general-chat

[twin flower]

or I havent witnessed it properly

[jaunty path]

Can we have wall hacks on trapper

[rare pulsar]

Yes they do

[jaunty path]

Like

[untold skiff]

Ok but if they couldn't they would be a non threat in havoc.

[jaunty path]

Specifically trapper

So I can cancel their existence ON SIGHT?

[rare pulsar]

Ehh

All they had to do is have line of sight

Thats all i ask

I thinkbthats doable honestly

[jaunty path]

All the mods I have installed should be in game

Including nude rejects

[astral basin]

Im the type to never get shot by a sniper
But always get clubbed bc im staring into the back looking for snipers

[twin flower]

Be fair I got trapped into a flamer line of sight once

like holy shit, couldnt have set it up any better

[untold skiff]

I just don't want to get shot through walls and pillars etc.

[lucid yoke]

trappers should be dangerous

[untold skiff]

It's like 10x more bs

[lucid yoke]

i did

i asked

[jaunty path]

No they shouldn't

[rare pulsar]

Oh sry

That was for missus

[jaunty path]

They should be easier to die immediately

[rare pulsar]

Ok but who asked?

[twin flower]

Arent they already tho

[lucid yoke]

i asked that too

[jaunty path]

The voices

[untold skiff]

All enemies should just be pox walkers

[jaunty path]

Trve

Then we can have rot poxwalkwers

[untold skiff]

And they should be double as slow and deal half damage

[twin flower]

imagine if you can stack their dead bodies on top each other if that were so

[arctic shoal]

No, it's all ogryn now
Replace all enemies with Bulwarks, crushers and reapers

[jaunty path]

Current event:

I can play without spidey sense but I will miss it

[untold skiff]

H40 is just a flame psyker and 3 tauntgryns

[arctic shoal]

Use cackling trapper instead, can't hear anything but a tleast the trappers are loud

[untold skiff]

Or insta lose

[twin flower]

New modifiers that bad?

[rare pulsar]

Do what u want ill only judge u hard if you do something wrong

[blissful kiln]

@Wаrdens Rewdy replacement is being NSFW, smh

[twin flower]

lmao

[arctic shoal]

I thought they were a Darcy replacement

Darcy hasn't been mentioned in 2 weeks, it was about time

[blissful kiln]

who

[jaunty path]

Can I add a new enemy to the game

[blissful kiln]

must be some ancient hero of old, I am not familiar with the legend

[arctic shoal]

The VETERAN

[twin flower]

is it furries

[rare pulsar]

Only if its not horny

[jaunty path]

Damn.

Hm

[arctic shoal]

Only if it eats rashons

[rare pulsar]

I think we all do that

[untold skiff]

Beastmen from vermintide 2 is now a enemy faction in darktide

You are all welcome

[jaunty path]

A rot robot

That makes

[untold skiff]

Bestigores for all.

[jaunty path]

Fart noises

[rare pulsar]

Ok thats enough

[twin flower]

how does a robot make fart noises tho

[jaunty path]

What's wrong

[blissful kiln]

Minotaur with Havoc modifiers

[jaunty path]

Do you not hear cars

[rare pulsar]

You are quite something

[twin flower]

what kind of cars do you have where you live lmao

[nimble glade]

I should sleep but I don't know if I want too.. or can.

Sleep insomnia

[jaunty path]

I love huffing car exhaust

[untold skiff]

It's all about buying the car with the smelliest farts

[nimble glade]

Hella late

[jaunty path]

It makes me so smart

[twin flower]

need weed?

[nimble glade]

[rare pulsar]

Whenever i feel degenerate ill just jop into darktide discord and look wjat missus wrote and ill feel better

[untold skiff]

Those heavy metal particles do wonders.

[twin flower]

lmao

let her cook

[jaunty path]

Why would the inquisition care about what car pipe I sniff

I can be trusted around leman russ's.

[twin flower]

an STC car pipe maybe

[nimble glade]

[untold skiff]

If you take everything I type literally you would think I was deranged

[jaunty path]

There is no law against inhaling fumes

[rare pulsar]

Sad but true

[jaunty path]

Yeah same imagine if everyone here took what I said seriously

I'm gay

[untold skiff]

Fax

[nimble glade]

I think a red bull is good enough.

[jaunty path]

Fuck

A redbull sounds good

But

Should not

I'm already on adderall

[twin flower]

🍻

[jaunty path]

Don't need anymore stimulants

[rare pulsar]

No?how will a redbull help you sleep?

[nimble glade]

You aren't?

[jaunty path]

What I need is water honestly

[nimble glade]

Dark times we're in

[untold skiff]

That's besides the point.

[jaunty path]

I'm not deranged, am I?

[untold skiff]

[rare pulsar]

Ur asking the wrong people

[jaunty path]

I've said only regular. Human things.

[nimble glade]

Just a few more

[twin flower]

Yeah.. like farting robots

[nimble glade]

Then crash out

[untold skiff]

If you saw me play zealot or void blast psyker you'd think I was on every stimulant under the sun.

[jaunty path]

Veteran is a stimulant

[nimble glade]

Or tea

[jaunty path]

I love shutting down carpace hordes

[nimble glade]

Or medicine

Sleep medicine

[jaunty path]

VOC is so good

[rare pulsar]

I love shutting down my frontal lobe

[twin flower]

Sheesh

[jaunty path]

Executioners stance doesn't hold a candle to it imo. Then again

[twin flower]

You think people remember if they pass out or not

[jaunty path]

I could also just suck dick at the game!

[rare pulsar]

Exe stance is better now then voc

Ill fight you

[jaunty path]

Oh yeah did you know rum loses its potency over time if improperly sealed

[untold skiff]

Darktide is all about playing a playstyle that 99% of the population simply don't have the hand/eye coordination to pull off. Just because you can.

[rare pulsar]

No i did not

[twin flower]

doesnt that apply to most alcohols

[jaunty path]

Caves your skull in

[untold skiff]

And then being accused of taking Adderall

[rare pulsar]

Jokes on you its empty

[jaunty path]

I really cannot feel the 40% alc

[nimble glade]

Have y'all ever considered reading all the Warhammer 40k lore and stopped midway and thought to yourself "Emperor not need me to think, I just wanna play game"?

[fallen tree]

this is the worst part, what happened to game sense and practice 😔

[jaunty path]

I'd get more tipsy on wine than this

But

I'm happy that it is the way it is

[untold skiff]

Who needs game sense when your positioning etc are all muscle memory.

