general-chat

[whole glade]

its okay big man, i confuse people all the time

[jaunty path]

I'm not quite sure about that.

Well

[tired steeple]

jesus christ what use are these things

[blissful kiln]

argonians?

[jaunty path]

Servitors are capable of cleaning up a hotel room

[tired steeple]

If you need someone to lift a box then you can ask a chapter serf

[jaunty path]

So they can probably fix a toilet.

[tired steeple]

that same chapter serf can at least fix a hole in the wall too

[jaunty path]

They can clean a latrine

[tired steeple]

okay

awesome

[low hemlock]

dont fret I’m fully accepting of anyone & anything’s preferences

[jaunty path]

They can whip slaves

[tired steeple]

now I know servitors can also fight

not amazingly

[jaunty path]

They can fight

[tired steeple]

but they can

[jaunty path]

They're just aimbot

[tired steeple]

so, what's wrong with my toilet?

missing a lid

[jaunty path]

They can also do surgery

[tired steeple]

I would get a servitor to go out, punch someone, and then steal the toilet seat out their house

[whole glade]

you are part of the imperium big guy, everyone here whos human can serve

[low hemlock]

yeah where’s Battle Servitor Cosmetic Sets 4 the Rejectz FATSHARK⁉️

[jaunty path]

They can do a lot..hm.

[whole glade]

[jaunty path]

I love servitors out of the sheer depravity of it all really

I'd have a servitor to just stand there

Suffering servitor

[low hemlock]

They cool af since they can nevea die

[jaunty path]

Well

[dapper trench]

96 FOLLOWERS ON TWITCH

[jaunty path]

Death can be met eventually

[dapper trench]

LETS GOOOO

[whole glade]

i feel bad for some, just a poor bastard who stole food once is prolly a servitor

[elder merlin]

Who are you?

[jaunty path]

A well deserved fate.

[dapper trench]

on twitch?

[elder merlin]

[elder merlin]

I just meant in general, but i was bein a ass

[tired steeple]

I think the only time I felt servitorisation was deserved was that scout who tried to snipe an ork warboss and got his team killed

[jaunty path]

It surely wasn't theft from another peasant.

[elder merlin]

So pay me no mind

[low hemlock]

even those who meet the wrong foot with a tech-priest at the wrong time gettin taken and turned into one

[elder merlin]

[low hemlock]

🥀

[dapper trench]

ok

[jaunty path]

Likely from a merchant

And theft from higher rank is heresy

[dapper trench]

but you know what I'll take it

[whole glade]

what?! maybe like heresy or sum but like a dude who was hungry stole sum food for his kid deserves his fate?!

[whole glade]

hadron would never

[low hemlock]

Now look if Hadron one day took my big Ogryn butt and strapped me into a operation table turnin me into a servitor……

well…..I wouldn’t judge

[ocean widget]

does he know the imperium is actively hostile and incompetent with its own population?

[low hemlock]

[whole glade]

my girl is too nice

[weak beacon]

Ooo another question would yall willingly become a tech priest?

[tired steeple]

yeah

[gilded socket]

Woof…

[tired steeple]

you can get away with A LOT as a tech priest

[jaunty path]

Ration your corpse starch better.

Eat only half a can. Or even better, a third.

[gilded socket]

I would become a Adept

[ocean widget]

i'd say you'd get turned into a shitter servitor but god knows someone in the W40K forum would be into it

[tired steeple]

you're not inquisitor lever but no one's gonna back chat you if you can cancel their supply drops

[ocean widget]

yes

[tired steeple]

*level

[ocean widget]

have you seen pasqals power

[whole glade]

HE?! and yes i know how fuck the imperium is. im just saying, petty crime does require the servitor sentence

[gilded socket]

Ruff…

[tired steeple]

stop barking

[neon agate]

If I can become half of the bada** pasqal is? Yeah for sure

[gilded socket]

Make me

[whole glade]

but hungry

[gilded socket]

Woof..

[ocean widget]

i dont even know who you are

[tired steeple]

I can't gif perms aren't on

[jaunty path]

Get back to work

[neon agate]

MY MAN

LETS GO

WE LOVE PASQAL

[whole glade]

i am!

[tired steeple]

also we have cawl who's just straight up a heretic and gets away with it

[jaunty path]

There is nothing more important than serving the imperium

[whole glade]

alight thanos, calm down

[tired steeple]

not chaos heretic he just practices what the imperium deems heresy

[ocean widget]

fun fact pasqal can kill yrilet

[weak beacon]

Good ol cawl

[gilded socket]

Woof!!

[dapper trench]

Max

Maxine

[weak beacon]

No barking in general

[dapper trench]

Do me a solid

[tired steeple]

a metal gear solid

[weak beacon]

I’m telling the nightlords

[neon agate]

Wait a minute can I ask? Are you puppygirl? Ain't no way I know someone here who is a puppygirl is already

[dapper trench]

and Ill get MGS DELTA for you

[ocean widget]

yes maxine is actively dog

[neon agate]

I see

[jaunty path]

Welcome to the 40k discord

Anyway. Hm

All servitors are mindwiped yeah?

[tired steeple]

yeah

[ocean widget]

nah

[tired steeple]

ignore them if they beg for help

[ocean widget]

dont think so

[tired steeple]

it's a glitch

[neon agate]

I have been here almost a year and now I have been told to stop lurking here so now I am here

[ocean widget]

they're lobotomised but not all of em are done all the way

[neon agate]

And there is only thing to know about me

FORG

[vestal mantle]

Today has been a great birthday

[jaunty path]

Oh shit lmfao

[dapper trench]

No barking til the Update go live in my time zome @gilded socket and MGS DELTA is yours

what do you say?

[neon agate]

Literally was here for new only and then two of my friends somehow knew I was here lol

[vestal mantle]

I got my ogryn up to Heresy, my weapons went from 170 to 330, and I did some bot super helldive

[dapper trench]

Im a fair man

[low hemlock]

i mean what’s there to like being a servitor u get:

Imortality aka lil longer than most guardsmen
Cool robo body
Working with tech-priest/Omnissiah Team (Plus if it’s Hadron)
&
Awesome work 👏😎

🦾

[dapper trench]

I live by that

[tired steeple]

see on my last birthday

I had a burger

and it was really cool

on my next birthday I'll probably also get a nice burger

[vestal mantle]

Nah, my big plan is Wednesday to go to a handmade japanese noodle shop

[weak beacon]

I wish for five burgers and five more burgers

[tired steeple]

have fun

I might see if there's a food place

[ocean widget]

you dont get to choose what you do when you become a servitor

see the RT inheritance quest

[gilded socket]

Deal

Fucking deal

[low hemlock]

WISH GRANTED 🧙‍♂️🔮⚡️

[dapper trench]

Very well

[tired steeple]

wonder what the future holds for 40k games

[dapper trench]

I will be watching

[weak beacon]

What would thou do if the nightlords showed up at your door

[tired steeple]

kill myself

[weak beacon]

Fair

[tired steeple]

like I'm not outrunning that

[low hemlock]

call in World Eaters to fight nightlords

[dapper trench]

idk but sm2 techmarine is on my mind

[tired steeple]

I'm gonna find the fastest way to die before they can get to me

[tacit geode]

We've got too many good ones lately we need some abysmal dogshit

Firewarrior remake

[gilded socket]

Now to ask my trusty mod a question @misty trench when update?

