general-chat

[final herald]

If it takes mass indoctrination to get people to give a shit about loss of life, so be it

[shy sandal]

What kind of philosophical gobbledygook is this?

[fair bridge]

corru.observer has some cool ideas of death. the aliens in the game, the obesk, transition to a state of "death" that is really just a transference of their consciousness to a physical construct that they control

[digital lava]

gives Soma vibes

[fair bridge]

their bodies die but they are effectively immortal

good game

[final herald]

Could be a neat course of action

[fair bridge]

i need to play the update

[final herald]

I would like for multiple methods to prolong life to exist and compete with one another

Competiton breeds innovation and all that

Realistically that just turns into the infighting of various sects but

Itll be fine for now

[civic otter]

Living with the purpose of extending life sounds horrible

[digital lava]

Dying just sounds boring

[final herald]

Living with the purpose of living

Humans are meant to live. The purpose of life itself is to live.

[digital lava]

Life is what you make it

[civic otter]

And everything is meant to die in return, so others may take their place. Something that goes on for too long grows stagnant

[final herald]

Most innovations on this planet have been either to continue living, or to kill people to enforce your own living.

[final herald]

Not quite.

[civic otter]

This too of course

Living is very much so subjective

[final herald]

But, it should be up to the individual when and if they die.

Agency is very important in this kind of mindset.

No one should be kept living if they don't think it is worth it. That would be torture, methinks.

[civic otter]

That would cause collapse of society. People choosing to live longer would have too much power, and also we would need much, much more resources

This reality is so far that by then

[upper citrus]

Play it, I won't stop you

[civic otter]

Guess what both of us will be

[final herald]

No

[shy sandal]

Life has no purpose, and I'm fine with that

[final herald]

What

We already have war-on-death religions

They just went about it differently

[upper citrus]

Speak for yourself peasant

[final herald]

The purpose of life is to live. Its as simple as that.

What you are living for is the contention.

[civic otter]

We have religions about anything literally. Doesn't make it relevant or important

[upper citrus]

the emperor is my religion

[final herald]

....and none of the ones I spoke about have 'collapsed society'

Do not make such lofty and baseless claims

Its just fearmongering

[civic otter]

Because of how irrelevant it is

[civic otter]

Yes provost

[final herald]

Whar

What collapses society is when old men stop caring about life.

[shy sandal]

As to me, life is a cruel joke, but a funny one that i can appreciate it

[final herald]

It keeps happening. It continues to happen. Its happening now.

People with nothing to lose make it everyone's problem.

"We don't need the environment, I want money"

"Yes, start another war"

[digital lava]

Life's a laugh, and death's the joke, its true.

[round mica]

Life is great man

[final herald]

I am staunchly against the concept of nihilism

[round mica]

i don’t wanna die

i got too much to live for

[civic otter]

It's natural. Life can't be lived/enjoyed for long, let alone for as long as you want. This is seen especially in nature, horses literally leave their old to die due to both their lack of purpose/ability and the horses themselves not having much will anymore

An example

[final herald]

Those old decrepit men pass this mindset on to the next set of old decrepit men who think it is "their turn" to be old and decrepit men

[shy sandal]

As long as you don't do anything stupid or you aren't above 70, you should be fine

[digital lava]

Is that the thing about giants?

[final herald]

I think you missed the point entirely

[digital lava]

No wait that nephilim

[final herald]

The herd is in charge with horses

[round mica]

im the sure all the white monsters i drink will catch up to me and the moment I turn 70 i just collapse

[civic otter]

You're getting there

[digital lava]

Least I spelled it right

[final herald]

With humans, the old men are in charge, and they no longer care for health. They just care to get richer and fatter

[shy sandal]

At least you were living the life

[astral basin]

What do you get when a dragon sneezes

Out of the way

[dusky relic]

Guys, is there a new bug with presets?

[final herald]

The basis of 40k is like a lamp to ppl with nihilistic minds

But I guess thats the point of grimdark

[civic otter]

This is true for most old men in positions of power but then again who else would take their position. I certainly wouldn't want to be in a position of power/ruling regardless of money/living comfort

[blissful kiln]

old men - are the future

[civic otter]

Neither would most young people

[digital lava]

I just like the robot dude's

[shy sandal]

Absurdist, not nihilistic

[final herald]

Correct. It is the ones in power who have the capability to use it.

[final herald]

The "no purpose" thing is an inherently nihilistic concept

Life already defined its purpose

[round mica]

idk man i don’t care about the lore it bores the absolute shit outta me, i just like da games

[upper citrus]

Why you shooing me

[final herald]

That purpose, very simply, is living.

[shy sandal]

Absurdists also believe life has no meaning, besides being absurd

[upper citrus]

Yall still going about living?

[round mica]

warhammer lore is equivalent to one piece fisherman island arc

absolute snooze fest

[shy sandal]

I got a full more hour on the bus

[blissful kiln]

warhammer is anime, correct

[final herald]

I like warhammer lore becausr it is absurd

[upper citrus]

Let the dude who hates his life go off

[round mica]

well duh

bro said something so obvious and for what

[digital lava]

He should be purging heritecs

[final herald]

I also just hate death cult style religions in general

[astral basin]

Hold on nihilism isnt just “giving up”
Its not pessimism

[upper citrus]

Warhammer enjoyerd when they find out there's 39999 others out there

[final herald]

They pmo

[surreal onyx]

What time does the shop reset? Thought it would’ve by now.

[round mica]

next week

4 AM on thursdays EST

[final herald]

It inherently and originally is.

[somber stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Q1hoEhfk4
Straight out of black mirror

[surreal onyx]

Shit. Many thanks.

[shy sandal]

None of them wielded by the Emperor 💔

[digital lava]

S O O N

[round mica]

hello buddy

[final herald]

Ppl be quoting neitzsche and forget his point about nihilism is very specifically overcoming it.

[somber stream]

Ello oggy, how goes?

[upper citrus]

He used at least 3

[final herald]

The entire point of nihilism as a concept is as a pervasive adversary.

[round mica]

i started my new job this week

very fun

pays very well

[astral basin]

Nihilism is the belief that nothing matters, life is meaningless
Its not about giving up, its that there is no true value in anything. Waste of energy

[round mica]

we are thriving

[upper citrus]

Now you can buy more cosmetics and fund darktide

[round mica]

i mean i already was beforehand but this is a new experience

[shy sandal]

"I can only spare 3 hammers" Captain Alcheran

[round mica]

i’ve spent nearly $300 on darktide

[final herald]

No. Self-actualization is learning that it does matter, but not inherently.

That you have to assign value yourself.

[upper citrus]

Rookie numbers, but your service is appreciated

[orchid skiff]

so ur the reason this shit game is still on

[round mica]

$300 is quite a lot seeing we keep getting dumb slop and recolours

[final herald]

With no god, you have to put in the effort to determine that things matter and can't rely on your generational sky tulpa.

Determining this yourself is overcoming nihilism.

[upper citrus]

No that'd be me

[round mica]

[round mica]

how’re you

[final herald]

Absurdism > Nihilism because it actually packages the point of human self determinism already

[shy sandal]

Hi Licht

[final herald]

Absurdism =/= nihilism

[round mica]

this reminds me of the good ole debate of can you be atheist and believe in objective morality

[next iris]

thank you for your sacrifice

[fair bridge]

i give fatshark half my paycheck every week 🥺

i gotta make sure those devs can eat

[next iris]

Sounds like a lot of effort.

