general-chat

[delicate vapor]

[jaunty path]

Thats another thing

[hazy kestrel]

The servers themselves are garbage

[jaunty path]

Solo mode is offline

So

I dont need to worry about crashes

[hazy kestrel]

But I’d assume no penance progress right?

[jaunty path]

Nope

[hazy kestrel]

Fuck

Okay

[jaunty path]

no progress none you dont get any materials or anything

[hazy kestrel]

Well that’s not ideal

[jaunty path]

NOTHING.

And thats ok

[hazy kestrel]

Because I would like to be done with this bs grind

[jaunty path]

you get a whole load of enemies

all on your own

I dont think solo mode has expeditions yet

maybe in the future

but currently idk

[hazy kestrel]

Expeditions was been a complete waste of dev time. They should have spent that time fixing everything

[jaunty path]

or making solo mode

[hazy kestrel]

But no. Because we live in the worst timeline, we get this nonsense

:(

Anyways, my rant is done

For now

[jaunty path]

real talk I would just stop playing this lmao

[dire kayak]

i mean

to be fair

[jaunty path]

if its stressing you out

[hazy kestrel]

I’m not stressed

[dire kayak]

expeditions isnt the worst thing that couldve been made

[hazy kestrel]

I’m just pissed off for the moment

Anyways. I’m gonna go play Skyrim or something

Or maybe do some laundry

Idk

[delicate vapor]

[dire kayak]

the community probably wouldve had a similar reaction if expeditions was actually chaos wastes

[tawdry edge]

Skill issue

[stiff salmon]

that's... not a high bar.

[hazy kestrel]

Bugger off, please

[hazy kestrel]

You know what, you’re actually right.

[jaunty path]

[hazy kestrel]

The devs do have a skill issue for not being able to fix these errors after 3 years

[jaunty path]

Personman I think playing something like ultrakill would be more rewarding

ngl

[hazy kestrel]

I’m playing Skyrim right now

Or I’m gonna

[jaunty path]

Thats decent

[tawdry edge]

Bro forgets everything is a capitalism ploy to steal money from the players with the slop shop

[stiff salmon]

and getting stuff like instant pox burster during cutscene in dark communion back in. yay.

[hazy kestrel]

Once I stop typing

[dire kayak]

to play devils advocate making a game is really hard, especially on an outdated engine

[graceful hamlet]

A bit more entertaining mode with actual roguelike elements would’ve at least been something. Instead of this awkward Helldivers attempt

Also scaling rewards

[hazy kestrel]

But it’s the same error, probably thousands of recurring instances of this. It shouldn’t be hard to figure out what the heck causes it

Or at least similar errors across different error numbers

[clever horizon]

do rewards not scale in expedition that's crazy

[hazy kestrel]

Rant over. For real this time

[delicate vapor]

someone say burger

[dire kayak]

thats fair

[graceful hamlet]

The fact that tech remnants don’t scale is baffling since that’s the only reason to play it

[dire kayak]

i finally got the 100 super credit drop

that cut my grinding time in half

[graceful hamlet]

It’s why everyone farms Malice for the penance

[clever horizon]

lol thats awful

fatshark...

[delicate vapor]

[tired inlet]

Heresy High Intensity

or even damnation high intensity; have some self-respect

[stiff salmon]

one of the problems is that the loot system feels really pointless. wow now i gotta loot stuff that I can trade in the sanctuary for rng stuff that I probably do not need? and it is not only new stuff but everything? so if I want stuff that will or will not be available I have to collect the generic currency anyway? In a normal mission if I see stuff I don't want, I don't need to walk over there and collect it anyway. yay! so innovative and fullfilling.

[tired inlet]

but it's not about you, it's about the team

[stiff salmon]

teamplay in a co-op game? delusional!

[jaunty path]

whats the topic now

[stiff salmon]

expeditions

[jaunty path]

bad game mode

next.

[tired inlet]

you're probably going to need ammunition, and if not that, grenades

[stiff salmon]

cries in psyker.

[tired inlet]

and if you're a staff psyker, then a mortar shell or a shock mine can be useful, if not a concentration stim

[marsh iris]

hello lovelies

[tired inlet]

or picking up a medkit for someone

I have bought team-mates shit before

[stiff salmon]

ofc it can be. still this is not how the "loot shiny things - feel great" loop works in human brains.

it feels awful.

[tired inlet]

I think we had a new player who was coming in with 1 wound and since you can't buy medicaid, I bought a health stim and injected them for it

[tropic grove]

if i get to rank 16 pandemoun do i get the reward?

i am currently at 13

[tired inlet]

rank 16 what now

[delicate vapor]

oh havoc

[stiff salmon]

havoc? you get a chest each week - the amount of ressources in it depend on your completed level/rank.

[tired inlet]

is that what the French client calls it?

[tropic grove]

yeah but i still didn't receive anything i think, just dockets and a couple of plasteels

[stiff salmon]

german calls it "Verwüstung"

[tired inlet]

that's pretty funny that it's called pandemonium

[stiff salmon]

dockets, plasteel and dia are the rewards.

[tired inlet]

which is a French-vulgarization of a Latin "Every Demon"

[tropic grove]

yes but i mean i didn't receive any diamantine, just a little bit of dockets and plasteel

do i receive like, the legit reward once i reach 16?

[little marten]

🦀

[jaunty path]

Yeah like

early game

Resources are a huge issue unfortunately

and is really grindy

Thats the huge benefit of playing havoc.

[tropic grove]

"

For now I only have these numbers that I took from here and Reddit

(let’s assume that 0lvl gives 0 of everything)
16lv = 12000$, 2000d, 5000p
18lv = 15400$, 2270d, 6100p
20lv = 17300$, 2650d, 7100p
22lv = 19800$, 3140d, 8200p
30lv = 41000$, 7050d, 15200p
35lv = 73000$, 12600d, 22900p
40lv = 137400$, 23200d, 35100p

"

from a fatshark forum

[stiff salmon]

if you do a 16 and havoc weekly reset kicks in you get: 16lv = 12000$, 2000d, 5000p

[jaunty path]

completing a havoc 15 or more every week

Gets you good resources

Havoc 15 is really not that hard

dont worry about the modifiers

[tropic grove]

yeah thats what i been wondering cuz right now i am at 13, does it mean once i reach 16 do i get the rewards and then wait for it to reset?

[jaunty path]

I dont think the grind will ever go away

because grinding is what gives fatsharks hours.

