general-chat

[simple cliff]

Google the El Higuerón phallic carving. The big stone penor is a thing though it's greatly eroded now and looks like a poop log.

[tawdry edge]

anti psyker drugs made from dead psykers
its already a thing

[south valve]

:3

[gloomy tartan]

I like the art style in this

[south valve]

"They don't call you a deredere anymore, they just say you have ADHD"

[potent sage]

woah

[gloomy tartan]

You know what’s dumb as shit

[modest flume]

Why not join the 40k Illuminati

[gloomy tartan]

There used to be ADD and ADHD

Now it’s only ADHD

[modest flume]

They upgraded it

[simple cliff]

@hazy kestrel There is also the The Sayburç relief but that's more regular art with a focus on fertility.

[gloomy tartan]

They stopped using the term ADD

[south valve]

Bro, how can I do 1+1 anymore?... 😔

[gloomy tartan]

They just decided to say they all have adhd

[potent sage]

you can WALK in the mourningstar bro

[gloomy tartan]

But add and adhd have different traits lol

It’s stupid lol

Anyways I have adhd

Or add idk

[potent sage]

if you hold left-ctrl, you can WALK

[delicate walrus]

W

[gloomy tartan]

Because they both have the same name now

[hazy kestrel]

In no particular order:

The Death of Marat - Jacque Louis David

Guernica - Pablo Picasso

The Ambassadors - I want to say Albrecht Dürer? I might be wrong

The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse woodcut - Albrecht Dürer

Napoleon Crossing the Alps - Jacque Louis David

[south valve]

Medical authority isn't always infallible

[simple cliff]

ADD, ADHD, they're the same in the sense that the general public has no clue how they work. "Oh, you get distracted easily?"
Nah, I just flap my hands like a bird sometimes when I am bored but I am laser focused.

[south valve]

Oh I've seen Guernica

Very cool

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah

[balmy pond]

omg me too bestie

[hazy kestrel]

The history behind it is interesting

[simple cliff]

Right but if you're going to argue against medical authority people are going to expect you to have something besides a hunch/your word.

[hazy kestrel]

I like the different interpretations and hidden meanings it has

[delicate walrus]

Bro I’ve been trying to win a 40 on psyker it’s been so hard any tips?

[gloomy tartan]

Like unless your going DURRRRR people go oh you can’t have any learning disability your functional

[gloomy tartan]

If you did have problems you would be drooling

Stop pretending to have problems that’s not pc bro

[south valve]

The Napoleon one is pretty peak

[tight pine]

Uhh, cast lightning bolt a lot idk

[south valve]

Yeah, the bombing and all

I learned about it in college

[simple cliff]

If a doctor tells me eating the green paste will kill me. But a random dude says the green paste will make me live forever. I have to go with the doc because it's safer to assume he has more expertise in the area.

But if random dude shows me a shit ton of evidence and findings that can be proven and the doc only has his degree, then random man is onto something.

[gloomy tartan]

Psyker should learn to not get hit in the back of the head

[hazy kestrel]

Funnily enough, he actually crossed the Alps on a donkey.

[gloomy tartan]

Like bro

[simple cliff]

I cast fireball.

[gloomy tartan]

Watch your back psyker

[delicate walrus]

I tried using smite but damn some of the enemies just do not care

[gloomy tartan]

Allways getting back hit

[simple cliff]

I can't bend my head that far back. Can you watch it for me?

[hazy kestrel]

Oh no, a smyker

[gloomy tartan]

THEN STAY WITH ME

FUCKING KEEP UP

[modest flume]

Right click Smite, never left

[simple cliff]

[gloomy tartan]

WHY IS YHE PSYJER IN THE BACK

[modest flume]

Stronger, spreads faster

[gloomy tartan]

STAY IJ THE MIDDLE

[delicate walrus]

I do get bonked a lot lol

[gloomy tartan]

YOUR THE JILL SANDWICH

[south valve]

My main support for that claim is that the guys who decided how depression is prescribed decided that you should have 5/10 symptoms arbitrarily

[simple cliff]

BECAUSE LAST TIME YOU PUT HIM IN THE FRONT HE STARTED SPAZZING OUT AND BUNCH OF WEIRD THINGS POPPED OUTTA THING AIR THAT WE HAD TO KILL!

[gloomy tartan]

I don’t mean don’t be in the back

I mean BE ON OUR ASS

BE CLOSE

DONT BE 2 blocks AWAY

pretend your wearing one of those child leashes

[wild vector]

WHY IS THERE A GROUP COHERENCE WHEN MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE WALK OFF BY THEMSELVES

[balmy pond]

truely the big E gives his toughest of battles (looking behind you) to his silliest to goobers

[gloomy tartan]

Stay in range of coherency

I GIVE YOU MORE DAMAGE WHEN YOU DO

[simple cliff]

Yeah, docs often get shit wrong during their first time doing whatever. The dude was the inventor so he didn't really have anything to work off of. Still better then cocaine... Fuck, no it's not. I want speed for my anxiety.

[gloomy tartan]

FUCJ

[potent sage]

do you think we'll get psyker enemies to fight

[gloomy tartan]

ooo

That’s neat

Don’t they all just become daemonhosts host tho

[simple cliff]

A daemonhost is pretty close except they uhhhhh, they dun goofed.

[south valve]

I always thought that would be cool

[gloomy tartan]

I assume all psykers that go chaos become daemonhosts ?

[balmy pond]

woe upon ye mangus the red

[tight pine]

Psyker voice lines are neat

[gloomy tartan]

Idk how the rules work

[hazy kestrel]

Not necessarily

[simple cliff]

It is possible to avoid if you actually get trained, learn some shit, or get lucky af. A lot of chaos psychers are just people that were able to learn to control it before getting controlled.

If you woreship the dark gods they might tell you some tricks to not become a host or worse. Or they might just go 'lol, lmao' and shove the daemon in themselves.

Or you find someone else to teach you.

Or find you knowledge.

[gloomy tartan]

Should die instead of becoming a daemon host

Hot take

Give psykers pils

Those ones astronauts take so they don’t burnt to death

Cyanide ?

[simple cliff]

Warning: Finding of knowledge may result in: Voices in your head, knowing too much, wishing you could unlearn, nihilism, a constant sense of immense dread, and possibly a bolter shell to the back (or front) of the head.

[tight pine]

Tzeentch loves doing that, along with chaos spawn

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah give psykers cyanide pills

[balmy pond]

(theres a table top model of him so theres a non-zero chance some poor purely guard army went up against him and his goons)

[gloomy tartan]

Psykers should have cyanide pills they take before being corrupted

Provided by the state

[simple cliff]

A lot of psychers do have controls like that. In one of the books there is legit a line from a psycher about how he never uses the last of his ammo in his pistol because that's for him... or to prevent capture.

[potent sage]

so whats the whole deal with psykers anyways

[gloomy tartan]

They draw hentai

[south valve]

Jerry Seinfeld

[potent sage]

if theyre like super chaotic evil wizard ppl why do they live amongst the populace

[gloomy tartan]

They’re food for the emperors chair

[tight pine]

Wizards but they like to be exploded, or possessed… or exploded into a portal for daemons to go through, they can also cast aneurysm

[gloomy tartan]

If they’re good enough they don’t become food

They get used to work

Work for the emperor

But if they get corrupted bad

Kill

[potent sage]

i see

[simple cliff]

Ok, so you got the warp. THe warp is bad. The warp breaks reality. Pyschers have a connection to the warp, so they can bring said reality breaking to the actual universe in a hopefully controlled way. That's good.

The bad is that you're connected to the fucking warp. Which is a two way street and depending on how strong you are as a psycher you may get much more negatives from it then benefits.

