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Bullying the low levels
Now the mf will know not to take other people’s shit
Oh, still on Fallout 76? 
Thankfully in regards to that
I was the opposite w wilds
Friend bought it for us
Never picked it up again. We had to drag him face first to even a remote point in quests
I mean even if you yourself have fully lead free ammo the other folks at the range likely don't
Yea
Man now I kinda want to play RoN again but ik the people are gonna be genuinely insufferable
I literally picked up bow just to annoy them. Since some say it's shit. Still had to stock on healing to chug so they don't cart all the time.
I still crave some mh
I wanna pogo
depends, if its factory loaded target rounds theres a fair chance
50 50 really
If the lead density doesn't give me cancer something else will anyway
winchester and federal are the big 2 and they are popular range brands
thats the thing. sure if you play bow good you dont get hit as much. but stupid melee will call it out and still have to use so many meds to stay alive because they cant dodge properly. anyone who calls out ranged in a mh game is an idiot
Bow interests me
Its like. An off set for me w charge blade
Charge blade gets the funni saw attack
Oh, I know. I got really petty and basically ended up going full Fatalis set just to glare at then the next time they decided to play it again.
lead free ammo is also made for indoor ranges from my knowledge
i would use better language but idk, i dont want to be super rude 
this is true, you don't wanna be inhaling combustion products regardless lol
FUCK
I've inhaled combustion products for probably the better part of a decade tbh
ye, as i said its very very used in indoor ranges
Willingly infact
Beer and a dart go together like a piss and a fart, as they say.
@fierce cave hey CAS 👉👈 do you perchance have the cultist monarch outfit as a plan and or can make one for me… I accidentally scrapped mine….
Excellent saying lmao
I mean we're all inhaling combustion products if we live near a street anyway
At least you got given it. Too ex to bother tbh. Better to just wait for expansion and deep discounts if I'm just soloing anyway.
I can make them
not me having every plan learned on my xbox save
Can i have one,,,,,
Ill get there one day
it's a hard knock life in tertium
For a price 
i played charge blade a lot when it was first introduced , its pretty fun. im sure they've changed a bit of it since then. but mostly im a greatsword/longsword/bow user
Being?
i live in the woods 
Mwahahahhaa
Uhh?
i like me a hunting horn, granted my only taste of monster hunter was world
havent gotten any of the latest installments 
I might have fed into it with my light bowgun set up. It's full share. I ran 'support' with it.
Glaive, lance, and… hmm
I dabble but. I havent seen anything that suits me otherwise
Finneeeeeeee but now i want wahtever enclave outfits i dont currently have too then
brother lives in the woods with an EV and induction boiler+stove
You and the enclave smh
A girl has her favorite
hunting horn is one ive always wanted to play but never gave it a chance. i do like being support, but im just not a mace person. in any game i prefer swords over blunt 🤷♂️
Wih
slashing off bits of monsters is hella cool so i respect the hussle
just call me tail cutter 😏
Fuce fucking lucky plan pull. I just got the halloween skull mask plan
the blade dino will rue the day it crossed paths with you
its tail is its favorite thing
best part of the monster to cook and eat. god i would actually kill to eat the food in monster hunter
I just didn't like the feel for it. Heck, all the melees. XD
them palicos are insanely talented so im right there with ya
fair enough, i think everything is worth playing, fuck the meta. id rather play with someone who enjoys playing what they're using
I just don't judge. Is just hit monster till dead for most parts anyway and well, not be hit by it.
I used uh, whatever the sword and shield that turned into an axe was when I played MH
Very fun weapon
id play with you if i still played, you have a similar mindest. makes for the best teams
actually i heat my house with a wood stove like a true woodsman
cut my own wood every year
Darktide gen chat I'm very excited for my sword to arrive
I've predicated a lot of my mental health upon this
Switchaxe
That's the bitch
I stopped. Did everything then moved on. Well rare 'pets'.
Charge blade
My beloved
Maybe that was it
See. Switchaxe is cool
But like
guard contests with chargeblade
Fuck ass textbook required combo weapon
I can't remember if it was swace or cb tbh
Switch axe is one weapon
Probably charge blade cause it had 5 lightbulbs or something
Oh yeah chargeblade is great
Saw blade go brrrrrrrrr
Yeah it does
It felt very rewarding to learn
Meanwhile
Insect glaive
Cant hit me if im in the air
Cant escape me if you got wings
Mounted
Yeah it was defo charge blade
I however just pop my funny power states, spam charged sword slashes, then pop SAED's as fast as I can
Because big dopamine nuke swing funny
my favourite part of MH was the part where I didn't finish the game
greatsword #1 always and forever 
Dual blades user through and through
I haven't beaten sunbreak so same
My favorite part was playing for 30 minutes and then never touching it again
I beat one of them cause my former friends told me to and then said "yeah we'll play together when you hit the real game" and then we never did
Very disappointing
Shame
Wait you guys actually played monster hunter rise 
Monster hunter is fun
Yeah it was cool
I don't remember which melee I used the most, only HBG was 1, LBG was 2 and Bow was 3.
Rise is good (now)
Tbh they way over sold it when they said it's "like dark souls"
It had a rough launch cause covid
Shit game invalid opinion
In the sense that you beat bosses, yes.
Fuck rise
That game didnt get me interested in the franchise
Too specifically stylized
Its not actually like souls tho.
Wait part of massive backflip out of attack range then dragonpiercer isn't cool
Son... 😭 🥀 💔
That was basically what happened to me. Except we did play a little and I question how they even got that far.
