general-chat

[rain pilot]

His shadow was his aura

[whole glade]

kars just was just cool writing

and the end was dope too

[rain pilot]

Part 3 felt long

So so long

[surreal ermine]

stardust crusaders my beloved

[whole glade]

and?

its the best one

me love so goddamn tarot cards

[rain pilot]

I am the fool

As you see before you

[tired steeple]

My favourite was 3 or 2

[whole glade]

Anubis my beloved stand

[rain pilot]

Mine is either 4 or 6

[tired steeple]

My favourite stand would beeee

Catch the Rainbow

Since that’s my favourite song as well

It’s kinda shit and way too situational but I like it

[surreal ermine]

i like harvest

[rain pilot]

Burning down the house

[tired steeple]

Hierophant Green is probably my second favourite

Then The World

[rain pilot]

Crazy diamond then Stone Free

[jaunty path]

man wanna be jesus

[surreal ermine]

stone free is one of my favorites just for the ||mobius strip|| moment

i really like diver down too

[tired steeple]

Yeah

Diver Down is cool as hell

[rain pilot]

Marilyn manson

[tired steeple]

That was a weird one

I liked it though

[rain pilot]

C-Moon scares me

[surreal ermine]

D4C rocks

[rain pilot]

D4C love train

The president built the wall

[jaunty path]

America having total immunity to bad outcomes

sounds noble but like

long term I feel it can only lead to some grand fuckery

[winged oasis]

i sure would love to try auric difficulty

IF IT ACTUALLY HAD ANYBODY PLAYING ITT

[lilac crag]

@jaunty path

[thick fog]

thats not how you drink the milk

stupid car

[jaunty path]

darktide?

not gonna tonight

eatign

and will prolly sleep

[lilac crag]

oki

[jaunty path]

SOMEDAY

I'll drop this game

SOMEDAY.

[lean warren]

Sister, the deephive calls!

The scum of Tertium have embraced the god of Decay, it is holy duty that we must purge them

It will never be over

Also sleep and eating are good

But the Emperor still calls

[astral basin]

Inquisitor, that one there. He dares give name to the archenemy.

[jaunty path]

5 more hours of darktide at 3am

what partially makes me not wanna play is the lag

only been at worst in havoc

butttttttttt

i wannna play havoc.

then again

I also

wanna have fun

Maybe go away for a while till they patch it enough so the game actually runs more smoothly.

and like

a bit of optimization..

[twin flower]

wonder when that will be

[jaunty path]

a millenia

not playing this game might be a positive more than anything tbh

[twin flower]

guess people like it enough they dont get tired of it

i'll prolly come back again when they finished cooking up whatevers on construction at the strategium

[delicate kite]

what about a sticky surprise early in the morning

thats never a net positive

[dire kayak]

the omnissiah is love
the omnissiah is life

[urban valley]

Give it 9 months

[timber elk]

I’m tired of the game

[delicate kite]

dont play it

problem solved

bitch about something else instead

like people here about politics do

and turn this into reddit

[timber elk]

I literally just got here….

[marsh iris]

||The Game||

[delicate kite]

some flowers were never meant to bloom

[dire kayak]

so real,,,

[twin flower]

||Vincent is gay||

[lilac crag]

gooooooobbb

u need 2 eep

[dire kayak]

i knoww

[lilac crag]

go !!!!! shoo shoo

[timber elk]

Im soooo sleeeeeeply

[delicate kite]

i am

[lilac crag]

u both sleep then

ez

[timber elk]

Can’t

My dog isn’t feeling well and he’s taking up the entire bed

[lilac crag]

oh real

[delicate kite]

thats not an issue

[twin flower]

must be a big doggo

[delicate kite]

the issue is that you are trying to occupy what righfully belongs to the pupper

[timber elk]

He’s a Great Dane

[twin flower]

noice

[timber elk]

He’s getting in years

So he hasn’t been feeling well

[twin flower]

I feel that

[gloomy tartan]

Same

Lost mine recently.

Got a new one but still.

[delicate kite]

should ve never came back to this gen chat

depression struck as early as 10 am

fuck you people

also my condolonces

[gloomy tartan]

Thx

[timber elk]

Thanks man…

[gloomy tartan]

Sry for downersvill

You guys think scooby doo would be a cyber dog ?

[timber elk]

Yes

[gloomy tartan]

Cyber chihuahuas would be funny

Throwable like a Grenade

[cosmic burrow]

big dogs have shorter lifepsans

[winged oasis]

wait theres an alternative ending to the tox train mission?

we defused all the bombs but didnt stop the train

[gloomy tartan]

What lol

[winged oasis]

there was too little time

[gloomy tartan]

Like you failedv

?

[winged oasis]

it still crashed into the station

but i didnt see any green shit explode

[gloomy tartan]

Did you run out of time before you shot the engine.

?

The 4 things?

after defuse last bomb

[winged oasis]

yeah

[gloomy tartan]

Ah

Yeah the trains still going like a billion miles per hour

So like

It didn’t explode

Pox

But like

It’s still a train going a billion miles per hour

[cosmic burrow]

its still mass

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah like

LESS people died

Lmao

No pox explosions cuz you defused those I guess?

[rose pine]

And even then, the ignition from the burning or simply exploding engine maaaay set off the Pox bombs anyway

They were at the engine room, no? In the front

[cosmic burrow]

no

those are the things you do along the train

the thing in from is control room

[gloomy tartan]

You know that’s what they did to shin Godzilla

Hit him with a fuck ton of trains

Revenge for the time he killed a train in his first movie

And various other movies

The trains got to have they’re vengeance

[trail bramble]

(it did not work)

[delicate vapor]

Dear diary

JACKPOT

!

[marsh iris]

doro death

found a stray kitty looking for food, put her down to go buy some food from the shop, some fucking kids go LOOK KITTY and scared it off, cant find it anymore

little shits

[delicate kite]

kill the kids

and feed it to the kitty

[amber delta]

death

[oblique hatch]

no way the doro is in here too

[whole bough]

is there a mod that

changes the model of the needle gun to the raygun

cod raygun

[thick fog]

weapon customization

the closest thing

[oblique hatch]

is there a mod to make the hub solo so i dont need to sit in loading for 2 minutes "waiting for other players"

[thick fog]

if it takes that long to load, then is a restart

[blazing shadow]

Is it possible that dialogue between characters rarely happen on maelstorm due the ammount of crazy hordes? I miss some interaction in my games

[amber sail]

The peepeepoopoo man is real

[marsh iris]

true...

[stiff barn]

Deleted SM2 once more

Slop

[modern bobcat]

SlopMarine2?????