[tired steeple]

no we have FAR too many shit or middling ones

[weak beacon]

Either dark eldar or nightlords pick your poison

[low hemlock]

dark elder

easy diff

[little marten]

who is mr e and why has he appeared on my Reddit talking about update ndas

[vestal mantle]

I kinda wish I could find a 40k game that was tabletop on ps5

[tired steeple]

yeah I'd also enjoy that

[vestal mantle]

Like bloodbowl is as close as I get

[low hemlock]

at least dark elder easy to kill

[tacit geode]

Darktide youtuber he'd be allowed to play early

[tired steeple]

night lords cause I'd at least eventually die

dark eldar never kill you

[tacit geode]

Seems ot hae also made a video for them too? based on what he says in his

[weak beacon]

Sew you into furniture

[little marten]

I will enjoy these last few hours of futile optimism where I can pretend the update will be BIG

[ocean widget]

excessive amounts of plastic explosives

[ocean widget]

he is incompetent if that helps

also a youtuber

[little marten]

Makes sense

[ocean widget]

also tanners mate

[tired steeple]

but yeah 40k has been stuck in mobile game hell for years

darktide and sm2 are one of the few good ones we actually got

*some of

[little marten]

YouTubers are just salesmen that never left the house

[ocean widget]

they shut down that one warhammer base building game a while back if im correct

[little marten]

Rogue trader

[tired steeple]

oh space hulk was dog shit

[ocean widget]

nah mobile game

[tired steeple]

yeah rogue trader's great

[ocean widget]

warhammer paint over that one zombie game

[tired steeple]

both space hulk games were so bloody boring

battle sector was good but no one talks about it

[ocean widget]

found it

warhammer lost crusade

[tacit geode]

hired gun is so so too

[ocean widget]

had an aight story but by fucking god the gameplay hurt

rise of kingdoms thats the fucker

rise of kingdoms with a warhammer paintjob

[tired steeple]

there was also uhh

something crusade

it was the third person shooter

why the hell is there 3 crusade games

[astral basin]

I like battlesector but like. The paywalls in it are horrific

[tired steeple]

dark crusade expansion for DoW
lost crusade

then thingy crusade

yeah that's why you get the special edition that comes with what should have been there at launch

when it's on sale

[astral basin]

Me and a friend play it like chess. When theres a new faction we take turns paying for it
(we game share on xbox)

[elder merlin]

I wish it had been better

[gilded socket]

Gough

[fair bridge]

aced my test can i get a W

[gilded socket]

W..

Wlw

[weak beacon]

I kinda want a space marine game set in the Horus heresy

[ocean widget]

cant wait to yell at horus to tell at him to stop doing heresy

[tired steeple]

There will be a day where we get a game set in the heresy

[weak beacon]

And sanguinius said “HORUS!! Stop this heresy at once!”

[tired steeple]

And then he heresied everywhere

[gilded socket]

Im full of dr pepper rn

[gilded socket]

Arma does it best

[tired steeple]

I love dr pepper

Yeah are the arma 40k mods good

[gilded socket]

Im literally suffering rn

I need to burp so bad it feels so bad

[elder merlin]

Hawkeye?

[gilded socket]

Guh?

[gilded socket]

I need to know

[limber zealot]

Not to ask another question about the update but do we know anything about it?

[gilded socket]

Hard

[elder merlin]

You said "Gough", were you referring to "Hawkeye Gough"?

[gilded socket]

Guh?

[elder merlin]

@misty trench, just tell us the update is gonna be shit, we can take it (no we cant)

[elder merlin]

[tacit geode]

I think some of these questions might be NDA breaking lol

[misty trench]

I'd like to know too xd

[low hemlock]

I can, who wanna bet the update only gonna contain 1 map in Mortas Trials nothing else

[tacit geode]

They're actually removing a map

We got 3 confirmations at least

• New mortis Map
• New Veteran weapon
• New plasma gunner enemy

[elder merlin]

That is pretty much what i have been hearing, a mortis trial map and falchion power sword, havent cared to look into it any more than that

[weak beacon]

I got rashuns :)

[low hemlock]

removing content POGGERS now….

REMOVE ZEALOT‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[elder merlin]

Oh yeah, the new gunner

I really could care less about a plasma gunner

All the gunner enemies are already annoying as shit without them adding a whole other one too

[gilded socket]

Ask a

Fatshwrt dev

[elder merlin]

What a update

[low hemlock]

Why the spaces?

[elder merlin]

[weak beacon]

Darktide getting an actual update? Impossible

[elder merlin]

Im more interested in the shop rotation than the update, if im being perfectly honest

[weak beacon]

20 more slopshop rotations

[low hemlock]

i know next there’ll be cosmetics WORTH buying

[elder merlin]

And still nothing good

[low hemlock]

🥶

[elder merlin]

There was never anything worth buying in the shop to begin with

[gilded socket]

Why sleep when my computer is fun inside it

[elder merlin]

We just wanted to spend money cause its all we're programmed to do since birth

Work and spend

Work and spend

Work and spend

Welcome to hell

[low hemlock]

well except em Launch Rotations that came w/ Weapon skins&Trinkets in a single bundle

like the Ogryn leopard pants

[blissful kiln]

skissue

[weak beacon]

I just want the grey colored krieg outfits I missed out on them

[blissful kiln]

steal instead

[low hemlock]

how‼️⁉️

They been out MuLtiple times

[blissful kiln]

taxation is theft

[low hemlock]

[weak beacon]

Because it wasn’t available for me yet

[low hemlock]

Those Kreig sets been out five times

[weak beacon]

Darktide I mean

[low hemlock]

How u missed out lmao

U must’ve stopped playing Darktide for at least more than 6 months

[elder merlin]

I still wish i could get that bone vest chestpiece in all black

[tacit geode]

I think it's only been 3

[low hemlock]

3 that’s still multiple times

[elder merlin]

Im just waiting for Savlar chemdog sets, i need the gas masks

[tacit geode]

When they released (October 2023)
Skulls 2024 and skulls 2025

I got my Vostroyan I am a happy camper

[low hemlock]

I wish every rotation was like this

[weak beacon]

I want Valhallan outfits

[low hemlock]

u missed that too the Vostroyan sets

🥀🥀🥀

[weak beacon]

I think those outfits are still available

[tacit geode]

They're in the shop right now

And psyker got a bearskin

[low hemlock]

well what u waiting for, don’t say u miss em like the Krieg sets

[tacit geode]

Which they deserved. My feedback did something yay

[weak beacon]

I’m poor atm I can’t get it yet

[round mica]

Can anyone confirm if the next update is just gonna be a mortis map and a plasma scab?

[ocean widget]

no

theres a sword

[arctic escarp]

NEWS TODAY??

[arctic escarp]

also hi

[ocean widget]

hello

[round mica]

I cant tell if I should take u for ur word disingenuous dense motherf*cker

Something about the name

[ocean widget]

https://tenor.com/view/darkviperau-darkviperentertained-entertained-blue-ball-gif-8725442463997170474

[blissful kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/irene-vampirene-kpop-red-velvet-vampire-gif-13892556699864010023

[ocean widget]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-darkviperau-darkviper-reduce-quality-speedrunner-gif-15199530504827108215

[ember nimbus]

oh shit new twitch drops too?

[ocean widget]

ew

[ember nimbus]

winterhome scar chads keep winning

[blissful kiln]

batchest

[ocean widget]

no twitch drops recently thank fuck

[bronze wren]

Bound by Duty Update teaser thoughts y’all?

[ocean widget]

twitch drops are abysmal

[grizzled hornet]

so uh complete radio silence from the fat fish?

