general-chat

[gusty plume]

Guys ok real shit

[rose spire]

but a skitarii would work

[gusty plume]

The new class is

[short oar]

to be fair, aint that far off, i gotta go shower anyway

[rose spire]

yeah they would make it better for it ofc

[gusty plume]

One of the 40,000 Warhammers

The first Warhammer

[little cloak]

Nah

[tired inlet]

ghul-Maraz?

[gusty plume]

John Warhammer

[little cloak]

It’s slaugth stop lying to the people

[fossil siren]

inquisitor class real

[gusty plume]

It's Nagash

[rose spire]

Space marine

[little cloak]

Nah it’s slaugth

[formal mortar]

I AM THE WARHAMMER

[gusty plume]

Isn't that just Zealot but MKULTRA?

[rose spire]

I think they should add space marine class because space marines are cool durrrrrr

[formal mortar]

The next class is a warhammer

[rose spire]

only if they aren’t radical

[little cloak]

And this is another reason to add the slaugth

[rose spire]

our inquisitor is a radical though

[tacit geode]

Funnily enough the cm said it wasn't a space marine today hahaha

[neon zinc]

Theyre gonna do a sneak reveal launch that why I got delayed

[little cloak]

Yeah because it’s slaugth

[gusty plume]

Guys real shit do we wanna see a Plague Marine boss

[ancient violet]

I have collect the 40 thousand Warhammers

[fossil siren]

gameplaywise? yeah would be cool.
lorewise? nah we'd get folded instantly if it was a fair fight

[ancient violet]

It's over John Warhammer

[unreal crest]

Add a 15 year old space marine

[neon zinc]

It's gonna be john grammaticus and everyone insta gets him and has to play as him daily to keep the game

[little cloak]

Yes but no. It would be cool but 1 marine = all the marines show up and fuck shit up and now it’s lame :(

[gusty plume]

This is what Sigmar said before he fucking died

[ancient violet]

Every war has its hammer

HORUS HERESY

[rose spire]

my hopes are dashed i was betting on that

[little cloak]

Not necessarily true, 1 ogryn killed multiple chaos terminators in a book

Plus plague marine has no answer to the psyker bubble

[fossil siren]

i remember someone suggesting if they were to do it, make it an entire mission where you chip away at it and they go away, and we track and keep pouring it on, or its already weakened, but you bring up the good point of 'if 1 is there theres BOUND to be more and it gets old fast'

[gusty plume]

Only Ogryns know the true power of being fucking stupid

[hollow zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-hammer-cant-touch-this-gif-20008560

[fossil siren]

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.

[rose spire]

introduce them and make them nigh unkillable, turning the encounter into a chase scene

[little cloak]

He picked one up and slammed it down on its head breaking its neck and killing it instantly.

[rose spire]

until you reach a decontamination room

[rose spire]

m

no

[elder oasis]

Humans are territorial apes. But we are also social creatures. It is scientifically sound to point out our tendency towards fighting for territory and ingroups is not unique to any single group.

And its not justification, anymore then pointing out other animals behaviour is justification. We can only hope humans in the future are capable of applying what makes us socially cohesive to a wider and wider degree. It sounds like you dont believe humans evolved behaviour that is unethical to pursue. Which i cant understand.

[rose spire]

we do not use that as an example

[fossil siren]

so makie it like the end of jedi survivor with darth vader then. i like it.

[rose spire]

yeah but like random events

[little cloak]

I also disagree with the way the plague marine mission should go

[gusty plume]

This just feeds my theory tha Terminators actually fucking suck and no one is willing to accept it

[ancient violet]

Ok buddy, I'm sure the 1800s ecologists would love your take 👌

[rose spire]

Part of one mission maybe deep in the territory

[lethal solstice]

We'd totally clap a marine
Vet with psword plasma and kraks
Zealot with thammer or relic and bolter
Psyker
Ogryn with pick and hstubber

Instant death

Any one of these can kill instantly

[rose spire]

dude

[little cloak]

It should be built around a leman russ tank that you have to either pilot as a crew or defend while it’s getting repaired and drop some shells on the plague marine

[rose spire]

eisenhorn

legit almost

died

looking at the marines face

Or armour

Our psyker would unironically explode

[fossil siren]

you forget james workshop would never let the big boys get folded by the story equivilent of 2 crackheads with a knife, a big lad, and a cop with a dog

[rose spire]

if exposed to the plague marine

Like dude would turn into a chaos spawn at the same time we see a health bar

[little cloak]

They’ve let an ogryn body multiple chaos marines at the same time so 🤷‍♂️

[snow bane]

Instant death from uber plague

[dreamy shuttle]

They would get bolter shot to the head and that's it

[lethal solstice]

I can't post it in general but you've seen the clip of a marine just getting pasted by an ied literally infront of them (in sm2 no less)

[fossil siren]

make it so we're helping the mobium 53rd kill them as a combined effort

[rose spire]

but yeah even a base plague marine would annihilate us instantly purely cuz chaos marines have that aura

[little cloak]

True

[dreamy shuttle]

Also I think we can take like whole 4th company of Death guard. We eat Beast or Nurgle, Plague Ogryns and Chaos spawns.

[ancient violet]

Couldn't handle how hot they were? 😈

[fossil siren]

honestly fair. i love not being super into the lore all i know is traitor astartes are a big threat and normal people usually cant deal with them alone

[dreamy shuttle]

In terms of Lore, we're Gods.

[rose spire]

he saw horror beyond human comprehension

so yeah ig

[fossil siren]

oh yeah we're the equivilent of an astartes with no helmet and a name.

[rose spire]

I jus wanna say an ogryn killing a chaos marine is usually regarded as poor writing

[little cloak]

Ogryn are slightly physically stronger than space marines so if they get the time to move and get their hands on a marine they can crush em

[rose spire]

warhammer writing is very all over the place

[dreamy shuttle]

Acheran sadly did meet his fate tho lol

[rose spire]

But like an ogryn should not 1v1 a space marine

[dreamy shuttle]

He had only 2 men, not 3

[fossil siren]

im reminded of a meme i saw 'who would win, named astartes with no helmet, or the rock with his no losing a fight contract clause'

[little cloak]

Correct

They are slower and dumber

[rose spire]

Even unarmoured

[dreamy shuttle]

No. Space Marine would kill him.

[fossil siren]

yeah but they got offscreend so come on now. was the onlyw ay it could happen

[dreamy shuttle]

Space Marines have tactics and knowledge, Ogryns just brute power

[rose spire]

a chaos marine is far worse a match up bc they genuinely have some quirky shit going on by jus being around them

[little cloak]

The terminator was focused on the commissar I believe it was and got grabbed by the Ogryn

[rose spire]

and 10 millennium

of experience

[rose spire]

yeah but even then it’s kinda poor writing

terminator plate is like

yk

[dreamy shuttle]

True lol

[fossil siren]

ogryns have the size down, astartes have the knowledge and the speed

[little cloak]

He got dropped on his head full force

Broke his neck

[fossil siren]

straight up yarrick'd

[dreamy shuttle]

I think what's most possible is Plaguebearer Boss. As we already fight demons

[little cloak]

Plus he also got lit up by a shit load of bolter fire while charging them and died shortly after but that’s a different convo

[fading token]

People forgot the time Ogryns (despite being modified/or augmented) were clapping traitor marine cheeks until Horus buffed his marines to push them back, was a 40k wiki page fyi that I saw the generalization

[dreamy shuttle]

And Nurglings as new enemy

[fossil siren]

ogryns are too pure for this world

[dreamy shuttle]

Space Marine would need whole new skeleton and animations

[rose spire]

i mean tbf i didn’t think about that

[elder oasis]

Humans are animals, animals evolve behaviour, violent behaviour is part of that evolution.

That isnt a controversial statement. And 1800s ecologists were stupid and believed in race realism and many didnt even believe in evolution. They used bogus taxonomy to try and support pseudoscience.

[rose spire]

we are literally killing daemonhosts and beasts of nurgle

that in itself

isn’t feasible

[little cloak]

Yup, gave em drugs, ceramite, and 1000 of em and they were pushing back the traitors before Horus showed up

[rose spire]

so what’s one chaos space marine

[fading token]

just modify the existing ogryn skeleton to fit the bill....