I'll pass.

Embrace nihilism.

[astral basin]

Overcoming nihilism? Its not just a state of mind like depression or joy
Some people just simply live life with a nihilistic view

Along with the “no god” thing. An atheist comedian helped spread a mantra. “I commit as much crime as i wish; which is none. I hold enough pride and wealth of knowledge to determine right from wrong, rather than be told right and wrong purely for fear of being judged.”

[final herald]

Its my favourite because people will completely miss things on both sides

Some people really do need that external input, unfortunately.

[somber stream]

Very nice! Glad you got the job bud. I’m whirling in an ocean of paperworks after a 7 hours meeting session with my clients, fun!

[shy sandal]

Camus and Nietzche thought the answer was "there are no universal morals"

For Camus only inherent good, and for Nietzche, "Fuck them kids" make your own morals

[somber stream]

Ello Armet!

[final herald]

Overcoming nihilism is indeed a state of mind.

The no god thing is the point neitzsche was attempting to get across about the need to determine meaning yourself.

The whole "god is dead and we killed him" thing that gets half-quoted so often

[blissful kiln]

I killed God

[shy sandal]

Nerf Thunder Hammer

[blissful kiln]

mb

[final herald]

The entire quote's point is about the fact that you gotta put in the legwork yourself and people still fail that

[round mica]

i mean, to be honest, where did this conversation spawn? i ain’t mad but rather intrigued

was someone in here being a debby downer or something

[final herald]

I was talking about waging war against death

[shy sandal]

Idk tbh

[final herald]

Just a natural progression of topics imo

[round mica]

ah

[final herald]

I do like me some philosophy

[astral basin]

I have no idea. I saw something alomg the lines of “i hate nihilism”, wanted to engage like “hey its more like this”
Didnt realise i was being roped into some preacher style nonsense

[wheat sphinx]

I might become a Vet main over Zealot, despite Zealot being my first character, JUST because of how much fun I have listening to Cutthroat.

[final herald]

PREACHER STYLE NONSENSE

[round mica]

i fear death only because i don’t want to die without doing all the things i set out to do

[final herald]

Uuuuuuuuuuuu7gh

[shy sandal]

That's one of the reasons i main him

[round mica]

[wheat sphinx]

Yessss

[shy sandal]

It ees what it ees for me

[final herald]

"Self actualization is when you do things yourself for yourself"

• preacher style nonsense

[round mica]

i still got be a father and husband, let me raise my kids and love my wife then take me at the ripe age of 80 and i’ll be happy

[final herald]

I didn't think this was much else besides a discussion

[astral basin]

Dude “tulpa” became about creating quirky fake personalities in the west
Unironically mentioning in the great 2025 wo legit bhuddist context seems a lil cringe

[final herald]

Whar

[round mica]

it is a discussion no worries

[shy sandal]

The Tulpas in my head are telling me to drink 5 litres of vodka

[somber stream]

We need to quintuple the red head population

[round mica]

7 hours of meetings is killer

i hope you have a hemorrhoid pillow

[tender horizon]

-Dan Abnett

[shy sandal]

Sir yes sir!

[somber stream]

🫡

[astral basin]

Yeah no the last time i heard about “tulpas”
It was being used in the same context as “reality phasing”

[somber stream]

I jog, so is k

[final herald]

In this context I am using "tupla" extremely plainly

[round mica]

you jog when having hemorrhoids????

you savage soul

[somber stream]

That's just how i roll

[final herald]

Also "original buddhist context" Alexandra isnt exactly

That

At all

[round mica]

speaking of cardio, it was cardio day for me yesterday and i did 45 minutes in a stair master

[final herald]

Lmfao

[round mica]

jesus christ

[astral basin]

How plainly?
Idr the actual buddhist definition of it, but i can almost guarantee its manifestation of thought through meditation

[fair bridge]

i wanna get a peloton

[final herald]

There is no

[round mica]

a meatheads worst enemy is any cardio machine

[fair bridge]

and be like my favorite streamer

[final herald]

"Original buddhist" definition

[shy sandal]

5 minutes in hell

[final herald]

The modern concept of a tulpa is because of alexandra david-neel

She just took a word and assigned new meaning to it

She literally just mispronounced the word for "magic"

[astral basin]

Interesting

[round mica]

when I wrestled in HS our coach made us do uphill suicide runs if you know what those are

[final herald]

French proto-hippie gaslighting strikes again

But uh

In the more serious context of what she was doing is manifesting a state of mind

Or rather

[round mica]

was never a day i didn’t throw up doing those

[final herald]

A representation of certain concepts

[mint fern]

Ah shit, did not played for half a year I think and, I must redo all of my talent tree skills, uhr...

[shy sandal]

Two things gymbros fear.

"Suicide" before the exercise name

The name of a Balkan nationality before an exercise

[round mica]

me when i see the name romanian in front of the word deadlift

[final herald]

My favourite thing about lots of modern philosophy is how much of it was borne into being by relatively bored people in the 1900s

Some of it scared people

[round mica]

there’s a lot of people who think philosophy is useless anyways

[shy sandal]

Nothing ever happens birthed modern philosophy

[final herald]

Like accelerationists right before nitrogen production got invented

[astral basin]

Brain rot

[final herald]

"We have to kill everyone to live because we are running out of bird shit" is an actual phenomenon that happened

[round mica]

when i too get bored i start thinking some very whacky ideas

[final herald]

I love history so much

[round mica]

look up the history of kellogg cereal

quite interesting

[final herald]

I am....aware

[round mica]

[amber delta]

[astral basin]

“If we make food as boring as possible, the inmates wont even have the ability to goon”

[round mica]

now, they just use each other

[final herald]

Feed them flakes or they will start bussin

[amber delta]

gooning willl continue until morale improves

[round mica]

mmmmmmm bland flakes

[round mica]

porn addiction is so sad

[final herald]

Every addiction I have had has been curbed by basically gaslighting myself into procrastinating so hard that my brain decides it must not be important anymore

I doubt this will work with hard drugs but

[round mica]

enough talk, time for the test

[amber delta]

we need to hold people responsible for porn industry accountable

[leaden granite]

I'm afraid that'd be rather difficult to achieve

[round mica]

sending you 10 kilos of every hard drug known to man

we will start off with the russian drug of choice in the ghetto, crocodil

[final herald]

I would probably cash in hell hard on the reward money for turning you in

Also

Krokodil is

SO FUCKED

[leaden granite]

Ain't that the one that causes necrosis

[round mica]

yes

[final herald]

"Here is the fuck-you drug that kills you and gives you a relatively short high"

[round mica]

but also makes you look like a zombie so cool

[final herald]

Fent but somehow more evil and less potent

[round mica]

here in Louisiana an older drug that was nearly phased out is making a return unfortunately

it’s called loveboat

[final herald]

What kinda drug is it

[round mica]

crushed up starlight mints sprayed with formaldehyde

then you smoke it

[final herald]

Wh

[round mica]

yee

[leaden granite]

I mean, pretty much every single drug is like that

[round mica]

it’s a very ghetto-centric drug

only used when you’re absolutely desperate for a high

[final herald]

Many are just not that rediculous though

[tender horizon]

Bro smokin sherm

[final herald]

Even most basic opioids aren't as stupid as taking krokodil

[leaden granite]

Imagine doing allat when you can just whiff solvent

[round mica]

just go to your local vehicle and open the gas lid and take a whiff

that’ll get you goin

[tender horizon]

I used to know a guy who sold sherm, called him the Sherminator

[leaden granite]

Overall, I mean. Drugs are the "fuck-you" thing to make you feel momentarily good

[final herald]

Aye fair enough

[round mica]

with my new job i haul gas tankers and refuel stations, them gas fumes are potent

[final herald]

I remember some dude called me a privileged white boy for "never needing to smoke weed" in the armored core discord

[leaden granite]

They make me nauseous

[final herald]

And I'm like "im a black kid who grew up in the projects maybe I just got better mental fortitude"

[tired inlet]

Space Station 13 Chemistry mentioned

[round mica]

huh????

