general-chat

[slate skiff]

[fossil oasis]

Working from home sounds hellish honestly. I would hate for my own home to become my work space, no seperation then from them

My mum suggested me getting an IT Job and looking at work from home but no thanks, absolutely not

[somber stream]

Depends largely on your personal preference on this, honestly. But it has more pros than cons to working from home. I love not having to spend 1 - 2 hours a day commuting. Also you get to have fresh meals lol

There's always the option to just turn off any and all work noti after working hour (should your country allow you such a thing)

[fossil oasis]

Yeah, I see the pros, but I like to be able to associate home with relaxation and not also the same feelings associated with work

[odd rock]

Figured out the exploit

It’s sprint cancel with sciers to avoid peril pop

[formal mortar]

Most jobs send you equipment to use from home too. So you can keep that separate, make it a separate area too.

[buoyant nexus]

sorry i cant find a straight fucking answer lol

do crits have increased armor pen

[somber stream]

Totally valid point. Human interactions is also important for your psyche as well. We weren't made to spend most of a day alone in a room

[lethal solstice]

yes

[buoyant nexus]

shooting a crusher gives orange hitmarkers instead of blue so im trying to figure out if i should go for another 10% crit or get 10% rending

[lethal solstice]

Its weird

[buoyant nexus]

yea sure is 😵‍💫

[formal mortar]

I'm getting pizza and a ride home tonight

It's a glorious day

[jaunty path]

Legit

Super Monkey ball was on some shit

[fossil oasis]

I do not have the space in my home for that

Maybe when I move out but not right now

[somber stream]

A separate space for work is definitely crucial if you're to WFH in the long run

[fossil oasis]

I wish I could just find another bar to work at honestly, that's where I wanna be rn

I fuckin wish bar work could be something I could make a career out of and actually paid well too, like not just some minimum wage shit job

[somber stream]

It's not a thing in America?

[fossil oasis]

???

I'm not American

[low glen]

anyone know the reason for Barred/square names? prof filter is already off

[nocturne bloom]

Even worse, French

[somber stream]

Professional Bartender is a thing in Europe, there are schools for these thing as well

[fossil oasis]

Not French either

[somber stream]

Canadian?

[fossil oasis]

Wrong continent still

[nocturne bloom]

Theres a profession for it but its pretty saturated with the sheer amount of places that serve alcohol

[somber stream]

True, but it's still an option if you wish to swing it

[nocturne bloom]

If youre genuinely talented a high paying place will gobble you up though

[desert cobalt]

Which class has the power sword?

[nocturne bloom]

Or yknow, lie on the resume

[fossil oasis]

Pretty much all bar work here is minimum wage, even being a cocktail bartender too which requires a lot more skill. Hotels might pay you a lil more if it's a fancy place but it's still close to minimum wage

[nocturne bloom]

Vet

[somber stream]

Guy i know moved from Serbia to Finland and is now making 3k+ a month serving booze

[fossil oasis]

Vet

[somber stream]

Lotsa drama in that kind of enviroment, last i heard lol

[nocturne bloom]

3k in what currency

[somber stream]

Euro

[nocturne bloom]

Its taxing

[modest flume]

@hazy kestrel that's depressing

[nocturne bloom]

People spill a lot when they get buzzed, part of the profession is hearing people lives

[hazy kestrel]

It was fun though!

[somber stream]

Nowhere near as many drama as a kitchen, but it's up there

[modest flume]

That would've been an easy win if they paid attention

[hazy kestrel]

Had the kitchen sink thrown at us lol

[hazy kestrel]

Also, true

[modest flume]

I tried to throw a nade/medkit down

[fossil oasis]

The nightclub I was workin at wasn't too bad tbh, the regulars where nice for the most part, just certain people being rude every so often

[somber stream]

Oh they told me all about it, some funny, some sad. It's part of the job

[modest flume]

but muties kept bullshitting me lol

just to get some space to re-stack FNP

[nocturne bloom]

Not too bad, little less than what I can rake in at my job

[hazy kestrel]

Want to do another maelstrom, lights out or “regular” auric?

[nocturne bloom]

Afaik its what makes more people quit than anything. Depending on where you serve it can genuinely be overwhelming

[modest flume]

what's the mael

[blazing ibex]

ya'll playin?

[fossil oasis]

If I worked 40 hours a week, every week, for a month, i'd make just under 2k before tax, for basically any bar job because it's impossible to find somewhere paying more than minimum for this shit

[hazy kestrel]

Hunting grounds, Nurgle’s blessing, reduced ability cooldown.

[hazy kestrel]

Yeah

[modest flume]

might just go back to vet, everyone is allergic to specialists

[hazy kestrel]

Want to join?

[blazing ibex]

Good for one game ye

Got Pathfinder at 8:30

[modest flume]

If there's one thing I hate more than losing, it's losing because of stupid shit

[hazy kestrel]

So true lmao

[nocturne bloom]

I always tip a bartender well if they know exactly what I need though. Even if not i toss a little extra

[somber stream]

Tax in Finland is brutal, so the guy take home about 2k every month, that was 3 years ago

[night spire]

my mods consistantly reload mid match

any1 else know whats going on

[fossil oasis]

I'd be having less than 2k after tax so

[nocturne bloom]

Each paycheck i have around $500 taken out for taxes, retirement, insurance etc

But tbf i told them to take the maximum out for taxes

[somber stream]

Yeah unless you really enjoy bartending and the stories, it's not an easy job at all, taking in all those negativities day after day

Sure you can just ignore them, but then you wouldn't make for a good bartender

[fossil oasis]

Honestly the hardest part about it for me so far has been the late nights

[nocturne bloom]

Some people like it though. Hearing others people's history scratches the itch for some

[fossil oasis]

I'm not a fan of working from 10pm - 5am

Otherwise I can deal with people just fine, most people are nice too, so it's a fun social job

[nocturne bloom]

Thats usually what I work plus one hour on days that need weather treatment

[graceful hamlet]

I don’t miss the night shift

[fossil oasis]

It why it annoys me so much tho, I enjoy the job but the pay is shit and I keep getting pressured that I need to get a "proper" job as if bartending isn't real

[somber stream]

For me a 'real' job is one with enough pay and sustainable till i reach my 60s

Hell i plan to work till the day i die

[cerulean panther]

where do i get scriptures or grimoirs

[fossil oasis]

Certain missions on the mission board will have side objective modifiers to find scriptures or grimoires

[cerulean panther]

oh ok

[fossil oasis]

Don't pick up Grimoires though

Unless you're runnin with a team explicitly looking to get them

[cerulean panther]

why?

[stark bobcat]

always grim

it talks to you : )

[fossil oasis]

They give the entire team a fixed amount of corruption that you cannot get rid of

[cerulean panther]

ah

[fossil oasis]

Usually enough to mostly fill a wound

[round mica]

ok

this signalis puzzle

pissed me off

[fossil oasis]

Did you finish it at least?

[round mica]

yeah i got to the boss fight

but im leaving it for tomorrow

already too stresse

[fossil oasis]

That's fair

My partner has played some of Signalis

I've not played it

[round mica]

very good

doomed yuri plot with top down old resident evil/silent hill gameplay

[fossil oasis]

Seems kinda peak

[round mica]

it is

[winged oasis]

is there a chart for all weakspots on heresy level goobers

[modest flume]

heads

BoN is the boil on the back

[winged oasis]

even the armored heads?