“Hm. Bosses, swords, dodge. Must be a soulslike”
I only ever tried out MH world and my god the unskippable cutscenes were killing me
Wilds lets you skip iirc
Dude i have a friend who bought me metal gear snake eater and the dialogue is fucking killing me
its a part of the souls design ancestry for sure
I'm reasonably sure that MonHun was one of the first Japanese action games to have a stamina bar for attacks
Rise was neat enough. Haven't played more world yet.
Dark souls is actually a monster hunter like
Mh 1 is 2004
Demons souls is 2009
Dark souls is, ime, drastically more fun than MH
rise wirebug is mega fun
The thing that made me not bother is that it was a Capcom game... And i don't like the artistic direction of Capcom games
it's a Capcom game...
Tbf kings field is from the 90s
Yeah but its funny when people call mh a soulslike
kings field 
Because its inaccurate in like every way
Foolish bug
Demon souls wasnt the first
Why does the save person tell me about fucking godzilla for like 5 minutes straight, what kind of tism does Kojima have
Well, you roll everywhere and can get 1 tapped by random slam.
Mb i get those co fused sometimes
i like baiting monsters to another with stinkmink and do monster on monster battles
I can just play JWE for this
it's actually a valheim-like
Skinning you
KINGSFIELD, ORIGINATOR OF THE MOONLIGHT GREATSWORD!
May we ever be haunted by that damn slab of blue
Valheim is a carpentry game with rpg mechanics
actually, all videogames are shit-likes because all videogames are shit
Is like you are courting death or something.
Ah, you were at my side all along. My true mentor. My guiding moonlight.
Even Garfield Kart?
a stardew-like
Nope
Stardew doesn't even have structural considerations
sure it does
all games are actually dwarf fortress likes.
I can't clip my shack into my partner's house and fuck it all up
Valheim is an awesome game to build a cool ass house and then never play again
Space needed isn't structural.
All fps are Quake likes
Valheim is the game to make a massive hut you accidentally keep burning down
space is structural
they should be
Burning it down sounds like a you problem
You mean every game is like reverse pong, you just don't wanna be hit by the ball.
valheim is the game you build a random dollar general in and leave the persons server forever
I've actually been hooked on valheim lately tbh, it's fun to explore and idm the general loop
Look, game kept saying i was cold
I cant put a campfire on the floor of the house
So i am required to make it aztec style. With wood rather than mud
I call games like Valheim "Hit tree with Rock" genre...
Rust, Arc, Valheim, The Forest... And so on
the combat is actually kinda fun now with the trinkets and adrenaline system they added
valheim should have let you climb onto the branches in the sky. i feel like they could have done way more with the whole game
Moonlight gives me a warm sense of nostalgia tbh, even if I never use it
The trick is a dirt mound in the middle of the house that gets to floor level
valheim scrapping ocean biome 🤮
I like moonlight way more in AC than DS tbh
fighting a kraken or smth would've been lit
alas
I should play Val solo tbh
build a house out of coral
Its always ruined by co op ime
wanna know a game with a great Kraken fight
Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate
Nakarkos my beloved
a game about vikings and cant think of any engaging things to do for seafaring other than transporting iron
I play it with my partner and it's chill but that's a different dynamic to having a server with a bunch of people
Isn't that normal when you round the corner into a suspiciously phallic building.
I thought you were going to say God of War for a moment 💔
hunting serpents is the only other thing really aside from travel and resource running
Three types of builders.
- House builder
- Penis builder
- Jigsaw npc trap builder
Mfs be talking about "villager farm" in minecraft just to show me a concentration camp 
Ah yeah, 3 might be also other player trap builder.
Nah I mean everytime I play co op someone always gets ahead of the tech curve and hands me good weapons and my purpose becomes killing and dying cause I get to skip actual prog
I like the suffering for better things grind in games
Oh, that happens since I tend to get games late cos costs.
People who rush content in survival games kind of ruin the experience
Or I'm just a fresh spawn into a late game world thing.
Because nobody wants to restart.
For this and other reasons i play as an anarcho primitivist in minecraft.
This is my experience, yes. If I'm not apart of the tech curve I lose focus on it tbh.
The grind is a massive part of the fun for me tbh.
If i don't earn the good stuff I also don't care if I lose.it dying
abiotic factor best survival game
I don't like the grind but also feels unfun being dropped into hell.
Kill the industrialists, return to monke
F
Idk, if I get handed good gear I don't value it
I rather it be 'cheaper' to craft.
The red stone society and it's future. By Ted Mobinsky
We really didn't need to know your kink.

I like crispy, but still. In the shower? On a public Discord?
like coated peanuts but m&m brand
i skipped all the shower stuff
eating in the shower is weird no matter the food except maybe an apple
Shower beer
i love a good shower beer
Infinite beer
I can't even remember how much was involved in the val tech grind tbh, the only survival crafter I played extensively was subnautica
Its the only one that really grabbed me
I meant in general.
Or I would just get bored by the early game hit trees and hide in the night thing.
It's not fun holing up in a tiny box for 3 mins AFKing.
Top ten reasons to reason ten tops
Son 😭 I’m crine
Playing elden ring and drinking vodka tbqh
Skav
Playing abiotic factor with my friends and the way we solved this was by just not progressing without each other

Maxine it's 5 am
Gotta time my sleep.
Got an 11a-11p shift tomorrow.
Go to sleep
Its 12pm dumbass
Go to sleep anyways
I've never gotten to coordinate scheduling for a survival game tbh
That's because you aren't American or Brazilian
Dumbass
When she darks all over my tide tell i 40K
Isnt this past your bedtime anyway
Wdym?