[bronze wren]

Fair enough

[ocean widget]

yup

[lament wasp]

still only 2 things we know so far

i have to say, would love to have more details by now

[ember nimbus]

apparently we get a blog (?) today

[tacit geode]

I am the genuinely intelligent fatherfucker

Vet is also getting a sword

So 3 things confirmed

More Tomorrow/Monday

[lament wasp]

nope

[bronze wren]

So Plasma shitter is number 1 but whats the second?

[thick coyote]

You do what to fathers

[neon agate]

I am sorry. You are a WHAT

[tacit geode]

Dw about it

[lament wasp]

we can reasonnably assume new map for mortis

[blissful kiln]

uncle fucker

[ember nimbus]

nope

[thick coyote]

Ok

[tacit geode]

Again we got 3 whole confirmations so get excited

[bronze wren]

You had me at new

[tacit geode]

• New mortis map
• New enemy
• New vet weapon

That's it tho

New enemy is cool

[ember nimbus]

mortis trials map plus a plasma gunner event enemy

[tacit geode]

I'll give them that

[ember nimbus]

WAKE ME UP INSIDE

[weak beacon]

I want a sevitor chef

[tacit geode]

(Not an event enemy)

[lament wasp]

https://youtu.be/mBM0_acEQQs i mean, chances are we are to get one..

this does indeed seem like a new mortis environment

[bronze wren]

Honestly, thats enough to get me playing the game again

[arctic escarp]

you disingenuous dense motherfucker..

[ember nimbus]

also if that power sabre is vet only im blowing up a blackship

[lament wasp]

for those 3 only.. it would do.. not long at all but it.. eh.. it would do i guess

still would be extremely disapointing for this amount of time since last update

[ocean widget]

we need class specific weapons ngl

[gilded socket]

Big boobs

[weak beacon]

I want the two handed chainsword for vet I don’t care

[arctic escarp]

yes

[ember nimbus]

great, make the dueling sword psyker exclusive again

[ocean widget]

just wait for it to be an event specific enemy

[dusky sinew]

I've only got 40 hours in the game, and I may be ready to graduate from Malice to Heresy. How good should my equipment ratings be in order to survive there?

[bronze wren]

Has the fanbase ever actually gotten a valid reason for the relatively slow development of the game tho?

[tacit geode]

#theorycrafting message

[ocean widget]

thats a mod not a fatshark dev

[tacit geode]

That's a playtester

[dusky sinew]

I have a Veteran at level 24, and I just got my Las Rifle and Chainsword to levels 20.

[lament wasp]

its a little hard to say exactly because of how little they communicate with us

[ocean widget]

potato potato

[ember nimbus]

its way more important you are comfortable with dodging and blocking at that point

also your target priority

[ocean widget]

knowing fatshark they'll probably make it event specific like they did with the radio guys

[tacit geode]

Not a ton of people work on the game. They have like 180 employees and darktide only has double digits working on it.

They're working on it just at the pace they can

[dusky sinew]

I am not comfortable with either of those, and probably ought to become so

[ocean widget]

according to 2024 they're working on 3 things at once

VT2
DT
some unnamed unreal engine thing

[next iris]

whatever you can upgrade to, but mechanics knowledge is more important.

[lament wasp]

i still dont get why it seems they have this many devs still working on VT2..

the game is full.. like please move on, its getting as much support or more even as the current newest title

[next iris]

i mean let us be honest, VT2 is maintenance mode with barebones team

[tacit geode]

They seem to also have more leeway with VT2

[arctic escarp]

theres an interview where one of the devs just said that they're happy with how their current developmental pace of the game is. They're fine with releasing big updates that attracts many players new and old. Then allow the hype to trickle down gradually over a quarter, only to repeat the same cycle again.

[tacit geode]

Mainly because GW doesn't care about old world that much

[elder merlin]

I got the vet helm, its all i wanted

[tacit geode]

It's so good

Like whoever made that set made it with love

[ocean widget]

ffs discord

[tacit geode]

Get them hadron

[ocean widget]

cant even replace text with links

[elder merlin]

Get fucked

[ocean widget]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn3BViHPDh8

release trailer for VT2 update

i doubt thats maintenance

[elder merlin]

He's posting links, ban 'im

[tacit geode]

That was an event map you can no longer play

Lol

It was a good map

Fighting 4 trolls at once was fun

[ocean widget]

"will be accessible via the Weekly Event Game Mode"

sounds like a skill issue

[tacit geode]

Yeah while it was active

[ember nimbus]

"with the fomo shop being as popular as it is we have decided to put in fomo maps"

[tacit geode]

It's gone now

[gilded socket]

Guns of brixton

[ocean widget]

wait seriously?
the weekly events dont rotate

[tacit geode]

No it's gone

[ocean widget]

thats fucking dumb

[next iris]

1 event map in a billion years, yeah, totally not maintenance

[tacit geode]

Same with a quiet drink they're only around for a limited time

I mean if you want an actual example of maintenance

[ocean widget]

im sorry for thinking fatshark actually did something decent for once

[tacit geode]

VT2 was suppose to get a weapon pack this year. It got delayed to 2026 in March

They pushed it over 9 months out

[next iris]

https://i.redd.it/fbzmeehg9c4a1.png

[vestal mantle]

I do need to get back into vermintide

[tacit geode]

Anyway fatshark pace is fatshark pace. If you're bored then just take a break the devs have said that's alright

[vestal mantle]

Not even close to completing its campaign

[ocean widget]

i literally havent touched the game in a month so i dont know why you're telling me this

[tacit geode]

More a general statement than to you in particular

[next iris]

waiting for chaos waste equivalent that's fun and replayable, for DT

[inland mantle]

You'll get mortis and be happy

[vestal mantle]

Will say playing vermintide made me a bit better at darktide

[next iris]

It punishes taking hits more generally, but if you kill good, then THP can keep you fed for days.

It does teach the usefulness of pushing better imho, compared to dt

[vestal mantle]

I have no idea what thp is... I just understand pointy stick goes into flesh

Im a simple lad... I look for a stick and gun I like and what happens happens

[bronze wren]

Hmm thats just a damn shame, GW should reallocate some resources and lay a heavier Focus on expanding in Marketing ( okay, maybe now would be poor timing considering the backlash that came with Space marine 2 and the Franchise as a whole + the General Push against Video Games Coming from the usa atm) and optimisation of the Game on all Platforms Imo
Nonetheless, its still one of the best Horde Shooters that came out in the past few years

Wait, i forgot to shitpost

Yarrick is a bitch

[nocturne flicker]

3

3 things

vet's getting a new weapon, there's a new scab plasma gunner enemy, and there's a new mortis map...
oh actually 4. we know there'll be a change to at least a force sword blessing too, superiority will trigger on specialist and elite kills instead of just elites. that could indicate a balance pass if we're lucky

[nocturne flicker]

vermintide taught me that i have an autistic obsession with two-handeds

[ocean widget]

toughness HP presumably

[vestal mantle]

Vermintide taught me that I hate forest maps and I have no sense of navigational awareness in video games

[blazing hawk]

I'm just worried that warhammer will implode

Rising prices for quite frankly not much reason

[nocturne flicker]

it did that's how we got age of sigmar

😂

[blazing hawk]

GW sticking it's fingers in its ears and going lalala I can't hear you

And what I think is going to be the most damning is that not many youths are actually going to do Warhammer minis

[nocturne flicker]

Hey I got a new phrase for Cadia enjoyers, I wanna know if I cooked or if I burnt the kitchen down?