[modest flume]

They're only flak with the exception of the mauler and crusher

Crusher has full carapace, Mauler has carapace helmet

[winged oasis]

how do i get the shield ogryn to stop shielding

[blazing ibex]

i feel like the spawns on that maelstrom either were too easy

[modest flume]

Bait his swipe attack

[hazy kestrel]

Seems like I had an itchy trigger finger when it came to poxbursters last round lmao.

[modest flume]

Dodge to the left

[blazing ibex]

or we did it so fast that it didn't spawn enough to compensate for our pace

[modest flume]

(Bulwarks are still a pain in the ass)

[hazy kestrel]

First the one knife I randomly threw into the horde, then the point blank bolter magdump at the end lmao

[winged oasis]

im sniper veteran

[hazy kestrel]

Was hella fun regardless lol

[blazing ibex]

IT WAS YOU.

[modest flume]

What does that mean

Why are you shooting bulwarks

[winged oasis]

it means im not usually in front of the bulwarks

[hazy kestrel]

It was an accident, probably

[modest flume]

COWER! FLEE!

Also thanks for getting the reference

[winged oasis]

because they're gonna be a problem for everyone else that's fighting in front of me?

[blazing ibex]

I can't believe that you hit a poxburster that made me get ledged at the very end.

Yes, the poxburster did that.

Obviously.

[modest flume]

Well either you flank or bait them to attack, not much that can force them to fall

[hazy kestrel]

That was a sick side dodge lmao.

Almost stuck the landing.

[blazing ibex]

I got caught on that protruding part of the rail and it made me go off to the side.

[modest flume]

That was funny

[blazing ibex]

Hive Scum moment

[whole glade]

i feel like im living in a black mirror episode

[modest flume]

Average Scum side dodge moment:

[whole glade]

im tired of the world boss....

[gilded socket]

Aren’t we all

[hazy kestrel]

Might I suggest a remedy of completely ignoring world events for maybe 3 months?

It does wonders for your quality of life.

[fossil oasis]

Side dodged off the map and got myself killed at the start of a mission like that once

[nocturne bloom]

im not

[fossil oasis]

We hadn't even encountered enemies yet

[hazy kestrel]

Mood

[whole glade]

i cant when i live in a shit state bubba

[hazy kestrel]

A red state? My condolences.

[modest flume]

IMO? If I'm not hearing sirens go off, then it's not that bad

[whole glade]

oh deff

[hazy kestrel]

Fair.

[modest flume]

Now if I do, well

[whole glade]

and not the good kinda red

[nocturne bloom]

aw ty

[hazy kestrel]

Though the Gestapo are scurrying around parts of my state again.

[nocturne bloom]

[hazy kestrel]

Very fun. Not really.

[modest flume]

Most if not all issues are just because the people in place to prevent them are in on said issues or don't care, usually mutually exclusive, so

[hazy kestrel]

So true.

[whole glade]

we arent getting any bc its mostly bible bumping white people

[fossil oasis]

Isn't it bible bashing not bumping?

[hazy kestrel]

That must be nice. Well, relatively speaking.

[modest flume]

True, bibles make good bashers

[fossil oasis]

They do

[hazy kestrel]

The hard cover ones are quite heavy.

[whole glade]

i just hold my trusty communist manifesto when they try coming to my door

[fossil oasis]

Arguably just as bad

[modest flume]

(A different flavored bible)

[whole glade]

explain?

[hazy kestrel]

An old friend of mine used to have the manifesto with them all the time.

[whole glade]

they must be based as hell

[modest flume]

Either way, GGs @blazing ibex and, @hazy kestrel, we've finally played together

[hazy kestrel]

I don’t know much of what happened to them after high school way back when. Though they did go far-left in their politics, as far as I heard, so that’s pretty neat.

[blazing ibex]

Now to go to Havoc together

[modest flume]

[whole glade]

truly one good friend there bubba

[blazing ibex]

So I will unlock my true Scum powers

[modest flume]

Well normally I go for Havoc as you know

But we were waiting on others who never got back to us

Which is very rude honestly

[whole glade]

"hey which class do you play in games?" the fat one.

[modest flume]

[hazy kestrel]

Don’t think I have it in me anymore for havoc lmao. I can’t stand Dukane’s voice, and depending on the modifier gambling, some high havocs can be a hell of a slog.

[modest flume]

But consider the following

You have not only Goblin, but me holding your hand

[fossil oasis]

Carry me to Havoc 25 from Havoc 16 instead. (I assume up to 25 isn't as bad as it could be)

[whole glade]

I love rewatching animes i used to watch as a lil fella

[fossil oasis]

Highest Havoc i've played is 14

[modest flume]

Are you kidding me? Why didn't you hop on earlier?

[hazy kestrel]

I’ve lost my havoc magic pal, I got the penances and dipped as soon as the last reset happened.

[modest flume]

I've carried multiple people into 30+

[fossil oasis]

I could have tbh but like idk

[modest flume]

Well no need to be shy, I can carry you

[fossil oasis]

Would probably have been better than sat here fixing my FO4 mod list

[modest flume]

I've carried Mundane from like 16 to 35

[fossil oasis]

Oh peak

[hazy kestrel]

Do ya use wabbajack? Makes life hella easier lmao.

[fossil oasis]

Wabbajack?

Nope, never heard of it

[modest flume]

You don't know the magic cheese wand?

[hazy kestrel]

It’s a modlist collection that relies on MO2

[modest flume]

??????????????????????????????

[fossil oasis]

Huh??

[modest flume]

???????????????????????????????????????

[hazy kestrel]

Plenty of modlists for various games. Though I’ve only used it for Skyrim.

[fossil oasis]

Oh right, I should probably switch over to MO2 tbh

[modest flume]

I've just consolidated into Vortex for FO3/NV/4/Skyrim I just don't give a fuck anymore

Haven't had issues

[hazy kestrel]

Reject Vortex, Return to a functioning mod manager.

[fossil oasis]

I still need to figure out what mods I'm actually gonna keep in my mods though and if there's anything else I want first, that's most of what it has been so far

[whole glade]

add a book and hammer weapon for zealy and my life is yours

[modest flume]

(RIP FOMM)

[hazy kestrel]

Fair, I just find vortex cumbersome, MO2 is much better imo.

[fossil oasis]

Once I get it sorted and know what i'm gonna use, i'll put it all in a collection on Nexus then get it into MO2 I think

[modern bobcat]

If he was on OnlyPrimarchs, his name would be Rogal Porn

[modest flume]

I'm not disagreeing, yes it is

Having to swap between game profiles and shit is beyond cumbersome

But when you get used to it, not too bad

[fossil oasis]

What's wrong with Vortex though? I hear it's bad but I don't really know why since it's the only mod manager i've used besides Arsenal for HD2

[hazy kestrel]

Look into some modlists pal, you’ll be happy you did.

[fossil oasis]

I don't doubt it's bad, I just don't know what makes it so

[modest flume]

But seriously @fossil oasis, I don't mind helping you out with Havoc

Not tonight though, but maybe later in the week

[hazy kestrel]

Just a bit of a cumbersome, buggy mess in my experience.

But that’s just me.