12 pm is sleep time
did the team text chat stop working on inventory and pause menu? i thought it used to show but not anymore
Didn't your mama told you that?
Sorry im not Brazilian
Nuh
It just works, I'm the only one that's ever busy so I just host, they can't play if I'm not there and anytime I'm there they're most likely online
Good
I'm implying you're still of the age to have a designated time to sleep
Someone would have robbed you easily
Whoa, what's wrong with brasil
It's 4pm.
Lots of crime and stealing
Its 2:56am here
^
Hey I understand the is not Lfg but would anyone mind helping me and my buddy power level arbites with twin skip?
East Coast baybeeee
Karien
Do not care, pretty women.
I know I'm on EU sleep schedule, but still.
Go to sleep woman
It's 4 PM.
You all too
Oh readt it as AM
Don't have, too ex, probably will hate invasions anyway so eh.
You don't have to play with invasions
Well, it isn't my fault you are far away from us South Americans
Those only happen if you opt into online mode
They finally let you just turn it off?
I mean
No
What do you consider turn it off
They let you turn it on
^
Have we had this conversation before?
Taunters tongue
Pure offline me vs AI.
This is an option in literally every souls game
Just don't use the finger paste
I disconnect my Xbox from internet for elden right
/humanity/whatever they call it in that one
You can manually set the games to offline in the menu for all of them right
Only for consoles.
Yes/you can also just not pop the item that says "i want co op/invasions on"
What's wrong with playing Elden Ring with internet
Then what's the point
Never had it for the PC versions.
Does it make it lag or something?
No
There are two(?) fights that pull builds from real people
So you run the risk of encountering some goofy bullshit someone cooked up
Fia's champions
Right, ty
I am, would you like to fight someone with end game stuff but low enough that you meet them with barely any real stuff?
What do you mean by low
Are they short?
I thought you were talking about another kind of twink
Or whatever they use to matchmake in that.
You should let them cook
Idea is to beat on new players for funny.
You might even appear on one of thoses complications where the guy tries weak builds and still wins
I've played my entire playthrough for prog offline fwiw
wuh now?
Outside of a few invasions/sending my summon sign out
Think the MMO ver of twinking.
Does twinking even work that well in elden ring
Twinks in Elden Ring vs twinks in real life:
So is it just the case that not many people play Havoc, or is it just cus I've never done Havoc before?
If you're good enough to pull it off but it's not as easy as like, ds1
The most I can think of is late game talismans and upgraded weapons
Cause you can't use anything cool cause stat requirements and a shitty endurance
I have to list my own party, but I'm doubtful anyone will join. I requested to join 3 other parties and each of them denied me.
Depends on server. Some are dead.
This is why I just play my level 400 colosseum
anyone know if the impact node on heavy hitter reaches any stagger breakpoints on any weapons? can't tell if it makes a difference on the slab shield
Everyone is equal under that banner
You get gated if not 1k lvl, not havoc 40, not having a meta loadout and not the class they want.
Havoc players depend on your profile cosmetics to know if you are good or not
Also your havoc level
is the hp bar above enemy's a mod?
The H40 True Survivor will die first every single time
If you have none of theses you will look like a a new player trying havoc for the first time
Still can be enough to bash in confused newer players.
Like, one sided.
I mean portrait, the title means nothing
Sleep is not for women
Then ragequit
Mods or you are seeing it in the test room where they show up
Because women are woke
At that point you're just skill gapping them anyway
You disgust me
Get out of my sight
bully new players
Never use those titles.
Oh
You probably would've won that fight without the +25 heavy longsword
ok
I struggle to call this anything more than a skill issue, you can kick the ass of someone 100 levels higher than you with a level 1 sword if you can dodge
You're gonna win regardless
Are you saying that you are a woman?
I refuse to interact with non-woke individuals
Because you just mentioned not sleeping
Yeah, but you get easy wins rather than fighting your actual weight class. Some people are like that.
Son 😭 I’m crine
Yeah we had this convo before
Also
You can play souls games effectively offline
I'm sure
Time is a flat circle and all
Elden Ring pvp is level based, you won't get invaded by anyone more than a couple levels above you
If you don't use the "I want to pvp/summon item"
twink mmo? 
Nah I've have this exact convo with Karien
Yeah I was agreeing
Every man's dream
Still no clue what thinking means in this context
Time also happens to be a flat circle
It means an alt you fed high lvl gear to.
Especially here
My b, I'm pretty intoxicated
So what if they just beat the game level 1 like so many people do?

Like a smurf?
Yeah. People just call it twinking in MMOs.
Twink or smurf, yeah
Twink smurfs when
Also also, you can't drop items that are leveled in elden Ring, it won't show up if you aren't capable of doing it yourself
Such a twinkler, using high level armor while level 10
I can try and drop my level 1 char a max level sword but it won't show up
You can but it's a royal pain in the ass
You need to go through a bunch of tiered characters
The issue with attempting something like that in elden ring is low level people with summons active probably have a much higher leveled friend in with them
Or else they wouldn't have the item active
That too, I ended up playing it co op with my buddy who was like level 300 at the time
Watching him shit stomp any invades was fun
They do? 
Probably not
Karien could be crazy
What did the twinks ever do to you
Beat me up with end game gear while level 1
Tbh even then their high level friends get gimped cause it scales them down
Ass pain
Such a twinkler
Twinks make you crazy? 
Idk souls games can all be played pure single-player
Crazy for twinks
I still can't see this being an issue, the greatsword you get from killing the very first dude you see is like second to legendary armaments lmfao
Lordsword greatsword goes hard
The idea is like, rather not PvP but you know how ppl will always push for an advantage to beat others. (Also had to deal with things burning. Was too focused and forgot water evaporates so the steamer went dry.)