[dreamy shuttle]

Yup. That's why Plague bearer would fit as another 'zerker type

[little cloak]

Slightly smaller and moar ROTUND

[ancient violet]

Hmm I wonder why they would like your take then? Seeing groups of people reduced to static individuals 🤔

[rose spire]

i think a round 2 of introductions being more chaos based and focusing on corruption damage would be kinda cool

would also show the hive city is falling apart more

obviously they’d introduce more to deal with corruption damage

[fossil siren]

wouldnt it be the equivilent of going 'i beat this 10 year old, surely i can beat up mike tyson' (genuinely asking i dunno the power scaling)

[little cloak]

Ogryn can kill marines and we’ve fought like 6 monsters in one mission, we can smoke one plague marine

[dreamy shuttle]

I always felt like Nurgle was depicted wrong in Darktide tbh. Nurgle isn't just Zombies, it's Disgusting resilience. It's sickness, damage over time etc.

[rose spire]

in a book a daemonhost like destroys a titan

[little cloak]

Krak grenades plus psyker bubble = ez

[acoustic pebble]

As much as I am disappointed that our release is next week.... Dispatch episodes drops tomorrow!

[dreamy shuttle]

Give us missions with full puddles of acid and vomit, with larvas in it etc

[fossil siren]

ok fair enough then

[acoustic pebble]

Curb stomp Shroud

[rain idol]

If we were fighting a plague Marine it would have to be an incredibly weakened one like beyond weekend just about on the verge of death

[wooden pilot]

All ya' need is a krak grenade, and a good throwing arm. And ya' can yeetus deletus that Space Marine!

[dreamy shuttle]

W40k Balance Depends on Writer.

[little cloak]

False

[acoustic pebble]

How about a big friendly rock?

[dreamy shuttle]

Guardsman could solo Primarch if the Writer said so.

[long trench]

yeah Im on the verge of death on mondays too

[little cloak]

Krak grenades + psyker bubble solo 🗣🗣🗣

[rose spire]

daemonhosts and beasts of nurgle are generally stronger than plague marines

[wicked sentinel]

Lol what they do fire someone important before the reveal? I was like oh well guessing I can go to sleep then

[neon agate]

People cannot forget that the largest enemies we fight are majoris and those are bosses

[wooden pilot]

I don't see why not. I mean, have you seen the karkin' speed on that thrown rock? Like hot damn!

[snow bane]

Easy fix give the plague marine a name

[fossil siren]

yeah everything ive seen boils down to rule of cool > actual scaling

[little cloak]

Marines are also majorus threats…

[elder oasis]

Not groups, my view looks at humans as a species. Humans do not have a smaller genetic group then species in terms of organization of organisms they can be in biologically speaking. All humans are like 99 percent similar and we are one of the more inbred of apes.

You cant extrapolate from individuals as individual human behaviour is very unpredictable. But 6 million years of human existence isnt relying on individuals, but the entire species.

[rose spire]

lol

[long trench]

You guys remember in RT when you fight the first chaos marine and your whole team is like" oh no, we're are fucked." And then Argenta just gats him down. Good tijmes

[little cloak]

Humans are actually really close to bananas, fun fact

[rose spire]

Yeah lol

Rogue trader was awesome man

[snow bane]

When in doubt add a name

[little marten]

😼

hello

[neon agate]

Are they? I am like 95% sure if we add a space marine on our side or an enemy one it would have to be super weak

[snow bane]

Kebby and Cassia carried me in all the fights

[rose spire]

We wouldn’t get a marine on our side

frankly like

[shell creek]

The more accurate version is Argenta getting her head blown off by the sniper that hangs in the very back

[snow bane]

True

[elder oasis]

Yes the funny 60 percent figure. Always remember thiugh that depends on the methods used to compare dna XD

[rose spire]

the rejects don’t need them

[lucid yoke]

a marine is not overwhelmingly stronger than any of the bosses or even ogryn

well, except the captains i suppose

[little cloak]

All of the thousand sons besides the terminators and wizards are majorus threats

[neon agate]

I see huh

[rose spire]

i jus want more demons to fight man

[elder oasis]

Lets be honest guys. The game isnt picking enemies based on powerscaling.

[rose spire]

whoever said nurglings was cool

[drowsy lynx]

I wouldn't mind seeing a space marine class if it took up two player slots, but it would be a nightmare to balance. Also fuck space marines

[rose spire]

i think more enemies are needed instead of more classes

[jolly shadow]

plague bearers 😄

[lethal solstice]

That would be terrible

[little cloak]

Both

[shell creek]

They're never adding marines to dt

[elder oasis]

The reason marines are prolly a no has more to do with GW being unlikely to wsnt to implement such a sacred part of their IP without alot of stipulations

[neon agate]

Fook space marines in the sense they aren't cool right? Not the other thing?

[rose spire]

ratling is the only class i want and then a skitarii / combat servitor is cool and all but like i dont see much to that

i can see atm

[shy sandal]

Yeah, but they need to be in the believable range, otherwise GW axes their heads for the slightest misalignment

[shell creek]

No the devs have said they wanna keep it focused on regular humans

[unreal crest]

🤝

[shell creek]

Marines take the spotlight most of the time

[snow bane]

[shell creek]

Give the regular guys a chance

[elder oasis]

Id love a space hobbit. But they said no classes that are differently sized

[rose spire]

we kill beasts of nurgle snd daemonhodgd

we kill literal demons

[rose spire]

a ratling will come

i am acc sure of that

at some point

they’re too good a choice

[snow bane]

What about a void born

[shy sandal]

It's like Star Wars always having Jedi shoved down your throat, meanwhile the better media on the franchise revolves around the lack of the Jedi

[rose spire]

too similar to arbited

oh

[snow bane]

Would be fun to have a class with a lot of random chances of stuff happening

[rose spire]

no i’m thinking of something else srry

isn’t a void born more of a background

[shell creek]

Unsanctioned pysker: have a chance to accidentally summon daemons or just instantly die lmao

[elder oasis]

I meant just as an in general rule, not why we wont have a player class thats a marine

[elder oasis]

Tbh i was surprised necromunda got a marine

[snow bane]

That’s what the void born would be like every melee hit have a 10% chance to set a random enemy on fire 4% to stun 60% to bleed

And technically they are regular humans

[loud hawk]

their body isn't the only thing that's augmented

[nimble glade]

Do abhumans and half machine people count?

[shell creek]

We literally have an ogryn class lol

So of course

[nimble glade]

[low hemlock]

yes, since we got the Ogryn Servitor helmet

[gusty plume]

Not even, Ogryns are Abhumans. They're just like that

[heavy tapir]

skitarri

[shy sandal]

I am not too familiar with the tabletop or lore, but i believe it is more believable to see a singular Beast of Nurgle compared to a singular Space Marine. Especially since Marines tend to be in squads rather than walk solo.

And it is more believable that a strike team with resources can kill a lesser demon or a monstrosity, then a coordinated, military trained, super speed, super soldier.

[gusty plume]

Skitarii Catgirl Transbian

[elder oasis]

Yes both ogryns and psykers have beaten marines in fair terms.

We definitely have the capacity to kill a marine. At least a baseline one

[hazy stone]

Votann kin???

[jolly shadow]

according to table top a beast of nurgle is harder to kill than space marines imo

[nimble glade]

True, gives us Ganger.

[fleet igloo]

Relatively normal people. Not Imperial heroes, but as close to normal people as possible while still letting us use iconic 40k weapons in a power fantasy

[nimble glade]

The people have spoken

[little marten]

wow ive never been summed up so perfectly

[gusty plume]

I feel like I've seen you on another server

[loud hawk]

so they're just naturally gifted, I see

[elder oasis]

Definitely harder to kill, but creatures like that fall under what i like to call "monster rules"

[fleet igloo]

Ogryns are more often heavy labor than military auxilia.

[low hemlock]

tbf, there’s dialogue in the game

that a small defensive of Guardsmen fell easily to a bunch of pox walkers from Wolfer

while the Rejects take down over 100,000 of them with ease

[nimble glade]

Hella funny ngl

[short oar]

After careful consideration (literally thought of it in the shower) a tech priest class could actually be true, since i remember therea lot of combat variants to them, and it could work like a support (litanies) a summoner (servitors) or even something like melee and power syphoning (see electro priests)

[nimble glade]

Wolfer:

[ancient violet]

Ok look I don't think this is the right place to discuss this topic

So dm me if you want, but I honestly think "human nature" topics are reductionist and boring at best. So I'm basically checked out at this point.