[stiff salmon]

you get it with the weekly "reset" which is not really a reset - just a new assigned mission. the "real" reset is like quarterly?

[jaunty path]

it means

whenever fatshark does it

for some fucking reason

Actually

probably to make us grind more

this is why its okay to speedrun

[hazy kestrel]

I agree with you now.

On everything

I have become fundamentally changed after this past bs disconnect

[tropic grove]

yes but i mean do i get it if i reach 16 or it is just like... i gotta conform with the meassly dockets and plasteel?

[tawny valve]

Vous etes les meilleurs

[hard gorge]

who up grinding on GW's fat shark

[jaunty path]

Well surely not on everything lmfao.

[hazy kestrel]

Use mods, macros, speedrun bs, idgaf. Whatever lets you outrun the fucking bullshit disconnects that occur for no reason.

I just won’t use them though

[stiff salmon]

so more or less you do a 16, then the "reset" comes and you will get the 16 rewards with the new cache. you will not get anything instantly if you reach 16, just when it resets (the weekly one).

[jaunty path]

🤷

[hazy kestrel]

Because I’m too lazy to mod Darktide

[tight pine]

Question! Do you know about plasteel?

[hazy kestrel]

I have seen the light

[hazy kestrel]

I think

Yes

[fallen tree]

ive been resource bloated for so long, i forget that its a grind for ppl

[jaunty path]

the lights seep through the cracks

[tired inlet]

that first two weeks when only the host got rewarded instantly and the rest of the team had to wait for the week roll-over got people so fukken mad

[tropic grove]

i get it, so i reach 16, get the rewards and then wait for it to reset again i guess

[fallen tree]

i should pick up resources again

[tired inlet]

like, the number was there, but you didn't see the number and they were so angry

[hazy kestrel]

MY MIND IS BRIGHTER THAN IT EVER WAS! THE HIGHER I RISE, THE MORE IS SEE!

[jaunty path]

lmfao

[hazy kestrel]

Like the Moth, I can no longer deny the Glory. Into the fire we fly. The Carapace Cross is gone, but the Change is not.

[stiff salmon]

reach 16 - wait for weekly reset for cache/rewards. play another havoc (probably 17 now). you do not get demoted with the weekly reset. just the mission changes.

[dire kayak]

i got the creature spawner mod

[tropic grove]

got it, ty

[jaunty path]

do a havoc 16, then maybe keep playing havoc

[tight pine]

Uhh, can you please run an anti tzeentch program on your grey matter?

[jaunty path]

havoc up to around 23 probably is like

[hazy kestrel]

No

[hazy kestrel]

Cultist Simulator goes brrrr

[jaunty path]

normal difficulty

[tight pine]

Now

[tropic grove]

just to have a higher rank?, cuz once i do the 16 one i gotta wait for the next rewards

[hazy kestrel]

Yes

[delicate vapor]

i forgot i put Omniman as my dads pfp on messages

[hazy kestrel]

WE CAN FINALLY BE BEES!

[jaunty path]

Yeah higher levels completed means bigger rewards. I have like 200k DIamantine.

[tight pine]

Are you sure?

[tired inlet]

did he kill a bunch of people and cheat on your mom?

[tropic grove]

i mean, 2000d its already a lot for me lmao

[delicate vapor]

no

no..

[hazy kestrel]

God, the Omniman brainrot has already gotten to me

[delicate vapor]

[tired inlet]

that's what Omni-Man did

[hazy kestrel]

And I’ve never even seen the show

[tired steeple]

You ever get into something, it starts off shit, you hope it improves and then it doesn’t

[stiff salmon]

I did a 22 today that felt .... really really difficult. Probably because I had to do large parts of the mission solo. it's not easy for everyone - esp if you are just starting. (and I was a taunt ogryn to help the newcomers, did not save them).

[tight pine]

Sea salt!

[jaunty path]

Yeah idfk what to do with all this man I'd give you like half

[tired steeple]

So you realise you wasted your time

[blazing ibex]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people would have wanted Chaos Wastes over Expeditions

[wet swift]

Can we have a collab with mass effect? I really want a n7 armor for veteran, a krogan skin for ogryn and an asari skin for psyker, also weapon skins from mass effect will go hard

[tropic grove]

do u really?

[jaunty path]

Probably!

[blazing ibex]

Many were hoping Expeditions was basically a roguelite like Chaos Wastes

[jaunty path]

more like 5k

probably.

[tired steeple]

Also at least chaos wastes is actually good lol. Most new darktide content has been very lackluster

[hazy kestrel]

I was for sure :(

[tropic grove]

❤️

[dire kayak]

arrowhead knows im nearly at 1000sc so theyre taunting me by only giving me requisition slips and medals

[tired steeple]

What warbond are you going for?

[blazing ibex]

I was too because it would have been not only way better for the design of the game but

[tight pine]

Im gonna AAĂAÆAAÄÅĄ

[dire kayak]

the exosuit one in 7 days

[tired steeple]

Yeah fair

[dire kayak]

i FUCKING LOVE exosuits

[tropic grove]

i wish the same this with chaos wastes should have been applied to darktide, it is just a succesful formula i think instead of an extraction shooter mode

[dire kayak]

i always take them on every mission

[blazing ibex]

Also would have allowed newer players a way to engage with the weapon setups you get can in this game without actually having to master them

[tired steeple]

I’m gonna wait until they stop doing like 3 stratagems per warbond. They used to just give us them instead of making us farm

[wet swift]

Helldivers started really strong and fell really hard and really fast, too many controversies and dumb shit the devs said and did lok

[tight pine]

Yez, they ARE peak! Dispite whatever those “armor whiners” will say about it

[tired steeple]

Yeah. Maybe it’ll get improved over time but as it stands it’s like fine

[tropic grove]

fartdivers

[thick coyote]

Lumberer

No axe
No saw

[fiery zenith]

How are the MEOWBIANs able to hold out against two, admittedly ill-equipped or not-yet-fully-deployed regiments at the same time, while fighting against our band of rejected loons? They are supplemented by the ||Cult of Admonition|| and the corrupted tides of poxwalkers, but still... how?

[thick coyote]

Y'all getting scammed

[blazing ibex]

It really isn't fine tho

[thick coyote]

(adjacent)

[delicate vapor]

axed

[tired steeple]

Everyone hates the regular exosuit but idk I use that one more often than I use the anti tank exo

[tight pine]

Are you edible?

