general-chat

[nocturne flicker]

yeah. i just think the initial ragging on the inquisition when the arbites update dropped felt insulting considering the spot we've put wolfer in

[astral basin]

Whos the bitch ass spider/inquisitor dude that keeps undermining morrow and trying to get zola killed?

[white vale]

Honestly I think I will just base my game's interrogator on Rannick when I go back to running Dark Heresy for my friends

[nocturne flicker]

although i'm still convinced wolfer is not the leader of the 6th

merely a figurehead for a higher up, like colonel gortun, or a major

[sharp rose]

Just saying the 6th needed a commissar

[final herald]

Wolfer is iirc but admonition has been around longer and is the entity "calling the shots"

[sharp rose]

And we haven't seen one yet

[astral basin]

Wolfer was the leader of the 6th
But he was a puppet of the cult

[nocturne flicker]

Magsen. Wolfer shot him

[final herald]

The 6th's commisar is very dead

Very

Very dead

[sharp rose]

Nothing really stays dead with nurgle tbf

[astral basin]

They had one. Wolfer killed him.

[white vale]

We have in that cutscene

They got his ass

[sharp rose]

This is a fair point though I forgot about him

[nocturne flicker]

I don't think he was actually the leader, unless Gortun and the Majors all got assassinated or something and he was elevated by the cult. that could make sense but the Cult don't seem to respect Wolfer enough as a true leader of the Regiment

[sharp rose]

They kinda treat him like a dog

And none of them seem to consider him very tactically inclined

[final herald]

I just hope admonition are hereteks

[sharp rose]

Tbf having maggots in the brain will do that to you

[final herald]

Or at least, the leaders

[nocturne flicker]

There's a base for this, although a very shaky one.

[white vale]

Wolfer keeps getting violently mogged by squads of 4 morons at a time

[nocturne flicker]

Like atm it's VERY grain of salt

[final herald]

Im mostly going off of how even hadron and kayex are like

"Damn they're doing pretty good on technology, the 6th didn't make this at all"

[sharp rose]

Dark mech on a hive world isn't very common

[nocturne flicker]

if my underling's men and leftenants were being butchered by 4 people on the regular i'd get a bit snippy at him too 😉

[sharp rose]

Also I think we would have seen some forge fiends by now if the hereteks were involved

[final herald]

A rogue magos biologis would fit perfectly imo

[white vale]

Their plasma is kind of a giveaway. Existing plasma weapons don't start glowing orange just because of warp corruption, heretic plasma guns use a different energy source altogether

[nocturne flicker]

It all depends on juuust how DEEP this goes, though. Tertium could be a blip amongst the plans of the ruinous powers in this play

[final herald]

They are pretty keen on not revealing their hands rn

[sharp rose]

I mean we still no next to nothing about the actual darktide

[white vale]

Not could, is. The galaxy's fucking huge

[sharp rose]

The one that the 6th fought against

[wooden creek]

The darktide is just an umbrella term for enemies on the fringe

[final herald]

"Darktide" is a catch-all yeah

[nocturne flicker]

exactly. nox alpha for one and that's one of many

[nocturne flicker]

i mean specific for nurgle's plans in this area

[final herald]

They are fighting everything out on the fringe

[wooden creek]

rebels, xenos etc.

[sharp rose]

I'm aware my point being they didn't just suddenly stop when the 6th fell

[obtuse oak]

this doesn't jive with what we've seen from them so far. they're a chaos cult, priests, witches, that sort of thing.

[stuck wasp]

Don't think the Fringe war will feature in DT

[nocturne flicker]

like i could see the darkmech taking an interest in tertium if there was a greater plan than just "we want atoma prime to be big nurgle planet"

[astral basin]

Wolfer was the commanding officer of the 6th, or at least became it.
Anyone above him believed they were dead I think? Don’t remember.
The cult kind of just. Enveloped wolfer. Allowed him to get their people in, take strategic command.
Then the emperors favorite rejects wrecked their faith in him so now hes just a puppet that we hope to fight as a budding demon prince

[final herald]

We know that:
Admonition can produce all manner of lesser daemon
Admonition can manufacture guns and knows what to do with refineries
Admonition can augment people and produce body/mind altering stims
In fact, someone in charge autmented the karnak twins, specifically Rinda.

[sharp rose]

I think the most likely furthering of that is the possibility of gene stealers

[stuck wasp]

The only tech feats are mostly summoned from Nurgle (Corruptor, Miasmic Malignifier)

[wooden creek]

The 6th were hardly the only moebian regiment out in the fringe wars

[final herald]

^

Every moebian regiment takes part in them

[sharp rose]

Valid point

[final herald]

The only reason the 53rd is even helping rn is because they came back for supplies and were like

"Wtf"

[wooden creek]

Nah, the 53rd were transferred at the request of Lord Margrave, the 21st were the boys on resupply

[nocturne flicker]

Colonel Gortun's status is unknown to us, and he's the leader as of when Wolfer turned. He was apparently seen a lot with unusual and creepy priests towards the fall of the 6th, and these could've been admonition cultists. He might just be in hiding to keep the Inquisition thinking this is a captain gone rogue for as long as he can

[wooden creek]

And then got requisitioned by Rannick

[stuck wasp]

Stubber and Autogun are produced on the regular in Hives

[sharp rose]

Who then got zombified

[obtuse oak]

Wolfer as a budding Daemon Prince? That would surprise me, I think he's very far off so illustrious a station

[stuck wasp]

The prologue mission imply that Wolfer was taken outside of Atoma iirc
Which could point to him remaining a favoured captain of the 6th

[final herald]

Im mostly talking abt whoever is in charge
I think a magos biologis would fit very nicely as someone who went the nurgle route and systematically spread the rot god's influence

[sharp rose]

No way wolfer becomes a prince

If anything rinda has a better shot

[nocturne flicker]

If anyone here is Darkmech's it's PROBABLY Urmal, but there's also other ways she could be in this field of experimenting on people

[wooden creek]

Not all of them, but most of them probably. You still see them in cutscenes and mission areas here and there

[final herald]

URMAL

Thats her name

That chick

Thing

Creature

[astral basin]

I desperately want gene-stealer cult
Idc if its discovered that atoma was afflicted with it even before the dregs took root.
Theyre coming out of the sewers now, and are fighting for dominance.

[nocturne flicker]

watch her next boss fight end up being like that one norscan who i forgot the name of in vt2. just turns into a chaos spawn for round 2

[final herald]

I don't personally care for genestealers 😭

[sharp rose]

Oh that guy yea

Hopefully she becomes a plague bearer

[wooden creek]

The darktide extraction book has a rogue magos biologis doing heretek stuff, but it feels like spinoff stuff is pretty isolated from the game proper

[sharp rose]

She does use a sword after all

[nocturne flicker]

mythical goon material pull

[nocturne flicker]

plaguebearer with a relic blade 😬

[sharp rose]

Bro might have fallen to slanesh

[sharp rose]

I'm gonna cry

Can't wait for rodin to come back as a nurgling

[stuck wasp]

ANd somewhat non-cannon since FS nor Abnett/Ward are even hinted at being involved

[nocturne flicker]

this would be a funny nod to jo's theory that they were trying to summon a great unclean one

[final herald]

Jo watchers fall into 2 camps

1: sane

[sharp rose]

A great unclean one would basically make the entire planet a virus bomb

[final herald]

2: PLAGUE MARINE TERMINATORS ARE COMING!!!1!

[nocturne flicker]

i deal drugs with her behind walmart. i'm the mike to her walt

trust

[stuck wasp]

||Which we know they weren't||
||The dev blog mentioned that it was to revive and empower Rodin||

[sharp rose]

We no diff plague terminators

Trust

[sharp rose]

Was that rodin on the crucifix thing or rinda

[nocturne flicker]

yes, but the nurgling idea is a funny nod to her craziness

[sharp rose]

I forget

[nocturne flicker]

rodin

[obtuse oak]

I think it's cute that Rinda switched sides in an attempt to revive her brother.

