general-chat

[round mica]

"General White Race Savior... You're browner than I expected."

[gilded socket]

Peak for you

[tight heath]

Live laugh love wife

[tall grove]

Go there and blast we are Charlie Kirk

[pure quail]

DO NOT ask a white supremacist the race of his wife

[tight heath]

Jd Vance

Sorry it’s a couch

[grizzled granite]

I like my ice drowned in water....

[round mica]

Do not ask a white supremacist his own race

[lost flume]

You know what bad satire is? Propaganda for the thing it's satirizing.

[candid drift]

do it with a change my mind table xd

[gilded socket]

Do not ask a neo nazi what their real skin color is and what part of south america theyre from

[round mica]

Omg youre still going

[tight heath]

How much you willing to bet he googled this

[pure quail]

I unironically found a "all non-europeans should gtfo out of europe" a while ago who was whining about how so many children in Sweden are foreign or thje child to foreign born, his wife was from thailand

[twin flower]

The hell is goin on

[tight heath]

I am really surprised a mod hasn’t shown up yet

[tight heath]

Unironic chud here

[pure quail]

and he had a daughter

[tight heath]

Called me a Nazi for being a guy Hayley fan

[twin flower]

Who?

[pure quail]

with his thai wife

[round mica]

Someone is throwing a tantrum over someone saying they like a character from 40k

[grizzled granite]

has anybody saw the reaction of the new custodes? Man... So many Bitchless people really love Space King

[round mica]

I am not kidding

[lost flume]

I understand trying to communicate with people in denial is a complete waste of time but you're going to be wondering for a long time why the fandom has a problem with the likes of Haley writing "and that's why the Imperium is unironically cool, it just had the wrong strongman, no, see he's reluctant-"

[gilded socket]

It takes a rather low level of media literacy to understand that satire is meant to attract attention to further the nuances but of course you cant read anyways so,,,,,,,,,

[tight heath]

@lost flume

Laugh at this user

[twin flower]

[tight heath]

Hey buddy you have to be quiet… people don’t like you

[tall grove]

Oooohhhh my gooooood bro
You’re dragging it

[round mica]

Why are you so persistent to be wrong

[low blade]

At this point I'm an Imperium ultra-fan now glory to the Emperor and the system

[pure quail]

me when all the white supremacist america first republican influencer accounts on twitter were found to be in India and the system was removed like a day later

[grizzled granite]

Read Mike Brooks

He is better

[lost flume]

Brooks is excellent

[grizzled granite]

I fucking loved Voidscarred

[round mica]

This person is genuinely making me want to be a ultramarine fan and say the Imperium are the good guys

[low blade]

ICE
Removes Mexicans
Looks inside
66% Mexican

[round mica]

They're SO ANNOYING

[lost flume]

the difference being he isn't so incompetent at themes and character work that he loops into being an accidental Nazi propagandist

[gilded socket]

Im a halo fan who has read a few of the books. Am i UNSC sympathizer for thinking that UNSC marine and MJOLNIR armor is sexier than covenant armor is?

[round mica]

[tall grove]

The necrons are fully correct
Death to the inferior fleshling primitives

[tight heath]

FEED THIS MAN TO A SCARAB SWARM

[low blade]

The best faction in the setting are the Necromunda gangs

[round mica]

THE IMPERIUM ARE THE GOOD GUYS GLORY TO THE GOD EMPEROR OF MANKIND NUKE ALL XENOS

[pure quail]

the dude who murdered the woman in the car last week has a latina wife afaik

[tight heath]

Erm actually it’s trazyn the infinite and his boyfriend rival

[tall scarab]

@lost flume just want to say that I kinda agree with you 😭 perhaps not gonna die on that hill but still

[gilded socket]

Nobody hates ethnic groups more than members of said ethnic group

[tall grove]

Hope she leaves his bum ass

[tall scarab]

my intro to WH40k was the saber interactive space marine game (the first one) and that didn't seem like satire in the slightest

[tight heath]

He’s calling me a Nazi for being a guy Hayley fan

[low blade]

Filipina

[tight heath]

Do not

[lost flume]

If you're overly keen on rationalizing the ONI death squads then you may in fact have some unaddressed hangups, don't think you intentionally confusing the idea of aesthetic and theme went unnoticed either

[tight heath]

Agree with this man

[low blade]

So the Latinos of Asia

[pure quail]

ah mb

[tight heath]

I’m giving you advice here

[round mica]

Then you don't understand anything about 40k

[jaunty path]

very good :)

[tall scarab]

I agree with the take that some of 40k isn't doing the satire part well, I'm not calling anyone a nazi

[lost flume]

40k has always had a major contradiction between alleged satire and "science fantasy" and it goes some ugly places if you just pretend there isn't an issue with diving itno the latter

[grizzled granite]

I'm going to quote my best friend
"Necrons invented org*es, Eldar allowed women to partecipate in it"

Thanks for listening to my TED talk

[tight heath]

I disagree but I respect your opinion

See

This is called a normal conversation

[jaunty path]

We still going?

[lost flume]

someone has to say it tbh: it's entirely possible through disregard or intention to tell a story functionally indistinguishable from propaganda for the idea it's poking at

[gilded socket]

Muh oni def squads get rida those degenerate sangheli!!! Me and my sangheli wife is scared!!!!

[tall scarab]

like my experience of 40k is mostly the games, SM1 (though don't remember much of it now), darktide, and RT and I didn't really detect much satire in them

black comedy, sure

but satire is not the same as that

[tight heath]

Black comedy is a form of satire…

[lost flume]

and that it takes a remarkably defensive lack of self awareness- and a dangerous one for a "teacher"- to not realize that sometimes badly written literature can in fact have unfortunate themes

[tight heath]

I like frog and toad

[lost flume]

My condolences to your "students" and I hope they find professionals to help them learn going forwards.

[tight heath]

I have a poster of frog and toad on my bag when I substitute teach rn

[gilded socket]

Dude let it go man

[tight heath]

👻

[gilded socket]

This is getting sad

Like

Sadder than my attention seeking

And im pathetic

[lost flume]

uh huh

well good for you ig

[pure quail]

Hi Pathetic I'm Aldeéra

[jaunty path]

if they wanna criticize books they shall

[low blade]

Buy a Necromunda gang

[gilded socket]

Wruff!!

[tired steeple]

Aldeera is a nice name

[pure quail]

dogs? where!?

[tall scarab]

it's on the WishList(tm)

[pure quail]

ptsd flashbacks

[gilded socket]

Hm,,,,,, not sure,,,,

[lost flume]

https://timcolwill.com/40K.html TBH this essay honestly makes the point in general

[tired steeple]

Is the necromunda tabletop any good

[pure quail]

thank thank

[lost flume]

pearls before swine but who knows

[pure quail]

I made it myself

[tired steeple]

Of course

[gilded socket]

AUTOKRATO!!!!!!!!

[tired steeple]

I also made mine myself

Hello maxine

Blacksea is a fake last name I made to sound cool

[lost flume]

It's more the "weird corners" of 40k in some ways

[tired steeple]

I see

[lost flume]

different focus from mainline 40k ,kidna smaller scale

[low blade]

Which one? I will gladly help you narrow it down. A full playable gang costs as much as one 40k unit

[pure quail]

if you find them let me know I need to exterminate them

[lost flume]

more "gang warfare" then "open battlefields"

[gilded socket]

Hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi !!!!!!!!!!!