[tired steeple]

Autocanon?

I use the one with the gatling and rockets

[thick coyote]

Yes but you're not good enough for that

Shoo

[tropic grove]

"do not fear, ogryn is here"

[tight pine]

[thick coyote]

Fake advertising

Truly

A Helldivers moment

[tropic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-hit-the-jackpot-meme-meme-tiktok-meme-hakari-dance-jjk-gif-6703923743672646319

oh

embeded fail

[thick coyote]

Anyways the armor are literally Titanfall eh

Just lacking wall run

[tropic grove]

yall using stickers as gifs? 😭

[dire kayak]

5 more super credits

[fiery zenith]

I know. But seriously though...

[delicate vapor]

[tropic grove]

for the emprah

[jaunty path]

taunt ogyrns eat shit

[dire kayak]

finally a heavy armour to replace the force of law heavy armour

[thick coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[gloomy tartan]

Let’s get kraking

[thick coyote]

Everyone knows entrenched warbond heavy armor is the best in the game

[gloomy tartan]

💥

[thick coyote]

🗣️

[vivid kernel]

which channel to use to find auric maelstrom group?

[tropic grove]

if u want 40 havoc rank mission to be done u need tank ogryn

[blazing ibex]

[gloomy tartan]

Hey you guys going to chino con?

My bad I ment chimp con

[jaunty path]

no tf u dont

[thick coyote]

180 50% exdr, my beloved

[tired inlet]

is that the one about pants?

[blazing ibex]

We're still on this with "needed" classes for Havoc 40, huh

[gloomy tartan]

Missus

[tropic grove]

yeah just taunt enemies, then let ur teammates take care of them while u are shielded up

[gloomy tartan]

I’m rank 30 now missus

[jaunty path]

YEAH>

Its annoying bruh

[gloomy tartan]

Highest rank I ever did I mean

[dire kayak]

i keep missing my opportunities to buy that and it pisses me off

[fiery zenith]

No I mean I get that from our side. But the MEOWBIAN 53rd is actually supposed to be on the backfoot no?

[dire kayak]

i love heavy armours

[gloomy tartan]

I’m big strong

[jaunty path]

You dont need any fucking classes just better builds and better skill

[stuck crescent]

I have a life outside of you

[gloomy tartan]

Build so good

[stuck crescent]

Freak

[blazing ibex]

Yes. And then the taunt ogryn will backpedal into me while crushers are overheading and get me killed

[tropic grove]

want me some of me rations sah?

[tired inlet]

but Painted is a Krieg, proving you, in fact, do not

[blazing ibex]

I'm not saying this will happen everytime

What I am saying

[gloomy tartan]

Hey guys

[jaunty path]

yelloew krieg

[blazing ibex]

Is that you don't need a tauntgryn to beat 40

[dire kayak]

I FINALLY HAVE ENOUGH SUPER CREDITS

IM FREEE

[tropic grove]

nah skill issue

[stuck crescent]

He's talking about pasta

[fiery zenith]

Yes please, sweet brute. I can share some of my stimms

[stuck crescent]

Silly

[jaunty path]

Oh so just eat shit and die? lmfao

[gloomy tartan]

Stop farting during missions and getting the squads location found by enemies

[tight pine]

Are you sure?

[blazing ibex]

I mean it literally isnt.

[jaunty path]

Fuckin putting a beacon on yourself and DIE?

[gloomy tartan]

Shit piss and die

[jaunty path]

Wanna know whats better than being a meat shield? KILLING THINGS

JUST. KILL THEM.

[blazing ibex]

I know a particular player here legit refuses tauntgryns solely because of that exact reason

[tight pine]

I think the chat is gonna

[gloomy tartan]

The best defense is a good offense

[crystal osprey]

Buff crushers

[tropic grove]

just shield up with special move of the mace and shield of the ogryn, idk what the problem, u tank all of damage idk

[gloomy tartan]

She Melk my shi while I dark her tide

[tropic grove]

just be careful of trappers, or hounds

[jaunty path]

You're not tanking 10 crushers and 5 flamers bro

[gloomy tartan]

Kasrkin double tap that krak

[tropic grove]

or muties

[jaunty path]

You are dying at the start of the mission

[blazing ibex]

Do you know what stamina is?

[gloomy tartan]

On Cadia

[jaunty path]

That is just the truth

it's not auric.

[tropic grove]

i literally did in some matches idk what u talking about

[crystal osprey]

Does the shield not negate all damage

[blazing ibex]

You can't just take that much heat like that without needing to reposition

[crystal osprey]

Just tiger drop tbh

tiger drop negates all damage

[tropic grove]

special move doesn't require stamina

[blazing ibex]

The special move isn't getting you out of a sea of rotten crushers

[stuck crescent]

Yellow pasta

Yellow spaghetti

[delicate vapor]

[graceful hamlet]

Break the pasta in half

[stuck crescent]

🟡

[delicate vapor]

noob

[jaunty path]

Ok Im assuming it takes no stamina and negates all damage

so

[stuck crescent]

🍝

[jaunty path]

you essentially want to be a rock

doing nothing

lmao

[true minnow]

Why do people seem to just hang back on havoc

[tropic grove]

thats why u have teammates taking out the crushers

[true minnow]

While everyone is ahead

[dire kayak]

i love how with aura abilities its just like

[stuck crescent]

Because

[blazing ibex]

If you do this, you're out of my 40

[jaunty path]

Spawns overwhelm real fast

[crystal osprey]

Isn’t it good with taunt to take the heat

[graceful hamlet]

They get distracted fighting things and tunnel vision

[blazing ibex]

I will not have someone just standing doing nothing.

[jaunty path]

You have a class doing nothing.

[blazing ibex]

Because that's causing a damage deficit

[tropic grove]

sah let me protect u sah

[crystal osprey]

but my w debuff

[jaunty path]

When that taunt runs out all 50 crushers on him will redirect aggro

[jaunty path]

no

barrel.

die

[blazing ibex]

Standing like a rock doing nothing isn't protecting anyone

That's the issue.

[tropic grove]

wdym blocking is nothing

[dire kayak]

chorus: uses the emperor's light to push back the heretics
aquila: commands speeches of the judge of terra to improve morale
taunt: just fucking insults them

[graceful hamlet]

Reject Tauntgryn, embrace Gunlugger

[jaunty path]

Doing zero damage.