[final herald]

Urmal is really into the whole sibling bond thing (she saw andy and leyley fanart)

[sharp rose]

Isn't rinda maybe still alive

With the twitchy fingers

[final herald]

"Maybe"

Yes

She shows up in a patch cutscene after that

[obtuse oak]

She's confirmed alive and a Herald of Admonition

She joined the cult

[sharp rose]

She's clearly ok because she keeps fucking me to death in havocs

[nocturne flicker]

out of character or is she just tsundere? if you kill rodin first she just sorta belittles him and laughs it off. then you smash her face in ofc

[nocturne flicker]

Whatever the Herald of Admonition entails. She's probably not gonna turn into something very pretty, though. It's Nurgle

[wooden creek]

She has a journal entry on the official website that's more favorable to rodin

[final herald]

She's probably just a twat but no one wants to lose their family

[stuck wasp]

I hope the rift that seem to form between the Scab and Dreg will enable them to turn the Scab more "Undivided", and open the door for other cults to vie for power

[stoic dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBMdqqg5pT0 i'd like to report this slenishi propaganda

[arctic escarp]

THE RAPTURE RAAAAAAH

[nocturne flicker]

Idk does my Dad's wife count as family?

[obtuse oak]

I don't think it means she's transforming into anything. A Herald is an announcer, a speaker.

[arctic escarp]

[obtuse oak]

It'll be a rank in their organisation.

[final herald]

Urmal can do augments btw

[nocturne flicker]

Not the rank itself, but what Urmal did to her

Urmal did SOMETHING to Rinda according to those I think now-privated vox transmissions. implanted some "gifts" into her

during the reviving process. and that those gifts would need time to develop properly

... and bc it's nurgle that's almost certainly indicating she's gonna get even grosser

some body horror stuff or maybe daemonic ascension

[final herald]

What if she just unlocks green mode

[nocturne flicker]

i'll send you elves

[sharp rose]

Possible she's arrogant and assumes she would kill us and then they would revive him the same way they tried to

[nocturne flicker]

what was the term fulgrim used?

[nocturne flicker]

Apotheosis?

I think that's a cool word for ascension to daemonhood fr

[nocturne flicker]

maybe, although this hinges on her having prior knowledge of those programs

[sharp rose]

I mean i feel like assuming the guy who's soldiers take death as more of a suggestion could revive someone isn't exactly unreasonable

[stuck wasp]

Well we say revive, but surely switching a soul wouldn't be an issue right

[sharp rose]

Making him a possessed would make sense

[fair bridge]

lol arrowhead just made an announcement in the hd2 discord that they're working on fixing all the issues with the game

why couldn't fatshark do that months ago

interesting!!

[sharp rose]

Fatshark has less money

[fair bridge]

#nooticing

[nocturne flicker]

BALANCE PASS ANNOUNCED RAHHH. maybe the halo stuff will be half-decent then

[fair bridge]

the halo stuff is peak

the issues they're talking about are concerned with performance

audio issues specifically

it's in hd2 announcements

[hard crane]

halo stuff would be peak if only I didn’t have to spend 1.5k SC and get 0 SC back on purchase

[nocturne flicker]

that's a given. we all know ts is needing attention 😉

[sharp rose]

This sub really just turns into a hell divers sub randomly huh?

Server* I spend too much time on Reddit fuck

[fair bridge]

"this sub" dude

[nocturne flicker]

yeah helldivers is starting to get some of that darktide enemy spam audio bug stuff. although this darktide update is a step on the right path to fixing that

[sharp rose]

I know I know

[fair bridge]

that's warbonds for you

[hard crane]

at least regular warbonds gave 300 back

[fair bridge]

oh yeah i forgot about that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

SC grinding is a thing and warp pack made it way easier

[nocturne flicker]

i love warp pack so much

[hard crane]

Yea grinding easy but real boring

[fair bridge]

plus i mean getting SC through normal gameplay is easy

[nocturne flicker]

ts saved the lives of certain laser builds

bile titan wanna throw up on me? h-h-hell naw

[fair bridge]

omg u have the same tag as my mental facility handler @orchid skiff

[nocturne flicker]

i just teleport and keep focusing that laser beam on they shi

[hard crane]

I may or may not have stolen it from said person

mili is peak

[fair bridge]

hover pack + flamethrower is fun

i like flying up to titans and killing them with it in less than 5 seconds

[nocturne flicker]

cheeky

[somber stream]

So no operation health

[amber delta]

I can't wait for the fix update to fix 10 minor things while keeping biggest longest standing problems unresolved

[somber stream]

Alright, hopefully a proper communication channel instead

[fair bridge]

it's ironic that helldivers 2 gets talked about so much in this server since both darktide and hd2 run on the same engine

[orchid skiff]

can't have shit in paris

[fading otter]

Literally every time I’ve tried that it hasn’t gone well lol if you move like at all while you’re shooting flames you just self ignite and then have no way to dive and put yourself out lol

[hard crane]

oh hi I won’t be returning the tag

[fading otter]

Unless they fixed that since I tried

[hard crane]

it’s mine now

[nocturne flicker]

and it shows

[obtuse oak]

They also use the same developers

[orchid skiff]

[fair bridge]

wear the firefighter gear

[obtuse oak]

The voteless hordes were made by former FS devs

For example

[fair bridge]

sweet!

[somber stream]

And they hired Tech head of FS just April this year

[nocturne flicker]

obv we dodged a bullet in darktide or smth bc the melee combat in helldivers is meme-tier on anything but illuminate

illuminate i can justify using a stun melee weapon or smth for making room from overseers bc they're bastards

[hard crane]

The fact the only thing really keeping melee alive was that it ignores breakable armor

[fair bridge]

could you imagine if they actually went in on melee combat

that would be peak........

[orchid skiff]

there's an exploit to speed up melee by like 500% and it's still trash

[final herald]

Its over for you

[orchid skiff]

gj arrowhead

[hard crane]

We love animation canceling!!!

[fading otter]

I’d kill for a Super Earth Halberd

[fair bridge]

i will make pork and rice today

[somber stream]

What kind

[nocturne flicker]

thanks dude i just ruined my mouse and keyboard with my nuhh

[somber stream]

Braised?

[nocturne flicker]

super earth lucerne hammer 😳

[fair bridge]

unsure, am checking recipes

[somber stream]

Braised pork is based

Chinese one, Vietnamese works too, but sweeter

[fair bridge]

i made steak and rice last night with a cheap cut of flat iron steak but it wasn't ideal

[arctic escarp]

do it

[nocturne flicker]

slow-cooked pork in homemade sweet and sour sauce

🤤

[fading otter]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-gif-6315516824205245833

[nocturne flicker]

i love my mamma's cooking

[somber stream]

I could do without the sour, but sounds good!

[fair bridge]

i'm gonna use thin-cut pork chops with the goal of slicing them into strips that get coated in the rice

at some point i want to try and make tonkatsu

[nocturne flicker]

what kinda sauce?

[fair bridge]

but that's a different thing entirely

[somber stream]

Tonkatsu is easy

[nocturne flicker]

tonkatsu's good i fw it

[somber stream]

It's like Schnitzel but pork

[fair bridge]

whatever i deglaze off the bottom of the pan and turn into a roux

[nocturne flicker]

well it's not like sour sour. your face won't shrivel up. it's just to add a nuanced flavour to the palate

[somber stream]

Proper

[fair bridge]

apparently my bf doesn't fw pork and i can't figure out why

[somber stream]

Do you guys use fish sauce?

[nocturne flicker]

Yes. In a lot of dishes

[somber stream]

About 15 years back and people would call you a hippie

[nocturne flicker]

Fish sauce is one of mankind's greatest inventions, it's been with us for a long time

[hasty sky]

It feels kind of amazing and horrible at the same time seeing how many old character banter topics have been fixed now

[nocturne flicker]

Those people don't know the history of fish sauce!

[hasty sky]

a LOT of stuff I thought were one liners turned out to be full conversations

[somber stream]

It add a lot of depth to your dishes, that's for certain

[nocturne flicker]

It's what was used in Italy before tomatoes were introduced, and it's still used

[somber stream]

Oh Garum?

[nocturne flicker]

Dates back to Ancient Greece, the Roman Republic, etc.

[somber stream]

Haven't tried that, i ever only had the Asian's

[stuck wasp]

HD2 isn't meant to be melee focused 🤷

[nocturne flicker]

That is what it was called yeah

[nocturne flicker]

yes and that's a great excuse for it to suck is it?

[stuck wasp]

Indeed

[orchid skiff]

why me

[somber stream]

Might need to get myself a bottle and give it a whirl

[nocturne flicker]

although on illuminates it's fine enough. since the dynamic actually manages to complement melee well enough

[somber stream]

Looks rather unrefined though

[final herald]

Helldivers 2 is not a very complex game in general

[somber stream]

In term of raw combat, yes

[nocturne flicker]

yeah i prefer darktide. more player control, less about attrition, more about skill expression

[somber stream]

Strategies in the future? Different story

[upper citrus]

I'm boutta rename my zealot ScottLang, that suit is fire

[final herald]

What

[final herald]

I like both

[somber stream]

New enemy types require different approach, also eviroment, indoor mission, boss fights etc etc

[final herald]

I can have stupid idiot moments in helldivers

[somber stream]

I heard a rumour about a raid mode as well

[nocturne flicker]

i enjoy helldivers as its own thing, but darktide is preferred since its niche is more fun to me

[final herald]

The myriad odd interactions do not add depth to me. Helldivers balance thrives solely on inconveniencing the player.

