general-chat

[gloomy tartan]

I mean I played the game but I haven’t read the books etc

[somber stream]

There isn't a book

Or is there?

[gloomy tartan]

I thought all the rogue traders look liek pirates

[somber stream]

A Darktide book?

[gloomy tartan]

All fancy outfits

[somber stream]

A Booktide?

[gloomy tartan]

Opulent

[astral basin]

The inquisition acquisitioned brahms’s ship as a command hub for the issue on tertium

[gloomy tartan]

I legit thiught every rogue trader looked like a space pirate

[somber stream]

lol

[gloomy tartan]

Thanks for explaining

[somber stream]

I mean some, maybe

[somber stream]

Most of them are rich af

[gloomy tartan]

Ok so Brahms just rocking that old lady drip

[astral basin]

The Commodore fits your standards nicely

[gloomy tartan]

That regal old money drop

[somber stream]

Do not the Brahms

[crystal crane]

I know there is a table top game that ties into the game

[cosmic burrow]

No. They dont. But emora brahms also known as shipmistress brahms is a rogue trader

[somber stream]

No way

[astral basin]

Booktide. Gotta fight a lotta mind goblins

[gloomy tartan]

Brahms does have I’m in charge fuck off aura with her look

[somber stream]

It takes a certain type of people to be a Rogue trader

[crystal crane]

Yeah, not sure what it has hidden though

[rare pulsar]

sigh whats a mind goblin?

[somber stream]

Next you're gonna tell me they have some sort of animated series going on for them as well

[gloomy tartan]

Dude we better not have to share bathrooms with the ogryns

Brahms can’t be that cruel

[astral basin]

Error 503: deez nutz not found

[crystal crane]

Bad news from that one oldgryn personality

[crystal crane]

Not that I know of

[gloomy tartan]

Whats the worst roommate a zealot a ogryn a vet or a psyker

[rare pulsar]

I wouldnt have mind goblin these

[gloomy tartan]

I know the ogryn eats in bed

[crystal crane]

Psyker

[rare pulsar]

Yeah deffo psyker

Will give you constant warp induced nightmares

[gloomy tartan]

Hit them with the spray bottle

[rare pulsar]

And makes you feel unease for aome reason

[gloomy tartan]

Spray the psyker like a cat when they give you nightmares problem solved

[somber stream]

I hate Dukane with a passion, it's like i was born for this

[crystal crane]

Probably because they can explode into a demon portal at any moment

[misty trench]

what the heck does "quality standards of our marketing assets" even mean

[gloomy tartan]

Oh fuck I forgot the explode into a demon part

[somber stream]

"We fucked up our asset and will need a week to make new one"

[pseudo timber]

We want money so no show thing until we happy

[crystal crane]

I thought that was blanks

[somber stream]

Some are leaning to "GW wanted to change a few things last minute so we have no choice"

[hidden obsidian]

that's what I assume it is

[rare pulsar]

No blanks only make psykers feel unease

[astral basin]

Damn swedes and their coffee breaks

[somber stream]

It's Fatshark, they are known to fuck things up. I bet it's 100% on them

[quartz crystal]

nah I blame GW

[gloomy tartan]

I feel like Todd Howard is slowly becoming a mechanicus

[rare pulsar]

If its a sister of silence the psyker will be in terrible pain from her presence alone

[twin flower]

What makes you say that

[astral basin]

Blanks make everyone feel uneasy
Its a. “They dont have a soul” kind of gut feeling
They drain psykers by being near them

[gloomy tartan]

Reminding me of hadron more and more as time goes by

[crystal crane]

I thought blanks in general made psykers pretty much suicidal and normal humans uncomfortable. Sisters of silence can delete demons though

[gloomy tartan]

I bet blanks are shit at small talk

[astral basin]

Psykers… you will defo have weird dreams if you room with one
And they will doing some. Weird af stuff that makes you feel like a service worker

[crystal crane]

They usually get killed the instant they are born

[somber stream]

Jurgen is alright

[astral basin]

I thought jurgen didnt do small talk

Merely

Observations

[gloomy tartan]

Who would be the best roommate then ? If psyker is worst?

[somber stream]

He'll talk if he has to

[crystal crane]

Ogryn

[gloomy tartan]

I was going to say ogryn too lol

[somber stream]

Christ no, the smell

[twin flower]

Vet but am biased

[somber stream]

Vet for sure

[astral basin]

Maybe vet. Depending on the vet
Zealot… theres a chance zealot is a bad idea

[gloomy tartan]

Lmao I am also a vet

[twin flower]

muh man

[astral basin]

Vet is the most normal

[somber stream]

Just another day in the guard

[twin flower]

Exactly

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah but the greedy vet sounds like they would rob you

[astral basin]

Your criminals

One way or another

[gloomy tartan]

Cadian vet just wants to kill stuff but sounds loyal

Hey I don’t want my stuff stolen

[crystal crane]

In 40k smell means very little I imagine. But having a buddy Ogryn is the number one way to avoid early death

[astral basin]

Or… ex criminals
Assets of the inquisition

[lethal solstice]

Cutthroat smells like shit

[gloomy tartan]

Hahahah

[lethal solstice]

No seriously

[somber stream]

I reckon Ogryn have their own space, with ogryn stuff to handle their 'Ogryness'

[astral basin]

The term “accidental” doesnt seem to cross your mind does it
Not to mention how cramped the living conditions would be

[gloomy tartan]

Specifically the cutthroat vet smells like shit? That’s funny lmao

[lethal solstice]

There's line(s?) that reference it

[astral basin]

Just imagine
You had the misfortune of ogryn claiming top bunk
How tf you gonna argue

[crystal crane]

It is worth it. Dudes are big sweeties

[gloomy tartan]

Oh my god I need to hear these lines lol

[low blade]

Depends on the blank. Being a blank has a sense of "wrong" that make people dislike you inherently. Being a really powerful blank means killed at birth. Most blanks childhood is probably abuse and neglect at best

[somber stream]

I heard there's a line about Felinid, i have yet to encounter this

[gloomy tartan]

Dog if you bunk with a ogryn top bunk…trade it for food?

[low blade]

Loose Cannon mentions them iirc

[lethal solstice]

I feel like the best choice is either professional vet, authoritarian arbitrator, or savant psyker

[astral basin]

Mans straight fishing 😭

[somber stream]

Poggers

[twin flower]

Nah, just put the big hat on and tell them to move

[nocturne flicker]

i wish nothing but agony on whoever got todd howard to watch the lord of the rings films

[twin flower]

they do what big hat man says

[gloomy tartan]

It’s fun how some personality’s get along great others hate eachother

[nocturne flicker]

ruined oblivion bruh

[crystal crane]

The only Cadian line to stick with me is the convo between him and the... loose cannon I think? Dude mocks the Cadian about Cadian breaking

[low blade]

Shoutout to the personalities that flirt with one another

[twin flower]

I think them not getting along is funnier

[gloomy tartan]

Some flirt?

[nocturne flicker]

i want to flirt with hadron

[twin flower]

I like the one where Loosecannon makes fun of one of the 2 Psykers in your Team, if you have 2 anyway

[lethal solstice]

Male professional and male maul my beloved

[twin flower]

The psykers proceed to talk about a list they keep about people they dont like

[low blade]

Male Loose Cannon flirts with a female Savant, Male Judge is into Female Loose Cannon (Or female professional)

[nocturne flicker]

would

[low blade]

So forth and so on

[lethal solstice]

Favorite toxic yaoi in the setting

[crystal crane]

Yeah, it is pretty funny

[low blade]

Ayo?

Based

[gloomy tartan]

I vaguely remember zealots and psykers being friendly with my veteran and obviously veterans like veterans

[nocturne flicker]

fem savant is into zola.