[twin flower]

high tolerance huh

[fallen tree]

personally, i would describe that as gamesense, but yes

[twin flower]

Darktide lore?

[nimble glade]

I think I know the basics of the lore but nothing deep, probably know as much as an indoctrinated guard injected with lots of propaganda knows about stuff in-game or in universe I should say. Lol

[jaunty path]

No I mean like this rum lost a lot of its potency lmfao

[twin flower]

wasted it. wasted!

[rare pulsar]

Warhammer lore is very inconsistent anyway

[jaunty path]

Just know the Imperium is objectively good no matter what

Don't think about it

Don't

[rare pulsar]

Damn right

[jaunty path]

Think.

[nimble glade]

True, we're the bad guys, they're the bad guys. Kill everything and everyone. There is only WAR.

Simple as

[untold skiff]

The most fun I have in darktide is being corrupted down to 2 hp on zealot all alone with 9 billion specials and elites on my screen.

[rare pulsar]

No we are definetly the good guys

[untold skiff]

Nothing beats the feeling of overcoming that.

[jaunty path]

Don't think about the fact you'll get charged as a criminal for even saying the corpse starch tastes weird

[rare pulsar]

I mean thats a highly offensive statement

[jaunty path]

(Ground up humans)

[rare pulsar]

I think serving in a penal lwgion is justified

[twin flower]

I dont think corpse starch being weird would be the fist thing they'll think about

[jaunty path]

They should cuz making even a face to its taste will get you thrown out

[fallen tree]

yeah, the third arm growing on my back is more of a concern to me tbh

[nimble glade]

I know Darktide lore like the back of my hand, but everything else.. vaguely..

Kind of immersive though IMHO

Warhammer 40k does have interesting and some funny lore moments.

[polar quiver]

#vox-lfg-apac message anyone want to help me with Malleus Monstrnum

[nimble glade]

Mutant?

Or abhuman?

[fallen tree]

i prefer the term gifted

[nimble glade]

Psyker, with rare medical condition. Gotcha. You shall be spared then.

I think..

Auto correct got me thinking about skaven again

Can't escape em

[fallen tree]

o yea psykers are gifted.. i think im just tainted

[nimble glade]

Vermintide PTSD

[nimble glade]

Tainted with wholesomeness

[fallen tree]

[nimble glade]

I think..

Perhaps

Maybe

Yes?

Yes.

I think

[fallen tree]

if u stop thinking i think it will be okay

i think

[nimble glade]

Not sure, I'll have to think on that.

Hmm.. let me think

40,000 years later

Still thinking

Might take some time if I had to be honest. Let me think on this.

[fallen tree]

i got plenty of time

[nimble glade]

Oh wait I just now seen your NSFW tag 💀

[fallen tree]

booba artist

i really am a mutant

[nimble glade]

Okay, you live.

[fallen tree]

[nimble glade]

Holsters bolter

[primal tartan]

brain implant tingling sah

[nimble glade]

That means it's working, behemoth.

[astral basin]

Psyker index: elevated
Commissar, this one for the tithes.

[fallen tree]

shit

its just the smokable green herb i swear

[astral basin]

Rejoice. You have the honor of beholding the emperors glorious visage before your end.

Now now this isnt resident evil

[fallen tree]

clever

[astral basin]

My working theory
Umbrella is a hallucinogenic company

All those green plants you shove in your face suspiciously placed everywhere?

Laced af

[fallen tree]

it is interesting that that is a form of healing in the series

spin it with some red kush, even stronger

[round mica]

I wrote an email to fatshark requesting to implement a feature for paid skins of ammo box

[fallen tree]

lmao. should also try and get paid reskins of levels/maps at this rate

rolling steel operation, but instead of tertium its thru the warp

[astral basin]

Dude. Imma throttle you

[polar quiver]

nvm I got it with a rando I found on the mourningstar :D

[fallen tree]

the same way heretics are throttling the train thru tertium? 😏

[astral basin]

whats the point of beautifying something thats on screen for not even 10s

its like

Cod mobile putting skins on grenades level of scumminess

At least you see the stims

[fallen tree]

yeah that is egregious, the cosmetic skin market is out of hand now

[blissful kiln]

blizzard are doing premium currency for their housing system

in a 60$\expansion + 15$\month mmo

xdd

[fallen tree]

yeah that is absurd, as a classic player, i mourn WoW

sry, vanilla*

and here my dumb ass was thinking id resub, beacuse i like Quel'thalas

[blissful kiln]

well I think a sub itself is decent value, because you get all the classic servers and remix\timed events

and i guess you can do old zones questing or whatever if that's your fancy

but the whole deal with expansion + sub + mtx? bullshit

[fallen tree]

you're right, but i dont like retail. i would play classic but i could just play factorio and not sub to anything

[rare pulsar]

Gotta milk that cow while its still alive

Thats how they all think

[blissful kiln]

yeah, and it works

[rare pulsar]

Indeed thats the worst thing about it

The recent lotr stuff really upset me deeply

[fallen tree]

RIP warcraft. played it since the first RTS. how it has fallen 😭

[blissful kiln]

it's all corporate greed and numbers must go up

[rare pulsar]

I think if tolkien saw that shit hed cry

[blissful kiln]

realistically, they could milk diablo immortal or something and use the money they get from scrubs to make an actual game accessible and good

but that's not how publicly traded companies work

everything has to bring increased profits

[fallen tree]

diablo.. 😭

[blissful kiln]

[rare pulsar]

Shhhhh its allready dead

[fallen tree]

i mourn

[blissful kiln]

diablo is...

immortal

[rare pulsar]

[blissful kiln]

[fallen tree]

grrr

i still have my oldschool discs, it shall be immortal

send it to space

[rare pulsar]

Ahhhhh discs

[fallen tree]

do PCs even come with disc drives now?

[rare pulsar]

No lol

My newest laptop didnt have one

[fallen tree]

i woulda thought itd be on a laptop at least. dayum

[rare pulsar]

Nope

Tbh why even bother?