[blazing hawk]

Because of how expensive life is already

[vestal mantle]

Its honestly not a bad thing to see a company get push back. You cant really say "if you like it then dont buy it/complain about it", then when it applies to something you like "oh no, what will happen"

[blazing hawk]

Like I'm 16 and I'm broke as fuck but hey I've got 1.5k points of imperial fists and nearly 1k of Guard

[nocturne flicker]

I never did, I was born in 2001 so they were already a waste of money by the time I became interested in Warhammer at 15 in 2016 (when I got Vermintide 1)

[low hemlock]

at least GW can always rely on the ol heads

[blazing hawk]

But I'm a Kill Team player so I get kill team kits

[vestal mantle]

Either they fix it/find a compromise, ignore it, or back to the drawing board

[blissful kiln]

doesn't matter

[nocturne flicker]

Yeesh, you're younger than I am

[blazing hawk]

I think I've got a good example tbf

I know a classmate who's into gundam

He wanted to get into 40k first

But he saw the PRICE of the kits

[nocturne flicker]

"Purple eyes, thick thighs. The Cadian way."

[dusky sinew]

Really? It doesn't make a difference?

[blazing hawk]

And left for Gundam

[bronze wren]

Battlefield 6 and borderlands 4 in a nutshell

[blazing hawk]

The only thing stopping the youths from actually enjoying warhammer 40k in its base form is the price

If the prices actually went down I think 40k would explode amongst the youths

[nocturne flicker]

Battlefield 6? I mean I know Borderlands 4's been doing some dumb sh*t but my impression of Battlefield 6 is that they're actually giving half a damn about what the community wants. I didn't play the beta though so

[blazing hawk]

Because there is no "nerd only" sentiment for 40k it's going mainstream

[blissful kiln]

well ofc it does, but you'll be fine in Heresy and Damnation

the blessings and perks are more important, and as long as your weapon isn't like 0/60% damage it's ok

[nocturne flicker]

Like from what I've SEEN so far it's them trying to go back to the age of Battlefield 3, 4 Bad Company 2

[vestal mantle]

Idk... About bf6... From what I gather, most of the backlash is from CoD streamers and the consensus is that bf6 is pretty good

[blissful kiln]

I go to twitch to see B4 footage and half of it is people travelling the open world and capturing towers

it's fuckign Assassin's creed

not borderlands

[vestal mantle]

But i do not know personally. I dont play competitive shooters anymore

[blazing hawk]

I'm pretty sure I'm like the only teenager in Singapore who actually.plays warhammer 40k and kill team

[nocturne flicker]

yeah heresy and damnation aren't hard like they used to be, havoc sorta took over what auric used to be (VERY poorly, but it did) while auric is the new damnation

[blazing hawk]

Rip sedition

Killed for zero reason

[nocturne flicker]

idk i have a lot of friends in indonesia who love 40k. idk why singapore would be much different?

[nocturne flicker]

it was too easy to a point of irrelevance

[blazing hawk]

I don't see people my age at the LGS

Like actually playing the game

Okay I think there is another guy who plays 40k

But not kill team

[nocturne flicker]

like ppl were just straight up playing uprising as the training difficulty. hell i played malice as an arbitrator at like level 3 or something and it was easy as shit

[blazing hawk]

Bit younger than me

[nocturne flicker]

yeah maybe it's just more divvied up between who plays what

[vestal mantle]

I think gw should actually make a vidya game version of 40k/fantasy and put it out

[nocturne flicker]

vermintide and darktide 😈

[blazing hawk]

That's called Tabletop Simulator

[nocturne flicker]

😝

[bronze wren]

Hasnt there been a lot of pushback about them catering more towards the COD playerbase? Intentional movement exploits, gun handling, the game just generally feeling Like Warzone remastered?

[vestal mantle]

Thats assuming the gw doesnt shut the mod down tho

[blazing hawk]

I think they know better to not

Tabletop sim is used for like long distance games most of the time

You'd be killing like a playerbase that would never buy your shit anyway

They actually might be that stupid

[nocturne flicker]

i haven't heard anything of that sort. they might've added some extra gunplay functions from modern cods just to make things feel more in-depth but i don't think they went full black ops 6 with it. honestly the biggest complaint i've heard is that they're possibly doing some kinda battle pass for cosmetics and such, but dice has also said none of the cosmetics will be like some fortnite nonsense. they SEEM committed to going back to the old "faceless soldier" formula over the 2042 cringe hero shooter shit

[blazing hawk]

Gw fucking shut down battlekit

[somber stream]

It's monday

[nocturne flicker]

NDA embargo drops later today. hank wouldn't be awake yet though it's like 3AM or smth in the netherlands

[vestal mantle]

Yooooooooooo: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10016914

[somber stream]

Crazy how we haven't got a single trailer/blog at this point yet

Also good morning chat, another day on paradise

[nocturne flicker]

and until hank's awake i don't think anyone else would have their embargos lifted, since he's the closest to sweden time afaik

[nocturne flicker]

yeah hank and i have been talking about how concerning it is

[somber stream]

100% things are falling apart in the back stage. See how the game still have crashing/dc issue after 4 back to back patches?

[arctic escarp]

no pre-orders when the reveal trailer is all hype moments and aura farming

[fair bridge]

havoc reset tomorrow

[somber stream]

... i pre-ordered

[fair bridge]

i'm so soft

[arctic escarp]

congrats. You now know you are not immune to propaganda

[somber stream]

I've played the Beta

[nocturne flicker]

i do have a theory that maybe quickpaw inherited a REAL mess from kitefin's departure although it's reliant on so many factors going wrong. i also mentioned it on forums and some angry chinese dude basically called me a corpo succaminchia

[somber stream]

Dev tweaked the sliding, also there seems to be a lot of content according to the leak

We're eating good

[bronze wren]

Well, i might be just caught in some slop Echo chamber on my YouTube Feed then lmao, can you recommend me some Outlets/channels/whatever that Report on bf6 News? I honestly got a lot of hopes for it because I wasted a lot of Hours in a Lot of battlefields and i plan on wasting a lot more lmao

[arctic escarp]

I may purchase BF6 some later time

[nocturne flicker]

i haven't but the game is effectively sold to me bc of the expanded portal mode

[fair bridge]

why do all the fatshark GMs have warrior cats names

[nocturne flicker]

it'd take bf6 doing smth REALLY dumb on release to stop me from buying it

[somber stream]

Like

Fail to launch the entire day

[lament wasp]

no idea where you found that last info tho

[nocturne flicker]

maybe try jackfrags? or what's his name maybe tbag gaming's still around. i heard all this from my younger brother

[fair bridge]

what leak

[somber stream]

Reddit and Chinese social

[fair bridge]

china

china china china china

[somber stream]

Choina

[nocturne flicker]

forums. a hotfix was added where the blaze force sword got an updated blessing description but the change wasn't actually to be implemented until the next update or something

not verbatim

[lament wasp]

1.8.8 indeed

[fair bridge]

we're darktiding tomorrow right

if the update even drops then

[arctic escarp]

aaah, FS and lying about the tooltip

[fair bridge]

when does the update drop

i forgot

[nocturne flicker]

i think it was that one

[fair bridge]

what year is it

[bronze wren]

Without Jackfrags i wouldnt know how to Camp helis

[somber stream]

Why yes, time to make Darktide great again, deport the divers

[vestal mantle]

I kinda think after the update that fs should do what hd2 needs to do... Fix some stuff on the network side

[fair bridge]

silence

[vestal mantle]

Like vt2 runs great

[fair bridge]

divers kept this chat alive during the drought

thank them for their service

[vestal mantle]

Dt for me is hit or miss

[nocturne flicker]

Helldivers is gay, I walked in and said "Wow, Helldivers is gay" 🫲 👉

[fair bridge]

oh yeah the 23rd

[vestal mantle]