[agile crag]

yeah veterans have also defeated space marines too 😤

[low hemlock]

so realism in the game of Darktide is throw out the window

if the Rejects can take down enemies that other Guardsmen Regiments on Atoma can’t even achieve

[short oar]

So we might have to prepare 10 bucks for the dude who said techpriest

[low hemlock]

[shell creek]

This is 40k. Realism was never important to begin with

[elder oasis]

Yeah this is the other thing. Realistically what our rejects as a team are able to kill is insane.

[nimble glade]

Ganger confirmed

[shy sandal]

You can chuck that into "Named character vs. Unnamed character"

The rejects are treated the same way someone like Ciaphas Cain or Yarrick is treated.

If you got a name, regular powerscaling does not account to you

[little marten]

GANGERS RISE UP

[shell creek]

My bets are on Swagger being the new class

[neon agate]

I know someone who would see this and go "wife"

[nimble glade]

Ganger*

[low hemlock]

guess Rejects are just built dif

[gusty plume]

Yeah, me

[elder oasis]

We stroll up and just casually murder the population of a large village and dip

[shell creek]

I mean there's a reason they're not rejects anymore by the end of the main story

[nimble glade]

Swagger Ganger

[neon agate]

Make that 2 people then

[paper tulip]

NEXT WEEEEEEEK

[hidden trout]

I should try and convince people to start paid bets on what the updates will be so I can just earn passive income

[fleet igloo]

True, but I think the idea has more to do with narrative than in game power scaling

A 4 person strike team of gifted imperial agents with decent equipment can absolutely accomplish the missions we're being given. It's just that those missions are defended by WAY more things in game than they would be narratively.

[shy sandal]

I would reply to you, but HR said i need to delay the response. See you in a week

[little marten]

Sorry I'll be on vacation

[low hemlock]

damn vro stop Stealing Fatshark’s way of life‼️💢

copycat

[hidden trout]

The IP owner of humanity hasnt approved my message, so its being delayed

[fleet igloo]

A single Chaos Spawn unleashed to handle us when we prove too problematic for a few armed squads? Sure. But the 6th and the Admonition wouldn't have 5 of the things in one place outside of a proper battlefield

[drowsy lynx]

Just overrepresented really

[little marten]

Would you rather they delayed the reveal or the reveal was delayed?

[hidden trout]

Id rather option 3

[low hemlock]

make it MORE Delayed until
December

[little marten]

You can literally play the new class right now!!!! YOU'RE A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING

[elder oasis]

Even then. In my opinion video games tend to be the most loosey goosey with levels of power.

Like in that one game where one marine is just casually slaying Greater daemons.

Then the next level is table top, where every army has to be somewhat close so we get ridiculousness like a custodes being worth 10 guardsmen.... like what

Then there is book power level where a human battle psyker is a dangerous opponent capable of one shotting a marine if they slip up

[placid pond]

I rather the reveal delay than a release delay

[shy sandal]

No pro-

(This message has been left unfinished, don't worry, we'll soon fix this issue)

(edit: Yeah about that, our fixing team went on vacation, could you wait a month or two? Thanks)

[jovial ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450641281585250306/1249544832968429658/image0.gif

[fossil siren]

was the release date revealed before the delay?

[tropic halo]

I am hungy

[jovial ridge]

oh that did NOT work

[hidden trout]

You would be upset at option 3

[little marten]

Ok fine.. What is option 3?

[hidden trout]

Its not the reveal thats delayed

[little marten]

Oh shittttt

That's a big comment but fair

[neon agate]

Big boi would go crazy if the new class was a tech priest

He can make Hadron and stare at her

[shell creek]

Tabletop should not he factored in here. Its not an accurate representation of the lore because balancing needed to be prioritized first

[little marten]

You dropped this 👑

[elder oasis]

I was just laying out my power level opinions. Im not claiming table top is a factor

[low hemlock]

[little marten]

I actually have no stake in the new class/reveal trailer, theres more than enough going on to forget about darktide till the new update and I'd much rather new weapons for current classes than new classes

[hidden trout]

Give darktide players NOTHING
EVER
its the morally correct option

[elder oasis]

Update the game so only vet is an option and call it call of duty zombies

[tacit geode]

delay the annoucement delay the class and shut down the servers for a week as punishment

[hidden trout]

Its too soon for a new class
The last 3 updates all had major class shakeups or additions
And we're getting another??

[slender aurora]

Can't believe they pushed back the ganger release until next week

[elder oasis]

Its cuz 10 years is special. Prolly planned tbis ahead of time

[hidden trout]

No comment

[little marten]

Christmas coffers

[elder oasis]

Not release, just the reveak

[little marten]

Honestly yeah I’d rather FatShark developed the current arsenal, I’d pay for new weapons at this point idc about the community eggshells

[slender aurora]

Can't believe the pushed back the release of the ganger reveal until next week

[shy sandal]

If I'm being real right now i was upset about the news for 5 minutes and then realized there are so many other games being released/updated i can just ignore Darktide and enjoy something else in the meantime.

[hidden trout]

Granted it changes nothing about when you actually can play it

[little marten]

It’s sucks that we didn’t get to see a cool trailer today, but ultimately the mystery is what makes it fun. Once we know it’s just a longer wait between.

[shy sandal]

Yeah, but i was bored of the game already

[elder oasis]

Till December 2nd where they delay it

[hidden trout]

Seeing stuff you cant play tho wouldn't change that much really

[snow bane]

I am foaming at the mouth right now

[little marten]

Based

[zenith merlin]

you see, the real hive gangers we were all waiting for are the new genestealer cultist enemies in darktide coming on the 4th year anniversary

[snow bane]

Ew

I find the nids over used

[elder oasis]

Im more sad i dont get to watch my fave darktide youtubers videos on the trailer with predictions and stuff. I love the speculation period

[tacit geode]

I speculate

it'll be playable

on the 2nd

[fossil siren]

funny i remember feeling that way about nurgle after VT2 used em before darktide

[elder oasis]

Wdym? Nids are the major antagonists in like.... 2 games?

[little marten]

The rhetoric about it being too soon kinda hints that it’s a pretty underwhelming class anyway?

[hidden trout]

I am not sad that I get to hear about incorrect assumptions of the class treated as fact for a week longer than anticipated lmao

[little marten]

Which assumptions?

😼

[elder oasis]

Bro mister E knew it was a dog like immediately. Bro was full dogtide dont act like they dont hit the mark sometimes

[snow bane]

All the games I played have them

Not as main antagonist

[hidden trout]

That was from the teaser, not the trailer

[snow bane]

Deathwing rt SM2 hired gun

[elder oasis]

But he did get it right. With less info, so he can get other things right too

[hidden trout]

I remember someone saying castigators stance was DOA because "taking damage isnt a playstyle", and everyone accepted that as fact

Turns out
80% dr
Is really good

Who knew

[tacit geode]

ogryn rework is worse

[short oar]

Was ganger leaked somewhere? Why 3veryone saying ganger

[hidden trout]

OMG YEAH

[tacit geode]

mental illness

[elder oasis]

Meta assumptions arent my rodeo, thats not what i want the reveal trailer for

[short oar]

Ah i see, carry on

[blazing ibex]

I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of Castigator's. It's kind of a nothingburger ability in a lot of cases.

[little marten]

what are some of the left field guesses actually

[misty trench]

a cold trader armed only with xeno weapons

[tacit geode]

kroot kill broker

[hidden trout]

4% less damage from heavy hitter (but +100% cleave or impact) but also like 5 more free damage nodes on the way there

[shy sandal]

No, but it did kill the expectation and excitement for me.

I don't know, that and the arbites botched release have to be on the top 10 PR fuck ups of the year

[little marten]

that would be so cool

[jovial ridge]

i just want my sweet succulent lore tbh.

gimme the genestealers enlarged megalodon!!!

and missions that be great

[hidden trout]

How was it botched? I can only think of 1 thing that went wrong and it was the dlc being purchasable a few hours after intended

[elder oasis]

Yeah jeantakers would be a great new faction

[jovial ridge]

i'd be sad to kill em,
but i'd be hyped to see em.

[blazing ibex]

Erm. Execution Order.

[wooden pilot]

Honestly, I'd love Xenos, or Abhumans. But I would not say no to an admech of some kind!

[elder oasis]

Xenos could go hard

[jovial ridge]

hormagaunt gameplay when

[twin flower]

Morning gents

[elder merlin]

Im not saying no to any dlc class, im gonna buy all of them when they come out

[hidden trout]

Exe orders bug happened a few weeks after the fact

[elder oasis]

A lot of fun design space for eldar. Even if its a long shot

[twin dirge]

They should just add dwarves so I can rock and stone

[elder oasis]

Kin would definitely rock

And stone

[twin flower]

For Carl!

