

as a returning player I just noticed they added a new enemy type (plasma gunner)
and here I thought they would never add new enemies

[hearty basin]

I'll make a concrete slab for her

[true widget]

-# oka y sor

[hearty basin]

She loves concrete

[hearty basin]

Yesh

[true widget]

I HHATE THEM I HATEPLADMGUNNERS

[cosmic burrow]

dont drink

[true widget]

as soon as theres like 5 of them its HORRIBLE

[raven dirge]

more enemies in the future? genestealer cult ?

[dire kayak]

[ripe tangle]

Why not?

[true widget]

especially if u dont have good ranged options or something

[hearty basin]

Yeah maybe they add Space Marines as a playable character as well 🙂

[cosmic burrow]

liver will go bad

[true widget]

if ur stuck in a crowd so you cant shoot them they JUSTKEEP GOING AND PUSHING U

[ripe tangle]

if my Liver is bad then a Fox won’t try to eat it.

[true widget]

I want to get edibles again

kicks rock

[cosmic burrow]

ate kfc today

[cosmic burrow]

im getting kinda sick of it

[true widget]

was there a fried rat

[cosmic burrow]

no?

[ripe tangle]

I’m at an Aldi rn

[dire kayak]

drat

[cosmic burrow]

i dont live in usa

[ripe tangle]

buying food for home

[cosmic burrow]

trader joes is also aldi

[true widget]

oh okay no wonder

is it actually good there

wherever u are

[cosmic burrow]

in Poland

yes it is

vastly better than mcdondy

[true widget]

jesus

[ripe tangle]

I’ve never been to a Trader Joes

[cosmic burrow]

like a lot a lot

[ripe tangle]

I don’t live in California, Washington, or Florida

[true widget]

brings a tear to my eye

[drowsy lynx]

Hell yea those are definitely games worth putting those hours into. Crazy to see how well they're both still doing today

[true widget]

the kfcs over here are DISGUSTING

and is the most greasy shit ever

[fading otter]

Are they only in those states? There’s some in NY too

[cosmic burrow]

as a rule. if food in eu exists its highly likely its gonna be vastly better than whatever cardboard you have in usa

[ripe tangle]

It’s mostly those three but they have locations elsewhere

[true widget]

like I can feel my life span shortening everytime I ate kfc

[fading otter]

Ahhh

[true widget]

Lucky You

[fading otter]

Canadian so clueless lmao

[hazy valley]

I did the Marksman's Focus penance with a clown set up. Lawbringer (renamed to Zarona) Shotgun for the wide special shot. Scattershot + Manstopper and Infiltrate with Low Profile. I would click heads to 10 stacks then load the special slug and evaporate poxwalker hordes. I ended up doing it in 2 days of goofing off on work nights and I had so much fun I would still go back to the build to goof off more even after the penance

[cosmic burrow]

like its starts better on meat level

[hazy valley]

The old duration for Marksman's Focus suuuucked

[true widget]

are u okay... blink twice if u need help

[lilac crag]

thats insane cat

[hazy valley]

So Infiltrate with Low Profile was exclusively to let me safely chill while the hordes grouped up and load my special shot

[cosmic burrow]

if you can flee the the third wolrd country of usa

[hazy valley]

I do that build sometimes with Exe Stance now

[true widget]

I want to things aren't looking to good for me

[true widget]

im a transgender mexican they're gonna get me one way or another

[obsidian wren]

Why does the ripper gun have to be so ass

[gloomy tartan]

Star wars is weird

[cosmic burrow]

i know few trans people. all of them are chill

[true widget]

ohh okay

[cosmic burrow]

not the bat shit crazy type

[ripe tangle]

I’ve known both lmao

[gloomy tartan]

Luke was way too calm about finding out his sister kissed him.

[cosmic burrow]

the batshit crazy type gets corrected fast

[gloomy tartan]

Obi wan could of prevented that shit

[cosmic burrow]

like in Poland people wont care if what you have in your pants as long as you are civil and repspectful

[raven dirge]

after playing with hivescum a bit I can see how this class would be great at killing crusher hordes etc.
but I think this class is lacking in the "gunner crowd control" department, compared to say psyker

[dire kayak]

[hazy valley]

Wdym blackout nades are right there

I toss a blackout nade and then rush the gunner line

[cosmic burrow]

mate have you played desp with uzis?