[fallen tree]

usb now ig

[rare pulsar]

You can stream everything you want for free

On the internet

EVERYTHING

I dont even have to pay

Its only a matter of finding a stream

I havent been in a cinema in ages

[fallen tree]

true

ive only been in cinema to watch things i really enjoy beforehand, or with my brothers because they're movie buffs

been maybe once in 5 years, and that last time was only a few weeks ago

i miss fresh popcorn tho

[rare pulsar]

My last movie was star wars episode 9 i think

I fell asleep

[fallen tree]

im sorry for ur loss

[rare pulsar]

That was a fever dream tbh

[fallen tree]

why does everything good have to suck, RIP starwars

[astral basin]

Shhhhh we can’t legally condone piracy

[rare pulsar]

I dont wanna

Im a pirate at heart yarrr

[fallen tree]

ive been a piRAT since like, TES oblivion days way back

idr the year anymore

[rare pulsar]

Damn ur ancient

[fallen tree]

is 32 ancient? fugg

[astral basin]

Looks like a rat. Smells like a rat
Checks out

[rare pulsar]

Sry i gotta vent all my coworkers are younger and call me an old man

[fallen tree]

ahah yeah, the internet has warped time for me

[rare pulsar]

Im turning 28 next year

I feel my body falling apart any moment now

[fallen tree]

you know

[little marten]

Bye

[fallen tree]

i got shat on for complaining about back pain, because i was too young

but i was like 30

fuck you anyone can have back pain, bozo

[astral basin]

Ng

Tf u mean by bye

By

[rare pulsar]

Oh man i had coworkers as a carpenter who allready had a ruined back at age 25

Pretty normal tbh

[fallen tree]

honestly, age gatekeepers

🙄

[rare pulsar]

Hell ive got backpain

And handpain and fingers

[fallen tree]

oh shid u got that carpal/ulnar pain

[astral basin]

Arthritis

[rare pulsar]

Frfr

Thats why im no longer carpenter

Cause it only ruins ur body

And pays not very good

[fallen tree]

yeah i had to wear wrist braces, wrist compresses for years, from overworking wrists

ulnar nerve on the elbow

its so awful

[rare pulsar]

Yeah and all the old guys want u to donit like they did and die with 60

Like hell no?!?

[little marten]

I meant bye

[rare pulsar]

Why tf would i die at work

[little marten]

To the chap who is falling apart

[fallen tree]

the old guys didnt sit down and game like we did, they dont get it

i think wrist problems are gonna get worse

[astral basin]

Ah

[fallen tree]

even scrolling a phone can lead to rsi

[rare pulsar]

We are all gonna get robot hands arent we?

[little marten]

Wait wtf

Shields are not a separate hp bar in arc

[fallen tree]

ill miss my hands, but yeah, i want cybernetic gorilla arms

big punches

[rare pulsar]

Im not honna miss em if i get gorilla arms tbh

Ill gladly become a cyborg

[fallen tree]

mantis looks better, i like the wire cybernetic, but gorilla arms just seem most practical

[rare pulsar]

As long as i can keep my dihh

[little marten]

You’re gonna get spoon augments not gorilla arms soz

[fallen tree]

youve seen inspector gadget right? the spoon augment is in my pointer finger

[blissful kiln]

cyberdihh

[fallen tree]

knife, middle finger. fork, left pointer

[little marten]

I have but no it’ll be one big spoon, a ladle if you will

[arctic escarp]

cyberclih..

[rare pulsar]

Sounds ok

[fallen tree]

i mean.. a big bowl of soup calls for a big spoon...

[little marten]

Souperpsycho

[fallen tree]

we cant talk about cyberpuhh right now im gonna go cyberpsycho

[little marten]

Does it have a homing beacon

[rare pulsar]

Only a landing strip

[little marten]

😔

[fallen tree]

reddit, give him gold

(i dont use reddit)

[rare pulsar]

Healthy choice

[fallen tree]

y'all funny

[astral basin]

Huh?
Seems to me like it works like dt tbh

[little marten]

It mitigates apparently

If that’s how DT shields work then fair enough

I’m not a shield scientist

[astral basin]

Like. Arc shields cut out ballistics
But. Fire. Falling. Melee (ticks not sure about pick). They dont

Well

Fire is kinda split

Maybe explosions too?

Yeah fire is split favouring the shield

Oh god i britished that word wtf

Welp. Time to see if i can manually set a zip to the top of dam control tower

[rocky radish]

I finally completed the Untouchable penance. And it was with bots

[fallen tree]

i rmbr asking about arc like a week ago, idr what i asked, but is it fine to play solo only?

[astral basin]

Definitely

If anything solo is more chill

[fading otter]

It’s honestly better to play solo lol

[fallen tree]

is it like, solo only lobbies?

[fading otter]

Yep

And everyone is incredibly friendly, just trying to get their own shit done most of the time

[fallen tree]

oh okay thats sick, see i didnt play any other extraction shooter so irdk

[astral basin]

If you are in a you will be in party heaven. Otherwise, keep your gun ready.

[fallen tree]

ive seen that on tiktok, i rly like that

[astral basin]

North America*

[fallen tree]

im Aus 😛

wild west i bet

[astral basin]

In spaceport, I’ve had at least one in 10 randoms shoot me out of nowhere. Versus at dam and buried it’s more like… one in a few of dozen.

But. NA

Who tf been in my home the seats up

I almost fell in

[elder merlin]

[elder merlin]

Really? Weird, i rarely ever get shot at in any location

Unless its night time

Night time changes the rules

[astral basin]

I see a lot of extract camping at spaceport

I try to wait until last 10m and join the crowd rushing for elevator

Had a guy with a lightning get tap out my shields and health with a single shot
Threw a lure grenade at him bc there was a leaper patrolling the ele

[modern bobcat]

Is game good now?

[astral basin]

Tides games are good for what they are. Up to you

[elder merlin]

3 days til beastman class reveal

[split mauve]

gameplay is and has always been good, updates are slow, liveservice stuff is crap

[elder merlin]

[modern bobcat]

why have you changed your avi

[astral basin]

Remember folk. We stop getting support in 2027

Pauls been whatever tf that is for the last 3 months i think

[elder merlin]

My what?

[elder merlin]

Really? Damn

They really do hate darktide, huh

[astral basin]

Im on series s
I dont get support for any reason

[modern bobcat]

your avatar

[elder merlin]

Wait, do you mean support for darktide or xbox?

[elder merlin]

Who even are you

[split mauve]

for darktide

[astral basin]

“What do you MEAN theres two sets of xbox specs???? Who tf marketed this shit??”

[elder merlin]

Cant tell if you're fuckin with me

[split mauve]

series S is the garbo one right?