[stiff barn]

Yea mid

[nocturne bloom]

-slop
-deleted again
Sounds like you love slop but are too shy to admit it

[stiff barn]

Lack of space marine games

So I'm forced to play it

Come back to the game and there's more junk

[amber delta]

qualityslop

funslop

enjoyableslop

[stiff barn]

Only fun when it wants to work and doesn't get repetitive

Which doesn't last long

[nocturne bloom]

Everything is repetitive if you keep doing it

[stiff barn]

Not with Darktide

[nocturne bloom]

Definitely with DT

[stiff barn]

Nah

[nocturne bloom]

Yea

[stiff barn]

Space marine 2 gets boring in 5 seconds because of all the slow paste nonsense that game puts you into

"Let's have a loading screen for every single thing"

[nocturne bloom]

Cant relate, fast pc

[stiff barn]

Didn't ask

You still get put into loading screens anyways

[nocturne bloom]

Takes no longer or even less than DT does for me tbh

[stiff barn]

10k PC I'm guessing

[lilac crag]

the length at which that becomes true between dt and sm2 is very vast though

I dumped double hours into dt compared to sm2

purely cause

enemy density and variety is significantly less engaging

[nocturne bloom]

Both became pretty repetitive to me at about the same hours

[amber delta]

because dt is qualityslop

sm2 is auraslop

[nocturne bloom]

Pre ram and gpu spike or after

[lilac crag]

I mean ya that's fair to each their own but the truthful view is that sm2 just Has Less Content to Repeat

[nocturne bloom]

Oh obviously for sure

[stiff barn]

Your pc

[nocturne bloom]

It is also newer though, and the game was pretty much dusted when they said they were making another

[stiff barn]

It has content but it's boring

[nocturne bloom]

Yea pre ram and gpu spike or after

[tacit geode]

SM2 you got blue attack and red attack that's the depth of the game babey

[stiff barn]

So you have a 10k gaming pc? Insane

[nocturne bloom]

My ram alone is like $400 plus now and I originally got it for $100

[long sigil]

damn fucking ram price

curse you AI

[nocturne bloom]

The week I bought my new set before it spiked I got the last set and when it restocked it was like double what I paid the week before

Even my spare ripjaws are crazy now

[long sigil]

[nocturne bloom]

And apparently people in russia are just flat out making their own ram with chinese boards

Kinda chad ngl

[long sigil]

cool

[stiff barn]

How did you afford 10k worth of a gaming pc btw?

[long sigil]

huh

[nocturne bloom]

When did I say it was 10k

[stiff barn]

You said it runs fast

[nocturne bloom]

You dont need 10k for a fast pc bruh

[stiff barn]

Oh so 7k

[nocturne bloom]

Not even

Where do people pull these numbers from

[lilac crag]

my current skimming shows any pc on sm2s standards nowadays is in 3 to 5k range

[nocturne bloom]

2k is all youd need

[lilac crag]

however I don't know crap bout pcs and purely going off of sm2s quality settings

[stiff barn]

Insane

Might as well sell your own kidney while you're at it

Which i might do

[nocturne bloom]

I work a magical thing called a job so I dont need to

[stiff barn]

Rare in this economy

[nocturne bloom]

I built my pc when I worked at a dollar general

[stiff barn]

I was denied

[lilac crag]

I mean yea, need, but due to the poor performance of sm2s backend workings, you might get frame spikes, long loading screens, overwork your pc ( this Just Happens if you play sm2 regardless ) and have a choppy experience in general

[nocturne bloom]

I work for a school now

[lilac crag]

you can totally get the bare minimum for being on sm2 but playing sm2 without any of those problems is like

in the 3k range

[nocturne bloom]

Coming from someone that ran sm2 on 2 different pcs, one of which being under spec, you just get high temps and some occasional stuttering

Its not a gpu thing

Ram and your SSD is more important for loading

[stiff barn]

Too bad I'll never afford one

[lilac crag]

strange

[nocturne bloom]

Not really

Just how pcs work

[lilac crag]

you are the First person I've met that said the only problems you had on underspecced pc for sm2 is mere stuttering and high Temps

I've had friends whose pcs got bricked after like a months worth of playtime

on standard reqs

's why I'm so vocal bout the game having dog performance I straight up lost the ability to play with some friends of mine

[nocturne bloom]

I mean im pretty stiff with my pc. I do clean windows installs every 6 months and keep it as bare bones as possible

[lilac crag]

makes sense

[nocturne bloom]

I do occasionally make it play like 2 to 3 games at once though and thats when it gets real bad

Small games mind you

Terraria, MH wilds and palworld was making my pc want to

[lilac crag]

MH Wilds was another case

[nocturne bloom]

Just waiting for my cheap dookie $50 mobo i started with to die

[lilac crag]

gosh I'm so happy it got fixed

[lilac crag]

real

[nocturne bloom]

New mobo has been under my desk for like 4 months

Old one has like 2 chips from when it shipped in it

Wilds is good. I picked it up like 3 days ago and am rank 50 already

Felt a little too easy up until tempered Gore

Now i gotta see if i can make everything before it's major expansion if it ever gets one

Tbf though I use Lance so all I do for like 15 minutes every hunt is spam rt to block and then Y 4 times

See a wound then use rb

I gotta start using the rising then sweep

Charge is also goated on Jin because you just carve a line of dps from its face to its tail

And you just look cool tanking almost every attack in the game, think there's only 2 or 3 that will still 1 shot through the guard

Looking forward to the customization too. New event armor is pretty cute and actually pairs well with the fox ears and tail

[marsh iris]

cyberstan stronk

long live

[delicate vapor]

dear diary OH YEAH

[obtuse oak]

computers dont get bricked by trying to run something beyond their specs

all modern hardware simply self-throttles when it reaches its ceiling

if their PCs bricked while they were playing SM2, their PCs were going to die soon regardless because the hardware was going to fail either way.

or they lacked sufficient cooling solutions for their hardware, also possible

[modern bobcat]

Best thing about Slop Marine 2 is Chinese and Russian hackers who use warp magic to 1-shot you with a multi-melta in PVP from inside their own spawn

[wraith mist]

Dumb question but I was listening to voiceline compilations: which of the cast do y’all think requires the most and/or would be most receptive to modern therapy?

Obvious choices are the Cadian Cutthroats, and the Psykers and their Beloved, but I’m gonna go for the sleeper hit of the Loner Psyker. I can’t speak to the female variant, but the male is very bitter and cynical—justifiably, yes, but still.

Maybe the Zealots or the Arbites could use some counseling against their indoctrination, but I think they’re a bit of a lost cause honestly.

[cosmic burrow]

cutthroats would not be receptive to therapy mate

they actively want to kill

[modern bobcat]

if I were Cadian I'd want to kill too (myself)

I went to the hobby shop today and looked at Warhammer minis

but then I decided there may still be some small hope of having sex

so I postponed buying anything

[amber delta]

modern therapy is a scam nobody is receptive to it 🥀

[wraith mist]

Yeah I imagine they’d be pretty averse to it at first, but I think a proper intervention and some Good Will Hunting could do them good! Though imagine having to do grief counseling over an entire planet… 😭

[twin flower]

I think they'd much sooner go back to Tertium than go to therapy

[amber delta]

he's not mad people on cadia died, he's just mad he failed his duty

[wraith mist]

It’s a lot of self-hatred, certainly. I think he feels a need to open up about it, he just doesn’t know how to outside of venting his anger.