[round mica]

need to build that immunity up

[leaden granite]

I'm wondering if addicted people ever consider that you can find another way of escape than drugs

[amber delta]

"nooo weed is not addictive I just like it"

needs to smoke it

[final herald]

Mine was having a really strong imagination + drawing

[round mica]

people usually don’t like my answer to this

[leaden granite]

It's no

[round mica]

no

[final herald]

I say "was"

[leaden granite]

"Nah man im not addicted"
Proceeds to smoke daily

[final herald]

Still is

I daydream alot

[round mica]

i usually just say find god and be apart of your community and you’ll feel infinitely better, but then i get berated for that idea

i’m like okay then

[tender horizon]

I'm not gonna tell you to find god but I will tell you going for a run and participating in your local community helps.

[final herald]

Religion is a comically powerful coping tool for community reasons alone

Sometimes its just the idea that things will eventually be okay

[civic otter]

weed never did anything for me tbh. at least drinking numbs my mind for some time and gives whatever i'm feeling stronger intensity

[leaden granite]

I had a prolonged episode with drugs, but I never was much of a believer and I had very strong social anxiety so these were a nono for me

[coarse tree]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Last_Church_(Short_Story)

[leaden granite]

I can understand how that'll work

[tender horizon]

Idk the best solution I found to quit smoking weed was to smoke so much of it you don't even get high anymore, it's just maintenance. Realize it does nothing for you and it doesn't help solve your problems. That's why I stopped.

[round mica]

i enjoy my community and living my life for christ, wouldn’t say it’s to cope though

[leaden granite]

You give yourself an anchor point

[astral basin]

Its much easier to come clean from weed than it is most other drugs. You dont get withdrawals. Just a hankering.
The problem comes in the reliance on the release it provides.

[civic otter]

famous priest and the emperor debate?

[final herald]

No one who is religious would call it that

Its just how they deal with life. That "is" coping. Like.

Literally

[round mica]

that’s fair, and i respect that

[leaden granite]

I never liked weed much

[final herald]

Not the meme "haha cope"

But like genuine "how to deal with life"

[leaden granite]

Ye

[final herald]

The issues for me arise when there are like 80 religions and all of them eventually get up in arms about which one is the best

[civic otter]

that is bound to happen tbh

when there is more about anything than just one example of it

[final herald]

At least we're past the bronze age "I have captured 2 towns so basically I am god" phase of humanity

[leaden granite]

It's the same thing like with politics. A very sensitive topic that leads to nothing but hostility

[civic otter]

hell even if you had 1 religion we'd have infighting

[final herald]

Ye

[round mica]

i mean, i respect everyone and their beliefs, but at the end of the day i have my own and i don’t see theirs a reason to become hateful

[final herald]

Sects would eventually proliferate and start shanking eachother

[round mica]

i believe we are able to disagree and still coincide lmao

[final herald]

Thats my view basically

[ocean widget]

a guy did that
safe to say he had no fawkes about it though

[final herald]

I think religion is ultimately necessary for some people and can be a beneficial tool

[tired inlet]

Literally had a member of one religion burn down a church in an unrelated state where a member of theirs through nonreligious nihilistic purposes killed someone belonging to the other.

last week

[round mica]

a real test of maturity is being able to disagree with someone but still be kind, or continue friendship with that person. A personal view on something that doesn’t harm you shouldn’t be a reason to cut that off imo

but some people will disagree

[tired inlet]

that's selfish, it must also not cause harm to others, through direct or indirect causes such as the perpetuation of systemic harms through forms of sociopolitical or cultural hegemony.

[final herald]

Huh

[round mica]

that’s what i implied???

[tired inlet]

No, what you wrote was to oneself

[final herald]

To make it that nebulous is not the duty of a sole man

This is very obviously about one on one interactions

[tired inlet]

interactions which can still affect others

[final herald]

Correct....

And yet

[rocky radish]

May i introduce you to our lords and saviors, Indifference and Apathy?

You know who never causes problems for others? Lazy people. It’s always motivated people who are causing the big problems

[fierce cave]

John wicky

[final herald]

Guy falling asleep at nuclear reactor:

[ocean widget]

josephus mallone

[tired inlet]

truly, this is the path to defeating the chaos gods

[ocean widget]

https://nurgle.stelio.net/char_Carrier.php

[rocky radish]

A lazy person would never have qualified for the job

[civic otter]

you can't walk into a debate/argument and not expect to ever get touched in some form of way though. and it's impossible to try to do as well, how can i adjust myself perfectly to what doesn't offend you in any way

[hazy kestrel]

Apathy is death.

[ocean widget]

a guy who was lazy became a nurgle prince

[hazy kestrel]

Man, I should replay KOTOR 2 now.

[rocky radish]

I shall rebuke you with our fierce battlecry of “meh”

[final herald]

Self control on a personal level is the duty of all people

[civic otter]

truly, this man has not spent 1 second in the balkans!

[cyan marten]

So advice for anyone who was like me unable to find any parties to join in QP or hosted missions, make sure you are in using the correct server I was being put in asia and that server is dead 💀

[civic otter]

[tired inlet]

offense can cause harm, but there is a distinct difference between "being offended" as a form of insult, and causing direct or perpetuating indirect harms on others.

[tired inlet]

Tell my wife I said, "Hello"

[final herald]

That scuffed ass PVP server is the poster child of why self control should be more prolific

Genocide over bottle found in ass is insane

Starting ww1 because the guy who wants to give you independence won't give you a different state that also wants independence

[amber delta]

Bottle found in ass is insane

[final herald]

Serbians man

[civic otter]

genocide over anything, give me one reason to invade serbia

it's all i need

[amber delta]

there are serbians living there

[round mica]

this feels like a way to try and mitigate being told things you don’t want to hear though, because you could debate someone and the moment you hear something you don’t like, would you start saying it’s an insult to you?

[final herald]

Serbians ending a convorsation about economics with "so anyways thats why we need to kill all the kosovars"

Unprompted

[civic otter]

coming back to this, i mean, how can you know to make that difference, that's the point, being this considerate, at least in my eyes is pointless and will only serve to confuse yourself

[round mica]

Civil discourse is a very real thing, but if you go into a conversation knowing that you might be offended by what another person has to say absently start acting out on it i genuinely think you need to reflect on that

[civic otter]

everyone says "kosovo is albania/kosovo is serbia", but no one says kosovo is just kosovo

i am telling you though

[tired inlet]

I'm a better person than that, and I don't believe what people say just because they insist upon it. I'm skeptical and a trained computer scientist. I know how to do research and perform data analysis and read scientific papers and charts.