[lost flume]

more sci fi aesthetic too

[tall scarab]

oh I thought you meant the game

[tired steeple]

There were some other warhammer games I don’t see talked about much

[tall scarab]

the hired gun one

[tired steeple]

Mordheim

[low blade]

INCREDIBLY good

[gilded socket]

Oh,,,,

[tight heath]

Best 40K is kill team

Like

Unironically

Play kill team

[tired steeple]

The video game sucks. No idea if the table is good

[tight heath]

Please

[low blade]

LOLE no dont buy that for anything over like, 4 bucks

[pure quail]

they have ruined one too many of my runs

[tired steeple]

Yeah I’m gonna play killteam this weekend

Gonna play ad mech

[gilded socket]

Ough,,,,,

[tired steeple]

Or emperor’s children

[low blade]

Necromunda tabletop is amazingly fun

[tired steeple]

I’ll check and see if TTS has a mod for it

[low blade]

And its full of SOUL

[tired steeple]

Necromunda

And again I wanna check mordhiem out

[pure quail]

did you pour oil in the sea to make it black you mean?

[low blade]

There are many, its how I played a campaign recently

[tired steeple]

Sure why not

Oh cool

[pure quail]

you might be a good dog though, would probably headpat

[tight heath]

My local game store one of the guys got so fed up with me because I tabled him round two as world eaters

[gilded socket]

Ough im zealoting it! Im zealot it SO MUCH!!!!!!!!

[tight heath]

He was playing custodes

Round one charge

[gilded socket]

More or less

[low blade]

You'll also wanna check out MundaManager (Gang and campaign manager) and NecroRaw (All the rules)

[tight heath]

Clown cars filled with berserkers

[tired steeple]

Yhanks

I’ll screen shot this so I remember

[pure quail]

Zealot gang. I will run into the middle of the horse while yelling about the emperor and you can not stop me

[tall scarab]

but tldr my opinion 40k was similar to yahtzee's in his SM2 review where I didn't quite understand whether SMs themselves are supposed to be laughable or badass

[gilded socket]

Trvf

[low blade]

Cawdor moment

[pure quail]

my chainsaw axe will claim the blood of the heretics even if I go down for it

[gilded socket]

IM A ZEALOT

[tall scarab]

some parts of 40k are far more obviously comedic than others (orks e.g.)

[low blade]

Cawdor moment

[pure quail]

hmnhmhmhmh

[tight heath]

Everytime I table someone in a match I make them sign the plaque

#darktide-pics-vids message

[lost flume]

the essay is probably going to be relevant

[pure quail]

Hi A ZEALOT, I'm Aldeéra

[tight heath]

It has to be before round 3

[lost flume]

in that it sums up the issue with examples

[jaunty path]

I'm yet to see any comedy out of 40k, but I hear Kingmaker has some.

[tight heath]

And is through a charge wipe

[tight heath]

The infinite and the divine

[lost flume]

https://timcolwill.com/40K.html @tall scarab

[tight heath]

Is bill and Ted in space

[lost flume]

40k has always had an issue with "it's a SATIRE of a fascist empire" vs "unironic SPACE ADVENTURES FOLLOWING JOHNNY SPACE, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM"

the problem is that unironic science fantasy makes a lot more money

[low blade]

Necromunda has fantastic lore thats peak silly-serious mix

[lost flume]

which is how you get someone like guy haley

writing fascist blorbos

[drowsy lynx]

We love running into horses

[low blade]

Its where a lot of the best worldbuilding comes from

[tight heath]

OH MY GOD SHUT UP

PLEASE

GOD

[jaunty path]

I don't think 40k has any intention of forwarding fascism, I think it might need to put in a little more effort into making it obvious that the bad guys are bad. Then again, mass slavery.

Though I think that requires people to know the wider setting, which they often don't, to actually recognize the imperium as THE bad guys

[tight heath]

FUCKING SHUT UP

NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR IT ANYMORE

[jaunty path]

whos guy haley

[tall grove]

It would have attracted fascists regardless

[tight heath]

😭😭😭

[tight heath]

Do not get this started again bruh

[lost flume]

Grandpa, what part of your defense mechanism makes you think I care

[tall scarab]

that is kind of an issue in itself, though, isn't it

[lost flume]

40k novel writer who churns out stories fast

[tall scarab]

like, I do think that GW doesn't intend to be sympathetic to fascism, at least I hope that is the case

[pure quail]

if someone gets radicalised by the obviously evil space empire because they think the blueberry marines are cool they were gonna get radicalised anyway

[low blade]

The lore for this Bolt Action tabletop wargame is even worse btw, thats a real nazi pit

[pure quail]

shut you

[tall scarab]

but there are a non-insignificant amount of the community who think SMs and the Imperium etc are unironically cool and aren't picking up on the satire

[lost flume]

A company fundamentally doesn't care about anything

[ancient violet]

Ah culture war

Tell me more 🍿

[tall scarab]

and to lay the blame solely on the audience is a cop-out imo

[lost flume]

Like, yeah of course it's unlikely to be conscious

[tight heath]

Clearly you’re an attention starved fuck who calls anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi because you don’t like who you are you whine and complain to make yourself feel a tiny bit better but you’re only ever a bit more lonely inside after

[tall grove]

I mean they are unironically cool, power armoured super soldiers are cool
They’re just not good

[tight heath]

No one wants to hear it bruh

[low blade]

Like, bro the writing is crazy

[lost flume]

but the problem is that there isn't really a clean answer to the two answers to "what is 40k" and a profit motive is gonna lead to messy conclusions

[tight heath]

Wait till you’ve seen old rogue trader

[low blade]

40k is a plastic army man game

[lost flume]

Like. What happens when you sanitize the "cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable" and use it as your default protagonist with "likeable" characters, increasingly using ones in a position to actually end the rotten thing?

[tall scarab]

yeah, and you could define that as sympathetic, could you not? in a Machiavellian sense

[low blade]

I know it. Nowhere near the lore for Bolt Action

[tall grove]

Huh

[tall scarab]

like a certain type of person could very much see that as desirable

[pure quail]

you'd think the skulls and theocracy stuff would do it but some people are just gonna get radicalised anyway. I think the fact most games have an imperium focus is a bigger part than anything, it's harder to write an imperium critical story when you are playing as a soldier for the imperium

[lost flume]

People tend to sympathize with viewpoints

[tall scarab]

as in, specifically not wanting to be liked but to be thought of as badass, cool, awe-inspiring, capable of violence,

[tight heath]

Blood gorgons by Henry zhou @low blade Google this one

[tired steeple]

Well, we can all agree on one thing

[tall scarab]

etc

[lost flume]

Like. This is a very common thing.

[ancient violet]

Not gonna lie, everything you said was 1000% chud energy of "no politics" except when it's the status quo 💀

[lost flume]

shhh

[tired steeple]

Black Templar fans are the worst thing to happen to this community

[tight heath]

One of the worst 40K books

[lost flume]

You're wrong. Krieg fans exist.

[low blade]

I know them. Didnt he get fired for plagarism?