[graceful hamlet]

Big ole twink

[jaunty path]

Damage is, very important in havoc

[crystal osprey]

bro is gonna finish a h40 with 20k damage inflicted

[delicate vapor]

slapping people around as oggy

[blazing ibex]

Like I'd do that as like

A personal challenge for fun with people that are in on it

[tropic grove]

yeah but all enemies focused on u, not ur teammates

[blazing ibex]

And when the taunt runs out

[tight pine]

8 Orks in a trench coat when?

[jaunty path]

They are running

ON US

lmfao

[dire kayak]

literally with rot armour if you dont do enough damage in time you can get overwhelmed easily

[blazing ibex]

What happens then

[jaunty path]

You could at very least spam heavy attack lmao

[tropic grove]

then teammates should kill faster idk, doesn't hive scum class have a rocket launcher that does lot of damage?

[jaunty path]

Oh my god 💀

[blazing ibex]

Bait.

[delicate vapor]

💀

[fallen tree]

was it not obvious

[graceful hamlet]

Congrats, you killed one pack of crushers, you’ll encounter at least 10 more before the halfway point

[fallen tree]

ofc its bait

[jaunty path]

Darktide players when they need to play the game

[jaunty path]

uh no people are genuinely this dum

i wish it were

[tropic grove]

don't know about u all but this worked for me all the time

[tight pine]

Rolling steel good soundtrack

[fallen tree]

eh, i saw the new leaf, its bait

[graceful hamlet]

Just balance the game around Malice /s

[jaunty path]

NUKES YOU

THERE IS NO /S

THERE ARE GIFTS IN YOUR MAILBOX

OPEN IT IMMEDIATELY!

[graceful hamlet]

[true minnow]

Are psykers the easiest class to rip 40s?

[tropic grove]

wdym the game has a mailbox

[gloomy tartan]

More guns

Pls

I want heavy machine gun

[jaunty path]

Yea I think

Idk

[gloomy tartan]

Heavy machine gun With ammo box on my back

[tight pine]

Who knows?

[graceful hamlet]

Infinite stagger flamethrower goes brrrrrt

[tropic grove]

don't we have that already?

[gloomy tartan]

Las hotshot or whatever the fuck it’s called

[jaunty path]

poopshot

[gloomy tartan]

No fuck you it’s in veterans art

They fucking gun cucked us

They show us this cool gun and we can’t use it

[tropic grove]

oh so u mean a veteran class machine gun

[gloomy tartan]

It’s bullshit

[tight pine]

Hmm, grav weapon when?

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah they show the vet using it

Left tree

[tropic grove]

[tight pine]

[delicate vapor]

need that vet lmg so i can change my vet into rambo

[thick coyote]

Heavy Stubbers 2027

[tight pine]

Light stubber when?

[thick coyote]

That's just braced Auto

[tight pine]

Or is it?

[tropic grove]

6 7

[dire kayak]

i love watching vita carnis but i hate watching species anomaly report

fucking horrifying

[tight pine]

Isn’t that the thing where a meat tower exists?

[dire kayak]

the monoliths?

[tropic grove]

i need more boolets trrrrr

[tight pine]

Ye

[tired steeple]

I found vita Carnis pretty boring

[tropic grove]

lets go to the gym buddy lets go to the gym buddy lets go to the gym buddy

[dire kayak]

i liked it

hate species anomaly report though

[tropic grove]

thanks for the protein sir

[tired steeple]

I liked the screaming episode

Yeah that one

[tropic grove]

gwak gwak gwak gwak

[tired steeple]

That’s my favourite episode

[dire kayak]

[tight pine]

Powder that makes you say “let’s go to the gym buddy”

[tired steeple]

But idk none of it was very good

[tropic grove]

trrrrrrrrrrr trrrrrrrr i need more boolets trrrrrr

[tired steeple]

It felt pretty generic

[tight pine]

We need more warhammer horror stuff ngl

[drowsy axle]

just heard a convo in game about an ogryn getting airsick

didn't know i didn't wanna think about ogryn chunks

[tired steeple]

The original space hulk is pretty close to being a horror game

[dire kayak]

i mean it is one of the earlier analog horrors, everything was based off the 3 main ones in a way so its gonna feel generic nowadays

[jaunty path]

aye it might contain some ammunition

[tight pine]

Ye… but we can still dial that up to 12 right?

[dire kayak]

the 3 main ones being local 58, vita carnis and mandela catalogue

[tropic grove]

imagine ur a group of heretics on a fortress in the dark of the night when yall hear news than one custodes is coming to ur direction

[tired steeple]

Idk it didn’t feel very new even back then

[jaunty path]

no more like servitor horror

[delicate vapor]

id be more scared of a Smyker than anything

[tight pine]

Cooked squared

[tropic grove]

or daemonculaba idk thats pretty disturbing

[tight pine]

Just remembered the lore gap called the ghoul stars existing

[true minnow]

I rarely see Ogryn doing havoc stuff

[tight pine]

Ogryn too for those things

[little marten]

Psyker inferno staff kinda reks in havoc

[true minnow]

Yeah Psyker is busted

[thick coyote]

Hi V sauce Michael here

[true minnow]

Which is a shame

[delicate vapor]

protein tubes with that white sauce

[true minnow]

Dicks?

[delicate vapor]

S

[jaunty path]

thought that said pubes

[delicate vapor]

[true minnow]

Now that I have every class at 30 I can learn what the stats on weapons mean

How does one determine they have a god roll or close enough

[delicate vapor]

youll hear a cha ching

[drowsy axle]

that just nobody at all wants to touch

[tight pine]

WHERE IS OMNIMAN! WHERE IS HE! AAAAAÆÅAAÂ

[blazing ibex]

I've seen a lot of power maul tauntgryns and pickaxe rush ogryns recently

[true minnow]

Damn taunt without shield sounds wild

[visual vortex]

Only two melee weapons minus shield that is actually fun

Shield isnt fun

[blazing ibex]

Well when you can debuff everything to take double damage

It's quite powerful.

[visual vortex]

You just taunt and sit in a corner

[true minnow]

Like should I assume that weapons from melk that are 500 power are as good as a weapon can get or how do you figure the best of the best when it comes to gear

[visual vortex]

Stats

Mobility if there should be 60%

[true minnow]

is 80% the max?

[visual vortex]

Always

[visual vortex]

Yeah

Though you can get very lucky like me

[true minnow]

So a god roll is something where every slot is 80% or can be maxed out at 80?