[lethal solstice]

There is straight up a line where maul says "let's find a quite corner you and me" to professional

[nocturne flicker]

you reckon they canonically have that 90s yaoi size difference? professional vet defo the smaller one who subs

[crystal crane]

The Ogryn wants to platonically give Zola Wolfers head and the loose cannon calls em a romantic

[low blade]

Its called an Uke, you uncultured swine

[astral basin]

Best duo
Shouty n big fella

[nocturne flicker]

che?

[nocturne flicker]

big fella is best fella

[gloomy tartan]

I only get friendly lines from crazy ass psykers and zealots when I play my Cadian vet and sometimes other vets are friendly

[low blade]

Male loner has insane short king energy

[crystal crane]

German power bottom

[somber stream]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cB9wd-s6Jfo

[nocturne flicker]

i was gonna say that yeah. specifically the angry kind

[somber stream]

IT EXIST

"My beloved said Felinids are particularly beautiful"

[nocturne flicker]

a highly exaggerated accent but... eh. if tf2 medic passes he passes

[grave plaza]

[rare pulsar]

SHORT KINGS ASSEMBLE

[nocturne flicker]

is 5'8" short kings eligible?

[rare pulsar]

Yes

[twin flower]

Huh

[rare pulsar]

Im 5 9

[low blade]

Loose Cannon is a godless tall man. Even worse, he's probably a BLONDE MAN

[nocturne flicker]

Woohoo! I'm in, then!

[crystal crane]

That seems too nice to the cats

[somber stream]

Felinids = anime confirmed by Big E

Take that haters

[nocturne flicker]

The Seer Psyker confirms the Emperor (their "Beloved") likes catboys and catgirls

[low blade]

Oh yeah truth nuke he says his Beloved adores felinids

[nocturne flicker]

I am dead serious. if their Beloved isn't just a Tzeentch Daemon pretending to be the Emperor, ofc

[rare pulsar]

Didnt know big e was down bad like that

[twin flower]

You guys heard one about the Arby asking the Ogryn about his Pet Rock

[gloomy tartan]

Oh wait I remember a funny line

[astral basin]

Noones brave enough to bring out the old thundercats

[nocturne flicker]

he lost it 🥺

[astral basin]

True felinids

[twin flower]

A sad day indeed

[rare pulsar]

What? Was staring at the wall

[low blade]

Upon further review it seems male loose cannon flirts with fem authoritarian so maybe he just has a thing for cops

[nocturne flicker]

petition to rename flashbang grenades "thunderflashes" instead

[crystal crane]

I am trying to remember more ogryn lines... there was one fem vet who talks about him being poetry in motion when killing a lot of enemies. The loose cannon hits em with the come here often line when being rescued

[low blade]

Male Loose Cannon out here trying to pretty boy his way out of the cuffs

[nocturne flicker]

he gives me handlebar moustache vibes

[gloomy tartan]

My cutthroat vet tells the arbitrator if they have any interesting secrets or something and when the arbitrator responds all close to the chest not wanting to share my loose cannon vet goes “ I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” something like that

It’s a funny line every time

[nocturne flicker]

fem loose cannon is just an irish woman

[low blade]

I have him with sideburns and a 70s stache and it fits a bit too well

[lethal solstice]

Too silly for this world

[rare pulsar]

People told me my ogryn looks like freddy mercury

[lethal solstice]

She's just so much better than the other two

[nocturne flicker]

the "not allowed within a certain radius of a school" stache?

[crystal crane]

My kind of woman

[low blade]

The "Smoking cigars on a plane next to a strangers child" stache

[nocturne flicker]

hell yeah brother

[gloomy tartan]

Wait so which personality’s would be the most friendly squads then? And which would hate eachother nonstop?

[nocturne flicker]

when we getting mediterranean women in darktide

🥺

[gloomy tartan]

Most and least synergy options lol

[lethal solstice]

4 professionals

[gloomy tartan]

Imagine running a said that all fucking hate eachother

[rare pulsar]

Well nobody dares talk shit to ogryns

[somber stream]

I love celtic women

[gloomy tartan]

Dude ogryn is so based

[twin flower]

Why

[lethal solstice]

Loner does

[gloomy tartan]

Even my cutthroat likes them

[crystal crane]

The only other two Ogryn convos that are locked in my head is the one about the appearance change station and him feeling sad for ugly people and a recent one with him saying worshiping the emperor and nurgle is the same bucket of grox

[rare pulsar]

Hes a bit suicidal

[nocturne flicker]

i mean they do but they use big words and don't tell him the true meaning when he asks

[rare pulsar]

Cause they wanna keep their arms and legs

[lethal solstice]

And I think agitator does

[gloomy tartan]

I never have a bad interaction with ogryn as cut throat he might get annoyed when they misunderstand him but he never yells at them unless it’s positive cheering

[crystal crane]

Bodyguard does not return the favor

[nocturne flicker]

fem agitator is fem saltzpyre and i'm all for it

[low blade]

Heretics would be defeated too fast

[rare pulsar]

True

[gloomy tartan]

4 professionals sounds boring

[nocturne flicker]

exactly bro

[low blade]

LOVE HER. Used her since the closed beta

[lethal solstice]

She's silly but I switched to fem judge for fotf lines

[low blade]

Never once changed

[lethal solstice]

I like how giddy fem agitator gets sometimes

Its fun

[rare pulsar]

SINNERS

I JUDGE THEEEEEEE

[nocturne flicker]

yeah she's my fav zealot personality, although there's some CLOSE contenders.

[gloomy tartan]

Do psykers talk the most shit?

[crystal crane]

My favorite convo with an ogryn and cutthroat is the ogryn trying to figure out if Cadia still exists when the vet goes to sleep

[nocturne flicker]

THOU ART DOOMED

[gloomy tartan]

I swear every time I have a psyker in a squad they on someone’s ass

[lethal solstice]

Loner does

[low blade]

I like how the agitator is a larp. Male Loose Cannon points out they swear like a sailor when they think nobody hears them, and they complain Melk corrects them on their shitty High Gothic

[lethal solstice]

Savant and seer are chill

[crystal crane]

The loner does

[gloomy tartan]

Psykers pick someone on the squad and start just deconstruction they ass

[delicate fox]

seer, savant, bodyguard and authoritarian would probs be most the friendly

if not authoritarian, then brawler

[lethal solstice]

Nah loner shares the shit equally

[nocturne flicker]

seer is chill but you wouldn't want to anger them. they've convinced themselves you're not real and therefore can justify ANYTHING they do to you to their own conscience

[low blade]

Drop seer, add Professional. Professional is, for the most part, a pretty friendly guy or gal. Only really pushes back

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah they bounce around shit talking every one same energy lmao

[lethal solstice]

Fem seer is way more stable

[median kraken]

did they move the reveal date back?

[lethal solstice]

Male seer is a bit edgy for me

[crystal crane]

Bodyguard is certainly the best at being annoying without being a total jerk

[nocturne flicker]

i prefer fem

[median kraken]

i could have sworn it was today

[lethal solstice]

Same

[low blade]

Bodyguard my GOAT

[median kraken]

bruh

[nocturne flicker]

delayed to 18th

[rare pulsar]

Classic obese shrimp

[lethal solstice]

I picked her originally because I realized she's played by Hedda Bardinsdottir

[median kraken]

why post a date if it ain't ready to go

[nocturne flicker]

he's also INSANELY smart for an ogryn who assumedly has no bone'ead implant

[gloomy tartan]

I don’t remember cutting throat starting shit besides saying they will kill anyone who thinks of turning traitor?