[twin flower]

Then again weaponizing peoples trauma sounds like something the Inquisition would do

[wraith mist]

Well let’s just say the Mourningstar gets caught in the Warp and shot back to our modern day. No more Imperium, no more witch-hunts; ignore the language barrier, culture shock, and consequences of a giant cathedral-ship appearing over Earth.

[twin flower]

an Inquisitorial ship looming ontop of modern day earth?

What could go wrong

[wooden creek]

Unauthorized Fucking Object, shoot it down now

[wraith mist]

Point is, the Rejects get a chance to lead normal lives, if only they’re able to adjust and get over their issues. And I think the Cutthroats have a decent chance of doing so, however rocky a road it might be.

[twin flower]

What would they consider normal at that point tho

[wraith mist]

I dunno. What do soldiers normally do when they come home?

Might cause a bit of a stir at the VA’s office, and group therapy might be a strained for a while, but I think they could adjust!

[twin flower]

Idk if they'd consider modern day earth home though, they'd prolly thing we'd be some kind of primitive planet that forgot about the emperor

[fading otter]

They’d probably spread whatever vile ass Nurgle plague they’re all carriers of to an unprotected earth population and wipe us all out

[fallen tree]

going back 40k-something years would probably do more on their mental than anything else

[twin flower]

Imagine just drop pods descening from space filled with penal soldiers of convicts

[wraith mist]

It’s fiiiiine, they’ve all had their shots. I got swallowed and spat out by a Beast of Nurgle and I’m fine!

[lilac crag]

tis was the problem

I ain't a tech priest with pcs so I didn't quite understand how my friend's pc died but I think it was related to fried

during loading times specifically it would heat up like shite

[thick coyote]

Loose Cannon is one of the most broken of them

They just laugh it off though

[ivory dawn]

Bully ogryn, next question-

[thick coyote]

Smoove brain

Any psychological issue slides right off

[lilac crag]

Fatalist Arby needs an entire rehab imo

if someone won't get their head out of the gutter they'll kill themselves willingly or not

[ivory dawn]

I can attest to that statement

[amber delta]

suicidal laezel

[limpid vigil]

damn i hope if they make chaos wastes a thing the ost for it slaps

[lilac crag]

hi neo

can I call u that btw

[limpid vigil]

yep

[lilac crag]

yippee

[limpid vigil]

like a kind of amalgam of previous ost to sell that rougelike mode feel

[amber delta]

can I call you femboy

[limpid vigil]

i am everything but that , but sure

[amber delta]

based

[limpid vigil]

like one second you hear warp traveler and the next it kinda mixes into disposal unit

doubt that will happen but it would be cool

had that idea marinating in my head for a while now

[marsh iris]

dont cancel me for saying this but

im straight

[amber delta]

thank you for sharing what kind of genitals you find attractive, this is crucial information to assess

[limpid vigil]

this is like those times ppl say they are trying for a baby but all they are really saying is the do not use protection and somehow feel the need to share

[amber delta]

we are trying every day

we tried 30 minutes ago

and we will try later today

maybe we should go to the bathroom and try right now

[marsh iris]

lets try

[pine shuttle]

Anyone on EU that would want to help me get the Malleus Monstronum Penance on Psyker perchance? :>

[amber delta]

try in vox-lfg channel

[pine shuttle]

I'm blind, my bad

[amber delta]

#vox-lfg-emea

[elder merlin]

[dire kayak]

the yaoi is amazing

[modern bobcat]

Updated my .txt

[delicate vapor]

[elder merlin]

Awaken @sleek harness

[delicate vapor]

Nope

[elder merlin]

Awaken @delicate vapor

[delicate vapor]

I shall go be attending Japanese number videos and sleep

[astral basin]

Why is paul a fish

[arctic tapir]

If doing the 25 havoc clearance penance, if I join a lobby over 25 will it complete?

cool beans

[lilac crag]

yes anything above 25

[thick coyote]

I used to sit at 25 to help with that penance

But I haven't played much havoc and due to inactivity+reset I'm at h10 nowadays

[feral vessel]

Good morning Atoma.

[tired steeple]

Hello

It’s cold as shit

[feral vessel]

So that's why everyone's asleep?

[fallen tree]

it was 35c today

hot as shit

😔

[dull quest]

should i skip the tertium campaign or do it again

[feral vessel]

skip

it restricts you on what missions you can play until you finish the whole thing

not fun

[dull quest]

damn thx for telling me

[amber delta]

never do campaign

[west urchin]

at the mission select screen, bottom right should show the binding to open mission terminal options, (E on pc) as long as you have Campaign Missions - Quickplay set to ON, you can still get queued into campaign missions if you wanted to hear dialogue/help players still doing campaign. Kinda random if you get put into one, the higher your difficulty the more rare, I live in auric and get like, 1 every 20 games or something

[astral basin]

Beans

[feral vessel]

awo

[arctic tapir]

Bubble + Smite + Psyker = Byter

[winged oasis]

i wonder if we'll ever get to be on a mission that's like, nearby actually populated tertium

[blazing shadow]

what does it mean the roma numbers on maelstorm missions?

like mission I-III-VIII-F

[twin flower]

Doubt they'll involve civvies during missions

Be cool tho

[winged oasis]

give us the bonus pay for civilian collat

[fallen tree]

horde protect? sounds interesting

[twin flower]

Acceptable collateral

[winged oasis]

some of the missions really feel like they should have civvies

[fallen tree]

whats the acceptable collateral?

[winged oasis]

any

civilians caught in missions are damned by association

[fallen tree]

gameplay wise it has to be a certain threshold

i think ur right btw, anything >1 should be rewarded

[arctic tapir]

Keep forgetting that I need to actually level up my psykers weapons

[fallen tree]

you dont have to, but itd help

[twin flower]

sactifice green weapons if you dont have docket issues

[thick coyote]

It's their condition
G means enhanced Blitz

[arctic tapir]

Going into Auric + Low Havoc with only level 300 weapons

[thick coyote]

F means reduced ability cool down

[twin flower]

I mean I do that too to level them up

might be ass since its like a low grade weap but thats what youre grinding for i guess

[thick coyote]

i : waves of specials
ii : monster specials
iii : hunting grounds
iv : sniper waves
v : only traitor guard faction (chaos faction are neutral and will still spawn (ogryns/pox))
vi : scarce ammo
vii : mutant waves (40% hp)
viii : Mostly Ranged Enemies
ix : Poxwalker burster waves
x :
xi :
xii : less intense, harder enemies

a : darkness
b : ventilation purge
c : melee only
d : extra barrels
e : nurgles blessing
f : 20% ability cdr
g : enhanced grenades (+2 nades, 50% cdr on brain burst)

[fallen tree]

lmao, no thanks :^) im just being the silly guy, is psyker the class ur pushing for havoc?