[gilded socket]

Put my brain in a blender

[nocturne flicker]

i can in darktide too. like when my finger slipped and i jumped into a crusher overhead instead of dodging away 😤

[somber stream]

Different game, different playstyle. You can enjoy both at the same time

[final herald]

That is also where most of the "comedy" stems from

[fair bridge]

clearly your massages aren't working

[nocturne flicker]

i can enjoy one more than another too

[somber stream]

That is certainly a choice

[final herald]

Darktide asks you to do things the "right" way

Helldivers 2 gives you a sandbox, shrugs, and says "good luck, we didn't test this either."

I side eye the 100% replicatable flag plant bug

[nocturne flicker]

it's not a choice. i don't enjoy things bc i want to, i just do

[final herald]

That crashed everyone to lobby

Lonby...

[stuck wasp]

Darktide is more niche, most people that love HD2 won't necessarily do DT

[somber stream]

You choose to open steam, you choose the game you want to play, and how long do you plan to play the thing

[final herald]

Imma be so real darktide made itself niche

[nocturne flicker]

like i have no real control over what makes me go 😊 vs what makes me go 🙁 and everything between

[stuck wasp]

And I say that as someone who come the other end of the ratio, full ranged games don't interest me at all.

[final herald]

It had such nice momentum when it released and spent all of it's good will

[nocturne flicker]

that means nothing to what we're talking about. i don't control that my brain likes darktide more than helldivers in any way shape or form. one just gives me more enjoyment than another overall, yet i play both bc i like them both

[stuck wasp]

Even if it had no problem on launch, it still would go back to niche cause the focus on melee is not the taste of everyone.
Even Vt2 when they released Chaos Waste went back to the standard numbers of players

[somber stream]

The lead technician for Darktide said they need at least another year to refine the game, back at launch

[final herald]

lol
Most people I introduce it to fuck with the melee combat heavy

[stuck wasp]

We had loads of people complaining before launch when FS said that melee would still be the priority of DT 🤷

[final herald]

Back then they stopped playing because of how the loot grind worked

[stuck wasp]

And loads left

[final herald]

I think you got a completely different view of things

[gilded socket]

Woof…

[little marten]

Jesus.. reading the helldivers patch announcement

[final herald]

But thats to be expected from you atp

[little marten]

We need to nuke everything and start again

[final herald]

The thing that keeps people from vermintide for example is the grind to endgame

[nocturne flicker]

not gonna happen i've invested too much of my time into corrupting you all

[gilded socket]

Why do bar mitzvas always look so lame

[final herald]

What

[little marten]

“We hear you gamers you’ve been loud and clear and deserve better!” Cringe

[nocturne flicker]

i've never been, but my aunt had a satanist wedding. ugh the food was to die for and her purple dress was ✨ stunning ✨

[final herald]

Do you know whats mainly been complained about in helldivers lately or

Is this a bit

[gilded socket]

I mean from like the music they play at bar mitzvas it just seems so boring

[little marten]

Patronising rhetoric but the feral creatures we’ve bred will sit on Reddit in their superman briefs will stop spamming their fists down and go “wow arrowhead saved they’ve acknowledged!!!!”

[nocturne flicker]

i shudder in fear of what helldiver's subreddit looks like

[orchid skiff]

i'm not strong enough

[nocturne flicker]

especially the salame

[somber stream]

Also who is Niklas and Lennart

[little marten]

I’m having a funny 5, rant over

[topaz flicker]

darktide crashing immediately for anyone else?

[stuck wasp]

Using mods ?

[hazy kestrel]

Might be your mods my guy (if ya run any)

[topaz flicker]

like i can get pass the loading screen and into the mourning star and while i'm tryin' to fiddle with my operative's stuff like his skill trees, game just crashes back to desktop

and i ain't usin' any mods

verifying integrity right now.

[hazy kestrel]

try a reinstall maybe? If that doesn’t work.

[gilded socket]

Skill issue

[round mica]

did they add dryhumping in helldivers 2 ?

[topaz flicker]

noticed there were new weapons added by the way, though it looks like it's only for veteran

also looks like a couple of 'em already existed if you ask me

[hazy kestrel]

Power falchion, still no stubber from the class art

I weep

[somber stream]

Did you get banned in their server

[little marten]

Does the falchion chop !

[round mica]

no why

i dont even play the game

games workshop has my money

and my life

and my wife

[somber stream]

Could always just join and get news oh-

[gilded socket]

Soon….

[somber stream]

Then why the fuc

[round mica]

someone was talking about hd2 above , sounded like bad news

the only bad news i could come up with in my mind that they added fortnite stuff to the game and its all in shambles

[somber stream]

Nothing bad, not great neither

[topaz flicker]

kinda wonderin' if psyker will ever receive any new weapons himself

[hazy kestrel]

Off topic, I love your profile picture Licht, very cool.

[amber delta]

hd2 discord ban speedrun any% (no n word)

[topaz flicker]

other that the force greatsword, that thing's awesome

[somber stream]

I like yours more! Very badass

[stuck wasp]

Vet got a weapon this time cause it didn't last round

[gilded socket]

They warned me for posting a kissing gif

[stuck wasp]

(Where we got the Master Sword for Psyker)

[amber delta]

was it tongue kissing

[gilded socket]

No

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers2-hop-on-helldivers-gif-15395284195701640804

[topaz flicker]

ah, i'm just hopin' we get another staff if anything.

maybe one like that laser staff sienna has in vermintide

[amber delta]

hd2 mods homophonic

[gilded socket]

Apparently

[hazy kestrel]

Yeah, our resident crazy wizards could use a new staff.

[somber stream]

So uh

[final herald]

What if

Instead

[somber stream]

Kojimbo's next Tactical Espionage game titled 'Physint' might feature Robert Pattinson

[final herald]

They just...improve the 2 staffs that don't get used as much?

Haha...

Imagine that...

[topaz flicker]

yeah, about 4 of 'em have a primary attack that just fires all the same, while the secondaries may vary at least.

[hazy kestrel]

so true!

[final herald]

Like the electric staff and the voidstrike

[stuck wasp]

There is only 4 staves

[topaz flicker]

you sure? pretty sure there's 5

[astral basin]

I require. Manual shut off.
Cannot recharge in this state.

[stuck wasp]

Trauma, Void, Purg and Surge

[topaz flicker]

might still be recovering from the gas leak then.

[final herald]

Trauma is still "okay" and is probably better w/ all the tallent changes

Electro is mid as fuck and strike needs a bit of love but idk what they would even do

[fierce cave]

[stuck wasp]

Void and Trauma are good as is, just need some primary attack balance.
Surge getting a rework would be best

[topaz flicker]

speakin' of each staves primary attack, does it ever feel like they don't do enough damage to the enemy compared too a bullet?

[final herald]

Considering they are basically infinite ammo no not really

[topaz flicker]

like if anything they feel good enough for knocking the lighter enemies around, especially those damn gunners.

[stuck wasp]

They have attack priority issues (like if you hit both the head and the hand or somethigng)

[hazy kestrel]

On one hand, it’s neato that vet got a new weapon. But on the other hand, why couldn’t the devs just replace the existing power sword’s special mechanic to what the relic blade has and give vets oh I don’t know…a unique gun? The stubber in the class art is RIGHT THERE, taunting me.

[final herald]

I would like it if strike fired a ball instead of a...void dart thingy

For its primary

[hazy kestrel]

No, I’m not bitter at all

[tacit geode]

"Why did the devs change the power sword and nerf it?! I bought a skin based on the way the ORIGINAL power sword worked. I've been scammed." Etcetcetc

[final herald]

Why did we not get an actual explosive plasma instead of an explosive bolter in the update that added mkre plasma stuff

Who knows

[tacit geode]

This community is full of idiots

[stuck wasp]

Cause some people love the Power Crutch and would be mad about it

[tacit geode]

(Lovingly)

[topaz flicker]

pretty sure plasma rifle's unique to vet, as well as helbore

[stuck wasp]

Cause shared

[final herald]

Wise mystical bolter zealot tbat is for some reason not using it for boss damage

[hazy kestrel]

I could care less about people’s misfortune of skins not being able to be used across two different (although functionally the same) weapons. Give me my stubber mg dang it

[topaz flicker]

does zealout get a helbore lasgun?