We love increased crit dmg
I'll also just mention elden Ring pvp is optional, you don't get invaded if you don't have a co op companion
You can look it up.
(or use taunters tongue)
You're not obligated to PvP in any souls game except possibly Ds2
Cause ds2 popping a humanity is what gives you your full hp bar back
My tongue was cut off
Pvp tends to land in "I've beaten the game 3 times now it's time to beat other people"
Wonder how that came about
"I got this item I wanna give my twink"
Did you try the humanity drug?
Is that why you're so quiet

No clue, just is. Likely because smoll baby weak char with end game or just boosted gear.
I like getting invaded because free runes
Which is still dumb. Gimping people or forcing them to suffer invasions suck.
You can still disconnect your game from network
Yk my stance on this tbf, weve had this convo before
Ds2 has weird systems
Damm whore
Turn your devices internet off
Open game and load character
Turn it back on
Pulling the plug is still annoying.
Runing it
Is it more annoying than invasions
literally as long as you don't use a finger paste in er you won't be invaded
You don't have to pull a plug
Same goes for ds1 and 3
Can be, you could be doing other things that require internet. Or achievements if that matters.
See above
I literally said you can turn it back on
Some games require you to restart if you lose connection for whatever reason.
Ds isnt one of them
(Elden ring is, it'll kick you to main menu if your connection drops)
That's time to reconnect. It's like I said, there's other Soulslike that doesn't interwine PvP. I'll just play those instead.
You're still allowed to play it entirely without connection/without being invaded while connected
You just press the button then alt tab
Genuinely you just don't get how DS works
Literally
The item that specifically states it makes you invadeable
Pvp in DS1/3/ER/BB is tied to using the item that says "i want to interact with the online mode now"
Dunno, I just got red people in my game straight one shotting back when I played it.
That changes nothing about the game when active except allowing other players in
Which one
1 og and 2 scholar of the sins edition.
Yeah
We talked about this
You didn't know how 1 worked
And 2 is weird and has weird systems
It was patchwork from what people said so. Many messed up and unfinished stuff.
Yeah well
Hm
You're unfairly judging a game based off bad info
Which is incorrect.
You genuinely never have to interact with pvp/summons in the games unless you opt to outside of 2 which has many unpopular systems even amongst people who like the games.
Or you want specific covenant items
Which are also niche
Still annoying if you like collecting, I would assume.
And thats only for dark souls
You can get those in elden ring via npc invasion
Depends on how much you care ig
🍔
Most of the "i want to interact with other players" gained items are also for that set of play
Like the bloody finger in ER strictly benefits invasions
Havoc is awesome.
And you get it by invading
What is my life...
The only pve gained items for pvp are like, the ds2 invisible weapons
Watching Bricky streams while thinking about Darktide
While bricced up?
Theres the dark moon stuff in ds1 i think
NPC invasions are just PvE so not really an issue. I guess just jaded from trying to play 2 to constant invasions because but thou must or suffer more.
I have no real idea I just googled it
You can get souvenirs of reprisal entirely through pve
You can farm them in painted world
Or through snuggly iirc
Yeah I just skimmed the wiki page
Ik because I pve farmed them in ds1 when it was very dead
Oh no I'm just slightly stupid I am staring at the "can be farmed from harpies" bit right now
Generally the only things you get from pvp are things youd want to pvp more
I should get ds3
Or for fashion, I guess.
What fashion are you concerned about that requires pvp
Lol, all the different class channels are very on brand. Vets are talking about different weapons, Zealots are talking about eating nuclear crayons or some shit, Psykers are talking about geometry, Ogryn is talking about littluns, Arbites are talking about hitting people while not getting hit and Hivescum are talking about different types of ammo that kill better than others.
Dark souls 1 and 3: im scared of every fkn corner and some asshat just made things worse
Ds2: im having a wonderful time exploring, oh hey a dude invaded neat
Elden ring: yeah yeah we bros beatin on some enemies yeah ye- johnny? Johnny whered you go?
Zealot is the actually good general chat
Who's Johny
fatshark come back I want an update 

The obese fish shall not return
Update better include a Hellgun......

Prolly not 
Elden ring pvp
Invasions can only happen when you have a party up, usually someone gets nuked bc “op build combo”
Told ya'll I'm dying on this hill...
fatshark was killed in a driveby
Missus was the shooter
Now it's PlumpSquid
Ime people do not level vigor enough in ER, I literally one shot 2 hosts earlier today cause of it
Why have you done this 
They nerfed a lot but. Its still wild west if you are exploring rather than waiting for duel to happen
Honestly don't remember. Brain just shoves most of things I stopped bothering out to make room for new things unless it clicks to a negative or highly positive emotion.
Low vigor is a problem too ngl
I promise you almost nothing is predicated on actually dealing with other people unless it benefits dealing with other people more in ER and most souls games. Normally there is a way to farm anything in PvE mode because FS understands people like you who do not want to interact with the online/cannot interact with the online exist.
Early zones i might be rocking 20 if im lucky
20vig, chosen weapon stats at 26, 20 end
I have 35 vigor/20 end/40 dex rn and I'm level uhhh 72
Yeah no my souls experience was entirely offline. Largely bc i didnt HAVE internet af the time

leveling vigor is a sign of cowardice and should be punishable by deathh
I know it's more of a chore though to entice PvP for most parts.