[dire kayak]

another trans person for me to tie up in the basement and feed to g'alg'roth

[cosmic burrow]

you are literally invulnerable to ranged damage

[raven dirge]

would giving up chem grenade be worth that ?

[cosmic burrow]

yes

[blazing ibex]

Yeah

Blackouts are good.

[dire kayak]

i like using the talent that adds tox to grenades

blackout ❌
tox frag grenade ✅

[true widget]

why would u do that pls dont do that

[woven sigil]

Goated, infact

[proven basin]

What game is Babyshark making next anyone know

[formal mortar]

This is a great use, I do like my bazooka tho

[obsidian wren]

Idk what hive scum youre playing but any automatic/needlegun/boom bringer OR just running and dodging like a crackhead solves the issue

[stark bobcat]

yeah I know

[formal mortar]

You can shred gunners with hs

[cosmic burrow]

you just cant talk about it

[stark bobcat]

Those who nose....

[cosmic burrow]

i dont know

[formal mortar]

Theyre making club penguin 2

[proven basin]

Hype

It’s crazy. Wasn’t dawn of war 4 supposed to come out this spring I was looking forward to it. Dead game I guess

[raven dirge]

yeah well as a psyker I used to sit still behind a bubble and just zap all the gunners

maybe I'm too spoiled

[jaunty path]

Remove bubble

[obsidian wren]

Time to come out of the bubble then and be a man

[dire kayak]

he won't stop whispering in my ear

i have to appease him

[cosmic burrow]

read what your abilities do

i know its hard

[proven basin]

Oooo you gonna take that?

[obtuse oak]

Unknown

[raven dirge]

I know there's desperado but it doesn't protect the whole team

[true widget]

have u tried turning it off and turning it back on

ur ear

[cosmic burrow]

yeah you protect your team by deleting the issue

[proven basin]

It’s gonna be an extraction shooter in the 40k universe I heard

[south valve]

Surgically remove your ear

[waxen sleet]

You mean like Expeditions? Everyone's favorite game mode?

[proven basin]

wtf is that

Imagine Darktide added an extraction mode. Why not

The pve is still there

Ty en have PvP against players

[waxen sleet]

I cannot for the life of me tell if you're trolling or not

[obtuse oak]

They were recruiting staff with UE5 experience in 2023 but I haven't seen listings like that in a while

[proven basin]

I’m not. It would be quite crazy

[delicate vapor]

[lethal socket]

me when I get into pvp darktide and get fucking one shot by a zealot with a thammer and FoTF

[proven basin]

Why is pvp so unwelcome in games but pve is required always by people

[waxen sleet]

... Expeditions is the extraction game mode in Darktide

[proven basin]

But is there PvP

[waxen sleet]

No.

[proven basin]

Then it’s not really an extraction game tbh. That’s just Helldivers

[obtuse oak]

Nevermind they're recruiting again

[lethal socket]

PvP in darktide sounds like hell cause like, none of these abilities are balanced for the idea of PvP

[proven basin]

And what’s so bad about expeditions. I haven’t played the game in mo the

Months

[south valve]

Person below me must sign up to it

[delicate vapor]

[proven basin]

Just tune the weapons for PvP. Like ogryn gets more hp but is slower and does less damage at range

[waxen sleet]

Nothing's wrong: It's perfectly unbalanced, full of newbies and trolls, and the Penances are a slog... it's perfect

[lethal socket]

and the like

[lethal socket]

6 unique skill trees???

[obtuse oak]

Extraction shooter seems possible

[proven basin]

Yeah cuz we already have the pve

[obtuse oak]

We have grown quite a bit over the last few years, but we still embrace the same values that we started with. We want to build the best first person co-op games together, in an approachable, fun and passion-driven way.