[tacit geode]

Nk

[final herald]

No

[stuck wasp]

Stubber are less common about the IG

[topaz flicker]

so yeah, plasma rifle and helbore are unique to vet.

[grizzled plover]

Fatshark nerfed the death cultist outfit

[final herald]

We have an entire moebian regiment using mainly stubbers

Doesn't matter for darktide

[topaz flicker]

no hood to go with the mask?

[final herald]

Its on the art

I want one

[somber stream]

No bewbs

[stuck wasp]

Just the smaller one, not the Heavy Stubber though 🤷

[grizzled plover]

Well yes but also it's a skintight corset and the fem zealot still has no boobs

[stuck wasp]

Less iconic

[final herald]

The only thing that makes stubbers rare(r) anyways is just them being less material efficient than lasguns

[topaz flicker]

any new outfits for arbites?

[grizzled plover]

Like, the model it's based on has those slightly conical boobs that transfems get after 8 months hrt

[grizzled plover]

No

This is what, the fourth reroll?

[final herald]

This hit me in my kidney

Thank you

[topaz flicker]

well, here's hopin' for that, and maybe new weapons too.

[hazy kestrel]

At this point, I’d rather just loot a volleygun off one of the scab gunners. I require the maximum firepower

[final herald]

I fucking wish we had one of those

[grizzled plover]

yw

[topaz flicker]

reckon any of the classes could see gettin' a power fist?

[final herald]

Vet

[hazy kestrel]

Big Man has a stubber, I want to have maximum brrrt like Big Man

[final herald]

If ever at all

[somber stream]

In the Grimdark 41st millenium, there are only gender neutral outfits

And sometimes war

[grizzled plover]

Veteran being gatekept from machine guns pisses me off

[grizzled plover]

[final herald]

Nah nah see we got uh

Uhm

We got

Infantry machingun

Braced...machinegun!

[grizzled plover]

Brauto and Recon unironically don't count as machine guns

[final herald]

And....headclicky machinegun

And handheld machinegun

[grizzled plover]

Only 60 rounds man wtf

[fair bridge]

infantry autogun did get a buff this patch

i need to try it still

[obtuse oak]

I played twink stub gunlugger in the event mission specifically to blow the scab plasma gunner patrols back to the stoneage. before long the team was leaving every ammo pickup for me. look at me, i am the veterunt now

[grizzled plover]

ILG got nerfed tho

[somber stream]

The concept art literally feature a Hellgun and a heavy stubber for Vet

[topaz flicker]

reckon ogryn could get a heavy las-gun, or heavy flamer?

[somber stream]

Ingame model already exist too

[final herald]

And yet

[fair bridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grizzled plover]

Ogryn should get a multi melta

[final herald]

Heretic cacti will show up

[obtuse oak]

ingame model is the easy part, it's the player model and first person animations that are the real timesink

[final herald]

And say "erm actually lorewise erm"

[topaz flicker]

feel that'd be too expensive for 'em

[somber stream]

Shork, why

[hazy kestrel]

give me your gun Big Man. No, I don’t care that I can’t lift it, just hand it over.

[grizzled plover]

Make it Brahms' fault, she has unlimited money

[hazy kestrel]

Please

[somber stream]

3 years Hank. 3 years

[final herald]

I will never understand why we don't have a volleygun with wizard staff mechanics

[grizzled plover]

We have a Rogue Trader, an Inquisitor, and a Commissar overseeing this operation realistically speaking we should be hiring outside mercenaries and bribing gangs to help

[final herald]

Primary fire just does a burst and secondary slows you/aims a little more/charges up a longer burst

[grizzled plover]

We have the resources

[topaz flicker]

from what i understand ogryns don't get access too the expensive stuff cause they're too stupid to let go of the trigger, and they might be prone to breaking the expensive equipment

best i can hope for personally are heavy lasgun and heavy flamer.

[hazy kestrel]

Don’t worry pal, one more year! I’m gonna cry lmao.

[grizzled plover]

Give ogryn the quad stubber

[somber stream]

One day i'm sure

[final herald]

Waiting for the "low hanging fruit" in darktide feels like waiting for NSO ESF in planetside 2

It seems so simple
But

Its not gonna happen

Or if it does itll be weird and fucked up

Like the dervish

[obtuse oak]

I know lol, I also wonder what they're doing with all that time sometimes, but small indie company no bitching i guess

[hazy kestrel]

Taking a break after their mandated break, of course

[tacit geode]

They've had to scrap so much fully finished content because of GW

[topaz flicker]

ever reckon by the way that fatshark might make greenskin equivalents of darktide and vermintide where ya' get to play as squads of some good ol' boyz?

[obtuse oak]

that would be peak

[final herald]

Like what
We dunno what even got scrapped in the first place

GW is not so stupud as to go "they are not allowed to use machineguns"

The main artist for the character concept art is the one gw themselves comission a lot

[stuck wasp]

On the Dreg 💀

[somber stream]

Yeah like those are super common weapon. You'd have more sense arguing about reject having access to Plasma and power weapons

[topaz flicker]

i imagine the orc equivalent to vermintide could have ya' play probably a couple kinds of orc, a goblin, and throw in an ogre for fun. general story of the game is just a buncha' gits runnin' into active battlefields, pickin' fights and lootin'.

[final herald]

The one who drew the vet in the heavier armor with the big gun

[grizzled plover]

If we can get access to Relic Blades and Bolters surely a volleygun isn't out of the question

[hazy kestrel]

If we can have rare guns like plasma and the bolter, why the hell can’t we have a dang heavy mg of any kind?

[topaz flicker]

and a ork equivalent of darktide i could imagine bein' you're a buncha' freebootaz or bloodaxes.

[amber delta]

I stole my bolt pistol of a dead comissar

[final herald]

The "gw is a stickler" thing is mostly down to looks

[wooden creek]

It's not even concept art anymore, it's literally in the talent tree screen ingame

[final herald]

Which is really fucking funny because what the fuck was the kreig set

[grizzled plover]

Iirc the Ogres and Greenskins were ultimately on the side of order in the final days of the End Times, you could have Khornetide by having da boyz take it upon themselves to find tha biggest gitz and krump em

[hazy kestrel]

Make it absolutely ineffective against literally anything, I don’t care. I just want to be able to magdump heretics like in the class art.

[somber stream]

My only guess is how the ammo system would be implementet. A belt fed heavy stubber require a backpack slot. Occupied back slot = no spot for cosmetic items = less $$$?

Same goes for the hotshot

[topaz flicker]

always figured 'em as neutral parties.

[final herald]

That unfortunately could be the exact dumbass reason

[wooden creek]

I think we are getting a vet stubber at some point, when FS figures out what kind of Thing™ it should be doing

[fair bridge]

i would imagine the thinking behind not telling players (publicly) that GW is at the very least partially responsible for content delays/no additional content (arbites) is that it would only serve to cause derisive attitudes toward GW, which obviously they don't want

[final herald]

And in that case

Thats a wholly FS decision

[wooden creek]

They've been working on ammo belt tech in the code

[final herald]

Not GW

[grizzled plover]

I mean sure, but it's hard to keep fighting and scrapping if the world is destroyed right

[stuck wasp]

What's wrong with the Krieg set ?

[obtuse oak]

you don't blame your stakeholders or IP license holders for anything in public. that's just bad relationship management.

[topaz flicker]

personally, i always just kinda want ork versions of 40k games. like even space marine 2.

[fair bridge]

of course, that's what i'm saying

[hazy kestrel]

It’s surely not that hard, look at Big Man’s twin-linked stubber for a millisecond and they’ll figure it out.

[obtuse oak]

yeah I'm agreeing with you

[topaz flicker]

just have fun be the primary focus and any story's secondary, like a background detail.

[fair bridge]

well stop it, it's scaring me 😨

[final herald]

Helmet brow too high, masks incorrect
The chestbag is comically flat

[topaz flicker]

reckon a squig could be a playable class?

