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Also seems like melee might be harder to pull off in the swarm engine
WWZ asks the question...what if all the florida men did bath salts
They all do though just not at the same time
Don’t look up the Ronald Poppo attack
While back someone in florida did bath salts and ate someones face off
God my sense of humor is dark lol
But is it tide?
lol
So what r the fastest way to get diamantine?
WTF. What is in the water there?
Grinding for Mats I'd say Mortis Trials personally
Ill try that, ppl say it looks like a lot but less that regular quick match
Damnation loot runs. Or havoc 40 chest once a week.

damnation and above
But sometimes I be running into ppl that just rushes and I be going out with like 20
Those too
Picking it up
When did you become a saint? @fiery wave
H40 chest is 200~ damnation minmax loot runs worth.
Play. The. Game
Shit, I got some good stuff but still dies so I'm just not that good to run the hardest difficulty yet
There's really no way to fast track it
Wow u guys r so funny
If you keep watch and see if the usual hard carries are up to take ppl into h40 for the box.
I got a buddy that is permabroke on diamantine, then I watch him play the game and notice he NEVER opens crates or explores at all. Deadass you just gotta look around and loot
Krieg behaviour
Like you don't gotta go on a scavenger hunt or anything, but as you're progressing, open them crates, check that side route, etc
Then you have weirdos who have at least a million still running off to do it because LOOT.
I have to REMIND myself that I don't need it anymore 
Can I get a fuckin uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...burger?
Even if you're just hunting for ammo, you're bound to pick them up
I had like 2k bit spend it all to upgrade weapons and I plan to max out my account for all characters and that's why I'm asking
Oh, I know. I know so very well.
i ate them all
Real, play an ammo hungry build and you'll suddenly have more diamantine
Ask @wind hornet .
@wind hornet why is Karien a saint now.
Or just be a loot gremlin.
Yeah you're gonna piss through a metric fuckton
Aka a non-lasgun build Veteran
Just grab it as you go, don't worry about it too hard, incorperate looting more into youre play.
or snag a radar mod and set it to filter only diamantine 
desperado scum, no pickpocket or ammo aura
Shrimply clear havoc 40
Im like 4 melee weapons away from having all gold 500 melee for psyker
Ive got like 200k saved up just from passive play lmao
Inf autogun for a game. Guaranteed diamantine.
Then you gotta get every weapon with curated godrolls
The grind never stops
That’s easy af since the mastery update
Run a Braced Autogun and absolute mag dump into a horde for sure
Buuuurp
Enjoy 2-20 mil dockets gambling for plasma and ripper.
Ripper broke me, luckily only 1 mil for the god plasmagun
And remember: Defense and Mobility are the Dump Stats, never need more than 60%
The hardest I been able to run is heresy, haven't tried damnation yet cuz I still fail heresy sometimes
My ripper is off by stability and collateral. It has more collateral.
Sadly.
Talking about the 66 ammo ripper?
Yeah.
Lemme see which one I got, rolled it, tried it, hated it and haven't touched it since
Practice Heresy on the Carnival Map with the Arena, it will get you used to being surrounded by the Chaos and get you more comfy at higher difficulties.
Ya I usually goes for those 2 except for the helbore lasgun, I went for ammo on that one
Ooh, mine's 66 ammo 74 stability
Look, I know. I even have multiples because funni. I literally have 4-5 knoifes on me vet.
Need to figure out guns dump stat for ogryn
Mine is like split between stability and collateral. More collateral.
Still 66 ammo.
Need to learn the map names too, seems a bit complicated, I see the same name and number on multiple maps lol
Mobility is always the ideal dump, Ogryns don't need movement. When you play Ogryn, the enemy is up against the wall... and you are the mofo wall.
Defense stat also effects your stamina efficacy of sprint and push as well
Wrong reply, oop
Collateral is stun damage right? Think I'll go for that as 60 since stability is important for recoil?
The weapon itself 
?
Collateral is stagger and suppression from memory. Really bad on some guns cos you want to hit accurately and not have them move or drop without dying.
It's a joke statement about how ogryn weapons are bad
No one remembers names of specific maps, just locations: Chasm Station, The Carnival, The Hourglass, The Torrent, Metalfab, Throneside, and the Void.
Don't worry about it
Alot of the Ogryns stuff on their tree helps with stability I think when it comes the Gunlugging side, so it varies
I've always went for mobility, defense, ammo only for helbore and probably collateral for ogyrn guns
Not sure about the 2 dlc yet, haven't play them
Oh lol
That sounds right to me, but I'd add that suppression is good for if have a firing line of Gunners mag dumping into you...
FYI if you “inspect” a weapon in the menu and then hover over each stat it tells you exactly what each stat affects for the weapon
This^
Nope. The breakpoint for it never really changes for most guns.
Is why it's the ranged dump stat.
Really? My bad
Yup yup, the biggest problem now is diamantine, thanks guys
Mobility or collateral dump for ranged.
Also double check your Mark while you are at it when checking your weapons... seen too many people not realize there are more than one variants of a weapon.
Also, recon not dumping collateral does do one thing, if you aimbot a tox bomber as he pulls out a 'nade, you can stagger him. Without, you will always fail the stagger.