[twin flower]

dear lawd

[winged oasis]

figuring out that same weapons hyper level up their respective weapon sacrifice is crazy

[fallen tree]

over 3 lines, i cant read dawg

[winged oasis]

i didnt know why i never knew about this when i first got in the game

[twin flower]

To be fair, theres a lot the game doesnt say

[thick coyote]

See this is what I hate about videogames, it appeals to the male fantasy of being able to read

🗣️

[feral vessel]

modifiers

[arctic tapir]

Not really specifically

[winged oasis]

no it straight up says that

in the descriptor thingy

[twin flower]

Oh, real?

How bout that

[oblique hatch]

joins auric maelstrom
7 sniper lasers on me 0.01s after spawning

cool

[sleek harness]

Just dodge

[oblique hatch]

[rose pine]

Skaven has a point

[warm maple]

have you tried being immune to bullets

[soft sun]

What's with the weird difficulty creep since last update

In heresy on the train, first spawn is 2 crushers and 3 maulers, backed by reapers

[sleek harness]

Depends on the modfier

[amber delta]

crusherslop

[thick coyote]

Idk sounds normal to me

Actually I lied
The normal would be 3 crushers and 2 maulers

[brave slate]

Fatshark is at some game event thingabob in europe right?

[twin flower]

Are they

[sleek harness]

I think Fatshark is at home

Waiting for the devs to make something

Anything

To call it a update

[blazing shadow]

devs just think the dificulty is the way to go so they just add things without balance a sht

[brave slate]

Oh, the Swedish game awards were yesterday

[sleek harness]

That would be havoc

The base game is fine

[blazing shadow]

btw, when a creep hits you and your barrier is not at 0 but you still getting damage... why is that?

i'm not speaking about the flamers, more like normal npc's or maniacs

[sleek harness]

That's toughness penetration

A small percentage of their damage damages your health

[blazing shadow]

oh, didn't know that thing exist on the game, i mean i understand the flame but didn't know npc could have this, is there anything to know wich enemy has this arpen

[sleek harness]

Melee enemies

[amber delta]

if you have 100% toughness melee hit will do 0 hp dmg, if you have 50% toughness, 50% of the damage will damage your health

[thick coyote]

Swedish Games Award?
It was yesterday

Expedition 33 won another award there btw

[sleek harness]

Zealot Freaks crashed out

You know, I am kind of liking the game now

Just because of that

[blazing shadow]

oh, i see, this is always have been like this? maybe i didn't notice with high toughness value

[soft sun]

There were no modifiers, it was just a normal game on the train

[amber delta]

afaik yes

[sleek harness]

Are you sure you are not confusing difficulties?

Though 2 crushers are easy to kill ngl

[soft sun]

Absolutely not, middle of the ground heresy

No no, that was just the first few. The whole game was brutal, didn't make it to the end. Even had an orange name title person in group

[blazing shadow]

i feel like the game overall have been increasing his dificulty, obviously is more notorious on endgame dificulty

[sleek harness]

Orange titles doesn't mean anything

[brave slate]

? Isn't Expedition 33, forgive me for uttering this word, French?

[sleek harness]

Yeah

Made by a french indie team

[amber delta]

"indie"

[sleek harness]

Somewhat

[brave slate]

So why did it win at a Swedish game award lmao

[gloomy tartan]

Was it Swedish games only?

[trail bramble]

those dastardly Europeans and their trade union

[gloomy tartan]

Or just one run by Swedes ?

[brave slate]

Ahh, just saw the website. It was under the foreign game award category

[thick coyote]

Yes
So you'll never guess this
It won Foreign Game of The Year Award

[gloomy tartan]

Well there ya go

[thick coyote]

[brave slate]

Fatshark wasn't nominated for anything now that I'm looking through the list...

Unless I've overlooked something

[amber delta]

I bet they nominated helldivers

[chrome sierra]

the nominees for this Best Live Service Award

Candy Crush Saga (King)

⁠Helldivers 2 (Arrowhead Game Studios)

Minecraft (Mojang Studios)

Valheim (Iron Gate Studio)

[amber delta]

MINECRAFT

[thick coyote]

Really funny because Valheim still early access

I had no idea Candy Crush Saga was swedish

[amber delta]

so is helldivers looking at the bugs

[chrome sierra]

https://www.swedishgameawards.se/nomineessga2026

[sleek harness]

Helldivers 2 probably winning ngl

Who the hell will give a trophy for Candy Crush Saga?

[amber delta]

valheim is probably the best out of these

[thick coyote]

It just doesn't fit the category, no?

[twin flower]

Old people

[amber delta]

what is live service anyway

is there a dead service

[thick coyote]

Yes

Concord

[twin flower]

stream of monetized content to keep players going ts

[thick coyote]

It did get a dlc

Right?

So I guess it fits the category by that metric

[fallen tree]

is minecraft really considered live service?

oh my god

[amber delta]

is minecraft really considered nomination worthy

for anything

[fallen tree]

true

[nimble salmon]

Hasn’t been relevant for at least 7-8 years

[thick coyote]

As someone with heavy bias about Minecraft I'd say yes it's award worthy

That being said

I stopped playing at 1.9.2

[amber delta]

I LIKE minecraft

but

recently its been

eeeeh

lacking

[thick coyote]

So it's been ages and I have no idea how things are recently

[nimble salmon]

Yeah it’s old and irrelevant

[twin flower]

Hytale better

[amber delta]

stardew valley better

[sleek harness]

Hytale just started existing

After 6 years

[nimble salmon]

Pixel gun 3d better

[sleek harness]

It was

Before they monetized it to it's fullest and brought bots to play it

Because the game is dead

[urban valley]

Hytale's got nothing on cubeworld

[thick coyote]

Whatever you say
Kogama still clears

[nimble salmon]

Danidev ahh game

[drowsy lynx]

Watched a friend play hytale a bit the other day and just couldn't see the appeal, looked very much like worse valheim

[amber delta]

every survivalslop is a worse valheim

[thick coyote]

Valheim is just Baronyslop anyways

[obtuse oak]

a game update cycle that intends to keep players continuously engaged with the game by providing regular content drops at relatively short intervals

[amber delta]

so darktide and valheim dont qualify because the intervals are anything but short

[modern bobcat]

live service also implies a kind of yearly subscription like a paid battlepass

not always though

[obtuse oak]

classic example of a non-live service: the elder scrolls 4: oblivion. it received paid DLC in the form of expansion packs and smaller plugins, but did not aim to keep people playing the game regularly. they just sold new content whenever they had something finished.

[amber delta]

I play regularly to experience horse armor

[obtuse oak]

example of a live service: battlefield 6. gameplay updates, skins, battlepasses, events, etc. are regularly added to keep people playing. battlepass creates an incentive invest more playtime even after spending money, because the paid content needs to be unlocked with playtime. new seasonal content is spread out across the months to create multiple content drops, the battlepass mostly requires weekly challenges to get to the end so players are incentivized to play, or at least log-in to reroll undesirable challenges, once a week.