[final herald]

Thats mostly it, the rest of it is nitpicky small stuff

[stuck wasp]

with the belt going from the gun to the gun...
We could see the Heavy Stubber that the Arbites have in KT

[obtuse oak]

this starting to piss me off as well. machinegun for vet or we riot

[fair bridge]

oh a 40k game i still need to play is boltgun

[stuck wasp]

PoV issues

[fair bridge]

i heard that was great

[final herald]

Boltgun is fun

[topaz flicker]

just put the view in its mouth

[final herald]

And you get to play malum caedo

[tropic sorrel]

Do you mean the darktide one or GW kits

[topaz flicker]

natural selection skulk style

[final herald]

Darktide one

[tropic sorrel]

OK, good set but it's not exactly Krieg

Steel Legion was perfect though

[final herald]

Steel legion fans stay endlessly winning

[orchid skiff]

chargers will no longer be silent in a month

[stuck wasp]

Too low

[orchid skiff]

amazing

gj arrowhead what a quick fix

[topaz flicker]

that's a grudgin'

cause bardin goreksin

[stuck wasp]

Gorrekson

[tropic sorrel]

It's aura boosting from fighting ghaz

[fair bridge]

i wonder what's keeping fatshark from having that level of frank communication with their players

i wonder if it's because of the forum users being complete psychopaths

[stuck wasp]

And VT2 has small and medium PoV for map making
Here it is medium and tall PoV

[final herald]

Mostly-

You already figured it out

[stuck wasp]

Nah, their own doing for the most part

[tropic sorrel]

Orkz is da best, ghaz is da best ork, ergo his enemies are da best

It's just science

[final herald]

Fatshark has never been particularly good at generating hype

[topaz flicker]

also i'm pretty sure squigs come in many sizes.

[fair bridge]

i shit on forum users mostly for fun, consider that a joke

[obtuse oak]

fatshark already posted a message like that once 2.5 years ago

[final herald]

They are really slow

[obtuse oak]

it's still on cooldown

[orchid skiff]

fatshark hasn't been review bombed

[hazy kestrel]

Ork science, ya git.

[final herald]

But the forum users don't tend to help

[orchid skiff]

you know what to do if you want communication

[fair bridge]

omg!! that explains it, thank you

[wooden creek]

Yes they have

[final herald]

One of the first things on the new patch post is some dude ranting about potential powercreep

[wooden creek]

Fatshark's been reviewbombed for saying that they're going to balance the plasma gun and duelling sword

[grizzled plover]

I want GW to do dragon age tide. A Dalish ranger, a Qunari Mage, a Dwarf Rogue, and a Human Warrior

[wooden creek]

And for balancing the old power sword and flamers

[tropic sorrel]

At this point everyone knows how Fatshark operates

What's the point

[final herald]

Because as we all know, instead of playing the game and seeing how it feels, we should go scream on the forums.

[tacit geode]

Its just a joke in this case

[grizzled plover]

Wishful thinking

[tacit geode]

I should have phrased it funnier sorry

[topaz flicker]

speakin' of orcs and squigs, really oughta' try gettin' back into greenskins in warhammer 3. figure out how best to play gorbad

[grizzled plover]

I wish W3 would get Hobgoblins

I wanna play the Khanate so badly

[tropic sorrel]

Spare yourself the disappointment. Could be worse. Could be a Mount and Blade fan

[topaz flicker]

it does have hobgoblins, just have to play chaos dwarfs for 'em

[hazy kestrel]

If we make enough noise maybe the devs will finally hear us (doubtful, but it feels nice to vent).

[grizzled plover]

mfw we don't get nords until a dlc nearly a decade after rhe game's release

[grizzled plover]

Yeah but that's not quite the hobgob khanate lmao

[fair bridge]

you're right. i should go to the forums, demand that the developers work day and night to give me what i PAID for (the video game that i've already sunk 2000 hours into), a personal letter of apology addressed to me, my family, God, and the entire human race, and the castration of no less than five of their programmers, who are actually the ones to blame for all this

[tropic sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-mind-reader-are-you-reading-my-mind-gif-12130474

[obtuse oak]

in the immortal words of Hedge, "we could give everyone 1000 dollars and some people would be mad it wasn't 2000 dollars"

[grizzled plover]

The venn diagram of Mount and Blade fans and Warhammer fans continues to be a circle

[orchid skiff]

childish. you can't be taken seriously without a credible death threat

[grizzled plover]

Hedge be like "man there's no point in even trying to manage this community vro ts sucks"

[topaz flicker]

fair enough. personally i kinda wish it could have a create-your-own-faction feature for single player just so i could create a faction specifically of all goblinos

[final herald]

The undefeated horde shooter devs still remain deeprock and digital extremes

[tropic sorrel]

@grizzled plover indeed...

[grizzled plover]

They kinda tried that with the generic demons princes iirc and it was just, bad

[tropic sorrel]

I miss Jeremus

[final herald]

No one beats digital extremes at the simple task of "explaining what is happening"

[grizzled plover]

Boris was stronger before he was a demon prince wtf

[fair bridge]

i'm inside of this mental institution because i said what was considered to be an actionable threat in a public environment to my local congressman (i told him he ghosted me on our date the night before and i was upset)

[grizzled plover]

Yes but everyone beats digital extremes at the "making a good game" part.

#1 warframe hater

Played it for 7 years

[stable bison]

can we fix the mission aborted bs, or at least make it not derank you in havoc

[topaz flicker]

yeah, kinda wish they could improve that 1 too be honest. do like the idea of buildin' your own daemon prince with the whole action figure deal.

[final herald]

I will have no anti-frame drivel here

[hazy kestrel]

It’s the thought that counts at least they communicate smh.

[tropic sorrel]

When I am in a scam my fans with gacha mechanics and have them praise me for it competition and my opponent is digital extremes 💀

[final herald]

gacha mechanics

Whar

[hazy kestrel]

Give the devs 2 years and maybe it’ll be resolved

[final herald]

People really just be making up stuff huh

[topaz flicker]

oh, i also kinda wish greenskins could get some form of legendary hero as well, like both the ordertide factions and chaos factions get.

[grizzled plover]

Yes yes press 4 to blow up my computer with particle effects and wipe an entire room with your build you meticulously spent 30 months grinding for while DE makes it meaningless with their next expansion "Glub Shitto: Into The Shittoverse" which is a story expansion that has level 485394839 enemies and discusses a minor character you heard about in two grineer lines

[topaz flicker]

maybe same with the undead factions too.

[final herald]

What the fuck are you talking about 😭

[grizzled plover]

When I am in a MTX competition and DE launches another $60 deluxe frame pack that gives you a prime warframe with like 10 more hit points than it's base and a weapon decoration

[tropic sorrel]

Paying for progression and introducing ever longer grinds is mobile game psychology 101

[final herald]

No story missines have...whatever the fuck level you're yapping about

Did you get stonewalled by steel path or something

Thats not even mandatory

[elder merlin]

Their brain has collapsed in on itself, there is no saving them now

[final herald]

Me when I play the optional content and it rips my ovaries out

[grizzled plover]

Zariman 10-0 proudly boasting enemies a higher level than the fucking steel path:

[tropic sorrel]

Erm it's not pay to win it's pay to skip

[final herald]

You don't know anything about enemy scaling do you

Sigh

[grizzled plover]

Le Typed Sigh

[tropic sorrel]

Miss me with that shit 🤚

[grizzled plover]

Pay ten more plat and you can rush your message before it's finished being written

[final herald]

You played 7 years and didn't pay attention for longer than 2 hours

[somber stream]

Warframe arguement in Darktide channel, now i've seen it all

[tropic sorrel]

I'm just too smart to fall for those kinds of scams. Now excuse me I have some warhammer minis to build

[grizzled plover]

Hard to pay attention when they release an hour's worth of story followed by mechanics they will never use or expand on again remember Archwings and Railjacks lmao

[final herald]

I can get not vibing w/ the game

But at least have a better excuse than (made up bullshit)

[grizzled plover]

No my problem is I did vibe with it

[topaz flicker]

kinda wonder what other guns zealout could get to themselves other than the flamer.

[final herald]

You are the VERY FIRST

Person

[tacit geode]

I love my plastic crack

[final herald]

I have ever seen

[hazy kestrel]

Ach, now you’ve reminded me of my Bretonnian gray pile of shame that I still haven’t painted

[final herald]

Say zariman too hard

[somber stream]

The most expensive currency you can spend in Warframe is time tbh

[final herald]

That is insane to me

Genuinely

[tropic sorrel]

You have to do all the tabards

[hazy kestrel]

YES

[somber stream]

I only hop back in every once in a while and still got through most of the content without having to spend a dime

[grizzled plover]

I didn't say it was too hard, I said it had really high level enemies in comparison to the rest of the game

[final herald]

^

[amber delta]

what game are we talking about now, this doesnt sound like helldivers

[final herald]

You said it invalidated your gear

[obtuse oak]

warcrime framing

or whatever it's called

[hazy kestrel]

Lmao

[grizzled plover]

And my biggest problem is still the sheer amount of mtx shilling DE does for a game that is insanely light on content if not for artificial progression gates

[tropic sorrel]

This is exactly what people who are helplessly addicted to flavor of the month anime girl collectors say... Curious...