But for most part, he should just be dead.
Weird thing I saw when I was playing last, dunno if I saw right or not, but I swear I shot a Tox Grenade in the air and changed its trajectory
It's very niche.
It's a projectile, but IDK if you can shoot them.
You take 1-2 toughness damage if you get direct hit by it.
she radiates holy aura
also ignores enemy attacks
I will try again when I have the chance, but I swear I think it moved, but I could be wrong
cleave is a godly stat on the right weapons
Oh
For turning yourself into a human shaped lawnmower? absolutely
revs up my Savage Sweep and Momentum Heavy Evicerator
Chainswords and Powerswords go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
Cleave targets is dumped on only powersword from memory.
Getting like 270% cleave is disgusting
Which one? Standard, Falchion, or Relic Blade?
POWERSWORD.
Don't hurt me, was asking for clarification... they all kinda are?
The literal POWER SWORD.
Oh, the POWERSWORD?
Mowersword
Yes the POWER SWORD
Power falchion so cooooolll
power sword is real good if you like reloading a fuckin melee weapon
Shit is just a shotgun with extra steps
Tf2 Heavy POW
I want hotshot lasgun and ogryn brass knuckles
one button is all it takes
poxwalker explodes
fist weapons really shoulda been a thing
I knock having the hotshot would probably become the meta for vet but uhh
Yeah, well I don't like it.
It's on the miniature
We already have plasma
One more meta weapon would be a good thing for variety lmao
still one of vet's best melee weapons by a wide margin
"hold on horrors beyond comprehension, I have to re-up the minutes on my power sword"
plus it makes a cool whoooosh sound
Anything except the axes are better
whooooooooosh
With how fast the recon lasgun can kill and stagger several enemies
The hotshot would be delectable
I fucking NEED a heavy mg for vet
Now hear me out
vvvwwooo shoooossss vwwoooommmm whoooossss
that gorgonum and achlys ain't dropping man...
charge cancel
Kills the horrors in 2 swings
That goddamn left side of the talent tree has been taunting vets for 3 years
power sword dislikers literally have a skill issue
Power falchion is far superior.
"I guess that was comprehensible "
When shooting it takes a second to actually fire and slows ypu down even more
I’d love to kick a gunner down tbh
Brother
Power sword is dumb powerful
I just don't like it.
the humble bully club:
Feels icky to me
Though you can use the special move to start up the hotshot
those came through so fast
I said a no-no word.
mashallah
What does this mean, Narcissus? 
I need to hear you say it
But uh, having dumb takes because your favorite YouTuber praises a weapon does not mean it is a good take
Say waluigi
You're not being serious rn
You're on some crazy stimms to say this
Please
Unless you're talking vibes
😭
in all seriousness i understand why some people have a problem with it, it's just one of those things you can get used to rather quickly
Which, I guess I can see that.
WALUIGI NUMBER ONE!
😔
Like that?
One might say they're...master...baiting
I mean, I definitely got used to it.
What?
Hambone
I just don't like the feel.
It's just a good melee
feels ok to me, idk
i need 170 diamantine
¯_(ツ)_/¯
The power sword?
There's better things that don't require a finnicky on/off switch
Ok express now why you think the power Falchion is better
me humble latrine shovel:
Yeah i prefer shovel and power falch over the power sword
just wish it was better
Stack blessings right and you can have it repowered almost instantly, and it lasts much much longer without breaking flow of combat
yeah
The humble rager
i wished the cleaver was bigga
Ok how about the damage? Cleave? Stagger?
Issue with falchion
The power falch is my eye candy
Amount of targets it can kill per swing?
Same with chainsword
me cleaver looks smol on me hands sah i want something bigga
how many hours do you have and what difficulty do you play?
+300% cleave perk go brrrt
Is that it lacks in some major ways that you'd want out of a melee
Doesn't help it that much
💀
I've played since the beta. I chill at Damnation, but regularly do Auric
Cleave distribution will make the damage fall off hard on further targets in your swing.
THis guy in my game just keeps screaming "COME ON NOW" like a redneck into his mic
Now that'd be okay to me.
based
If it weren't for the fact
Zealot?
Hive Scum
That it doesn't stagger anything I'd want it to stagger reliably.
No way
I'm not using my melee weapon for carapace, I'm using literally anything else for armored
power falchion benefits: doesn't weigh you down when you move around
psword benefits: everything else
Ah. You have Louisiana Man in your game
Trying to deal with ragers with falchion is highkey just depressing
It should be so much better than it is currently
and then you still lose damage against power sword btw
But
I would rather not deal with ragers in melee in the first llacd
On horde clear? Tf I don't lmao
if you want to deal with carapace with your melee weapon and you really wanna be optimal about that specifically and while having great mobility stats, you should use the dueling sword mk4. HOWEVER that thing doesnt clear hordes well, while psword can do both.
Plasma or kraks
plasma doesn't kill carapace xd
Aaaaaah
Cause I'm not trying to fuckin pingpong around trying to kill a single crusher
See, but I'm built different and want to fight ragers in melee
Waluigi. 