[nocturne flicker]

like he's a straight up genius by ogryn standards

[rare pulsar]

They also cacelled only 1 hour prior yesterday

[low blade]

And sometimes it seems like he's overcompensating with trying to be dumb

[lethal solstice]

Cutthroat starts lots of shit

[gloomy tartan]

Wait wait wait

[median kraken]

bruh

[delicate fox]

i think cutthroats starting to get some character development and is warming up to the warband

[gloomy tartan]

I forgot they shit talk psykers alot

[rare pulsar]

Ogryns are secretly 200iq

[low blade]

Bodyguard is actually Alpharius just dicking around

[rare pulsar]

We just nwver show it whith the punys around

[gloomy tartan]

I mean they call people mean names

[crystal crane]

He is the best. Also talks about being an alpha type ogryn whatever that is supposed to entail

[gloomy tartan]

True

[nocturne flicker]

actually i'm pretty sure it was like 15-30 mins. my money's on GW seeing a brick in the background being the wrong shade of green-grey

[nocturne flicker]

i'm a gamma male

[gloomy tartan]

I forgot that the cutthroats nicknames for others might be viewed as mean lol

[hollow zephyr]

Darktide is not Fatshark IP

[lethal solstice]

From what playtesters have said its probably a GW moment

[gloomy tartan]

You’re telling me you don’t like it when I call you a witch or a priest ?

[lethal solstice]

And also strawhat or whoever the current CM is

[rare pulsar]

Brawler also has a damaged bone,ead implant

[hollow zephyr]

Kitefin?

[nocturne flicker]

quickpaw

[rare pulsar]

Thats why hes a bit smarterü

[low blade]

Witch is downright nice by most standards

[nocturne flicker]

kitefin and strawhat both left

[gloomy tartan]

Veteran calling the ogryn big man is a term of endearment

[crystal crane]

Cookin what lil brain is left

[hollow zephyr]

strawhat occupies another role in the company right? kite left for uni iirc

[low blade]

Shoutout to Bully being a big softie

[nocturne flicker]

Slab 🗣️🔥

[rare pulsar]

See the Slab! watch him flail!

[low blade]

Sweet Brute takes the cake

[gloomy tartan]

I think ogryn and cutthroat vet grt along every time I play now that I think about it

[nocturne flicker]

bully's an example of the kindest people being mean on the outside

[crystal crane]

Certainly kinder than slab but not as cool as behemoth. Then you got the psykers calling em sweet brute

[gloomy tartan]

Ogryn is too pure for cutthroat to hate lol

[nocturne flicker]

Smite theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[low blade]

Ogryn and all vets are the nicest pairings often and frequently

[rare pulsar]

God i need my pc back

[lethal solstice]

All the vets like the ogryns because they worked with them the most pre inquisition

[gloomy tartan]

Ogryns never did anything wrong

[low blade]

As very few times do the Vets throw shit at the Ogryns

[hollow zephyr]

ok that was catfish that moved, strawhat left

[nocturne flicker]

what's wrong with it

[rare pulsar]

Broken and in repair

[crystal crane]

Ogryn is best and only buddy who will always be there

[gloomy tartan]

That makes sense ogryn is most familiar to vet besides another vet

[lethal solstice]

Idk pub ogryns tell me otherwise

[low blade]

Ogryns in the guard are seldom disliked. For hopefully obvious reasons

[gloomy tartan]

I mean they do a good job

Not much to hate on

[nocturne flicker]

catfish got changed to a different department within fatshark. marketing iirc, specifically content creation and such.

strawhat and kitefin both left, and now quickpaw is CM

[low blade]

The rare hard carry Ogryn tho

[gloomy tartan]

As a tool of war they are effective

[crystal crane]

Then they deserve a good beating

[lethal solstice]

Gets rarer the more I play

[rare pulsar]

All the vets love their ogryns

And ogryn respecc the vets

[low blade]

We go through CMs like a Guard regiment goes through eager liutenants

[lethal solstice]

I don't remember the last time I've been strictly carried

[gloomy tartan]

Ogryn is best advancement in war since the wheel.

[rare pulsar]

Boss is strongest

[hollow zephyr]

especially when they are the ones pushing the wheels

[low blade]

Most of my "Okay I am absolutely carrying this team" moments were on Ogryn, funny enough

[crystal crane]

I live to be a shield and hammer

[lethal solstice]

I just do it on everyone

Not carrying is more of a surprise

[gloomy tartan]

Wait wait wait guys guys guys

[lethal solstice]

Mostly cause I just qp auric

[gloomy tartan]

Ogryn carrying a vet on his back like yoda

[lethal solstice]

If I played aumael ever this would be different

[nocturne flicker]

i feel really bad bc i couldn't rescue a fem savant who died on extract earlier.

GirlFailureAdvisor her name was. died a lot but kept perservering, never left. my teammates rushed extract and i couldn't go help her by myself safely bc i was out of nades and wasn't running indomitable nor taunt

[crystal crane]

Some folk do make it hard though. Somehow folk still don't get the squad system

[low blade]

Yes but Ogryn feels more like carrying than killing dozens of disablers with my lasgun

[lethal solstice]

See thats the problem

Kill them with a double barrel instead

[nocturne flicker]

im genuinely saddened by this

[low blade]

I used the plasma when it was just plain bad. I spit upon all good ideas

[crystal crane]

Kickback never fails at clearing rooms

[hidden trout]

how do you know when i look at chat

[nocturne flicker]

me too 😤

[gloomy tartan]

I bet nurgle grows some crazy strains of dank

[lethal solstice]

I keep a camera inside the playtester cupboard

[hidden trout]

[nocturne flicker]

i used release revolver to get that dumb dumb ahh one in the chamber penance

[gloomy tartan]

Forbidden nurgle og strain

[jaunty path]

Starts farting

[crystal crane]

Blue boy burned it all

[lethal solstice]

Slaanesh does better

[low blade]

One time I was quickplaying Vermintide 2 Legends all night (and sometimes when you do that you get the same like 12 people on rotation) and that night was the worlds most determined Witch Hunter Captain that just DID NOT stay alive. 3 different people were like "Dude this CANT be fun for you. Go down to Champion. You arent even playing most of the map" but he wouldnt hear it

[crystal crane]

Slaanesh is pills and hard drugs

[nocturne flicker]

i love those sorts of players.

please, lord, let me get just one more- oh it's the same dude again

[lethal solstice]

No they probably have some absolutely diabolical strains around

[gloomy tartan]

Slanseesh has bill cosby popsicles in their fridge

[low blade]

For like 10 glorious days I lived like a shitty NEET owl that slept all day and tided all night and consistently played with thw same ~15 odd regulars on rotation

[gloomy tartan]

Khorne definitely drinks monster energy drinks

[lethal solstice]

Khorne does steroids like water

[gloomy tartan]

Khorne sweats steroids

[crystal crane]

Is that why he is stuck in the chair?

[low blade]

It wssnt a "Welp he tried and did good for it. Just needs to get into the groove" type of potential high-difficulty newbie. it was genuinely just he NEEDED to learn the game more on lower difficulties. Its not like a few flukes he just died in every single encounter he fought

Like we'd pick him up and he'd be dead within 100 feet without even running afoul of specials

[nocturne flicker]

ohhh.

[low blade]

Like MULTIPLE people were like "Hey man this isnt being rude but maybe you need to go to a lower difficulty you just arent vibing"

Nobody was mean about it

At least that I saw

[crystal crane]

I could never get into vermintide as well as I did with darktide for some reason. Not sure why

[lethal solstice]

Darktide is faster

[gloomy tartan]

Dark tide feels looser with builds?

[lethal solstice]

More neuron stimulation

[low blade]

Vermintide is the harder game, imho

[gloomy tartan]

Vermintide felt like my build mattered WAY more

[nocturne flicker]

yeah. there was this one psyker i played with once that we ended up just booting bc he was walking over to poxwalkers and dying within 5 seconds of us reviving or rescuing his ass. every single time. kept doing it and it was putting a strain on the team so we all just went "yeah we gotta kick him, this can't be fun for him if he's not trolling atp and it's starting to ruin the game"

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah darktide feels easier

[crystal crane]

Eh... maybe? I just seemed to get bored with vermintide after an hour or so but can play darktide pretty much all day for some reason

[gloomy tartan]

I like the personality interactions

Gives me left for dead vibes

[low blade]

I'd rather re-earn True Survivor than do a full Cata playthrough in VT2

[whole glade]

who is a historical figure we can all say was based? oh yeah John fucking Brown

[crystal crane]

MLK?