[tired steeple]

Oh god

[tight heath]

The other guy called me a Nazi for liking guy Hayley

[tired steeple]

God they really ruined krieg for me

[gilded socket]

Yeagh

[tight heath]

Not only fired got sued lmfao

[tired steeple]

It’s why I prefer armageddon steel legion

[low blade]

Also I'm joking about Bolt Action "lore" lmao

[tight heath]

Also claimed to be a veteran

[tired steeple]

They’re krieg but human

[tight heath]

(Not)

[lost flume]

I have some bad news

[tight heath]

And stole his entire book

[gilded socket]

Theyre so peaky,,,,,,

[tight heath]

From solders memoirs

[gilded socket]

Shut the fuck up no one cares

[tight heath]

Only 40K book so bad it’s illegal

[lost flume]

More seriously it's morbidly funny they have fewer hitler particles than Krieg

[gilded socket]

Yes WE KNOW its satire EVERYONE IS VERY MUCH AWARE

[tired steeple]

Jesus Christ what the hell is with people today

[low blade]

Wehraboos too stupid to notice they're literally WW2 Germans because they arent Grey and named "War"

[tight heath]

Idk

[ancient violet]

What did he do that was "controversial"

[tall grove]

Krieg are French
French are worse than Hitler

[gilded socket]

Dude’s been picking fights about liking the guard

[jaunty path]

What are we talking about krieg

[tight heath]

I hope you’re having a better day tho

[lost flume]

liking the guard

[jaunty path]

boring regiment

[lost flume]

holy literacy

[ancient violet]

Is this a problem?

[tight heath]

I LOVE YOU KNIGHT HOUSE RETAINERS

[jaunty path]

oh its just bait

[low blade]

Nothing. We're discussing how awesome and cool the Necromunda gamgs are

[tired steeple]

Anyway I like steel legion cause I like my bad ass gas mask characters that are actual people and not mindless clones that die as “penance”

[lost flume]

The issue is liking guy haley and how the 40k writing has unironic imperial apologia problems

[tired steeple]

Krieg are just a bad guard regiment

[jaunty path]

Yeah

bait

[tight heath]

Omfg 😭

[lost flume]

Like if you're gonna whine about me maybe at least do it accurately

[tired steeple]

Cause they fail to be human

Which is the main appeal of the guard

[lost flume]

Krieg in theory are...fine?

[low blade]

Necromundan Spiders had drip, shame we barely see em now

[tight heath]

You called me a Nazi for liking guy Hayley

[lost flume]

It's the fandom that made them weird, they're meant to be self-hating self-destructive wrecks

[tall grove]

???

[pure quail]

imagine being a human and not a large rat person

[ancient violet]

What the fuck did Guy Hayley do

I need to know

😭

[tired steeple]

Wrong game

[round mica]

not again

[gilded socket]

That guy keeps trying to throw up the fact that the imperial guard is fascist, which everyone already knows very much so and keeps going on about guy hayley

[tight heath]

Nothing

He doesn’t like guy Hayley

[tall scarab]

I believe he takes people to Flavour Town

[pure quail]

don't care didn't ask give me skaven in space already

[ancient violet]

Oh you would be surprised of the Warhammer community 💀

[gilded socket]

Guy Hayley didnt love him back so now he’s mad

[tight heath]

LMFAOOO

[tired steeple]

I believe this was actually planned

[round mica]

man i went to take a bath and that mf is still going?

jesus fucking christ

[gilded socket]

I meant everyone as in frequent gen chatters

[tight heath]

How was your bath

[ancient violet]

Oh mb

[round mica]

i feel like playing sm2 again

[gilded socket]

I shouldve clarified

[round mica]

[tight heath]

Go for it

[tight heath]

I’m playing marvel rivals w the friends tonight

[lost flume]

Okay so the problem with Guy Haley is his novels all boil down to this: The Sympathetic Imperial vs The Faceless, Cartoonish or Literally Agencyless NPCs. You get some "bad imperials" to help drive the point home that he's "the good one", but the man fundamentally is so poor at character struggle that it boils down to weird propaganda in itself. You can say Guy Haley is the face of modern 40k: namely, everything wrong with it and its obsession with justifying and sanewashing the Imperium.

[round mica]

man can't understand good people can exist inside a regime

[gilded socket]

You too loud rn,,,,,,,,,

[tall grove]

Sanewashing is not a word I ever thought I’d hear

[tired steeple]

I feel like if you all stopped replying this would be over with faster btw

[tight heath]

He can’t differentiate between real life and fiction

[lost flume]

...This is really not a good talking point about Guy Haley's books ngl and it's kinda not a great argument in general

[tight heath]

Like I said before

[round mica]

people stopped replying and they still kept going

[tight heath]

This is a quality I see in 8 year olds

[tall scarab]

I mean, you were calling him low IQ

[pure quail]

but that is the logical thing to do

[gilded socket]

“Oh well if they’re in the evil army they must all be evil!!!” The fact that most militarum soldiers didnt choose to join up:

[candid drift]

well this just isn't true

[lost flume]

Grandpa have you tried not tripling down in defense of having shitty taste in toy soldier literature

[tall scarab]

like it does take two to tango here 😭

[lost flume]

as a treat

[rocky radish]

So glad I never got into 40k lore. Y'all don't seem to be having fun

[tired steeple]

It’s usually a lot more fun than this

[tight heath]

Nah we’re great

[gilded socket]

Dont be a chud and dont be a chud

[jaunty path]

This person is just a troll :p

[tight heath]

It’s not the lore that’s the issue

[lost flume]

Like if you're treating the idea that maybe your books are kinda problematic as reason to go on a shrieking tirade, some introspection may do you good. Or time away from your poor students.

[tight heath]

Anyways

[jaunty path]

They wouldn't be here if they didn't like 40k

[tight heath]

Fuck Mary kill 40K characters

[pure quail]

I just watch a funny youtube guy telling me the funny lore, I don't really care

[tight heath]

Someone go

[round mica]

it's not even that some people are just annoying

[tight heath]

I love you krak duck please never go bald

[tall grove]

Oh my god stop already

[round mica]

marry konrad curze, fuck sanguinius, kill erebus

[low blade]

Try Necromunda, sport

[pure quail]

no clue who that is

[gilded socket]

Krak duk is a friend(ish)

[tight heath]

If you have contact tell him I got 3 ppl into 40K off of his videos

[tight heath]

And I love his work

[tired steeple]

Maybe a moderator should hell at people

[tight heath]

I pinged

They don’t care

[gilded socket]

You could also just join his server……….

[tight heath]

Nothing

[tall grove]

Hell at people

[round mica]

theyve been pinged but no reply

[lost flume]

maybeeeeeeeeeee people getting weirdly defensive about the Imperium being bad and writing being overly apologetic for it is bad may be a subtle clue that the mindset around it in fandom has some unaddressed issues 🤔

[tight heath]

He has one???

[gilded socket]

Yes,,,,

[tired steeple]

Maybe they’re all sleeping

[tight heath]

[pure quail]

sleep is for the weak

[tight heath]

I’m a world eater player

You expect too much

[gilded socket]

Dare i say a really funny but not funny thing…………

[tall grove]

Maybeeeeeeeeee you’re dragging it and it’s annoying

[cold cobalt]

Hi, how's it going? I'm looking for friends to help me get the "Flawless Execution" trophy, which involves repeating the train mission 10 times without dying.

[gilded socket]

I dont wanna get bannered……….

[round mica]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[tight heath]

Wrong chat sorry!

[low blade]

I'm a Night Lords fan we skinnin kids in this bitch

[cold cobalt]

Sorry, I'm new here.

[tight heath]

Dm me invite pls

[tired steeple]

I’m with the ad mech. We have no morals

[tight heath]

You’re good happy to help good luck!

[tall scarab]

yeah I like admech too...