[visual vortex]

And have a combat shotgun with like 3 80%

[visual vortex]

Id presume so

[mystic fossil]

nah i have a ds at 81% dmg i literally can one shot everything

[true minnow]

Found a heavy stubber where everyhing is 79 or 80

Except stability

[visual vortex]

Shit like that makes me close my eyes and inhale in bliss

Hi jawa

[jaunty path]

god roll is when you have an ideal dump stat.

like 60 mob or 60 defense.

[drowsy lynx]

a perfect roll has 80% on 4 stats and 60% on the last stat, except a couple weapons that want a weird mix instead

[delicate vapor]

when does it get better

[jaunty path]

soon

[delicate vapor]

[true minnow]

Interesting, I found one that is close to that

[visual vortex]

When i get a weapon

I always look for the mobility stat

Defense

Kr stability

And spam buy like 50 of that weapon before sorting through it for one of those stats to be 60%

If not i sell it

[mystic fossil]

we need a heavy flamer

[visual vortex]

You wont believe it if i told you but

[true minnow]

But I aint spending marks on a weapon that isn't PERFECT

So I ain't buying it

[jaunty path]

its not always the case only on a few particular weapons

[visual vortex]

The zealot miniature has a heavy flamer

[jaunty path]

on bolter you dump collateral

[visual vortex]

ALWAYS dump stability

[visual vortex]

Aiming is for chumps

[jaunty path]

on crusher you actually dump power attack

[visual vortex]

Never aim

[jaunty path]

Because the power attack doesn't do extra damage

[delicate vapor]

😱

[jaunty path]

Crusher is very worth it for that AOE tho

[visual vortex]

No no

No stability

[jaunty path]

and just the weapon over all

[visual vortex]

If i shoot my gun when braced or aiming down sights

And i can actually see?

Uck

🤮

I need it to look like i am as shaky as someone with Parkinson's

[jaunty path]

what do you think a red weapon rank should be

[delicate vapor]

just turn your gun into a blunt melee

[visual vortex]

Grenadier gauntlet

[jaunty path]

like what special thing should it have

[visual vortex]

Idk never had a red weapon

Uhhh

Extra blessing ig?

Extra blessing extra perk

[jaunty path]

mmmm

it should be a cool third thing..

[true minnow]

Speaking of grenades, is the Rumbler just kind of shit

[visual vortex]

Im good at making stupid ideas about weapons

[true minnow]

What am I missing here

[visual vortex]

Yeah

[visual vortex]

It's mediocre

In my opinion

[jaunty path]

i prefer kickback

[visual vortex]

I never liked it

[tight pine]

Saturnine dreadnoughts

[drowsy lynx]

It's incredibly good in the right hands

[blazing ibex]

Rumbler is a particular case

[true minnow]

At what

[visual vortex]

Just use the grenadier gauntlet

It's cooler

[mystic fossil]

its my goat

[true minnow]

Or is it better at any other gun at anything in particular?

[blazing ibex]

Where without the appropriate setups, it's okay

And with

It's just

[drowsy lynx]

staggers and does high damage to bosses and heavy armor, explosion is big enough to stagger and kill small enemies

[true minnow]

And if you say range I will throw a rock at you

[blazing ibex]

Actually gamebreakingly powerful

[drowsy lynx]

it just has poor ammo economy overall

[visual vortex]

As per usual with every ogryn weaponry

[mystic fossil]

back in 'nam we didn't have any of those fancy tools bub only me and me rumbler

[true minnow]

That's what my melee is for

[drowsy lynx]

definitely better for special sniping

[visual vortex]

Grenadier gauntlet can become a melee that is actually good

[ancient tinsel]

Speaking of Nam, Hell Let Loose Vietnam beta sign ups

[blazing ibex]

Not to the extent of what rumbler is capable of

[true minnow]

Grenade gauntlet seems to have a cap on how far the grenade can actually travel

[visual vortex]

At least i enjoy it more than most weapons

[fiery wave]

What are you running on it???

[mystic fossil]

rumbler with the sticky can one hit reapers and bulwarks

[drowsy lynx]

both can be good at both

yeah I only run rumbler with the sticky

[visual vortex]

The adhesive?

[blazing ibex]

Yeah

Adhesive nades are extremely good

[visual vortex]

I just spam my grenadier blasts at it and the shield falls

[jaunty path]

dont see why you wouldnt

[visual vortex]

Grenadier gauntlet is better if you want more ammo

[blazing ibex]

Here's the real reason why rumbler is so strong

[fiery wave]

It's like krak at that point.

[visual vortex]

The one perk that lets you fire three sometimes?

[blazing ibex]

Its the same reason the flamers are

Bypassing cleave

[delicate vapor]

[true minnow]

Does adhesive work on everything or just the biggest stuff

[visual vortex]

Playing with the up to three perk just turns you into a mortar

[mystic fossil]

only ogryns

very useful tho

[delicate vapor]

oh right need to max out my flamer for zeal

[blazing ibex]

You don't have to worry about a crusher cucking your damage output. Or a wall of them

[visual vortex]

My favorite thing about the rumbler is that it actually does damage

[drowsy lynx]

It works on ogryns and bosses

[blazing ibex]

The explosion will just bypass and damage everything around them

[visual vortex]

It's pretty cool to have the biggest class with the biggest weapons do actual noticeable damage

[mystic fossil]

when the grenadiers event was running it was rlly good cuz you could one shot reapers

[true minnow]

I feel like my shield bash does something similar

[visual vortex]

Oh

Slab shield

I see

Yeah that's fine

[drowsy lynx]

she slab on my shield

[visual vortex]

Till i blastoom my gauntlet

[mystic fossil]

i have no respect for slab shield users

[true minnow]

Sounds like jealousy

[visual vortex]

Every slab shield user i have ever met always taunts then sits in the corner

[mystic fossil]

it's weird tho it's a unknown hatred, i don't know where it stems from

[jaunty path]

I should pickaxe ogyrn.

[true minnow]

But the best thing about the slab shield is pushing for aggro and fucking shit up

[delicate vapor]

knife oggy

[visual vortex]

I like the bullyclub

[jaunty path]

Probably cuz it has a shit move set

[mystic fossil]

DS and smite? that's such a tuff build missus

[visual vortex]

Even though it's not remarkable i just lime it

[true minnow]

I find pickaxe bored

[jaunty path]

ur not safe

[visual vortex]

It's a metal pipe bent by the ogryn as a crude weapon

[tight dagger]

How would someone show lvl.40 while on the Mourningstar?