[astral basin]

Pretty much

[split mauve]

yeah i can't imagine buying that

[astral basin]

Used to it was digital S vs hardware X
Then the hardware just. Went digital
Real shafting times that was

It was $300 tho and i was broke

[elder merlin]

How long has vermintide 2 been around?

[split mauve]

2018

[ocean widget]

500 years

But yeah since March 2018

[elder merlin]

So 7 years and still got support and shit

When did darktide come out on pc?

[ocean widget]

November 2022

[elder merlin]

Hmmm, so 2 years less support than vermintide 2

Think they'll make a darktide 2?

[split mauve]

dunno, they have been pretty anemic with darktide

[wooden creek]

They're going to make Darktide 2.0.77

[modest flume]

@tall grove I'll try and catch you later today

[elder merlin]

Poor fatshark, perhaps one day they'll be put out of their misery

[thick coyote]

In 2077 what makes someone a reject?

Getting caught

[modern bobcat]

@amber delta Is Loner gone?

[thick coyote]

Hyper starts playing in the background

[fallen tree]

maybe one day GW will die and be public domain... who am i kidding, the warp will never disappear

[astral basin]

The entire One Build on zealot is gone

[ocean widget]

Yes

If you complain we get the legal right to shoot you

[thick coyote]

Actually it's more like

[dapper trench]

still streaming R2?

[ocean widget]

Yup

[split mauve]

trees have been reworked for everyone that was still missing a rework

loner has been found dead in a ditch

[rare pulsar]

His injuries where not service related

[ocean widget]

Along with all the fuckers who complained about loner being removed

[split mauve]

loner was always the node i had to take because of pathing more than anything

[rare pulsar]

I have some bad memories about loners

[ocean widget]

Ew, stealth zealot

[rare pulsar]

Especially in havoc

[amber delta]

[rare pulsar]

Theres was this one guy who insisted to speedrun the level only to waste all my attempts and then he left

I was begging him on my knees to switch to book or literally anything else

[elder merlin]

Good, my only regret is their deaths werent livestreamed

[split mauve]

i still haven't had a negative experience with the people online in darktide

at least personality wise

[rare pulsar]

You mustve had a lobotomy

[split mauve]

people don't usually open chat and be negative

[tacit geode]

The people playing it are normal enough

Or the RP

[rare pulsar]

Idk i had some very toxic people more then once

But i guess exceptions prove the norm

Lets just say my blocklist is full

[hasty sky]

mine isn't but I've experienced a fair few cases of flaming and straight up meltdowns

[modern bobcat]

what is your purpose in life now

[hasty sky]

but besides the extremely sad and funny unhinged rant by this one guy about me supporting and promoting anti teamplay behavior the "worst" thing anyone ever told me was "[character name] pla uitall" so lol

[lyric badger]

I suppose anyone can have their block list full if a slight inconvenience poses as being toxic.

[vagrant burrow]

Reclaimator would make sense as the next class

[rare pulsar]

No like nonstop flaming in chat

With nothing to back it up

[astral basin]

Omfg i had to play ring around with a leaper for a whole minute

Or more

[fallen tree]

yeah.. playing since release. there are fucking awful players. the majority who play frequently arent that from my experience. im also playing on the least played region i bet

[lyric badger]

And you've had multiple instances of this?

[amber delta]

enjoy the game

[fallen tree]

awfully toxic**

[blissful kiln]

that's me

[rare pulsar]

I mean i do have over 1000 hrs by now

But yeah

[lyric badger]

Ive been playing the game since release too- only like 2 people who were like that and I just "womp womp"ed em

[modern bobcat]

maybe i shouldn't have abandoned the game to play another 1500 hours of paradox

[rare pulsar]

They werent even toxic to me

[fallen tree]

good for you ig

[rare pulsar]

Just my teammates

And i dont like that

So i block em so i dont match woth them again thats it

[hasty sky]

Most of my blocklist is griefers

[lyric badger]

We have about the same hours

[rare pulsar]

Maybe you just dont see it the same way i do

[hasty sky]

and one guy who'd squeak out slurs on voice chat whenever he wasn't being revived (he played ogryn)

[elder merlin]

[lyric badger]

I mean, I don't since I think I'd block someone who is yelling at me rather than someone else. I don't make other people's beef my own

[rare pulsar]

Ik i just wanna avoid the same issue again

[hasty sky]

Imagine being both bad at the game and toxic

like pick a struggle lma

[rare pulsar]

Cause that usually pulls down the team as a whole

[fallen tree]

thats good for ur own health. but theyre toxic nonetheless.

[hasty sky]

with that being said I also don't really remember most of the people on my blocklist so I'm tempted to just empty it

[dapper trench]

ight

[rare pulsar]

Same

[hasty sky]

most of my blocks were from over half a year ago when I was still pretty new to the game

[lyric badger]

It'd be much easier and simpler to report the person than to block at that point imo

[rare pulsar]

Reporting doesnt work i think

[lyric badger]

Real? That's stupid

[fallen tree]

i report bots in wow. they're still around. reporting doesnt work. block is always the way

[rare pulsar]

I mean im pretty sure lol

[fallen tree]

the amount of ppl managing repots is mininmal, in most games

[hasty sky]

Always work off the assumption reporting does nothing

[rare pulsar]

I dont think they will do anything at all

[fallen tree]

if at all

[rare pulsar]

I mean i did report people but what are they gonna do?

[hasty sky]

^ always assume the reports department is swamped with bs at all times

[rare pulsar]

They dont record anything

[rare pulsar]

And this yeah

[fallen tree]

ik, been playing online 20 years 😉

personally, blizzard sucks ass

[hasty sky]

It's always worth repeating

[rare pulsar]

My worst griefing experience was playing foxhole

[hasty sky]

So the future generations get appraised of the bullshit

[fallen tree]

agreed,

[hasty sky]

bro same I fucking hate that game sm

[dapper trench]

@ocean widget alright ready

[fallen tree]

foxhole looks so fun, is it really that bad?

[ocean widget]

Sick, gonna be like 15 minutes cus im up the shop

[rare pulsar]

Foxhole fun Clanman bad

[fallen tree]

of course...

orz

[valid hemlock]

It is a pretty hard from the looks of it

[hasty sky]

I'd recommend foxhole only if you enjoy the Real War™ experience

[valid hemlock]

and I have seen pretty insane stuff about the game xd

[rare pulsar]

Clans really ruin the game

[hasty sky]

that being 95% tedium 5% actual fun fighting

[rare pulsar]

They gatekeep like crazy

[fallen tree]

so ive heard

[hasty sky]

it was pretty bad pre clan bloatening too

[rare pulsar]

And they can actually report u en masse and get u banned

[astral basin]

Clem

[rare pulsar]

And theres nothing u can do

[modest flume]

Grakata?