[wooden pilot]

More or less the same here, I need another class to mix things up with!

[blazing ibex]

True but I suppose that's still pretty close to when it released and it took

[twin dirge]

Mushroom!

[blazing ibex]

How long for that to be fixed?

[twin flower]

Que?!

[misty trench]

Jae Heydari my beloved

[twin dirge]

MOLLYYY

[little marten]

If i just ignore the moral implications of the shipwide vox incident we could build such a life together 😔

[jovial ridge]

An aeldari would prolly give the seer a good competition for starting nearly every sentance with the same word (Monkeigh)

[blazing ibex]

If we're being literal, the release itself wasn't really borked but it wasn't long before something critical did break. And for a decent amount of time too because it was right before their vacation lol

[nocturne flicker]

Imo the best way to do a class like that is do a universal Scum one.

Hive Ganger, Scav and Pirate all in one.

Dual wields, smuggled Xenos weapons and illegally-modified Human Weapons, as well as zipguns. All in one.

[blazing ibex]

Oh and the dog bleed bug.

That was fun. (It wasn't)

[jovial ridge]

i'd be so hyped

and i'd have no money

[elder merlin]

[twin dirge]

See, everyone's over here talking about fighting the deathguard, what if we ARE the deathguard, new class confirmed???

[jovial ridge]

i mean. i have no money. but ya know

[twin dirge]

Explains why we haven't died to rot yet

[elder oasis]

What was unfun about your guns bleed triggering in dog blitz

[blazing ibex]

Disposable income in the big 25? Crazy talk.

[shy sandal]

They left it buggy after a week of release and then went on vacation...

Idk man, that kind of thing makes me think swedish game developers are cursed by some bog witch to be terrible at releasing stuff...

Look at Starbreezer

[blazing ibex]

It quite literally broke any and all engagements in the entire game.

[wooden pilot]

'Em rations did a number on the Ogryns, somehow, made them into plague marines!

[jovial ridge]

new mode: pvp invasions against havoc 40 strike teams as deathwatch termies.

yup. sounds fun

[blazing ibex]

It was extremely annoying seeing entire lobbies filled of it.

[elder oasis]

Thats was just fatshark unleashing (heh) 1 percent of the dogs power

[twin dirge]

That unironically sounds fire

[shy sandal]

Remote Controlled Thammer

[blazing ibex]

At that point, there was no game to play anymore because everything would just be dead before it could be interacted with

[twin dirge]

I wanna vore someone as a burgle

[jovial ridge]

[twin flower]

Saturnine was made for Deathguards, change my mind

[wispy wadi]

Rouge Trader ptsd, please no. Maybe i don't want a space elf

[jovial ridge]

"im not your xenos pet. Mon'keigh "

now imagine a single vet with 3 aeldari on their team

[wispy wadi]

I have a picture of Freeza flashing in my mind every single time

[twin dirge]

LMFAO

Fuck

I know exactly what you're talking about

[elder oasis]

You are infected by the abridged mind virus

[jovial ridge]

they really say it like "monkey" in that game

[elder oasis]

Frieza

[jovial ridge]

allways thought it was more literal

[twin dirge]

People are monkeys too

[shy sandal]

Anyways.

Let's wait until December 2nd, or December 9th if we're being realistic here

[elder oasis]

Its funnier to me since eldar also have ape features

This is mostly due to tolkien making a lot of fantasy "races" human coded

[jovial ridge]

one would think eldar actually was abhuman

but i guess if Votann are xenos, aeldar are strait out

[elder oasis]

Kin are more a cultural xeno

[jovial ridge]

originally humies yeh

[elder oasis]

Definitely aliens to imperials

[shy sandal]

Thank God friendly fire isn't a thing, or else someone would unload krak grenades in a matter of minutes

[jovial ridge]

just likes their AI's a lil too much

[nocturne flicker]

votann are abhumans but they're independent of the imperium. i suppose if our ideas are alien to them, they're alien to us

[elder oasis]

Erm votann are AIs ackshully

Kin are abhumans

You are welcome

Lol

[robust prawn]

Kin are cloned abhumans

[elder oasis]

Damn it your semantics beat mine

[nocturne flicker]

i thought we meant like the leagues of votann. most ppl usually use such terms to refer to kin, sorry for my assumption. but yeah votann kin are abhumans, while there's imperial kin too (known as squats)

[jovial ridge]

pretty sure ive read some places that its disputed between layers of the imperiums Bureaucracy wether they are xenos or abhumans

due to

ya know

imperium being what it is

bad intel

etc

[elder oasis]

Also also, kin dna wise are made of the biomass of multiple other aliens. Because they can literally harvest other species biomass like a tyranid but with tech then actually eating them

[elder oasis]

Im just joshing you

[nocturne flicker]

troll stew too rich for you wazzocks?

😤

[nocturne flicker]

ohhh. sorry, i'm a bit of a dork

[elder oasis]

Of course you are. Discord gamer Femcatboy

[nocturne flicker]

insert atreus "how do you know? how do you know?!" meme

[open tulip]

so, how do you guys feel about the ratling class?

[elder oasis]

Id love it

Im just dont think its likely

[jovial ridge]

i'd not enjoy it most likely

sightlines would be fucked

shooting upwards is not my style

[elder oasis]

Tbf sniping is just one job they do heh

[jovial ridge]

i want a sniper

not a class thats a sniper

[elder oasis]

So we would have 2 more class identities to play

[jovial ridge]

still, no matter the gun, shooting upwards for headshots sounds unfun

[nocturne flicker]

i would love to play as a ratling. hobbits with long-lases.

the issue comes from the technical viewpoint, as darktide isn't designed around short archetypes like vermintide is

[jovial ridge]

i take it back if they can piggyback ride ogryns

[snow bane]

Exactly

[open tulip]

its pretty much all but confirmed in my head tbh

[elder oasis]

Just give them a trait that makes all body shots head shots bam. Totslly balanced

[nocturne flicker]

i'd want a support ability to give them buffed rations bc they're known to be good cooks! 😉

[jovial ridge]

then whats the bloody point o a snoiper!

[elder oasis]

Iirc fatshark said we wont get any classes with a different perspective

[jovial ridge]

it would also get overwhelming fast i'd imagine

[elder oasis]

So that explicitly removes ratlings

[open tulip]

Mr E gave a hint, class is starting with "R E" sound (in today's video, as an "accident" gag" but R E pronounced sounds like RATling. They also did a patch note for removing ratling related voicelines from the game before arbites released.

[snow bane]

2 ratings on top of each other

[open tulip]

when did they say that?

[jovial ridge]

damm. you have me beat

ratlins best new class coming up this reveal fr fr

[open tulip]

i just asked him on stream, its 100% starting with a "RE" or "RA" sound, it was a tease, he played it off but its no accident so its either ratling or... idk. RE...

[elder oasis]

Id have to look, and I dont care to find it. So feel free to ignore my comment as i really am not in the mood to search for sources XD

[open tulip]

re.. raa re reee re

REDEMPTOR DREADNOUGHT

i mean makes sense

[jovial ridge]

Ra- ra

Ravener

Ravener new class confirmed

[open tulip]

so yeah either redemptor dreadnought or ratling and i think its ratling

[elder oasis]

Yes playable xenos

[tacit geode]

Or

He's lying

[open tulip]

could be. Lets theorycraft.

[jovial ridge]

on the internet?

[snow bane]

3 ratings in a trench coat

[jovial ridge]

impossible

[open tulip]

nah i dont think its a mislead on purpose its a very small bit.

[jovial ridge]

now you are getting ahead of ourselves

[tacit geode]

Have you seen Mister E lol

[open tulip]

if he was doing that he would say "SKI" as to get people hyped for skiitari or something

[elder oasis]

Is it in the video about the class reveal being delayed?