Wait...are we talking Elden Ring now?
scripted npc invaders was always goofy
Yes
Love Souls games. Just started another ER run last week
they usually hit way harder than actual players
scythe guy in the roundtable hold
So. The online only factions? They typically had like. 1 enemy that dropped their token
And. Yes. It was indeed a chore. I never actually did those farms
actual real deal noob trap
Same, been very slow playing ER
It just feels like, you do this our way or we won't respect your time.
There are a lot of items to boost drop chances that I'm entirely sure you did not know existed tbqh
It's likely hidden or on some NPC since not really the murder hobo type.
Or yk, in the world. Like always.
I started a new er run today and the randomizer (a coin and a d4) have decided i am playing Dex/int
You are woefully unaware of how these games work and you keep judging them harshly.
Ds2 had drop rate stuff out the cheeks
Made it very easy to pick up stuff
They all do
Most of them even have a stat tied to it you can level
If you really want all the drops ever
Hidden can just be on the world in an out of place place. But still, a 5% is still a 5%. You can get 10 in 10 kills or 0 in 100 kills.
Said stat is also where they put all the fun spells
Okay
If you don't want to like the games you don't have to
But your judgements come from a place of ignorance
This isn't anywhere near a souls specific problem
Every single complaint you have about them is discreditable
If you told me you simply didn't like them I wouldn't care
But you're actively judging my favorite game series from a place of sheer ignorance.
Ds1 had humanity
But. That allowed more invades.
Ds3 had a stat
They all had rings, at least a helmet. A consumable? I only remember bird feet in er? Ds2 had a whole armor set
Solid vs liquid humanity were different
You could have liquid humanity to boost drop rates without beoming online in ds1
Solid humanity is what made you online
Otherwise known as having the white outline on the numbers
It could be on more enemies for one. But nope, usually just one single thing on a low rate.
Armor sets+rings+consumables have boosted drop rates across the entire souls series
On private 1000x servers.
Ds2 sunlight tokens were the WORST farm i saw
So. That was the main thing that turned me off of it
Rat covenant just need a certain two bosses farmed
+maybe even a stat
Like Arcane in ER
Boosts drop rates at a 1:1 value with level
That. Doesnt. Oh i see
Still doesn’t sound right
I promise you it is if you want to go wikidive it, I've been playing ds1 for approximately 14 years atp
So any quest drop is guaranteed. And only really rare stuff (usually for show) is 'rare'.
Off to the tube of you i retreat
I need to work

The alt server is 2500 X so, fashion is more on that one. Like an ultra rare thing is on a 25% drop rate.
I'm willing to bet you don't even know what the rare spawns are in souls vs what you will find on a specified drop location
Which is fine
But you're judging them like everything has a drop rate with the misunderstanding you had to be online to farm them
You asked for MMOs, I said I played private because public runs on sub payment.
Oh, no, just the you PvP or fight one mob for a 5% chance they might drop the thing you need to offer.
Might be higher, might be lower, but yeah.
For shit you don't want anyway. Because you don't know what it does. Because the pvp drops outside rare exception are not useful unless you want to pvp more.
Because you will continue judging the games with no basis of actual understanding of them.
is warp resistance or defense the dump stat on force sword
Idk if this is ragebait or actual ignorance tbqh
What are we arguing about
Warp res
Karien hates souls games but also fundamentally doesn't understand how they work
And it pisses me off
What do they not understand
Drop rates, online requirements, a couple of other things

I've been having this debate with my brother, maybe people with more lore knowledge want to give their opinion. Just a hypothetical lore debate (to the death)
I think for an end game/final boss, a traitor Spacemarine would be a good boss. My brother says taking a Spacemarine (And considering we're against nurgle, a Plaguemarine) is way beyond the ability of 4 rejects.
But what I'm saying is that maybe as a multi stage boss, using the environment, during multiple missions, it's lore friendly and mechanically interesting.
I get what he says tho. However we both want to know, in the actual lore, have there been instances of a small number (Not necessarily 4) non SM beat a single marine?
I should look it up, I just know I got tired trying my luck for something but never seemed to want to drop. Then again, it once took me 1 and a half year to get a 2.5% drop grinding at least 4 hours a day.
They don't seem to understand that outside of ds2 you have no obligation to play online and have previously stated that they need to be online to have better farm rates which is a fundamental misunderstanding of how DS1 humanity works
In what
The rejects could definitely kill a random unnamed CSM
We would dunk a marine so incredibly hard
I used to play AQW. You then need to find a whale to turn in that 2.5% drop for the weapons.
But marines are also not good for non marine plots
Damn... everyone is so ready to take on a freaking plague marine 🤣
And the game won't get one because the devs don't want to add them
A plague ogryn would beat the piss out of a normal marine
No I think we'd get owned by a plague marine tbh
Honestly one thing that I REALLY love about DT is that it's NOT ABOUT THE FREAKING MARINES
IM TIRED OF SEEING MARINES EVERYWHERE
Alright, I don't play mmos. I do play souls games, I have since I was a wee little lad and ik they don't do that to you.
You and everyone who isn't a marines fan
I prefer playing underdogs than a power fantasy
(Also why can't I use emoji reactions??)
I literally had a build where I just had to just hit 1 to target the boss and 3 to lifesteal.
IKR
GTFO with that coward armor.
But for rejects vs a marine it wouldn't even be funny
Veteran with plasma, power sword, and kraks
Zealot with thunder hammer or relic blade and shroudfield
Psyker
Ogryn
you need the role that makes your name red, chat a bit more and it'll be given to you automatically
FS already mentioned there wont be Spaace marines of any kind 
Tnx friend.
Afaik that is
Both can be cool but power fantasy doesn't really work for this type of game
Cos it took me so long I started to have to solo.