[fossil oasis]

Yeah, it's like 4:30am rn for me anyway so i'll probably be sleepin soon

Thank u tho, I should be able to hop on through the week at some point

[modest flume]

I'm going to sleep soon as well

[fossil oasis]

Idm when

[floral ermine]

MO2 is just hassle free and u cant brick your game with it ever

[hazy kestrel]

Yeah, virtual machine goes brrrr

[modest flume]

Just hit me up when you're available and I'll let you know if I'm good to go

[fossil oasis]

Ah fair. Tbh also the having to switch between game profiles that Bushman said is annoying too

[fossil oasis]

Yeah absolutely, will do. Thank u :3

Think I might have a hot chocolate with a huge marshmallow before bed

[slate surge]

Why do some YouTubers say vet is like cheating?

[stark bobcat]

what

[slate surge]

I get two elite melees and I'm dead

[stark bobcat]

well that is just skill issue. but cheating?

[slate surge]

Mister E to name one

[stark bobcat]

ahhh

makes sense

ignore them

they just post videos for views

[slate surge]

Oohhh kk

[stark bobcat]

not accurate information

[slate surge]

I just did a auric run (new player) and arbiters felt like God mode

[stark bobcat]

Whats arby for you

[slate surge]

Electric dog and castigators

[round mica]

Dawg

[quaint moss]

dog best

mans best

[slate surge]

I went lone wolf first. But gameplay wise, something was off

Then dog made the class whole

[fossil oasis]

Dog is great but I love the lonewolf benefits too much

Those regen grenades and high attack speed

[slate surge]

Yeah. Also my style

But builds feel incomplete

Like you re still leveling to unlock skils

[winged oasis]

can we cook grenades ?

[jade stump]

Fuse time starts when tossed

[slate surge]

Is it possible to run havoc with pug groups?

[stark bobcat]

yes

[jade stump]

Party finder

[languid hazel]

Yes.

[fossil oasis]

Yeah, gotta use the team finder though

[winged oasis]

well thats annoying

[slate surge]

Like to get to 40?

[stark bobcat]

yes

[fossil oasis]

Yeah

Gonna be harder than running with a coordinated team though

[languid hazel]

The fuses on the grenades are so short that giving us the option to cook them would be a horrible idea

Also if the fuses were longer

They’d be worthless

[fossil oasis]

Yeah this tbh ^

[slate surge]

Ye half the team would be death by then

[languid hazel]

I need those grenades tossed NOW!!!

[fossil oasis]

If you could cook them, new players would be blowing themselves up constantly, expecting a regualr shooters fuse time

[languid hazel]

not in five seconds

[slate surge]

I still don't know how to fight ragers

[languid hazel]

Block, let your teammates handle them :3

[fossil oasis]

Block and heavy attack, and lots of dodging

[stark bobcat]

ranged weapons, stagger, or kill them before they do their combo

[fossil oasis]

Parry works well too

[languid hazel]

Or brute force the fuck outta them :3

[stark bobcat]

if you cant do any of the above block if you have stam or back dodge if possible

[fiery wave]

Don't argue with him over strongest, you WILL lose in more ways than one.

[outer jasper]

devil claw sword spam parry

[hollow nebula]

Ask them kindly to stop hitting you

[slate surge]

You can parry overhead crusher attacks ... According to some youtuber

[fossil oasis]

Doubtful

[fiery wave]

You can. You just need to perfect parry.

[fossil oasis]

But yeah parrying is a great way to deal with ragers tbh

Dueling Sword Parry has saved me many times

[fiery wave]

0.3 sec before it hits you. Devil's Claw.

[slate surge]

Ye. That's not gonna happen with my skill cap lol

[fossil oasis]

Is Devils Claw actually good or is the parry mechanic on it just good?

[slate surge]

Average enjoyer

[fiery wave]

It's meh. Just EXTREMELY safe.

[fossil oasis]

Fair enough

My problem with it is that it just doesn't feel good to use tbh

[languid hazel]

From my understanding the dclaw is the most bland, play-it-safe melee in the game

[fiery wave]

DS parry has a not parry state if you spam. DC can be 100% in parry.

[languid hazel]

Not really great for more than beginners

[fossil oasis]

Definetly feels like it

[hazy kestrel]

I too do not enjoy taking the rest of the century to kill a single crusher.

[fossil oasis]

That's kinda cool then ig

[slate surge]

Try to parry an attack when you have 8+ plus enemies hitting you

[hazy kestrel]

Just parry.

[fiery wave]

Basically, if you wanna use it, you better have rending or brittle nodes in tree or so.

[fossil oasis]

You can do that

[fossil oasis]

That and also it just doesn't feel strong

[hazy kestrel]

So true.

[slate surge]

So. Priority parry over attack?

[fossil oasis]

Depends on the situation

[fiery wave]

With DC and a rager swarm? Yes.

[hazy kestrel]

Rager train? Parry spam.

Lmao

[slate surge]

Kk

[fiery wave]

Hold block and parry spam.

Block is just in case you do get hit, you will still block.

[nocturne bloom]

play helldivers, do everything in 20 min, run to extract, level 130 kills me with tesla, leaves samples and doesnt respawn me

wasted 20 min

[hazy kestrel]

Peak.

I mean, bleak.

[fossil oasis]

Peam

[nocturne bloom]

best part is that guy died over 10 times with the other 2 while i ran solo with 1 death

[hazy kestrel]

Lmao

[nocturne bloom]

i had like 40 samps on me

[fiery wave]

This is why I hate friendly fire. Any game with it, I end up eating more damage from idiots than any enemy.

[slate surge]

Sounds like when you run from the other side of the map to revive a teammate. Only To leaving you to die being a few steps away later in the run

[nocturne bloom]

dude is like twice my level, i shouldnt need to explain how he is an idiot

to himself

[slate surge]

Some people play online like solo games

[hazy kestrel]

I love when that happens.

I wish all mid-revive leavers a terrible day.

[fiery wave]

It doesn't matter though. Solo? Eh. Griefing though, those types should never be allowed to game

Or banned off anything that has multiplayer.

[slate surge]

Lol

DT does a good job pushing team play though

[fiery wave]

You still get idiots.

[slate surge]

I'm helldiver you can go the otherside of the map and be just fine if you know how to sneak

In*

[fiery wave]

You can do the same if you have stealth or can precisely blam disablers.

Why you find speedrunners.

Or looters.

[slate surge]

I think I still need practice. Maelstrom auric is a total chaos to me

[hazy kestrel]

You’ll get there eventually pal.

Maelstroms can be hectic.

[fiery wave]

That is, auric was made harder generally.

No rest times, just gotta loot fast and gas gas gas.

[hazy kestrel]

I do enjoy taking detours to delete daemonhosts though.

[modern bobcat]

Check the Maelstrom modifiers/special conditions first

[slate surge]

Ye maelstroms are supposed to be a somewhat entry point to havoc

[modern bobcat]

One of the easiest Auric Maelstrom types is no ammo pickups + Scab faction only

[slate surge]

According to me anyway

[modern bobcat]

if you play a melee focused class

[gloomy void]

Darktide

[fiery wave]

WDYM, I can't shoot?

[modern bobcat]

The Maelstrom conditions can completely change how well it goes on pubs

Lights Out is almost always a party wipe on public matches

[fiery wave]

STARES AT GANGER WITH PICKPOCKET.

[hazy kestrel]

Karien, you mean to tell me you don’t go out of your way to delete daemonhosts as a thammer zealot?

[modern bobcat]

Hunting Grounds + Specialists become Weakened Monstrosities is also an easy one

[hazy kestrel]

It’s part of the job.

At least for me.

[modern bobcat]

@slate surge If you pick the right Maelstrom conditions, you can carry a bad team

[fiery wave]

I don't like slow weapons. Relic is the slowest I use.