[jovial ridge]

we WONT get skiitari

[open tulip]

yeah that video

[jovial ridge]

we will get some other lower decks adepts

thats how i see it anyway

[ancient violet]

I would rather trust a CIA agent over Mr E 💀

[jovial ridge]

unless they wanna do it like the arbites

the skiitari are more militarised and roboi

[elder oasis]

Tbf though they dont NEED to give us a skitarri to give us smth that plays like one

[open tulip]

brother he is in the content creator program 💀 💀 💀 💀

[snow bane]

Cry

[open tulip]

he knows what the class is its not about "trust"

[jovial ridge]

like a tech broker

thats a mechanicus position

rather low one

[gentle cedar]

Hell yeah, quality release. Love that shit fat shark

Darktide

[snow bane]

How about a high inquisitor

[elder oasis]

Lil

[open tulip]

im ready to bet my left nut on ratling, especially because they deleted character voicelines about ratlings before. Literally no stronger evidence than that + mr e hinting it starts with "RA/RE"

[elder oasis]

Shows up, smacks rannick in the face

[hidden trout]

Mr e doesn't know what the class is though

[ancient violet]

I can care less

[craggy nebula]

Reclaimator would fit that hint

[jovial ridge]

rouge trader

we play as brahms

[open tulip]

dude he literally DOES fatshark works with content creators and they know ahead of time

[hidden trout]

So am i

[ancient violet]

Wait there is a "club"?

[tacit geode]

Yes adn you're not in it hehehehaha

[elder oasis]

Yeah do any youtubers know this time? How early did they find out last time

[open tulip]

you a darktide youtuber?

[ancient violet]

Even if you work with Fatshark, he could still be lying 💀

[nocturne flicker]

cole's also in that program and i'd believe him. especially since Mr. E's hint was just a meme

[hidden trout]

The creators havent been told what the class is

[jovial ridge]

prolly not yet nope :P

[heavy mango]

i'd take cole's word over mister e's even if mister e had a gun to his head

[snow bane]

Smack rannik 😳

[elder oasis]

Several members in the discord get playtest versions. They arent celebs like Joplaysgames or mister E but they do have youtube channels

[nocturne flicker]

like i talk to mr E sometimes and we have our theories, but being a creator? that doesn't mean he KNOWS

[open tulip]

hmm now i dont know about that man. If anything i believe in mr e's meme/hint more, cole could be the one doing a diversion here if anything 🤔

[ancient violet]

From a business perspective what does Fatshark gain from telling the creators ahead of time anyways?

So they can leak it? 💀

They can't playteat it yet

[elder oasis]

No cole 100 percent gets stuff early

[hidden trout]

Hardly, but I've got some videos
But I am a playtester

[open tulip]

nah im putting it all on red, i bet my left nut its ratling

[elder oasis]

This isnt up for debate

[open tulip]

see you in the surgery room boys

[wooden pilot]

Heh, ya'll will find out in seven days heh

[inland mantle]

Your left nut is gone then 🫡

[heavy mango]

cold trade gaming

[open tulip]

hey arent you the announcement guy?

[elder oasis]

I was in the discord when arbites released. Cole 100percent playtested the class

[wooden pilot]

I am just a red name, pal.

[heavy mango]

actually @olive badger can you do 17th instead of 18th so the trailer can be on my birthday? thanks

[nocturne flicker]

i tried to do my own little youtube channel but lost motivation

[ancient violet]

Mr E has lied on the past so I don't see why he wouldn't do it again

[open tulip]

its not about lying dude its a gag, you dont lie in a gag like that on purpose because its not a gag then

[elder oasis]

Lied or was mistaken

[open tulip]

he went like "we will see news about the ra- i mean the new class on next weekend"

[elder oasis]

Lying insinuates malicious intent im not prepared to put on him

[elder oasis]

Could definitely be a joke

And just a joke

[inland mantle]

Mr E just doing that to get more engagement on the video

[ancient violet]

I feel like ignorance is not an excuse when you are supposed to be an "expert" on the subject 💀

[scenic sierra]

so when the new class dropping?

[tacit geode]

2nd of december

2025

[open tulip]

Making the joke be about a random sound? nah i think its initials man

[nocturne flicker]

yeah i can get behind this. don't attribute something to malice if it's adequately explained by ignorance, unawareness and such

[hidden trout]

Basically
Some showcases of updates and gameplay footage of them
Lower production value, but you get some extra info the content creators might not have cuz when it comes down to it, they had it for a few days and you saw and helped it get made

[jovial ridge]

or thinking something is fun in the moment

[ancient violet]

But he has lied before, not being ignorant

[dry bay]

Inb4 Ad Mech is acutally a hive ganger

[open tulip]

if anyone wants to make a bet im down, im almost sure itll be ratling

[sleek lotus]

Why can't it just be a day

Why a week bruh

[dry bay]

I'll make a bet

[inland mantle]

[scenic sierra]

😅 thnx

[dry bay]

$10 its ad mech

[open tulip]

are we allowed to do this on the discord?

[shy sandal]

Like... Through comment sections or do you actually have a contact with him?

[dry bay]

sure

[open tulip]

or do we move to DMs lol im for real

[misty tulip]

Clearly when Mr E says “ra-“, he’s implying that it’s short for Raven Guard scout marine.

[elder oasis]

Oh so you are even more involved then the popular youtubers

[tacit geode]

Reclaimator

[dry bay]

I will bet the price of the dlc

[hidden trout]

Joke as in "Oops I almost let it slip that it was a ratling teehee", as thats one of the runner up theories that he likely wants it to be

[nocturne flicker]

i can guarantee it was bc GW noticed a background piece was the wrong shade of grey-green

[nocturne flicker]

DMs

[open tulip]

it sounded like "ra" or "re" so it could be REDEMPTOR DREADNAUGHT

[dry bay]

it'll be a Reclaimator

[shy sandal]

Prolly cause they need to reanimate everything and send it to James Workshop to approve

[elder oasis]

Or it could be a really big ganger

[snow bane]

Weird way of say ork

[open tulip]

nah he made a speculation video on EVERYTHING but ratling at this point

[ancient violet]

Hehe a dream told me it was Space Marines 😈

[elder oasis]

Its a really big ork

[shy sandal]

Oh, that's sweet! i love his content

[open tulip]

thats also why i think its ratling. Plus the deleted voicelines about ratlings.

[dry bay]

captain titus will join the rejects

[hidden trout]

Yes
Reworked version EWEW for zealot was my idea
Lone wolf grenade effects was me, and a lot of the parts of break the line and forceful too

[ancient violet]

I'm telling y'all, Darktide playerbase are all prime CIA agent candidates, I should do an interview 🤔

[jovial ridge]

gotta fix some stuff, and such take time

totes not to then check in with mr james shop a ton till its "perfect". so they prepare enough time to achive several times that. so this dont happen again

[open tulip]

thats too much bro i was thinking like, 5 bucks or something

[dry bay]

nah

all in

[open tulip]

i work for 3 youtubers i aint got that type of cash

[elder oasis]

So if i ever dislike a feature i can directly blame you ;) nice

[jovial ridge]

you work?

[hidden trout]

Ive accepted that fact already lmak

[dry bay]

so its ad mech

[open tulip]

5 bucks paypal so after fees its like 4.60 lmao

[jovial ridge]

imagine working

[open tulip]

well its 2x that

[jovial ridge]

cant be me

[nocturne flicker]

yeah that's the thing about darktide youtubers and such. the community is just small enough that you can contact even the biggest creators with a DM as long as it comes with a purpose like theorycrafting

[jovial ridge]

its not like ive tried for half a year now

[dry bay]

I will gift you or you gift me the class

[open tulip]

well, i should be working right now but i am talking about darktide classes.. good point.

[jovial ridge]

git

[tacit geode]

you can dm darktide youtubers right now

[jovial ridge]

to waork

[tacit geode]

cole why is psyker like this

[open tulip]

nah ill get the class for free from mr e's competition anyway thats why i dont wanna do that

[quick haven]

Gonna double my bet it's a form of tech-adept

[dry bay]

Reclaimator

makes the most sense

playstyle wise

[nocturne flicker]

bro i was so excited for the class reveal. went in to work 3 hours later mad about the delay

[open tulip]

so if you wanna make a bet frfr its like, 5 bucks paypal thats it

[hidden trout]

Oops! No nerfs allowed!

[shy sandal]

I usually don't bother because

A. I have nothing to talk about
B. I am a very shy person

[tacit geode]

You're going in the book of curses buddy

[open tulip]

@dry bay what would you be betting for anyway?

like what class

[jovial ridge]

impossible

[nocturne flicker]

i think he's telling you scrier's gaze needs another buff. let's make that tooltip into a steamy romance novel

[snow bane]

We like gambling?

[quick haven]

what if we're all wrong it and it's a felinid?

[hidden trout]

AAAAAAAASAAAHHHHHHAHAH

[dry bay]

the dlc class

[open tulip]

i play 5 card games of course i like to go gamblin

[jovial ridge]

honestly i kid

would be cool

[shy sandal]

5 stages of grief in one single announcement

[open tulip]

nah i mean what are you betting, what will the class be? You gotta win the bet somehow kek

[jovial ridge]

but ONLY

[quick haven]

For the empernya!!