[valid hemlock]

very unfair

[fallen tree]

ridiculous

[rare pulsar]

Yup

[blissful kiln]

so just like most mmos

[fallen tree]

imagine having fun 😏

[astral basin]

Clem. Grakata.

[rare pulsar]

Sadly yeah

[valid hemlock]

imagine

[modest flume]

[rare pulsar]

Foxhole was very fun for a while dont get me wrong

But the griefers and alt account

Jesus christ its bad

[hasty sky]

I'd argue the game's core gameplay loop also just shoots it in the foot

[rare pulsar]

That too

Too much grind

[fallen tree]

sounds like it needs government id to play 😏

[hasty sky]

You can do a variety of tasks which can be divided into combat and logistics

[rare pulsar]

That wears u out over time

[hasty sky]

everyone wants to do combat, nobody wants to do logistics

[valid hemlock]

and than everything falls apart lol

[ocean widget]

No it just requires severe autism if you want to spend over an hour playing

[rare pulsar]

People were actually getting war fatigue

[fallen tree]

check and check

[hasty sky]

so what happens is when something fresh happens like a new war starting most players log on at that point, until they exhaust pre-placed map supplies, then they quit the game for several weeks or months

[fallen tree]

seems like Arma is still better suited for that content, depending on server

[hasty sky]

imagine Battlefield's respawn tickets system except you have to spend time and effort grinding out resources and crafting extra tickets

[rare pulsar]

No foxhole was actually very realistic

Theres nothing else like it

That makes u actually build a logistic

[fallen tree]

i mean ive seen it, thats why i was interested and wanted to play. i just assume OCE servers dont exist the way ive seen in vids

[rare pulsar]

They do theres only 1 server rn

[fallen tree]

thats my main drawback, but i dont do research

[ocean widget]

With a more competent community foxhole would be an enjoyable game

[fallen tree]

id be logi, i just know it

[rare pulsar]

Logi is very fun

[rare pulsar]

If u actually enjoy that type of gameplay find a clan and go for it

U dont ever have to fight at all if you dont want to

Prolly the best side of the game

[fallen tree]

i mean id enjoy both, but spending money on MP games here feels like a waste

especially when i have factorio...

[rare pulsar]

Just keep in mind its a grind

Like u cant just go offline for 5 days

[split mauve]

sounds like an unpaid job

[rare pulsar]

Foxhole is like 20 bucks and no microtransactions

[rare pulsar]

Real

Yeah

[blissful kiln]

mmos feel like jobs pretty much

[rare pulsar]

Our clan leader was in rehab

[fallen tree]

the long war aspect is the most appealing, logging in for a bit every day

[rare pulsar]

He was on 247

[fallen tree]

but yea..

[blissful kiln]

esp if you're in a "serious" guild\clan

[fallen tree]

ff14 was okay, but yea gotta log in to get raid done

doesnt feel that great, esp if ur feeling shit

[blissful kiln]

i stop having fun in a game when that game gives me responsibilities lmao

like reponsibilities to other people

[civic otter]

Most ive ever felt like i was doing a job in a game was rust. I used to wake up like clockwork every 3 hours throughout the night to do base checkups and some maintainance farming when i was younger

[blissful kiln]

don't need that sht in a game

[rare pulsar]

Yeah foxhole not for you then

[blissful kiln]

something like darktide is ok. you do feel partially responsible for mission success and feel kinda bad if you cause the wipe

but it's per match so it's not bad

[split mauve]

it's actually everyone's fault but mine if i lose

[ocean widget]

@dapper trench aye im back

[rare pulsar]

I am gonna go back to foxhole once they add airforce tho

[fallen tree]

fair, grinding uwu raid in ff14 a few times a week with pugs to learn and then get a clear was fun. its way less comittal than any WoW raid imo

[split mauve]

foxhole is about ww2 right?

[rare pulsar]

No

[split mauve]

ww1?

[rare pulsar]

Its afictional universe

Its a mix of both

[ocean widget]

its got its own wars so its baaically just the two mixed together

[split mauve]

are there gas attacks

[ocean widget]

theres been like 50? wars so far

[fallen tree]

doesnt rust reset every few weeks? i cant imagine doing all that work for it to wipe. but i do know ppl on the other end who are obsessed

[split mauve]

depends on the server

[rare pulsar]

U start with only rifles and basic trenches and have to research tech

And all weapons and tanks etc

And slowly progress to ww2 basically

[split mauve]

also you don't have to imagine a wipe every two weeks because by playing, you'll likely wipe every few hours if anything

[rare pulsar]

And a war can last for a month

Or even longer

[split mauve]

very cool, a real shame it just takes so much time out of your life

[rare pulsar]

Very true

[ocean widget]

each wars lasted 1.1 month on average

[fallen tree]

lmao, that does make sense. i guess its less likely if its clan rust? if thats even a thing as well 😂

[civic otter]

Different servers have different wipes. However that's the idea exactly. Due to limited time, me and my team were minmaxing what time we had to be consistently on top of the server. We timed new wipes to get early advantage

[rare pulsar]

I think it couldve been done better

[ocean widget]

49 wars, 3.5 years

[rare pulsar]

Without so much tedious grind

[fallen tree]

thats crazy to me tbh. without any real progression outside of wipes, i couldnt see myself playing

[rare pulsar]

But barraging an enemy base to rubble after a week of prep is SATIFYING goddamn

[fallen tree]

i wish i could

[civic otter]

That's exactly how i am now

I don't even play any form of pvp anymore

[little marten]

Is foxhole good

[rare pulsar]

Same

[ocean widget]

get on

[rare pulsar]

Last pvp game i emjoyed was rising storm 2

[little marten]

Based

[fallen tree]

pvp has been on the decline for me too tbh. last i played was bf6. its not the same as before, but i always come back to something like factorio, that i can easily invest hundreds of hours into just perfecting base designs

[little marten]

Hell let loose guys are making a Vietnam version

[rare pulsar]

Red orchestra 2 is still my fav

[dapper trench]

was on cyber punk

[civic otter]

Mine was black ops 3, stuck to it for a very long time

[dapper trench]

quickly gonna use it

[rare pulsar]