[buoyant nexus]

nice ragebait

[fiery wave]

And I still miss my stabby thing.

[hazy kestrel]

What is a daemonhost but a large and angry nail?

Thammer goes bonk!

[modern bobcat]

Scab + no ammo is extremely easy

You take guns that use little ammo

like Bolt Pistol

Can easily finish that with a melee focused build and Bistol for specials

Did it the other day with 72 ammo remaining from initial ammo pool

[fiery wave]

Cos blind unless you cheat in the many cheat ways.

[slate surge]

On veteran I die a lot to waves

[hazy kestrel]

Ah, my favorite modifier.

More daemonhosts to delete.

[modern bobcat]

Are you using the Shout ability?

[fiery wave]

72??? Do 8/80.

[slate surge]

Almost on cd

[modern bobcat]

If you're having trouble with hordes, get Shout so you can boost your TGHness and push enemies away, and something with good crowd damage like Power Sword

[fiery wave]

What even is your melee?

[fossil oasis]

What difficulty you playing?

[modern bobcat]

He's trying Auric Maelstroms rn

[fossil oasis]

Probably just need a better build then or just higher skill

Or better weapons

[fiery wave]

That's a choice though, sounds like not ready for auric maels.

[fossil oasis]

True

[modern bobcat]

It depends, joining random games with bad modifiers can be really offputting at first

[fiery wave]

If you die to just hordes.

[slate surge]

Trying power falchion rn

[hazy kestrel]

Almost 11:30, time to sleep.

[fossil oasis]

Goodnight :3

Sleep well

[hazy kestrel]

[modern bobcat]

I don't like the Falchion so much, depending on which Mk you use though that could be part of the problem

[fossil oasis]

Not a terrible weapon tbh but it basically always needs to be powered on to be effective imo

[slate surge]

@modern bobcat practicing auric maelstroms

[vague elm]

Greetings.....Heretics

[fiery wave]

Oh, I know. Dropped into lights out slways gets . Or that one time I got dropped into a game with a DH on a psyker and no other players.

[elder merlin]

[fiery wave]

I wonder if someone provoked and left.

[modern bobcat]

When I got Auric Storm Survivor yesterday, it was purely off the back of that Zealot build + choosing the right modifiers

I matched into a Lights Out game and immediately quit

because 2 players were already down

[fossil oasis]

Only time I've been particularly bad at Auric Maelstrom was running a stealth martyrdom build on knife zealot

Otherwise i'm somewhere between ok and good depending on modifiers and class and if i've had something to drink

[fiery wave]

It's mediocrity to the max. Doesn't have the oomph like powersword and lacks mobility of faster stuff. Oh and the CC is also worse than the humble shovel.

[slate surge]

I was particularly bad at tracking what was happening on the battlefield and not blowing up by that stupid psyker resource management mechanic

[blazing ibex]

it unironically is for psyker when you have a semblance of understanding of how to play the class

[fiery wave]

I got into whatever friends or ppl I met on the Discord picked. I do play ridiculously safe usually though.

[fossil oasis]

Thought you where playin vet since you said you where running power fachion?

Psyker is a hard beginner class tbh

[fiery wave]

Ppl can play multiple classes.

[fossil oasis]

Yeah I know but talkin within the context of not being able to deal with hordes and the weapon being used for it

Fuck its 5:30am, I meant to go to bed like an hour ago

[slate surge]

Yeah. But I've tried other classes. To get an idea of anyone can do

[fossil oasis]

Yeah thats fair then

[modern bobcat]

One of the Zealot builds Ainz has on GameLantern is really good for powering through Maelstrom

[slate surge]

Lol. Will do. For da emprah!!!

[fossil oasis]

Goodnight chat, I must sleep

[fiery wave]

Just tell them to avoid 99% of the trash there.

[fossil oasis]

[swift prawn]

where is the content, an event at the very least 💀

[fiery wave]

Patpats. Nini.

[fiery wave]

Devs still on holiday.

[modern bobcat]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0b64369-8482-498e-be0f-e8d7a0a88531/fatmangus-zealot

This one- you can swap out for Spearhead Boltgun if you want more dakka or flamer if you want crowd control/brittleness stacks on armoured enemies

It's very hard to die, and you can save teammates who go down by using Shroudfield

[fiery wave]

Still annoyed ppl mocked me for hp stacking with corruption resist.

[modern bobcat]

Quite literally you can be in a trapper net, on fire from a bomber + flamer at the same time etc

and you won't die

[fiery wave]

Then some known ppl do it and it's now good.

[slate surge]

The game does an absolute terrible job at explaining what I.e. brittleness, melee strength, impact and other stats actually do by the way

[modern bobcat]

If "Until Death" procs you can get out of a lot of messes and use Shroud to save team

[modern bobcat]

It does. I don't understand any of it XD

I just know how to hit things

[fiery wave]

It's Fatshark.

[modern bobcat]

That's why I'm enjoying the Crowbar Hive Scum

300% Attack Speed = more hitting things = more good

[fiery wave]

The guy who does the descriptions said it was to prevent minmaxxing.

[slate surge]

Lol. Good luck with that

[fiery wave]

Harder to understand means ppl just read the code anyway.

So...

[modern bobcat]

Narrator: It did not prevent minmaxxing.

[fiery wave]

Doesn't understand human nature much.

[slate surge]

I have a blessing for test...

Decimator

[fiery wave]

Just don't miss.

[slate surge]

Continuously chaining more than two attacks gives 2% power

Ye. But what does power do...

[fiery wave]

Thing is actually good. If you miss though, it's blep.

[fiery wave]

Like strength.

Thing buffs anything offensive.

Damage, cleave, impact.

[slate surge]

And strength is vital because...

Should I go power or strength

[fiery wave]

Bonky bonk bonk gud.

[fiery wave]

Same thing.

Same dev guy can't decide which to use.

Literally does the exact same thing.

It's interchangable.

[slate surge]

Till the moment I'm ignoring them and going for standard thing like crit chance or crit damage

[vague elm]

Finally another player with taste

[fiery wave]

Never go crit damage.

NEVER.

[slate surge]

And that's because....

[fiery wave]

Let me tell you why. If a base hit is 100, crit hit is 150, weakspot is 130 and crit weak is 180. +20% crit damage only works on 150 -100 or 180- 130. 20% of 50 is 10 damage. So now your crit damage is 160, not 180.

Apply the same thing to crit weakspot. You now do 190 instead of 210.

[wide seal]

Which site is amazing for dark m tide builds ?

[fiery wave]

Using simple numbers so me no need to hard math.

[arctic shoal]

The Ogrynomicon

[fiery wave]

Discord pins.

[slate surge]

Wow I thought going crit damage was safe bet as every other game

[wide seal]

To each class ?

[fiery wave]

Look in the class chats.

[fiery wave]

The pinned guides usually are a good source.

[wide seal]

Ok

[fiery wave]

In a FS game, crit and weakspot damage usually isn't worth it unless the weapon has batshit insane finesse.

Or the multiplier is EXTREMELY high.

Or actually, both.

Otherwise, just use flak, maniac, cara, unyielding damage.

[slate surge]

Ye I'm getting to know that the stat youre looking for depends on the weapon

[modern bobcat]

Crowbar with cartel special focused on attack speed and strength is absolutely insane

[fiery wave]

And what you use, but those are just safe bets.

[vague elm]

I just use it for toughness to mitigate exhaustion and cooldown to get rampage back

[fiery wave]

I ended up just making a rashad.