[gloomy tartan]

So if your a weak psyker

Food

[balmy pond]

go go gadget head explode

[gloomy tartan]

If your a strong psyker

Not food

Maybie

There’s power levels to psykers

Not all are equal

[potent sage]

so what are the bad aspects of being connected to the warp

[gloomy tartan]

Most are low power and fed to the chair

[copper olive]

Fun fact,

The psyker in game would likely be way stronger if they were ANYWHERE but Tertium

[potent sage]

and whats stopping psykers from plummeting worlds into oblivion if they dont like what the imperium is doing to them

[copper olive]

Demons crawl out of your skull

[copper olive]

Demons crawl out of your skull

[balmy pond]

a) the warp
b) explosive collar

[modest flume]

^ You don't die btw

[gloomy tartan]

They have different power levels they aren’t all Superman

[modest flume]

Your soul just gets eaten/absorbed and tortured

[gloomy tartan]

And going super nuts with warp powers makes it easier to be corrupted

[modest flume]

You don't actually go

[balmy pond]

or nearby commisar with a bolter

[gloomy tartan]

You train to not get corrupted but still be able to use the warp

Basically

[potent sage]

so what about the low power ones

[gloomy tartan]

They get fed

To the chair

If your like shit tier

There’s tiers to psykers

[tight pine]

Uhh, they get either put onto the black ships. Or downright killed, by imperials or the warp

[gloomy tartan]

Based on power level

Yeah either fed to chair

Enslaved

Or killed

3 options for psykers

[balmy pond]

pro of pysker: power of the warp
cons of pysker : horrors of the warp

[potent sage]

isnt the emperor a psyker?

[south valve]

Anyone down to do a blood ritual with me?

[gloomy tartan]

If your stronger you might not get killed tho

[balmy pond]

the psyker pretty much

[patent grove]

Question: what makes it so you instantly die instead of being downed?

[copper olive]

The lore for my psyker character is that they essentially lived their whole life inside a hole in the ground outside a hive city, so they're an old ass man being worked to death by the inquisition

[copper olive]

Corruption

[gloomy tartan]

Basically don’t be born a psyker

If you are

[tight pine]

Yes, but 40,000+ years of experience makes him a real good psyker

[gloomy tartan]

Hope your not food tier power levels

[copper olive]

Or you fall off a cliff

[balmy pond]

purple bar goes all purple

[gloomy tartan]

Hope your enslavement power level

[patent grove]

Thanks

[modest flume]

Astropaths and navigators are also technically psykers but the Imperium labels them differently because if they got bullied, the Imperium would be fucked

[copper olive]

Being paraplegic makes him a bad psyker

[modest flume]

Overnight

[potent sage]

dont all humans have some sort of warp stuff in their soul tho

[gloomy tartan]

All the psykers in dark tide were good enough to be enslaved

[tired steeple]

Trying out this “roots” album

[modest flume]

That quickly

[tired steeple]

Shit’s awesome

[potent sage]

wouldnt that mean all humans are psykers

[copper olive]

Nope

[gloomy tartan]

Not all humans can control the warp like the psykers do

[copper olive]

Blanks exist

[tight pine]

But the astronomicon-thingy lighthouse

[potent sage]

i see

[tired steeple]

Psykers arw also constantly like slightly closer to the warp and shit

[gloomy tartan]

A connection and being able to influence and use the warp to alter real space

[modest flume]

The Warp is like the manifestation of emotion for most if not all sentient things, but especially humans

[gloomy tartan]

Two different thigns

[modest flume]

People who can tap into that are psykers

[gloomy tartan]

Just because were affected by the warp doesn’t mean we can effect it

[modest flume]

Not everyone can but everyone does have a signature

[potent sage]

are the daemons psykers?

[gloomy tartan]

Psykers can actually fuck with the warp yeah

[tired steeple]

Sort of

[potent sage]

is the warp like a physical plane that the daemons inhabit? is it a planet?

[gloomy tartan]

No daemons are from the warp

[modest flume]

People don't don't have that signature are blanks

[tired steeple]

Daemons can be sorcerers

[gloomy tartan]

It’s their plane of existence yeah

[modest flume]

The Warp is like a different dimension of eldritch horrors

[tired steeple]

Like a big Tzeentch bird I forget the name of can cast spells

[gloomy tartan]

It’s like if we teleported into hell to travel faster in space

[tired steeple]

But they aren’t all “psykers”

[patent grove]

Is there a warp in real life, a hidden dimension parallel to ours? That's what I (maybe) want to know

[potent sage]

but it exists in tangeant to realspace?

[modest flume]

Not everything is eldtrich and horrible, but mostly

[gloomy tartan]

We’re basically like night crawler from the x men

[tight pine]

No… but their scary and very evil most of the time

[balmy pond]

some blanks see the big E as a whithered old man with his month open in a scream

[potent sage]

because its THERE and its a big fuck off purple miasma

[gloomy tartan]

That is because of cadia

[modest flume]

It manifests itself in realspace

I.E. warpstorms

[tired steeple]

Yeah the warp breaks through to reality sometimes

[gloomy tartan]

There was a warp storm near cadia

It was there forever

[tired steeple]

Hey have you ever heard of a geller field?

[gloomy tartan]

It was the baddest one or something

Cadia blew up

[copper olive]

Tbh if Sly Marbo was on Cadia they would have won

[modest flume]

Rituals and Chaos hijinks can increase the influence of the Warp to tear open rifts, usually to summon daemons

[gloomy tartan]

That warp storm became the center of a mega warp storm

[balmy pond]

hope it works (:

[potent sage]

shipsmistress brahams mentions that i think

[gloomy tartan]

Which is growing

[green vector]

theres a warp storm in the shitter after ive had a curry

[gloomy tartan]

They fucked around and made the eye of the maw

[potent sage]

i thought abaddon made cadia blow up

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah

[tired steeple]

Yeah a geller field is put up by a dreaming psyker as like, a field of reality around the ship while it travels through the warp

[tight pine]

Nah if abadons therapist was at Cadia, Cadia would’ve won

[gloomy tartan]

They wanted to reach the warp storm thing

[tired steeple]

So that the warp doesn’t eat you

[balmy pond]

unless you *want * daemons onboard

[tired steeple]

Word bearers:

[potent sage]

i see

[simple cliff]

Benefits of being a psycher include:
-Yer a wizard harry.
-You get a cool job if you're good at it.
-You have a power ceiling that makes even astartes and daemons sweat if you're strong enough or can climb that high.
-Privacy, no one wants to be around you cause you creep them out.
-You might legit hear the voice of Big E.
-You might be able to prevent your soul from becoming daemon chow.
-You're probably consindered valuable enough to not be in unneeded risk.
-You might befriend someone really powerful, a lot of generals and shit like having a personal psycher to protect them from chaos shit.

Possible side effects include:
-If you don't get a cool job, youi're fucked.
-You creep everyone out.
-No freedom to do anything unless you somehow rise high up the ranks of the inquisition.
-Being breakfast for Big E.
-Being breakfast for a daemon.
-Randomly exploding.
-Finding out you're a psycher the 'hard way' by accidentally summoning demons or shit.
-Hearing voices in your head telling you to do horrible things.
-You will learn things you wish you could unlearn.
-Being shit that isn't there.
-Being a god damn light house to every warp creature so if there is a breach, they're going for you first.
-Just as you can reach into the warp... sometimes it can reach into you.
-People fight over you and might decide to just BLAM you instead of letting the other guy get you.
-Possibly being used in very fucked rituals such being killed horribly to cause a scream in the warp to blind navigators (yes, that happened once).
-The chances of any of the beenfits happening are much lower then the negatives. You'll probably explode or get fed to something before becoming strong.

Essay done.

[potent sage]

so why does the warp exist

[simple cliff]

It just do.

[potent sage]

oh wow

[tired steeple]

It always has in the setting

[green vector]

i aint readin allat

[tired steeple]

Primordial dimension of emotions

It’s just there

[tight pine]

Ah, the humble wall of words

[modest flume]

Cadia (and the Cadian Gate, which is all the planets around it) guarded the Eye of Terror because it had Necron pylons which directly interfere with the Warp, for better or worse (Affecting psykers, daemons, and even Saint Celestine), Abby blew up the planet by crashing a Blackstone Fortress into it

[tired steeple]

But emotions feed into it and shit

[potent sage]

so if i feel happy, the warp will grow stronger

[gloomy tartan]

Basically the warp storm that gave Cadians purple eyes from generations of low level warp was changed from cadia blowing up causing it to grow to the massive size it is today where the center of it is the original warp storm

[modest flume]

It's like the Big Boom, but it's its own plane of existence, literally

[balmy pond]

errr? it was always a thing , except all of the war and elf fuckery (literally) made it into the "fun" place today

[modest flume]

Your thoughts and emotions manifest in the Warp

[tired steeple]

Well since the 4 gods are the main big guys, being too happy for too long is gonna get slaanesh to say hi to you

[high briar]

the servers laggy af in EU today?