[civic otter]

kosovars

speak albanian with such a heavy accent

it's like

british english but worse

somehow

[final herald]

[tired inlet]

There's a limit to magnanimity; and there exist sociopolitical elements which take advantage of 'enlightened centrism' to push an overton window to mainstream an extremist position within cultural contexts and normalize atrocities.

[final herald]

I get what you're getting at but this isn't quite the scope of the "be nice and allow disagreements to exist without escalating to violence" convo

[obtuse oak]

disco elysium tackled this in the realest way possible

the wasteland of reality

[final herald]

Systemic issues must be tackled systemically

[obtuse oak]

Problem
It has been brought to your attention that you’re an alcoholic. And that it’s a sickness. And it’s killing you. You're crawling on your knees through life, your booze-filled belly dragging on the ground, your brain now fuzzy, now in overdrive, your hair sticking together with today's cold sweat and yesterday's vomit. Perhaps they’re right. Anything is better than this. Even bone-dry reality itself. Maybe you can quit?

Solution
Congrats – you're sober. It will take a while for your body to remember how to metabolize anything that isn't sugar from alcohol, so you're going to be pretty ravenous soon. Eat plenty. You can expect your coordination and balance to improve in a couple of weeks. In two months, you might start sleeping like a normal person. Full recovery will take years, though. It’ll be depressing. And it’ll be boring. Don’t expect any further rewards or handclaps. This is how normal people are all the time.

[final herald]

That ship takes a lot longer to steer than most others

[rocky radish]

(Not in this discord) I seem to encounter a lot of stupid views from people who can’t be reasoned with. Just today someone was insisting that creators of art materials have some claim over creative works made with those tools.

[final herald]

And a lot of the time can be entirely up to the whim of a given society

Regardless of intent

[tired inlet]

Watching the logical conclusions of anti-intellectualism and cognitive dissonance of authoritarianism playout through a post-truth world in the past 25 years and I find myself a bit grizzled to this naiveté.

[civic otter]

at least in my eyes, if you must push yourself to be "neutral" whether that be within parameters of your behaviour, your political beliefs, etc.. just to debate with someone then there is no point because it is not honest. this is a fake persona i'd upkeep with general workbuddies or in official workplaces, but in real discussions with friends or newly met strangers i'm being honest no matter what

if you find that vulgar that is fine

[obtuse oak]

wait hold on. lads, rule 11 exists.

[final herald]

Thats because a lot of anti-intellectualism isn't actually founded on the idea of disagreeing

Just

ignoring

[obtuse oak]

shitting on serbs is firmly across the line with a pinky toe. back up a bit.

[final herald]

Plugging ears and going "lalala"

[final herald]

Very well

[tired inlet]

It is to them due to the compartmentalization capabilities of authoritarians.

[tired inlet]

That's the cognitive dissonance.

[amber delta]

let's back it up to shitting on the french

[civic otter]

albanian disintegrating noises

[obtuse oak]

shitting on the french isn't political or controversial, simply necessary. sustained

[final herald]

Bruh

[civic otter]

in all honesty

the one time i was in paris

due to my other bugging me about it all year

it really did smell bad

and the locals smelled worse

like, actual trash can smell

[minor narwhal]

did you see any cool rats

[final herald]

actual crimes that keep getting perpetuated constantly

"Back it up"

france is kinda stinky

"Nice keep going"

Ik its a joke but

Pensive emoji

[civic otter]

unironically, yes

[minor narwhal]

awesome

[round mica]

french people being born with a natural debuff

[amber delta]

the french invented perfume not because it smelled nice but because it smelled better than them

[rocky radish]

Your username offends me, as a lazy person who avoids any hardship

[round mica]

didn’t the egyptians sorta experiment with this first with scented animals fats being rubbed on the skin

[civic otter]

there were very good perfumes there, but the people didn't seem to understand, that if you smell like actual garbage and you throw perfume on top you become an actual hazard

[obtuse oak]

it's definitely a joke, if the conversation devolves into actual problematic stereotyping or politicized debates about the validity of their statehood or whatever then same rule applies. but we dont have to pretend that the french and the serbs and kosovars are in a similar political situation. we can shit on the french a little. as a treat

[final herald]

🧍

[minor narwhal]

i have no idea why people meme on the french but it is kinda funny

[civic otter]

as a person who faces hardship for a living i will find you

[amber delta]

it's safe-edgy thing to do

same with shitting on briish

[hazy kestrel]

Because they’re French pal.

[rocky radish]

For a hug? Do you need a hug?

[minor narwhal]

its just not fair for paris to take all the rats

[round mica]

i believe the ye olde term “ say it don’t spray it “ was invented because of the french

[obtuse oak]

france is a prosperous and powerful nation with a strong cultural identity that it is fully allowed to actualize and exploit to its own benefit. making jokes about the french is, broadly speaking, punching up.

that's why it's a little different.

[final herald]

So is Serbia

What

[minor narwhal]

i feel like people would powerscale serbia

[final herald]

The jokes about Serbia are about their tendency to punch down

[civic otter]

physical contact??? miss me with that buddy!! 🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[amber delta]

well it's not punching up for me because my nation is much better

[final herald]

They do it alot historically its like the running meme in the balkans

They were punching down while punching up when they killed ferdinand man

😭

[obtuse oak]

alright fair enough, punching up isn't the right term to use here, I just mean that france isn't part of a contentious political or sectarian or ethnic conflict

[final herald]

See I could be real pretentious here but

I wont cause I get what you mean

o7

[obtuse oak]

o7

[civic otter]

we totally needed that after centuries of turks making albania a doner kebab

man it is genuinely ridiculous

we escaped communism barely 40 years ago

my father was literally born and raised under enver hoxha's reign

[amber delta]

may God smite every filthy communist

[round mica]

🦅

[civic otter]

the same dictator who walled up albania like some goddamn warlord

we have so many bunkers they're a tourist attraction

[amber delta]

I am NOT American, cease such nasty insinuations

[civic otter]

[round mica]

🦅

[final herald]

The world would be much different if serbia had like

[drowsy lynx]

Balt eekul

[final herald]

Any coastline

[blissful kiln]

all capitalist SCUM are the same

[final herald]

Singlehandedly flipping the trajectory of the planet by moving serbia like 90km west

[orchid skiff]

This is France's world and you're all just living in it

[drowsy lynx]

One day they will realize their ultimate goal of turning all pizzas into French bread pizzas

[orchid skiff]

Do NOT baguette react me. You will be sentenced to guillotine.

[civic otter]

this new darktide update is crazy, when did they release patch notes for politics

[final herald]

Plasma gunner induced trauma

[hazy kestrel]

Okay Robespierre

[drowsy lynx]

The dump stat on a croissant is NOT lamination

[round mica]

i didn’t think they were that bad, but i do hate them

[civic otter]

hearing VVVVRRRRRRRTTTT as a staff psyker mid cast then seeing all my toughness leave cannot get any funnier (at least pre hotfix)

[final herald]

Lmfao

I was using uh

Exe stance vet

Surprisingly durable against that bs

[civic otter]

vet is a lifesaver in plasma gunner situations

need someone to pick them out efficiently

[round mica]

why did i think you were imitating an A-10 Warthog

[final herald]

I just ran up to them

And stabbed them

Didn't even shoot

[civic otter]

lolol

[final herald]

Just stabbed them in the face

[civic otter]

i can't lie though, i am too idea-less to think of something about their indicator

like, plasma guns just don't have that

they just glow and make noise

[final herald]

They don't need one they need recognizeable callouts

[round mica]

i thought the sound of that plasma gun charging up was their indicator..