[slate surge]

But also depends on the class I think. One weapon can be trash to one class and top tier to other

[modern bobcat]

I currently have TGHness and Strength

Attack speed gets too high just from Adrenaline Frenzy

I can't click fast enough after a certain point

[fiery wave]

In a way.

[fiery wave]

Fanning the trigger.

[vague elm]

Would you say attack speed buffs increases the animation of the heavy in a noticable way?

[slate surge]

There's mod to make guns full auto

[modern bobcat]

Hmm I'm not sure actually, maybe slightly. I find the heavy attack with the sharp end of crowbar is still pretty much the same as normal

[slate surge]

Oh that's a mystery I want to solve

[fiery wave]

Rashad, yes. Oh god.

Chin choppa chin choppa.

[twin flower]

Choppa choppa chin

I need new weapons reeeee

[slate surge]

Going to bed. Thank you guys for answering some of my doubts about gameplay

Have a good night

[fiery wave]

Nights.

[arctic shoal]

Cheating.

[twin flower]

How does work for weaps like Helbore tho

[fiery wave]

It doesn't. Unless you never charge.

[twin flower]

Guessing the mod just lets you keep firing when you hold down LMB

[vague elm]

I was talking crowbar hook mode

[twin flower]

Guess its weird that isnt the case for some weapons

[vague elm]

[fiery wave]

Oh. But but but... Rashad fast fast bonk bonk bonk.

[vague elm]

Yes that too

[twin flower]

Is Rashad quicker on the scoom

[vague elm]

Everything quicker on skooma. Comes straight from a funny talking felinid.

[fiery wave]

Just the atkspd with more stam and blue stim is memes already.

[vague elm]

Can you change your dog's name at funny accent murder surgeon?

[fiery wave]

50k dockets.

[vague elm]

🎉

[fiery wave]

Same place you rename your char.

Unless they broke it.

[vague elm]

I welcome to the world

Bitey McBiteFace

[coarse breach]

just came back to the game yesterday, having quit before arbiter class came out, and the first auric went so smooth that i'm not sure if i was carried or carried my own.

[fiery wave]

And Bonky McBonkface.

[modern bobcat]

I'm just an old skooma addict... Grandmaster of the Blades

[coarse breach]

it does feel like auric was toned down from the auric i played when it first launched tho

[fiery wave]

It got worse.

Just powercreep.

New classes are busted.

[modern bobcat]

When they removed the second difficulty, they modified every difficulty slightly

[coarse breach]

yeah, i have "red" weapons, (I use the mod that makes them red) so i mean i'm geared for it for sure.

it just felt like... man i felt like a god on my psyker. they feel buffed to the nines.

[quaint moss]

outlasting these trials fr

[vague elm]

Like 2 days ago I did an auric run and there were 2 solid minutes of silence after what felt like the most boring mission I've veer played

[coarse breach]

performance is also great now, like wow. no fsr, cranked it all up to max and my 1080ti is pushing 70 fps on 1440p

[vague elm]

Something was up

[quaint moss]

ah, kinda the reason i only realy do maelstorms

[vague elm]

Did half an event unbothered

[coarse breach]

were titles and medals changed so they're per character now? I have true survivor on my ogryn but not on my psyker...

[fiery wave]

They are hilariously buffed.

[modern bobcat]

No they are across all chars

[quaint moss]

good dockets, good exp, lots of enemies to test out my build
auric maelstorm my beloved

[modern bobcat]

Unless there's some kind of glitch happening

[coarse breach]

it probably didn't feel like it was because inferno staff is so op

[quaint moss]

i have like zero titles, idk guess ive never gone to check what is required for them

[coarse breach]

is weird... is showing as locked on my psyker but it's equipped on my ogryn 😮 ss and send to support ig

[fiery wave]

True, but you can build to meme tank an overhead and survive now.

[modern bobcat]

The only thing locked to each character is your progress through Campaigns + Difficulty level unlocks

[fiery wave]

Just sheer TDR and DR.

[modern bobcat]

Which is annoying if you elect to "Skip Campaign"

[coarse breach]

you know you're about to get carried when someone joins with the reject title.

[modern bobcat]

I have Auric No Man's Land unlocked on Hive Scum, but nobody else

[coarse breach]

i elected to skip campaign when it asked last night, but i beat the whole game before i left so i assume everything is unlocked.

[quaint moss]

i do it all the time, your right XD

[modern bobcat]

so the penance for completing all 3 new campaign maps is still greyed out for me

on Auric*

[fiery wave]

Just host all 3.

[modern bobcat]

Because I have only quickplayed into other people's game

[quaint moss]

though people leave when they get downed once and i have the 3 wounds >:)

[modern bobcat]

I dunno if I want to host an Auric Rolling Steel for pubs

[astral basin]

Aaaaa

[fiery wave]

Just LFG.

[vague elm]

Just host using the special assignment menu

[quaint moss]

im like a poison, i got all the bois running 3 wounds now.

[quaint moss]

YO

:3

[vague elm]

Thats how I've been doing it all week

[astral basin]

No

[fiery wave]

The finish the rest of the trains on malice.

Speedrun, then never go near it again.

[vague elm]

Just finished ogryn, only zealot and scum left

[quaint moss]

havoc is really fun, ive figured out. not nearly as bad as auric till later in the ranks. But still fun and a twist

[quaint moss]

how the day do gamer

[fiery wave]

Malice only cos you can TECHNICALLY solo it without falling asleep on uprising.

[vague elm]

I did this morning. Only took 4 tries to find a group that understood there was a timer

[modern bobcat]

That's not terrible

[quaint moss]

zealot is funny :>
scum is interesting
you will see for yourself

moeiban steel is fucking garbo, hate that mission so much

[modern bobcat]

What annoys me is the penance shows a tick

for Auric Rolling Steel and for the Comms Plex mission

but not for No Man's Land

[vague elm]

I just realized I need to do it on arb too are you on?

[modern bobcat]

I just need to find which char can immediately host No Man's

[modern bobcat]

I can be on, I'm in Australia tho

[quaint moss]

there is an instant kill spot for monstroties on, no mans land

[vague elm]

I'll b fine

[fiery wave]

Cos you only did the mission map ver, not the campaign ver.

[modern bobcat]

Yeh, I just don't know WHO did the Campaign map version XD

I'll have to check every char

Pretty sure it's Hive Scummer

[quaint moss]

if you use shout on the bridge you can instant kill a chaos spawn by pushing it off the bridge

[gilded socket]

Sometimes i miss thing i had

[quaint moss]

what thing

[fiery wave]

Oh. Only one char needs to do on auric btw.

[quaint moss]

i miss the burrito i ate

(it was a good burrito)

[fiery wave]

I asked Hex to help drag someone through auric campaign with other friend on arby.