[cosmic burrow]

Vermintide was my slower and harder with much more emphasis on blocking and melee

[gloomy tartan]

That 4 randoms shooting the shit while shooting shit vibe from left for dead gave me a itch to scratch and darktide filled it.

[low blade]

Jarvis I'm low on reddit karma make a post disavowing an obviously bad thing and hyping a good person

[low blade]

True, the dodges are weightier

[whole glade]

he was pretty coolio

[dawn kite]

Darktide is more complex basically sums up why bots are extremely bad compared to vt2

[nocturne flicker]

reddit makes me dryer than the mojave

[low blade]

Scoreboard mod in DT shows that like 30 attacks blocked is the highest per team a lot

[dawn kite]

Vt2 is way more punishing though

[crystal crane]

I think it is more I just wasn't as into fantasy as I was 40k

[whole glade]

FALLOUT NEW VEGAS?!

[gloomy tartan]

Wishing for a nuclear winter ?

[low blade]

But in VT you HAVE to learn to parry

[thick fog]

Also profesisional

[cosmic burrow]

You dont but ok

[nocturne flicker]

staaaaarrrrrrs of the midnight ranges.

doo doo do dooooooooo

[cosmic burrow]

Understanfablr

[dawn kite]

Vt is fundementals

[low blade]

I mean you also dont have to put your left hand on WASD but sometimes things are massive improvements

[whole glade]

who was the burnt mf? i keep forgoring his name

[dawn kite]

If u do them well game is easy

[gloomy tartan]

I guess my cadian only likes other psychopathic mf’s

[cosmic burrow]

Yeah

[crystal crane]

Why block? Their puny blows break upon my bulk and then I break them with my pipe to regain my toughness

[whole glade]

bodyguard ongryn happy = happy life :3

[cosmic burrow]

Joshua graham

[nocturne flicker]

joshua graham.

yeah, i call caesar "edward"

[low blade]

Maybe its because I'm a GK main but I needed to get back into the actual groove of blocking an attack for once

[whole glade]

jawsh gram

[dawn kite]

Joshua is goated

[whole glade]

uhhhh....huh

[gloomy tartan]

Burning man should be about Joshua grahm instead of rich kids playing hippy

[nocturne flicker]

i'll cast shade on edward for not allowing homosexuality in his reconstruction of an ancient mediterranean civilisation

[gloomy tartan]

Just have a guy in bandages talking about sermons with a handgun

[crystal crane]

Been getting a lot of tired sad talk from my bodyguard. Feels bad

[gloomy tartan]

Sad ogryn? For Shame

You just need more corpse starch

[cosmic burrow]

Let us remember joshua from Van buren. Was meant to be the most murderous fucker around

[whole glade]

he sad cuz no ration

[nocturne flicker]

in the original fallout 3 ("van buren") that was cancelled, he was called "the hanged man" and was REALLY evil bc he was still part of the legion in the time of the setting (2253 iirc)

[gloomy tartan]

He shared rations too much

[low blade]

Getting soldiers to stop sodomy is like trying to hold back the ocean with a sheet of paper

[nocturne flicker]

exactly

[gloomy tartan]

Wait in fallout 3 they had the idea of Josh graham?

[whole glade]

cuz he saw lil uns were hungry too

[crystal crane]

Seems more like he wants to stop fighting and go home

[cosmic burrow]

Yes the black isle fallout 3

[gloomy tartan]

Ooooooooo

[cosmic burrow]

Nit bethesdas f3

[nocturne flicker]

the ORIGINAL fallout 3 made by black isle yes. it was cancelled in 2003 or so

[dawn kite]

My life in 2025

[gloomy tartan]

Cutthroat veteran is just a attack dog who wants encouragement lol

[cosmic burrow]

And van buren evolved partly into new vegas

[whole glade]

who doesnt at this point in the Darktide

[nocturne flicker]

yeah new vegas is effectively the fallout 4 of west coast in terms of chronology including van buren as 3

[cosmic burrow]

Aside from new vegas having miles better writinf than f3 on f4

[gloomy tartan]

If we live on a rogue trader ship youd think we could have fun on free time. Some fancy alcohol or soemtning.

[crystal crane]

But it is sad! Dude even made it sound like he was losing faith in big bone daddy

[nocturne flicker]

van buren took place in arizona, colorado, new mexico and utah

[gloomy tartan]

If we could afford it I mean

[dawn kite]

F4 dialogue is peak comedy at times

[cosmic burrow]

Yeah. Also part on ..black isle cannon..

[lethal solstice]

Not really

[dawn kite]

And its even funnier cuz it wasnt meant to be

But it is.

[lethal solstice]

We're off in our own little corner, and the only difference between a rogue trader ship and a standard navy ship is who owns it

[cosmic burrow]

Bethesda has this ..eternal waste.. idea which means civilization that partly revut wont last long

[whole glade]

i want everyone to be nice to ogryns. they deserve all da rations

[gloomy tartan]

It’s only the impotent people who get stuff on the down low eh?

[crystal crane]

We live on the ship as expendable infantry

[lethal solstice]

Yes

[lethal solstice]

The ship has a crew of like 27000 or smth

[gloomy tartan]

I like the comms transmission where everyone is like yooo…you got the shit?

[gloomy tartan]

They sound like such narcs lol

[cosmic burrow]

And i still dont undestand why they nuked shady sands and new vegas in fallout season 2

[nocturne flicker]

unlooted supermarkets 200+ years in the future is straight up laughable.

bethesda's fallouts would be fine in terms of worldbuilding if they were set within a couple decades of the great war nuke event

[crystal crane]

Poor farm boy wants to see the war end and go see trees

[whole glade]

i swear! they gas you up when you walk by

[fierce cave]

Is a a mission Trans

[gloomy tartan]

Because it’s cheaper and easier to build it for the show if it’s nuked and mostly destroyed

[cosmic burrow]

Yes

[low blade]

Iirc Loose Cannon implies that there is some manner of stasis used on rejects

[somber stream]

When is the new shop again?

This or next week?

[whole glade]

and be with other farmers

[somber stream]

Why are you a fish now

[cosmic burrow]

Let us not forget that new vegas is thorn in bethesdas eye

[gloomy tartan]

I swear the commodore lady is the nicest

[whole glade]

also

[gloomy tartan]

And it’s only cuz we give her money

[nocturne flicker]

bro i forgor she even exist

[gloomy tartan]

😭

[whole glade]

GW DID MY BOY CHAIRON DIRTY

[dawn kite]

Yeah i remember seeing vt2 maps for the first time and saying fk that must have been expensive

[whole glade]

IDGAF

HE NEEDS BETTER

RETCON IT

[obtuse oak]

This is a myth

[crystal crane]

I like it when she sings he lil sea shanty

[lethal solstice]

He needs worse

[cosmic burrow]

How so?

[lethal solstice]

Kill the rest of them

[fierce cave]

Mythical even

[gloomy tartan]

I wish we could shit talk like sefoni

[lethal solstice]

In 1 sentence of less

[low blade]

The NCR being nuked was an idea of Chris Avelones for a long time, as he was the first "The world shoulsnt get better, the NCR is too big for our setting" guy but how he abandoned this idea varies. Josh Sawyer claims he had to talk him down, Avelone claims he decided for himself. Its not a "new" idea that the NCR being so advanced was harming the setting, to be fair

[whole glade]

But chairon :[

had titus' back

[gloomy tartan]

Sefoni is just vibing and fucking with everyone she wants to she seems chill

[whole glade]

:[

[lethal solstice]

Who even is chair man

[whole glade]

the guy from SM2

[gloomy tartan]

I mean as chill as a crazy ass psyker can be

[fierce cave]

Crazy ass psyker

New name

[cosmic burrow]

I dont see it that way. Thwm being over stretched yes too big no

[fierce cave]

Poten

[crystal crane]

Pretty chill for what I assume to be an ex daemon host

[whole glade]

Titus' right hand man

[nocturne flicker]

nah nah. try Willem Dafreak

[obtuse oak]

She's just a psyker, not an exorcised daemonhost lol

[lethal solstice]

Oh can we kill him harder

Like

[gloomy tartan]

Calling us play things is red flag tho

[fierce cave]

ITS THE GAY DWARR
F

[whole glade]

:[

[lethal solstice]

Give a specific line about him dying to a roadside bomb or smth

[nocturne flicker]

hi what's up? :3

[whole glade]

he was 10,000 years old

[obtuse oak]

It's super difficult to exercise a daemon from a host while leaving the host alive

[fierce cave]

Uh

[whole glade]

:[

[crystal crane]

She has what looks like the daemon host runes carved into her skin

[lethal solstice]

They're not evil runes

[gloomy tartan]

But what happened to long dick the beloved fallout npc. Did the nuke get him?