They also say this

So still gonna be co-op

Good, PvP isn't what they're good at anyway

[proven basin]

It could be good

[pure quail]

I am still waiting for a good pve extraction shooter

[obsidian wren]

Watered down slop that VT2 had down

[pure quail]

I am uncertain if that is something that is possible

well, a good one at least

[proven basin]

Arc raiders and hell divers

[pure quail]

is arc raiders pve?

and helldivers isn't really an extraction shooter

[hazy valley]

Imo Chem nades are the weakest of the Scum blitz options. They're fun but Blackout Nades have built in regen and you can do more work with the Rocket

[proven basin]

Pretty much if you join the right lobbies or play solo

[raven dirge]

pvp is difficult to balance. You also have to combat cheating. Also matchmaking hell where people get matched against sweats

[waxen sleet]

Come suffer in Expeditions*, like a good Reject

[lethal socket]

Deep rock galactic is an extraction shooter if you are a scout and I am a driller :)

[pure quail]

suffer? I'm having a good time usually, as long as my team isn't complete ass

[proven basin]

I can just see this game in the extraction genre being really cool. Like the maps and pve are already awesome now imagine PvP option. I think it’s worth an experimentation at the very least

[raven dirge]

pve is for everyone having a good time. pvp is a zero sum game that self-selects for masochists.

[waxen sleet]

Same, mostly, the suffering is in Penance slog

[proven basin]

That’s another coop shooter that just feels pointless to play. Great game and stuff but it doesn’t give that challenge or substance the tide games give

It’s also piss easy

If you guys think Darktide is easy

[lethal socket]

this mans a leaf lover. kill him

[obtuse oak]

I don't

[pure quail]

leaf lover?

in this chat?

[proven basin]

Ppl in here were just saying Darktide is way too easy so

[raven dirge]

yeah tide games are still the most intense and high-ceiling horde combat games. Darktide blends melee and ranged in a way others don't

[proven basin]

I personally found the higher difficulties really tough

[hazy valley]

Haha yeah who would ever be a leaf lover?

[proven basin]

Yeah exactly. It’s like the least brainless one on the market

[lethal socket]

the real hard games are like Umamusume Pretty derby :sung

[raven dirge]

I just need darktide to add new enemies and challenges that aren't just stat tweaking like havoc

[thick coyote]

Oh so it isn't for me

[hazy valley]

Auric and below is very casual imo. It only gets sweaty in Havoc and sometimes Mortis Trials when the spawn director loses their mind

[proven basin]

How have they not added prestige yet is my question. You got level 30 and that’s it

[waxen sleet]

Let me solo a Deathguard Plague Marine...

[frank geyser]

I liked nurgle event the one that is now

it was good type of sweaty casual

[proven basin]

The average player is not sweeping through auric damnation I can assure you

[waxen sleet]

Another reason why Remembrancer is the best title^

[proven basin]

Like people with sub 100 hr in auric damnation are not breezing through

[hazy valley]

The current event is very fun. Oops All Ragers at the carnival arena or the sprint to the finish post plague tree or the smelter refinery are all top tier

[frank geyser]

yeah, I never had so many needs to cluch, makes the blood pump
I felt few times like those super good players who almost solo havoc

[proven basin]

I was gaslit to believe this game was piss easy by you guys - did my first auric and attempted it 4 times to realize the community is just elitists

[waxen sleet]

Fun yeah, I kinda liked the last event more though? 100 Crushers around every corner got me a bit sweaty...

[proven basin]

“Easy” is when I can know little to no mechanics or fights and still win

(Helldivers)

“It’s easy” - has 500 hours and a 4 stack communicating

[hazy valley]

I'm honestly not sure how player metrics work for Darktide. Don't we only have like 4000 players on steamcharts? Most players here have been here for years and people here for that long tend to get better and chase higher highs

[thick coyote]

Helldivers is an easy game?