[amber delta]

ewww

[final herald]

Warframe is like not even remotely close to being hard and never will be

[grizzled plover]

I remember the space ninjas

[arctic escarp]

true (idk shit about warframe)

[somber stream]

Who?

[grizzled plover]

Before the game turned into Evangelion

[final herald]

before

[grizzled plover]

Get in the fucking warframe tenno

[final herald]

Lol

This was the plan

At least up until tnw

[topaz flicker]

can be if you don't mod right, then you kinda just get knocked around.

[grizzled plover]

Intentionally shit is still shit

[obtuse oak]

if NFTs had been used to elevate anime girl collection to hitherto unexplored levels of non-fungibility, they'd still be around

[final herald]

What are you yapping about now

[hazy kestrel]

On one hand, I want to paint my Bretonnians all differently, but I also like the uniformity of Duke Gastille’s color scheme le big sad

[grizzled plover]

Do you need like, subway surfers gameplay underneath my messages

[tropic sorrel]

The fungibility of my theoretical waifu collection is what stops me from playing those games. Save us NFT guys... I can't have my waifu funged....

[final herald]

Sure maybe it would make your mindless yap reigster better

[grizzled plover]

"this was the plan"

"intentional shit is still shit"

"what are you talking about"

Bruh it's two sentences

[obtuse oak]

warframe player confronted with a conversation longer than 2 minutes [attention span LOST] [challenge: impossible]

[hazy kestrel]

I’m also trash at painting and afraid of messing up lmao, which has also curbed my will to paint. But I have to start somewhere so suppose.

[swift roost]

Does clicking the "campaign" button crash the game for anyone else? I tried disabling mods, it still happens

[topaz flicker]

anyways, still wonderin' what guns zealout could get to them selves.

[grizzled plover]

The conversation is running on longer than a hostage rescue mission and it's killing them

[hazy kestrel]

What about that flamer/chainsword amalgamation?

[final herald]

I'm trying to figure out what the fuck they were expecting in the esoteric space ninja game. It's like reading dune and getting mad about the existence of spice.

[hazy kestrel]

Don’t remember the name of it though

[topaz flicker]

flamer/chainsword amalgamation?

[grizzled plover]

Oh dude Dune is sick I love the fucked up mutant mermaid pilot people

[tropic sorrel]

You'll look back on them with fondness, or at least have something good to bitch about. The real secret is with patience and the many online resources it isn't very hard to paint presentable minis these days

[round mica]

anyone aware why i cant find any players in quickplay?

[stuck wasp]

As ranged exclusive ?
Vindictor Flamer (Flamer+Chainsaw)
Hand Flamer
Maybe Inferno Pistol (doubtful)
Cawdor style Autogun/Halberd

[hazy kestrel]

Yeagh, well, more so an eviscerator with a flamer attached

It’s silly, but would be neato for zealots

[final herald]

the biggest gripe I have with the warframe story is the design of the archons, because they just look visually idiotic.

[stuck wasp]

Vindictor Flamer (Pious Vorne)

[somber stream]

try verify files, also is that Ryan Gosling But Harrier Du Bois?

[hazy kestrel]

Yeah that

[final herald]

but I guess steve sinclair has an animal fixation now

[grizzled plover]

Yes DE designs are all annoyingly visually busy

[tropic sorrel]

Word of warning though - anyone who wants to paint the Krieg models for bighamner or kill team (even though GW ruined them) leave the arms off until you paint their little gas mask straps and pack on their chest. Trust me

[topaz flicker]

wasn't the eviscerator that chainsaw they technically shoulda' had instead of that great chainsword they have now?

[swift roost]

Yes

[final herald]

they're base warframes with like a cartoonish animal head strapped to them

but they used a dolphin skull for a wolf skull

and there's an

owl

I don't

understand

[somber stream]

I am the greatest detective to have ever walk the earth

[grizzled plover]

kek most knowledgeable de artist

[tropic sorrel]

I saw one with a scientifically crafted big fat booty that has jiggle physics

[buoyant loom]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-caped-crusader-caped-crusader-batman-batman-pose-gif-12537728247115118999

[grizzled plover]

Alright real shit, Harry du Bois on the path to healing is unironically hot

[elder merlin]

[little marten]

If you’re so good

[somber stream]

It was him. He is the infernal engine. He never stops. He only gets worse.

[little marten]

Solve deez nuts

[elder merlin]

What the fuck are ya'll talkin about in here

[tropic sorrel]

He's a ham sandwiche man, impossible

[buoyant loom]

AYOOOOO

[buoyant loom]

deez NUTS

GOTTEEM

[somber stream]

42. Next question

[final herald]

But no forreal I'll never understand difficulty or content issues
warframe has too much content for new players imo

[elder merlin]

All i seen was @grizzled plover and @tropic sorrel comment

Oh, Warframe? Lol

[final herald]

feel like they could ease up on standing gates though

those are boring

[little marten]

Warframe is just gacha with a western skin

[tropic sorrel]

@elder merlin chat seemed too calm

[iron glade]

It could work, but my biggest gripe with it is the massive crystal sticking out.
Like couldn't they just make it pendant size?

[buoyant loom]

id rather play destiny 2

[grizzled plover]

When the detective internalizes wasteland of reality and you realize his smile is an expression of pain and sadness and he stops drinking and starts making real connections in Martinaise and

[tropic sorrel]

Needed to toss a grenade

[elder merlin]

If you're talking about asses, did ya'll see the Ember Heirloom skin?

[buoyant loom]

hop on rogue trader??

[tropic sorrel]

"I can fix him"

[final herald]

I think they should have just kept them the weird esoteric starfish things they were in the first place

[hazy kestrel]

I remember the halcyon days where destiny was still good

[final herald]

hunhow is like the most threatening the sentients have ever been and he's just a giant

shape

[grizzled plover]

No need, he's fixing himself. All he needs is someone to talk to when the going gets rough

[buoyant loom]

i played from launch

[final herald]

and then they're like "oooh look tenno it's the scary archon" and it's a fucking bird

[somber stream]

I think it's beautiful

Also i punched the kid

[hazy kestrel]

Same brother, same

[buoyant loom]

they cant keep getting away with it

[grizzled plover]

Me too, it makes Cuno get his shit together

[elder merlin]

Hunhow dont even do nothin but bitch and send his brainwashed childsoldier out after you

[grizzled plover]

Hunhow is just evil lotus?

[hazy kestrel]

God, Destiny 1 was peak. 2 is an abomination now.

[elder merlin]

Who was also apparently a father, so dont know how that fucking works

[final herald]

explaining one part of warframe lore is like

[elder merlin]

Unless Stalker also aged up during that one update

[final herald]

impossible

[obtuse oak]

are we discoposting

[final herald]

stalker was never a kid

[hazy kestrel]

I stopped playing D2 a while back, but it still hurts seeing how far it has fallen lol.

[somber stream]

Yesn't

[tropic sorrel]

@grizzled plover now explain Harry's journey to find connection and self actualization like you're DJ Mesh

[final herald]

stalker was directly converted into a warframe and has been around since the old war

apparently he got turned into one because he got pussy and ballas didn't

[elder merlin]

Pregnant warframe shit was honestly crazy/weird as fuck, dont know what DE was thinkin with that one

[elder merlin]

Lol wut

So Stalker is even more of a loser

[final herald]

ballas turned him and his wife into frames because

because they were kissing

[elder merlin]

Got it

[somber stream]

YOU – Invent a name for yourself.

CONCEPTUALIZATION [Godly: Failure] – Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau.

[final herald]

nah stalker is like a weird single dad now

he's just
out there

[elder merlin]

Oh, my buddy just told me stalker was originally one of us that joimed with hunhow cause he believed in following the orokin or whatever

Maybe that was before the pregnant frame update

[grizzled plover]

HEY ITS DJ MESH AND YOU'RE LISTENING TO S-S-S-SPEEDFREEK FM! WE'RE BRINGING YOU THE HOTTEST, NASTIEST HEALING STORY, SHIT SO GOOD YOU'LL GET YOUR SHIT IN GEAR AND WORK ON YOUR O-O-OWN LIFE

[elder merlin]

Idk

[final herald]

but anyways hunhow had a big plan with ball-ass to turn the orokin empire inside out by having the lotus kill the frames

stalker was loyal to the orokin because he's just been indoctrinated to/blames the tenno for the state of the solar system/whatever

[tropic sorrel]

WOW! SUPER COOL!