[obtuse oak]

The Exorcists chapter of the space marines famously go through this process and it's extremely dangerous

[cosmic burrow]

Long dick johnson?

[gloomy tartan]

You know why they call him that right?

[low blade]

Rather that from a gameplay perspective its hard to have your post-apocalpytic RPG when there's a near-pre-war state that could handle any problems the player could. Hence why New Vegas makes them seem widly incompetent and nerfed in ability. Reliant fully on you. I can get it why it makes sense. One of the few criticisms I have with New Vegas is that

[nocturne flicker]

no-bark noonan is the chosen one, prove me wrong

[cosmic burrow]

Yes

[gloomy tartan]

No bark is cooking up crack in the crock pot nukes can’t kill him

Same as easy Pete

[nocturne flicker]

as in the fallout 2 protag

[whole glade]

goog

[cosmic burrow]

Fnv has it fair amount flaws. I see why. Then again legion is also civilizing the waste in some way

New cananites were also doing that

[whole glade]

me when FNV has no sprint

[cosmic burrow]

Got used to it

[lethal solstice]

Legion is "civilizing" in the same way colonial powers do, but worse

[whole glade]

but funny

[cosmic burrow]

Yes im not saying the are doing it right

[low blade]

The Tribal mans burden

[nocturne flicker]

you lot hate the legion bc they're evil, i hate them because they dishonour the legacy of the real rome. we're not the same

[gloomy tartan]

I like the voice line where ogryn tells cutthroat vet that Brahms talks to him and Brahms must not like the cutthroat veteran lol

[low blade]

Caesar talks about his Rome larp like its not "fully" finished yet because he doesnt have a Rome

[gloomy tartan]

All “ actually we talk a lot she must fucking hate you lmao “

[nocturne flicker]

skill issue fr

[gloomy tartan]

Everyone loves ogryn even Brahms

[nocturne flicker]

and btw just call him edward. it makes him giga mad

[gloomy tartan]

Caesar is dumber than a molerat

[cosmic burrow]

Yes he has 4 int

Whe snuggles has 5

[gloomy tartan]

Doesn’t doc Mitchel’s have low medecine skill too

Like below average or some shit

[low blade]

Yeah its placeholders not meant to represent the character

[gloomy tartan]

Hey he fixed your headshot wound

[cosmic burrow]

You would need to check

[gloomy tartan]

But that makes it more fun lol

[low blade]

He has like 35 medicine

[low blade]

Like Fantastic has above average INT

Iirc

Shits fucked

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah he’s intelligent but a moron

[nocturne flicker]

funny enough "Caesar" originally was a cognomen (nickname) meaning "the Hairy"

iirc

[gloomy tartan]

Charisma makes way more sense for fantastic

Since he bullshits like a protagonist

[cosmic burrow]

Let us not remember that charisma is the dump stat in fnv

[gloomy tartan]

Traveling with a silver tongue to everyone except us

[nocturne flicker]

Julius Caesar? ❌
Gaius Iulius the Hairy. ✅

[gloomy tartan]

Charisma is broken whenever you level it

But not necessary at all

Cuz you can just kick everyones ass like John Wayne woulda done

[nocturne flicker]

intelligence dump stat fans would like a word

[gloomy tartan]

I think we can all agree we need endurance so we can carry stuff

[split mauve]

that's strength

[gloomy tartan]

Fuck your right

Ima jump into the Grand Canyon now brb

[low blade]

People talk about dump stats like an all-DLC courier isnt maxxed 10s and 100s across the board with negligible planning

[vast path]

It's leandros fault.

[lethal solstice]

You need endurance so you don't get flattened by anything that moves

[cosmic burrow]

Yeah

[gloomy tartan]

I like the secret language idiots in fallout have

[split mauve]

endurance is useless apart from the amount of implants you can get and perks requirements

[gloomy tartan]

Where they talk sophisticated to eachother

It’s charming

What if ogryns sound smart to eachother lol

[cosmic burrow]

1 int fallput 1 playthrough

[lethal solstice]

Reminder that leandros is largely in the right

[low blade]

"My friend, mere moments ago I saw just such an occasion" is still the funniest Fallout line ever

[gloomy tartan]

And we sound stupid to them lol

[nocturne flicker]

i assume it's like how boomhauer hears himself normally and everyone else sounds like him

in KotH

[gloomy tartan]

Truly the best idea

We need a rat running around the ship like the rat the kids chase in freeside

[cosmic burrow]

But my dream fallout game is f1 and f2 remake made by larian

[gloomy tartan]

Chased by hungry ogryns

So you can shoot it and feed them

[nocturne flicker]

i mean fallout 2 is getting a remake in fallout 4

project arroyo it's called

free mod made by fans

[cosmic burrow]

I mean crpg not fps

[nocturne flicker]

fallout 1 was getting the same treatment but the mod project shut down a couple years back... either 2024 or 2023 if memory serves

[low blade]

Shoutout to the former cop Psyker calling Arbites "Oppressor" like its the mid 90s and they're a sheriff pissed off at the FBI agent running their murder investigation in a sleepy pacific northwest town

[gloomy tartan]

The roughneck nickname makes me feel like I need to lotion my neck

:c

Like I’m not ashy dog chill

[lethal solstice]

Roughneck is an actual term

[gloomy tartan]

I know…

[split mauve]

can't wait for project arroyo to be completed so i can get called the f slur while walking around town

[gloomy tartan]

Wtf does rough neck mean anyways

Like we’re tough skinned?

[astral basin]

Redneck

Yehaw

[lethal solstice]

I think its usually applied to experienced soldiers

[gloomy tartan]

Oh so they’re being nice?

Psykers allways call me that

[grave plaza]

Professional, when i gave him title of mercenary

[astral basin]

Not necessarily but

[wicked sentinel]

It just means someone rough

[gloomy tartan]

I like how zealots just scream

All the time

[nocturne flicker]

it also bears a resemblance to leatherneck which is used for naval infantry (ie marines)

[long sigil]

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh

[gloomy tartan]

Consistent

[low blade]

Gruff and ruff guy, usually working a physically demanding job or occupation. Making his skin all tough.

A more military term would have been "Leatherneck" since that specifically comes from Marines

[wicked sentinel]

Usually used for oil riggers

[grave plaza]

the deep voice or the master mankind one?

[gloomy tartan]

It’s hard to pick

[nocturne flicker]

still wakes the deep ptsd

[gloomy tartan]

Pluss when they light stuff on fire

[low blade]

(Marines used to have tall leather shirt collars to absorb sword strikes)

[gloomy tartan]

I loved the fire event lol

[gloomy tartan]

Wait fr?

[grave plaza]

I use the scottish voice and given him named of hispanic

[gloomy tartan]

That’s badass

My collar must be popped

[low blade]

Yuh, you can look it up and see some old uniforms with thick leather necks

[gloomy tartan]

It’s for protection

[nocturne flicker]

Is your name Aurelio?