[final herald]

Something as simple as indicating that they are nearby is enouhj

[amber delta]

if you look at a plasma gunner while he's is charging a shot your screen goes white from being blinded

[ocean widget]

yeah just make the charge noise louder and give them a noise for them cooling down the gun after they fire tbf

[final herald]

"PLASMA, COMING IN HOT"

Sure

But rn the only warning is

You are shot

[civic otter]

it's supposed to be but as someone who can already barely hear i have no clue where that charging sound is in the middle of the horde

[ocean widget]

you are dead, not big surprise

[final herald]

Even gunners at least say shit before they fire

[civic otter]

that could work. make em annoying like trappers

[round mica]

bro has finally met his match

[final herald]

Distant echoey ahah HAH

I be on high alert every time

And then they come giggling around the corner

Its so fucking obvious

[civic otter]

yep

[amber delta]

ehueheuheuhe

[final herald]

But it vastly helps counterplay even when theres like

10 of them

[civic otter]

heeheehaahaa

[round mica]

honestly i’ll be real with yall, i dont pay attention to any indicators but for 3, flamers, trappas, sploders’

[civic otter]

does anyone have any idea when krieg cosmetics last came around? i'm dying for the vet set

[ocean widget]

skulls

[final herald]

I tend to pay attention to too many

So many noises are so indicative of certain enemies

Its part of why I am liking helldivers less and less

[civic otter]

what personality would i even use though. professional would be the closest i guess

[round mica]

when krieg set are you wanting

[hazy kestrel]

Tox bomber’s lines have been seared into my mind.

[ocean widget]

just wait til skulls and the krieg set will pop up again

[final herald]

The tox bomber is

So fucking horny

To share his farts with you

[civic otter]

literally any at this point

[final herald]

I hate him but hes iconic

[hazy kestrel]

EMBRACE NURGLE’S KISS! Rowr~!

[round mica]

i only have the blue one

[fair bridge]

i heard like one voice line from the plasma gunner in i don't know how many games

[civic otter]

THOU ART COWARDS!!! runs away

[final herald]

EMBRACE!!!!

[ocean widget]

im pretty sure they're actually rotting heads

[final herald]

The one....

TRUUUUUE NAAAMEEEENNNNGH

[final herald]

They are yeah

[ocean widget]

yeah tox bonber nades are literally just peoples heads

[fair bridge]

#darktide-pics-vids message

idek if it was him, never heard it before though

[hazy kestrel]

Let us share the truth, WITH YOU! Incoherent noise

[round mica]

i like the voice line for the normal bombers “ don’t worry i’ll flush em out “

continues to bret farve throw a nade across the map

[ocean widget]

dudes gonna die from an infected wound caused by a severed head someday i bet

[hazy kestrel]

I believe you mean: READYING OMICRON MORTIS INTERCESSION!

[final herald]

Im so glad they added the scab flamer lines back

[fair bridge]

interception

[final herald]

Scab flamers fucking love their jobs man

[hazy kestrel]

WANT ‘EM CRISPY?!

[round mica]

i wish i understood this

[fair bridge]

WANT EM CRISPY

[hazy kestrel]

Intercession

[ocean widget]

die bitch in arbites terms

[fair bridge]

no .,,,,

[final herald]

Its intercession iirc

[hazy kestrel]

Yes

[fair bridge]

wtf is intercession

[round mica]

the humble mutant indicator: guh mmmm mmmm mmm guh huh uh mmmm mm mm mm

[fair bridge]

what is that

[round mica]

running at the speed of light

[ocean widget]

the action of intervening on behalf of another.

[final herald]

Its basically an inrervention

[civic otter]

itervlvllbld

[fair bridge]

i do not believe you

[final herald]

He is literal saying "I am going to help my team with grenades"

[round mica]

then the AAAAHHHHHHH

[ocean widget]

if its an intercession then why the fuck are shotgun rounds involved

[final herald]

The rest is just the goofy milspeak

[hazy kestrel]

THE DIVINE STENCH OF ROT! Gags

[final herald]

This is the scab bomber

[round mica]

i don’t know if it’s true or not but i was told the guy who did the sounds for mutant is a death metal vocalist?

[ocean widget]

they dont need to have a shotgun for shotgun rounds being involved

[final herald]

Do scab shotgunners say it to? Because the imperium is uh

[ocean widget]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[final herald]

A little silly

[thick coyote]

"Ash on the wind" 🗣️

[hazy kestrel]

I believe that’s true

[final herald]

With the way they phrase things

[ocean widget]

its me saying i shoot them
very hard
with a shotgun

[final herald]

WANT EM CRISPY????????? is so fucking funny

[ocean widget]

probably

[round mica]

that’s incredibly based

ALSO

[hazy kestrel]

Scab flamers should have a “Kiss the Chef” apron, change my mind.

[round mica]

remember the convo we had about black metal artists

[ocean widget]

yeah it is @round mica

[round mica]

based as fuck man

[ocean widget]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vildhjarta
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm14296697/

theres the band and the vocalists imdb

prog metal

[amber delta]

I would like to petition FS to add a new chainaxe mk that is slightly more interesting in its attack patterns than the current "all light attacks are sweep and all heavy are overhead, and the second mk is exactly that but in reverse" thank you

[ocean widget]

coming 2029

[thick coyote]

"Fuck you you wait 10 months for a mediocre weapon"

[round mica]

is chain axe finally good now

[hazy kestrel]

I cry.

[round mica]

now that you bring it up

[orchid skiff]

here's your chaintomahawk. shorter and with less good blessings

[round mica]

also if anybody guys enjoy melodic black metal mixed with dark country, i highly recommend the band wayfarer

it’s so damn good

[orchid skiff]

tf is dark country

[glossy bear]

Hello rejects

[orchid skiff]

africa ?

[final herald]

"God I wish the class they keep pushing towards guns gets a gun"

GOOD MORNING SUNSHINE HERE'S A...CLASS SPECIFIC SWORD!

[glossy bear]

Getting racist are we

[orchid skiff]

yes mentioning africa is racist

[amber delta]

it's decent, overshadowed by more meta choices but I like it

[upper citrus]

this is 40k

[glossy bear]

[glossy bear]

Truly

[shy sandal]

That's a continent

[upper citrus]

racism is the norm

[round mica]

https://open.spotify.com/track/26of8r3SO0GIrJqeaODzV5?si=cSw6VCAlRnmpySsKSuzylw&context=spotify%3Aartist%3A4HcBIH7pVbrRRwHnEqxpka

[orchid skiff]

you are fake news

[thick coyote]

Tbf
Vet needed a new melee
And still needs

[hazy kestrel]

It’s so OVER vet-bros!