Btw speaking of underdogs is GTFO fun?
Ok that's actually good.
Ngl I'd LOVE to see their art team make and AMAZING bloated plague marine, but it's a slippery slope. Add one marine and it becomes yet another SM game.
Exactly. A space marine would be such a weird addition
Me and some friends are gonna try it out tomorrow
I love GTFO
it's a bit of a bull buster sometimes but it's a pretty good co-op game
Well, I would hope not. Not fun searching for someone who bought the real money pet to turn it in.
Jurgen and Cain have taken down multiple CSMs
I think in the Gaunt books they've also won a 1v4
It's more of a wishful thinking at this point
The art is so great that I wans to see FS make EVERYTHING 40K (And bring Jasper along)
Yep, that was their exact reasoning as well iirc
Ok but that's Cain tho
He's the goat
He fails upwards
it's an incredibly slow game but like in a way that's good since you'll be spending the vast majority of it tense hoping either you or your friends don't fuck up and wake up a freak
Would be sick to even just see one tho
dont have to outright fight it maybe
but yeah its unlikely
Yea those are extraordinary.
I mean if we're 100% lore accurate the presence of a plaguemarine gives you 100 unkown STDs
I play mmos specifically when someone asks me to but they're not a genre I seek out of my own volition post swtors swan song tbqh.
we can't fight a csm, but we could fight 18 nurglings stuffed into death guard armour
Space Aids 
I wouldn't hate to see a CSM in this game as I'm sure FS could make it rad as fuck but it's definitely not a necessary addition
Lmao
I'd rather see a Sentinel be added as a boss than a CSM
So would being near a plague ogryn, a beast of nurgle, or the straight up plague tree
That'd be funny for a Halloween event
I don't know anything about WH40K lore, but I would love to see a map where the boss is too powerful to defeat, and the goal is to do tasks while trying to escape certain death in different ways
That's cool
True.
I was thinking if they give the VT treatment, maybe in a few years (half a decade) as a super hard event or something
(Again, wishful thinking just want to see FS do their magic)
Get'd Hadron'd
True.
And the poxwalkers themselves even.
I still wouldn't for most part unless they are paying the subs. F2P usually feel like ass to encourage whaling.
Read the final encounter of the Darktide supplement for Wrath and Glory
Yea theoritcally shouldnt even be able to get near a burgle lorewise
That could be cool
but here we are
I'd love to see a possessed combat servitor miniboss and a chaos psyker boss
Idk what it'd be tho
we absolutely could kill a CSM without it really being that much of a stretch and fat shark absolutely could design an interesting boss around it but we already know that's not something they're going to do and i find it hard to see how it'd fit into the narrative
also, psyker specials and elites
Maybe the leader of the cult of admonition
if anything us just fighting a more powerful daemon of nurgle later down the line makes more sense
Not an STD if its not sexually transmitted
I completely agree with you, in the case f2p is even the option for most of them.

I've wanted this for awhile
one plaguebearer
Honestly a new psyker class could be cool too
Nope
That's exactly what I was thinking
Like the train mission (The train mission is AMAZING)
Plague Marines are slow af. So maybe you gotta escape from him in a couple of missions, then idk do a few missions to set up your defences, and then in sort of a "wave defence" missions you defeat him
Nuh uh
Have them be a biomancer who works for the inquisition like Heinrix
Please no
A blank maybe?
Not another psyker
But why another psyker tho
And privates are becoming harder to find since you know you need the server portion to host and is usually for only a few if they aren't C&D or sued off the net.
Terrible idea
Guy who hates fun award

nurgle fart tornado GOOOO
psyker with a dog
Nurgle's love is transmitted via scent and sight. You obviously don't know how love works
THROW THE REJECTS OFF THE EDGE OF THE MAP GO GO GO GO
Because I like the idea of playing as a biomancer
Psyker is the vessel for almost every balance problem in the entire game
Yeah and they're fun
biomancer? 
And if you want biomancy just ask for Iron Arm as a melee weapon
Cause it'd be funny
They're like blood benders if you've seen ATLA
They can fuck with your body
Show an ogryn what an actual fist fight looks like
Make your eyes melt and shit
We have those in 40k?
Some are obvious limited lvl trials. Some are just, you need to pay to upgrade past a point which you need to or you do peashooter damage.

Meh who cares about fun in PVE. Imo it does not matter. make everyone OP
It matters because if you steamroll everything suddenly the game isn't very enjoyable
they were getting on my nerves
biomancers are more bio energy than blood
I wanna play like the necromancer from Diablo 3 and blow up corpses to use as weapons
If i wanted to wipe everything with a look I would go play Warframe
but it kind of depends
I want to actually be challenged by Darktide
the average biomancer is just a really bored tzimisce
Its what makes it fun for me
Well, true.
But isn't it why they added the end game difficult levels (Idk I still struggle with difficulty 4 I'm trash)
i need to get back to playing warframe
Inf cleave, check
Absurdly power crept, check
It really is only missing piss toughness for trifecta

Depends on person. Some like a challenge, others just want powerfantasy on all diffs.
These are arbitrator mains catachan, it's a lost cause
There's 8 unvaulted prime frames rn
For about a month
Also for next DLC ratlings would be fun.
Or some other abhumans.
i know, i just cant get myself to play
Ratlings will never happen but I agree on abhumans
Appealing to I must be broken in the hardest difficulty folk will lead to another hd2 situation where those of us who enjoy challenge will be pushes away
Ratlings are an explicit no
i just want the beastmen back in 40k
Some still want harder. Is why we get abdolute bs modifiers now.