Tbf I got darktide because a few divers recommended me it

[fair bridge]

darktide 23rd

we game

game time

[somber stream]

We tide our darks

[fair bridge]

i literally have to take a shit

[vestal mantle]

Uh... Actually a good question

[lament wasp]

I kinda think after the update AH should do what darktide did... Fix the balance of some weapons

[nocturne flicker]

i got helldivers bc darktide's devs were being typically silent and my friend was obsessed with it

[fair bridge]

but i'm so entranced by this man making dovetail joints

[nocturne flicker]

this was like beginning of march 2024, when helldivers 2 was still massive

[fair bridge]

permission to disembark sir

[arctic escarp]

its a cycle

[bronze wren]

Also, Transport heli with skilled Gunners is the most underrated subclass and i will die on that hill if i have to

[vestal mantle]

We should play sometime... Im a bot diver mainly but I dont mind shooting bugs or squid

[arctic escarp]

content null so everyone just goes off topic

[nocturne flicker]

i actually strongly prefer darktide, helldivers' gameplay loop and bugs make it feel really r*tarded at times. like how it's nigh karking impossible to shake enemies off without light armour

[vestal mantle]

There are tools... You just dont use em

[somber stream]

Me in heavy armour with a hellbomb:

[nocturne flicker]

che?

[vestal mantle]

Like I bring heavy armor but I use EMS or smoke in case it gets too heavy

[somber stream]

You don't need to shake 'em. If there isn't any to shake

[vestal mantle]

You got stun and smoke grenades

Bots can be suppressed

[nocturne flicker]

there are always enemies to shake on high diffs

[somber stream]

Smoke? There are people using smoke these day?

[jaunty path]

On havoc most likely.

[vestal mantle]

I use it on bots and squid fronts

[hidden wedge]

Both are fun and fill different niches tbh, alwayd found it funny how people only devote their time to one game

[jaunty path]

oh

[somber stream]

Shrimply delete them, we should play togehter sometimes

[jaunty path]

hd2

[somber stream]

Yeah

[nocturne flicker]

oh yeah it's really good to suppress one bot while there are 20 more heavy devastators shooting at you

[vestal mantle]

I have days I allocate

[nocturne flicker]

nah they're just not fun to fight against imo

[vestal mantle]

You shoot in the direction... 6 shots is enough to suppress in a 20 min cone

Meter

[nocturne flicker]

helldivers is just kinda... like there's a feeling of frustration with the game darktide never gives me and i cannot possibly articulate it, and ppl eventually start throwing insults bc i'm bad at explaining it and they misinterpret it

[vestal mantle]

I use it all the time on d10

[nocturne flicker]

so idek why i try to bother explaining but here i am

[arctic escarp]

personally I cant see how you can play this game for hours straight

[somber stream]

Lack of depth maybe?

[nocturne flicker]

i just find one more fun than the other. helldivers might have a nice niche at times but that won't stop me from having a PREFERENCE for darktide

[nocturne flicker]

yeah. the combat is less satisfying

there's something you get from darktide that helldivers just doesn't offer

[somber stream]

That's the general consensus, yeah.
However it's also different gerne

[nocturne flicker]

... but i DON'T know what that is

[vestal mantle]

I think its tension

[nocturne flicker]

yeah ofc it's different. that's why i prefer darktide. but helldivers is still fun

[arctic escarp]

off topic but these elf cosplays man 😍

[vestal mantle]

In hd2 you die its not really the end of the mission

[nocturne flicker]

no both give me tension, but helldivers gives me a FRUSTRATING tension while darktide gives me a FUN tension. again idek how to articulate it bahahaha

[nocturne flicker]

🥵

[somber stream]

I have the most fun with low ticket matches, yeah

But that will be remedied with higher diff

...once it's here

[arctic escarp]

also I finally saw the shadowheart drukhari model

[lethal solstice]

Darktide has more character control
When you win its more you winning versus HD2 just being attrition hell

[nocturne flicker]

dm

[vestal mantle]

Well I mean even if you wipe if the main obj is done you win

[nocturne flicker]

THANK YOU SO F*CKING MUCH

omg thank you. that's the best explanation i've EVER heard

[lethal solstice]

Darktide has the best skill expression I have seen in a game

[vestal mantle]

My biggest gripe with helldivers is that some weapons just outshine others

[nocturne flicker]

yeah agreed. i'm more in CONTROL of the outcome. i don't feel crushed constantly, only when i need to be

[vestal mantle]

Like no contest

[nocturne flicker]

the halo warbond just being worse weapons than others entirely

[lethal solstice]

Losing in Darktide is largely your fault and not massive knock on trickle down effects, as opposed to hd2 where you pull a bad patrol literally once and spend the next 20 minutes running

[somber stream]

In Darktide you're a borderline demi-god with how you can parry an entire army given enough skill is invovled. Helldivers is more to the grunt on the ground side. You die easily, but there are ways around things given enough tactical decision is applied

[lethal solstice]

Like sure there are defining fuck ups but you can overcome them, as opposed to being locked out of resources and in an irrecoverably bad position

[arctic escarp]

engaging gameplay

[nocturne flicker]

hot take or nah? halo shotgun should be a heavy pen support weapon. y'know, bc it's a large bore shotgun meant to decimate alien armoured units. if the halo shotgun was accurate to its original counterpart, it'd be twoshotting overseers instead of struggling against its armour

[nocturne flicker]

this. thank you.

[vestal mantle]

Eh, I'd agree but change shotgun to pistol and heavy pen to med pen

[low hemlock]

what if Barrel go boom boom near u and u fly like superman off edge

[somber stream]

It's a 8 gauge, but it's still buckshot. A lot of pellets doesn't mean more pen at any case

I prefer the thing as it is now, very high damage vs bugs

[low hemlock]

[nocturne flicker]

i suppose a medium pen secondary shotgun would be nice

[vestal mantle]

Isnt the slugger med pen?

[somber stream]

This i agree with, why the fuck is a Magnum light pen

[nocturne flicker]

i'd rather literally any of the other shotguns bar the punisher or slugger

[fair bridge]

helldivers is fun and makes me feel good :)

[somber stream]

You can't fend off 8 Stalkers with those at the same time

[nocturne flicker]

it's fun but makes me feel mad

[arctic escarp]

and thats valid!

[low hemlock]

If barrel kill me, I blame it on Wolfer having a sleeper Assassin Agent on standby

[nocturne flicker]

skill issue

fire shoggun

[somber stream]

No stagger, no stun

[little marten]

Helldivers more like crashtodesktopdivers

[somber stream]

Have fun getting huggies wuggies from them

[nocturne flicker]

it staggers well enough last time i used it? unless it got nerfed

[elder merlin]

Its a vibe warbond, thats it

You buy it for the nostalgia, not cause any of the stuff in it is good

[vestal mantle]

I think the best thing tho bout darktide is the weapon feel

[somber stream]

The fire shotgun offer no stagger

[nocturne flicker]

nah. i also use arc blitzer. most teammates know to stay behind me thankfully

[vestal mantle]

I judge any shooter off of the shotgun

[nocturne flicker]

they might've nerfed it then bc the cookout used to put devastators on their ass. stalkers too

[elder merlin]

The best thing about Darktide is lightning hands

[vestal mantle]

If you feel weak with a shotgun in an fps, that kinda sets the tone

[nocturne flicker]

darktide sucked for you until june this year then 💀

[elder merlin]

Pc issue

[somber stream]

Oh Cookout still do stagger ye, i thought you were talking about the Breaker incen

[nocturne flicker]

ohhh hell nah i ain't usin that low ahh ammo bish

[elder merlin]

Breaker incendiary used to stagger?