[round mica]

we skinning babies in their sleep and making a boot out of it

[tight heath]

Toaster or blender

[pure quail]

dm me it

[tired steeple]

More of a toaster. Blenders are dark mechanicum

[pure quail]

Hi New Here, I'm Aldeéra

[gilded socket]

Im a Armageddon Steel legion fan, i have no love for those animal orks and will happily sweat my ass off in a thick sulfur colored coat

[low blade]

I like that the Baby sleeps through it, what a knockout

[round mica]

elaborate

[gilded socket]

Nah……..

[tight heath]

Spikey ones

[gilded socket]

Huh?

[pure quail]

but... the funny :(

[tired steeple]

Well dark mechanicum are even worse, since they’re usually more chaos aligned

So

[tight heath]

To the krak duck server LOL

[tired steeple]

They’d prefer a blender to a toaster

As the blender has blades

Toaster lacks blades

[low blade]

What if I told you Necromunda has an insane Half-Nid Admech?

[tall scarab]

honestly, I do think that WH40k as a whole does invoke fascist iconography for aesthetic and requires way too much familiarity with the series to actually understand the satire

[river elbow]

What the fuck are we talking about?

[round mica]

sleep sleep little baby while i make you out of new boots

[tight heath]

Sigh

[river elbow]

I see Night Lords was mentioned, carry on.

[tight heath]

I just wanna move on fuck man

[gilded socket]

Im a Armageddon Steel legion fan. I will hate crime any ork i can get my hands on for what they did to my homewolrd! (Is what i would say if i was a moron that the troll thinks i am)

[gilded socket]

Its in his YouTube channel

[round mica]

people are lobotomized and turned into robot slaves, it doesnt require being familiar with it to see the satire, man

[tight heath]

Ok

[round mica]

weird people exist in every fandom

[tired steeple]

The ork isn’t even capable of knowing what it did is wrong

[tall scarab]

yes, but that's not per se detectable as satire unless you are more familiar with the setting than what is immediately apparent

[gilded socket]

Would you like to know more?

[round mica]

getting mad at people who just enjoy the setting for it being a fictional thing is just dumb

[tall scarab]

besides, I didn't know about servitors until a fair ways in, honestly

[gilded socket]

It breathed next to Armageddon

[lost flume]

The problem is the "protagonist factor" and fandom means some people get extremely defensive. Guy Haley is a case study and I absolutely would never say he does satire particularly well

[round mica]

this is just you being new to 40k

[tall scarab]

given that they aren't exactly flagships

[tired steeple]

I’m off to bed

[gilded socket]

Nini

[tired steeple]

I haven’t been playing darktide I’m mostly just back on 40k in general

Nini

[lost flume]

Like, even Helldivers is still keeping to the "satire" angle more honestly than 40k these days tbh

[round mica]

space marine 2 isnt loading

i should kill myself

[pure quail]

good night friend with own made name

[tall scarab]

yes, and that's the issue, the setting asks quite a lot of familiarity to understand the satire

[river elbow]

Did you bless the Machine Spirit?

[round mica]

ah yes take the media who does it in the most comical way of satire and compare it to one who deals it in nuance

very good

[lost flume]

nuance

[round mica]

multiple times

[pure quail]

you need more incest. I mean incest. I mean inces- I mean incence

[round mica]

i know what you are

[tall grove]

And yet fascists still flock to it
It didn’t matter
Guy Haley or not there’d still be fascists in the fandom

[lost flume]

Curious how your definition of nuance is just "fascists but they sometimes say they feel bad about the babypulper 9000"

[tall scarab]

for example, when you see a twitter post of a commissar or whatever, in the get-up inspired by nazi commanders, looking all badass with their guns and chainswords and stuff, a non-fan might think that this is supposed to be taken straight

[lost flume]

I'd call that lazy copout more than anything

[pure quail]

a capybara who loves the skaven, yesyes

[tight heath]

Gn gn

[frank bear]

I'm sorry but how come your account is from 2016 and you DONT have a custom profile picture?, my curiosity has flared

[round mica]

because they're a non fan
same thing happens to helldivers

[tall scarab]

usually commissars are portrayed as flat and unfeeling but ruthless and fearless and blah blah blah, but it typically takes a while of reading the lore to find out that this isn't the case

[ancient violet]

I'm gonna stop you there

Because this just sounds like the average fictional writing dilemma

I refuse to believe that any fictional story can world build outside of a cardboard box, so I don't really care at this point.

[lost flume]

There's a reason I'm saying Guy Haley is incompetent.

[tall scarab]

for a specific example, if someone was brand new to the franchise and started playing Darktide, how long would it be before they figured out that Dukane wasn't supposed to be "good" at her job

[tight heath]

👏

[light heron]

Frag your local Commisar.
They won't be missed.

[tall scarab]

like by her nature as commissar

because she's portrayed as pretty ruthless, in control of herself, efficient, someone we're supposed to be on the same side of even if we don't "like" her etc

I think, if it happens at all, it'd be some kind of meta moment where she's throwing you into BS havoc missions and you're like "hey, this is kind of unfair", maybe

[gilded socket]

Because 40k isn’t for normies (i hate gatekeeping but its true) as much as a shitpost video got me into 40k i also understand the importance of how the media itself layers satire in a perfect sense (depends on author) and how situations and military command structures show how little the leadership cares and only wants results instead of valuing the soldier on their life rather than their worth in aquilas or local currency. But you see no self proclaimed “fan” could understand that idea and find it as just blatant fascism and anyone who likes it must be a nazi to them other than the idea of perpetual war being a very relateable story and plot especially in the coming years on earth itself

[light heron]

Dukane looks like she needs a mean coffee.

[tall scarab]

it might have not been intended for normies, but it practically is

[lost flume]

Do you hear yourself?

[tall scarab]

DnD had to do a lot of hammering out the problematic aspects of its image in response to its popularity

[lost flume]

You're literally going "to be fair you need a very high IQ to understand rick and morty"

[tall scarab]

Gygax wanted low CHR female PCs to be able to kill people by scaring them to death with their seduction rolls, like

[cold cobalt]

I use Discord very sporadically; just this week I was frustrated with the trophy and that's why I searched "darktide discord" on google xd

[lost flume]

Like if your idea of satire is to turn it into a mystery cult

maybe you have a problem

[gilded socket]

Comparing a show made by a pedo in less than 6 years (wild guess) to a series made by multiple authors over 40 years is not a good comparison

[lost flume]

whoosh

[tall scarab]

WH40k is the biggest wargame in existence, right? at least it's close

and the games are picking up bigger and bigger audiences

[low blade]

Remember when a bunch of people accused Orcs of being black stereotypes?

[ancient violet]

Ok I don't disagree with you

But the difference between someone like him and someone like JKRowling is that it doesn't seem like he has twitter meltdowns and funds millions of dollars to Nazi organizations just because she doesn't like trans people 💀

[gilded socket]

I dunno man go read a 40k book made by another author or something

[lost flume]

Well yaeh

duh

[round mica]

this is getting too annoying so im blocking that dude and just moving on

[lost flume]

JK Rowling is an intentionally malicious oligarch, Haley is just a hack

[gilded socket]

<@&735928989146939404>

[round mica]

there is a word i want to use so much about this topic

[lost flume]

why am I not surprised

[gilded socket]

People are fucking stupid?

[tight heath]

I tried that already

[gilded socket]

Keep going

[tight heath]

They didn’t do anything

[ancient violet]

It's hard to analyse the intent or a writer without also seeing a parallel in the real world

So I don't bother trying

[jaunty path]

The mods are watching, laughing and eating popcorn rn

[ancient violet]

For Rowling it's extremely easy because she literally can't shut the fuck up

[lost flume]

My point is that Guy Haley's writing is so poor it edges on irresponsible given the subject matter.