[round mica]

absolutely fire

[thick coyote]

😭

[amber delta]

racism will continue until morale improves

[thick coyote]

Nuh uh

[glossy bear]

We got xeno, we got filthy knife ears, slaneesh and nurgle

[fading otter]

Hunt Showdown music

[thick coyote]

Ghost of Yotei released an hour ago

[drowsy lynx]

Racism 40,000

[orchid skiff]

ok that's dope

[upper citrus]

UHUHUHUHUH

[thick coyote]

Morale is already up

[final herald]

They did and do

The power falch...aint it

I was hoping some something more like a power fist

[round mica]

tellin you man, check that song out that i linked

[shy sandal]

Peak showdown mentioned

[amber delta]

power fist x bolt pistol combo 🗣️

[minor narwhal]

pfalchion is nice but its just cooler power sword

[glossy bear]

40.000 years of racism sounds like the great start of a manga lol

[round mica]

their discography is insane

[final herald]

• worse relic blade

[orchid skiff]

don't have spotify

[thick coyote]

*worse

[minor narwhal]

im not using hte psword i dont care how strong it is

[hazy kestrel]

Ah yes, thank you FS for a power sword reskin. Very cool

[glossy bear]

Use soundcloud

[final herald]

• relic blade reskin

[round mica]

look up the band wayfarer on youtube, and listen to any of the songs from their recent album “ american gothic “

[orchid skiff]

it's either on youtube or it doesn't exist

[thick coyote]

So we both agree Midchion is worse
That's all that matters

[fair bridge]

wtf......

[amber delta]

idc if falchion is worse than psword, ill use it for the sole reason I dont have to mash activation button every 2 swings

[minor narwhal]

worse meta wise yes but DEAR god psword is boring

[glossy bear]

Soundcloud has remix you havent heard off, plus is free and no ads and you dont have to pay for anything

[fair bridge]

i get a discount on spotify for being a student

[final herald]

Just give powerfist grrr

[shy sandal]

Mfs be looking at a lost relic weapon made by Vulkan himself and saying "It is suboptimal compared to my poop scratcher 3000" 🤓

[fair bridge]

soundcloud has a shitload of ads wdym

[orchid skiff]

i don't want remixes

[amber delta]

meta this meta that have you ever meta girl

[orchid skiff]

i'm an original individual

i deserve original stuff

[hazy kestrel]

I’m so tired vet-bros. I NEED the heavy mg that is LITERALLY IN THE CLASS ART!

[orchid skiff]

I DEMAND ORIGINAL

[thick coyote]

I really hope a power fist would be a dedicated melee weapon
And not a duel wielding abomination

[glossy bear]

I never get ads AHAHAHHAA
AND I dont have premium

[final herald]

The power falchion isn't particularly rare though

[glossy bear]

[final herald]

Lorewise its "powersword but curved"

[fair bridge]

curved swords

[final herald]

Gameplay wise its "relicblade but worse"

[minor narwhal]

dude we have the relic blade the power falchion is liike a 3.99 purchase compared to that

[fair bridge]

curved swords

[glossy bear]

Using the app or the web?

[orchid skiff]

i don't understand what dark country is

[shy sandal]

It's a powered pirate sword, you fun police

[minor narwhal]

not pirate enough

[final herald]

Im not the one policing fun numbnuts

[orchid skiff]

i thought there'd be some country tune while the guy sings about women or some shit

[final herald]

Its just boring and doesn't do anything good

[glossy bear]

Yarrrs in megabytes

[fair bridge]

the app because when i want to listen to soundcloud it's when i'm driving not in the comfort of my home where these shitty remixes can pollute my air

[final herald]

I think like, psyker or zealot could have done better with it

[round mica]

usually just the tone of music

not the lyrics

[thick coyote]

It's a bit bulky and why is the mastery skin the worse model one

[minor narwhal]

arbites meeting megabytes 😨

[thick coyote]

[civic otter]

jog my memory if ye will, i don't remember much

[glossy bear]

Lol

I never get ads, the emperor has blessed my spirit machine

[round mica]

well, we were just talking about metal bands in general and we talked about how good bolt thrower is

[fair bridge]

throw this bolt bitch 🖕

[shy sandal]

It cleaves hordes like crazy... Like, really well

[glossy bear]

Lol

[final herald]

Okay

[civic otter]

we did? well yes, they're one of my favorites. a unique take indeed on old school death metal

[round mica]

but the point of me brining it up is we talked about black metal last, and i found a melodic black metal band that also uses dark country elements you may like, the band is called wayfarer

[final herald]

Why are you telling me these things

[glossy bear]

Why not

[fair bridge]

i need to use the new falchion more

[final herald]

I still don't like it and I have other tools to do that

[fair bridge]

i've been fucking around with the shovel for days

[final herald]

Shovel chad

[shy sandal]

You're sharing your opinion, only fair i share mine

[round mica]

you said you enjoy unique bands, and wayfarer is very unique lmao

[hazy kestrel]

So does the existing power sword pal. You just get carpal tunnel from using it

[fair bridge]

the hatred people share for kriegsman larpers just makes me want to larp more

[final herald]

Its a very underwhelming addition to the sandbox esspecially in the face of asking for the datamined gun options for vets

[civic otter]

tbh i only use it because it fits astra militarum very well, but for any functional purposes i'd still be playing power sword

[shy sandal]

Psword is a giant popsickle and i am sick of it. The toothpick dueling sword is also lame

[final herald]

I like using the heavy sword

[civic otter]

i'll give em a listen, but know that i am a little picky/biased in black metal so i'll see

[minor narwhal]

vet is the only class that has no 2 handed options to the point that i thought they'd be the 4th class to get a 2handed but noooo i guess they'll be the hecking 5th now

[round mica]

i think you’ll enjoy it

two songs i recommend are cattle thief and high plains eulogy

[hazy kestrel]

All the devs had to do, was update the power sword with the relic blade’s mechanic. We could have had an actually unique melee or—heaven forbid—an actual gun for the gun focused class.

[final herald]

I need to try chain weapons again

[round mica]

chainsword is absolutely busted

[edgy owl]

Xbox just increased the cost of gamepass to 30$

I’m gonna cancel it, so I won’t be able to play for a while chat 😔✌️

[shy sandal]

I'm just glad i have something else to use to be honest, and i feel the falchion is overhated because people were expecting powerfist or something more wacky

[hazy kestrel]

But here we are, with a power sword reskin and some bolter variants

10 months, for this.

[shy sandal]

Heavy sword is good

[final herald]

People were expecting anything except for "worse relic blade lol"

[minor narwhal]

the problem with pfalchion is that psword rework coulda happened instead

and it'd be like the sameish thing specially with a skin

[fair bridge]

waaattt

[shy sandal]

I can't argue with that

[edgy owl]

I thought it was pretty good

[round mica]

it’s dueling sword levels of insane bro

[fair bridge]

wat do u meeeeeen

[civic otter]

chainsword is unironically pretty good now. running MkIV feels that much better

[round mica]

you will not do this to me

[edgy owl]

Like it’s not the relic blade level good, but still

[fair bridge]

i haven't tried the new one yet so i genuinely do not know

[fair bridge]

waow

i'll play it sometime

[amber delta]

chainsword supremacy

[round mica]

the mk XIIIg is insane

[civic otter]

it is 40k.