[jovial ridge]

if its the human head full cat body

[dry bay]

Ad mech some form of tech priest

[jovial ridge]

ya know the one

[dry bay]

like Reclaimator

[nocturne flicker]

why would they add ME?

[jovial ridge]

heeeeeeeelo

[hidden trout]

Its the book of grudges
You cant even say it right??
Thaaaats going in the book of grudges, buddy

[dry bay]

it will not be a ganger

[little marten]

crip walk

[dry bay]

GW wouldnt pull the reveal over a ganger

[open tulip]

aight so admech / skiitari ok i would bet ratling

[tacit geode]

book of grudges who do you take me FOR????

[open tulip]

so 5 bucks on paypal?

[jovial ridge]

its mr james shop tho

[dry bay]

but ad mech is in rn and they are selling minis for it

[quick haven]

🤝

[jovial ridge]

but yeah i see the point

[dry bay]

and there is ad mech games coming out

so ofc gw wants to make sure its perfect and fits what they are selling

[open tulip]

nah i dont buy it. Ratling.

[nocturne flicker]

idk man they're EXTREMELY petty. didn't they withhold a bardin eyepatch skin for slayer for like a year or two bc they were being nitpicky?

[jovial ridge]

it also aligns neatly with other mechanicus thingy coming out the 18th

[quick haven]

The Alpharius DLC

[tacit geode]

no flail on warrior priest lol

[dry bay]

exactly

[tacit geode]

they are petty bastards

[nocturne flicker]

that being said an admech reveal would have me busting all over my M&K

[hidden trout]

No shovel on zealot

[elder oasis]

Alpharius is already in the game

[open tulip]

all of you guys will be disappointed, i think its ratling. Alright, can we find a LOGICAL answer as to why they removed all those ratling voicelines from the rejects before??

[hidden trout]

Ill never forgive them

[tacit geode]

thank god

[hidden trout]

NO

DIE

[jovial ridge]

my gut says mechanicus adept, and my brain.

my heart sings for funny gang guy

[tacit geode]

they played too often at level 30

[jaunty path]

Are you guys hype for the pregnant furry girl about to be added

[jovial ridge]

entirely so i can make them bald and give them funny forehead wringles

[open tulip]

yeah nah then they would just tune them down not remove them.

[little marten]

pregnant skin is the deluxe edition

[open tulip]

maybe its female custodes if they are trying to lick GW butt... hmmm...

[hidden trout]

The gassy bowser class is gonna go so hard

[nocturne flicker]

okay imma be real. zealot should probably just get shovels

like the dreg cultist ranged dudes use shovels so why the heck not? being a priest or cultist don't stop you from being a gravedigger or combat engineer

[open tulip]

actually i might wussy out from the ratling opinion it might be female custodes, FK!

[elder oasis]

Furries are one thing but a woman? I still havent recovered from the sister npc being added

[ionic slate]

Hey guys servers aint down right ? Been having the backend connexion error for an hour ?

[shy sandal]

GW when artist draw a single hair folllicle too long

GW when a writer makes lore breaking implications that turn the setting as inconsistent as possible

[hidden trout]

Veteran identity
Thats it
Thats the reason why they don't

[dry bay]

Ad mech will immune to disconnect errors

[tacit geode]

I think it's a Reclaimator anyway

[jovial ridge]

have thou cleansed and pleased thine machine spirit?

[open tulip]

no, disconnect errors will actually just delete the DLC from your steam account and you will need to buy it again 👍

[jovial ridge]

but yeah im pretty sure servers are up

[elder oasis]

Easy fix, just give vet relic blade to ruin zealots identity right back

[nocturne flicker]

then give veteran catachan duelling glaive like the chads we know fatshark can be, c'mon fatshark

[ionic slate]

I will do as the lithanies say then brother

[nocturne flicker]

c'mon baby. give us polearms

[dry bay]

assassin class would be cool too

[outer tartan]

If you have a VPN you may need to turn it off. I have one and every time I play darktide it gets all fucked up and wont let me connect properly so I have to shut mine off.

[nocturne flicker]

psyker needs more vt2 staves too.

i miss my beam staff so much vro

[ionic slate]

It's not a VPN thingie I checked, I'm verifying the files and will check if is my nem adblocker that somehow does it cause I dont fucking know what else that could be

[elder oasis]

I think psyker should have a biomancy staves whose alternate fire hulks him out and slams the ground XD melee stave

[outer tartan]

An add blocker in your browser shouldn't cause an issue with darktide launching and running.

[tacit geode]

quickpaw is a staff wanter too

[ionic slate]

I personnaly am praying for a coprophage underhive class aka psyker v2

[little marten]

what if the new class is actually a

[hidden trout]

BREAKING NEWS: Multiple explosives have detonated underneath the Fatshark AB building, almost a hundred casualties. Wreckage from the explosives indicate they were made in Nottingham. Potential link between the bombing and a recent content addition to their video game Darktide. Stay tuned for more.

[tacit geode]

Will this delay the december update?

[outer tartan]

I find it hilarious that they pushed the reveal back a week.

[elder oasis]

GW prolly pushed it

[hidden trout]

blame mr james

[ionic slate]

Yeah i dont fucking know why it bugs tho I'm pretty decent in IT and have checked everything I thought except files

[outer tartan]

No, it's still on track according to a reddit post by FatSHark.

[nocturne flicker]

if they can justify giving pysker ice kinesis, i'd love to see kerillian's deepwood staff but ice-based. you freeze the heretic in place instead of suspending them in air, and then you throw chonky sharp ice shards at them for the primary

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk2077-keanu-we-have-a-city-to-burn-handsome-shades-off-gif-16336796

i am aware of embed fails

i did it on purpose

[twin flower]

What a rebel

[ionic slate]

this guy is so cool

[outer tartan]

Oh my, if only we could post gifs here, the hilarity would ensue.

[little marten]

Drukhari Broker Class - Three Talent Trees

1. Human Wardrobe (supply and ammunition nodes)
2. Human Chair (health and toughness nodes)
3. Human Broomstick (melee dps nodes)

[elder oasis]

Its not impossible, but typically a space wolf thing

[nocturne flicker]

pretty sure, was it Astropaths? can use ice-based kinesis too

i can't remember

[elder oasis]

Is that a rogue trader thing?

[nocturne flicker]

either way there's precedent for it as you said, although they gotta find a way for it to fit ofc

[elder oasis]

Im a table top player and book reader, i have not played through rogue trader

[nocturne flicker]

i can't remember where i got it from but the dude who told me was a reliable source

like he's big into the lore and tabletop, that sorta stuff. more so than i am

i never got to actually verifying it for myself tho

so we might be wrong

[elder oasis]

Ice kinesis is definitely a thing for sure

[upbeat isle]

Everyone arguing about Hive Ganger and Skitarii while I’m over here like:

Squat! Squat! Squat!

[upbeat turtle]

man they could’ve just said the class

[elder oasis]

Kin would be awesome

[upbeat turtle]

i just wanna know

[elder oasis]

But what kind of kin

[upbeat turtle]

what i would do for a leagues of votann game

[nocturne flicker]

deep rock galactic btw

[tacit geode]

mechanicus 2 dlc maybe

based on leaks

[elder oasis]

Thats so close to being true

[ionic slate]

Mmh I got two other questions for you guys, Do you not agree there is way too much chatter from HQ in missions and inside Mourningstar, I feel I'm in a rainbow Marvel movie ? WHY NO CHAOS WASTES IN DARKTIDE ?

[ancient violet]

Where are my Ork gang rise up? 😤

[hexed vigil]

they have models in base game

[little marten]

No and no

[upbeat turtle]

yeah but i want melee and bolters and an actual votann

[foggy lintel]

Why do hot dogs come in packages of 10 but hot dog buns come in packages of eight? Pretty fucked up.

[ionic slate]

well you drink pus so

[upbeat turtle]

mechanicus aint really in my playbook

[foggy lintel]

Oh my bad wrong Discord

[lethal solstice]

They talk maybe once every 2 minutes for 3 lines

[hexed vigil]

just do it(shia lebouf)

[little marten]

Valid

[solid roost]

great question though

thanks for your contribution

[elder oasis]

Wdym? Kin?