I want problems up close
Just 2 shot it with Power Sword dawg
Always
Laughs in Branx
I've been revving my heavy eviscerator for that. Seems to work fairly well.
I want to fight a rager
power sword kills crusher with one combo without crits
But i acknowledge the flaws of a weapon
And work around it to have both weapons feed off each other
rev eviscerator mk15 -> do a heavy attack -> while you are sawing into the crusher, use fury of the faithful -> profit
Idk. I just think a powered weapon should have some more reliable stagger against such targets.
Which means infantry lasgun or combst shotgun with 17 shells crammed down it
got it so you're saying i should use the recon on crushers
At least while it's powered obviously
It used to do a lot better
Bonus points if you have time to dumpster a brittleness bolter into the target 1st xD
guy who stims off the sound carapace makes when the lasers do fucking nothing to it
I'm going to kill myself and my note will have your name is what you said quoted
Then Crushers became fuckin biblical figures after some undercooked patch
:3
Shoot more > shoot once and end good fight
crushers being minibosses = good
game still spamming crushers = bad
it's fixable, i hope they do something about it soon.
I might have overreacted
That's just it, anytime a crusher spawns it turns into a godamn Crusher conga line of gorilla sodomy
Nope, krak, stealth and forget
i had a vet shooting every crusher in a rotten game with recon while they had ds mk4 :)
without onslaught too
Pls no like I love the Recon and you can build a Recon with rending and brittleness on Vet to kill Crushers and it's still not worth because the 6.5k HP pool means even if you're killing it with enough armour pen you're spending forever to get it done. It's not worth shooting Crushers on a Recon anymore imo and tbh it was questionable a while ago too before the Crusher HP buff when they only had 4k HP but it was at least funny. If you really want to shoot a Lasgun at Crushers take a Helbore
i was baiting im sorry </3
Helbore will always be Crusher-bane
Ah ok no worries I only just saw chat and didn't have context LOL
Bro will literally not 2 shot crushers with power sword then say power sword is bad
Just wish it was more than Crusher-bane. Every match becomes a series of fiery hoops
I'm too employed to be 100% accurate with Helbore every match
Helbore feels so much like it's as strong as it is because they designed it poorly as a joke LOL
IM GOING TO BED GUYS
Bad sights, bad weapon swap time, charge shot mechanic, slow reload and the hardest hitting variant has an awkward bayonet swing
good night fatin
But it's allowed to be an infinite ammo Lasgun with shock trooper and surgical because it's so awkward that you're fighting the weapon as much as you're fighting the enemy
And allowed to hit so hard because the weapon requires time to practice and adjust to how it plays different to every other gun
The biggest mistake touching Helbore was nerfing it to be slower and no longer work with the vet-melee perks
Brutal Momentum bayonet was so so funny LMFAO
I get why they did it but man it was so fun I wish they didn't
What a hamfisted, sloped foreheaded decision that shit was
I see why they did it because you could kinda just never look at your melee
and they want you to need to swap melee for gameplay
well they dont need you to lol
Sounds pretty bullshit
they just dont want you to
meow
I think only Psyker is allowed to play 100% ranged if they want to
Scum used to before the Pickpocket nerf
but for most classes they definitely want players to shift between ranged and melee combat
It's probably the same reason why FS made flamer secondary fire the stream instead of the primary
Cuz flamers were too good in melee scenarios
Bro will literally not 2 shot crushers with power sword then say power sword is bad
Having a strictly worse melee attached to your gun when you can instantly swap to melee isn't incredibly useful either, it's only really there to allow you to melee without needing to draw your slow hellbore again 
you can get a reliable 2 tap Crusher with the Mk VI Power Sword on powered push attack + light between Skirmisher and Focus Target so
You're a sentient power sword or some shit the way you keep white knighting for it
Not even on that topic anymore
yeah even before they removed how it interacted with your melee weapon and melee talents it was still not the weapon you wanted to wield into a Rager swarm but it was and still is fine for bayoneting the annoying poxwalker/groaner sneaking up and taking out the pox hound in a very satisfying stab
plus if you sit on a Helbore 24/7 and never swap you're asking poxbursters to turn you into a jigsaw puzzle
Helbore could knock back Poxbursters, once.
🥀
Bro
You're saying it's bad then saying Falchion is better 🥀
And my internet is also shit atm so nothing ever gets delivered in time

Just deal with it
OOOOOH, YOU GOT IN TROUBLEEE
I still do stagger knockback Poxbursters on the Mk V Helbore tbh but I'm not entirely clear on the stagger threshold to make that consistent
Fuck you Hadron
Helbore doesn't sound like was too op :/
I've noticed that I can make them stumble back with charged shots when they're far enough away to safely snipe
It never was, it just used to be more usable
Yeah
internet moment
It was very
This fella is king of hot takes, but like hot dog shit takes
If you cound sell all those wheelchairs you'd have like $60k
I just remember seeing videos of Vets dueling Plogryns and Chaos Spawns using exclusively the bayonet and the funny way it interacted with your melee weapon blessings + melee talents and thought it was so so funny
Helbore went from being a good melee weapon to being a good ranged weapon
Son you're the one that thinks Falchion is better than Psword
You literally beat me at shit takes

Arguably kinda broken with the BM bug
Well back to watching From I go!