[astral basin]

“Sworn enemies like scots an everyone else!”

[gloomy tartan]

What’s ur favorite melee weapon?

[low blade]

This is my INCREDIBLY FLIMSY excuse to say it but watch The Terror it has royal marines.

[gloomy tartan]

I luv me chain sword

[low blade]

But I love to shill The Terror

[gloomy tartan]

Rip n tear

[grave plaza]

no, is named after saltpyre but spanish

[low blade]

Combat Axe my beloved

[astral basin]

Heavy evis

[lethal solstice]

Taxe and shovel

[gloomy tartan]

I don’t see that much 😮

I need to see the combat axe tech

[nocturne flicker]

all my characters are named Aurelio. but i came across a fanatic (scottish) zealot with that name too, and it's latin/hispanic

[lethal solstice]

Weird

Cause combat axe is really good

[gloomy tartan]

The shovels little switch looks neat

I see mace a lot and two handed melee

[lethal solstice]

I don't use that mark

[gloomy tartan]

Captain sword a lot too

[low blade]

Shovel also lets you have comically high impact on a Vet so you can knock the shit out of everything and scamper away

[gloomy tartan]

Sometimes daggers

[lethal solstice]

The wooden handle one is just better

[gloomy tartan]

Ohhhh it’s good for knocking shit down?

Hmmm I might have to try it

[lethal solstice]

It also kills things

[nocturne flicker]

it also just... sounds better too

[gloomy tartan]

I use chain sword and Bolter

[lethal solstice]

Because uncanny skullcrusher is literally the combo of all time

[wicked sentinel]

It's a vet super weapon

[nocturne flicker]

like the folding shovels sound so weightless

[low blade]

And anything it cant kill you can stagger and run behind a zealot

[gloomy tartan]

Cuz I’m a basic fuck

[lethal solstice]

Shotgun

[nocturne flicker]

the standard shovels go fucking CLONK

[twin flower]

Bolter is good tho whadya mean

[lethal solstice]

I have a shotgun

[low blade]

I love me lasgun

[gloomy tartan]

Oh yeah bolter is life

[low blade]

I mostly use my shotgun with a shock maul anyway

[gloomy tartan]

But using bolter and chain sword is basic I’m sure lol

[lethal solstice]

Bolter is cool but like
Double barrel

[gloomy tartan]

Most mainstream Warhammer weapons

[nocturne flicker]

i desperately want to use infantry lasguns but they don't keep up with the current enemy density

[gloomy tartan]

I like recon las too

[lethal solstice]

The Better Direction Remover™

[gloomy tartan]

Power sword was fun

[nocturne flicker]

so i'll use recon until infantry lasgun gets buffed

[low blade]

I adore my Kantrael. Pop the heads of specials and elites and then use the shovel to knock around anything that gets close

And nades

[gloomy tartan]

I wish I could make infantry las work

[low blade]

Lots of nades

[lethal solstice]

Inflas just feels terrible

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah 🙁

[low blade]

Its my favorite in the entire game

[lethal solstice]

Massively exaggerated recoil + so so vfx and poor performance

I would rather use anything else

[low blade]

I breeze through Aurics just popping skulls and getting 100000000 crits

Incredibly easy to crit-farm with

[lethal solstice]

Know what also crit farms

[gloomy tartan]

Shotgun is fun as hell

[lethal solstice]

Double barrel

[low blade]

I cant explain iy. I know its bad, and yet

[lethal solstice]

100% crit rate

[low blade]

Its so fun

And it just works

[twin flower]

Infantry Las?

[gloomy tartan]

I run out ammo too fast lol I need to aim better

[nocturne flicker]

needs inherent cleave (low values but still) on non-armoured to shoot priority targets through the increased horde density and help with horde clear a little bit.

reduce its visual recoil so it stops bouncing around, which makes being suppressed PARTICULARLY miserable.

the mk ix (former MG XII) needs a DPS buff to bring it in line with the other two bc now it just sucks compared to the other two

[lethal solstice]

Probably means you're just shooting too much

[gloomy tartan]

I get to level 20s in havoc

[low blade]

Even on high Aurics I barely have to touch ammo pickups with my lasgun build

[gloomy tartan]

But 30s are hard

[low blade]

And thats with shooting chaff with it as well

[gloomy tartan]

That too probaly from panicking

[low blade]

The only threat to me with my lasgun build is my own tunnel vision

[lethal solstice]

I feel like bolter is pretty hard to panic fire

[gloomy tartan]

True that lol you get locked in on headshots and forget to check behind you

[nocturne flicker]

yeah infantry lasgun is really ammo efficient at least. i prefer having LOTS of ammo instead of having smth more punchy but less ammo efficient. it's the appeal of las weaponry

[low blade]

The infantry lasgun is the only gun someones complimented my aim with

[nocturne flicker]

but thing is the damage on infantry isn't the issue (except on mk ix) it's just... the quality of life and struggling to deal with current enemy density

[split mauve]

what do you mean enemy density

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah the crushers are hurting lol

[low blade]

Nades and shovel. Knock them around and they dont even get to swing back

[lethal solstice]

Inflas also has the issue of having multiple weapons in its niche that just perform better at the same thing

[split mauve]

oh infantry lasgun

[nocturne flicker]

enemy density got a massive increase since release and it's made the infantry lasgun less relevant to the gameplay flow due to how it has insane tunnel vision at no real benefit. and you can't reliably kill priority targets in time because other minor enemies are in the way

[low blade]

Helbore always makes me feel like I'm playing worse and Recon just doesnt hit right for me

[gloomy tartan]

Just need to dodge enemy better I guess

[twin flower]

What are the chances they'll improve on the next update

Infantry Las I mean

[low blade]

Kantrael just feels right. In my most played class, its by fsr my most played weapon too

[gloomy tartan]

I keep gettin stuck on something and rushed by multiple crushers lol

[nocturne flicker]

yeah exactly

[nocturne flicker]

not sure. it took them years to buff vigilant autoguns

[low blade]

Anyway, add Mordian cosmetics

[untold skiff]

Recon and hellbore are 2 completely different weapons.

[nocturne flicker]

could be next update, could be in like 2027

[twin flower]

[gloomy tartan]

Hey what do you think exploding bolter or damage bolter?

What’s better?

[lethal solstice]

For most uses the older mark is better

But the new one has funny trash clear

[twin flower]

I like the AoE Bolter

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah it has more ammo toooooo

[untold skiff]

The raw damage is better the AOE is meh outside of stagger.

[twin flower]

Despite the mixed opinions lmao

[low blade]

Damn the meta

I dont know the meta and I refuse to learn it

[gloomy tartan]

It has to be better for me to not choose more ammo option

[low blade]

I got my True Survivor title. I did my time

[gloomy tartan]

So I can go blam blam blam more

[low blade]

I am free

[lethal solstice]

I care less about the difference between good and fun for ranged weapons

[gloomy tartan]

bows

[lethal solstice]

One shoots better and doesn't feel very different

[gloomy tartan]

I don’t got that shit lol

[lethal solstice]

And I melee 95% of the game

[nocturne flicker]

duelling sword makes me so incredibly sad.

tried running chaxe before it was buffed on a team of stealth ds4 zealots. i was always out of stamina bc i was constantly sprinting to keep up with those high ahh mobility asshats

[gloomy tartan]

Dueling sword ppl be DASHING

[nocturne flicker]

they were killing everything

[gloomy tartan]

They fast fuckers

[low blade]

Duelling sword may be the meta but its also really fun

[nocturne flicker]

it made me like... aww i don't even wanna play this anymore bro

[gloomy tartan]

It amazes me how fast some classes can be lmao

My slow ass veteran watching sonic the hedgehog

[nocturne flicker]

i hated it bc the push attack on mk xii chaxe pleases my autism

[low blade]

We do a little backstabbing

[gloomy tartan]

I like the charge on chain sword to deal with chunky/armored enemy’s

[lethal solstice]

I hate the chainsword specials

[untold skiff]

There are lots of better weapons then dueling sword for melee focused builds dueling sword is mostly slotted cause it's the carapace deleting swiss army knife.