[modern bobcat]

Loading game

[quaint moss]

FOR THE LEX

[vague elm]

Number is in profile

[modern bobcat]

7548792545

[vague elm]

[quaint moss]

i think after i finish the heavy sword on hive scum, ima do my zealot

OR

should i do oggy

[arctic shoal]

Fellow general users I have finally tried Trench Crusade Tabletop

It's very clearly influenced by Mordheims balance team which means fatality rate is pretty high, but it's fun (don't forget to name your chaff)

Only real issue is that the game starts to resemble Darktide since grenades are VERY good and cheap, so everyone and their mother becomes bomber/tox bomber

[twin flower]

Pog

Wish I had people to play with

[arctic shoal]

If you can't find someone physical there's a pretty big Tabletop sim community

[quaint moss]

I follow them on instagram

[arctic shoal]

Similar to Spacehulk which is now mostly Tabletop sim driven

[modern bobcat]

Rock, you disappeared :X

[quaint moss]

i explained it to my father

[modern bobcat]

Lol

[vague elm]

Hold up

What mission are we doing I didn't see

[quaint moss]

and he got veryyyy confused when i started talking about fake jesus

[twin flower]

[modern bobcat]

Lol

[modern bobcat]

No Man's Land

[quaint moss]

he liked the art though

[fiery wave]

You mean vets.

[quaint moss]

peak mission

[modern bobcat]

I can cycle back and do Rolling

[twin flower]

Tried asking around their discord about it one time, but they barely entertain new peeps lmao

[fiery wave]

Best to just do full chain.

[twin flower]

So am just init for the lore rn I guess

[fiery wave]

Elitist?

[arctic shoal]

yeah the disc can be a bit eh depending on time

[twin flower]

No idea

[gilded socket]

It was a lego set i had as a kid

[arctic shoal]

Mostly depending on factions NA and IS have been Pretty welcoming

[quaint moss]

lore is good, havent kept up with it in the last couple of months, kinda just been chilling where im at with TC

[twin flower]

Even people asking about lore gets like a bit of a weird treatment

[quaint moss]

i miss my lego head that had legos in it

honestly fair

[arctic shoal]

I haven't bothered with lore channels, I know the bare minimun about the 3 factions I have seen and not much else

[quaint moss]

simple look at them weird back

[twin flower]

Yeah nah, I just read them up online and whatever their established lore section is instead of asking

[quaint moss]

and if they try to make a move at you, eat their liver

[twin flower]

I read their ruleook as well, so I just know the basics of the Tabletop

I didnt get very far since im like trying to learn it on my own kekw

[arctic shoal]

Old Mordheim exudes from the rulebook

[quaint moss]

I like the art :3, thats why i know anything about the goofy religion bois

[twin flower]

Whats old Mordheim

[arctic shoal]

It's like playing Mordheim again, only less mages exploding and more people falling over for walking in rubble

[twin flower]

Art does go hard

[arctic shoal]

Ridiculously rng heavy warband simulator set in Fantasy warhammer

Back when fantasy had the sister of ba-sigmar

[quaint moss]

like me fr, does go, be weird if i didnt

yeah when i saw that church dreadnaught, i was sold on learning about it

[twin flower]

Should see dis one dude I watch on YT sometimes

[arctic shoal]

I still remember loosing my grey seer in the first day of the campaign

He exploded by trying to rot enemy weapons, just poofed

[twin flower]

Made a Warrig about those walking shrines

[arctic shoal]

[fiery wave]

More, how the kark does it even work???

[twin flower]

Lemme snippet it real quick, cuz that was hella sick looking

[gilded socket]

I wanted one of those heads so bad

[quaint moss]

the blood of christ, and a very VERY willing crucified participant

[quaint moss]

yuh, it had the filter, used it once

[fiery wave]

No, explaination is just, "Is metal."

[twin flower]

metal

[quaint moss]

sorry, i meant that ate christ flesh

now it uses

christ powers

to carry church armor

[fiery wave]

I mean the genre of music.

[tired steeple]

I this about trench crusade

[fiery wave]

See covers.

[tired steeple]

The devs of that game got in trouble recently

AI shit

Apparently lying to backers and that too

[twin flower]

Isn't there only like one

[tired steeple]

Not sure how true that one is though

[twin flower]

AI shit about the tabletop?

Huh, weird

[fiery wave]

It's still cheap 'art' assets.

[arctic shoal]

AI stuff is a theory that they have an AI hunting and flagging content that is related to then online

Which is pretty much bull in what I can see

[quaint moss]

OH my b, very sick and not quick rn XD

[gilded socket]

Peak

[twin flower]

They have one dude doing the art tho

He does his drafts every now and then so idk if he does use AI

[arctic shoal]

No idea about the lying to backers, discord is not on fire and most forums have some minor complaints about the STLs having resin traps (Will hopefully be fixed so we don't have to do the small fix in blender ourselves)

[fiery wave]

It was more of a joke that sometimes, vehicles in Metal tend to be wot.

[twin flower]

Then again I dont follow up about the people behind TC much

[tired steeple]

Well it’s not like I backed the game so

I wouldn’t suffer either way

[fiery wave]

No, 'art' can be anything visual or written. I'm just guessing they use AI for such if they got into trouble with it.

[quaint moss]

ye :>

[twin flower]

, the ai thing is the first i've heard of it

but yeah, guess we'll see

[fiery wave]

Rule of cool more or less.

[arctic shoal]

No AI was used.

The AI comments are related to some keywords triggering a bot they may or may not have to flag content, not easy to verify

[twin flower]

Funoie

[quaint moss]

honestly one of the cooler art designs

is the dude LIKE FUCKING 15 FEET TALL holding a big ass rifle

[twin flower]

The artists afaik is pretty well established so id liek to think he's safe

[twin flower]

Oh those guys

[tired steeple]

I’ll wait until the game’s out first

[ripe tangle]

would Orks like Football?

[tired steeple]

Which was my plan since the start

[ripe tangle]

or would they be confused why people are cheering but there’s no bloodshed?

[tired steeple]

There’s a whole game about it

[twin flower]

Are they making a video game am not aware of

[tired steeple]

Blood bowl

[twin flower]

I only know their tabletop

[tired steeple]

Is the tabletop out?

[ripe tangle]

Blood Bowl is peak

[tired steeple]

I thought it was still being made

[twin flower]

Its been out a while

[tired steeple]

Shit

[lyric badger]

Ayee all

[tired steeple]

Guess I’ll see if TTS has a way to play it

[fiery wave]

Ah, went to look it up. They just use AI to copyright strike stuff, which can lead to unfair takedowns or even loss of accounts.

[tired steeple]

As long as there’s no AI in the final product

[arctic shoal]

We've had 2 editions (sort of) already, first badge was crap and had glaring issues model wise

Second is pretty good and the Hero Forge community has ported the models to Tabletop Sim if you wanna try it out

[quaint moss]

ye, dem things

[arctic shoal]

Models are plastic and for the price of some intercessors you can get an entire warband for multiple factions

Specially court

[twin flower]

Last thing I read was about the Red Brigade, i forget the names of some of them every now and then

[tired steeple]

Thanks

I wanna try it

[twin flower]

Same

[tired steeple]

I’ll check steam workshop for stuf

[arctic shoal]

If you wanna print I'd wait for the 'model fix' since there are several resin traps atm in some of them

[quaint moss]

i know none of there names, other than big fucker, big tall fucker, bigger taller angry fucker

[twin flower]

I've never tried TTS, should prolly look into it as well

[tired steeple]

Yeah it’s pretty neat

Gonna try playing killteam with my gf tomorrow

[twin flower]

Big demon fucker with archer for hands

[tired steeple]

She’s into 40k and AOS

[twin flower]

Noice

[arctic shoal]

It's pretty good but you need friends, great way to not spend a million docket bucks in overpriced minis

[tired steeple]

I only really like the AOS models, the lore is uhh not for me

[arctic shoal]

That and you can port DT characters in via hero forge

[fiery wave]

This sounds like why they are cracking down. Why let fans sell TC compatible stuff based on their designs when they can do it and charge more.