Good until you're touching Havoc/Auric Maelstroms
wdym Helbores are fine there too
I literally played with a Helbore vet in rotten armor
Just last nighg
There's not a single ranged weapon out there with infinite ammo that can 4 shots a havoc plague Ogryn
not with rotten armour tho LOL
It's just Helbore
They quite literally were the reason we didn't get harassed by specialists
Just too many better options to take by a large margin. I'm not saying it's not viable, it just takes too much effort by comparison to literally everything else
I feel like you're seriously undervaluing how strong it is.
but don't you not play havoc? you said you mostly play damnation
The effort being to simply headshot everything? 
I played Havoc for the penances and got tf out
when i play vet in havoc it's usually helbore too
Helbore is one of the few ranged weapons that can reliably handle carapace. And efficiently too.
Helbore Mk4 is statistically the hardest hitting ranged weapon in the game
Yeah man, I don't wanna work 12 hours and come home just to squint real fuckin hard to not miss a single shot.
The most efficiently actually if we're not talking psyker 
Helbore is so strong and as long as you're building your tree right to offset some of the downsides it's fine
Just take One Motion to offset the swap speed as an example
Like I said earlier, I love the Helbore with a burning passion - But I don't have that kinda energy to keep up with it every match
hiiii

well the larpers are here so im gonna go push this boulder up a hill now
...wut
Probably this summer
that soon? 
They said they’d already been working on the class a long time
They weren’t going to say anything until after a content update, which was expeditions
Hope the new class is fun, Im tired of one tricking the zealot lol
So next is the class 
It's AdMech for sure this time right?? Right???
Tau firewarrior 
Lmao what “content”?

Their words, not mine 
Expeditions causes me physical pain
We're gonna get a Sister of Battle on a penance assignment
Likely yes
It is the year of the mechanicus
I’d be disappointed tbh
I’d actually step away from the game at that point. I can only be disappointed by no cool AdMech class for so long lmao
Pls Fatshark
Yep cuz they read this chat now they're gonna rework the AdMech class into a combat servitor class.
I'd love Skitaari but I know that's unrealistic to ask
Just anything AdMech flavoured
I'll take a combat servitor too idc
let me forsake flesh
I will spend dumb amounts of money (again)
The data mining shows the new class has a Skitarii melee
Sicarian Ruststalkers signature transsonic blades
Don't give me hope
oooh cool
But I expect to somehow be disappointed lmfao
Yeah plz Fatshark. Let me forsake my flesh and spend my spare income on new costmetics!
I want to be excited
Tbh I was pleasantly surprised with Hive Scum. It ended up being way more fun as a class than I expected. I saw a lot of the anger from the community while I was taking a break from the game and thought that must have been so awkward for Fatshark LOL
I just worry for the state of the game when Skitarii is released
Vet is still my #1, Arbites ended up #2, but Scum ended up my third fav class and I never expected it to be
I think it was mostly because of the theme. Basically they let us play a crackhead from Ohio.
What about the game has you worried? 
Expeditions sucks
Every class release has come with power creep
The common connection errors are still rampant
Power creep is breaking the game
I have a hate for League of Legends but a love for Arcane so I was so down for the aesthetic and the psychic damage I would take thinking about LoL while playing the class
And the game is already struggling with itself as is
Yeah the game has felt a lot more unstable than it used to be
I honestly hope we get a Darktide 2 and FS swap over to UE 5.4 or higher.
It’s just bargain bin Helldivers but with none of the fun stuff imo.
The only thing I can say is that while the gameplay has felt like it's got some issues
I haven't been disconnected constantly
Dumpster diving for salvage is not fun
It's a lot more rare
i havent been disconnected in months atp
Some games there's weird lag. But yeah no DCs
I play league every day 
The only error code I see with any regularity is the code that pops up when you attempt to quickplay into a match and it fails, and tbh even that's rare now. I almost never see it and just get dropped into a match instead
Why do you torture yourself
Id get banned if i said
Freaks
Same reason people play havoc
Truke
How much is 4 + 9
I'm sorry. I played it way too much in high school and college before I got out. Good luck
Its not that bad 
I liked Heroes of the Storm more, back when Blizzard cared about their IPs. Cuz it was more team orientated and softened the hard carry snowball situations.
We are killing you with hammers
For your sake
I started playing league after Vainglory shut down
ogryn does not need buffs tbh
Heroes of the Storm was a neat idea but wow they shot themselves in the foot over their lost legal battles against DOTA
time to devour this ice cream
They tried to steal an IP instead of actually compete n' it backfired bad
The way they handled Warcraft Reforged was an absolute mess and entirely caused by them being upset about DOTA
why
very strong right now
is this bait
Yeah and they'll never get over it
The real dumb thing was that Heroes of the Storm is the PERFECT F2P cross--promotional tool for Blizzard/Activision. It could have been used as free marketing, basically.