[modern bobcat]

SM2 is a live service game but it hides behind "Season" packs

Season 1 was just some dogshit skins

[obtuse oak]

the developer deliberately tries to create an "always-on" bond between the player and the game.

[modern bobcat]

and all the live service content was "free to play"

[obtuse oak]

helldivers 2 is also a live service.

[drowsy lynx]

Any game with seasons is a live service game imo

[modern bobcat]

less F2P than DeepRock but close at least

[modern bobcat]

Yeh but the "seasons" in Sm2 is just cosmetic release cycles

nothing related to gameplay or maps/missions

[obtuse oak]

darktide is, in their own words but also in reality, "almost like" a live service. they have a regular update schedule and they want players to come back every quarter, but fatshark has also been content to watch players leave during the content droughts. a real live service has no "drought" or downtime -- it always gives you reasons or creates incentives to play.

[modern bobcat]

I recall they said something about this early on though

explicitly not being live service

maybe I'm misremembering

[obtuse oak]

iirc the phrasing was that they wanted to have a more "evolving" game, "almost like a live service". and almost, but not quite, is pretty accurate.

they're trying to be more live service-y with the monthly events but it's pretty barebones compared to the big dogs.

[modern bobcat]

Oh no, I have misremembered

“Darktide has been designed as a live-service game from the very beginning, and Magnuson believes that it will be a more dynamic and replayable game because of it. He explains that the team took a modular approach to everything from VO to level design so that elements could be added, removed, and rearranged easily.”

[amber delta]

unc memory

[modern bobcat]

from 2022

They said the opposite

[twin flower]

Whats VO

[modern bobcat]

voice over

[nimble salmon]

VO memes

[thin wagon]

Vo mama

[nimble salmon]

Don’t you know him?

[twin flower]

Nope

[obtuse oak]

"Darktide's storyline and missions will expand and develop after launch, almost as a live service" - Edge magazine, issue 372

[modern bobcat]

“Warhammer 40k: Darktide will have a character creator for players to customise their inquisitorial fighters, and its “storyline and missions will expand and develop after launch, almost as a live service”, developer Fatshark told Edge Magazine’s Alex Wiltshire in an interview published in Edge issue 372 this week.”

Yeh

From a different dev

[obtuse oak]

Magnuson may believe that this is a live service, but the dev is right in this instance.

[twin flower]

How far has the story progressed from when the game came out tho

[obtuse oak]

they're not live enough

[modern bobcat]

Anyway "Games as a Service" or "Live Service Games" are usually a scam

designed to milk yearly subs

[thick coyote]

About 2 months

[tacit geode]

I believe their exact words were "If people come back to play when we update the game then we're happy"

[amber delta]

still waiting for dark communion continuation

[obtuse oak]

mhm

[tacit geode]

Rocks fall the three die

There's a reason they make new bling for major updates lmao

[thick coyote]

Somehow Rodin has returned

[tacit geode]

Speaking of new bling soon

[obtuse oak]

which I'm fine with, I have regularly taken breaks from darktide to play other games without feeling like I've missed anything

[thin wagon]

Next week right?

[obtuse oak]

and I like that feeling. I like that it doesn't feel like a job to keep up with.

[outer jasper]

I wish darktide was real

[tacit geode]

That'll be reused stuff there's probably (definately) an update next month

So new 2900 set

[modern bobcat]

this is why I uninstalled Helldivers 2 early

[tired inlet]

Every now and then I get a hankerin' to start another Total War campaign knowing full well it will need about 200 hours.

[modern bobcat]

and Space Marine 2 around patch 7

[amber delta]

I uninstalled sm2 after finishing campaign and doing like 3 coop missions

[nimble salmon]

I just bought it

[tired inlet]

but I've also taken entire seasons off from Fallout76 and Marvel Rivals because shit was popping off here like when Hive Scum came out or when Helldivers 2 (as it is now) with their custom campaign

[modern bobcat]

When Saber introduced the change that meant you had to relevel every character from 0-25 then reset 5x to unlock every prestige rank perk

[obtuse oak]

I stopped playing shortly after it came out and then I started it back up the other day and seeing all the warbonds I missed out on, and the INCREDIBLE grind (or expense) it represents to get all of that stuff, made me turn it right back off lol

[modern bobcat]

they were basically saying fuck you to their playerbase

"Fuck you we don't respect your time"

[tacit geode]

50% heavy melee damahe tho

[modern bobcat]

I still haven't reinstalled since that patch

[amber delta]

luckily half the warbonds dont add anything useful but yeah it can sting if you come back after a while

[modern bobcat]

I had every character max levelled, every weapon max levelled

[nimble salmon]

Honestly idc as long as the game is fun

[tacit geode]

It's I believe $417 worth of warbonds buT yOU cAn FaRM suPER crEDiTs

[tired inlet]

As someone with prestige IV level 25s in every class besides Sniper (who is Prestige IV rank 19), it's not as bad as you're making it out to be because the prestige perks would only be useful in T5 where you're getting 3x extremis spawns so everyone has to solo extremis and your healthpool is basically zilch

Also level 1 with maxed weapons can absolutely faceroll a T3 Ruthless and gain like 4-5 ranks per match because you're doing so much damage and still parry/dodge almost everything

[modern bobcat]

SM2 on ABSOLUTE was not fun a lot of the time unfortunately

[tacit geode]

And shop items

[thin wagon]

Hopefully they announce what the new character is

[modern bobcat]

Australia has a small player base so getting games was difficult, then getting games with competent players even moreso

[zenith pollen]

Why noone told me that finding a havoc lobby that wil accept you is like getting a job?

[tacit geode]

That'll be in May for skulls I bet it's not next update so don't get your hopes up

[nimble salmon]

Haven’t even thought of touching the game because of the price and playerbase

[thin wagon]

Jokes on you I'm hopemaxxing

[modern bobcat]

I 100%ed the game, and the ordeals, and the classes before patch 7. I aint doing it a second time

[obtuse oak]

eh, the prestige perks felt more like "okay we added some stuff for you giganerds who finished the grind already to continue to work towards". not nearly as must-have for the fun to keep flowing as, say, new weapons and gadgets. HD2 locks almost all of its new gameplay content behind the warbond grind and that's just ridiculous imo.

[amber delta]

it is, but playerbase likes it because "you can grind it for free"

[obtuse oak]

people who continously kept playing HD2 don't see the problem because they have enough SC to keep up with everything

[amber delta]

which, while true, is absurd

[obtuse oak]

so

the live service works

when you drink the kool-aid, it seems cool

[tired inlet]

if you want prestige perks, they're there; but they're not necessary. I fell out of the PvP stuff because it wasn't like the original SM which I liked a lot more. I can't put my finger on why but the gamefeel was off.