[elder merlin]

Its honestly fucking hard to follow the lore at this point anymore, especially after us turning into adults

And being revealed we are children in suits

[final herald]

hunhow basically was like "join me and you can get your revenge" despite being the one who initiated the plot in the first place

because his daughter (the lotus) looked at children and was like

"damn I wish I was a mommy fr"

this is not an exageration

the lotus was a starfish robot all along

[grizzled plover]

Disco Elysium was so good I stopped drinking

[amber delta]

Disco Elysium was so good I started drinking

[final herald]

ballas turned her into a copy of this one girl he liked because he is a gooner (this is not an exageration)

so she got real confused

[somber stream]

Disco Elysium helped me gather my shit after a nasty breakup

[final herald]

the lore is spaghetti in the first place

[fair bridge]

KIM KITSURAGI - "What is it, detective? Can you make it out?"

GRAFFITI - "if you read this you are gay lmao"

1. "It, um, doesn't say anything."

2. "Communist ideology. My old foe."

3. [Espirit de Corps - Medium 10] "I think you should read it for yourself, Kim."

[tropic sorrel]

You don't have to go full dark souls but honestly more devs need to take notes on what leaving some room for mystery and speculation does to engage people and let people engage with their imagination - because this warframe lore sounds dumb as hell

[idle holly]

it occurred to me that if harry du bois could manage to hold himself to always waking up at 7:30 i could muster the willpower to stop fucking up my own sleep schedule (to sometimes catastrophic degrees)

[final herald]

leaving room for mystery

unforunately

this is leaving room for mystery

this shit has been dripfed over the last like

however long warframe has been out

the individual chunks are not dumb

alltogether it's the goofiest lore backdrop ever

[somber stream]

Get yourself a funny necktie

[tropic sorrel]

Somehow warhammer manages it against all odds and efforts of GW

[final herald]

sentients (the robot starfish) are basically just terraforming machines that gained scentience

[grizzled plover]

Damn I'm out of coffee in stalker now I have to deal with my regular stamina regeneration

[idle holly]

I'm working on it

[final herald]

all of the issues in warframe are because the original civ thought "what if we did every single thing an advanced society shouldn't do"

[tropic sorrel]

Boooo worst trope, ruined Halo too

[hearty laurel]

Mission aborted problemo still exist?

[elder merlin]

I know that part atleast

[grizzled plover]

Well yes the Orokin were hedonistic bastards on a galactic scale who had long since moved on from a need for morals

[elder merlin]

[tropic sorrel]

Eldar? Is that you?

[final herald]

like:

• army of clone slaves
• army of corporate slaves
• caste system
• sentient nanomachine zombie virus
• sentient self replicating machines

I have not yet mentioned the child soldiers or attempting to terraform venus by dumping a shitload of coolant on it

and also using lovecraftian unknowable otherspace as a way to make ships fly around

[hazy kestrel]

This whole warframe lore shorthand has given me a brain melt.

[elder merlin]

Its crazy how an advanced civilization can be so monstrously stupid

[tropic sorrel]

Maybe they got carried away in a few places

[somber stream]

It's funny how Disco Elysium, a game borderline on spreading Communism ideology fell apart over Capitalism shenanigans

[grizzled plover]

Every civilization in the system other than the fucking sentient zombie nanomachines was designed as a slave race for the Orokin

[small sigil]

cool, this is the 3rd mission of 6 where it aborts at the end

[elder merlin]

What did you think it did to us, the players playing it?

[grizzled plover]

They were proven right so easily

[obtuse oak]

harry is a catastrophe but he is also a hustlegrinder. he's up when the markets open. be where the business is, when the business happens.

[elder merlin]

[old flax]

Oh my fucking god, they changed ALL skill trees?
So I have to remake all the builds I had again.
This is horrible for returning players, having to remake 20+ builds from scratch, without even remembering what the idea behind them was.
edit: ogryn untouched at least, thanks

[iron glade]

Yeah at the same time I don't think they are trying to make it look to look like sentients but mutilated warframe body horror mad science creation.
The issue is most of them just end up looking like a head stuffed on top of something, and only nira kinda achieved that effect with the snake part visually almost entirely taking over the warframe half like an overgrown parasite

[grizzled plover]

False, Harry is a staunch communist who wakes up at 7:30 to serve the proletariat

[tropic sorrel]

After the events of Disco Elysium Harry started making tik toks about waking up at 4am to swing kettlebells around

[iron glade]

And now that I said it I realize this is essentially Warframe iudex gundyr

[somber stream]

I wept for what could've been a Disco Elysium 2. The pale is really interesting

[final herald]

just a little

also "the void" happened because a blue man tripped through a mirror while tripping balls and accidentally taught an empty reality how to swear and then cut off it's finger by accident

instead of like, you know, figuring out what to do next

He decided he would use the finger as a jump drive

this incident ripped off all of his skin

[obtuse oak]

fatshark is new at making talent trees and it's taking a few tries to get the layouts right

[final herald]

this is not an exageration

[elder merlin]

Is this the man in the wall?

[final herald]

yes

[tropic sorrel]

So Dr Manhattan got some bad acid

Got it

[elder merlin]

The void or the man who tripped into it?

[final herald]

the man in the wall is now getting back at the blue man by filling his office full of sand

[elder merlin]

Suffer, fuckface

[final herald]

the blue man is no longer blue because he had his gay servant grow him new normal skin

[tropic sorrel]

Hate it when that happens

[grizzled plover]

I wish I had a gay servant

[elder merlin]

Is that the librarian dude in the room with the talking animals?

[obtuse oak]

i dont know anything about warframe and this is all sounding like a lars von trier movie

[final herald]

during this, the man in the wall elevated some animals to sentience so that they would understand that it was swearing at them

[small sigil]

what causes the consistent mission aborts

[final herald]

this is not an exageration

[grizzled plover]

It sucks, badly

[hazy kestrel]

God, this madness lore is reminding me of Marathon’s madness lore and how it connects to like three different franchises.

[buoyant loom]

all i remember about warframes plot after 420 hours is big booby mommy lady was actually evil the whole time

[somber stream]

https://atelier.zaumstudio.com/products/kims-aerostatic-pilot-jacket
400 fucking Euro for a jacket are they insane

[elder merlin]

Warframe is a fever dream where majority of the warframes are just representations of DE's fetishes

[tropic sorrel]

@grizzled plover you don't have an elderly gay servant with a sad story and impeccable taste in suits? Lmao loser

Everyone has one of those

[buoyant loom]

ive got 3!

[grizzled plover]

Violates the spirit of the game to buy it from them. Thrift it

[final herald]

the animals were there because the blue man (who is no longer blue) began shoving them into the void to figure out if the void would like

idk what his plan was actually it didn't make sense

[obtuse oak]

well, it is made-to-order by european tailors

[grizzled plover]

Kim and Harry both thrifted their outfits

[somber stream]

Still!

[tropic sorrel]

Fr

[grizzled plover]

It's also a very cheap outfit

[somber stream]

Yeah no, fuck Zaum

[grizzled plover]

Like materials wise

I've heard awful things

[final herald]

anyways now the blue man is basically your grandpa

his entire family is worms

and he went back in time to blow up a concert

to teach you what love is

(?)

we'll figure it out next patch

[obtuse oak]

I don't know anything about it but if it were a very high quality handmade made-to-order jacket, then 400 eddies isnt a weird price.

[tropic sorrel]

I wanna know what love is

[grizzled plover]

And thus we got a dating sim as well

[final herald]

yep

[somber stream]

1999 is kinda.. ass

[tropic sorrel]

I want you to show meeeee

[obtuse oak]

dating sim...?

[final herald]

a lot of warframe is "family is important" taught to you by people who completely abandoned their families

[somber stream]

Agreed. IF the quality is high

[grizzled plover]

Yes because warframe is ass and DE is running out of ideas

[final herald]

yeah I picked the latina lady who said she would put me on a leash

[obtuse oak]

the game with the plastic looking faceless killer robots(?) has a dating sim?