[nocturne flicker]

nah i was talking about cookout

there was an easy to make miscommunication

[elder merlin]

It does eat ammo, true, but its the best shotgun for bugs in my opinion

[somber stream]

Crash once on PC in a 4 hours long session vs DC to lobby once every 15 minutes in Darktide. Which way western man

[elder merlin]

Or was

[little marten]

I actually have about 8 crashes over 2 games on minatoria

[nocturne flicker]

i use arc blitzer, talon and laser cannon mainly for bugs. if i really needa wipe some mfs i use dynamite. warp pack is always part of my loadout ofc, except illuminates where i use ballistic and plasma weapons with a supply pack

[vestal mantle]

Hehe... I kinda got darktide in June or July

[little marten]

I’m guessing it was network issues on then planet I was playing with Xbox friends

[nocturne flicker]

dynamite is slept on so ridiculously hard

[little marten]

Seems to also be an issue with overloading of bot assets which is strange because back in launch days when a gazillion bots would drop at once there was no issues whatsoever

[somber stream]

On PC? Might be your rig issue

[little marten]

My rigs relatively new

[somber stream]

But i do agree the game need patches, fast

[nocturne flicker]

just a superior frag grenade with one fewer charge

[little marten]

We were all crashing tbf all 4 of us

[somber stream]

New rig can get software conflicts, happens

[somber stream]

Network issue

[little marten]

Could be could be

[somber stream]

Though interestingly

The network is far superior than Darktide's

[little marten]

FatShark forgot to pay server rent

[somber stream]

I managed to play with Lucia, who is in Southern America with ease

[little marten]

A tale as old as time

[somber stream]

Do that with Darktide and the game will piss its pants

[nocturne flicker]

makes sense. the shotguns in darktide prior to the buffs and arbitrator ones were really mid, only looking at the human ones. ogryn shotguns were pretty solid although ripper guns weren't too friendly with range-heavy builds

[arctic escarp]

we barely have a good shotgun til arbites dropped xd

[nocturne flicker]

darktide's servers ARE worse yeah. playing with my swedish friend made malice feel like havoc 40

holy shit that lag...

never again

[somber stream]

Yeah, nah.

[nocturne flicker]

on humans! kickback is a shotgun 😉

[somber stream]

I can even play with aussies in HD2!

[arctic escarp]

looked like a blunderbuss

also I forget Ogryn exist most of the time

[elder merlin]

I'll never understand using those arc weapons, feels bad to me

[nocturne flicker]

well it won't be this aussie for a bit, i don't wanna spend today uninstalling and reinstalling darktide and helldivers. and i can't have them both without deleting games that are better than both like witcher 3

[nocturne flicker]

i do it to lessen the strain for resupplying so my teammates can just go nuts

[elder merlin]

If you were gonna give me an electric type weapon, just give me the reager carbine from Mass Effect

[nocturne flicker]

plus it has solid stagger

[somber stream]

Time to Pee Cee

[elder merlin]

Its the only electric weapon in a game i've loved

[nocturne flicker]

you won't catch me using arc thrower though, that's my laser cannon spot

[nocturne flicker]

or hmg on illuminates

okay another hot take

plasma burst sniper is NOT as bad as ppl make it out to be

it's a little bit whatever, and i wouldn't use it on bugs for sure, but paired with HMG it's definitely viable against illuminates. i haven't tried for bots bc i just prefer lasers for them

[gilded socket]

The guns of brixton

[nocturne flicker]

ppl make out like it's hot trash worse than default liberator type shit

like it's viable

[arctic escarp]

the console life 🥀

[nocturne flicker]

reason being that it's actually half decent against overseers (and the AoE is alright for eliminating hordes at a reasonable distance), the HMG pairing covers you quite well for everything else. i'd be happy for the plasma burst sniper to have better breakpoints against overseers though. the damage drop off is a bit strange i guess

just to specialise in killing those annoying c*nts

😂

[vestal mantle]

Well... Gonna eat fud and sleep

Bye all o/

[nocturne flicker]

see ya! ttyl

[vestal mantle]

Dinner btw is apple habanero bbq chicken breast

[nocturne flicker]

smash

[elder merlin]

The what?

[nocturne flicker]

the killzone plasma sniper

[elder merlin]

That shits fuckin ass

Unless they reworked it after its release

[astral basin]

Was dragged through marvel rivals
Ugh

[somber stream]

Is it gay to feed a random cyclist ham and cheese while on the road

Like a slice of ham and cheese, hand fed

[nocturne flicker]

it's meh against non-illuminates and you gotta pair it with HMG, but it's alright for illuminates. there are things they need to improve it for but it's surprisingly effective against overseers

and overseers are... yeesh. annoying

[elder merlin]

You talkin bout the video?

[somber stream]

Im talking about the video

[elder merlin]

The person in the van wasnt random, they were part of the cyclist's team

To provide support and shit

[somber stream]

Oh truly?

[astral basin]

Did they suck the ham juice off the phalanges?

[elder merlin]

Dats what i heard

[somber stream]

Support drink ❌
Supprt Ham & Cheese ✅

[somber stream]

Dry ham

[elder merlin]

Need fuel in the tank

[nocturne flicker]

see? ppl talk about it like it's the worst thing ever but they just ain't paired it with HMG. not the best, still warrants some buffs, but i can reliably do higher diffs with it. i wouldn't take it into diff 10 but there's a LOT of weapons i wouldn't even take into like diff 7

[elder merlin]

Food is energy

[elder merlin]

I stick with my Jar dominator

[astral basin]

As long as there was no tongue to finger action, should be a basic homie action

[nocturne flicker]

awww i want more homiesexuality

[astral basin]

🗞️

Bad

[somber stream]

There might've been a bit

[astral basin]

Time to worry 👀

[somber stream]

But only the surface, slightly caressing the lips with the fingers

[nocturne flicker]

i don't like that thing much. something about it felt weird when i used it, although that was like a year and a half ago

[elder merlin]

Honestly, until the attachments update, my weapons were the Jar dominator for everything and sometimes the flamer for bugs

[astral basin]

Turning from a bromance to a bro romance

[elder merlin]

Then it was that white liberator medium pen rifle

Now its the halo rifle

[nocturne flicker]

like the plasma purifier is easily one of the strongest primaries in the game but i suck so fucking bad with ts

[somber stream]

I don't like having to reload every 3rd shot

I like to go ratatatatatatatatatata

[nocturne flicker]

yeah i suppose that could be it

[elder merlin]

I hate all the plasma guns

Weak shit

[somber stream]

Plasma strong

But make the game too easy

[elder merlin]

Felt weak to me

[somber stream]

So i prefer ballistic

[elder merlin]

Jar Dominator strong

[astral basin]

Havent gotten my hands on a plasma yet. Enthused by the idea

[elder merlin]

I guess compared to Jar Dominator it was weak as fuck

[nocturne flicker]

... no? plasma is strong as hell. although you gotta be careful with it

[astral basin]

Dominator is great. Its the autocanons nephew

[nocturne flicker]

no it outpaces the jar pretty distantly

if memory serves

[elder merlin]

Plasma sucks confirmed

[elder merlin]

Perhaps now?