[modest flume]

War and turmoil make it turbulent

[simple cliff]

Why the fuck did we got the four dickhead gods. Why couldn't anyone manifest the god of booze or some shit.

[gloomy tartan]

And now the purple koolaid is consuming space

[gloomy tartan]

Booze would prob be slanesh

[potent sage]

I see

thats very neat i think

[gloomy tartan]

Slanesh is all excess

[potent sage]

i like the concept of the warp feeding of the turmoil and destruction of the galaxy

[gloomy tartan]

They have layers of all pleasures

[balmy pond]

yea this , if Gazlay at peace and happy , then so is warp
if galaxy is well war and suffering then so is the warp

[gloomy tartan]

Riches

Bitches

Adoration

[simple cliff]

Slannesh is excess. Getting blackout drunk would be Slannesh. I just want a god that gains strength from making good craft brews and drinking a reasonable amount!

[gloomy tartan]

Etc etc

[tired steeple]

Crack

LSD

Music as well that’s a popular one

[tight pine]

Over farming is one of them

[gloomy tartan]

Hey

Remember jar jar binks

[potent sage]

this is WARHAMMER BITCH!!!!!!!! WE FEELIN INESCAPABLE DREAD AND DISGUST THAT NOT EVEN SHITTY SYNTHETIC HALF-POISONED BOOZE CAN FIX!!!

[gloomy tartan]

Meesa Gona run

[potent sage]

TAKE YO SENSITIVE GIMMICK GOD ASS BACK TO DND!!!!

[gloomy tartan]

And run he did

[simple cliff]

THEM FANTASY BITCHES GET SIGMAR! CAN'T HAVE SHIT IN 40K!

[simple cliff]

EVEN THE FUCKING ELDAR GET THE DAMN CLOWN AND ARE TRYING TO MAKE ANOTHER ONE!

[copper olive]

God sigmar is so much cooler than big E

[balmy pond]

some elf or drawf mini- god ig maybe?

[simple cliff]

HUMANITY CAN'T HAVE SHIT IN 40K!

[gloomy tartan]

Fuck knife ears

💪🏼

[potent sage]

so is sigmar just 40k but fantasy

[tired steeple]

No

[tight pine]

He even had a big warhammer!

[copper olive]

Wrong order technically

[tired steeple]

I mean

[balmy pond]

eldar are just space elf

[tired steeple]

Soneone else can explain it

[potent sage]

so is 40k just sigmar but space?

[copper olive]

So warhammer fantasy came out

[tired steeple]

Explaining how we got from fantasy to AOS just pisses me off

[gloomy tartan]

Me and my homies say fuck clankers fuck knife ears fuck the red eyes blue bitches too

Humanity first

[copper olive]

Then 40k came out

[modest flume]

In the Warp are the four Chaos Gods, Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, and they are kind of like the representation of the 4 corners of life taken to the absolute extreme

Khorne is blood, war, slaughter, but can also be courage and resolve
Nurgle is death and decay, but can also be life and rebirth
Slaanesh is excess, but can also be enjoyment
Tzeentch is scheming and trickery, but can also represent power

These 4 Gods usually appeal as the latter and catch you with the former

[balmy pond]

plus a morbillion rats

[simple cliff]

INSTEAD WE GET BIG E WHO APPARENTLY CAN ONLY SAVE LIKE 1 OUT OF 1000 DUDES AND DOESN'T WANNA BE GOD AT ALL AND IS A HORRIBLE PARENT! Can't have shit in 40k.

[copper olive]

This is moreso fantasy than 40k

[tight pine]

Sigmar is what happened when a fantasy setting went kapoot, and one of the gods in said setting really didn’t like that

[copper olive]

But that's probably because fantasy is far more nuanced

[modest flume]

They don't control the Warp per se.. I think, but they are the 4 majority factions and they always fight each other

[copper olive]

[simple cliff]

Sigmar was around before the fantasy setting went kaboom. But he became became a lot more important in Age of Sigmar. SHocking.

[potent sage]

so are the chaos gods real physical beings

[modest flume]

They get together or form alliances when their shared hatred of something, usually the Emperor, is enough to get them to stop

[simple cliff]

Yes.

[modest flume]

Real yes, physical, no

[gloomy tartan]

Real in the warp yeah

[modest flume]

Well.. sort of

[balmy pond]

please GW when 40k has to end please add the skaven funnist shit ever

[simple cliff]

People have actually thown hands with the chaos gods though, It's gone HORRIBLY every single time, it has happened.

[gloomy tartan]

They can’t exist in real space

[modest flume]

They have physical avatars but they are real

[gloomy tartan]

They only use like avatars yeah

[potent sage]

i see

[simple cliff]

They can't exhist in real space but in theory you can walk up to one of them. In theory.*

[gloomy tartan]

The avatars are weaker than they really are

[simple cliff]

You could even fucking kick one's ass in theory.

[modest flume]

After all

There is only war

OH

[potent sage]

khorne manifesting himself as a basic white dude in the underhive and getting his shit kicked in by a drunkard manufactorum worker

[modest flume]

HOW COULD I FORGET GORK AND MORK

[tight pine]

Pretty sure a grey knight tried to kill slaneesh, made it through all the layers too! But then got corrupted

[balmy pond]

fabius bile going "nuh uh" to slaanesh

[potent sage]

who are those

[simple cliff]

One of the books mentioned that if it was possible to somehow fight through the warp you might be able to essentially kill a chaos god by bombing them via dropping a shit-ton of powerful blanks onto them.

[green vector]

ork gods

[modest flume]

The Ork Gods

[gloomy tartan]

I wish we could convince them all to become focused with infighting so they leave us alone

[copper olive]

The split aspects of a god named Gorkamorka

[potent sage]

are they evil warp beings too?

[gloomy tartan]

Oh wait they are allready all infighting

[modest flume]

uh.. technically no

[potent sage]

GORKAMORKA

[copper olive]

Evil is a weird term to use

[potent sage]

❤️

[tight pine]

Gork and Mork

[green vector]

one is cunningly brutal and the other is brutally cunning

[gloomy tartan]

The chaos gods view it all as a game

[potent sage]

what does that mean

[gloomy tartan]

They try to beat eachother at

[copper olive]

Together they're cunningly brutally brutally cunning

[potent sage]

so how does the emperor fit into this

[green vector]

one stabs u in back one bonks in face

[potent sage]

i see

[tight pine]

One sneaky but killy
One Killy but sneaky

[balmy pond]

theres theory the big E could / is gonna be the next chaos god , if its good or bad is another thing tho

[copper olive]

Also Gorkamorka is most likely stronger than the chaos gods

[gloomy tartan]

The emperor is cool as hell

[copper olive]

At least individually

[modest flume]

One will charge at you, yelling all the way, cave your skull in, and laugh while he's doing it

The other will tip toe up to you, then do all of that

They fight with each other all the time

[potent sage]

but why do the chaos gods want the emperor gone

[green vector]

they want everyone gone

apart from chaos

[copper olive]

They want everyone to SUFFER

[modest flume]

He is the "Anethema"

[copper olive]

Everyone being gone is antithetical to their plans

[simple cliff]

I am just saying. I think the human blank bomb idea has merit. If we can figure out how to teleport people to a chosen location to the warp and drop a few hundred Omega-minus and blacksouls on top of a chaos god. It might work.