[tropic sorrel]

@final herald it's fast and furious and warhammer in space got it

[final herald]

no it's funnier than that

[somber stream]

They have face reveal for the frames now

[final herald]

this is happening because reb ford has too many ideas

[somber stream]

Goes by "pro-to frames"

I made a concept for Loki

[final herald]

and steve sinclair isn't in charge of warframe anymore

[grizzled plover]

God I hate rebecca ford so much

[tropic sorrel]

I have ideas too

[final herald]

I like her more than steve

[grizzled plover]

She needs a fucking handler

[final herald]

I hate steve's decision process

[grizzled plover]

Like George Lucas and Kojima did

[somber stream]

I love Kojimbo

[grizzled plover]

Except she's not nearly as creative as either george lucas or kojima

[obtuse oak]

you either die as a scifi franchise or you live long enough to see yourself become a gooner game. the carcinisation of the game industry

[somber stream]

Unlimited budget

[final herald]

steve is george lucas but given the ability to make sith jarjar cannon

reb ford is like budget kojima

[tropic sorrel]

A game where you play a really handsome wizard named the Rizzard, master of the ancient rites of Mogomancy

[grizzled plover]

Someone give Reb some fucking adderal to mitigate her undiagnosed ADHD

[final herald]

reb at least won't nerf shit forever over one event

limbo still hasn't recovered

from the stupid scarlet spear shit

and khora

[grizzled plover]

BRUH clear sky just asked me to find them twelve packs of one singular brand of cigarette wtf

[obtuse oak]

once i actually played death stranding i became convinced kojimbo is a genius though. it's so novel and so emotional despite? because of? being so, so stupid. pretty peak tbh. proper auteur shenanigans

[final herald]

who had a tooltip that EXPLICITLY said you can heal objectives

[tropic sorrel]

Real

[final herald]

suddenly was "never meant to heal objectives"

fuck steve

I can't prove it but steve is behind arrowhead's decisionmaking

it's all connected

[somber stream]

DS2 PC when

Kojimbo please

[grizzled plover]

"provisions are running low, we need... twelve packs of Parliament Blue cigarettes." fuck you Librarian holy shit

[somber stream]

Is this Stalker 2 or Gamma

[tropic sorrel]

I'm giving you a fetch quest for 12 packs of American spirit black packs, ten pounds of really good Kenyan coffee, and a proportional amount of gin, limes, and tonic. These are essential provisions @grizzled plover

Make sure the coffee is light roast

[grizzled plover]

Base anomaly with Weird Task Framework, hideout furniture, and like two gun mods

[somber stream]

Ah, nice

[hazy kestrel]

May as well give them a quest for the Grail at this point lmao.

[tawny panther]

i cant join a friend who lost a guy in havoc

anyone know whats up? doesnt work when i join or he invites me

[grizzled plover]

dw sakharov will have me do that soon I'm sure

As soon as I'm done acquiring TWENTY CAT THYROIDS for him

[hazy kestrel]

Huh?

[final herald]

what

[tawny panther]

just says "the attempt to join was unsuccessful, please try again later"

[tropic sorrel]

The grail is later in the questline, after they find a nice old V8 pickup without too many miles and no rust on the body

[tawny panther]

no matter if i try to join, or he invites

[grizzled plover]

This fucking egghead gave me four copies of "we need 5 cat thyroid glands" so I need to skin enough mutated cats to get 20 fucking thyroid glands

[obtuse oak]

They're already playing?

[hazy kestrel]

Usual scrap code shenanigans I’d wager.

[tropic sorrel]

Have you tried again later

[tawny panther]

yeah, theyre in mission. lost a guy and I try to fill the spot

hehe yes 😄

[hazy kestrel]

But why do they need cat thyroids

[obtuse oak]

You can't join a Havoc mission in progress

[tropic sorrel]

Try trying again later

[obtuse oak]

Once it starts, it's locked to those 4 players

[grizzled plover]

Scientific research or something they want all mutant parts all the time

[obtuse oak]

They can't play another Havoc until it's over, and nobody can take their spot

[tawny panther]

I was sure I've done this before tho Hank

am i just misremembering?

[obtuse oak]

There was a bug that allowed backfilling for a while because the game threw errors otherwise

It is now working as intended

[tropic sorrel]

A hallucination

[grizzled plover]

Thank you Colonel Kuznetsov for being fucking normal and paying me for bandit patches

[tawny panther]

damn that sucks. especially with the amount of crashes in the game. backfilling would be fantastic as long as there were some mechanisms against abuse

but thanks for letting me know ❤️

[obtuse oak]

I don't know why this is intended. I don't know the why behind a lot of things about Havoc that annoy me a lot.

[spice drift]

idk why but i find the new ds sword skin boring and i have kriegs and aquillan

[obtuse oak]

It's basically just a DS but short

[tropic sorrel]

Tbh the mechanism against abuse should be laughing at lame people who abuse mechanics for in game titles they didn't earn, if the game is going to have as many issues with stability as it does let people join back

[hazy kestrel]

I’m so glad I never have to return to Havoc my pain is over, and I’m sure as hell not grinding to 40 for a third time.

[hazy kestrel]

You just reminded me, the new frame for the no provisions penance is meaningless. You can get it in a heresy mortis run despite it saying auric only

Wasted my time running auric twice (thanks to a connection error on round 10 ) when I could have just run a heresy mortis trial lmao.

Go get that frame on heresy while you can pal

[tawny panther]

I find havoc fun, but there are a lot of chances I’d make

[tropic sorrel]

It's a game folks - it's OK if you can't beat the highest levels of a challenge mode. You will be OK. Either try and figure out what went wrong or just play a different mode

[hazy kestrel]

I did find havoc fun too before the boss spam nonsense

1.0 was brutal with the insta delete trash gunners, but I’d go back to it in a heartbeat over 5 bosses at once lol

[tropic sorrel]

Speaking of not being able to beat things the entire reason I opened this channel was to ask if Arbites got nerfed

[hazy kestrel]

I don’t think so?

[tropic sorrel]

Then there's hope for havoc 40 for everyone

[hazy kestrel]

Not as broken as they were with the bleed spam treat seeking missle that was the pre-nerf dog, but still a dog-walking simulator class for sure.

[tropic sorrel]

Three castigators and a Nuncio Aquila walk into a bar

[hazy kestrel]

“I AM THE HAMMER OF THE LEX!” said Hieronymus Lex, calmly.

[tacit geode]

Yeah a little

Max toughness got reduced by 20

Remote detonation got nerfed

[digital tundra]

Dog perks got nerfed a bit

[little marten]

Ok guys my Darktide will update soon let me make a fresh zealot build in the moment and let’s crush some havoc 40 ok?

[finite glen]

So has anyone else's game been running like unfettered dogshit since the update

[fair bridge]

nope, everything's good with me

even most of my mods work unupdated

i'm living the dream

[amber delta]

mine works better than before tge update

[finite glen]

Its like im trying to run this shit on a Nintendo entertainment system

[hazy kestrel]

Running fine for the moment

[finite glen]

Like the lag is the worst its ever been for me in 21 days of playing this game

[fair bridge]

i seriously doubt that the NES would be able to run anything remotely close to darktide at any level of graphical fidelity

[hazy kestrel]

Try verifying files and/or reinstalling

[finite glen]

My point exactly

[fair bridge]

so you're saying you're running this game on something similar to the NES?

[finite glen]

Well given how im watching people phase through me rn

[fair bridge]

you should go to the forums and ask about it there

[finite glen]

And im on my 4th disconnect

[fair bridge]

on the forums you will find information to be much more readily available

[quick pendant]

😭 i missed the ban

[hazy kestrel]

The servers might just be on the fritz again, just how it is.

[digital tundra]

Shit there was a ban?

Damn

[fair bridge]

wtf where

i luv peanu buter sand wiitch

[little marten]

Who got banned this time

[finite glen]

Gotta respect the 2 people with dementia they've got running them

[little marten]

One of the old guard?

[quick pendant]

rando i think

[digital tundra]

Oh huh

[fair bridge]

yes because the servers are manually run through a series of pulleys and levers

[little marten]

Sucks for them hehe

[finite glen]

Sure as hell feels like it

[fair bridge]

have you considered that it's just your region

[finite glen]

Im in NA

[fair bridge]

or, god forbid, your machine?

[finite glen]

And on a series x

[fair bridge]

LMAO

[finite glen]

With every other game running perfectly

[fair bridge]

ok yeah

equipment malfunction

nah i'm just kidding

if i were you i would check and see if there's an issue on microsoft's end

and, again, check the forums

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/66

you'll get no real help here as far as technical support

especially for a console...

there is also the option to directly contact fatshark support https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us

[stiff plume]

perhaps was asked already, but did they tune up auric difficulty? Played ~10 games today and it's so fcking insane, reminds havoc more or less. And I'm not about the crushers HP's, but overall: the packs, the amount of bosses, the amount of specialists

[fair bridge]

have you done either of these yet?

[hazy kestrel]

Yep

Plasma death squads are terrifying

[thick coyote]

Yes