Too short
Why not? Has FS said so? Or any lore reasons?
FS said so
fat shark doesn't wanna do short characters
Also ratlings are rare
How so?
Height problems
well the rarity of an abhuman doesn't have to factor into it
Too short
The maps aren't designed around small characters
Aaahhh
Short. Right. Makes sense
Look at all the 3 foot railings and crate piles
And imagine playing in that space
As a sniper
Who can't see over the railings
not a problem
I remember a video about how difficult it was basically remaking everything for Ogryns.
Suppose not
ratling on stilts
ratlings on heels
Two ratlings in a trench coat then
Oh, I get it. Just explaining. Most avg ppl just want to win everything. Some even live on a winning is the only thing that matters.
longlas go through carapace
this
shoot crusher in brain crusher fall over crusher flatten ratling into pancake
pancake mmmmm
The humble Las Fusil:
I want a tiny bit of challenge, but I just wanna stomp heretics with Bros mindlessly
Ratlings also aren't known for their shining skill in melee
This game is totally mindless for me atp
I can just play it on autopilot
And that's malice in a nutshell... or havoc 1-10.
ratling qte where you climb up the back of a crusher and defeat each limb's health bar individually before doing a necksnap
ratlings are known for being 'good' cooks though so i think a ratling with a meat cleaver and a dream would be fine
Since I only play with one other person (My brother) we can play mindless up until Heresy.
Me and my friend will bullshit about power scaling while playing it
only slightly cuts back in for trappers
So heresy and havoc 11 to 15.
I can play mindlessly in auric
Its 11-20
I have like 30 days of play time between this and VT2
Have not played havoc
I got the game when it came out. But we just started playing regularly recently
It's engrained into my mind
Yes, but they want a slight challenge. 11 is diff 4 ++.
fatshack would never >: , unless they are planning on suprising me
oh shit its my birthday
Havoc low-key is not fun imo
Happy 68th birthday bro
my body has been trained to play this game without me actually having to divert much brain power to it
Too grindy?
one more year... one more and ill be perfect
Havoc would be fun if we didn't have bullcrap keystone modifiers and we chose our experience
Like Deeds in vt2
Rotten armor is bad
Maybe past might be a little too hard? I dunno. Just not 21+ anyway.
My brain is used so little when playing this game I can take shrooms and smoke fat drinks and still play at an acceptable level
It's automatic
the only time i have to think is if i'm the only one left alive and it's like even then
my last auric maelstorm i was eating a sammich while playing ogryn
BS modifiers while being gimped and enemies buffed.
Ah
havoc is just kind of restrictive with what builds actually work within it
That and it's just not fun to get good at it
Players when the intentionally super hard difficulty is super hard
Totally not a power fantasy if you are looking for that.
depending on the modifiers you're railroaded into playing a few kinda boring setups
I understand that
I'm just saying I don't think it's fun
based, it is a meditative process 😌
Yeah thats fine
🤣 Yea people generally want to complete/do everything.
Not me tho. But I get it
I like how the moment someone gets netted, a flamer just magically appears
booted up the game, and thought for a second they added a space marine
I just like making fun of people who complain about havoc being bs or unfair
The worst part is forced builds unless you are the top 0.001%.
that's a fat shark employee taking control of the game director to fuck you over it happens
I get it
I'm too old to care about checking what the meta is and how to cheese
I just want to pick whatever looks cool and play
fat shark doesn't release very many updates because 80% of their corporate budget goes towards a staff of a few thousand people who watch over games and decide at random to fuck them over
Yeah I feel the same way about basically every game I play
Netters and hounds together. Run enders
If a fight or game mode requires a fuck ton of optimizing then it isn't for me
I hate being a meta slave
I'm not old tho
The days of reading guides and grinding are so over for me
Honestly? Just do 1x 25 and mess around in lower havocs for the other parts of the outfit. Not worth the stress to most.
its magical like a unicorn
Well that's still around for me cause I play Warframe
depends entirely on your skill lvl, no meta slaving needed https://youtu.be/xoNUZjyFuOM 😌
Exactly.
Altho since it's only me (Vet) and brother (ogryn) sometimes it's difficult to deal with AI or some... less than ideal randoms.
But yea. CompStomp for fun (And wanna hug Ogryn when he says SORRY SAAAAAH)
Maaaan did the oberon rework killed any interest i had left for warframe, that passive is so boring
About 5 minutes ago I also said that I don't like the game mode enough to get good at it
Players when the intentionally super hard difficulty is literally crashing the game cause fs doesn't know how to make modifiers function on their own engine
THE STARE 😱
"meta this, meta that, have you ever meta bitch before"
Well, the top players can do whatever. The avg are pushed to more meta builds.
I still rather choose what modifiers to play rather than the crap we got
Let me tailor my suffering Fatshark
I'm sure I could get good enough to play it but I just don't want to dedicate that time to it
I tried playing WF like 4 times. Since it came out long ago... never managed. AMAZING gameplay but holy shit it's complicated.
that is true
Ok actual technical issues is fair game but thats a more recent development
I've played a few mmos but I don't think I've been required to pay to not do that, idk. Wildstar, Swtor, WoW mainly.
(For this time)
It happens. The bots are... kinda challenged.
it would be incredibly funny to be able to select your modifiers like hive busters on gears 5
Yeah it's a very confusing game if you don't have an experienced friend to help you out
Yea and withouth a Zealot and Psycher it's difficult
turn everything on
Just open your lobby if you're having trouble
Yea. But more importantly, patience and dedication. In my early 20s maybe. Now? Nah
honestly, probably after i get every classed mastered, i might go back to the frame. it has a lot more replayability
Definitely need that too
I have 1000 hours on it over the course of 6 years
Oh, those are 'F2P' types. You have to sub or pay or risk breaking hard to grind and upgrade gear or they lock the later upgraders behind the sub wall.