[somber stream]

Nah just a really big needle, no HE filler

[elder merlin]

I just remember using one of the plasma guns and not liking it at all

[somber stream]

Plasma is stronger and more viable than JAR

[nocturne flicker]

ohh you mighta used plasma early on. scorcher's still sh*t imo but purifier's a MONSTER now if you don't mind reloading often

just decimates everything, it staggers too but they all dead anyway

i just don't like how clunky it is. my fav plasma weapon is probably the shotgun, the pistol's solid now too after buffs

[elder merlin]

"If a weapon aint got kick, it just aint worth it", Im a Powder Kegger and dats da motto

[elder merlin]

When it first came out

[nocturne flicker]

ohhh yeah no plasma sucked sooo much ass back then

[elder merlin]

I was on helldivers 2 from the beginning

[somber stream]

Same lol

Ballistic rules

[nocturne flicker]

purifier was alright at best when it dropped bc you had to charge it with every shot. they added the ability to semi auto fire it at the cost of weaker effects, but also buffed it. the 60-day balance pass saved the game's fucking life hahaha

[astral basin]

But the concussive rifle, eh? Eh?

[nocturne flicker]

nah i like energy weapons myself.

[elder merlin]

Im just waiting for a primary lmg, grenade launcher or a minigun

[nocturne flicker]

no one uses that thing bro 😭

[nocturne flicker]

oh there's a primary lmg now

it requires grinding the carbine liberator

[elder merlin]

Im hoping Arrowhead does a DRG collab and we get one of the Gunner's primary weapons, oh i'd fucking be in heaven

[astral basin]

Id shoot myself in the foot but im pretty sure it wouldnt do anything 😢

[nocturne flicker]

but carbine liberator can be converted into what people call the "smalwart"

[elder merlin]

It aint the same

[nocturne flicker]

which is a bullpup stalwart. it's great

[red niche]

whys havoc diabled :(

[nocturne flicker]

heck the lib penetrator could possibly be a better regular MG if you mod it right. i'll test that out when i master the lib pen

[nocturne flicker]

seasonal rotation, new update tmoz

[elder merlin]

Is that light pen? Says its from viper warbond

[red niche]

oh, so they must be adding toxgas and goops back

[elder merlin]

Tuesday

[nocturne flicker]

lib carbine is light pen like the stalwart yeah. lib penetrator is medium pen and can have the same attachments used to make carbine into primary stalwart, so a primary mg could also be possible that way

[nocturne flicker]

tuesday and tomorrow are one and the same for me

[elder merlin]

Liberator penetrator is the white one with medium pen, right? Already leveled it

[nocturne flicker]

yes i think that's right!

[nocturne flicker]

give that a try with a drum mag and such

[elder merlin]

I dont touch anything less than medium pen anymore

[elder merlin]

Its alright

[nocturne flicker]

i do use laser rifles still. those are light pen but actually worthwhile bc of how they work

[rocky moat]

double edged my belovved

[nocturne flicker]

it is anything but loved by me after how they gutted it

the DE sickle's rework was an abomination

[rocky moat]

wasn't here for it so i couldn't care less personally

[nocturne flicker]

ruined my cool medium pen breakpoints in exchange for heavy pen that you die before you get anyway

[rocky moat]

eh

you can play around keeping it in medium pen

[nocturne flicker]

it used to be a medium pen sickle that burned you if you used it too much or too often

[rocky moat]

as long as you know where to keep it heat wise

[nocturne flicker]

in exchange for heavy pen... when i have a laser cannon right here. yay

[rocky moat]

i hate laser cannon and its also a support weapon so yeah

[somber stream]

Get Heat resist armour, get health booster, get a mf with a stim pistol

"Doktor!"

[nocturne flicker]

and i hate the reworked DE sickle because they added a useless ahh feature to it

[rocky moat]

you dont even really need someone with a stim pistol

[elder merlin]

I just want a heavy pen primary that doesnt have some stupid fuckin gimmick attached to it

[rocky moat]

to say you don't like the rework is fine but like

to call heavy pen useless is silly to me

[nocturne flicker]

i took all those. it just wasn't fun to me anymore. ruined it

[somber stream]

You do if you don't want to get interuppted

Also shooting things while you're on fire is cool af

[nocturne flicker]

it's useless when you have a million other ways to do it that are just better than killing your helldiver before it can actually kick in

[rocky moat]

it comes down to building into it as a tradeoff

which also ccomes with other benefits

[elder merlin]

Like, sure, it was a bit funny watchin all those tards burn themselves to ash with that one laser gun a ways back, but i aint fucking doin that shit

[nocturne flicker]

like this rework was the dumbest trade off in the history of tradeoffs. idc if it was "buffed"

thankfully arrowhead rectified that dumb shit by giving me a talon

[rocky moat]

no reloads, hp is ammo, near fire immunity?

that's like

a buffet of things i love

[nocturne flicker]

i'm glad you got enjoyment out of them ruining the weapon for 90% of people

[rocky moat]

i really have

primary slot hmg i dont have to reload is lovely

[somber stream]

Ehh it's still serviceable

[nocturne flicker]

like i straight up went back to default sickle and talon

[nocturne flicker]

although i've been enjoying scythe recently. the attachments you can add to it make it surprisingly better, like the chonkier heat sinks

[rocky moat]

i would user other laser weapons but unfortunately i'm just not really a fan of light pen

[nocturne flicker]

another thing i'd like is a heavy pen sickle-like support weapon. a laser mg if you will

[rocky moat]

that's why i like talon and DE sickle

[rocky moat]

i would also like something like this

[nocturne flicker]

it's a mistake and an abomination only forgiven (but not forgotten) due to them dropping the talon somewhat shortly after making my build feel worse to use

[elder merlin]

[somber stream]

I uh

Only use each energy weapon once or twice

[rocky moat]

i love non ballistic weaaponry rahhh!!

[nocturne flicker]

although i suppose i'd rather them just make a dedicated medium pen laser primary tbh. a balanced one ofc. like a helldivers helbore where you have to charge it up to get medium pen and normal attacks are still light pen

[rocky moat]

plasma, lasers, other lasers, rahhh!!!!

[somber stream]

The kicks ballistic gave me is too addicting to fight without

[rocky moat]

that is also fair

[somber stream]

Also the sound of it

👌

[rocky moat]

i'm just in my phase where i've only really used ballistics thus far

so i'm just enjoying myself with energy weapons for the moment

[somber stream]

Oh it's good to explore, find which suits your needs best

[rocky moat]

yup!

[nocturne flicker]

eh idk. i'm playing a sci-fi game so using ballistics is whatever of a concept to me. i'm defo glad you love it and i'll know you for it, i just prefer to use more futuristic conceptual weaponry

[rocky moat]

i love variety

i am the #1 variety of weapons fan

[somber stream]

Preference and all that. It's good that they add a little bit of something for everyone

[rocky moat]

this is truth

my only complaint about hd2 is that my favorite type of weapon

[nocturne flicker]

like i only use ballistics in darktide on ogryn and arbitrator, and that's due to a lack of laser options

[rocky moat]

is severely under-represented

those being railguns

[somber stream]

100 years later, still an experimental weapon

SE why

[rocky moat]

so true

i want the accelerator rifle so bad

i really hope we get another killzone collab for xbox divers

[somber stream]

Oh that thing is not bad

But having to reload every 3rd shot turn me off so bad

[rocky moat]

that is completely fair

[nocturne flicker]

it's really not. i mean the damage dropoff's a bit odd, and having it be a dedicated anti-overseer weapon moreso than what it is now would be great. i feel that its niche should be for illuminates and to a lesser extent bots

[rocky moat]

i think it's fine

even so i don'tt care about what's optimal or what's not

[nocturne flicker]

like having to reload it so often is a bit jarring, so having better overseer breakpoints would be awesome

[rocky moat]

my experiencce with overseers in general is personally that everythin g and anything could have better breakpoints for them

[somber stream]

If i want to counter them specifically, i opt for the Deadeye.