[quaint moss]

REALLY BIG DEMON MOTHER FUCKER, we forgot to bury the bodies oh shi

[tired steeple]

I did play by myself on TTS since bloodborne the board game can be played solo

Which was fun

But I do wanna play actual games with her like uhh sins of a solar empire

[twin flower]

"What's that buzzing noise?"

[tired steeple]

Wasn’t there a lore part about them trying to go to space in like 1920

[twin flower]

In TC?

[tired steeple]

Yeah

[twin flower]

I dont think its 1920, current timeline is like 1914

[tired steeple]

Like a space program starts a lot earlier than it did irl

[twin flower]

They have a space program, but theyre still ironing out the kinks or something

[tired steeple]

That’s awesome

[twin flower]

Pretty sick tactic since Hell pretty much controls the Seas

So their response is, "then we'll take over the skies"

[slate surge]

Just find out DT had no coherent story. Missions where totally random bits of lore till recently

[quaint moss]

artillery which is so fucking broken, like yeah so what i can throw bomb, made in a factory that no regular mortal can reach. DEAL WITH IT

[gilded socket]

Ever feel like a bag of candy

[arctic shoal]

1899 the church starts a space program

[twin flower]

engraved with aancient demonic writing that can literally unravel your entire being

Yeah those artileries sound terrifying

[quaint moss]

shakey, a bit sweet, and people want me
heh, NO (jk)

wanna talk to god, well now you can (just dont roll a nat 1)

[whole glade]

gog

we talking bout tc

and no one pinged meh?

[quaint moss]

sorry, was to busy being based 😔

[twin flower]

Better than you dont as Saints get hunted down by Hell

was mucking around bannerlord

and playing signalis for the first time

[fiery wave]

The campaign is the story.

[gilded socket]

Shakey sour

[whole glade]

HOW DARE THEE

[quaint moss]

i feel so bad for the knights, like yeah bro, you gotta walk in there (certain flavor of hell) alone

[gilded socket]

F*mboy

[twin flower]

Fartboi

[quaint moss]

"you said what"

[quaint moss]

hey sour, then sweet :3

[gilded socket]

NO

[twin flower]

The Paladins?

Do be OP, to an extent..

[quaint moss]

too bad , walked into it

[gilded socket]

Fuck

[twin flower]

[somber stream]

Hello chat, it's ya boy

Mister get sick a lot

[quaint moss]

yippie maxwell

[quaint moss]

same, i woke up delirious and confused

[somber stream]

Seasonal flu is a bitch huh

[gilded socket]

Gaytwink47?

[whole glade]

YOU FORGOT THE WITCH PART

FUCKER

[hushed cipher]

LOL

GAYTWINK

[gilded socket]

F*mboy

[gilded socket]

Hag

[whole glade]

Fentboy

[somber stream]

I went out for a cup yesterday and caught the thing the very next morning, lovelay

[tired steeple]

I need an artillery witch gf to shove the shell down my throat

Anyway, I’m tired and bored

[whole glade]

bro...we dont...we dont do that...ask the 5th circe about the lust stuff

[tired steeple]

It’s not lust it’s like

Some other shit

[whole glade]

we just get made in factory and throw bombs at peeps

[quaint moss]

yo gay was mention, im back what i miss

[quaint moss]

a goth witch doing goth witch things

[tired steeple]

The other options for trench crusade baddies are people with pustules and rot and mutations

I’m good

[twin flower]

Should look at the penitent nuns

[quaint moss]

no just find christ

[twin flower]

Awooga armor

[quaint moss]

oh no, know i gotta see

[whole glade]

no

you poor soul

[tired steeple]

I’ll look later

What are the factions

[twin flower]

Look at the official art as well

[quaint moss]

oh those

[twin flower]

Well theres New Antioch

[quaint moss]

i remember them

old tibbie

[twin flower]

Bastion city of the Faithful and pretty much a mixed bag of every human units ever

[whole glade]

yeah

but not as cool as us

we have goat men with nervous system whips as slaves

[twin flower]

Naval Raiders are prolly my favourite so far from the Heretic side

[tired steeple]

How’s middle east doing

[whole glade]

creating fake life thats too smart for its own good

[quaint moss]

bouta prey on your downfall so hard it manifest into the present as a divine bullet from god : the game

[tired steeple]

Cause they’re normally my preferred vibe of faction

That or samurai but Japan didn’t do much in ww1

[twin flower]

Hell yeah

[tired steeple]

Nothing interesting anyway

[whole glade]

insert the art of the Heretic trooper with a baby on his hip

[fiery wave]

RIP, maybe also compounded by stress.

[quaint moss]

i should show my Saudi Arabian friend trench crusade, hes not a big fan of none shooter, but i think he'd like the funky lore

[whole glade]

whenever the add a nordic/viking faction then ill turn to the faithful

[twin flower]

Not much mentions from the far east just yet, far as I know Tuomas, the maker of the game dont wanna introduce too many factions yet

[river vapor]

hey does anyone know why my game crashes with scoreboard mod? did the update change something?

[whole glade]

they just start going to the americas too

[somber stream]

Just your average January, Asian are especially busy around this time huh

[twin flower]

Well theres already one

But they havent expounded much about them

If they did i'd prolyl switch my favourite faction as well

Janissaries atm are prolly my go to

[quaint moss]

my favorite thing about it, is that it doesnt really take place in the modern era or in the future
this is a fucked up, fucked different time :3

[whole glade]

me when TC already has better world building than 40k...

[twin flower]

Alternate timeline yeah

[whole glade]

who said that

[fiery wave]

Is new year. A mess.

[quaint moss]

my boi went to sleep, :> i wanna talk to him about trench crusade

[somber stream]

Oh yeah, i recall you prefer to call it 'Lunar new year' over 'Chinese New year' right?

[twin flower]

I mean 40k's alright, issue with that is they have like multiple authors

[somber stream]

For obvious reason

[twin flower]

TC is stable with Tuomas leading the writing

[delicate vapor]

[whole glade]

yeah but sometimes we just need 1 planet to tell a story

[twin flower]

[tired steeple]

In one game plasma guns are a splash weapon

In others, a pin point blast

[twin flower]

Rogue Traders

[tired steeple]

Writers decide at the end of the day

[fiery wave]

Either works. Westerners use Lunar to not... refer to China.

[twin flower]

Do be weird

[tired steeple]

Same with lasguns being inconsistent. Different writers

[delicate vapor]

[somber stream]

I too, prefer Lunar. Has a nice ring to it

[tired steeple]

Lunar just also sounds cooler

[somber stream]

Hell yeah

[twin flower]

Depends on the setting, pretty much down for anything as long as the writing is appealing to me

[whole glade]

i just love how TC takes its lore maturely and its gameplay more casual and story focused

A COMPANY WHO CARES ABOUT ITS FANS

[fiery wave]

Is really up to you, they are both used anyway so, shrugs.

[whole glade]

WHATTTTTTTTTT

[charred epoch]

some guns have mounted lights

some people just use mods (not to be confused with cheats) to brighten the map up

[twin flower]

I have yet to properly try the Tabletop

[whole glade]

john blanche is the best 40kk artist

[twin flower]

wonder if I;ll find people for it on the TTS

[fiery wave]

Brightening the map with a free flash light or straight reshade is cheating though.