[true minnow]

It feels really good to hook them in and then pick their brains, but the rest of the time its sleepy

[delicate vapor]

havoc level

[visual vortex]

Pick up the bullyclub with haymaker

[true minnow]

The havoc forged title

[jaunty path]

dats resourceful

[visual vortex]

Pick up ogryn bullcharge skill

[mystic fossil]

no? my build just has 10 more points

[visual vortex]

Aggro daemonhost

Wait for it to teleport to you

Bullcharge

Spam slap

[tight dagger]

Understandable thank you

[delicate vapor]

fair

[fiery wave]

Beat h40 on current season. Resets every season.

[visual vortex]

Watch the fucker be cornered like a prisoner in the shower

Keep spamming

Daemon dies

[true minnow]

Is there an achievement for slapping a deamon to death?

[visual vortex]

No

But it feels good

And they fly around like a rubberhouse animation

[mystic fossil]

ogryn players try to larp as the actually useful arbites class

[visual vortex]

Or the hive scum

[mystic fossil]

that's psyker players

[visual vortex]

Ogyn players try to be useful at literally anything the other classes can do but better

[delicate vapor]

Doing my best

[visual vortex]

The best part about ogryn is that it gives you an excellent opportunity to pick a different class

[dire kayak]

i have a lot more fun on ogryn than i do on scum

that's all ill say

[fiery wave]

Hacking minigames without cheat mods.

[visual vortex]

Why would an ogryn player ever need that mod

They never get knocked when they have it out

[fiery wave]

Thus, the thing they are good at.

[visual vortex]

Yeah but at that point

Veteran shout and suppression

Grenades

Kill the enemies

Stealth

Rocket launcher

Dog grenade

Shock mine

Have a competent team

[mystic fossil]

the only fun builds i find for ogryn is mortis frag bomb spam or just dakka everywhere

[mystic fossil]

what is this game mechanic??

never seen it before

[delicate vapor]

never heard of it

[visual vortex]

The one you get when i play on your team

It's exclusive to me only btw

[delicate vapor]

competent team in darktide? never heard of it

[blazing ibex]

I'm competent.

[neon agate]

Taunt Ogryn

[visual vortex]

Grenade

[fringe turtle]

Anyone by chance know the mod that lets you see all the ammo grenades or stims on map even when not in view

[neon agate]

Taunt Ogryn players are like super man

[mystic fossil]

guys we should all build the different classes around a vietnam war larp team

[delicate vapor]

tried loading in as oggy

game crashes

[visual vortex]

That's the catachan

[delicate vapor]

[visual vortex]

The catachan are based off of action movie american soldiers during vietnam

[mystic fossil]

ik but like we got so many classes we can larp as nam

[visual vortex]

And the cadians are based off of american military

[mystic fossil]

like every class got smth

[visual vortex]

Hivescum cant cosplay because they at most have dirty needles

[fiery wave]

You get 3 arbies with dogs. The dogs are competent.

[visual vortex]

Another main reason i dont play scum is because i dont like reused needles

[mystic fossil]

what if the players go down? then no dogs

[visual vortex]

You're playing arbites

[true minnow]

Do folks enjoy burst limit ogryn or is that a who cares type build

[visual vortex]

You CANT go down unless you try to

[delicate vapor]

it dont go down

[fiery wave]

Your own dog then.

[mystic fossil]

you underestimate my teammates

[visual vortex]

Your skill should not be collective from your teammates

[sleek harness]

Overestimate

[visual vortex]

You either can sustain yourself or you sink like a chimp to water

[true minnow]

Arbites are supposed to pick others up and gloat they spent money on a p2w class

[visual vortex]

Arbites are xbox players because they cant play a class that doesnt have 5 quinfucktillion toughness

[mystic fossil]

skill? ik how to hold m2 then m1, for flamestaff and smite

[oak valley]

HERE I AM!...

Hit me.

[true minnow]

I am annoyed the rumbler sticky grenades don't just stick to any special when maxed out so you can fuck up gunners or snipers

[visual vortex]

If you aim

It makes a nice sound when hitting them

Stuns them

Flies up

[mystic fossil]

how would the tracking work if it went for every special and sniper??

[visual vortex]

And explodes at their head

Killing them

[mystic fossil]

that's way too much

[visual vortex]

It's pretty cool

[fiery wave]

@final shore Someone's insulting you.

[true minnow]

wot

[neon agate]

THERE'S A STAR MAN-

[visual vortex]

Ngl ive probably insulted the wntire darktide xbox community with that statement

[mystic fossil]

if the sticky nade tracked every ogryn, monstrosity, gunner, and sniper it would not be able to figure out what to hit

[visual vortex]

It would levitate mid air before exploding

[fiery wave]

Considering he plays H40 and did TS legit, yep.

[visual vortex]

TS?

[fiery wave]

True survivor.

[mystic fossil]

true solo h40?

[delicate vapor]

ts = this

[true minnow]

Is it a homing grenade? I figured just stick to something if you hit it directly

[visual vortex]

Ts=this shit

[mystic fossil]

it has a little bit of tracking, not as noticable as vet krak nade

it wont go thru shield of bulwark tho

[true minnow]

Then just nix the tracking

[dire kayak]

h80 would be

[drowsy axle]

i find the ogryn slab build fun for tanking, your damage isn't the best but taking the heat off of allies is always fun

[mystic fossil]

i hate how much havoc caps your hp and toughness

[true minnow]

Bleed stacks up pretty well with how many things you hit at once

[visual vortex]

See i dont need to worry about shit game mechanics because i just dont engage with it

[true minnow]

And shield pushing for aggro lets you just control everything

[visual vortex]

Wanna know what controls better?

Power maul

[thick fog]

"It no much but it good work sah!"

[mystic fossil]

this is why WE only play mortis and complain when we don't get good indulgences from sefoni

[true minnow]

Christ on his throne I have 8k diamantine while people are out here bragging about having millions

[thick fog]

You know what controls better? You

[visual vortex]

I have 40

[thick fog]

You are the controller

[visual vortex]

You're right

I am tje best player

[mystic fossil]

20k im so rich

[visual vortex]

I control the game too

I control darktide

[mystic fossil]

havoc makes you rich

[mystic fossil]

someone pissed off the director today

[visual vortex]

Im the director

There's a secret ending in darktide that isnt implemented yet where it's the SH2 dog ending but with me

[thick coyote]

For starters that's a bad build
But then no one really cares as long as you're shooting what matters

[mystic fossil]

as long as you're not dying and helping just the tiniest amount i'm cool

[left night]

The less you die the better

[true minnow]

If you cause a net loss in damage ur outta here

[fiery wave]

You mean, H40.