[gilded socket]

How dare aquila and hank not invite me

[tall scarab]

ngl there were definitely some suspicious things about early DnD and its creators

[jaunty path]

Satanism

[round mica]

probably

but tbh they should intervene

[ancient violet]

I understand, but it could just be out of ignorance not malice

[jaunty path]

As a black person

I am fine being an ork

[lost flume]

Well yeah of course, I'm not even saying intent

[tight heath]

In the most respectful way possible this made me laugh my ass off

[lost flume]

Guy Haley is someone that churns things out very fast without much care

[ancient violet]

Malice is required to know for sure is what I am saying

[jaunty path]

WAAAAAAUUUGGGGHHH

[lost flume]

it's why he's such a big name in GW novels atm, he's great at meeting deadlines

[gilded socket]

<@&735928989146939404> troll

[amber delta]

chat you are cringe

[lost flume]

but like, "whoops fash" bc he's sloppy and a fast writer is...not a great look just in general

[gilded socket]

Yes!

[tall grove]

Wait really?
I was certain you were a crazy white chick
I suppose insanity transcends ethnicity

[ancient violet]

For example I know 99% certain that Tolkien was a racist due to his depictions of the evil races

But I will never be able to prove it due to his death

[jaunty path]

EVERYONE CALLS ME WHITE

[lost flume]

Maxine funny how your definition of troll is someone pointing out your taste in literature is rancid

[jaunty path]

MY OWN MOTHER CALLS ME WHITE

ITS SO OVER.

[gilded socket]

Now now lets not treat missus as a exotic animal now

[low blade]

Pfp lole

[jaunty path]

rawr

[gilded socket]

Oh nah dude i like Eric Nylund’s work with the halo books more

[light heron]

Got it. She's just an animal.

[tall grove]

Such a unique specimen should be studied

[gilded socket]

Rrrrghh!!!!

[gilded socket]

Okay man

[tall grove]

Sorry it’s just I only see white people saying this kinda shit lmao

[gilded socket]

Local man befuddled my favorite author isnt 40k related

[tight heath]

Same

Neither of my parents are born in the us

Or white

And they call me white

[tall grove]

A grave insult

[gilded socket]

Wonder where @lost flume he’s so quiet now……

[jaunty path]

Lmfaooo

[pure quail]

does anyone actually like reading warhammer books?

[ancient violet]

Imagine being white 😔

[pure quail]

I thought it was just a meme

[tight heath]

Got tired of being picked on

[gilded socket]

I do

[gilded socket]

Poor thing

[tight heath]

You’re in the wrong server buddy

[pure quail]

I thought the books existed just as like, for people who really like to write fan fics

[lost flume]

there are plenty of solid writers

and plenty of trash

so yeah there's fandom

[tight heath]

[pure quail]

please note this is a joke, although I have not read a single one

[gilded socket]

Got nothing more to say? Now you dont care?

[tall grove]

Couldn’t be me
<——is the palest person I know

[lost flume]

what are you babbling about

maxine

[pure quail]

I did actually look at some of the audiobooks but they're only available on amazon and I am not going to give Jeff a single dollar

[gilded socket]

All of a sudden i mention halo and he stops dead in his tracks

[tight heath]

You gonna call her a Nazi too

[pure quail]

my skin has the colour of newly bleached bedsheets

[gilded socket]

@grok analyize that

[lost flume]

what on earth are you trying to prove

[tired inlet]

Reading Dostoyevsky for the plot

[tight heath]

Bros bamboozled

[lost flume]

You're on ignore, so you'll forgive me for not caring to find whatever gotcha you think halo of all things might be

[tall scarab]

I'm not sure this is particularly constructive

[tall grove]

My skin is the colour of birch lmao

[tall scarab]

you wanted them to stop talking, right?

[pure quail]

speaking of the books, anyone know if the audiobooks are available anywhere officially other than amazon?

[tall scarab]

there is no need to be a sore winner about it

[pure quail]

🤝

[ancient violet]

Vitamin D deficiency isn't the same as being white

[lost flume]

But like, yeah, Halo writing does have a lot of issues, what are you trying to use from it to get out of admitting you lack self-awareness of issues with 40k writing?

[gilded socket]

Reading mein kampf to better hate hitler

[tall grove]

Whar

[pure quail]

I am Swedish, vitamin d deficiency is a racial trait of ours

[gilded socket]

Sorry man im kinda like busy, go jack your ego off somewhere else

[pure quail]

vitamin d deficiency and walking outside in shorts at all times of year

[pure quail]

apparently it's just a poorly written book as well as being incredibly racist

[tall scarab]

yeah, I've heard it's pretty poorly written as well

it's mostly just rambling

[gilded socket]

Anyways, i think Eric Nylund did a good job with the fall of reach especially knowing that he didnt have much of an idea what the halo story is going to turn out to be

[gilded socket]

Obviously

[tall grove]

What? Did you expect schizophrenic ranting about phrenology or whatever to be well put together?

[pure quail]

not really, no

[lost flume]

Like...Yes Nylund's work and the idea that the ONI supersoldier program was "necessary" is very much awkward in its implications? That's...not really a gotcha. Like, yes, Halo's storytelling does have issues- did you think real world fascists using Halo symbolism doesn't say something? I'm honestly a bit bemused what you think this proves, other than...Yeah, modern sci fi does have a fash idea issue, and it dates back to Heinlein inspirations here.

Like, you don't need to make denying that literature you read has problems in implications into your whole personality

[tight heath]

Dostoyevsky gas when you show them happiness

Or joy

[lost flume]

Halo's plot is a contrivance, and- as an actually competent writer- Nylund doesn't play apologetic. The figurative and near-literal gun to Halsey's head is there for a reason lol

[tall scarab]

honestly, it's kind of fascinating reading about Hitler and finding out that the man himself was almost legendarily incompetent and was propped up by the people around him who actually knew what they were doing

[tight heath]

This message

Scared me

At the start

[lost flume]

(the less said about halo 4's take on that the better)

[alpine talon]

Heya im thinking of buying darktide pretty cheap rn as well as the arbites class looks rly fun to play

[river elbow]

Do it.

[light heron]

Do it.

[pure quail]

for the emperor

[pure quail]

oh yeah it's really funny seeing people today unironically praise him

[river elbow]

FOR THE LEX! JOIN US AS WE QUELL THE BLOCK-FODDER!

[rocky radish]

It really is a lot of fun. I might be biased though (600 hours)

[alpine talon]

Im expecting a bias opinion i joined for a reason lmao

The arbites class looks rly fcking cool

[tall grove]

They be glazing bro for no reason
He didn’t even have two testicles lol

[light heron]

Still mad that Arbi Maul's main insult is Block-Fodder and not Scum.
(I watched the trailer too much.)

[tall scarab]

he wanted to get rid of all the Jews by shipping them to Madagascar 🥀

[gilded socket]

It almost like i keep hearing a little bitch whine everytime i bring up halo,,,,,,

[rocky radish]

Arbi is good. And the dog helps so much

[pure quail]

one of his last orders in the bunker before he killed himself was to just take as many germans with him to the grave as possible because the national socialist experiment had failed and the aryan race was too weak

[tight heath]

Buzz buzzz

[jaunty path]

Social media is truly addictive

[gilded socket]

No its not that

[tall grove]

Fuckin bozo

[lost flume]

Maxine your lack of self-awareness is genuinely appalling, but this is the second time you've basically tried to rewrite recent arguments to be about the most recent thing you want to change the topic to. I promise- you are not important enough to get a reply in general nor to dominate an argument here. Back to ignore with ye?