I dont like em

[ocean widget]

sick
aye, u joinin me or me joinin u

[rare pulsar]

Too much monetization

Sry

[split mauve]

to be fair, if i played bf6 (i did), pvp would be on the decline for me too

[dapper trench]

i'll join you

[fallen tree]

such a good game

[ocean widget]

aight

[civic otter]

Yeah i get that. Game i always come back to like that is terraria

[fallen tree]

yep, another banger

[civic otter]

True terraria veterancy is becoming the wiki

[rare pulsar]

Old games just had SOUL

And love

[little marten]

PvP games are either the same tired arena shooters, or games you need to invest a year to be competitive within, or have no player count

[fallen tree]

makes me wish Starbound was actually good 😭

[civic otter]

Yeah

[rare pulsar]

Just get a few rare gems like that each year

Nowadays

[split mauve]

nah hop on fighting games

[little marten]

Sadly not a genre for me 😔

[fallen tree]

Tekken GoaT, i wish my hands worked well enough to play

[rare pulsar]

I tried getting into dragonball sz i just succ too much🥲😂

[elder merlin]

[fallen tree]

but i do like SF

[split mauve]

Tekken bad, hop on strive or blazblue central fiction

[fallen tree]

anime....

[elder merlin]

I wish we could kill pvp once and for all

[fallen tree]

nah, blazblue was tight too

[elder merlin]

Maybe someday

[little marten]

Stay away from spaceport kiddo

[fallen tree]

noel was hot

[rare pulsar]

I think pvp is good for shooters

Cause ai is usually bad or op with guns

Like no inbetween

[split mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/susanoo-susanoo-blazblue-blazblue-blazblue-central-fiction-central-fiction-gif-3203303332056027958

epic embedded fail

[fallen tree]

[rare pulsar]

GIB IMAGE PERMS

I BEG U

[little marten]

V Rising had good pvp

In the first 3 days before the sweats got everything

[rare pulsar]

Yeah v rising was cool

Didnt play the pvp tho

[fallen tree]

yeah i play V pve, was fun

just local server

[little marten]

You whether chase some as a wolf or they chase you as a wolf

[rare pulsar]

Evolution

[ocean widget]

ur mics muted @dapper trench

[amber delta]

mods are away quick post failed embeds

[rare pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[sharp hollow]

WHAT DOES THE HAVOC RANK DO

[fallen tree]

i mean i would but i gotta order pizza. instead; should i get chicken or beef

[rare pulsar]

STATUS

[sharp hollow]

THATS IT?

[fallen tree]

different modifiers, increases difficulty every 5 levels. big dick status too

[rare pulsar]

THE DRIP

[sharp hollow]

WHAT DRIP BESIDES THE BLACK 53rD SHIT

ALSO THANKS FOR ANSWERING ME GUYS <3

[drowsy lynx]

Improved the likelyhood of getting invited to higher havocs, and unlocks penance cosmetics

[fallen tree]

titles, emblem

[rare pulsar]

Cool status and portrait bling uwu

[drowsy lynx]

You also get a title and insignia from it

[sharp hollow]

well ya thoise i know but thanks :3

thank you guys

apperciates all of ya

[fallen tree]

besides that, thats it

:>

[sharp hollow]

may the god emperor bless y'all

[fallen tree]

o7

a lot more girls started texting me once i hit 35+ 🤷‍♂️

[sharp hollow]

my friend is asking if its actually harder than auric

[sharp hollow]

is this fax no fiction

[drowsy lynx]

On 25+ yes

[fallen tree]

^

[fallen tree]

no im married unfortunately, but they would!!

[rare pulsar]

This is fax

I am now married

[sharp hollow]

My beloved says thank you all!

[astral basin]

@somber stream dunno if you got the same ones but
Space port bunkers, buried has fallen bots
Havent seen these modifiers yet 👀

[drowsy lynx]

Did you two just marry each other?

[fallen tree]

ask them not me

im not even married im engaged

engaged to hunting xenos

[somber stream]

New mods updated today

[fallen tree]

on the safe side, havoc 25+ is hard, and it only gets harder every 5 levels after. different modifiers and spawns mean you have to lock in. the biggest hurdle is learning the difference

[blissful kiln]

what

[fallen tree]

you should try it and find out

[blissful kiln]

what's the highest difficulty you played

[fallen tree]

its not the same rundown though

if you've played auric, it can get way worse

like i said, play havoc and find out ;), remember, it goes to 40

good luck

[velvet sand]

their rank drops when you lose and some people dont like it

[split mauve]

second hardest difficulty?

[fallen tree]

its also like M+ in wow, if ur rating is low you just wont get inv'd

[split mauve]

because auric is 30% harder than the second highest difficulty if anything else

[blissful kiln]

havoc has 40 levels

Havoc 1 is easier than Malice, Havoc 40 is CBT

[fallen tree]

BME pain olympics

[lavish bluff]

@junior holly

[coral solar]

Anyone else having horrible lag only in missions?

[astral basin]

So. Husk graveyard kinda just means free bombadier parts?
Idk. I was having fun pissing off a bastille rat style

[fallen tree]

personally ive been okay. ive had a lot of teammates lag/dc tho

big sad

[coral solar]

Yeah its making the game unplayble and im barely done with the event

I wanna get the trinket for my skaven themed psyker and its just been so miserable

[fallen tree]

good luck, hopefully you get it in time 😦

[coral solar]

Ikr

[elder merlin]

Fat scaly?

@coral solar

[coral solar]

Perhaps

[little marten]

Havoc is pretty fun the matchmaking system for it tho is absolute mega poo

[elder merlin]

Dont worry, it'll never get better

[somber stream]

No idea tbh, busy doing human thing with human people

I'll check it out later

[little marten]

Cringe

[little marten]

Also cringe

[elder merlin]

Husk graveyard? The one where there are just tons of dead robots everywhere?

[somber stream]

Real

[little marten]

I just cleaned out my freezer

Didn’t find any blueprints tho 😔

[elder merlin]

Finally got rid of all the frozen barf and shit, did you?