[true minnow]

I suppose ogrn being the huge melee tanks might not see the biggest boost from the gunner side of their tree

Lucky streak seems like a good node though

[twilit python]

boy the way havoc works is pretty annoying

[visual vortex]

Bold of you to assume anyone actually uses a gunlugger build even after rhe buff

[thick coyote]

Which is crazy btw

Because there's a whole subclass of gun ogryn

[left night]

I've been so busy rebuilding characters

[twilit python]

the whole deployment system is like designed to make you pissed off at other players lol

[fiery wave]

For penances, yes.

[true minnow]

They should have given ogryn a massive gun with normal people sized bullets, just holding thousands

[twilit python]

twice in a row i've gone into matches and absolutely killed it and everyone else just died around me and i still lose deployments for it >:\

[visual vortex]

I forgot ogryn had oenances around that side

I forgot that gunlugger was even a subclass too ngl

[twilit python]

especially funny because one of the guys in the last party i was in denied my join request earlier, presumably because he judged my lower havoc number as insufficient

[fiery wave]

That's demotion system basically. Punishes for losses if you can't solo.

[twilit python]

proceeds to die 4 havoc levels lower in a different party while i have to pick him up a bunch

[thick coyote]

That's literally the achlys twin linked peashooter btw

Sub brauto performance

Btw

[left night]

There's one specific penance for Psyker that I'm just not gonna do tbh Damnation on my own no thanks 😭

[thick coyote]

[visual vortex]

Which

[thick coyote]

So basically our ogryn

You either go melee

With 400% melee damage

[true minnow]

How do you even do something on your own when you can't run solo

[fiery wave]

That bad? Lmao.

[true minnow]

Or did I miss something

[thick coyote]

Or you trade all of that for a sub brauto performance

[thick coyote]

Yeah

[twilit python]

it's so weird they're so nervous about gun ogryn being good

[thick coyote]

94 flak body damage
Then Brauto 4 deals 100 flak body damage

[twilit python]

that they can't give him actual meaningful buffs

[thick coyote]

Literally outdpsed by a brauto

[delicate vapor]

[thick coyote]

With similar performances to anything not armored

[fiery wave]

You start 4 man, everyone else dies, you solo.

[true minnow]

Inferno staff with flayer BR and the slash sword is gg

[vivid zinc]

I'm watching From for the 1st time. Me likey. Me likey a lot.

[left night]

Malleus Monstrorum

[true minnow]

is that how the penance works?

[visual vortex]

Oh yeah good luck lmao

[thick coyote]

And then some players will say gun ogryn is fine

[left night]

Fr fr 😭🙆‍♂️

[thick coyote]

Then they end up being PBB bots

Do you know which class has a Brauto

[visual vortex]

I got it

[thick coyote]

And a ranged ability that refunds all ammo?

Yeah not ogryn

[visual vortex]

Ao glad they stopped with those two for zealot and psyker

[left night]

I just have bad timing

[visual vortex]

No it just sucks as a penance

[fiery wave]

No. If you mean that one, find someone to help.

[compact fjord]

Hello fellow warhammers

[visual vortex]

Hi

[left night]

Hellos

[compact fjord]

Praise the emperor and such.

[fiery wave]

You want? Just Dark Communion. Poke DH, get lucky or mid event.

[left night]

Smart ngl

[fiery wave]

(Rumbler)gungryn is fine.

[fiery wave]

You want an oggy with you tbh.

[fiery wave]

If poking DH.

[thick coyote]

In game

[marsh iris]

goobs

[visual vortex]

Looks like ol john shedlesky got into the cough syrup

[true minnow]

Frag bomb seems so sick and ass to replace with bombs away

[fiery wave]

Problem is, even with the kill 85% of things, boombringer still kills all and deletes crusher walls.

[marsh iris]

yeaggg

[fiery wave]

While that beeg frag leaves the crusher/bulwark walls there.

And you get 3 shots of boombringer.

[visual vortex]

And it can travel farther

[true minnow]

Is boom bringer the p2w rocker launcher from the scum class

[trail bramble]

yurrrp

[fiery wave]

Yes.

[graceful hamlet]

set up to help teammates not get surrounded
they simply have to fight the horde coming from the other side
I still get surrounded because they didn’t fight the horde

[true minnow]

See I haven't bought scum or arbites yet, and now I feel like I won't just on principal

[blazing ibex]

Tbf

[fiery wave]

Funny enough, arby is most balanced class now.

[blazing ibex]

It ain't so pay to win when psyker is right there.

[visual vortex]

They both do ogryn but better

[marsh iris]

boombringer vibe
#zealot-class message

[blazing ibex]

And arby is actually kinda balanced

Shocking to say.

[true minnow]

That is fair, more just like fatshit can go fuck itself

Isn't arby still almost impossible to die

[fiery wave]

Yeah, but the do the lowest avg damage.

[blazing ibex]

They struggle under pressure because their damage output is a tad on the lower side for priority enemies

[fiery wave]

They are also the class that cannot 1 shot crushers.

[blazing ibex]

But they have a ton of impact so they can buy a lot of time.

Or you can run dog

Which actually can do serious damage

[delicate vapor]

vhat class do i play..

[fiery wave]

Naw lul.

[marsh iris]

cat class

[blazing ibex]

But you have to learn how to micromanage then well

[blazing ibex]

Nah dog Arby can actually do some serious damage

[fiery wave]

Dog will do like 10% the avg vet, scum, psyker damage.

[jaunty path]

not impossible just hard to die in auric unless ur trying

it has a lot of toughness

[graceful hamlet]

EK Psyker but you use rmb instead of lmb

[marsh iris]

veternan

[jaunty path]

also uh

you need skill

[blazing ibex]

There's someone here that's gotten like

[jaunty path]

which a lot lack

[blazing ibex]

2.6m damage in h40 with dog

[fiery wave]

Ignore any week 1 dog damage.

[blazing ibex]

You just seriously need to know what you're doing.