There's this mysterious satisfaction when you land a perfect shot on the head with the lever action rifle, in any game

[nocturne flicker]

it's better than most give it credit for. but there's some things about it that are in need of adjustments, like the damage dropoff being so much and at such a short distance causes a lot of inconsistencies. you haven't used it so how would you call it fine?

[nocturne flicker]

deadeye is REALLY good yeah. love that thing

[rocky moat]

seen it used in person

known people who use it

i don't need to have my hands on something to say "yeah that's fine"

not sitting here saying it's the best weapon in the game or even anything really that outlandish

[somber stream]

It was super ass on release

They tweaked it, it's fine now

[rocky moat]

oh yeah i know that much

it used to be garbage

[somber stream]

Energy sniper rifle
Loose 80% of its damage after 15 metres

[rocky moat]

fact

[nocturne flicker]

do the arthur morgan build. deadeye, senator, dynamite 🤠

[sweet trail]

next class: an ogryn psyker who once served in the imperial guard and really likes the emprah

[somber stream]

I haven't touch the dynamite once, actually

I have no idea what's the use for the thing. They could at least allow it to destroy fabs

[nocturne flicker]

it's slept on really hard dude. it's a better frag grenade, bigger aoe and a more forgiving fuse that you can PROGRAM too.

[nocturne flicker]

ahh okay i use it on bugs. i use HEs on bots

[nocturne flicker]

i'll try on bots to see what's up with that. i tried on illuminates, don't. illuminates hard counter the poor red sticks bc their ships are super resistant to any grenades without HE explosive force

[somber stream]

Also let's see how it goes tomorrow and we switch the flow back to Darktide. Talking too much about HD2 in a tide server feels a bit off, even for me lol

[nocturne flicker]

yeah i'm hyped to finally have a decent power sword on vet that doesn't feel awkward as hell to use.

i mean power sword's strong but goddamn is it poorly designed

[somber stream]

I have that pirate drip locked and loaded and ready for launch

[rocky moat]

i just want a good-feeling gun to use on vet

[somber stream]

Recon las fits the bill

[rocky moat]

it used to

[nocturne flicker]

MY beloved

[rocky moat]

i remember the old days

just doesn't feel like it used to, to me at least

[nocturne flicker]

infantry lasgun has me feeling this way although it has actual powercreep substance that i can point to

[rocky moat]

yeah

[elder merlin]

Only laser weapon i want is that one spinning disc laser gun from Jak 2

[swift prawn]

Dude, the update is tomorrow. Where is the trailer

[rocky moat]

i just don't like how precision (and crit reliant) most if not all lasguns are

[elder merlin]

Suffer

[rocky moat]

it makes otherwise nice feeling guns

[zenith merlin]

lol we're not getting the update

[rocky moat]

feel gimmicky and inconsistent to me

[nocturne flicker]

at least the NDA embargo ends later today. so regardless of what happens the playtesters can finally talk about it and show videos

[nocturne flicker]

this isn't much of an issue on recon on laspistol bc crits are so plentiful on them and they have basically no recoil

[rocky moat]

yeah on recon it isn't an issue at all

[swift prawn]

Im not expecting much tbh, just an excuse for my friends to come back and play with me

[nocturne flicker]

but infantry lasguns bounce around like an SLR and aren't as crit-plentiful as those

[rocky moat]

just precision and ammo economy aswell as killtimes

[sharp rose]

Sack skaven stole it

[rocky moat]

yeah

thats what i mean, mostly with infantry las

[weak beacon]

Would you call a necron a clanker?

[gilded socket]

Girlsmell

[sharp rose]

Yes

[rocky moat]

weapon feels lovely but each shot feels like gambling

[zenith merlin]

genestealer goons stole the update

[gilded socket]

But what if girlstink?

[rocky moat]

either you hit them with a napkin or a volcano cannon

i wish it was just

at least semi-consistent

[nocturne flicker]

🚿

[gilded socket]

Think of the smell

[rocky moat]

no

[nocturne flicker]

two renaissance wraps, no mayo 🗣️🔥

[nocturne flicker]

tbh infantry lasgun needs a set of buffs and a qol change. for buffs i mean lower recoil, dps buff for mk ix/mg xii as it's worse than the other two for dps, and the expansion of its blessing pool with hot-shot and dumdum.

then the qol changes would be toggleable option to repeatedly fire semi auto weapons at their set fire rate if you hold down lmb. this'd be to prevent repetitive strain injuries, carpal tunnel, or just accomodate ppl who don't wanna abuse their mouse

[nocturne flicker]

there's a mod for this called fullauto, but it should be a core feature imo

[rocky moat]

i think this just needs to be like, a Thing in the game

because this is jkust

why i don't use semi-autos

i don't have mods 'cause i'm on console so i just
Cannot

[nocturne flicker]

stroooong agree there

[nocturne flicker]

exactly.

[elder merlin]

And then they didnt do any of that

[nocturne flicker]

pffft nah hank'll be talking our ears off in a minute

trust 😉

[elder merlin]

Yeah, half the bastards want likes and views and to be "first"

So they'll come hounding us with their shit

[dawn prism]

Imagine if it's literally just a new Mortis Trial Plasmagunner enemy

Power Falchion is just a Psword skin
(Hurts myself saying this)

[nocturne flicker]

true enough. although i wouldn't describe hank as such. certain ppl but not hank or incandescent. they're my friends and they're just passionate, they have lives outside of youtube

[elder merlin]

Atleast if its a vet rework, all the people can finally shut up about it

Althought the zealots will still be wailing

[elder merlin]

Who the fuck is incandescent

[nocturne flicker]

but there are SOME people who i won't name who will absolutely use this to capitalise on views

[nocturne flicker]

aquilathehun

incandescent is the name i know him by

i think he's called that on vermintide server

[arctic escarp]

it was me barry

[gilded socket]

Ive got big balls

[elder merlin]

Motherfucker @misty trench, the fuck ass name is "Incandescent"? Ya couldnt think of a better name?

[arctic escarp]

I run the super popular Darktide youtube channel

[elder merlin]

You're a woman, shut up

[nocturne flicker]

😳

[rocky moat]

to be fair even if they got one too they'd be wailing

think that's just a zealot pastime

[arctic escarp]

incandescent means emitting light as a result of being heated.

[lime beacon]

careful now paul

[arctic escarp]

in other words: Incan is hot

[nocturne flicker]

pffft yeah. zealot mains are the most toxic mains here. arbitrator mains are the dumbest.

[lime beacon]

they have rights too these days

[elder merlin]

I am aware

[arctic escarp]

😍 r

[rocky moat]

i agree with these as someone who has nothing but love for both zealot and arbites

[gilded socket]

How does that add or take away from my statement?

[lime beacon]

Ogryn mains are the tallest, most handsome, and most intelligent

[fair bridge]

something is afoot here

[nocturne flicker]

exactly

[elder merlin]

Women dont have balls, they have ovaries, didnt you pass biology?

[rocky moat]

mixed bag

[obtuse oak]

Perks of having access to the press preview builds, hihi

[arctic escarp]

ogryn mains getting the urge to roleplay a dumbass 🤔

[gilded socket]

I dont have ovaries i have balls

[nocturne flicker]

hank has awoken. the nda embargo is almost lifted

[elder merlin]

Unless im the dumbass and they're the same thing? It has been awhile, i'll be honest

[lime beacon]

The galaxy brain ogryn player knows that he can blame any mistake he makes on accurate roleplay

[elder merlin]