[astral basin]

Ye

[little marten]

You don’t even wanna know

[elder merlin]

Its what i would imagine a nurgle worshipper's freezer to look like

[astral basin]

The freezer wouldnt freezer

Cold keeps the bugs from growing

[dreamy cliff]

nurgle's pantry

all sorts of strange funguses

[little marten]

It has been off for about a month, I assume it was empty

There was a single breast of chicken in the bottom door

It had become the grandfathers cauldron

I don’t want to be Nurgle gamer anymore 😔

[spiral axle]

its more annoying than hard

[somber stream]

Dang, Sudan is doing Sudan thing again

[fallen tree]

the menus are awful but imagine auto matchmaking for havoc

[upper citrus]

tell me something

[little marten]

If it’s within 5 levels of your assignment rank, then I see no issue

Resets each season

Easy

[upper citrus]

a dream come true, this the only thing holding havoc bad

[fallen tree]

i guess if its segmented that would work

[upper citrus]

isnt that right @amber delta

[little marten]

It’s basically segmented already lmao

[fallen tree]

yea, i meant for auto matchmaking

i imagine that ppl will just leave if they dont get the debuffs they prefer

and thats why its not matchmaking

[upper citrus]

thats also why i dont play, cause no quickplay

[fallen tree]

then a penalty should be applied..

fuck being a gamedev, too hard

shooting easier

[upper citrus]

[fallen tree]

i have a cursed idea, i just thought of it so its gonna be flawed for sure

hardcore havoc. you roll a character at 30, fuck the gun rolling stuff. and you grind levels to max rank havoc

increase max havoc rank by 20 levels or something

😏

you lose the mission, restart

dying is too harsh

[upper citrus]

absolute dogshit idea, which means is very likely for them to add it

[fallen tree]

people were against electricity back in the day, this is the same /s

[drowsy lynx]

There was a guy doing a hardcore version of havoc for a while in Zealot chat that would delete and remake at level 1 every time he lost a havoc match

[elder merlin]

Always insane to me how stupid humans are

[drowsy lynx]

I don't think he made it to 40 lol

[fallen tree]

aeldari*

but you wouldnt know 😔

[fallen tree]

i love that, thats what i was eluding to, and thats so sad that they never made it

if darktide was even remotely popping off, it could be fun to do. probably need a dedicated 4 man for sure

[languid hazel]

Blorfingar :3

[shy sandal]

Who out here raiding their arc rn?

[languid hazel]

Not me

Not a fan of extraction shooters

[little marten]

Soon brother

I just eat eggs first

[shy sandal]

That's fair, it's not for everyone.

[languid hazel]

[shy sandal]

I really love the aesthetics though

[languid hazel]

Unless Heckdivers counts as an extraction shooter

[somber stream]

It's not

[elder merlin]

Lol wut

[shy sandal]

I've heard people make the case Fallout 4's gameplay cycle is very similar to extraction shooters, so...

[somber stream]

[elder merlin]

You down to fight savage planetes later today? @languid hazel

You, me, rampage and @neon agate

[rocky radish]

I've also heard a lot of stupid things

[shy sandal]

I mean, yo go in, loot scraps, go into fetch quests, regroup, upgrade your kit, upgrade your crafting stations, and then do it all again.

I can see the vision

I can see why people think it's similar

[languid hazel]

Sure! I got a couple of attempts in me I suppose

[somber stream]

Rockman is an extraction shooter confirmed

[languid hazel]

You know what, yeah I can kinda see it I suppose

[elder merlin]

Probably wont be til around 6pm or so, its 10:44am right now

[rocky radish]

By that logic, Minecraft is an extraction shooter too

[languid hazel]

It’s at least similar to the genre

[somber stream]

I love extracting my stuff in Skyrim

[shy sandal]

I mean, it doesn't have the shooty part.

[somber stream]

You shoot bows

[rocky radish]

Bows

[hazy kestrel]

Well, you’ve got bows

[shy sandal]

Speaking of minecraft and shooters

I'm surprised Fortnite hasn't tried a extraction shooter gamemode yet

[torn apex]

Give them some time, I'm sure they'll come up with something

[shy sandal]

They usually throw everything at the wall and see what sticks

[torn apex]

Also, only three more days before we know what class is getting introduced in Darktide

[hazy kestrel]

The waiting, the insufferable waiting.

[somber stream]

I used to be an adventurer

[torn apex]

Ikr? I'm dying to know what class we'll get!

[agile raven]

Well unlike extraction shooters FO4 doesn't make me want to kill myself when I die.

[elder merlin]

4 days, will the poozers in chat remain sane until then?

[hazy kestrel]

You’ve just reminded me how much of a loot goblin I’ve been in my current Skyrim playthrough.

So many unique / regular / somewhat interesting items that I’ll never use.

[torn apex]

Hope so lmao

[shy sandal]

For me it's the opposite, cause everytime i die in fallout i know it was because of some janky bethesda coding rather than me making a bad play

[somber stream]

Doesn't have to, use them for decoration in your house

[hazy kestrel]

No

[rocky radish]

I hope when the Sarcon class is added GW will allow some decent cosmetics

[elder merlin]

Hell, half the time we cant even agree on what the class will be

[agile raven]

Okay but at least you can go back with all your stuff and try again instead of it disappearing.

[torn apex]

I wish we'd get any other kind of Arbites armor, like variants of what we currently have

[hazy kestrel]

I have been collecting and sorting books though.

[somber stream]

I collect armour sets as well

And those dragon sage masks

[hazy kestrel]

The monkey’s paw curls, and Fatshark releases the red reskin of the existing Arbites long-coat.

[shy sandal]

I'm usually a cheap fuck in in extraction shooters, so i don't loose much.

My biggest fear in arc and hunt showdown is losing money

[elder merlin]

You're asking too much from fatshark, a studio with a revolving door of employees whose hands are tied by both tencent and GW, mostly GW

[torn apex]

Yeah, how long has it been in the files? It should have already been released

[somber stream]

Money? No. You will learn to fear of losing lemons

[hazy kestrel]

Not as long as the green Cadian carapace armor, that’s for sure.

[shy sandal]

Fruits in general are pretty rare from what I've seen

[torn apex]

Speaking about that, we have a red Militarum outfit in the Commodore currently

[somber stream]

You'll learn where and how to find them as you go

Don't look up guides, it kill the fun

[hazy kestrel]

Yeah, but many of us have been waiting for centuries for the green one to release.

[shy sandal]

I've been struggling to find wires for a mission currently

[torn apex]

Yep, I want the green one more than the red one. Green is just iconic

[somber stream]

Wires? Try electrical stations or electrical looking stuff

[shy sandal]

I've been doing that, just been veey unlucky

[agile raven]

Still running the red camo and cap on Rock Cock Johnson.