[tired steeple]

the emperor is actually good at defending the imperium from them

[modest flume]

Emps thought he could change the fate of the galaxy

[gloomy tartan]

It’s like 4 people trying to beat the game against eachother and a NPC won’t stop messing with their game

[tight pine]

Emperah is maybe a god of order, but who knows

[tired steeple]

believing in the emperor actually goes a long way lol

[modest flume]

Chaos tried, and is trying their hardest make that not happen

[copper olive]

Not as good as gork and mork though

[gloomy tartan]

Jygalig?

[copper olive]

[tired steeple]

I'm a firm believer that the emperor is the chaos god of order

[jaunty path]

I am become death, destroyer of worlds

[gloomy tartan]

The god of order is jygalyg from elder scrolls

Dumb asses

[tired steeple]

someone here made a really bad argument that "actually it's just the belief in the imperium" yeah and who's the reason for that

[copper olive]

But there's already a chaos god of order who's vaguely canon to Warhammer fantasy

[balmy pond]

the big E was working on the webway project so humanity didnt have to use the warp , then Mangus happened

[simple cliff]

In case it wasn't obvious, the blank bomb idea would be nearly impossible to do and I was joking. Though it was legit brought up in a Dark Elder convo because Dark Elder tend to use blanks as anti-daemon devices when they capture them.

[dire kayak]

mass suicide tomorrow

[potent sage]

so whats stopping the imperium from dropping an antimatter bomb into the warp

[tired steeple]

what one

[gloomy tartan]

What

[copper olive]

The warp is like

[modest flume]

It's not a dimension that you can easily get into, let alone travel

[copper olive]

Really big

If wouldn't do much

[gloomy tartan]

The warp doesn’t follow our rules

[tight pine]

I don’t think any type of matter works right in the warp

[tired steeple]

cause it's not malal/malice

[modest flume]

It's like a sea that constantly changes current, it has no specific locations to go

[potent sage]

that make sense

[gloomy tartan]

The warp is a completely different realm

[modest flume]

You know how they say we have continental drift?

[balmy pond]

humanity also uses the warp for FTL travel

[potent sage]

yeah

[simple cliff]

The problem is, no one has more control over the warp then the chaos gods. So you can't just teleport several hundred super blanks on top of one. You might be able to enter the warp and try to fight your way towards one but GOOD FUCKING LUCK! If you can do that you might as well just invade the eye of terror at that point.

[modest flume]

In the Warp that happens ASAP

[gloomy tartan]

Entering the warp would probably drive you insane

[copper olive]

Also you can't really KILL chaos gods

[potent sage]

and how earth's continents slowly move both away and apart from each other

[copper olive]

They're primordial concepts

[modest flume]

There is no specific coordinates to go to for anything

[tired steeple]

the chaos gods have been damaged btw. Do with that what you will

[potent sage]

ooh shit

[copper olive]

You CAN beat them though

[potent sage]

i see

[modest flume]

Nothing is anchored in place

[simple cliff]

True. The Dark Eldar said it would basically be shoving them into a perma coma.

[green vector]

im gonna crack slaanesh ngl

[gloomy tartan]

We only enter the warp to basically travel faster through spaxe

[dire kayak]

me included

[tight pine]

Astropaths must be really good at their job then

[tired steeple]

nurgle has taken physical damage

[copper olive]

By locking them in a big box

[gloomy tartan]

We use the warp as our highways

Basically

[wet swift]

i have come to speak truth, stormcast eternals are way cooler than space marines

[gloomy tartan]

It’s dangerous but it’s fast

[modest flume]

They have to be, and that's why they're so valuable

[copper olive]

Who's to say nurgle won't just pop back into reality like a demon does

Daemon

Whatever

[potent sage]

so how do psykers (or regular people for that matter) turn to chaos? not what drives them, but how is it possible to connect to the warp?

[gloomy tartan]

We skip distance in real space by tapping into the warp

[gloomy tartan]

Influence

[potent sage]

because we KNOW what drives people to turn to chaos and insurrection... its desperation

[tired steeple]

wdym

[simple cliff]

The idea is that if you somehow got a bunch of Omega-minus level blanks and put on top of a chaos god, they'd lose the ability to 'feed' or do anything and after some time like that they'd basically go back to being in a coma.

[tired steeple]

do you mean like

how do they get gifts and shit

[potent sage]

i guess

[gloomy tartan]

The connection to the warp makes them crazy

[potent sage]

how do they sign themselves up

[balmy pond]

chat astral project the fucking 60 + horus heresy books into this persons brain

[tired steeple]

the chaos gods reward favour

[copper olive]

No the idea is to lock them in a big box

[wet swift]

https://tenor.com/view/victor-saltzpyre-gif-22117141

[sleek harness]

How they go into chaos by being a pysker

[copper olive]

That's literally what the high elves did to Slaanesh

[gloomy tartan]

If you devote yourself to a chaos god they like you more

[copper olive]

And it worked

[copper olive]

Ehhhh?

[simple cliff]

Can't. We only have two boxes. One is for Magnus and Corvus won't come out of the other one.

[tired steeple]

yeah for psykers it's the same, some of them just join any of the other 3

not khorne

[tight pine]

The voices in da head (daemons) tell you so

[tired steeple]

khorne hates sorcery and psykers

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah chaos gods usually don’t give a fuck about you

[modest flume]

The Imperium and daily life is not pleasant, and Chaos to (willingly or not) is an alternative or what they think is an out

[gloomy tartan]

The chaos gods view us as chess pieces

Ment to be used

Nothing more usually

[tired steeple]

they'll enjoy you like a small mouse or something

[balmy pond]

you can "gain" "gifts" if you desperate enough as well ... like the morbian 6th

[potent sage]

i am aware WHY people turn to chaos as an alternative to the systemic suffering that the imperium offers...

[tired steeple]

but they won't exactly think about you

[gloomy tartan]

They are more fickle gods than the god emperor

[modest flume]

Something like never having cotton blankets your whole life, and suddenly this random guy gives you a blanket to sleep with, and it leaves such an impression that you can't help but be attracted to them

[potent sage]

can you just talk with the gods?

[tight pine]

Unless your a primarch, but that doesn’t go far usually

[gloomy tartan]

You can try

[tired steeple]

some have succeeded

[simple cliff]

There are exceptions. Magic and psycher bullshit is still needed to function. He's ok with things like summoning daemons and what-not but the moment you use magic to fight instead of martial skill he gets mega pissed.

[dire kayak]

i feel like drinking excessively

[potent sage]

go "hey, this whole thing of being a fuedal slave isnt really doing it for me... can i have evil disease powers?"

[gloomy tartan]

It’s easier for the gods to reach you

[tight pine]

If you want your head and soul to explode painfully

[copper olive]

Unless it's HIS sorcery, because the chaos gods are all hypocrites

[potent sage]

i am getting SO many different answers 😭

[copper olive]

And then you lose all feelings

[gloomy tartan]

Think about how zolas brother wolfer was corrupted by the nurgle

[tired steeple]

alright

ant

it's complicated

genuinely

[copper olive]

Welcome to retcon workshop

[tired steeple]

you're going to get different answers because it's complicated

[gloomy tartan]

You can see how someone falls to corruption by wolfer

[jaunty path]

on what

[tired steeple]

so, there are situations where the chaos god finds YOU and not the other way around

like the death guard

[modest flume]

True

[gloomy tartan]

I mean nox prime

[tight pine]

It’s better that way ngl

[modest flume]

Manipulates a situation to make you pledge yourself

[gloomy tartan]

Wolfer and his men were manipulated yeah

[tired steeple]

a bunch of shit happening in an area can just get the attention if it caters to their main thing

[gloomy tartan]

Wolfer and his men turned traitor to save them from pain

They had their will worn down

[copper olive]

Hot take -> Chaos warriors / slaves to darkness are cooler than chaos marines

[gloomy tartan]

It was a slow death

[simple cliff]

The problem is. 99.99% of people that fall to chaos are not getting shit. They are going to become food for a daemon or something.
You have to be strong and lucky as fuck to 'make it' as a chaos woreshipper.