[jaunty path]

L m a o

[gilded socket]

Snooze fest

[pure quail]

but it doesn't let you charge into the middle of a horde yelling about the emperor, so is it really worth it?

[river elbow]

I've heard Block-Fodder more times than "Marshal Vortern doesn't like me." Lmao.

[alpine talon]

Can I play with my buddy who's on xbox and play on Xbox gameplay

[light heron]

I don't... think so...?

[jaunty path]

Yes

[river elbow]

Darktide has full Crossplay.

[light heron]

Oop.

[alpine talon]

Hells yh

[light heron]

Ignore me!

[rocky radish]

I hit ignore when they kept barking like a dog. Red flags are often right

[alpine talon]

Is the arbites class hard to learn?

[tall grove]

The opposite

[jaunty path]

Not at all.

[rocky radish]

Easy to pick up, but high skill ceiling

[river elbow]

Run Shock Maul and Shield and you're practically the Lex itself.

[jaunty path]

Mhm

Stupidly op

[alpine talon]

Ah

[jaunty path]

Its not good if you're trying to get good

[alpine talon]

The shotty on the arbites looks fun af

[rocky radish]

Please don't call your Arbi anything Judge Dredd or Robocop related

[pure quail]

but... we need more blood for the emperor and more skulls for the golden throne

[alpine talon]

Blasting xenos with a shotty in the bame of the emperor

[river elbow]

Oh, man. I've seen so many of those it's tiring.

[pure quail]

we're not blasting any xenos though actually

just heretics

[tall scarab]

forty percent of arbitrators beat their domestic servitors

[light heron]

Called mine Hoyt.
I liked Training Day.

[rocky radish]

I called mine MaulCop

[tight heath]

Saw someone playing a female arbitrator and they named them judge dredd

[pure quail]

Paul Blart

[tight heath]

FUCK MAN JUST CALL THEM FUCKING ANDERSON MAN

FUCK

[tall grove]

Leftover from their “mag dump people fleeing in a vehicle” training

[river elbow]

Mines Proctor Kenai because I'm a fucking nerd.

[tight heath]

my arbitrator is Lex me solo her

[alpine talon]

Will tyrannids be added soon?

[pure quail]

if I get the dlc and make an arbitrator I will name them either Paul or Blart and there is nothing you can do to stop me

[jaunty path]

Nope

[light heron]

Don't forget all the BodyCamOff's.

[jaunty path]

Tyranids would kill us

[pure quail]

I have seen quite a lot of those actually

[light heron]

Nuh-uh.
Not if we eat 'em faster.

[gilded socket]

Hey! Im cool tho!!!

[pure quail]

Hi Cool Tho, I'm Aldeéra

[gilded socket]

Bi

[rocky radish]

I saw one called BodyCamsOn, and the mastiff was called something like HesLying

[pure quail]

no I am straight

[nocturne bloom]

Ive never ignored or blocked anyone

[gilded socket]

Gay

[river elbow]

I came across an Arbitrator named Shaggy and his Mastiff was Scooby.

[light heron]

Like a Roundabout.

[pure quail]

no that is the opposite

[gilded socket]

No

[pure quail]

I am going to start defenestrating people

[alpine talon]

Aww dang

[pure quail]

ok that is good too actually

[alpine talon]

Wanted to swhack some tyrannids

Are there alot of weapons in darktide per class to choose between

[pure quail]

quite a few yes

[jaunty path]

My mastiffs name is whitewomanbait

[pure quail]

ono

[astral basin]

I. Want candy

[rocky radish]

Darktide is surprisingly deep in terms of build customization

[river elbow]

Real. I'm an extrovert and always try befriend everyone.

[ancient violet]

Is it?

[gilded socket]

Hi bord

[pure quail]

I have candy, come here, my basement is filled with candy

[astral basin]

I want a treat. That cant be beat.

[nocturne bloom]

I dont try to befriend anyone
Bonds form naturally

[alpine talon]

Thats what I want to buy it seems rly fun

[astral basin]

I. Want candy.

[gilded socket]

Me too,,,,,,,,,,,

[nimble crystal]

Like chemistry?

[nocturne bloom]

Dollar General Sour Gummy Worms

[gilded socket]

Sour skittle gummy

[jaunty path]

I want this sticker

[astral basin]

Sir i work at a circle k

[pure quail]

chemistry is basically wizardry, and wizardry is heresy

[crisp yoke]

How’s everyone

[nimble crystal]

Bubble!

[round mica]

BLEEEH

[inner nimbus]

man, Dynasty Warriors Origins' Gauntlets have the funniest move

imagine the scenario, you go up against the enemy general

and he starts preparing his ultimate attack

he's glowing 3 different colors

there's particle effects blowing everywhere

[alpine talon]

How deep id this games build variety?

[river elbow]

Hello, oh great Warden of the Discord!

[light heron]

Survivin'.

[nimble crystal]

Is it bad
That I want to ask my wife to cosplay Pomni?

[inner nimbus]

and you proceed to roundhouse kick him like 20 meters into the air and powerbomb him

and immediately kill him

[gilded socket]

Hi nate

Where hank

[inner nimbus]

idk don't live with him

[lost flume]

Outside of really endgame you have a lot of options

[nimble crystal]

Dynasty warriors is peak

[gilded socket]

Why not

[round mica]

No
It's completely peak actually

I want mine to cosplay Pomni or Ragatha

[jaunty path]

No. Tell her to fo it

[inner nimbus]

it's pretty high, all classes can have very distinct feeling playstyles compared to other classes and I feel like it does a decent enough job encompassing most types of play, though be advised, the more 'DPS'-ish roles will usually be preferred

[round mica]

Missus are you still considering eating servitors

[inner nimbus]

I'd only hold him back

[ancient violet]

No

[astral basin]

Cosplay… ragatha…
wtf happened to raggedy Anne?

[alpine talon]

JUST BOUGHT DARKTIDE + ARBITES DLC

[ancient violet]

Psyker best class

Psyker win every game

[inner nimbus]

DWO is honestly really good, one of the best in the series I've played so far, especially in terms of gameplay

[alpine talon]

Installing now🔥

[ancient violet]

No variety

You heard it here first

[inner nimbus]

if you want, I can give you a rough breakdown over all the classes in a single sentence

[round mica]

Wrong
People can still be dogshit players

[inner nimbus]

though bear in mind

it's gonna be a gross overgeneralization

[pure quail]

zealot it up

[nimble crystal]

We will find out in March with Episode 8

[tight heath]

Hi nate

[round mica]

😭

[tight heath]

I apologize if this has been taken care of or is a dead horse but did you see any of the pings in the chat earlier?

[astral basin]

Gun, melee, big man, wizord, cop, hobo

[alpine talon]

Sure that would be amazing

[tall grove]

Dead horse
Very dead horse

[inner nimbus]

I have, I assumed they have been taken care of, if not I will review them later

[gilded socket]

Why

[alpine talon]

Im installing Darktide rn thanks for helping me everyone

[astral basin]

Brain rotted sum-
Aaaaa
Raggedy anne is the doll the character was designed after

[nimble crystal]

I know.