[modern bobcat]

The only winning move is not to play

[tacit geode]

Takes stuff out of warbonds
Starts selling weapons
Starts selling grenades

Mf got boiled like the damn frog lmfaoooo

[modern bobcat]

Poor balance from the start, and hacking crept in quickly

[obtuse oak]

the live service that's currently working on me is BF6

[nimble salmon]

I’ve heard that kool aid is terrible

[modern bobcat]

Assault marine being able to one shot entire teams at spawn exit with a melta bomb was a fucking joke

[obtuse oak]

i got the battlepass and i'm doing the weeklies like a good little piggy lol

[tired inlet]

or they just buy it. There's plenty of discourse on that warbond is worth what based on the weapons or strategems available.

[amber delta]

didnt they add smoke grenade to super store with redacted regiment?

so a grenade that already exists because I own a smoke grenade that looks different???

[obtuse oak]

didn't finish the entirety of the last battlepass but i got pretty close

[tacit geode]

Impact smokes

[amber delta]

that sure is worth 200 supercreds

[tired inlet]

the added complexity vs. SM1 which was just tactical/assault/support could be a factor to it as well. It isn't the maps, the the TTK seemed really small -- too small to react in many regards.

[tacit geode]

Also remember when warbonds came with 3 armour sets. Now it comes with 2 and a 3rd mystery one with the same themeing appears in the shop

Isn't that weird.

[amber delta]

yeah you need to spend more credits for less content

[thick coyote]

Also reminder that the only worthy gas resistant armor is the heavy armor

[tacit geode]

As i said helldivers 2 is a prime example of boiling the frog

[elder merlin]

[tacit geode]

At least Fatshark just fucks us with cosmetics no tricky shit

This one's 2900 FUCK YOU

[drowsy lynx]

Warbonds slowly filling up with vehicle cosmetics too rather than weapons and strategems

[delicate kite]

no

[twin flower]

weird analogy but hmmkay

[modern bobcat]

Depends on the guns as well. Multi-melta is almost one shot kill at close range (made confusing by desync), thunderhammer can be a one shot kill, plasma pistol bulwark can melt you in miliseconds, while bolters and chainswords plink off armour etc

really messy ttk and really bad desync

[delicate kite]

space marine 2 is ass, we need imperial guard game

or

orktide

waaagh

[thick coyote]

Just saying
A game with a comissar accompanied by an Ogryn would go hard

Specially if you go the Titanfall route

[delicate kite]

that sounds more like shrek 1 route

donkey and shrek

[obtuse oak]

Orks vs Tyranids, Tide style

Would go unbelievably hard

[thick coyote]

Which side you on

Shootas, blood and Teef kinda went hard

Even if the game wasn't treating itself seriously

[obtuse oak]

I would say playable Orks

Khorne could also be a good enemy for them

[ancient violet]

Ork classes be like:

"daka" "smackem" "trickem" "BOOM"

[tacit geode]

Hank brings this up because he's been playtesting the ork freeboota class

For darktide 2

[modern bobcat]

Ork Weirdboi

[obtuse oak]

Yeah you could have regular boyz, weirdboyz, mekboyz, flyboyz, kommandos, nobs, all that shit

[thick coyote]

Me and my squig vs the world

[twin flower]

what are the nobs

[amber delta]

who's hoppin on a gretchin squad with me

[obtuse oak]

I know as much about the next class as you do, I'm afraid

[amber delta]

BJH knows its a freeboota, Hank knows as much as BJH, therefore Hank knows next class is freeboota

[obtuse oak]

[tacit geode]

Oh so we both know what it is then I see I see

[modern bobcat]

keep your hands off my nobs

[obtuse oak]

Bigger Orks

[wooden creek]

How cryptic...

[thin wagon]

Team Ratling. Idc what these so called devs say

[feral vessel]

GOOOD MORNING ATOMAA

[obtuse oak]

Derived from the British insult "knobhead"

[thick coyote]

Hear me out

[thin wagon]

Idk

[thick coyote]

You play as some generic soldier

[thin wagon]

That's like my favorite class

[thick coyote]

But you're a spotter for Ratling snipers

You tag something

[delicate kite]

the best insult in history of mankind is probably
' you are dirt undearneath my fingernails' - guard in gothic 1

[thick coyote]

And it gets shot from someone off screen

[feral vessel]

That is pretty good.

I've probably heard better, though.

[thin wagon]

insert avatar shoot that guy meme

Also I am hearing you but I want a Long-las personally. I will be happy with it on Veteran.

[elder merlin]

Doubt

[twin flower]

Gib LasLocks

[feral vessel]

Like that's ever going to happen..

[elder merlin]

At this point i dont even care about the next class, i care more about new weapons for the Ogryn

[twin flower]

We say a lot that wont happen anyway

[thin wagon]

My other guess for new class is a Gun Servitor. Get to mod it out and stuff.

[twin flower]

Ehh

[thin wagon]

Idk what else they could add honestly. Hive Scum was left field enough

[twin flower]

Admech is still out there

[thin wagon]

I doubt I will be disappointed either way. Aribtres and Scum were both excellent

[twin flower]

If they really are basing it off Rogue Trader

[amber delta]

admech, some cold trader archetype, sororita (a bit of a stretch but plausible)

[thin wagon]

Gun serv is aadmech and makes sense for a penalty battalion

[twin flower]

Tech Adept would make more sense than a brainless servo

[amber delta]

no way we are getting playable servitor

[thin wagon]

Tech Adept wouldn't be dispatched to such lowly work for what I know.

Not until well after it was cleared out.

[thick coyote]

Cold Trader would be cool but I have a feeling Fatshark doesn't want xenos weaponry

For some reason

[twin flower]

Something about weapon designs being a pain

[amber delta]

ill pry my rail rifle from hallowette's dead hands

[twin flower]

I feel like they did a really good job on whats already in the game tho

[thin wagon]

Absolutely

[twin flower]

id generally want more weaps but idk 's stance about it

[thin wagon]

With my limited knowledge I just don't know what else they could add without being redundant, besides melta and longlas

[twin flower]

Gib vet their LMG's

[thin wagon]

Vibro swords would be neat

[twin flower]

or the scab gunner hotshots reee

plasma mark that does splash dmg like in rogue traders even reeee

[feral vessel]

"I said, HOT-SHOT."

[thick coyote]

"We hear "

[twin flower]

Wuh

[thick coyote]

adds hotshot blessing to infantry lasgun

[limpid vigil]

do only space marines use thunderclaws?

[twin flower]

I guess so

[amber delta]

as is lightning claws?