No moba will ever be what Vainglory was to me tbh
I'm not an Ogryn player so I'm not sure what buffs they need but I think Ogryn and Zealot definitely need buffs
ogryn can have damage on similar levels to psyker while having much more control
Zealot is fine imo
I think their Stunstorm grenade is bad and their fire nade is worse
Ah
heavy eviscerator
But I'm also not a Zealot so I can't really comment on the rest of their balance
You might be right, I only use knives
yea thats right you better not shittalk my throwing knives
I think the fire nade definitely needs love at the very least
fire nades are good for certain 'oh fuck' situations where you gotta carry the team
they're really, really bad
I think most people use knives because they are forced into it 
Outside of penances I have used nothing but throwing knives since they were introduced lol
yeah knife is the only real choice for Zealot blitz imo
and knife is good but it shouldn't be the only real choice
Love me some dota
Ogryn needs a readjustment
stun nades are viable and useful, though certainly weaker than other classes' non-refillable blitzes
would a golf club be an effective weapon in darktide
It's not as simple as buffs or nerfs
I kinda wish I could've gotten into DOTA for how fun it looked but I'm thankful I didn't because I'd still be lost in that game today if I did
The flame barrel you can buy in expeditions feels like a test for what a buffed version of that grenade would be
Ogryn needs better guns
That's about it
Or at least not as many
I miss smite damnit
I was into it back when it was a wc3 mod xD
Then they came out with new fangled smite 2 garbage
is smite dead?
you don't think Frag Bomb needs more love?
I mean the buff to instakilling human sized enemies is nice for wiping mauler monday moments but it feels so weak compared to Scum rocket still
Oh you mean the game by hi rez studios lol
i thought it and smite 2 existed simultaneously
Yeah they really fucked that up
They split what little remained of their playerbase for it
ahh
Honestly we should give it an extra charge
But ogryn still needs better guns
that does make sense yeah
No no they abandoned doing anything with the original smite after firing everyone and hiring new people

The new one looks okay but is missing the majority of the content from 1 and none of the skins port over
agreed 100%
i personally think they should just nerf scum's nades
with the power creep going on that's probably the better/correct move yeah
at least boom bringer, given that chem needs an extra node to rlly work
Blackouts are fine imho
besides blackouts, ya
-1 charge on boom bringer imo brings it much more in line with everything else
Nah
It doesn't
Yep. Fatshark really wanted us to roleplay an Ohioboi when they made the Hive Scum class.
We should nerf Tox nades just so it stops eating frames
You only have 1 frag bomb
Give Ogryn +1 Frag in reserve, remove 1/2 from Scum rocket
You'd still have 2 rockets with -1
Scum still has that talent for +1 rocket
I eat tox grenades for breakfast
thirsty
And you have the node that gives you an extra one
Reminds me of the mustard gas
OK Soldier Boy, calm down. There's no commies here.
Damn commies
xD
maybe the +1 nade node should be removed too idk. but rn it does let you path to chem dependency if you want it on a non-tox build
Ogryn might be my least played class tbh but that would change if they give them a power fist
rig a car battery to a gate and duct tape it to their hand idc
lemme PUNCH
I love the rocks too
They should just let us punch with the rock in hand
Can we at least duct tape the car battery and grate to the rock?
Every time I lose my pants it's the ogryn who eats them
I mean, it's meh on blackouts but kinda busted on Boombringer and Chems. Wish it did more than just +1 for blackouts.
I'd be down for replacing the +1 blitz node on Scum
we should pick one groaner variant and just nerf the fuck out of it
Replace it with a +2 blitz
I'd do Vet Tinkerer style shenanigans to replace it tbh

Radius increase on chem nade as an example
Blitzes need more regen...
Vets are built on it, but other classes I feel some need more regen for them to feel more worth taking
A cat in a hat
I think Stunstorm grenade would be a better pick if it had regen
Exactly
Why take shock mines, when dog do the same thing and regen?
Because shock mines also regen with lone wolf and tbh lone wolf vs dog is mostly a playstyle preference but I've been leaning into lone wolf gameplay a lot more with castigator's stance
Arbites grenade is also fun with lone wolf because it also gets regen
Oh, my bad, forgot about Lone Wolf
during Rumbling Giants I'd go Lone Wolf Arbites and drop shock mines to help struggling groups
they were struggling groups so it wasn't like we were going to kill everything fast
but it did relieve pressure on them from the Crusher/Bulwark packs and help them recover
That all makes alotta sense, I just ran Krak Vet the whole time... praying that my regen moved faster while outrunning literal russian stacking dolls of Crushers
I did Helbore/Krak Vet but also tried Arbites and Scum for the first time during that event too
Scum having regen on rockets from the Rumbling Giants event was goofy
LOL
and also showcased Scum should never, ever get regen on rockets
No... it showcased why they SHOULD get regen on rockets
it was waaaaay too strong
But it was so much fun to see and experience
It was definitely fun but if they left it as is and gave it grenade regen the game balance would suffer for it
I think it was fine for just the funny event
How about a little regen? Just a smidgen?