[blazing ibex]

It's not week one

[dire kayak]

thinking about playing some oggy

[blazing ibex]

Dog is actually strong lol

[fiery wave]

Because even I got 1.5mil on week 1 and I have like 360 ping.

[jaunty path]

dog eats maulers

[graceful hamlet]

Ogryn does get twinks

[marsh iris]

didnt they nerf the dog mass bleed?

[fiery wave]

So I do no damage playing D&D in real time.

[drowsy axle]

yep! especially with FNP

[blazing ibex]

Yeah

[whole glade]

imma sail da seven seas befor AC4 remake comes out

[marsh iris]

but i still like doge

[blazing ibex]

Dog is still strong

[marsh iris]

wish its strong enough to carry me on its back

dogrider

[fiery wave]

Also, ignore rot+purple. Literally everyone does too much then.

5 mil is normal for that.

[blazing ibex]

But the point is making is that dog arby can actually keep up with damage output

[drowsy axle]

you go for slab build on ogryn and you are big, mean, and the beacon for enemies to attack instead of your teammates

[jaunty path]

again

[delicate vapor]

bubble daryl shotgun vet it is then

[jaunty path]

[blazing ibex]

Maybe not to the absolute heights that psyker and scum can but that's not saying much at all

[fiery wave]

If the team is shit, yeah. Cos dog doesn't do that much unless allowed to free farm.

[blazing ibex]

That's a hydrogen bomb vs nuclear warhead kinda situation.

It can't be this hard to believe dog arby actually has some damage going for them

[fiery wave]

You sure you aren't just including the damage the Arby did themselves?

[blazing ibex]

No because no Arby that doesn't have a dog has ever gotten the kinda numbers in my lobbies that ones with dogs do.

[fiery wave]

Yes, but I mean the damage the arby and dog does instead of JUST dog.

[dire kayak]

why is lone wolf so popular

i love my mastiff and my mastiff love me

[blazing ibex]

Well of course I'm including the actual Arby's damage

But my point is, dog is a pretty big contributor to damage if you actually know how to manage them.

[fiery wave]

So 2.3 mil arby, 150k-200k dog is normal if team sucks or rot+purple.

[obsidian wren]

Who here knows the stimm tree well

I got a question

[dire kayak]

i feel so dumb reading all this

[fiery wave]

And assuming the arby is the best player in team.

[marsh iris]

just poop it out

[fiery wave]

Inf blitz.

[delicate vapor]

gonna.. use shield ogry and contribute..

[fiery wave]

Atk spd and tdr is also nice.

[marsh iris]

give them the shield sandwich

[obsidian wren]

Trying to play off stagger damage stacking with crusher arbites when everyone else 1taps everything make me want to blow up

[dire kayak]

i like using ripper gun and pbb to rend hordes

[fiery wave]

Why do you think I say when the arby is the best player and the rest is not great is how you get such scores.

[modest flume]

Shield on HH is actually pretty decent

You'll be lacking in boss damage but you can juggle armor and smack everything else around tbh

[obsidian wren]

Thats my issue

[fiery wave]

Just boring, H1, cancel, H1, cancel.

[delicate vapor]

true

[modest flume]

Don't cancel

[obsidian wren]

Playing arbites sucks weenur when you cant even hit anything under a rager or a crusher

Unless you arent playing for stagger

[blazing ibex]

I mean if I'm seeing a dog arby actually keeping up with me

On melee scum

Of all things

[modest flume]

I don't cancel lul, using the full moveset

[blazing ibex]

I think there's something to be said there.

[dire kayak]

should i keep using eviscerator or use thammer

[modest flume]

Eviscerator

[fiery wave]

That you aren't as good as you think? Scum is the easiest or second easiest class to top scoreboards with.

[jaunty path]

Use tac axe on arbitrator

Now.

[modest flume]

tbh it's good for everyone

Even Vet

[marsh iris]

arbite stick good

[modest flume]

especially vet before arby released

[fiery wave]

Well, then it's just H1, H2, H1, H2.

[blazing ibex]

Of course they are.

Which is why it surprises me when I see it.

[marsh iris]

i really enjoy boltgun on arbite

[modest flume]

wRong

H1, PA

[jaunty path]

Poopgun

[blazing ibex]

They didn't beat me. But they were definitely pulling numbers that were nothing to scoff at either.

They beat the damn purge psyker 😭

[fiery wave]

PA is only if you get the brittle on push.

Which is very funni on like 16 stam.

[modest flume]

nah I use it even without

[modest flume]

Unless I'm dealing with rotten armor balls then H1 canceling would be better

[dire kayak]

all but systematic chaos is my favourite barotrauma song

[tight pine]

Hmm… a custodian and an imperial knight vs Khârn the betrayer comic could be cool

[fiery wave]

Still dunno why anyone thinks Rot is fun.

[tight pine]

They’re insane

[blazing ibex]

I like it until my frames die from the fucking gas

Because I've lost control of my life

[fiery wave]

Play blight then if you want fps death.

[blazing ibex]

I mean

I had to play both. And/or

Several times to get to 40 this season.

[fiery wave]

Just swing into a horde, stutters.

[blazing ibex]

I hate blight more than rot to be honest

[jaunty path]

Real

Atleast I can avoid corruption

[fiery wave]

I hate how they make me play at 0.7 to 32 fps.

[jaunty path]

Blight is just annoying area denial when there already so much area denial

Blight is the one time where only one class feels essential

[blazing ibex]

Until you have a crate scum

[jaunty path]

Yep

[blazing ibex]

I FUCKING HATE CRATE

[jaunty path]

And I hate playing crate scum

[fiery wave]

Or at least a beacon zealot.

[jaunty path]

They're probably not going to change it

[blazing ibex]

If I see my crate not drop when I insistently spam the ability key several times one more time. I'm gonna get a god damn aneurysm

[fiery wave]

Need to be more careful then but...

[jaunty path]

Do you have guaranteed special ability mod

[blazing ibex]

Yes I do.

The crate will play the animation but not drop

Its why i refuse to use it if it's rotten blight

[jaunty path]

Weird.

[tawdry edge]

skill issue

[blazing ibex]

When i play a really short cooldown crate, I notice it a lot more

And it feels really bad when it happens.

[simple cliff]

Serious question.

Between three and nine gorillas; how many could you beat in a fight?

[modest flume]

Beats me

[dire kayak]

-4

[tawdry edge]

Look one is enough to kill a man but I am going down trying

[marsh iris]

about 6 - 7

(also thanks harlz)

[simple cliff]