[hazy valley]

The newer wave of players are catching up

Some people from SM2

[whole glade]

i cant believe Workers day and marx's birthday already happened i missed alot because of SM2

[proven basin]

Then the word is meaningless because easy means any idiot who buys the game can jump in and succeed on auric. Otherwise use another word like “once you learn it it’s so easy” which is basically all pve games ever made

[raven dirge]

helldivers have some solid ranged combat but it doesn't do melee, and the controls are floaty with a lot of inertia unlike the tight maneuvers of darktide

[dire kayak]

helldivers is impossible die die die

[hazy valley]

I don't think I ever used the word easy. I just said casual

[hazy valley]

Lights Out with a mixed horde, constant special spawns, a Chaos Spawn and a Plague Ogryn during Auric Maelstrom still pushes me tbh

[true widget]

lets get my baby sister to fact check this

[waxen sleet]

That sounds like a good time

[thick coyote]

Hate the nids

[raven dirge]

.... how different is casual from easy

[thick coyote]

Hate the fanta nids

[sly quest]

Haiyo

[hazy valley]

I like feeling like the idiot squad of Moebian 21st from the trailer LOL

[blazing ibex]

There's a disparity to this game's difficulty

[thick coyote]

Hate the fleshmobs

Hate the chickens

Hate the big chickens

[blazing ibex]

Its not that Auric itself is easy.

It's that there are things currently in the game that don't even require you to interact with the mechanics at all to completely trivialize it.

[waxen sleet]

Same... Flashlights and Chorus Zealot be mvps for maps like that.

[delicate vapor]

[hazy valley]

For me casual means I can do literally any loadout or build and be fine. I might have to play with a little more effort to cover the weaknesses of a build/loadout but I don't have to care that much

[blazing ibex]

It's too easy to trivialize it in a way that ruins the flow of things.

[raven dirge]

so casual means both easy and medium

[hazy valley]

It means where ever your skill level lets you feel most free

[woven sigil]

Well if the obese shart wants to keep adding in stuff like Desperado and Purgatus that ignore half the mechanics and threats, we're cooked

[hazy valley]

Some people can do whatever they want in H40s

I am not one of them

[waxen sleet]

Easy -> Casual -> Medium -> Hard -> Spicy -> Extra Spicy

[hazy valley]

Some people literally do solo runs

Everyone has a different skill level

[woven sigil]

Ok, but where is "facemelting"

[sly quest]

So before Easy there is Ice and freezed?

[blazing ibex]

That's what I worry about

[woven sigil]

Yeah.. absolutely fuckin right mate

[blazing ibex]

Because the issue is

This arguably makes the game worse for newer players.

[waxen sleet]

Somewhere closer to Extra Spicy... but before "Oooh he needs some milk!"

[waxen sleet]

That would be AFK mode

[hazy valley]

Like I saw a vid someone made of trying to do a Ciaphas Cain build with Chainsword + Laspistol in Havoc 40 and I was wondering how insane you have to be to run that

[blazing ibex]

Because the reason the game's current difficulties are so inflated with density right now which is what overwhelms newer players

[hazy valley]

You basically have zero Carapace outside of Krak

[woven sigil]

It certainly removes any sense of progression when they're gonna feel like an absolute powerhouse till Auric and then start getting their shit kicked in due to not having any fundamentals

[raven dirge]

on some level I understand the idea of "wanting higher highs" but my experience with stuff like Mortis Trials is that it just feels like a bigger workout and I have to spam Trauma staff a bit more

[blazing ibex]

Is in part because all of the overpowered stuff exists.

[raven dirge]

I guess I am not even sure what I want from Darktide at this rate

[woven sigil]

Hottest take this discord has ever seen incoming;

Game was best in year one when it came to difficulty because characters were reasonably tuned vs what they were expected to deal with.

[sly quest]

You want a new class!

[hazy valley]

2 million Scoville gummy bear haunts my dreams and still causes a psychological pain tingle in the back of my throat whenever I think about it

[jaunty path]

Yeah I feel like a lot of what I do in auric when we have an OP and decently skilled group I'm pretty much doing nothing unless I deliberately run off

[woven sigil]

I really wana try one of those

[raven dirge]

was that when the axe was literally the best psyker weapon as he could block the entire horde

[jaunty path]

I mean we're already steam rolling so why does sticking together matter

[hazy valley]

There's spicy and then there's "milk cannot save you"

[blazing ibex]

Hot take #2: Recent tree reworks have caused a serious disparity in the game's difficulty.

[woven sigil]

I dunno, i didnt play Psyker till the end of Y1

[woven sigil]

Massively so

[thick coyote]

No no

Y1 was when vet was the bestest class

[jaunty path]

Could you expand on this? I agree but not sure in what way.