[final herald]

I think p sword should have the special button be powered light attacks but if you activate it during a heavy it turns the heavy into a powered heavy

[civic otter]

[fair bridge]

did they boost cleave or something

[amber delta]

struggles with crushers somewhat, but not every weapon can be DS

[fair bridge]

i remember they improved the special

[round mica]

i think they just boosted everything

[shy sandal]

Down with the toothpick

[final herald]

Everything that struggles with crushers is indicative, to me, of crushers being an issue

This is why psykers are great cause they have multiple weapons that can deal with crushers pretty easily outside of DS

[round mica]

i’m running a shout vet with WS using double barrel shotty and chainsword

i am godly

the damage i shit out is absurd

[final herald]

bfs, bfgs, etc
You can use shock maul on vet too (you should use shock maul)

Shock maul love

[round mica]

also not to mention i have now have 230 toughness as vet

[shy sandal]

I barely use melee with Psyker unless i have to deal with a crusher

[final herald]

Id say you are missing out lol

They are really good at it

[minor narwhal]

i barely use guns on psyker unless i have to deal with a sniper

[final herald]

And they got really good now

[subtle silo]

Krak grenades are underrated

[final herald]

*are buffed to finally be passable

[civic otter]

i did enjoy cattle thief. i feel like for my specific tastes in black metal, they come fairly close so it is pretty good

this lol

3 kraks made nade gen viable to them, helped a lot

[round mica]

try the song “ to enter my house justified “

[shy sandal]

I want to try melee psyker with the greatsword once but Void staff is just really fun to use

[round mica]

that has a much more classic black metal feel

[final herald]

Use both

[subtle silo]

Yay?

[final herald]

Psyker is just as versatile with weapons as any other class

[civic otter]

use both, my favorite build is EK staff and force gs

[glossy bear]

Hmm chat looks boring
Goin back to watching jojo stardust crusaders

[minor narwhal]

psyker doesnt get obliterated upon being hit by a single groaner now so its nice

[final herald]

Bfs is fun and you can get some goofy combos with it

Bfgs is genuinely the most fun melee in the game imo even without the sweep

[shy sandal]

How do i toughness regen though? (Serious question psyker is my least played class)

[glossy bear]

@blissful kiln you suck

[minor narwhal]

stab someone and u get like 15%

[final herald]

All of it is accessible at the top of the tree now

[minor narwhal]

with the basically entirely new melee toughness talent

[shy sandal]

I see

[final herald]

You get toughness by basically existing, critting, building peril, losing peril

[glossy bear]

@blissful kiln Hamon overdrive

Die filthy nurgle

[blissful kiln]

Ham on deez nuts

[final herald]

Scriers basically gens peril for you and then killing shit also gens toughness and quells peril

[hazy kestrel]

[glossy bear]

vanishes

[final herald]

So you are just always generating toughness

Its part of why I like exe stance

I wish yhere was some toughness dr on exe stance but thats here nor there

Cap the bonus to "while under 75%" to avoid vet being an ungodly tank

[shy sandal]

Scrier's seem very strong but also very boring to use.

[final herald]

Nah

Its pretty active

All of the talents on psyker are pretty much "in the same place" to me

Vent being very slightly weaker

Well, much weaker, but like

[shy sandal]

I like venting for the voicelines

[final herald]

Vent has actual usecases and builds

Which is something shit like glugger oggy or stealth vet can't claim

3/3 useful abilities > 2/3

[minor narwhal]

vet stealth and zealot stealth are still nearly the same ability lamo

[final herald]

Nah

The finesse bonuses to zealot and the specific cooldown bonuses you get

Are what makes stealth zealot less of a dogshit pick

[shy sandal]

Stealth vet is fun until you realize stealth zealot exists and they can obliterate things with a comically large hammer

[minor narwhal]

yeah on zealot stealth makes sense

on vet uh hecking remove it

[final herald]

I get vet players having "fun" with it but unironically just put a "shoot a cool gun" ability there

Heavy weapon or smth

[minor narwhal]

vet pulls a multimelta

[final herald]

Long las variant node
Melta variant node
Volleygun variant node

And the base is just like

A heavy stubber

[minor narwhal]

add a melee variant too

[final herald]

Sure yeah powerfist node

[minor narwhal]

idk what heckin melee they'd have thats strong for a hit

[final herald]

Powerfist easily

[minor narwhal]

powerfist is one but i feel like that can just b like a full weapon

[final herald]

Sure but so can those other weapons

Just brainatorming a way to incorporate them in a strong way

[minor narwhal]

true.....

[final herald]

Atm though only 2 classes get "3rd weapon"

Psyker and arbites

But arbites kind of cheats to do it

The precedence is there though, just, those weapons are also blitzes instead of "abilities"

[blissful kiln]

you forget zealot

[minor narwhal]

kinda want like a saltzpyre BLESS THIS SHOT ability for vet

[final herald]

Wym

[minor narwhal]

they just need to find the biggest mostt powerful bistol

[final herald]

Zealot knives are just oggy rock to me

[minor narwhal]

god im finally free from zealot knives with rework

[final herald]

Agreed

[round mica]

the game is what we call, in a decent spot now

funny how darktide is more playable and enjoyable as helldivers 2 is starting to re enter the pre 60 day plan era again

[minor narwhal]

yeah they can finally start focusing content

[hearty laurel]

i have one question: where relic blade cosmetics? its like only one weapon without any commodore vestures cosmetics

[minor narwhal]

hd2 really hasnt changed much since launch

they added attachments which is a start i guess

[round mica]

that’s.. a bit of a stretch but i can see how you think that

[minor narwhal]

idk dt has changed so much with so many reworks and hd2 has had like just attachments

[final herald]

I want my damn vehicles man

[somber stream]

t0nk

[final herald]

Hi lick

I mean licht

[somber stream]

Hi moeb

APC Soon™

[round mica]

there’s a lot more then just attachments, most of the changes to HD2 are stuff you don’t visually see

[vernal flume]

Honestly I think most of the work has gone into maps so far. But yeah besides that we got a taste of better things and had it violently ripped away. A sad day indeed.

[minor narwhal]

idk it kinda just plays the same and the buildcrafting is uh barely there

[round mica]

i feel like darktide and hd2 are trading back and forth now, “ hey you guys did good with your update, now we will lay back and wait until it’s our turn to cook again “

[iron otter]

Hey does anyone else have stuttering when turning rapidly back and forth(left and right) with a plugged in controller since lastest patch?

[round mica]

i mean brother helldivers isn’t a build crafting game man

[minor narwhal]

yeah but idk ship modules are there and could be that

it'd be something actually cool

[final herald]

Hd2 traded pace for any amount of quality control

[somber stream]

Stuttering has been a thing with controllers since the recent update, yes

M&K time

[round mica]

helldivers 2 is the kinda game you play with the boys when you wanna just relax and enjoy the meme known as the military industrial complex

[iron otter]

Oh, so it isn't just me, thank you for the info, wonder how that even happened anyways

[minor narwhal]

ehhh i'd rathjer just play smth with more to it

[fair bridge]

i still wanna play dt with motion controls

or a steering wheel

good shit

[orchid skiff]

Control these nuts.