I think Veteran is the only one I haven't solidly nailed a selection of cosmetics to.

[rocky radish]

That is one of the names of all time

[agile raven]

Except maybe not, I think I've stuck with the wetwork ball cap for a while now.

[agile raven]

It was gonna be a 4 ogryn strike team, all with those words assorted differently.

Alas that never manifested.

😔

[rocky radish]

Meme teams need to happen

[agile raven]

All psykers trying to overload on peril.

[rocky radish]

They all need emo names then

[agile raven]

Whole entire strike team, all 3 +1 wound curios and all.

Continuous screaming and psychosis induced blabbering.

[rocky radish]

All with the loner voice?

[shy sandal]

I still want to make Mustard Vet, Ketchup Zealot, BBQgryn and Mayo Psyker

Strike Condiments

[agile raven]

4 seer psykers arguing over their Beloved.

[elder merlin]

I do wonder sometimes if GW even notices the playerbase's dissatisfaction with the lack of any arbites cosmetics being added, not that they care, but im saying if they did

[rocky radish]

That is a terrible idea, and I would be honored to volunteer a character slot to help make it happen

[agile raven]

I already got one.

[languid hazel]

What is a temporary housing deficit compared to space being free?

[low hemlock]

Doubt it GW cares more puttin the Boot down on FatShark’s creative choices on Darktide than anything else

[rocky radish]

A full team, or one character?

[low hemlock]

Very Stingy GamesWorkshop is with their IP W40k

💦

[elder merlin]

Surprised they even have a ip with the way they are

[low hemlock]

Same can be said with Star Warz, Disney Films, FridayThe13th, etc.

When Big Companies have control over IP,
they are the ones calling the shots

[elder merlin]

Too bad they're talentless hacks

[agile raven]

A character.

[little marten]

I still don’t know where to find fruit lol

[astral basin]

Apparently they have dedicated spots

Space port has a parking lot with one of the important ones?

[little marten]

I only go to spare port for flesh

[languid hazel]

[upper citrus]

lotta people seem to believe it is, but they are hella wrong, helldivers has nothing from extraction shooters

[elder merlin]

Who believes this?

[old gull]

2-Handed Power Axe for Zealot when?

[old gull]

For something more serious

Do we have clues on the next class?

[rocky radish]

Stupid brain won't go to sleep. Guess that means I need to get up and make dumb Darktide builds

[rocky radish]

Apparently it's Sarcon

[old gull]

Sarcon?

Lemme look it up

[rocky radish]

Sarcon Deez nuts!

[blissful kiln]

[old gull]

Just realized it a second after, and now I am going to commit heinous crimes to your cat.

[blissful kiln]

the new class is actually Ligmar

[old gull]

No Ligmarites allowed.

[round mica]

bought satisfactory, time to pollute the world with the beauty of industrialization

[upper citrus]

join the arc raiders discord, lmao

all the pve'ers call helldivers a extraction shooter

[elder merlin]

Lol fuck that, i already have to deal with the cesspool pvpers enough as it is

[elder merlin]

The only reason i could see this is extracting the samples, thats it

[rocky radish]

Ah, my number one ADHD fixation. I have 840 hours in it

[shy sandal]

Codename: Broker

Possible lore implications:

• A Hive Ganger who is hired to mediate the rations crysis in Atoma.

These are just speculations, as always

[upper citrus]

darktide is an extraction shooter

[old gull]

So "Broker" is the codename...

[elder merlin]

Alright, its bait, but you still deserve to die. Kill him, @misty trench

[old gull]

Outlaw?

[elder merlin]

This just in, old ass news is old

[shy sandal]

The same way people found out about arbites cause they found a codename "adamant" in the files, they also found "broker"

[old gull]

Clues are clues.

Anyway

11/11.

[round mica]

which world do you recommend starting off on

[old gull]

Imagine if they drop this at 11:11

[shy sandal]

Not everyone is up to date chief, no harm in explaining it

[elder merlin]

This is all shit we already know at this point though, we've already determined the two most likely candidates are either some sort of admech or a hive ganger

[old gull]

I don't know that.

[elder merlin]

Well where have they been? I literally see people bring this up everyday at this point

Stop reading the lex so much, @old gull

[rocky radish]

It's just different places in the same world. If you're new, go for the first location

[old gull]

One, I am a Veteran main.

[round mica]

i’m thinking of the first or second

[old gull]

Two, I am not chronically here.

[round mica]

i like the rocky dessert

[old gull]

And THREE, I found a few drip ideas.

[round mica]

bro counted up to 3

i’m impressed

it gets a lil blurry after that for me

[blissful kiln]

already smarter than an average qp player

[round mica]

if you can convince me there is a number higher than three i’ll actually pay your mortgage

[old gull]

Fourth was about what new weapon we might get.

[round mica]

?????

bro is making up words now

anywho

[old gull]

AdMech, Hive Ganger...

[rocky radish]

there's no penalty really. there just may be a bit more wandering in the later options, but probably closer to the rarer resources you will use later on

[old gull]

So what kind of exclusive weapons would they have?

[elder merlin]

Change that name then, Soldier

[round mica]

good thinkin

[elder merlin]

Hell, i aint either, but when i am here i always see someone bringing up the class, either here or on the subreddit

Also who am i kidding, im here more than the mods sometimes

[old gull]

The third is the most important stuff for me.

[elder merlin]

Either way, all the speculation in the world is worthless, the class'll come out when it comes out

Just wait the 4 days to either be happy or disappointed

[old gull]

If we get Hive Ganger, we might get a discount Guardian Spear.

[hazy kestrel]

I’M SO READY FOR DISAPPOINTMENT, MECHANICUS-BROS!

[old gull]

If we get AdMech, I hope we can get some funny guns.

Like the Galvanic Rifle or its slightly bigger cousin.

[tawny gorge]

it has extraction shooter elements

[upper citrus]

...

[tawny gorge]

but its not an extraction shooter lol, idk why people still call hd one

[upper citrus]

@elder merlin

[old gull]

Question.

[upper citrus]

what extraction shooter elements does it have? you shoot?

cod is an extraction shooter

[old gull]

Transuranic Arquebus when?

[tawny gorge]

the fact you literally do what you have to do and extract?

[upper citrus]

...

[old gull]

It's AdMech gun.

[hazy kestrel]

I know.

[upper citrus]

all horde shooters are extraction shooters then

[tawny gorge]

okay tell me what makes an extraction shooter one