[gloomy tartan]

It does alot of free damage to shields

[low blade]

Some may question my love of the duelling sword but then they find out I have an adderall script and it all comes together

[lethal solstice]

"Why yes I would like to plant my ass here for like 3 seconds to maybe kill 1 enemy"

[thick fog]

opinion reject

[nocturne flicker]

i do like killing big crusher reliably while staggering.

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah it reliable for bosses and heavy’s

You can dodge out of it

[lethal solstice]

And lose all the damage

Because its all backweighted

[gloomy tartan]

I mean when a crushers going to smash you and kill you

You gotta dodge

[thick fog]

simple as that

[jaunty path]

Completed havoc 20

Yay

[low blade]

Special on chainswords is for crushers, stunned maulers, and bosses facing the other way. Other than that, just avpid it. Ez as

[twin flower]

Nah you throw a Krak at it

[untold skiff]

Congrats.

[gloomy tartan]

I mean if it’s at range yeah

[low blade]

Trvth nvke

[jaunty path]

I wanna get back up to 29

[gloomy tartan]

I’m talking when it’s about to hit me range I dodge lol

[lethal solstice]

I don't like weapons that require me to sit and stare at any enemy without dodging to do reliable singletarget

[jaunty path]

so I can beat 30 someday

[low blade]

Chainswords just feel great as well

[gloomy tartan]

That’s understandable

[low blade]

Chainaxe is incredibly fun in a horde

Light spamming that and just tearing through

[untold skiff]

I believe in you

[low blade]

Peak

[gloomy tartan]

Chainsword feels like doom marine

[lethal solstice]

I would rather be able to kill something while moving

[untold skiff]

I need to get back on the havoc grind to get my assignment to 40

[lethal solstice]

I know they just did a balance pass on chain weapons but reving still needs some work

[untold skiff]

Demoted from 34 to 32 over the past 2 weeks

[gloomy tartan]

Hey if you want it buffed I ain’t argue

I luv the mf

[lethal solstice]

Not buffed

[nocturne flicker]

i like the power falchion, although it prolly needs a slight attack speed buff. using it w trench fighter drill feels like it should be normally

[lethal solstice]

Just changed

[low blade]

Watching people do Havocs after retiring post-TS is like being a veteran of the Somme watching young men evacuate from Dunkirk

[gloomy tartan]

What do you think would be a good change ?

[jaunty path]

I don't hate rot armor a lot

but it definitely gets worse as I play higher havocs

[nocturne flicker]

and rampage. i don't see why other more powerful bladed power weapons can have rampage but not power falchion

[gloomy tartan]

lol rot armor feels stronger

[twin flower]

Rework the Infantry lasgun so I can rock a proper Vet look

[gloomy tartan]

It did not feel this hard before my g

[jaunty path]

Its just tankier.

[lethal solstice]

I feel like it needs to be entirely rebuilt, because as is it just doesn't feel good to rev stuff in an actual fight

[gloomy tartan]

oh hell yes rework infantry law

[untold skiff]

When did you stop doing havocs bound by duty or?

[gloomy tartan]

Infantry las pls be gud

[jaunty path]

Mixed with stims and pink aura? yeah they def tankier.

[low blade]

I got True Survivor a few months back and then never touched it again

[gloomy tartan]

Ok so I’m not just imagining it

[low blade]

I wear it like a badge of honor until Poxbreaker

[gloomy tartan]

Cuz the armored ppl just don’t stop coming

[low blade]

Which I'm probably close to

[untold skiff]

Fair enough I got true survivor I just enjoy the suffering

[gloomy tartan]

Like you gotta back up lmao

[low blade]

I'd bet around 900k if I checked

[gloomy tartan]

I’m marking them with my veteran like a damn sniper spotter nonstop man

It just doesn’t stop

[jaunty path]

I'm probably gonna need to use evis when I play higher havocs, I'm using tac axe rn and its been serving me well.

[lethal solstice]

Evis is probably a downgrade

[low blade]

Evis my beloved

[gloomy tartan]

I guess I need to change my build to get to havoc 40

[jaunty path]

Mainly just to kill rot armor faster but eh

[gloomy tartan]

I cap around 23 or soemthing I think I forget

[jaunty path]

I'm using fotf but ik ppl r gonna rlly want book

[untold skiff]

I have started doing crusher Martydom zealot and I'm having a lot of fun with it.

[low blade]

"Good weapon this good weapon that"

You pick the weapon that you like using and then do it

[low blade]

Yeah thats when you absolutely chase the meta

[lethal solstice]

People are bitches
Run fotf anyway

[gaunt wind]

Beggars cant be choosers

[gloomy tartan]

I do like the idea of never changing what I like though…

I play dark souls

[jaunty path]

Its perfect when I have a lot of health, I'm a martydomzealot

[gaunt wind]

Ive been running Martyr Thunder Hammer for ages

[gloomy tartan]

So I’m used to playing what’s fun and just suffering until I succeed

If I just get gud I can just never change lol

[untold skiff]

Eh I wouldn't even run book zealot anymore.

[gloomy tartan]

If I believe

In the emperor

[untold skiff]

Actually I refuse to run book zealot

[lethal solstice]

You should try tactical axe/shovel mk1 and double barrel

[low blade]

Out of curioisity, how many people actually bother with multiple builds and presets? I have like all 8 loadouts on my vet and zealot with different weapons and slightly different perks

[untold skiff]

If you want yellow toughness I only bring it on vet.

[jaunty path]

I've gotten into taking heals even as a martyrdom zealot.

[lethal solstice]

Dopamine cannon build

[gloomy tartan]

I literaly just use the same build and switch my gun or sword

[jaunty path]

I'm pretty strong even with full health.

[gloomy tartan]

I like what I like 🙁

[jaunty path]

hmm

[untold skiff]

All my load out slots are filled on most of my characters

[lethal solstice]

I have 13 builds on most characters

[gloomy tartan]

I mess with it sometimes when I have a idea to see if it sucks or I like it better

[untold skiff]

I need to get the bonus load out mod so bad

Should just be vanilla ffs

[gaunt wind]

I have a few builds on every character

[gloomy tartan]

I’m all about marking stuff to regen my team toughness super supportive

[low blade]

Martyrdom in havoc? We would have crucified you in my days a few months back. I played most of my Havoc when you avoided Ogryn entirely and spammed shouts, book, and bubbles. Duelling swords, plasma, and warpflames galore

[lethal solstice]

I don't like focus target

Takes too much work for such little reward

And doesn't really enable any particular playstyle

[low blade]

Its a single button dawg

[lethal solstice]

You just bolt it on and run it

[gloomy tartan]

It makes stuff die more tho

[lethal solstice]

That you have to use on every single elite for value

[thick fog]

and charges slowly

[gloomy tartan]

Dude idk why but it stacks

[thick fog]

Now ping every enemy on sight

[untold skiff]

I mean the only thing that changed is you're allowed to being ogryns and yellow toughness isn't as op.

[lethal solstice]

So does weapon spec or MF

They make things die way better though

[low blade]

Its one twitch of a muscle on your middle finger it cant be that mentslly taxing

[gaunt wind]

You do very well without sweating up til around Havoc 30 then you gotta lock the fuck in and hope for a good team

[gloomy tartan]

It’s fun when one thing dies marking the next one

[lethal solstice]

My thumb, and it prohibits me from playing double barrel

[low blade]

I'm actually a little astonished I didnt add the group I got TS with. Good lads

[lethal solstice]

And its only a 20% bonus

[untold skiff]

Most people who use that keystone actively bind their ping to scrlwheel down

[lethal solstice]

I get 20% damage against everything if I crit in melee once

[untold skiff]

So they don't have to actually click the thing

[low blade]

Loadbearing "if"

[lethal solstice]

50% crit rate

I will crit

[gloomy tartan]

It helps me see too if it’s dark

[hasty sky]

I like focus target because I've been obsessively tagging things I think are a threat to the team since the days I played payday the heist

But also, WS better

[untold skiff]

The finding a good team part is the difficult part.