[iron otter]

If your controller has gyro just use steam input

[round mica]

if you play helldivers to be a try hard or be sweaty, just play darktide

shrimple

[minor narwhal]

i also would rather play dt with friends cause this gmae has some hilarious chaos

[somber stream]

[minor narwhal]

i just dont think hd2 does anything particularly great other than the war part

[round mica]

any game is better with friends, until it’s a friend slop game

[orchid skiff]

I am in the bath with a pizza. Do NOT contact me

[round mica]

i hate friendslop games

[minor narwhal]

friendslop is funny

[final herald]

I like freindslop

[round mica]

i guess hate is a strong word

i just dislike them

[final herald]

But I tend to consider them strongly before bothering with them

I like void crew the most of that genre

I wish it got more dev time put in but cest la vie

[minor narwhal]

i tried voidcrew but i think i'd rather just play barotrauma

[round mica]

the only friend slop i games i enjoyed when they came out were peak, and among us

[final herald]

Format of barotrauma is not my cup of tea

[somber stream]

I played the one with space junks

[round mica]

those actually brought some insanely funny moments

[minor narwhal]

barotrauma is just so peak with how much chaos it has

[final herald]

At that point I would rather just play SS13 lol

[minor narwhal]

perfectly calm nothing happening to ship sinking and 20 mudraptors in your ship within 10s

[tender horizon]

Barotrauma interests me heavily but it seems like a game you need friends for

[minor narwhal]

you can solo but its best with friends

[analog marsh]

You can just play with randoms, it's very chaotic that way.

[round mica]

i tried playing phasmophobia but my god playing it with randoms is cursed

[tender horizon]

Don't like playing with randoms when I'm learning things cause I find people often forget what its like to be new to something.

I also dont like when randoms are too good and they carry you lol

You don't learn anything

[tired inlet]

besides the illuminate, the added enemies (shriekers, gloom chargers, hive titans, roaches/heavy devastators, gunships, flame devastators, jetpack automatons), about 15 more warbonds of weapons, armor types/bonuses, vehicles, emote wheels, the democracy station, and objectives?

[minor narwhal]

i mean content is fine but the core is basically the same

[tender horizon]

^

Imma be honest I havent cared about a warbond post Viper Commandos

The quality has seriously tapered off

[round mica]

the newest warbond is quite good

[tired inlet]

The AK-74u on the dust devils is neat; medium AP, incindiary rounds

a lot of people fell in love with it

[round mica]

the gas harpoon is wild

[final herald]

Thats not a fucking ak74

[tired inlet]

it's the closest to it Helldivers will ever get

[final herald]

Closer to an stg44 than anything else

Every fucking thing with a visible gas system is "an ak" to people

[round mica]

i call it the space-k47

[final herald]

The receiver is not even remotely the same

God

[tender horizon]

Reminds me of a scar ngl

[minor narwhal]

im gonna be fr i havent even looked at the assault rifles they're so eepy

[amber delta]

weapon is a great allrounder and a cut above most other ARs
people like it
truly a mystery why

[final herald]

People were yelling that the fucking paci was an ak

[minor narwhal]

most of them are the same weapon

[fading otter]

Tenderizer fun as hell

[upper citrus]

what exactly is friendslop? shit like lethal company?

[minor narwhal]

yea

[upper citrus]

mmhm

i like friendslop

[minor narwhal]

its not really a proper defined term but it is funny

[round mica]

the halo rifle sounds meaty and is fun

[round mica]

pretty much

[analog marsh]

speaking of ak's, soon the Kingmakers game will release and then I can gun down some medieval knights with an ak.

[elder merlin]

[amber delta]

lethal company, peak, liar's bar, all the cheap low effort coop games that exist in order to attain recognition through streamers playing it with friends

[elder merlin]

Godbreakers is coming to console soon, that looked like a neat coop game

[final herald]

Most of those are just small projects that got big

Not streamer bait

[tired inlet]

The bullpup one (tenderizer) is good vs. bots (I'm biased to bullpup designs though); and with the modification system the medium AP Adjudicator absolutely fucks with a barrel handle helping people control it's recoil better.

[round mica]

i can’t wait to go home and chug a tall glass of whole milk

[minor narwhal]

idk they kinda just shoot bullet i like more gimmicky stuff

just stat changes is like eh

[amber delta]

streamer bait are the games that are made in wake of the OGs popularity

[final herald]

Lethal is the product of a roblox dev stepping out of roblox finally

Peak is literal a gamesjam game and the devs got upset that it was populat

[clever horizon]

psyker CANNOT one shot mutants anymore with dueling swords

[amber delta]

what's the lethal company friendslop clone

[clever horizon]

but he can BRAIN BURST them now

[amber delta]

with that ugly emoji face

[minor narwhal]

why not

[fading otter]

Tendy fucks on illuminate too, shreds an overseer’s leg for an instakill in like 1/3 of a mag which takes like 1.5 seconds on high RoF

[amber delta]

REPO?

[upper citrus]

repo yeah

[final herald]

Idk repo's story but I am not the biggest fan of it

Its boring

Its not even remotely scary

[amber delta]

yeah thats textbook friendslop

[little marten]

So ends another working day

[clever horizon]

fatshark hates him

[upper citrus]

is just another lethal company clone

[minor narwhal]

repo is funny but it gets a little repetitive

[round mica]

i think the laziest friendslop game is thst stupid ass chained together game that’s nothing but a roblox obby

[minor narwhal]

im gonna be fr psyker does more melee dmg now it should be quite doable

[tired inlet]

Also the Liberator Penetrator, which had been regarded as an anti-bot weapon only gets turned into a very useful medium range assault rifle with some modifications; medium AP makes it an all-rounder.

[final herald]

I still find it funny that the devs of peak made a crab darksouls game

[minor narwhal]

its kinda sad that the crab game wasnt as popular

[final herald]

And then made peak just for gamesjam in like a month

[clever horizon]

fatshark loves him

[final herald]

And that proved infinitely more appealing

[little marten]

Peak seems like a bait game

[upper citrus]

i find it funny the author of the crab rave song made the crab roguelike

[elder merlin]

That the one where you keep replacing your shell and whatnot?

[tired inlet]

I've been playing with the stun rifle "the Pacifier" and it is decent against bots.

[final herald]

I think so

[minor narwhal]

crab champions is pretty good

[upper citrus]

its ok for what it is

[minor narwhal]

yeah

it has a good beta reworking all maps rn

thats gonna be fun to try out

[tired inlet]

and Barotrauma is an extension of Space Station 13.

[final herald]

More or less

Doesn't stop me from vastly prefering ss13 over it

[little marten]

Damn I haven’t played ss13 in ages

[tired inlet]

I miss being in a high population server of like 120+ people

[minor narwhal]

idk im a massive barotrauma enjoyer that game is so peak

[final herald]

Only thing that gets me not playing ss13 is that so many communities for it are now just

Boring

[little marten]

Colonial marines server peak wake up spend 5 minutes having a cigarette without burning your marines face off then dying 60 seconds into deployment

[tender horizon]

The horror elements of barotrauma seem cool+I like the ocean

[minor narwhal]

baro can be pretty scary sometimes

[tired inlet]

I heard some server communities got hacked / DDoS'd -- like Paradise Station -- and their numbers never recovered.

[tired inlet]

as someone who was a professional Sailor for 8 years, the ocean is a beautiful and terrifying place. Avoid it.

[minor narwhal]

when you're outside alone with little light and there can just be like a hecking moloch or something to maul you its crazy

[little marten]

Got stood up by a mermaid

[final herald]

A...lot has happened.

A lot of communities have been progressively shitting on antags too

It just isn't the same without them

[tender horizon]

Like diving tbh, find peace in coexistence with one of the most hostile places on earth. Serenely beautiful, can kill you very fast.

[tired inlet]

I played a few rounds in August just to see how things are on Paradise Station and a goon server and it's like 40-50 people and there just isn't enough to staff the station.