[balmy pond]

kinda goes bad , bloke called fabius bile "talked to" slaanesh , one of his hearts went in cardic arrest and minor organ failure

[gloomy tartan]

Notice how most heretics we kill are weak as shit

[tired steeple]

there's also, yeah, people do just go renegade. Either they go renegade because they heard about a chaos god being able to make things better, or they just went renegade for normal reasons and happened upon chaos corruption

and ended up corrupted

[modest flume]

It's also not always instant

[gloomy tartan]

We call those people cowards

[tired steeple]

yeah it can take a while

[modest flume]

Take the aforementioned blanket analogy

Such a small but big reprieve goes a long way

[simple cliff]

You have to be strong enough that when you die they actually say 'no, hands off his soul, I might want him again' OR become something like a Daemon Prince. If you manage to do enough damage as a Khorne woreshipper he shoves you into his nonstop battlefield but the other three I don't think care what happens to you if you're not useful to them.

[tight pine]

Kinda funny how we’re fighting nurgle forces which are supposed to be real tough too

[tired steeple]

tzeentch actively fucks you over as a "reward" lol

[modest flume]

But ultimately, you still keep your chains, the only thing that changes is who is holding them

[gloomy tartan]

My internal logic is the weakwr ones aren’t as buffer by nurgle as the more favored ones in higher difficulty’s

[tired steeple]

nurgle will come to places with lots of diseases and the sick will hear whispers and shit from beyond of a cure and they start accepting and suddenly they think puking out their nipples is awesome

[balmy pond]

we spoke of the necrons yet?

[simple cliff]

99.99% of chaos woreshippers, even the traitor space marines, end up as pawns and food for something in the warp. Because even if you become a god damn chaos lord... that's still far away from being a daemon prince.

[gloomy tartan]

Higher difficulty = enemies favored by nurgle more

[tight pine]

I see

[modest flume]

Hey the pain stopped!

[gloomy tartan]

That’s my internal logic

[modest flume]

nervous system turned off

[gloomy tartan]

Wouldn’t the chaos gods have a lot of cannon fodder?

[modest flume]

Sorry dulled

[tight pine]

They cool, they have anti warp stuff

[gloomy tartan]

Makes sense

[jaunty path]

I mean that is pretty awesome

[modest flume]

Because if it was off, then you can't be goaded into serving Nurgle

[balmy pond]

what if atoma prime was also a tomb world as well

[gloomy tartan]

Cadia is under rated you guys

[simple cliff]

Yes. The eye of terror is what you get when chaos can just fuck with reality freely. THankfully the rest of the galaxy it takes effort for them to spam daemons and whatnot so they require mortal helpers.

[tired steeple]

also tbf like if your organs started reshaping themselves to heal a shhotgun blast to the stomach that's a pretty awesome thing to want

[modest flume]

Cultists and minor daemons?

[potent sage]

so

the warp is where all chaos presides, it is the metaphysical manifestation of chaos within a seperate plane of existance
the four gods of war, pleasure, power, and disease (by extension of the warp) feed off of the total destruction and psychological malaise of all corners of the galaxy
psykers are individuals with varying powers of control over the warp
uhhh they hate everything
and they want everything to be subsumed in the warp
but they DONT control the warp

[modest flume]

oooooohhhh no no no they don't control the Warp

They ask it

[simple cliff]

They don't control the warp but they can influence more then anyone else.

[modest flume]

Sometimes it doesn't respond nicely

[tired steeple]

the chaos gods are also the warp and the warp is also chaos gods. The warp is you, and you are the warp. And the warp is not you, and you are not the warp

[gloomy tartan]

Cadia never stopped fighting

[tired steeple]

the warp is immortal, but mortal

[tight pine]

Sorta yes

[tired steeple]

the warp is in the past, but has happened in the future

[potent sage]

STOP ITTTTTTTTTTT

[tired steeple]

the warp is now and the warp is never

[gloomy tartan]

Las gun fire was seen on cadia even when the planet was exploding

[potent sage]

😡

[tired steeple]

this isn't even like a reach

the warp has no "rules"

[modest flume]

Ironically enough that's like the best way to explain the Warp

[gloomy tartan]

REMEMBER REACH

REMEMBER CADIA

[potent sage]

are there any books on the warp that i can read

[tired steeple]

uhhh

[modest flume]

It really is just a.. thing

[potent sage]

i like the warp i think its cool

[tight pine]

That’s why we don’t talk about the warp that much, makes brain hurt

[jaunty path]

The warp is a hell ocean but the 4 chaos gods are just the 4 biggest players

[modest flume]

It's own thing

[tired steeple]

good question

[gloomy tartan]

the warp does not follow any of our reality’s rules at ALL bro

NONE OF THEM

do you get it?

[tired steeple]

but it also does

all of them

at once

and then none of them

[gloomy tartan]

EXACTLY

[potent sage]

so is the warp itself ALIVE or is it just a driving force

[modest flume]

Did we explain FTL?

[tired steeple]

the warp could be considered alive

[gloomy tartan]

The warp is never not changing

[potent sage]

like is the warp a sentinent entity?

[tired steeple]

hm

yeah

[gloomy tartan]

Kind of?

[tired steeple]

I actually think so

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah

Like the chaos gods spawned from it

Right ?

[tight pine]

Uhh… what?

[tired steeple]

maybe not... sentient as we know it but the warp is in some ways like, alive

[gloomy tartan]

Out of the ether of the warp they were created and grew in power to become the main influences ?

[modest flume]

The same way the ocean is full of plankton

Or the same way there are probably more bugs in the dirt than there is actual dirt

[tired steeple]

oh yeah and also the trillions of souls that are just there

[simple cliff]

It's also weird because depending on which books you read and from which era how much influence the emperor has in the warp changes a lot. In the older lore he was much more 'god-like' and could do more. Now, you're lucky if you so much as get a message with things like the saints and legion of the damned being extremely rare. Also the emperor does protect... but only like... 1 out of 1000 people but you better hope you're either lucky or did something important.

[tight pine]

Dammit prankton stole the crabby patties again

[potent sage]

so if the emperor is like THE psyker

[balmy pond]

one of the best voice lines in darktide by the ogryn "Find new planet, name it cadia"

[modest flume]

A twisted harmony of life(souls being tortured)

[potent sage]

can he actually grant miracles and hear prayers?

[tired steeple]

yeah

he does it often

[gloomy tartan]

I like to think if your important in the big picture then Big E Will make the effort to answer your prayers

[tired steeple]

take like, confessors or imagifiers

[modest flume]

Faith is genuinely real in 40k

[tight pine]

Sorta, just a really really really really really really really big psyker

[modest flume]

So is the power of will

[gloomy tartan]

Big e has to look at the big picture okay he can’t save EVERYONE

[tired steeple]

they perform actual miracles thanks to their belief in the emperor

[gloomy tartan]

We did it’s called New Cadia

We have several other planets colonized as well that are also called NEW CADIA but in different languages

[balmy pond]

oh neat

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah we’re colonizing shit and naming it new Cadia

But we have a main NEW CADIA

[tired steeple]

oh yeah fun fact

[gloomy tartan]

Liek the main one

[simple cliff]

Sort of? He's still a psycher but he is on a level that he cause shit to happen. He can't do it like the chaos gods can but he can do a few things. Like Gothic Armada 2, Admiral Spire gets freed from the warp at exactly the moment he is needed. It wouldn't surprise me if that was Big E pulling some shenigans.

[tired steeple]

demons are like, omniconscious

[tight pine]

Like Portland being 3-7 places at once

[potent sage]

due to some administrative failure we now have ten new colonial holdings that are named Cadia

[tawdry edge]

Hope it gets exploded like the original one.

[potent sage]

whats that mean

[tired steeple]

killing a daemon in one place may feel like it died in another

or well, banishing, you can't really kill daemons except with rare exceptions

[gloomy tartan]

We’re renaming everything to New Cadia

[tawdry edge]

They're aware of past, present and future

All at once

[gloomy tartan]

When we kill daemon host daemons they return to the warp

[tired steeple]

your first encounter with a daemon is like, it's 400th encounter with you

[gloomy tartan]

Daemons can’t exist in real space for long only temporarily

[tight pine]

Holy Terra ❌
New Cadia the 75th ✅

[gloomy tartan]

That’s why they use stuff like hosts

[potent sage]

so can daemons never truly die

can they come back after they are banished?