[whole glade]

TTS baybeh

[somber stream]

The Korean also celebrate this occassion, their version is called "Seollal" that last merely 3 days. Meanwhile the Chinese get up to 3 weeks

[twin flower]

I have yet to try TTS , people were talking about it earlier so Imma look into it later

[whole glade]

markiplier mentioned?

Iron lung?

[somber stream]

Hmm?

[charred epoch]

ok listen i 1000% agree with you that it's cheats, but it's cheats like cheat-codes. It's not against the TOS/rules

I think it SHOULD be against TOS/rules. But that's my opinion, and I don't want to limit what others players do based on my opinion if my opinion is not shared by the publisher.

I'm sure you feel the same.

[fiery wave]

Used to be entire month, lul. Now also 3 days because productivity and profits.

[quaint moss]

i think its because the games usually take places in different planets on different parts of the galaxies, which is also why the lazerguns change so much. different tatics for different enemies
or just GW nonsense

[whole glade]

i just got my models before cristmas

[quaint moss]

HELLO EVERYBODY MY NAME IS

[twin flower]

MOORRKLIPLIER

[whole glade]

the guy at my hobby shop plays it in his free time

[somber stream]

I wouldn't want to sit on my ass for a whole month as well, 3 days is a bit too little. I think a week is the perfect spot

[tired steeple]

Different forge worlds and that too, different patterns

Mars pattern

graia pattern

[twin flower]

noice

[tired steeple]

All that stuff

[whole glade]

my name is welcome. what?....

[quaint moss]

Market fire

[tired steeple]

Sigh graia

[twin flower]

Pay attention, ding ding ding

[tired steeple]

I miss you

I want the vengeance launcher

[whole glade]

he said theyll be carrying the plastic kits

[fiery wave]

Is why I think FS needs to hire or find better people to check the mods for more than just QoL fixes and fun stuff that doesn't hard affect gameplay.

[tired steeple]

It’s literally a graia only gun. The gun cannot leave the planet

[quaint moss]

hi welcome, my name is is

[charred epoch]

They did it well with Vermintide 2. They have approved and unapproved mods. Unapproved mods go to the unapproved server.

[fiery wave]

Well, some are 1 week. Is why sometimes prices on things may spike then. Production drops to 0% for 3-7 days.

[somber stream]

Stock up

[quaint moss]

personally LET THE SEAS BOIL shi, and just have stupid mod shenanigans go wild (not asking for opinions >:)

[somber stream]

Same deal on Christmas, stock up.

[delicate vapor]

[charred epoch]

you didn't ask for opinions but you're getting mine anyway here goes:

You are b word.

[delicate vapor]

[quaint moss]

😭 dies

[fiery wave]

Or just matchmake modded with modded with a toggle. If you invite ppl, is your choice, but random matchmaking should be like that.

[quaint moss]

im bumblebee 😔

[quaint moss]

cant, adhd wont let me

[charred epoch]

I mean some mods are ARGUABLY fine

Disable screen effects: yeah i mean ok, this is borderline under the strictest sense
SpecialsTracker: absolutely a cheat (it tells you when certain mobs, such as trappers, are in play)
dangerzone: high tier players don't need this but it is a huge aid in detecting certain mobs
better downed indicators: just use vc ffs
customHUD: 1000% absolutely without a doubt fine by me - 0 effect on gameplay.

[fiery wave]

Need bright flashy lights for focus?

[somber stream]

Would a female Beastwomen have a human-like head with a beastmen body or would it just straight up a goat head

[quaint moss]

why do you think i play darktide

[somber stream]

How the fuck do you evolve into a goat anyway

[quaint moss]

i am seriously unmedicated

[quaint moss]

being better

[fiery wave]

I know, but psykernautics wallhax, skitarius bs and minigame reveal all+auto play exist. There's more that fall under it, but those are the biggest.

[nocturne bloom]

Depends how logical you want to get and what they are spliced with

Like a half minotaur would probably just have the legs, tail and horn features, id imagine a goat would be the same

[somber stream]

Actually, now that i'm looking it up, old material with loyalist Beastmen suggest they have human face, beast body and with horns

[nocturne bloom]

Oh in 40k

Yea idk then

[charred epoch]

Know what excuse i hate in this argument btw - and i bet you'll see me on this - but the "well it should be in the game anyway" often seen for things like skitarius.

[fiery wave]

Like, you can say exe stance and EO is a thing, but one still has to be activated and upkept and the other is slow 1 by 1 till everything is highlighted.

[somber stream]

New heretical minis just depict them as a goat standing on 2 legs lmao

[fiery wave]

Oh, I know. "It's just ACCESSIBLITY." is used so often.

Well, use one of the cheaty but less so ones then if you were serious about carpal tunnel.

Since they complain about having to light spam.

[charred epoch]

autoswing im less fucky about yeah.

[knotty terrace]

simple rule to live by you pick up grim dont expect rez

[fiery wave]

Ppl only use skitarius to abuse broken combos insanely fast.

[charred epoch]

btw wanna disclaim: im full hypocrit

i use half of these mods i call cheaty

[quaint moss]

ight ima play the game :3

[charred epoch]

but i think i shouldn't be allowed to do that

[quaint moss]

pve, have fun, blow shit up

[fiery wave]

I don't. Is one thing if it were single player or a silly name change of a char in a multiplayer game, but... geh.

[charred epoch]

I'd be leaving power on the table if I didn't use it - in a multiplayer game.

I use them to stay with the curve, not to get an edge over it. That's why I don't define them as true cheats.

[charred epoch]

btw wanna reiterate that i respect you and your opinion

[jaunty path]

kill those who disagree with you

[fiery wave]

It just means everyone just cheats when they can for an unfair advantage. And people wonder why some don't like crossplay and such.

[charred epoch]

well now don't blame this on crossplay - blame it on them allowing mods.

[tired steeple]

Lights out probably just shouldn’t appear in quickplay ngl

I can’t exactly prepare for something I can’t predict

[light fable]

what if they made a new one called lights on where the heretics turn up the lights to a blinding degree

[fiery wave]

You know cheaters are just going to cheat. Been there since the start of time and mods. TF2 blu/green models with red heads... I still remember.

[charred epoch]

Now you know the term "mods" literally comes from console players using cheats right?

when used to describe hacks

on PC they're called hacks

[somber stream]

xXx_H@xx0r_xXx

[fiery wave]

Or just cheats.

[fiery wave]

Consoles could be modded with chips.

[charred epoch]

yup; and because they're far less likely to have anticheat, consoleers are surprisingly more likely than one would think to cheat

[fiery wave]

Some just used it for 'cheap' games back in the day.

[fiery wave]

It's just 'harder' to do, or you pay more to get someone to do it for you.

[nocturne bloom]

Consoles arent exactly less likely

[charred epoch]

harder barrier of entry, but safer.

[nocturne bloom]

Older ones sure

[charred epoch]

i mean nowadays PC gamers use external hardware to cheat, as do console players.

Anticheat is useless against those.

[fiery wave]

Why pointless, people will cheat if they want to, but making the barrier more expensive might lessen it. Thing is, letting cheats sit beside actual QoL in a publicly avaliable place is just stupid personally.

It's like telling people on PC you can simply cheat for advantages and can't be reported for it.

[charred epoch]

I didn't say pointless.

Just that anticheat won't work on external HW cheats.

external HW cheats will one day be detectable hopefully.

[desert cobalt]

What are the best refinements?

[charred epoch]

for what

[fiery wave]

Because they bypass. Only human eyes will work for those.

[lost flume]

Cheating only exists in pvp