[little marten]

It’s a tricky move from Big Bun to get you to buy more

[hexed vigil]

yeh

[foggy lintel]

Lmao woops

[elder oasis]

By base game are you referring to 40k

[solid roost]

ah yeah we got big oil, big pharma, big buns

[ionic slate]

I still hate it, it's too catty for my taste

[ancient violet]

Nope

Darktide doesn't have dogshit writing like Marvel slop

Only exception might be the Chapel mission, but it is mostly how Wolfer was written not the dialog itself

[upbeat isle]

Yea, but is that even remotely lore possible? No, right? I’m not an expert.

[hexed vigil]

Mechanicus 2

[elder oasis]

I personally play kin in 40k

[upbeat turtle]

buy 10 packs of buns and 8 packs of dogs

[hidden trout]

erm, the daemonhost is right behind me, isnt it?

[elder oasis]

I see, i heard they were going to be playable. Very cool

[foggy lintel]

Why would you do that though?

[lethal solstice]

PLEASE

[little marten]

OK JARVIS, LETS STOP LISTENING TO THE MEAN HADRON LADY 😎

[upbeat turtle]

infinite hot dogs

[ancient violet]

Talking is now banned 😔

[tacit geode]

DLC 1 for mechanicus 2 is called "Leagues of Votann"

[elder oasis]

Why wouldn't you

[ionic slate]

I'm did't know shit about 40k before this game but I thought the tone of the game would be way gloomier and creastfallen

[foggy lintel]

That's too much Glizzy

[elder oasis]

That could be anyone

[tacit geode]

I think ganger

[ancient violet]

I mean have you heard what people are saying?💀

[ionic slate]

I hate that voiceline exactly man

[elder oasis]

Ganger faction for mechanicus 2 lets go

[ionic slate]

Yeah still could be worse

[hidden trout]

it doesnt happen often so its whatever tho

[hexed vigil]

that's 4 the book, in the sense that how did this get published lmao

[ancient violet]

I'm not sure how it could be any worse than a Psyker justifying the black ships

[solid roost]

is there skitaari femboys in mechanicus? if so i might be interested

[nocturne flicker]

like, scoob... he's right behind me isn't he? 🗣️🔥

[hidden trout]

what really gets me is the "well that just happened." after you kill a boss
it happens like half the time man

its so annoying

[nocturne flicker]

millennial writing

avengers ahh dialogue

[ancient violet]

"yoinks Scoob! that demon host is pretty spooky!!?! 💀"

[lethal solstice]

I would pay for this

[nocturne flicker]

me

[ionic slate]

Their tone and outlook isn't that alien from 21st century rejects.

[ancient violet]

????

Please explain these "rejects"

[elder oasis]

Its a meme. The real skitarri are horrific body horror cyborg warriors who fight on horribly irradiated worlds that guarentee their deaths. But the implants and replacement parts keeps the rad sickness from killing them for a long time at least

[ancient violet]

I'm curious

[ionic slate]

K ok, I just like when games have a very specific mood like other artworks and this doesnt feel to have that as much as it could sadly

[ancient violet]

Wait rejects in game

Rejects in real life 🤯

[nocturne flicker]

the access to radium and phosphex weapons doesn't help but damn are they cool

[ionic slate]

You just havent unlocked the penance that unlocks that voiceline

[elder oasis]

When the space cancer kills the enemy faster its a good tactic

[solid roost]

would fit dark tide well from the sound of it

[ionic slate]

People burned out by drugs and tragedies, for ex, castaways etc

[solid roost]

i’ve only seen their perspective in the brutal kunnin book

[short oar]

CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK CRUNCH "YEAAAAUUUGH"

[nocturne flicker]

i get a stiffy from watching people roll around in pain and a pool of their own vomit as their hair falls out

[ancient violet]

Isn't that exactly what the rejects in the game are? 💀

[nocturne flicker]

watch their skin melt off

[elder oasis]

They actually straight up have a subtype of skitarri warrior that emits irradiation on purpose in an aura to help kill people

[nocturne flicker]

cinema assoluto

[solid roost]

if my skin falls off make me hadrons pleasure servitor

[elder oasis]

Sicarians i think?

[short oar]

Just about every skitarii unit does that

[frosty tinsel]

Hm

[elder oasis]

Im talking about the ones that actuslly get the rule in some editions in 40k

[solid roost]

night lords time goodnight varlets

[short oar]

Infiltrators ad modern music to the mix (shits so bad it blocks all your senses)

[ionic slate]

Yes, I feel you didn't understand what I said. Are we living in the litteral 40k universe ? Are things not bleaker in 40k ? How would the 40k rejects outlooks on life would be even more jovial in tone if not content than irl ppl. Other question, why would the official crew of the Mourningstar waste saliva talking to throwable prisoners that much

[little marten]

id live on a paradise world so id be fine

[upbeat isle]

People use humor to cope. Nurses, doctors, soldiers. It’s part of the human condition. It doesn’t contradict the bleakness of the setting or the circumstances—sometimes it’s just whistling past the graveyard.

[minor narwhal]

probably works out because people are given a lot of propaganda in 40k so they have hope things can improve

[twin flower]

Even though they dont

[open tulip]

@dry bay

[minor narwhal]

yeah things never improve

lmao

[ionic slate]

True, true, true, I just feel like there should be both of those.

[minor narwhal]

its also that the rejects are the lucky ones

the unlucky ones are the ones they're slaughtering

[ionic slate]

Good point. But even if we don't for some gameplay reason, we absolutely should die instantly in the first mission

[jovial ridge]

listen

whoops

[twin flower]

Isnt it lowkey mentioned as well that rejects like die often, I think there was a dialogue about it in the morningstart with Bramhs and Morrow

[upbeat isle]

They’re also a grab bag of mental disorders, so… that probably helps.

[jovial ridge]

that was not meant as a ping

[twin flower]

I could be mistaken

[minor narwhal]

most do die in their first mission

we just happen to play some of the most skilled/lucky rejects

[twin flower]

Just wondering where they keep getting more rejects from if lore wise they lose rejects a lot

[crystal crane]

Ogryn is the non vegan Ork

[ionic slate]

I would have liked to see more of that outside from the 3 or so personalities that are fully based on it

[jovial ridge]

listen
with the psyker able to explode and come back, and the seers beloved. I think tzeench, and prolly a bit of korne, is assisting the rejects just a widdle. teaming up a bit against nurgle

[acoustic pebble]

Ogryns are more fit Ogres

[hexed vigil]

prison ships, gangers, IG dropouts

[minor narwhal]

by this point i believe seer just has everyone in their head speaking all the time like the emperor and the chaos gods

[hallow grotto]

Anybody want to join our game? We're using the new class

[elder oasis]

Figured it out, GW likes to give the vanguard unit the rad rule

[hexed vigil]

nah, da Emperah watches ovah us

[jovial ridge]

we are actually just in the seer's dream.

dream theory

[crystal crane]

Not that hard to find easily expendable prisoners since you can get sent to jail for saying your corpse startch taste funny

[ionic slate]

wet*

[minor narwhal]

dream theory makes sense in the context of it being a gam kinda

[elder oasis]

And you are just in my dream

[jovial ridge]

[upbeat isle]

Love that the seers madness borders on meta-awareness.

[twin flower]

Hmm, I guess so. I was just under the assumption we were like just way out of reach for any help to reach the morningstar

[jovial ridge]

by the five!

[crystal crane]

I would pay good money for a proper Ogre build

[ionic slate]

what most ppl have believed for millenias tbh

[twin flower]

I guess they get the prisoners from surrounding planets? is my head canon

[upbeat isle]

The dream = the game. “I’m certain I’ve done all this before!” Because he has.

[minor narwhal]

i mean theres dialogue from seer mentioning htey hear horde music and from loner that they see the subtitles

[jovial ridge]

isnt that also the seer?

[crystal crane]

The seer and the loner both sit on the line of knowing they are not real and in a game

[minor narwhal]

nope loner's foreshortened lifespan dialogue

[jovial ridge]

OH!

right that one

god i love that one

[elder oasis]

I like loner

[ionic slate]

that also adds to my point of it softening the grimdark imo

[primal wigeon]

NGL: it feels the delay to “build up hype” makes me feel it’s going to be a class few people will be truly excited about

Such as a ganger.

[minor narwhal]

darktides humor just makes it work out so well though

cause 40k can be pretty silly

[tacit geode]

but they didn't do it for that

[minor narwhal]

everyones super excited for the hive ganger

[ionic slate]

not saying it's all bad, just I like to have that absolutely burned dark as the abyss black crust on my steaks basically

[crystal crane]

40k has kinda only ever been grimdark in lore or books. Most of the games seem to be pretty goofy

[primal wigeon]

That’s also what they said too

[elder oasis]

I think they are reading into it, not claiming its what they said

[ionic slate]

my gangers rise up

[elder oasis]

I like gangers

[ionic slate]

no one thinks its a bit sad ?