I think I'd only agree to Chem nade regen and only if Zealot firestorm nade gets buffs and regen too but tbh the power creep is silly so I feel like that's too much
I'm ngl
If we eventually (we will) get every blitz Regen, then I'm afraid we'll get blitz buffs and nerfs according to the regen
hot take but every blitz should have a regen

Yes, with varying percentages and speeds obviously
Hiver got rockets because it's a blitz and Fatshark just wouldn't care balancing it
Go play Mortis Trials instead.
I did, got Remembermancer, need moar
look here's a nade pickup, should we give it to ogryn for 1 okayish frag bomb use or to hive scum for 4. FUCKING. ROCKETS.
First come first served. I don't care.
Followed by flamer zealot
WW3 over my ammo crate charge for 'nades as well.
Krak..
dorokrak
I find it funny (not really) that the devs removed Vet’s ammo crate upgrade ability to regen grenades for teammates when they result from the big expeditions ammo bin.
I CAN SEE THE FUCKING GRENADES IN THERE FATSHARK!
Anyways. Another reason why Expeditions sucks
:)
My fav thing to do as a Helbore Vet is tell the PBB Twin Stubber Frag bomb Ogryn the ammo crate is all his and regens his grenades because I have field improv
It's immense joy seeing them go wild LOL
I love field Improvement Vets in Mortis Trials
I know, I used to play vet just so everyone got cheap 'nades. I could care less.
Five. Hundred. Nuclear Boxes of Hurt.
So back to playing psyker and scum on expeditions.
One of my favorite parts of playing zealot is nearly never using my actual ranged weapon and pinging all the ammo for others
I’m only sticking around till I get these last two bs Expeditions penances done.
Then I’m gonna play Mordhau for a good while
The little things you can do to support the team are so nice
You mean... SALVAGE?
I am slowly losing the mood because the numbers are too high to the point it feels like a chore.
psykers get this benefit with no downside
Always love seeing a trigger happy arby or vet realize I just handed them an ammo crate I found lol
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. An adamantium room. Filled with Salvage. And Salvage makes me crazy…
The mode isn't that fun and shit for new players who need resources.
Arby Exterminator's Shotgun Castigator's Stance Blessed Armanent is heaven when you aren't competing for ammo
And they should be nerfed 
I swear that Shotgun has THE best audio design in the game
Bolter and relic blade are up there but yes it sounds so chunky to fire
That is one of the truest things I've read here today
Blessedly satisying shotgun cocking sound effect
Yeah Boltgun full auto is music to my ears too
I need to play Zealot again and learn what the deal is with Relic Blade because I've never played with it before
Like, I get more resources from karking train.
i feel like dt does the chainsword and boltgun best out of any 40k game
Boltgun, yes. Chainsword, no.
Since I can run it 3-4 times in the same time as 1 run of expeditions.
Space Mid 2 does chainswords better imo
Chainsword visuals and audio are done well. But mechanically I think it suffers in game balance
sm2 somehow still has no eviscerators
It's good on Scum at least
or relic blades
And a power fist
still it actually does the thammer really well
Slow, but hits very hard. Combos take some practice to master but you can chain single and horde clear attacks consistently with it once you do
I'm a Helbore Vet main so a weapon that forces me to practice to unlock the potential is music to my ears
Except that the thunder hammer role in sm2 does not match the lore or tabletop description whatsoever
After I get back from Fanfest I'll give Relic Blade a try for sure
relic blade is my favorite class
Skill issues are the best kind to resolve
give it to arby
i will clear all of tertium by my lonesome
yea
Arby with a one handed psword and shield might be interesting
Lasguns are as good as the the Guardsman wielding it... unless its the Kantrael
They should have given ogryn a dual shield option
Literally good enough for H40, unless the player skill issues with it.
Hey whats arbites best blitze for crowd control?
I can give you a reason to Eula stare
did you know Eula's arse does a jiggle on her 4th move in her basic combo
Obviously the funny dog bomb
shock mine
K thanks
Shock mine, but the dog is better... bc of dog of course
Got it
I made my GF run Eula for me, so...
run?
Alright thank you
like you played co-op and she brought eula?
Yes. It is the only ranged weapon worth shooting at Crushers on higher difficulties. It has infinite ammo between Surgical and Shock Trooper. The Exe Stance and Marksman's Focus buffs have made uptime for the ability and keystone easy to maintain. The damage is very, very strong. One Motion alleviates your slow swap speed woes. Also I run it with Tac Axe commonly because it's a very good melee sidearm considering how many talent points you need to invest into the bottom left of Vet tree to see the Helbore shine to the full potential
She plays Genshin. I don't.
oh right I see
"only weapon worth shooting at crushers"
the humble revolver
was gonna say
Not on H40.
hand cannon surgical is RIGHT there
Always has been
Anyways they got slightly better sights nowadays
Based
the gentle and loving plasma gun
I used to run helbore dry
You can shoot the Vraks and Revolver at Crushers. But you also have to pay attention to ammo. And for higher difficulties you will strain ammo shooting at Crusher pain trains while Helbore can literally go the whole match never touching an ammo tin
because it holds its own without perks
Vraks IAG can kill Crushers too but say bye to your ammo when you spend it killing a Crusher pack
Plasma gun is fun, and very very blue
Shooting crushers with plasma 🥀
don't shoot your gun
It's so weird Plasma doesn't ever want to shoot Crushers when it feels by lore THE weapon to shoot at Crushers
But, what if, RED?