[raven dirge]

maybe. But I want new enemies and puzzles. Each enemy is like a puzzle element. Genestealers? other chaos gods ?

[thick coyote]

With the bestest power sword

[woven sigil]

I would legit not complain in the least if all the skill trees were reverted back to 5 tiers with a choice of three per tier and Auric was left as is as the highest difficulty

[sly quest]

Do you not like to be attacked by 3 trappers that won’t die no matter how hard you shoot…?

[thick coyote]

Bestester power sword

[whole glade]

EXODIA OBLITERATE!!!!

[woven sigil]

If your gun don't kill a trapper, you need to aim betterer 😄

[raven dirge]

obese fish should add more enemies

[sly quest]

Ah… yk what I WANT? More story lines, I want it to be more than just an online game and actually have something interesting, but idk

[jaunty path]

Some people in this game fantasy themselves good when they use ranged all the time

[sly quest]

I HATE AIMING!!!!!

[jaunty path]

and I'm like

[hazy valley]

I'd love a new type of enemies tbh. Not a new enemy. Like the difference between Skaven and Chaos in Vermintide. Genestealers would be fun

[jaunty path]

No? You're not? Aiming in this game is not hard and is designed to make you feel bad ass?

[woven sigil]

Sounds like you need to play the Double Barrel

[raven dirge]

they have been building up lore for the other hive city for how long

definitely genestealers

[woven sigil]

Point in general direction of heretics > ???? > Profit

[blazing ibex]

Vet, psyker, and later on, scum, got their general power levels raised to crazy highs. Zealot, ogryn and arby less.

But ever since the reworks, the game itself hasn't felt consistent in its difficulty because of how inflated power level is due to those reworks.

Ogryn didn't get a full rework but they got a really unhealthy PBB buff.

[sly quest]

interesting

[hazy valley]

Player power is way crazier now

[delicate vapor]

[true widget]

stop staring with those big eyes!!!

[blazing ibex]

And a ton of DR

[delicate vapor]

[hazy valley]

The Ogryn PBB change is just trying to catch them up to the other classes when they should have tuned the other classes instead

[blazing ibex]

To iterate. I had an ogryn just completely trivialize a havoc 40 I was in with PBB Rumbler the other day

[hazy valley]

But Ogryn does need some more love for sure even despite the power creep

Give them Power Fist please I'm begging

[blazing ibex]

Literally just couldn't do anything before everything was already dead.

[cosmic burrow]

global nerf in this game is needed

[hazy valley]

Agreed

[blazing ibex]

If shit like this exists to make h40 a cakewalk

I can't even imagine seeing it in Auric

[hazy valley]

The Darktide reddit will explode with people angry about it but a global nerf would be very healthy for game balance

[blazing ibex]

Which comes down to my next point tbh

[hazy valley]

And like who cares about the redditors?

[cosmic burrow]

the chinese would vry the loudest

[hazy valley]

We can just ignore them here

[blazing ibex]

The game's balanced around Havoc

[cosmic burrow]

it isnt

[true widget]

reddit isnt real

[blazing ibex]

And it shouldn't be.

[blazing ibex]

It very much is at this point.

[hazy valley]

I want to live the life where it isn't

[jaunty path]

Is that why its only fun in havoc

[blazing ibex]

It's clear FS is deliberately balancing things around Havoc rather than Auric and below.

[cosmic burrow]

because of whiners

[blazing ibex]

Or that they're trying to balance between the two

And are failing.

[jaunty path]

I wonder why they would. Perhaps they can squeeze more hours out of havoc players?

[cosmic burrow]

that refuse to learn outside of the most busted and crutched builds in existence

[blazing ibex]

Probably to make the end game mode more accessible.

[cosmic burrow]

im glad i started on ogryn those 2 years ago

[true widget]

you already are.. Just tune it out 🙂

[blazing ibex]

But when the end game mode is so adversely different from the base difficulty of the game, of course that would come with issues.

[hazy valley]

You're right. I basically only touch discord and bluesky for social media, and the latter is exclusively to find artists to draw funny things for me

[true widget]

exactly