[gloomy tartan]

They return to the warp

[jaunty path]

yea

[simple cliff]

This is also why're really fucking scared of certain blanks. Because it might legit be something they've never seen before.

[tawdry edge]

Yes

[tired steeple]

they can but you need like special stuff

[modest flume]

No, with very few exceptions, and yes

[tired steeple]

but usually they go to the warp

and come back

[tired steeple]

yeah that

[potent sage]

and cant the chaos gods create more of them and overrun the imperium

[tired steeple]

I think blanks can actually kill them

[gloomy tartan]

Because demons need a connection to exist in real space

[simple cliff]

Yes. But there are ways to make them dead-dead but you need to have some powerful shit or be a strong psycher to do it. Or have a strong blank nearby.

[gloomy tartan]

They normally can’t exist in real space at all

[tight pine]

Yeah, but they be killed by ancient artifacts and gods (like da emperah)

[jaunty path]

they do it runs deep in the imperium already

[gloomy tartan]

They need host etc to exist in real space temporarily

[jaunty path]

the imperium feeds chaos

[gloomy tartan]

That’s why they don’t just swarm us

[modest flume]

They say for every planet, there is a Chaos cult already on it, even including Terra

[tired steeple]

there's also shit like how miracles from the emperor technically also come from the warp

so they're technically using the warp to fight off the warp

[modest flume]

It's only a matter of how big it is, and much of an issue it becomes

[tired steeple]

so that's why they can't just daemon spam and win

[potent sage]

well i know that but since the imperium is SUPPOSEDLY on the brink of collapse, wouldnt that mean an increase of daemonic influence?

[gloomy tartan]

When every planet is named New Cadia then you will know our plan

[tired steeple]

the imperium is always on the brink of collapse

GW isn't gonna ever collapse it

[gloomy tartan]

Demons need hosts or other connections to even exist in real space temporarily

[tired steeple]

40k's lore is stagnant

[simple cliff]

Oh. IF you really want to hurt people's brain, start telling them about perputals. People that the warp just looks at and goes "fuck no' so they just keep coming back to life unless their literal soul is destroyed.

[gloomy tartan]

Demons can’t normally exist in real space

[modest flume]

That's where we are now, one of the few permanent entrances to the Warp called the Eye of Terror spat out a gigantic warp storm that bisected the galaxy

[tight pine]

So everything is nurgle then?

[tired steeple]

nurgle won IRL thanks to GW

[simple cliff]

Summoning demons is actually just letting the purple stuff into reality enough so they can exist.

[gloomy tartan]

Nurgle represents the chuds

[modest flume]

Who up mootashing they pharg rn

[gloomy tartan]

Exactly the demons need help to come into real space

Too op

[tight pine]

But since theirs eternal war then Khorne is the most powerful…

[gloomy tartan]

Can’t normally exist

Haven’t all of the chaos gods won several times ?

This is just the current game they are running?

I believe they even have a score

Who’s won the most

[modest flume]

But with war comes death, which fuels Nurgle, and the satisfaction of a good kill, which fuels Slaanesh, and the organizing of armies and logistics, which fuels Tzeentch, and so on

[simple cliff]

I think there are exception though. Nurgle often gets around that shit by making the daemon not actually a daemon and more of a 'walking virus'.
So you can turn a bunch of nurgle goo into a beast of nurgle, which is a creature, made by nurgle, but not techically a daemon but also pretty much is one.

[tired steeple]

also enough corruption in an area and shit can let daemons in

without hosts

[simple cliff]

Chaos spawn work on the same idea.

[gloomy tartan]

the plague corrupts enough real space to give him the influence he needs

That’s my guess

His plagues teraform shit good

[modest flume]

It's warp spawn, not necessarily daemonic

[tight pine]

This chat just facilitated quantum physics with 40K lore

[gloomy tartan]

Ok but like

How do we know Khorne doesn’t have a beer belly

Like realistic god of war fat Thor

Huh?

[modest flume]

Same way the Sororitas or greater Ecchlesiarchy praying to the Emps for some clean water or some shit isn't daemonic in nature

[tight pine]

Well.. he does sit on a seat all the time…

[gloomy tartan]

He could be fat buff

Where it’s all for strength

Not for looks

Purely for function

For war

[simple cliff]

Correct. But some daemons such as chaos spawns, beast of nurgle, and a few other types are able to enter more easily because they're not made of pure warp stuff. A beast of nurgle is legit a fucking plague turned into a monster. A chaos spawn used to be a dude. A defiler is a tank that has a daemon piloting it but the daemon isn't technically coming into real space. There are a lot of work arounds.

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah it’s a smart way to get around the rules

[simple cliff]

Generallly speaking, the less 'warp stuff' a daemon is made out of, the easier it is for it to to the real world.

[potent sage]

so are daemonic engines daemons?

i know that sounds like a silly question but they are basically just realspace vehicles

and tanks and combat walkers

[tight pine]

They are powered, and piloted by daemons yes

[gloomy tartan]

Corrupting real space is easier than bringing warp entity’s directly into real space ?

That’s how I understand it?

[modest flume]

A daemon gets stuffed into the workings of a machine and becomes sentient, so.. yeah

[tired inlet]

like, sure, demons are psychic manifestations of pure evil and incredibly powerful, but nothing is more powerful than contract law and across all religions, even demons are bound to the contract

[gloomy tartan]

Once more real space is corrupted it’s easier to bring the pure warp shit into real space

[simple cliff]

Yeah. You pretty much need to open a literal hole to the warp if you want to summon something extreme like a Greater Demon.

[gloomy tartan]

🕳️

[simple cliff]

You need a lot of the purple stuff.

[gloomy tartan]

OH DEAR GOD

ITS A HOLE

[tight pine]

Here it comes!

[simple cliff]

At that point don't be surprised if some weird space marines with halberds and gray armor show up.

[gloomy tartan]

🕳️

oh wow your right it came out of the hole

Look at that

We figured it out

[tight pine]

[modest flume]

curious puppy noises

you know, the weird snort sound it makes when it sees you

[tired inlet]

AND IT WAS MADE FOR ME

[tight pine]

why are you yapping like that?

[gloomy tartan]

🕳️

Uh oh

More stuff coming out the hole

[astral basin]

Fuck man. I get one week fine and all of a sudden the two month long chest wrenching stress comes back

[green vector]

[modest flume]

I feel that, today is my last day of vacation for a few months

Knowing I have to go back is just.. ech

[astral basin]

Vacation? People get those?

[modest flume]

I got one week

[simple cliff]

The main issue with real demons and not improv demons is that real demons tend to fuck you just by existing.
The regects probably could physically defeat a Great Unclean One, they have the firepower. But they'd be vomiting blood before they got close. You'd need many psychers on standby just to protect them and at that point you might as well send in the inquisitor himself instead of a kill team.

Unless it's a khorne daemon. In that case you might get the overwhelming urge to kill shit but that's it. The problem is that demons of khorne tend to be very good at straight up fights compared to the others.

[gloomy tartan]

Yo

If a demon wants your cheeks

[modest flume]

It's my first vacation since September so why not

[gloomy tartan]

You can’t even just kill yourself

They’ll take your soul

:/

[simple cliff]

Tzeench Daemon: "I am going to fuck with reality to kill you."
Nurgle Daemon: "I am going to make you vomit your organs."
Slannesh Daemon: "I am going to fuck with your senses."
Khorne Daemon: "I am going to beat you to death."

[astral basin]

My vacation time, like my wages, only accumulates via time spent working
I get an extra 25¢/hr every 900 hours (thats a little over 3 months for me btw)

[tight pine]

Run away, really really fast

[gloomy tartan]

Bro it will take your soul

You have no defenses

If you have a demons attention

You kinda fucked

Unless big e waves you

[simple cliff]

Wrong. Simply beat the shit out of the demon.