[tight heath]

It hasn’t unfortunately ): guy is still here

[astral basin]

AAAAAAA

[tight heath]

And he kept going lol so

[tall grove]

Good luck
Have fun killing poor people
For the emperor 🫡

[inner nimbus]

send me screencaps, I just got here

[tight heath]

It’s a bit complicated but sure can I dm ya?

@gilded socket @round mica dm me anything yall want me to add

Oh speak of the devil they’re here lmfao

[lost flume]

i will note all three are gonna actively misrepresent things and that Maxine in particular did so three times.

[tight heath]

Man

You called me a Nazi

For liking guy Hayley

Wrap it up bruh 😭

[alpine talon]

Thank u

[lost flume]

Your reading comprehension is not remotely my issue

[jaunty path]

They were deliberately being aggressive and instigating. And still are

[light heron]

Dude reads books.

[tight heath]

I have more but I went to the core of it of him calling me a Nazi nate if ya would like me to dm ty

[lost flume]

Guy Haley's writing is poor, it inadvertently loops into fascist apologia, and frankly I find your taste an issue. I said that people like you that don't want to admit the fandom has an issue are why the fandom keeps having this issue. I accused you of being media illiterate and having a fandom for a fictional space nazi. The latter I doubt you'll deny.

[whole glade]

i have found my new fav successor chapter

:3

[nocturne bloom]

Idk why people still use that word lmfao

[light heron]

Share. Share!

[alpine talon]

Which one?

[whole glade]

The Hammers of Dorn.

[tight heath]

You said and I quote
“I understand educating people that don't want to admit their fandom has a problem is a waste of time and energy but maybe ask yourself why the fandom keeps having a Nazi problem and maybe if Guy Haley is a contributor with "no, see, these are the good
Imperials...'”
“maybe look in the mirror next time you wonder why the fandom has a problem”

[light heron]

Niiice.

[tight heath]

You literally call me a Nazi there man…

That’s not reading comprehension

[gilded socket]

Uhhhh he was mean to me

[lost flume]

Bluntly put @inner nimbus I'd ask that you read the conversation as these three are active and in Maxine's case maliciously disingenuous participants in it up to and past the point of ignores

[inner nimbus]

Veteran - utility-loaded ranged weapons specialist, though not always at far range, Vets have a lot of stuff in their toolkit to make their guns the best version compared to most other classes. the 'Anchor' of a team
Zealot - close ranged aggressive melee specialists, Zealot's toolkit rewards you for understanding how to fight in melee by letting you do it even harder. the 'Berserker' or 'Assassin' of a team
Psyker - universal DPS class, although squishier than most, they do have good survivability, but almost their entire kit is geared towards pumping damage in some form or making it easier for others to do so
Ogryn - a powerhouse class, excelling at overwhelming offense or defense, though rather slow, especially when compared to other classes
Arbitrator - defensive, stagger-heavy powerhouse, meant to hold the line and hold it well. dog lets them act as a puppet character and further emphasizes their damage and control, or they can forgo it to become The Wall
Scum - dodge-focused aggressors, Scummers are perfect for people who always want to be doing something. high execution nets them, maybe not a high reward, but a unique one, as their gameplay is pretty unique compared to others

aaand I shall try, worst case scenario I might confer with other mods on how best to proceed

[tight heath]

Can I dm you screenshots please?

It says your DMs are off thank you

[whole glade]

whas the beef

[inner nimbus]

right they are

[tight heath]

Not important

It’s being taken care of

[tall grove]

Dude ragging on grandpa for liking guy haley

[whole glade]

huh

[tight heath]

[alpine talon]

Damn thank u this helps a ton

[inner nimbus]

try now

[tall grove]

Did I stutter?

[light heron]

Huh?

[whole glade]

da hell dat mean

[alpine talon]

Is the hivescum harder to master?

Im installing rn can't wait to play it

[gilded socket]

Hi kozzy !!!!!!!!!!!

[tight heath]

It’s not important

I’d move on

[hidden whale]

are they still arguing about literature

lmao

go outside

[tight heath]

As the person in question

[tall grove]

He called bro a Nazi for liking guy haley
What’s not to understand

[urban dove]

Probably yes, but also one of the better to learn first

dodging is universally the best defensive option no matter your class

[inner nimbus]

perhaps? Hive Scummers can't take many hits, especially on higher difficulties

[whole glade]

haley?

[jaunty path]

Yea but all you need to do is learn how to dodge and maneuver. After that you have a broken class

[whole glade]

who

[tall grove]

His name is Guy Haley
He’s a Warhammer writer

[tight heath]

40K writer

[pine cedar]

For me he’s harder on how slow your reaction time is

[tight heath]

@tall grove hey man I’m talking to a mod now we can drop it

[whole glade]

ohhhhhhhh

[tight heath]

As the one involved

I don’t want this to be all this server is

I appreciate it

[alpine talon]

Gotcha

[tight heath]

But it’s wasting ppls times

[urban dove]

with shivs and melee focused you can literally mash left click and dodge like a rhythm game and be safe for 95% of the game tbh

[alpine talon]

Is there a roadmap for this game or not?

[nocturne bloom]

Tbf you kept talking about it here instead of the mods dms, this was bound to happen

[tight heath]

Cough cough needle pistol solos havoc 30 cough cough

[tight heath]

I can’t dm the mods

[pure quail]

@alpine talon the best tip that I don't think is explained anywhere, the seemingly random sound stings you'll hear, it's your 'sixth sense' letting you know something is about to swing at you

[tight heath]

If you scroll up

You can see I had to ask one

[pine cedar]

I believe so

[tight heath]

[whole glade]

is guy like a weirdo or sun?

[light heron]

Not a clear one, really.

[tight heath]

No

[pine cedar]

Idk how far it goes but that’s when we found out about hive scum

[tight heath]

He’s just a writer

[nocturne bloom]

Wouldn't that be your security settings you can change at will

[tight heath]

THE MOD

HAD HIS DMS OFF

😭

[alpine talon]

Ah gotcha thanks

[nimble crystal]

Guarantee you if I made a Hivescum I will still suck ass

[tight heath]

Do not fear lil un

Ogryn is here

[orchid lynx]

I like his curze and perturabo books

[nocturne bloom]

Same point different person

[pure quail]

do not worry, when you die you will not have died in vain if it was in the name of the emperor

[tight heath]

Ight bruh I don’t get your point

I’m moving on

[tight heath]

Nice! He’s fun I actually have a dawn of fire novel on me rn

[pine cedar]

Best thing about hive scum is that he can make every weapon good

[nimble crystal]

But Hivescum aren't dying for the Emperor. They are dying for coin

[twin flower]

[astral basin]

Theres a case study thats been conducted
21% of the studied were functionally illiterate, 54% in the US had below a 6th grade reading level (meaning they struggled with general comprehension)

[pure quail]

then you will have died in vain

[twin flower]

is chat ok now

[tight heath]

Yeah

[pine cedar]

So you don’t have to worry about trying a new weapon is cause 9/10 it’s good for him

[twin flower]

Noice

[tight heath]

My train is finally moving

I’ve been on this fucking train for two hours bruh

[nimble crystal]

I do like the look of those dual uzis

[tight heath]

Someone got uh injured

Cause idk if I can say the other thing

And we’ve been stuck for a LONG time

Because of it

[nimble crystal]

That

Is horrible

[tight heath]

Sadly this is like

The 4th time

I’ve dealt with this recently

[alpine talon]

What weapon does a hivescum class use?