[limpid vigil]

oh yeah those

i misremembered the name

[twin flower]

I mix up the lightning claws from the power claws sometimes

[thick coyote]

Watch me power/shock whip🗣️

[amber delta]

well there is IG commander is Dawn of War who has lightning claws

[twin flower]

Huh

I didnt know they had one of those

[amber delta]

I don't know if he is the only instance of human using lightning claws, but if they can use power fists then I don't see why not claws

[limpid vigil]

if not those then i hope we get a difrent fist type weapon for ogryn

and i do not mean the gauntlet

[twin flower]

seeing some minis with liek guard units weapong power fists

but i just thought it was a kitbash

[limpid vigil]

i want brass knuckles and not a fancy grenade launcher

[twin flower]

Elite guards having power fists/claws soudns dope tho

[amber delta]

power fists are def used in ig

[twin flower]

Ooh

[amber delta]

there are models and rules for thosee

[twin flower]

Interesting

[amber delta]

pls fatshank give vet powerfist

[limpid vigil]

or ogryn brass knuckles

[amber delta]

AND ogryn brass knuckles

[limpid vigil]

oh you could have a mark that is just kitbashed from screws and whatnot and one that is like officialy made

like those spiked brass knuckles and the regular smooth ones

[twin flower]

ogryn with a power fist

[elder merlin]

If i could only get one weapon for the Ogryn this year, it'd be a pair of brass knuckles

I need it

[cosmic burrow]

funny thing is

both brass knuckles and powerfist could be the same weapon family

just different working

shovels for example

[sleek harness]

Ogryn weapon pack DLC

5 dollars

[elder merlin]

I bought the relic weapon pack in Vermintide 2, i'd buy it again in Darktide

One would hope weapons would continue to be free though

Especially with dlc characters being paid and the fomo shop likely making them money

[green beacon]

fat shart should monetize the mission board itself

[elder merlin]

Dont give 'em ideas

[tired inlet]

And TTK wasn't that low in SM1 PvP, There was more cover options as well. Shields were stronger. So when as a tactical, I ran melta + stormbolter (tactical could use 2 primaries), and melta was for the shield, and stormbolter was for covering fire. Even with thunder hammer you had to get two (with jump-in) or three hits on them. There was more time to react and engage the fight, and SM2's lower TTK typically means there's no real time for that and therefore deaths seem random--even chaotic --and there's less chance of "play" in that regard. It's throwing my face into a wall and hoping it goes through.

[dusky tide]

[green beacon]

like how bandai namco monetized essential mechanics like frame data in Tekken 7 fart shart should lock mission select behind a dlc

[modern bobcat]

and SM1 had dreadnought out of the box in pvp lol

I didn't get to play it as much due to poor ping from Australia back then though

[drowsy lynx]

Was that not a dlc?

[cosmic burrow]

no

[drowsy lynx]

I played sm1 pvp on launch and they didn't add the dread pvp until I had lost interest in the game lol

[tired inlet]

That was super late-game though and I had already moved on

Mostly because in 2006 I enlisted in the Military and was deployed in 07/08/09

[modern bobcat]

I don't own it on Steam so no way to check, iirc

[drowsy lynx]

Looks like it was a $10 dlc introduced post launch

[oblique hatch]

something i've noticed... during morning and lunch people are very good at the game but towards evening everyone is just running it down or first timing the game in auric???

[zenith pollen]

havoc gamemode is such a circus holy

[modern bobcat]

This was 14 years ago at this point, don't recall buying a dlc for it though

I should probably figure out what happened to my copies of SM1 and Dawn of War 1

[zenith pollen]

I cant stand those havoc randoms the audacity they have to rip eachother apart at every occasion

[modern bobcat]

What Havocs are you playing??

[zenith pollen]

20-25

And i know for a fact that people remain the same in higher levels

Cause on steam i used to play 30 - 40

Unless something changed in the comunnity ( i doubt that)

[drowsy lynx]

People in high havoc are generally pretty positive from my experience

It's the 25-33ish crowd that's insufferable

[drowsy lynx]

There's a fancy dow1 remaster on steam currently, worth it imo - they're actually updating it and fixing bugs and stuff

[modern bobcat]

If you're nice, people will usually be nice

It's not worth getting steamed over Havoc

[little marten]

HELLO DARKTIDE DISCORD GENERAL

444

[zenith pollen]

I didint even said a thing im on ps5 i dont have time to chat

[modern bobcat]

Unless people are being utter arseholes

[twin flower]

prolly the latter

[amber delta]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[tired inlet]

reject behavior

[amber delta]

I had beans yesterday

[zenith pollen]

I hope your right now it seems these people just wait to find someone to blame for every minor inconvinence

[amber delta]

[little marten]

Bean it up bro! Niceee

[modern bobcat]

People who are hard stuck climbing up and down, like players stuck on Heresy

[amber delta]

I dont remember last time I had a toxic havoc teammate

[zenith pollen]

People are stuck on heresy?

[modern bobcat]

I deranked a bunch recently because the group I joined exclusively wanted to do Havoc 40 (and they did it poorly)

[drowsy lynx]

I played a 40 with randoms recently and the high level oggy died first, we lasted maybe another 5 mins without him before the team folded. We get out and everyone sticks around, the oggy says "that's just a warm up" and we begin again and run it through with no issues

[bronze wren]

Cringe, how about eternal enlightenment instead

[modern bobcat]

Didn't occur to them to offer to do my Havoc 30 mission and win just so I wouldn't derank

[floral dragon]

I played havoc for the first time yesterday and someone in the team after everyone said GG said "for some" not gg for all lol. And I couldn't tell if he meant me. No one went down tho so I want to assume he meant the one player who split off a lot but even that person never needed rescuing

[modern bobcat]

but I just ate it and climbed back up

[drowsy lynx]

Love when the team sees a failure and knows it's an exception and believes the team can do it without getting rng fucked so hard by the director

[modern bobcat]

this would be ideal usually

I went into a random Havoc 40 the other day and surprisingly carried (which I never do) most of the game, but I think two of the players were throwing at the end just to troll

Or they might just have been boosted and bad

[zenith pollen]

I had a game now and the director went to town on us twins and a chaos spawn and a massive horde 2 of us died almost immidietly and me and ogryn had a last stand while those other 2 left and we died and i stayed till the end only for him to say i should stick to malice

It was a lost game anyway since those other 2 left

And i had a plan how to pull us out from this situation but the other 2 left so yeah we fucked

[tired inlet]

so what you're seeing are adults who work 2nd shift (or Europeans?) vs. children and students who play after school or extremely downtrodden adults playing after work/family and completely drained by the day

People gettin' their reps in before they start their job vs. people gettin' their reps in after the job finished them.

[zenith pollen]

I have a stealth ability on veteran and there was that place where teammates respawn nearby if i could last 20 seconds we would win this BUT no they had to leave

[oblique hatch]

you queue up auric maelstrom after an exhausting day?

[twin flower]

Not that hard I dont think

Auric should be the only diff you play after you unlock it

[tired inlet]

I mean, I have but I am a bit more self-introspective so if I can't lead, I get out of the way.

if you ain't first, 'yer last Ricky-Bobby. Shake and Bake!