Son, that's heresy
Listen I know it has 7 strength on the tabletop shit
But this is darktide, get your wargame ass back to warcon or something
Mmm, heresy flavored plasma, also very tasty too
Fanta flavored plasma
where is sergal btw
asleep
The holy blue raspberry vs the EVIL strawberry
I wanna talk about how dogshit I found warhound to be
he was around here a bit ago
maybe yesterday
oh well it'll come up eventually
so are you two together
Oh I don't touch tabletop. I have poor impulse control and bad spending habits. I see a meth addiction in minis and know to stay away
I just think Plasma not being worth shooting at armour is funny
It’s funny, that the stuff can still down space marines too
Yeah
Space Marines are using Plasma to kill each other in SM2 but if you use Plasma to shoot a Crusher everyone thinks you're either new or dumb LOL
But... red is FASTER

1 more hour of work. :(
I’ll just buy another one.
2 hours before MORE work 
Lock in for raise
Minis and dice do be like that
I'm sorry
Mordhau is fun
I enjoyed playing it back on Console
Used to skate around on the Pavise as Jesus
Or run a Biblically accurate Jesus build and whack people with wooden mallets / carpentry fortifications
You see, I understand all those words separately... but when strung together like that they give me whiplash
No its not

: (
You haven’t had the Mordhau experience pal

Is crush still a cocaine addict?
I remember some of my core memories of that game were brawls between cartoon character cosplayers
Who
One of the developers
He's a prick
Same
Llongyfarchiadau
But I could go for a sandwich
What kind?
Well, it’s not my business to check in on whether the developers are throwing their lives away. I’m just here to have fun playing Mordhau
Indeed, I have not
Tomato, pepper jack cheese, forest smoked ham, lettuce

Now only if mordhau was fun
I loved being a menace with bear traps
Agree to disagree
I have fun throwing rocks at people
In the game
That is
Or having Master Chef fights with 3 other Gordon Ramsey cosplayers
Hey, im not active in this server but i have to say theres very strange buggy things happening with the game atm and i see it effecting lots of players mental state. I have to leave forever and hope you all know that your always good enough no matter what 🖤 o7
THIS CHICKEN IS RAW! 
The ogryn experience
Hwyl fawr 👋
We used to whack each other to death with frying pans in a free for all
HEY
MORONS
IM HERE . SAY HI.
(jk ur all so much cooler than me)
There was also the occasional clarinet band with Squidward cosplayers.
Thnx appreciate it.
Kindest gray name message
o? were u at a con
aaw.. thank you so much
No, I’m talking about Mordhau shenanigans
FUCK!
Hehe
go to a con anyways
i saw some cool peeps last time i went con-going
i'm already examining this person's content
I have a pocketsatxh and a sundial
such as TWO ENTIRE STALKER COSPLAYERS
awww its so cute
Gregor Samsa!
Is it edible?
We're grilling you
this grayname has uploaded a lot of darktide content to their page https://www.youtube.com/@keithcozart187/videos
i guess they play on south africa servers? unsure
snug as a bug in a rug
Just what magic did my parents do to make their bed so much better..
am i stupid or are there just not any hacks shown in this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QE46KzxoQ
😮
kills you
Zero clue what they mean
FUCK I HAVE TO FIND A BUS FOR TOMORROW
there's this one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePh2uyELc0M
O deer
No deer
Doe, a deer?
You just gave me flashbacks to The Sound of Music
The hills are alive with the sound of GUNFIRE AND MORTAR ROUNDS
Who has 2 thumbs and missed their first PT appointment? Me 😤
It could be worse
They could have no thumbs
He could have only 1 thumb?
Yes
This would be tragic
That is certainly worse than 1 thumb

Or I could be all thumbs, no fingers or toes, just thumbs
That one right there Inquisitor, there's the mutant
hes on our side dw
Yeah!
Don't threaten me with a good time mate
That would be an Arbites problem though?
Def not. That's way above their pay grade
2 days late? Exterminatus
Omg guys 😭 I DECIDED TO WEAR A NURGLE PENDANT IN MY HIVE CITY AND THE ARBITES YELLED "DIE LEXBREAKER!" AND I INTRODUCED MYSELF.(I have a criminal voice) AND THEY ALL SHOT ME😭
Nah, they'll just tell Fulgrim where the planet is and tell him it's filled with supple femboys
The fact I know exactly what you’re parodying
NO
TWINKS AND FEMBOYS ARE A RESOURXE CRITICAL TO THE WAR EFFORT
yeesh
HOW WILL THE IMPERIAL GUARDSMEN FIGHT WITHOUT THEIR CHEAP GAY PORNMAGS
Twinks? Im... valid for once??
It's where the Tech Priests recruit their Skitarii from!
Yeah, see, I'm good like that!
What about big buff men?
those are critical
ALL TYPES OF MEN AND WOMAN ARE CRITICAL
Sexcellent
THE GOD EMPEROR LOVES YOU ALL EQUALLY
Thats where the Custodes recruit from!