What'd they change?
I never really played Oberon
I have his prime but I never use it
I looking for a team for this achievement On Overwatch
As the Sharpshooter, complete a Mission on Malice Threat or higher without taking any
Someone pls help lol
WoW requires money, swtor really would prefer it if you pay them or you suffer ime. Wildstar is simply dead lol.
Not really, but I can see why anyway. Overwhelmed while bots hit for nothing.
No, as in the paywalled upgrade thing.
Artificer gear iirc?
You find those in Chinesium MMOs.
Yeah no, I don't play those for a reason lol
And in some bosses (The Twins) bots dont even spawn in
Imma. Nightreign
Do some deeps
When i get home
If some sumbitch dont drag me elsewhere
I know, just know they are like that lul.
Cos the lift cutscene breaks them or so.
Good luck
I say ill do deeps
Ill probably do gladius on nun
Hope i dont get lobotomites
I think i finished every everdark boss earlier today
All 4 of his main abilities got huge buffs and changes that makes him into a better armor sharing chad
BUT THE PASSIVE CONFLICTS WITH 2/4 OF HIS KIST
What it does: on health orb pickup, You and allies in affinity range gain a stack of "Rigtheous negation" up to 3 stacks, you have Immunity (Your entire health & shield go gray) for the next 3 attacks, its quite literally just mesmer skin and that shit is not hard to keep at max stacks
Whats the point of all this armor sharing and healing if you're gonna be immune to damage anyways????
So...does anyone regularly play Malice and Heresy? I'm not much for the higher difficulties. I'm more in it for the 40k power fantasy and to chill and hang
I play heresy :D
ight gaming time
peak, love that game
no
I mean, am bottom barrel heresy player.
STILL TRYING THE 3 HEADED DOG EVERDARK ;-;
saaaame
hey, you know, you don't have to be that person. If it doesn't apply to you.....you can just not be that basement troll
Shush, they don't need to know I play that and damns.
Me fr, I kiss the floor more often than I traverse it
yo krall?
Aki plays heresy until his pit stained squadmates start tryna force us through damns w modifiers
I just get lost chasing loot everywhere.
i'm just shaking my head man
So all the time?
Dont let aki lie
He kisses the floor in darktide far less often than in other games
Then again
Sometimes he brings a trowel and starts shoveling dirt down his gullet
Pretty sure your butt kisses the floor a whole lot in this game so...
Do you not do it on zealot to avoid shots?
No that was me, I wanted to go to damn
What were you thinking?
all i do in this game is slide i cant walk i cant run i just slide
You confuse me for a person that knows what an ability active is
Welp...time to see if the Dregs are still flammable
So open to ragers rushing in?
You're supposed to shoot them before they rush you
I can say that i started dodging
Mostly bc playing vet was. Horrifying. When the autogun goes pew pew rather than ratatata
I don't play zealot so I'm used to being this killable
I never got used to being made of mobeian steel
papier mache
Tin foil rather than cling wrap
Actually the other way around
Tin foil is pretty damn fragile
And ceran wrap at least REQUIRES a blade to rip
Stealth ragers. Thanks broken sound system.
one of these days they'll fix whatever engine limitation causes sounds to just not play
until then we're forced to play the grittier, more realistic darktide where the crusher walks on his tiptoes right up behind you to flatten you
That's arby.
Man was confident
I said “im here to suffer”
Boy howdy i was showed a horrible time 
You mean, a silent pack. Then you notice 5 hammers.
And then you down even as Arby.
One crusher means 8 ragers means someones not using their damn bullets
Except the Desperado scum.
200 songs from 4k liked Spotify songs
This is why I just play psyker and chille le le
Like in darktide or fatshark development as a whole? that kind of sound issue isn't the one that likes to go away lol
the latter
fat shark would probably develop any future games in a different engine so it'd stop being a problem
in the case of darktide we just have to believe really hard that something will happen because something always happens
Will be funny if they just modded it again and kept using it.
what's a silent pack?

Even when DT is literally straining the engine to hell.
Stealth crusherS.
Multiple crushers.
But
has indicators 
It used to be worse, I still push bursters solely on reaction to their kamikaze sound
Push bursters into teamates
New enemy idea : walker
They wear carapace armor and just walks around
what was that i didn't understand you did you say shoot the barrel next to the guy closest to the edge
If your alreadying moving into the burster and the only way to survive the blast is to push them backwards, yes...
that's terrifying never say that again
New enemy idea : hexxer
They shoot magic beam that flips your whole control reverse
new enemy idea: doug walker
Doing nothing but stop cleave?
that sounds like scab captains honestly
rot horde
rot horde
Since fatshark seems to love rotten armor bullet sponge shit
That can still hurt at times. Or you have enough ping you can't block or parry in time.
Sword captains that deal damage just by walking at you
I need to be blocking when the warning plays or I just get hit.
New enemy idea : talker
Equipped with nurgle blessed wireless speaker. Runs around randomly and play random specialist/elite sounds
I already have @versed roost trying to spook me with the Chainaxe.
It's not working cos maulers are silent half the time. >_>
Sometimes also makes VT2 rat sounds just to fuck you up
new enemy idea the trapper it traps you with some kind of net
Its not new
They already multiplied the bitch trapper by 3.
what
New enemy idea : robber
Robs your curio
darktide needs kuva liches