[gloomy tartan]

Yoooo

[twin flower]

Loooo

[zenith pollen]

True other difficulties become easy

[gloomy tartan]

I like heresy and and havoc

H AND H

[tired inlet]

there will always be people who gettheir 25 maelstrom medal with heresy maelstroms

and that's okie dokie for me

good work

[gloomy tartan]

Damnation is fine too

[zenith pollen]

Also do people see what equipment i use when i ask to join? Might be the reason why it takes me 20 minutes to get accepted

[gloomy tartan]

But it’s like

[tired inlet]

don't get damnation maelstroms anymore though

[gloomy tartan]

No?

Do they?

[twin flower]

For Havocs? Yeah

[gloomy tartan]

I think it’s just rank

They see your class

Do they see your guns???

[amber delta]

with a mod they can

[tired inlet]

Only see people's equipment on lobby of active inspection; group finder it's class/rank I think

[zenith pollen]

My equipment surely is not that bad

[amber delta]

otherwise they dont see your gear except when in the ready up screen

[tired inlet]

I don't use anything besides grade 500 weapons anyway, but I haven't played a havoc in so long that I'm rank 1 now. Hahaha.

[zenith pollen]

I have a power sword and a double barrel shotgun those cant be bad

[twin flower]

Well Havoc can be absolute cbt at times

[tired inlet]

as a weapon mastery vet?

[visual vortex]

Meta is power sword and the red beam gun

Plasma gun

[rain pilot]

I am gonna

[zenith pollen]

What exacly is a weapon mastery vet?

[tired inlet]

I use the double-barrel on my zealot with their runesword and runnin' shivs on Hive Scum

[gloomy tartan]

This

Usually ppl want ppl who have high ranks

So they focus on adding thrm

[tired inlet]

Deep right-line talent on veteran that gives bonuses for switching between primary/secondary on the fly.

[gloomy tartan]

Cuz low ranks might suck

[zenith pollen]

Yes i have that

[tired inlet]

That's what I suspected; Double-Barrelled on execution stance would seem counterproductive

[zenith pollen]

I have a cloak as my ability

[gloomy tartan]

Shout

[tired inlet]

so you're almost fully invested in right-line

probably kraks though, right?

[twin flower]

Maybe its the Infil thats throwing people off

[tired inlet]

for crushers/monsters?

[gloomy tartan]

Kraks rule

[twin flower]

Its not a very good skill in Havoc I dont think, at least imo

[zenith pollen]

Yes mainly for bosses

[visual vortex]

Lock in

[amber delta]

oh yeah people want vet for the shout

[twin flower]

It just dumps aggro on your team eeverytime you go invis

[amber delta]

youre getting declined because of invis

[gloomy tartan]

The shout pushed mf back

And gives armor

[twin flower]

Shouts just too useful

[zenith pollen]

I use it more as a tool then something to escape

[gloomy tartan]

Some ppl preffer some builds

For they’re team build

Shout is good support

Let’s the killers get a shield to keep killing

Be it tank or dps

[twin flower]

I think the main thing is that it dumps aggro on your team still

thats the biggest downside I see from it

[gloomy tartan]

Cloak is for killing

You can get back stabs etc on bosses

Your damage and self survival focus

[visual vortex]

And people want support over a tool for yourself

[rain pilot]

🦶

[visual vortex]

🦶

[zenith pollen]

On zealot yes but on veteran you get bonuses to backshots not backstabs

[gloomy tartan]

They might allready have dedicated damage dealer a

[gloomy tartan]

Thx for correction

[amber delta]

backshots 🤤

[twin flower]

[gloomy tartan]

I luv shout

Got cadia written all over my gun and clothes

Screaming it in they face

Feeling it in my body

Cadia fucking lives

[rain pilot]

[gloomy tartan]

They will learn it it’s not a choice

[visual vortex]

I chose Incron

Because water

[gloomy tartan]

Chainsword is fun

Hot take

[visual vortex]

I like it

[twin flower]

The humble Chord

[gloomy tartan]

My chain sword has teeth painted on it

That makes it sharper

[visual vortex]

Just dedicate your other weapon or grenade to killing tanks

[twin flower]

What are you an ork

[visual vortex]

No that's logic

[zenith pollen]

I use it when there is a group of gunners / snipers blasting us out of range (or people i play with are blind) or when everyone is down so i pop the ablity and i pick them up

[gloomy tartan]

It’s called Cadias Teeth

[twin flower]

[visual vortex]

Shout has a side ability where you can revive downed people automatically

[gloomy tartan]

They might have others focused on damage dealing and preffer the shouts armor

[visual vortex]

In an AOE area

Plus they get more armor

[gloomy tartan]

This also reduces the shouts aoe size and increases it’s time to recharge

I prefffer no revive shout

[visual vortex]

Still a good tool

[gloomy tartan]

To spam armor shout

Oh yeah

Still a great option

[visual vortex]

And im too lazy to revive people normally

[gloomy tartan]

If you preffer the instant up

[twin flower]

People shit on it tho for some reason lmao

[zenith pollen]

I know but take into consideration the distance i would have to slaughter thru to even get to them

[gloomy tartan]

Because it debuff a you bro

[twin flower]

I guess it reduces uptime for like your neext shout but still

[gloomy tartan]

It also makes the aoe smalwr

It’s a double fuck you

The smaller aoe and longer recharge is very noticeable

VERY noticeable

[visual vortex]

Yeah but revive

🧠

[gloomy tartan]

You can spam armor more

[twin flower]

I guess that's 2 negatives for like an instant revive

But still

[visual vortex]

I dont need armor

[gloomy tartan]

With the armor only you can keep the momentum

[visual vortex]

My bloodlust is my armor

[zenith pollen]

I have 2 stack of invisibilty to use i can pick out 2 people who are separated from eachother

[visual vortex]

Tell them to lock in

[twin flower]

I think its useful in situations where youre like last alive

[gloomy tartan]

I preffer shouting more often bigger aoe

[visual vortex]

🧠

[twin flower]

which isnt uncommon

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah it’s a last ditch thing

It encourages you to shout less if ppl go down constantly

[zenith pollen]

You never know when a a pox burster throws someone far away

[gloomy tartan]

Like you wanna keep the good shout so you don’t shout around downs ppl unless it’s a emergency

[visual vortex]

I use revive shout because i build around saving my team over getting free armor constantly

🧠

[gloomy tartan]

Ah

[twin flower]

I save shout mainly for when the team is low on toughness as well anyway

or when someones in a tight spot and needs some room

[gloomy tartan]

Me too

[twin flower]

i dont usually spam it as often as I should cuz i get moments where like "ah, I should have saved it for this"

[gloomy tartan]

When low tough

[visual vortex]

I use it when people get downed

[gloomy tartan]

Or when a boss rush

I mean I get it back fast

[zenith pollen]

Picking others up in emergancy situations is the main reason why i use it

[gloomy tartan]

Cuz I mark

And when my mark targets die