[tight pine]

Unless you beat it up

[modest flume]

I think we get PTO every 6 months or something

[gloomy tartan]

Can our souls beat them up?

[modest flume]

Otherwise it's a direct loss to me

[simple cliff]

That's is actually a thing that some psychers legit do. If you're strong enough it is possible to fight back. But... good luck.

40k has a lot of 'this is possible, you CAN do this BUT....'

[tired inlet]

but you forget, I'm a transhuman psychic null with a weapon forged in rituals.

[gloomy tartan]

Why can’t psykers just make a grenade with the warp

Fuckint dorks

[tight pine]

(Every blank ever)

[gloomy tartan]

Make me a magic grenade

[modest flume]

Vortex grenade:

[tired inlet]

Voidstrike Staff

[gloomy tartan]

Well that’s more like it

[simple cliff]

The 'but' usually entails a 0.1% chance of success, or you get fucked over later down the line, or something worse happens; you get the idea.

[gloomy tartan]

Stupid witch

[simple cliff]

Put it back.

[copper olive]

Tzeench Daemon: "I am going to fuck with reality to kill you."
Nurgle Daemon: "I am going to make you vomit your organs."
Slannesh Daemon: "I am going to fuck with your senses."
Khorne Daemon: "I am going to beat you to death."

[south valve]

I saw what you deleted 👁️ 👁️

[copper olive]

I had to ping them

[south valve]

I see what you deleted 👁️ 👁️

[gloomy tartan]

No one’s dealing with the Florida Herpes Monkeys

FYI

[simple cliff]

I mean, your senses are still getting fucked with. But also not incorrect depending on the demon in question.

Some Slannesh demons might go Hellraiser on your ass... some might just go for your ass.

[surreal onyx]

“No tears, please. It’s a waste of good suffering.”

[gloomy tartan]

Slanesh would rip your ass cheeks off

[south valve]

For free or?

[gloomy tartan]

Use them as knee pads

Yo

[hazy kestrel]

Darktide time I think

[gloomy tartan]

Y’all know about the booty cheek creek freak ?

[surreal onyx]

It was confirmed that they’re working on The Thing 2. I’m cautiously optimistic.

[gloomy tartan]

Bro

The prequel

[hazy kestrel]

Gen chat, freaky as usual I see.

[gloomy tartan]

It was so much cgi

[surreal onyx]

Was amazing.

[gloomy tartan]

I pray for more practical effects

[south valve]

Nah, just me

[modest flume]

What he do?

[gloomy tartan]

It was okay

[simple cliff]

The Emperors Children (chaos space marines that kept the name for irony) can only get pleasure ONCE from each extreme thing they do. But Slannesh demands they seek more and more excess. They're thousands of years old. So you can only imagine how fucked up it's gotten since they have to keep finding new things every time.

[surreal onyx]

If John Carpenter is overseeing it, I’ll be happy.

[south valve]

It was underwhelming 😔

[potent sage]

how frequently does the imperium preform exterminatus on planets

[gloomy tartan]

I enjoyed the prequel but the execs Stopped them from doing more practical effects

[simple cliff]

A lot of the grimdark in 40k comes from things that are implied rather then said.

[modest flume]

I can join

What are we doing?

[hazy kestrel]

I’m running expeditions again

[gloomy tartan]

So I hope they let him do what he wants this time

[hazy kestrel]

You might not want to lol

[modest flume]

[gloomy tartan]

They didn’t give them free reign for the prequel

[south valve]

I have a question

[modest flume]

It is an absolutely last resort

[surreal onyx]

Well, here’s hoping they do this time around.

[south valve]

what would have happened if Horus won?

[tight pine]

Then no imperium

[hazy kestrel]

The great game would continue

[modest flume]

If it's FUBAR, and FUBAR to the point where scorched earth won't help, it'll be considered

[gloomy tartan]

You would be a slave or something

[south valve]

Oh okay

[modest flume]

That's a very high bar to reach

[south valve]

Would all of humanity get taken over by choas?

[hazy kestrel]

Except not probably all of humanity would be split between the various chaos powers

[south valve]

would Tau intervene?

[simple cliff]

No one quite knows because Horus was being puppeted by the chaos gods. Maybe he'd make a new empire that allowed free woreship of chaos but most likely he'd be turned into a Demon Prince or something and then told 'have fun' and then the great game would start gaming once more.

[modest flume]

That is a planet permanently gone, that can't pay its tithe

[gloomy tartan]

I assume all of the real space would be consumed by the warp

[copper olive]

The thing is, pretty much every daemon fucks with the senses

[tight pine]

Bro, they were cavemen then

[south valve]

I guess

[gloomy tartan]

Fuck them blue people

[south valve]

Do you think Tau would intervene if humanity was seriously screwed?

[gloomy tartan]

They would take our twinks

Our goths

Our bbls

[tight pine]

We hate all blue xenos (say high to rocky being peak alien design)

[gloomy tartan]

Nothing more

[south valve]

What's a bbl?

[modest flume]

Nah

[gloomy tartan]

What?

[simple cliff]

Yeah. Khorne demons make you wanna throw hands. Nurgle demons make you throw up. Tzeench Demons everything feel like a bad trip. But Slannesh demons really target your senses. They get creative.

[gloomy tartan]

What’s a BBL?

[modest flume]

The Orks came the closest to wiping out the Imperium

[gloomy tartan]

Bro a bbl is a ass job

[modest flume]

They got to Terra with Roks poised at the planet

[potent sage]

brazilian butt lift bruh

assjob

[tight pine]

Goofy green goobers

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah I know painted didn’t know

[modest flume]

They didn't surrender then

[autumn bear]

hi

[modest flume]

(although the high lords wanted to )

[potent sage]

do you not like slaanesh

[gloomy tartan]

Painted how do you not know about the fake asses?

[tight pine]

[south valve]

The Tau would take our Brazilian butt lifts?

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah

[modest flume]

[gloomy tartan]

The tau wouel only save the humans they wanna fuck

The twinks

The bbls

The goth bitches

[copper olive]

Secondary fun fact

[gloomy tartan]

The submissive humans

[south valve]

I thought Tau didn't want to reproduce with humans?

[gloomy tartan]

They don’t

[copper olive]

The orks also got the closest to killing big E

[tight pine]

No that’s what slaneesh daemons do

[gloomy tartan]

They want the submissive humans

They wouel let the rest of us die

[modest flume]

True! On Ullanor no?

[simple cliff]

Slannesh would turn me into a chaos spawn that has it's tongue up its own ass because it got bored and thought it'd be funny. Even when you become a Demon Prince, Slannesh might still get bored with you and turn you into a spawn if you don't keep up the good work.

[gloomy tartan]

Keep the subs as pets

tau treat humans like dogs bro

They spay and neuter us

When you join them

[copper olive]

Man I love games workshop making the Tau more and more evil over time because having good people in a dark setting could never work

[simple cliff]

The irony of Slannesh is you have to work very hard to please it. You can't just sit back and have a massive 24/7 orgy or gluttonous feast or whatever because Slannesh will eventually want you to do something new.

[copper olive]

(Warhammer fantasy in the corner)

[tight pine]

imma go with votann then, a lot better than THAT hellscape if a species

[delicate walrus]

Baja blast

[south valve]

Insert joke about me being into that

[simple cliff]

So the god of excess and having as much 'fun' as possible is actually the biggest pain in the ass to work for.

[gloomy tartan]

Why would the votan give a fuck about humans

???

The imperium is anti xeno as fuck

Why would any alien help us

[copper olive]

Slaanesh's favorite follower in both settings was a human noble that was just prince charming from Shrek

[tight pine]

Trade deals have been struck with them

[copper olive]

I see you haven't heard about the edlar soup kitchen

[gloomy tartan]

OH TRADE DEALS

MESA SORRY BOSS NASS

[simple cliff]

To be fair, the Eldar compete with Big E to see who can shoot themselves in the foot more often.