[tight heath]

Welcome to America whooo

[nocturne bloom]

War

[twin flower]

trens go choo

[urban dove]

meth

[twin flower]

Wagh?!

[orchid lynx]

He do be fun all tho I find Aaron Dembski Bowden to be a bit more of my style. (The night lords 3logy my beloved)

[nimble crystal]

Ive been practicing a song where that exact thing is implied too

[nocturne bloom]

[tight heath]

I get that

[nimble crystal]

And the body goes SPLAT

[gilded socket]

Sleepy,,,,,,,,,

[jaunty path]

Sleep

[pine cedar]

Unique weapons are poison weapons like the needle gun and bonesaw. He also has duel wield weapons. Everything else is standard like rifles, shotguns, chain swords

[twin flower]

[pure quail]

sleep is for the weak

[gilded socket]

Nah,,,,,,,

[gilded socket]

Nooooo

[twin flower]

Now hol on

[orchid lynx]

Energy drink

[inner nimbus]

we have a modmail exactly for this

[tight heath]

Didn’t ya say ya went to bed

[tight heath]

didn’t know my bad, happy it got resolved now

Idk if anyone here did

[lethal solstice]

Their unique melee are all improvised, their ranged is either dual wielded or esoteric, and their collection of shared weapons are all kinetic unpowered weapons (with the exception of Chainsword)

[gilded socket]

No

[tight heath]

Mb then

[gilded socket]

Already gulped a rebull today

[gilded socket]

Np

[astral basin]

Aaaa

[nimble crystal]

But did you fly?

[alpine talon]

Ah

Seems rly neat

[gilded socket]

Yeahh

[pine cedar]

He can make the underpowered weapons work tho I’d say. Mainly cause of pickpocket tho

[lethal solstice]

Pickpocket and rampage

Heavy sword scum is absolutely disgusting

[hollow cosmos]

Omg i still can't post pics in media

[orchid lynx]

Ah, no more then. Use mental fortitude instead

[gilded socket]

Yeahh

[tight heath]

Gotta keep talking

[trail bramble]

need to talk until you get red role

[hollow cosmos]

How long is that gonna take?

[pine cedar]

Which version? Or is it all of them?

[trail bramble]

oop now you can post in media

[lethal solstice]

Basically all of them but the mk9 has the moveset I hate the least

[nimble crystal]

Or just forget that you're a part of the server for a year..

[pine cedar]

Bet I’ll try that next

[paper bluff]

Should the world be mildly terrified that I’ve begun using Orc power of belief and thus far it’s working?

[tight heath]

You just got it lmfao

[lethal solstice]

Deathblow Headtaker flak maniac/carapace

[nimble crystal]

Nah, I'd win

[wintry steeple]

we want to filter bad actors and encourage quality posts
introduce post requirement
new users are taught they have to spam 50-100 messages before becoming a full fledged Citizen™
bit of a double edged sword isnt it

[jaunty path]

Remember

[tight heath]

Eh

[orchid lynx]

See I have the opposite problem. I want to sleep but can not

[jaunty path]

No matter what ppl say

Dclaw is peak weapon

[lethal solstice]

Its an anti bot measure

I have never seen one of those 4 image mr beast scams here

so it works

[pine cedar]

YES

My fav weapon to use to fight DH

or the Bonk Hammer

[gilded socket]

Ooofffff

[wintry steeple]

what was the goal of this ping

[orchid lynx]

[hidden whale]

hi

:3

[lethal solstice]

Record it

[formal mortar]

That is working as intended

[alpine talon]

Is it the more damage a Hivescum does the more buff it gets and stacks?

[lethal solstice]

Not really

Everyone has on hit conditionals

[formal mortar]

On hit or on kill

[lethal solstice]

Scum just does a lot of damage

[formal mortar]

Scum also dies easily to balance that

[lethal solstice]

Most of it comes from two of their active abilities, Desperado and Rampage

Desperado gives infinite ammo and ranged immunity

[urban dove]

a lot of crit a lot of attack speed, a lot of survivability if you know how to use it but when you get hit you really feel it

[wintry steeple]

'more buffs and stacks' is such a zero-information phrase you could stretch it to include 'damage instances' in which case: yes

click the enemy's weakpoint for massive damage

[lethal solstice]

Rampage gives 50% melee strength (which is 50% damage, cleave, and stagger), with the option to get up to 75% with an upgrade

[vague aurora]

I have a problem.

Me and my group of people that play DT are getting into Havocs. So far, so good. We only recently hit a roadblock around the H20 mark and we can't really make any headway.

Everytime this happens, one person in particular goes "if only we had X on our team, we would have won" or "Next time you should bring Y".

[lethal solstice]

And both of these can be extended forever

[vague aurora]

The issue is that no one except me plays more than one class and I'm the designated "floater". What should I do?

[twin flower]

What was your team composition like

[nimble crystal]

Nah, its skill isaue

[wintry steeple]

record their every mistake into an embarrassing montage
and then tell them to jump in a lake

[lethal solstice]

Whats your team

Also

[urban dove]

they both cap at 30s with upgrades no?

[alpine talon]

Hmm I think im mistaking it with pyscher

[formal mortar]

Isn't this a bad week for havoc?

[twin flower]

Real

[urban dove]

I meant to reply this with my cap at 30s comment

[lethal solstice]

Sounds like you're getting filtered by the enemy stat bump from actually being in Damnation

[lethal solstice]

Psyker is the best class in the game hands down

[lethal solstice]

You can absolutely get it longer

[orchid lynx]

Not the best since cranial bug is still in, other then that a regular week

[urban dove]

they cap at 30 and then the cooldown starts after it, unless im missing tech

oh diminished but not zerod

[alpine talon]

Its more like a typical hack and slash class?

[urban dove]

reading comprehension

[formal mortar]

That's what I meant

[alpine talon]

I think imma mainly Arbi and veteran most likely

[lethal solstice]

Its really whatever you want

[formal mortar]

Thanks

[twin flower]

That'd be Zealot

[lethal solstice]

They make everything good

You can do melee extremely well
You can do ranged sustain or burst
You can do pure AOE damage or aoe CC

[alpine talon]

Oh pyscher is the mage class of the game

I heard something like that before

[orchid lynx]

I've been playing it just fine just gotta avoid that cranial

[twin flower]

How far along have you guys been playing

[lethal solstice]

Yeah, and like a real wizard they either do spells or just ball the fuck out with a sword

Or both

You can easily do both

[orchid lynx]

We got a lot of new players recently it seems.

[alpine talon]

Umm like maybe 2 hours on gamepass just bought darktide and the arbi class on steam like mins ago

Installing the game rn

[twin flower]

Wait, how are you guys on Havoc already

[vague aurora]

wrong person

[lethal solstice]

Arby is neat but has a build variety problem

[vague aurora]

that'd be me

[alpine talon]

Huh

[lethal solstice]

No matter what you do you condense into a CC frontliner

[orchid lynx]

Your group is pretty new as well tho right?

[twin flower]

Oh shoot lmao mb

[vague aurora]

Well, sort of. I have about 300 hours averaged in all six classes, whereas the person in question exclusively plays Scum.

But this is the first week I've done havocs.

[lethal solstice]

a lot of success in havoc can be gained from learning some basic ish but hidden info about the game

[twin flower]

Havocs kinda scuffed rn, so I'd prolly stay trying Maelstrom atm

[lethal solstice]

Like level triggers

How stuff spawns