[elder merlin]

Holy shit, its that one guy, Karn the betrayer

[primal wigeon]

They said a few things such as “Something that upset them as well.” Alongside “We want to make a better first impression and make hype more.”

[elder oasis]

Karn be betraying

[crystal crane]

You have no proof!

[ionic slate]

13% of the gangers

[elder merlin]

He's even red like him

Must be the guy

[primal wigeon]

Personally I can’t see a hive ganger be that interesting and I feel more people are excited for an Admech character

[elder merlin]

I hear he worships some guy called "Corn"

[formal mortar]

Karn betrays but Korn remains

[crystal crane]

That is every Khorne worshiper!

[primal wigeon]

I hear he needs milk for the flakes of corn

[formal mortar]

Beware of the children of the corn

[ancient violet]

Humor is a coping mechanism

It also doesn't help that the majority of the Imperium is dulled and indoctrinated by the horrors they commit or see

[elder oasis]

And he is really into human anatomy or smth

[fair bridge]

children of the korn and it's millennials that still wear cargo shorts and crappy tshirts

[elder oasis]

Karn eats khorne flakes for breakfast

[elder merlin]

A likely story

[primal wigeon]

Kinda late into this but:

From what we can tell of the character creation

Most aren’t, most come from different upbringings and are rejects for different reasons such as false reports or pissing off the wrong person

[elder oasis]

Wait

We are all red

[ancient violet]

Space Marine dialog bores me to tears tbh

But it makes sense since they are supposed to show no emotions

[elder oasis]

Are we a corn cult

[crystal crane]

Like the Imperium isn't? Got almost as many skulls and a guy who is also stuck on his chair of pain

[ancient violet]

Yes 😈

[primal wigeon]

I think one of the books summed it up as “Human lives are worth less then the machines around them.”

[elder oasis]

I said he has a hobby, i didnt say it wasnt a common hobby

[primal wigeon]

Could be wrong

[ionic slate]

I get that but the horrors that you commit and see do make you darker in how you speak and see the world sometimes. Like consciously and unapologetically evil. THey don't just make you happy go lucky or dulled, especially for willful types which we absolutely are

[elder oasis]

Sometimes humans become the machines around them

[primal wigeon]

Sometimes willingly, other times… not so willingly

[crystal crane]

Humans break in different ways under pressure. Each personality shows that pretty well

[elder oasis]

If you dont want to be a servitor, why are you made up of servitor material

[primal wigeon]

Imagine being the poor bastard who is more or less a keypad for a door

[ancient violet]

Have you seen Starship troopers?

Or JoJo rabbit?

[elder oasis]

Is that a jojo reference (dont kill me its a meme)

[ancient violet]

[primal wigeon]

Sounds very tech priest of you.

[ionic slate]

Starship troopers is a mockery of the OG book and pretty effing goofy

[ancient violet]

Yeah but did you get what it's supposed to be?

[upbeat isle]

That’s … a take.

[crystal crane]

Sometimes the only way to not go insane is to just laugh it off as the loose cannon says

[ancient violet]

Oh wait did you just say the original book is good? 💀

[primal wigeon]

What is more funny is there is a section of the Admech which want not to change their bodies with machines but instead to MAKE their bodies a living machine. As in their normal body

[ancient violet]

That's another block on my list from this server smh my head 😔

[ionic slate]

wdym ? nazi / US allegory ?

[neon agate]

Yo has it been going better?

[elder oasis]

Funny enough the admech have permission to just show up in lower class areas of hive cities and grab citizens as slaves to work their ships. This is due to their ships being deathtraps to work on, especially near any major powersource for the ship. So they need a lot of bodies to make long trips

[crystal crane]

What is wrong with the book?

[primal wigeon]

The Gigachads of tech priests. The gym bros perhaps

[ancient violet]

It's supposed to show how the Nazis saw the war from their own perspective

[elder oasis]

Actually that isnt funny, idk why i said it was funny

[upbeat isle]

Haven’t had a chance to play yet. Gonna sit down shortly and dive in 🙂

[ionic slate]

Lmao, I almost asked a question earlier but wanted help before getting banned

[neon agate]

Good luck man. I hope you enjoy. We need more darktiders

[ionic slate]

It's a funny allegory tho, its not that serious. Yes, people find reasons to act and believe how they do, but it's not as surface level as that

[ancient violet]

Yes it is 💀

[elder oasis]

Also alot of the comedy of smth like starship trooper is the ridiculousness of cheery propaganda for such a dark purpose. The contrast is important i think

[crystal crane]

Aren't most ships big enough to have a massive city worth of people?

[ancient violet]

You are surprised how full of shit people can get when they think they are fully justified

[upbeat isle]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[crystal crane]

Since when? I have never heard people say that about the book, made fun of the movie for it though

[ancient violet]

The movie not the book

The book is straight up made by a bloodthirsty gr*no who wanted to genocide all Koreans

[ionic slate]

As much as I like other Verhoeven movies, this one is kind of boring even if somehow iconic. Did you read the OG book or saw people explaining it ? Do you understand that war and violence are sometimes necessary and that is what makes 40k deep and interesting

[elder oasis]

I wouldnt say most ships, but yeah many ships are quite large. However i imagine numerically speaking a lot of ships in 40k are boring things like the smaller cargo ships snd stuff rather then the super cool battle ships we see in books

[ancient violet]

Nah this guy is too deep into podcasts 💀

[tidal gyro]

🪸 there is coral emoji

[crystal crane]

I just like funny space bug war

[tidal gyro]

this is cool

[lethal solstice]

None of the violence in 40k is necessary besides the fight against chaos and the nids, and one of which wouldn't have happened if humanity was less violent

[ionic slate]

Who are you talking to lmao ?

[ancient violet]

Lmao genocide is justified if we are the ones doing it 😤

[next iris]

yeah, hug it out with drukhari

[lethal solstice]

Oh right them

Forgor

[ionic slate]

Now it isn't yes, but there is a reason why it slipped into mainstream culture in the setting. Nids and Chaos arent specially laughing matter either

[next iris]

necrons waking up and murderizing everyone also totally fine

[crystal crane]

I hope we get a boarding party mission one day

[next iris]

you can just talk it out with all of them

[primal wigeon]

Ehhh not really? From what I know depending on which your talking of its a view on a run away military complex mixed with Why all forms of fascism is bad

[crystal crane]

Also Orks

[ionic slate]

exactly

[elder oasis]

Chaos predates humans tbf

[fleet igloo]

40k is and isn't deep. It can be deep, but the premise and purpose for its existence isn't

[primal wigeon]

Depends on the necron

[ancient violet]

The director literally said this himself

[elder oasis]

But yeah chaos would be less of an issue if the crusade didnt give them half of the imperiums troops tbf

[upbeat isle]

The book espouses Heinlein’s militaristic philosophy, glorifying the military (and particularly the infantry).

The film is basically a satire of the book, or at least Heinlein’s ideology.

Both are “good” at what they aim to do.

[misty trench]

just get the necrons into being museum curators, works well for the most iconic one

[shy sandal]

Have a reasonable discussion with the Orks, i'm sure they will hear you out

[next iris]

just invent blood bowl

[tired inlet]

With the Beast? They did

[primal wigeon]

Huh. Interesting. I guess it makes sense I just saw a different anti war meaning

[fleet igloo]

Totalitarian theocracies are inherently evil and bad at being governments. Standing naked in rain makes you wet.

[tired inlet]

but the imperium made like a thousand psykers brain burst the BEast

[formal mortar]

Necrons are the one faction I have trouble playing in DoW

[ancient violet]

Yeah it is anti war, it shows how ridiculous it is to justify it 💀

[elder oasis]

Commissar.... this comment right here XD

[ancient violet]

It's a parody

[primal wigeon]

To be fair chaos grows power from worship

[crystal crane]

Didn't the high lords go crazy cause an Ork actually came down and talked non Orky to them?

[primal wigeon]

Oh yeah no most people don’t really get that starship troops os a parody

[elder oasis]

Yes, but some important parts of chaos were strengthened due to other races is what i mean

[little marten]

ork believe smart ork become smart

[primal wigeon]

Ahhhh I see

[primal wigeon]

Orks together become smart

[shy sandal]

It would be less of an issue if the Elves tucked it in their pants