[gloomy tartan]

I click it randomly and I see an enemy I can’t see

[lethal solstice]

And also this isn't entirely true because of how focus target works but weapon spec makes me do fuckloads more damage anyway

[low blade]

I ping fuckin everything before I shoot just so I can see the head outline better

[gloomy tartan]

Or I make it easier to see a sniper

[low blade]

Even if the whole team is looking at it. Second nature

Even on vet builds without focus

[hasty sky]

Focus target had more appeal to me when the vet tree was still dogshit. Now. Ehhhhh

[lethal solstice]

Yeah

Its just outclassed

[gloomy tartan]

It’s helpful also to be like HEY LOOK AT THIS SHIT

Like when a crushers about to squish a psyker who has tunnel vision

[lethal solstice]

It only finds true value against bosses or ogryn enemies, and I want my keystone to do more than that

[gloomy tartan]

Or a bomb guy running behind your vet friend

[low blade]

Focus Target would be buffed by not letting you wipe your 6 stack with 1 stack by accidentally double pinging something

[gloomy tartan]

Yeah that shit sucks

[lethal solstice]

Thats more qol than a buff

[gloomy tartan]

Why is that a thing

[lethal solstice]

It would still be worse than the other two

[gloomy tartan]

Why can you just wipe your stacks lol

[low blade]

Not with a community this stupid

[untold skiff]

Marksman focus is way better on any weapons that can really make full use of it. And weapon specialist just has all the good perks leading up to it

[hasty sky]

Yeah mmf is actually usable now

[lethal solstice]

A WS is just amazing on its own

[low blade]

Focus target does have a lot of good preceding talents for standing behind your team and hurling hate from safety

[gloomy tartan]

I like that when ever the stuff I mark dies I get toughness back

[hasty sky]

A lot you say

[gloomy tartan]

Tbh that’s main appeal

[lethal solstice]

I like to hurl hate from point blank

[hasty sky]

Does anyone here run competitive urge. Be honest

[gloomy tartan]

I mark stuff they kill it we keep getting toughened back

[lethal solstice]

And WS has way more stuff leading up

[untold skiff]

Dafuq does it do agian?

[lethal solstice]

FT has BID, tactical awareness, rending strikes (weapon dependent), and demo team

[low blade]

Moreso meant the 5% nades, which pay back nicely on higher difficulties. It also lets me satisfy my gambling addiction without my wife taking the kids

[gloomy tartan]

I like getting nades back for free every 60 seconds

[low blade]

And tactical awareness is just plain good

[gloomy tartan]

Chance to throw two is also fun

[lethal solstice]

WS has agile, skirmisher, reciprocity, exploit weakness, and desperado

[low blade]

For similar reasons of no lack of enemies

[hasty sky]

2.5% chance for bonus damage and stuff whenever you or ally in coh kill an enemy

[low blade]

Yes thats very nice for you. But the whole "buff your team" path buffing your team is also nice

[hasty sky]

Lasts 10 seconds? Idr

[untold skiff]

Awww hell nah

[low blade]

Think its 8, innit?

[lethal solstice]

Which of the things above FT buff the team besides Born Leader

[untold skiff]

Too unreliable,

[hasty sky]

Smth like that

[low blade]

Either way even with 2.5% for any enemy its shit yeah

[lethal solstice]

Its just leave no one behind and born leader

And buffing me is buffing the team

Because I'm killing more things

[hasty sky]

Shit is kinda like a worse psychic vampire 😭 that thing is already really bad because 4% chance is too low

[low blade]

Tactical awareness is amazing with shout vet

[lethal solstice]

Which is good for the team

[gloomy tartan]

Giving the team a toughness shield is useful too

[lethal solstice]

I'd consider tac awareness a self buff

[untold skiff]

Problem is reliance on coherency and a lot of people enjoy playing outside coherency even in havocs.

[lethal solstice]

Synergy with piss toughness is cool but I use shout for myself 95% of the time

[low blade]

Which pairs well with shout vet, the path its on. As you see, the trees split but largely the 3 lines all focus on a specific playstyle

[untold skiff]

I sometimes hold my shout for 2--3 seconds if I see an opportunity to get some good stagger value out of it aswell

[lethal solstice]

I feel like middle has lost its specific theme at this point

[low blade]

I mean if you're an idiot in Havoc maybe but

[low blade]

Anti-elite and team buffs. You spam krak, focus important elites, and help the team

[rare pulsar]

Frfr

These people deserve fragging

[gaunt wind]

If my team is playing outside coherency in Havoc im already mentally preparing for my next match

[untold skiff]

Plenty of situations where you have to.

[lethal solstice]

Its like 4 team buffs (outside of voc and FT), and none of which are particularly good

[low blade]

Not really, unless shits going bad and someone fucked up

[primal tartan]

but sah there's a shiny rock I must go 200 feet away

[hasty sky]

Darktide is a singleplayer game 👼

[lethal solstice]

Born Leader requires semi dedicated building to be useful
Leave No One Behind is a luxury pick with competition
Covering Fire isn't good
And Field Improv is a highly situational luxury with extremely limited usefulness

[primal tartan]

speed zealot can feel like that at moments

[gloomy tartan]

Remember how my the plasma gunners used to be spawn lol

They used to run DEEP

[low blade]

Horrifically wrong about field improv you clearly have never enjoyed 12 grenades in 10 seconds (Just ask your team if you can first)

[wicked sentinel]

Angry plasma

[abstract fiber]

launch state plasmas or launch state beastmen archers

go

[hasty sky]

I love leave no one behind on my infil build

[untold skiff]

Coherency range is only about 8 meters

[lethal solstice]

Extremely situational and limited use

[rare pulsar]

Field improv is good on corruption havocs

[lethal solstice]

You can do that twice

Maybe

[low blade]

Stealth reviving a Psyker surrounded by 8 crushers and running away before the screaming starts

[rare pulsar]

But its not really needet beyond imo

[low blade]

And its fun both times

[lethal solstice]

And its competing directly with Serrated

[untold skiff]

If you are not constantly leaving and entering coherency at nauseum in a havoc match I'd be baffled.

[lethal solstice]

Which does something the entire match

[low blade]

I think a major difference is the middle tree is fun, not the best ever lmao

Its an auric quickplay toy I aint doing havocs dog

[gloomy tartan]

I love middle tree when I have a team that rocks with it

[low blade]

I'm using the godamn Kantrael I dont chase the meta I shoot heretics

[gloomy tartan]

When the team stays close you can melt through some enemy’s real fun

[hasty sky]

I'm joking

[lethal solstice]

The meta argument doesn't really work when you can't feel most of the difference when its all talent nodes

[primal tartan]

I AM THE SLAB AND THE SLAB IS ME

[low blade]

Real ones remember when the plasma venting used to be WAY worse and wasnt basically free

[rare pulsar]

I allways hated plasma gun

[hidden trout]

the gun also didnt have cleave then

[rare pulsar]

Never understood the hype

[low blade]

Used it since day 1. It was my first 550. It was abysmal dogshit.

[gloomy tartan]

Dude

How do we wash off the stank

[low blade]

Remember when Vet could stand still and be invisible? What the hell were they thinking

[gloomy tartan]

From those nurgle slugs

Every mission

[rare pulsar]

Dont hug it

[gloomy tartan]

Or do we just rock it with that slug stank on us

[primal tartan]

Damn. Once I understood/got into the rhythm of the plasma gun I became a plasma-fanatic. It's genuinely satisfying, plus I also can't lie the visuals are cool.
It just cleaves through hordes and turns special's into heretical mist

[gloomy tartan]

No but like it’s barfed on every one atleast once

Or ate someone