Not well. Have you seen what happens to a man during no nut November?
yeah my point
give the men the resources to goon
I heard that it happened during the Battle for Armageddon?
What about the women?
Sisters of Battle, duh
Hello plant
gay porn mags for them too
Oh okay
I tried reading Warhound. It’s shit
I think heard you don't like books though?
yeah wasn't it a corpo psyop
In the grim dark future there is no room for sexism. Only war.
Oh yeah no I hate books but sometimes I really love one
Huh?
read human domestication guide instead
I told you I don’t like that one either
I even mqde a little review for warhound let me show you
did you actually read the original story
That is correct.
Unless Daemonculaba
Let's not lol
Are there half-xenos?
I mean I tell some really fucked up jokes but that there is too much lmao
Not anymore
Oh okay
I mean the whole “affini are destined to win” made me lose interest
tbf the original story has very little of that
Old lore had half eldar ultramarines... we don't talk about old lore
the entire matter of HDG 'canon' and the axioms were ducktaped on later
no idea why though, the excuse of 'predominantly transfem setting' and 'defending some foundational values' irks me in the wrong direction
Considering. You know. You can just read the warning and not complain that you read a non-standard HDG story.
You know who's my 'favorite' old lore author? CS Goto. That guy was a legendary troll.
Best way to grind for diamantine?
GUILLIMAN!!!
Quickplay damnation
Ty
Mortis Trials if you're feeling spicy
Half eldar ultramarines in the old lore
Yeah stupid 1st edition
Half eldars sounds like a cool idea, add space marine to it and its not as cool anymore
In modern lore it would be impossible

But... what about the Robot Gorillaman and shoeless Yvraine fanfics?
Haven’t gotten around to trying those yet, do people still play that mode?
Fanfics
Yeah, its pretty active on Auric still last I checked... but that was just before Expeditions
Why can't Robert Gachaman be happy?
Always
what is vulkan's last name
Can't tell if bait or serious...
Anyone else wonder what's in the ghost network that freaks the necrons out?
AAAAAHHHH! 25 more minutes of work. :(
Fair enough, lore answer: not all Primarchs have surnames, their names were given to them by the mortals who raised them.
i seee
or what's up with the ghoul stars?
Ghoul stars if I recall correctly had some eldritch horror dark age of tech malarky... spacing on details.
Im unfamiliar with this lore completely
Salamander
necrons have teleport tech that uses a different dimension and it freaks them out even though they don't have emotions
cuz they feel something there
They don't have souls or presence in the Warp I think anymore... so I don't know?
yeah afaik its just a big blank never been developed past the initial concept
It is necron tech though, maybe the ctan came from there
What
DARK TIDINGS
Kinda like the deep warp, there's like 1 instance of it being a thing then left as a grander mystery
Ctan were fart clouds that ate stars i thought? That the Necrontyr trapped in physical form, then they discovered that souks taste good?
Where'd they come from though? Were they eternal forces? Did they have a beginning?
Even the chaos gods have a beginning so I assume they do too
mrrrrp
A fair question
Vulkan is his last name, Primarch is his first
Based answer, 10/10
I mean what cause for me u were talking to no one 💀 forgot i had a guy here blocked due to my plugin that removes blocked messages
took me a while to figure it out
Ohhhh
Now I kinda wanna know the context 
Well it ranged from Ghoul Stars, Necron Teleportation, and Ctan Fart Clouds
Weren't they though? Before the Necrontyr decided to catch them and stuff them physical forms?
Aa
GAS GAS GAS
Ate stars and had gas, fart clouds
COME ON AND STEP ON THE GAS
No you?
No image perms but pretend a spartan from halo 3 wearing full CQB but one shoulder is hyabusa falls down and dies
did a match and it bugged out cuz we couldn't end the mission bruh ong bugshark moment
Condolences bruddah
Got DCed 4 times in havoc like 2 weeks back
If it softens the blow
literally did the last part of that ritual thing, were we destroyed the tubes and the mission didn't end we decided just to just all of us die to end the mission lmao
at least i got 130 diamantine
Ah man recently got my brain exploded in the door way to that place.
Ogyrn chortling over my corpse said its a glitch
Something about the door and intro animation
Damn Warp shenanigans
fatshark: "it isn't bugs its the warp doing shit"
Your ass is gas and I'm the gas man
... that actually sounds a bit gross
In that case, warp blessed me with a forehead vent
🙏
fucking bugshark man, just fought tooth and nail to finish an auric mission with a group of braindead pubs, only for it to not complete and instead send endless waves of enemies until we all got downed. 10/10
also ogryn pickaxe is great, at last i can kill crushers decently
Gas so bad Frog People homebrewed a race of Mushroom Peope to fight.
The War in Heaven was just an indigestion fight
also eldarussy
I wonder what would have happened if the old ones just fixed Necrotyr DNA lol
That did the Watership Down rabbit thing a 4th Chaos God into existence
Coulda just said "Sure, we'll fix your busted genetics"
It was a Taco Bell Box Combo Meal
And make the Warp pay for it