[modest flume]

He doesn't like the freak, just wants blood

[gloomy tartan]

TRADE FEDERATION LOVES HUMANSS

ITS NOT LIKE THE TRADE FEDERATION WOULD BETRAY US

OH WAIT

THEY DID

[simple cliff]

The amount of times the Eldar could have just said 'hey, this chaos dude is a threat to us dude so we're going to fight him. We know you don't like us but let's ignore each other' but instead they try some bullshit like making a massive conspiracy that'll cause both sides to take each other out but then one sides does 'too well' and ends up killing the Eldar when they find out.

[gloomy tartan]

Man fuck them knife ears from space

[copper olive]

FUN FACT, ASURMAN MADE A SUPPORT / RELIEF EFFORT FOR AN IMPERIAL HIVE WORLD WITH ZERO ULTERIOR MOTIVE

[tight pine]

Please remember, the imperium hates humans (say hi to servitors existing)

[modest flume]

mUh gRiMdArK

[gloomy tartan]

Who’s up darking they grim?

It’s so grim

[simple cliff]

Yes, the imperials do not like the Eldar but it has been shown multiple times they are willing to 'ignore' them if there is something worse on the horizon. Even work with them if shit is REALLY fucked.

[gloomy tartan]

So dark

[modest flume]

who up darking they tide rn

[copper olive]

In fairness, half the people in the emperium would shoot them on sight

[gloomy tartan]

Damn knife ears

Coming onto my land

[simple cliff]

They sort of did that to themselves though. 90% of the time 'working' with the Eldar means they're going to fuck you over so fuck it, just shoot em.

[tight pine]

Disposal unit is such a good beat

[copper olive]

Yknow

Is there any lore reason besides "muh grimdark" the Tau and Eldar don't work together?

They're the two factions most willing to work with others

[modest flume]

Ego?

[tight pine]

Space racism

[gloomy tartan]

I assume space elfs don’t wanna be castrated

[crisp yoke]

How’s everyone?

[gloomy tartan]

The tau like to spay and neuter their allies

[modest flume]

Tau have even tried to negotiate with Chaos so..

[simple cliff]

I think it's legit just because there's not much reason for them to. The tau are a small part of space and aren't really involved in any of the shit the Eldar carea about. Also the implications that the Etherials might be doing some shady shit.

[gloomy tartan]

Tau don’t mind fucking but they will spay and neuter you first

So enjoy killing your bloodline

[copper olive]

God you really hate the Tau

[modest flume]

When the

NEXUS

FABELLOR

IMPLOREM

QUADRIGUE

hits, it speaks to me

[copper olive]

It's funny because arguably the emperium does worse

[gloomy tartan]

I’m stating facts

[simple cliff]

Generally speaking, you get Eldar if the Eldar has something in the area they don't want being fucked with. Or they saw some vison that said fucking will affect them in some way. Otherwise they try to stay away from everyone.

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah but ima human

[simple cliff]

Except the Dark Eldar. They need you. They need you.

[copper olive]

Okay, have fun dying because you're not human :>

[gloomy tartan]

I’m sure the tau think neutering people is okay

[tight pine]

Mechanicus moment:

[gloomy tartan]

I’m Cadian

I’m as human as it gets

[copper olive]

Still better than killing all other species, and this isn't a case 100% of the time

[simple cliff]

Generally, Eldar tend to focus on Chaos, Tyranids, and Necrons because in theory those three things could wipe out all life in the galaxy or make it REALLY REALLY fucked up.

[tight pine]

Warp resistance?

[green vector]

mechanicussy

[gloomy tartan]

They try to act like the good guys while treating allies like pets

Fuck thrm blue people

[copper olive]

All those battles you're still only the second best line of pure humans

[gloomy tartan]

Hadron Bing bang

Cadians did nothing wrong

Hate us cuz you ain’t us

[copper olive]

Nah I just like the Catachans more

[gloomy tartan]

Ik we rule

[potent sage]

cadians when NOBODY CARES about they planet!!

[gloomy tartan]

Bitch I saved you

[south valve]

they planet

[simple cliff]

"You... you dropped a massive orc waaaagh on me because my world is secretly a tomb world and your projections showed that the orcs and necrons would wipe each other out?"
Yes.
"Why didn't you tell me this was a tomb world? Becuase I defeated your orks and now the damn necrons are waking up."
shrugs.

[gloomy tartan]

Don’t forget

lol

[tight pine]

THY END IS NOW!

[gloomy tartan]

I saved yo ass

Don’t act like I don’t

[potent sage]

"save"

you helped me do ONE penance

and im very appreciative of that

[copper olive]

Strongest Cadian vs Weakest Catachan ->

[south valve]

Toxic friendship

I'm avoiding saying ship to not be weird

[potent sage]

evil moid

[gloomy tartan]

lol

[copper olive]

You aren't a navigator, stay away from ships

[south valve]

moid sounds like an alien

[gloomy tartan]

Damn straight I did

[tight pine]

Steel legion in the corner:

[potent sage]

moid is a

[modest flume]

nothing wrong with a ship

a relationship

[potent sage]

masculoid

which is a guy

[simple cliff]

1. Eldar bait enemy into attacking planet.
2. Imperium resist and despite the odds manages to win.
3. Eldar realize they need to get involved because Imperium wasn't supposed to win, or at least not win that hard.
4. Imperium realizes the Eldar fucked with them.
5. A whole lot of Eldar die and the imperium ends up defeating the threat anyway.
6. Eldar detect a new threat.
7. The cycle repeats.

FUCKING SPACE ELVES!

[gloomy tartan]

I’m cadian. I’m reliable.

[simple cliff]

1. Be orks.
2. Get used by chaos and eldar all the time as distraction or false flag.
3. Not give a shit because fighting is fighting.
4. Get to beat up eldar or chaos when they eventually show up.
5. Orks win because now they get to fight even more.

[south valve]

"My dear, you are to language what exterminatus was to Sondheim V." - Rannick

[tight pine]

1. Be mechanicus
2. Always be side character

[hard gorge]

The eldar all collectively have space dementia. Combine this with their uberarrogance and you get one hell of a boomercore alien race

[potent sage]

what became of Sondheim V

[hard gorge]

Pain

[south valve]

💥

[copper olive]

Khorne is lucky Gorkamorka isn't around in 40k or hed get his teeth stomped in

[potent sage]

i see

[modest flume]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-explode-clouds-of-smoke-gif-17216934

[modest flume]

No, don't, you'll be blinded if you look at a nuclear explosion

[south valve]

this

[tight pine]

Is

[simple cliff]

"We can't just tell the humans cause they hate us."
Ok... instead of arranging an entire conspiracy have you considered doing something much smaller scale? Maybe secretly arranging it so the Imperial forces become aware of the problem and maybe deal with it for you before you do something extreme?
"No. Why would we do that?"

[modest flume]

Yes, is

[gloomy tartan]

Cadians are the best

[tight pine]

No, steel legion is best

[copper olive]

This is under the assumption lower ranking imperials can do much of anything without higher ups and a million lines of bureaucracy getting in the way

[copper olive]

What's special about cadians besides their planet blowing up

[gloomy tartan]

Best tanks

[simple cliff]

Right. Right. So redirecting an entire waaaagh to the planet or whatever can be plan B if the imperials don't do shit. Because if you start with plan B but the wrong side wins, the winning side is now weaker and you're forced to intervene or risk the plan failing. This happens to them a LOT.

[modest flume]

You know cookie cutter? He made them

Bro is cookie

[potent sage]

poop flayer

[simple cliff]

For some reason, the Imperium magically become extremely competent the moment the Eldar plan needs them to lose to a different enemy.

[copper olive]

Which is usually pis because GW refuses to let the Eldar do ANYTHING

[crisp yoke]

Anyone wanna hear a story?

[copper olive]

And the Eldar magically become incompetent whenever they're about to actually win

[modest flume]

For some reason, the Imperium magically become extremely incompetent the moment the Eldar plan needed them to lose to a different enemy.

FTFY

[simple cliff]

It's ok. They got to beat up Abbadon that one time.

[gloomy tartan]

Cadia made a lot of soldiers for all the wars, the imperium is in